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Vice President Joe Biden on Sunday said that's he's "absolutely comfortable" with married same-sex couples being granted the same rights as heterosexual pairs.
"I am absolutely comfortable with the fact that men marrying men, women marrying women, and heterosexual men and women marrying another are entitled to the same exact rights, all the civil rights, all the civil liberties," he told NBC's David Gregory on "Meet the Press." "And quite frankly, I don't see much of a distinction beyond that."
President Barack Obama has said his position on same sex marriage is "evolving," and he supported civil unions but opposed marriage for gay couples during the 2008 campaign. Biden noted Sunday that the "president sets the policy" and that he did not know if the administration would formally come out in favor of same-sex marriage in the president's second term should he be re-elected.
But the vice president said that attitudes about gay marriage in America are changing in favor of greater tolerance for loving homosexual partners.
On Meet the Press today, the vice president discussed the administration's position in the same-sex marriage debate.
"The good news is that as more and more Americans become to understand what this is all about is a simple proposition," he said. "Who do you love? Who do you love? And will you be loyal to the person you love? And that's what people are finding out is what -- what all marriages, at their root, are about."
An aide pointed to the administration's efforts to challenge the Defense of Marriage Act and said that the vice president's comments only reiterated Obama's past support for "committed and loving same-sex couples."
"The vice president was saying what the president has said previously -- that committed and loving same-sex couples deserve the same rights and protections enjoyed by all Americans, and that we oppose any effort to roll back those rights," the aide said. "That's why we stopped defending the constitutionality of Section 3 of the Defense of Marriage Act in legal challenges and support legislation to repeal it. Beyond that, the vice president was expressing that he too is evolving on the issue, after meeting so many committed couples and families in this country."
Section 3 is the section defines marriage for federal purposes as between one man and one woman.
Biden, who twice ran for president before accepting the job of Obama's second-in-command, pushed back on persistent speculation that he could be replaced on the 2012 ticket by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. "There's no way out. I mean, they've already printed Obama-Biden!" he said.
And he quipped Sunday that he and one-time rival Clinton may run on a joint ticket in 2016.
"I think we may run as a team," he said, quickly noting that he was joking.
"I don't know whether I'm gonna run," he added. "And Hillary doesn't know whether she's gonna run."
Human Rights Campaign, an advocacy group for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender rights, said it was encouraged by Biden's comments. Biden "rightly articulated that loving and committed gay and lesbian couples should be treated equally," President Joe Solmonese said in a statement. "Now is the time for President Obama to speak out for full marriage equality for same-sex couples."
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Through all of time, animals and humans have practiced the art of bisexuality making the act of homosexuality as natural as going to the bathroom.
What human beings don’t realize is sex is sex no matter whom it is shared with.
If one act of copulation is wrong, then all acts are wrong.
The only difference between heterosexual sex and homosexual sex is
in the act of procreation. The majority of heterosexual human population does not engage in sex as in act of creating life. Heterosexual males and females engage in sex for their own physical human pleasure, survival and finances.
All sexual body parts concerning intercourse whether homosexual or heterosexual are all located near the area where the human body eliminates waste.
All forms of waste elimination hold impurities that were processed inside the bowels and kidneys of the human body and there for, neither act is pure, safe or clean.
All sex holds risks there is no safer sex not between two men, two women or a man and a women. Even using birth control or condoms is not safe, for condoms can break and seep fluids and birth control can be ineffective.
When arguing the fact that anal intercourse is more dangerous than vaginal intercourse it is well documented that many heterosexual couples enjoy the homosexual act of sodomy and in fact in many popular women’s magazines they feature articles about sex where heterosexual men and women confess that they like the act of sodomy over regular intercourse, because it is a tighter space.
There is no validation that can be used in defense of sex. Sex is a free will act used for pleasure, gratification, domination and procreation. Sex is not a necessity to sustain life sex is only necessary to create life and now mankind has found away to not only clone life, but to artificially inseminate life, so therefore sex is now a free will choice it is not a required, essential indispensible or mandatory human function or activity.
As far as oral sex goes, no matter whom you choose to have oral sex
with, it is still one person’s mouth on another person’s genitalia.
If one area that eliminates human waste is considered to be sinful then so is the other.
Cleanliness is next to Godliness. You cannot pick and choose your sins.
Good keep your hairy bung hole out of my house ! LMFAO
So, I CAN marry my pony ?
Yo Reverend Marie - Exactly in which church are you officially ordained?
Leviticus 18:22
New International Version (©1984)
"'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.
New Living Translation (©2007)
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.
English Standard Version (©2001)
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Never have sexual intercourse with a man as with a woman. It is disgusting.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman: it is abomination.
American King James Version
You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
American Standard Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination.
Darby Bible Translation
And thou shalt not lie with mankind as one lieth with a woman: it is an abomination.
English Revised Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Webster's Bible Translation
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
World English Bible
"'You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestable.
Young's Literal Translation
And with a male thou dost not lie as one lieth with a woman; abomination it is.
Romans 1:27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Leviticus 20:13 "'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
You can cite whatever,whomever,it doesn't change the visceral reaction of revulsion people have to be taught to not feel about homosexuality
shari
And what did Jesus say about being gay? actually quote. I am christian and I am am really tired of the hate that "christians" spread.
I am tired of of all this "oh sodom and Gomorrah" crap when Sodomites is a term for rapists and the biggest rapist in this country are,the Corporation Alpha Oculus Worldwide Group News! The Corporation - Full Movie
Homosexuality is confirmed to occur natural or do you support the idea that the animals are making a choice?..... Or are you one to cover your ears and deny science. God is the judge leave it to him and stop causing so much hate.
Also Does the Bible say the anything about hermaphrodites? Just curious.
Since the beginning of man, murder has been practiced also. That doesn't make it right and natural.
There are animals that have what humans would refer to as homosexual acts. There also have sex with different species. (I know this because I have a large dog and some goats) Doesn't make it right.
Some insects kill and eat their partner after sex.....yum, yum....not doing that one either.
Some humans in Africa are cannibals and eat human flesh....again, doesn't make it right and I am not going to support it just because it is done by some people and they call it natural. Last I heard Jeffrey Dahmer was very sick and I do not remember anyone coming to his defense because it happened somewhere, sometime in history. Laws weren't changed to make it acceptable because other people in another country do eat humans. So this defense does not work.
Shari-2360569,
You misinterpreted the Bibles words. Let me help you understand them.
God and Christ taught love and equality not condemnation and exclusion.
The way a human being interprets things will tell you if they have a negative mindset or a positive one.
In Genesis 3:16 God’s punishment to Adam and Eve was the ability to produce off spring.
Procreation of the human species was a punishment. Not a blessing.
To continue their species mankind must sin, for mankind proved that they were sinners by not obeying their creator God.
In Leviticus 20:13: God remembers the story of Adam and Eve and how Adam took advantage of Eve and started the human race on a path of sin.
It is here that God tells the people:
“If a man also lies with a man, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”
God did not say man could not lie with another man in love. God clearly states that he does not want men to treat other men in the same vile manner in which they have treated women kind.
“If a man also lies with a man, as he lies with a woman both of them have committed an abomination”
This scripture implies prostitution.
The entire scripture of Leviticus is a list of God’s sins.
God does not want MAN to prostitute themselves like they do with women.
In other words, God does not want man to use his abilities for unworthy purposes such as the act of engaging in promiscuous sexual relations.
God is telling man that it is wrong to be sexually impure to a woman and it is also wrong to be sexually impure to a man.
"Enough is enough.” God commanded. “Look at all the harm you have done to women kind. This is wrong. Do not repeat this to your own kind as well."
God does not want men to cheat on other men or rape other men like he does women, nor does God want men to have concubines or be promiscuous with other men or have sex with their male off spring or male relatives.
This is not a remark against homosexuality. This is a remark against corrupt sexual conduct.
The body is meant for love not impurity for all acts of love represent the lord.
In 1 Corinthians 6:13 it states: “The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.” 1 John 4:16: God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.”
God intended sex to be for the purpose of love. Pure love and for children. Not for gratification. To love naturally is to love selflessly without the interference and persuasion of lust and needful desires that might corrupt you.
The authors of the Bible wrote the stories all the stories in the Bible as metaphors. God did not care who loved whom, homosexual or heterosexual. The proof of this lies in Genesis 2:18 when The Lord God said:
“It is not good for man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”
Suitable meaning: similar, matching, compatible. God only cared who degraded their bodies with the indecency, lust and perversion that comes from the temptations of human mind. God did not care if a man loved another man as long as there was love between them.
Murder causes harm, homosexuality does not.
I did not misinterpret anything. I took them directly out of the Bible. Obvioiusly interpretation is a matter of perception. And we do not share the same perception of the verses that were written. And if when God made a helper for man who was similar, as you state, why didn't he make another man?
Leviticus AND Romans were both written to the followers of God - - - NOT the Secular world.
Shari, the bottom line is that the bible does not make our laws; we are a secular nation.
I was never taught not to feel "revulsion" about homosexuality, nor have my children been taught that.
JOregon.........homosexuality not being harmful is also a matter of opinion. Have you seen the rectal sphincter after anal intercourse? (probably) not good!!
Shari-2360569,
Now your being silly.
You can not compare or equate Homosexuality to murder or cannibalism. Homosexuality is a sexual preference not a crime or a food choice.
This is not an intellectual response. This response comes from the anger of your own condemnation and vexations.
You are VERY misinformed.
My defense is solid and sound it cannot be denied while your defense is grasping at straws.
All sexual body parts concerning intercourse whether homosexual or heterosexual are all located near the area where the human body eliminates waste.
All forms of waste elimination hold impurities that were processed
inside the bowels and kidneys of the human body and there for, neither act is pure, safe or clean.
All sex holds risks there is no safer sex not between two men, two women or a man and a women. Even using birth control or condoms is not safe, for condoms can break and seep fluids and birth control can be ineffective.
When arguing the fact that anal intercourse is more dangerous than vaginal intercourse it is well documented that many heterosexual couples enjoy the homosexual act of sodomy and in fact in many popular women’s magazines they feature articles about sex where heterosexual men and women confess that they like the act of sodomy over regular intercourse, because it is a tighter space.
As far as oral sex goes, no matter whom you choose to have oral sex
with, it is still one person’s mouth on another person’s genitalia.
If one area that eliminates human waste is considered to be sinful then so is the other.
Cleanliness is next to Godliness. You cannot pick and choose your sins.
Shari, more heterosexuals engage in anal sex than homosexuals do. And not all homosexuals engage in anal sex.
Do some research before you post -- but not in the bible.
ErinNJ..where did I ever state that I felt revulsion? Or did you assume that is how I felt? I stated I will never support a candidate who supports homosexuality or gay marriage. I have a cousin who is gay. I have had transgender babysitters for my children. I have friends who are homosexual. I love them as I should, but I do not support the sin any more than I support or am happy with the sins that I have committed. I do not ask my friends to support my sins, but to forgive me to committing them.
Shari - So you are OK with lesbians?
Shari-2360569,
You ask:
“If when God made a helper for man who was similar, as you state, why didn't he make another man?” post #329.10
In order to understand the story of Adam and Eve inside the original Bible, you must first look at Romans.
In Romans1:18: The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness.
By Genesis 2:18 God could tell Adam was getting lonely and so he decided to give him a companion.
Genesis 2:18: “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”
Suitable meaning: similar, matching, compatible. God had already created a human man so now God began creating other life forms such as animals but man was not satisfied.
Man could not find a suitable mate among these other life forms because there was no other man similar to him, but God did not wish to create another man so instead, God made man’s opposite.
By creating a woman, God knew he could taunt and test man’s free will.
God decided to see for himself if Adam’s soul could be corrupted once his mortal temptations are too great for him to bear.
When God created Eve he did so to test Adam’s self control.
God knew that if God created another man in Adams image that Adam would be happy, satisfied and fulfilled with his new mate for he and the other man would share things in common while living, working and loving on equal ground.
With another man to keep Adam company, there would be nothing different on Earth to tempt and confuse him and God would not be able to know how corruptible the human species was.
The Bible is all about testing a human beings loyalty, self control, honor and free will for the power of free will choice is the key to all happiness, peace and survival.
Once a human being gives into their selfish mortal desires, they allow corruption to enter their hearts and souls and once corruption enters their hearts and souls, they begin to struggle with their own morality, integrity, decency and honor.
Eve showed Adam that there was more to life then man and this is when corruption began to take over the Earth.
Man was not strong enough to resist the temptation of his own curiosity.
By Genesis 3 known as: "The fall of man." Man commits his first sin by allowing Eve to corrupt him with the forbidden fruit.
Knowing man can no longer be trusted with his own free will choice, God places more sin upon them.
The Lesson God teaches here is that once you sin you will always sin, so it is best not to sin at all.
Hope this helped.
Incidently. The penis can tear the vaginal wall and lining. No sex is safe nor is it virtuous.
Touche! No, I am not.
Reverand..Woman was made as a companion to man so that he would be a helpmate and not be lonely. It was not to tempt him. Satan tempted Eve through the form of a snake, and told her God lied and she could eat the forbidden fruit. Eve then in turn told Adam what the snake had said and offered the fruit to Adam. Both disobeyed God and were cast out of the Garden of Eden. Woman was made to bear children in pain as punishment. But she was not created to tempt man. God did give man free will, but he does not put more sin upon us, he allows Satan to tempt us as a test. It is entirely up to man which way he chooses. He also will not be given any tests that he cannot handle. Satan did the same thing trying to tempt Jesus, but Jesus did not fall to temptation. Satan works through deception, and continues to deceive mankind so that they will turn away from God.
God never created woman for temptation, but Satan uses sex as a temptation for all of us. The lust of the flesh. God definitely has guidelines for when and with whom sex is allowed.
God has also demonstrated how he feels about sin, i.e. Sodom and Gomorrah and the flood. Disobedience to God results in punishment. Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt because she looked back at Sodom and Gomorrah when God told her not to do so.
Our life down here is a test. Do we choose to follow God and his commandments or do we choose to sin and follow Satan? All sin has punishment.
Galations 1:6 I am astonished that you are so soon removed from him who called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel.
We disagree on what the message of the Bible is. But I am truly enjoying having an intelligent conversation. I would love to meet you for lunch and have a wonderful conversation.
Shari-2360569,
If God did indeed create us, then before we are born, God knew the path that each one of us would take and therefore whether that path be homosexual or heterosexual, God made us in his image and therefore God sends us here with his approval and his unconditional love and acceptance.
God is a part of everything and a part from the interference of human beings and civilization. Since God is a part of everything, God cannot be convicted to, nor can God support any one individual principle, ideal, belief, or philosophy.
God Loves All Life Unconditionally Not Just Human Life Or Selected Beings. God Does Not Play Favorites. God Loves And Accepts The Witch, The psychic, The Medium And The Homosexual. It Is Human Beings That Choose Not To Love And Accept Those That Are Different Then They Are Not God
God loves all creation equally. There are no exceptions nor are there stipulations. God does not play favorites, this is the way of a true and loving God.
God is not exclusive, God is both woman and man, child and adult, animal and mineral. Plant, vegetation, sky land and water.
I am glad you are not hateful like some of these other posters. You are convicted. There is a difference. It would be nice to meet you to.
It's the government's fault because I can't marry my pony!
Its called a sickness no matter how you look at it..I don't care what others think..Cure the sickness..
WRONG. The medical and scientific communities do not consider homosexuality a sickness, but they consider bigotry and homophobia sicknesses -- perhaps you should seek professional help.
are you with out sin...look people its Jesus on the vine
ErinNJ....since I am a registered nurse, and my husband is a psychologist, and neither one of us support homosexuality or feel that it is natural, and believe me, my husband definitely does not feel someone is born homosexual, you cannot say that all of the medical field feels that way. As my husband says, "Children are a product of their environment." His post doctoral work is in neurophysiology, just for information purposes.
Just because you and your husband do not "feel" that homosexuality is inborn does not make it so. The major medical and scientific groups -- including the American Psychological Association, if you'd like to tell your husband -- have stated that it is their consensus that this is so. And homosexuality was removed from the DSM in 1973 -- perhaps your husband needs to be told that, too. I'm sure that if I needed a psychologist, I would not seek out someone as uninformed as he seems to be (and you, too).
Tell me, when did you both choose to be straight?
To be prejudice and intolerant of homosexuality, you must also be prejudice and intolerant of heterosexuality. To condemn homosexuals you must first condemn heterosexuals, for all homosexuals come from heterosexuals. All though homosexuality is a sexual preference and nothing more it is the heterosexual couples that brought homosexuality into this world.
The truth of all prejudice and intolerance lies in religion and upbringing.
These are the Number one reasons for human condemnation.
That is why I said that "Children are a product of their environment." Give the APA a few more years, they'll change it again in the DSM. And I never stated that was what the APA stated. I said what I did because not ALL of the medical profession believes that. Believe me, I have contact with a lot of them. Most of the ones that I work with do not believe that homosexuality is natural. I'm not intolerant of people who are homosexual, I am intolerant of the sin of homosexuality. There is a difference. I am also intolerant of other sins. Not picking on just the sin of homosexuality. And I also do not believe that the sin of homosexuality is any worse than the sins that I have committed in life.
And Erin...he wouldn't take you as a patient, you're safe. He would refer you to someone who would best be able to help you, and I think it's great you are going to get help.
Homosexuality has been documented in approximately 1,500 animal species (besides humans) -- how much more "natural" could it be? Just because it's not common does not make it unnatural.
I never said I'm going to get help, because I don't need any; least of all help from the likes of you OR your husband. I think you both need a lot of help, though.
Really? So parents are causing homosexuality? Because the APA and other medical and scientific groups have spoken about that, too, and you are wrong -- again.
Sounds like your husband is an unlicensed quack, like Marcus Bachmann.
Or George Rekers
Sounds like someone in D C is abit "light-in-their-loafers".
There is a separation of church and state in this country. Legislation should not force any kind of religious belief on people. It doesn't matter if someone thinks it is an abomination...the truth of the matter is that marriage is a right only heterosexuals have in this country. Equal rights should be afforded to all. That is what freedom is. Why do Conservatives blast Liberals all of the time on Constitutional Rights, but at the same time suggest the government should not allow marriage to extend to homosexuals? Wouldn't a true Conservative leave it up to the individual to make a personal choice on the matter without interference fromt the government?
bingo
News Alert: ALL laws are based upon some sort of "religious belief".
Murder was included in the 10 Commandments. Does that make it "a religious belief" ??!?!?
You have to think about these concepts.
Wrong in concept, moto, murder was considered wrong long before there were any 10 commandments.
WRONG YET AGAIN. Show us where the Constitution mentions God, Jesus, the bible, or any other religious text or deity.
Our laws were based on English Common Law, and documents like the Magna Carta, NOT the bible or any religious belief. In fact, only two of the 10 commandments are laws in this country: murder and stealing.
You might want to learn to think, period.
All laws are not based upon some sort of "religious belief". Laws are a reflection of the people who live in a particular region. Most people regardless of any religious affiliation believe that murder is wrong. Stealing and any kind of dishonesty is usually frowned upon as well. It just so happens that individual morality and religions share some common core values. I don't recall the Bible referring to speed limits or property taxes. Our particular region of the world values freedom and equal rights...hence the argument.
I'm all for abolishing speed limits and property taxes! Lets support total freedom of everything. Makes it real easy. Everyone gets to do what they want, when they want, as long as they believe in it and feels it is right for them. Who really has the right to make the laws for another person if it goes against what they believe. I have quite a few laws I would like changed because I don't believe I should have to follow the ones that have been established. You don't have a problem with that, do you?
Shari, I believe you missed the point of what I said.
First of all, I was talking about how laws are manifested in a particular society.
Second of all, I was not suggesting we live in a lawless society, I was suggesting the laws should affect everyone equally.
Shari, how does gay marriage affect you? (I already know the answer, but I'm interested in yours.)
It does not affect her. She is acting from the fear of her programming not her common sence or her education. As a nurse she knows sex is sex and all sex is equal.
If you want to deny rights to some, it is a slippery slope until your rights are denied as well. The Republican Party and Tea Party are only interested in your opinion if you completely agree with their right wing, religious zealousy! If you have a different opinion, you are Un-American. People should be able to marry who they choose! Period! If you don't like it, don't go to their wedding! Don't marry a gay person! But, leave them alone! Thank you Mr Biden for stating how you feel. As a parent of two gay children, I wish more people in a position of power would speak up and damn the consequences! They are Americans too and Christian by the way. I have taught them that we have a loving God! Not a hateful one that you right wingers try to force on us!
First of all the only man without sin is Jesus Christ. Next, Same sex marriage is against nature and definately against God. If two people of the same sex want to commit that kind of sin it is up to them and God. For any church to condone this type of behaviour is also totally wrong against God. Read about sodom and Gaomora.
Concerning same rights. marry somone of the opposite sex and you will have same rights, period. End of discushion. These people are laughing at the Creator and will be delt with by Him. Who do they think they are kidding? What they are doing is completely wrong.
I would like to also comment on NYMike's comment. Humans are not animals my friend, although some of us act like animals. Aminals have not been born with the spirit of God in them. They can not reason, they just respond. You are totally wrong in what you have said. You are the one who is ignorant. Man has the spirit of God in him. Some humans never come to realize that and never experience his presence.
man without sin,
Marriage has nothing to do with nature.The natural world exists without the interference of human beings or civilization. The natural world is the material world, surrounding humankind and existing independently of human activities.
Marrige is a human activity.
The oxford dictionary states that: Natural means: existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind. In Webster dictionary 10a and 11 it states: growing without human care; not cultivated existing in or produced by nature: not artificial living in or as if in a state of nature untouched by the influences of civilization and society. The American Heritage dictionary states that natural is existing in or formed by nature. Genuine, authentic. Not affected by man or civilization; uncultivated; wild, organic, unrefined and unprocessed.
In other words, human beings are a part of nature, but their actions and the creations from their imaginations are not. The human mind is natural for it is organic. The creations human beings make from their thoughts and imaginations are not natural for they distort and alter nature through the birth of their inventions. Also, the materials used for human inventions are natural. What human beings do to altar those materials are not.
man without sin,
You are very misinformed and completely wrong about God. You also cannot end this discussion.
God does not condemn. Man condemns. God loves all creation equally. There are no exceptions nor are there stipulations. God does not play favorites, this is the way of a true and loving God.
God is not exclusive, God is both woman and man, child and adult, animal and mineral. Plant, vegetation, sky land and water. God Loves All Life Unconditionally Not Just Human Life Or Selected Beings. God Does Not Play Favorites. God Loves And Accepts The Witch, The psychic, The Medium And The Homosexual. It Is Human Beings That Choose Not To Love And Accept Those That Are Different Then They Are Not God.
God is a part of everything and a part from the interference of human beings and civilization. Since God is a part of everything, God cannot be convicted to, nor can God support any one individual principle, ideal, belief, or philosophy.
God created the Earth because God is part of the Earth and God created the homosexual because God is homosexual, God created the straight man because God is also straight, God is a witch, because he created the witch, this is why God uses magic and witchcraft to rule the land.
God created all life to be both good and evil because God is both good and evil.
Human beings are indeed animals this is a biological fact that you cannot change.
To respect ones individual right to freedom, human beings must respect the freedom of others.
It is now the 21st century and that means it is time human beings used their independence to determine what words and actions they can say and do that will benefit society and the planet without usurping the freedom and rights of others.
The right to freedom goes no farther than ones personal body, mind and space. If you care about what is said and done to you personally, then you must care how your words and actions affect others. Grant to all life forms the same rights and freedom that you seek for yourself.
Freedom is not free. True freedom comes with a price. The price of freedom is compromise and the acknowledgment that if you are free to cause pain, suffering and offence to others, then they are free to cause pain, suffering, and offence to you.
The price of freedom is respect. Once you lose your respect for others freedom turns to chaos.
Biden trying to get more Queer votes?
Its all totally natural, duh!
So "who do you love"? If I love a child, a pet, or two or three people (men or women) we can call that marriage? How about if I just love myself, can we call that marriage?
These leftists are crazy. Vote them out of office!!!
Why is it that anytime any word with the prefix "sex" in it is mentioned, all the righties start talking about sex with animals and children? Is it one of those Freudian things?
Marriage is the social institution under which two human beings establish their decision to live by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
You cannot marry an animal or a child.
I wish Biden was the child of a homosexual union ... oh, that can't be, can it? Then I DEFINITELY wish he was! Economy in the tank, people desperate for a jobs, foreclosures still at record high ... and the best he can do is spew kiss-atz comments luring homosexuals to pull the Democrat handle because he's on they're page. Vote em out!
Well, by golly....If joe said he approves....then I guess it's o.k.? Man, we all should give him our vote! Right? what a worthless simpleton!
It is always glee time when the current and soon to be 'former' veep speaks. Like his boss he is always the least knowledgeable person in any room discussing any subject.
He is as knowledgeable about life and particularly marriage, gay or otherwise as is a turnip in the White House garden.
Oh wait a minute maybe he IS a turnip in the White House garden?
Perhaps the ' hair plugs' he had installed in his skull to impress that blonde Jill person have turned sour ?
Oh well just a few more weeks to put up with this incompetent go along to get along ass.
Just what we need - another idiotic politician speaking out for queer marriages.
Jesus said "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."
But then He also said: "Go forth, and SIN NO MORE!"
So although no one should persecute sinners, neither should we fail to recognize sin nor accept it as an institution.
Jesus does not make our laws. We are a secular nation.
So can I marry my pony or not ?!?!?!?!?
Yes, you can marry your pony!! Heaven forbid I should pass judgement on you or that you shouldn't have the same civil rights.!! ;) Just make sure it's not a gay pony! or get LOTS of lubricant.
If your Pony consents, and understands then signs it's name to the marriage certificate why not?
Homosexuality is not a sin, it is a sexual prefrense the same as heterosexuality.
The only difference between heterosexual sex and homosexual sex is in the act of procreation.
No no no ! how old is your pony ? And is your pony of a different sex than you ? please consult the local raghead preacher for details. maybe they would prefer that you marry a goat or a camel ? Better check it out fully.
Is there a 'dowry'? Will you be able to marry your camel or another pony ?
Why must we have all these controversial subjects surface on every election year? This is how the media sews together a bunch of issues that have nothing to do with who is elected president. We have Gay marriage today and last week we had the abortion subject brought up. Never mind the fact that Roe versus Wade has been a law for over forty years. While many may have an opinion on abortion there would be too much civil unrest to change it. Yet the Media and the Democrats play the pro-choice women like they were a drum. They get all hot about abortion rights and they will be out drumming up votes for the Democrats. Seriously, the only issues that truly matter to who gets into office are the National Defense and the Economy. The rest are secondary issues that have no place in a presidential election. yet the media continues to attempt to steer the election with a hodge-podge of side shows.
Larry my old friend who hates Unions and Democrats. Roe v Wade has been law, but Republican Controlled States are passing laws to try and side step Roe v. Wade and since the current Supreme Court does not rule based on law, but party line if a Republican becomes President it will be overturned.
Why would Biden say this as a God fearing man? This prooves the word has'nt changed but man has! Then we wonder why we've lost favor in this country!
Why not eliminate any legal aspect to "marraige"? Why should an individual be treated diffrently under the law because they are "married"? Marriage should be a religious union (as it was originally) and not a legal one. Marrieds are taxed diffrently than singles, they're given different legal representation than singles, etc.
Why?
WRONG. Civil marriage predates organized religion by thousands of years, and same-sex marriages were legal in some ancient civilizations.
Because marriage has been a business relationship as long as it has been a religious union.
That doesn't make it any more right to treat an individual differently by law just because they're in a legal union. Single people should demand the same rights, or so-called legal unions should be abolished. I don't really see the constitutionality of denying one person's rights over another's; just because they've signed a piece of paper.
The @!$%# God gave us was created to get rid of toxic waste not a place for the Devil,s play. While we are fixated on the Devils Black Hole Dogma. The Devil has been busy helping our enemy's to create Scalar Weapons that will soon be used to vaporize our toxic BUN-NS. So here today and in Hell tomorrow, the Devil,s play is Biden,s Way.
You need to calm the crazy down.
These liberal-politico guys just can't help it! Providing fodder for the rest of us more level-headed conservative truth-seeking realists.
We can plainly can see the Dems are going thru their list of minority vote-getting campaigns.
They're falling on their collective a$$es trying to focus the country's attention AWAY from Obama's miserable failures, broken promises, and general stupidity
Today, it's the gay vote.... Stay tuned folks,
Tomorrow it's the "Plumbers w/ Buttcracks" campaign directive
Day after: "Transgender Prison Inmates"
Day after that: "Female mud-wrestlers of America"
Wrapping up the week with a two day political fundraising event for "Hollywood celebrities recovering from lobotomies"
I can see the DNC is really utilizing their hard-earned campaign dollars.
"Last year, I had all of my bleeding-heart liberal thoughts surgically removed to make room for more sarcasm"
Definitely came in handy dealing with all the MSN (More Socialism, Now) left-wing pinheads.
More smoke and mirrors by the Regime. They cannot run on the important issues. So they have to go for the shock factor. Bring up the unemployment or gas prices and they run like the cockroaches they are. Who cares what .008 of the population wants ? LMFAO
He and Obama would say anything for a vote.
What happened to gay as a word for happy. Let's be correct ( HOMOSEXUAL ) they want everything changed . If they are so proud of what they are why do they want to change things. QUEER . They want to shove it up every ones ass. What ever happened to the majority vote ? They want that changed too. They suck.
Of course Biden has no problems with gay marriage, just as he has no problems with any traditional voting block for the Democratic Party. If pedophiles screamed loud and long enough, intimidated the mental health profession into redefining the personality issues that adults have who want to screw children, get Hollywood and left-wing money to support THEIR civil rights, and make their screwed up minority appear like a viable voting block - Biden would have no problem supporting them as well. Let me make it simple for the intellectually challenged: A) If you believe in the Bible, then you MUST believe that homosexuality IS a sin, and you THEN have to choose to condone a sin or not - and THEN explain YOUR view to your maker. B) If you know anything about morality and natural and unnatural laws of Western Civilization, you MUST accept the fact that most civilizations have seen homosexuality as an abberation. Some chose to treat people that PREFERRED their own sex as freaks or "touched" (Native Americans); some chose to annhilliate them (Nazi Germany), and some chose to allow them to exist as long as they didn't pollute the mainstream culture (USA until the last 45 years. Of course gays will retrieve all sorts of crap like Spartans were gay - WRONG, they felt their was nothing wrong with circle jerks and male sexual behavior as a means to bond and reduce sexual stress (AGAIN sort of what the US saw as normal adolsecent sexual experimentation until the gay lobby said that anyone who did THAT was gay or lesbian), so that NOW kids don't know what the friggin hell they are most of the time. British accepted it until about 19th Century and then realized that it demoralized their military so much (expecially their Navy) that they banned it under threat of death (until AGAIN the last 60 years of so where they have pretty much adopted the same screwed up view as the USA). If you have no problem with any of it, then you won't have any problems when YOUR civil rights are thown into the trash can in lieu of theirs. NYMIke - can't you come up with something other the same garbage used to explain away some of the human species PREFERENCE for their own gender? Animal species exhibit imitation of sexual behavior unless they are impaired in some way genetically. Buck deer lick other buck deers genitalia to see who WHAT females they have been fooling around with. Adolescent elephants mimick humping with other males in preparation when they someday will be humping females etc. etc. Dogs sniff other dogs balls in order to, well, you get the idea - MAYBE. Just because some gay individual sits around in Central Park counting how many times dogs smell each others testicles doen'st mean that the ones that are doing it are homosexual, and that is EXACTLY the type of research conducted to support your "1000 species are gay". That fact of the matter is that only humans are so stupid that they can't figure out what their genitalia, testosterone, and physiology are for. Enough said.
It is time to come up with words for us to represent our rites and practices.If the words marriage,husband,and wife are stolen,we need new words that mean heterosexual marriage,husband,wife
Um, what about "heterosexual marriage, husband, wife"?? Does that work for ya?
no because they are being usurped to mean also gay rite/participants
You don't own the word "marriage," pained1.
pained: can you tell me exactly how "heterosexual marriage" as a term is being usurped by "homosexual marriage"?
The VP Mr. Biden is absolutely right for the First Amendment has to be respected first.
Then we can talk about our preference, our religion, our academic major, our career, our place to live, our shopping, our saving . . .
It is the First Amendment first.