Romney: Obama grasping for 'twig' as evidence of progress

 

CRAIG, CO -- Deep inside Colorado's coal country, Mitt Romney on Tuesday accused President Obama of grasping for a "twig" to hold onto as evidence the administration's economic policies had succeeded.

Romney said that, if he were elected, he would usher in a more business-friendly administration before a crowd of several hundred supporters gathered for a rally in Craig's rustic downtown.

"Now [President Obama's] campaign these days is trying to find a twig to hang on to, some little excuse they can grab and say, ‘Look, things are getting a little better, aren’t they?’ And the answer is yeah, things are getting a little better in a lot of places in this country, but it’s not thanks to his policies. It’s in spite of his policies," Romney said.

The presumptive GOP nominee continued: "You see, every recession ultimately comes to an end, but you’d expect that this deep recession might come back to an aggressive turnaround, but it didn’t happen."

The former Massachusetts governor's campaign has said his focus this week would be on an administration "hostile" to business, and Romney pressed this thesis during today's rally as well.

"Government sees small business and big business as the enemy. We’re not the enemy. Some of these liberals say they like a strong economy but then they act like they don’t like business. An economy is nothing but the collection of all of our businesses together," Romney said. "I want our government to support small business, middle-size business, big business. I want jobs. I want government that’s an ally of business not an enemy of business.”

Romney, who will likely clinch the nomination with the results of tonight's primary in Texas, also continued to lash the president's energy policy; his remarks found a welcome audience composed of roughly 150 coal workers, dressed in dirty overalls and hard hats.

"He said he was going to create some 5 million green energy jobs. Have you seen those around here anywhere?" No, as a matter of fact he's going after energy," Romney said of the president. "He says he for all of the above when it comes for energy, you heard that. And yet he's made it harder to get coal out of the ground, he's made it harder to get natural gas out of the ground, he's made it harder to get oil out of the ground."

But Romney's pessimism about energy and the economy was not echoed by the citizens of Craig (Population roughly 10,000. Elevation: 6,185 feet) who came out in droves to see the Republican candidate, and listen to a local high school band cover pop hits on a glorious Colorado morning. A number of residents described for reporters a recovering economy based on hunting and fishing, and coal mining and oil exploration along the western slope.

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Neat! If the economy doesn't improve it's because of Obama, and if it does it's despite Obama. Can't lose with illogic like that!

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#1 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

Neat! If the economy doesn't improve it's because of Obama, and if it does it's despite Obama.

John,

EXACTLY!

If the GNOP didn't have double standards to run on, they would have any...

  • 26 votes
#1.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

Well John, despite the blind efforts of Denns and Anna Molly on First Thoughts, as I stated, most of us are living the Obama Economy and this is how we feel:

NEW YORK (AP) — Americans' confidence in the economy in May had its biggest drop in eight months as consumers fretted about slow hiring, a big stock market drop and the global economy, says a private research group.

The Conference Board says its Consumer Confidence Index now stands at 64.9, down from a revised 68.7 in April. It was the biggest drop since October 2011.

Economists were expecting a reading of 70, according to a FactSet poll of analysts. The current level is below February's 71.6, which is the highest level it's been in a year.

These must be the same economists that advise the left hear on FR and are always surprised at the "Unexpected" results of these polls and stats.

  • 20 votes
#1.2 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

WCA,

Gallup (05/29/12) - Americans' Economic Confidence Stable at Four-Year High.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/154913/Americans-Economic-Confidence-Stable-Four-Year-High.aspx

  • 15 votes
#1.3 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

And I see Feisty is still using my line.

Stalks me and then steals my line.

Pathetic.

  • 18 votes
#1.4 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

The Conference Board says its Consumer Confidence Index now stands at 64.9, down from a revised 68.7 in April. It was the biggest drop since October 2011.

WCA - Everybody's unhappy with the economy. But we are slowly digging ourselves out a hole, no thanks to the teabag congress. The question is:

Do we want to slowly dig our way out, or follow Mitten's plan of more Bush economics, throwing us back down to the bottom of the pit. that's pretty much all Mitten's has to offer.....

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 18 votes
#1.5 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:40 PM EDT

And I see Feisty is still using my line.

I see you're still obsessing! lol

Now that's FUNNY - since it was MY line that YOU stole!

I'm only taking it back from you, you klepto!

  • 16 votes
#1.6 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

More info from your link Dennis:

Americans' perceptions of current economic conditions were up slightly last week, with 17% describing conditions as "excellent" or "good" and 37% as "poor," for a net economic conditions rating of -20,

As I have said here today, the American folks are living this disaster that is the Obama Economy.

You folks keep worrying about Donald Trump and you ain't gonna know what hit you in November.

  • 18 votes
#1.7 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

A claim you make Feisty but have failed to prove.

As usual.

Now again, quit stalking me or I'll report you again and sooner or later your friends will have to do something.

Yeah, sure they will.

  • 14 votes
#1.8 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

No again, quit stalking me or I'll report you again and sooner or later your friends will have to do something

Is that a promise or a threat...?

Me SO scared of you, I'm shaking in my stiletto's Goober... lol

  • 12 votes
#1.9 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:50 PM EDT

Funny thing is WCA the right track/wrong track is stuck above 60% wrong track.

Consumer confidence took a huge nose dive last month, and all economic indicators are looking bad. Very bad.

Bottom line is no one is doing better now than 4 years ago. While certainly not all Obama's fault, he promised he would make it better/fix it. He did not and therefore will not get re-elected.

End of story. But man, is that going to make the libbie downward spiral all the more fun.

  • 17 votes
#1.10 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

WCA - You're confused. Feisty isn't stalking you. She's "Bitch slapping" you. There is a difference.....

  • 13 votes
#1.11 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

WCA,

Keep being all negative but people see the economy as the best it has been since a full year before Obama took the oath of office.

  • 15 votes
#1.12 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

Nah, Feisty, it was a joke.

Everyone here knows that you are above the rules.

Hell you can even threaten to continue to stalk a poster here and nothing happens to you.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

White Collar Auto - Good God Feisty quit stalking me!!!!!!!!!

Not a chance
sweetie - making you my little bitch is WAAAAY to much fun! ;o)
#2.27 - Wed
May 9, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

  • 11 votes
#1.13 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:57 PM EDT

So, uh, Dennis my man - care to explain the right track wrong track numbers?

Or maybe how come such a complete loser like Mitt is dead even with a god like Obama, if not for that pesky economy?

  • 11 votes
#1.14 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

Spanky, the folks here are in for a world of hurt.

I mentioned the Right/Wrong Track number this morning, and Anna Molly and the rest jumped out with all their charts and graphs telling me how great things were getting.

I wonder if getting your ass kicked hurts more when your head is in the sand?

  • 15 votes
#1.15 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

Nah, Feisty, it was a joke.

Sure it was... *wink wink*

Oh well, I see I got under your scales again so my work here is done!

Spanky, the folks here are in for a world of hurt.

Isn't that precious?

It's always funnier then hell to watch WCA retreat to the comfort of hiding behind SpankMe's skirt! LMAO

  • 10 votes
#1.16 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:04 PM EDT

Hello Spanky still spreading doom and gloom I see. So what happens when the auto industry states like they did this morning that car sales are up. American business is starting to improve, Made in America is working, Small business's now exporting and showing 20% increase over last year. I get the feeling your business does better in a poor economy is that why the doom and gloom glass half empty routine. California fell further so your climb will be longer but others are already starting to improve, so sorry.

  • 12 votes
#1.17 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:05 PM EDT

WCA,

The wrong track is because of Congress and their unwillingness to help move this country in the right direction.

The question does not ask if the “President” is moving the country in the right direction it is a simple question “Is the country going in the right direction?”

  • 14 votes
#1.18 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:05 PM EDT

and Anna Molly and the rest jumped out with all their charts and graphs telling me how great things were getting.

WCA - Aren't those charts and graphs a bitch. If they would only listen to Rush to get the real facts......

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 14 votes
#1.19 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

Obama grasps for twigs, Romney looks for branches..... I'll take Romney over Obama to save the tree any day!

  • 14 votes
#1.20 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

Dennis, the CEO gets the blame when the company is failing. At least in the Progressive world.

Yeah GT, charts and Graphs are great, they beat real world experience every time.

  • 10 votes
#1.21 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

Obama grasps for twigs, Romney looks for branches..... I'll take Romney over Obama to save the tree any day

SteveH USA - Like the companies that Bain stripped clean, when Mitten's gets done with the branches, there won't be any tree left!

  • 11 votes
#1.22 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

WCA,

Government does not work like business.

Executives/Employees don't get votes and never go against the CEO
or they get fired unlike Congressional members.

  • 9 votes
#1.23 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:36 PM EDT

Bush caused the Great Recession, the worst since the Great Depression.

The Great Depression lasted until the end of WWII (1929-1945). A recession caused by bank failure (this recession, for example) is harder to fix than the ones caused by just lack of demand or surplus of supply.

There is no reason to go back to GOP and the same policies that had caused this recession in the first place.

  • 14 votes
#1.24 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:36 PM EDT

Yeah GT, charts and Graphs are great, they beat real world experience every time.

Hey 'Slingblade' - Charts and graphs are a pictorial view of what's actually going on in the real world.....DUH!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 11 votes
#1.25 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

Hey 'Slingblade'

You can send a check for my new monitor to my PayPal account!

ROTFLMFAO!

I'm dying here.... ;o)))))

  • 10 votes
#1.26 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

Like I said earlier WCA Anna M. is just so damn precious/consciously ignorant.

She has to know Walker is going to win, yet here she is citing dem. internal polls and talking about the 'spirit' of all the Wisc. libbies.

And now there's Tis. Really Tis, it's all super rosy and great, eh? Now I don't suppose you ever leave the warm democratic confines of First Read and head on over to CNBC?

Then there's Dennis. Yep the congress is jacked up. But Obama is the boss. At the end of the day [when the votes are cast] it is the boss, the applesauce that gets the blame.

Or maybe you did read the article about consumer sentiment crashing in May? And, uh, Dennis, do you see anything to suggest that June is not going to be worse?

Of course you don't. In fact all we can do is sit and wait out Greece's end game.

Then again, I wonder - upon what is you outlook based? Your degree in economics? The successful business that you run? Your investment portfolio?

  • 7 votes
#1.27 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

Sorry GT, the Real World is at the Gas Pump, the Grocery Store, Energy Bills and the Real Estate Office.

They all suck.

Despite what your charts and graphs say. Your problem is you have accepted the Obama Economy as the new normal.

Most Americans have not.

  • 13 votes
#1.28 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:52 PM EDT

Romney is against Obama's auto bailout which worked to save money and jobs for his home state of Michigan.

The Koch Brothers have paid Willard to be in their pockets - It's Koch Brothers' 'Cash for Clunker' program. Romney the Clunker?

  • 11 votes
#1.29 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

Pig, Romney was right about the bailout and you are uninformed. Stop getting your talking points from MSNBC.

BTW, do you have any idea how the "Cash for CLunkers" program effected the Auto Industry in the long run?

  • 10 votes
#1.30 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:58 PM EDT

Good luck trying to explain the GM bailout to a libbie WCA.

Shoot, most have no idea that GM went BK.

But I will say this - cash for clunkers helped me get a premium for my QX56. I figure I netted about $1,200 more than I would have, had not President 'Big Brain' caused all those suvs to leave the market.

Problem for Obama, by gutting the used car market he really screwed the poorer folks out there. Me, I'm simply going to upgrade to a new SUV. But to many, the overall cost of used cars is up, because of stupid policies.

  • 9 votes
#1.31 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

My retirement portfolio is way better off, it dropped $480,000 under Bush, and I recouped that and more in Obama's first year, so yes personally I am better off.

  • 12 votes
#1.32 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

Your problem is you have accepted the Obama Economy as the new normal.

No, WCA - I've accepted what needs to be done to get the country back on track. And it isn't what Mitt has to offer us, that's for sure.....

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 10 votes
#1.33 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

I'll take the Obama economy over the Bush economy any day. I believe the Romney economy would be a return to the Bush economy, and I for one do not wish to go there again.

  • 13 votes
#1.34 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

Stop with the crap WCA. No one knows whether Romney's bankruptcy solution for GM would have worked. It didn't happen. (By the way, why don't you share next week's winning numbers for Super Lotto, what with your powers of clairvoyance and all.)

But back to reality. The fact is Romney's "plan" contemplated an infusion of capital. Q. Where was that capital? A. No one was willing to pony up the capital necessary to pull GM up. It wasn't there. Why as a matter of fact, the brilliant venture capitalists at Bain, among others, wasn't willing to invest.

Here's the truth. Only the government could marshal the capital necessary to save GM. It is also a fact that only the government had the muscle to force the concessions that were necessary to clean up GM's obligations and debt.

That's what happened here in the real world.

  • 14 votes
#1.35 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

Wow, I'm confused...did they "come out in droves" or was it "an audience of 150 coal miners"? Because out of 10,000 people; 150, a drove does not make.

As to the economy, it's evident that Teapublican's in both houses have caused gridlock to make sure that President Obama will not get re-elected. Won't work, but at least they're trying.

Furthermore, even Rombot admits the economy is getting better, but per the Teapublican whack job logic, it's not getting better fast enough. With the Chinese economy on the down slope, look for energy prices to decrease as the petroleum market gets very soft. Housing prices are up in many major markets and this bodes well for the construction industry (roughly 20% of the U.S. economy).

So all you right wing naysayers can take your crap tinted glasses to the eye doctor and maybe he'll be able to tell you if the rest of your head is all right too.

Rombot.Has.Nothing.

  • 10 votes
#1.36 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:24 PM EDT

All Obama has to offer us is four more like the last four, or even worse if thats possible. He said he could fix things, he couldnt, now its time for him to go.

  • 7 votes
#1.37 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

‘Look, things are getting a little better, aren’t they?’ And the answer is yeah, things are getting a little better

A little better. Record breaking profits, record breaking CEO pay, record breaking cash on hand - and it is only a 'little' better? Romney, what does a whole lot better look like - you bringing home 200k per day vs. 57k per day? Please tell us.

  • 10 votes
#1.38 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:34 PM EDT

Feisty, Sorry about your monitor...LOL

  • 3 votes
#1.39 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

Feisty, Sorry about your monitor...LOL

Don't be - I haven't laughed that hard in ages...

  • 8 votes
#1.40 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:49 PM EDT

WCA,

My Energy Bills are up, Food is way up and because I live in California the summer blend for gas is up due to heavier-than-normal refinery maintenance. To add insult to injury our legislators will spend this week talking about cutting funds for kids, the elderly and the disabled while making sure they keep their own "per-diem" checks flowing.

Lets not forget tax increases on the November ballot, or Jerry Brown's legacy, The Train to Nowhere.

Am I better off now than four years ago? What do you think?

  • 5 votes
#1.41 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

All this complaining about food prices. Yes, they are higher, and the culprits are the usual suspects, the commodities markets and the spike in fuel prices from last year. With gas prices decreasing, we should see a decrease in food prices, but yet again, our favorite commodity markets, aka the food casino, is ensuring we will pay more for food. Gee, to be Willard and be able to invest in that casino adventure, and while bringing home the bacon, add a whole boat load of cash to those Cayman accounts.

Now, do we blame Obama for higher food costs and failing to strictly regulate the commodities markets, or blame the Romney's of the world, ya know, the big Vegas style spenders.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/otaviano-canuto/distorted-prices-in-commo_b_1539071.html

  • 7 votes
#1.42 - Tue May 29, 2012 7:36 PM EDT

Romney is a prig,

loves to use word like 'twig.'

When Romney loses in november,

don't squeal like a pig.

--This is not a poem - but a message -- approved by pro-Obama miniPac which costs no dollars but airs a true feeling

  • 7 votes
#1.43 - Tue May 29, 2012 8:25 PM EDT

David Walker,

You all continue to talk about GM and the fact that no one wanted to put money into them, but you conveniently forget about Chrysler and Fiat.

Fiat was ready to take Chrysler over before Obama made them worthless and ended up getting them for nothing. Now they reap the benefits and the taxpayers are on the hook. They repaid their loans, but the Govt still owns a large share of Chrysler stock just as it does with GM

Do you know where GM stock is today and what it needs to get to for the Govt. to break even?

For the left to think that GM would have gone Belly up with no buyers is really just naive on your part, and shows how little you folks know about the Auto Industry.

I laugh every time someone here calls "Cash for Clunkers" a success.

  • 5 votes
#1.44 - Tue May 29, 2012 10:23 PM EDT

WCA:

Wow, that's some world-class deflection you've got going on there. The reason we weren't addressing Chrysler was because Fiat rendered the question moot. But let's go ahead on this.

Chrysler is now streamlined and doing very well. It is part of a massive conglomerate that may be the model for global companies in the future. No matter, many people remain on the job as a consequence. That is a good thing.

As far as GM's stock price, a far more relevant question for the time being is, who cares? Again, we have people at work, tax revenues are accruing to the government, and an enormously important component of our manufacturing base remains viable.

Name one buyer who stepped forward to keep GM on track. ONE. There's nothing at all that remotely approximates naivete when informed citizens - forget your idiotic reference to liberals - know that there were no white knights. NONE.

Inasmuch as you imply that you do know about the auto industry and we lesser mortals do not, I would ask this question. Why didn't the other white shirts listen to you when you were undoubtedly warning them of the impending failure of the auto industry?

Finally, I'll see your "Cash for Clunkers" deflection and raise you a "Bush never vetoed a single spending bill".

  • 6 votes
#1.45 - Tue May 29, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

As far as GM's stock price, a far more relevant question for the time being is, who cares?

Sadly, D. Walker, WCA only cares about this question. He stupidly, but stubbornly held onto the position that HE would have something at the end of the downfall. WCA cares nothing about the jobs lost, the detriment to the economy, the end of his industry, he only cares about his shares that were lost in a losing end-game. That is why he adores Romney - and the Romney concept of vulture capitalism. The poor bastard is a reflection of Romney .. car companies are not about producing cars, but rather, they are about producing money into the WCA pockets.

We must make the turn to an economy that produces - bread makers make bread and thrive, car makers make cars and thrive. We don't need the faux MBA white collar workers to make this happen. We need the producers that make this happen.

Quite frankly, who needs a white collar worker for anything. They contribute nothing but feed on profits without a single contribution. The class order should be workers first, CEO and share holders 2nd, and white collar 3rd. The workers and CEOs can produce a product. White collars have one job only, and that is pontificate the needs between the two, and today, they fail miserably at that job.

  • 7 votes
#1.46 - Wed May 30, 2012 1:08 AM EDT

Forrest Gump, your a lying sack of something. I and my brother investors have just started re-cooping our loses, since the republican controlled house has forced Obama to stop the exorbitant spending. And face the real facts, that his democratic big government spending has to come to an end. To make this country self sufficient and a fiscal powerhouse again... Thanks to the liberal tree hugging democratic elected officials, we have had to overcome huge inflation hikes. and the model of GW Bush's model of low interest rates, we have been able to save peoples homes and other investments. In the clinton years, nobody could afford a house with those interest rates!

  • 1 vote
#1.47 - Wed May 30, 2012 6:39 AM EDT

Pro-Business and job creation, sound like the end of the entitled government subsistence junkies. Withdrawls, shakes and shivers, then back to work!

  • 3 votes
#1.48 - Wed May 30, 2012 6:54 AM EDT

Bush caused the Great Recession, the worst since the Great Depression.

As to the economy, it's evident that Teapublican's in both houses have caused gridlock to make sure that President Obama will not get re-elected.

Furthermore, even Rombot admits the economy is getting better, but per the Teapublican whack job logic, it's not getting better fast enough.

OK so let me see if I got this right, Bush with a Democrat controlled House and Senate to work with after 2006 election caused the downturn, then Obama with a Democrat controlled House and Senate made no gains on the economy, then the Republicans took over the House in 2010 (Senate still controlled by Dems) and things have gotten somewhat better but at a slower pace because of the Republicans?

So when we are talking about the House, The Senate, and the Presidency, Democrats have controlled two out three since 2006, and controlled all 3 for the first two years of Obamas presidency, yet this is the Republicans fault?

Good luck selling that!

  • 6 votes
#1.49 - Wed May 30, 2012 7:22 AM EDT

I'm loving that the Greedy Ol' Pie eaters Comedy Tour featuring Williard Romney is still going on (with "special" guests like Christine "He's been consistent since he changed his mind," and Donald "Don't call me Orange Julius" Trump), but I must admit, I miss his fellow troupe members with their slapstick antics and great lines like, "I got all this stuff twirlin' around in my head, " and "we should get rid of the janitors and let the kids clean the school," and my personal favorite, "Oops."

  • 4 votes
#1.50 - Wed May 30, 2012 8:11 AM EDT

Feisty are you 13 or 14? I can't tell all you say is "lol" or "lmao" or "ROTFLMFAO!". Is everything funny to you? The funniest thing to me is you're here constantly, posting ad nauseam to the thirty other people on this site and it's all completely meaningless. Your opinion, so what? Your life apparently revolves around being the first to comment on any political or religious MSNBC "news" story. How sad, but ILMAO!

  • 3 votes
#1.51 - Wed May 30, 2012 8:40 AM EDT

"Now [President Obama's] campaign these days is trying to find a twig to hang on to, some little excuse they can grab and say, ‘Look, things are getting a little better, aren’t they?’ And the answer is yeah, things are getting a little better in a lot of places in this country, but it’s not thanks to his policies. It’s in spite of his policies,"

Ouch, the truth hurts, doesn't it Obama & Company?

  • 1 vote
#1.52 - Wed May 30, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

Their are less people working today then when Obama took office, FACT! You can look at all the different charts you want, but in fact their are less people working today then when Obama took office! What a GLORIOUS RECORD! Spin that. All that for 5 TRILLION +!!!!! What a GENIUS. I can see another Nobel Prize in his future for economics!Bahaahaahaahaahaa.

  • 1 vote
#1.53 - Wed May 30, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

I have a few assignments for the libs:

Look up the US company's that paid the highest percentage of their earning to corporate taxes last year.

Guess who they were:

Oil company's.

Research how tax decreases for the upper class and middle class caused the recession.

Guess what.

They didn't

Also please explain how bush is till president and responsible for all Obama's short cummings 3.5 years after bush leaves office.

Sorry to say again.

Bush is no longer president.

Also explain how business experience is not good experience for a presidential candidate.

You know things like,

budgets, resource allocation, planning, developing strategies, communication, leadership etc...

Sorry to say again

That sounds like excellent experience to me.

  • 1 vote
#1.54 - Wed May 30, 2012 11:55 AM EDT
Reply

Garrett, you have redeemed yourself with me! (I criticized you last week, sorry) So happy to see that actual, real reporting lives!

But Romney's pessimism about energy and the economy was not echoed by the citizens of Craig (Population roughly 10,000. Elevation: 6,185 feet) who came out in droves to see the Republican candidate, and listen to a local high school band cover pop hits on a glorious Colorado morning. A number of residents described for reporters a recovering economy based on hunting and fishing, and coal mining and oil exploration along the western slope.

  • 9 votes
Reply#2 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

And yet he's made it harder to get coal out of the ground, he's made it harder to get natural gas out of the ground, he's made it harder to get oil out of the ground."

Willard, what exactly has the President done to cause all the hardships that you speak of......name 1,2,3 things especially since the profits made by the energy companies proves otherwise.

  • 15 votes
#2.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

President Obama has made it so difficult for oil and gas companies that in 2011, BP earned $26 billion (they're still recovering from the gulf disaster); Chevron, $19 billion; ConocoPhillips, $12 billion; Exxon, $41 billion; Shell, $31 billion. Yep, President Obama made it harder all right.

  • 14 votes
#2.2 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

Jody, I guess it's harder for them to count all those BILLIONS in profits.....That must be what Willard was talking about.

  • 14 votes
#2.3 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

Golly chilled - it's almost like you don't understand that Obama is in charge of the EPA, or that Lisa Jackson is at war with energy producers.

Oh and libbies - just who do you think makes the most pure 'profit' off of energy production?

Hint: It ain't EEVVIILLL corporations.

  • 9 votes
#2.4 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

Spanky, the evil government is behind everything bad right. Of course that is Obama's evil government, and Mitty's will be all sunshine and roses starting day one. I would really not want to be you. You must spend most of your time depressed by Obama's socialist rein. He is such an evil overlord for you right. Here is something for you, since it is so bad for you, so evil, so dark, I wish nothing but 4 more years of suffering for you and others like you. Where you see dark we see light. So please stay in the dark and away from others.

  • 10 votes
#2.5 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

Actually Spanky, that war that you say the EPA is at against the energy companies is the result of a law suit brought by several states including Massachussets against the EPA which requires the EPA to regulate greenhouse gases. Republicans, including Mitt Romney, were the Governors of Massachussetts for the entire time that the case was pending.

Since that time, moderate Democrats and the last of the conservative Republicans have tried to get relief from that ruling by amending the Clean Air Act to replace Best Available Control Technology (a/k/a/ "evil government mandates") with a market in the right to pollute within limits (a/k/a "cap and trade) but the ultra conservatives would rather attack the EPA for following the law than fix the law so efforts to amend the Clean Air Act have failed.

  • 11 votes
#2.6 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

Spanky- Golly chilled - it's almost like you don't understand that Obama is in charge of the EPA, or that Lisa Jackson is at war with energy producers

Wow......Willard says President Obama made things harder for oil, gas and coal companies......Then President Obama, according to Willard, is the reason for all those Billions in profits.......Yup, real hard!

Yikes,....Willardism = "Obama doesn't understand"....

You've picked up on that line.

  • 9 votes
#2.7 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

Well chilled I just hope for your sake you do not live in the Northeast. See the price per mega watt just went through the roof.

Yeah, probably Exxon's fault.

  • 5 votes
#2.8 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

Let me summarize this a little more succinctly. Romney told a coal mining town that it is Obama's fault that the coal industry is struggling, even though this towns coal industry is improving.

Oh, and he mocks the 'clean-energy' industry in the state where Xcel Energy is the major energy supplier and Xcel just happens to be in the top 5 in the country for providing solar and wind power. And they get most of that from Colorado.

He clearly has no idea what he is talking about.

  • 11 votes
#2.9 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

The House Natural Resources Committee tomorrow will vote on legislation to implement a regulatory timeout on Obama administration oversight of the coal industry.

The bill (H.R. 3409) by Ohio Republican Rep. Bill Johnson would temporarily block any new rule under the Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act that would have a negative job impact. It also prohibits rules that would reduce the amount of coal available for domestic use or export.

The legislation’s primary target is the Office of Surface Mining’s forthcoming stream protection rule, which the industry worries will kill thousands of coal mining jobs. Johnson has been on the warpath against the proposal, saying OSM pressured former contractors to manipulate damaging job numbers.

OSM Director Joseph Pizarchik has denied the charges of impropriety and job impacts. He has said the rule is still in the works and is meant to better protect the environment from surface mining operations while protecting coal jobs

  • 1 vote
#2.10 - Wed May 30, 2012 7:33 AM EDT

He told the editorial board of the San Francisco Chronicle on January 17, 2008 of his plans:

q/

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a (sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.

It's just that it will bankrupt them.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/06/crony_capitalism_and_obamas_anti-coal_crusade.html#ixzz1wLsIbCwC

  • 2 votes
#2.11 - Wed May 30, 2012 7:33 AM EDT

Michael Brune, executive director of the Sierra Club, an advocacy group fighting coal-fired power, said in an interview that the regulation shows that President Barack Obama is moving to a cleaner energy future.

“It’s a strong move,” Brune said. “It means there will never be another coal plant built without new technology and it probably means even those won’t be built because they can’t compete.”

Coal will eventually go out of business because the EPA’s regulations will artificially drive up the cost of coal-generated electricity. Meanwhile, the Obama administration is subsidizing proven energy failures like Solyndra to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.

  • 3 votes
#2.12 - Wed May 30, 2012 7:39 AM EDT
Reply

The title did mean to say "grasping at straws" right?

  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:20 PM EDT

No, Mitt said twig; it goes with his thinking that the trees are the right height in Michigan.

  • 17 votes
#3.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

LOL!

  • 3 votes
#3.2 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

I thought Twig, was one of Sarah Palin's children.

  • 10 votes
#3.3 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

Forrest,

Shame on you. ;)

  • 3 votes
#3.4 - Tue May 29, 2012 7:07 PM EDT

Sorry Thetotas maybe it was just the way Barbara Walters pronounces it.

  • 4 votes
#3.5 - Tue May 29, 2012 9:20 PM EDT

Oh, Fowest Gwump, that's hilarious! Ahahahahahahaha!

  • 3 votes
#3.6 - Tue May 29, 2012 9:37 PM EDT

Ha, you are hilawious Cynthia. Fowest Gwump now that's funny.

  • 4 votes
#3.7 - Tue May 29, 2012 9:46 PM EDT

Forrest - small minds are easily amused - prime example - Cynthia!

    #3.8 - Wed May 30, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

    Oh lighten up, Seeking! I'm just poking fun at Grumps interpretation of Barbara Walters. ;-)

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 1 vote
    #3.9 - Wed May 30, 2012 12:42 PM EDT
    Reply

    Willard, what exactly has the President done to cause all the hardships that you speak of......

    Chilled - The Repubes make it up as they go along.

    • 14 votes
    Reply#4 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

    You got GT.......Repubes.....repeat the Lie, Repeat the Lie.....Liars and the lies they tell!

    • 12 votes
    #4.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:29 PM EDT

    JFK - the title should have read "Romney grasping at straws." Poor pathetic Romney - is he still hanging onto Trump for stability????

    • 11 votes
    #4.2 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

    It should have said, "Obama grasping at cow pies." A load of crap is all Obama has got.

    • 6 votes
    #4.3 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

    Everyone applaud Rocco who made a funny, good for you Rocco for coco puffs. Cow pies now that is funny.

    • 8 votes
    #4.4 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

    The Repubes make it up as they go along.

    Appears so GT... just read spanky's posts above.

    If you can't win the arguement, change focus to some other topic.

    As Bill Maher said, "Economy is improving, Dow is about 5000 above when Bush was in, unemployment is coming down... or, as the Republicans say, 'How about that gay marriage and abortion!'"

    Don't have a leg to stand on? Just change the subject and put forth some inaccurate untruths... right spank?

    • 11 votes
    #4.5 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

    Not as - You hit the nail right on the head.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 10 votes
    #4.6 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:24 PM EDT
    Reply

    When will the #2 Country in Oil Reserves, known as Iraq, be bringing thier Oil Production back to Pre Bush/Cheney levels ?

    Spanky is paying out the patutie out there in Cali !

    BTW, why is there No talk from Americas Carnival Barkers(formerly known as the MSM), about some Southern California Republican City, billing the POTUS for a recent event held there? Is this the Precedent the GOP Really wants to Start?

    I'll Hug your Elephant If you'll Ki$$ My A$$ !

    You Betcha!

    Occupy SoggyBottom!

    • 13 votes
    Reply#5 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

    Rick you really expect anyone to feel sorry for Spanky and the price of gas. He can just park the RV if it is to much. Maybe commute by bus to work and home rather than his BMW.

    • 8 votes
    #5.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

    BMW? Nope, never. Also - public transit is not my bag. I like to control when and where I go. You know the opposite of public transport.

    But hey, good news is the London Bridge channel was fairly crowded this weekend. Of course in Arizona gas was $379. Here in the progressive paradise that is Cali., it's $4.35

    See we get to enjoy 'summer blend' gas. It's sop much nicer.

    Oh and Tis - the RV only comes out in the winter, for desert season. Come on and get with it.

    • 5 votes
    #5.2 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

    Poor Spankster, still whineing about Gas Prices. See, I crawled thru these Tubes that connect us over the weekend & found a story from Rueters (I think) about Causes for different prices in different regions across the Country. Seems out there in Cali & the west coast, they just love them some Brent Sea Crude(the Most Expensive)!

    Here In Gods Country(as Many around here like to call it), the price is anywhere between $3.30 & $3.70.

    As many watchers of the Stock market know already, WTI is struggling to stay above $90 a Barrel & the Saudis say they'll be arrrrigt with Oil around $70 a Barrel! Maybe a Kiss on the Cheeky from Daddy Bush & Boy Bush, will change thier minds.

    You Betcha!

    Occupy SoggyBottom!

    • 7 votes
    #5.3 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:25 PM EDT
    Reply

    Seems to me, the one "grasping for a twig" is Mitt Romney. He keeps trying to remind himself as well as voters that things really aren't getting better, they just can't be better, well, because.....because....Mitt said so.

    • 15 votes
    Reply#6 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

    "grasping for a twig" is Mitt Romney....and Willard holds on tight to The Donald and Limbaugh......

    • 11 votes
    #6.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

    Well if people are frustrated and angry now, just elect Romney. Boy you haven't seen anything yet. To have Romney elected President would be a bigger disaster to the United States than the Great Depression.

    This country has never elected a business man that was successful as President, and it doesn't look like we have a winner in Romney.

    • 10 votes
    #6.2 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

    All RWNJ's who continue to spout the untruth that the American President is a failue, please come back to reality. Obama is succeeding; Bush was the failue.

    LIST: Obamas Top 50 Accomplishments | RR - NEWS
    www.randirhodes.com
    You've been asking for a list of what the President has accomplished for some time - so here it is.

    Pay attention mittens.... you are getting pearls here.

    • 7 votes
    #6.3 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:07 PM EDT
    Reply

    Business has made "Record Profits, The Highest In American History" so Mr. Romney is trying to Give Business All Our Tax Dollars" Gov. Romeney is all about the Rich. He just told a classroom of teachers that his "Think Tank" conducted an analysis and concluded that "Class Size Doesn't Matter" Just thow the kids in like cattle, no problem.

    Is this really a surprise to any journalist worth their salt. Mr. Romney is tearing down his 3000Ft home to build a 11 Sq. Ft. home with Car Elevators to the top several stories as the news explained.

    Can you imagine tearing down your home or any home when there are so many people suffering in this country and around the world. Perhaps he could have donated the home for the homeless or some other family, but tearing it down? Mr. Romney cannot relate to the Ordinary American Family, his many Gaffs are not really Gaffs that's how this guy feels

    Mr.Romeny has already told us and his wife in their last interview on ABC, "It's Mitt's Turn" translation, We're Entitled"

    So making sure that Business does not rip this country aparty as it did under President Bush, Cut Retirements by 40% some more, cause loss of homes for millions of families, loss of jobs for Millions for families, food shortages for many families, Soup Kitchens use to feed the Homeless now they feed the "Hungry"

    American has been this this significant turmoil with the disruption of Millions of American Families

    The problem is the Republican Party doesn't understand the meaning of Family unless it's their family.

    So this weeks' Republican Slogan is "TwiG" now watch in lockstep as they all run to the cameras singing that chorus.

    THis election is about people lives, families lives, the media is not focusing on that you are focusing on this nit picking of candidates messaging.

    Focus on those items that affect the lives of the American people. No slogan, no word smithing will heal the lives of millions of suffering Americans including millions of our Veteran.

    Can we please discuss the issues, the Paul Ryan Budget, you guys are very smart, take a position, whatever it is.

    Thank Fiesty and others as she said this blog won't take discuss the issues so last weeks blogs were just awesome one the American people can be proud of and they were given information by many on this blog that affects them. I can't remember all the names of those who participated but there were many. Fiesty took the initative to say, if you guys won't discuss the issues the participants would and they did.

    Last week that particular with significant information that will help the voters brought by the bloggers on this site was just amazing.

    That's what the Families in this country need to know what affects them. So much propoganda is in the news, media falls every day to question a "Lie" that only hurts our country

    We must be willing to discuss the issued all the issues on both sides of the isle, and get the American people informed.

    Let's address issues that affect our country and it's people, please.

    Boy many of us really Miss Tim Russet, he stood for the truth and the issues, never backed down. Will we ever see that kind of journalism again? I certainly hope someone has the courage to do so. I quite frankly tired of people telling us they will and they simply don't.

    • 7 votes
    Reply#7 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

    SandieLove - Many of us long for the days of Tim Russert. Most of us knew he was a Democrat but when it came to MTP, he didn't show it. He was objective and treated everyone with equal respect. Yet, he asked the tough questions, no matter what party you were aligned with.

    I find it hard to make it through a complete MTP with David Gregory. Why don't they just call it "David Gregory for the Republican Party?" Would be much more accurate.

    I think - in a few years - Luke Russert could fill his father's shoes and do an admirable job. He watched his Dad, week after week, and knows what a real journalist does.

    Until then Sunday political shows will be difficult to stomach.

    • 8 votes
    #7.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

    Nice job Sandie. Funny I too was thinking of Tim Russert after watching MTP and what a joke David Gregory is. Throws soft balls to Republicans and fast balls to Democrats. And never questions the lies.

    So where are Romney's plans. Is he still holding out until after the election to produce them - other than the Ryan plan! More tax breaks for the wealthy off the backs of the ederly, middle class and poor.

    Orin Hatch said he thinks that 51% of the people that do not pay taxes, is outrageous. What he should feel outrage is that 51% of the people are too poor to pay taxes.

    • 8 votes
    #7.2 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

    Sandie ... there are many issues to take Romney to task for, however, tearing down a 3000 sq. ft. home to build an 11,000 sq. ft. home will provide jobs for many in various trades for at least two years. He will by doing so add at least 11 million bucks to the local economy.

    • 4 votes
    #7.3 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

    Elise, did you watch MTP on Sunday? I was so angry with Gregory I was shouting at the TV. He gave dimply-faced Gingrich the last word on every argument and cut off Dionne when he was making a valid point, just because, to Gregory, elections are not about substance!

    Tim Russert was a far better MTP moderator. I wish they'd fire Gregory, but then are there anymore real journalists who could take his place? I hate to sound old, but, in my mind, the golden age of journalism is a distant memory.

    • 7 votes
    #7.4 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

    Steven Colbert would do a better job than Gregory.

    • 6 votes
    #7.5 - Tue May 29, 2012 9:28 PM EDT
    Reply

    In 2000 and again in 2004 we elected the most incompetent President we have ever had. His incompetence has led to the mess we are in. I doubt that McCain could have done better in getting the country on its feet than Obama has done. Romney will return us to those years before Obama. He may understand corporations and big money but running a country (especially a democracy) is not the same as running a corporation especially a vulture capitalist venture. Romney is just not the right fit for this job. I would love to see the GOP run someone more fit but they have shown that they don't have anyone this time around. So long as the extreme elements in the Republican party continue to be in control no good will come from that party.

    • 9 votes
    Reply#8 - Tue May 29, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

    one point: we don't live in a democracy. we have a democratic republic, and there is a big difference.

    The president can put forth an agenda, however the president is not king. It is Congress that holds the power in this republic (passing laws and spending measures), while the executive branch is tasked with enforcing the laws the Congress passes (and foreign relations). Until we have civility and compromise as words in the lexicon of the congress again, we are doomed to inept and ineffectual government. The people voted them in, and we need to get them out before the vitriol becomes status quo (if it isn't already too late...).

    • 4 votes
    #8.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:31 PM EDT
    Reply

    Romney has no credibility left. Time after time he has made accusations that proved to be false about Obama. One was the"growing prairie fire" of spending - not aware of the fact that spending under Obama has been the smallest increase percentage since Eisenhower's first term, when the Korean War was ended. Romney talks best when he doesn't know what he is talking about.

    • 9 votes
    Reply#9 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:05 PM EDT

    Mr. Romney has a lot more credibility than O'Bama!!! Did you hear the gaffe the O'Bama mde in regards to"Polish death camps?" I would ask that AffinityGW start reading the best seller "The Amateur" which is about Mr. O'Bama. There are many suprising things that he does not wish to be made known to the general public.

    • 1 vote
    #9.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 11:45 PM EDT

    Carole - if you believe the garbage in the book you're reading there is no hope for you. Try to at least act like you have a little education - okay, very little.

    People like you prove daily there is no sanity in the GOP!

      #9.2 - Wed May 30, 2012 12:04 PM EDT
      Reply

      So Garrett which is it:

      Romney, who will likely clinch the nomination with the results of tonight's primary in Texas, also continued to lash the president's energy policy; his remarks found a welcome audience composed of roughly 150 coal workers, dressed in dirty overalls and hard hats.

      or is it:

      But Romney's pessimism about energy and the economy was not echoed by the citizens of Craig (Population roughly 10,000. Elevation: 6,185 feet) who came out in droves to see the Republican candidate, and listen to a local high school band cover pop hits on a glorious Colorado morning. A number of residents described for reporters a recovering economy based on hunting and fishing, and coal mining and oil exploration along the western slope.

      Another example of the media wanting to play the "Fair and Balanced" route. It appears that so called crow represented what 150/10,000 = 1.5% of the population? Or, was it just 150 coal-miners and some other people but hey they represented a "welcome audience" right?

      I'm so sick of these hack reporters (wanna be journalists) who feel that simply reporting the LIES spewed by the Republican Election Machine without pointing out the the LIE.

      There used to be a time in America when news reporting prided itself on "getting the story right".

      So, Garrett which is it; are you a reporter or not? I for one don't need to read another "Romney Mouthpiece" commentary - but I would welcome an article which truthfully examines the issues, statements, and positions taken by the candidates running for the Office of the President of the United States of America.

      AND YES, that includes both political parties. This election is too important to let a LIAR win because he knows how to LIE the BEST.

      • 6 votes
      Reply#10 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

      Republicans have been purposed to make Obama fail since the evening of his inauguration. They cannot even do the wrong thing right. All they have accomplished has been prolonging the recession for partisan reasons. They claim periodically that the president has failed, and trot out their MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner. The private sector has been proving them wrong for 26 months in a row.

      • 5 votes
      Reply#11 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

      they hope it gets worse, because.....?

      • 1 vote
      Reply#12 - Tue May 29, 2012 5:48 PM EDT

      Romney clearly has demonstrated in this speech that he is clueless about the economy. He says "An economy is nothing but the collection of all of our businesses together." He is partially correct, but there is also the customers and the infrastructure. Without a healthy middle class, there is no demand and no business.

      • 7 votes
      Reply#14 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

      President Obama is doing a great job with the economy. Romney could and would do no better and actually with him everything would be down hill. This man is "grasping at twigs" by holding hands with Trump !! Let us face it any intelligent, and honest politician would not have anything to do with Trump. This shows the true colours of Romney. He is yellow all down his spinal cord !!!!

      • 5 votes
      Reply#15 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:34 PM EDT

      frintonfriend are you talking about bill aires and dorn and rev wright now these are so low down mfers i can see your open minded about things, well maybe not you dont have a mind

        #15.1 - Wed May 30, 2012 9:56 AM EDT
        Reply

        If Romney or MCain were President today, they would be grasping at the same twig. I don't know what they could have done that would have made things any different.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#16 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:38 PM EDT

        Rummey the Dummy will NEVER be President! I wish he would stop the incessent lies. Rummey has NOTHING for YOU, the average Joe! Business, and he has stated such again, is ALL he cares about. If you believe for one instant, that the Rummey Dummy cares for you, you are simply a SHEEP! The entire GOTP is a lie! Stop sucking down the Mittpiss!!! Drinking Mittpiss has burned out the last brain cells of the righties. Poor pathetic Zombies!!!

        • 3 votes
        Reply#17 - Tue May 29, 2012 6:55 PM EDT

        you should talk go have some more cool aid

          #17.1 - Wed May 30, 2012 9:58 AM EDT
          Reply

          it comes down to about 4-5 states. The rest of the country is set in their ways and don't matter. IE.. hitler could win the black vote if he was black. Unless more states get in play this election is fairly close. While Obama is worse than carter, the demographics have changed. You scare a few old people and give a way a few freebies, that can go along way toward winning. Everyone knows that the boomer generation wants freebies and no sacrafice. Whoever can scare them the most, wins the election.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#18 - Tue May 29, 2012 7:45 PM EDT

          jollyjoke , I'm a BOOMER and what I recieve is NOT a freebie . It's something that myself and millions of others have worked at least 2/3 of our lives and paid into you idiot . So the next time you talk about freebies keep this in mind . Stay the hell off of the roads and parks and such that us BOOMERS helped paid for with our patriotic duty of PAYING TAXES . And while you're at it , next time that you get paid overtime give the money back because that is another thing that us BOOMERS made possible for you through ,dare I say it ,UNIONS . we forced this goverment to get implement child labor laws ,40 hour work week safety in the work place laws and I could go on . People like you are one of three things ,if not all three things combined . You're either really ignorant , unpatriotic or just plain selfish. You are not an american ,you are nothing more than a an extremist who follows what people say instead of thinking for your self . And what scares me is people like cantor and romney saying that they want to do away with medicare and cut s.s. How do you're parents feel about these FREEBIES that they are getting or going to be getting ?

          • 6 votes
          Reply#19 - Tue May 29, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

          Thank you stoneemall! From one boomer to another.

          • 3 votes
          #19.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 8:50 PM EDT

          SS and Medicare are the largest expenses we have. If we don't reform them someway, they will surely bankrupt us. If you collect a penny more than you paid in, then, yes, that is recieving something for free.

            #19.2 - Tue May 29, 2012 9:08 PM EDT

            The Republicans ran up our national debt into the Trillions for the first time in history. They didn't fund tax cuts for the wealthy or their wars for oil because they had plans to pay for them with our Social Security. I paid for my social security over and over. Everyone from my generation paid into it for 30 and more years. I know people who are still working after 40 years! What makes you think we didn't earn every penny we will collect? Unfortunately my generation isn't benefiting from all that government funded medical research we paid for over many years which has increased YOUR life span (assuming you are not a Boomer). We are still dropping dead around 70 to 75. My full social security retirement age is 66 but the amount I would collect then is not enough to buy groceries these days! I'll need to work until the age of 70 to collect enough to buy groceries:( How do you think I will collect more than I paid in? Quite the opposite.

            Since you don't care about us, then think about yourself. The Republicans plan to cut taxes for the 1% again once they get Romney in the White House. They plan to raise the taxes on the middle class but it won't be enough to pay for any of the perks they will give their pals at the top. Besides all programs we have in place to help the poorest and most vulnerable in our society, where else do you think they will get the money to pay for those tax cuts??? Reform??? I don't think so. There will be nothing that can be done to save even a tiny pittance of social security once they get their hands on it. If you can't understand that or doubt it then I don't know what else can be said.

            • 2 votes
            #19.3 - Tue May 29, 2012 10:14 PM EDT

            i understand you dont have the fainest idea of what your talking about shake head make hollow sound

              #19.4 - Wed May 30, 2012 10:02 AM EDT

              stoneemall - the only rant the GOP has is about "freebies" knowing full well that most of us work and earn our own money. But, it's their ignorant chant - it's all they have. They are truly a pitiful lot!

              jockland - you've made it perfectly clear you don't have the faintest idea of what "you're" talking about. Shake head then make hollow sound.

              Again, no sanity to be found in the GOP!

              • 1 vote
              #19.5 - Wed May 30, 2012 12:06 PM EDT

              Jockland, I say you are the one who doesn't have a clue. If you support Romney why don't you even know what his economic plan is once he's in office? It's out there. Find it and read it. If you are at any level of the middle class you'll be a little queasy once you figure out that his tax cuts and increased military spending will actually raise the deficit higher. His plan to fix that? "Eliminate tax loopholes". Yet when asked to explain which loopholes he would close he is silent. Won't tell. It's a secret. Guess why. Like I said, you should be very queasy when you actually read his plans for our country. If not then you are hopeless.

                #19.6 - Wed May 30, 2012 7:17 PM EDT
                Reply

                It was Romney and his cronies that dam near destroyed America and brought us to the brink of bankruptcy. It was Obama and his educated administration that avoided the disaster caused by the Republican policies. The simpletons continue the pathetic sit on your hands and do nothing governing. They claimed there was no problem with the economy. How clueless is the party of no and anything for more POWER? We would be in a cesspool if the Conservatives continued their greedy nonsense.

                • 6 votes
                Reply#20 - Tue May 29, 2012 8:29 PM EDT

                Smells like a cesspool to the millions of Americans still unemployed! But that's okay, spin it any way you want it--November is soon enough!

                  #20.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 9:05 PM EDT

                  How old are you, Mike? Your continued ignorant comments places you in 3rd grade.

                  • 3 votes
                  #20.2 - Tue May 29, 2012 10:18 PM EDT

                  seams to me we are in a cesspool caused by libs controling both houses and the wh before the mid term election

                    #20.3 - Wed May 30, 2012 10:05 AM EDT

                    macman01 - I think you're giving Mike WAY too much credit!

                    • 1 vote
                    #20.4 - Wed May 30, 2012 12:08 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Oh, poor, poor, poor PresiDEBT Obama. Now he actually HAS a record to run on, and it won't be so easy to fool the public this time around.

                    Vote ABO in 2012!

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#21 - Tue May 29, 2012 8:47 PM EDT

                    Romney is a liar. As the front runner in the run up to be the candidate for the party of NO he has been forced to lower himself to stand with scum bags like Trump and Gingrich. Laughable. And as a member of the party that decided to throw the people of this country under the bus in a plan to secure the presidency once again for the top 1%, he has no credibility. He's a liar. He is known as a liar. Each of his opponents in this ridiculous GOP race said as much over and over again. His lies were plastered all over the the media during this joke of a GOP primary. Though the others are liars too they at least told the truth about Romney. In spite of his lie Romney has no interest in small business. He has no interest in creating jobs. He is interested in placing himself in the White House for the power he will then wield. His Super PAC billionaire supporters are spending millions of their own dollars to make sure that happens. Then it will be their country. No longer ours. I find it nearly difficult to understand how so many Americans can be so fooled by the right wing.

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#22 - Tue May 29, 2012 8:49 PM EDT

                    Oooooh, do clue us all in on what Romney's evil plan is! Specifics, please! LOL!

                      #22.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 9:04 PM EDT

                      If you don't know what his "plan" is that's your problem. Well, could be my problem too since you will vote for him. Once he gets in you will know soon enough. I've been around here long enough to know that you don't really want to know "specifics". You've been told enough times. Romney will just finish what Bush started. That's the plan. You figure out the rest.

                      • 3 votes
                      #22.2 - Tue May 29, 2012 9:48 PM EDT
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                      PresiDEBT Obama seems a little unfocused. Whatever happened to his "laser-like" focus on jobs? Why has unemployment remained above 8% for his entire term? No President has ever been re-elected with those kind of numbers.

                      He got his big $787 billion stimulus. He screwed the bondholders of GM. He has wasted billions more on his "green" energy companies like Solyndra.

                      Why doesn't he call out the Senate for not passing any budget in over 3 years? Why is he letting Harry Reid get away with postponing budget work until AFTER the election? Is it solely because he doesn't want the Dems to have to explain their budget votes?

                      And Consider It, I will gladly tell you that it is not surprising to us right-wing types why and how PresiDEBT Obama has fooled the left-wingers. We just hope that the moderates and independents aren't snookered again!

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                      Reply#23 - Tue May 29, 2012 8:56 PM EDT

                      Just so ya know. I'm not a left winger Mr. You really believe that Independents don't have anything to say about what's going on all around us? I've always been an Independent. I wish there were more of us.

                      If McCain had won rather than Obama we'd be in even deeper doo-doo bud. Obama had one hell of a mess to clean up when he took over. Any progress is surprising. And there has been a lot of it which you refuse to give him credit for. I'm no fool as you say. I'm WATCHING and LISTENING to everything said and done on both sides as well as keeping track of it.

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                      #23.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 10:30 PM EDT

                      Mike you have been under a rock. The house of Rep. has fought a budget three years in a row. It is the house of Rep. that writes the budget that is the forerunner to the senate and the President. The redesigned Reagan and Bush jr styles of governing made you think that it was suppose to be that way that they ran things. Well neither of the governing styles made this country financially sound. The laser is working fine, ask Willard. He is eating cheese from Trump, that should not be. After all he is a bankrupt king and the tax payer paid off his debt.

                        #23.2 - Tue May 29, 2012 10:50 PM EDT
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                        Well this country has failed twice and a Repug was at the controls both times. It took a Dem the first time to pull it out, and that congress fought FDR tooth and nail. CEO's have not been good for this country. Then we also had a actor once and he wasn't good either.

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                        Reply#24 - Tue May 29, 2012 10:37 PM EDT

                        yeah, all that actor did was tear down some silly old wall in germany

                          #24.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 10:54 PM EDT

                          He didn't tear down anything. The people of East Germany tore it down. Just like the Seal's killed Bin Laden. Make up you GOP loving mind.

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                          #24.2 - Tue May 29, 2012 10:59 PM EDT

                          omg. are you serious? try watching the history channel sometime. Reagan orchestrated the tearing down of the wall. Maybe you missed it, "Tear down that wall Mr. Gorbachev". Ring a bell at all?

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                          #24.3 - Tue May 29, 2012 11:05 PM EDT

                          I was in the military at the time. Reagan wasn't there. Hmmm, did you see him standing there pulling down any parts of the wall. He made a speech about it.

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                          #24.4 - Tue May 29, 2012 11:07 PM EDT

                          dude, there was a lot of politics beforehand

                            #24.5 - Tue May 29, 2012 11:55 PM EDT

                            "Tear down that wall Mr. Gorbachev". Ring a bell at all?

                            Duh, was the wall already coming down, or did Reagan bring down the wall. Get you events in the correct order. The wall came down, Reagan capitalized on it after the fact. Let me guess, you believe the KKK in the US brought their activities under control before the government cracked down. Get a clue, clueless girl.

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                            #24.6 - Wed May 30, 2012 1:42 AM EDT
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                            Here is some history for you to read German Gem, check it out. You may have gotten some things turned around. As I said he made a speech.

                            In 1989, a radical series of political changes occurred in the Eastern Bloc, associated with the liberalization of the Eastern Bloc's authoritarian systems and the erosion of political power in the pro-Soviet governments in nearby Poland and Hungary. After several weeks of civil unrest, the East German government announced on 9 November 1989 that all GDR citizens could visit West Germany and West Berlin. Crowds of East Germans crossed and climbed onto the wall, joined by West Germans on the other side in a celebratory atmosphere. Over the next few weeks, a euphoric public and souvenir hunters chipped away parts of the wall; the governments later used industrial equipment to remove most of the rest. The fall of the Berlin Wall paved the way for German reunification, which was formally concluded on 3 October 1990.

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                            Reply#25 - Tue May 29, 2012 11:19 PM EDT

                            we are not on the same page with this topic, oh well, NEXT lol

                              #25.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 11:59 PM EDT

                              Gotta love dismissive German Gems .. let me guess, the Holocaust never happened, it was something thrust on you, 3rd cousin removed, twice divorced, and eight uncles over .. you weren't around, it doesn't exist. LOL or is that lol, or is it we laugh out loud because you are so dismissive? Gotta love a Nazi lover on a different page.

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                              #25.2 - Wed May 30, 2012 1:37 AM EDT
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                              O'Bama is up to bat and has (at least) 2 strikes against him. 1) failed economic policies with the unemployed giving up looking for work - including myself. And 2) his recent gaffe about WWII death camps. OK folks what is your 3rd strike? Hint - read "The Amateur" which is now on the best sellers list.

                                Reply#26 - Tue May 29, 2012 11:23 PM EDT

                                Sorrow you are giving up. I lived thru the Reagan era and it was worst than this for me cause I had a young family. Went into the military, and it wasn't what I wanted. This was 1984, so from 1980 until 1984 nothing got better either. Reagan got another shot. See this time around more of the established middle class fell out. The reason it fell out wasn't Obama. The reason it has been so slow isn't Obama's either. Live awhile Carole see life as what it really is and not what you think it should be.

                                  #26.1 - Tue May 29, 2012 11:37 PM EDT

                                  my mother was widowed with 3 young children in 1977, in 1980 Reagans cuts hit our family immediately, mom worked hard and put 2 kids thru medical school, without gov't handouts. working hard paid off in the 80's, now working hard just goes to pay for others NOT to work.

                                    #26.2 - Tue May 29, 2012 11:46 PM EDT

                                    Whether you know it are not Reagan killed government hand outs during the 80's. So not to be mean, you mother wasn't gonna get any. Yet it sounds that she made do just like a lot of people.

                                      #26.3 - Tue May 29, 2012 11:53 PM EDT

                                      we got a bunch of money until Reagan, you care to dispute MY life history? lol

                                        #26.4 - Wed May 30, 2012 12:02 AM EDT

                                        You are a little kind Carole.. In my mind... obama struck out 5 times and was ejected for poor sportsmanship!

                                          #26.5 - Wed May 30, 2012 7:25 AM EDT
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