At what point does he apologize for the dumb things he has done since school? I mean for all the years since school?

Maybe he should just slink back home and ride the elevator up and down and try to think things through!

Sheish!

Obama/Biden 2012

So Romney was a bully who couldn't stand people who didn't conform to his rigid ideology. What a surprise. Bullying is a huge character flaw.

sorry spanks, but I happen to think drug use and bullying show to different character traits. One, shows a young kid liking to party, while the other shows someone with little compassion and no moral compass.

Blowing coke doesnt make you a bad person in my book, but someone looking for a good time. but pinning a kid against a wall and cutting his hair against his will, does.

Ok Spanky. Then I guess enough time has passed for Hitler too. Bullying is a characater flaw. But not as big as not be able to say your sorry for specifics.

Was everyone up in arms about Bush experminentation with cocaine? Or only for the guy in office. Logic is not subjective its consistent something your argument lacks.

"If I did stupid things, I'm afraid I've got to say sorry for it," Romney said.

Romney is AFRAID he has to say sorry? Why? What's he AFRAID of?

And IF--IF he did something stupid??? Bullying a fellow student and actually CUTTING HIS HAIR AGAINST HIS WILL? There is no "IF" about it...

Except IF Romney cannot even take personal responsibility for that sort of WRONG behavior--what else will he refuse responsibility for as a potential POTUS? Puhleeeeeeeze!

spanky's new computer I hope you got a MAC. Coke a mind altering narcotic? Give me a break. If we were going to be bullish on this How many in Washington have used before? I'll bet that is allot in both parties. I guess what your saying if one has used they cannot run for office?

Look at rush he lost his hearing due to, to much oxy. Talk of mind altering drugs. Then you people follow the man.

First Read --

The newspaper reported that Romney was reportedly offended by the student's flashy hairstyle. "He can't look like that," one former classmate recalled Romney telling him. "That's wrong. Just look at him!"

LoL Pat from Boston -- You had it exactly right in your post on First Thoughts.

Mitt Romney as vigilante arbiter of hairstyles.

Too bad he's never taken the scissors to Donald Trump.

Spanky's new computer --

Which one was an adult when they engaged in the particular activity? See how that might be relevant?

Yes, relevant. Just like what was Romney's age when he caged the dog on the top of the car.

Hiya, Spanky. Nice to see you again, but unfortunately, it sounds like the same old computer to me.

Bill-2910238 - your allegation is blatantly not true. There were never any accusations of sexual harassment against President Obama while he was at Harvard - by men or women. Why would you post such lies? Don't you know those things can be verified? It only make you look stupid.

"I'm quite a different guy now."

You are different Mittens, you are even meaner and more vicious than you were then! In High School you bullied and tormented classmates but as an adult you destroy lives with your draconian attacks on the poor, women, gays, Latinos, blacks, workers, teachers and children. The really bad villains never look scary and disfigured, they look like Mitt Romney!

Mitt Vicious should be his new nickname.

He did not remember the incident because he never gave it a second thought, it was just business as usual

robin hot in nm Why the hate?

Robin hot in NM - the only confusion about President Obama's religion is in the minds of the far right who tend to make up whatever they think will hurt Obama. He has always been a Christian. Now, frankly, what the hell does it matter? We have a very specific separation of church and state in our Federal Government. As Colin Powell said, "more importantly, if he is Muslim, why would that be important?" Do you get it now? A total non-issue!

George Hayduke Sr., you should have gone to SNOPES prior to posting as all of your lies are clearly refuted there. You'll have better luck if you post on a site that appeals to first graders - oops, they may be too smart for you.

Obama/Biden 2012

"If" you did stupid things? We all did stupid things in high school. (Or in your case, prep school.) But most have us feel bad about hurting people we perceived as weak. Mitt doesn't seem to have such remorse.

vtbobb Lets spend some time on a dead mans past. What's your point? How many years ago was that?

Anybody that needs to use this many words to say, "I'm sorry" isn't sorry.

Romney, "I'm afraid I've got to say sorry for it"

The funny thing about real bullies, they never remember how they acted or what they did. Their victims remember each incident in vivid detail and it colors their entire being. I would bet that Willard Romney could not say whose hair he cut in high school, but I'm sure the person who he did it to remembers Willard Romney. I would imagine the child lived in fear of being attacked every day while he was in high school.

Bullies never truly change their nature. The sense of entitlement which allows them to believe that their position is correct and no one else matters permeates their very being. It does not change with age, it only changes if they have a life altering experience, such as happens in the military. Since Willard Romney actively avoided military service, I doubt that he is a much different person. His stance against the poor and women demonstrates that he still feels entitled and truly has not changed.

Keep this scum and all of the rest of the GOP bullies out of office. Do not vote Republican in November.

Smitty - didn't even know Byrd was allowed to "run" from his grave! What else will these right wingers bring up????

My guess is "hot in NM" is so testy because he/she isn't really hot at all.

I'm torn on this one. Normally, I poo-poo what candidates did in their teens or even early 20s (30s, you should be an adult and screwing up big time then, is a completely different story). However, the story written here is a little more serious than "hijinks." This was an assault and battery. If someone pushed my kid up against the lockers and held him down to cut off his hair, I would be interested in pressing charges. This is a cut above hijinks folks.

Spanker---Are you saying assault is not a felony but drug use is ? Last I checked using any drug except maybe LSD is not a felony...Neither is possessing small amounts...But of course you live in the conservative bubble so you can't comprehend what I am typing anyway...

I wish that Koch sucker would try to hold me down.....I had long hair in school and bullies tried to bully me but I can't be bullied I whipped their rich boy football playing asses and embarrassed them in front of the whole school.....See I grew up learning how to protect myself not spending daddy's money..

Once again Romney speaks and says nothing ..Always saying it wasn't me, it wasn't my fault it was a prank . He never takes any responsibility for any thing he or his wife says ! His a America is a land with freedom for a chosen few ,not a free America . He strikes me as UN American !

Wait a second...Romney was quoted saying the U.S. can't be a leader by "hoping our enemies will hate us less," and that he wouldn't apologize for ANYTHING, yet HE is vying for that same leadership and decides it is okay NOW for apologizing, especially for an assault he committed in college? The GOP has the balls they've been corporate-bought since they have none, to voice their psuedo-christian disapproval concerning President Obama changing HIS mind on a LEGAL issue via the 14th Amendment?

I believe the exchange happened more like this:

"His hair can’t look prettier than mine," one former classmate recalled Romney telling him. "That’s wrong."

@Spanky. I love how it's totally okay to talk about how Obama tried cocaine but we were all nearly expressly forbidden to talk about how George W. was a drunk and a coke-head...not just a casual experimenter. But he found Jesus and cleaned up: that always wipes the slate clean, right?

Hardball Politics at its Finest, Chicago Style! Who would've thought that a Democratic President Barrack Hussein Obama, could Silence the RightWingBibleThumpers on a Social Issue, Takeaway the Whos Best to Protect America from the NeoCons, & on Top of That, Steer American Jobs(to the tune of over 4 Million& counting)), so that Americas Economy would Survive, back to America?

All the 53% of Real Americans who Voted for'em back in 2008, thats Who!

I am personally Glad that I can Proudly say that I was among that 53%!

Rick Hussein in KY!

Thank You Mr. President for taking the Fight to those who want America to go Backwards!

You Betcha!

Occupy SoggyBottom!

Bill-2910238

What a non-story. I am sure that you liberals think that the accusations of sexual harassment by Obama against several men while at Harvard make him unqualified to remain as President. Right?

I'm sure you have been reading too many tabloids.

So...Mitens was one of those elitest rich prepie kids whom would go around bulling anyone that was like him. Sounds like he hasent changed too much.

"Hey, its a long hair!! Git em'

F*ck you Mittens

Obama / Biden 2012

Not only did Mitt act as a bully haircutter in his youth, he went on to cut $140 million from Massachusetts higher ed funding during his tenure as gov. This approach to dealing with a fiscal reductions actually resulted in a 63% increase in tuitions. He missed the big picture by cutting education. I am convinced he will do the same, while ignoring the gains in education made by foreign countries. "Bully Cutting" is ingrained in his personality, no matter the cost. Let someone else deal with the "wreckage" is his motto.

VTBobb' - I wasn't happy about the Clinton situation. However, I do recall Monica told people, before she went to Washinton, that she was going to "get her Presidential knee pads on for Clinton." She was not an innocent little girl. No one held her down and forced her to do anything. She was a consenting adult. (This after moving to have an affair with a married professor she had gone after prior to the President). Plus, he was impeached for lying.

Romney attacked a person - not consenting at all.

And, lest you forget, President Clinton was re-elected with a large number of Republicans voting for him. So, try again.

Bill T from USA --

as a paid shill for first read, I predict carrot top's collapsed post #1 will be restored within 30 minutes.

YOU'RE a paid shill for First Read? Wow. Who knew their standards were so low?

Maybe Spanky could get reimbursed for that new computer, too.

I predict carrot top's collapsed post #1 will be restored within 30 minutes.

Will you look at that?

Poor little Billy - try as he might, he can't keep a good woman down!

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

apologize for some pranks a person did in high school, really important stuff here; let us not look into a economy in a depression, ongoing wars, a Treasury that is broke, people drowning in debt, no jobs being created that mean anything, a government on a spending spree, a infrastructure on the verge of collapse, transfer of a nations wealth overseas, so a nation can import oil, when we are a nation floating on a sea of oil; but we must focus on important things , like what a person did in high school, wow.

VT: "Compare that to a highschooler's mean, potentially homophobic prank...Hypocritical much?"

FYI: 2 wrongs NEVER = 1 right!

Get it?

There are many things Obama did in his youth that he is not proud of. Too bad the general public will never hear about it because the main stream media continues to protect Obama.

I think the story really is about how Romney can't remember holding someone down and cutting their hair. Either:

A. He is lying.

B. He did so many incredibly intensive things that he really can't remember all of them.

C. His memory is not strong enough to enable him to be President.

Did I miss anything? Someday a Conservative will be put forth that I can vote for.

As a liberal Dem I am voting for Obama, period. However, at first glance at the headline, I was thinking "Oh, boy, what stupid things are they going to bring up from high school." Not the case, though, two of the things really stand out. I myself did lots of things I regret, including being one of the "cool kids" who bullied others, but this stuff is over the top, and at some point you have to admit it shows a real character flaw that cannot be overcome. Holding a kid down and cutting his hair off?!?! Walking a blind old man into a door?!?! I was no saint, but those are done right evil. Add to that he went on to be a man who prided him self on taking over and destroying companies, and that his only purpose for wanting to be President is simply to show he can "win" the election and you really start to see who Willard really is. He is your typical grade A alpha male a$$hole! He will step on whoever he needs to, to make himself feel worthy and powerful.

It is true that teenagers -- and many twenty-somethings -- still have some loose connections going in their brains. I know I would not want people to look at things I did in high school and college and assume that defines who I am today.

On the other hand, I agree that our youthful indiscretions say something about our characters. Drinking, drug use and other risky behaviors are fairly typical for teenage boys. Bullying not so much. What disturbs me is not your typical teenage attempts to get around the rules but the harassment of a fellow student for not conforming.

That is at the base of this issue -- the need to conform. It could explain his etch-a-sketch positions on important issues. Like that private school, the right wing of the Republican Party has its expectations. Romney has even distanced himself from his successes if the Republican Party does not approve of them. He will sing their song and dance their dance.

Moreover, it suggests to us what his attitude might be toward those of us who do not conform -- that is another, possibly even more important aspect of this issue. It is more of 'my way or the highway.' Like so many Republicans today, Romney is all about 'the will of the majority' (no matter how slim a majority it may be) with little or no concern for the 'minority.'

Not fair [or nice] busting people on grammar.

Oh, pish. Tell you what. Why don't you talk to your buddy JoAnna about projecting her own anger on others and constantly misrepresenting what people say in order to make a bogus point.

And then we'll talk.

So tell us AM, how is the dem mood in Wisc.? To my casually observing eyes Tuesday did not appear to go too well.

Depends on how you look at it, Spanky. And the way I look at it is that if people want to keep voting against their own self-interest, then there's nothing anyone can do about that.

My question for you is what you think about that guy in Chippewa Falls who tried to keep his estranged wife from voting by actually blocking her car, and then her brother calling HER crazy.

What kind of people do you hang around with, Spanky?

It goes a lot deeper than playful grammar bashing with your side.

Spanky's new computer --

So you all did see the job numbers and the trade deficit today?

You mean THESE job numbers?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/us-stock-futures-rise-before-unemployment-claims-report-cisco-jolts-tech-sector/2012/05/10/gIQAeKdNFU_story.html

Before Thursday, the Dow had fallen for six days in a row, its longest losing streak since August. Investors were encouraged by the Labor Department’s report that applications for unemployment benefits dropped 1,000 to 367,000 in the week ending May 5. The four-week average, which economists watch more closely, fell 5,250 to 379,000. When that figure remains consistently below 375,000, it suggests that job growth is strong enough to lower the unemployment rate.

The numbers could dispel nascent fears that that strongest yearly start for hiring since the recession ended 2009 was sputtering.

Doesn't sound all that bad to me, although the trade deficit news is disturbing. But it does show that people are buying again, and export numbers were also higher than expected. So, I guess we'll see.

Good old Mitt likes to hold other kids down and humiliate them, strap dogs to the roof of his car for transcontinental road trips, and is a top donor and member of a religious cult that hates minorities and gays.

Yeah, this is the guy we want representing America to the world. He's more suited to play the next super-villain in a James Bond film.

The fact that he says he doesn't remember the specific incedent either means he's a psychopath who can easily blow off assault and battery, or he assaulted people so much that he can't remember any individual attack, or he's just plain lying.

True, this happened in his youth, but assault and battery is not a youthful indiscretion.

Hopeful American, Obama IS a Christian. I am a Christian and I believe in gay marriage. However, Muslims, in general, do not believe in gay marriage so you just disproved your own argument. Furthermore, I seem to remember reading somewhere, "Do not judge or you too will be judged." I can't remember who said that.... hmmmm, Oh yea, Jesus, whom you fundaMENTAList PRETEND to worship and follow. What a joke. Fiesty Redhead, KEEP POSTING YOU ARE AWESOME!!!!! Romney is trying to dismiss bullying, assault, and intimidation with "some silly pranks as a youth." It isn't going to work. The American people aren't going to let him get away with it. You Repugs are just mad because you lost 4 years ago, and Willard is the best you can come up with now. Well, you are going to lose again, and the both the House and Senate will be back in Democratic hands, where they belong. You Repugs, Cons, and Tea Baggers need to accept the fact that you are all losers, and will always be losers, and get over it.

So this is what liberals do when they can't run on their own record? They go back to prep school to dig up dirt on the opponent?! Please people, tell me this is NOT going to be the tale of the next few months of campaigning. I bet there are a LOT of Obama stories out there more incriminating than this, but they all seem to be pretty well shielded.

I would hope that most Americans could care LESS what Mitt Romney (or Barack Obama) did when they were 17 years old. I know that I am very different at 51 than I was back then. This is definitely the mark of desperation from the same media the refused to do any vetting of "the one".

Hopeful American

@Fiesty:

Obama is not a Christian! Christians DO NOT believe in gay marriage. Obama is a Muslim.

So Muslims support gay marriage?

LOL You could have fooled me!

...

so Romney is the typical Repugnant Party - rich and a bully, just like Wall Street...

Obama/Biden 2012

Stonedog:

His support of gay marriage is for political reasons. He has flip-flopped so many times on this issue - who knows (better yet, who cares?!)

So yes, he can clearly be a Muslim.

Funny how Red cant believe Romney may have cut some kids hair in high school. And it is relevant in her eyes to Romney's Character some 40 plus years later, but I am sure she is fine with young Barrack Obama's illegal drug abuse.

Hypocrite.

Let the smears begin.

I don't care about Obama's drug use 30 years ago and I don't care what Romney did in high school. I also don't care if either one of them is a complete a#$. What I care about is, can they be the kind of president I want?

Big deal.

So what Romney assaulted a gay student and humiliated him by holding him down and cutting his hair while the student cried and begged him not to?

It's not like Romney strapped the family dog to the roof of his car for 12 hours.

(what a creep this Romney fellow is, huh?)

Too bad he's never taken the scissors to Donald Trump.

Loved that! :)

Willard's Barber Shop? I wouldn't trust him with scissors.

wiser8377 - please post the link to your "article" since it is a total lie. President Obama was never admitted to college - either Columbia or Harvard because of affirmative action. But, if you knew anything about either school you would know that. He had very good grades and did well in both schools - making Harvard Law Review is not something affirmative action has anything to do with.

If you want to talk about people with small minds, no temperament and absolutely no intellect you speak about the entire slate of GOP candidates - with the possible exception of Jon Huntsman, who the GOP immediately got rid of. He was too smart for the party.

Better luck next time.

In just a few short weeks I have learned all that I care to learn about Mutt Romney.

He is mean, as demonstrated by his refusal to eat a cookie that someone took great care in providing to him because "it looks like the cookies came from the gas station down the street".

And he is a liar.

That is all I care to know about him.

Fiesty, Fiesty, Fiesty!!!!

If all of us have to start apologizing for what we did to each other last week, much less as mindless teens, we won't have time for anyting else!! I was a teen once. Sometimes nice, sometimes mean, but always a teenager with nothing much to lose in the moment!!

I am fully aware of how you feel about the guy, but this is a stretch for someone smarter than that!!!

No I am not running for office, but if I was I would just say something like, "kma, it was 30 years ago, give me a break!!"

I don't doubt the accusations one bit. He's always come across as someone who has no clue how the Middle Class lives and doesn't give a damn. He's after power, plain and simple. In fact, I consider most conservatives today to follow the Straussian/Rand neoconservative philosophies that teach that the only noble goal in life is self enrichment by any means necessary.

Ron Suskind, quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush (later attributed to Karl Rove):

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

F Redhead

MSNBC's favorite little paid troll !

Obubba's drug use is probably why he makes such wonderful decisions while he's in the process of bankrupting our nation !

Lol...watching all you righties trying to spin this is damn funny I must say.

Socialist...as I recall, Obama talked about his drug abuse as a teen & college student very openly and in his books! So 'who' is 'spinning' what?

Hey....there's some really hot news coming out...has to do with Mitt Romney running down the hall with a pencil in his hand when he was 7 years old !!! Hey Mitt...slow down, will ya...you could poke your eye out with that thing !!!

Yeah...need to "spin this" !!! What a joke...our country is a mess, we're sixteen trillion in debt, and there are more than a million fewer working Americans (ie: taxpayers) than 3 years ago. So let's start making mountains out of teenage molehills to try to force focus on Mr. Romney rather than on our underperforming but ceaselessly whining president.

VT...

Correct...many do reside on one-way streets.

It's not as if the only stupid thing Willard "Mitt" Romney ever said or did was in high school....

'The TARP program... was nevertheless necessary to keep banks from collapsing in a cascade of failures.' ^[1]

'When government is... bailing out banks... we have every good reason to be alarmed.' ^[2]

'I like health care mandates. The mandates work.' ^[1]

'I think health care mandates are unconstitutional on the 10th Amendment front.' ^[2]

'I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose.' ^[1]

'I never really called myself pro-choice.' ^[2]

'I believe the tax on capital gains should be zero.' ^[1]

'Capital gains taxes are a tax cut for fat cats.' ^[2]

'Roe v. Wade has gone too far.' ^[1]

'I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it.' ^[2]

'I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.' ^[1]

'Ronald Reagan is... my hero.' ^[2]

'When I first heard of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy, I thought it sounded awfully silly.' ^[1]

''Don't Ask, Don't Tell has worked well.' ^[2]

'If Massachusetts succeeds in implementing health care, then that will be a model for the nation.' ^[1]

'What works in one state may not be the answer for another.' ^[2]

'In Massachusetts...the costs of health care will be reduced.' ^[1]

'We were unable to deal with... health care costs in Massachusetts.' ^[2]

'I've been a hunter pretty much all my life.' ^[1]

'Any description of my being a hunter is an overstatement of capability.' ^[2]

'I'm going to take burdens off the back of the auto industry.' ^[1]

'Detroit needs a turnaround, not a check.' ^[2]

'I would like to have campaign spending limits.' ^[1]

'The American people should be free to advocate for their candidates and their positions without limitations.' ^[2]

'I supported the assault weapon ban.' ^[1]

'I don't support any gun control legislation.' ^[2]

'Based on the numbers of American Muslims... I cannot see that a cabinet position would be justified.' ^[1]

'A person should not be elected because of his faith nor should he be rejected because of his faith.' ^[2]

'I'm not in favor of privatizing Social Security or making cuts.' ^[1]

'Social Security's the easiest to privatize and that's because you can give people a personal account.' ^[2]

'I don't line up with the NRA.' ^[1]

'I'm a member of the [NRA].' ^[2]

'The all-Democrat stimulus that was passed in early 2009 will accelerate the timing of the start of the recovery...' ^[1]

'The all-Democrat stimulus passed in early 2009 has been a failure.' ^[2]

'I saw my father march with Martin Luther King.' ^[1]

'I did not see it with my own eyes.' ^[2]

'It does take a village to raise a child.' ^[1]

'It takes a family to raise a child.' ^[2]

'I'm a strong believer in stating your position and not wavering.' ^[1]

'I changed my position.' ^[2]

Hopeful American: Unfortunately for you, Muslims don't believe in gay marriage either....in fact, they kill people who are gay. President Obama is a Christian....too bad you aren't. Just my opinion....

wiser...a nice though transparent attempt to change the subject....typical repugnican tactics...when an issue comes up, especially if it goes to your character, attack,attack,attack. The knowledge about Romney just keeps getting more and more disturbing.

Hopeful American

Who cares?! The libs like Fiesty will grasp at any bullsh** they can come up with. What person, at some point in their life, didn't offend or hurt the feelings of someone else? EVERYONE has done it!

Get over it and get on with life! So someone makes fun of your haircut. It probably was a stupid looking haircut.

This wasn't just a haircut. It was assault and without a rich,powerful daddy to get him off a la Boy George Bush, it would be a criminal assault- no little thing. I too did and said things in school I later regretted but assault wasn't one of them.Assault isn't just a prank. A black kid who goes to school in my city would most certainly be arrested and prosecuted for doing this. But Mitt just says "I'm sorry" a few decades later. And even then can't own up to it.

I must confess to doing a whole bunch of incredibly stupid teenage stuff.....I truly think that is part of the maturing process. I also remember growing up before the world of politically correct where every neighborhood and schoolyard had a bully, and we all had to learn how to deal with them.....I can remember lots of mean stuff being done to me and to others. You were too fat, too tall, to ugly, to stupid....take your pick. We all got picked on, and we all took a turn picking on somebody that we felt was weaker, and probably because we were feeling pretty insecure about ourselves. Way back in the day, when there were actually winners and losers, there were also kids who were never picked to play kickball or soccer. I can also remember that giving a bully a taste of their own brand of medicine (sometimes it took several of us working together) seemed to eliminate the bullying behaviors. Never went to court, and never went to the police, and as far as us teens were concerned, most of it never went before Mom and Dad and our teachers, if we could help it. And does anyone else remember the days when if you got caught by the teacher or principal, pleading for any penalty they cared to dish out as long as they didn't call your parents, because you were going to get trounced twice as badly if the folks got wind of what you were up to-once for doing something wrong and then probably again for embarrassing your parents in front of the school authority figures.... And let us look at the time frame in question.....not only high school, but the late 70's and early 80's.....for those guys who weren't conforming to the norm of the preppy haircut, those who were still doing the hair metal thing, it was probably the most effective way to get back at somebody. You can call Romney a spoiled rotten prig who thinks that because you are rich, you can do whatever you want, but you must understand the school he went to as well.....they are all spoiled rotten rich kids, and probably spoiling for a fight for supremacy within the school culture.....This was not a case of rich boy goes after poor underpriveleged minority student with intent to harm (as the story tries to imply) but a rich kid going after a rich kid and this long after the fact, not remembering the reasons for the fight in the first place....Also not strange, try asking your teenager why they don't talk with the kid that they went to grade school with and see what kind of answer you get, and that is alot shorter time frame.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, ILRestored

You know I don't care if this happened years ago or only yesterday.

The fact of the matter is Willard is a best a bully, and worst a homophobe!

What is interesting is Willard is NOT denying it, he's playing his selective amnesia card instead!

I am certain your victim hasn't forgotten about it!

"I'm quite a different guy now."

No YOU'RE not - you are still a pathological serial liar who apparently has a mean streak running deep through your veins!

Fiesty,

SeekingSanity,

and others who attack people on posts.

How can you condemn something that Mitt Romney did back in high school?

You attack people each and everyday.

You want to call him a bully? What he did was wrong. You know what I did some pretty stupid things when i was in junior high myself. I ended up hanging out with one of the guys that I used to give crap to on a daily bases. I apologized and shook his hand.

So are you two going to change your ways?

The truth is most if not all of us have done something that we should not have.

We have to judge people by who they are today, not what they did yesterday.

WHY oh why has no one even commented on the very WORST part of this story ????

Romney used the word HIJINKS - who , other than, an out of touch prig , would use such a word ?

Says a ton about the guy.

KMC....

You insult Romney's "hijinks" by using the word "prig" ???

Does that say 'a ton about' you ???

Mitt doesn't have to apologize for being a dump Flip Flopper because we already know that, Mitt Romney is a little Wacko with a extreme political agenda for his mega Rich buddies !

KMC, I second that, What a "Priggish" the Mitt Flip Flopper is !!!

MSNBC is a LIBERAL MSM News source...

any conservative here knows they are NOT going to change one single mind with their perspective .

So it is safe to assume that the ones who are here are RINOs or not conservative OR are basically contentious, argumentative & confrontational people who have no other outlet or shooting gallery to call home .

To frequent a place where you have nothing in common with the rest or are not wanted is a curious way to spend your time, efforts & life..... it can only be the specter of engagement with your opposition that draws & keeps you here .

Either that or you find "virtual" fighting so much more appealing than actual confrontation, which happens to be the mark of a chicken-hawk .

But hey, we love having you here, it's what differentiates R's from D's , you people fight amongst your selves, the D's have better fish to fry .

The left is getting pretty desperate and they're grasping for straws now.

Hey Dopey!

Try less fluff & more substance next time hon

It would make your ramblings more enjoyable to read! ;o)

MkeMike --

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Ought to be required reading for all registered voters.

Oh ignoring me today are you MS. Fiesty!!!!

You are so full of crap today, but I still love you anyway!! ; )

Hey, BTW, nothing wrong with missionary and socks!! Get more traction!!

Mitt Flip Flopper Romney being half Mexican probably thought the kid was Davey Crockett's son !

With the bullying epidemic going on in this country today, I find it unfathomable you right wingers are condoning & ignoring Willard's actions...

Our children are committing suicide left & right after being subjected to this kind of behavior!

Like I said in my comment #1 - I don't care when it happened it shows a serious character flaw on Willard's behalf!

Notice Willard is not DENYING it!

Oh ignoring me today are you MS. Fiesty!!!!

Tex,

You should know by now - I would NEVER ignore you! ;o)

Just busy trying to catch up! lol

Hey Look Feisty's first. No way, who would've thunk it.

You're just a bitter old fake dead head. By you're reasoning, since no one can improve as time goes on, barack is the same old American valued hating, marxist loving, domestic terrorist loving Kenyan huh? Okay, I'll buy that. Oh I'll bet your past is full of so many asinine moments you could right a book baby. I'm sure there's drunk naked pictures of you in someones shoe box somewhere, with a beer bong hanging out of your mouth a couple of lines striped up on your belly and guys painting pictures of genitalia on your face. But you're probably nothing like that now right? Right? Funny how you already posted this stuff on another feed even though it was irrelevant to the story. But now Holy Shi$ you're actually in a relevant story. Hell's temperature must be dropping.

By your reasoning Clinton is just a womanizing man-whore who is exactly how he was way back when (might be a bad example). Jane Fonda is still a traitor for her stunt in Vietnam even though she said it was the most stupid thing she'd ever done, and John Kerry still hates his fellow nam vets. Oh Feisty, how sorry I am that people have to live with the idiot gene that you're infected with. Hey, why don't you give the world an example (not 47 years ago) of how he's a bully today.

Though a few bullies grow up and grow out of it, the general rule is "once a douche, always a douche." Bullies also tend to turn into cowards and whiners in the instant that someone confronts them with their behavior, or their posse of followers is no longer there to massage their egos.

But we already knew that the current load of Republicans is the biggest collection of crybaby drama queens this side of a JV cheerleading club.

So Mitt's the lead mean girl? No surprises there. Do we want to see Prom Queen Mitt on the world stage? No, not at all.

I took the time and read the WP article. A few things appeared to stand out: many of the "pranks" involved consisted of mean spirited attacks on weaker people who could not respond in kind. While not outwardly apparent to those who were his friends, Romney's status as the son of the governor was, without a doubt, very much felt by those who were the subject of his attacks.

I would bet both his fellow students and the nearly blind teacher he bullied felt that any report against the governor's son would not be respected and would likely get the reporter into trouble. For that reason, those types of reports don't happen. Much like a complaint against the quarterback at the school which has won the state championship for the last 5 years.

The report is the first we have about Romney's formative years. The same kind of reporting was done about Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and John McCain. It is part of the vetting process. Its how we learned that Barack Obama went to a muslim school when he was in a muslim dominated country.

What we did find out about Barack Obama is that he was not a bully who picked on poor students and blind teachers. Kind of fits the Mitt Romney of today, still intent on hurting the poor, blind and gay US Citizens.

It's so revealing that the Republican party nominate this Repugnant Bully for President - it says sth about the Republican party.

Feisty nobody's condoning anything but nice try. We're saying it was 47 years ago and if every person were damned like you want them to be after 47 years you'd probably be leading the pack to hell. Knock it off your cheerleading is redundant.

Hey Rightwingwacko, are you talking about that infected gene in your brain ?

A little comparison:

Obama's youthful drug experimentation: addressed by him in his book.

Romney's youthful bullying: says he doesn't remember it, and he certainly wasn't the one who brought it to our attention.

Which one is more trustworthy?

Which one knows himself better?

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

When you're choosing the leader of the free world, CHARACTER COUNTS!

Hey Rightwingwacko, are you talking about that infected gene in your brain

Sounds more like an untreated case of syphilis...

Ignore the little whacker - I do!

The mental midget follows me around like a love struck starry, eyed puppy begging for my attention.

Too bad the rookie is no where near being 'feisty' worthy! ;o)

What ridiculous, juvenile, tattle-tale kind of journalism this is! Where were all these "journalists" when Obama was sexually harrassing men in COLLEGE, doing cocaine as an ADULT? Consorting with an unapologetic subversive who tried to blow up government buildings? Taking favors from corrupt Chicago politicians...how many are in prision now?

It is truly a pathetic act of desperation to dig back some 50 years about a pubescent prank, and pretend you're shocked, just shocked. Everyone casting the first stone it seems.

So what if Romney went to a expensive, private school...what's the name of that school the Obama girls attend? Does that make them spoiled, privileged, rich brats too? I mean, if it describes one then it describes all. But, if you're going to crucify one kid for the school he attended....years ago, then you'll just have to crucify every other kid who did and is. Pretty lame, isn't it?

And don't tell me not one of you ever did a dumb thing in your teens. Or did a mean thing, or went along with the gang. If you never did, you weren't normal. 99.9% of you could probably be called hypocrites.

Surprise surprise Mitt was a bully. I'd rather hear about what Mr. Corporate Raider did to the corporations he took over and where those jobs went.

Rightwingnutwacko walks around with holes in his shoes and he supports the mega Rich, l just don't get it !

Mitt's foreign policy is dump American jobs for China !!!

F----- Redhead

" our children are committing suicide right and left"

Why not teach your kids to grow a backbone and fight like heck !

Nothing cures a bullie quicker than a real good butt whipping !

Even if a bully whips you, sting him bad, make him hurt, he will think long and hard before bullying you again.

Look at all of these Knuckle Dragging Reich Wing Fascists defend Willard behavior, These are the same type of people that would Chant Hang Obama from a tree if this story was about President Obama. Hypocrites everyone of you Reich Wingers

Did ANY of you Obama zombies ever read Obama's books. Since he has had all his records sealed most of what we know come from what he wrote or his ghost writer wrote.

OBAMA IS A BULLY. Yes he is. Obama describes in his book about his bullying people. He describes being mean and hateful to a girl named Coretta. Obama eats dog. Obama went to a madras where Muslim religion is the main subject. Obama is a pot head and cocaine snorter. These are not some fiction story by some liberal Democrats telling a story about what may or may not have happened 50 years ago. Conveniently the so called victim is dead.

OBAMA IS A BULLY, POT HEAD, MUSLIM, WITH HOMOSEXUAL TENDENCIES. (check out his relations with Larry Bland)

So all you Soros Media Matters trolls suck it up and let your excuses begin to explain why Obama being a bully is good.

Uncle Sam

Pull down your white hood your face is showing

The Klan is alive and you can tell who is a member by what they write

Hey UncleSam, That story was in the Tabloid, you are drawing flies !

Hey UncleScam, I'm going with our President, Mr. Obama, The GOP TeaNut Baggers did enough damage to this Country !

Feisty, obviously you don't ignore me, quit fooling yourself. Just keep telling yourself you're superior...proves my point every time. Although douchebaggery? yeah you've got me there. Oh and yeah Feisty it is syphilis. I've been meaning to tell you about that because apparently you're carrying it and have been infecting everyone you're "meeting". I guess it's a perfect example of why one shouldn't drink to oblivion, they could end up waking up next to the likes of you and then spending some time with a few penicillin shots. Oh well, I live and learn.

You hope and pray that you could come up with something, anything that could combat what I say. Anything at all and then it strikes you; "mental midget! yeah that's what I'll call him...that'll show him it will". Pathetic as usual Feisty but really, really glad to see I'm still getting your goat...or uh, sheep as it were.

Patriotic, ohhhh patriotic. Finding any medication to help you with that bold font issue you're having? You know if you're having problems with your keyboard you can get them for about $10, in case you're wondering. You guys both think you can actually compete or that your absolute ignorance is somehow going to silence me? You better see your dope dealer and ask for a refund because the shi$ he's selling you is toxic. Your one line non-points are brilliant as usual and wow do you come off like a ding-bat.

You guys are becoming like a tourist attraction for school kids. I can just walk over whenever I want, poke you with a stick and say "watch kids, watch and listen to the amazing babbling wildebeests." Then sure enough, off you go into illogical, self flattering, ignorant tirades all while looking in a mirror and saying "who's the hottest? I'm the hottest"".

I really am starting to love you guys, you're so cute yet so ugly at the same time. Anyway, enjoy yourselves as you attempt to continue to ignore me dead-head and Patri-neurotic. Hey I can play that game too. Kinda like the song; anything you can do, I can do better. See you the next time you ignore me dead-head.

Rightwing

I think you might go and see a Doctor, Very Temper-mental because someone is ignoring you LOLOLOLOL. I got a clue for you the only one that cares about you is your mom and dad and they are starting to have doubts, also the world doesnt revolve around you, seek help quickly

UNCLE SAM

I'm jumping waaayyyy down in the sewer where feisty and pasty-neurotic live for this one but can't help it, gotta go where I'm pulled.

Can you believe Patri-neurotic is going with barack? Who would've every thought. I just don't believe it, never saw that coming. What an idiot to proclaim something like that. If she's trying to sway people she's definitely doing it but not in the direction she'd like. If someone like her is for barack most intelligent people will most likely run the other way. Oh yeah, pasty-neurotic is really into tea-bagging by proof in dozens of her posts. I'll bet she'd let you try for a dollar....just in case you're curious.

sez me; shove your race card up your ass you race baiting scum bag piece of dog crap. Did I make myself clear or should I reiterate? You're the biggest kind of candy azz on here. You throw out those little ignorant statements like so many of you race baiting azz-holes like to do. Why? Because the brain power you can muster up only allows that type of crap. You couldn't come up with factual or logical information if you tried. sez who? sez me the wacko you douchebag.

LOLOLOLOLOLO

The Animals are restless in the zoo tonight, and Douchebag would be your wifes name for 500 Alex

Sez:

Ummm, okay you're right...noooo, you're wrong race baiter. Don't think I will, and is that the kind of language you used in school when you were trying to bully other kids around? Sounds like the same kind of language that's used. I used to love kicking the crap out of people who bullied other kids....just loved it. So I think you fit that mold perfectly. If you want the crap kicked out of you verbally I'll gladly oblige. You probably shouldn't go there though, but hey bring it if you'd like race baiter.

RightwingNutWacker, did you step on a nail on your way from Fox ! What's up with the holes in your shoes. Do something useful with your life like cleaning your room and toys !

Rightwing

Dont take this personally but I am going to have to ignore you, Now before you go and do something irrational there is a crisis line you can call for help.

P.S. you couldn't whip me if you ate 3 cans of spinach and had god on your side. just sayin : )

Mitt Romney couldn't polish President Obama's shoes, That's something you can take to the Bank !!!

It's no surprise that the right wingers are in support of Romney's childish bullying. Good job! Showing everybody just what the content of their character is. Romney the bully doesn't stand a chance.

sez, The NutWacker doesn't eat spinach, dog food is his thing !

The GOP TeaBag supporters are so desperate, anything will work, even a Flip Flopper Phony Rich Bully !

Romney needs not apologize for one thing he has ever done and he needs to grow the testicles to just say so what?

He was more accomplished by 20 than Obama will ever be.

To EVERYONE on here, isn't calling people names considered bullying? Anyone want to apologize to anyone else?

It's not surprise that right wingers are defending Romney for assaulting a blind teacher as well. How low can the GOP go?

Now, to be fair,(and that is All the MSM wants to do I am sure), let us examine the vetting the MSM has done into the backgrounds of Mr. Obama as compared to that of Mr. Romney,..................Oh,.......that's right, there was no vetting of Mr. Obama by the MSM,(strange, I wonder why?), oh well, fortunately Mr. Obama wrote several books about,............wait for it now,...........Himself! So perhaps from those writings the noble MSM can ask the questions that Obama did not answer, or that the main stream media failed to ask, such as; who was his communist mentor, from the streets of Hawaii that he ran the streets with, using and selling,(?),drugs, the woman he said he abused,(bullied), in the book, Was Obama really an alcoholic then and is he one now? Just a few questions,just to be fair.

"Your flip Flopping like Mitt" !

VT Bob; sorry man, not when they're race baiters they don't deserve civility.

Sez; good please ignore me you race baiting dirt bag. Because there's nothing better that a wanna be bully getting cut down to size. You just keep going and I'll just keep cutting...race baiter.

Patri-neurotic: the nonsense you spew is getting even worse. I love the fact that I've got your panties in such a tight bunch that you need forceps to find them. You are having such a good time with yourself as you shout everything like the insane little dishrag you are. Keep shouting toward the sky sweetie. I can picture you feverishly typing your one bold line, hair all frazzled and twitching like a toad. Then slamming the post button while gleefully full of yourself and the awesomeness that you think you have. Then two seconds later some other pea-brained statement jumps into your empty skull and you quickly start typing again and the cycle continues.

I've had you figured out from the first time I saw your redundant one line bold ignorant statements. You are simple in the most elementary form. But you on the other hand...nice try, you just keep trying to figure me out. It's like an infatuation. Am I mystery man to you? Do I get your dander up so much that you fantasize about who I am or what I'm about? I've become an obsession to you. Do you lie awake in cold sweats damning me for smoking you on these posts? Yes you dooooo.

You have such a fetish with defending rusty-dead-head...are you guys cube mates or bunk mates? It's obviously one or the other. You are obvious and your posts are just one line news feeds that you feel saying over and over and over in bold will somehow win support. Wake up little floozie.

This game is getting fun, you just keep trying to figure me out and keep making yourself look like a shouting idiot. Hey isn't it about time you post a one liner saying "Romney is a flip flopping loser" or something deep and brilliant like that? The stones said it best..."under my thumb" neurotic, "under my thumb"

@Fiesty (and Beverly):

Our children are committing suicide left & right after being subjected to this kind of behavior!

Like I said in my comment #1 - I don't care when it happened it shows a serious character flaw on Willard's behalf!

Notice Willard is not DENYING it!

So you're okay with the bullying that Obama admits to doing?? You're okay with him shoving a young girl? Do you care what his bullying did to others? Or did you not read the book he wrote about his sperm donor daddy? Cutting hair is bad, bad, bad! But shoving a young girl is okay?!

You are pathetic hypocrites! Just exactly how much does Odumbo pay you Chicago gals to sit around on your a**es all day posting your redundant bs?

Anybody that can't see this was nothing more than lame attempt at a smear attack is blind as a bat. You don't write a 11 page article a day after the potus endorses homosexuals about your opponent "bullying" someone over 40 years ago. This will backfire just like all the other lame attacks, dog, mommy wars, Mormon...etc.

Anybody that has read Obamas book knows he admits, in his own words, of "being a doper, staying in a daze, heavy drinking, hanging out with dropouts looking for a fight, womanizing" etc. Pretty pathetic and desperate for the dims to try this smear attack.

Feisty and the rest of the hate filled folks here - What would you do if you found out you had made a mistake? What would you do if you found out a lie was being told about you and no one would believe it was not true? What would you do if the same folks told lie after lie and were never held accountable?

Well, guess what? It's happening here. The family of the man in this story has gone on record stating that the story is "factually inaccurate" and they are dismayed that the young man in question, who is dead by the way, is being exploited "for purely political reasons". Further, it has been found out that the Washington Post used a single source for this story, and the source was NOT in the area when it took place. The source had just heard of the story and passed it on to the Post.

I know that you will never believe this, since it has been reported by sources you disdain, but it is still the truth. Even after CBS was caught forging documents for a story, you still believed their story. Even after NBC was caught doctoring a 911 tape to fit their story, you still believed NBC. Why? Because they fit your political slant. Well, look behind the curtain, Dorothy. The truth is out there if you look.

Wait, wait! Boy do I know some stuff about Romney.

I know for a fact, a
fact I tell you, that Mitt Romney, the likely Presidential candidate in
November, actually stuck his chewing gum on the bottom of his desk in the 8th
grade! Gasp!

And, And (breathless) he was seen scratching "Becky &
Me" on a column in the front of his high school with a jack knife!

Hey NutWac, SoRrY iF i DoN't MeEt Up To YoUr ExPeCtAtIoNs WiTh My PoSt ! Ps - CaN i BuY yOu OnE fOr ThE RoAd ?

Isn't it interesting how Feisty posted this story yesterday in an unrelated story (shocking I know) basically before any of the television news media even mentioned it? Yeah, sure it was out on the web a little...very little? Bought, paid for, but definitely not worth their money.

Patri-neurotic

You should really stop. If you can't make an argument for or against something, which is very clearly your weak point (other than your overall IQ). You just end up embarrassing yourself. It's cool, embarrass yourself all you want but you'll obviously never actually have enough to be a challenge to me or anyone with any brain wave activity at all. I'm not sure I've seen anyone on the Vine quite as ineffective as you are with your gibberish. The third grade bell is ringing...get to class.

Hey joe1022joe, #1.152 Now l know how Romney gay hater got his Education, off bazooka bubble gum wrappers ! Now hes Flip Flopping and chewing Guns & Knifes in School, What a loser Mitt was. Glad MittNut will lose for his insanity.

Hey WacNut, Red is hot and you are not ! PS - Still walking around with holes in your Shoes ?

What a bunch of insulting, angry, foul-mouthed Democrats we have here...you know...the Democrats who are so holier-than-thou and proclaim themselves to be so much more humane and tolerant than their evil political foes across the aisle.

If the posts on this site are any indication...I'd say the most common trait is abject hatred for any who might simply disagree with their thoughts and preferences.

Happy people don't seethe so much.

Patri-neurotic

That was amazing! Did you come up with that all by yourself or did you ask your 3rd grade classmates for help? My guess is you couldn't even come up with that yourself...it's still too elevated for your education level. Keep posting though, please, it's the easiest game I've ever played. Wasn't it rusty dead head who said "quit voting for yourself, it's embarrassing".

Brilliantly stated neurotic...simply brilliant.

Going back to one's high school years in an attempt to discover something that could be used against someone exposes those doing this rather than the subject of the search.

This indicates more than a little desperation on the part of the left to find something, anything they could leverage as something negative. Even when they publish something they think they've found, it gets exposed as something that apparently never happened.

I'm certain this little fact will be completely lost on the ideologically crippled, and judging from the many posts, just the publishing of anything negative about Romney, even lies, is sufficient for them.

Feisty #1.21 was right, Ignore the little Whacker at all cost, hey nutwac, are you "OK" ????????????????????????????????????????????????? !!!

Patri-neurotic.

You're not following her advice but please do if you'd like. Run and hide like you uninformed sheep love to do. Run and hide under your blankets. I think it's pretty clear that you're broken, I did a good job here. You were a bit off your rocker to start, your bold font and one line incoherent post were evidence of that. But I do believe I've gotten the best of you (which there really isn't a "best" of you), and you're officially in the mental fetal position practically drooling on yourself. "Neurotic" is a great fitting term for you. Multiple question marks, constant bold font, really really dumb and irrelevant questions? It's a perfect label!

So go right ahead and ignore me...at all costs. But guess what? I'm not going to be ignoring you and when I see you're one line propaganda statements, I'll combat them. Did you hear that? It's the recess bell and that means it's time to go to the nurses station for you medication little girl.

You've lost your mind neurotic and I'm glad to have facilitated the process.

Patriotic American...Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

WOOHOOO! Let the Willard Romney Official Apology Tour begin! I wonder if he giggled a little when he said "I'm afraid I've got to say I'm sorry..."

Romney should have just told the media to kiss his south end and to go talk to their little dope headed buddy, Obuba !

If he did, I would still vote for him. I wouldn't cry fowl. We need someone that will stand up and tell these Dems and Libtards where to stick it !

Stand up? He couldn't even stand up to the extreme right when they drove a valuable staff member to quit just because he was gay. How is he going to stand up to China or even North Korea?

One can draw a straight line from the young man who pinned down a terrified teenager and walked a blind man into a closed door, to the adult who put the family dog in a kennel and strapped it to the roof of the car, to the businessman who laid off hundreds of people, cancelled their health benefits, and paid himself millions while their company went bankrupt. And the line continues: the governor who slashed education and raised fees on the middle class, and the possible president who would use his power to cut taxes on his fellow millionaires while pushing for the gradual demise of traditional Medicare.

Then there is the aura of someone who acts as if the rules don't apply to him. The Post reported that the abused boy was ultimately expelled from Cranbrook—for smoking a cigarette. Really. The victim got expelled for smoking a cigarette, but Mitt faced no sanctions for maliciously victimizing a vulnerable student and a teacher. It's good to be a prince. Maybe that's why Romney felt entitled to take a $10 million bailout for Bain, but opposed President Obama's bailout of the auto industry. He thinks there's one set of rules for the privileged, and another for the rest of us.

Aggie, as a reg., Republican l think the one that is embarrassing himself is Rightwingwac. Hes making our party look foolish, have a nice day. #1.162 !

I'd have to agree with you there. There are embarrassments in every party. But Patriotic American has nothing but playground worthy "one liners".

This incident so many years ago was burned into the memories of those who came forward. But Romney, oddly, cannot remember what happened. What else is he lying about?

these things Mr. Romney did were not stupid.....they were MEAN...that is a character flaw.

Mr. Romney went on to build a company that also bullied and did mean things to people and then he campaigned against Rick Santorum with mean and bullying ads.........can't see that he would suddenly turn over a new leaf and change his core character for the next four years. I figure given more power, he doesn't need more money, he will take his character flaw to new heights...and the ones getting bullied then will be you and I and the rest of the 99%.

Mitt Romney as President.........what a scarey thought.

Clinical psychologists define the period of "adolescence" as the ages of 13 - 19. Of course this is a generality. We all know of young people who are prematurely quite responsible young adults, thoughtful and adult in their actions, belying their actual age.

If Mr. Romney had offered a forthright admission of his participation in the assault, and had acknowledged having deep regret for his actions, it would suggest he has matured as a person and has learned lessons from his mistakes; and that he possesses healthy, introspective and strong but compassionate core values.

Unfortunately Mr. Romney chose a different response and has taken a different course.

So... the guys who held down the kid are now complaining that Mitt was among them?

newdayDAWNING... your hypocracy makes me wonder about YOUR mental stability. Why would anyone want to view your comment and why do you assume your point of view should bear any weight? Let us ask your schoolmates about you and see how you stack up. I'de bet your house you did something worse that a haircut.

I'm torn on this one. Normally, I poo-poo what candidates did in their teens or even early 20s (30s, you should be an adult and screwing up big time then, is a completely different story). However, the story written here is a little more serious than "hijinks." This was an assault and battery.

You'd lose your bet. I never did anything remotely like this to anyone. And quit making excuses. Mittens is unsuitable for President.

Give me a break! I went to an all-boys college prep in the 70's and ALL freshmen were subject to "hazing." At our school that included "canning," where a group of upperclassmen shove you butt-first into a garbage can, or "hanging" where you are placed on your belt or belt loop onto a hook above a classroom door, just to name two. We considered it a right of passage and now liberals want to cry foul and call this "bullying?" Is the entire country now emasculated just because Obama came out for "states-rights" relating to gay marriage, the same exact position Romney holds, by the way?

Assault and Battery, but republicans like villian157, Get Over Yourself and Robme thinks its ok to do these kind of things to those that are different. Republican values got to love them.

To get over yourself............No, I won't give you a break. It's okay because he was a rich preppie? I don't think so. You guys think you're so special. You're not. Romney still thinks he is. He's not. I dated some of you guys. You're not good in bed, either.

You represent the very heart of what I vote agianst and you are one of the most anti-American person I have seen in years.

Okay...

GetOverYourself... and that makes it all okay?! Have you lost your mind? Assault and battery with vaguely homoerotic overtones is okay, because it was the 70s and and all boys school.

You're not good in bed, either.

LOL!

I would imagine the missionary position with their socks on & lights off would grow tiresome quickly! ;o)

Those that are different? You mean ALL freshmen! So if by "different" you mean those that are NOT sophomores, juniors, or seniors, then yeah, they hazed those that were "different." And mine was a Jesuit-run all-boys prep school so not exactly filled with a bunch of thugs. 98% of our graduates go on to college. Show me a public high school that even has a 98% graduation rate! I really cannot believe that anybody in their right mind is actually taking this serious. This ONLY shows how incredibly desperate the libs are and how worried they are about Obama's chances. If this is what you are left with then this election is going to be a landslide in Romney's favor.

villian, nice try deflecting from the subject of violence, Romney deciding NOW was a 'good time' to apologize, and making it personal towards someone else, showing that banality is the sum of your total existance.

Oh...wait...that isn't going to happen, is it?

Joey dear - do try to keep up!

It already happened but it was 4 years ago... guess what?

They didn't find anything! lol

I think that we all did things in our youth that we regret. I would definitely believe that this goes on at all boys schools because of sexual tension, gay attraction misguided, what ever. Kind of a non story. Hazing is very prevalent when there are no women around. Does anyone know what being a shellback is.

GOY, Romney does not hold that position. he has clearly stated that he would sign a federal law prohibiting same sex marriage.

Once a bully... Always a bully. Yea, he is sorry that he got caught. I am a registered Republican but never ever will I vote for Mitt Romney. Ask the boys whom he assulted if it was a prank or if it was assult.

get over yourself..............and god, I wish you would. Actually there are quite a few high schools with 98% graduation rates............and some of them are black! Woohoo. I bet that surprises YOU!

Name them? And what do you mean by "some of them are black?" Are YOU suggesting that it would be surprising that blacks were graduating from high school? That is an amazingly racist thing to say.

You're so fricking smart............look them up, preppie boy.

Get Over Yourself: "We considered it a right of passage"

Interesting Freudian slip there - the term is actually a "rite" of passage, not a "right" - though maybe you meant that intentionally?

So tell me, did you read the rest of the article in the link above? The really funny part about Romney intentionally getting a visually impaired teacher to walk into a closed door and then "giggling hysterically" about it? Is that just another "right"?

Funny how we've yet to hear from NoJoe NJ on this thread - earlier this week she was all outraged about President Obama not being able to remember the correct name of a magazine he saw one time in a waiting room when he was 9 years old - I was SURE she'd be among the first to condemn Romney for "not remembering" three separate incidents from his senior year in high school.....

Or, maybe not.....

Yeah, I thought so. Another made-up stat that you cannot prove. Kind of like Obama's pledge to create or "save" jobs. Since you cannot prove how many jobs were actually saved, if any, just claim they were and the idiot masses will believe it.

Sorry, did I miss the part where a) someone admitted to these "attacks" or b) evidence was shown?

But why should facts get in the way of this, huh?

He's a pos. your school years define who you are and will become as an adult. Some people do silly things, but attacking a gay man and cutting his hair off is an act of violence and a crime.

As we know, kids and tens that torture animals and kill them usually end up killing and torturing people in their adult years, kids that lay with small fires will grow up to become arsonists, and kids and young adults that attack gay men or women, are most likely to be the one to execute them as Hitler did back in his days of terrorism and horror.

This Robmee is also willing to take the food off the tables of the poor and give it to the 1%ers. He hasn't changed, he''s just a man that is never to be trusted.

Watch your backs, Robmee's knife knows no boundaries.

Mitt Romney and I were young at about the same time and I remember my failure to defend a girl who was being briefly mocked by my own friends one day. I didn't take part, but I didn't stand up for the other girl. And I've remembered it all these years as a shameful moral failure on my part.

So I'm thinking that unless someone's childhood was simply filled with cruel behavior, one would remember incidents such as this. To gloss it over as "pranks" (such a harmless word!) is to invalidate what others suffered. Had I been held down while a fellow student cut off my hair, it would have been an extremely traumatic experience. (They didn't stop at MOCKING his hair - they held him down and cut it off.) Clearly, Romney lacks the emotional mechanics of essential empathy.

In this instance they can be used interchangeably, that said, pointing our mis-spelled words or grammatical errors on a message board is the last refuge of those lacking intellectual capacity. It is debate 101 that when one has to resort to such tactics that they have lost the debate. It does prove, again, how desperate the left is to distract the voting public from Obama's hopeless record. A criminal in prison garnered 41% of the Democrats vote on Tuesday in a Democrat primary. Enough said.

Now you know why Willard became a Vulture Capitalist...just a bully on a much larger scale...or, would that be better phrased, Vampire Capitalist, since he and his partners sucked the life out of the companies that they took over. Now the school yard bully cum vulture capitalist thinks it is "his turn" to be President of the United States. I DON'T THNK SO-O-O-O-O!

This is kind of funny. Hmmm, let's pick the topic of the month, bullying and try and squeeze Romney into this. How about, let's focus on Obama demonizing the horrible hard working people who not are in his terrible 1% range, (like he is himself) Where is he tonight, that's right hanging out with liberal freak George Clooney and his other multi-millionaire pals raising $15 million in one night. Obama is truly in touch with those that voted for him and are worse off now than they were before. This is a great try for votes, but I don't think there will be quite enough for him. The gay marriage might garner him a few, good try.

And a good vulture capitalist is exactly what's needed in D.C. Brilliant people that can review, analyze, eliminate waste, consolidate for efficiency, and streamline programs. That's a horrible quality. There's more waste in government agencies and programs than anywhere else in this country. How about dong something about it?

Do you really want to posit, Get over yourself that the high school you went to, which apparently turned a blind eye toward student on student assault, is the ONLY school in the United States with a 98% graduation rate? Really?

I tell you what Feisty, there HAS to be a full moon out somewhere.

Stand you ground Willard! Stand your ground! Hate the gays and say it was selfdefense!

Oops. Not Florida...

Run, Willard! Run!

Old Sarge: Do just a little homework associated with Venture Capitalist that specialize in buying failed companies and breaking them apart, fixing them, saving pieces, discarding those that aren't profitable, etc...you won't sound so ignorant next time you post.

I'm surprised there is little mention of this:

(It’s worth noting that five former Cranbrook students spoke with the Washington Post about the incident; the paper says that they all have different political affiliations, but largely lean Democratic.)

So this hit piece on Romney's youth comes out hours after President Obama's announcement on gay marriage. It is a detailing of events from nearly 50 years ago supplied by a group that largely leans Democratic. The person providing the most damaging testimony (Buford) worked on President Obama's 2008 campaign. Sorry...but I don't see this moving the dial at all. People weren't swayed by actions of the President when he was young and they won't be swayed by this.

Feisty, so much hate, maybe you should take up knitting, or perhaps drink. If these boards consist of your life, like they seem they do, I really feel sorry for you.

to get over yourself.......also known as preppie boy. The race card is the one card you can't play on me. I voted for a black man, and I'm going to vote for him again. You didn't, and you won't.

If you will read my post, I said YOU would be surprised at some of the wonderful black high schools. I didn't say I was.

Old repug trick, try to turn things around. You might have been a preppie, but I went to one of the best public high schools in Wiscosin.......when Wisconsin had the reputation of being one of the best states for education in the country. Go away preppie boy. We don't want you, and we don't want Mittzy.

I didn't say my school had a 98% graduation rate, rather, I said 98% of its students went on to college. I then suggested you would be hard-pressed to find public schools with a graduation rate that high much less one that sends that many kids off to college. The graduation rate would actually be MUCH higher. But then facts, or what I actually wrote do not matter much to the libs posting on this site. True "hazing" never was bullying nor has it impacted the success of those who attended my school. And, generally, hazing is not done to pick on anyone, rather, it is done to tell incoming freshman who were once the "big-shot" in elementary school that they are just another student here. Everyone at a college prep is an academic high-achiever, a great athlete, or "special" in some other way. Hazing is meant to tell you that, here, you are just another student.

My gay son was repeatedly attacked in middle school because he was different. Once he got his black belt in karate he was able to defend himself. I remember well the kid who pulled a knife on my son his freshman year in high school and said he was going to "kill the f****t." My son broke his arm, his nose, and knocked him unconscious. My son was also suspended by the school for 5 days for "excessive" use of force. I guess he should have allowed the kid to stab him, first?

When you start calling hazing bullying then you diminish the real bullying that is going on in our schools and the real harm it does to children. If you want to compare prep-school hazing to what my son was put through in elementary and high school then your motivation really is entirely political. Don't pretend to care about bullying when it is all about getting your guy re-elected.

This is funny and I knew that all the ridiculoids would be out in full force here. Wake up people, this is not a big deal. And for those of you whining and crying about what he did over 2 decades ago, was it this big a deal when Clinton broke the law by smoking weed? Oh but thats right, that law isn't as important as this one. When this happened, was there even a law that had anything to do with Romney's actions? Cmon quit being so damn stupid! Republican'ts and Democraps have ruined our country.

Ah, Frank, you disappoint me. I thought better of you than that.

The story also says that each told the story independent of the other.

Two of them apologized to the man in question, and all were bothered by the viciousness of the attack.

Do you really want to excuse this level of assault by Romney because he is a Republican?

Why did he wait over 40 years and then national exposure before he apologizes?

So 98% went to college, but some did it without a high school education, really "Get over?"

Don't hand me this b.s. YOUR school ignored student on student assault.

You are proud of your school.

I don't need to know anything else about you.

In his all-boys school days, are they kidding? When was that? 50 years ago?

The desperation of Democrats has reached new levels... maybe tomorrow they'll find some "breaking news" that Mitt kept his mommy awake some nights as an infant.

Memphis Kelly

Obama claims he was a Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, he was a senior lecturer ON LEAVE and never taught a class! Why don't we hear the story on this?

The Chicago Sun Times wrote about it to let people know it was a professor.

Also, here is a reply from the University of Chicago Law School stating he was a professor.

The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as "Senior Lecturer."

From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media

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Being the compassionate, brilliant, individual he is President Obama saw needs the community and country needed so he turned down the full position.

I am so glad and proud my fellow Chicagoan did because it was that genuine dedication which has allowed him to lead this country in a forward direction unlike the republicans and Romney who wish to go back in history.

Or President Obama could have chosen to chase ambulances like Spanky.

RC - "Why did he wait over 40 years and then national exposure before he apologizes?"

A. What makes you think he never apologized to the boy or was never punished? because the liberal media left it out of the story?

B. Why did Democrats decide to ask for an apology for something that occured over 40 years ago that never involved them and doesn't matter? that's right "national exposure", and of course desperation.

newdayDAWNING...RETURNED: This is the problem with those who fail to read or fail to understand what they have read. I said, and I suggest you read it slowly this time, that 98% of those at my school went on to college and that the graduation rate was actually "much higher," meaning, more than 98%. So how does that translate to "some did it without a high school education." Then again, maybe you learned that new Democrat math where numbers mean whatever you say they mean?

"All cruelty springs from weakness."
(Seneca, 4BC-AD65)

I knew Mitt "Willard" Romney was an insecure bully when he identified himself as a Republican. The entire GOP is party based on the revenge of the nerds. The GOP attacks ordinary hardworking people and seeks to reward it's smarmy, elitist, tax avoiding base.

From "Behavior of the Bully" http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htm

Look how many fit Romney exactly....The serial bully:

• is a convincing, practised liar and when called to account, will make up anything spontaneously to fit their needs at that moment
• has a Jekyll and Hyde nature - is vile, vicious and vindictive in private, but innocent and charming in front of witnesses; no-one can (or wants to) believe this individual has a vindictive nature - only the current target of the serial bully's aggression sees both sides; whilst the Jekyll side is described as "charming" and convincing enough to deceive personnel, management and a tribunal, the Hyde side is frequently described as "evil"; Hyde is the real person, Jekyll is an act
• excels at deception and should never be underestimated in their capacity to deceive
• uses excessive charm and is always plausible and convincing when peers, superiors or others are present (charm can be used to deceive as well as to cover for lack of empathy)
• is glib, shallow and superficial with plenty of fine words and lots of form - but there's no substance
• is possessed of an exceptional verbal facility and will outmanoeuvre most people in verbal interaction, especially at times of conflict
• is often described as smooth, slippery, slimy, ingratiating, fawning, toadying, obsequious, sycophantic
• relies on mimicry, repetition and regurgitation to convince others that he or she is both a "normal" human being and a tough dynamic manager, as in extolling the virtues of the latest management fads and pouring forth the accompanying jargon
• is unusually skilled in being able to anticipate what people want to hear and then saying it plausibly
• cannot be trusted or relied upon
• fails to fulfil commitments
• is emotionally retarded with an arrested level of emotional development; whilst language and intellect may appear to be that of an adult, the bully displays the emotional age of a five-year-old
• is emotionally immature and emotionally untrustworthy
• exhibits unusual and inappropriate attitudes to sexual matters, sexual behaviour and bodily functions; underneath the charming exterior there are often suspicions or hints of sex discrimination and sexual harassment, perhaps also sexual dysfunction, sexual inadequacy, sexual perversion, sexual violence or sexual abuse
• in a relationship, is incapable of initiating or sustaining intimacy
• holds deep prejudices (eg against the opposite gender, people of a different sexual orientation, other cultures and religious beliefs, foreigners, etc - prejudiced people are unvaryingly unimaginative) but goes to great lengths to keep this prejudicial aspect of their personality secret
• is self-opinionated and displays arrogance, audacity, a superior sense of entitlement and sense of invulnerability and untouchability
• has a deep-seated contempt of clients in contrast to his or her professed compassion
• is a control freak and has a compulsive need to control everyone and everything you say, do, think and believe; for example, will launch an immediate personal attack attempting to restrict what you are permitted to say if you start talking knowledgeably about psychopathic personality or antisocial personality disorder in their presence - but aggressively maintains the right to talk (usually unknowledgeably) about anything they choose; serial bullies despise anyone who enables others to see through their deception and their mask of sanity
• displays a compulsive need to criticise whilst simultaneously refusing to value, praise and acknowledge others, their achievements, or their existence
• shows a lack of joined-up thinking with conversation that doesn't flow and arguments that don't hold water
• flits from topic to topic so that you come away feeling you've never had a proper conversation
• refuses to be specific and never gives a straight answer
• is evasive and has a Houdini-like ability to escape accountability
• undermines and destroys anyone who the bully perceives to be an adversary, a potential threat, or who can see through the bully's mask
• is adept at creating conflict between those who would otherwise collate incriminating information about them
• is quick to discredit and neutralise anyone who can talk knowledgeably about antisocial or sociopathic behaviors
• may pursue a vindictive vendetta against anyone who dares to held them accountable, perhaps using others' resources and contemptuous of the damage caused to other people and organisations in pursuance of the vendetta
• is also quick to belittle, undermine, denigrate and discredit anyone who calls, attempts to call, or might call the bully to account
• gains gratification from denying people what they are entitled to
• is highly manipulative, especially of people's perceptions and emotions (eg guilt)
• poisons peoples' minds by manipulating their perceptions
• when called upon to share or address the needs and concerns of others, responds with impatience, irritability and aggression
• is arrogant, haughty, high-handed, and a know-all
• often has an overwhelming, unhealthy and narcissistic attention-seeking need to portray themselves as a wonderful, kind, caring and compassionate person, in contrast to their behaviour and treatment of others; the bully sees nothing wrong with their behavior and chooses to remain oblivious to the discrepancy between how they like to be seen and how they are seen by others
• is spiritually dead although may loudly profess some religious belief or affiliation
• is mean-spirited, officious, and often unbelievably petty
• is mean, stingy, and financially untrustworthy
• is greedy, selfish, a parasite and an emotional vampire
• is always a taker and never a giver
• is convinced of their superiority and has an overbearing belief in their qualities of leadership but cannot distinguish between leadership (maturity, decisiveness, assertiveness, co-operation, trust, integrity) and bullying (immaturity, impulsiveness, aggression, manipulation, distrust, deceitfulness)
• often fraudulently claims qualifications, experience, titles, entitlements or affiliations which are ambiguous, misleading, or bogus
• often misses the semantic meaning of language, misinterprets what is said, sometimes wrongly thinking that comments of a satirical, ironic or general negative nature apply to him or herself
• knows the words but not the song
• is constantly imposing on others a false reality made up of distortion and fabrication
• sometimes displays a seemingly limitless demonic energy especially when engaged in attention-seeking activities or evasion of accountability and is often a committeeaholic or apparent workaholic

Joe B....

You're going to have to wait an extremely long time to see if Mr. Obama was involved in any 'pranks' during his school years...his school & college records are about as accessible to the public as the recipe for Coca Cola. Locked up nice & tight in a vault somewhere.

get over yourself...also known as preppie boy........The only difference between hazing and bullying is.........NOTHING! And you know how kids that hurt and kill animals often turn out to hurt and kill people? You preppie guys hazed and bullied, and you still see nothing wrong with it. Well, not until YOUR kid got bullied. No compassion for others, tho, right you repug?

Get over yourself--"In this instance they can be used interchangeably, that said, pointing our mis-spelled words or grammatical errors on a message board is the last refuge of those lacking intellectual capacity."

You get over yourself idiot. You have no value in what you say. AT ALL.

People no matter what should be treated with respect. Until they show there ass like you do. You a sad human being.

Hi New Day...

If this story is true, that was certainly a nasty thing to do. (Though, I should mention that I was born in the late 70's, so I am pretty clueless as to the culture back in the 1960's, particularly at boarding schools - I was a public school kid). Something I wouldn't tolerate my children doing. However, again, almost every Presidential candidate we have had since I have followed politics has had some sort of teens / 20's incident where they did something regrettable. I don't think that should necessarily disqualify them from being President. And clearly, the majority of Americans feel the same way (since the last several Presidents have all had a few regrettable, youthful moments).

Are you bothered at all by the fact that a story about an incident from almost 50 years ago somehow gets released today, hours after the President's announcement? It just seems too coincidental to me.

Good talking with you as always!! :-)

"All cruelty springs from weakness."
I agree. Great post.

Apologize for doing stupid things in college? No big deal Mitt. I would tend to agree that you are a different person now...in fact, you're a different person nearly every other week.

GetOverYourself is callous, at best. To diminish the incident and pooh-pooh its seriousness, displays a fairly high degree of insensitivity ... no, beyond that ... an actual willingness to accept (and excuse) deep cruelty. To dismiss such a horrifying story (and this story does tell me FAR more about Romney's essential character than anything else I've read or seen, to date) is to engage in a willing suspension of ethics -- so much for a clear sense of right and wrong. Diminishing this incident as he does either displays his own equal lack of a moral compass, or an equally despicable willingness to apply an unjustified double standard -- I am quite sure from the tone of his posting that he would cackle gloatingly and with a high sense of self-righteousness, were the political situation reversed.

Romney's behavior was reprehensible, and exhibits a blot in Romney's fundamental character. It is *not* mere 'hijinks' (in using that term, he merely shows that he's learned nothing since then). This cavalier dismissal of what truly was deeply wounding/frightening/power-display/cruel behavior is consistent with the original assault.

pjam09..........What makes me think he never apologized to the boy is the fact that he says he doesn't even remember the incident LOL. What makes you think he did? Because of all the apologies he made to the people he threw out of work when he was with Bain? LMAO.

"Joey dear - do try to keep up!

It already happened but it was 4 years ago... guess what?

They didn't find anything! lol"

Feisty dear - all that happened 4 years ago was anyone who tried to bring up BamBam's questionable past being branded as a racist by simple-minded hacks like you, and the idiots in the mainstream media changing the topic as fast as they could whenever even a hint of negativity about St. Bam was brought to light. He is the most protected-by-the-media president this country has ever had, plain and simple (two words that no doubt could be used to describe you, from what I've read from you on this board).

This was no simple prank, a prank is putting a whoopie cushion on someone's chair. in all my years in school, including grade school, high school, undergrad and graduate school, I NEVER saw anything happen remotely close to what Mittens did. Holding down and cutting off someone's hair is an assault and an incredibly mean and nasty thing to do to someone. Horrible and ugly just like Romney's political beliefs.

No, I'm not Frank, and I am honestly bewildered as to the point you are making.

Let's say that someone timed them to come out together.

Does it change the viciousness of what Mitt did?

I went to private school, at least in one town I lived in. This would not be acceptable. It isn't hazing, which is one form of bullying, but a determined vicious attack against a younger student, because he was different.

Character matters. Mitt is lacking.

I think it would be great if these boards were mandatory reading for our elementary grade students childhood last a lot longer then I thought

Hi NewDay...

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that I'm a little hesitant to believe the story word for word at this point. The timing of it's release is just a factor in making me hesitate a bit as is the political affiliation of the bulk of the people making the allegations. That's all. At this point, we have one story that has been news for a few hours. I'm personally waiting to hear more about it.

To answer your other question, no, the timing wouldn't change the alleged viciousness.

But again, I believe the American public doesn't hold Presidential candidates responsible for poor behavior in their youth.

Have a good one! :-)

I started off the same way Frank. My initial response was "if true". One can never be too sure. But, as I have been reading about it, I have become convinced that it did happen and does matter.

What bothers me about this story is the complete lack of empathy that Romney had, and seems to still have for the man in question. That divorce between what is right, and what Romney believes is the way everyone should look and act is frightening.

It would be so, no matter who the candidate was.

But, you know how much I think of you Frank. If we couldn't disagree, life would be boring indeed.

So we have to take the hearsay story from Democrats about an event some 50 years ago against a person now dead? Only committed intolerant hateful liberals will rationalize this into something important.

The national debt this week has exceeded the GDP, that is important and needs discussion.

The unemployment rate is still over 8%, longest time in our history at that level. That is important and needs discussion

Bernanke said this week that the country was headed for an economic cliff this year and there was nothing he could do about it. That is important.

There are bridges being build in the US by Chinese companies using Chinese workers. That is important.

This week China was given permission to buy a US bank. That is important.

Eric Holder of the DOJ may be held in contempt of Congress for not providing all the documents in the investigation of the operation "fast and furious" that cost the lives of 2 federal agents. That's important.

There seems to be an attitude in the Obama agencies that is evidence by federal employees watching porn for hours each day when supposedly at work. The EPA is deliberately crucifying people to set "examples", the GSA is throwing lavish parties (like the White House), inept management, loss of billions of dollars and the federal employees make mocking videos of their actions. Obama attitude pervades the agencies. That is important

Billions of dollars have been lost on failed energy loans tainted with lobbist kick backs. Solyndra, Fiskers, and others. Plus the billions given to GM to build the failed Volt that couldn't sell even with the government rebates. That is important.

The story about unidentified Democrats recalling something they did with Romney some 50 years ago is hearsay, speculation, and just a deflection from what is important.

VOTE ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT stop the pot smoking cocaine snorting ACORN activist, Dr Wright church follower, socialist Obama from destroying the economy even further than he has already.

It's also a little funny someone could remember word for word what was said at that time, most people can't remember what they ate for dinner the previous night

I think I'll just keep my long hair - though it is turning grey. I think the nasties on these boards though.. well... I bet thier hair is turning white as we speak.

Well, will be nice to have a president that we knew grew up in and *is from* the United States!!

But, you know how much I think of you Frank. If we couldn't disagree, life would be boring indeed.

Couldn't agree with your statement on disagreeing more!! ;-)

And I have nothing but respect for you and your opinions. It's nice to be able to have discussions without it degenerating into name calling...something that in politics is unfortunately much too easily done!

Take care! :-)

@Kayner and "Grimey", you two are officially my favorite people on these boards.

Does it honestly matter what Mitt did as a teenager? The way some liberals put it here, they act like they did nothing in their high school and college days. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I'll bet that's quite literally what happened. They stood by and did nothing while their friends mercilessly tortured some poor kid. Of course, they continued to hang out with these people during those days and now it haunts them.

On the other hand, assuming for a second that any of this is true, why does Mitt try to just sweep this under the rug? These are pretty serious actions and, I can't speak for Mitt, but the couple of rather serious issues I got into in high school I remember quite clearly. Granted I was in high school only about 10 years ago versus Romney's 30-40 some odd or however long ago it was, but those kind of things stick with you.

So... the guys who held down the kid are now complaining that Mitt was among them?

"Witness" is not synonymous with "participant."

To: Get Over Yourself!

While I will not sit and argue with you on political stances, nor whether Mitt Romney or Barack Obama are better than each other(or any other person in the world at this point for that matter), I will argue with you on your statement regarding college attendance and graduation rate for your Jesuit school. If you attended high school in the 1970's, as you state you did, this would be a major accomplishment for your private school. You see during this decade, the average graduation rate for public and private schools combined was somewhere around 72% as a whole. The average graduation rate for public schools alone fell somewhere around 73.2%. Now, before you pipe in and make a large "hooraah" or a dreidel induced rage fit about how I didn't understand your statement or that these are averages, let me point out that with private schools included, this average went down. I do however understand the Jewish desire to fulfill an education and place themselves on a mantel which is equal to that of Christ(who by the way has come in true form once and shall again). You however must be blind to the this point however and believe that a graduation rate is based solely off of those who complete all four years and receive a high school diploma. In fact, a graduation rate is based on the starting of a freshman year and whether or not that beginning student fulfills all four years of high school education. I myself would find it hard to believe that every student that started their freshman year at your testosterone circle of love school finished all four years at that school. I would also find it even harder to believe that even the "countiest"(Willy Wonka reference) of bean counter Jewish men would track each exiting student after leaving to ensure they completed high school before computing this excessively high number you have so graciously provided us with on several occasions during this post. So truly my point here is that it would be impossible to find a school today with such a high number as one did not exist in the 1970's as you would so hopefully lead us to believe. As I believe you stated to someone who questioned you earlier, "prove it". Well, I have done my research to argue a valid claim against yours, making you look like another comment room addict who will excessively lie and then beg others to prove him wrong. Show me yours and I shall show you mine. Provide us with this great proof of infinite wisdom you have with perhaps a website or even a yearbook production company and copyright date so that I may call to verify these numbers(given that during the 1970's many private schools which issued a yearbook also issued in those yearbooks their graduation rates and expected college attendance rates).

BANG!!!!( I know, it's all in one paragraph, but unlike you I don't work in my father's dreidel shop so I am unable to insure complete accuracy with my literary works posted in such a medium) :)

I have less problems with what he did in school than his "apology" now.

I have heard far worse tales from prep schools and, sadly, those things were accepted then. Hazing was the norm. When my dad got to college, he had to carry a paddle for upperclassmen to hit him with for the first week. Not by any means ok-but it was the norm.

However, looking back, my dad and his classmates appreciate how wrong it was-not just that it was done to them, but that they did it to others. Yes, it was a different time and they were young, but that does not make it ok.

I would have felt better if his apology included more contrition. "Stupid things" makes it still sound like fun pranks. It wasn't. As an adult living in this different time, and certainly as a candidate for president, he should know and say better.

@Get Over Yourself!: Strange that you equate the homoerotic sado-sexual misdemeanors of prep school punks with American "masculinity." Your perspective is unique.

Frank; you take good care too!

Romney physically assaults a gay student ? And uses gay slurs and cuts the persons hair ?

"If I did something stupid..."

If Mitt?? If you did something stupid?? Apparently you did, 5 other people said you did... The very least you can do is if you are going to apologize for it, own up to it.

If... The nerve....

I wonder if this bag of sh,it Romney will apologize for ruining the country if he gets elected

Funny how he can't recall much in the way of specifics, except that he couldn't have POSSIBLY said or done anything to mock someone's sexual persuasion, because of course that isn't PC or something that someone with presidential aspirations should have ever done. No, of course not, how ABSURD! Yikes.

And, he's the best the GOP can put forward, apparently. Gee, let's all rally 'round the little piggy!

Don't you just get the feeling that he's a real-life version of the "popular" jock bully with a rich daddy in those teen movies, who eventually gets his comeuppance? I can only hope that's the ending we get in November.

Democracy is a wonderful thing, even a person like Romney - this repugnant bully belongs to a party - the Repugnant Party which actually picks him as the presidential Nominee!

DISTRACTION ... what about jobs? Is this what what they have? A 16 year old pranking ... hello ... it was a different time. Obama was drinking and doing drugs heavily by his own account. Nobody seems to care about Obama ... his grades or his friends. We got nothing ... except he applied for a loans as a foreign student. I'm actually interested in his explanation on that.

Mitt is a pathological liar. Why does this surprise anyone?

The Republican plan for jobs is trickle down economics, they very policy that caused this recession.

The word is "foreign" Callie Ann. And you need to provide a reputable source for what you posted.

Hint: Fox, Glenn Beck and Worldnet are not reputable sources.

I'm no Mitt fan but to all who take issue with the if part, at least he isnt trying to redefine the word is. Is as in is now or is as in was then? God I miss Slick Willy. Fun times....

Jonathan...

Glad you brought Mr. Clinton up...and while I did not vote for him, he was a good 'moderate' president with flawed character traits.

But all this Newsvine uproar & horror over something Mitt Romney did in his teens.

When Mr. Clinton was serving as president, a woman named Juanita Broderick did a full blown interview that I believe was aired on "60 Minutes". She painstakingly detailed every event that amounted to her accusation that Bill Clinton sexually asaulted her while he was Governor of Arkansas...and I mean every little detail right down to the towel Mr. Clinton handed her to deal with her bloody lip. I doubt that "60 Minutes" or any other reputable newshour would have broadcast that interview if they did not find in credible.

And no....Newsvine wackos...the interview was not done by Glen Beck or Rush Limberger.

There was no uproar then in the nation. Maybe the nation was just worn out on Bill Clinton's behavior. HOWEVER...a woman went on national television and made a vividly clear accusation that a sitting President of the United States had sexually assaulted her just before he became president...and the nation did not care. Her charge was not refuted. Mr. Clinton took no action on 'slander' or 'libel' issues despite her horridly vivid story.

I'm betting you folks on Newsvine back then...if it was here...must have ripped that woman to pieces with your insults.

And now Mr. Romney is a horrible person for something stupid he did in his teens. And Mr. Clinton is revered...some of you would probably write that he's been a great husband to boot !

GetOverYourself: I've heard about SEVERAL students who have actually been killed or almost killed by "hazing," so, I'm sorry, but I don't see that there's really any difference between hazing and bullying....it's all relative and it's all damaging to the person it's aimed at!!

jumbog - you mean like the President we have now - who was born in Hawaii?

Does it honestly matter what Mitt did as a teenager?

If Mitt was a Democrat it would, but apparantly not since he's a Republican.

Mitt strikes me as one of the rich, spoiled bullies in one of those teen underdog movies. But as we know, the girl always realizes what a dick he is and falls for the poor underdog instead.

Hey NDD - valient arguments, too bad they were wasted on someone who clearly has no idea what they are talking about!

Anytime someone calls someone else anti-American, all I can think of is the hate filled frenzy Palin & McCain could whip the mob into at their klan rallies!

Ya got to consider the source... ;o)

Let's hear from Obama the real truth about his background. Here's a few untruths we've heard from Barry.....

Oh Goodee!!!

A day without an anonymous chain e-mail is like a day without sunshine! lmao

President Obama shows to be everything Romney is not - "A Leader" !!!

Weirded out Willard showed his devious mean-spirited Evil side from early on

Cold callous psycho Split personality Romney is the DEVIL incarnate!!!!!

Bill Thomas: so, I guess you won't be going out to put up the Obama/Biden 2012 bumper sticker on your car ?

Romney has a bumper sticker ("Etch A Sketch")

There is no hiding from the fact that ol' Etch-A-Sketch is a common garden-variety @!$%#. No wonder he is going to fail in November.

Romney apologizes for 'dumb things' during school years

He's apologizing for what he did in the past when he should be apologizing for being so dumb in thinking the people are going to vote for him after this criminal act and behavior.

Adios Robmee, go back to Mexico and pay some of those cheap salaries to the poor you feed off of.

Romney also waited until being busted publicly for assaulting the other student before issuing an apology, and even then he is pretending to have a memory lapse regarding the incident. He is a scumbag and it is impossible to understand how anyone could lower him or herself to such a sub-basement level as to vote for Etch-A-Sketch. He is disgusting.

My eldest brother is the same age as "Mitt" Romney. Never did he "beat up" a fellow soccer player who screwed up. He did not taunt, bully tease another student for being different. We were raised to be compassionate people. Fourteen years older than I, he was the first to go to College by saving money he labored hard for since the age of thirteen: picking lettuce and cucumbers on weekends and summer vacations and earning scholarships. All six of us children helped those less fortunate even though we were poor according to standards back then. We learned cooperation. When growing up in a three bedroom house with one bathroom, you learn to share. We communicated with each other because there was no tolerance for ugly behavior or insulting words in such a small household. Willard Romney performed acts of the very worst in human behvior...belittling others for being different. Today he lies about not "remembering" the incident. Unless you are discompassionate, dismissive and mean spirited one does not forget those heinous incidents regardless of age in any generation. Crucifixtion was once the execution of choice within the Holy Roman Empire for all nonviolent crimes. Apparently he has carried his same philosophy at Baine Capital. Has he ever practiced Law? Does he really know what the Constitution Says? None of the Neocons of the Political Right knows what the Constitution states. They subscribe to the interpretation that Conservative connotes Religious Fundamentalism of the most extreme. Political Conservatism has been pulled over the eyes of the misinformed public as the new Theocratic States of America. Has nothing to do with the Constitution. In the past three decades our Democracy has eroded down to paternalistic omnipotent control by those who have no interest in public service only individual egos. Why is John McCain a Medicare beneficiary when he has a very well paying career position as AZ's Senator? Why does it take at least twelve staffers to one Lawmaker's office in Washington, D.C.? This Nation no longer believes in individual freedoms...the career politicians (Tea Partiers included.) now represent the Corporation at the expense of the individual. Conservative Christian values? Its just a facade to feed the egos of those who have no tolerance for the diversity of this Country. Being a mainstream Christian gives Lawmakers the right to judge others for being different and govern out of fear.

@Fiesty:

Second, it wasn't a haircut, it was an ASSAULT... you idiot!

You're pitiful attempt to defend Willard says all I need to know about you!

Odumbo shoving a young girl is an ASSAULT you idiot!

You're pitiful attempt to ignore what the Obamanation did is all I need to know about you!

Geez, why is this even a story??? Is this the bst you got MSNBC?? Article about what Romney did when he was a student??????? Then try and turn it into a gay bashing deal. AT the time Romney was in college it was a different world, not everthing was a constant PC issue like it is today. Beleive it or not people had other things on their minds than gay agendas and how to bash them!!! How about we stick to the issues facing this country rather than playing lets see which side can personally attack the other side more??? In fact why the hell is this all about sides anyway???? Why do we completely generalize and stereotype people by which party the vote for??? Were not all automans that think exactly alike if we are dems or repubs. We have to start working together as a nation, neither side is perfect or completely right or wrong. Good as well as bad ideas from both.

At least someone can actually remember Romney in school. Can anyone remember Obama?

You know the student who in his own words (see his first autobiography) would "smoke dope and do blow when he could afford it, but never crank." At least he has the morals to stop at coke and say no to heroin.

To all the high and mighty condemning Romney, look in your own past and tell me you don't have at least one event in your life where you behavior absolutely embarrasses you now. If you are honest with yourself you will have more than one.

Bad judgement comes from a lack of experience.

Experience comes from bad judgement.

That is what our child hood is for, to learn how to behave.

It is really quite amazing that the big pile of dirt the Democrats could dig up was from Romney's high school days. So there was no dirt since, something like 44 years later, and this is all you have? Well it seems the Republicans have a chosen a very clean candidate, then.

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From a different angle. Those who wish to label Mr. Romney a bully ought to look at the behavior of Mr. Obama. Clearly his willingness and frequency of using his office's bully pulpit show him to be a pathological bully.

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Here's what this is really about. Obama was pandering to the powerful gays in Hollywood (See Clooney fundraiser last night.) But even California has marriage defined as man/woman. 38 states in all are against it. For those who can't do math, that leaves 12 that have not expressed an opinion. (If you are Obama then it means 19 since he thinks we have 57 states but I digress.

But Obama did nothing. He changed no law. In fact he completely straddled the fence, saying it was a states right to decide. Well 38 have already. The militant gay rights groups are pissed for this weak proclamation. The religious folks are equally pissed. And for what? So he could straddle the issue and collect the cash.

If you call that leadership, well you have no idea.

RTypo...

"If Mitt were a Democrat" it would "matter" what he did as a teenager ???

As opposed to the media's attention to detail to the lives of recent Democrat candidates like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton ???

I didn't think there was any LSD around anymore...throw it away, it's very damaging.

Romney doesn't recall the alleged incident because it never happened. The Washington Post that first printed this story was forced to change it. They first printed that they had some kind of first hand witness to the incident but now admit that was contrived, and just like an obnoxious kid, they stubbornly refuse to apologize for the slanderous lies printed.

Now we can sit back and read with amusement all the vile comments by the ideologically crippled morons here that desperately want to believe the original false story and refuse to acknowledge the correction.

I understand the dilemma facing the left wing nut jobs. Romney is so squeaky clean; they're forced to fabricate dirt about him. The only problem is that all too often, their lies are quickly exposed forcing them to scurry back under their rocks.

"I understand the dilemma facing the left wing nut jobs."

There is no dilemma for the right wing lunatic fringe. When faced with ugly facts it is easier to lie and deny than it is to accept the truth. Moral courage and personal integrity are not high on the list of virtues that are embraced by conservatives, unfortunately.

lets see the list spanky

Kind of want to see the list, too, actually.

He...is a muslim?

He is Kenyan?

He wasn't born in the US?

Shucks, I didn't even get into Romney's flip flops, my fingers would get tired long before the list was complete.

the bigpicture - Spanky's new computer erased the list! Oh my!

He...was for gay marriage, then against them and instead liked civil unions, then was for gay-marriage again.

(So was Romney, btw)

He was a member of a church which said terrible things against other races.

(So is Romney, btw)

He...was very pro-choice

(So was Romney, btw)

He...crafted legislation mandating healthcare

(So did Romney, btw)

He...

Dang, this is hard. And I had to go after some of his political points there, I couldn't find too many obvious ones coming to mind.

Thanks but we already have a Democrat in office, maybe Romney should run in the democratic caucus.

You left out selling American technology companies to the People's Liberation Army of China, while at Bain.

Sure.

Good thing I made comments about his life away from politics, yeh?

Still want to see your list though, pretty sure it can be matched or exceeded by Gov. Romney. Especially if we go down the tricky, tricky paths of political-life.

GITMO - A 'NO' to closing via the GOP

drone strikes - better than BOOTS on the ground

cutting the deficit - The figures were skewed as to how BAD the U.S. REALLY was under Bush

unemployment - see cutting the deficit

maybe he dropped his new etch - a -sketch......

We MUST pay for everything...except two wars.

We MUST pay for everything...except Medicare D.

We MUST pay for everything...except tax-cuts.

We MUST pay for everything...except tax-breaks.

We MUST pay for everything...except our military.

We MUST pay for everything...except the pork we throw at our states.

We MUST pay for everything...except our bank bailouts.

That's what I was hearing from the GOP when I stopped voting for Republicans at any level in 2008.

And, from the other aisle, it has become

We MUST grow our economy...to pay for the bills Bush wracked up, to pay for the wars Bush started, and to pay for the entitlements Bush grew.

Not a hard choice.

Teknishan

He...was for gay marriage, then against them and instead liked civil unions, then was for gay-marriage again.

(So was Romney, btw)

He was a member of a church which said terrible things against other races.

(So is Romney, btw)

He...was very pro-choice

(So was Romney, btw)

He...crafted legislation mandating healthcare

(So did Romney, btw)

Thank you for the points on how there is very little difference between Romny and Obama I hope you don't mind if I use them.

You mean the Social Security Trust Fund of 2.6 trillion? That one?

Or did you mean that it has been looted to pay for the military?

Or that it had been looted to cover 'the spread' in companies like Bain liquidated the pension funds from?

Or that it had been looted to pay for war expenditures?

The Trust Fund is fine.

The other expenses need to be budgeted for, preferably by line-item. Let's lock it in stone, shall we?

X% = Social Security

Y% = Medicare

Z% = Military

A% = Discretionary spending not previously listed.

Then we can see where Americans REALLY feel like cutting their taxes.

Watcha think?

I love childish debates, especially when liberals have no idea what they're talking about. It's not woth arguing with ignorance and those that are obstreperous

I'm back baby.

Fantomdog: THANK YOU!

"GITMO - A 'NO' to closing via the GOP" - The GOP blocks closing GITMO--and the right complains it's Obama's fault?

"drone strikes - better than BOOTS on the ground"

Bush gets us into 2 UNPAID wars (for which we are STILL paying--WITH interest--so much for GOP caring about DEFICITS!)

Not to mention the cost in human lives--how many of our young people have died over there for WHAT??? 5,000? MORE? That doesn't count maimed and wounded warriors.

And the right complains about DRONES? Puhleeeeeeeeeeze!

Here's the basic breakdown.

Of every dollar you are taxed...

Out of every dollar, the government spends...

64.4 cents to Defense and Pensions (mostly retired military)
30.8 cents to Health
16.8 cents to Welfare (International and domestic. WIC, etc)
28 cents to everything else (NASA, infrastructure, public projects, etc).

Yes. that means you borrowed 40 cents on each dollar.

Time to start cutting.

Or everyone can pay their share of the debt.

You pick.

I like them both, together.

Raise taxes AND start chopping some. I want to start with Defense and Pensions.

And don't forget our wager on the Natty Ice.

Case vs Case on the General Election Outcome. :)

In five years, the interest alone on Obama's growing debt will be more than the entire defense budget, social security and healthcare; that's without paying any principal at all. We have to cut spending, quit borrowing, create private sector jobs. The current admin hasn't and can't do it; time for a change. In four years if we don't like the results we can change again.

It only took 1 year for the Conservative Agenda in England (austerity. Stop spending, enact budget cuts to balance the budget), to cause them to fall into a double-dip recession.

Or, if you believe the recession never really ended, it only took 1 year to send England into a full-blown Depression.

So 4 years of that before we can change-out?

No thanks. I'll stick with an anemic 2.2% GDP growth since it's better than everywhere else right now.

Tek, Greece, Spain, Ireland, France, kept rendition,Patriot Act, troop surge In Afghanistan, 10 year deal with the corrupt Karsai regime, failed to support Green Revolution in Iran, secret releasing of Taliban prisoners, solyndra TSA, GSA, Rev Wright, Bill Ayers,Vance Jones,economic team departure 16 trillion debt,Fast And Furious. Please tell us about your idol. Romney might not be the answer, but he sure can't be any worse then what we have

To: Get Over Yourself!

While I will not sit and argue with you on political stances, nor whether Mitt Romney or Barack Obama are better than each other(or any other person in the world at this point for that matter), I will argue with you on your statement regarding college attendance and graduation rate for your Jesuit school. If you attended high school in the 1970's, as you state you did, this would be a major accomplishment for your private school. You see during this decade, the average graduation rate for public and private schools combined was somewhere around 72% as a whole. The average graduation rate for public schools alone fell somewhere around 73.2%. Now, before you pipe in and make a large "hooraah" or a dreidel induced rage fit about how I didn't understand your statement or that these are averages, let me point out that with private schools included, this average went down. I do however understand the Jewish desire to fulfill an education and place themselves on a mantel which is equal to that of Christ(who by the way has come in true form once and shall again). You however must be blind to the this point however and believe that a graduation rate is based solely off of those who complete all four years and receive a high school diploma. In fact, a graduation rate is based on the starting of a freshman year and whether or not that beginning student fulfills all four years of high school education. I myself would find it hard to believe that every student that started their freshman year at your testosterone circle of love school finished all four years at that school. I would also find it even harder to believe that even the "countiest"(Willy Wonka reference) of bean counter Jewish men would track each exiting student after leaving to ensure they completed high school before computing this excessively high number you have so graciously provided us with on several occasions during this post. So truly my point here is that it would be impossible to find a school today with such a high number as one did not exist in the 1970's as you would so hopefully lead us to believe. As I believe you stated to someone who questioned you earlier, "prove it". Well, I have done my research to argue a valid claim against yours, making you look like another comment room addict who will excessively lie and then beg others to prove him wrong. Show me yours and I shall show you mine. Provide us with this great proof of infinite wisdom you have with perhaps a website or even a yearbook production company and copyright date so that I may call to verify these numbers(given that during the 1970's many private schools which issued a yearbook also issued in those yearbooks their graduation rates and expected college attendance rates).

BANG!!!!( I know, it's all in one paragraph, but unlike you I don't work in my father's dreidel shop so I am unable to insure complete accuracy with my literary works posted in such a medium) :)

Tek,

What do you think when a president say's,

"when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf"

Your President is their Commander in Chief, MRWSR; they are therefore, fighting on his behalf since he ordered them into war. Your President is sensitive to that, how odd that you are not. Never ceases to amaze me, this level of pettiness, but Mitt assaulting a younger student is just fine with you, right?

Incidentally: you are not the arbiter of who is of proper American thought and who is not. And most people, who are aware of the First Amendment of the Constitution would consider your post to Feisty to be very un-American indeed. But, "teabaggers" have very little brains, and we must excuse their inability to see a larger picture.

Newday,

I served my country, not on behalf of any president. You would not know what that means. Plus you want to be in the same group as Fiesty, by all means have your rant. Y'all deserve each other. Be careful when claim that we have little brains. It's Tea Party. If you want it to be a reference of you putting your testicles on someones face, then what does that say about you?

Says nothing about me, MRWSR: I'm not a "teabagger,"a group so devoid of any cultural knowledge that they picked that name for themselves.

Then you didn't follow your oath when you joined the military. Your President is your Commander in Chief, and therefore you are subject to orders from him.

And I say it again: If you are military, (which an awful lot of you claim, and I always find suspect) you swore an oath to defend this country and Constitution. To say that someone else is Un-American because they don't agree with you is, well, Un-American.

You aren't fit to wipe Feisty's shoes.

Newday,

I don't care if you believe me are not. I follow orders, that does not mean that is the reason I am there.

Teabagger is an insult, crude and wrong.

I can say Anti American if I want to. When some one wants to fundamentally change this country away from it's founding principals, I will say it is anti American. Or as your presidents say's Unpatriotic. I am not fit to wipe any ones shoes, I don't think I am above anyone. You sure do. Try as you might you will not see the day when the progressive agenda succeeds. Here on this site you feel empowered by the bias and hate. You are intolerant and a bully by every standard. You and Fiesty spill you leftest hate and want people to give you praise for you belittling of people.

No need to respond. No point.

What would the likes of you know about the Founding principles of this country? I laugh to think about it.

Here is one founding principle: The Founders were concerned that all points of view be respected.

You don't.

Therefore, you do not believe in the founding principles of this country.

See newday,

This is why I said don't respond. You just do the same stuff.

You will at no time every respect a conservative point of view, you have only (by what I have seen here) put it down. You will not even agree to disagree. Simply belittle and name call. That is your only means of debate.

Founding principles would not be based on the reference of Teabagger.

And you will not respect the views that don't agree with yours.

While I realize that it is the mantra of the "teabaggers" that they may dictate to others, I will decide to whom and when I respond.

By the way...did you know the "teabaggers" of Jefferson's day hated him? With a hate equal to the current "teabaggers" hatred for your President.

Yeah, they couldn't stand Jefferson. The man was brilliant and they couldn't bully him.

Just like now.

Just sad newday.

Blinded and full of anger. Damn those who oppose you. Divided by your hate. Blame all you want.

America will survive obama.

MRWSR...

Arguing with children will get you no progress. Spare yourself the frustration of trying to get across an actual point in this debate. Your mellow sentences are only making the real teabagger you're debating with, more hostile by the moment.

Just let it go away.

MRWSR: But we won't survive Romney if he's elected!! Trust me on that one! As a note, I'm a retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel, and I served on BEHALF of my president AND my country.

Poor MRWSR: what...do facts offend you? Just trying to educate those who need it on what the Founder's lives were like. It is clear that you don't know!

And tony? Were you invited to comment? The thing that most amuses me about "teabaggers" is that when they can't respond with fact (and they never can) they go for pejorative. Big word, tony, but you can use your search engine and find out what it means.

Best quote:

"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals"

Sums up the Tea Party pretty well, when you think about it. Jefferson and Co...were so liberal they were downright casting the status quo into the dust.

Their intellectual heirs aren't the people blindly following dogma, they're the ones continuing to push the political envelope in all ways. Which includes adjustments to the 'founding principals' of each and everything.

After all, the 'founding principals' of the colonies was the support of Their Majesties the Kings and Queens of England.

So true, tek: free man ruling free men was the most radical idea of its time.

Didi: thanks for your service and clarifying for our friend what his obligations are!

The Crazy TeaBaggers worship the Koran !

Let's see........

Evil weirded-out Willard see's nothing wrong with strapping his dogs to the roof of his car

Does not see the harm in bullying and taking the scissors to hack someones hair off

Loves to Fire people, hates women, minorities, gay people, teachers, the poor, etc Etc ETC

Is a Liar, Flip Flopper, Untrust-worthy, Arrogant, Stiff, Confused, Boring, Split Personality, is disconnected from average and working class America

Has No vision, No solutions, No Real answers ....

Who the FK would vote for an out of touch Sociopath like Willard???????

Vote these arrogant self righteous Flip Flopper dictators out like Mitt !!!

newday...

Next time I'll remember to ask for your permission before I dare to enter any comment on this site. And I'll also look you up whenever I need to be "educated" on any topic. When one needs help developing an opinion or when trying to express a cogent thought...it's always best to first get that opinion or thought validated by someone so intelligent and mature that they actually get a thrill out of the boringly repetitive use of the word "teabagger".

"Teabaggers worship the Koran" ??? And you call them crazy ???

Try to get a grip !