Bush: Embrace change over 'so-called stability' in Arab Spring

A stone's throw away from the White House, former President George W. Bush said today the world is in an "extraordinary" time for freedom and that the changes of the Arab Spring should be embraced despite the uncertain future that comes with them.

Bush said those who say the dangers of democratic change are too great and that America should be in favor of stability over change are unrealistic.

"In the long run, this foreign-policy approach is not realistic," Bush argued, "It is not realistic to presume that so-called stability enhances our national security. Nor is it within the power of America to indefinitely preserve the old order, which is inherently unstable."

Bush advocated a clear stand. "American's message should ring clear and strong," Bush said. "We stand for freedom -- and for the institutions and habit that make freedom work for everyone."

Bush's stance puts him at odds with some hard-liners in his party, who have considered Israel's interests in the region first. They have been critical of Hosni Mubarak's ouster and the political process that has followed, including the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood.

The U.S., led by Obama, has walked a fine line on intervention during the Arab spring. America was reticent at first to get involved in Egypt, because of the "stability," from an American perspective, that Mubarak represented. But eventually Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton embraced the changes.

The U.S. intervened in Libya, but only after building a multilateral approach and letting NATO take the lead. Some Republican presidential candidates knocked Obama for not intervening, and then others criticized him for getting involved at all. Newt Gingrich did both. The U.S. has not intervened in Syria, something Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) has been critical of Obama for not doing more on Syria.

Romney on a radio program in October called the Arab Spring "out of control." “We’re facing an Arab Spring which is out of control in some respects," he said, "because the president was not as strong as he needed to be in encouraging our friends to move toward representative forms of government."

He says on his website that what's happening in the Arab Spring is "doubled edged." And: "To protect our enduring national interests and to promote our ideals, a Romney administration will pursue a strategy of supporting groups and governments across the Middle East to advance the values of representative government, economic opportunity, and human rights, and opposing any extension of Iranian or jihadist influence. The Romney administration will strive to ensure that the Arab Spring is not followed by an Arab Winter."

Bush acknowledged that once these movements succeed in overthrowing a regime the hard work is not behind them. "After the euphoria, nations must deal with questions of tremendous complexity," he said, adding, "Problems once kept submerged by force must now be resolved by politics and consensus."

Bush and the former first lady were in town for the Washington launch of The Bush Center's Freedom Collection, which is an initiative to document the stories of dissidents. They were joined by Pastor Bob Fu the founder of ChinaAid and an advocate for Chinese dissident Chen Guangcheng and the newly elected member of parliament Daw Aung San Suu Kyi appeared from Myanmar via Skype. Pastor Fu said he hopes to see Mr. Chen and his family in the U.S. soon.

President Bush quipped at the top of his remarks that he found his freedom by leaving Washington.

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Where did "W" crawl out from?

How did he manage to escape his handlers?

Just what we need, "W's" thoughts on foreign policy! I mean he was super effective when he was in office... right?

Personally, I would love to see him out in public more - nothing like a glimpse of Bush to remind us of the suffering we have endured & lives lost, compliments of him & his cronies!

  • 71 votes
#1 - Tue May 15, 2012 3:46 PM EDT

It sure sounds like he is disagreeing with Romney, who is clueless in foriegn affairs. Heck, even "W" is better informed that Romney according to this article. If Romney had lived during the American Revolution, he would have sided with George III because our new nation was "out of control."

  • 49 votes
#1.1 - Tue May 15, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

So how are things going in Libya?

Seems we spent a ton of cash and went through a few of them million dollar Tomahawk missiles.

And?

And how 'bout Egypt? Sad the we root for the Muslim Brotherhood now because the Salfist alternate is even worse.

Bye the way, in how many Arabic/Muslim countries are women allowed to vote? Allowed outside without being 'covered.'

Yeah, this stuff is important, cause as we have seen, bringing these folk into modern times from the 7th century is easy.

  • 17 votes
#1.2 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

Feisty, as much as I agree with you like 99% of the time, despite GW's failed presidency, I think GW actually showed some courage and wisdom bucking the trend of the GOP right now.

I just wish he had been smart like this when he was actually President.

On top a huge heap of other things of course.

Bye the way, in how many Arabic/Muslim countries are women allowed to vote? Allowed outside without being 'covered.'

Here's a radical notion: Why don't we let them determine how they are going to rule themselves after they get rid of their dictators?

  • 44 votes
#1.3 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

Gosh, sounds like Spanky doesn't agree with George W. Bush.

(Does anyone else ever wonder about all that "we must get them over there before they get us here" rhetoric? You know, those Republican arguments we heard for eight years, that Democrats were trying to "cut and run" from Iraq, that "the surge worked!" that "freedom isn't free" that voting for Republicans would "keep us safe?")

  • 27 votes
#1.4 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

Could this be a feeler by Pres. Bush asking whether anyone needs an endorsement or a stump speech? I'm thinking the answer is still no, just like in 2010. Wait by the phone, though.

  • 12 votes
#1.5 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

Yeah this foreign stuff is tricky. Like for instance the run on the banks in Greece has started. Bad news as it looks like Greece will give up on the EU, followed by Portugal, Spain, and Ireland. You'd think this would come up on Obama's interview on The View, but yet those hard hitting journalists could only find the time to ask "Do you think you will win?"

This is what happens when a government goes broke.

  • 8 votes
#1.6 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

I would think Liberals would cheer GWB, as he is the second most liberal President behind only Obama.

"W" crawled out from under the same hand that controls Obama.

Personally, I wish people would understand that.

  • 15 votes
#1.7 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

Amazing that George W. would comment and my guess is the GOP is reeling!

JAS - you just can't stay on topic when it doesn't play into your hatred can you? You must be a very difficult person to be around since all you can do is spout your negativity - even in the face of facts proving you're wrong. I actually feel sorry for you. My guess is you're a very lonely person because of your intense hatred and what I have to assume is hidden disgust for yourself!

  • 20 votes
#1.8 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

Interesting dialogue, but I think all of it misses the point. We need a new, tougher foreign policy coming from whomever our president will be:

If we (the U.S.) discover that terrorists are planning/organizing against our country inside the borders of your country, you have one week from the time we warn you, to show that you are seriously dealing with the problem yourselves.

If you do not, we will, and we will not be gentle or PC.

We will completely destroy them. We suggest you get out of the way and don't let them hide out amongst your citizens.

We will not stay and rebuild your country.

We will leave immediately when the job is done, and if you are foolish enough to let them back in, we will show no mercy when we come back in.

Your country is your responsibility, not ours, unless you threaten us. Please inform your citizens.

WE WILL NOT APPOLOGIZE!!

Otherwise; we are done propping up, tearing down and cleaning up. You're on your own, choose wisely.

  • 8 votes
#1.9 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:36 PM EDT
Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Feisty, as much as I agree with you like 99% of the time, despite GW's failed presidency,

You may be right - I think we can all agree that while "W" was occupying the White House he was a disaster on foreign policy!

I just wish he had been smart like this when he was actually President.

Not a chance with the Dick pulling the strings...

  • 28 votes
#1.10 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

Interesting; all the whining about Bush. Obama campaigned against his foreign policy, then proceede to pretty much followed suit.

  • 20 votes
#1.11 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:44 PM EDT
Comment author avatarOuch! My BallsExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Interesting how most of you libbies ignore what Iraq contributed to the so called "Arab Spring"? I would argue that had not Iraq occurred, then that "Arab Spring" would not exist today.

Try and give credit where it is due....

Oh, wait a minute...never mind that is impossible with liberal idiots.

  • 21 votes
#1.12 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

Who is George W. Bush?

  • 12 votes
#1.13 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

Tod, you stopped thinking on 9/11, or maybe you haven't kept up with the news. We cannot go to war without reason or because our emotions have gotten the better of us, which caused a major war in Iraq that killed our people, their people, and our economy. Romney obviously feels war is the answer, just because President Obama is working for peace. Romney just has to be the opposite on everything. I hope he keeps rattling his unblooded saber. We are sick of war, and the disaster in Iraq didn't do us one bit of good.

  • 16 votes
#1.14 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

I wish somebody was embracing his ass in jail!

  • 12 votes
#1.15 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

Bush may have been a baffon but he has shown a lot of class since he has been out of office, unlike Darth Cheney. Have another drink on me George!

  • 12 votes
#1.16 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

American Fable

I wish somebody was embracing his ass in jail!

The way Bush is "respected" by his own party is worse than being embraced by a jailhouse boyfriend.

  • 3 votes
#1.17 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

Wayne,

Calm down and read my post. You are assuming I am a war monger interested in war without reason?

'Without reason"

"If we (the U.S.) discover that terrorists are planning/organizing against our country inside the borders of your country"

With congressional approval, legally, get it? (Iraq and Afghanistan had both, but that's a different argument, is it not?)

  • 5 votes
#1.18 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

I would argue that had not Iraq occurred, then that "Arab Spring" would not exist today.

Ouch - that is quite the claim. Sounds like something is stretched a little to tight, making you see stars. Are you going to tell us next that if the Bay of Pigs had been successful, Mexico would have willing ceded to the US?

  • 7 votes
#1.19 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

I thought we were done with the "BushyDick" administration, seems now that it has a new heart and is sober they think they still speak for America. Not so fast boys - you sure as hell NEVER spoke for me.

  • 10 votes
#1.20 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:01 PM EDT

But, But, he is right on, "keep the Republican stability" and "corporate control of Government" and of "medical", "retirement", "College Education" and "Food" never mind the media, to keep you "informed", and not so fast on Democracy!---that is not in Libya, but in USA!--look out the window--But we are busy teaching other countries Democracy by killing over a million, and so far we only have Democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan on paper!--Never mind all the other country attacks upon Freedom!

  • 1 vote
#1.21 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

Bush aught to just keep his trap shut, Jez- what a loser.

  • 8 votes
#1.22 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:13 PM EDT
Comment author avatarMaxeemasExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

There is no difference between W. Bush and Hitler

The only differences between the two.. Hitler was send to kill the Jews and W. Bush was send to kill the Muslims

Both are access of Evil.. Hell.. can't wait for you Bush and your followers.. to be transfer from this life to the next...

you will pay for all the lifes of all the victims who suffered and died under your Brutal regime one way oranother!

  • 5 votes
#1.23 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:17 PM EDT

Bush said "Problems once kept submerged by force must now be resolved by politics and consensus."

If this doesn't get the GOP upset I don't know what will. Politics and consensus are needed both by foreign policy makers, and by Congress. While Bush was in office he pretty much took the "my way or you're an enemy" approach. It's good to see him realizing the real world isn't like that.

Strangely, at this point Bush is nothing but a RINO in the Republican Party. I see the previous comments calling him as liberal as Obama, which is funny considering how far to the right (but still left of center) Obama has moved since taking office. If Reagan were alive he'd be even more of a liberal, and chastising the GOP for their foreign policy stance, among other things.

  • 4 votes
#1.24 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

[Amazing that George W. would comment and my guess is the GOP is reeling!]

My guess is the GOP is cringing...this man can't string two intelligent sentences together without cue cards...and he even screwed that up...

  • 8 votes
#1.25 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

former President George W. Bush said today the world is in an "extraordinary" time for freedom

The last time that this man said that, he started the war that destabilized the WHOLE Middle East, and threw the whole WROLD into a recession. He is in lala land. Needs to have his head examined.

  • 7 votes
#1.26 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

Hey, Ouch! Thanks for the comment; now you can go back to eating Ann's c***.

  • 2 votes
#1.27 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

I find it interesting that conservatives have no problem calling out the nuts in their midst. But Liberals can't summon the courage to do the same to their own.

So, anyone gonna callout max for his nutty comments, or is it that you actually agree with him?

  • 5 votes
#1.28 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

Actually, not only is this the most articulate I remember him ever being, he has a really good point. So what happened? Is W too liberal for the GOP now?

  • 1 vote
#1.29 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:39 PM EDT
Comment author avatardudoggerExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

OK, Little Emperor, so you crawled out of yer fetid doody hole and once again saw yer shadow. Time to scurry on back to Dallas fer another year I reckon...

  • 3 votes
#1.30 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

All Hail the Nasty Redhead from Chicago. I lived in Il. For 23 years, Corruption is the norm as Nasty Redhead proves living there SUCKS.......

  • 1 vote
#1.31 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

I find it interesting that conservatives have no problem calling out the nuts in their midst

Really?

Cause see the problen with that is, I've been on First Read for over 4 years and have NEVER seen a wing nut call out another - if anything they double down on stupid!

Can you give me an example to back up your comment?

  • 9 votes
#1.32 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:58 PM EDT

Bush: "We stand for freedom -- and for the institutions and habit that make freedom work for everyone.", but he (and his family) supported the Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain, Jordan and Morocco anti-freedom monarchies and Egypt and Yemen anti-freedom dictatorships.

  • 3 votes
#1.33 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

Hey GW, how is that war crimes conviction working out for you? Terrified to leave the country much?

  • 5 votes
#1.34 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

Bush was a better person when he was merely a drunk ... then only the folks on the road had to worry about him taking their life ... how can he come out in public and philosophize after causing so many deaths with his past policies??????

  • 3 votes
#1.35 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:00 PM EDT

Hey, let's give GWB credit when he deserves it. This is reasonable! Imagine! And as said before, where was this wisdom when he was president?

Here is a guy who was unprepared for the job, not like Obama who has demonstrated significant wisdom in many (but not all) areas.

Bush the intellectual? Who woulda thunk it.

    #1.36 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

    Gulf, be polite.

    Tis true, I have read some nasty posts of hers, but mostly its just Foolish Rhetoric, and not really worthy of comment. Besides, I suspect half the posters (lemmings) on her threads are actually her, so let her have her fun. She so desperately craves the attention.

    • 3 votes
    #1.37 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

    The only thing more usless than Bush's thoughts, are feisty's thoughts, at least she was smart enough to start saying W's thoughts, instead of her usual 'Bushes thoughts'

    You spend too much time propaganda blogging to not understand that 'bushes' means multiple plants, so thats a good change since you couldnt figure it out.

    Tod, we use to get attention whores like feisty to come over on AOL messenger, it was a good time for all, chicks with low self esteem rock.

    • 2 votes
    #1.38 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

    "Some Republicans presidential knocked Obama for not intervening, and then others criticized him for getting involved at all. Newt Gingrich did both. "

    and there you have it right there. they want it both ways.. either way.. as long as its against their leader obama. liars and hypocrites.

    Romney on a radio program in October called the Arab Spring "out of control." “We’re facing an Arab Spring which is out of control in some respects," he said, "because the president was not as strong as he needed to be in encouraging our friends to move toward representative forms of government."

    ahhh both ways romney.. does anybody out there really think this guy has a clue?

    STAY THE COURSE! CAN'T CHANGE HORSES MID-STREAM!!!!!

    remember that? get used to hearing it.

    and yes, oddly this sounds by far the most coherent thing w. ever said.

    the gop loves him.

    now go spend some more taxpayer money! dont worry, while the pubs will cry about obama going golfing or taking vacation, they wont say a WORD about you, who spent more time than any president before you on vacation "clearing brush" at crawford ranch. the tea party wont mention it.

      #1.39 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:10 PM EDT

      All Hail the Nasty Redhead from Chicago. I lived in Il. For 23 years, Corruption is the norm as Nasty Redhead proves living there SUCKS.......

      Says the poster boy for PTSD...

      Seek help before it's too late Gomer!

      She so desperately craves the attention

      Toad,

      Why does it come as no surprise you aren't men enough to take the challenge! lol

      • 6 votes
      #1.40 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

      a comment that Bush is like Hitler...that should have been Obama is like Hitler...read his books and tell me that ain't true. Would have been interesting to see Obamas stance if he was prez on 9/11...thinking the outcome might have not been much different...all you libretards would be messing your panties.

      • 1 vote
      #1.41 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

      Well redd, Obama governs with propaganda and rhetoric, and 'the other guy' may also have used those tactics, so im not making the comparison, im just comparing common devices.

        #1.42 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

        It's no surprise to me that George "Curveball" Bush would be out there talking up his Oil buddies he grew up with all his life, and the ones who hit us on 9/11.

        It sure didn't take Bush long to "forget".

        • 4 votes
        #1.43 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

        Uh justredd - The reason that 9/11 succeeded was because Bush was in the White House. The hi jackers had inside help and it was people in the Bush administartion that helped, as well as our friends in Israel.

        I think Bush has begun to realize he was snookered and used to facilitate the Iraq war.hat war will cost America upwards of 3.5 trillion dollars and you call us libtards. Anyone who voted for George Bush twice has no right to denigrate anyone else. You cannot get any dumber then that.

        • 6 votes
        #1.44 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:24 PM EDT

        I would argue that had not Iraq occurred, then that "Arab Spring" would not exist today.

        That'd be a great argument if it were true.

        Too bad it's not.

        • 2 votes
        #1.45 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

        LOL ralph, your post wasnt up long enough for someone else to uprate it, dont rate your own posts, you just look like the fool you already proved yourself to be.

          #1.46 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

          I really wish the low IQ angry while male tea party would make up their minds, is Obama a socialist or like Hitler? Hitler was a fascist which is the extreme right wing, the other end of the spectrum so to speak.

          Socialism- favors consumer interest-creates a population of welfare

          fascism-favors corporate interest-creates corporate welfare.

          Neither are sustainable in the long run, you have to find a balance

          • 4 votes
          #1.47 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:28 PM EDT

          Jan, dumbass, fascism is political, socialism is economical, learn what they mean.

            #1.48 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:30 PM EDT

            you just look like the fool you already proved yourself to be.

            Ummm... loudmouth - I was the one who voted for Ralph's comment!

            Who's the fool now?

            • 5 votes
            #1.49 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

            tru dumbass, both are political and economic

              #1.50 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:33 PM EDT
              bicfjDeleted

              tru-please tell me if the republicans have all the answers, why is it that red states have the most people on welfare, the lowest education rates, the highest teen pregnancy rates, and take more federal aid?

              Oh right, because being stupid is celebrated in your circles.

              • 4 votes
              #1.52 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:38 PM EDT

              No jan, they arent, fascist are actually more socialist in theory, though they dont like the label. They believe that the market is there to support the 'government', whereas, socialism believes the earners are there to support the governments ideals. They are very similar concepts.

              Fascism is a military ruled society, political. Socialism is a collective economy, economic. Again, learn what they mean.

              Feisty, you just made him look more a fool by saying something that your propaganda spewing ass agrees with.

              Damn jan,. didnt even read your last post...so please explain the liberal failed experiment called California to me?

                #1.53 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:39 PM EDT

                You see tru, I do know what they mean and you are giving a very limited definition of both to make your point and not taking, the favoring corporate interests in fascism which by the way is true!

                Then again you are so smart, please give some real answers to the problems, I certainly haven't heard them from anyone in D.C. or any republican.

                Romneys slash taxes to the wealthy, war with Iran, and this flirtation with theocracy, make me want to vomit all over republicans. I am tired of you all telling people what to do based on THEIR religious beliefs. The constitution has lost all meaning with republicans. Obama has crossed some lines I don't like but I have no doubt that your corporate puppet Romney will squash the constitution.

                • 2 votes
                #1.54 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

                tru I pointed out that socialism isn't anymore sustainable than fascism. California is way too liberal for their own good, what happened to a balance between the two interests that we used to be able to find?

                • 2 votes
                #1.55 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

                .

                • 1 vote
                #1.56 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:46 PM EDT

                Dubya without Cheney around has found a voice of reason. He's smart enough to hope that with time his legacy will improve and he won't go down in history as the worst POTUS. But he and other pre-Teabagger Republicans are appalled at the new extremism in the GOP/TP, and know Romney is inept in foreign policy -- A Cold War, for Pete's sake -- They are worried.

                Ultimately look at the Republican Party in 2000/2004 election compared to 2008 with McCain, and now 2012 with Romney the apparent nominee, and how far to the Right their ideology has moved with each election.

                Tod-2791955 -- "No apologies" is a rightwing lie that further shows your incapability for doing any critical thinking on your own.

                trudat6445 -- Romney is a socialist who believes the tax payers are there to bail out corporate raiders and Wall Street.

                • 4 votes
                #1.57 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

                Truepatriot, being convicted of war crimes is going to probably give Bush the title the worst POTUS. The tribunal found Bush/Cheney guilty mostly to mark their presidency historically, as they can't really enforce it.

                Of course they are worried, Karl Rove may be a scumbag manipulator but he knows what it takes to win elections and the tea party wants nothing to do with him. This hard right turn isn't doing them favors.

                • 1 vote
                #1.58 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

                Perhaps it's best for Bush to continue his 'low profile' and let Obama continue to be the one 'making all the wrong moves'.

                I do think that Romney's approach of a 'gradual transition' to representative governments would have been a much wiser approach than Obama's pulling the rug from under our allies in the region. Obama's approach has opened up the opportunity for hard-line Islamists to take over the Middle East.

                • 1 vote
                #1.59 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:54 PM EDT

                There isnt enough space to explain how to fix things that the government has F'd up in a post on firstread. But there is time to say that it's the government that created this mess and more government will NOT fix it. Despite what libs want to believe, we are more socialist than we'd like to be, we give away to anyone that holds their hand out, that has to stop, especially with illegals, but also with millions of other dregs that CHOOSE not to work, most on wlefare are just lazy, they are not at all what the programs were setup for.

                Want to fix the fed gov, get it the hell out of state affairs, if the government forces all state to run by the rules that the fail states govern by, then all hope is lost. Obama wants the US to be like CA, he only hasnt done it because of the balance of power, yet libs hate the balance when it doesnt meet their agenda.

                Far right wingers may be far too conservative, but even libs that think they are centrists are far too braindead.

                And yes, the eventual path of socialists and fascist do end up in the same place, to support the state through private industry, one does it through military rule, the other through peasants.

                • 1 vote
                #1.60 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:58 PM EDT

                Just what we need, "W's" thoughts on foreign policy! I mean he was super effective when he was in office... right?

                Perhaps you are correct about W but I would prefer old Billy boy to expound on his top 10 uses for cigars and his outside the box thinking on his favorite duties of female white house interns. I am sure old pants suit could add some useful tips on how to effectively neuter a sitting president while keeping her political carpetbagging career alive.

                For my money I much prefer those thoughts than W's thoughts on foreign policy.

                  #1.61 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:58 PM EDT

                  jr, to big billy 'box' is just a euphemism.

                    #1.62 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:04 PM EDT

                    For my money I much prefer those thoughts than W's thoughts on foreign policy.

                    That's cool - I see you have NO problem with the 10's of thousands of lives lost thanks to the bumbling idiot!

                    Did you really just bring up Clinton? lmfao!

                    • 2 votes
                    #1.63 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:05 PM EDT

                    tru and a democracy that is rooted in capitalism does find that balance between the interests.

                    One though is bleeding the nation to death by not allowing private corporations to keep the economy and jobs flowing in favor of giving out handouts. There should be some welfare, there should be a safety net for for families.

                    I don't know how anyone who listened to Norquists speech at CPAC could justify a vote for Romney, he basically said that Romney will be five fingers to sign what he wants into law. That he didn't need a hero or a thinker, just someone to sign what he wants. Corporate patsy and honestly how can anyone trust someone who lies just to lie about things that have no reason to lie about?

                    • 1 vote
                    #1.64 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:05 PM EDT

                    Bush steals the 'change' slogan from O'Bama ... Bush still a thief 4 years later?

                    Once a commander-in-thief, now just a street thief

                    • 3 votes
                    #1.65 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:05 PM EDT

                    More Hitler blather,

                    I hear Hitler, and I dismiss you as an ignorant overstater no matter what side you are on.

                    Foolish Rhetoric, I really get a kick out of how you "LOL" at all the nonsense you post. From now on I'll desparately try and be men enough (though who knows what challenge you are refering to?)

                    Oh, I know; its late afternoon, and your usually wasted by now. This aught to be fun!

                    Yes true, "No apologies" is a right wing lie. Now I can think critically, thank you so much. Your wisdom is unparalleled.

                      #1.66 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:06 PM EDT

                      I hear Hitler, and I dismiss you as an ignorant overstater no matter what side you are on.

                      Just as I suspected - you throw out baseless comments & when challenged on it, you wimp out & twist yourself into a human pretzel! lol

                      Well, I guess the good news is, you've been proven to be the liar we have suspected all along!

                      There is something known as a credibilty factor which you have failed in EPICALLY!

                      SWEET!

                      My job here is done!

                      What was it "W" said?

                      Oh yeah... MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! lol

                      • 3 votes
                      #1.67 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:12 PM EDT

                      There is something known as a credibilty factor which you have failed in EPICALLY!

                      LOL, the queen of failing on credibility factor, 'if i see a topic i dont like, i spew propaganda about something unrelated' yep we're on to ya sugar, stop feeling smart, it only works on your lemmings.

                      There should be some welfare, there should be a safety net for for families.

                      Jan, a safety net should not mean you teach your family that the government will support you forever, a safety net means something to support you till you get back on your feet. That is the liberal abomination of welfare, support families forever.

                        #1.68 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:24 PM EDT

                        Oh, just this gem from FR:

                        "Cause see the problen with that is, I've been on First Read for over 4 years and have NEVER seen a wing nut call out another - if anything they double down on stupid!

                        Can you give me an example to back up your comment?"

                        I probably did it on 3 stories today alone, go ahead check my back posts. I call out right wing morons all the time. Libertards, Nobama, Obummer, racial slurs, overstated nonsense. You name it, that foolishness is not helpful from either side.

                        I know you take pride in your collapsed comments, but seriously, the reason you are collapsed is the same reason right wing nuts are collapsed; you are never civil, and your over the top Foolish Rhetoric is needlesslyoffensive to 1/2 the country. You never have anything wise or constructive to say, never! Even those lemmings (who are not actually you posting as someone else) who used to follow you have seemingly disappeared. Wake up, you're not the star you think you are.

                        I repeat Feisty: YOUR MIRROR IS BROKEN, DON'T TRUST IT!!

                        • 1 vote
                        #1.69 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:25 PM EDT

                        I probably did it on 3 stories today alone, go ahead check my back posts.

                        No thanks - time to either put up or SHUT up!

                        Oh my little Toad - you certainly have a mighty high opinion of yourself. lol

                        Only problem is - YOU are the only one who feels that way!

                        Like I said, until you prove otherwise, you have been outed as a pathological liar and my job here is done! LMAO @U...

                        I know you take pride in your collapsed comments,

                        OH you bet I do - see cause when the collapse Nazi's start playing their silly games, my vote totals go through the ceiling, sweetcheeks!

                        Wake up, you're not the star you think you are.

                        On the contrary you impotent fool - my friends say otherwise! The best part is seeing how much it bugs the @!$%# out of YOU! lmao

                        Keep sitting on the sidelines Toad and praying someone will come along & kiss you into a Prince!

                        Lot's of f@cking LUCK with that!

                        Next time you feel the desire to swerve into MY lane, will you at least attempt to bring your "A" game?

                        • 3 votes
                        #1.70 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:36 PM EDT

                        my friends say otherwise!

                        LOL, like i told you Tod, Feisty was a dime a dozen on AIM, she was what we use to call a DDT 'definite doube team', all the low self esteem attention whores are.

                        • 1 vote
                        #1.71 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:42 PM EDT

                        god bless you george w....thankfully you have found your peace from all of this.

                          #1.72 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:45 PM EDT

                          And there you have it.

                          The more she drinks, the nastier she gets, and the more she reveals her true motives. Its a sad life lived for false MSNBC poster glory.

                          You see "sweetcheeks" I really don't care what people think of me (votes, thats funny), if I did I'd try to be on top every time, now would'nt I? Have another one FR, it'll help you sleep at night.

                          • 2 votes
                          #1.73 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:50 PM EDT

                          Fire crotch, you could be the most delusional person on 1st read... no I take that back you are the most delusional person on 1st read. I see after almost every comment you make or every insult you try and make you laugh at yourself. You do know that when a person thinks they are funny and has to laugh at their own remarks it is a sign of insecurity. You really need to see someone for your condition although I am not sure there is anyone on record of having been cured of being a moronic a**hole. Well good luck with trying to find a cure.

                            #1.74 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:52 PM EDT

                            And there you have it.

                            Absolutely right Toad - you got spanked & personal attacks is the only way you can counter!

                            Obviously, I intimdate the @!$%# out of you or you would quit while you are behind, rather then make a bigger ass out of yourself!

                            You remind me of the old saying, never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and then try to beat you with experience! ;o)

                            Fire crotch, you could be the most delusional person on 1st read

                            Is this the part where I'm supposed to be insulted?

                            Would you remind me again why I care what YOU think? lol

                            • 3 votes
                            #1.75 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:54 PM EDT

                            You do know that when a person thinks they are funny and has to laugh at their own remarks it is a sign of insecurity.

                            thats what ive been saying jr, she's LSE 'low self esteem', its a great attribute in chicks for college guys.

                              #1.76 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:57 PM EDT

                              thats what ive been saying jr, she's LSE 'low self esteem', its a great attribute in chicks for college guys.

                              tru,

                              It has been a few years since my college days but based on my mental image of FR I couldn't imagine even in my most comatose drunken state while having the thickest beer goggles, I am not sure I could...

                                #1.77 - Tue May 15, 2012 8:11 PM EDT

                                Yea, jr, but my friends would, lol

                                she'd be all about my non-discriminating friends

                                  #1.78 - Tue May 15, 2012 8:18 PM EDT

                                  good stuff tru, thanks for the laugh.

                                    #1.79 - Tue May 15, 2012 8:24 PM EDT

                                    "Obviously, I intimdate the @!$%# out of you or you would quit while you are behind, rather then make a bigger ass out of yourself"

                                    Nice try FR, but not my quote.

                                    P.S. not a big fan of those insulting your looks (which obviously I have no clue) or your sexual desireability (though neither have been topics that you've sheid away from when describing others). The only thing thats revealed to me is your obvious insecurity, and your inability to have a civil discourse with anyone who does'nt have your far-left wordview.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #1.80 - Tue May 15, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

                                    Little boyz - it has been fun - but my work here is done!

                                    Have a nice evening... lol

                                    Go soak you fat asses which have been thoroughly handed to ya all!

                                    When all you have left are personal attacks - YOU have lost any credibility you might of had!

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #1.81 - Tue May 15, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

                                    I only use personal attacks with libs, otherwise its like explaining the obvious to a monkey, no matter how well i explain it, ill just get feces thrown at me.

                                      #1.82 - Tue May 15, 2012 8:41 PM EDT

                                      "otherwise its like explaining the obvious to a monkey, no matter how well i explain it, ill just get feces thrown at me"

                                      Funny!! And unfortunately contextually true.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #1.83 - Tue May 15, 2012 8:46 PM EDT

                                      Feisty writes:

                                      Just as I suspected - you throw out baseless comments & when challenged on it, you wimp out & twist yourself into a human pretzel! lol There she is laughing at herself again.

                                      Well, I guess the good news is, you've been proven to be the liar we have suspected all along!

                                      There is something known as a credibilty factor which you have failed in EPICALLY!

                                      SWEET!

                                      My job here is done! No it's not, you always say that but it's just your blathering ego thinking you're something that you absolutely are not. You never "finish" anything nor could you.

                                      Then in another she says "time to put up or shut up", Well feisty it looks like you need to shut the fu#$ up then because you haven't put anything up with the exception of copying a NYT or move-on article.

                                      Feisty when the Fuc$ have you ever come back with a substantive argument about anything? You are so full of shi$ even barack is amazed at your spin and dodge ball ability. You've got zero room to say anything about anyone not stepping up to a challenge. I have yet to see you do anything except blab on about how superior you are when challenged with legitimate opposition. To use a term you're very familiar with; when it comes to the vine you are a total bully but the reality is you're the biggest candy azz on here. Presented with anything logic related and you run like a sissy...Frickin' COWARD!

                                      The blood pressure seems to be up quite high among the usual suspects. I think we need GWB to come out more often and maybe we'll get lucky and weed out a few of the really weak ones like you feisty.

                                      You got here first, good job girl, now sit...roll over...beg (I know you like that one)....play dead (more like brain-dead)...okay girl time to go back to your snake pit. You think you're so bad but you're a complete pushover...no wonder you love pointing at people and calling them bullies...you hate to share the spotlight.

                                        #1.84 - Tue May 15, 2012 8:56 PM EDT

                                        And again here she is; the "dumb fux" herself; Feisty dead-head

                                        Little boyz - it has been fun - but my work here is done!

                                        Have a nice evening... lol She's so simple it takes nothing to make her giggle, the ego is astounding

                                        Go soak you fat asses which have been thoroughly handed to ya all! Not even close to true but in your pea brain, you're the queen of the world and I think you truly believe this. You're like the village idiot who stands in the corner throwing out insults, laughing to yourself and thinking that you just got the best of someone.

                                        When all you have left are personal attacks - YOU have lost any credibility you might of had!

                                        Do you actually read what you write? I swear you're one of the biggest cases for psychiatric evaluation I've ever seen. I don't know that I've ever seen such an ego on an undeserving person. You make David Lee Roth seem like a humble awkward little school boy. Someone needs to study you, bottle whatever poisonous chemical flows through what little brain you have and then inject it in people with zero self esteme. Nah, even starting with no self esteem we'd have bunch of ego maniac ass holes running around. Popular isn't necessarily a good thing crusty dead-head. Genghis Khan was a pretty popular guy. Daaa-oooosh

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #1.85 - Tue May 15, 2012 9:15 PM EDT

                                        Looks like you guys will be joining me on Feisty's "exclusive ignore list". Yeah, I don't know either but it must be special because she sure talks about her "exclusive ignore list" a lot. Not sure if you're on it yet but I'll pre-empt by saying welcome aboard boys. Once she concedes to having the snot kicked out of her both above her level and at her level she will dump you to her "exlusive ignore list" where she'll pretend not to pay any attention to you. But she will.

                                        It kind of sucks always having to get wayyyy down in the pit that she dwells in but at the same time it's pretty fun. So I guess you could call it a guilty pleasure. But beware, you've got to come out once in a while and find a worthy adversary to take part in some honest debate with. (There are actually some well thought out arguments to be found on the vine) Because if you don't it will be like the black suit spider-man and evil will start to consume the good.

                                        Enjoy

                                          #1.86 - Tue May 15, 2012 9:26 PM EDT

                                          Yeah, Change, it's easy for Bush to say - but the House of Bush had always supported the House of Saud in NOT changing its brutal medieval monarchy - which produced so many unsavory events and personalities, including bin Laden.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #1.87 - Tue May 15, 2012 9:51 PM EDT

                                          Rightwingwac

                                          While everything youve said is true, youre saying it all to a parrot, theres no reason to attack feisty, technically it would be considered bullying because youre attacking a weaker person with lower self esteem. Just leave her alone. All she has is this blog, it's not like anyone with intelligence cares what she says, some people just humor her so she doesnt jump off a bridge. Let her live her own delusional life while pretending she has influence over others, because anyone with any self-respect wouldnt believe a thing she says.

                                            #1.88 - Tue May 15, 2012 11:14 PM EDT

                                            This is what happens when a government goes broke.

                                            You honestly have no concept of how the government of the United States functions do you?

                                            The government isn't a person that can go 'broke' because it lives forever.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #1.89 - Wed May 16, 2012 2:38 AM EDT

                                            Looks like George is just saying the obvious. Whatever happens in Libya , Egypt, Syria, etc is pretty much out of our hands and control. We can influence the events slightly and only slightly in those counrties. We can't invade them all. To bad he did see that earlier.

                                              #1.90 - Wed May 16, 2012 2:26 PM EDT
                                              Reply

                                              Obama is asking for a larger Chinese Credit Card on the same day there is a run on the banks in Greese due to similar Obama policies.

                                              WOW - just WOW

                                              • 7 votes
                                              Reply#2 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

                                              Chinese Credit Card? Where did you get that from?

                                              ChinaAid is a Chinese Christian Group that does humanitarian aid.

                                              • 17 votes
                                              #2.1 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

                                              No WOW just WOW that some moron can be so uninformed, just come out of the closet and wear your white sheets proudly.

                                              • 11 votes
                                              #2.2 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

                                              bo the dog: please dude go finish your GED before posting, and PLEASE don't vote...

                                              • 13 votes
                                              #2.3 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

                                              This from the guy with a pot leaf logo

                                              • 10 votes
                                              #2.4 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                                              What...you don't have any input about the article? Just bash everything this guy does, huh? PATHETIC!

                                              • 4 votes
                                              #2.5 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

                                              You might want to smoke what that logo represents Bo, it might open your mind.

                                              Watching Fox, or listening to Limbaugh will cause extreme stupidity, it is reversible in some cases.

                                              Bush might be so sick of the GOP today that he won't endorse anyone.

                                              • 10 votes
                                              #2.6 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

                                              Now I don't watch Fox, or Limbaugh......and to be honest I try my best to stay away from politics in general. But i must say this....The greatest cause of extreme stupidity comes from reading your posts (and to be fair many others here as well).

                                              I am so sick of this left vs right garbage. Unless you have millions of dollars to offer....it is unlikely that the Dems or the GOP care about your best interests. So cut the us vs them crap.I really don't understand the extreme loyalty to one side or the other?

                                              Also this country did not get to where it is by the actions of any single president....be it GW Bush, or Barrack Obama. People on the left seem to forget that GW got Congressional approval to go to war with Iraq. That approval included support from nearly 40% of the democrats in Congress at the time. People on the right seem to forget that the country fell much further into debt under GW Bush's watch then it did when Bill Clinton was president. So enough of the left vs. right garbage. PLEASE!!! Finger pointing will solve nothing and both parties are responsible for the problems we face today.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #2.7 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:19 PM EDT

                                              John, GW did endorse Romney today....the Kiss of Death!

                                              • 2 votes
                                              #2.8 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:33 PM EDT
                                              Reply

                                              It was good hearing from President Bush. A true statesman who doesn't blame others. Obama should have avoided blaming him for the liberal lending policies that got us into this recession. The first thing Obama should have done in '08 was hunt down Barney Frank and kick him in the pants. We need a leader who solves problems not blames others.....

                                              • 22 votes
                                              #3 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

                                              So UAW, It was good to hear from the man who tanked the economy, soiled the reputation of the United States overseas, and started an unnecessary war in Iraq because of a death threat to his daddy. Bush needs to return to the cave he crawled out of and stay there.

                                              • 29 votes
                                              #3.1 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

                                              This is sarcasm? "A true statesman" caught me off guard, there. I must know, are you being serious?

                                              I think you must be. And, as such, I thought your kind stopped using terms like "hunt down" after the Gabby Giffords hit. That talk is back on again?

                                              • 20 votes
                                              #3.2 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

                                              A true statesman that left office with two unfinished wars, and the worst recession in over 70 years. Please let him go back to texas to play cowboy with his buddy Dick.

                                              • 24 votes
                                              #3.3 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

                                              Pretty funny, UAWPleeeease, you accuse President Obama of blaming Bush for the financial crisis, then turn around and try to pin the blame on one little Representative of the House.

                                              • 14 votes
                                              #3.4 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

                                              Don't be blind! YOU people have nothing to add about the article except to BASH the president at all costs. Keep THAT nonsense up and he'll be re-elected for sure!

                                              • 4 votes
                                              #3.5 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:04 PM EDT

                                              Hate to break it to you Amy, but good ol Barney pretty much single-handedly took down the nation's economy from the "little" post he held in the house. Housing bubble, legislating risky mortgages, any of that ring a bell?

                                              The rest,

                                              Is it really shocking news to you that Obama is a blameshifter? Seriously guys, its embarrassing. I respect the office, but the guy can't seem to take responsibility for anything. I'm not abig fan of many of Bush's policies, but the man was, and continues to be, respectable and principled.

                                              • 11 votes
                                              #3.6 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:08 PM EDT

                                              I love how all you idiots blame just Bush saying "He" tanked the economy, go back and check some history and quit blaming a person from a group that has been in the political minority in Washington since 2006. Since libs choose to ignore facts and truth over your delusional "We'll pay for it with Unicorns crapping rainbows made of money" fantasies. How can you have conveniently forgotten Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, the Democrat controlled House and Senate, yet somehow a republican minority for the first two years and a sole Republican controlled House undermined every stupid idea from The Obama. You should place the blame where it belongs, you look stupid still blaming Bush.

                                              • 9 votes
                                              #3.7 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

                                              I thought UAW lost their power years ago during Reagan (I was in Toledo and Michigan at several places making fully automatic car factories), so why on earth would you like Republicans, or did you forget to take your meds too?

                                              ---And Bush during his own presidency already got several hundred billion to bail out "private industry/banks", so what is it with your memory? is it those plastic lined dog food cans that got to your head creating Alzheimer's, or hormone imbalance? --Or is it just the Fox news media programming you?--I do not care about politics as a super engineer, we do not deal in opinions or politics, rest assured your computer chips manufacturer (IBM) would never have worked if I had taught them with a Republican or Democrat slant!!!!

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #3.8 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

                                              Come on Liberals take some freaking responsibility here. Do any of you remember this? Jeeeesh!

                                              In 2003, while the ranking minority member on the Financial Services Committee, Frank opposed a Bush administration proposal, in response to accounting scandals, for transferring oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from Congress and the Department of Housing and Urban Development to a new agency that would be created within the Treasury Department. The proposal, supported by the head of Fannie Mae, reflected the administration's belief that Congress "neither has the tools, nor the stature" for adequate oversight. Frank stated, "These two entities ...are not facing any kind of financial crisis ... The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."[47] In 2003, Frank also stated what has been called his "famous dice roll":[48] "I do not want the same kind of focus on safety and soundness [in the regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac] that we have in the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and the Office of Thrift Supervision. I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidised housing."[49] In July 2008, Frank said in an CNBC interview, "I think this is a case where Fannie and Freddie are fundamentally sound, that they are not in danger of going under. They’re not the best investments these days from the long-term standpoint going back. I think they are in good shape going forward."

                                              • 11 votes
                                              #3.9 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:36 PM EDT

                                              Anyone here defending any of these politicians for the state of our country and world are uninformed.

                                              Please search the "Federal Reserve" and read up on who really controls our foreign policy and our domestic policy. It isn't Barney or George or Barack. It's the Corporations. I'm really not trying to be critical, but this back and forth about who's to blame is exactly how the puppet masters want it.

                                              If we were really free and in a great place, why are the Feds having to create and foil terror attacks so they can implement the TSA, Department of Homeland Security, etc. ? Why did the DHS just buy 450,000,000 hollow point rounds? Who are they going to be using them on? How much do all those rounds cost? These are questions that don't have fun sounding answers. U.S.Citizens are being set up by the Banksters. United States of Goldman Sachs!

                                              • 6 votes
                                              #3.10 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

                                              Stone, There are liberals and then there are you conspiracy theorists. I'm not sure which hurts the country more....

                                                #3.11 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

                                                Wayne, I get tired of people like you. I just wish I could of taken a picture of all the Iraq people that begged us for help. Which went against UN Sanctions. The Orders to move my Hospital to Turkey to help the Kurds. The plea's to Congress to do something by the Liberals....

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #3.12 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

                                                Barney Frank created the housing bubble! Barney Frank declared two wars while cutting taxes! Barney Frank lost millions to fraud in Iraq! Barney Frank shot his friend in the face!

                                                • 6 votes
                                                #3.13 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:15 PM EDT

                                                AUWPLeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese........You are ABSOLUTLY CORRECT but, rock-head liberals can't read your post nor do they believe it. It is true.....I did the research but they won't. Dodd-Fwank ALLOWED the Fannie mae Freddie mac downfall.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #3.14 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

                                                UAW, there is nothing that hurts this country more than wing-nuts who rely on Focked News for their information.... But that's how Republicans "do their thing"... screw everything up and let the lies from Focked tell the sheep how good the GOTEAParty is

                                                • 5 votes
                                                #3.15 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:31 PM EDT
                                                Reply

                                                Can't wait for that Clown we have in office now to getting voted out.

                                                • 12 votes
                                                Reply#4 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

                                                Which one? Boehner? Could happen. I hope so, too.

                                                • 20 votes
                                                #4.1 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:29 PM EDT

                                                JFK-2112 - we ALL want Boehner out. Keeping our fingers crossed for November! But, at the very least, he won't be Speaker of the House anymore!

                                                • 10 votes
                                                #4.2 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

                                                Which one? Boehner? Could happen. I hope so, too.

                                                While we are at it, let's add McConnell and Cantor to the Clown Car and ship them off to Guantanamo Bay for acts of treason. Intentionally destroying the economy and the jobs market, and ruining millions of American lives to further their political careers sounds like high treason to me.

                                                • 10 votes
                                                #4.3 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

                                                JFK do you remember the sound Charlie Browns teacher made when she talked, she made more sense than you do.

                                                • 10 votes
                                                #4.4 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

                                                YOUR President of the United States WILL NOT be voted out...mark my words!

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #4.5 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

                                                While we are at it, let's add McConnell and Cantor to the Clown Car..

                                                I'm fine with that. I can't begin to describe my dislike of Eric Cantor. Predominantly because I live in Virginia and get to hear him spread his inane babble in both National and State media. I'm extremely thankful I don't live in his district.

                                                The sad reality is we have another guy just like Cantor currently in State government who also aspires to be on the National stage: Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #4.6 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

                                                --If you are talking about the current USA president, he was "voted in"--and will be "voted in" again, so you better move to La-La Land now! (Crawford Tex, I heard they are making a theme park!)

                                                --Hope he gets a new VP, Beiden is too old!

                                                  #4.7 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

                                                  ButtGuard.. Obama's clown Biden opened his mouth and sealed Obama's Legacy as the first GAY President.. Look at Obama's face when he makes his speech....

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #4.8 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

                                                  @Gulfwar9091

                                                  If you mean supporting freedom and equality for all, then yes, he is one of the few president that ever did that.

                                                  In case you didn't know about marriage license, it was first introduced to prevent "inter-racial" and "inter-faith" marriage. Guess it doesn't work out as they plan, right?

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #4.9 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:37 PM EDT
                                                  Reply

                                                  The Arab spring should be Embraced?? What is this guy thinking? Extreme Muslims that want to install Sharia law have taken over all these uprisings. All these countries will be ruled by some Ayatollah just like in Iran. And then they will Hate the U.S. just like Iran.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  Reply#5 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

                                                  So, Christian law is better, which one of the 10,000 registered Christian religions in NY State alone (most for tax write offs)? the Christians have the last 10 years killed over one million Muslims, looks like my old friends the Vikings a thousand years ago!

                                                    #5.1 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:36 PM EDT
                                                    Reply

                                                    Who, in their right mind, would ever pay the slightest attention to what this demonstrated moron has to say about anything, let alone foreign policy? A spectacular failure at every single thing he has ever touched, he is qualified to speak about nothing.

                                                    • 14 votes
                                                    Reply#6 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

                                                    joel

                                                    failure? Compared to Obama, Bush is a great president.

                                                    1. Saddam Hussein and his sons will never kill another American or anyone else

                                                    2. Record income tax revenues under Bush

                                                    3. Low unemployment

                                                    4. Captured the mastermind of 9/11 and the man who beheaded Daniel Pearl

                                                    5. Appointed two stellar Justices to the Supreme Court

                                                    Yes Bush was a flawed president, but he stands as someone so much more competent than the community organizer

                                                    • 10 votes
                                                    #6.1 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

                                                    2. record income tax revenues under bush? LIE outright LIE

                                                    3. How low was unemployment on January 20, 2009? another LIE

                                                    5. Stellar Justices? you mean the two CONS that ensured corporations and foreign countries have unfettered access to US elections? Oh, yeah, those two.

                                                    • 16 votes
                                                    #6.2 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                                                    larry: yeah, hussein is gone..at the cost of a trillion dollars and uncounted dead and injured americans.

                                                    since he wasn't a threat to the US in the first place, iraq was stupid..but larry, you keep pushing it like it was wonderful!

                                                    and obama's record against al quada is much better than bush's..but you keep ignoring that too larrry, shows you what a partisan hack you are.

                                                    low unemployment? yeah, thanks to a housing bubble..which crashed underneath him..Keep cherry picking facts larry.

                                                    larry, you are so biased its almost amusing. But hey, you're running away to south america, so that shows you what you think of america. how pathetic.

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    #6.3 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

                                                    sam e

                                                    here you go; straight from the CBO historic tables

                                                    http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/ftpdocs/120xx/doc12039/historicaltables[1].pdf

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #6.4 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

                                                    Low Unemployment under Bush???????

                                                    What country were you living in during 2008-2009, Larry?

                                                    This is more like the way most people remember those terrible times:

                                                    "Employers slashed another 598,000 jobs off of U.S. payrolls in January"

                                                    "The latest job loss is the worst since December 1974, and brings job losses to 1.8 million in just the last three months, or half of the 3.6 million jobs that have been lost since the beginning of 2008."

                                                    "The loss since November is the biggest 3-month drop since immediately after the end of World War II, when the defense industry was shutting down for conversion to civilian production."

                                                    "The unemployment rate is now at its highest level since September, 1992."

                                                    http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/06/news/economy/jobs_january/index.htm

                                                    P.S. - Your link to the CBO site just takes you to "Requested page not found"

                                                    • 6 votes
                                                    #6.5 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:05 PM EDT

                                                    and who can forget bush trying to appoint miers to scotus: "On October 3, 2005, Bush nominated Miers to serve as an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court. Miers' nomination was criticized by people all over the political spectrum based on her never having served as a judge, her perceived lack of intellectual rigor, her close personal ties to Bush, and her lack of a clear record on issues likely to be encountered as a Supreme Court Justice. Many notable conservatives vigorously criticized her nomination, and numerous conservative groups normally considered part of Bush's political base planned to mount an organized opposition campaign."

                                                    yeah, some "competent" person he was. lol. even the conservatives were laughing at him.

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #6.6 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

                                                    Vermontguy

                                                    Saddam Hussein paid out over 35 million dollars to Arab jihadists for killing Jews and Americans. The following Americans were killed by those who took Saddam's blood money. Leaving aside all other reasons, this alone was sufficient reason for the US to take out Saddam Hussein

                                                    According to employees of the Iraqi Central Bank and the Rafidain Bank, the former Iraqi ambassador to Jordan, Sabah Yassen, withdrew money from the accounts to make payments ranging from $15,000 to $25,000 to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers, Hyde said.

                                                    Palestinians have said Saddam paid more than $35 million to families of Palestinians killed or wounded in the conflict with Israel that began in September 2000.

                                                    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500257_162-656284.html

                                                    November 4, 2001, Jerusalem, Israel. Shoshana Ben-Yishai, 16, of Queens, NY was killed in a shooting at a bus station. U.S. citizen injured: Shlomo Kaye.

                                                    December 2, 2001, Jerusalem, Israel. Bombing on Ben-Yehuda Street, Jerusalem. U.S. citizens injured: Ziv Brill, 17, of West Hempstead, Long Island, NY, Temima Spetner, 19, of St. Louis, MI, Jason Kirshenbaum of New Rochelle, NY, Israel Hirschfield, 18, Joseph Leifer, 29, of Borough Park (Brooklyn), NY.

                                                    December 18, 2001, shooting on the Jerusalem-Shilo road. U.S. citizens injured: David Rubin, 44, of Brooklyn, NY, Asher "Ruby" Rubin, 3.

                                                    January 15, 2002, Bethlehem, West Bank. Avraham Boaz, 71, of New York, a dual Israeli-American citizen, was kidnapped at a PA security checkpoint in Beit Jala and murdered.

                                                    January 18, 2002: Shooting in Hadera. U.S. citizen killed: Aaron Elis, 32, son of Chicago family.

                                                    January 22, 2002: Shooting in Jerusalem, Israel. U.S. citizen injured: Shayna Gould, 19, of Chicago, IL

                                                    January 27, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. A Palestinian woman triggered a massive explosion in downtown Jerusalem killing one elderly Israeli and injuring more than 150, including American Mark Sokolow, his wife, and 16 and 12-year-old daughters. Sokolow had earlier survived the September 11 attack on the World Trade Center, escaping from his law office on the 38th floor of the South Tower before it collapsed.

                                                    February 8, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. Stabbing in Abu Tor Peace Forest Jerusalem. U.S. citizen killed: Moranne Amit, 25

                                                    February 15, 2002, near Ramallah, West Bank. Lee Akunis was shot to death.

                                                    February 16, 2002: Bombing in Karnei Shomron. U.S. citizens killed: Keren Shatsky, 14, of Brooklyn, NY and Maine, Rachel Thaler, 16, of Baltimore, MD. U.S. citizens injured: Lior Thaler, 14, of Baltimore, MD, Hillel Trattner of Chicago, IL, Ronit Yucht Trattner of Chicago, IL, Chani Friedman of New York.

                                                    February 19, 2002: Shooting near Neve Dekalim. U.S. citizens injured: Moshe Saperstein of New York.

                                                    February 25, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. Moran Amit, 25, was stabbed to death in Abu Tor Peace Forest in Jerusalem.

                                                    March 7, 2002, Eshel Hashomron Hotel, Ariel, Israel. A Christian tourist from Arkansas lost her right eye in an attack by a suicide bomber.

                                                    March 21, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. Bombing on a Jerusalem street. U.S. citizens injured: Alan Joseph Bauer, 37, of Chicago, Yonathon Bauer, 7 (dual U.S.-Israeli citizenship).

                                                    March 24, 2002, Ofra, Israel. Shooting near Ofra. U.S. citizens killed: Esther Kleinman, 23, formerly of Chicago, IL.

                                                    March 27, 2002, Netanya, Israel. U.S. citizen Hannah Rogen, 90, was killed in a suicide attack at a Passover Seder.

                                                    March 31, 2002, Efrat, Israel. Bombing in Efrat. U.S. citizens injured: An unidentified American citizen.

                                                    June 18, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. Moshe Gottlieb, 70, of Los Angeles, CA was killed in a bus bombing in Jerusalem.

                                                    June 19, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. Gila Sara Kessler, 19, whose family came from New York, was killed in a bombing at a bus stop.

                                                    July 31, 2002, Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel. Nine people were killed when a bomb exploded in the main cafeteria at the Hebrew University's Mount Scopus campus in Jerusalem. Five were U.S. citizens: Janis Ruth Coulter, 36, of MA; Marla Bennet, 24, of San Diego, CA; David Gritz (also a French citizen), 24, of Peru, MA; Benjamin Blutstein, 25, of Susquehanna Township, PA; and Dina Carter, 37, of NC. Israelis David Ladovsky, 29, and Levina Shapira, 53 also died in the bombing. U.S. citizens injured: Spencer Dew, 26, of Owensboro, Kentucky; Zeev Spencer; Harris Gershon; Jamie Harris. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

                                                    March 5, 2003: Bus bombing in Haifa. U.S. citizens killed: Abigail Leitel, 14, who was born in Lebanon, New Hampshire.

                                                    March 7, 2003: Shooting in the victims’ home. U.S. citizens killed: Rabbi Eli Horowitz, 52, who grew up in Chicago; Dina Horowitz, 50, who grew up in Florida

                                                    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/usvictims.html

                                                    • 6 votes
                                                    #6.7 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

                                                    Way to go Larry Robinson, hit them with facts as they like.

                                                    sam e-1288771, where do you get your facts? I think the dictionary on how to spell the word Lies.

                                                    • 6 votes
                                                    #6.8 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

                                                    JoAnne,

                                                    If you copy the whole link and paste it into the browser, it does link to the chart. All things considered, just on a cursory look over the Bush years, year 1, positive, year 2, (during 9/11) negative, years 3-8, larger negative, but fairly steady considering two wars. Whereas Obama years 1 and two, doubled the net negative while ending wars.

                                                      #6.9 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:29 PM EDT

                                                      larry: what can I say? the iraq invasion was justified on nukes and bio weapons,. People have died in isreal from terrorist attacks before, during, and after saddam. nice cherry picking of random deaths.

                                                      again - iraq was one of the biggest fiascoes in american history, and your attempt to make it heroic is stupid.

                                                      and the rest of your "glory" of bush is just assorted cherry picking of facts. lol.

                                                      • 3 votes
                                                      #6.10 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:29 PM EDT

                                                      ---And USA paid almost 1 trillion US to kill ONE MILLION on IRAQ directly and indirectly!--- you want to list the names of my friends in the military-who never came home----By date--- or is it enough when they get a flag in a box?--please get with it will you!

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      #6.11 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:48 PM EDT

                                                      vermontguy-

                                                      The Iraq was was justified on Material Breach; a MB stated by the Clinton Administration and the UN. That additional fact fully justified the resumption of hostilities from the 1992 Gulf War Cease Fire Agreement under international law.

                                                      Two of the Three parties to that Cease Fire Agreement (signed by Gen Norman Schwarzkopf) were the US and UK who legally resumed military action

                                                        #6.12 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

                                                        bill clinton spent 1 trillion us dollars "containing" sadaam from 1993-2000

                                                        ...during this time 1 million iraqis were killed with sanctions and bombing

                                                        george bush spent 1 trillion dollars liberating iraq...and killing sadaam

                                                        .....during this time 150,000 iraqis died as a result of the war.

                                                        • 2 votes
                                                        #6.13 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

                                                        Romney on a radio program in October called the Arab Spring "out of control." “We’re facing an Arab Spring which is out of control in some respects," he said, "because the president was not as strong as he needed to be in encouraging our friends to move toward representative forms of government."

                                                        Willard "Mitt" Romney, the US has no friends in the Arab Middle East...we have "suppliers", but not friends. The sooner you realize that, and get your head out of your butt, the better off we'll all be. Mistaking suppliers as "friends" is what Republicans do best and is what costs the rest of us.

                                                          #6.14 - Wed May 16, 2012 11:58 AM EDT
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                                                          Reading the comments by President Bush, I can't help but think:

                                                          1. I really miss having a competent president

                                                          2. Bush is a giant of a president compared to the occupier in the White House

                                                          3. We sure could use a real president, even a flawed one like Bush instead of the unqualified community organizer.

                                                          • 10 votes
                                                          Reply#7 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

                                                          Ah yes, the good old days when terrorists flew planes into our buildings, when we waged wars in countries on a fools mission to find WMDs, the fun times of one of the worst stock market crashes known in modern times, massive debts that extrapolate to GDP percentages not seen since prior to world war II. Thanks, but I'll pass.

                                                          • 15 votes
                                                          #7.1 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

                                                          yeah, a giant imbecile. iraq will go down as one of the biggest fiascos in american history..regardless of what partisan hacks like larry think.

                                                          • 5 votes
                                                          #7.2 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

                                                          vermontguy, I knew you had a lot of anti-american sentiments, but try reading the names of all the American citizens killed by Saddam Hussein's blood money in my post at 2:10 pm and then spout your nonsense.

                                                          I'm proud of the Iraq War; I'm proud that one of my sons was in the Marine unit that first crossed into Baghdad; I'm proud we took out Saddam and his two sons.

                                                          • 2 votes
                                                          #7.3 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

                                                          Yea! Just what we need. He murdered my only son and 4500 other brave souls whom he sent in search of WMD's that existed only in his demented mind. This man should be in prison for crimes against humanity. You must be as damned crazy as he was. Were there any justice in this world bush, cheney and rumsfeld would have climbed the gallows following Sadam. They were all evil dirty little men.

                                                          • 7 votes
                                                          #7.4 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:22 PM EDT

                                                          Larry, are you referring to the same Saddam Hussein that Bush's Secretary of Defense personally met with and provided WMD to? That would be Rumsfeld, who was Reagan's goto guy for supporting the very same Saddam Hussein you credit Bush with killing. And how many innocent people died along the way of finishing off this one person? Why didn't you list the dates that they were killed, just to "protect them" from Hussein? And how many innocent people in Baghdad did your son "take out" to accomplish that?

                                                          • 3 votes
                                                          #7.5 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

                                                          larry: anti-american? lol, you are the one running to south america. :)

                                                          proud of iraq? its a fiasco. You can be proud of our soldiers, but the war itself was a disaster, and all your posturing won't change that.

                                                          • 2 votes
                                                          #7.6 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

                                                          Atlas I am sorry for your loss, But I was there both times and there was WMD(just not Nuclear) Try Google the UN and Iraq(WMD)

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          #7.7 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:15 PM EDT

                                                          Mr. Robinson...

                                                          If baffoon-in-chief bush was such a great president, why is it that NOT ONE republican presendential candidate wanted him within 1,000 miles of his campaign?

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          #7.8 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:39 PM EDT

                                                          Larry

                                                          And Iran is also grateful to President Bush Jr. for taking out Sadam Hussein, the primary check on their mid-east hegemony ambition. They now have significant influence in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine. By shifting attention from Afghanistan to Iraq, he transformed a righteous campaign in the middle east to an unpopular "anti-Muslim" crusade.

                                                          a Romney administration will pursue a strategy of supporting groups and governments across the Middle East to advance the values of representative government, economic opportunity, and human rights, and opposing any extension of Iranian or jihadist influence.

                                                          Mitt the Barber's primary contest rhetoric was to outboast Gingrich on who would be the first to invade Iran, expressing John Bolton's extremely narrow view of the complexities of the disparate middle east actors.

                                                          Bishop Mitt will signify his success in the novel strategy of promoting human rights and containing jihadist influence by causing a bush to burn in Horab.

                                                            #7.9 - Tue May 15, 2012 8:00 PM EDT

                                                            It is people like you who I tried to tell how bad bush's 2nd term would be but you would not listen. I will do everything I can to see we don't make the same mistake with romney.

                                                              #7.10 - Wed May 16, 2012 7:40 AM EDT
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                                                              Just go away, Bush! Haven't you done enough damage to America?

                                                              • 7 votes
                                                              Reply#8 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

                                                              Don't be so knee jerk political. Bush has a good point, and I think he's right on this issue.

                                                                #8.1 - Tue May 22, 2012 12:10 PM EDT
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                                                                "After the euphoria, nations must deal with questions of tremendous complexity," he said, adding, "Problems once kept submerged by force must now be resolved by politics and consensus." Bush said that? Without stuttering? Somebody put a voice implant in him.

                                                                • 5 votes
                                                                Reply#9 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

                                                                Oh no,

                                                                The little idiot is getting in on the act because the risk necessary to preserve every one's human -not even civil rights- is required but for a criminal defense we have switched places with the worst dictatorships on earth where the most sickening destruction is carried out to make people's death look like it is their own fault.

                                                                Truly are extraordinary times when the perception of "big freedom" allows this nation to have more power and control over its citizens than the worst dictatorship...

                                                                Just get that two party format setup -along with a bad guy-and you can have more power and control over your people than any dictatorship because then it becomes the nation's extrajudicial interests and you can take away more and more under cover of ensuring less and less (down to zero) level of security...

                                                                I want to go back to the root predicate of how I could of been sabotaging a program that was impossible for me to know existed and was encircling my life to utterly pull the rug right out from under it -and destroy it without me knowing it was all orchestrated by a military grade satellite system- using war powers -that control outcome outside of guilt or innocence-that the FBI conceals..

                                                                Cause after that failed this piece of garbage simply made the decision to explore my known innocence -when there wasn't one fact to suggest otherwise-with the deepest spectrum of stellar wind and suspend me in the most sickening state imaginable as anyone I was forced to speak to about this was simply considered a "suspect" along the no cause tin foil and had the same program causing me the most severe suffering run through their heads-under cover of isolating something that doesn't exist-to suppress its use and even contribute to a false profile by provoking a reaction that would dismiss this entire mushrooming extrajudicial operation...

                                                                I would like to get back to that core and examine everything that happened since then -since grave threat was baked in from day one-because it is a claim against every single citizen and while it may be easier to think it is no big deal suppressing the destruction of other US citizens to live with cowardly shame, it is still a claim against everyone's rights..

                                                                ...cause this is the most sickening program in the world that was field tested on innocent US citizens and can force them to die...military force...

                                                                and the most sickening and powerful power has to run along lines where guilt or innocence can not be considered -along national interest lines-which is the greatest democratic and legal contradiction there is because the farther away someone is from guilt the more the national interest backbone of this nation has to be invoked taking away what is truly most important -life-for the most shameful of reasons...

                                                                At the end of the day "freedom" is becoming a counter intelligence "theme" that allows perceived democracies to exercise more brutal power and control along national interest lines than full blown dictatorships would be able to because the sickest pieces of @!$%# in human history need to hide behind the most general themes as the reality of what they have done far surpass these dictatorships...

                                                                  Reply#10 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

                                                                  And WHO is running with the football now??? The Democrat's and they are Marching full steam ahead..

                                                                    #10.1 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

                                                                    Full Steam into the GOP Wall. Or did you forget the senate filibuster and the GOP controlled house? Anything good the President might get done is being blocked for pure political reasons. Everything you try to pin on Obama, is really something Congress did. Congress is supposed to pass a budget. Failed. Congress worked out the debt dea. Blown. Congress wrote the laws that spent the money that we need to now borrow, and Congress declared the subsequent debt ceiling issue a crisis. Total Manufactured Fail. Congress got our rating dropped. Epic Fail.

                                                                      #10.2 - Tue May 22, 2012 12:10 PM EDT
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                                                                      "The U.S. intervened in Libya, but only after building a multilateral approach and letting NATO take the lead."

                                                                      Now THAT is a wonderful rewrite of history! The US only intervened in Libya AFTER several NATO countries did everything in their power to make Obama intervene and even then after we were involved he claimed we were in combat, etc. The US didn't build a multilateral approach, it simply joined one and tried to claim it was just a junior partner...until now and all of a sudden it was all Obama's doing! HA! This is why our children and young adults have no grasp on what really happened in recent history, let alone our national history.

                                                                      • 5 votes
                                                                      Reply#11 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

                                                                      How many of our troops died fighting in Libya? Well done Preident Obama. That filthy little whelp that preceeded you would have been sneaking coffins into Dover at night just like he did with my son in Iraq.

                                                                      He should be in prison with the rest of his serial killer enablers like coward dick cheney and incompetent rumsfeld and wolfowitz. History is judging these dirty filthy little men. Hell cannot be hot enough for any of them.

                                                                      • 4 votes
                                                                      #11.1 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

                                                                      The victors always get to write history as they see fit. Didn't you know that? Always has been that way, because wars are always in the end political, no matter what anyone says. This is only an early draft. You can expect more rewrites in the future. If you think there is some golden, pure "truth" out there in history, you are quite naive, or at least greatly mistaken.

                                                                      • 1 vote
                                                                      #11.2 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:24 PM EDT

                                                                      Not that you are right. It is our world right now and our voice should be heard Mr. History. You are totally naive when you think history books are only written by cheaters. Read the novel 'Twins in Arms' that might elite you to the truth of what false history lead to.

                                                                        #11.3 - Tue May 15, 2012 11:07 PM EDT

                                                                        lol - never said it was right. Just said that the peole who win always get to write the history, and they will always put themselves in the best light. Always. Its universal human nature to disregard the bad things you do in light of the benefits produced. And I never said such behavior doesn't have a bad effect. That's why we keep on making the same mistakes over and over and over again. Call me cynical if you like, but I tell you it is how the mind works.

                                                                          #11.4 - Wed May 16, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

                                                                          Atlas - Very good response to nothing that was written.

                                                                            #11.5 - Fri May 18, 2012 3:44 PM EDT
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                                                                            Despite being the president immediately preceding Obama, gwbush is also probably the LEAST active of all living former presidents.

                                                                            • 1 vote
                                                                            Reply#12 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

                                                                            IMO, he should take a page from Carter.

                                                                            By that I mean GWB should sit down and shut up for a while (more than 4 years!), let the country do its thing, let people largely forget about his terms, then reappear and start doing pseudo-political work.

                                                                            Carter has completely rebranded his image from his one term Presidency by just lying low and then taking an active role as an advocate in public and social policy decades later.

                                                                            Right now, no one wants to hear from GWB. Not even the Republicans who will likely try to distance themselves from this very statement. He's still too much of a negative, and polarizing, presence just as Carter was a negative, and polarizing, presence well into the 90's.

                                                                              #12.1 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:01 PM EDT

                                                                              Wrong, I think anyone who loves America needs to hear from president Bush who had the courage to take out our enemies and stop their attacks on Americans.

                                                                              Obama has proven that he is every bit as incompetent and unqualified to be president as many of us feared he would be.

                                                                              Bush did a lot of stupid liberal domestic policy things, but even with that, he's a 1000 times better than the current occupier killing time in the White House

                                                                              • 3 votes
                                                                              #12.2 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:17 PM EDT

                                                                              Bush did a lot of stupid liberal domestic policy things, but even with that, he's a 1000 times better than the current occupier killing time in the White House

                                                                              And yet, even the Republican establishment wants to shove him under the rug.

                                                                              Which seems to dispute your claims when even his former party wants him to go away and they take great pains to distance themselves from him.

                                                                              I'm not going to say Obama's been great (far from it). Both have been equally bad as "leaders".

                                                                              • 1 vote
                                                                              #12.3 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

                                                                              Newsvine double post, sorry.

                                                                                #12.4 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

                                                                                Amazing how many posts here are of the form suggesting that Bush stay quiet. Interesting the same posters are not so vocal when one of their own, Bill Clinton, bloviates at a rate that is orders of magnitude greater then Bush (either one).

                                                                                • 1 vote
                                                                                #12.5 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

                                                                                KJ Green, I'll take this one. I am quite used to my curious 4 yr. old grandson firing so many questions that some of them appear rather silly.

                                                                                President Clinton's campaign motto was, "It's the economy, stupid". He proceeded to lead this country with methods that resulted in the healthiest and most robust economy in American history.

                                                                                President G.W. Bush promised to serve as a compassionate conservative and led the country into 2 costly unfunded wars and an expensive unfunded Medicare drug plan as he depleted the U.S. treasury with enormous tax cuts (particularly for the wealthy) at the very same time FOR the very first time. This led the country to the precipice of economic disaster to rival the Great Depression in eight short years.

                                                                                President Clinton proved to be an accomplished leader that led his nation to prosperity and left it at peace. President G.W. Bush proved to be an incompetent boob that left his nation in economic disaster while occupied with two simultaneous wars. The first is a valued speaker at many events by many people through-out the world. The second is rarely asked to speak at events except those sponsored by partisan fools to draw him out of the closet.

                                                                                I will exit quickly now before you ask, " why is the sky blue?", to reserve my patience for a little guy that only asks such questions to satisfy his enormous curiosity instead of foolish partisan B.S.

                                                                                • 1 vote
                                                                                #12.6 - Tue May 15, 2012 9:41 PM EDT

                                                                                Larry

                                                                                I completely agree with you. Bush Jr. should give the keynote speech in Tampa to remind us of his contributions to America. Mitt the Barber's GOP administration will feature many members of Bush Jr's administration (like John Bolton) so we should have the opportunity to hear from the man who appointed them.

                                                                                  #12.7 - Wed May 16, 2012 12:09 PM EDT
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                                                                                  he needs to just be quiet.

                                                                                  • 1 vote
                                                                                  Reply#13 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                                                                                  I actually miss Bush. He was a guy everyone could openly hate. He was the kid that the "no child left behind" policy was made for.

                                                                                  Now a days you're either labeled as a racist or a republican the moment you say anything bad about Obama.

                                                                                  • 8 votes
                                                                                  Reply#14 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                                                                                  It depends what you say and where you get your information. BLOGS are not reputable and most are racists or republicans...there you have it.

                                                                                  • 1 vote
                                                                                  #14.1 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:07 PM EDT
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                                                                                  He still doesn't have a clue.

                                                                                  • 4 votes
                                                                                  Reply#15 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

                                                                                  I voted for him twice. He started as a good president and ended miserably. Now he seems to want to follow in the footsteps of our worst president and worst post president ever, jimmie carter. obama will eclipse them both for incompetence and pure evil. As long as people in DC embrace big government as the solution, we will continue our slide into mediocrity and bankruptcy both economic and moral. If that happens we are sure for a downfall and revolution. The problem for the progressive socialists who are engineering this debacle, other western social democracies will fall to the muslims, chinese and russians before they get what they want. Then true American Patriots will save the USA and the world once again.

                                                                                  • 2 votes
                                                                                  Reply#16 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:50 PM EDT

                                                                                  PaulfromNM,

                                                                                  Because of stupid people like you, we are in this mess. How does it feel to be one of the idiots who contributed to the downfall of this country?

                                                                                  • 9 votes
                                                                                  #16.1 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:57 PM EDT

                                                                                  beadarg,

                                                                                  Don't blame us, we didn't vote for liberals and certainly not for the incompetent community organizer

                                                                                  • 3 votes
                                                                                  #16.2 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:18 PM EDT

                                                                                  No, Larry, you voted for Bush, owned by the neocons and his religious zealotry, who got us into the mess(es) we are in. Good for you, Larry, you must really hate your country.

                                                                                  • 4 votes
                                                                                  #16.3 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

                                                                                  "American's message should ring clear and strong," Bush said. "We stand for freedom -- and for the institutions and habit that make freedom work for everyone." You know, Bush has horrible foresight, but his wording is snake-like as always. He wants institutions to make freedom "work" for everyone. Freedom, doesn't "work" for anyone Mr. Bush, it's is free. The problem is that institutions teach habits that are conducive to work and label them as freedom, which is really just a dictatorship wrapped up in a pretty bow. One vote should represent one vote and not the ideas of an institution.

                                                                                  • 1 vote
                                                                                  #16.4 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:01 PM EDT
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                                                                                  He must be finished cutting all the shrub back in TX so now he will bestow all his wisdom upon the world, mean while the GOP are running in circles trying to find a sock big enough to shut him up, keep blabbering Bush after the number you did on the country there are many that have forgotten your terrible reign, so keep talking, maybe some of the tin foil hatters will wake up and realize we can't go back.

                                                                                  • 4 votes
                                                                                  Reply#17 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

                                                                                  God I miss Bush....not talking about Fiesty Red head's but about the Man, the true leader. Obama is making Bush look better and better!

                                                                                  • 3 votes
                                                                                  Reply#18 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

                                                                                  hahahahaha....good joke

                                                                                  • 6 votes
                                                                                  #18.1 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

                                                                                  obama's foreign policy is better than bush's. bush's economics consisted of "hope the housing bubble continues".

                                                                                  obama is hardly stellar, but bush was both lucky and incompetent.

                                                                                  • 2 votes
                                                                                  #18.2 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

                                                                                  Bleedingheartoo:

                                                                                  I miss Bush too, but for the comic relief. Even Bush admitted later, it was really more a Cheney Presidency, but Bush was more "electable."

                                                                                  • 1 vote
                                                                                  #18.3 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

                                                                                  You KNOW your talking nonsense...right? So, what's your motive?

                                                                                  • 1 vote
                                                                                  #18.4 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:08 PM EDT

                                                                                  You probably would not want Fiesty as I bet she smells as Nasty as she sound's

                                                                                    #18.5 - Tue May 15, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

                                                                                    I don't know about that Gulfwar9091 but I'm sure you are a stupid as you do

                                                                                      #18.6 - Tue May 15, 2012 7:47 PM EDT
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                                                                                      His is such a moron. Why would he even thing that anyone even remotely would be interested on what he has to say.

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                                                                                      Reply#19 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

                                                                                      I'm interested....and by the way...try using the spell check MORON! Ha!

                                                                                        #19.1 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:07 PM EDT
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                                                                                        Who gives a flying fig what AWOL George thinks? The man is a compete idiot.

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                                                                                        Reply#20 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

                                                                                        He also said he misses the days when he owned the Texas Rangers and could do blow all night and then go home and pass out in his own puke and no one cared! It's called STRATEGORY folks, strategory!

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                                                                                        Reply#21 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

                                                                                        lol @ Larry. A "competent" president who started 2 wars and neglected to fund either of them. A "competent" president who decided after starting 2 wars that he "really wasn't interested" in catching the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. A "competent" president who drunk-spent his way through his entire presidency and then ran away and left the tab for someone else to pick up.

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                                                                                        Reply#22 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

                                                                                        So I guess the GOP line is to criticize Obama if he does to little and if he does to much?

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                                                                                        Reply#23 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

                                                                                        American freedoms have been ignored for the Middle East agenda in support of Israeli demand that have prostituted the US Congress and Oval Office for the ultimate agenda, Middle East unrest, take-over and all to help poor little Israel stay safe from her enemies. How about that 3 billion a year in American tax dollars that is supporting the killing machine Israeli Defense Force and military hardware budget? How about sending in inspectors to expose the 400 plus nuclear bombs that are hidden in Dimona? Bush, the worst advocate for human freedom and the biggest political liar. All that he cares for American freedoms is to watch the US hard working American taxpayer's dollar filling D.C.'s coffers, so does Israel BTW.

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                                                                                        Reply#24 - Tue May 15, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

                                                                                        I miss Bush too, but for the comic relief. Even Bush admitted later, it was really more a Cheney Presidency, but Bush was more "electable."

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                                                                                        Reply#25 - Tue May 15, 2012 5:00 PM EDT
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