Do you really think that handing the Senate to the Republicans would shake things up much? You need 60 seats in order to make a majority in the Senate and all the Republicans are hoping for is 51? Over the past several generations there has been a back and forth swing between both ideologies; It's a wonder that anything got done at all. Handing the Republicans the Senate would only encourage the gridlock system that we have had for decades. If you want a budget passed, you aren't going to find it in gridlock. Our founding fathers wanted the federal government to be gridlocked, but not to such an extent that passing a simple budget couldn't even get through. This is why we have such a debt problem and it is NOT going to go away in the shear hopes of obtaining 51 seats. Our problems rest on BOTH parties and the corporate strings that are controlling their voting patterns.

fisher--

You are merely mouthing talking points that bear no resemblance to the true facts. Mitch McConnell is the culprit for not getting anything done because of his insistence on demanding 60 votes to pass anything rather than a simple majority that is generally done in the House.

The Budget Control Act of 2011, passed by both houses and signed by President Obama, is in fact a bonafide budget. It's the Republicans who want go back on their passed law by giving more money to the military than what the military requested.

Mouthing talking points marks you as a person who has nothing valid to say.

Long way until the election, lots can happen! Another "summer of recovery" for America to endure!

fisher 42

Guess you have been in a cave.......the GOP with 43 in the Senate believe and have acted like they are the "majority"!

Reality will set in even if the GOP gets 51.....unless you have 60 firm votes - you will always still be in the "minority" in the senate!

And...Joe Biden should be the leader in the senate but he has nothing but blame to the republican minority....Great Leadership! Throw them all out!

"Giving money and power to politicians is like giving liquor and car keys to teenagers." ---P.J. O'Rourke

and i hope they will get rid of the 60 vote rule and get down to governing by majority and let the chips fall where they may.

and then have the guts to throw all monies out of politics.

d bill2 Which hand are you hoping in???

I wish some libby could tell me why they think the republicans are responsible for everything that went wrong under the Bush administration when the republicans didn't have near the majority that the dems had the first two years of the Obama administration. You always claim that the repubs are stopping everything. Where the hell were the dems when all that terrible stuff was going on in prior years? Did they run and hide like a good dem? Or are they just as responsible for the problems? Why didn't they stop the things that they thought were soooo bad?

Both parties got us where we are today and this current administration doesn't have a clue how to move us forward. The only moving forward that has been done has happened in the last two years and the major change was the repubs taking control of the House of Representatives.

Reid has absolutely no control over any senate bill having a small Majority.The Senate minority leader is just as responsible for the grid lock as anyone and even stated that his sole purpose was to make Obama a one term president. In other words Jobs, social security, medicare and other important issues don't matter. If the house is an example of what a Republican majority would do I would be sceptical of any positive results.

Until we get rid of this corrupt 2 party system, impose term limits and take the money out of politics nothing will change. So if you are hoping that things will get better if the Republicans gain control guess again. They are just as responsible if not more so than the Democrats for our problems.As it stands right now we have a choice between "The party of no brains" and "the party of no soul."

Wow, a NBC poll that is slanted towards democrats. What a shocker. (For those on the left who are too stupid to understand, that was sarcasm)

CWalker-1378714 "Do you really think that handing the Senate to the Republicans would shake things up much? You need 60 seats in order to make a majority in the Senate and all the Republicans are hoping for is 51?"

Perhaps, but with a Republican Senate leader, at least we'll get some debate and amendments on the 30 or so jobs bills passed by the House that Reid refuses to even bring to the floor for consideration.

Also, perhaps they can actually perform their constitutional duty and PASS A BUDGET - something Reid has not done for over 3 years - two of them when the Democrats controlled everything - House, Senate and Presidency.

Reid is almost as big a FAILURE as Obama.

Fisher,

And the McConnell led Senate Republicans, who have fillibustered every single proposed bill, and not let them out of committe to discuss, not pass, but just discuss and improve, have helped govern how?

What ever happened to majority rules? When did that cease to be a cornerstone of our democracy?

The dems are ahead in only 3 senate races! I thought the dems were supposed to take back everything they lost in 2010. I thought the TEA Party was one and done, at least according to the libs that post here. Looks like another major democrat ass kicking this November.

Roy those 30 so called jobs bills you mention are not jobs bills.

smoke and mirrors is all the GOP has.

Hi CWalker,

You might want to read the Senate rules. While I agree with your general claim that we can expect more gridlock (which is not often a bad thing) in the Senate, really regardless of which party gains 51 seats, the fact is that a simple majority, not a supermajority, is all that is required to produce a budget. See, it's not subject to the 60 vote minimum for cloture since it is not filibusterable.

Your implication is that because Republicans won't give Democrats what they want that Republicans also won't allow a budget to pass by agreeing to cloture is simply false--cloture is NOT needed. Democrats have refused to bring a budget up for consideration because of the political consequences of allowing voters to see, specifically, what their priorities are. Why would anyone want to reward Reid and the other Senate Democrats for being unwilling to say straight up what they want, what they stand for?

TO: fisher42 who wrote:

"The Senate, under Reid has continued to fail to do its job, most obvious failing to pass a budget. I really hope there will be a turnover to get rid of Reid."

I am praying that voters get rid of those complaining Republicans who have done absolutely NOTHING to get our economy moving again, and absolutely NOTHING to earn their paychecks!

The congressional approval rating is at 8% and STILL Republicans just don't get the message!

Read the headline Republicans, you're OUT!

Obama/Biden 2012

TO: alwayzright who wrote:

"...Joe Biden should be the leader in the senate but he has nothing but blame to the republican minority..."

Republicans always love to pick the dumbest rock they can find to send to Washington for the specific purpose of causing "gridlock".

If Republicans are so desperate for leadership as you seem to think they are, then tell them that they ought to just do whatever President Obama tells them to do if they can't think for themselves, and everything will be fine.

And don't blame Joe Biden if he can't get through to the knuckleheads Republicans sent up there. We see Republcians right here everyday that have all sorts of memory problems, and who are incapable of putting 2 and 2 together. Obviously, Republicans sent a few of them up to Capital Hill.

Obama/Biden 2012

While I agree with your general claim that we can expect more gridlock (which is not often a bad thing) in the Senate......

I thought we would get down to it sooner or later....not only do the republicons want the economy to tank, they also think that gridlock is a good thing, a good thing that bills aren't being passed !!!!

ROY WILSON-336103

CWalker-1378714 "Do you really think that handing the Senate to the Republicans would shake things up much? You need 60 seats in order to make a majority in the Senate and all the Republicans are hoping for is 51?"

Perhaps, but with a Republican Senate leader, at least we'll get some debate and amendments on the 30 or so jobs bills passed by the House that Reid refuses to even bring to the floor for consideration.

Also, perhaps they can actually perform their constitutional duty and PASS A BUDGET - something Reid has not done for over 3 years - two of them when the Democrats controlled everything - House, Senate and Presidency.

Reid is almost as big a FAILURE as Obama.

There you go Roy showing your ignorance again...

"You need 60 seats in order to make a majority in the Senate and all the Republicans are hoping for is 51?"

Im glad you know how our government works, many teabaggers and Republicans on here have no idea....

But then at the end of your post you claim the democrats controlled everything for two years.

Show us a full list of the 60 Senators the democrats had for the full two years???

They only had 60 Senators for one session and that lasted about a month. Not for two full years.

Roy,

Please show or link to a site that shows these "30 jobs bills" you keep talking about. It wouldn't be these would it?

http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/gops-claim-house-passed-30-jobs-bills-bogus

American...

Joe Biden could not "get through" to a roomful of third-graders.

Keep praying American "Girl". The tea party was never going to amount to anything anyways....woops, how did 2010 come out for the libs. Get rid of Oboma, Reid and Pelosi in 2012.

Bah humbug... If the Senate fails for not getting anything done, then so does the House... They're both parties at the table; and if they're too busy squabling with each other to accomplish anything, then BOTH PARTIES, not just the other party are at fault. As the old saying goes, it takes two to tango... That somethng would pass in one chamber, and fail in the oher, if things get played along partisan lines, doesn't make one side guilty of getting nothing done, and the other somehow "above it all"....

Boehner and his House would have no less a part in this then the Senate under Reid. But then again, I'd be all forth BOTH parties losing their respective majorities, lest either of them is left with the impression they've been sent a "mandate" on matters the voters weren't even voting for.

I guess Fisher is fuming at the House representatives and all their fillibusters, huh?

Handing the Senate to republicans won't solve anything if Obama wins the election. You can expect 4 more years of obstruction and setbacks from republicans because making Obama fail is more important than making the country succeed.

Democrats need to get out the vote, fire up those new voters from 2008, and recruit those added to the voter age since then.

This country has not fully recovered from the last republican rein. Lets get it fixed before we give it back to them to ruin... again.

I'm not ready to sing "Hail to the Chief Executive Officer" yet.

Boss...

That's a huge stretch...you're assuming having checks and balances on Mr. Obama is preventing the country from succeeding.

So to help Mr. Obama "succeed" with whatever he wishes to do, your idea is for the Democrat Party to sink a hook into every ill informed and uninterested voter they can drag out of the woodwork so they can cast lemming-like votes for whomever you want them to vote for...just like in 2008.

I don't want either party to have the majority. I want them to be a REPRESENTative of their constituents, not a party agenda.

From an independant viewpoint, the biggest culprits in this are the Democrats the last few years. Even with supermajority for a few months they didn't pass a budget and persisted on pushing through agenda related items all while not even inviting representatives of citizens. I'd be mad at the Republicans if they did the same, but it wasn't the Republicans this time, it was Pelosi, Reid, and Obama.

I'm back on the 'vote out the existing politicians' train. Nothing would make me happier than a 50% split where they have to work for the people rather than specialty groups on laws passed.

dogs::: And the republithugs are going to help us? HOW? Oh that's right-- keep a woman barefoot and pregnant and with LIMITED health coverage. Then the women will die at a young age and the country will go back to the OLD MEN'S CLUB. Women will be property, won't be allowed to vote. Glad we have Democrats with common sense trying to run the country-- now they have to take back our country and put the republithugs to sucking their thumbs (which is their mentality).

tony, the difference is, President Obama wants ALL Americans to 'succeed,' not just the 'few' like the GOP and Romney does. Aren't the 'birthers' ill informed, and having their 'beliefs' flamed by GOP leaders in states saying publicly that President Obama isn't American? Those same 'leaders' who then say they 'didn't mean to sound that way, and 'IF' what they said caused mixed feelings they regretted saying them, but still believe in their hearts Obama isn't American?' The wonderment of today's electronic age is, that whatever you say is instantly caught, showing the REAL view of the person, not the curtain covering up their feelings. Veiled racism is still racism, no matter how you sugarcoat it, just watch Hannity, O'Reilly and Beck Youtube segments of their shows on how to skirt around the issue, but still call it out. The thing is, those same Republican voter 'lemmings' will cut off their own feet as far as any social issue goes, just because their GOP Reich-wing "gods' put a Liberal/Progressive/Moderate tag on everything, and told them that it's 'bad' for them. In the end even their voters will lose and have amnesia over what happened and go through the cycle again. Talk about a sadomasochistic passive-aggressive bunch.

Fantom...

If the president wants "all Americans to succeed" then what is his plan to make that happen. Three and a half years in office...what's the plan ? He has spent the last year bloviating about the 'Buffet Rule" and some subjective thing he calls a "fair share"...in between campaign trips. What's the plan ???

His last big plan...the 'stimulus' was no more than a major boon to state and local government spending. In my state, two thirds of the 'stimulus' dollars received went to municipal school systems. In the newspaper today was an article that says the state program for electronically monitoring domestic violence cases is in jeopardy because the money that has been used to pay for that system was formerly funded by federal 'stimulus' dollars. What happened to all those "shovel ready projects" the president promised ???

Oh...now I remember...last year at a panel discussion the president stated that "those shovel ready projects weren't as shovel ready as we had thought". Ooops. That was that so-called "plan". What's the new plan ???

Veiled racism is still racism, no matter how you sugarcoat it, just watch Hannity, O'Reilly and Beck Youtube segments of their shows on how to skirt around the issue, but still call it out.

Fant....., perhaps if you actually watched these shows instead of "Youtube segments" you would see for yourself there isn't a racist bone in any one of the 3 of these guys. Anyone can take statements out of context and craft them to convey whatever propaganda message you're trying to make. Far and away the most overt and covert racism I see is exhibited by the left, hands down.

The reason Senate Democrats haven't presented a budget bill is because they don't have to.

Money bills have to originate in the House of Representatives, and then the Senate can modify them, should it wish to do so. Because the House (Republican controlled) has passed a Budget Bill which the majority in the Senate finds totally repugnant doesn't change this fact.

The Senate could then amend the Budget Bill to it's liking (i.e. more to the Democrats liking), but because of the super-majority situation in the Senate (it takes 60 votes to move legislation to even be considered) the Budget stalls in the Senate. The Republicans, who have 47 seats in the Senate can "filibuster" the motion to move to debate the legislation or the amendments that the Democrats have proposed.

how could anyone watch an entire Beck show without going crazy?

oh,....woops.....never mind

IBM

You should learn how Government works. The House passes a Bill. The Senate puts it into Committee and discusses it. Then the Senate proposes their OWN version of the Bill and passes it. It then goes to a Joint Committee where the differences are hashed out. That COMPROMISE is then sent back to the House and Senate to be voted on. Now the House has passed a Budget for the last 3 years. The Senate hasn't proposed a Budget in 3 years. without a SENATE Budget proposal the Budget process STOPS!

Nuadormrac -- The GOPee Wee Herman "I know you are, but what am I" argument again? Ha, did you see the photoshop pic of Romney as Pee Wee Herman? Very befitting.

slodon -- Does it go into "committee," and just how and when, or is this spin Boehner used once to CYA?

JH,

The simple difference is that Democrats recognized that when a president is elected it is their job to find common ground for compromise and not to plunge the nation into Congress. When the Democrats filibustered 10 of 229 judicial nominees bill Frist threatened to have Cheyney change Senate rules by caveat and order a vote this has never been done in history and may be unconstitutional. No significant legislation was filibustered and all 8 Bush Budgets were passed as well as his tax cuts which almost no Democrats wanted. This is what has been one throughout US history. The GOP has used the filibuster unlike any other 30% of the filibusters in its 90 year history have been invoked in the last 3 years by Republicans.

The GOP also has increased judicial and staffing holds by over 100% from any previous Administration. The goal is to make Obama a one term president regardless of what is done to good governance and the welfare of millions of citizens.

jkh

Chicago, Better then watching fox

So Prez O was "forced" to cut a deal with the powerful health insurance industry. Does ANYONE KNOW what the ceo of United HealthCare took Home for 2008 Salary? Hold onto your hats: $128,000,000 *C A S H* WHILE, Mind You, their paid policyHolders were denied and DIED. The fact that America HAS NO Universal HealthCare System like the other countries, which take care of their citizens, instead of fattening the wallets of the EVIL Rich and paying for THEIR Unending Wars, IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE... Yeah, A lot of US are mad at Prez O, he let the $4.00+Gas and oil go by without a nod. AND that shaking hands with karzai of afghan after what he said????? "thanks sucker taxpayers..." NONEtheless has anybody got an idea what republicanCrimeCartelSoldierRommel will do to US and ANY economic progress made?? He will GUT US LIKE A FLAPPIN' FISH ON THE DOCK.....You're gonna' see Unemployment up to 30% and NO Social Security..Gotta Pay for New Wars And NO MEDICAL CARE AND "healthcare" policies cost SKYROCKET out of control. Don't fall for the republicanCrimeCartelPropaganda and just say NO!!! to MittTaxPittanceRommel.

Here's the rundown on Mitt Romney's devastating record as CEO of Bain Capital, a tenure marked by bankruptcies, bailouts, and mass layoffs — all while Romney and his partners raked in Billions of Dollars in profits for the firm and Romney himself amassed a Quarter-Billion Dollar Fortune.
Romney's Bain Capital Caused Mass Layoffs, Sent Jobs Overseas
Thousands of Americans were laid off by Bain Capital at companies it purchased, managed, and, at least a quarter of the time, drove into bankruptcy, ruining Lives, Destroying Careers and Families including Many Many Suicides While stuffing his pockets, Keeping his Darling son OUT of service to his country with the line "My son is Fulfilling his Patriotic Duty by helping me get elected"...Got that one?? and, Of Course, installing the InHouse car elevator for his "darling little boy's $180,000Ferrari....Listen Up People...This guy IS Count Dracula In carnate

JKH,

That would be because we haven't had a Marxist/socialist who's ignoring the constitution and trying to change our country into an EU socialist stae before. This out of control bozo has to be stopped or we won't still have the US as founded after he's done. Bozobamacare and the stimulus debacles, not to mention NO BUDGET for the last three years shoukl tell you why we need the filibuster - to stop a dictator-wannabe from destroying our liberties and our republic as founded.

So... let me get this straight- You're saying it's the Republicans that are blocking all the budgets?? you mean the Republican led House passes budgets that are debated in the House, passed & sent to the Senate only to have them die because of the Senate Republicans??!! How does THAT work? You, of course, are joking, right??

The reality here is that the House passes budget after budget (see Ryan plans of 2010 & 11), sends them to the Senate for debate and they sit quietly in the desk of Harry Reid- not to be shown the light of day for debate. But they ARE to be used as weapons against the very party who created them. While the Dems REFUSE to come up with anything that LOOKS like a budget going on 4 years! The Liberals do not WANT Americans to know what they are spending because it would curb said spending and close the open check book the Dems have been using...

Yeah, it's the Republicans alright... uh, huh... (sarc)

Look for truth,

There has never been any such thing in US history as passing a budget not presented by the oval office. The budget process in the US since 1921 has been for the president to submit a budget through the CBO to Congress the CBO analyzes the cost proposals and verify's the revenue needed to support it. The House and Senate Budget Committee's take the budget request and accept budget requests from other committees The budget committees each submit a budget resolution based on the requests from the president and Congressional committees. The process of budget reconciliation is then begun. There has never been any such thing in US history of the House passing a budget created by anyone other than the chief executive. The republican party as currently constituted is attempting alter US history and governance. The presidential election has always been seen as a referendum on the economy and the party out of power has always accepted economic direction from the oval office. There has never been a time other than the Gingrich and Boehner Houses where they attempted to usurp budgetary responsibility. Multiple budget act's do not allow for the passage of a budget created solely by one party in the House, this is a budget totally outside of either the White House or the House minority and was passed without a single amendment or opposition consideration. This has been done 100% outside of the budgetary process using fairy tale accounting and is never given a full accounting by the CBO because it lacks sufficient numbers for an audit. The Ryan budet for running the US is 25 pages long and would fail as a business school term paper on presenting a budget for a mid sized company. Revenue numbers are non existent or entirely fabricated with broad estimates based on assumptions which have never held true. Mostly that an ocean of jobs will be created keeping revenue at 19% of GDP an assumption with no basis in fact. He further plans to repeal healthcare reform which the CBO says provides a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit saving his fanciful calculations never remove the savings from projections and assume that the American people will allow Social Security and Medicare to be dismantled.

jkh

Obama leads in Democrat skewed "polls".... sleep well and ignorantly sheep, courtesy of MSNBC.

Polled voters by percentage:
Florida
Democrat 43
Republican 35

Virginia
Democrat 31
Republican 29

Ohio
Democrat 37
Republican 28

It's all part of their game. People are like sheep and they will herd anywhere. It is my belief that the voting American public are stupid and will continue to be swayed by trivial issues and vote against their own interests. He will blame Obama because he has nothing else to attack him with, even though Obama signed waivers to states that didn't quite meet the standards of Bush's NCLB. People suffer from a political amnesia and seem to forget what happened in the past and how it affects them today or in the future. There is also a team bias in which they can't blame their guy because he did a great job ... Just look at how conservatives tried to spin the Bin Laden death... they wanted to give Bush the credit? I agree with your statement on the lack of values Republicans tend to have [the candidates, not the voters... The voters are just mislead and used as pawns]. This is NOT the party of Lincoln, Roosevelt, or Barry Goldwater anymore. It is now a cult of selfishness, gluttony, and greed. If you want to know the Republican's values these days, look no further than the three "upside-down" stars on the GOP logo. Anton LaVey and Ayn Rand would be proud.

cwalker: That's what libs are betting on, the voting American public being stupid. That's their only hope. Why do you think they always look to government to solve problems? It's because they've been able to convince enough people that "you are smart enough or able enough to take care of yourself, so we'll do it for you." Sure, they do it under the guise of "compassion." But, the reality is that there is no compassion in taking money out of one person's pocket and giving it to another. Compassion is taking it out of your own pocket and giving it to another. But libs don't have compassion. Just look at charitable giving of past presidential candidates. Year in and year out it has been "those greedy, selfish" repubs who have given much more of their money to charitable causes than the "compassionate" libs.

I will grant you that today's repub party is not the party of Abe, Teddy and Barry. The repub leadership is so far to the left of where even the dem party was a mere 25 years ago. That's why there's a revolution going on within the repub party. Government has gotten so out of control, that if the trend doesn't stop, there will be no country left to defend.

No Child Left Behind - Thank you Ted Kennedy.

cwalker you have got it 100% right. this is not the party of family values or america first. not anymore this is rush and shaun's party of we want all the money and you and yours can eat dirt for all we care.!

And there you have it CWalker, the essence of the liberal left. Anybody who disagrees with them (and even the unwashed masses that do) are sheep and stupid and need to be rescued by the elites on the left. The irony is that the characterizations that you use to denigrate the right are found in you and your arguments. Talk about political amnesia, you support Obama in the face of such an obvious reality of incompetence. You must not be able to remember what you had for breakfast today.

I think that Mr. Obama, just like Mr. Bush, and other presidents before him, believe that what they do and what they support is good for the nation. I see no evidence of a Manchurian Candidate in Obama or anyone else, regardless of how badly I think Mr. Obama has performed as president. CWalker makes a very bad case for him.

On the one hand you say Romney is blaming Obama for bad schools. While not true--the claim is that Obama has made schools worse--your evidence to exonerate Mr. Obama from Romney's assertion is that Obama has given waivers to various jurisdictions to exempt them from NCLB consequences. Whether or not you like NCLB (I don't as there is no federal authority to be in local education), the idea that eliminating the consequences for failing schools would make education better is simply laughable. So, on the other hand, you think Romney should credit Mr. Obama with removing from schools some of the requirements they perform better, despite all known human evidence that consequences shift behavior.

I think the Race to the Top program has the same goals as NCLB, but as it is federally-based it too has no authority to support it in the constitution), and it is too bad that we don't find our success caused by good intentions. If that was the measure of competency then our federal government, and our elected officials, surely would have created nirvana on earth already. No, CWalker, most voters aren't sheep, and they aren't stupid, but they are forever hopeful. What we need is a hard look at what kind of nation we want to be, and what has worked, and what hasn't, to get us to that goal. Now, go back to grazing.

The only reason Bush created No Child Left Behind was so Bush could control the school purse strings, and then Bush used that money to drill for oil in Iraq.

witchrunner,

Why do you think they always look to government to solve problems?

so, just who should solve the problems we have, corporate America, they are the ones causing the problems, or let the problems roll ???

btw; there have been a lot of (dumb) people at some of these marches holding signs that state "keep your government hands off my medicare"

American Girl says "The only reason Bush created No Child Left Behind was so Bush could control the school purse strings, and then Bush used that money to drill for oil in Iraq."

Wow. Do you also believe Bush was behind the 9-11 attacks?

The government exists to defend the country.

From threats of attack, foreign and domestic. It doesn't matter if the attack is a missile, a virus, a terrorist, or a C.E.O. in a suit.

What I want is protection. I want protected from corporate greed, attacks on my rights, attacks on my freedom, and my right to choose.

Those attacks can come from lobbyists, representatives, senators, and super pacs.

I don't just want my freedom. I want everyone to have the same freedom.

I, as properly defined, am a liberal. That is liberty and justice for all.

I'll fight for your right to collective bargaining, your right to freedom of speech, your right to choose who you love, your right to work in a safe environment, your right to an abortion, your right to become an American, and your right to vote.

I'll fight for every right we have and those rights we need to have. I don't pick and choose what right to defend and what right to eliminate. I want every right I have and every right I don't currently have.

Patriotism left with Bush.

You right wing (informed?) voters, please tell me what Obama is taking from you and giving away to the poor that was not already being done before he took office? For the last time SPENDING HAS NOT INCREASED UNDER OBAMBA, you take out the stimulus and spending is actually dropping.

Everything else is a lie or a misleading statement, this is the facts as they exist today. How many of you actully do not want Social Security, or Medi-Care, or the protection of unenployment insurance. Oh, by the way, we pay into all of these. If you don't have an income your social security check will reflect those earnings.

What kind of a country do you want to live in - Every man for himself? If that's the case next time there is a war; you people better join up or have your kids join up, I know that everyman in my family has served in the military and we are all democrats.

JH::: Ten years ago, on January 8, 2002, President George W. Bush signed the No Child Left Behind Act into law.

Sure, Kennedy was a co-sponsor but BUSH signed it into law. NOT TED KENNEDY. Why don't you read something besides your one-sided news?

No, Bush created NCLB because it mandated schools to buy tests from a textbook company that his friend owns. All about MONEY!! These tests cost so much money it is laughable. The problem with NCLB isn't that it raises standards too high it is because it doesn't take into consideration special need kids or high risk kids. EVERY single child is required to take these tests even extremely disabled children who can't walk, talk, write, or even bathe themselves. Schools who have a high number of these kids always fall below the AYP numbers and can lose federal funding and some really good teachers because of there being no accommodations.

Remember the televised Health Care debate with the President and members of Congress? Remember "WE won,you lost"? Now about the "Republicans are welcome for the ride ,but must sit in the back"? Does that sound like some one willing to compromise???

slodon

According to a HELP Committee document about bipartisan aspects of the health reform bill the committee passed July 15, 2009, its final bill included "161 Republican amendments," including "several amendments from Senators [Mike] Enzi [R-WY], [Tom] Coburn [R-OK], [Pat] Roberts [R-KS] and others [that] make certain that nothing in the legislation will allow for rationing of care," and reflected the efforts of "six bipartisan working groups" that "met a combined 72 times" in 2009 as well as "30 bipartisan hearings on health care reform" since 2007, half of which were held in 2009 [HELP Committee document, 7/09]. And according to the Senate Finance Committee's September 22, 2009, document detailing the amendments to the Chairman's Mark considered, at least 13 amendments sponsored by one or more Republican senators were included in the bill.

Looks like a Hell of a lot of compromising to me.

corporateshill: Actually, if I have a problem I'll first look to myself. But, given looking at corporate America and government America I'll take corporate America any day. Only the private sector creates wealth. The government is just a drain on that.

Need to get from California to New York? Don't to the government, but corporate America will get you there. Want a new car? Same thing. Want heat in the winter and a/c in the summer? Same thing. I think you get the message. Want to become a millionaire? Well, both ways work. You can become an entrepreneur and make lots of money or you can become a Congressman or Senator and vote yourself a lot of money from the taxpayers and take bribes from lobbyists for you votes. So, yup, both ways do work here.

If your boy obama really wanted to boost the ecomony he would had given the money HE gave to banks to the american people instead. They could have given out checks to the people and told them they could only be used for purchasing a car or paying on their homes. That would have gotten the money flowing. But instead he gave it to the banks and to wall street. Now he trys to act like they are evil. If they are what does that make him? obama has taken more money from banks and wall street for his re-election than anyone ever has!!! And by the way people, obama belongs to that 1% as do ALL those people in washington dc. No different than Romney.

Giving cash to people who bank it doesn't stimulate growth. Esoecially if those banks are in the Cayman's, Ireland, Switzerland, China, India, instead of in the AMERICAN economy.

1) Bank Bailout and Wall street bailouts were President Bushes Ideas, President Obama just let them happen, which I happen to agree, was a huge error.

2) The big difference between President Obama, and Mitt Romney, is President Obama paid his taxes on what he earned, Mittens buried his earnings in offshore accounts to evade his fiscal responsibility

First, ALL the money "LOANED" to banks has been paid back to the US taxpayers, with interest. Stop blabbing that it was given to the banks.

Do you think you'll ever see the money Obama blew with his green energy gambles, GM, Solyndra, Freddie, Fannie, etc. It's gone folks and all you're leader has programmed you with is "them evil banks" just so you don't see who the real dolt is, "Occupying" the White House.

Second, the Obama's are multi-millionaires, so stop with the class warfare BS. Again, just a diversion to keep the lemming, societal parasite followers from focusing on the fact the current regime has racked up over 5 TRILLION in debt. All part of his "redistribution" plan.

Obama and his Thug Patrol / Re-election campaign in Chicago will continue their diversionary / class warfare / race-baiting strategy because that is all the "Community Organizer-In-Chief" has got.

stormclouds

There you go spouting untruths regarding Ryans budget which in fact allows all people over 55 to still get their social security and medicare benefits. So how is that hurting the elderly? Also, we need reform of all of our social programs so that people that don't really qualify can quit abusing the system but democrats would love that so they can keep getting votes from people that don't want to work. Social Security and Medicare are not solvent and something has to be done. The kick the can approach that the dems are taking is not helping the problem. I personally would rather have mrore say over how my social security is handled and I would like to invest it rather than let the government decide what to do with it. As a middle class worker I want to pay less taxes, have a smaller government, and allow businesses to be able to take risks if needed. It is funny how so few people know how capitalism actually works and it built this country to allow us to have the revenue to do the things we have been able to do.

As far as infrastructure jobs those are only temporary until the project is over then people could lose their job. How about helping the business community including small businesses to hire more people instead of giving them a burdensome health care law that might actually cause many to lay off employees or not hire at all. Burdensome regulations do NOT help businesses grow. Pumping more money into the economy can also cause inflation which is what is happening now and our dollar is devalued significantly. Also, Obamas budget adds to the deficit and does very little to pay it off which again the people on the left seem to forget that we have a huge deficit that needs to be paid down most of which has to be done by big spending cuts because a raise in taxes is not going to do it. WE HAVE A HUGE DEBT problem. The UK and Europe are a fine example of how to run things economically you see how Greece is doing and Italy. We are headed done that road if we don't do something soon and a President that spends 5 trillion and continues the wars that cost us money through most of his terms does not get a lot of trust in my book on the fiscal front. He spent all this money and we still have huge unemployment and how much time does it take? The left says Obama hasn't had enough time to fix everything? Really? What is enough time in their book? 4 years, 10? When will the excuses stop. The ways to help job growth and the economy are simple and proven over the years and the current admin and democrats in congress only want more government control and more government jobs which cost the tax payers more over time. These are not just talking points!

storm..... Your DNC / Organizing Against America talking points are tired.

You suggest following the President's plan..... Where, off the cliff? Over 5 TRILLION in new debt under O. Not 1 democrat voting for O's budget proposals in Congress, not 1 during the last 2 votes. His 10 yr. budget projections all have 1 TRILLION in new debt per year in them.

How is that sustainable? It's not. He couldn't balance the budget of a lemonade stand.

That is what you get when you hire a Commuinty Organizer to run something. They ruin it alright..... right into the ground.

storm - who controlled Congress and wrote TARP? Yes, Bush signed it.

I think we all have to face facts neither of the parties care about the american citizens they think we deserve what they are doing to us. and are trying to replace us with aliens from many countries some are even here legally. we need to send a essage to them by voting all of them out of office no matter who the are.

I sure hope Mutt ( Herman Munster ) Romney picks the idiot Paul ( Eddie Munster ) Ryan for his veep.

It would make for some hilarious SNL.

As opposed to Urkel and the Dumbell who are currently in office ???

storm...

In what publication have you discovered a single charge of tax evasion filed on behalf of Mitt Romney ??? With all the money he has earned by being an extremely successful businessman...where are all the legal charges that he did anything but pay the enormous amount of taxes he rightfully was due to pay ???

Also...where exactly did you find that "kill the elderly and the poor" clause in Paul Ryan's budget document ???

You need to stop watching Mr. Obama's advertisements...haven't you yet figured out that he is not an honest man ???

here's an idea Tony,

why don't you get your "friends" together and start a comedy show that bashes liberals-- do it !

JH - #3.7,

I'll be happy to answer that. It was President Bush Secretary of State H. Paulson that not only thought it up (TARP) but also sold President Bush on it. It was President Bush that forced it through Congress over the objections of the Senate. Do a little research before you place blame on someone.

Just-the-facts,

Perhaps you should "google" to just see how much has been payed back by the banks along with any interest. You might be surprised at the number who haven't paid back anything. Just switched their bail out money from one program to another, without paying back anything.

"Chicago thugs" , is that like "Tea party Thugs"? Just asking?

tony::: To start, Mutt Robme puts the majority of his money off shore-- that way he doesn't have to pay taxes on it. And what little he does have in country he pays a very small percentage tax. I bet the men in uniform-- who are cheap people according to Mutt-- pay more tax than Mutt does.

He has to keep a little money in country so that he can pay to build all his playtoys, which NORMAL people can't afford.

elk...

Because there isn't anything funny about them. However if I did start a comedy show...Congresswoman Frederica Wilson would be the star...her pink plastic cowgirl hats would be the co-stars.

Susie...

Has Mitt Romney broken any tax laws...no. What is supposed to do...bend over backwards to pay more money to a wasteful government than is legally due ??? Why should he...he's paid tens of millions of his money in state and federal taxes and what gets remembered ??? His earnings...not those tens of millions in paid taxes. His taxes have paid a lot of other people's bills.

And as far as "NORMAL" goes...I don't want 'normal' in my president, I want above normal...successful...smart...inventive...and determined. Because Mr. Romney has those traits, he can afford the "playtoys" folks like you resent so much.

tony, how can a person with a silver spoon since birth have any risk, since he was promised his old job back WITH backpay if his venture capital stakes didn't pan out? You know of ANY regular jobs that guarantee that? (crickets chirping) How about Ryan's Budget Bill that grants MORE money towards military (defending GOP defense contractors), cuts funding to food for poor children, protecting big oil subsidies (and campaign donators) over senior health care, even the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops oppose Ryan's Bill, which in itself says a lot, because they said it will directly effect the middle-class and the poor. and by going BACK to the Bush era policies (that did not work). Yep, that's a smart idea, isnt it. Or maybe better yet, amnesia concerning what happened for 8 years previously.

So...what the Catholic Bishops say about a proposed federal budget actually matters...but what they say about being forced to pay employee costs for contraception services as ordered by the president's ever morphing healthcare reform doesn't matter. Can't have it both ways...the church's opinion matters or it doesn't matter, when it comes to public policy.

You need to stop watching the president's television commercials...they aren't honest and neither is he.

At least Paul Ryan put a budget forward that starts a conversation about reducing the bankrupting costs of running this country...somebody has got to have the nads to offer fact..we cannot afford to continue spending the way we do and a small bucket of extra tax dollars taken from the very wealthy is not enough to change the course we are on.

NBC manufacturing more "news" to keep the sheep oblivious to the upcoming slaughter.... too bad some sheep still fall for it, you would think they would have learned to ignore this garbage after the 2010 midterms.

When you have to skew your polls by as much as 9% in favor of Democrats to give Obama a 3% "advantage" you are only highlighting your lack of integrity and your desperation.

Polled voters by percentage:
Florida
Democrat 43
Republican 35

Virginia
Democrat 31
Republican 29

Ohio
Democrat 37
Republican 28

The really sad part is...that if Romney or a repub majority in congress happens, they have no idea, no plan as to what to do, next. You're right, they want the win, more than create, stimulate, assist and listen to the people.

Sooner or later Romney is going to have to actually say something that he is FOR or AGAINST....other than, mostly being against what the President has said or done. When Romney's idea's are finally verbalized (to the public), even the repub voters will again say "What the...! Who is this guy?"

Democrat's are whining about the republicans? Blame it on republicans? The democratic party has elected nothing but under achievers. They're whole argument is that, by giving money to under achievers it will stimulate the economy. If it fails, blame and race bait. pitiful......

Not right Alwayzright the congress is so ineffective even if they were given a blank check they would not use it to create jobs! are you blind, have you not seen the stonewalling going on in the congress to hold back job growth, the continual working against anything and everything to make the President fail so they can get back in control [ think about it! ]???

How about these famous words " I will be a one term President if I cant fix the economy". How soon the takers forget.

Hey me

Joe Biden would say you are wrong. He says the repubs are showing their hand and not hiding a thing. They have plans that don't match the dems plans so this coming election will be very interesting. The independents will decide this election. I'm supporting the right side, I like their plans.

Sorry Dale,

I don't see it that way. there has been many proposals provided by the House and Ried stops anything from becoming a vote. What plan has the democrats provided? Crickets.

WRONG those so called bills are more of the same bull@!$%#, if they were really jobs bills they would have no problem being supported by democrats.

Tell me what REAL plans has the GOP put forth. NOTHING.

At least you can admit the republicans had produced bill to be voted on. Nothing from the democrats. The Dem's have adopted a OWS strategy to divide the american people and destroy the economy.

alwayzright, moron, go away !!!

Corporate,

Is name calling all your about? Typical trailer trash sponge of life form.

Hey It's...

What exactly is Mr. Obama's plan ??? Despite the fact that he's flapping his gums at a high school or college campus nearly every night on the news while nursing the kiddie-vote...he sure doesn't say much about how he plans to fix things in a second term that he did not fix in his first term.

PAS, your are entitled to your opinions, but not your own facts, the republicans have blocked, distorted, and lied about everything President obama has tried to do, and STILL, he has managed to not only stop the economic freefall President Bushes adminstation left behind, but REVERSE it, giving the economy 28 straight months of growth. That's leadership, and with NO HELP AT ALL from the Grover Norquist/Tea party loonies, (never mind that signing a pledge to debilitate the country for political gain is treason), going backwards gets you nowhere, going forward, with a plan for economic recovery, instead of feeding the rich and corporations that pay you, is a much smarter idea

This former Republican from Ohio will NEVER vote for another Republican. Until Republicans begin to understand that a strong middle class is the ONLY way we can solve our economic problems, I can never again cast a cast a vote in the "R" direction. The REAL job creators are those folks buying groceries, shopping at local retail stores, pumping gas..... Until policies begin favoring THOSE job creators, the Republicans will never get my vote.

Come on Ohio. Send John Boehner back to bar tending.

Pas you obviously aren't one of the three or four people who watches C-span 1 or 2. You also don't know that Senate rules allow ONE stubborn mule to BLOCK any bill from being considered. You also don't know that 43 clowns that call themselves Senators have NO interest in seeing a successful United States, under a Democrat. Heck, they aren't interested in seeing anything successful except multi-millionaires and billionaires. You also realize that most of those clowns are milllionaires themselves, which means they are protecting their ill-gottens gains.

"They are trying to destroy your jobs"? This coming from someone that is supporting a party that is nominating Mitt Romney - who has actually made a living out of destroying jobs? Rick Perry, Governor of Texas of all people, called Romney a vulture for destroying jobs. Newt Gingrich said similar things about Romney. And for the record, Obama and the Democrats wanted to work with Republicans - that is why it took them a whole year to figure it out. Obamacare was based on Romneycare in Massachusetts and in the 1990s, the Republicans were proposing the SAME system!!!! Ever hear of the DOLE PLAN? I do have to take a moment and say that the democrats really disappointed me that 2 year span where all they wanted to do was compromise and work together with the Republicans. The Democrats really need to suck it up and get some b*lls because this whole "Politically correct, tolerance, and working together" crum really helped us out much when the Republicans said NO to everything. We should have just slammed everything through: Gay marriage, public option universal healthcare, ending the wars, ect... but no, the dems just wasted that time trying to sway Republicans for 2 darn years when we couldn't sway them at all on anything. It's repugnant!

Pas: simply put "NO" it would be much better if you woke up and voted for your best interests, and vote the Dem's back in control of all three houses!!!

Pas; Even if your wealthy and in the 1% bracket your better off with the Dem's in control the country will heal better without the obstructionism!!!

listenToMe

So your going to vote for a politician that has brought this country to it's financial knees, and the only thing Hussein Obama has done is campaign continuously since he took office.

dont care #5.7~~Get rid of your hatred, check and comprehend facts, then you will be able to admit, you are lying!!!

You can never convince a fanatic that he's wrong, I wonder if the Repuglicants are paying people to spout these lies on public forums, or if they are just actual victims of R brainwashing.

Don't blame the voters that tend to favor Republicans, they are just misled and lied to. Watch, if the Republicans take the Senate or the Presidency, they won't balance the budget. They'll increase spending just as they had before under any other Republican administration [but they'll continue to cut revenue which is an economic disaster]. And, if they actually repeal Obamacare, they'll replace it a few months later as the exact same thing, but they'll change the name and take the credit instead. And Republican voters will bless them for it like the zombie sheep they are...

To CWalker's point:

Study Finds Fox News Viewers Least Informed Of All Viewers:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/23/fox-news-less-informed-new-study_n_1538914.html

I blame the 47% of the eligible American voters, who do not exercise their right to vote. Whenever you hear a Repuiblican Congressman or Senator use the words the American people, they are talking about the 1% of the 43% who do vote.

Listen...... a Huffington Post cite to try and prove your point..... LOL.... Classic !!!

John: Your statement borders on genius, but their is another way without raising taxes that drastically! to bad they the congress will not pass a bill requiring all people worth over five hundred thousand dollars to pay cash money on a sliding scale, starting at fifty thousand dollars, up to one billion dollars to pay down the budget deficit, and all corporations, banks, insurance companies, organizations, billionaires etc. to pay one million up to a billion a one time fix that could happen very fast almost overnight, to get the country back on track, they could get that back in tax breaks over ten years and it would not put any of them in a hardship position, and the country would save four trillion dollars in interest over ten years.

That would allow the congress and the President to leave the Bush tax cuts in place until they reform the tax system, keeping their taxes low, and they could also not have to make those drastic cuts as much for a year or two, this would also help the wealthy make more money because it would create millions of jobs, and they could go ahead with the job stimulus plan the President tried to pass the recovery would be much stronger if they do it!!!

The Huffington Post is more credible than FOX, your ONLY news source.

John, keep smoking that stuff and eat your Cheerios on the couch while watching food channel...Chris Mathews and Rachel Meadows is your only news source...get a real life, get off food stamps and become part of society son.

Actually my main news source is the Daily show and Colbert, it's a damn shame they've been on vacation the past 2 weeks. Thankfully they are both back next week. I think your avatar speaks volumes you racist.

John,

I think your avatar speaks volumes for your comprehension ability.

alwayzright and your avatar shows bigotry !?!

Never right, you might actually be able to do some independent thinking if you burn one.

By the way moron Marijuana DOES NOT effect comprehension, however having your pea brain bombarded with right wing lies certainly does.

alwayzright::: Thank God I can't be arrested for what I'm thinking about you and your mentality. Just hope your morality ranks higher than your mentality.

That check is coming to an end whether Obama is elected or not, time for you to go back to work.

Over 5 TRILLION in new debt under Obama!! NOT SUSTAINABLE !!!!!!

Obama killed Osama Bin Laden.

Bush43's response was "I don't know where he is and I don't care."

Pukes please provide a reasonable response for that.

Just D lies 5 trillion in debt has been racked under Obama's tenure, what pinheads don't seem to get is 80% of that can be directly attributed to Bush policies. Government spending at the federal level has been flat during the Obama administration. Really the only spending Obama has racked up was the Stimulus, which put $400 extra cash in my pocket in 2009 and 2010 that was about 1/3 another 1/3 went to states to help them through some very rough times, the final 1/3 went to infrastructure and other projects.

I'm sure Fox and other media outlets won't tell you that, because they rely on stupid people to keep their lying spin machine operating.

John,

just d facts likes his own facts, not the real ones !!!

Rod_Father - Obama killed Bin Laden?

Seems to me he sat safe and warm in the Sit room while the SEALs took out OBL. Then BHO takes credit when all he did was say "OK".

Credit where credit is due. Obama didn't kill Bin Laden. But he did order the murder of a US citizen by drone. Lots of guts and ethics in this guy.

Corporate Shill's view of life seems to be "I reject your reality and substitute my own".

Check your facts. You'll find that you've been lied to by your liberal buds.

clarty,

YOU check YOUR facts. turns out YOU are being LIED to by FOX NEWS

NBC manufacturing more "news" to keep the sheep oblivious to the upcoming slaughter.... too bad some sheep still fall for it, you would think they would have learned to ignore this garbage after the 2010 midterms.

When you have to skew your polls by as much as 9% in favor of Democrats to give Obama a 3% "advantage" you are only highlighting your lack of integrity and your desperation.

Polled voters by percentage:
Florida
Democrat 43
Republican 35

Virginia
Democrat 31
Republican 29

Ohio
Democrat 37
Republican 28

Don't fool yourself. Mittens had the most money...he is able to stay in the longest. Yea...it's that simple. How else would he get the nomination? You saw how hard it was to get primary/caucus votes, from repub's. You hear the 'strong' endorsements he gets: "Well okay, Mitts the last man standing, and so [big sigh] I'll vote for him...I mean, I endorse him." You can see how on almost every issue, he is 'for' BOTH sides.

The repub's dont want him...he's just went the furthest because if of his deep pockets.

It is questionable whether Mutt will receive the number of delegates needed on the convention floor to officially receive the nomination.

Right now they are merely trying to get the party endorsement.

your point well taken listen to the dumbass ...just d facts ...he can't get the FACT that the obama's mage LESS,LESS,LESS than a million dollars . unlike the repub idiot we KNOW because they SHOWED their tax RETURNS TAX RETURNS TAX RETURNS.....where's williard's??????????dumb @!$%#s

Too bad life's not that simple, Bagman. Who filed to run for office? Who won the primaries? You think the GOP cast all the primary votes for Romney? The real problem is that those who would be good GOP candidates don't run for the Presidency. Why don't you put together a campaign next time instead of carping about those who actually do it?

As Clemens put it - "there are lies, damned lies, and statistics". Sample size, location, question phrasing do lead the result of a poll. Plus its waaaaay too early for most of the independents to have solidified their minds on who to vote for. Let's wait till Nov. and see whether the American people are savvy enough not to be fooled again. Good points, Kitty69

Thank you for chiming in Mitt, you have no real business experience.

Being a vulture capitalist isn't a qualification for President.

By the way ass hat I am better off.

They have a liberal bias, but not anywhere near the bias Fox displays with no shame.

Sean Hannity is the biggest @!$%#nut on the planet.

Bayner,

jealousy will not improve your goals to get off the dole and pay your fair share of taxes.

A whatever,

Good advice. You should try it sometime. Just saying.

Wrong again, gee for someone who claims to be right all the time you sure are wrong a lot. I have a decent job and I pay plenty of taxes.

What or who would I be jealous of, certainly NOT you, or the aforementioned dick head who lies on FOX

Keep dreaming moron.

Yea, it's another poll that doesn't say what you want it to say. So yea, we get your frustration.

There will be dozens of polls between now and November. And they'll probably swing back and forth. Believe the ones you want, and discard the others. In the end only the last one is critical.

You shouldn't believe it because it is skewed and it was made in response to the primaries where Obama could barely beat an incarcerated felon or any generic candidate.

Look at who was "polled":

Polled voters by percentage:
Florida
Democrat 43
Republican 35

Virginia
Democrat 31
Republican 29

Ohio
Democrat 37
Republican 28

pjam09

How many times are you planning on posting this same ole drivel?

I agree Bosslimo. Copying/Pasting crap is silly, but to leave out the source....is embarrassing. pjam09 is just making stuff up, repeating it...and waiting for the other repub's to grab on to it.

"Facts? We don't need no stinkin' facts!" Right pjam09? lol

Reading isn't a strong suit for the RWNJ's

Bayner - got anything substantive to add to the discussion or are you just spouting off between hits?

Show me a seed with substance, and I'll be happy to, what's your excuse.

Ha! I thought I read NBC-Marxist polls too. Awesome.

hey P.O.P.

Romney is a leaf forward over the community organizing great half white hope.

Romney is no doubt the biggest liar that I have ever listened to, even during a campaign !!!!!

That Community Organizer did win the presidency. lolol Try Gloop on that McCain/Palin Sticker!!

Name one lie Shill?

I think it's a blessing to have a moderate conservative running. I am not part of the right wing zealots. I just prefer fiscal security and sensibility over tax and spend.

Romney the Liar has claimed, repeatedly, that President Obama has increased the national debt "more than all other president combined".

there's 1 , I suppose you'll want 1 more

shilly, You should have picked something else. Maobama HAS over doubled the debt he inherited.

That's bull@!$%#, unfortunately you don't know it because you watch faux entertainment.

5 trillion is 1/2 of 10 trillion so how did President Obama double it? Bush came in when the debt was 5 trillion and he left when it was 10 trillion that is double. Your school system need to be fixed badly!!! But again Fox might have told you a different story lol Faux History!!!

seems that conservative mathematics is much different than real mathematics!!!!

I live in Florida. I'd have to say you are correct in that assertion that Obama is behind here. Time for a change.

the older people in Florida had better wise up some. !!!!

A vote for Romney is a vote for doing away with Social Security and Medicare !!

shilly, You're not on your meds, are you? That is one of the single dumbest statements, in a sea of dumb statements, seen here today.

really stanboy,

The Ryan plan will replace Medicare with a voucher that pays for only about half what it does now!!

and everyone knows the republicon intent is to put SS into the hands of the private sector(can you say fraudulent banks)and once that happens it will be gone!!!

are you living in a closet ??? or just refuse to accept what is really happening???

shill - "the older people in Florida had better wise up some. !!!!

A vote for Romney is a vote for doing away with Social Security and Medicare !!"

So your message is:

"Don't do whats best for the future of the nation or the next generation.. you should vote for whoever will give the most handouts".

Spoken like a true Democrat.

pjam09

Must be nice not to have any stakes in the pot. How do you get by without investing in Soc. Sec. and Medicare?

See, you really must not have put any money into the system since you support getting rid of it.

Everyone else with money in the pool wants to use their money in the pool.

You are happy with giving it away to banks.

pjam,

Thus far, neither program has contributed to the national debt. It is true that they both will need to adjusted to continue working into the future, however to do away with them just further rewards the richest people of our nation at the expense of the working people.

so your message would be ...."screw the people that have continued to finance these programs, take the money owed them by the government and reward the rich people with tax cuts."

spoken like a true fascist !!!!

Any wealth redistribution has gone from the bottom upward to the top, not the other way around. The wealthy are the only ones who have seen their income go up, and by a lot, while the rest of us have suffered. We are the ones being squeezed. It is corporate welfare and greed that hurt this country. Capitalism is good, but bad capitalism is not. Romney is going to make sure that the working poor, middle class and elderly continue to bear the brunt of sacrifice so that the very delicate wealthy won't have to share in any of it. He is going to cut taxes even more which will benefit the wealthy the most and he will deregulate, because we all know was too much regulation on Wall Street that brought this economy to its knees. sarcasm here.

Who woud bail us out, not even China with our credit rating