"President Obama and I came into office determined to end the war in Iraq responsibly, and today our troops are home," he said.

Our troops are not home...instead more units are getting ready to deploy for another year.

New poll has those more likely to have recovered supporting Obama, and those that have not recovered supporting Romney.

Who are the tax payers supporting? Those that recovered from the resession are far more likely to be paying taxes.

Can't use the free handout lines anymore.

Biden touts foreign policy? Is this the same Biden that was against the surge in both Iraq and Afghanistan? Is this the same Biden that said that the Iraq War was lost? He counts the killing of OBL as a foreign POLICY accomplishment, I would think it was a military accomplishment and not a foreign policy. While I applaud the killing of OBL by our elite special operations forces, it should never have been used for political purposes and it should have included making sure those Pakistanis that helped us were protected from reprisals from the Pakistani government, mainly because they took the raid as a slap in the face to them.

As far as the Iraqi War, the removal of troops was in an agreement between the Bush Administration and the Iraqi Government, and really had nothing to do with Obama. If Obama had gotten his way we would still have forces in Iraq. Remember he tried to negotiate a new SOFA but could not get the Iraqi's to agree to our terms so we HAD to leave in accordance with the Bush/Iraqi Agreement.

When it comes to Foreign Policy, Joe Biden is a joke and Obama really doesn't have one.

Although Biden did not mention the ongoing election fight, he echoed some lines from his past campaign speeches, including a heaping of praise on those who executed the mission to kill Osama bin Laden last year.

Did he menion the leaks from the White House that caused the doctor that helped us to be given a 33-year sentence at hard labor in a Pakistan prison?

I just read an article saying that the military is now opposed to the GOP's policies toward defense.

Post that article Adler..........

Jumpin" Joes' son may be in the military but ol' Joe used family influence and some drummed up medical excuse to avoid the draft during the Vietnam War era!It's funny to watch ol' Joe and Berries belittle and verbally castigate "big oil " when that's exactly what his grandfather and his father were involved ! Guess ol' Joe just couldn''t handled the stresses of business!

Biden is an insult to all thinking Americans... How anyone can vote for the Obama/Biden ticket, given the mess they've made out of just about everything, is beyond me. Are our citizen voters that dense, that immune to reality? Dump Biden and our wordwide 'beloved' POTUS in November.

What a poor excuse of a person to address West Point grads. This man is a creep with a BIG NASTY MOUTH that could have just as easily said the fu word during his address as anything. Disgusting. He thinks he's a ladies man, we get a picture of him presenting a diploma to a young female grad.

The ugly truth for liberals is that Obama has no real accomplishments to run on. Hence Obama and Biden have to sell the foreign policy fictional narrative …. Featuring the courageous and neverending “I Got bin Laden” end zone dance.

Obama kicked it off with a Big Bill commercial, Clinton touchingly reflecting in a somber voice ”He had to decide …. that’s what you hire a president to do … you hire the president to make the calls when no one else can … nobody can make the decision for him.”…

The editors of IBD had a slightly different take on that, though …. stating in their “Memo Reveals The ‘Gutsy’ Bin Laden Call That Wasn’t” … “the final decision to pull the trigger on the world’s most-wanted man was delegated to an admiral who undoubtedly would have been thrown under the bus had the mission failed.”

Seems there was a memo and according to that memo written by Leon Panetta (obtained by Time magazine), William McRaven, a 3 star admiral and former SEAL called the shots …

“The timing, operational decision-making and control are in Admiral McRaven’s hands.

That sounds OK, but the truly amazing part, what was stunning was the next sentence …

The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the president.”

In other words … if everybody pinky swears it’s OK - ”nobody can make the decision for him” …. unless it goes wrong … then McRaven made the decision.

If that second sentence isn’t an intentional “CYA”, codified and documented cowardly out to blame McRaven …. If that isn’t a reservation under the bus next to the oil pan … what is? Truly gutless since everyone knows no one really knows after the first shot is fired. That is certainly not how a real CiC leads.

Clinton talks about the risks, the SEALs … “suppose they had been captured or killed … the downside would have been horrible for him.”

The downside would have been horrible for Obama – that is what Obama’s main concern was? These guys were risking their lives and Obama was worried about his political risk?

Obama is simply not worthy of these men.

And btw, 25 of SEAL Team 6 were killed … 4 months later … 4 months after the Obama administration outed SEAL Team 6 in their celebration and naïve exhuberance … all killed in a planned ambush of SEAL Team 6 – resulting in the largest SEAL loss in history!

Think that was a coincidence?

Yea … About as coincidental as 2 airliners flying into the 2 tallest buildings in NYC on the same morning – resulting in one of the largest losses of life in American history.

Obama was so very concerned about offending the sensitivities of Muslims, was so very careful of his handling and respect for bin Laden’s worthless corpse, but Obama didn’t hesitate to “spike” the football and jeopardize the lives … lives that in fact were subsequently lost … the lives of the real American heroes.

So Obama had to make a trip to Dover for the photo-op. Too bad the families had requested no cameras … Obama took his photographer anyway and managed to get the money shot broadcast/published in time to make the news deadlines.

You call that respect?

The sad part for Obama was that after the SEAL loss, the planned feature film to be released in October, coincidently just weeks before Obama’s re-election, had to be moved back to after the elections. That’s really something when Hollywood libs pull back because the political capitalizing / agenda is too obvious, shameless and crass.

The Pentagon’s Inspector General is investigating whether or not the White House released classified information to Kathryn Bigelow and Ethan Miller, the director and screenwriter. Evidently many in the military, intelligence and special forces communities were shocked when the two, among other things / places- showed up at a CIA ceremony celebrating the SEALs with upper echelons of the White House. Now it turns out that the secret real SEAL team leader was introduced, Hollywood got access to the top secret CIA operations “Vault” …. The guy in Pakistan that identified bin Laden and made the raid possible was not protected and was subsequently tried for treason … What a bunch of pathetic, clueless, bumbling buffoons Obama and Biden are.

And btw - If getting bin Laden was the be-all and end-all, why did 640 Americans have to give their lives in Afghanistan since Obama was told bin Laden was in Pakistan? 640 … that’s more than 1 ½ times the total number lost under Bush in over 7 years!

Decisive Commander In Chief as Obama tries to portray himself?

Bush had troops in Afghanistan within 2 months of 9-11 and had driven bin Laden, Al Qaeda and the Taliban out of Afghanistan within another 2 months – one of the most incredible military accomplishments in history considering the number of forces and swiftness. Obama took almost 10 months to take out an old man protected by 4-5 guys with AKs.

Libs remind us everyday how Obama proclaimed he would go into Pakistan to get Osama. They seem to forget that Obama also proclaimed that Afghanistan was the “smart war” … the war “that had to be won” … “that he would win the war.”

And how is that going?

How many years has it been since anyone has even heard Obama say the words “win and “Afghanistan” in the same sentence. How many times has Obama even talked about Afghanistan .. what 2 addresses in 3 ½ years … one announcing doubling down while giving the Taliban what is tantamount to a “we quite date” and the other confirming the “we are still quiting?”

Does anyone realize that of the 1,545 total losses in Afghanistan – 73% have come under Obama … Almost 3 out of every 4 deaths have come under Obama in just 3 ½ years of the 10 year war?

Does anyone realize that our average monthly loss rate under Obama is over 5 TIMES the loss rate under Bush, that in 23 of Obama’s 40 months – we have lost more lives than Bush’s worst month …. All for a “responsible withdrawal” …. A place Obama is going to just walk away from!

Training? Our allies are killing us, their trainers … walking up and shooting our troops in the back of the head in secured areas. Obama’s pentagon counts these deaths as combat in effort to hide them, yet turn the murders (those that survive) over to Afghan authorities. Estimates of these hidden atrocities are as high as 200!

Our ally … that has stated that if it came to a conflict between Pakistan (our former ally) and the US … they would side with Pakistan! And we are dying for these guys?

Obama is a unmitigated disaster …. Nothing but an incompetent community organizer way out of his depth.

SeekingSanity says...

West Pointers were lucky to have Joe Biden address them.

How pathetic. It is an absolute honor and privilege for anyone to address the West Point Class.

Biden nor Obama are not worthy of these men and women. It is a testament to their focus and dedication to country that puke bags weren't necessary.

@boblotsa numbers, lotsa paragraphs(30+), lotsa issues (12+);

Was there a point to that post?

Bosslimo and GT - You are both idiots, read my post before popping off, when did I say I agreed with the Iraqi war? In fact in many posts I have said that Bush took his eye off the ball in Afghanistan and should never have gone into Iraq. Because he stood on the deck of an Aircraft carrier that gives Obama the right to to "spike the ball" over the killing of OBL? It makes them both look silly.

As for lying about WMDs in Iraq, a lot of the information was the same used by President Clinton. Also a lot of the Democrats in congress supported the Iraqi war when it was voted on. My whole point is Obama wants to take credit for ending the war in Iraq when in fact he wanted to continue stationing troops in Iraq but was turned down by the Iraqi government. So much for his foreign policy negotiating skills.

It will be great to see Democrats counter-remarks to your post.....bob-1805084.

Now, let's see how LONG it will take the Democrats to grasp what you stated.

Ooooops, got one (RedDevPS) already who commented on your message and a quick note stating a complete lack of understanding.

Ask yourself how many deferments did Biden get to stay out of Vietnam? He took the max. just like a lot of our leaders today and IMO aren't worthy to address the cadets.

Clinton and the rest of them made a mockery of service to the country as they proved you can snake out of the draft and still come out on top 40 years later.

BTW, there is no foreign policy of this administration. The reason they have a higher approval rating that Bush is because Obama and company gives them anything they want from us.

Bob-1805084

Here is alink that is from the islamic side of the story. I am in no way defending the muslims just looking for the truth.

http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=733%3Awhy-osama-bin-laden-dead-is-a-government-lie-&catid=58%3Athe-911-event&Itemid=115

By the way bob i totally agree with your post. Great post

@Ido - the incoherence isn't on the part of the reader, rather the poster. If you are going to spin a tale about graduating cadets from an Academy being addressed by the VP, and tie it to 9/11 conspiracy events (apparently planned by Bush, but now Obama), and tie it to a conspiracy about the killing of bin Laden and the fate of Seal Team Six, along with the death rate of troops in Afghanistan but ignore the death toll in Iraq, stirred in with a Hollywood movie, shaken with an imprisoned Pakistani doctor and an attack on Pakistan .. and that just scratches the surface of the unsupported insinuations.

If I want a dose of impending invasions and Chinese troop buildup in Cuba and Mexico, FEMA camps to enslave the general population, Harp caused quakes in Japan and Maryland, underground Draconian/Reptilian feeding bases, plenty of other sites deal with those issues. What any of that conspiracy theory fun reading has to do with Biden addressing West Point is simply beyond me.

Again, the point of the lotsa Bob#s/paragraphs/subjects was what? To illustrate delusional paranoia?

GT: Sfcret - By political purposes, do you mean like standing on a AC carrier with a mission accomplished banner?

About the "Mission Accomplished" liberal crap, what is wrong with the CiC congratulating a crew, a crew that had the longest deployment since the Viet Nam War, a crew that had in fact accomplished their mission - executing flight operations in the most dangerous work environment in the world in a time of war?

Why are liberals too intentionally obtuse to not accept that war and mission are not synonyms?

Have any of you heard of the Civil Mission, World Mission I and World Mission II ... the Korean Mission?

Regardless ... why do you wantonly ignore what Bush actually said on that flight deck that day ...

Does that sound like Bush was saying we had won the war?

Nope, "Mission Accomplished" was taken out of context, distorted and used for political capital - Nothing Less.

And what did libs accomplish by undermining the war effort, marginalizing the CiC?

Aside from motivating the insurgency in Iraq and the Taliban in Afghanistan, it interesting to consider another thing Bush said ... a reoccurring theme of "for diplomacy to work, words have to have meaning."

After 12 years of speeches, 17 UN resolutions .... what was working. Words and resolutions certainly weren't.

Why would they .... they had no meaning.

Bush also talked about the Axis of Evil and libs loaded their diapers.

Funny that out of Iraq, N. Korea, Iran, Syria and Libya ... turns out that Iraq - the one country everybody in the world knew/believed had WMD - was the only one that didn't?

Yea ... right.

Why did Hussein lose everything, including his and his sorry sons lives?
He simply did not believe an American president's words ... didn't believe Bush had the guts to actually do it.

Funny ... it was too late for Hussein & Sons, but what about the others? Gaddaffi seems to have believed, turning over his nuclear program ... Iran had stopped their program ...

Then the liberal news led off every night with the daily death updates, the milestone deaths ... "this makes the 'blank' death since President Bush announced "Mission Accomplished" - Bush was marginalized and neutered..... the political game had been won .... the big worry, the biggest state sponsor of terrorism, Iran, re-started their program.

What might have been?

Regardless, Bush had a grand vision, had the guts to go with it, but greatly and tragically underestimated the depravity of those concerned solely with partisan political advantage.

Oh well, Obama got the old man sitting on the floor of his bedroom watching old videos of his glory days ... the glory days before Bush came along ... before words had much meaning.

God bless all those that served ... those that sacrificed so much .... regardless of the political they were handed.

Aside from the rightwing collapse cowards who can't stand the truth (we could collapse your posts too, and then what?), this is the only one with a good point of discussion:

Taishmoser

New poll has those more likely to have recovered supporting Obama, and those that have not recovered supporting Romney.

Who are the tax payers supporting? Those that recovered from the resession are far more likely to be paying taxes.

There are always those, primarily low-information voters, who blame the current person in the White House no matter what. Of course congress has far more control of the purse strings than the POTUS, and currently the Teapublican House is blocking job creation--These folks just don't pay enough attention.

There are some, primarily rightwingers, who are employed who despite their wages flat-lining and their benefits disappearing, blame safety nets as the problem for all our woes (not realizing they too may need a net one day), and worse believe the poor do not pay taxes.

This is "cow pie distortion." Even those collecting unemployment have to pay taxes unless they have dependents to write off, and the same goes for other assistance like food stamps that are geared to help children. And income taxes are only one tax, so of course the poor pay sales tax, state tax, maybe even property taxes.

The 47% of those folks not paying their fair share of income taxes are large families (religious-Right), and the self employed/business owners not subjected to third-party reporting (W2) that abuse write-offs to show zero income. The rest are the rich who only pay 15% on capital gains.

So STOP with the cow pie distortions and start looking out for your own best interests. At least Do No Harm - Obama/Biden - 2012!

RedDevPMS -

@boblotsa numbers, lotsa paragraphs(30+), lotsa issues (12+);

Was there a point to that post?

Not for libs .... I realize you guys have difficulty with anything that can't fit on a bumper sticker.

Thanks for reading counting the paragraphs, though.

West point is a good place for Biden the F-Bomber to meet F-52 Bomber.

Remember Joe's famous F-bomb to describe healthcare reform?

Bob-1805084 --

Great comment. Too bad the liberals here on the vine can't comprehend what you said. It really shows just how far our country's education system has fallen under liberal control.

Bush fabricated WMD and manufactured a war in Iraq, O'Bama scored a victory there.

O'Bama retaining Bob Gates showed the spirit of bilartisanship on this war.

GOP and Bush created a mess, DEM and O'Bama cleaned it up. Simple as that.

O'Bama has credit as the commander-in-chief. GOP need to give credit where credit is due. If not, voters will do anyway (give credit to O'Bama) in November 2012

O'Bama has credit as the commander-in-chief. GOP need to give credit where credit is due. If not, voters will do anyway (give credit to O'Bama) in November 2012

Let me just say I don't speak pigotry ... and I'm sure your comments were informed, educated and demonstrated acute perception, great discerment and insightfulness ...

.... but do you not know how to spell your idol's name, or do think he is Irish?

Ah - another fine post by boblotsa #s/paragraphs in which he completely misses the point - the politicization of military accomplishments.

Bush's infamous speech to announce an end to major combat operations in Iraq was a massive public relations flop, heck, he didn't even capture Saddam until December 2003, 7 months after his 'mission accomplished' speech. He ended major combat operations, yet the war continued on for almost another 10 years with massive loss of life.

After killing bin Laden, Obama made a simple, to the point speech (notice, he didn't airlift an aircraft carrier to the White House lawn or hire a plane with a banner proclaiming "bin Laden is Dead") delivering the message, "mission complete - bin Laden dead". His speech was a PR success.

Not only did Bush bungle the war on Iraq, bungle any sort of exit strategy, he continued to display his ineptness by delivering a speech that was a PR disaster.

Ah, but go ahead Bob, and continue on with your rants that libs with loaded diapers hid WMDs from the troops, that libs are responsible for troop and civilian deaths - it helps retain that delusional aura you so competently display.

Tammy-311614 -- Try using the Rule of Reason and thinking for yourself. Holy cow, you must pee like a racehorse after drinking so much Kool-Aid.

Too bad the liberals here on the vine can't comprehend what you said. It really shows just how far our country's education system has fallen under liberal control.

The educational system has always been liberal/progressive leaning, and thankfully so. Otherwise we would have higher institutions of learning that only teach us creationism, intelligent design, and bible studies as majors, with minor degrees in math, literature and art, and science relegated to heresy.

Already, we have to fight conservatives and their efforts to re-write American history by renaming the Slave Trade Route the Atlantic Triangular Trade Route. I can only imagine the next target will be renaming Japanese Camp Internment effort the Japanese Paid Holiday Act.

Extreme conservatives do not believe in education, they believe rote learning or put another way, propaganda memorization.

RedDevPS

After killing bin Laden, Obama made a simple, to the point speech (notice, he didn't airlift an aircraft carrier to the White House lawn or hire a plane with a banner proclaiming "bin Laden is Dead") delivering the message, "mission complete - bin Laden dead". His speech was a PR success.

RedDevPS

Of course, our President didn't need all that bravado. He said what he had to say in the White House and went on doing the people business.

President Obama said he's dead and left.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjsa0vvlq1qzu2tdo1_400.gif

BTW: Dubya killed the wrong man. Sadeem had nothing to do with 9-11.

BTW: Dubya killed the wrong man. Sadeem had nothing to do with 9-11.

Talk about a gaffe!! Oopsie!!

sfcret

And you missed my point... If the republicans claim Obama's foreign policies and actions are in question, why aren't they running on that?

You got dead pirates, dead Al Qaeda leaders, dead bin Laden, and a dead Gaddafi.

All I can read from conservatives is how the Obama Administration doesn't deserve to address West Point grads. Like only conservatives are American and everyone else are undeserving.

Patriotism left with Bush

SeekingSanity

West Pointers were lucky to have Joe Biden address them. In spite of his occasional gaffe, this man is astute on foreign relations. He loves and supports our country. His own sons have served in our military and he knows the sacrifice they each make.

Perfect post. Thanks. Repeated here for emphasis!

bob-1805084

Bob. I read your posts... ALL of them and it. But there's a lesson for you here:

Less is more while "more" is usually an attempt to rewrite history. This is true with your posts.

The reason no one is arguing point by point is that it's impossible to know where to start the debate... with your first false premise?... with your first false conclusion?... the first time you made "something" from nothing?

Those of us with "chain of command" decision making experience see absolutely NOTHING wrong with the way Obama organized, consulted, delegated, or otherwise decided the fate of bin Laden... beats the @!$%# out of being the puppet of your puppet master VP like Bush was.

Yes, the White House processes always include political cover. They always do. Every smart president always includes political cover in all they do... it protects the man, the country, the office.

Isn't the bigger point that Obama has not had to use his political cover?

Most think it is. And most don't swallow your twists and turns.

Did ol' Joe happen to mention THEY got Ben Ladin?,lol,(no help from the Man who built up the military forces, equipped them,developed the foreign contacts, the worldwide intelligence apparatus and the technologies that have kept us safe for the last decade), Well, there were a few more Foreign Policy "accomplishments" this administration has actually done on their own that He did fail to mention;

First day in office, returned a bust of Winston Churchill, a gift to the American People from England, insulting Them and embarrassing Us,(oh, if They were were only so quick to return tainted campaign contributions).

Obama stated he would not use the nuclear first strike option to defend the United States and would not use it at all to protect our allies in Europe and Asia, effectively abandoning those areas to Russian and Chinese spheres of influence.

Negated missile defense treaties with what had been our new Eastern European allies, refusing to station U.S. defensive troops in Poland , in order to prevent what happened in Georgia at the hands of the Russians from happening to them,(it is interesting to note shortly after that a Polish aircraft that had been maintained recently by the Russians, while carrying the Heads of the Polish government, crashed in Russia, killing everyone on board, of course the Russians investigated the incident and found themselves totally innocent, and that was Good enough for our President.

When an extremist Leftist President at the end of his Constitutionally restricted term in office in Honduras tried to illegally extend his rule, and the Honduran Supreme Court following Their law,removed the Man, Our President and Secretary of State,(Obama and Clinton), denounced Them and tried to impose sanctions on the legal Government until They allowed the radical to stay in power, fortunately Honduras showed great courage and refused to violate Their Constitution,(even though it is also interesting to note, shortly thereafter, during the Fast and Furious investigation, it was found Honduras was one of the Countries the Holder Justice Department funneled illegal arms to, arming anti-government forces in that country,more to come out on this, but mere coincidence I am sure).

And of couse let Us not forget the main beneficiary of those illegal weapons, the anti-government forces in the Pro U.S. country of Mexico,(how many thousands of people have been killed by the weapons Our "Justice" Department illegally sent there? Who knows)

He also failed to mention the great successes this administration has had keeping nuclear weapons out of the hands of North Korea and Iran,........oh......that's right, .....never mind.

Relations with our staunchest ally in the Middle East, Israel,..........never mind that one too.

and lest We forget the Arab spring, this Administration took an ally Egypt, and a country that was at least cooperating with Us then, Libya, and actively participated in the Destruction of those Governments, with no idea,(as far as We know),who is going to replace them, while completely ignoring the very real atrocities committed by an anti-American Dictator in Syria, doing nothing to help the people there.

Yup, this Administration has done a "heap" of things in just a few short years, imagine what they could do in another term when they would not have to worry about being accountable to anyone.

North Korea developed nuclear capabilities under the last President, and Iran is pretty much in the same place they've been for a decade. Kind of ridiculous to bring that up.

Obama, without the loss of a single American soldier, aided populist uprising and protected the civilian populations of two countries, and your complaint is he didn't do it thrice? Maybe he should have fixed all the problems in the region?

Or maybe you don't like the idea that people in a foreign nation have the right to whatever government they want, friendly to us or not. We intervened where we did because it had a chance to succeed without drawing us into a decade long ground war. Obviously not the case in Syria, and tho it'd be the right thing to do America wouldn't tolerate that level of military intervention right now.

Also seriously? People are still talking about the sting operation? Do you not know how these things work, and that they happen everyday? There are obviously way more than enough guns flowing to Mexico, the government didn't add appreciable to that, they tracked weapons that were going to be there anyway to find out how it's happening and maybe stop it. Like when a cop sells drugs to identify buyers and sellers. Or we allow money to be transfered for criminal purposes so we can track it. Or you know, any of the hundreds of other daily examples of that type of police work.

Also, seriously, more politicians could use Joe Biden's problem of being "too sincere". The guy speaks what he feels. This speech was particularly powerful. Dunno why we can't focus on that, I don't see how anyone of any political stripe could deny the message he gave.

"There will come a day, I promise you, and your parents, as well, when the thought of your son or daughter or your husband or wife brings a smile to your lips before it brings a tear to your eye."

Capt Tripps

In April and May of 2009 North Korea, in rapid succession, restarted it's nuclear weapons program,exploded a large nuclear device, and began work on delivery systems.

In 2011 Iran, with help from Russia, restarted its nuclear arms program.

During the Arab Spring Libya lost an estimated 35,000 people dead, much greater than anything that had happened beforehand, while Egypt lost a relatively smaller 850, still, much greater than anything that had happened before and putting Israel in extreme danger from what had been a relatively secure flank, and when combined with what is occurring in Iran, greatly increasing the probability of Israel having to take action there, in the interests of their own survival, which will cause the region to explode.

Sting Operation?,No,First of all, THOUSANDS of weapons is not a sting, THOUSANDS of weapons is arming, To be a sting operation there would have had to be some mechanism in place to track, account, and recover the weapons in question before they could do any harm,there was never any such process,completely negating the fairy tale of it being a "sting" operation.

With apologies to Omar Khayyam:

The moving hand of History writes,

and, having writ,

moves on,

and all your wishes to deflect or change it,

will not call it back again,

to change one word,

or erase one line.

Who is Biden trying to fool? Does he think we don't remember his idiotic plan to split Iraq into three countries?

"Yes We Can" has become

"No We Can't" because of Arab spring, the tsunami, Europe, pick the excuse of the week.

Bosslimo

And you missed my point... If the republicans claim Obama's foreign policies and actions are in question, why aren't they running on that?

...Like only conservatives are American and everyone else are undeserving.

Patriotism left with Bush.

Ain't that the truth. Teabaggers think they, and only they are patriots (thus my moniker), only they understand the constitution, and that our country belongs to only them.

Even being against a secular government--as if a theocracy is what the founding fathers intended, let alone a Christian Nation, which though this is the majority religion. shows obnoxious disregard for Jews and other faiths as well as those of no faith.

Teavangelicals, NO, you can't take our country back..ward.

reddev and tp -

You are prime examples of the 'modern' education system, spouting your version of history - re-written by the progressives that fail to understand the lessons. History isn't always pretty. It is often bloody and not politically correct. But then, re-writing the history books has always been a liberal undertaking and heaven help if a conservative wants to try to stick to the bloody (as in the true representation of wars) truth! Liberal apologists have even been trying to re-write 9/11 as being the fault of the US!

As for critical thinking, I can see that you failed that course in school.

Oops! My bad! They don't teach critical thinking any more in the modern school system! It's a very large part of the reason our students today do so badly in mathematics and science and why we are lagging behind in thise fields.

Aside from the rightwing collapse cowards who can't stand the truth

I consider it a badge of honor and a direct hit on them. They can't handle it, so they sweep it under the rug. Just like the Republicans always do. And don't worry, Romney's already lost this election when he outlined his plans to return to the policies of George W. Bush.

It really shows just how far our country's education system has fallen under liberal control.

Oh really! Didn't our public education system start failing 30 years ago under your patron saint Ronnie Raygun? I think it did. And you folks want to destroy public education so only those you deem qualified will get one. Tammy, are you really a women?

Oops! My bad! They don't teach critical thinking any more in the modern school system!

You're proof of that. Can you say baaahhhhh!

Biden is a good man, he's not like Romney with fake credentials - I salute to Biden !!! Happy Memorial day to all our Vets !!!

At West Point, Biden warns of new challenges

Yes, the main challenge will be the jerk Biden and his sidekick Dumbama for a possible 4 more years.

I hope we and the USA survive that!

Biden is a good, intelligent man. He may speak before he thinks sometimes but at least he has an opinion and isn't an empty suit. He has suffered tragedy of unimaginable proportions and his sons served in the military which is more than can be said for Romney's and his 5 sons.

Are you better off now or 4 years ago? Of course not and this administration blames Busch and will continue to do so to stay in office. Let them take responsibility for their own stupid actions.

Let's see: with the Dow up nearly double from what it was in 2009, 4.25 million private sector jobs created, unemployment at 8.1%, bin Laden dead, GM and the rest of the auto industry back and booming, and a stabilizing housing market, hell yea I'm better than I was 4 years ago. While I do think that Obama and Biden ought to take responsibility for their many mistakes, I do believe they should also be given credit for their many accomplishments.

bob-1805084

GT: Sfcret - By political purposes, do you mean like standing on a AC carrier with a mission accomplished banner?

About the "Mission Accomplished" liberal crap, what is wrong with the CiC congratulating a crew, a crew that had the longest deployment since the Viet Nam War, a crew that had in fact accomplished their mission - executing flight operations in the most dangerous work environment in the world in a time of war?

Well, what is wrong with the President congratulating the military (which he did) and the intelligence for their efforts and then taking some credit for himself, which he rightly deserves for making the decision??? If he had failed, you righties would be all over it, so shut the hell up and give some credit where credit is due. And by the way, at least Obama didn't spike the football prematurely; we only got out of Iraq under OBAMA's administration.

Regardless ... why do you wantonly ignore what Bush actually said on that flight deck that day ...

Does that sound like Bush was saying we had won the war?

Well, it does sound like he was saying that we were winning, even though we had another 7 years until the end of the war. And by the way, even if he didn't say that we won the war, don't you think it is mighty weird that he was under a banner saying "Mission Accomplished????"

Nope, "Mission Accomplished" was taken out of context, distorted and used for political capital - Nothing Less.

So was 9/11, which was used by the GOP in 2004 to scare America into voting for Bush again. Think about that; 3,000 lives lost in one day, and all to be used as political capital in 2004. Don't see you bitching about that. So shut up. Mission Accomplished was a premature celebration; you know it. Just admit it.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

Dan Ott - what a strange post. Biden doesn't refer to himself as the "all-ladies man" and why the question about Hillary? Have you already been drinking that much?

SeekingSanity- The GOP complain about Biden...but I haven't seen Cheney or Bush show at least the same respect to our servicemen on this Holiday.

Every time a casualty report came in, Cheney probably said "so what?" They sure didn't want the coffins in the news.

Pretty sure the highlight of the speech was Biden talking about himself and empathizing with the pain of losing your loved ones. Something our military families obviously know all too well.

I'm pretty sure you didn't bother to watch Biden's speech Capt Tripps.

Its a real challenge to critique something you haven't seen.

You get a star on your bozo button for trying though.

"Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be Vice President of the United States of America. Let's get that straight. She's a truly close personal friend. She is qualified to be President of the United States of America. She's easily qualified to be Vice President of the United States of America. Quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me. But she's first rate."

— Joe Biden, suggesting Obama's former rival Senator Hillary Clinton might have been a better choice for the Vice President than him at a rally in Nashua, N.H.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1895156_1894977_1847918,00.html #ixzz1w5maxky3

Joe Biden is over qualified for VP, also he's not beaten the war drums like the GOP Crazy TeaReTards. The RePub A Cons are WarMongers !

The weekend WSJ had a Hillaryous story about yet another failing socialist state that has run afoul of Margaret Thacher’s famous statement about socialism:

“The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money to spend.”

This is not another failed European socialist state, It is the state that gave us good, upstanding, proud, socialist’s like Barry Obama, Nasty DumbFux and Bev: Illinois.

Last year, Illinois raised its personal income tax rate by 60% and its corporate tax rate by 30% retro to January 1, 2011. And they still have a huge $2.7 billion state budget deficit in 2012. And the state comptroller estimates there are more than $9 billion in unpaid bills sitting in various state offices. So the Dem controlled legislature has passed a bill CUTTING Medicaid by $1.7 billion and doubling the state tax on cigarettes by $1 billion. The Dem governor has said he will sign the bill. And this doesn’t even begin to address the state’s biggest financial headache: the Illinois state pension fund has a shortfall between assets and liabilities of $83 billion. The Dem governor has proposed increasing the retirement age and increasing the workers share of retirement contributions.

Have Illinois Dem politicians been turned into evil Republican’s??

You couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I second that"

Only in your world of delusion, where you think they are socialist/nazis (however those work together in your head) that want to ruin the country. Otherwise, it is very fitting to have a high profile person from government congratulate one of our elite military institutions.

What a slap in the face for that idiot Joe Biden to address the fine young men and woman of West Point.

For many of those fine young men and women, it was probably the thrill of their lives to have a sitting VP at their commencement. You, on the other hand, are a loser sitting in your trailer with nothing on your agenda other than trolling. Must be sad for you.

I graduated from West Point and I don't think so tony beerm.

There's only ONE woman at West Point? Wow - I gotta call my daughter and tell her congrats for being the only woman at WP! Sorry Common Man, I couldn't resist.

You are entitled to your opinion, but I can tell you that the cadets listen respectfully to all who come to speak to them, regardless of their personal views. In fact, did you know that WP leadership routinely invites speakers with wildly different perspectives to talk to the cadets on many issues. Leadership requires that you listen to all viewpoints and not be ignorant in order to make the tough decisions. We could learn alot from these young men and women.

Well, Boohoo, I gotta agree with you, it's probably not the "thrill of their lives". LOL

I apologize in advance if I offend anyone here. Just starting a new round of steroids and radiation makes me grumpy. A subtropical storm (Beryl, and I live on an island, my hubby is a priority employee at our local hospital and my brother in law all arrive at the same time) But for all the carping about the VP and POTUS may see your DD214's? I have one. So does hubby.

Hope you are doing well Phine. I'm praying for you. Chin up and keep a good thought!

I'm an Independent and a Vet and l say the Tea NutBaggers are a dishonor to this Nation !!!

well, Patrotic American. I am also a Vet and Independent. I say that the dumbass democrat party and libertards are a dishonor to this nation!!!

FU

Keep fighting, Phine!!

Biden the F-bomber is the perfect choice to address these future pilots of F-52 Bombers.

Obama/Biden 2012

Reminder: Biden the F-Bomber got this nickname when he described the newsly passed health care reform law as 'F-" big, or sth like that - without realizing there was a open mike.

Biden the F-Bomber got this nickname when he described the newsly passed health care reform law as 'F-" big, or sth like that - without realizing there was a open mike.

at least he's a human being, unlike plastic man Mitt Romney.

Why wouldn't you spell @!$%#? Seriously, use your adult words, and stop being all "OMG A SWEAR". Normal people say @!$%#.

I prefer to write something like %@$#&^@, because it literally means the same as any actual word you might type instead. And for me it's more accurate.

Mitt is caulking up the holes in his party, there is no easy fix to this problem with the nutty teabaggers in their !

You call yourself a vet? What kinds of animals do you specialize in? Jackasses?

Pigotry, what in hell is an F52? F designates a fighter plane. B-52s are flown by the Air Force. They've been a separate service from the Army since 1947. Do try to keep up!

Actually there was a great deal of applause for President Obama. Biden did NOT refer to West Point as The Citidel. Neither did he misspeak about the NATO summit. Your stupid post is just that!

The President is NOT playing golf today. Your ignorance is only overshadowed by your eagerness to show it. Now go away and play with the other haters.
You prove daily there is no sanity, no intelligence, no class in the GOP!

Obama/Biden 2012

@DCDevo: The President rotates thru the academies, one year WP, the next year, USNA, the next year USAFA, etc. This year he was at USAFA. Your ignorance is astounding.

It never ends.

If Obama was there, you'd accuse him of neglecting the country.

Whatever the president does, conservatives immediately take the opposite side.

That was apparent when the conservatives actually stood up and cheered when America lost the Olympic bid. Listening to conservatives, it wasn't America's bid, it was the president's. Somehow, conservatives are the only Americans and everyone else are enemies.

Just for icing on the pile, they just make up random comments to make their own president look bad.

Patriotism left with Bush

From what I always read around here, the only true Americans are members of the GOP, screw the constitution that says everyone is allowed an opinion and vote - only real Americans are the GOP, or am I reading these posts wrong?

No friend phine , you are reading perfectly well .

Seeking Sanity,

These Teabaggers, like DCDevo, get positively giddy when they lie like that.

It makes them feel so clever.

The TeaNut Baggers in Congress are a National disgrace !

I suppose you are proud of Obama, the worst President in US history and Biden who is a complete joke. Actually, Obama, Biden, Pelosi and Harry Reid, your leaders are total Jokes. Talking about a disgrace!!! You are obviously delusional and stupid!

Below average American, "A" for spelling, "F" for history.

tonybeeerm-love your new avatar

Please get a life. Channel your hatred into some charitable enterprise. Perhaps once you have done something for someone else, you might learn to see that the world is never black or white...there are many shades of gray.

Or, stay home and spew your venom on these websites. The choice is yours.

How many troops do we have in Germany or Japan? How long ago did war with them end? When we pull out after a war we keep "house keeping" forces around to protect our interests and our embassy. Since the US Embassy in Baghdad is one of the largest in the world it will take quite a few troops to guard it.

People in the Defense Department are praising Obama's foreign policy and his use of the military. He was the one, for example, who ordered the Navy Seals to take out OBL. When the Commander in Chief orders something good military personell obey.

VP Biden is a recongnized expert on foreign policy. His sons have served and are serving. Instead of starting unnecessary wars this Administration is working for peace. They supported the Arab Spring movement in the Middle East. Dictators across the region have been deposed. Egypt, for example, has just had their first free election in decades.

Obama can't win with a conservative.

Remember when pirates held a captain and his crew hostage?

They were screaming that the president was weak. The president was being controlled by pirates.

The president had the pirates shot and killed, just like conservatives demanded.

The very next thing out of the conservatives' mouths was, "The president killed a teenager!"

How sad is it that, when the president agrees with a conservative, the conservative immediately switches their opinion.

How many "I'm for it until Obama is then I'm against it." moments have we had?

Here's a few...

Dream Act, healthcare mandate, bail out, Olympic bid, Planned Parenthood.

I bet if the president said he was against abortion, every conservative in the country would scream about the president taking away the right to choose.

Bosslimo -

Perhaps if Obama had been able to make a decision without worrying about polls and what they would say...

Tammy, do you mean like when PBO came out for same sex marriage in this time of right wing extremists going nuts on social agendas. If you pull your cranium out of Faux Nooze's rectum and got some fresh air you would not make the baseless arguments that fall like drool from your mouth. Just Saying!

Tammy-311614

What does that have to do with my post?

The best you got on that was the president's indecisiveness?

Well please, since you opened the door, what decisions did he make that were so poll oriented?

Romney would just be a puppet for the Mega Rich, the big problem if he's elected would be the sick teaReTards !

3^rd Party,

Sure … that is why the Dems want funds to train/retrain displaced workers and the Republicans won’t fund these programs.

Yep, the Republicans want to teach them … not.

Goverment run and lead education? OK That's still feed them fish pal.

I'm from the government and I am here to help. (RUN FROM THIS )

The version I got was Dems want to BORROW money from China to pay for this program and reps said no let's cut spending to pay for it.

Don't you wish you had an unlimited credit card to act like the government?

3^rd Party,

It is not Government training, it is subsisted training done by the private sector.

So in your mind training someone a new trade so they can find work is not the same as teaching them to fish.

Romney said “Any spending cuts should come down the road, after the economy has improved.” "Well because, if you take a trillion dollars for instance, out of the first year of the federal budget, that would shrink GDP over 5 percent.” So I'm not going to do that.

China only holds 12% of our National debt. Our unions hold more of our National debt than any foreign country.

"Both parties are full of God fearing good Americans" he said. "The difference is a democrats want to feed all poor men a fish a day. The republicans want to teach poor men how to fish."

3rd party - I think its the other way around. Don't you mean that the Repub's want to feed us bull@!$%# every day?

Obama/Biden 2012

Dennis,

How are you this fine Saturday, fine I hope. As for your post at 9.1, about democrats wanting money for job training programs. According to a GAO report there are currently 47 job training programs through 9 different agencies, and 18 Billion dollars being spent. According to Politifact quoting GAO Report, "little is know about the effectiveness of Employment & training programs because only 5 reported conducting an impact study and about half of all remaining programs have not had a performance review of any kind".

Before throwing more money into job training programs, don't you think we would be better served to consolidate programs, cut spending on overhead who are suppose to be running these programs and audit to see if Federal Job Training programs are really working and taxpayer money is being spent wisely. You know I keep harping on the requirement to review federal agencies and to consolidate and cut waste and fraud. In stead Congress and the WH (post parties) just keep asking for more money for more programs.

Hi Sarge,

It's hard to disagree with commonsense but we are talking about the Government that is run by two dysfunctional Parties.

How I see your proposal progressing:

1) The House will establish a commission to study the programs and make recommendations and will be funded with $10 million.

2) The Senate will establish a commission to study the programs and make recommendations and will be funded with $10 million.

3) They will establish a joint body to evaluate the findings and review the recommendations. Then they will each write their own bill.

4) The Congress session will end and a new Congress will start all over or they will just let it die like most other studies.

Anyhow my point to 3^rd Party was only that training/retraining has a place and is not always a waste of time, effort or money.

The Dems have turned the social safety net into a squishy king size mattress. How's that 50-year war on poverty working out?

Hows that 80 year old war on drugs working @ john ?

Romney throws Vets under the bus for his 1% buddies !

It took us ten years to dig out from under Jimmy Carter and a lot of new republicans were born.

Rinse and repeat times 100. And guess what? Most people will say Obama who? In about 30 years another song and dance canidate will waltz on stage, women will faint and history will repeat itself.

Again.

Seems that we need such a catharsis every 25 years or so just to remind us that Marxist soocialism doesn't work - never has and never will.

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Thomas Jefferson

Teach your kids and grandkids history because government run schools won't. Just ask any grad this year simple history questions and get floored.

looks like the trolls have nothing else to do this Memorial weekend.

Just like you tonybeeerm obviously.

and you too, reb.

I am not a troll unlike somebody.

It seems to me that we are trying to dig ourselves out of the mes brought upon us by a GOP Pres. In the process we are being obstructed from moving forward by a GOP Congress. That being said the Dow Jones up, Nasdaq up, 4 million plus jobs created and you GOPers would like to change that. Sounds to me like the GOP would love for this nation to fail. That is a sad state of affairs. Just Saying!

Watermoon
Seems that we need such a catharsis every 25 years or so just to remind us that Marxist soocialism doesn't work - never has and never will.

"...and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They [socialists] always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them."

- Margaret Thatcher

Can we afford 4 more years of this? Will we be better off in 4 more years? Are we better off than we were 4 years ago?

Why do repubs like to quote people that we KNOW suffered from Alzheimers/dementia ? Raygun and Thatcher ? Yep lets hold up the only 2 For Sure Elected leaders known to suffer from mental illness . This somehow makes then Infallible ???? I have no doubt that others had the same probs , But hells bells , you want to make your platform from them ?

Romney the flip flop flopper thinks Memorial day is the start of summer barbecue season !

It is political, the vast majority of officers and the enlisted.. Especially Combat troops are Southern or Midwestern White Republicans...

Minorities don't get into Front Line Combat units..

Minorities don't get into Front Line Combat units..

thomasweirdo - That's about the most ignorant thing i've heard in quite awhile. Where in hell did you get this from?

So Anita, you are saying that the Naval Academy is the lucky one this year. They might just get a speaker that is worth a "tinker's dam."

Has Thomasweirdo ever heard of Colin Powell? Liberals tell whatever lie is convenient. In another post he will tell us how Republicans cause the minorities to be on the front lines while the white conservative soldiers are safe in the back. End justifies the means - explains all need to know about liberals.

What makes you think Thomaswardoo is a liberal?

Bin Ladin was a Conservative !

But now Obama has arranged for them and so many other troops to be home from the foreign wars and they will be able to vote this time. The past three elections liberal states sent the ballots over there with no time for them to be returned and counted. This electcion will include the warriors these hypocrites praise while treating them as non-citizens.

Yep. liberal states like Alabama, Wisc., South Dakota. Illinois sent 2,800 of them out late. I'm sure they picked the conservative military voters to not send ballots.

Although our military ALL deserve to get their ballots on time, this is another wingnut imaginary threat like widespread voter fraud.

Let me Guess , You think Ron Paul has the support of Everyone in the Military as well ? Hows that Super Secret RP delegate count working ?

Courtesy of Romney & GOP TeaBaggers, the 1% is getting Richer. Mitt said it looks like that trickle down is working !

okay, why don't you tell us those non-truths. Be specific, don't spare any details either.

But Biden doesn't realize he is lying. He reminds me so much of Dan Quayle. Do you suppose the rumors are true that Obama might dump him this election and go with Hillary?

Tonybeerm

Just go to Google and ask "Obama lies" and there are so many that pop up.

Here's a good one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UErR7i2onW0

And Willard Romney spoke at which military academy? Comments by Colin Powell seem to support Obama's foreign policy. As a General and former Secretary of State he knows what he is talking about.

Just go to Google and ask "Obama lies" and there are so many that pop up.

Golly, Billy bob goober, doesn't mean they're true, now does it? Maybe in FUXland, but not in the real world. And besides, you're not pittman. None of you right wing bozos ever answer a direct question, do you? Is that because you have no answer? the pittsmn, you're a chickensh-t and an idiot to boot.

the majority of graduates do their 5 year active commitment then leave the army for civilian life. It is no secret that the military will need to trim down beginning with the Afghan wind down, so yeah, people are going to get riffed. The same thing happened in the early 90's. Those that make it 20 years will get their retirement - tell me, where did you hear they are going to cut that?

Not to mention NO JOBS.

Audrey,

I retired after 20 years and we (retirees) lose some type of benefits almost every year. You know that this White House wants to end tri-care as we know it. They want the retirees on Obama care. I have that link if you want it, but you can also Google it. When I first came in, I was told my health care would be free for 20 years of service. I honestly don't mind paying what I'm paying now, but for this White House threaten to veto what Congress passes by not touching our health benefits it wrong. I don't want Obama care and I hope the SCOTUS rules that it's garbage.

As for retirement, Congress wants to make retirement a 401K type retirement. If you retire at 20yrs, you won't see your retirement until you're 65. So basically when an officer retires at around 45 or so, they have 20yrs that they won't see their retirement and at 45 have to start over on looking for employment without their retirement to help them through.

Obama was busy at a womens college insulting them by saying he's there for them and will protect them from themselves and provide for the safety of their vaginas' rights.

Meanwhile back at the treasury his tax cheat pal finds more ways to steal these womens' childrens future.

DCDevo - the gaffes WERE not there. And, you are wrong - the President is NOT playing today.

It is not the President's decision to make as to who will address each group. As someone said earlier, it is on a rotating basis each year. It is not a show of disrespect for this President NOT to be addressing either group. It is tradition and is set by the schools.

Did you down Bush each year he didn't address both?

3rdpartyadvocate - you do NOT want to go there you blithering idiot. The Democrats have stood up for women even as the GOP has taken every chance to tear us down. You are either clueless or hate women - or both!

DC: I can't respond specifically to your points as I simply don't know. I do know this however, President Obama along with the First Lady and the Bidens have gone out of their way to lend support to America's veterans.

I don't presume to know your politics but I am so tired of the Right wrapping themselves up in the flag and acting as if Conservatives and only Conservatives support and fight for their country. This has been a common theme starting in the postt WWII era. Oddly, it this same crowd in the 1930s that didn't want to spend $100 to arm a rowboat with a machine gun and were more than happy to sell Britain down the river in their time of need.

I don't have the time to list them all here but if you look at our Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, I can promise you that it is actually Democrats who have served our military with distinction. The Right is awfully good at talking tough but the reality is that way too many of them are just Chicken Hawks like Dick Cheney and George Bush.

That why we have vets having their home foreclosed while overseas. Having military families on food stamps while fighting for your country is a disgrace.

The Dems and other politicians would rather throw money at illegals in hopes of getting their votes if they can do without photo ID's. At the same time Gore and Dems. did everything in their power to stop the military from casting their votes. Obama has the same line of thought so forget about Biden and his pride in the USA military.

Here is what presidebt obama is doing today this took 30 seconds to find.

9:30 am President Obama and Vice President Biden get the Presidential Daily Briefing in the Oval Office.

10:00 am President Obama gives a speech at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building about his plan to reform a broken system of contracting to cut back on wasteful spending, and save the American people tens of billions of dollars.

10:45 am President Obama and Vice President Biden get the Economic Daily Briefing.

11:15 am President Obama meets with senior advisors in the Oval Office.

11:30 am Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano join Press Secretary Robert Gibbs in a press briefing to discuss their efforts to cut costs, root out waste, and make government more efficient and effective.

7:30 pm President Obama and Michelle Obama host a dinner with the Congressional Committee Chairs in the East Room of the White House, with President Obama giving a speech

OOOPs no golf lol.

Ted Patrick.......That is not the President's schedule for today. Not sure sure where you got it, but it is not factual at least not for today, May 26th 2012. There is no public schedule set for today.

11:30 am Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano join Press Secretary Robert Gibbs in a press briefing to discuss their efforts to cut costs, root out waste, and make government more efficient and effective.

Robert Gibbs is no longer Press Secretary, he left that position in January 2011, he was succeeded by Jay Carney.

Ooops! go peddled your lies over at Fox entertainment and stop trying to undermine your President. You should be ashamed, but I know you wont your kind rely on ignorance and hatred to spread your message.

LOL, Gingerbread, you just attacked on of your own!!! Libs are funny.......

Ted Patrick...Robert Gibbs has not been WH Press Sec. for more than a year.

That was indeed funny. So little comprehension that she didn't even realize what side of the coin her 'enemy' was standing on. Comical for sure.

I agree 100% gingerbread momma!!! The libitards are out of control morons.

A liberal correcting a liberal with facts. Imagine that. Happens all the time.

Can you imagine a conservative being corrected by anybody? I can't! They're so tightly wrapped in the flag they can't hear anything but themselves hollering louder than anyone else who may have an opinion or facts to share.

Randy - as it is clear you've never qualified for a commission that's a moot point. Your hatred of everything not stupidly Republican says a lot about you - none of it good. Why don't you slither back under the rock you came out from?

RANDY: Yea, it's too bad that a mindless boob like Dubya would have been there to address them.

Or what about Field Marshall, Baron Von Cheney and his famous battle cry "We'll be greeted as liberators". Or perhaps Mission Accomplished, or "Your with us or your with the terrorists", or "Bring it on"???

I would rather resign my commission than listen to this fukking idiot!

No resignation necessary, you would never have been accepted to the Academy touting the disdain you hold towards the office of the Commander in Chief.

No resignation necessary, you would never have been accepted to the Academy touting the disdain you hold towards the office of the Commander in Chief.

ain't that the truth. Guys like that we don't need stinking up our military.

Yea, I would rather be a coward like this snivelling piece of crap heading the WH, and his mindless boob that serves as his VP!

He is a clown. I hope Barry actually quit smoking because we are really in trouble if he croaks.

So Randy admits to being a coward? You must have been looking in the mirror when you made the 'sniveling' comment. And you forgot to call yourself whiny and disrepectful too.

Good god, I am starting to think I am becoming a liberal. as all of these emotions are standard for the worthless human garbage like occuturds and democraps!

Do you know how many billionaires are Chinese and Russian? I thought communism abhored billionaires.

Forest fires? Tropical storms? What else can a lame repub idiot blame on the POTUS?

Jeff D-3771612

You better straighten out your leader Mitt.

China isn't the enemy, Russia is. And you're supposed to be promoting nuclear war in Iran so the oil will travel freely through their water ways.

Did you misread the daily talking points from Limbaugh?

You better step in line or be forced to follow Colin Powell out the back door of the GOP. Go grab your propaganda pamphlet and read up. Make sure its current because it changes every three hours now that Mitt has sped it up.

I'd hate to see another person change their status from conservative to independent. The big tent is turning into a sheet.

Why would he want you? He wants that 911 generation because they'll be around a lot longer than you. What an empty threat. As if you're important.

Cozy Trash -- how many 11 year olds are in the workforce?

Did you forget that the Teabaggers haven't taken over yet.

Or do you just mean to insult the West Point graduates?

What a big @!$%#in' patriot you are!

Be sure to scroll down on that site above tony. It should answer all your questions as there are six or seven different youtubes of Obama speaking. Hear him in his own words.

cozytrash - I'm sure your hate gene was set in motion long ago. Just took the 2008 election to trigger it.

watermoon - if you think Obama lies, then you're gonna love Mitt Romney. There's the real king of flip-flop. btw, all politicians lie. They have to. With all of the sh-t they have to deal with, it's impossible not to get the wires crossed. It's the ones that hurt people that are unacceptable and are remembered. On a scale of 1 to 10, Obama's about a 3. Bush, on the other hand, pegged the needle.

Who's a hater?

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man." –Joe Biden, referring to Barack Obama at the beginning of the 2008 Democratic primary campaign, Jan. 31, 2007

Doesn't sound like a hater to me?

Are you hearing this as if it were said by Darth Vader? That would be Darth Cheney/

The Teabaggers are so focused on tearing America apart, that they can't even be respectful of Memorial Day.

Just to back up your assertion Adler. Check this out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_AAMa_X2dM&feature=related

snopes.com said the following is true:

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a Sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. ...Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that 'the buck stops here'. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and Grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."

SENATOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, MARCH 2006

The above quote consists of two excerpts from a long speech delivered by Barack Obama during a Senate debate over raising the national debt limit on March 16, 2006. Along with his entire party, Senator Obama voted against the increase, which passed nonetheless with overwhelming Republican support.

Obama says he regrets having taken that stand. "He realizes now," explained White House spokesman Jay Carney in a statement to the press on April 11, 2011, "that raising the debt ceiling is so important to the health of this economy and the global economy that it is not a vote that, even when you are protesting an administration's policies, you can play around with."

Your right about one thing, Mr. President.....the country deserves better but we certainly did not get it with you, President Flip-Flopper

Now you might notice that the Republicans back in 2006 supported increasing the debt limit whereas they oppose it now. So what is going on.........? The answer is that both parties work exactly the same----oppose anything the other party wants. So dems get off your high horse and look at your own droppings as well

Notice that the White House said:

"...that raising the debt ceiling is so important to the health of this economy and the global economy that it is not a vote that, even when you are protesting an administration's policies, you can play around with."

WHAT......are they saying that by not voting for the debt increase in 2006 that they did not care a damn about the US and World economy. Of course they are which means they are not any damn better than the republicans by a long shot.

So get your head out of the proverbial dark spot and see the reality of politics.

DC: And if so, who is he playing golf with??? Do you know for a fact it has nothing to do with the holiday and lastly, even if it didn't, you begrudge the C in C some R & R? As I recall, Dubya took more vation days than any other president, with the possible exception of The Gipper, who napped for half of his term.

But, but Bush did it!!! by the way Ozzie, you're facts are wrong.

No. They're not wrong.

JACK: Uh, that about sums it up. Beer swilling yahoos, who are xenophobic to an extreme.

I know you are, but what are we?

Jack, does getting a BS at the University of San Francisco amke me uneducated? Maybe, maybe not.

Also, I cannot stand FOX news. FOX is as biased and stupid as all the other news outlets; ABC, NBC, CNN, MCNBC, etc, etc. and that is why I get me news from Germany.

To really set you off....Obama and Biden are a pair of morons and bush wasn't a whole lot better.

I am a Tea Party member and hope to bring down the existing government to start over with new people in D. C.

I am a Tea Party member and hope to bring down the existing government to start over with new people in D. C.

You sound like a member of the Nazi Party. I suggest you move somewhere else.

By only being able to blame Fox News all the time, are you admitting that the other news networks are liberal douchebags who cater to the left? Seems strange that you constantly pinpoint only one network.

Perhaps the others are more centered. I believe MSNBC is the only one as left as FOX is right.

However, FOX has the least informed viewers.

Call it another Fox News fail. People who are not exposed to any news know more
about domestic and international affairs than those who get their information
from Fox News, according to a phone poll conducted by Fairleigh Dickinson
University.

In general, cable news viewers, including those who watched MSNBC and CNN, could
correctly answer fewer questions about domestic and international events than
those who got their news elsewhere—including Comedy Central.

Overall, the survey found that Fox was the least
informative news outlet, while NPR and Sunday morning political talk shows were
the most. http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/survey_says_fox_news_viewers_least_informed_20120523/

Hope that clarifies it for you.

Sounds like another survey for Politifact to debunk.

So we have three Pew studies that superficially rank Fox viewers low on the well-informed list, but in several of the surveys, Fox isn't the lowest, and other general-interest media outlets -- such as network news shows, network morning shows and even the other cable news networks -- often score similarly low. Meanwhile, particular Fox shows -- such as The O'Reilly Factor and Sean Hannity's show -- actually score consistently well, occasionally even outpacing Stewart's own audience.

Meanwhile, the other set of knowledge surveys, from worldpublicopinion.org, offer mixed support for Stewart. The 2003 survey strikes us as pretty solid, but the 2010 survey has been critiqued for its methodology.

The way Stewart phrased the comment, it's not enough to show a sliver of evidence that Fox News' audience is ill-informed. The evidence needs to support the view that the data shows they are "consistently" misinformed -- a term he used not once but three times. It's simply not true that "every poll" shows that result. So we rate his claim False.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/20/jon-stewart/jon-stewart-says-those-who-watch-fox-news-are-most/