Potential VP pick Paul Ryan calls Obama 'a failed president'

Jae C. Hong / AP

House Budget Committee chairman Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., speaks at The Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif., Tuesday, May 22, 2012. Ryan, a potential pick to join Mitt Romney's presidential ticket, blamed President Barack Obama on Tuesday for anemic job growth and unchecked spending and debt that he said are pushing the nation toward decline.

 

 

SIMI VALLEY, Calif. -- Congressman Paul Ryan (R-WI), a potential vice presidential pick for Mitt Romney, had harsh words for President Barack Obama Tuesday evening, but told the crowd the nation could get back on the right track with the 2012 election.
 
"We face not just a failed president, but a failed ideology. We face a pessimistic mood in the nation's capital. A belief that our best days are over and the only thing left to do is to manage the nation's decline,” Ryan told the nearly 1,000-person crowd at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library. “But, we have the same opportunity today to reject this defeatist attitude and to embrace a positive reform agenda possible to kick start a new era of prosperity, an American renewal, a comeback.”
 
The House Budget Committee chairman, who focused the majority of his 30-minute address on Obama, said the president continues to want “to take us further in the wrong direction” and acknowledged the only way to make progress is “the removal of certain partisan roadblocks” -- like the president.
 
“Americans have always rejected those with nothing to offer but cynicism and the politics of division. And right now, that’s all they are getting from the president,” Ryan said, noting the president has become “just another Washington politician.”
 
Romney, who Ryan threw his support behind before the primary in his home state of Wisconsin, is the man who can best change the trajectory of America according to the Congressman.
 
“What I see in Mitt Romney are the kind of tools, the kind of skills, the kind of character and attributes you need in a leader. He makes decisions. He doesn’t pander. And so what I see is a person who understands the moment our country is facing and a person who is willing to do what it takes to get us out of the path we are on and back on a path to prosperity,” Ryan said. “I really believe he is the right guy for the times and I think he is going to beat Barack Obama and I think we are going to save this country.”

Former first lady Nancy Reagan, 90, who invited Ryan to speak at the library was scheduled to attend but it was announced at start of event she is at home on doctor's orders recovering from broken bones she suffered in a fall a few weeks back.
 
This high profile speech in California will only continue speculation that the seven term congressman may be selected to serve as Romney’s No. 2. Both New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and Florida Senator Marco Rubio – two additional names on the potential VP list – have spoken at the venue.  Asked about accepting the position if approached by the presumptive nominee, Ryan did not completely shut down the idea as other Republicans in question have recently.
 
“That’s somebody else’s decision months away and that’s a conversation I need to have with my wife before I have it all with you,” Ryan said to loud applause, but added, “I like what I am doing. Don’t underestimate how important Congress is.”
 
The Congressman did say he was optimistic Republicans would retain control of the House and gain control of the Senate but cautioned, “you can’t take anything for granted.”

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But apparently, speaking disrespectfully about a sitting US President, and predicting US decline, is an attribute Congressman Ryan thinks is Presidential, or at least, Vice-Presidential.

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#1 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:25 AM EDT

Well Written !!!!

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#1.1 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:36 AM EDT

Well written!!!

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#1.2 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:40 AM EDT

Obama has put forward or extended plenty of right-wing policies but I guess the current GOP platform has to have something to b#!ch about. I'm looking for the debt ceiling charade part II.

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#1.3 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:47 AM EDT
Comment author avatarMtMike-571674Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Paul Ryan, excellent choice, someone who cares about the future of America, has a plan, and is fiscally responsible!

Obama is one and done and here is why! Under Obama,

Only in America could the people who believe in balancing the budget
and sticking by the country's Constitution be thought of as "extremists".

Only in America could the government collect more tax dollars from the
people than any nation in recorded history, still spend a trillion dollars
more than it has per year for total spending ($7 million PER MINUTE), and
complain that it doesn't have nearly enough money.

Only in America would we make people who want to legally become
American citizens wait for years in their home countries and pay tens of
thousands of dollars for the privilege while we discuss letting anyone who
sneaks into the country illegally just become American citizens.

Only in America could people claim that the government still
discriminates against black Americans when we have a black President, a
black Attorney General, and a federal workforce that is roughly 18% black
when the black population is only 12%.

Only in America could we have had the two people most responsible for
our tax code — Timothy Geithner, the head of the Treasury Department and
Charles Rangel who once ran the Ways and Means Committee — turn out to be
tax cheats who are in favor of higher taxes.

Only in America could politicians talk about the greed of the rich at a
$40,000-a-plate campaign fund raising event.

Only in America could the rich people who pay 86% of all income taxes
be accused of not paying their "fair share" by people who don't pay any
income taxes at all.

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#1.4 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:17 AM EDT

Wow...that will make it 3 failed two-term Presidents in a row...

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#1.5 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:24 AM EDT

MtMike: Making up stuff again. Obama administration shows the lowest federal spending since Eisenhower. Black people may be only 12% of the population, but represent a huge percentage of our prison population - that is institutional discrimination. Perhaps the current tax code should reflect the policies of Ronald Reagan who raised taxes and said that the rich should pay more. Yep, the rich pay about 86% of all income taxes - but remember, their source of wealth is not "income" but corporate dividends and special slush funds that they can hide away in off-shore accounts.

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#1.6 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:30 AM EDT

Paul Ryan wants to end social security and medicare, even for current recipients! Do folks REALLY want that? Do they even KNOW that? He thinks people should be allowed to starve to make them "stronger". Really! He has SAID that (or words to that effect.)

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#1.7 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:31 AM EDT

Paul Ryan is a known liar, so who cares what he says? Paul Ryan's Meet the Press comments further proved he is a liar. His responses to David Gregory were appalling.

First was the Q&A about austerity in Europe. Paul Ryan had the audacity to spin his plan as preventing austerity. WTF? Either Paul Ryan doesn't know "starve the beast" is "austerity" as in draconian cuts in spending per percent of GDP, or he was telling a bald-faced lie. He completely avoided responding directly to questions about "eating the corn seed" with cuts in education and other basic and necessary investments.

And as if this line of BS wasn't bad enough, Paul Ryan went on to defend his outrageous tax cuts for the rich, saying his plan would remove loophole/tax credits so everyone could enjoy lower tax rates. The supposed removal of loopholes/tax credits are so vague in the Ryan budget that it can't be scored. Imagine that, nothing fishy there.

Paul Ryan, let's see the GOP/TP end loopholes/tax credits FIRST, and then we'll talk. I trust the Teapublicans and Paul Ryan as far as I could throw them. Second, with whatever revenue that may or may not be generated, and assuming the revenue would be more than "break even" by ending loopholes, why not use any overage to pay down the debt? Why use it to cut taxes even more than taxes already are – especially for the rich who don't need them?

This is the same old scam used with the 2001 Bush tax cuts to get the top tax rate reduced. Have people already forgotten this? And don't forget -- then the Republicans passed the second round of tax cuts in 2003 on dividends, capital gains, etc., which only benefited the rich. So why the hell would anyone support Paul Ryan's plan to cut taxes already at a historic low—including more tax cuts for the rich—especially when it will add to the debt/deficits?

Paul Ryan, stop lying about concern about debts/deficits. You are only another tax and spend Republican like Reagan and Bush.

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#1.8 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:31 AM EDT

I agree with Ryan. At the same time I know it takes two to Tango. With this in mind he should add the House is a failure as well.

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#1.9 - Wed May 23, 2012 3:28 AM EDT

Well, if anyone knows what failure looks like it would be one of the the GOPs poster boys..Pill Ryan

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#1.10 - Wed May 23, 2012 4:23 AM EDT

@Thomas

Very astute observation, looking across the aisle at it everyday would make Him an expert

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#1.11 - Wed May 23, 2012 4:30 AM EDT
Comment author avatarhungrymongooseExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Doesn't it scare you that @ 52% of the country (Obama's current polling number of getting re-elected) actually have no clue or don't care that Obama has added over 5 trillion dollars to the national debt? This now ginormous national debt (of over 16 trillion total) only has a small chance of being fixed with a Romney/Ryan presidency, as they come with water to a raging inferno. Obama and the brainwashed continue to beat their horses, accelerating their speed to gallop off the cliff.

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#1.12 - Wed May 23, 2012 5:47 AM EDT
Comment author avatarFuzzy-0457Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I tend to agree with you under normal conditions. Obama has done everything in his power to HIDE everything that will clear his name, so we could have supported him as we should. It is the Americans RIGHT, to know and understand the man we elected as our president. To represent the American citizens should have been an honor instead of a fraud and cover up. Obama brought this on himself, with the outlandish hiding of everything to prove who he is, or is not. By what Obama did, NO other president has done. Obama has gone out of his way to hide the TRUE FACTS about himself. Everything he has done, and ALL the PROOF obtained about him, PROVES, he is not who the democrats say he is. He has made EVERYONE, including other countries take the stand, that America has a FRAUDULENT President and is laughing at America for electing him to represent us. Also, Obama has constantly LIED to America and has done absolutely NOTHING to better this country. He has made ALL situations worst than what was handed over to him. THE PROOF AND FACTS SUPPORT THIS!!

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#1.13 - Wed May 23, 2012 6:49 AM EDT

hungrymongoose no that's not what scares me. What scares me is that anyone in the 99% would think that it's in their best economic interest to vote Republican. Obama has done a great job considering the no raising taxes pledged(Grover Norquist) tea partiers he's had to deal with in congress. In whose interest is it to deregulate wall street and corporations? Does any thinking person really believe wall st. will dutifully regulate itself? hahaha. Whose advantage is it to remove collective bargaining rights? The wealthy! Not the average teacher, fireman, policeman, middle class person trying to take care of their family and put their kids through school. Whos advantage is it to pledge to no matter what, never raise taxes on the 1%? Why do any of the 99% buy into that? Ahh, social issues. Abortion, Gay marriage, planned parenthood, gun control. Just know republicans, that if you support Rep. candidates, unless you are filthy rich it's not in your best interest economically. Morally has got to be the appeal. And that is wrong too. But should be a different issue.

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#1.14 - Wed May 23, 2012 6:56 AM EDT

Fuzzy-0457 an apt name for you. What the hell are you talking about Obama hiding anything? Hiding what? You state the proof and the facts support this but you don't say any facts or proofs or even what the hell you are talking about. Your post is hereby discounted totally!

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#1.15 - Wed May 23, 2012 7:02 AM EDT

I think fuzzy is earning his name. I wish people would stop the making up of such ignorant tales. Obama doesn't need to clear his name. The only thing we don't know about him is the size of his underwear. Every class he has attended, every friend or person he has ever met has been scrutizined.I think every breath he has ever taken has been analyzed and I am sure they are furious because they haven't come up with one tiny little bit of anything to truthfully criticize him for. So they have to make up and imply and infer and just plain lie. Wouldn't it be nice if this had happened to Miss Sarah Palin before she was selected to ruin her party. Meanwhile the teaparty crud is creeping in little by little to take over the republican party and they are letting them. In our state at least the representative had enough sense to be nominated and then quit so more crud couldn't get in at least our state. I think the republicans should check out their party and get their stuff in order before they even start to criticize the Democrats and what they stand for and do. And Ryan is the second worse, maybe 3rd worse Romney could select. The first being Newt Gingrich, the second or maybe first would be Sarah Palin and then you get to others but Ryan will try to destroy everything that doesn't fit with his rich boy scheme. I don't know if he was born rich but he sure acts like it. He doesn't think the rest of us deserve anything or are his equal? We are whether he likes it or not! And I don't expect one thing for free. I paid for my social security and some rich thug shouldn't take it away.

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#1.16 - Wed May 23, 2012 7:13 AM EDT

"We face not just a failed president, but a failed ideology. We face a pessimistic mood in the nation's capital. A belief that our best days are over and the only thing left to do is to manage the nation's decline,” Ryan told the nearly 1,000-person crowd at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library. “But, we have the same opportunity today to reject this defeatist attitude and to embrace a positive reform agenda possible to kick start a new era of prosperity, an American renewal, a comeback.”

Wow...it's deja vu all over again. I could have sworn he was talking about Dubbya.

“What I see in Mitt Romney are the kind of tools, the kind of skills, the kind of character and attributes you need in a leader. He makes decisions. He doesn’t pander. And so what I see is a person who understands the moment our country is facing and a person who is willing to do what it takes to get us out of the path we are on and back on a path to prosperity,” Ryan said.

Mitt Romney is a tool alright. He doesn't pander???? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Quit running your mouth Ryan, and get to work. The good citizens of Wisconsin are not paying you to campaign for Romney.

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#1.17 - Wed May 23, 2012 7:17 AM EDT

What I want to know is why the GOP is so obsessed with the word failure. Remember Limbaugh yelling yes I want him to fail. But guess what he didn't. No matter how hard they tried the lockedstep party of h no didn't make him fail. They wanted the car companies to fail, the banks to fail. Our country to fail. To start from scratch of course. Well I am glad that the country and President Obama had something else in mind and it wasn't failure. Go Obama! You are a great president and deserve to be elected handily in the fall! Just think if McCain had been elected and we would be in the midst of everything failing. Now that was a plan wasn't it? I prefer success no matter which yardstick you use to measure it.

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#1.18 - Wed May 23, 2012 7:19 AM EDT

I truly hope Mitt picks Paul Ryan for his VP, that's sure to alienate many moderates and throw the victory to Obama in November.

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#1.19 - Wed May 23, 2012 7:22 AM EDT

to MtMike: I guess you don't know what extremists are either. It is extreme when you say you want to uphold the Constitution but you don't know what is in it and you pick and choose what you want to uphold. Like in AZ you want to stop and illegally search anyone you decide to. That is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Then you whine when you don't get your way. Our Constitutiion also says we are free to practice our religion. But again you guys pick and choose and say no you have to practice my religion. We may not like that but it is also UNCONSTITUTIONAL. But the radical right don't care. It is extreme when you refuse to work with someone because your extreme goal is to make the president a one term president. It is extremely stupid! It is extreme when you have an agenda and you WILL NOT BUDGE FROM THAT AGENDA! Because you were sent there to complete a mission. No you were sent there to do your job and do what is best for theWHOLE COUNTRY.Not just the few who bought and paid for you usually from another state! Everything the teabaggers do is extreme. We are not an extreme country as least not yet. And Scott Walker look at him! He is an extremist who decided to lie to get elected and immediately he tried to extremely change the way his state worked and then the extremists are still lying about what is happening in the state and an extreme amount of money is pouring in from extremists who want to change the state against the states will. Out side money and influence should be banned except extremists won't allow it. Everything you guys do is extreme. And some in America are too stupid to see the message you guys don't send but do when you get elected. We have some problems in this country regarding money going to people who do not work for many reasons which include disability, pensions and many other services. We do need things like retiree ages being raised if the person involved is still healthy and able. But what many don't realize is that the age people are living may be being raised but their quality of life especially the mental part isn't. We need cooperation and intelligence to solve these issues. We don't need extreme cuts from people who haven't a clue what they are even talking about because they are too busy trying to get their extreme agenda through. Many of these people have worked their entires lives and thought they could enjoy what they have paid for but now some extremists think it is too expensive we can't do that now. Every single paycheck I earned nearly my entire adult life had deducted from it social security and medicare and whatever else needed deducted. I didn't whine but i do expect for some people like Ryan to keep their stingy mitts off of it. My brother also did the same but he died at age 60 and never collected 1 penny. He didn't whine either. Ryan may have been blessed with rich parents etc but some of us weren't. That doesn't mean we do not deserve what we more than paid for. Maybe one qualification for representing our country is that you have to work for what you get so you know what people you represent go through. We don't all live off our interest on our fortune that we did nothing to get.

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#1.20 - Wed May 23, 2012 7:43 AM EDT

Ryan is a worm so desperate for VP he's hiding in Mitt's outhouse waiting for the flip flopper to show up so he can kiss Romney Butt !

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#1.21 - Wed May 23, 2012 7:57 AM EDT

He says Obama's policies are failed policies, but how come the housing market is starting to bounce back? The rate of unemployment is still going down? Why is the President for the people and his apponents are still for the rich? Trickle down has never worked. PERIOD.

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#1.22 - Wed May 23, 2012 8:20 AM EDT

"What I see in Mitt Romney are the kind of tools, the kind of skills, the kind of character and attributes you need in a leader. He makes decisions. He doesn't pander. And so what I see is a person who understands the moment our country is facing and a person who is willing to do what it takes to get us out of the path we are on and back on a path to prosperity," Ryan said.

What? Are you kidding me? "Romney makes decisions"??. You mean Mr. Etch-a-sketch is decisive? Nope. Wrong.

Romney "doesn't pander"? Well, blow me down. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Romney panders like hell. This is quite obvious to anyone still above ground with a brain.

Paul Ryan is a hack. He's doing exactly what his corporate masters tell him to. Corporate masters like the Koch Brothers, who are seeking to sell this country down the river.

I just wonder how many people in that audience are getting snowed under by the Republican war machine. Probably most. How sad that so many brainwashed people are walking around believing the garbage these cynical slugs are throwing at them. Sadly, too many.

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#1.23 - Wed May 23, 2012 8:38 AM EDT

Ahhh, Paul Ryan, chief of the Conservative Clown Posse! Since the conservatives have done absolutely nothing to help this country regain it's footing after causing the meltdown and socialization of our economy (back when the Conservatives had the White House), why is he promoting failed policies of the past as better than Obama's? Answer: So the Conservatives and 1%er's can have power and put more of your money in their pocket! Don't believe me? How about privatizing retirement in the casino Wall Street? After all, the odds favor the "house" and the "house" is not in business to lose money (especially when they can turn to the taxpayer for a bailout). If you think your retirement money is more safe or better off with JP Morgan, think again! This from a party that vilifies teachers, police forces, fire fighters, garbage collectors, secretaries, and other public employees as overpaid, over-pensioned, under-educated, under-performing, worthless, useless, slacking, good-for-nothing union thugs, that should have their salaries, pensions, and other benefits cut, so that he may keep more of your money for himself. You need to ask only one question. "If they have the solutions for the current economic troubles then where are the jobs the Conservatives ran on and promised in 2010 during the mid-term elections?" Remember they were all about jobs, and they were going to create, jobs, jobs, jobs! By their own admission, the employment rate is staggering but rather than accept accountability for their own inactions they'd rather just blame Obama!

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#1.24 - Wed May 23, 2012 8:55 AM EDT

Does Paul Ryan remind you of anyone more than that cheesy "investment advisor" who stole your favorite aunt's retirement?

It's because that's who he is.

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#1.25 - Wed May 23, 2012 8:57 AM EDT
Comment author avatarFuzzy-0457Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

ktlin-2021409 cruiseson

Typical Liberals, who think with their mouths, because they have no intelligence. Putting people down makes you feel real big, because you haven't got the intelligence to rebuttal with any substance or thought.

Just remember, "It is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are stupid, then to open your mouth and confirm it". This goes out to ALL you Ignorant Liberals!!

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#1.26 - Wed May 23, 2012 8:57 AM EDT

Paul Ryan is a hypocritical lunatic. Cut spending my ass, what we really mean is just move it all to Defense.

And by Defense we mean increases to military spending by decreases to VA hospitals.

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#1.27 - Wed May 23, 2012 9:09 AM EDT

Yeah, I remember how respectful the Democrats were toward Bush. They never once said they wanted Bush to become a one-term president. They never said his policies were wrong-headed. They never once called him Hitler. And there was never a movie about a presidential assassination during the Bush administration. They never asked for an indictment of Bush as a war criminal. Who are you trying to kid? Democrats invented incivility with Ted Kennedy.

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#1.28 - Wed May 23, 2012 9:13 AM EDT

They never said his policies were wrong-headed.

Are you seriously implying they were wrong in that assertion?

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#1.29 - Wed May 23, 2012 9:17 AM EDT

Fuzzy, no one is putting YOU down. We are putting down your incorrect assessment of the situation. Obama has been more forthcoming than most presidents. He has provided more info than Romney about his taxes, for example. And, do tell, what is Romney's foreign policy approach?? He wants us to wait until he's in office to outline it for us. That is not very transparent or honest. How the heck are we supposed to judge him as a candidate? And why does he rarely talk about his time as governor?

I also thought it was very interesting how Romney reacted to the accusations about the hazing incident in high school. While others remembered it clearly, he couldn't. He should've acknowledged it immediately, apologized, and moved on. Instead, it makes people scratch their heads and wonder what else he's trying to hide. When one hears about this incident (which is probably not an isolated one), the dog-on-the-roof thing (probably not a one-time thing either), his comments like "I like to fire people" and "Let Detroit go bankrupt", a picture of a person lacking compassion for others emerges. To me, Romney has the "look" of a president but not the heart of one. He pales in comparison to Obama.

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#1.30 - Wed May 23, 2012 9:17 AM EDT

You know, there are problem creators and there are problem solvers. You are either part of the problem, or part of the solution. Facts, no matter how bad you hate them, still exist, and they are there for everyone to see.

Zimbabwe happened people. Look it up. We are on the same path. Romney can and wants to fix it. Obama wants to worsen the problem, as he has continued to further ruin every day he's been in office.

Now, the big question is, when the debates start getting heated this fall, are you going to believe the B.S. that if we hadn't spent all that money, things would have been a lot worse, or are you going to believe the truth that our country has a spending (too much) and a lack of an economic expansion ---- problem?

Do you know what inflation means? Please educate yourself.

Again, if your house is on fire you do everything you can to put it out immediately, right? While your house is burning, you don't argue about who started it, right?

(It's just sad to say, it appears there are more people arguing these days [backing Obama], than there are trying to stop the inferno.)

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#1.31 - Wed May 23, 2012 10:07 AM EDT

'Brian'- Free speech is American. That includes freedom to criticize a sitting president's policies- Yes. And we're to conclude that you consider $5+ trillion of added national debt in three and a half years and ALL the ongoing dreary economic realities an INCLINE of America? Keep telling yourself that, 'Brian' -in denial. Your statement was nonsense. Paul Ryan, himself, is head and shoulders above more honorable a man than the deceiptful divider-in-chief Obama.

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#1.32 - Wed May 23, 2012 10:21 AM EDT

I don't see the need to bash the President, his record speaks for itself and I believe in respecting the office enought to let people decide what they think, especially for a publice figure. I feel the same about Mitt Romney, as a potential President.

I know the Republican agenda is to coax people with "no tax increases" while giving huge tax breaks to the rich. I see this as a better alternative than our current policy of running up huge debt for my kids and future grandkids to have to burden, I don't see how any right minded person can hate their children enough to make them pay for these outlandish deficits, end of discussion!

    #1.33 - Wed May 23, 2012 10:23 AM EDT

    Why does a true statement bother the left so bad?

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    #1.34 - Wed May 23, 2012 10:28 AM EDT

    Perhaps we should sit back and take a look at Paul Ryans accomplishments in Congress................................................. does anyone know of any?

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    #1.35 - Wed May 23, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

    TO: MtMike-571674 who wrote:

    "Paul Ryan, excellent choice, someone who cares about the future of America, has a plan, and is fiscally responsible!..."

    Where the evidence of that? Republicans ONLY call names, but I'd bet 99.9% of Republicans don't have any clue what's IN the "Ryan Plan" and those of us who do don't like it one bit, unless you're wealthy!

    I don't know how Republican Followers could be anymore gullible! Someone tells you they have "Plan" and whoopie, that's it! You don't bother to find out what it's about?

    If you, the Republicans, and Paul Ryan call giving more and more tax cuts to the rich a "Plan" well that's the same freaking "Plan" AND THE ONLY "PLAN" Republicans ever had.

    Obama/Biden 2012

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    #1.36 - Wed May 23, 2012 10:44 AM EDT

    -you wouldn't know a true statement if it bit you on the ass and eventually, it will. And then you'll blame liberals for your own stupidity.

    rukidding47

    No one feels comfortable with Obama in the white house.

    The economy will continue to tank with him and Pelosi and Harry with any control at all. They have no idea what they are doing or should be doing.

    It is way past time for a change.

    This social experiment has to stop. It is destroying America. Wake up Liberals and get a clue for once.

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    #1.37 - Wed May 23, 2012 10:45 AM EDT

    TO: rukidding47 who wrote:

    "Why does a true statement bother the left so bad?"

    Why don't you share your purported "true statement" and you'd probably get a whole bunch of answers.

    I tell you what "bothers" me when Republicans claim a falsehood is "true", first of all, "truth" according to Republicans is "selective", they ONLY believe what they want to believe and it surely doesn't have to be "true" OR "factual". Republicans have also been busy for the past 3-1/2 years trying to rewrite history because their past is so f'd up, that is to say that Republicans know they have a horrible past, so they want to lie about it to cover up all of the Republicans' FAILURES.

    Secondly, Republicans have a very real and a serious reputation for being big time liars and rather than try to repair their reputation after Bush told all those big lies, Republicans have only become even more constant in their lies.

    Obama/Biden 2012

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    #1.38 - Wed May 23, 2012 10:49 AM EDT

    American Girl, I think that selective claim of truths can be said for both Lefties and Righties, ppl only hear and beleive what the are told to believe.

    What i'm wondering is why Democrats bring up the name Bush so often, what is the deal? He is gone, President Obama knew what he was getting himself into, JUST DEAL WITH IT AND QUIT BLAMING BUSH!

    I'm independant and believe me there is nothing more frustrating than hearing "BLAME BUSH FOR THIS" , sheesh!! sounds like a bunch of kindergartners!!

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    #1.39 - Wed May 23, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

    @ RUKidding

    That is all BS. Liberal scare tactics and fear mongering. It is a tired old strategy and only fools will give you a moments thought.

    If you vote Republican your life will not end. It will however have a meaning for a change.

    wrong yet again. A fool would be some damned idiot who is willing to vote against his own best interests and in favor of policies that have been driving us towards 3rd world nation status for 3 decades. A fool who be some ignorant arrogant troll who thinks for some unfathomable reason that he is smarter than the people who are trying to reverse his own massive FUs

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    #1.40 - Wed May 23, 2012 10:59 AM EDT

    TO: sirie who wrote:

    "I don't see the need to bash the President, his record speaks for itself ...I feel the same about Mitt Romney ... I know the Republican agenda is to coax people with "no tax increases" while giving huge tax breaks to the rich... I see this as a better ... than ... running up huge debt for my kids and future grandkids ..."

    I agree that President Obama's record speaks for itself which I think is incredibly successful in light of Republicans who promised us nothing but failures, but Mitt Romney has a lousy record and rather than try to explain the circumstances behind Romney's past failures, Romney just comes out with hate speech and name calling, and nothing of substance at all.

    As to our children and grandchildren, I find it absoultely fascinating how some folks can worry so much about what debt, if any, they might be leaving for their family, and yet not give a crap about leaving their family clean drinking water, clean air, healty lands on which to grow their food, and and environment free of toxic pollution!

    I'd have to say that the way some folks don't give a crap about how much they pollute everything, would be much more important to our future generation than any anticipated bills that might remain unpaid!

    Obama/Biden 2012

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    #1.41 - Wed May 23, 2012 10:59 AM EDT

    we bring up the name bush so often because

    1) we're still trying to repair his damage and

    2) the right wingnut trogs keep trying to blame President Obama for his screw-ups.

    If you guys didn't keep trying to re-write history, we wouldn't need to keep reminding you of it. Some of the trolls here still can't admit to what a total failure he was.

    • 13 votes
    #1.42 - Wed May 23, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

    TO: sirie who wrote:

    "...What i'm wondering is why Democrats bring up the name Bush so often, what is the deal? He is gone, President Obama knew what he was getting himself into, JUST DEAL WITH IT AND QUIT BLAMING BUSH!..."

    Just "deal with it" and forget who destroyed the entire United States Economy? When we were hit on 9/11 on Bush's watch, did the American People say to just forget about it and "deal with it"? Hell no.

    It sickens me to see folks so unwilling to accept responsibility for their failures just so they can blame others.

    And it's even harder to "forget" when we have the likes of Mitch McConnell promising us that he's going to force failure on the American People and then sit here and watch him do exactly THAT for the past 3-1/2 years!

    Now you can forget about trying to control my freedom of speech!

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 15 votes
    #1.43 - Wed May 23, 2012 11:08 AM EDT

    sirie

    I don't see the need to bash the President, his record speaks for itself and I believe in respecting the office enought to let people decide what they think, especially for a publice figure. I feel the same about Mitt Romney, as a potential President.

    I know the Republican agenda is to coax people with "no tax increases" while giving huge tax breaks to the rich. I see this as a better alternative than our current policy of running up huge debt for my kids and future grandkids to have to burden, I don't see how any right minded person can hate their children enough to make them pay for these outlandish deficits, end of discussion

    --------------------

    Why do you think givint tax breaks to the wealthy and taking away programs that fund infastructure, healthcare and education while increasing the deficit is a better policy?

    • 8 votes
    #1.44 - Wed May 23, 2012 11:20 AM EDT

    If Obama had a record to run on, he would. But 3.5 years of blaming everyone else for his failure leaves only the ardent Obama supporters still giddy about this disaster. Obama has outsourced his presidency to the likes of Reid and Pelosi, and they failed him. Blame, class warfare, racism, war on women, partisan politics are the Obama legacy. Missing from the Obama stay in the White House is leadership. Obama has divided the nation, he has not lead. Obama has failed, and he has no one to blame but himself. Great leaders overcome the obstacles, they don't as Obama has done, make the obstacles an excuse.

    • 4 votes
    #1.45 - Wed May 23, 2012 11:32 AM EDT

    Jimm - I believe in capitalism, that is why giving tax breaks encourages people to strive for more, rather than waiting for their next government check to arrive. I wouldn't mind giving prgressively lower tax rates on those making more than 1 million, so people would be encouraged to make more money, the more people we have making big money the better IMHO. I really don't see how taxing someone making 2 million a year @ 30% encourages anyone to strive to make more money... why would they?

    As for infastructure, there are many programs such as windmills that I believe actually pay for themselves over time, that would be a great way to put people to work with government programs. Healthcare is what it is, a mess, needing total reform. Taxing the rich higher would not fix that.

    Education -- seems the more we pump into education the lower the average student graduation rate. I blame this on parents, and pumping more money into education will not fix that.

    • 1 vote
    #1.46 - Wed May 23, 2012 11:34 AM EDT

    American Girl -- Laying the blame on the US Economy entirely on Bush is delirious. I'm not a Bush supporter, never voted for either of the Bush politicians, however many factors go into the blame for this economy, many of which are shipping jobs offshore. This is the world economy that we live in, and the more we push US dollars offshore, the less dollars that stay here at home. So my question is, why did Obama want the job if it was such a mess? Didn't he promise to reduce the deficit, bring unemployment below 8%, blah blah blah broken promise after another? If I'm a consultant for a company, and I have the job to turn that company around, do you think the owners would cater to such nonsense as "OH, IT WAS SO BAD THAT I CAN'T FIX IT?" or just fire me????

    • 1 vote
    #1.47 - Wed May 23, 2012 11:45 AM EDT

    I would call Ryan a failed human being but that would require him to be human, which he is not!

    • 7 votes
    #1.48 - Wed May 23, 2012 11:49 AM EDT

    Ryan's plan is terrible, it's full of holes for the Mega Rich !

    • 8 votes
    #1.49 - Wed May 23, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

    @sirie.

    you just made her argument for her.... jobs were shipped off-shores at a high rate because the Bush tax cuts made it super profitable to do so.

    Obama wanted the job so he can make a difference.... unemployment might not be below 8% but at-least were not hemorrhaging jobs anymore and the rate is still going in the right direction.

    Just because he didn't do a perfect job doesn't make rational people want to hand the keys to the party that caused the mess and did everything to stop Obama from fixing it so they can blame it on him.

    • 11 votes
    #1.50 - Wed May 23, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

    TO: Rick-3416939 who wrote:

    "If Obama had a record to run on..."

    When do you suppose Republicans on going to give up on their "talking points" and their effort to brainwash their followers, after Republicans lose the election, I hope.

    President Obama has a record, all of us 99%ers who went through the Republican Depression felt what President Obama did for us, we know how hard President Obama has worked for us, and we will repay him in November with our votes.

    So it seems Republicans are campaigning on "remember your talking points, and don't forget the hate speech" because Republicans haven't done a damn thing in the last 3-1/2 years that they can brag about, unless they want to remind their followers that Republicans Promised to Force Failure on America and the American People, and that is the ONLY thing Republicans have done!

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 9 votes
    #1.51 - Wed May 23, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

    TO: sirie who wrote:

    "American Girl -- Laying the blame on the US Economy entirely on Bush is delirious..."

    Why, because Bush wasn't President of the United States, Bush wasn't in charge after all, maybe because Bush wasn't "The Decider" he said he was?

    Bush was SUCH a LOUSY president that he made it easy for the First Black President to get elected.

    President Obama has done a lot to fix the mess Bush made, but because Republicans planned to force failure on America and American People, and because Republicans did everything in their power to stall our Recovery, it's just taken a bit longer to accomplish.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 9 votes
    #1.52 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

    Congressman Paul Ryan is the one that is a failure. It is unpatriotic to have such disrespect of ANY sitting President. And how can a christian back a mormon for the highest office? Ryan has sold out his faith and will sell out the country. The gop are a bunch of hypocrits. They would rather elect a white mormon than a more qualified white/black christian.

    • 11 votes
    #1.53 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

    Ryan is a minion. Just like the rest of the unethical, unhonorable gop. The only thing he has not obstructed is the Koch bros. sex organs from entering his head and butt. No different than McConnell and Beohner. Truly the most unhonorable people to walk american soil let alone capitol hill. As the gop gets more desperate, and they will, we can expect the worse from them ethicaly. With the shame the gop has laid on this country for the last DECADE, why would any reasonable thinking american even consider voting for ANY republican? They have NOTHING to base even a basic foundation on and idiots still carry their water. Unbelievable. Obama is the best thing to hit the white house in ages. TRULY... a GREAT leader. PROVEN at this point. I'll vote for hope and change again till we get it.

    • 4 votes
    #1.54 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:35 PM EDT

    Bush did this, Bush did that.... is that all you got? I think it is nap time for the children here...

    • 3 votes
    #1.55 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:36 PM EDT

    It just amazes me how what politicians really think just comes pouring out of their mouths and they don't even realize it.

    America in decline! - Who are the terrible people who say that? Republicans!

    Look at all that debt! - do they really think that most Americans don't realize where the debt came from. Lost revenues since the great recession began in 2008, and that doesn't even mention programs, wars, medicare, and tax rebates that weren't paid for in the last presidency.

    And what's that famous Ayn Rand novel they keep quoting - do they not realize that when they complain about the horrible middle class living off government - that we don't realize they want to get rid of the middle class.

    There's a new generation out there - and they are actually becoming smart enough to realize what is left unsaid whenever these politicians open their mouths.

    • 6 votes
    #1.56 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:50 PM EDT

    According to the American-Girl Obama has a record to run on, but since he isn't that must be news to him. Maybe someone should point out to Obama how successful he has been so he can blow his own horn. So far all Obama has been doing on the campaign trail is attacking and blaming (for the past 3.5 years actually), which seems to indicate he is either out of touch with his record of success, or he has none.

    Such as Obama cutting the deficit in half by the end of his first term. Well no. Obama closed Gitmo. Well no. Obama brought the troops home. Well no. The Obama stimulus worked with all those shovel ready jobs. Well no. Obama kept the unemployment rate under 8%. Well no. Green energy investments have paid off for Obama. Well no. Just like the energizer bunny, the list of Obama failures just keeps going and going and going and...

    Wait lets be fair. Obama has run the largest annual deficits in US history. Not sure that is worth touting. Obama did take over 1/6 of the US economy with a new healthcare entitlement that has only needed roughly 1500 waivers and special exemptions. Not sure that is worth touting. Obama has added 6 trillion to our national debt. Not sure that is worth touting. Obama's golf game has improved. Now there is a solid reason to re-elect him.

    Maybe American-Girl can fill in all the blanks?

    • 3 votes
    #1.57 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

    And before someone gets upset at the Mormon issue. Check out the doctrine of the Catholic church vs the Mormon Church. Mormons have always wanted to establish a theocracy in America, always. It's in their leader's teachings. Enough said.

    The Vatican might want to establish a world theocracy, but their doctrine does NOT support it. That's why they had to hide it for so long from the people, by denying them access to Bibles. They were controlling them, but not by Christ's approval.......

    • 3 votes
    #1.58 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

    Paul Ryan is an outstanding American. Rather than run from the difficult discussion he is willing to have the discussion on budget, social security and medicare, and our debt. You Democrats can choose to run away from the hard choice but failing to make those choices does not mean the choice won't be made for you by China.

    This is what leadership looks like. No wonder you Democrats hate him so much.

    • 2 votes
    #1.59 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:37 PM EDT

    No doubt, Obama leads the Democratic Party of no solutions. Apparently the Obama supporters feel this country can just tax, borrow, print, and spend its way to prosperity. Talk about a what is in it for me attitude. No concern for the future generations that will have to shoulder the burden of the most irresponsible class of people to ever attain power in this country. Keep sending the same people to Washington but expecting different results, and yet the voters can't seem to figure out what the problem is with that recipe.

    • 2 votes
    #1.60 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

    TO: Rick-3416939 who wrote:

    "...Maybe American-Girl can fill in all the blanks?"

    Ha! I gave up talking to knuckleheads.

    The way I see it, the only thing Republicans are going to do is to continue to call people names, and continue on with their hate speech because Republicans have completely worn out that "more tax cuts for the rich" B.S.

    November is coming soon enough, and we'll see then if the American People fall for Republicans Bull____, or if the American People prefer a man of substance, and I think you know which way I'm leaning.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 5 votes
    #1.61 - Wed May 23, 2012 3:51 PM EDT

    Here's the problem with Ryan's plan and Romney's economic program, both introduce austerity measures without increasing revenue, quite simply if implemented the economy would return to recession. There are still over 100 trillion dollars of highly overvalued home mortgage still on the books, 55 trillion of that was transferred from non FDCI insured accounts onto Bank of America's FDIC insured ledger last fall at the insistence of Bernake of the FED. By returning the economy to a recessionary cycle there can be an expected continuation of the foreclosure crisis, that continuation would result in the transference of those obligations onto the federal budget. The republicans are complaining about the deficit increase over the last 3 years and 5 months, just wait until that 55 trillion is added. They have blamed Obama as if he were totally the blame and none of their shenanigans over the last 3 years has had any impact on the economy, hell they won't even acknowledge that most of that increase is the result of the failed presidency of George Bush who left office with two wars still raging that were unpaid for and that he cut taxes in time of war. I could go on but the stupidity of the republican talking points are just so blatantly without merit that it begs the question of "do they really think we're a bunch of suckers" to follow them down the primrose path of trickle down economics? That Freidmanite myth has trickled out.

    • 4 votes
    #1.62 - Wed May 23, 2012 3:51 PM EDT

    TO: sirie who wrote:

    "Bush did this, Bush did that..."

    Enough already!

    If you don't want to hear what people have to say about the worse president in the history of the United States, THEN QUIT BRINGING HIM UP!

    • 3 votes
    #1.63 - Wed May 23, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

    TO: Rick-3416939 who wrote:

    "No doubt, Obama leads the Democratic Party of no solutions..."

    You call "more tax cuts for the rich" a solution? I guess you're blind to the FACT that Republican "Trickle Down Economics" NEVER "trickled down" and still Republicans call for their same old failed policies of the past, which is what got us into this mess in the first place, and then wonder why everybody calls them "stupid".

    Hell, Republicans did that same crap 100 times before and all it did was make everything worse.

    Get a clue, would ya!

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 3 votes
    #1.64 - Wed May 23, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

    "Americans have always rejected those with nothing to offer but cynicism and the politics of division."

    This is why Americans are going to reject the Republicks. Get ready for an ass kickin, birthers. The mountains of debt are all Republican. Shrub Jr. doubled the debt, took a surplus, (intended to pay down the debt and remember the Social Security lockbox Shrub boy wouldn't entertain) and turned it into a deficit. Add the de-regulated Wall Street depression, which I believe Republicks saw as an opportunity to pin on the next President they knew would be Democratic (because everyone, and I mean everyone, saw what a mess The republicks had made), too bad they didn't time it quite right. This sent many Republicks into "decline to state" independents, who now claim "both parties are to blame". The tea baggers didn't even exist when the debt was being created. The Shrub tax cuts are slated to cost 7 trillion in the next decade, so says the CBO. How much have all the tax cuts cost already? Just look to the quote from Ryan, to see the cynicism and division, they've already created. Class warfare has indeed been go'in on and the tycoons are winning.

    For thirty plus years the Republicks have peed on middle class Americans and told them it's rainin.

    • 2 votes
    #1.65 - Wed May 23, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

    Ryan is not a hero, he is a bully with the panel of bullies called the young guns behind him. He doesn't have courage, he has a posse of goons who take on the poor, children and the elderly. Cory Booker is, by way of proving a distinction, a hero. He ran into a burning building to save a woman. Vote for the guy who knows more words, Obama/Biden 2012!

    • 2 votes
    #1.66 - Wed May 23, 2012 5:35 PM EDT

    Paul Ryan....I remember you..

    for the 1%:

    http://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/2012/03/ryan_response.html

    I WILL NOT, forget this one..

    nor should anyone else.

    • 2 votes
    #1.67 - Wed May 23, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

    Seems to me that republican president Bush was a failure also..but ..guess Ryan and other republicans see him as being a great one..just have to wonder just what he was great at doing...other than helping put this country into a huge debt and cost also thousands of jobs per month with his tax cuts for his rich friends...Republicans are no l;onger the party for the people..they are a great party however for their wealthy friends....which Ryan is a member of.

    • 1 vote
    #1.68 - Wed May 23, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

    "We face not just a failed president, but a failed ideology. We face a pessimistic mood in the nation's capital. A belief that our best days are over and the only thing left to do is to manage the nation's decline,” Ryan told the nearly 1,000-person crowd at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library. “But, we have the same opportunity today to reject this defeatist attitude and to embrace a positive reform agenda possible to kick start a new era of prosperity, an American renewal, a comeback.”

    What the @!$%#??? What "failed ideology???" Is it the same ideology says that tax cuts for the rich will lead to prosperity and that the poor are lazy and should not have a safety net???? Is it the same ideology that we have used for 30 years, which caused this very recession??? Ryan, I always knew you were a right-wing loon, but this is just a bunch of lies. Obama is NOT a failed president; his stimulus saved the economy and helped put millions back to work. He has led the nation in over two years of positive job and economic growth, his policies have made America more respected in the world, and he has actually reduced federal spending, a fact looked over or ignored by many conservatives. And YOUR policies, Mr. Ryan??? You propose a simple mash of tax cuts that will be both expensive and ineffective and spending cuts that will disproportionately affect the poor and the middle class. How does that lead to a path to prosperity??? Your budget's name is an oxymoron. The Ryan budget would increase the deficit thanks to your stupid tax cuts, and I don't think a tax break at the end of the year will compensate for reduced social services for the poor and the middle class. @!$%# you, Ryan. You and your right-wing idiots have sent this country to the brink of disaster, and when a Democrat saves the economy you just can't stand it. I'm not gonna let you bastards send this country over the cliff; not now, not ever.

    I know the Republican agenda is to coax people with "no tax increases" while giving huge tax breaks to the rich. I see this as a better alternative than our current policy of running up huge debt for my kids and future grandkids to have to burden, I don't see how any right minded person can hate their children enough to make them pay for these outlandish deficits, end of discussion!

    Okay, sirrie, I will respect your opinion, but how the hell would cutting taxes for people be a better alternative for running up huge debt??? Cutting taxes would cause higher deficits and debt, how can you not believe that??? And how could you make the poor and the middle class pay for these outlandish tax cuts via massive spending cuts, not only for this generation but for generations to come????

    sirie

    Jimm - I believe in capitalism, that is why giving tax breaks encourages people to strive for more, rather than waiting for their next government check to arrive. I wouldn't mind giving prgressively lower tax rates on those making more than 1 million, so people would be encouraged to make more money, the more people we have making big money the better IMHO. I really don't see how taxing someone making 2 million a year @ 30% encourages anyone to strive to make more money... why would they?

    Ugh, sirrie, don't you know that a tax cut return from the government is a government check??? And since when has tax rates encouraged real economic growth that benefits everybody??? We have tried cutting taxes for 30 years, and that did NOTHING. It ballooned our debt, increased income inequality, and led to the stagnation of the middle class??? Under your reasoning, lower tax rates will make everything better. Hell, why shouldn't we just lower top rates to 20%. Then maybe 15%. Or 10%??? We had top tax rates of 90% during the 1950s, and we were prospering!!! The rich weren't discouraged; hell, they were in the best shape since the Roaring Twenties! Face it; not only to tax cuts not encourage equal economic growth, but they lead to higher deficits, higher economic inequality rates, and stunted economic growth. Tax cuts don't work anymore. Might as well just cancel the Bush tax rates (hope they expire in December) and let everyone pay Clinton rates.

    Rational AmeriCAN

    Paul Ryan is an outstanding American. Rather than run from the difficult discussion he is willing to have the discussion on budget, social security and medicare, and our debt. You Democrats can choose to run away from the hard choice but failing to make those choices does not mean the choice won't be made for you by China.

    Are you @!$%#ing kidding me???? Paul Ryan is a waste of a congressman!!! That guy isn't having a discussion on our fiscal matters; he's just throwing a red meat budget and just wants to score political points. Instead of reforming SS and Medicare, he privatizes the latter and makes huge cuts to the former. He does NOTHING to fix our bloated defense budget; he doesn't even address the fact that our tax code is costing the government money!!! He throws a massive tax cut to the wealthy, shoves massive and unnecessary budget cuts down the throat of the small guy, and DESTROYS our safety net. He won't even raise revenues!!! And yet he bitches about how the Democrats aren't passing his budget!! Why would Democrats pass a budget that has no compromise???? And before you say they should negotiate, keep in mind that the entire Republican Party is beholden to Grover @!$%#ing Norquist's no-tax pledge. @!$%# Ryan; @!$%# Romney; @!$%# the GOP. Enough is enough.

    OBAMA BIDEN 2012

    • 2 votes
    #1.69 - Wed May 23, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

    MtMike-571674

    Excellent comment at Post #1.4

    But I guess it was too much truth for the liberals - thus an unwarranted 'collapse'.

    • 1 vote
    #1.70 - Wed May 23, 2012 9:41 PM EDT

    "We face not just a failed president, but a failed ideology. We face a pessimistic mood in the nation's capital. A belief that our best days are over and the only thing left to do is to manage the nation's decline,”..."Americans have always rejected those with nothing to offer but cynicism and the politics of division."

    Ryan has a flair for speaking profound truths. It must drive the liberals crazy.

    • 2 votes
    #1.71 - Wed May 23, 2012 9:44 PM EDT

    It also drives mainstream crazy that this Rep.Paul Ryan's answer is to slash all entitlements and have no tax revenue to help pay back this massive debt which was accelerated with two unfunded wars and tax breaks going on at the same time and then your up and coming Republican hero doesn't accept the waist of money that your Republican George Bush tallied up but put's the whole blame on Obama's accelerated debt from the last 3 years!! Oh but, in 2008 we didn't know what we now no as The Great Bush Depression, a modern day version of it!!

    • 2 votes
    #1.72 - Thu May 24, 2012 12:04 AM EDT

    It's a good thing Paul Ryan had Social Security survivors benefits to pay for his college...otherwise how would he have achieved the education required to achieve his position in life? We'd have all been deprived of finding out there's a "moral obligation" to make sure no one ever again has access to those opportunities.

    Paul Ryan...not just a liar, not just a hypocrite, but so much more.

    • 1 vote
    #1.73 - Thu May 24, 2012 8:43 AM EDT

    So American-Girl I didn't expect you to offer up the Obama successes since there are none. No solutions to the country's problems means Obama has no record to run on, or he would. But you keep spewing the same old lame Democratic talking points as Obama supporters can be fooled all of the time, but the rest of the nation is just not that gullible.

    • 1 vote
    #1.74 - Thu May 24, 2012 8:47 AM EDT

    I know the Republican agenda is to coax people with "no tax increases" while giving huge tax breaks to the rich. I see this as a better alternative than our current policy of running up huge debt for my kids and future grandkids to have to burden, I don't see how any right minded person can hate their children enough to make them pay for these outlandish deficits, end of discussion!

    Sirie, with all due respect, where the hell do you think the Bush deficit came from?

    The two primary sources of the current deficit are Bush's unfunded wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and his tax cuts.

    Cutting taxes for the rich was supposedly justified because they are the 'job creators' but as the past decade has proved, that's just bunk. The rich don't create jobs. Consumerism drives the American economy, and we're in the doldrums because the majority of consumers--the middle class-- cannot afford to participate. Everyone benefits when we have a thriving middle class. The GOP is on course to kill the goose that laid the golden egg, the middle class consumer.

    As for the tax cuts to the rich, they have benefited the one percenters while depriving the federal treasury of much-needed funds. It's reverse Robinhoodism, robbing the poor to give to the rich. Why should the rich pay a lower tax rate than the poor and the middle class? Don't be fooled by that failed 'trickle down' B.S. It clearly doesn't work.

    Open your eyes and quit being a pawn of the one percent. You're giving away your children's future to a bunch of selfish vultures that will destroy this country with their failed ideology, IF WE LET THEM.

    • 2 votes
    #1.75 - Thu May 24, 2012 9:17 AM EDT

    Freshiee who wrote:

    Are you @!$%#ing kidding me???? Paul Ryan is a waste of a congressman!!! That guy isn't having a discussion on our fiscal matters; he's just throwing a red meat budget and just wants to score political points. Instead of reforming SS and Medicare, he privatizes the latter and makes huge cuts to the former.

    AS opposed to the Obama budget proposals that have received how many votes from his own party - zero.

    You can bury your head in the sand if you want to but we spend 100% of our revenue on three things:

    1. Medicare/Medicaid
    2. Social Security
    3. Defense

    We spend major chunks on servicing the debt, paying government pensions, and welfare and these make up the entire deficit.

    So there are six buckets to cut from. One is not an option - interest on the debt. So which of the 5 do you cut?

    Medicare/Medicaid is not fully funded, never has been. They tax the employee 1.45% and the employer 1.45%. Yet it is the biggest expense to our government. This costs us $820 Billion a year.

    Social Security (FICA) is taxed at 6.2% for individuals and 6.2% for employers (however, Obama believes we should underfund it faster by reducing it to 4.2% for individuals in 2011 and now 2012. In a normal year this costs us $720 Billion a year.

    Defense is about $710 Billion.

    Welfare is about $410 Billion

    Interest on the debt is $400 Billion.

    Federal Pensions is $250 Billion.

    Our revenue is $2.2 Trillion and our spending is $3.4 Trillion. The deficit is $1.2 trillion a year give or take.

    The Internal Revenue service takes in $1.8 Trillion in taxes from individuals and the rest from corporations and excise taxes.

    So you tell me Freshiee - what should we do? Cut, raise taxes or both? I advocate both. But understand this, to balance the budget requires a revenue increase of 67%. That's 67% of the money coming out of the economy in the hands of consumers and giving it to the government to distribute. Do you advocate that kind of an increase? I doubt even you are that stupid.

    So my dear friend who is now caught in the conundrum, where do you cut? And by how much?

    So Ryan has offered a plan. It may not be a good plan. It is certainly not a popular plan. But it is a plan. A plan whose merits may be debated and improved or compromised upon. Where is Obama's plan? Where is Harry Reid's plan? Why won't they engage the Ryan plan and have a debate? What are they afraid of?

    The Republicans and especially Ryan have their big boy pants on, Freshiee. They are tired of kicking the can down the road to our children and grandchildren. I know I am. You can hate on Ryan all you want, but you cannot offer a better plan at this time because you Democrats have nothing but fear to spread among the mindless.

    • 1 vote
    #1.76 - Thu May 24, 2012 11:27 AM EDT

    www.usdebtclock.org if you want actual numbers to supplement above post since I did it from memory.

    Actuals:

    • Medicare $830 B
    • Social Sec $742 B
    • Defense $692 B
    • Income Security (Welfare) $381 B
    • Interest $225 B
    • Pensions $215 B

    There, learned my lesson to not use my memory.

    • 1 vote
    #1.77 - Thu May 24, 2012 11:32 AM EDT

    Do you ever wonder why companies don't want to stay in the US?

    The Federal Payroll tax generates$800 Billion in revenue just for the right to employ Americans!

    Corporate taxes by contrast only generate $176 Billion in revenue.

      #1.78 - Thu May 24, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

      AS opposed to the Obama budget proposals that have received how many votes from his own party - zero.

      You can bury your head in the sand if you want to but we spend 100% of our revenue on three things:

      1. Medicare/Medicaid
      2. Social Security
      3. Defense

      Not necessarily. We don't know whether tax dollars or borrowed money go into defense or entitlements. For all we know, the social services are all taxpayer money and defense and some of entitlements are borrowed money.

      We spend major chunks on servicing the debt, paying government pensions, and welfare and these make up the entire deficit.

      Partially false. Welfare is technically less than 10% of the budget, matched by 27% from defense and the rest from general government, entitlements, and interest. The vast majority of our debt is caused by the recession and the Bush tax cuts. Take a look at a REAL chart.

      So there are six buckets to cut from. One is not an option - interest on the debt. So which of the 5 do you cut?

      Medicare/Medicaid is not fully funded, never has been. They tax the employee 1.45% and the employer 1.45%. Yet it is the biggest expense to our government. This costs us $820 Billion a year.

      I would most likely advise raising the Medicare/Medicaid tax from 1.45% to 5.8% apiece. That would quadruple the revenues that both programs get.

      Social Security (FICA) is taxed at 6.2% for individuals and 6.2% for employers (however, Obama believes we should underfund it faster by reducing it to 4.2% for individuals in 2011 and now 2012. In a normal year this costs us $720 Billion a year.

      CORRECTION: Obama only wanted to cut the payroll tax so that the economy could grow, as the CBO estimated that not passing the payroll tax cut would cost about 1% of GDP growth. I would most likely set the rate at 15.1%, above the normal 12.4% rate. I would also implement progressive indexing, adjust COLA, raise the payroll cap to 90% of all income earned, increase the estate tax to estates over $1.5 trillion, and tax benefits. That would cover the entire shortfall plus a lot left over, enabling us to cover much of the Medicare/Medicaid shortfall if there is one.

      Defense is about $710 Billion.

      Welfare is about $410 Billion

      Interest on the debt is $400 Billion.

      Federal Pensions is $250 Billion.

      Actually, the defense budget for 2012 was $902 billion, the welfare budget was $450 billion, and pensions in roughly $820 billion.

      Our revenue is $2.2 Trillion and our spending is $3.4 Trillion. The deficit is $1.2 trillion a year give or take.

      Actually the federal government spends roughly $3.8 trillion and makes roughly $2.45 trillion. The deficit for 2012 is $1.33 trillion, roughly.

      The Internal Revenue service takes in $1.8 Trillion in taxes from individuals and the rest from corporations and excise taxes.

      So you tell me Freshiee - what should we do? Cut, raise taxes or both? I advocate both. But understand this, to balance the budget requires a revenue increase of 67%. That's 67% of the money coming out of the economy in the hands of consumers and giving it to the government to distribute. Do you advocate that kind of an increase? I doubt even you are that stupid.

      Here is MY plan. I would do all of the things for entitlements that I showed above, freeze welfare payments for the next 5 years, reduce military spending by roughly $700 billion over the next 10 years, reduce tax expenditures by $500 billion a year (http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=2662), convert half of the remainder into refundable tax credits and keep the remainder as deductions, end the Bush tax cuts for everyone but save $1.5 trillion for the middle class, saving approximately $2.3 trillion over the next decade, and end the freeze on government pay but increase their contributions to pensions by 3%. In addition, I would cut non-defense discretionary spending by approximately $1 trillion over the next decade. The savings would be approximately $9 trillion over ten years, minus the savings from reforming welfare, entitlements, and federal pensions.

      So my dear friend who is now caught in the conundrum, where do you cut? And by how much?

      See above.

      So Ryan has offered a plan. It may not be a good plan. It is certainly not a popular plan. But it is a plan. A plan whose merits may be debated and improved or compromised upon. Where is Obama's plan? Where is Harry Reid's plan? Why won't they engage the Ryan plan and have a debate? What are they afraid of?

      The Republicans and especially Ryan have their big boy pants on, Freshiee. They are tired of kicking the can down the road to our children and grandchildren. I know I am. You can hate on Ryan all you want, but you cannot offer a better plan at this time because you Democrats have nothing but fear to spread among the mindless.

      Actually, Obama had a plan; the "Grand Bargain," which outlined $2.8 trillion in spending cuts and $1.2 trillion in revenues over the next 10 to 12 years. Unfortunately, the Republicans turned that down because it had revenues, which would violate their no-tax pledge of allegiance to Grover Norquist. As for the rest of the Democratic Party, there are several budgets that you have not heard of. Most of them have never passed the House, or even been proposed. But there are still Democratic deficit plans. Personally, they are much more realistic than that garbled red meat budget proposed by Ryan. Check these budgets:

      http://crfb.org/compare/

      http://nationalpriorities.org/en/analysis/2012/competing-visions/

      http://grijalva.house.gov/uploads/The_CPC_FY2012_Budget.pdf

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/economy/reform

      OBAMA BIDEN 2012

      • 2 votes
      #1.79 - Thu May 24, 2012 6:58 PM EDT

      Freshiee,

      Arguing which dollars spent are borrowed and which are not is foolish and made it impossible to continue reading your drivel.

      Rat

      • 1 vote
      #1.80 - Tue May 29, 2012 8:24 AM EDT
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      Comment author avatarEbony Nyugavia Facebook

      Assuming that Mitt Romney has already won the Republican nomination?

        Reply#3 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:28 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarChristofer C. Bellvia Facebook

        Um, yeah? Can you point to anything that even remotely indicates he won't be the nominee?

        • 1 vote
        #3.1 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:46 AM EDT

        The "RightWingWackos" will destroy this Nation !

        • 7 votes
        #3.2 - Wed May 23, 2012 8:23 AM EDT

        Ryan....your #1 plan, is to turn Medicare, into a voucher system, wont work with the People:

        http://www.dpcc.senate.gov/?p=issue&id=69

        How do you think, the people will feel, or do you care?

        • 1 vote
        #3.3 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:32 PM EDT
        Reply

        Ryan is nothing more than a two-bit politcal hack, bought and paid for by the highest right wing bidder. Or as they put it,

        "The best that money can buy"!!!!

        Obama/Biden 2012

        • 19 votes
        Reply#4 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:29 AM EDT

        A "Failed" Presidency??? As compared to what? The Rousing Success of the GW Bush Presidency?

        • 26 votes
        #5 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:31 AM EDT

        Should have added "a failed Congress".

        • 11 votes
        #5.1 - Wed May 23, 2012 3:29 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarFuzzy-0457Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        At least Bush turned the country over to Obama in better condition than what Obama has turned America into. A WELFARE NATION! No new business, No Employment, Rotten Economy, Refuses to be a self sustaining energy nation that would also create thousands and thousands of JOBS! Destroying small business due to increase in regulations and more costly to do business with tax code and insurances. Obama has done everything in his power to divide this country, which he has successfully done. Unemployment was under 7.6 %, deficit was approx. $9 trillion dollars, Congress was aware of the 2 wars, Democrats had control of Congress in 2006-2010, etc,. etc. Obama has increased the unemployment considerably to over 9% fraudulent figures. 2.2 million claims 2 weeks ago were put under disability category instead of unemployment. Actual unemployment figures are over 22% with paid out claims, people that are out still looking for a job, people that have given up looking for a job. Deficit at over $16 Trillion dollars, Over 42 COMMUNIST czars hired by Obama and by-passed Congress. Congress has NO leadership from Obama as well as neither party working for the good of all Americans. Both parties are only looking out for themselves. Entire Democratic party and Republicans BOTH struck Obama down on his so called Budget. Obama has already been written up by some historians as being the worst president even below Carter in some categories. Pretty pathetic these liberal sheep cannot comprehend ACTUAL Data and political news about how terrible our country is in. Liberals ONLY know how to put people down by using vulgarity, false information, disputing the truths without stating their comments with facts. Only use the "Blame Bush, Fault" or "Race Card". refuses to assume responsibility for their own actions, same as Obama. The list goes on and on with these liberals not wanting to solve the problems, but being the problem. America cannot advance, without ALL Americans coming to grip and solving the problems together. If we don't work together, the citizens are the ones that lose out, not the politicians or government workers. Our future is very bleak after reading the nonsense from a lot of people.

          #5.2 - Wed May 23, 2012 8:07 AM EDT

          you are soooooo deluded

          • 12 votes
          #5.3 - Wed May 23, 2012 8:28 AM EDT

          At least Bush turned the country over to Obama in better condition than what Obama has turned America into

          I have heard some crazy sh!t spewed on this website, but this may take the cake as the most ridiculous statement EVER, and that compared to Trayvon Martin deserved.

          No wonder the 10 dumbest congressmen are republicans, their voters wouldn't understand them if they talked at an 11th grade level.

          • 17 votes
          #5.4 - Wed May 23, 2012 9:07 AM EDT

          Fuzzy, it's time to turn off Rush, Beck, Hannity, etc. You are obviously spending too much time listening to one-sided "news" sources. Bush turned over the country to Obama in horrible shape, and it got worse before it started to recover because of the serious problems that were already there--housing market collapse, etc. These problems were not caused or exacerbated by Obama; he has done whatever he could to address them, and we're improving on all fronts (housing, employment, Wall Street, etc.). The recovery has been slow and imperfect, but it takes time to bounce back from such a deep recession. Stop lying about Obama's presidency!

          • 15 votes
          #5.5 - Wed May 23, 2012 9:28 AM EDT

          Ryan's plan would be pushing old lady's over the cliff, forcing the poor to eat dog food and let the middle class die in the streets so the 1% get tax cuts, kick this dirtbag out of America !

          • 9 votes
          #5.6 - Wed May 23, 2012 9:35 AM EDT

          If you want to see why the gop, romney and especially ryan are so wrong with their ideology go watch Nick Hanauer on youtube ...WAKE UP..

          • 5 votes
          #5.7 - Wed May 23, 2012 10:46 AM EDT

          Fuzzy-0457

          At least Bush turned the country over to Obama in better condition than what Obama has turned America into. A WELFARE NATION! No new business, No Employment, Rotten Economy, Refuses to be a self sustaining energy nation that would also create thousands and thousands of JOBS! Destroying small business due to increase in regulations and more costly to do business with tax code and insurances.

          --------------------

          Really? The stats don't really back up your nonsense.

          • 6 votes
          #5.8 - Wed May 23, 2012 11:24 AM EDT
          Fuzzy,
          1. Government spending is lower than when President Obama took office.
          2. Government deficits are lower than when President Obama took office.
          3. Federal Taxes are lower than when President Obama took office.
          4. Private sector jobs have gone up for 27 consecutive months (all during President Obamas term)
          5. Government employment as a percentage of the population is lower than when President Obama took office.
          6. As of 5-20-12- "Chicago (CNN) -- NATO leaders signed off Monday on President Barack Obama's exit strategy from Afghanistan that calls for an end to combat operations next year and the withdrawal of the U.S.-led international military force by the end of 2014."

          Any more questions?

          • 11 votes
          #5.9 - Wed May 23, 2012 11:55 AM EDT

          "Fuzzy's Bull is running Out of steam"

          • 6 votes
          #5.10 - Wed May 23, 2012 12:18 PM EDT

          Fussy you are hands down the biggest moron I've ever heard aside from the misunderestimated GWBushleague of course.

          You know what a failure is Paul Ryan's grip on reality.

          Economy is turning around and the republitards are reaching for anything at this point.

          • 8 votes
          #5.11 - Wed May 23, 2012 12:22 PM EDT

          Fuzzy, you project too much.

          "At least Bush turned the country over to Obama in better condition than what Obama has turned America into. A WELFARE NATION!"
          Welfare increased under Bush Administration at a higher rate than under Obama Administration.

          "No new business, No Employment, Rotten Economy, Refuses to be a self sustaining energy nation that would also create thousands and thousands of JOBS!"
          What are you talking about? The pipeline? The job creation was grossly overestimated by a factor of over 100. And they were only temporary jobs. The number of drilling permits are at an all time high. They were increased dramatically (and in my opinion recklessly) under Obama.

          "Destroying small business due to increase in regulations and more costly to do business with tax code and insurances."

          Regulations have not increased. Taxes have gone down for small businesses. You are a dishonest, ignoramus.

          "Obama has done everything in his power to divide this country, which he has successfully done."
          More projection from the far right, radical extremists. The Republican Party functions by dividing the country as much as possible. Conservatives have always used that strategy to gain power.

          "Unemployment was under 7.6 %"
          LIE! It was over 8% when Obama was sworn in.

          "deficit was approx. $9 trillion dollars"
          LIE!
          You don't know the difference is between deficit and debt, do you? The DEBT was $10.627T when Obama was sworn in. It is $15.722T now. That is a $5.1T difference and an increase of 48%.
          Reagan increased the debt by 187% (nearly tripled it).
          Bush SR increased it by 55%.
          Bush JR increased it by 86% (nearly doubled it).
          Carter increased it by 46%.
          Clinton increased it by 40%
          Who has the better record on debt? That would be Democrats.

          Bush inherited a $270B surplus and left Obama a $1.2T deficit.
          Under the Obama Administration, the deficit as a percentage of GDP has gone down. It skyrocketed up under Bush.

          "Deficit at over $16 Trillion dollars"
          $15.722T is not over $16T. And once again, you don't know the difference between deficit and debt.

          "Over 42 COMMUNIST czars hired by Obama and by-passed Congress"
          What makes them communists? The "title" czar was first used by Nixon (a republican). Bush Jr. had the same number of "czars" as Obama. Bypassed Congress?
          Number of recess appointments by president
          Reagan - 243
          Bush Sr. - 77
          Clinton - 139
          Bush Jr. - 171
          Obama - 29

          You sir, are a dishonest, ignoramus. You are also a liar.

          "Pretty pathetic these liberal sheep cannot comprehend ACTUAL Data and political news"
          Projection. Pure projection.

          "Liberals ONLY know how to put people down by using vulgarity, false information, disputing the truths without stating their comments with facts. Only use the "Blame Bush, Fault" or "Race Card". refuses to assume responsibility for their own actions, same as Obama. The list goes on and on with these liberals not wanting to solve the problems, but being the problem."

          More projection.

          "America cannot advance, without ALL Americans coming to grip and solving the problems together. If we don't work together, the citizens are the ones that lose out, not the politicians or government workers. Our future is very bleak after reading the nonsense from a lot of people."

          Yes. A lot of people like YOU!

          • 8 votes
          #5.13 - Wed May 23, 2012 12:29 PM EDT

          At least Bush turned the country over to Obama in better condition than what Obama has turned America into.

          What on earth are you smoking? Try looking at FACTS.

          Job losses per month in January 2008: 700,000

          Job gains last month: 120,000

          25 straight months of private sector gob growth

          GDP growth in 2008: negative 6%

          GDP growth last year 2.9%

          Dow Jones Average in January 2008: Under 8000

          Dow Jones Average today: 13,000+

          Record domestic oil production

          GM – all time record profits

          Near record corporate profits across the board

          Osama Bin Laden --- dead

          Iraq war --- over

          • 4 votes
          #5.14 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

          Liberals. Believe what you want. It is useless and a waste of time with uneducated, hot headed, tunnel vision idiots like you. You have made your bed so lie in it. This is why America is heading down the path like Germany did. You will think differently when YOU are in one of the FEMA Camps.

          • 1 vote
          #5.15 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:50 PM EDT

          vwterry

          There's only one more item I would like to see added to the list and hope to see before he leaves office, a complete and total withdrawal from Afghanistan. It is not our responsibility to 'build them up" they lived in a crapbucket before we got there, they'll live in one again five years after we leave. Afghanistan broke the Soviet empire, we need to leave before it does the same to us.

          • 1 vote
          #5.16 - Wed May 23, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

          Fuzzy, you're projecting again!

          "Liberals. Believe what you want."

          You believe what you hear on Fox News, conservative radio, and OTHER right wing, wackjob, propaganda outlets. And what's with the "Liberals" hate? All you conservatives talk as though liberals are evil and the word "liberal" is a dirty word. The teabaggers are even doing it to the word "moderate" now. You are despicable people, a disgrace to humanity.

          "It is useless and a waste of time with uneducated, hot headed, tunnel vision idiots like you."

          Us "liberals" are more educated than you. Hot-headed? Ever listen to Breitbart, Hannity, O'Reilly, Beck, or Limbaugh? I've seen teabaggers stomp on "liberals" heads, spit on "liberals", and so on. I don't see "liberals" do that. It's just more projection on your part.

          "This is why America is heading down the path like Germany did."

          Really? In what way?

          "You will think differently when YOU are in one of the FEMA Camps."

          Really? FEMA camps? You STILL believe that propaganda? You are a sad, lost cause!

          • 2 votes
          #5.17 - Wed May 23, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

          Oh, and I forgot about this zingerfrom Fuzzy:

          "Liberals ONLY know how to put people down by using vulgarity, false information, disputing the truths without stating their comments with facts"

          And then in your next post:

          "It is useless and a waste of time with uneducated, hot headed, tunnel vision idiots like you."

          and

          "This is why America is heading down the path like Germany did. You will think differently when YOU are in one of the FEMA Camps."

          Fuzzy, all you do is project. Unbelievable.

          • 1 vote
          #5.18 - Wed May 23, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

          Obama's accelerated debt was due to The Great Bush Depression and it takes some time to dig out of the mess.

          • 2 votes
          #5.19 - Thu May 24, 2012 12:11 AM EDT
          Reply

          If Ryan feels Obama is a failed President what is he - a bought politician who wants to brings harm to the poor, especially poor women, and is beholding to special interests who thrive on an idiology of greed. Ryan is in his own world and does not have a heart or mind to serve the 350 million Americans who now need stewardship from sane men and women of compassion and vision. To suggest that Obama is responsible for a growing debt that has to sustain half of it from the Bush tax cuts to the rich is as vin and false as all of Ryan's failed belief in America as a bipartisian goal directed society for all. Ryan's failure is in his humanity, Obama's failure is in his decency trying to accommodate the desires of a self-centered Republican culture totaly focused upon heisting the nation's wealth to its most privielged few - the famous 1% of shame and greed. Sail on Ryan because you have sold your soul - you parents are the ones needing pity rigt now, not the country.

          • 18 votes
          Reply#6 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:31 AM EDT

          This WAR that Bush lied about and got us into caused and IS causing massive deficits. I guess deficits dont matter when it comes to war (it is one of the BIGGEST sources of WELFARE for the rich). Obama had done a good job with the deficit, considering our country was going under. We are not completely out of the woods yet and people want to RETURN to what we HAD? Stockholders will deserve whats coming to them if republicons get control. I have noticed when you debate with them, they always blame the poor who are lazy of course and wont work. The Nazi tactic (they blamed the Jews) is working well all over again. The suffering by the poor...is DIRECTLY caused by polices of past politicians. They exported their jobs and took away their livlihood. Now they are TAUGHT to HATE them. There are a lot of Nazis in THIS country apparantly.

          • 13 votes
          #6.1 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:17 AM EDT

          Plus The Great Bush Depression

          • 2 votes
          #6.2 - Thu May 24, 2012 12:13 AM EDT
          Reply

          OMG - a Republican calling President Obama 'a failed president'? I thought that was a mandate for club membership.

          • 10 votes
          Reply#7 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:32 AM EDT

          Wrong Again Ryan (his new nickname). President Obama saved this country from total collapse after George Bush's illegal wars and brain dead policies which Ryan enthusiastically voted for. Ryan for VP would be the same as choosing Palin. Good looking but no brains.

          • 21 votes
          Reply#8 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:35 AM EDT

          but Obama's stick out further, I mean he could be Dumbo's wingman.

          • 2 votes
          #8.2 - Wed May 23, 2012 4:20 PM EDT
          Reply

          The media got obama ellected and they are doing everything they can to save face. He was the worst option at the worst possible moment in american history and we are paying dearly.

          • 3 votes
          Reply#9 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:35 AM EDT

          Lt. - Why? With no facts your statements mean nothing.

          • 13 votes
          #9.1 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:47 AM EDT

          facts speak for themselves. when its glaringly obvious its hardly worth rehashing what everyone already knows.

          • 2 votes
          #9.2 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:51 AM EDT

          Again, what facts "speak for themselves?" Not everyone, including myself, watches Fox News. You need to educate me on these "facts."

          • 10 votes
          #9.3 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:35 AM EDT

          You need to educate yourself, Mr. bill before sluggo obama pulls your shirt over your head and strangles you with it.

          Be responsible enough to rid yourself of your own ignorance.

          vote

          • 2 votes
          #9.4 - Wed May 23, 2012 6:31 AM EDT

          Ideas about what you are talking about are dangling in the wind ....or gas.

          • 2 votes
          #9.5 - Wed May 23, 2012 7:13 AM EDT

          "The media got obama ellected"

          It's time you clowns stop blaming the media for everything you don't like. President Obama won in 2008 because the economy was in the tank after 8 years of Bush. He won in 2008 because the nation was fed up with big government republicans, big spending republicans, big religion republicans. He won in 2008 because John McCain had no idea of what was going on (The fundamentals of the economy are sound) He won in 2008 because the Republican VP pick had even less of a clue than McCain. The media is NOT your problem. Your problem is conservatives haven't had a new idea for more than 30 years. Your problem is the foundation of your economic philosophy -- tax cuts for the rich create jobs -- is WRONG. Your problem is you do everything you can to drive everyone except old white guys out of your party. Your biggest problem is you don't even know what your problem is. I'll give you a clue --- it's NOT the media.

          • 16 votes
          #9.6 - Wed May 23, 2012 7:36 AM EDT

          Charlie--word.

          I could not agree more with you, especially the reasons for Obama's win in 2008. Unfortunately, Romney is an even weaker candidate than McCain--at least McCain had sacrificed for his country and had served admirably in the government (often crossing the aisle to get things done). I say "unfortunately" because he could get elected, and Republicans have not put forth their best candidate this year. And I love how people like Ryan think they are going to get the independents' votes by dissing Obama, whom most of us voted for last time around. Show us some real ways that Romney could do a better job, give us some details of how he'll stop the war in Afghanistan, show us how he will govern. So far, I don't like what I see, and I'd rather stick with what I know (Obama) than what I don't know (Romney).

          • 8 votes
          #9.7 - Wed May 23, 2012 10:58 AM EDT

          Classic. A "leader" of a republican house which has accomplished absolutely nothing since gaining the majority in 2010. This guy certainly has a LOT of credibility.

          • 5 votes
          #9.8 - Wed May 23, 2012 11:26 AM EDT

          TO: Lt.J.dangle who wrote:

          "The media got obama elected and they are doing everything they can to save face..."

          Actually, I would give more credit to George "Curveball" Bush for helping to get President Obama elected than I would give the press.

          Obama/Biden 2012

          • 4 votes
          #9.9 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

          @Lt.J.dangle

          Actually the worst option at the worst time in history took place in 2000 when the Supreme Court decided against Al Gore.

          • 3 votes
          #9.10 - Wed May 23, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

          TO: Steve C-526943 who wrote:

          "@Lt.J.dangle Actually the worst option at the worst time in history took place in 2000 when the Supreme Court decided against Al Gore."

          And the Supreme Court was wrong. After re-counting all of the ballots all over the State of Florida, Al Gore did, in fact, have more votes than George "Curveball" Bush got.

          • 4 votes
          #9.11 - Wed May 23, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

          American Girl,

          Just goes to show what happens when running the country is a family business.

          • 2 votes
          #9.12 - Thu May 24, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

          And they're trying to do it again. The current purge list being worked by the corrupt government of Florida has 180,000 voters who may or may not be legal...

          Who really cares, since time after time they target groups that vote heavily Democratic.

          • 1 vote
          #9.13 - Fri May 25, 2012 5:20 PM EDT
          Reply

          And yet the pessimism seems to be coming almost entirely from the GOP? 27 straight months of positive job creation as opposed to going straight downhill...mmm that's bad. Foreclosures down....bad too. Health care costs increasing at lower rate than in 10 yrs...also bad. Increase in federal spending under Obama's watch..1.4 percent. What, they prefer the 8.1 increase under bush's last term? Nothing is good enough for these guys and all the problems will be solved if we just go back to the 8 yrs of economic and foreign policies we had under Bush. this time it will work, eh?

          • 18 votes
          Reply#10 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:51 AM EDT

          you have a knack for PR, your turd polishing skills are highly sought after.

          • 1 vote
          #10.1 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:57 AM EDT

          Here is a link to the BLS site just follow the instructions to see a table of the number of EMPLOYED people from Jan. 2002 to April 2012. Now you count how many months in a row that the number of EMPLOYED people increased. I'll give you a hint. It is less than 2! Just the month on April 2012 is LESS than the month of March 2012. Now if we have had 27 straight months of job growth would the number of employed people increase for 27 straight months?

          Here are the numbers.

          March 2012---142,034,000

          April 2012-----141,865,000

          How about other months?

          March 2011---139,764,000

          April 2011-----139,628,000

          That doesn't look like job growth to me.

          http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?bls
          Click on Civilian Employment (Seasonally Adjusted) - LNS12000000
          Scroll to bottom and click Retreive Data for the Chart

          • 1 vote
          #10.2 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:00 AM EDT

          oh i see, you only get to count job growth if each month is higher than the other? We were bleeding jobs under Bush, losing anywhere from 500 to 700,000 a month. Under Obama, we are creating jobs. But heh, good luck with doing the same thing, that trickle down economics thing that has NEVER worked. you know what they say the definition of insanity is, slodon.

          • 15 votes
          #10.3 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:16 AM EDT

          Yep Sherry, and the president is totally responsible for everything the country is experiencing.

          • 1 vote
          #10.4 - Wed May 23, 2012 7:15 AM EDT

          sherry

          Doesn't GROWTH mean an INCREASE?

          Here is another way to look at it. I employ 5 people in Dec. 2008. I lay off 2 in Jan. 2009. I rehire 2 in April 2012. Now are those CREATED JOBS or just filling OLD JOBS? Now if I hire 3 people I fill two OLD JOBS and CREATED 1 NEW one. SEE HOW IT WORKS???

            #10.5 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

            You can't count a government job as job growth. Only in private sector which these figures are not!

              #10.6 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

              The fact FUZZY WUZZY, is that the government has reduced its job force since Obama took office, not increased it. This has happened through natural attrition. What Obama has done with the stimulus was save many state and municipal jobs, policemen. firefighters, teachers, etc. Your post is inaccuarate.

                #10.7 - Fri May 25, 2012 9:20 AM EDT
                Reply

                So, this young nothing thinks we should get back on the track we had when Bush left office? After all, people lost their jobs AND their homes. And Romney, the corporate RAIDER (another word for corporate THIEF), caused many MORE to lose their jobs. The middle class has been devastated by BOTH of the thieves.

                Are Americans so stupid that they would vote to go back to this? If so, we deserve EVERYTHING we have coming to us.

                Since we have little left from which they can steal, stockholders are next. SOMEONE has to part with their money...so it can be shifted to the rich.

                • 12 votes
                Reply#11 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:57 AM EDT

                Gee I still see people working at Dominoes,Staples,Burger King,Toys'R'Us,Dunken Donuts,Warner Music Weather Channel and Hospital Corporation of America. Just to name a few of the Companies that are in existence because of Bain Capitol. Looks like just a few 10's of thousands still have their jobs.

                • 1 vote
                #11.1 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:11 AM EDT

                Slodon: It's Bain Capital (with an "a"), not a government edifice. And those companies are still with us because they downsized their workforce, changed their manangement structure and reduced benefits to their employees.

                • 6 votes
                #11.2 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:41 AM EDT

                Yeh and another of Mittseys economic mastery choices would have been to let the American Auto Manufacturers go bankrupt rather that bolster them up like Pres. Obama did thus saving and creating thousands of American jobs, not to mention strengthening the confidence and belief in our country.

                • 6 votes
                #11.3 - Wed May 23, 2012 7:21 AM EDT

                Just to name a few of the Companies that are in existence because of Bain Capitol. Looks like just a few 10's of thousands still have their jobs.

                Yep -- Dominoes,Staples,Burger King,Toys'R'Us,Dunken Donuts --- lots of minimum wage jobs with no benefits.

                • 13 votes
                #11.4 - Wed May 23, 2012 7:39 AM EDT
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                Why do Paul Ryan and the rest of the Tea Party love to talk about how America's best days are behind us and how we're on a permanent decline?

                I understand they hate America (as it is today). They'd rather get back to the 1950's or 1850's or 1750's so women/minorities/gays would annoy them by voting/having civil rights/getting political power, but you'd think somewhere they'd get a little patriotic sentiment and be able to say "ok, America doesn't suck THAT much." But they just can't do it.

                • 16 votes
                Reply#12 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:06 AM EDT

                The 2 party system is failing us again. We have to vote on the least of 2 evils. Obama is in my opinion, not even to be considered rated as a fair quality president. But I can't necassairly consider him to be the best either. I am a republican (not a tea bagger). If they had solen the tea from gov't warehouses that they dropped in the rivers, then I would have given them a little more credibility,( after all the boston tea party used 'stolen tea.)As for romney as president, that will lead to ,in my opinion , a total collapse of our gov't, especiall if ryan is the vice . president. Either elect a congress that co-operates with the president or a president that co-operates with the congress.I think better results would be achievedby changing the congress.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#13 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:07 AM EDT

                carl - could not have said it better myself. The false dichotomy of political parties encourages the gridlock that has a stranglehold on our political process since the advent of the 24/7 news cycle.

                Compromise, i.e., finding middle ground on issues to provide the most good for the most people, is what this nation was founded on. The my way or the highway mentality that permeates our congressional activities is poison for our republic.

                • 1 vote
                #13.1 - Wed May 23, 2012 9:46 AM EDT
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                Paul Ryan and his Republican sycophants think that if they just make enough ridiculous statements, contrary to fact, that their minions and tea party supporters will believe everything they say. Republicans have done nothing but block every attempt by President Obama to drag the country out of the disastrous Bush years. It is absolutely clear that they have no agenda, no plan for running the country and the government other than their stated goal of defeating the President. Their goal is power and nothing else. They whine about the deficit but vote to increase Pentagon spending that the Pentagon doesn't want or need. They've never met a war they didn't like, no matter what the human and monetary cost. U.S. infrastructure is falling apart, our spending on education continues to decline, and the Republicans can do nothing but scream about the need for more tax cuts and more religion. What a pathetic, morally bankrupt political party.

                • 17 votes
                Reply#14 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:12 AM EDT

                gosh I used spell check but it never saved my changes ????????

                  Reply#15 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:15 AM EDT

                  So Mitt is going to swoop in and save the country, what does he wear a cape with blue tights & a big M on the chest now? Jeesh Paul, ya got a little something brown and kind of smelly on your nose. Give me a break. It is amazing we all aren't overseas fighting wars for former Pres. Bush. At the rate he was going that was going to be the only way to survive, or not. I beg of you to find somebody who, in one term, could clean up the devastation and destruction Bush brought on our nation. I'm sure there will be a lot of Obama haters saying things like, my dog or a rock could have done a better job. Obama has not yet lived up to all of his promises but has there ever been a president who has? No and neither will the man who can open his wallet and cut the national debt in half nor will he be able to bully his way through those of us who may not be in the elite economic class or the perfect, traditional family, as Mitt sees it, class but we are all in Mitt's discrimination class and we are strong. I will remain true to Pres. Obama as he continues his efforts to clean up after Bush, to bring home our troops while still keeping a vigilant watch for threats to our country, as he makes history by recognizing and acting on the fact that GLBT were being denied their basic civil rights and in his other endeavors to make our nation a better place for EVERYbody.

                    Reply#16 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:16 AM EDT

                    He really doesn't pander, taking bribes from superpacs isn't pandering, it's outright graft.

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#17 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:37 AM EDT

                    The real failed president is the one who tried hard to bankrupt the country and left this mess for the Dems to clean up. The GOP continues to prove that they are a failed party, unless, of course, you're in the 1%.

                    • 11 votes
                    Reply#18 - Wed May 23, 2012 2:37 AM EDT

                    To think he is only one of 218 frogs in a wheel barrel.

                    • 3 votes
                    #18.1 - Wed May 23, 2012 3:31 AM EDT
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                    DeMerl, tea party and other republicon minions DO believe EVERYTHING they see and hear from the ACTORS on fox tv and radio. They also believe those nasty propaganda emails sent out CONSTANTLY from one to the other. We have a VERY dangerous situation here. They ACTUALLY blame the poor for all our troubles. They CHOOSE to ignore that it was at the expense of the working poor that their stock went up and up. Money blinds people. They want more and more. Pretty soon, they get good at BLAMING them when it doesnt. Their mentors...tell them this. It worked with the Nazis. Republicons studied the Nazis...and LEARNED WHY so MANY people were swayed to SUPPORT the killing of thousands of Jews. They of course, had been brainwashed for many years before they actually did the murders to believe that ALL economic troubles...were because of the Jews. In THIS case, they blame the POOR.

                    So you see disgust...every day from someone..saying we have ALL these problems because half the people dont work and pay taxes. Actually, you are seeing them put to death now. The ones who cannot afford healthcare are DYING because they cannot afford treatment. And you know, it is FINE with people who have healthcare. It is one of the WORST things I have ever seen in my life...to see people DYING because they have NO health insurance. We should ALL be beating on the doors of congressmen DEMANDING that something be done. But I see people not only SILENT...like the Germans....but think it is OKAY...because...they are swallowing the German propaganda...fed to them day and night.

                    We have a very dangerous situation here. Some people see what is REALLY happening and feel helpless to do anything about it. We are truly on the edge of a cliff.

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#19 - Wed May 23, 2012 3:04 AM EDT

                    You poor witless bastards could have had Hilliary, but NOOOOOOO! SUCKERS!

                      Reply#20 - Wed May 23, 2012 3:07 AM EDT

                      Hillary would have been a much, much better choice...but then again so would have picking a name out of a hat, or a dart at a phonebook, choosing a random grid co-ordinate and making the closest person President, or...you get the point

                      • 4 votes
                      #20.1 - Wed May 23, 2012 3:31 AM EDT

                      Wow. I suspect we could have had one of 218 frogs as well huh?

                      • 1 vote
                      #20.2 - Wed May 23, 2012 3:33 AM EDT

                      I am really beginning to believe that the RNC and DNC gets together in secret, every 4 years, and has a "Dinner for Schmucks" night and the winner gets to be President...how else could you explain Romney

                      • 5 votes
                      #20.3 - Wed May 23, 2012 3:53 AM EDT

                      Hillary would have been a much, much better choice.

                      She just may be elected in 2016 --- following President Obama's second term.

                      • 3 votes
                      #20.4 - Wed May 23, 2012 1:50 PM EDT
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                      Comment author avatarCraig Fluhartyvia Facebook

                      you seen the tv ad the fist thing mit will do ... forgo any common sense as to the environmental impacts in the placing of a pipeline , hell disasters happen all the time and electing this fake fascism total imposer of some one that really cares. in fact you have to be rich at a special dinner fund raiser to really hear what he is going to do in office . Over heard by some reporters . Iam telling you I can see the horror this piece of george bush clone what to be will do. put all the money in the military so he too can be known as starting a war and making all his buddys richer ... well that gos with out saying in his tax plan . I may sound crazy , but its all a rich take over of the gov so when the world comes knocking with the amerieo or what the hell ever the new currency will be they will be high and dry . and as far as this congress guy gos , guess he will say just about anything and state it to be a fact , its mits logic- the sham dham fake snake oil sales so concealed man if ya could read his mind you yous be scared . he gave a evil look at Barbra Walter in a interview , if ya watch closely ya can see him losing his fake composer ...hahahahahaha is all he mostly says ............AAARRGG HE MAKE ME SICK............... the poser

                      • 6 votes
                      Reply#21 - Wed May 23, 2012 3:17 AM EDT

                      The little "Eddie Munster" Ryan is gonna crap his pants when the GOP loses the House.

                      • 7 votes
                      Reply#22 - Wed May 23, 2012 3:33 AM EDT

                      Dont you just want to take those ugly little glasses and twist them all up? How arrogant can this punk be? I have to admit though, it does not matter WHO republicons put in office. They ALL do the bidding of someone HIGHER. There is NO such thing as deciding for ONESELF what is the right or wrong thing to do. That is ALL done from someone higher. They all think with ONE mind. They all VOICE the same LINES. They are ALL actors on a stage with someone ABOVE pulling every little string...like a puppet. It is just too dangerous to have people like this in office. I dont WANT to be a SLAVE one day to a DICTATOR. We have to vote these vile things out of office.

                      • 1 vote
                      #22.1 - Wed May 23, 2012 9:05 PM EDT
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                      Wait until Team Obama puts the Ryan budget plan again in its sights--he'll be revealed as a heartless liability to the country and his ticket (I hope Romney picks him as his running mate.)

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#23 - Wed May 23, 2012 6:21 AM EDT

                      I wonder if the people Ryan was talking to realize just how badly they would be screwed by Ryan's budget.

                      • 7 votes
                      Reply#24 - Wed May 23, 2012 6:26 AM EDT

                      You need to educate yourself, Mr. bill before sluggo obama pulls your shirt over your head and strangles you with it.
                      Be responsible enough to rid yourself of your own ignorance.
                      vote

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#25 - Wed May 23, 2012 6:36 AM EDT

                      convenientliesyoubelieve I concur, we voted today on the democratic ticket. I believe in ridding yourself of your own ignorance. I hope you are trying it.

                      • 2 votes
                      #25.1 - Wed May 23, 2012 7:33 AM EDT

                      If you want to see why the gop, romney and especially ryan are so wrong with their ideology go watch Nick Hanauer on youtube ...WAKE UP..

                      • 1 vote
                      #25.2 - Wed May 23, 2012 10:48 AM EDT
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                      I believe many of you here are in denial of or don't know who's been awake for awhile. TOO bad some of you do not recognize the family resemblance? Well he's cranky and hungry has a wet diaper.
                      Now! HE IS gonna want a change, something good to eat, and his favorite cartoon just got over so he is going out to play build a world now.
                      His name is The Great American Dream and his destiny is now out of your control.
                      You can play in his sandbox like good little ants, or he will toast you with his magnifying glass.
                      It's all up to you.

                      If you really do not know who im speaking of, just go to North Dakota or Canada you will see him right before your eyes.
                      LQQK,SEE FOR YOURSELF!

                      I vote, 4 nice GIANT

                        Reply#26 - Wed May 23, 2012 6:49 AM EDT
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