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President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama greet suporters after a campaign event Saturday at the Schottenstein Center in Columbus, Ohio.
RICHMOND, Virginia -- In back-to-back speeches in two key swing states, the Obama campaign indicated how it wants to define the general election: as a choice between a tool of congressional Republicans who wants to undo the president’s first-term agenda and an incumbent looking to spend the next four years building on his achievements.
The president seemed to tie his presumptive Republican challenger Mitt Romney to Rep. Paul Ryan’s budget plan, which Democrats use to represent congressional Republicans’ entire agenda. Obama warned that in Romney, the House GOP had a candidate who would be willing to gut Medicare and end regulations on insurance companies and banks – policies “that created this mess,” the president said.
“After a long and spirited primary, Republicans in Congress have found a nominee for president who has promised to rubber-stamp this agenda if he gets the chance,” Obama said at Ohio State University, his first stop of the day, later adhering to the same script at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond.
“We cannot give him that chance,” Obama continued.
The president also sought to define himself in his two speeches Saturday, employing populist themes that touch on those of several past presidential campaigns while remaining entirely unique to the Obama campaign. Using a sort of “values play” evocative of the pitches used by the Clinton campaign, the president’s wife, Michelle, underscored that he grew up in an environment where everybody played by the rules, sometimes struggling to get by.
“He is the son of a single mother who struggled to put herself through school and pay the bills. That’s who he is. He’s the grandson of a woman who woke up before dawn every day to catch a bus to her job at the bank,” the first lady said of her husband in Columbus.
“So believe me, Barack knows what it means when a family struggles,” she continued.
Michelle Obama’s speech also employed a tactic from George W. Bush’s re-election campaign, in which the incumbent is portrayed as the familiar choice against an unknown risk.
“We all know what Barack Obama is -- who he is,” she said. “We all know what our president stands for, right?” she implored the audience.
There’s also a little bit of Harry Truman’s campaign evident in Obama’s pitch, as he warns supporters that they need to re-elect him in order to stop “those guys” in Congress who are threatening to pass items like the Ryan budget.
President Obama and the first lady hit the campaign trail on Saturday in key battleground states. NBC's Brian Moor reports.
“As long as I’m president of the United States, I will never allow Medicare to be turned into a voucher that would end the program as we know it,” Obama said. “That’s what’s at stake in this election.”
And in preventing Republicans from accomplishing their agenda, Obama is arguing, the lives of average Americans will continue to improve – even as he acknowledges they are not where they need to be currently.
So in a twist of Ronald Reagan’s “are you better off than you were four years ago” trope, which Romney is using, the president is asking his supporters if they think they are on the right direction to being better off, say, four years from now.
The real question, he said, “is not just about how we’re doing today. It’s about how we’ll be doing tomorrow.”
Obama drops gloves vs Romney in campaign launch
“Will we better off if more Americans get a better education? That’s the question. Will we better off if we depend less on foreign oil and more on our own ingenuity? That's the question.”
The decision to re-ask a different question to the "are you better off" refrain is a tacit acknowledgment by the campaign that the "are you better off" question isn't an easy one for voters to answer in the affirmative for Obama.
While his stump speech did copy some pages from past playbooks, one aspect of most presidential re-election pitches was absent from the president’s opening salvo: the introduction of a clear second-term agenda.
Instead, the president’s stump speech was all about protecting his first-term achievements like the health care reform law and developing alternative energy sources. And while, historically, second terms are mostly about preserving such accomplishments, there is usually at least a vague nod to what the president wants to get done in a second term.
But that was missing in Saturday’s speeches. Perhaps by the convention, the president will have a more direct pitch about what another four years will look like.
All about field operations
This election will likely be decided on the two groups of swing voters in American politics: that tiny slice of independents who actually do vacillate between the two parties, making up maybe 8 to 10 percent of the entire electorate, and those swing voters who “swing” between voting and not voting.
And while the Obama campaign will hold rallies like the two Saturday to generate media buzz, their more immediate concern is that they connect with exactly these swing voters – especially the second subset – which both the president and first lady seemed to make clear.
“We are going to win this thing the old-fashioned way,” the president said, emphasizing the need to go door to door and establish neighborhood-by-neighborhood teams of volunteers.
The first lady made a pitch directly to college students who, along with African-Americans, are the two groups who came out in the strongest numbers for the president but also run high risk of staying home in 2012.
“To all of the college students out there, all of you -- if you're going to be moving over the summer, remember to register at your new address in the fall. You got that? Get that done,” she urged.
Lost energy?
The crowds at Ohio State University’s Schottenstein Center were screaming enthusiastically, waving signs and chanting “Four more years! Four more years!”
But the arena did not reach its full capacity of 18,300, with about 4,000 of those seats remaining unfilled. Observers of the 2008 race know that the first Obama campaign would have been able to fill every seat.
But the crowds at both OSU and VCU were more enthusiastic than any so far at a Romney rally. And while the Republican Party has joyfully pointed out that the Obama campaign isn’t generating the same excitement that it did in 2008, the only campaign that has gotten more than 5,000 folks to show up is Ron Paul's, not Romney's.
And while the GOP has fun pointing out that Obama 12 isn't inspiring the response that Obama 08 is, it's worse for the party out of power. The real reason? This is going to be a negative campaign. And negative campaigns involving incumbents are simply different beasts.
It's a campaign in which both sides are painting a pessimistic view of life if the other side wins.
The Obama campaign did flex muscle the Romney campaign has yet to show: It can throw a big rally with supporters who are still gaga for their candidate. The little things that win close elections are something Team Obama is proving fairly adept at. Can Team Romney keep up on this front? It's an open question.
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The hot shot GOP promised that when they won the House they'd pass jobs bills. They didn't even try. The whole 4 years of the GOP strategy has been to do nothing and then blame everything on Obama.
There might be a few who will forget that the GOP brought us the Great Recession, but not many. Besides, the GOP anti-Mexican strategy has given the left the Hispanic vote, Big Boss Limbaugh's mouth and Romney's courtship of the religious right has handed the left the women's vote, blacks know that the GOP would like to put them back into the Jim Crow days, American Indians and Jews will continue to vote left, so the GOP can count on their 1 percenters and a bunch of under-educated automatons, so I'm not too worried.
More women "struggled" a LOT more than Ann Romney and resent the implication that she thinks she knows a THING about feeding kids with both parents working.
Wrong ....
Obama out in 2012 ....
Save what's left of America ....
Two words. Harry Reid.
4 Years???????? LOL!!!!! The dems had it all and didn't do anything constructive in 2009 and 2010. Did you forget how the Republicans got in there? Keep telling those lies!
Reid won't let any Republican House bill be voted on in the Senate. How can jobs be created when you have the Leader of The Senate and Democrat saying NO...NO..NO.. Typical of the Party of NO CLUE.
Isn't it cute how the Obama-Haters complain when Bush gets blamed for tanking the economy and call it excuses, but it is ok with them to blame Harry Reid for everything that is not getting done in congress?
Talk about excuses Charctine..............
Pepster, what I am talking about is hypocrisy.
I feel bad for Indiana Ron. Hoosiers will vote for Romney, and your beloved Obama will not fool the Hoosiers twice. Obama would not have won Indiana last time if not for all the illegal ballet stuffing. With all eyes on the election hanky panky, Indiana will remain unblue. Go Big Red!! IU hoot, hoot. IU hoot, hoot.
All Mitt has to do to win is tell the truth. There are WAAAY to many sound bites of Obama saying one thing and doing the opposite.
Obama can go away. In fact start watching - financial advisers are using the election to try and move your money into a pot that can be moved to a "Obama looks like a lock" safe harbor or a "Mitt is in the market is going to sky-rocket" position.
The fliers are coming in the mail already. So are the commercials on the radio.
Mitt Romney is incapable of telling the truth! He tells lies regularly.
Forward not backwards to failed policies of republicans!
why dont you list a few of Romneys "lies" for us Dumelizabeth?
Dem Elizabeth, remove one of the votes you got. You don't know what you're talking about, do you? Life is this country is getting worse for too many people and you apparently don't care. Vote for Romney, wake up. You don't need to reply to me, I'm going to bed.
Which truth? Pro-choice, as he once said, or anti-choice as he now says? Against the bailout of GM, but now that it has proven successful he supports it. Against going after Osama bin Laden - "Too expensive" - but now is for it.
The truth hurts, but duplicity is fatal.
How can anyone believe anything Etch-A-Sketch Romney says?
Mitt is an ultra-ambitious puppet. I seriously do not understand why there are all of these folks on here going ga-ga over MItt winning the WH. It is not going to happen. This will become clear by around July. By then, the Obama machine will humming along and making Romney look like the election-losing stooge he always has been. Some people just need to be taught a lesson.
Repubs should really be grooming Jindal, Christie or someone with some true political credibility to run in 2016.
because jersey - he hasnt told a boatload of LIES like obama has
What are you talking about Bruce? The only things Obama has to his credit are due to George W Bush. Have you ever heard the word "Vindication"?
Super Pac, "ultra-ambitious puppet" is an oxymoron.
PC -
Other than the twisted rantings from the Glen Beck types, what actually has Obama lied about?
where to begin gt - he lied about hcr - "wont add one thin dime" to the deficit, he lied while -holding the congress hostage on raising the debt ceiling claimed "if the Republicans wont raise the debt ceiling , I cant be sure socail security checks will go out" knowing full well that at minimum 6 month of ssi are on hand at all time. obama lied when claiming "drilling (oil) is at an all time high" when he hasnt issued one drilling permit, the only new drilling is going on is on private land that obama cant obstruct. obama lied when in new mexico he implied that he sealed the borders - "they wanted a wall so I built em a wall" knowing full well there is less then 300 miles of wall on a 2300 mile border. Need more gt? ok - "if you like your current health plan you can keep it" and a recent gem - unemployment down to 8.1% - fuzzy whitehouse math - REAL unemployment being around 11%
Romney is a liar!And the list just keeps growing and growing .....
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/12/1082975/-EVERY-Romney-Lie-In-One-Place-UPDATED
By Yosef 52Follow
Many thanks to Yosef 52Follow for all his efforts keeping up with all of Romney's lies!
Check out all of Romney's lies right here.
Here is Romney lying about his own first name: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney lying about defense spending and falsely claiming Obama has made "huge" cuts in the defense budget: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney's staff gloating about his TV ad lying about Obama and the economy: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney's outrageous lie that Obama has increased the national debt more than all other presidents combined: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney's lie about his plans to give huge tax cuts to people like himself:
http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney's infuriating lie about President Obama's so-called "Apology Tour": http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney's lie about his father and Martin Luther King: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney's astonishing, brazen lie that President Obama is responsible for ALL the job losses in the recession: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney caught lying by Rachel Maddow about his "Obama made the recession worse" remarks: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney lying about the activities of his SuperPac in Iowa: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney's shockingly brazen lie that President Obama's objective is "equal outcomes" for all people: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney in full, lying sociopath mode after his win in New Hampshire:
http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney lying about his record on gay rights: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney lying about the President's healthcare law: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney's lie about the President's so-called policy of "appeasement": http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is how Romney's lies fit into a general pattern of sociopathy: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney lying right to David Corn's face about something Romney said that Corn heard PERSONALLY: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney lying about President Obama's trade policies: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney lying about the "savings" that would come from repealing the healthcare law: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is a CONSERVATIVE commentator talking about the tissue of pathetic lies that is Mitt Romney's stump speech: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney AGAIN lying about Obama's defense policy: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney lying about his "regular guy" status, including his AMAZING lie that he has feared getting a "pink slip" notice himself: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney claiming that anyone who questions his business tactics is "attacking the free enterprise system": http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Jon Stewart nailing Romney's lies and deceptions about the tax code: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney's lie about President Obama having "raised" the corporate tax rate:http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney claiming he pays a 50%(!!) tax rate: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney's lie about President Obama and rocket attacks against Israel: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here are Romney's lies about his "job creator" record: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney's BLATANT lie that Gingrich "outspent him" in South Carolina: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney's lie about President Obama's record on regulations, a lie of ASTONISHING magnitude: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney lying about social programs that aid the poor: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney lying about his "blind trust": http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney attempting to take credit for an auto bailout he OPPOSED: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney lying about his intentions for Social Security and Medicare: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney lying about the birth control ruling: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's an item about the vicious, lying, right-wing hitman that Romney has hired to spread lies about Willard's opponents: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney CONTINUING to tell the lie that "Obama made the recession worse": http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney calling himself "moderate" and "progressive" in 2002:
http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney lying about his position on climate change: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney lying about his "Mexican" background and his jobs record: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney lying about Medicare: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney trying to rewrite the history of the auto bailout AGAIN: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney lying about defense policy in general and the Navy in particular:
http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney's lying claim that he has never changed his position on immigration:http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney's incredibly vicious lie that President Obama has "fought against religion": http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney lying about sanctions on Iran: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here is Romney's fictional account of his time as governor of Massachusetts: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here are Romney's INCREDIBLE lies about his record on abortion rights: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney lying about his own "memories": http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney caught lying, on videotape: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney's lie about President Obama being a "crony capitalist": http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney lying about Obama and Iran--AGAIN: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney's utterly dishonest taxation and budgetary proposals: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney lying about Obama and Medicare AGAIN: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney lying about the minimum wage: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney's absurd lie that President Obama "wants" higher gas prices:
http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney's Etch-a-Sketch moment: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Rachel Maddow's epic takedown of Romney the Liar: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney the Liar trying to be evasive about his tax and budget plans: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney's attempt to bury his contribution to an anti-gay hate group: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Team Obama holding Romney accountable for his lies: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney being nailed for his incessant flip-flops: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney lying about Medicare AGAIN: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney being caught lying on tape (again): http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney being skewered by SNL: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney's lie about Obama and Harvard: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Here's Romney lying about unemployment among women: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
And here is Romney being ridiculed in a very catchy song: http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/...
Absolutly the fate of our nation depends on defeating not only obama but maintaining the house magority AND breaking the democrat stranglehold on the senate. I feel bad for Romney - look at the disasterous mess he's going to inherit. Recovery begins WITH OBAMAS DEFEAT
Yes - PC this is the most important election in our life-times. Make sure EVERYONE understands how the unemployment numbers are calculated so dog crap can't be turned into honey.
BLS dot org.
The U6 Rate. Read it people - learn it. Vote him out.
If the stranglehold on the Senate is ever to broken by either party, they will need sixty votes. The Republicans have taught anyone who has paid attention that 51 is no longer a majority in the Senate. The new 'fillibuster proof' majority is 60. And if the Democrats are in the minority, they will certainly use the fillibuster against McConnell as he has used it against the Democrats.
Ad then McConnell will whine and moan about it, like the true hypocrite he is.
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a Sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. ...Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that 'the buck stops here'. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and Grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."
SENATOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, MARCH 2006
The good fate of our nation depends on President Obama being re-elected as our President. Our ill fate will be a Republican win.
Obama/Biden 2012
President Obama was pitch perfect today in Ohio!
Grade A !
It is time to clean the House of Representatives of the gunky teapartiers, and get President Obama a congress who is responsible with their commitment to America's best interests.
Obama/Biden 2012
It's an F and you know it.
President Obama deserves an A+ for having to tolerate the obstructionists of the congress. I am very happy with President Obama and I am proud of him. He is a class act and you know it!
wrong Dumelizabeth - obstructing obamas bad policies is exactly what the GOP should be doing
No, PC, what the GOP should be doing is everything possible to get America back to work. I always believed that the business of the GOP was business. Now it's strictly politics with no regard for anything but regaining the White House.
Nope, you are wrong PC - I approve of President Obama's policies! That's why I voted for him the first time and will vote for him the second time.
President Obama is such a fine leader. I am grateful for his leadership, I would not want to be in his position - to have liars spewing garbage about me daily and yet doing good for ALL Americans!
The last thing obama is elizabeth is a leader - he is incompetant - thats plain for anyone to see - but his worst and treasonist act was the poisoning of this country with the disease of class envy obama has ginned up among the gullible - a true leader unites - obama has divided this nation more then any president in our history
Grading Obama's achievments, are we? Great!! OK...
Getting Bin Laden: A+ Best acheivement of all, no question...and the rest...well...
Record debt: A+
Constantly High Unemployment: A+
Our First-ever Credit Downgrade: A+
GDP Being Outpaced By Our Exponential Debt Which Is The Worst In History: A+
Housing Crisis: A+
Class Warfare: A+
Race Warfare: A+
Gender Warfare: A+
Unconstitutional Health Care Mandate: A+
Passing The Buck: A++
Romney has got to be the worst of the worst Republican candidates EVER. I never thought i would say that after the McCain debacle of 2008 but the Republicans outdid themselves with the bottom of the barrel candidate. He is just AWFUL. He could have god as his running mate and it would not help. WOW he is so out of touch and so UNPRINCIPLED. He is just a shill for the out on a limb extremists who have taken over the soon to be dead Republican Party. What will be left of it? They will NEVER EVER be able to win elections with an extremist not only base but entirety...EVER. Throwing overboard Grennell was just a metaphor for how much of an empty suit Romney is. There is NO comparison between Obama and him. Obama is SO SO SO far superior it's not even funny. How does a party do that to itself? It's committing suicide right before our eyes and Rubio, Christie or ANYONE will NOT help!
Are you on crack? '57 States' is the more corrupt than Nixon, more economically clueless than Carte, a bigger socialist than LBJ, and even with all the golf he plays, worse than Ford...
Only a true blue socialist could even think he is smarter than a 5th grader... He makes W look like a Rhodes Scholar...
Oh stop -Please with the foxcrap lies! How sad for you that you are blessed with an excellent (not perfect) President and you disparage him.
I will not, I will brag on him because he has done many good things in office, like getting out of Iraq, making the decision to give the go ahead in going after Osama Bin Laden, passing the Affordable Healthcare Act, signing the Lilly Ledbetter Act, ......etc. His accomplishments are numerous and will continue.
Obama/Biden 2012 Forward not backwards to failed republican policies.
it really must make you rip your hair out elizabeth that Fox is the highest rated cable news service, I can remember when all you libs just loved Fox when it was dishing dirt on Bush - you hate it now because its not shoveling democrat propaganda lie msnbc - where obamas "accomplishments" are fabricated - like the "affordable" healthcare act that will put us in TRILLION more obama debt
The primary difference between Obama and Romney is that I believe in Obama. A guy who, while campaigning for President of the United States with millions of citizens really hurting, decides he needs another mansion has demonstrated that he does not have a clue of what is going on out in the real wordl.
It didn't help Mitt when his wife Ann appeared last week with Mitt on the CBS "Morning Show" wearing a $990 silk t-shirt either.
sorry bruce - Mitt IS a SUCESS in the real world - just what we need - not some prancing narcessesist who has never made his way in the real world
How about Michelle wearing $600 to the homeless shelter?
I loved it when moocheele went "shopping" at walmart - lucky for her all those photographers just happened to be there
PC - Then why do you come to MSNBC to spew your lies? And I do not believe for one minute that fox is the highest rated. That is a lie. I don't care what survey's say, it is rigged. Why aren't you happy to stay at your lying fartnews?
I never watch the lying decievers. Roger Ailes doesn't fool me at all. You foxwatchers are a cult led by Ailes to do his bidding to vote republican. You believe the crap he demands of his broadcasters. If anyone is a hog led by a snout ring it is a foxwatcher.
. I never thought i would say that after the McCain debacle of 2008 but the Republicans outdid themselves with the bottom of the barrel candidate.
Natalie - You ain't seen nothin yet.. Wait til you see what they throw up in 2016...LOL
all sparring aside elizabeth - just look at facts - look at our debt - obama added over 5 trillion in only 3 years, obamas hcr is predicted to add 7 TRILLION more to the deficit - this truth you can read for yourself at the Congressional Budget Office web site, The D.ept of Labor web site will give you the sad truth about jobs under obama - the highest unemployment in 30 years with no end in sight. No one will ever take your "I hate Republicans" club card away elizabeth - but you need to wake and realize - for your own sake - obama was a mistake and a dreadful failure - you as a democrat should want him gone most of all.
The debt was inherited from a failed republican president.
EXCUSE US if the mess left from the previous administration isn't cleaned up yet! It has improved, but a bomb exploded and the fall-out will take more time to get straightened out. The only thing republican presidents leave in office is a screwed up and screwed over economy with wars.
NO more republicans in the White House and congress needs to be cleaned out as well.
Obama/Biden 2012
are you in a sensory deprivation tank elizabeth?? Bush left 3.8 trillion IN 8 YEARS - obama has racked up over 5 IN ONLY 3 YEARS with another 7 TRILLION expected if (God forbid) obamas health care disaster ever gets fully implemented. Wake up beth - obama is a mistake - you dems should want him gone more than anyone else
This election will be on Obama's failed economic polices. He is totally clueless. He can try to frame it anyway he wants but no one that I know that voted for this corrupt Chicago machine politico will do so again. He truely believes that you can Tax, Spend, Borrow and Debase you way to prosperity.
His campaign is using the old Marxist/Socialist slogan of "Forward"... What next "Arbeit Machte Frei"? I guess at least he is showing his true colors...
FORWARD is the Wisconsin state motto.
FORWARD is on the Wisconsin state flag.
Which is worse? Tax and spend or borrow and spend? Clinton was a tax and spend kind of guy which is why he left office leaving Bush a surplus. Republicans hate taxes but enjoy spending, so no surplus but a huge deficit and a huge I.O.U. made out to China.
did you read your own post bruce? We have never had a bigger deficit spender then obama - wake up son
No Bruce, the reason why Clinton left office with a surplus is because of the Republican controlled legislature. One must long for those good old days.
clinton owes his surplus to Gingrich
Mirage - you really need better material than that. Maybe in your neighborhood, Obama is the antichrist, but in mine he is doing just fine. People know what he inherited, what he has achieved, and what needs to be done. They expect a lot more from him, but can see right through Romney. Any nominee who has even 1 former member of Bush's administration, let alone 37, on his foreign policy team, is not a serious candidate for the WH. He is a puppet. And too dangerous to be voted in. And I like the fact terrorists are actually caught and killed nowadays. I'll stick with Obama. Thanks.
what he "inherited " is nowhere near how bad obama has made things. Most with brains now when to admit they've made a mistake
Mirage - You've been listening to Glen Beck too much. You need to get a grip on things.....
liberal bigots will never get over Beck
Romney no matter how much money it will not matter. He is an empty suit and throwing overboard this guy Grennell was his first BIG error. It shows you how horrendous Romney is. He threw a long time loyal Republican supposedly expert (well I challenge that but just saying) in foreign policy overboard Grennell who was gay because some two bit racist bigot religious fanatics scared the *&^% out of him shows you what this guy is and what the party has become.
Yes, Natalie, but you know that the Republicans are insisting that he left the Romney campaign voluntarily. When you stop laughing, I've got a few more doozies for you.
Romney did not defend him publicly in the face of bigotry from the far right of his party. He just caved and then made up some lie. Yeah, that looks like a guy you can trust to make his own decisions on international and domestic issues. He is a puppet. That's why Karl Rove is going to bat for him. He knows a stooge when he sees one.
So what is ACORN calling themselves? We need to stop them as well. Too many dead people voted last time.
Acorn? Shouldn't you be bringing up Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers around about now?
Get some new material...
why - because the wright and ayers issue was ever vetted - obama is finally getting the scrutiney he deserves - even his sycophant media cant white wash him anymore
It is time for a change, a big change. I'd vote for Pinnochio before I'd vote for Obama and go through another four years with him as our President. Vote for change, send him back to Chicago.
Prism:
If you are suggesting another 1 trillion in debt to support yet more tax cuts for the super rich, in addition to the 4 trillion in debt if the Bush Tax Cuts are left in place?
What big change were you expecting, America looking more like Venezuela if the Rich Guy were elected?
Hoping you are freakishly wealthy and can support yourself and your clan without Medicare and Social Security. Maybe that is why immigration to the USA is drawing to a close.
Electing Rich Guy Romney is a symptom of the USA in decline.
I thought you were going to bed Prismisnolady?
Don't concern yourself with my votes. Why don't you go back to your fartnews where there are no facts?
Hey Prism - Mittens is gonna lose big....New polls show Obama leading!!!!!!
http://nationalpolls.com/
Here's an "impressive" list of Obama accomplishments!
drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
Health Care Reform Law.
office, 90 to date & counting.
NOBAMA2012..... Time for a REAL Change, and then we'll have Hope!
America isn't a Christian Nation--and I doubt Obama is the first president to say that.
DLP4, it would help your argument if you were to provide a link or links to independent sources. Should be easy enough to do, as I'm sure you researched each of these claims thoroughly.
$102,000 for the dog trainer might be a stretch and the twenty-two servants for Mrs. Obama might be out there as well, and the other claims are pretty wild too, so links would be helpful.
DLP4, my curiosity got the better of me so I googled Obama Dog Trainer and found out that the lady who trained Bo, the Obama's dog did in fact earn $102,000 in 2010 from a list of clients that would be a pretty good who's who list of Washington D.C. dog owners. Of course, your statement implies that she was paid $102,000 by the Obamas alone which is not true. You also state that taxpayer dollars paid for the dog trainer's cost. Sorry, but again not true. The Obama's paid the trainer from their own funds. And by the way, the dog trainer died in January - just thought you'd like to remember her in your prayers.
DLP you are a LIAR! Nothing you have said is true. You list is void of all the facts and some is just plain made up.
Obama/Biden 2012
please debunk them elizibeth - be sure to add your proof
Yes, elizabeth, do tell.
Your list is too long to debunk item by item. But for starters, it is a lie that Obama has taken more vacation time than any other president. www.factcheck.org/2010/01/president-obamas-vacation-days/
The "czar" thing is utterly ridiculous.
www.factcheck.org/2009/09/czar-search/
President Obama has Not issued an Executive Order on the Dream Act, or any other immigration policies.
www.factcheck.org/2011/07/did-obama-enact-dream-act/
He is not the "First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records"
www.factcheck.org/2010/01/clueless-columbo/
Since you won't/can't provide any corroborating evidence to back up any of your claims, and many have already been debunked, your long list of lies will not be taken seriously.
If Mitt Romney is well spoken and sharp as either Ronald Regan or Bill Clinton, he will be able to unseat the sitting President, Obama. Having watched Mitt Romney for nearly four years on TV, I seriously doubt whether he can be any where close to Ronald Regan or Bill Clinton in charm or intellect. Both Ronald Regan and Bill Clinton were also masterful at connecting with common folks and Romney is totally incapable of doing that. My guess is that by late October we will be talking about how Romney could avoid a disaster.
also - obama is the lowest of low hanging fruit - all Romney has to do is not get caught up in the democrat bullsh&t like "the war on women" nonsense and just keep obamas record of failure and deceit on the front burner - so many have awakened out of their obama trances
Romney's biggest problem will be the debates. He has taken opposite positions on too many issues and will likely forget which position is the most recent.
Two come to mind; he was pro choice before he started campaigning this year and suddenly switched to anti-choice. He said he would never ever have bailed out GM, but now that the plan worked, he has become neutral.
A third was his comment that going after bin Laden would be too expensive - maybe he thought the only way to get someone (Saddam, for instance) is to invade a sovereign nation. He now has joined with other Americans in offering thanks to Seal Team Six for ridding us of this evil terrorist - without mentioning who gave the go ahead, of course.
So, yes the debates should be interesting.
MSNBC has finally gotten it correct, "Frame a Campaign" says it all.
Supporters of Mitt. All I ask is that you tell me succinctly what you think he's going to do to change things.
Obama hasn't lived up to all his campaign promises, but I believe there were many reasons he couldn't, including the most dysfunction congress of all time.
And I do think being a Mormon is an issue because it's such a wackadoodle religion. I don't trust his judgement if he can believe in the Mormon bible.
Only a blind DA or the communist minded will vote for this idiot this time around. I have been keeping track of Obama's failures and plan to post them frequently when we get closer to the election. This man is intentionally destroying this country and he has to be stopped. No Bama 2012.
Please Scot, we can't afford to wait until closer to the election. If this guy is intentionally destroying this country we have to know the details now!
Scot - Save your lying posts from fartyfoxnews. It is not credible.
It makes elizabeth crazy that Rassmussenand gallup rate Fox as one of the most credible news outlets on the air
I'm in shock that anyone who is sane could stand behind this man. He is bringing socialism or corporate Fascism to our great country. He is destroying the constitution as bush did. Do u like being told what to think, what to eat, what to feel. What is wrong with us? Blind loyalty. For once we need to think long term and big picture. Socialism is not a good thing. It destroys free thinking, it destroys free markets, it destroys creativity and it is destroying AMERICA. Please vote Ron Paul a true American.
how did Bush destroy the Constitution?
The Patriot Act was a pretty good start. It kind of ignored that pesky Fifth Amendment nonsense.
absolutly false bruce - try again - now the federal government mandating we have to buy health insurance - THATS unconstitutional
Here's an "impressive" list of Obama accomplishments!
drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
Health Care Reform Law.
NOBAMA2012..... Time for a REAL Change, and then we'll have Hope!
great post - please keep it on all threads from now until election day, DLP4
DLP,
Another factless poster who took some radical post to the usual "copy and paste" mode.
DLP, do you have an original thought, or any links to back up your so-called "facts"??? Of COURSE you don't!!
why dont you counter anything on the list freckled demon?
The last one is kind of funny. The Obama's hired a dog trainer for Bo, the family dog. The dog trainer may or may not make $102,000 as reported by some blogger in Dallas, Texas - without citing a source, of course - but in any event the lady dog trainer has many clients and might well make that much per year.
The blogger's implication is that all $102,000 came from the Obama's and from taxpayer money. If all of the dog trainer's clients were federal employees (highly unlikely) her fees would technically come from taxpayer money. But again, the Dallas blogger does not cite a source for anything,
Obama's salary is from taxpayer money but his book royalties and other income are not. Odd there is no claim that Bo was purchased by taxpayer money but his training is? By the way, the lady dog trainer died in January.
DLP - Stop taking up so much space with your Lies! you are telling bald face lies! I guess by your lying that you have never spent one day in church!
Obama/Biden 2012 Forward not Backwards to the same failed republican policies
DLP4 and PC/NOT, comment spamming is a COH violation and posting viral emails is in violation of your user agreement. To plagarize the work of others is a serious offense. You are required to provide a link to your source and block quote the comments of the original author. See you on the ban/suspension list! ;-)
Obama/Biden 2012
uh oh - moms mad
See post 37.7 debunking many of these patently false claims. Repeating it over and over does not make it true.
Dumbama, what an idiot!
Obama, the great liberal social experiment, a failure! At least Romeny understands commerce and has worked in private enterprise. Obama on the other hand has been on the public teat since day one and been mentored by radicals (Wright) and anarchists (Ayers), Obama's one skill .... pandering! Nobama, End of An Error 2012!
Tired, the Wright and Ayers stuff was probably effective in 2008 during the first campaign. However, Americans have had 3+ years to form an opinion of Obama as President and some like him and some don't.
This year it is Romney who is the unknown who is telling Americans that he wants 500.000 new jobs added each month and wants the unemployment rate to be around 4%. He has left out a few details how he intends to accomplish these things and Americans will be much more interested in his plans than what the Reverend has been up to lately.
Bruce, what was true in 2008 about Obama is true today. He has only gotten worse with age!
The obamanation has been campaigning for the last four and a half years, demanding socialist changes to our contitution and just now he says he is going to frame it?
My God when are the sheeple going to wake up!
S. Ulmer, how can a president, any president, change our Constitution, socialist or otherwise? I'm sure you've read the Constitution and are aware that it takes a majority of the States to approve a proposed Amendment, right?
it has been happening and is happening by exucutive order and laws passed without media notification and/or compliance. the fact that you don't hear about it is the real reason you need to be alarmed. the obamanation has signed into law several bills including three that allow him to declare martial law without the approval of congress.
he has given the IRS the authority to confiscate firearms of anyone only suspected of owing taxes, and that confiscation is permenent, even if cleared the citizen may never have firearms again.(MAP-21)
a law (NDAA) that allows federal troops to arrest and detain law abiding citizens, and hold them without charge indefinately.
recently he signed into law one that makes public display and protest against the government a crime similar to sedition, to be used selectively on those that he feels would undermine his power.
he has the allowed various agengies to make laws that withhold the rights of Americans, both private and corporate. the natural gas industry being the latest to be attacked be his administration. he has let the EPA demand under penalty of law that production be halted, claiming tried and true methods of safely collecting the gas need to be reviewed before continuing.
He has signed into law one that gives executive control over water and power, oil and gas, allowing these things to be with held on his word, selectively or nationally.
then there is his health care law. that demands compliance under threat of imprisonment. his failed demand that churches go against doctrine, violating the separation of church and state.
look deeply into the laws passed in the last three years, all of them, and you would be suprised at the anti-Americanism that has come from the oval office.
You libtards are bye bye in 2012! There's your hope and change!
Republicans crying and moaning and holding their breath again till they turn blue. It's getting a little old. You can't win when you're all gloom and doom constantly. You' re being played for a patsy by Grover. Don't worry,Romney can be your leader right off the end of the cliff. This guy couldn't find his a$$ with both hands.
Just another in a long line of elections with my choices
being the lesser of two evils or throwing away my vote on a winner that can’t
win.
Here's an "impressive" list of Obama accomplishments!
drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
Health Care Reform Law.
Jimbo,
Sorry, you weren't the first rightie to post this steaming pile of CRAP, with no links to facts to back up your lame cut-and-paste!!
Jimbo, GOT FACTS???
Jimbo, Your Mother sucks cock$ in Hell. See? I can lie here on this vine, too!
Clue Up!
Nope! As most GOP'ers lack.
why dont you counter them freckled?
I took a shot at one of them at 43.4.
Google is great for this kind of nonsense, but too many people believe only what supports what they already believe or desperately want to believe.
Did the liars at fox send that to ya, Jimbo?
It is astounding how the so-called 'religous right' is nothing more than a bunch of LIARS! Liars are an abomination to God! I know some folks that need to start reading their Bible instead listening and repeating lie after lie about President Obama!
Obama wasted his first year in office forcing all Americans to get health insurance or pay a government penalty instead of concentrating on jobs. I was laid of after 12 years with my company and haven't found a job for the past 6 years. Most of my friends are laid off too. And people i know who do have jobs are barely getting by.
All Obama does is take lavish expensive vacations at taxpayer expense and that is not an example of cutting back and trying to reduce the national debt which is 15 trillion dollars......was 12 trillion when Obama first took office.