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Subscribe to RSSMitt Romney has outlined a bold agenda to spur economic growth and create jobs. On his first day in office, he will approve the Keystone pipeline, introduce pro-growth tax reforms, and repeal Obamacare.
Forget a president's first 100 days. Mitt Romney's first television ad of the general election, "Day One," comes as close as anything in describing the most urgent priorities of a President Romney upon taking office.
The ad is running in five swing states, and the presumptive GOP nominee's campaign is putting $1.3 million behind it; a Spanish-language analog is running in North Carolina, with a much smaller ad buy behind it.
Nonetheless, Romney's ad is meant to drive a three-point plan: 1. Approve the Keystone Pipeline, 2. Introduce tax reform, and 3. Begin dismantling and replacing President Obama's health care law.
In short, Romney's message is about jobs, taxes, energy and health care.
So what do we know about the specifics of Romney's three-point plan?
Keystone -
Republicans, including Romney, have vocally criticized President Obama for rejecting an initial proposal by the TransCanada Corporation to build an oil pipeline through the central United States. The administration rejected the project out of environmental concerns and because it felt Republicans were rushing its approval of the project, at the expense of due diligence. (TransCanada has subsequently re-applied for a permit to build a pipeline along new routes.)
Romney invoking the example is meant to address the issues of jobs and energy.
TransCanada and supporters of the pipeline -- who range from Republicans in Congress to the organized labor community -- contend the project would create at least 20,000 jobs. The project's most ardent supporters claim these, in turn, would lead to additional job creation.
As for energy, it's much more difficult to say what the effect of building the Keystone Pipeline would have on the price of oil. Its mere approval could conceivably diminish speculation that drives up oil prices, but gauging the direct impact is difficult. Moreover, the pipeline would take years to become fully operational and deliver excess supply to gas stations in the U.S.
"Taking advantage of our energy resources is one of my priorities," Romney said Friday in a conference call with supporters. Among his other plans for his first day in office, Romney said he would also allow expanded permits for oil and gas exploration on federal lands. Romney said, for instance, he would authorize drilling on the East Coast's Outer Continental Shelf.
Tax reform -
The centerpiece of Romney's plan would include a permanent, across-the-board reduction of 20 percent for all income tax brackets.
He's also on the record supporting a number of other tax cuts, including maintaining current tax rates on investment income, eliminating the taxes on estates, cutting the corporate tax rate to 25 percent, and repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax, among other reforms.
The impact of these reforms on the rising national debt -- something Romney routinely decries -- is much more opaque, though.
Romney has said eliminating some tax deductions, combined with economic growth and cuts in spending would make the impact of his tax plan deficit-neutral at a minimum.
"One thing I'm also going to to do is work with Congress to limit the deductions and exemptions and special deals that are in our tax code," Romney said on the conference call.
But the former Massachusetts governor hasn't specified the exemptions or deductions he would eliminate beyond a select few (for instance, the mortgage deductions associated with a second home). Romney has previously said that the wealthy might shoulder a greater tax burden under his reforms, though he hasn't said how. (An analysis by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center has suggested that might not be the case.) The Romney campaign also hasn't provided a detailed enough tax plan in order to subject it to static or dynamic scoring of its impact on the deficit and debt.
As for the spending side, Romney's website offers some additional details, but not enough to necessarily account for the total impact of his plan -- either on jobs, or the deficit.
The "issues" section of Romney's website includes an additional "Day One" promise: to send Congress a bill slashing non-defense discretionary spending by five percent across-the-board.
Other parts of Romney's site detail areas he would cut, and the savings associated with each of those cuts. Those savings include the elimination of subsidies to programs like the National Endowment for the Arts, and cuts in subsidies to Amtrak or the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
"There are items that I like that I will stop funding," Romney explained during the call.
Health reform -
Romney's new ad calls for not just the repeal of "ObamaCare," but its replacement, as well.
If part or all of the law were allowed to stand following the Supreme Court's ruling next month, Romney would have some options to undo the law on his first day in office, but they would be limited.
The former Massachusetts governor has said his ultimate goal is to return health care decisions to individual states, and create incentives for more efficient health care delivery.
Romney repeated his promise to issue a waiver to states, allowing them to duck some of the requirements of health care reform that conservatives find most onerous. But many other parts of the law would remain in effect, and would require legislative action to both enact a repeal of ObamaCare and a subsequent replacement. That could conceivably pass the House if it were to remain in Republican control, but unless Republicans were to somehow win a 60-seat majority in the Senate this fall, the GOP would need to attract Democratic support for Romney's alternative.
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There are other things Romney said he would do on his first day, among them labeling China a currency manipulator and putting a hold on regulations enacted by the Obama administration.
Democrats have contested Romney's ad, with the Obama campaign labeling it as full of "empty promises."
"We know why Mitt Romney didn’t keep his promises- his business experience wasn’t in strengthening companies and creating jobs for long-term economic growth. It was in reaping quick profits for himself and his investors at the expense of workers and communities," said Lis Smith, a spokeswoman for the president's re-election. "These are the values that he wants to bring to the White House by giving more budget-busting tax cuts to the wealthy and letting Wall Street write its own rules—the same formula that benefited a few, but crashed our economy and punished the middle class."
A Democratic super PAC, American Bridge 21st Century, also produced a parody ad concluding of Romney's first-day plans: "We'll pass."
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Romney does realize that his presumed "Day One" is a Sunday, doesn't he? Couldn't he at least wait till Day 2?
Why does a super rich guy like Romney want to be President? He already has more than enough.
What else does he want to prove? Just bullying a sensitive gay student in highschool was not enough for him? Having bullied all those employees into losing their jobs so he could make an extra buck is not enough for him? He still wants to bully the entire country also? even bullying the entire world? Just as George W. Bush did!
Have Americans had enough?
A plea to the American people - it is the American people who can make a difference this time. Don't get too drunk in early November and make sure you make your voice heard.
Obama/Biden 2012
Clinton/Clinton 2016
Well, you're certainly aptly named....
"jobs, taxes, energy and health care"... win, win, win and win!
Romney 2012 !
President Harry Truman in 1948: "The Republicans … will try
to make people believe that everything the Government has done for the country
is socialism. They will go to the people and say: "Did you see that social
security check you received the other day—you thought that was good for you,
didn't you? That's just too bad! That's nothing in the world but socialism. Did
you see that new flood control dam the Government is building over there for the
protection of your property? Sorry—that's awful socialism! That new hospital
that they are building is socialism. Price supports, more socialism for the
farmers! Minimum wage laws? Socialism for labor! Socialism is bad for you, my
friend. Everybody knows that. And here you are, with your new car, and your
home, and better opportunities for the kids, and a television set—you are just
surrounded by socialism! Now the Republicans say, 'That's a terrible thing, my
friend, and the only way out of this sinkhole of socialism is to
vote for the
Republican ticket." And that was 64 Years Ago!!!, the republicanCrimeCartel is still doing the same exploitation of people THEY ARE NOTORIUS FOR. Now, according to KingGeorgeTheVacuumBrained, it is called "free market" capitalism; with families in the streets and 21% Unemployment.......
Remember Fellow and Sister Americans: A vote for ANY republicanCrimeCartelSoldier, Rommel, is a vote Against Yours and Your Family's WellBeing
I almost find myself wanting him to win just to see how much more screwed-up Republicans can make this country. There's got to be a new low they can strive for.
Alright so lets summarize his plan.
Help Oil Companies. Help The Rich. Eff the poor and middle class's health.
I almost wanted Obama to win just to see how screwed- up he & the Dems could make the country.
Unfortunately, now we know...
Romney 2012!
Why wait? Ensuring thirty more years of failed supply-side economics policies is far too important.
Truth: you might look a little harder.
End of one war, date for ending the other...an end to Bush's economic insanity and four straight quarters of growth...an end to the absurdity of being the only developed country on the face of the planet without any national health care... and you want ROMNEY...GEORGE ROMNEY...to lead this nation back to the idiocy of the Bush years? As though we didn't know how that turned out.....
well i have to say even if Romney wins (which i have my doubts he will) the democrats will most likely take back congress because of the all time low approval rating they have (13% last time i checked) is portrayed as the GOP's fault because they are the majority in the house.
so even if Romney wins we can buffer the affects (hopefully) to where they aren't as harmful to the middle class
but i have my doubts Romney will win not saying Obama is the greatest is still have a few issues with his policies but voting for other guy just because you want Obama out is just plain dumb
Tax cuts & Reform = Extending Tax cuts for the RICH and Reforming America into a Mormonism cult like state.
End Obamacare? What law is named Obamacare? You mean the Affordable Care act? Didn't your state force mandates upon the people and if I also recall reading that YOUR people and maybe even YOU, Willard "My Dog Loved To Ride On the Roof" Romney met with the President to discuss the Affordable Care Act. Just saying..
Lets see, Day 2: Fire half of the government workers and then sell the agencies to foreign investors through Bain Capital and make millions off the firing of hard working Americans.. Day 3: plan 9/11 Part deux as a reason to invade Iran (you know a sovereign nation, like America).. Day 4: Invade America, start with indoctrinating the youth into the world of Joseph Smith and the Golden Tablets. Day 5: Punch & Cake and with a dance at arms length distance between. Day 6: Its Saturday, Mormons don't work.. Day 7: Church, Yippie, there's the first week.
Week 2: Day 1: No Jobs for America, after-all its NOT the governments job to create jobs.. Gotcha.. Day 2: Funnel monies to Grand Cayman, Cayman Brac and the Pentagon for Israels protection. Day 3: Make gays, lesbians and anyone not like the GOP, illegal. Day 4: Vacation for one month. 6 days on the job is tough work, oh and when Mittens returns, he'll have gray hair and a plan for something..
really his plan is very vaque. i really dosen't say how he's going to create jobs. it just say's how he will take things away from people. one thing is for sure if you cut taxes that much it will bankrupt the country. he will have to kill medicare and social security and that will devestate the senior citizens. and for all of you people who like that idea.....get ready to pay for your parents healthcare and living expenses. after he does that he and the GOP will be out of power for at least 30 years. nobody alive will ever trust them again. just think about it.
Not one of the three items he mentioned will affect the economy right away. Maybe he should just pay the taxes that most american pay for starters. If none of the wealthy cheated on their taxes or held over seas accounts, that would affect the economy far greater than some pipeline that a Canadian company will build anyway. Why would any educated person trust a Mormon? the vast majority of their religion is hidden in secrecy (not to mention misogynist men). The GOP is again bankrupt for talent and we get stuck with a so so POTUS.
It is the Mitt Romney - Double Down on Stupid - plan.
Keystone XL is being constructed - right now - in Oklahoma and in Canada. Pipeline construction has not even been slowed down. Romney can't wait to start sending those profits to Canada, can he?
There are not any idle drilling rigs in US - right now. How is 'selling' oil leases on government land during a drilling glut going to get us a good price? I thought a smart investor understood the principle of buy low - sell high. Oh, yeah, this benefits Romney and screws the rest of us - the number two Republican priority.
Where have we heard tax reform before? Was it the Contract on America? I guess CEOs and stock traders have not been getting bonuses - they only had their compensation packages 'reformed'. Romney is not remodeling his house to install more goodies - he is 'reforming' his house. A pile of stinking crap by any other name is still a Republican plan.
Repeal Obamacare - replace it with Romneycare. Who cares? They are the same dang plans.
Romney, like most 'successful', believe in the magic of being 'rich'. How is Romney going to handle the transition from the Magic Kingdom to the White House?
On his first day in office, which will never happen, Romney would call grover norquist and ask him what to do.
I would dear him to make those changes on Day 1 and if he cannot do it, then he would have to step down and we get to launch a new election. While we are focus on the president, congress is dragging us through the mud and selling us off to the highest bidders. Remember no matter how much you hate a president he can only get a max of two terms. We need to do the same to our congress men and women.
smh -
Plan? You mean he's supposed to have a plan? Oh darn! No one told Mitt! But, he'll say he plans to do whatever the Koch Bros. tell him to do. But, someone will have to write the plan out for him - in very small words so he can say them and not stumble. He's beginning to sound more and more like George Bush - OMG - not again!
Obama/Biden 2012
What we know about his campaign plan is just about the same thing we know about his other plans.
But whatever it is today, check back again tomorrow because by then it will have changed, anyway.
What we know about Romney's campaign plan is just about the same thing we know about his other plans.
But whatever it is today, check back again tomorrow because by then it will have changed, anyway.
What's it tell us? (a) He lies all the time and (b) he wants tax breaks for himself and those in his income bracket, which is his only consistent position.
To anticipate republican liars and morons and their stupid little family analogy: if your family's budget is busted and you have an opportunity to bring in more revenue, you don't turn down the job because it will not solve all your problems immediately.
Complete, total, utter morons; the lot of you.
Plan? You mean he's supposed to have a plan? Oh darn! No one told Obama! But, he'll say he plans to do whatever the George Sorros tells him to do. But, someone will have to write the plan out for him - in very small words so he can say them and not stumble. He's beginning to sound more and more like Jimmy Carter - OMG - not again!
Day One (fictional):
Romney the Bully Goat will bully more gay students by raising their college loan rates, will force more corporations to cut employees, will foreclose more houses when those losing jobs can't make mortgage payments, and will give Wall Street more handouts
Seriously. I only clicked once to post. Sorry about the duplicate.
wb52 - how sad you need to copy someone else's post but, just like Romney, you don't have an original thought. You Republicans are all alike - always want someone else to do the thinking for you!
Obama/Biden 2012
Exactly my thoughts.
The Keystone pipeline is nothing but a ploy for oil companies to make even more money at our environmental expense. But let's pretend it would actually lower prices at the pump in who knows how many years from now -- Is that really the first thing any of us would do on our first day as POTUS? Not.
Every economist and financial guru worth a sh!t has scored Romney's plan as impossible. Tax cuts that severe, in addition to huge increases in defense spending (don't forget, because on day 2 he will start a new war) is in no way sustainable.
And thank you for this reminder. Those who think it's a good idea to get rid of Social Security or Medicare because they don't think it will be there when they get old... I'm really glad my siblings and I didn't have to pay for my father's health problems and my mother's retirement. Most of us are barely getting by thanks to the Republican Depression, so I can't imagine having this financial responsibility as well.
Hahaha, what an idiot Romney is, and anyone scarfing this red meat is a bigger idiot. Now we see why he hasn't wanted to tell us what his plans were until after he was elected. He just wants the red meat crowd to help elect him, and then reality would hit him like a ton of bricks and he'd deny he ever said these things. But I'm not taking any chances...
Obama/Biden - 2012!
Another tin foil hat scholar!
The option to Romney’s plan is more of the same from President Obama
1. $5T of Federal Debt in three years (U.S. Treasure Dept), after he labeled Bush debt ($4.9T in eight years) as a "Failure in Leadership" (Congressional Record).
2. Unemployment over 8% for 40 months despite TRILLIONS of Economic Stimulus that only stimulated the debt. (Bureau of Labor Statistics)
3. Unemployment would be even higher if 8 Million people had not given up finding a job over the last 3 years. (Bureau of Labor Statistics)
Small difference between now and when Obama got voted in back in 2008 is that Obama wasn't facing a incumbent opponent so Obama didn't have a need to show what he would do different very clearly, also the mindset back then was different then now they just wanted someone different then the President who led them into a financial crisis (bush) Now Obama has been in for 3 1/2 years so we know what his policies are (more or less) and now we want to know what Romney will do different then Obama
As of right now Romney doesn't have a clear plan and people want a clear plan and that is hurting him I know its weird but that is how (from my observations) people are thinking today. in 4 years that will change yet again and it will be anyone's guess.
btw back in 2008 the novelty of having a black president appealed to people so that did help Lets face the facts people will vote based on emotions people vote for who they want to vote for the deciding factor is the swing votes where they are susceptible to change their opinions more then solid left or rights
@AP-1414066
An end to the war Obama escalated and a date set by Bush for the other and only kept because Obama failed when he tried to negotiate a longer stay.
Economic insanity? You mean like spend a bunch of money we don't have and then print some more to make up the difference? Ummm, hate to break it to you but that hasn't ended, its accelerated.
Growth so anemic it has been the worst recovery from a recession since the great Depression.
That's come to an end has it? You've heard of the Supreme Court right? You understand that this plan was so over reaching it will likely be declared unconstitutional don't you?
Perhaps you should follow your own advice and look a little harder.
Don't know but perhaps if you read FDR's biography you may find some motivations
I didn't see anything in there about Romney paying any of the United States' bills, or paying down our deficit.
Oh wait, that's right, Republicans don't believe in paying the bills because "deficits don't matter".
I guess Republicans don't consider the interest on that debt a problem either.
Obama/Biden 2012
Where's baracks economic plan? Other than raising taxes on the rich and subsidizing with taxpayer money "green" energy jobs. "Green" meaning it's going to take a lot of green before we find out that it's a complete unsustainable failure. All you sheep that are praying for higher taxes? Oh they're coming baby...Jan 2013 the onslaught of tax increases are going to make your heads spin. It's not speculation, it's reality and it's slated to happen.
Talk about stagnating an economy. We haven't even started paying for the healthcare bill yet but next year we will. Why do you suppose it was designed that way? If it takes place, (as of right now it will) this economy is going to grind to a near stop. Now, if the jack-ass in charge doesn't allow the tax hikes to happen what's that tell you? If you all want so many taxes on the "rich" aren't you all really pissed that someone like barack who swears everything about Bush is evil, kept Bush's tax cuts in place? Come on man, somebody stop talking out of both sides of your mouth and make a stance.
If he's great because he wants higher taxes then he must be an ass hole for keeping the tax cuts in which case HE'S FAILED HIS FLOCK. Or he actually knows that raising taxes won't help the economy but hurt it in which case he's waiting until he can do it and not be held accountable by future elections. In which case he's sold out and failed his flock.
Either way you sheep should just go ahead and admit he's a douche-bag. Seriously, someone on the left criticize this laughable president because he has stabbed you in the back time and time again but you guys just keep stumping for him. He's either great or he's not but if you believe in raising taxes and he approved the BUSH tax cut extension then how can you say he's great? You're voting for a fraud.
readbetweenthelines-1759809 Any accountant would be able to tell you that he is paying his share of taxes. All Americans are required to pay 15% on investment income. Which is what he is paying because most of his income is investment income. Would you pay more in taxes than you are required to pay by federal law? NO, probably not. And he didn't either. It's not his fault that he is only required to pay 15%. And on your religion thought, all religions have secrets. All of them!
On to the bullying topic. Everyone has bullied someone at some point of their lives. Romney happened to do it 50 years ago. If you're going to bring up the past, what about Obama's pot smoking days? That was illegal. If you're going to think that Romney will bully others, will Obama, or is Obama still smoking pot? He may have been high when he wrote Obamacare.
Romney never tells us how he will accomplish his goals. There are never any specifics. He's said before that he learned from his father not to give specifics because then they can be used against you.
This is all empty promises by Romney until he details his plan.
Bill-2910238 -- Riiight, so what's Romney's plan to pay down the debt? *crickets* And with those NOT PLAUSIBLE tax cuts, the austerity would have to be so severe that unemployment would skyrocket beyond your feeble mind.
American Girl-724855 -- As already posted by someone else above, there's nothing about JOBS either. You'd think JOBS would come before a pipeline -- very telling. Romney is NOT a serious candidate.
So the Democrats want Romney to give specific details so they can find fault with them.
I never saw anyone complain about the lack of specific details in any of Obama's proposals - before or AFTER his election.
Day 1 or Day 2 doesn't matter! Approving this pipeline is going to put all oil found in the Midwest on the global market causing the price of a gallon of gasoline in the Midwest to increase. I can not afford to pay more for gas just so Canada can reduce its cost to ship to China! More Jobs? Where? It might put a few thousand to work but it's just temporary work that will last as long as it takes to build the pipeline after that computers monitor it with a line inspection once in a while. Gets real people Romney only wants' to make his 1% all he can with out any regulation stopping it? Your children will be working for a lower minimum wage and you will be sitting at home unable to get even a 40 hour a week job. Some of you already know what it's like not to get 40 hours a week any longer. Ask Staples employees how they are doing next time you are in the store (out of camera view). Ask if they are working 40 hours a week? Wake up!
Day 1 or Day 2 doesn't matter! Approving this pipeline is going to put all oil found in the Midwest on the global market causing the price of a gallon of gasoline in the Midwest to increase. I can not afford to pay more for gas just so Canada can reduce its cost to ship to China! More Jobs? Where? It might put a few thousand to work but it's just temporary work that will last as long as it takes to build the pipeline after that computers monitor it with a line inspection once in a while. Gets real people Romney only wants' to make his 1% all he can with out any regulation stopping it? Your children will be working for a lower minimum wage and you will be sitting at home unable to get even a 40 hour a week job. Some of you already know what it's like not to get 40 hours a week any longer. Ask Staples employees how they are doing next time you are in the store (out of camera view). Ask if they are working 40 hours a week? Wake up!
Joe-797252 -- Holy cow, really? Seriously?
Eric-913730 -- Exactly. Romney never provides documentation with details, facts, evidence, data -- Voters are supposed to trust him and believe everything he says. Just trust that he created 100,000 jobs, that "70%" of the companies Bain took over are still in business, but don't ask for proof -- Just believe.
Romney wants to create jobs building a pipeline for Canadian oil, sell the oil on global markets, and send the profits to Canada.
Obama wants to create jobs erecting Chinese wind turbines, use the electricity here, and keep the profits in the USA.
See the difference?
Jimmy Carter should be all smiles - Obama is overtaking him as "The most incompetent President ever".
Let's hope that Romney is another Reagan and gets the economy back on track and people back to work.
Interestingly, Reagan accomplished his economic recovery while working with a Democratic Congress for all of his 8 years.
@ROY WILSON-336103 -- Obama is not even the worst President of the last decade.
President 'What's-his-name' has that distinction.
Backcountry164
End of one war, date for ending the other...
You mean the illegal war that former President Bush got us in the first place. Funny how seem to forget that President Obama finished what was LEFT to him.
Wow, you mean like Former President Bush spending a surplus left to him from Clinton and Congress? (Do not tell me there was no surplus either, both Gingrich and Santorum claimed there was). When he gave back American's Tax Rebate checks? How Bush PUSHED for a BILL of 700 BILLION in Tarp money before he left office, but failed to recognize it was his mistake? How made it so the FEDERAL Goverment which is responsible for medicare costs (yes our money) could not negotiate the cost of prescription drugs?
and four straight quarters of growth...
Then please explain to me how corporations are back to the pre recession level profits? Oh and those GOP have no responsibility do they what so ever with the recovery. That's right, let's lower corporate taxes because it will increase job growth? LOL, where are they? Oh yeah, they moved to China with my tax dollars paying their way in American Corporations back pockets?
and if it does, millions of Americans will still have no health care and we will pay the bill on it with our taxes anyway.
As for Romney? That's a plan?? What are you going to do to reduce the cost of the deficit? What about National Defense? How about the problems on this country with immigration? How about future energy needs? Oh yes, the Keystone Pipeline is going to do a lot to lower the costs of energy...
A vote for Romney is a vote for the next great Depression...
ROY WILSON-336103
LOL you mean former President Bush... Sorry, President Obama will never achieve the same level of incompetence.
Let's hope that Romney gets no where near they white house. I don't want my country back to the way it was under Reagan, we need to move forward.
Reagan was able to 'compromise' and work with Democrats. Amazing how the GOP today can't even do that.
What a laugh, the Dem supporters on here want details, details, details on Romney's plan, while Obama provides absolutely zip, zilch, nada, less than zero on how to address job growth, unemployment and the ever expanding debt.
Oh I know, fart power and green energy! Tax the rich! Yep, those are some serious details. You dems would be frickin' hilarious if you weren't so hypocritical. Your man BO is a FRAUD.
Romney, a dream come true for the 1%.
We need to get that Kenyon born, incompetent, communist, imposter out of the White House.
We need someone who knows how to make the economy work and who knows how to create jobs because he has been in the private sector and actually has had a real job, unlike Obama. Mr Community organizer and friends with radicals. Come on! Both of his parents were communists....you think Obama loves America? He hates America. Obama is clueless and if that isn't enough, he is trying to take us down a failed socialist European path that we already know doesn't work! Greece, here we come if this baffoon gets re-elected.
Romney 2012
you mean the bush tax cuts that let me keep an extra 40 bucks a month. oh wowee gee thanks. those tax cuts only matter to the rich anyways.
'Tax the rich' sounds like an excellent plan. It is something we have not tried for the last 30 years.
The 'cut taxes and spend' Romney plan is just repeating the same dumb mistakes that got us here.
annoyedperson "well i have to say even if Romney wins (which i have my doubts he will) the democrats will most likely take back congress because of the all time low approval rating they have (13% last time i checked)"
Don't count on it - Congress' approval rating in 2008, under Democratic control in both the House and Senate, was 9%. Not only didn't they lose control, but they actually GAINED seats. It's always the same story - people hate how badly Congress works, but it's always everyone ELSE's lawmaker that's the problem - their's is fine and deserves to be reelected.
Current projections show Republicans holding the House and likely taking over the Senate.
Looks like Romney will be the next President. Odimwit will be voted out. I'm looking forward to seeing that, it's going to be a great day in the history of America.
Mitt Romney's plan "Believe in America" has been on his website for over a year. OLD news MSNBC!
Day 1, he will also sign the Pacific Asian Trade Agreement (like NAFTA, but for Asia) which should make Democrats happy because its like NAFTA and Republicans happy because... well, who cares as long as Obama doesn't get reelected.
Romney's plan also states there are "1.25 million high skilled jobs unfilled even in this bad economy" that Romney will fix by raising the visa cap so "highly educated immigrants" can fill the jobs and that will stimulate the American economy and create jobs to meet the needs of the 1.25 million immigrants American citizens will be working for.
Romney believes in America. He's just firing the old Americans and hiring new Americans.
If the Republicans had nominated someone that actually knew how the economy works - instead of Romney - Republicans might have a chance to win the White House.
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Obama held BP accountable for the Mocondo well blowout in the Gulf of Mexico - required BP to pay the costs - and did not use government handouts.
Romney saved the Salt Lake City Olympics relying on government handouts.
See the difference?
As for the pipeline, it will have no effect on prices; American oil companies exported more oil than was imported in 2010. So, the oil comes down from Canada and goes straight overseas. All of that beautiful oil that conservative working class people are counting on will go offshore as fast as they can pump it; it is simply worth more in China or India than it is here. "Profits first!" say the American oil companies.
As for RomneyCare (sorry, that should be ObamaCare, but it is exactly what RomneyCare is in MA), I guess one more flip-flop, more or less, won't amount to much. Hell, it might even impress Jimmy Buffet (didn't he sing that he tore one?).
Tax reform is a joke. Throw out the entire tax code and start over is the only good way to deal with it. Romney's proposed changes will help the wealthy; that's the only people he really knows and/or understands.
Piss off China, who holds about a trillion dollars of debt; that is a good foreign policy move if you enjoy war. It wouldn't happen right away, but then, those conservatives make great chicken-hawks, you know!
If Romney does get a day one, the rest of us will be screwed by day two.
I agree, Republicans are turds, just lik Romeney's unverifiable etch a sketch plan
ROY i think you should read up on your facts a bit more 13 % is the lowest it has ever been and since that was under a GOP majority during that fiasco over the debt ceiling and it reflects badly on the GOP so im pretty confident the democrats will win back the majority
but we all must remember nothing is set in stone till it happens so anything (even miracles) can happen before the election
i have no idea where your "projections" are from but i would suggest checking more then one site for information
"Win"? More like Karl Rove, Karl Rove, Karl Rove and Karl Rove!
Everyone knows Romney will just be a Republican muppet with working digits to operate an ink pen.
Nerm_L "@ROY WILSON-336103 -- Obama is not even the worst President of the last decade... President 'What's-his-name' has that distinction."
You might want to look at the 'Misery Index' (Combined Unemployment and Inflation Indices - (lower is better) for recent presidents - it has some surprises.
Bush's average Index was 8.11%, which was a close second best to Clinton's 7.80% over the last 40 years.
Jimmy Carter was worst at 16.26%. If they counted the Unemployment Rate like they did under Bush using a comparable 'labor participation rate', Obama's Misery Index would be about 15%. Here's the link;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misery_index
@ROY WILSON-336103 -- That's only because the 'rich' were not richer under Carter. The 'rich' were MUCH richer under President 'What's-his-name'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient
In Republican land - only the misery of the 'rich' counts. The rest of us are unimportant.
Nerm_L -- "Predecessor" -- Hahaha, that is funny.
Juiceisgood -- Go juice up somewhere else. The adults are talking.
Defend America -- You're right, Romney already published his plan, and we've debated it and how it is vague on many points. But you completely skip past the fact he is presenting yet another plan, being the Etch-a-Sketch that he is.
It's...
Mind telling me what part of the war was "illegal"?? Considering that Congress approved it. Do you also need to be reminded how Obama skirted that issue with Libya?? Now THAT was illegal. And it's well documented that the troop pulldown was orchestrated under Bush's watch..something those liberal like to forget.
And please tell me exactly what plan Obama had back in 2008? Oh yeah...that hope and change... It's amazing that the same people that bought that load of crap would still vote another 4 years of that same useless slogan...
I am pretty uninformed on all these issues, so perhaps you might tell me what the private sector job creation record of the following presidents was:
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard M. Nixon, Gerald R. Ford, Ronald W. Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and William J. Clinton.
Clinton, who I believe had absolutely no private sector job experience, created 23 million jobs.
As for George W. Bush, who had a Harvard M.B.A. and a few private sector jobs, not so much.
As one of those pesky independent voters (the last 5 elections votes were; 2 for Dems, 2 for Reps and 1 independent), I mark this as a positive for Romney. This combined with the use of the debt clock and the immediate comments against Jeremiah Wright campaign ad proposal, add up to a set of good moves if he's trying to attract independent voters like me.
@JK1963 -- I think the wars were illegal because we were double parked.
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Our military planning is based on a three front global war. Guess that is why parking in two little parking spaces was so overwhelming.
Hopefully Romney's planning is better than the military's. We had to destroy the nations to build the nations. We don't need another 10 year nation building plan like that - especially when it is OUR nation.
After reading the Day One "outline" Mr. Romney proposes, I'd like to suggest he start planning an alternative: Perhaps take the family out for pancakes at the IHOP at 3100 14th Street NW in D.C., which is only 2.4 miles from the White House, and probably as close as he'll get to it on January 20th (or 21st, 22nd, 23rd...) 2013.
Cut taxes? WOW that's original! Wonder how he plans on making up the short fall? Borrow more from China?
If every politician that promised tax cuts actually kept their word none of us would be paying taxes anymore.
repel ObamaCare (pssst Mitty, there is no such thing) ??
Do we really want to start reversing what the last Administration does every time the party in power changes? Seems like a good way to go nowhere forever.
Does everyone know that the 'rich' are leaving the country and denouncing their citizenship at a faster rate since the TEA Party took control of the House?
Of course, the TEA Party claims it is not their de-fault.
well I, for one, am glad he laid his cards on the table. Nothing new and epic fail on all 3 issues. This guy's toast.
annoyedperson "ROY i think you should read up on your facts a bit more 13 % is the lowest it has ever been...i have no idea where your "projections" are from but i would suggest checking more then one site for information"
The 9% figure came from a CBS/NYTimes poll taken in October 2008 - when Nancy Pelosi (D) and Harry Reid (D) were in control of Congress.
Despite that horrible rating, the Democrats actually picked up seats in both houses of Congress in the elections only a few weeks later.
Like I said, these polls are meaningless when it comes to congressional elections - because they are all 'local' - so people may hate Congress, but they seem to like THEIR representative.
Nerm_L "Does everyone know that the 'rich' are leaving the country and denouncing their citizenship at a faster rate since the TEA Party took control of the House?"
Thanks for the laugh - Could it possibly be because of Obama's announced intentions to 'raise taxes on the rich'?
BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH...BLAH ! A chicken in every pot and job for all ! Juz vote fur me and by golly , by day one your S**T won't stink , I'll balance the budget and rainbows will fly out of your butt !
Anybody...anywhere....that's ever been in business knows the only way to create jobs is by the public reaching in their pockets and using their purchasing power to create a need for some item or some service or some product. I could open up a business tomorrow and tell you I just created 100 jobs for widget manufacturing.....but come the next day if those widgets are not selling...guess what happens ? It's the purchasing power of John Q. Public that creates jobs, not the Mitt Romney's of the world. If 100,000 people decided they needed widgets, it would create a demand, thus a needed increase in production and sustain the jobs or even call for an increase of workers. If those 100,000 people wanted widgets, that's 100,000 widgets sold......how many widgets do you think people like Romney buy ? Nothing to compare to the power of the purchasing public...no matter how much money the Romney's of the world have.
Bain Capital, by shear definition and purpose (moving in on and extracting a profit) from the purchase of a company is antithetical to creating jobs. What does a company do , even if they are on the up and up, they demand more work from their workers, less pay for their workers, for what....so their profit margins go up. When they don't, they CUT jobs. They try to do more with less people. The best anyone in government can do is to try to support and sustain the jobs that do exist until the economy rights itself and the public regains confidence. Think what purchasing power the public would have if THEIR wages had increased anywhere near what the top 1%'s wages and profits have. The republicans aren't stupid (although that's questionable sometimes). They know that and have done everything in their power to stymie recovery in hopes you won't see the man behind the curtain pulling switches and puffing smoke. So, Go ahead, Just vote for the great Republican wizard of OZ. But hold on to your ass, 'cause if you think just clicking those ruby red slippers together are going to take you back home...well...go ahead...hold your breath.
Maybe the next unfunded war will be in Iran. You know, the same Iran the Republicans under Reagan sold arms to to finance the contras.
President Bush will be returning to the White House on May 31
- for a ceremony to unveil his Presidential portrait.
Rumor is that Homeland Security will be conducting a national preparedness drill during the ceremony.
VIGILANCE!
If Mittens wins it will be back to the glory days of 2008 almost immediately. The richest getting richer and the GOP and their masters on Wall Street will start putting the middle class back on their knees. They have managed to obstruct and derail almost every plan that was proposed to help the middle and lower classes but big oil got better subsidies and lower taxes courtesy of the Republicans in Congress.
I recently bought a tee shirt to wear in Washington DC. It reads:
Congressmen are just like baby's diapers. They should be changed often and for exactly the same reason!
The Keystone Pipeline is a boondoggle of the first degree. It won't do squat to help the economy and it runs the very real possibility of creating some very serious ecological nightmares. Also, the money goes to a Canadian company, how is that going to boost our economy? Please. Non-starter. If he had left that out I would have paid more attention to him. Obama scares the crap out of me, an unbridled Obama will have us trashing the constitution while embracing all things UN.
Romney is an idiot for pushing the Keystone Pipeline.
As to the two parties, please. They aren't any different. Democrats and republicans are guilty of equal amounts of warmongering and malfeasance. Not one person seems to realize that most of the wars and 'conflicts' that have engaged this country have happened under democrats.
Time for a new party, a third party. The democrats and the republicans are jokes and, mark my words, not one of them has a clue as to what is going to be happening with the global financial collapse, which will be coming soon. Look at Europe, we're not far behind and neither Obama nor Romney has a clue.
You rightwingers need to watch Nick Ramsey's short seminar on YouTube. He explains in very clear terms how middle class consumption creates jobs, not the rich. Even a low-information voter could understand this with the excellent presentation by Ramsey. Puleeze, check it out or STFU.
mygirl1 -- What a refreshing post from you -- Nice to see except the "Two Wrongs Make a Right" argument. And multiple parties would require coalitions -- We would need to figure that out. But the president and Dems are definitely the lesser of two evils.
Amazing; "Mittens" should have and explain his economic plans. Hmmm...perhaps President Obama should publish his; after all, it has been 3.5 years now. I certainly hope the Presidents plan gets more support than his budget proposals.
Cutting taxes is supposed to pay off the deficit how??? Does Romney realize that we pay our bills with tax money? If he cuts taxes.....where do we get the money to pay the bills? This is the stupidest thing I've EVER heard anyone say! This guy is supposed to be an business wizard....I probably know more about business than he does! You can't pay bills if you don't have money coming in; i.e., tax money!! Sure, you can cut everything down to the bone, but it won't help jobs (in fact, you'll be putting MORE people out of jobs), it won't help cut the deficit, and it won't help us get back to where we belong!!! God, this man scares the bejeezus out of me!!! As for letting the states handle healthcare....some states are already on the verge of bankruptcy, what are they supposed to do to help with the healthcare problem?
Mitt, don’t waste your time making plans -- you’ll NEVER be President of the United States.
Get a job – a real job – the economy is improving (thanks to President Obama’s policies) and with ALL YOUR BUSINESS EXPERIENCE, you should have NO PROBLEM! Or maybe you can start your own company and hire a few thousand people – OOPS, I forgot, you “like firing people!”
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!
Anna Molly "I am pretty uninformed on all these issues, so perhaps you might tell me what the private sector job creation record of the following presidents was:"
Presidents do not create jobs (except when they hire more people in government). They can only create an environment for the private sector to create jobs. That business environment is set by Congress, through taxes and regulations (either pro or anti growth). The President has little to do with it, except by signing or vetoing legislation.
When we 'do the numbers' based on who controlled Congress over the last 30 years (Through 2010), here are the actual results when it comes to 'creating jobs';
Jobs created when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = 8,605,000 net new jobs.
Jobs created when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = 23,239,000 net new jobs.
Jobs created when Congress was split (8 years) = 7,502,000 net new jobs.
What if Romney says He is going to double the tax rate on everyone to pay down the debt, will thaat make You guys vote for Him ? Obama has been a 100% failure, 3 1/2 years and the economy still stinks. Do You Obama lovers think that is going to change as tax rates go through the roof ? I don't know why the sheep keep following. Oh, I forgot He is for the middle class, as He hires all of Wall Streets golden parachute boys for his cabinet. I don't get Your thought process. Bush didn't cause the financial meltdown, it was the democratic administration before Him, yet I wanted a change. Man am I ever sorry, and I have seen His failures, and I have learned He is over His head. People sooner or later You have to realize Bozo can't handle the job! Lets try something different !
Romney's plan is to double down on the magic 'job creating' Republican policies of the past. Romney wants to follow the time tested, results proven, Republican recipe for disaster.
Does any of this sound familiar?
- lower taxes for the wealthy to free up capital for investment
- reduce regulations to spur investment
- end unions - lower business costs - lower wages and increase productivity
- encourage private sector borrowing to create artificial demand.
Here is how the Republican magic operates. Does this look familiar?
more capital (money) = speculation = inflation = debt = more money (capital)
Rinse, spin, repeat.
That is why our dollar has been devalued over the last 30 years. That is why our public and private debt has increased dramatically over the last 30 years.
Romney's plan is to inflate our debt away - like magic. Romney's plan is to borrow our way to prosperity. Romney simply wants to continue the magic - that has wrecked our economy.
We need a President that cares more about jobs than 'job creators'. We need a President that cares more about people than profits.
JK1963
Really? You mean Congress declared war against Iraq? Please show me exactly where Congress approved a declaration of war. Former President Bush started the war with no strategy, no way to win it, over a lie, and no way to pay for it. Congress finally granted 'money' so that our military would be supported.
How did President Obama Skirt the issue with Libya. If he had invaded, you righties would have been on him for it. If he did nothing, you would have been on him for it. What he did was right, and you are still on em. You can't please whiners and complainers.
Well when you get a do nothing Congress (13% approval rating) that is full of corruption, lobbyist money, PAC money, and a GOP that 'signs' a pledge, where would you be?
I know President Obama hasn't done everything right. However, if any of you righties (or anyone else) think one man (all by himself) can turn around what has taken decades to create, then you are delusional.
Dennis, unfortunately the middle class usually work for the evil rich people. They are the ones that create the jobs, which by the way haven't been created under this administration, even after spending 1 trillion to make it happen. I'm sure You think it's fine that half that money ended up in the unions pocket, 500 million given to His friends at Solandra, and other pay backs. That should've really stimulated the middle class ! The only stimulation everyone should feel from that is a sore butt !
mygirl1 "The Keystone Pipeline is a boondoggle of the first degree. It won't do squat to help the economy and it runs the very real possibility of creating some very serious ecological nightmares"
It will 'create' about 20,000 good paying temporary jobs, but more importantly, it will allow us to replace a huge amount of the oil that we currently have to get from our 'enemies' in the Middle East and Venezuela with oil from a much more friendly and dependable source - Canada.
That alone makes it a good idea. As for 'ecological nightmares', I doubt that any (unlikely) leak that spoils a few acres of cornfields is something that will keep me awake at night. Having 160 million gallons leak from a tanker into the ocean is a much more potentially serious 'ecological nightmare'.
I suspect that you're one of those people that cannot 'connect the dots' between the 'moratoriums' on oil drilling and freeze on drilling permits under Obama, and the increase in the price of gasoline from $1.84 when Obama took office to the current price of about $3.84 now.
@ Mygirl1:
"As to the two parties, please. They aren't any different. Democrats and Republicans are guilty of equal amounts of warmongering and malfeasance."
Exactly; I have been an Independent for all but the first three years of my "voting life." Both parties have FAILED to address/solve any of the meaningful issues facing us for at least the last 40 years: S/Security, Medicare, Energy, etc. At this point (with the current "my way or the highway" voters), regardless of who is elected, I would wager "We The People" will be the ones picking up the pieces. About two years ago (perhaps a bit more), Louis Black explained his thoughts (finally expressing thoughts I have had for decades but couldn't put into words) when he went in to vote during the Kerry/Bush Primary Election, "When I went into that voting booth, they handed me two bowls of shxt; the only difference was the smell." Exactly!
joel-989818 -- Being one of the low-information voters referenced above, watch Nick Ramsey--a very rich man--on YouTube. He explains in simple terms why middle-class consumption creates jobs, not the rich.
Romney and the Race to the Bottom. Marvelous.
And the poor and middle class shall burst forth in a mournful rendition of; "saint Peter don't cha call meee, cause I can't gooooo,........... i owe my soul to da republican sto...re.
Wait til we get a load of his replacement "health care", closed tax deductions, and program cuts. I smell a nation of pawn shops, flea markets, rotted food, and a vast resurgence of slap built outhouses.
It's comforting to have a grown up running for President who doesn't resort to character assassination as his means of defending himself. Nor does he want to be the "cool" guy. We saw where "cool" got us. "Cool" doesn't cut it.
ROY WILSON-336103
Agree w/you Roy.
How about in the last 50 Years Roy:
Years held in Presidency: Republicans: 28 - Democrats: 22 Million
Total Jobs Created: Republicans 24 Million: Democrats: 42 Million
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76338.html
Private-sector payrolls increased by 42 million jobs under Democratic administrations, and 24 million under Republican ones. That’s an average of 150,000 new paychecks a month under Democrats and 71,000 per month under Republicans.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76338.html#ixzz1vG7Qev6I
Imagine if both parties actually worked together.....
If nobody votes for him there won't be any need to worry about his plans for America.
Anna Molly: "Clinton, who I believe had absolutely no private sector job experience, created 23 million jobs."
That is because he had a Republican controlled house and senate. He couldn't get away with any typical Democrate nonsense.
Ronald Reagon cut taxes and stopped the over regulating of business, which is killing job creation now under Obama, and many jobs were created during the Reagon years. Reagon worked in the private sector. We need someone with that kind of experience again in the White House.
This is completely inaccurate. Day 1 would be royally pissing off Feisty Red Head and all her drone followers.
Insurance have more than tripled in the last ten years producing enormous profits, The GOP T-Baggers and Mitt Romney support this and call this Trickle down !
Ron - "As one of those pesky independent voters (the last 5 elections votes were; 2 for Dems, 2 for Reps and 1 independent), I mark this as a positive for Romney. This combined with the use of the debt clock and the immediate comments against Jeremiah Wright campaign ad proposal, add up to a set of good moves if he's trying to attract independent voters like me."
Wow! Aren't you just totally embarrassed to post that props like the debt clock, the road to nowhere and his pandering to people about the Jeremiah Wright campaign ad (which he hates killing) will make you vote for Romney? You're a pretty damned cheap sell aren't ya? I'm really hoping that was a sarcastic post!
I will say this, to all those people who said they wanted a moderate in office, Romney is far more moderate than Obama. To those that complain that nothing can get done in the federal government legislative branch because you have extreme republicans on one side and extreme democrats on the other, Romney would be the only real choice for a person voting with no party affiliation. Obviously many people say one thing, but really just mean that they want someone who will vote their side.
Roy: While the moratoriums are interesting, what is more interesting is the fact that the US is the third largest producer of oil on the planet. Global markets determine who gets said oil. The Canadian oil comes from the oil sands and is filthy, nasty and ecologically horrific stuff. I don't like the idea of the largest dam in the world being constructed to hold the tailings from ONE MINE!
I am not an ideologue, I don't believe EITHER party cares for the country and politicians adhering to any platform which the parties espouse are only mouthing platitudes to get votes. I am a capitalist, I believe in true capitalism, not the crony-capitalism which has held sway for far too long in this country. A true capitalist does not bail-out failing companies at taxpayer expense. The bailouts were and are a prime example of crony-capitalism at its worst.
Obama is indeed a socialist: aka: progressive, Romney is a crony-capitalist, neither are to be desired. Ron Paul would have been my choice, interesting how he was marginalized and Romney placed, from the get-go, into the nomination. Now, what we get to see, yet again, is the corrupt politics of a two party system. Until that two party system is addressed and an independent party created, this country will continue to suffer. Democrats pander to liberals and liberal ideologies and said ideologies only work when there is a strong enough economy to allow for the welfare state. Without a strong economy, the entitlements and welfare are a serious drain on the productive members of society and tax and spend to cover the entitlements ends up with Greece.
Having said that, the 'jobs' mantra of the republicans, with its complete disregard for the strength and well being of the environment is insane. They are all for allowing the destruction of a healthy environment to profit the few. The long term damages for short term gain are unacceptable.
Most people, if they were honest and would get off of the ideological rhetoric coming from both sides of the aisle, would agree that ultimately we all want the same things. We want a clean environment that also allows for commerce and a well cared for society. We actually have the elements in place to achieve both sides goals, however, what has happened is that the extremists have been allowed to gain the upper hand. All-or-nothing scenarios develop and the end result is that things remain stagnant.
I would very much like to see a forum where people get together to constructively iron out our differences and work towards a common accord. What we all want is really and essentially the same, sadly, our politicans and parties are vehemently against such accord because they would lose their power base and that is what it is all about...getting and holding onto power and screw the citizens.
Romney reminds me of John Lovitz's character Tommy Flannagan "The Pathological Liar" on SNL. Yeah, that's the ticket...on my first day, I'm gonna cut your taxes and then...I'm gonna dig you a pipeline and then...I'm gonna take away your health insurance. That's what I'm gonna do.
mygirl1,
Agreed, I really liked Ron Paul, but in the current system it is all about having the media behind you and money, which means paybacks if you win. Ron Paul was probably the only half honest candidate for president on either side. I voted Obama last time and regretted it since, turned out to be just another lying manipulator, he even lied about his own mother and her insurance for god sakes. That just shows how low he is willing to go. I'll vote for the least of two evils this time and for me I always vote on the economy.
Anna molly, how droll....
Of course the 1986 tax reform act had nothing to do with it or even the winding down of the gulf war, right? Then we have the tech boom of the 90's as well. Interesting on how the clinton administration still added about $1.1 trillion to our public debt and gave us the dot com crash and "I didn't know getting a BJ in the oval office by monica was sex".
... sounding a lot like bev of chicago, anna. Don't let historical events get in your way. Clinton was average, but disarming.
Romney will seriously scale back government to avoid a monetary collapse but I have no doubt what Obama will do if given another chance. Romney will be successful at getting the economy going for all of us, but I have no doubt what Obama will do if given the chance.
Romney 2012 - Believe In America.
@ItsAboutTime-3704531
ROTFLMAO!!! Sorry dude but I was laughing so hard after this statement I couldn't take you seriously enough to even bother finishing your post. You can't be fcking serious! Do you expect anyone to believe you give a rats ass what Gingrich or Santorum had to say? LOL! Too fcking funny!!
Clinton ran a deficit every year he was in office, the numbers don't lie no matter how politicians try to spin them. The debt increased every year under Clinton. Even a friggin moron is smart enough to realize that the debit wouldn't increase if there had been a budget surplus.
Aside from that I could not care less what Bush did anymore. He's gone and won't come back. Claiming Obama is better by comparing him to Bush is beyond laughable. We should vote for Obama again just because he's better than one of the worst Presidents ever? You really don't see what a pathetic defense that is? I wouldn't be surprised if Bush himself votes for Obama so as to bump himself down one spot on the list of worst Presidents. I'm still trying to decide if Bush was "Obama lite" or if Obama is "Bush on steroids" but one thing I am certain of. If Obama gets a second term, by the end of it George Bush will seem like George Washington by comparison.
Aggie-345886 -- Hahaha. Character assassination is what Romney has done to all his opponents -- Not that being a pathological liar, greedy rat b*****d, and corporate socialist doesn't matter, because yes character matters...
Attacking Romney's record is not character assassination. Of course Romney doesn't want any scrutiny of his hideous record (the only worthwhile accomplishment being Romneycare), doesn't want to answer any questions from the press, and doesn't want to detail his real plans. NO, he wants to be the "generic alternative" because that is the only way he could be elected.
Brett-294987 -- No dude, the extremism is coming from the Tea Party and the Tea Party only. The Dems look conservative in comparison. As for Romney, who knows what he is.
Frist off I have read a lot of the Libs posts here and as usual you regurgitate the same ole BS. Obama wants us to be like France, Greece, Spain, Portugal. Have any of you been paying attention to Europe. NO I guess. That is not the cause of Capitalism. Yet hey who cares that George Soro's a Multi-Billionaire who hates the USA and what it stands for is one of Obama's biggest donors. I am sick and tired of you Libs blaming Bush for this mess when you all need to go back to school and learn US Government again and quit reading the Communist Manifesto. Here are the facts. Written out by a very logical person who did their homework. Its Congress who authorizes spending . Which BTW they passed Defense Spending that Obama wants to cut back while our troops are in a War overseas. Oh yeah Obama has the Military's back just ask him and Michelle.
January 3, 2007?
This is just a
History lesson. I am sending it to all regardless of party. I bet I
know who wouldn't read it -- those afraid of the truth. It is history
and nothing can change it.
The day the Democrats took over was
not January 22nd, 2009, it was actually January 3rd 2007, the day the
Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at
the very start of the 110th Congress.
The Democratic Party
controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the
end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.
For those who are listening
to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush's
Fault", think about this:
January 3rd, 2007, the day the
Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:
The DOW Jones
closed at 12,621.77
The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
The
Unemployment rate was 4.6%
George Bush's Economic policies SET A
RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!
Remember that
day...
January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over
the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the
Senate Banking Committee.
The economic meltdown that happened 15
months later was in what part of the economy?
BANKING AND
FINANCIAL SERVICES!
THANK YOU DEMOCRATS (especially Barney)
for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment...to
this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars
of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
FIASCOES!
(BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie &
Freddie -starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US
economy). Barney blocked it and called it a "Chicken Little
Philosophy" (and the sky did fall!)
And who took the THIRD
highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA
And who
fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?
OBAMA and the
Democrat Congress, especially BARNEY !!!!
So when someone
tries to blame Bush...
REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007.... THE DAY THE
DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"
Bush may have been in the car but the
Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they
were driving the economy into the ditch.
Budgets do not come from
the White House.. They come from Congress and the party that
controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party.
Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 &
2009 as well as 2010 & 2011.
In that first year, they had
to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on
spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending
increases.
For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid
bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep
government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that
time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the
2009 budget.
And where was Barack Obama during this time? He
was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive
spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to
complete 2009. Let's remember what the deficits looked like during
that period:
If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the
2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was
the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit
spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending,
and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.
If
Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.
In a
nutshell, what Obama is saying is "I inherited a deficit that I
voted for, and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since
January 20th."
There is no way this will be widely
publicized, unless each of us sends it on!
DO IT NOW,
PLEASE!!! FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN....AND
AMERICA!!!!
"The problems we face today exist because the
people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a
living."
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@AP-1414066
An end to the war Obama escalated and a date set by Bush for the other and only kept because Obama failed when he tried to negotiate a longer stay.
Obama fail in negotiations? Really? So you don't have a problem with American Soldiers being tried by the Iraqis under Sharia Law?
Economic insanity? You mean like spend a bunch of money we don't have and then print some more to make up the difference?
Oh, you mean like when Bush took us to war with 2 separate countries at the same time? Gave billions to the pharmaceutical companies with Medicare Part D and hundreds of billions to his wealthy friends in the form of tax cuts? And then paid for it all with a Chinese Credit Card? Where were the 2 wars in Bush's Budget?
Growth so anemic it has been the worst recovery from a recession since the great Depression.
What was the growth rate when Bush left office? -0.00 That seems pretty anemic to me.
When they show you who they are...believe them!
An interesting thread! The only thing I want to say about the last three or so years of the "President’s years" is that I’ve had it “up to heeeere”, find yourself another thing to do and get out of the way!!
Yes we can, Romney 2012
truepatriot,
That is ludicrous. When did balancing a budget become extremism anyway. The left has been so crazy about calling the Tea Party extreme because they believe in a balanced budget that it makes the entire left seem like they are in fairy land. No, I'm sorry, people who believe that spending money they don't have is extreme and crazy, and that is the democrats in office currently, and was the republicans in office under Bush.
Go read the Ryan plan and not the Wiki version which someone has leaned towards the left. Here is the actual proposal. What in the world in this plan does not make sense to anyone. Do you liberals all live life on spend money you don't have like crazy. I don't believe that's the case at all. I like to believe that most here actually live on a budget and within their means. Well I would think that would make the most sense. Go read Ryan's plan and how it will bring the USA back to prosperity.
paulryan.house.gov/UploadedFiles/Pathtoprosperity2013.pdf
Poor Mitt, going on the old "Americans are over-taxed" BS. He is literally gutting Social Security, as estate taxes are important in funding the program. He is also gutting our government's ability to pay its bills, maintain law and order, and just exist. So much for tax reform.
Unfortunately, Romney's plans to "relieve the burden forced on the shoulders of job creators" will actually skyrocket the debt. For example, repealing the estate tax would increase the Social Security shortfall and force the program to make drastic cuts to stay solvent. Romney also wants to repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax, even though it raises hundreds of billions of dollars a year. He even wants to cut taxes by a massive 20%, while gutting numerous taxes. Yet he fails to show how he plans to make the plans deficit-neutral. He assures, that with the elimination of "a few deductions...economic growth, and spending cuts" he can make this deficit neutral. Yet he would have to do a lot to do that. There are two paths fiscal paths that Romney, according to his recent views, could take. The first is his own plan. Under his plans, Romney would extend the Bush tax cuts, cut taxes by another $3.4 trillion, and raise the defense budget. But if he were to do that, and raise the defense budget by perhaps $400 billion over a decade, he would inflate the deficit to $10.8 trillion over the next decade. If he were to make his plans deficit neutral AND balance the budget, he would have to cut the annual federal budget by a third every year, just to break even. And there is VERY LITTLE economic proof that this plan would cause enough economic growth to pay off a significant part of the debt. The second path he could take is the Ryan plan, which he has called "marvelous." In this path, he would cut taxes by $4.6 trillion (in addition to extending the Bush tax cuts), and cut $3.8 trillion in spending. That would cause the deficit to go up to over $8 trillion, not to mention the economic costs of cutting spending during a rough recovery. Either way, he'd add trillions to the debt and would bankrupt America within a matter of a decade.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
Brett-294987, et al -- The rightwing has gone so far to the right that Reagan looks like a socialist now. Balancing a budget isn't extreme, but "eating the corn seed' with draconian spending cuts alone is extreme. A balanced approach that includes revenues is what's needed, and even some Republicans like Tom Coburn of Oklahoma are finally telling Norquist to take his pledge and shove it.
What IS extreme are Teabag idiots like Richard Mourdock who want to "inflict" their narrow view via Tyranny of the Minority. It is only the GOP/TP with the "my way or the highway" mantra. Let's hope they can get rid of the filibuster in Congress--that would be a good start. Then we need to throw out the Tea Party. We elect representatives to govern, not to protest, and we elect them to represent all their constituents, not just a loud few.
TheSwordNPen79 -- Aside from the obvious of additional tax cuts for the rich, and increased defense spending in Romney's plan, there are hidden loopholes in Ryan's plan that would allow the rich to further evade taxation by off-shoring -- I'm sure you didn't catch that part. Most of all, Ryan's plan does not decrease deficits for ions because of the increased tax cuts for the rich.
Romney's plan couldn't balance the budget even if all entitlements were completely abolished in large part because of increased defense spending, along with tax cuts. "What in the world in this plan makes sense to anyone?"
Don't like Obama never did but he was the lesser of the two evils. Let us not forget Romney's speeches "I love firing people" and "Social Security and Disability are entitlements". The only entitlements I see are the pay checks we give congress. A man who would strap a dog crate to the top of his car and travel to Canada shows unbelievable poor taste and total disregard for the treatment of a pet. If he can't even treat his dog well what do you think he'll do to citizens that he doesn't even know. About that pipeline, all the taxpayers are going to get out of it is the bill for building it and guarding it while the oil companies will get all the profits when they sell the oil overseas, you didn't really think the oil was going to be used here did you.
Well, for one thing it drastically cuts social programs like education and food stamps during an anemic recovery. For another, it throws Medicare to the wolves in the private sector instead of instituting meaningful reform. And it doesn't even reduce the deficit. Ryan plans to cut taxes by $4.6 trillion, which would easily override his budget's savings (which are $3.8 trillion, if you subtract $1.6 trillion for repealing Obamacare, which reduces the deficit). For a guy who claims to be a fiscal conservative, he isn't really conservative on anything except tax cuts.
...but Romney will NEVER have this so-called 'Day One'.
Backcountry164
LOL I see... so you can't trust the GOP on their factual/lack of knowledge right? How funny is that. Had Gingrich or Santorum gotten even close to the nomination, you would said "oh yes, that's right..." You GOP Flip Floppers crack me up. Thank you for proving to me and the rest of the world exactly why we SHOULD not have the GOP in Congress or the WhiteHouse.
LOL Prove it, show me your factual information. LOL and every idiot would realize a budget surplus doesn't mean that CONGRESS used it to pay the DEBT. :P
Ahh so you admit what former President Bush did to this country. You like so many others have your head in the sand and think "President Obama" created this mess all by himself.
We'll let history be the ultimate judge.. but President Obama is far better than former President Bush will ever be.
LMAO.. umm no, its very clear which president was more for the people of the United States.
One thing I am certain of, if President Obama does get re-elected, and those DO NOTHING but whine and complain Republicants are kicked out, we'll start moving forward deeper into recovery.
Vote for Romney... He is your candidate, but the man isn't good enough to win a pie eating contest.
Just From my Middle class experience. I was born early 70's So Carter years were not an issue with me. Didn't have to pay bills. The Reagan years sucked for Middle class Families like mine Lumber workers. Then Bush Sr. came along and it was worse first Iraq war. Then Clinton came and I made money. Got a Degree and made more money. Then Bush Jr. And within two terms. I have seen the Middle class lose and almost disappear. Then Obama. Now it is slowly turning. Not as fast as with Clinton but it is.
And now people want Mitt Romney in office. WHY? BAIN is the main Example of what he stands for. And without the middle class there is no Good times for the majority. The poor depend on them. And the rich used to depend on them. Now the Rich can just up and leave. Abandon the country and hide in tax shelters around the world. So we need to help the Middle class to create more jobs. And just let the Rich take a hike.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-obama-mitt-romney-do-battle-over-bain-capital/2012/05/14/gIQAFVztPU_story.html
Next look at how fast Romney broke away from the republicans questioning Obama's religion. The truth is he does not want that part of the vetting to come into play. He is a devout Mormon leader who has to follow that Cult. But hey that's just my opinion. Ask Romney about Cains curse ask Romney about about marriage with 12 year old girls. Within the same church the LDS.
Here this is from Bringham Young
From Brigham Young: Let this Church which is called the Kingdom of God on the earth; we will summons the First Presidency, the Twelve, the High Council, the Bishopric, and all the Elders of Israel, suppose we summons them and appear here, and here declare that it is right to mingle our seed with the black race of Cain, that they shall come in with us and be partakers with us of all the blessings God has given to us. On that very day and hour we should do so, the Priesthood is taken from this Church and Kingdom and God leaves us to our fate.The moment we consent to mingle with the seed of Cain, the Church must go to destruction--we should receive the curse which has been placed upon the seed of Cain, and never more be numbered with the children of Adam who are heirs to the Priesthood until that curse be removed. (Speech by Gov. Brigham Young in Joint Session of the Legislature, giving his views on slavery, Feb. 5, 1852).
"Romney's 'Day One': What do we know about his plan?"
Despite a lack of substance in explaining any details thus far from Team Mitt, I'd say we know significantly more than Mr. Romney does about his "Day One" agenda: 1) We know it won't work; 2) We know it will never see the light of day from a window at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
@Ol_Doc
Huh? That WAS the failure. That's the only reason we won't be there longer. Obama failed to get that one thing off the table. He couldn't get that one single concession from our "allies" so he had no choice but to go forward with the withdrawal as planned. If he had managed to do just that one thing we'd be there for God only knows how long and you libs would have to spin it in the other direction.
As for the rest of your garbage all I can say is don't waste your time. You seem to be under the impression that I am a republican and that I somehow support what Bush did. I'm not and I don't. Bush did a terrible job; the only thing keeping Obama from being even worse than Bush is literally that he's had half as much time to fck things up. I hardly see how Bush's failings is a valid argument for giving him the opportunity.
Personally, I would support the building of the Keystone Pipeline. But not under the conditions that the GOP is proposing. The Keystone Pipeline would not create 20,000. It wouldn't even create 10,000. 4,000 or 6,000 is more accurate. And yes, it would create more jobs via the multiplier effect; but not that many.
The only benefit that the Keystone Pipeline would have is that it might, repeat, might lower speculation. But it wouldn't lower gas by maybe two or three cents. And as for the advocates who say that getting oil from Canada is a lot better than from Venezuela or Saudi Arabia, I'll give you that. Unfortunately, we aren't the ones getting the oil. At least 98% of the oil shipped through the pipeline will go to foreign consumers (I am a fan of exports, but not during shortages), not to U.S. consumers. That is the major reason why it won't affect gas prices significantly.
I'll give Romney the benefit of expanding oil production, but problem I find with his plans is that he wants to drill on the Alaska Wildlife Reserve, which could threaten the ecosystem. Another problem I see with the Keystone Pipeline is that it endangers a major aquifer supplying water to Midwestern farms. If oil leaks into that aquifer, and it probably will (after BP's mess in the Gulf), the entire Midwest could be threatened by the oil spill. Americans are essentially being asked by the Canadians to host a major pipeline because Canadians don't want the oil to spill on their land. In my opinion, they should build it along a safer route, and give the U.S. consumer at least 50% of the oil. If not, than to hell with it. If they can't give us a fair share of the benefits for all the risk we're taking, than they can go @!$%# themselves.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
Romney doesnt have a plan .. the plan .. is the Ryan budget ... Grover Norquist said the only plan is the Ryan Budget plan ..and all the GOP needs is an empty suit in the white house that can sign the bills presented to him
@ItsAboutTime-3704531
Here is where you fail epically, you assume that everyone who criticizes the current POTUS must be GOP. You’re dead wrong. Had Gingrich or Santorum gotten the nomination it wouldn’t have changed a thing for me. Gingrich may be the only person in history who can be described as both the smartest person in
the room and the dumbest person in the room at the same time and Santorum thumps his Bible so hard he has to get a replacement every week. I wouldn’t have voted for either of them if Jesus friggin Christ had come down from heaven to be the VP. I don’t hold Romney in much better light and don’t plan on voting for him either but I will say this, the failure of the current POTUS is unmistakable and
EVERYONE can see it. If not they still wouldn’t be screaming “GEORGE BUSH, GEORGE BUSH, GEORGE BUSH” every single time someone criticizes Obama. It’s literally the only defense you libs have.
http://www.skymachines.com/US-National-Debt-Per-Capita-Percent-of-GDP-and-by-Presidental-Term.htm
Notice how the debt increases each year under Cliniton. LOL, yeah and every idiot would also realize that a surplus would mean the debt would stay the same from one year to the next even if no one was attempting to use said surplus to pay the debt down. Well...obviously not every idiot, but most.
It is indeed interesting that anyone who has a serious problem with Obama's policies is labeled a republican or teacon or whatever other derogatory name comes to mind. I'm an independent, a moderate, a fiscal conservative and a tree hugger. Where does that put me since I really do not like or trust Obama. Note as well, I'm not a racist and I didn't like Bush either and I'm ok with gays getting married.
Freshee: Additionally, Keystone will require the use of Eminent Domain, essentially forcing Americans off their land so that a Canadian company can make tons of money, none of which stays in this country. Keystone needs to go. That is one of the few things that Obama has done that I approve of, however, I think he will cave under pressure and...Buffett owns lots of a certain railroad.
Well you got at the part about GingRich and Santorum right, so for that you get an A+.
No, the problem with some of you righties is you don't HOLD Former President BUSH (or any others before him) accountable for their actions. However, its always President Obama's fault for the nations problems. Yep... always always. Seems to me, this started LONG before here, and its NOT going to be fixed in 3.5 years now is it? Guess those deficit interest payments just 'disappeared' didn't they? I know President Obama has not done everything 100%, but I still believe he is the best choice for America right now.
TWO SOURCES that show there was a SURPLUS.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-budget-and-deficit-under-clinton/
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aGqLx61MRY6w
Enjoy.. Isn't it amazing how I can produce factual information that supports it? Lastly, I know you are quite clear that Congress (Article I) is responsible for the debt right... so how can the blame be placed on any President technically???
Amazes me how some righties just place the whine and complain game... but cannot offer any solution on the problems facing this nation, nor accept that their 'conservative' ways have added to the problem.... shakes head...
P.S. Please get on the Ballot in November, I am sure with your super vast knowledge you could do so much better. :-)
Amazing how quickly the pro-Obama folks will make excuses for all of his actions by blaming Bush, over and over and over....when does Obama become responsible? It's almost four years into his presidency and it was like Bush never left office. Never, ever will Obama be culpable for anything, unless, by accident, something good happens in which case he and his supporters will be crowing about it from the rooftops.
Just bring them along slowly, Mr. Romney. The leftylibdems are slow to learn & slow to change. But that's ok. Slowly and surely the hubris surrounding BO is dissapating revealing the inexperienced, socialistic, and liberation minded core. Nearly everything he is associated with is vanishing like a fart in the wind...Arab spring, jobs, improving economy, health care, immigration solutions, tax reform, trust, transparency, compromise, manufacturing, alternative & renewable energy, global warming.
The way forward is simply to brace against the vilification, distortion, half-truths and no truths, personal attacks, and blaming that will be hurled with million dollar velocity. We expect no less from such a half-pint as BO. Drink up, smoke up, & snort up Mr. President. You've been in daze most of your life.
When faced with the facts, it's always something, isn't it?
So then, why are all the conservatives complaining about President Obama's record on job creation?
Put the blame where it belongs -- on Congress.
You mean like his famous standoff against Newt Gingrich over the REPUBLICAN government shutdown which eventually ended with Newt Gingrich getting bounced out of Congress? Indeed.
And then, what was George W. Bush's excuse?
You might be interested to know that a BIG chunk of Ronald Reagan's job growth record was a result of PUBLIC SECTOR hiring, whereas President Obama has actually been cutting the federal workforce, as have the states been cutting their public sector jobs.
http://www.politicususa.com/unlike-ronald-reagan-obama-doesnt-use-government-hiring-to-create-jobs.html
And by the way, in addition to public sector hiring, Ronald Reagan also raised taxes multiple times.
And I might remind you that HE had a Democratic-controlled Congress.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/08/news/economy/reagan_years_taxes/index.htm
Really, boys, if you're going to play in the big league, it might be helpful to have some understanding of basic facts.
wow!!! Romney is going to reduce your taxes by 20%.
maybe then some of you can go out and get your own health care plan.
unAmerican --
Read the post above and come back next week and we can compare notes, especially as related to the 1986 tax reform act. You will also remember that Clinton inherited George H.W. Bush's recession, which was really Ronald Reagan's recession, and not caused by Gulf War spending. The recession was caused by Reagan's being forced to bail out all the S&Ls because of the laws that he signed that drove them into the ditch, causing the deficit to triple during his term in office.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush
Reagan passed off his own financial meltdown onto George H.W. Bush, just like George W. Bush passed his off to President Obama.
Droll, indeed.
obamanomics suck!!!!
obama's plan came from the great kenyan economic plan.
@ItsAboutTime-3704531
Translation- "GEORGE BUSH, GEORGE BUSH, GEORGE BUSH"
I rest my case
Also, I'm not a "righty", I'm a libertarian who spent 8 years bitching about George Bush. Now I'm bitching about Barack Obama because he is no better. But you partisan hacks on both sides will never see the fault in your own which is why we keep going back and forth from one party to the other as if it's made some difference. Anyone who bitches about Bush while praising Obama, or vice versa, is little more than a puppet unwilling to think for themselves.
And neither explain the increase in the debt so I guess it just never happened right? As if conservatives couldn't come up with as many or more sources discrediting the surplus lol. Like all hacks, both sides will only see what they want to see but as always the numbers speak for themselves. Can't have an increase in the debt if we didn't spend more than we took in now can we?
Correction to a couple of my posts above -- The name is Nick Hanauer. Here's an excerpt:
One thing that really struck me is his point that small businesses don't create jobs any more than big businesses (or rich entrepreneurs like him), and that people, including Dems need to stop this myth as well.
Anywho, mea culpa.
And another note of interest. I just realized in a review of the Norquist pledge that ending loopholes/subsidies (or tax credits), which are actually tax expenditures, must be replaced with equal tax cuts in order not to be considered tax hikes. Revenue from ending tax expenditures cannot be used to pay down deficits.
Think about it. Let it sink in. I always knew Norquist was a twit but how stupid can one get?
Romney says that half the kids that graduate from college can't find jobs. His solution is to cut the number of kids that go to college. That works. It;s the usual Republican illogic... concluding, therefor, that we are wasting our money providing college educations. Great.
Let me state right off that I'm impressed that Romney seems to want to operate above the fray by putting out a day-one plan versus a direct message of hate. Maybe knowing you have 100s of millions in super PACs rolling out the misinformation and hate helps with that, but at least he appears to be trying.
Regarding Keystone: If you're ready to skip environmental concerns for oversold hype, vote Romney. The states involved with the decision agree with Obama. 20,000 temporary jobs now to ultimately replace the current mostly labor driven distribution network is DESIGNED to provide fewer long term jobs... truckers, handlers, storage facility maintenance. And in the midwest it will raise prices because it will eliminate their current oil supply... and my bet is that most of the oil and/or it's finished producs will be exported.
Regarding Taxes: Biggest f^cking joke I've seen in a long time... and it's on us. This is simply sh!tload of pandering to the rich and big businesses in an effort to make them wait for Romney before investing in America. False-floor promises like this... ones that are irresponsible and virtually impossible to implement... do nothing but cause pause. And THAT's what Romney is attempting to do: Pause the economy and land more big donors. That money sitting in investor pockets? Waiting for the largess and fat-cat days promised by Romney. Is that what we want? Not me.
Regarding Health Care: Pandering. Undo the plan modeled after HIS plan to put WHAT PLAN in place? Neither Romney or the GOP have ever said how they would lower health care costs. Why? because they know that the first step to lowering costs is to get control of the profit taking in the industry. It requires even more government focus to rid us of the fraud. So unless Romney is for single -payer, he has no solution I give a sh!t about. THAT's why he says as little as possible. He has to say it to comfort his base and to rid himself of the Romney-care issue, but that is all.
The bottom line? Except for being serious about furthering the richness of his close friends, his "day-one" list is nothing... 20,000 jobs that are NOT when we need millions of jobs, tax savings for the rich on the backs of who?, and Romney-care redux.
We can argue the difficult facts around government spending, but whether Clinton in fact had a surplus or not is not the point... it was close to balanced no matter how you cut it.
And we can argue that Bush was victimized by 911... and, yes, he was... but his unfunded spending blew out any president in our history. He did not fund, or even attempt to fund, two wars, Homeland Security, Medicaid, and his tax cuts. His spending without funding left a legacy with momentum... the "Bush Debt Train" continued to add over $500 Billion a year to our debt long after he was gone. Obama had nothing to do with it and could not have stopped it and McCain wouldn't have either.
And we can quote Obama numbers all day long, but we MUST take into account an economy handed to him that was contributing ANOTHER $500 Billion in annual debt because of fewer tax revenues. So what was Obama's starting point and arguably Bush's legacy was $1 Trillion per year in deficits that could not be touched without a full economic recovery. Unless you take these facts into account, you cannot correctly assess Obama's performance. And unless you look at what a McCain COULD or WOULD have done, you have not assessed the impact of your vote in the last election.
Personally, I would much rather have measured economic actions focused on people and investments in our future than a strategy that relies on making the rich and big business rich and big enough to not care about demand for success. Think we have a 1% gap today? Elect Romney and see what you get.
It is interesting, NOW, the MSM and the Dems demand specific details about Mr. Romney's plan, but when Mr. Obama was coming to power and stated that he was going to," fundamentally change", the United States of America, not a peep, even though if you look," fundamental" change up in the dictionary, the meaning IS "radical", change,and when combined with the known radicals, communists, and extremists,associations from Mr. Obama's past, (that the MSM knew about but failed to report),and other statements he had made, such as, that under his plan energy prices would necessarily have to skyrocket,and wealth redistribution was a good thing,You would think at least one of our noble "watchdog reporters", would have shown at least slight interest in an explanation, but........nothing........kind of makes You wonder doesn't it.
I get so tired of politicians saying whatever they want and hoping "the little people" buy it.
Thanks, Lis Smith. I could not have said it better. How quickly voters forget the mentality that got the economy here in the first place. Many voters are willing to return to old ways just to get rid of the current administration.
Old habits die hard - and I am not so sure these habits (oil consumption, credit spending) will die.
It scares you to think that we're about to find out, doesn't it?
let's see, build a pipe line through the US for Canada. Hey how many of you guys are Pipe Fitters? Not that many, I guess that you will have to go to trade school. That'll cost you money. Than you can go and make some money. After the pipe line is built where are you and all the other 50,000 going to go a few years later? My guess is your butt is going right back to the same chair it is in right now. What's that....your going to go work in a ship building yard? They are not known to hire pipe fitters....different kind of weilder. You remember the Alaskan Pipe Line? I have friends that went there and came back and are no better off than when they left. I guess a short term job makes employment look good for a while, and it does help the economy. Personally I rather have a job that covers that time frame and beyond. All I see Ol' Mitt talking about is short term, public knowledge stuff. The planning on these projects usually take longer than the job last. Yes I'm one of those "Swing Voters" and have been one years before they coined me that way. I not only look at both sides of the coin but the edge as well. To me there're 3 sides to every coin.
ItsAboutTime-3704531 "How about in the last 50 Years Roy:"
Quoting a biased liberal site like POLITICO is hardly credible, and my detailed records only go back to 1969, but here are the results for the average number of jobs created under Republican and Democratic Presidents over the last 42 years since then - Based on the official government Bureau of Labor Statistics web site;
Jobs created UNDER Republican Presidents = 32,193,000 net new jobs in 27 years.
Jobs created UNDER Democratic Presidents = 28,453,000 net new jobs in 15 years.
But as I mentioned, the legislative agenda (pro vs anti business) is set by CONGRESS, not the President, and when you look at the jobs picture from that perspective, Republican Congresses helped 'create' 23,239,000 net new jobs over 10 years, vs only 8,605,000 net new jobs under Democratic Congresses over 12 years.
It would appear that Republican Congresses are able to foster about 3 times as much job growth as Democratic Congresses, which is not surprising, since Democratic Congresses tend to pile on costs and regulations, while Republican Congresses tend to focus on economic/jobs growth.
LMarcT -- We know the Teapublicans have been willing to throw the American people under the bus by obstructing efforts to improve the economy. And we know this with certainty after learning about the meeting they had on the president's inauguration day.
The point you make about the outrageous promises Romney makes, such as 20% tax cuts being a way to stall the economy is disconcerting. We know the rightwing likes their red meat, and I'm thinking all these lies are just to get votes. But based on the GOP/TP track record, I wouldn't put it past Rove and others helping Romney to dangle carrots in an attempt to put the economy on hold.
Anna Molly -- Republicans like Tom Coburn have had it with Norquist, largely because of crap like not being able to end subsidies or loophole/tax credits, which are tax expenditures, and furthermore represent a trillion -- yeah, it's a huge amount of revenue lost. According to Coburn, Norquist changes his "rules" like he changes his underwear, in this case saying the trillion of revenue has to be swapped for another trillion in tax cuts. If this revenue is used as to pay down the debt, then it is a "tax hike"--by Norquist's definition. It's crazy talk.
This is why I'm hoping more and more Republicans will walk away from the Norquist pledge (aside from the unconstitutional nature of pledges to anyone other than constituents). They realize we have the lowest taxes right now in modern history, and it can't go any lower. They realize revenue will be needed to reduce deficits, and not just spending cuts alone (all though they won't come out and say it this way).
Which brings me full circle to LMarcT's point about Romney's impossible tax cut proposal, and just what is behind such nonsense. Paul Ryan's desire to destroy every New Deal program is nothing new. But this business of adding even more tax cuts for the rich in addition to the current Bush tax cuts--this is perhaps far more insidious than we'd like to think.
Of course I give reserved credit to Tom Coburn, because the Bush tax cuts are about to expire and the debt ceiling needs to be raised again (debt they know was caused by Dubya's administration), and they know they don't have any leverage this time around. Rep. Rush Holt, who is a wonk, said Republicans need to base decisions on facts (imagine that), because he says once they actually look at the numbers they will also realize defense spending is what needs to be cut.
The president is likely to go out and promote another Jobs Bill, right on. And thank goodness for the lawsuit against the filibuster...
ItsAboutTime-3704531
Since both Congress and the President should share in 'bragging rights' for job creation when they are controlled by different parties (Congress passes the laws that help job growth, but the President still has to agree and sign the bills), so let's take a look at the results when one Party holds both houses of Congress AND the Presidency. While that happened for only 8 years over the last 30 years (4 years for each Party), here are the results - Again, based on average jobs created according to the official government Bureau of Labor Statistics;
Under a Republican President and Congress = 5,745,000 net jobs added.
Under a Democratic President and Congress = - 1,351,000 net jobs LOST.
Again, it appears that a Republican Congress is good for job growth, while a Democratic Congress is not.
ROY,
POLITICO is not a liberal site, it leans Right and according to former President George Bush it is the only site he reads regularly.
Job Creation (millions)
Republican: Ike = 3.5, Nixon = 9.4, Ford = 1.8, Reagan = 16.0, Bush41 = 2.5, Busk 43 = 3.0
Democrat: Truman = 8.4, Kennedy = 3.6, Johnson = 11.9, Carter = 10.5, Clinton = 23.1
Average per year (millions)
Republican = 1.006
Democrat = 2.054
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth
.... we feel as though we need a bath just after reading many of the comments to this article...
... in the words of the great philospher Pogo ... 'We have met the enemy ... and he is us ...'
I love these statistics that are thrown out, It's almost like Cancer Treatment Centers of America that promise a cure for this and a cure for that.You can toss numbers around any way you like I guess.
Romney will scale down the government until you have three or four generation living under the same roof, all struggling to survive, while wading through piles of garbage and breathing toxic air to get to a job that pays little to nothing.
I'm sure none of you can say this....I worked on the space-shuttle
You are all a bunch of wish I was smart...My IQ is over150
Can we all just get along or do you want the end is near
Jesus is a Mexican...nothing more...stop being stupid you repubtards
O-yea
I'm pissed off at stupid
Why isn't MSNBC covering this?
According to archive.org, a website that caches websites on a regular basis, the Dystel.com website – the official website for Dystel & Goderich, Obama’s literary agents – was using the Barack Obama “born in Kenya” language until April 2007, just two months after then-Senator Obama declared his campaign for the presidency.
Oh yeah? Better check THIS out before spouting those lies....
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Technically, debt can increase even when there is a surplus. Because the Treasury often issues bonds, people can buy them in a large quantities, which increases the debt. In addition, the government could easily borrow money when there is not a lot of spare cash lying around, or when the surplus is not large enough to fund a particular project.
Look at Carter's contribution to our national debt. Hardly a drop in the bucket. But then consider the 12 years of Reagan/Bush. They quadrupled the national debt. They started the country down the rad to where we are now.
Mike Fillmore -- Because mainstream media like MSNBC does not wear tinfoil hats like you. If you Google Dystel & Godrcih, you can't find any credible website or information per your conspiracy theory post. My guess is this is yet another lie spread by emails you received from your crazy uncle.
gillanator -- The GOP/TP obsession with debt/deficits is CYA propaganda to appease Tea Party extremism. In reality Republicans have never been concerned about debt/deficits, and they still aren't. As Boehner stood there and threatened another debt ceiling debacle, the House passed a bill increasing Pentagon spending above the agreed-upon levels in the debt deal.
In addition to increased defense spending, both Paul Ryan's Budget and Romney's plans have additional tax cuts for the rich. The increased defense spending and additional tax cuts for the rich will add huge amounts to the deficit/debt.
We already know their plan to create jobs is to put trickle-down tax cuts for the rich on steroids (please see the post above about Nick Hanauer, an American entrepreneur and venture capitalist who makes it clear that consumers create jobs, not the rich/businesses), and their plan to fix health care is to "repeal and replace" without the replace part.
But if anyone really believes the GOP/TP and/or Romney are serious about reducing the debt/deficits, they must be living on Newt's moon base because it's a complete LIE.
A recommendation -- Today's program on Up with Chris Hayes is the best I've seen to date. You can stream the video via Internet -- Just go to the program's website to launch it. The panel and high-level, intellectual discussion is NOT what you'll get from FOX Noise.
Why hasn't anybody pointed out that romney SAYS he is gonna do better but hasn't explained thoroughly HOW. The pipeline thing and other things sound promising but what if it doesn't last also how is it nobody in nbc pointed out the character assasination from obama that romney discussed seemed hypocritical as this is politics i seen many romney approved commercials questionably bordering the degrading line for obama...
How funny is it that now everyone wants to hear the Romney plan, but 3.5 years later no one knows what the Obama plan is and no one seems to care. Tax, borrow, print, spend is no plan.
Were they describing Obama's plan or Romney's. Mr. Pot, I'd like you to meet Mr. Kettle.
Since Brent Sea June oil contracts yield $106 a barrel and Nymex West Texas crude is $91 a barrel which reflects the glut of oil in the midwest, it seems reasonable that increasing the oil flow from the midwest will lower prices on the world market. This seems obvious to most Americans.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303448404577409993978825330.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
What do we ever know about a potential presidents plan? Look at what is going on now as a result of the last election. If President Obama had predicted the current unemployment rate, current deficit and the current rate of growth would he have won? Don't make excuses or blame others this is his economy now. It seems to me he grossly overstated the results of his schemes. Now Romney is for better or worse doing the same thing and the premise that we are not sure what his promises will mean is laughable considering the last 3.5 years. Where were the warnings that the promises of hope and change were just a bunch of BS from the same "journalists" who are now skeptical. For these shills to be skeptical now is the height of hypocrisy. We know what we have and we didn't know what he was in 2008 now we don't know what will happen if we change now but my question is did we really know what to expect when we were saddled with hope and change the answer is obvious and it is always is, elections are about selling dreams, administrations are about measurable results and taking responsibility for those results.
gee whiz, big mac, our IQ is only a paultry 142, but our neice's is 150 .. though we must tell you that her grammar is infinitely better than yours :c) ... may we gather that you CLEP'd out of English, then?
But we know where we were at in 2008. We were sliding into depression 2.0, and now because Obama didn't deliver on all of his promises we want to return to the same policies that took us from a 4.0 % unemployment rate to 7.6 % unemployment rate. nearly doubling our national debt. Two unfunded wars. The longest in our nations history. One which our citizens were lied to in order obtain world and national support to invade. And George H. W. Bush has endorsed Romney, just like he endorsed his son. So the right wants to go right back to the failed policies that has put us in the 2008 crisis because Obama didn't deliver on everything.
Voice of Doom,
Just a passing observation, but I must point out that your "paltry" 142 IQ would apparently be better served if you learned how to spell as well as your "niece" knows grammar. However, I do concur that Big Mac could certainly improve the style of his prose.
gillanator, you will get no argument on those points .... we happen to believe that the ability of a President to improve the economy is overestimated, but as a large part of setting the national mood, a President can assuredly tank it.
We are waving no flags for the ex Governor of Massachusetts. We might also mention that we came of voting age during the Carter administration ... a good, decent and intelligent man, to be sure, but we well remember how lovely a shape things were in after that four years. We support candidates ... never parties ... ever.
JC, well, sometimes we simply must roll with the flow, you know ... and spot on (but we do not claim to be even a superb speller, much lest a good typist). We did find the combination of his declarative and style .... somewhat ... divergent. This said, we can surely never claim never to write poorly ... almost two decades of technical writing has almost certainly softened our gray matter, and our skills.
VOD,
Believe me when I tell you, I understand exactly what you mean. Attempting to convey information in a manner that is appropriate for the lowest common denominator has a tendency to be mind numbing.
I must agree with your observation that a President can negatively affect the mood of the country. President Obama has missed the mark in my opinion because he has failed to do what was necessary to work with Congress to get the job done.
A smart Wall Street manager who makes about $150 million a year made a great point about the importance of a strong middle class. His income is equal to about 3,000 average household incomes.
He said: “I own 3 cars but I’m not going to buy 3000 cars. While I love my job and believe that people should be allowed to make as much money as they can, I also know that without a strong, well paid middle class that can afford to purchase homes, cars and other commodities our country will not thrive.”
But Romney want more tax cuts for the wealthy while putting more burdens on the poor and middle class.
I saw that guy last evening on O'Donnells show, Dennis. Truer words have never been spoken.
As for Willards plan......, It's Paul Ryans Path to
ProsperityAusterity which he embraced.The gentleman's name is Nick Hanauer, and his speeches/seminars on how the economy is an ecosystem are very enlightening.
Dennis, When did Romney say that is what he wanted?
Well said, consumers are the real job creators. Our economy depends on consumers to purchase 70% of our output and we are simply out of balance. We have the ability to produce way more than we can afford to purchase 70% of.
Rocco,
He endorsed the Ryan budget (calls it marvelous) and that
is exactly what the Ryan proposed budget/plan does.
Rocco, right after Ryan put his plan out. I believe Romney referred to it as a marvelous plan.
Even Ryan admitted that he never intended for it get past the Senate. He just wanted to pull the Democrats chain.
Dennis , your smart wall street guy should be the one running for president! First bit of common sense I have heard on the vine in a very long time. Like forever?
Well Rocco, you have probably been telling all of your friends how wonderful a flat tax would be. It's great for the wealthy because their taxes go down AGAIN, and for poor and middle class, the taxes go UP. The greatest burden goes on the people who can least afford it, tax breaks go to those who need them least, and the treasury doesn't get what it needs to beat the deficit. It's a swell plan for the wealthy. They get to win yet another battle in class warfare.
Wayne, Wrong again. Dennis, I beleive Ryans plan also called for tax cuts for everyone along with tax reform to close loopholes for the rich.
Dennis,
The article clearly states 20% cut across the board and the closing of loopholes including mortgage deduction on your second home so your statement is false.
The Obama budget for the third failed to receive one vote in either the House of Democratically controlled Senate so do you think that is a serious plan
Rocco, a flat tax would close all of the loop holes because the wealthy wouldn't need them anymore. They would have won. We will have lost. The government would die a slow, agonizing, debt ridden death. I have been reading what it was like for Civil War veterans with a pension of 8 bucks a month. With no safety net, it was horrific to see how many ended it all when they could no longer support themselves. With Romney's marvelous plan, that would be where we are going.
Wayne ABSOLUTELY! Any one who argues for a flat tax either does not understand the purpose of our marginal tax system or is trying to exploit it.
and Rocco the deductions Romney has suggested such as a mortgage interest deduction all have upper limits on them which puts a greater burden on middle class. Lets say a specific deduction has an upward limit of $200,000 and the tax rate is 10%. An average person making 100,000 has a tax deductible asset worth 100,000 so he can claim his full deduction. a rich person making 1,000,000 has a tax deductible asset worth 1,000,000 so he can only claim 200,000. Removing that deduction causes the average man's taxes you to go up 10,000 dollars and it causes the rich person's to go up 20,000.
10,000 is 10% of the average guys salary and causes a tax increase of 100% where as 20,000 is 2% of the rich man's salary and causes a tax inrease of 20%. A very poor person probably does not have the asset in the first place and is uneffected.
Sorry for all the math but that is how these policies directly target the middle class and not the rich. Those who are the most well off lose the least base as a % of income. I personally do not think that makes sense.
Jerry,
But he doesn’t say what programs he will cut to offset the tax cuts and he has said he will increase Defense spending. We also know to achieve the revenue needed for his plan he counts on unemployment below 4% which we haven’t seen in this country in almost 50 years.
He also doesn’t talk about the over $6 trillion he will add to our National debt taking it to $22 trillion.
Hi, folks. Drive By Observer here. Of course, that's not my real name- my real name is 'Buzz". Anyway...Heh Heh Heh....if you write me in, and I win in November, on my FIRST day, heres' what will happen:
Breast cancer and Alzheimers will be cured. Hunger in the world will cease to exist. Little girls will not get their hearts broken by wishy-washy boys. Cars will get 567 miles per gallon, and that gas will cost 35 cents a gallon.
Neat huh? Well, don't you believe me? I mean, I SAID it didn't I??? That makes it so, you know.
Anyway, thanks for your write in vote later this year.
Are you and those like ever going to tire of the "more burdens on the poor and middle class" comments. FYI: The USSR, as a socialist state, had an elite, ruling 10%, who called the shots for the other 90%. They executed the czarists and became czars themselves. The poor and middle class have the same opportunity today to make each day count and add up to something more that will accumulate into much more unless they're physically ill or handicapped or mentally incapacitated by their own stinking thinking. American History is filled with people who made themselves into something more than they were by believing in themselves and the opportunity they'd been given. That's what we don't have today that we need to fix what's wrong with the nation. Forget race, gender, and orientation issues --- it's all about the economy and the ability to feel like you're getting ahead, because you spend far less than you earn and what you buy with your money, other than basic staples, doesn't diminish in value.
I just read his speech. man, I've been saying that all along (I know I'm just a peon, but I'm a peon with common sense). Without a middle class as consumers, businesses just ain't gonna bring on more help, and a couple of millionaires just doesn't buy like a few thousand middle-class folks
drive-by
throw in free ice cream and you've got my vote
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA (from the audio book version of "Dream of My Father"): I spent the last two years of high school in a daze, rank beer heavily, and tried drugs enthusiastically.
Hmmm one has to wonder what he did in College, really if you used drugs/booze the way he did in HS. Did you go to college and say.....you know what I'm not going to be myself.....Im going to be......... really?
In college he obviously did very well. Better than "W" by a mile. Summa cum laude sounds good to me. That is fact. Maybe you don't know what that means Jolly Old. Google it.
I hope Mutt picks Paul Ryan for his veep.
SNL can portray them as Herman and Eddie Munster.
Mutt can jump up and down saying goodie, goodie, goodie, goodie, goodie, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA while clapping his hands.
Denise -- What does "across the board" mean to you?
What Hanouer said is oddly reminiscent of what a real capitalist said:
Henry Ford
Henry Ford also realized that in order to keep his company growing, he had to have a large middle class, able to purchase the vehicles. What the modern Repblican party fails to understand, if they continue to destroy the middle class and kill off the poor, their will be no one left in the united states.
Ben,
From the article: The centerpiece of Romney's plan would include a permanent, across-the-board reduction of 20 percent for all income tax brackets.
See Ben he was talking about taxes not spending. So yes he has said he would increase Defense spending.
Wayne, Pssst, Bush isn't running but did barack do better than Romney? Maybe you don't know what simultaneous JD and masters in business means...google it. Compare that to God knows what barack studied and a law degree that barack doesn't even hold a license to practice anymore. Why did he and Michelle both give up their law license? ...google it. Buy the way it's; "Summa Cum laude" but even at that; don't you think barack would be proud of that and release his transcripts? Seems that the upper of the upper would have no problem bragging about what classes they studied and what grades they got to achieve it...that is unless they didn't. But wait, you say it's a fact so it must be true. Show me the transcripts, I'll eat my words and apologize for doubting it. Why in the hell would an ego like barack not release college transcripts if he were Summa Cum Laude? Anyone? Anyone?
Have you seen some of the babbling idiots that can get their law degree? Some of the biggest dirt bags on the face of the earth are lawyers not to mention some of the most ignorant fools. Law degrees are becoming cracker jack prizes that's why the market is totally saturated with struggling attorneys. Go ahead and show me all of the unsuccessful people who carry a JD in business from Ivy league schools. Go ahead and demonstrate how dumb they are.
Romney runs intellectual circles around barack.
*Hope for change, anyone but barack 2012*
Dennis...nice lie you tell. That is what all ignorant people do when they don't have the intelligence to debate with actual facts. Roney does not want "more tax cuts" for the rich. He just doesn't want to raise taxes because NO nation in the HISTORY of civilization has ever taxed itself to prosperity. He also knows that the US was not founded byu Robin Hood.
Something tells me that there is going to be a huge run on anti depressents, if not for everyone on this blog, when Romney wins. George Bush...8 years...8 trillion in debt. Obama...4 years...15 trillion in debt. Are you better off now than you were 15 trillion dollars ago. Face facts people, and stop drinking the Kool Aid. Your Imperial Ruler Of The World has ruined this nation. Muslim Underground invited to the White House. Listened to Rev. Wright for 20 years, as he spewed his hatred against whites. At least Romney won't have to worry about people calling him a socialist, or worse, a communist. Come November 7th, We can all sing, ding dong the witch is dead...Now get the hell out of our White House.
@jollly, how does that differ from Dubya's drinking binges in college? At least Obama's willing to admit he's human and has made mistakes, which makes him more down-to-earth than Romney.
@antisocilism (wow, you can't even spell socialism) Obama's of the Muslim underground. Sounds like you are the one drinking the Kool-Aid. I hope Romney isn't worrying about people calling him a socialist, because he better be more worried about delivering on the unrealistic promises he made.
vball14, umm... when and why did the USA implement the income tax and how powerful was it internationally before and after?
One of the first things the Founding Fathers' did was create a system of taxation; but, they did achieve representation.
Want to have Romney's plan spoonfed by the media or just read it on his website
Drive by...........I really like your platform, very convincing goals and I'm sure you have a plan to accomplish each one........the free ice cream would get my vote too.
Dennis, You are worried about Willard running the deficit up another 6 trillion, yet You are all behind President Obama, when He has run it up over 5 trillion in 3 years 5 month's. That is a fact, while You are speculating that Willard's plan will run it up 6, and that is a deal breaker for You, yet You are still loving Barry ? Explain the logic behind that ????
Mitt's dog days are coming ???????
Sound a lot like the life of Bush Jr., neither could possibly become president after THAT!
oh wait.......
Dennis...
So what programs will obama cut? After all many of his campaign speeches and state of the union addresses were for reducing regulations, tax reform and reducing the tax code. Let's not forget his willingness to put another $600 billion in entitlement cuts he was willing to trade for additional revenue. Revenue that was automatically going to increase with his tax cut (bush2) plan expiring in 2013. Always found it interesting that obama never mentioned this automatic increase, but rather always wanted more revenue without a defined spending reduction plan.
Heck of a deal when the incumbant (obama) has simply hit his generic 2008 "hope and change" replay button and labeling it something else... Perhaps his new campaign slogan will be "I deserve a 2nd chance".
No, but there is another form of totalitarian governance that comes to mind.
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini
Drive By........Include legalizing pot with that ice cream n you'll get millions of votes, mine included. >:o):
As far as Mittens, maybe he SHOULD take a toke or two.....or 3...4...4...oh..wait!!...5....hehehe
(You do know, John Lennon was right. All you need is LOVE!! You see, with love comes a desire to understand....understanding leads to a Peace that is Heaven Sent.)
Much Love to All, even Mittens >:o):
Da Pup
>:o):PurRrRrrRrRrRrrrrr
Perhaps because we'd rather not see that 6 trillion go to Wall Street and the to 1% of the country.
Right. And how about his advice to the young people of this country to borrow money from their parents to start businesses. Huh? Now, how many poor and middle class parents do you know that have that kind of money laying around? So, I guess if your folks are rich, no problemo. The guy just does not get it and you people so anxious to get rid of Obama better think long and hard before you vote for Romney.
Day One of President Romney is more accomplished in one day than what we have gotten in 3 years, 3 months, 28 days, 7 hours, and 5 minutes of Obama. January 20 cannot come fast enough. Just remember, 5 days before the election in 2008, Obama said, "We are 5 days away from FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORMING the United States of America." Well, at the very least we now know what that means. Transforming a first world country that leads the world into a third world banana republic. And don't forget what he told former Russian President Medvedev (when he thought he wasn't being heard), "This is my last election ... After my election I have more flexibility." More flexibility for what Mr. President? You have already transformed this country, as much as you have been allowed to this point, now what? Oh, that's right, you can totally give away the store with no regard for the rule of law this country was founded on.
171 days until you are voted out. 247 days until you are out of a job.
That it will affect all taxpayers. Unfortunately, across the board tax cuts don't always benefit the lower-income taxpayers, as tax rates are already low for them that it won't affect them that much.
First of all, if Romney did not want more tax cuts for the rich, than he wouldn't cut their taxes by an average of $250,000, would he??? It is true that no country can tax it's way to prosperity; nor can it cut it's way to prosperity. History cuts both ways. Could Rome have survived the Punic Wars had it cut taxes and reduced spending??? Could Great Britain have cut spending and taxes while fighting Nazi Germany during World War II??? Could we have cut taxes and spending in order to get out of the Great Depression???? Hell no. You don't cut taxes when you have trillion-dollar deficits; you raise them. Very few economists agree that tax cuts for the wealthy create jobs; even fewer say that cutting spending would cause economic growth. The only reason why people don't want taxes raised is because they have been brainwashed by conservatives into thinking that the government is a "bloated and ineffective bureaucracy," which is true at times. Yet that tax money goes to things like schools, defense, infrastructure, things like that. We all have to understand that the days of low taxes are over. In order to fix our deficit, income inequality, and our economy, we need everyone to pay their fair share, and that includes the top 1% and those that don't pay taxes that can (those who are not poor). No society ever prospered because their citizens didn't pay their fair share.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
The citizenry of this country will never be allowed, even a facisimile of apportioned equality, within the dictums of governance under a republican controlled government. Republican party is, will be, and was established, to build and maintain "plutocratic" governance by and through the capricious whimsy of rotating committees of oligarchs. From It's inception, the history of republicanism offers no basic variation other than the administrations of Theodore Roosevelt, and most of the first term of Dwight Eisenhower. Relative to the longer history of the party though, one could rightly conclude these two men were not fundamentally averse to party aims as much as both were caught in, and forced to serve pre determined populist (democratic) political dynamics.
Now, regarding President Barack Obama. Truthfully, not since the Presidency of "Andrew Johnson" has an American president been so handled and abused by a hostile congress, and a totally upside down national social, political, and economic environment. To judge His accomplishments, or lack thereof, without considering the weight of such historical impediments, is to judge the sound quality of a Stradivarius absent strings. I like this President, and will vote for Him. Without a supporting Congress though, the country will not gain its footing.
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Gallup State Numbers Predict Huge Obama Loss?
Posted on May 15, 2012 by Conservative Byte
http://conservativebyte.com/2012/05/gallup-state-numbers-predict-huge-obama-loss/
Obama's Approval Plunges Below Worst-Ever President Carter
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Obama-Carter-Gallup-approval/2011/11/29/id/419436?s=al&promo_code=D9C0-1
@"honest jo"-
If you think Carter was the worst president, then you know little history. Besides, Carter has headed a lot of humanitarian issues, among other accomplishments, check it out before you stick your foot in your mouth. In my opinion, one of the worst presidents was W. Wilson who allowed us to get involved in a war that was none of our damn business, WORLD WAR ONE !!
Even George W. Bush (with all his critics) invaded Iraq only after Saddam threatened the use of WMD's(weapons of mass destruction) of which he had, and already used on the Kurds. It's called MUSTARD GAS (it was used in WWI and can cause blindness and death) for all the cry babies who keep whining about Saddam not having "WMD'S". Saddam threatened Israel (the only democracy in the region)and killed his own countrymen with chemical weapons (aka: "WMD's") and to make matters worse, he picked the absolute stupidest timeframe to "rattle the saber", shortly after the World Trade Tower attacks. I have personally seen "Google" images of a junked passenger airliner positioned in Iraq for terrorist highjacking training purposes. These images were not even broadcast on national news, I'm not sure why ?
If you want to complain about "bad" presidents, then look up Garfield and Hayes and some others, and you might look at Jimmy Carter differently, unless you are "brainwashed"(fictional term as people allow themselves to be manipulated) by FOX "NEWS" and Rush Limbaugh ?
I can understand why poor people vote for Republicans, when you've got a Democratic president making comments like "what's with all these guns and bibles?". In doing so he humors his followers yet alienates middle voters. Yes the Republicans have done a good job of convincing a portion of America that "they" are against "big government" but what baloney they spew out, in the interest of their own careers and kickbacks.
Romney has how much money in a Swiss bank account ? I heard it is 3 million dollars, which seems very ironic considering the Republicans are tooting their horns about being such big patriots. Also Michelle Bachmann is married to a Swiss national, and is eligible for a dual citizenship, hmmm...more overt patriotism on behalf of the Republicans. The last time I checked, Romney follows a religion founded by Joseph Smith, a polygamist. Smith was forced to move on more than one occasion because of his polygamy. This is the guy the Republican front runner believes in ? Is Mitt wearing denim again ? Did Mitt get his "car elevator" built yet ? What kind of fiscal example is Mitt Romney demonstrating by tearing down a mansion only to build another one ? What in sam hill has he ever said that was even close to meaningful ? He whines about President Obama and the economy, but what has he proposed ? The economic problems started long before George W. Bush and "Shotgun" Dick Cheney.
Does anyone remember the corrupt banking schemes of the 1980's ? Does anyone remember when Japan was buying up property in the midwest ? There were only 2 presidents who used presidential power of creating "interest-free" money through the U.S. Treasury Department not the Federal Reserve Bank, and both were shot in the head, Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy. So enough with the baby talk about these economic problems beginning 8 years ago, and now Mitt Romney the man who follows a polygamist religion is going top magically resolve things ?
Translation: "Mitt Romney will do exactly the same things that George W. Bush did that led to the financial crisis. But we think it'll work this time around."
not to mention rehiring those Bush-era neo-con hawks currently flocking to advise him on foreign policy.
i think the term you are looking for is Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. a quote from an famous person Albert Einstein
Now I know that the Obozo koolaid is hard to resist (it comes with gubment checks), but the Fair Housing Act (passed under Carter) gave the gov't the leverage to force banks to give those questionable loans.. and Dodd and Frank protected Fannie and Freddie when Bush tried to stop them from buying up all those bad loans (so far costing taxpayers $160 Billion), and the Clinton dereg of banks let Fannie and Freddie package them as securities and sell them to 401Ks (so investors took a soaking too)... bottom line.. Liberals engineered the wealth redistribution scheme that gave houses to people with no business getting them... and the plantlife that got and then defaulted on those mortgages are what killed the housing market and the economy, and forced banks into insolvency... but I don't expect any of you that the Blamer-in-Chief has on his Welfare Plantation to understand.. you just want to keep getting those handouts...
Clearly facts and logic are driving Fed Up crazy---so knock it off. He can't handle the truth.
yes it is true some people take advantage of welfare and other stuff like that but what about all the people that are dependent on welfare just to live are you going to deny them it and say "go get a job" well ill tell you this IT is harder then you think to get a job and some people just cant work period are you going to say "you are on your own" that would basically be killing them what about our elderly are you going to have them fend for themselves when they are to old to work. if this is what you want then vote for it and i hope you are happy knowing what you have voted for.
Romney would do whatever grover norquist tells him to do on his first day.
If you have the time you need to watch PBS Frontline to learn how the banking crisis started, well before your hated Bush was involved. Not everyone is going to believe what you write just because you believe what your liberal friends keep spewing. PBS is liberal too but at least they get to the truth. Open your eyes and ears and mind, spend an hour to see how things really unraveled. This chain mail nonsense on here is boring.
Well, Willard Rumnuts is going to eliminate PBS, thus Frontline. Get it? Only the media for hire will be left. Try getting the straight story then......
yes it started before bush. but Bush could have lessened the impact by trying to implement polices that would combat the problem before it started spiraling downward into a recession ( should be called a depression but that would be to depressing) but Bush didn't do anything THAT is why people blame Bush because he didn't do anything to stop it
Why are you all so afraid of taking responsibility for your own actions? What ever happened to personal honor?
Corporations take advantage of welfare too !!!!
@ Goldwater....so true
Hey, annoyedperson:
STFU you annoying dweeb. I hope you don't open your mouth again before you get an education.
Lets not make another mistake like "W" again ! "Romney worships the Swastika"
Interesting, I wonder what 1st hand experience obama brought to the table regarding an effective foreign policy in 2009?
The 2008 SOFA agreement dictated our troop withdrawal from Iraq, despite obama wanting to stay. We are still in Afghanistan and the Guantomino prison still exists. Seems that our foreign policy now wants to use drones to invade a sovereign nations airspace or use US troops to violate an allies sovereign rights to carry out an assasination policy. Geezzz, one would have thought he could have at least given a 2 minute warning.
Surprised obama and company no longer spouts off on "so and so must go" or that the russian populace should have protested last years russian elections. Interesting that their really seems to be little changed in foreign policy between bush2 or obama other than advances in technology.
Annoyed person - look to Greece to see what happens when the candy has to be taken away from the populace. Heck of a deal when the borrower has to abide by the conditions set forth by the lender. You make it sound like it should be "business as usual" instead of reform to create a sustainable system. Whatever did we do prior to SS, medicare and the war on poverty?
Patriotic american, Joseph Goebbels would be so proud of you...
BTW, you do realize that no American president has the same social-economic conditions as a previous president. Even obama hasn't followed FDR's plans.
Annoyed person, yep the democrats sure did spout off with warnings, right? LMAO!
The point is this 'Day One' will never come for real to Romney and fortunately for all other Americans.
Well, well, well looks like all the sheeple are out to play tonight. And their shepherd is still leading them astray. Good Lord, people, how much more of "yes sir, may I have another" can you take to make sure you don't turn against your Messiah. I am so glad I'm my own person and don't feel the need to be such a follower.
To those suggesting Republicans tend towards war, please learn the cost. Democrats Truman & Kennedy/Johnson - Korean War: 35,000 US fatalities, Vietname War: 58,000 US fatalities. Republicans Bush and Bush - Gulf War: 850 US fatalities, Iraq/Afghanistan: 6,000 US fatalities.
Leftylibdem constantly confuse a strong military/defense to ensure US and our allies protection with committing troops and putting them in harms way.
Here’s the rundown on Mitt Romney’s devastating record as CEO of Bain Capital, a tenure marked by bankruptcies, bailouts, and mass layoffs — all while Romney and his partners raked in billions of dollars in profits for the firm and Romney himself amassed a quarter-billion dollar fortune.
Romney’s Bain Capital Caused Mass Layoffs, Sent Jobs Overseas
Thousands of Americans were laid off by Bain Capital at companies it purchased, managed, and, at least a quarter of the time, drove into bankruptcy.
Mitt Romney, Job Killer
By ThinkProgress War Room on Jan 9, 2012 at 5:45 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkProgress
Maybe if you liberals would try referencing some unbiased sources this country would be able to move forward.
Romney would be a cash Cow for the 1% !
It's unfair to compare the wars of the past with the wars of the present. There was no such thing as a Javelin guided missile launcher, an AT4, an F-18, or a heat-seeking missile during the 1950s and 60s. Past wars have usually been more costly in lives than modern wars, as technology was based on tactical warfare, not strategic. Nowadays, with modern technology and tactics, few soldiers are killed. Not to mention the fact that today, whenever Americans enter the battlefield it is almost always against an army that is far less technologically advanced than we are. The Chinese had fighter jets during the Korean War while we only had World War II fighters. The Vietnamese got Chinese support, along with Soviet funds and training.
No, we lefty liberals are simply tired of bankrolling foolish wars for unknown reasons and maintaining a large military that is trained to fight the Russians, not insurgents. Having a strong defense does not mean that you have to invade every country that is not your ally, or have a defense budget that is nearly a quarter of all federal expenditures. We don't need a trillion-dollar military. We need one that is smart, efficient, and mobile.
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I wonder myself what Romney's plan is as a 'vulture capitalist'? What does a vulture do? What will a capitalist vampire do? Then is it obvious?
Romney's Day one:
barber for a day for gay people - cutting hair ? you know?
At least Romney HAS a plan. What does Obama have except empty promises?
just because you have a "plan" doesn't mean its a good plan and if you vote just because of that you are an ignorant voter
To have Romney elected President would be a bigger disaster to the United States than the Great Depression.
This country has never elected a business man that was successful as President, and it doesn't look like we have a winner in Romney.
His only plan is to cut taxes and cut spending. Easy said.
@annoyed and @job1, Mr. Romney is an experienced and successful businessman and governor with a plan....not a former community organizer with 3.5 years posing as a POTUS trying out plans like a 6 year old chasing fireflies.
I didn't know Obama could promise that Congress wouldn't stonewall him.
But hey, gotta vote for the dude that advocates more failed 'trickle-down' economics right?
Well, they'd never elected a "community organizer" either... and you can bet they never will again.... see businesses ARE the economy... not govt redistritubion scams... Romney knows how to create wealth.... Obozo only knows how to beg for it or steal it....
Well, they'd never elected a "community organizer" either... and you can bet they never will again.... see businesses ARE the economy... not govt redistritubion scams... Romney knows how to create wealth.... Obozo only knows how to beg for it or steal it....
Wealth for who?
This country has never elected a business man that was successful as President.
As a matter of fact, Warren G. Harding, Herbert Hoover, and George W. Bush were businessmen.
PETER ALLAN piece points out
“One left the country on the verge of a depression, one left the country in a depression, and one presided over such corruption and ineptitude that despite the failings of the other two he still manages to get the lowest ranking of them all. And yet all three made millions of dollars in the private sector before entering politics. All three were successful businessmen (a newspaper publisher, a mining tycoon, and the owner of a professional baseball team). Bush 43 even went to Harvard business school, like Romney, and like Romney promised to bring business principles to the Oval Office.”
I don’t think the nation needs another business as President. I will stick with the Community Organizer, Harvard Law Professor, U.S. Senator and Current President of the United States.
Job 1
His only plan is to cut taxes and cut spending. "
That would be a great plan.
Better then Spend and let grandkids worry and pay for it. Maybe you don't love kids. I know you hate America by how you vote and talk. I happen to like my kids and I do not want them to be saddled with the debt and dumb decisions made by this worthless President.
ok first off the Government is not a business if it is anything it is more of a nonprofit organization. you can't treat it like a business.
second the president doesn't control the economy, he can suggest that congress create a bill that he can then sign into law (or veto if he wants) but that is it
thirdly: experience is not every thing when it comes to being president, look back to most of our great presidents of the past they have had relatively little experience as a politician.
lastly: depends on who you talk too everyone has their own opinions but what has Romney done as governor that was good for his state
Obama is busy executing his plan - while Romney is busy planning the plannification of his plan.
RUK - getting bin Laden - dumb.....NOT
getting rid of a lot of al Queda leaders with drone attacks dumb....NOT
Starting 2 wars and not putting them on the books...dumb..YES and you can thank the unmentionable DUMB President
losing 250K jobs a month....dumb...YES Thank you unmentionable dumb President
You can't fix overnight what took 8 years to do...
I didn't know Obama could promise that Congress wouldn't stonewall him.
Obama had 2 years of a democratic congress.....WTF happened? He's an empty suit pal.....
It's been nearly 4 years...slightly longer than overnight.
rukidding47
That is only an opinion on your part, and not a fact. You really need to think it through. This logic argument about the kid’s future has been going on for 100 years. Remember, the present moment is now and the kids need to benefit now. They can fend for themselves when they grow up. For now you as a parent can fend for them.
However, does voting for Romney put your kid’s best interest at heart.
wb52 - as anyone with a brain knows, President Obama had precisely 7 months of a filibuster proof Congress - no more. During that time he mistakenly tried to actually work with Republicans to get things done. Clearly that was his mistake.
Obama has kept 180 campaign promises to date, the GDP has grown each and every quarter since he was President. Since he came into office, jobless claims have fallen, and so has unemployment. We are ending two wars, were successful in Libya, and got Bin Laden.
I would say that being a community organizer is a pretty good aspect of being a successful President.
And that plan is??????
Hey Annoyed Person - I think we all know the government isn't business, probably the furthest thing from it. What most people who mention that mean is ONE thing that is prevalent in ANY business or Non-Profit - DON'T SPEND MORE THAN YOU TAKE IN!! Pretty simple huh. I know you libs think that money just comes from some magical fairy, but could we at least run the government on a budget?
Juiced- wrong!
If every business did what you said, they wouldn't be taking out loans to grow their businesses, or leveraging stuff to buy more stuff than what they already own...........sometimes you have to spend more (for a while) to improve your infrastructure, buildings, factories, transportation possibilities, etc., or to hire and train more skilled workers. "Small business loans" ring a bell?
Who can prime the pump with spending to create demand and jobs and increased tax revenues, if not our federal government, on infrastructure, education, and research and development? Think the Koch brothers will build us another Hoover Dam, Golden Gate Bridge, or interstate highway system?
How exactly would cutting spending and taxes help the economy??? Cutting spending would require laying off federal employees, many of which would have to reduce their consumption and thus lower consumer demand, creating fewer jobs via a negative multiplier effect and slowing down growth. Cutting taxes doesn't work either. The Bush taxes were the largest tax cuts in the history of the United States, and yet they didn't even work during the small recession of 2001. How exactly would they work now??? Giving people, especially the wealthy, a lump sum of money at the end of the year doesn't exactly encourage them to spend it all. If you really want to increase demand, spend money to create jobs or focus tax cuts on the payroll tax, which gives people an extra boost every payday, which they will barely notice and spend a little more. The right-wing really needs to take a class in economics.
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Let's quickly (and correctly) conduct an environmental study of the proposed new routes for Keystone before approving it.
directing that pipeline through the Nebraska sandhills would have devastating effects on the availability of water in the entire central United states, and the fact of the matter is it is only 20-30 years before oil goes the way of the Dodo at current consumption rates. This is a project that is absolutely unnecessary and only serves to further the purpose of big oil, who are already doing just fine.
If you want to actually make a difference in energy, move away from oil and into biofuels. the sooner we get started, the better. If we wait too long, others will develop this technology and be able to export it instead of us (colombia and other S. American countries are already using biodiesel instead of oil, and exporting their oil for record profits).
Tz you're so full of crap... there are literally hundreds of pipelines zigzagging all over the country for liquid petrolium and natural gas. This one would be no different...
Yawn.... Corporate Raider Willard M. Romney, the man who destroyed Jobs, will, on the first day of his Dictatorship, End needed Free healthcare for the needy so his billionare and trillionare friends will be able to rob the citizens blind by forcing them to purchase expensive do-nothing Health Insurance. Then, Ole Willard Romney the Corporate Raider will cut taxes for the billionares and trillionares, increase taxes on the senior citizens, poor and middle class, give corporate raiders everywhere massive tax breaks. Then Corporate Raider Willard M. Romney, (Probably dictating this from one of his 20 mansions he bought from taking money from citizens retirement funds and from the jobs he hijacked and sold off just to make a buck) will say we do not have enough money for Social Security and will shut it down cold turkey. Then overnight millions of Seniors and Disabled will starve. (In Iowa, Willard Romney said "I am not the Benefits President, if you want someone who will defend your benefits, I am not your man")
Finally, Willard M. Romney has proven over and over that he does not care for the enviroment, (He left junked, burnt out buildings in his wake (The empty buildings left over after liquidating good jobs for the citizens of this nation)) decides we need to pollute our heartland and will resume the disasterous Oil Pipe Line.
On top of this he will make sure the Church will rule every aspect of our lives.
I fear the day when Corporate Raider Willard M. Romney becomes Dictator. At least President Obama has said he will defend those whom Corporate Raider Willard M. Romney will hurt if he should be allowed to win in 2012
And thats my opinion.
Fed up -
That is why a bipartisan effort caused the blockage of this proposal through my state. They are currently looking into a route that wouldn't have such a devastating impact on a fragile ecosystem that is more important than the vast majority of people know.
This one goes from the arctic circle across the whole continent, a bit different than the majority of the pipelines that are currently in existence.
But continue using your false analogies and believe what you're told to.
Tzaralan,
Please explaine how running a pipeline would have a "devastating"effect on water for the entire central US after all we have a few ponds in the area called the Great Lakes you HAVE heard of them and yes it might take another (oh noooo)pipe line or two. There will always be a need for petrochemicals after all how do you lubricate the moving parts of your electric car? Now you want to move to biofuels WHAT and raise the cost of food even more than it is? (might be a good idea, starve a couple of billion people and the environment will rebound to what is was 20-30 years ago) good idea (SARCASM WRIT LARGE).
Ya think ya might want to rethink your position just a bit?
its called a "oil leak" all pipelines suffer from it to some degree and the original plan layout had the pipeline going over the biggest water aquifer in the state and oil leaks from the pipeline would contaminate the aquifer and a lot of people would lose their main source of water THAT is just one devastating affect it would have had
and for your idea of pumping water from the great lakes a few small problems Cost, affect it would have on wild life in that area, and the lakes are above ground and they have tons of diseases, and other things that must be purified before being consumable, AND GUESS WHAT that costs MONEY. also besides the fact that have pipelines if water going across a ton of states is impractical, also very cumbersome, so that probably wouldn't happen
With your obvious expertise, please tell me how an oil leak would contaminate the entire aquifer.
Take it from a Florida panhandle resident, we are now only starting to see the ill effects of the oil spill here, and will see them for decades to come.. That was in the gulf with limitless water around to disperse the oil, and its still causing issues. If it gets into those aquifers, the entire area is going to have issues. Just look at the spills on other continents.. the law suits because of spills and its effects on the surrounding people. This is not what you want in your backyard, its not worth it for the few jobs it will create and the fact it still goes into the same supply and shared all over the world. It's not worth it just to make Canada a few bucks.
Turnabout is fair play, if Romney is elected the Democrats need to fully obstruct his agenda.
Supreme court picks, federal court judges, cabinet appointments, each and every bill, etc.
75% of the earth is covered with water... 1% of it is drinkable.
Oil and Gas pipelines only serve one thing (other than temporary construction jobs), the oil and gas industry's bottom line. It's cheaper to pipe it than pay conventional shipping/freight costs. Ultimately meaning less jobs.
One day soon, water will be more precious than oil. We have one of the world's largest supplies of fresh water, and need to preserve it for our kids and grandkids. Please keep the pipeline away from the aquifers in the Midwest.....
Eric, let them try... can we make it so that the right not only controlls the house without regards of the democrats wishes and that they also are only 1 vote shy of a majority in the senate?
Supreme court picks? LOL, how did obama sneek in two new justices?
Jenny, yes water will soon be very valuable and your point is well taken. However, you have failed to show us on how the Alaskan pipeline is despoiling the alaskan wilderness or anyother pipeline. Possible yes, especially within the context of terrorist acts, natural disaster or poor maintenance. I would think that our engineers and pipefitters would have the requisite skills to minimize the risks of spillage.
RTyp0
I guess it is a good thing that Berkshire Hathaway purchased the Burlington Northern Railway before somebody else purchased it. That way we can ship all that crude by rail and Burlington Northern will be keeping a lot of US dollars in the US by collecting a fortune in shipping charges. And Burlington Northern owns all the routes from Oklahoma to gulf refinieries in Texas
Geez, where I have I heard the name Berkshire Hathaway before? O wait! That is where Warren Buffet is making so much that he pays less in taxes than his secretary. Isn't that great how that works out. Buffet pays lip service to Obama's tax plans and it looks like one of his projects could end up making a ton of money. Ain't Karma great?
The tax code has redistributed income and wealth to the top for 20 years. The economy has dried up along with the middle class. The wealthy and businesses have done OK because of large government tax loopholes. We need to rebuild the middle class first, get spending under control, and give more tax breaks to the well-to-do after the economy has healed. A 20% (not quite) across the board tax cut gives the middle class $1,400 and gives high earners like Mr. Romney a $1,000,000 cut largely because the regressive payroll taxes stay in place and are not included in the cut - and nobody knows that better than Mr. Romney.
The US is the only developed country without a VAT and that is why our business tax rates are so high. It is political arrogance and economic suicide not to add a small VAT to the tax blend and reduce the 35% corporate tax rate. The only rational reason for eschewing a net wealth tax is the sacred cow of avoiding “double taxation”. This common knee jerk reaction fails to appreciate the potential benefits of very low rates and delayed taxes (i.e. much better to tax 8% of income now and 2% of retention for each of the next 10 years than to tax 28% now).
Consider the 2-4-8 Tax Blend which can be described in one sentence. Tax individual and corporate income at a flat 8% rate (with no deductions, credits or loopholes), tax individual net wealth at 2% (excluding $15,000 cash and retirement funds) and impose a 4% Value Added Sales Tax (VAT) on business. The 2-4-8 Tax Blend has the lowest rates and will produce about $500 billion more than current federal revenue with no need for payroll, estate, and capital gains taxes or deferral of foreign income.
Eugene Patrick Devany, JD, MPA
www.TaxNetWealth.com
OK Eugene Patrick Dummy... if the redistrution has been UP... how come the top 5% pay 90% of the Federal taxes, and the bottom 47% pay none at all??? The redistribution has definitely been DOWN. It's time for hte deadbeats to pay their FAIR SHARE.
Gene ole buddy hate to bust your bubble but we have a hidden VAT and we are too stupid to understand it.
Take your typical GM car, years ago GM was one large company, due to monopolistic regulations it was broken up, believe it was in the 70's when car prices went through the roof. The reason every component of the car was taxed going out the now independent plant (body by fisher) then added to the frame, etc. and then at the end the accumulated tax was levied on the consumer.
Back in the late 80's I happened to be on a flight and sitting beside me was the then CEO of Fisher. At the time the Caddy De Vile I had cost me $49k I asked him what it actually cost to manufacture less taxes but including union labor contracts. The cost to manufacture was $6000 in round figures. The balance was taxes fees and service charges. There are two lessons here one-the "blame it on the unions" BS doesn't wash and the government (s) were making $43,000 on my purchase. Don't call me full of it I know it is unbelievable but that is the way it is. On another trip I was heading for Taiwan on yet another business trip, sitting beside me was an executive from the Stetson Hat company which was sold to another company some years ago located in Stl Louis (Texas Stetsons mind you) this exec was heading for the same manufacturer in Taiwan I was - his goal was to establish manufacturing of Stetson Hats in Taiwan. Since then they have moved on to the PRC.
Think smart when you vote in November.
Why not just enact the "Fair Tax", it would do what the tax system fails to do, collect taxes. Those that didn't pay taxes would. No matter what they buy it would be taxed at whatever tax bracket it would be, those that don't make that much would get a break. If a drug dealer or cartel wants to buy anything well they have to get taxed just like everyone else, there is no hiding around it.
No one can hide their money, no more loop holes, no more niches, you need something you have to buy it, you get taxed for it. Then here's the nice thing, You work your as* off for 2 weeks, you make over time alot of it, well now you don't sacrifice 50% on the dollar after your 40 hrs worked to the government, you get all of it in that paycheck, no more payroll taxes, no more FICA taxes, no more OSHA no more taxes on your check, no more taxes on gas no more taxes on the power, or phones, majority of frivolous taxes we see on everything we have on our bills would be gone, one tax the "Fair Tax" would take place of all worthless nickle and dime taxes. If you don't know about it then educate yourself.
http://www.fairtax.org
But in order to get it to reality we need leaders that can think outside the box able to realize we need to abolish the current tax system, and the I.R.S., and with our present idiots in charge it is going to be just business as usual, so this country, and it's economy will sit in the shi**er, until that happens. Until we can can get the way things are done, with the same old crappy, nothing gets done ways, with Senators and Representatives thinking the same old crappy manner, to think differently we will be taxed to the day we die, and the only ones benefiting will be those in Office and the rich.
If a candidate for the office of President wants to make a difference maybe he should think differently than all the others that have been in office. Especially our representatives who seem to only make laws, and think of ways to make our lives more miserable than they already are.
Change is outside the box, not inside.
Fed up
holy @!$%# you just proved his point if 5% of the population has enough money to pay 90% of taxes then obviously that 5% holds an overwhelming majority of the wealth while 47% has barely anything. of coarse your estimates are completely exaggerated anyway so it doesn't even matter. You are seriously lacking mental thinking buddy.
also why do you seam to be against rebuilding the middle class anyone with a 8th graders knowledge of history knows that it was the massive gap beween rich and poor and lack of a large middle class with plenty of money to spend on products combined with over production/speculation that caused the great depression, but then again history seams to be your weakest subject.
name one,
I think you missed my point completely. But I was trying to say is that we already have a VAT in the form of hidden sales tax. I was attempting to provide examples of that. In so far as your rant about completely exaggerated. You have the right to believe whatever you want, telling it like it is based on personal experience. If you want to wear blinders, be my guest is your right to be a jackass.
I have no idea where you came up with the idea that I am against the middle class. My total point was an attempt to show the lies we have been fed over the years based on personal findings. For you to go off on a rant simply because you fail to understand English is beyond me.
KennethC: thanks for sharing some information on the Fair Tax idea...I want to know more about it...it sounds as though it's a great idea.
Kenneth, if only the politicians on both sides of the aisle would tell us what we need to DO, rather than suggest that someone else needs to pay.
The answer is in your fact: the rich pay more because they have more. The rich don't pay 90% of the taxes; they pay roughly 30% of the income taxes in the United States. Considering that they own the majority of the wealth and make most of the money in our country, I would say that it is fair. But even then, they are still at the top while we are at the bottom. The best way to increase taxes on the middle class is to ensure that they have rising wages, and that can be ensured via regulations, increasing the minimum wage, and a law mandating that salaries by indexed for inflation (may be too far, that is debatable). Then they would pay more in taxes, and thus they would pay a higher share of all taxes paid. It is that simple.
One really fed up boomer-I think that name1 was referring to Fed Up, the guy whose comment is right below you. Not trying to disagree; just pointing out a technicality.
Unfortunately, the fair tax isn't as progressive as it assumes. The wealthy don't tend to spend a lot of their income on consumer products, making the consumption tax more regressive than an income tax. It would boost the economy, I would say, but it would worsen income inequality, which has a drag on the economy when the majority of Americans own only a fraction of the income that our nation makes. I support a consumption tax, but I don't believe in abandoning the more progressive income tax. I would instead advocate for a VAT, which affects both the producer and the consumer. And while the Fair Tax would have a higher tax base, I doubt that it would raise enough revenue to compete with our current tax system.
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They spend quite a bit, but we don't see those transactions, but no matter if they spend money to procure something they will have to pay the tax, there is no way around it. If the corporation they run has to buy material to make a product they have to pay the tax , if they buy a home they pay the tax , and if they are drug cartels, and they want to buy the crap to make their drugs or plant the marijuana in the places they do and buy the product that will one day be confiscated in a raid to water and fertilize it, they will pay the tax. Everyone pay's there is no hiding from the tax rich pay poor pay. Even the illegals can't hide, if they need something they have to pay, and since they are non-citizens they do not get any of the prebates that citizens do. so it's kind like a payback is a bit*h thing.
Can you imagine not paying tax on gas per gallon, just the tax when your done pumping. or all those worth while taxes you get on your cell phone bill, you know the ones there a mile long it seems, even in the electric bill, the majority of taxes we pay would be gone with only one to pay per bill or what you purchase. It is better I think than 275.000 pages of a tax code that is archaic as it is inside the box, and business as usual. Something this country is stuck in so bad, that a mode change needs to be done.
It's the 21st century, not the 18th. It's time to make some serious changes in this country, it might as well start with the tax system and the I.R.S.
Yes, Kenneth, our tax system is complicated, but a fair tax wouldn't necessarily be fair. If it is anything like a flat tax, it would disproportionately affect the middle class. If one where to instate a 15% flat tax, most middle class families would have their taxes increase, while the wealthiest Americans would either have their taxes cut or pay the same rate. While it would be a godsend to the economy, as uncertainty would be eliminated, there might be an increase in income inequality. And with income inequality being so high nowadays, it would probably hamper economic growth. The best way to fix the tax system is not to do away with it, but to simply fix the rough edges in the current system.
http://www.fairtax.org, Before you state what you know educate on what you don't. This is by far a better avenue to go than our present system of business. Too many rich getting away with not paying enough, and those no paying at all. And like I said, if drug dealers and cartels want to buy U.S. products here in the U.S.A. they have to pay the tax. and if a tourist comes here to spend money, they have to pay the tax, everyone gets to , there is no getting around it. I would rather have this tax system than the present. Only those that have money, or work for the I.R.S don't want the change.
Charles Krauthammer puts it best: This is why NBC is seen as being in the tank for Pres.Obama.
Krauthammer, during the panel segment on the May 17 Special Report with Bret Baier on FNC:
The difference is that Obama has owned up to and explained in detail his relationship with the preacher, even explaining it to O'Reilly.
In contrast, Romney either can't remember a significant event in high school (which means that he has a serious memory problem) or he is not telling the truth (which means that he is a liar). In any event, he needs to man up, explain and apologize.
The fact that Romney pulled this "prank" in high school doesn't bother me as much as his explanation now. If he could do something that cruel and not even remember it tells me more about his character than the act itself.
I'd be worried is the early signs of Dementia.....and we all know how demented Romney is.
One wonders how many things Obama has forgotten from his high school and college days spent high and drunk.
Couldn't you come up it anything better to support your position than quoting a "paid spokes character" from Fox (not the real) News? -- A "news" organization wholy owner and operate by right-wing operatives and their corporate masters - That is like justify racism because your uncle in the KKK said it was OK.
Today we learned that Standard and Poor has downgraded Maine's credit rating, due to spending cuts in MaineCare and other social services which will impact healthcare jobs, in addition to discouraging families from staying in Maine, thus increasing the aging of our population. Already, our employment numbers are flat, compared to the improvement seen in the other New England States. Cutting spending in order to cut taxes is not a recipe for economic growth, as the right-wing experiment in Maine is turning out to show.
you all lib are just so blinded with the D LETTER that you do not see what Obama is doing .destroying this country the same thing he accuse bush for Obama is doing it .he is just riding free on the tax payers expense and the H WITH USA. THE GALL OF THESE POLITICIAN, NOW IN HIS OWN BIO IT STATED THAT HE WAS BORN IN KENYA . I AM SURE IF A GOP HAD HID ALL THIS IT WOULD STINKS ALL OVER THE UNIVERSE BUT NO A DEM CAN GET AWAY WITH IT. GOD SAFE THIS COUNTRY
Can you spell "delusional paranoid"? Didn't think so.
Carla,
Given your 'mastery' of the English language as you attempt to spout the Rush/Sean/Fox talking points, I'd suggest you give the public schools a try next time around.
I'd give free thought a bit of a try out also.
Have an educated day
Romney: Re ObamaCare
(1) Let us have your specific solutions for insuring those with preexisting conditions.
(2) Let us have your specific solutions for providing those who cannot afford insurance with insurance coverage.
I am still waiting to hear what the specifics are in Obama care..heck we had to vote it in to see what was in the Bill and there still isn't a clear concise agreement on what it says
i have to admit that is something that bothers me about Obama care. but the thing is we can go back and revise the problems and make it more effective and easier to understand. we don't need to repeal Obama care we need to revise it and make it better
Since Mitt the Barber raises the issue of taxes on investment income, we are still waiting to see his prior year tax returns. If there is nothing to hide, why does he refuse to give us a peek? Does he have more extensive offshore bank accounts that he is afraid will embarrass him? Does he have years where he paid minimal or no taxes?
If he wants us to sign off on his version of tax reform, he must be more transparent on how they will affect him and as a proxy for his wealthy buddies.
Doug and V H NAVY;
How about reiterating and examining Romney's solution to healthcare when he was Governor...
...but now he claims he would do away with it?????
Lying hypocrit if you ask me; just seeking votes from the un-informed, un-suspecting, and the un-thinking American citizens by saying what he thinks they want to hear.
Idiot!
Doug, why don't you ask your state? That's where these issues are supposed to be, not on the fed level.
"How about reiterating and examining Romney's solution to healthcare when he was Governor..."
well i would but you see his plan when he was Governor does not effect me what so ever but Obama care has the potential to...
guess you don't know what is in Obama care as well or else you have given some long drown out post on what was in it, but you wanted it, didn't know what was in it but boy you bought their selling point of having to vote for it to see what was in it...talk about an unthinking American who will listen t anyone who will tell them anything to get a vote...
call me strange and old fashioned but I like to read the contract before I sign on the dotted line
I'll tell you what is in it V H:
...a lot of pet pork barrell "add ons" and amendments to a basic premise that is necessary to this country. Say "Thank you very much" to Congressional members who insisted on alterations (add ons) to the original bill for their support - primarily GOP Representatives and Senators who would not have voted for it without the changes/amendments.
Fact remains that it is necessary for the U.S. to have this due to the increasing number of "baby boomers" reaching medicare age, a number that will continue to increase over the next 25 years. That, ipso facto, makes what you call "Obamacare" or its equivilant necessary.
The fact also remains that Willard signed similar legislation into law for his state when he was Governor, but now want to distance himself from that fact. That, my friend, is hypocrisy no matter how you try to excuse it or explain it away.
Really? Ask the state that in which most cases the states can't pay for themselves and end up getting bailed out by the fed anyways? All roads lead to Rome! By setting a mandate this wont be a issue(its not a fix all but a good start). Sure some states could figure it out and be in the black, but most wont so WE ALL END UP PAYING FOR IT IN THE END.
In Mitt the Barber's world, folks born in Utah stay there. But others are more mobile. A patchwork of 57 state and territory heath plans could have a severe negative consequence to US mobility.
This could inhibit the economic allocation of capital and labor resources and frustrate any rational coordination with medicare.
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Day 1: Blah blah blah, same old bull@!$%#, blah blah, tax cuts for the 1%, blah blah, strip kids from parents' insurance, blah blah, ruin the environment for the sake of the 1%, blah blah blah...
I'm Mitt Romney; the trees in Michigan are just the right height and I love grits.
Rick I love that post and so so true..for those who want an educated explanation of our countries ecomic woes and the real Solution go to Nick Hanauer on youtube he explains it in simple easy to understand language.
Romney wants to use his conservative dogMa to throw your grandMa under the bus - by privatizing Medicare and social security so his fellow vulture capitalists can make more windfall of profits but regular folks can't even feed themselves.
Don't think it's alarmist - just look at this current recession and the unrelenting unemployment rate since 2008.
American people can avoid this scenario by fulfill your democratic rights of voting!
Obama/Biden 2012
Clinton/Clinton 2016
Unfortunately that is impossible. A 2-term POTUS cannot be nominated to VP.
There are so many Clintons out there, and Bill can be the best supporting actor? For example Bill can take charge of the West Wing - making sure everyone (esp. good looking female employees) has a job to do under his supervision? There is also Chelsea?
oh yes they can. but he could never assume the presidency if something should happen. and he dosen't want it anyway. he will be in the cabinet.
Actually, I think Bill Clinton could serve for two more years as President. However, to be sure I would go back and research.
Nah, you're thinking of if the POTUS is assassinated in the 3rd or 4th year of a term, then the VP can serve those years plus two more full terms.
Good to know. I couldn't remember.
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Romney probably wrote about 5% of the ad campaign himself.
What it tells me is that Romney is on the wrong side of the issues for me.
Hope and Change, oh wait, that's Odumba's line.
why is it right wingers always have to call people names? what is wrong with you people? can't you have an intelligent conversation without calling names? it just shows how ingnorant you can be. c'mon be smart. argue the issues with out all the bottom feeder talk.
dji
Agreed.
Vball, dont be a turd.
You must be new to the Vine if you think this isn't pervasive on both sides......
I call leftwingers names because they usually piss me off when they call me names.
What they DON'T want the middle class to realize..........because once they do....they will open a can of 'whoop-butt' THANK YOU NICK HANAUER (co-founder of Amazon.com) YEAH!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKx_hNRWjx4
Thank you, maga. Just watched it. Why is what he says so difficult for some people to comprehend?
H. L. Mencken once proposed that anyone guilty of golf should be barred from public life. Instead of golf being the bar, it might be better if anyone whose parent either sought or achieved the Presidency would be banned from similar pursuits. John Quincy Adams may have been adequate, but deep and abiding questions remain about 43 and the one who would be 45.
Romney has a plan? So did Nixon.
Only people who support Romney think that trees should be a certain height and hair should be a certain length.
Republicans still haven't linked deficits to endless tax cuts yet I see. It seems so obvious to the casual observer too.
romney stands for greed and eliminating the middle class. bush started it and he and the rest of the ultra conservatives want to finish the job. no one wants our taxes slashed, we want wasteful spending slashed. we want patriots in office, not this sick group behind romney. they can call themselves good christians all thery want, they are pure evil
All Amercans should make their fortunes the same old-fashioned way just like Mitt did- Inherit it and use your family name and connections get ahead, get sweet-heart tax deals, and beating down anyone anyone who has less power or money then you do who might get in your way..
Fallstaff: That's what I said earlier.....how does Romney expect to pay the deficits when he has no money coming in because he cut so many taxes? Additionally, if he keeps cutting back on jobs...this means more people on unemployment or welfare, or whatever they need to survive, which will end up costing the Federal and State governments a fortune! His plans are full of big holes, and I find it difficult that people on this vine don't understand that deficits are paid by cash coming in from taxes....you cut taxes, what do you have to pay the bills with???? It's not that difficult to understand, but apparently some of these people can't figure it out!!
<b>Romney would destroy the economy. We would all be working for slave wages under the new fascist regime.
Also, keep your hair short, your trees the right height, and never put your staff in another man's bomb shelter.
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The people that criticize Romney because he is wealthy are tipping their hands. They are criticizing him for what they long to be. Rich. Classic class warfare. Don't just desire it - work for it. Don't depend on it - earn it. He did.
How did he earn it? Was it really that hard a labor for his mother? You forget Romney was born rich, richer than most of us will ever dream of being.
You've missed a very important point - the middle class isn't 'jealous' we just want the same breaks the wealthy have gotten..instead of always being the scapegoat - We are the job creators!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKx_hNRWjx4
for me its how out of touch he is with how the middle class lives. IE... ask your parents for money to go to college.....I asked my parents, they said they didn't have any money, I joined the navy
Don't depend on it - earn it. He did.
Actually, Romney acquired his enormous wealth the same way most of the 1% do - through social connections inherited from his family and developed from attending Harvard. Romney was appointed by Bain to run their investment group. Romney made money using Bain's millions. Now, Romney's sons are following in their Dad's footsteps, asking their father's political donors to invest with them. Don't make it sound like Romney came to this country from nothing and build his fortune on hard work and luck.
I didn't use the word "jealous". I said they are critical of him because he has what they want. I would characterize that more as envious. As you say, "we want the same breaks the wealthy have gotten." You covet, you desire, you want. My advice would be to go out and earn it. Put together a plan that leads to the greater financial reward you seek. Don't look for "breaks", make your own. Be industrious. Contribute. Come up with a good idea that you can sell for profit. It's what has made this country great. The Romney family didn't invent the idea of capitalism - they just put the model to good use.
pushslice- your ignorance is showing. More Democrats are wealthy than Republicans. What Democrats and Independents want is a level playing field for everyone. They want people to have the opportunity to achieve success. And, they believe in helping those less fortunate. Pretty simple really.
No one is jealous of anything Romney has. He is missing so many qualities that anyone who is jealous of him must be a very sad, shallow person.
SeekingSanity - ignorance of what? I never mentioned the word Democrats or Republican. I was speeking only of those in our society who achieve financial wealth by capitalistic means. I have no argument with anyone who would suggest each political party has achieved wealth through those means. My only point is that the anger and frustration people feel about him is rooted principally in their desire to have what he has. He's got it. They don't. And it all seem so unfair. And I understand that human instinct to resent those who have this kind of wealth. It's a normal response. Hence the Occupy movement last year. The goal would be for those who are envious to channel that energy into a positive endeavor and make personal wealth a reality. That challenge lies before all of us.
We the people should be critical and ask as many question as possible when someone like Romney would like to be President of the United States...Romney history is questionable...he should be placed under a microscope...this Man has proven he has no soul...
when his country needed him during the Vietnam war...Romney could have served, but instead the Mormon Church ask for a waiver for their youngmen but everyone else had too serve...Romney spent his time in France as a so called Misssionary, he had just bullied a youngman, Romney is NOT THE ONE...the country he pretends to care so much about NOW IS THE SAME COUNTRY HE REFUSED TO SERVE DURING TIME OF WAR.....
What about ALL of the People in this country that has lost their jobs because of Romney's business practices, what about the lying I am speaking of the health care plan that he created that he's calling Obama-care it should be called Romney care, this is his baby and he's denying it....Romney interest in this country should be questioned...
The initial Romney bankroll was inherited, not earned.
Obama's rich grandma put him through private school.
What's your point?
God, its so funny that people buy into 'Everyone can be rich' fantasy. You might be rich, but lets face it, only 1% of us are or ever will be. And that number has been shrinking for 30 + years. Thats why the GOP can say...gee...the reason you arent successful is you couldnt beat the odds, essentially. Thats why they dont think there should be safety nets, because they falsely buy the lie that evryone can be rich....lol...too many Zig Ziegler and Tonny Robbins goons out there spreading this garbage. God, teabaggers are such knuckle-dragging sheep.
Romney's plan is unverfiiable garbage. ROMNEY, like his plan, HAS NO CORE
Wow, what an elitist statement if I ever heard one. What a Corporate shilling pig. Sorry, I would rather create Jobs than wealth. You actually think we want to be like Romney (chuckle)? Your party and your candidate is OUT OF TOUCH!
Bobber - Romney gave his inheritance to Brigham Young University
Exactly! Economic Darwinsism for the GOP. Succeed or die on the street. If you arent wealthy, then you dont deserve to eat...or live....or be healthy.....or live. Take away the safety net. The Ryan PAth to Austerity
Lane, quit making things up.
You don't like Romney. Fine. Now go away.
Obama had student loans that he was still paying of when he got elected. Romeny didnt have to do anything , it was all handed to him on a silver polatter....so...whats YOUR point?
Mitt: "Corporations ae people" .. but real (working and poor) people are not really people ..because if they were they would be members of my country club!
Blow me, Axel
Oh my God, Obama's grandma put him through a private school!!! Big deal. I know middle to upper middle class parents who did the same thing. And if Obama had Mittens' money growing up, why did he have to take out stundent loans for college? Does Mittens even know about student loans?
If Romney paid a fair share it could mean up to 32 million for 5400 college students to get Pell grants or 2200 students in work study or 3600 children enrolled in head start to get off to a good start in life.
The Occupy Movement did not protest at Wall Street because they were envious of their wealth. They did that because they were furious at the fact that millions of Americans are unemployed yet those that caused the recession are unpunished and thriving. I personally believe that the rich should be paying a 45% top rate. For decades they have got off scot-free with tax breaks and handouts while the middle class has been squeezed and the poor has been ignored. Now it's time to end the income inequality in America and return our democracy to it's egalitarian principles.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
World's Highest Corporate Tax Rate Hurts
U.S. Economically
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/2012/04/02/worlds-highest-corporate-tax-rate-hurts-us-economically
So does having the highest level of income inequality in the industrialized world....
Republicans want to help the rich to be richer and make the poor poorer - has this been obvious to everyone. They want to beat down the poor and then blame their condition on the poor themselves. They laugh at the poor as welfare recipients, but Wall Street has got even more 'corporate welfare,' for example in all those bailouts.
We always have enough money to bail outthe rich (bankers), but never enough to help the poor.
Just look at this recession that is Made In America.
What a load. That's nothing but pure partisan rhetoric. Do you really believe that if you say it enough times that people will honestly believe it?
You for got the bailouts for the unions! Oh wait that was OBAMA.Wasted Stimulus oh wait that was Obama How about GM bailout oh yea that was also Obama.Solyndra bailout oh yea Obama. Sound like he did a good amount of helping the rich get richer!Exactly how did any of these help the poor?
romney on taxes: bush couldn't read. romney can't count. he’s having trouble getting that tax return done. do we really want a president that can't count?
He wants to build an oil pipeline (after all of the offshore spills we've seen. I guess we don't need animals for our children to thrive). He wants to lower the corporate tax rate and keep investment tax the same (Because these poor corporations need a break! And most of Romney's wealth comes from investment gains.) Sounds like his plan is built to benefit him and his Republican buddies directly.
If you choose to vote for Romney because you blame Obama, you're part of the problem.
If you haven't noticed...cars run on gas...All the oil spills have been cleaned up and I'm not hearing about ill effects...(If you want to do something productive, why not clean up the tsunami trash from the quake or the spiral of garbage in the Pacific...)Lowering the corp tax rate will create jobs!...You have your head in the sand!
BrokeinColorado: That's the biggest fallacy in the world and the GOP are hoping that you'll all believe that. Corporate tax rates are at the lowest they've ever been, and I don't see any jobs being created...do you? I just wish people would get their heads out of the sand and quit believing all the garbage that's being spread around by the GOP. As I said before, and I'll say it again, does Romney actually BELIEVE that cutting taxes is going to help? How can we pay off the deficit if we aren't getting tax money??? If you have no money coming in, how do you pay your bills? I'm sure quite a few people out there can explain that problem because they're LIVING IT as we speak!! Tell the GOP how that's working for you?
Now that's the change I'm talking about!!!!! Get fired up and put a halt to all of those progressive free-bee handouts to all these lazy, good for nothing mo-fo's and useless takers...
Romneys corporate welfare, subsidies, grants, tax breasts, loop holes, and funneling funds over seas has got to stop.
U.S. Corporate Tax Rate To Be Highest In The Developed
World
Posted: 03/30/2012 3:31 pm Updated: 03/31/2012 11:47 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/us-corporate-tax-rate_n_1392310.html
* Japan's
corporate tax rate dropping to 38.01 pct on Sunday
* Combined U.S. 39.2 pct rate will be developed world's highest
By Patrick Temple-West and Kim Dixon
WASHINGTON, March 30 (Reuters) - The United States will hold the dubious
distinction starting on Sunday of having the developed world's highest
corporate tax rate after Japan's drops to 38.01 percent, setting the stage for
much political posturing but probably little tax reform.
Japan and the United States have been tied for the top combined, statutory
corporate rate, with levies of 39.5 percent and 39.2 percent, respectively.
These rates include central government, regional and local taxes.
Japan's reduction , prompted by years of pressure from Japanese politicians
hoping to spur economic growth, will give that country the world's
second-highest rate.
This has triggered complaints from U.S. politicians and business groups.
"This isn't an April Fool's Day joke," said Senator Orrin Hatch, the
leading Republican on the Senate Finance Committee.
"Every industrialized country around the globe understands that tax rates
can determine whether or not businesses succeed or fail," Hatch said in a
statement.
Across most of the political spectrum there is broad agreement that the U.S.
corporate tax rate is too high, though few corporations actually pay that rate
because the loophole-riddled tax code gives them lower "effective"
rates.
Republicans and Democrats agree that the tax code needs work. It has not been
thoroughly overhauled in 25 years.
In February, President Barack Obama proposed a corporate tax reform blueprint
that included a 28 percent top rate.
Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney has said he wants to cut the
corporate rate to 25 percent.
COMPETITIVE EDGE
The average 2012 corporate tax rate for the 34 developed countries is 25.4
percent, according to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and
Development.
"As countries such as Canada and the United Kingdom have moved to reform
their tax systems and lower rates to encourage economic growth, America's
inaction puts American worldwide companies at a competitive disadvantage and
threatens our economic recovery," said Bruce Josten, an official at the
U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
Some U.S. companies pay close to the 35 percent top corporate tax rate; some
pay nowhere near that, thanks to tax breaks that let them lower their
"effective" tax rates.
Of the 30 companies in the Dow Jones industrial average, 19 told shareholders
their effective rate for their 2011 fiscal years, mostly ending Dec. 31, was
below Obama's proposed new tax rate, according to a Reuters analysis of
securities filings.
Of these companies, three - telecom company AT&T, Bank of America, and
insurance company Travelers - posted a tax gain.
For the index's other 27 companies, effective rates reported ranged from 2.7
percent for telecom giant Verizon Communications to 43.3 percent for energy
group Chevron Corp.
These figures are taxes for shareholder accounting but not necessarily what was
paid last year because Congress lets companies defer parts of their income tax
for future years.
Please note, honest jo, that Japan's individual income taxes are among the highest in the world.
And if you don't like Day one, don't worry because he will do the exact opposite on Day 2 and keep changing every day (sometimes within hours) until the polls work out.
Romney: If you need money to start a business, just borrow from your Parents.
Mr Etch-a-sketch has no clue on real world people.
He's "Evolved".
It worked for Barry.....
Did I misread this> ; Romney wants to cut income rates 20% Well by that math: if I i am playing 35% - 20% = II would than play 15% --Ok --But if i was now paying 13.9% (like Mitt) I would then being pay negative 6.1% -- He would make money on that one..interest... well.. as he said hinseld... don't care abour poor people" -- Also why are he and the GOP attacking educaton, PBS and the arts? is being able to read and write and play and appreciate music now a communist plot?
The lies are starting and he isn't even in office yet. I can't wait to return to what put us here in the first place! Just when things are starting to turn around...
He wants to cut the tax rates by 20% so if you pay 20% he wants to cut that rate by 20% which means you would pay 20% less in THAT bracket!
Unbelievable....Mitt Romney...gave his "inheritance" away to charity...
yea, the bishop romney charity for freaks who claim they are creator gods