The Romney standard: 4 percent unemployment, 500k jobs per month

With the April unemployment report released this morning, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney told voters in Pennsylvania that the slight drop in the unemployment rate is not cause for celebration.

 

Mitt Romney set some high standards for himself in reaction to Friday's lackluster jobs report from April.

The economy added 115,000 jobs in April, a number that fell below expectations and prompted worries of a slowdown in hiring. While the unemployment rate fell to 8.1 percent, that was driven in part by people leaving the workforce.

Those numbers carry political significance, with only six months left until the election. In separate reactions to the April figures, Romney set standards that he thought represented what's acceptable.

The Romney standard, in short, would see the economy add 500,000 jobs per month. The former Massachusetts governor said that an unemployment rate above 4 percent is unacceptable.

"We should be seeing numbers in the 500,000 jobs created-per-month. This is way, way, way off from what should happen in a normal recovery," Romney said this morning on Fox News.

At an afternoon event in Pittsburgh, Romney said of the news that the unemployment rate had fallen to 8.1 percent: "Normally, that would be cause for celebration, but anything near 8 percent or over 4 percent is not cause for celebration."

The lowest the unemployment rate hit over the last decade was 4.4 percent, last achieved in May of 2007.

The high point of jobs added in the last decade came in May 2010, when the economy added 516,000 nonfarm payroll positions.

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I have a feeling that big corporations are withholding jobs so as to make Obama look bad. If Romney's elected, then they'll start creating them here but with low wages, no benefits and few regulations. If anyone thinks that these corporations who have profited so nicely in China with cheap wages are going to gladly pay someone a livable wage here, they're crazy. No way as most will have to work 2 jobs just to get by.

    Reply#182 - Sat May 5, 2012 11:24 AM EDT

    poet: I must say that from time-to-time I've agreed with you, but actually I don't believe what you suggest is going on for a couple of reasons.

    First, corporations are in the business to make money, as much money as they can make regardless of the party in power or who they hurt. (That's why I get so damned angry with these crackers on this website. They are not well enough educated to know anything about the past and present behavior of corporations to realize they're getting hurt themselves by supporting unregulated corporate behavior. But, there is nothing can be done for those people. Their hatred for blacks and minorities overrides everything else in their lives. They actually prefer death for themselves and their families before they will support a black president.) Now, I'm not opposed to corporations as long as they can be regulated.

    Second, the economy is so highly interdependent and complex that when one area is tweaked it sends consequences all through our economy and the world. For example, the largest loss of jobs in America today is the result of the cutback in government spending. The people who are affected, both military and civilian, are now out of work and are looking for work in the private sector. That, in turn, makes the job growth look like it's slowing in down which affects the stock market. That, in turn, etc.etc. etc. Let me just add a personal note.

    Romney has told the crackers he will cut government spending to reduce the national debt. Obama is doing the same thing, but the crackers, given their lack of education and their hatred for blacks and minorities, understand (nor care) about any of it. They're not interested in the economy; their only interest is to have Obama defeated. Romney and his advisers know all this so Romney can flip flop on every issue and the crackers will vote for him anyway. The situation just frustrates educated people who are interested in the economy and the welfare of the nation.

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    #182.1 - Sat May 5, 2012 11:46 AM EDT
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    I would hardly call Romney a job creator, after all he worked for a company that used to break up companies for profit. This actually cost a lot of good paying jobs in the process. I hardly think he has any idea how to create jobs, again he is out of touch with working America!

    His figures are totally unrealistic and if his party did not continually block any recovery and jobs bills we would have more jobs NOW!

      Reply#183 - Sat May 5, 2012 11:25 AM EDT

      Romney's plan is probably achievable if you don't mind seeing a McDonald's franchise on every block (as opposed to every other block). Non-college grads need not apply.

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      Reply#184 - Sat May 5, 2012 11:34 AM EDT

      Romney is deceiving Americans with this 4% unemployment , He will in fact kill 15 million plus jobs , federal and state jobs as soon as he kills all federal programs , so if you have a degree of any kind and you are presently holding a federal or state job that has any thing to do with one of these programs you will be out of a job , unless you can do something with you hands mechanically to make a living you will be hurting ,And just look at the competion you will have ...... all of the other people that just lost their job too ! . GOOD LUCK WITH THAT .

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      Reply#185 - Sat May 5, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

      We have to remeber first,that Romneypreviously promised 4.5 million jobs over 4 years. By contrast Rick perryhad promised about 2. million. Michelle Bachmann bring up the rear only promised " Million"s.

      Now all of you good folks are probablyfamilar with the term "Pie inthe sky by abd by".

      Well here it is: At 500,000 jobs a month Romeny is now peomising 6 million jobs a year. So over 4 years,that's 24 million jobs. What kind of jobs-nooneknows. Could be Burger Kings jobs, could man int he moon jobs. Mitt head hasn't spelled that out. And parantetically -that's about Presient clinton's total number of jobs.

      At best,he wants to returnto the Clinton years-and there really is no fault inthat-who wouldn't. But where they the jobs of excesss of the over leveraged CDO's and Derviavites that drove the economy over thecliff? The clinton years had lots of excess bult in that was only becoming apparent under Bush policies necessary to bring down the debt-no necessarl ythe defict. Deficits are month to month and year toyear things.

      But romney has a serious set of obstacles to pie inthe sky by and by land.

      First off theBush tax cut expire whenhe takes office-and there's almost n ochance of extesion without a grandb argain put inBEFORE Romney is inaugrated. And why would anyone want to do that-after all they made Obasm's life hell-why givwe Mitt head an evwen break?

      More over what doDemocrat get in return-absoltuely nothing.

      So the rates go up to 35% again-whichisn't bad-after all those were the CLINTON rates-and sicne Romeny aspires to be Clinton 2-heshould be comfortable with that. If it worked for Clinto nwhy not Romney?

      Second point is tax cuts don't ework. Every time romney opens his mouth to complain about theeconomy what he reallyunder scores is the tax cut have beena faiure. Notjust thebush cuts-the payroll cuts, the job creationcuts,thesmall busness breaks. the list is practically enld less.

      IF TAX CUTS WORKED WHERE ARE THE JOBS?

      iT'S THAT SIMPLE.

      Next is jobs for what? Jobs raking leaves are not the same as high tech manufactuing. Keepinmind McDonald's today is classified as manufacturing. Was so underbush too.. The nextpointis payforjobs-minimum wagews jobs can't support families-that whywe have 2 or three income families.

      And manufactuing pay has gone down, not up. And without that yo uhave no consumtion growth-keep in mind 70% of the economy today is consumer driven. It's hard topsee how right to work laws are going to increase cosumer income or disposable incime.

      Ina word, Romney's promises are doomed failure. Not since 1965 nas they been 4% unemplyment-and that was a nationat war.

      Romneyis pie inthesky byand by.

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      Reply#186 - Sat May 5, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

      Are we all aware of Romney's failures in Massachusetts? Or are we all just going to ignore his record because he is not "THE BLACK GUY"? He not only made Massachusetts #47 in job creation, but he also eliminated necessary public sector jobs to make himself look good in his bid for the presidency. And he did not decide not to seek re-election, the Republiscum party decided for him. And just recently he took the #2 fast food chain in the world (burger king) and turned it into the #3 fast food chain in the world in less than 3 years. And under his watch, the Summer Olympics would have been a failure if Bush hadn't bailed him out with 1.3 billion of your tax dollars.

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      Reply#187 - Sat May 5, 2012 12:19 PM EDT

      Whatever you want to say about Romney's record as Governor in Massachussets, he has done more in his term that Obama has done in his lifetime. Romney was able to balance the budget with an 85% Democratic legislature and leave the state with a huge surplus. Obama can not even come up with a budget without it getting shot down two times unanimously by both, yes, BOTH parties. Three years and no budget, what an accomplishment. As far as the employment numbers are concerned with Romney, the numbers were a lot lower under his term as Goevernor than the numbers now under a Democratic Governor.

      You are condemning Romney for using 1.3 billion in bailouts for the Olympics. Well, at least we saw postitive results from that. THere would not be a Summer Olympics if it had not been for his intervention. Would you have preferred that? Also, let's compare this to the tax payer's money Obama and his administration blew away on investments like Solyndra and other wasteful energy programs. We saw no new jobs, just an increase to our deficit! Try defending that one.

        #187.1 - Sat May 5, 2012 2:14 PM EDT

        Or are we all just going to ignore his record because he is not "THE BLACK GUY"?

        Yes it must be racism, there's no way it could be his failures. Oh btw everything you stated about Romney in Mass was either a lie or flat out wrong.

        For example, "made Mass #47 in job creation" you fail to mention that was from #50, a very very secure spot at #50, when he left MA was top 12 in job creation rate.

          #187.2 - Sat May 5, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

          "For example, "made Mass #47 in job creation" you fail to mention that was from #50, a very very secure spot at #50, when he left MA was top 12 in job creation rate."

          No, sorry. Nonfarm jobs increased during Romney's term by 1.3%; the national average for that period was 5.8%. Only Louisiana, Ohio, and Michigan did worse that Massachusetts in job creation during that period.

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          #187.3 - Sat May 5, 2012 7:54 PM EDT

          Lets listen to you, you argued against bush earlier when the actual article tells you youre wrong and like most libs, you dont account for 9/11 for the immediate job loss during bush's admin.

          But as far as what you said here, romney went from a horrible 50th to 47th, he didnt that by making MA a tax haven in the NE zone. He brought business to MA, make up whatever you want, but MA turn around was because of Romney.

            #187.4 - Sat May 5, 2012 8:12 PM EDT

            "you argued against bush earlier when the actual article tells you youre wrong and like most libs, you dont account for 9/11 for the immediate job loss during bush's admin"

            Umm, what? Punctuation and capitalization are your friends, and they (might) make your posts more intelligible.

              #187.5 - Sat May 5, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

              LOL thats a libs retort to the truth, 'you dont use apostrophes so ill stick to believing lies'

              what an idiot

                #187.6 - Sun May 6, 2012 11:18 AM EDT

                "what an idiot"

                Name-calling is what folks use when they can't support their arguments. My point was that your post could not be understood as you wrote it, mostly because you didn't use punctuation. And instead of explaining, you chose to name-call.

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                #187.7 - Sun May 6, 2012 11:23 AM EDT
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                Romney standard: More jobs for less money. The wal-mart pay scale for all workers!

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                Reply#188 - Sat May 5, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

                Romney throws out an unachievable fantasy number, 500K per month and how? How does he plan to handle the always long after effects of a credit-based recession, structural unemployment, the effects of a recession in Europe, effects from the Chinese economy, the poor housing market (which Romney said "let it fall"), still tight bank lending, untrained job seekers, gas prices, etc. Romney is a control freak but he has no control of hardly any of these items. Romney is an expert in only two areas: 1) lying and 2) flipping companies in the US for the 1% and sending much of the profits outside the US.

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                Reply#189 - Sat May 5, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

                He really should have low balled and just said 'hope and change'

                  #189.1 - Sat May 5, 2012 8:15 PM EDT
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                  A major drag on job creation is the continued loss of govenment jobs - this will increase, not diminish under Romney. It is necessary, and he can't stop it. Adding 500,000 jobs is not possible, even if you give every H.S. senior special classes in wearing little paper hats, and asking "Would you like fries with that?" with great aplomb. The US manufactures more, not less, than it did before 2007. Its the relationship of unskilled labor to product that has changed, and that's not going to change unless we decide to actually rationalize our national Economic (actually, we've never had a national policy) Policy and our Tax Policy. Going back to the "Good Old Days" is a fairy tale. Romney's stats at Bain Capital (what really happened at the businesses they bought into), is going to sink him when the campaign really gets going. But since Obama has finished his economic plan (the one Bush started, designed over the years by economist analyzing why the Great Depression got so bad, requiring no real thought by Obama), and has no idea what the best thing to do next is, Romney ought to be able to bring a more specific plan to the campaign that is feasible. And not create silly sound bites like this.

                    Reply#190 - Sat May 5, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

                    Why not 1,000,000 jobs a week, and -4% unemployment??? These numbers mean nothing if they are not backed with hard ideas that stand the test of questioning. Otherwise it's just rhetoric!

                    Seems to me that only Dr. Ron Paul offers any ideas backed up with more then just rhetoric.

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                    Reply#191 - Sat May 5, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

                    This all seems very unrealistic. 500,000 jobs a month? I assume he's pulling those out of his ass. And what in the hell is a "normal" recovery? Clearly Mitt is delusional.

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                    Reply#192 - Sat May 5, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

                    Mae, No, you libs are delusional if you think Obama's anti business policies and uncertaintly in the markets due to his inaction for enforcing any type of legislation for creating jobs will help improve these miniscule numbers we are seeing. At least with Romney and his experience on how the economy works based on his huge success in the private sector, we will see a much better improvement in the jobs numbers because he will actually enforce pro business polices and get rid of all the uncertainty out there that is deterring compaines from investing and growing. Romney deserves the chance where Obama has failed. I predict that when Romney gets elected, the stock market will shoot up in triple digits with the known fact that Romney will boost business by undoing everything Obama has done to stunt growth. All uncertainty caused by this administration will end!!

                      #192.1 - Sat May 5, 2012 2:26 PM EDT
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                      What was his standard when he ran for governer in Massachussetts? "I will produce so few jobs that we will rank 47th in job growth!!! Vote for me!"

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                      Reply#193 - Sat May 5, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

                      They were 50th and well beyond 49th when he took office, when he left they were at a job creation rate of 12th in the country, so what do you have to say about that?

                      Take a random number that you dont know wheer it came from and use it as propaganda, good job, youre a true liberal idiot.

                        #193.1 - Sat May 5, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

                        Read my current post #187.1

                          #193.2 - Sat May 5, 2012 2:29 PM EDT
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                          Mitt-flip experience at Bain capital a job builder? Mitt-flip the I have a dream for president Dr King would be proud. I wonder who is he going to be tommorow (Obama) Rick told you so!!!

                            Reply#194 - Sat May 5, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

                            Where is his plan to solve these "numbers" problems"? Oh, I guess we will just have to wait for his "magic" wand. He is full of crap !

                              Reply#195 - Sat May 5, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

                              When Mitt-flip started his run he was wearing loffers, then boots and by 11/6/12 he'll be wearing a full body suit. That's how deep in donge he'll be. He said he was thinking about going on SNL perfect!

                                Reply#196 - Sat May 5, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

                                Romney hasnt announced his plan yet so dont believe him. He should learn that he just has to constantly repeat the words 'hope and change' now thats something worth giving a prize for.

                                  Reply#197 - Sat May 5, 2012 2:24 PM EDT

                                  Trudat, "Hope and Change" was Obama's slogan. I can see how that worked for us. Now his new slogan is "forward". I have to laugh at what Romney said about this, If "foward" is his example of what he did the first 3 years I can only imagine what Backwards means. As far as Romney's plan, it is out there for everyone to see. Google it! It is a great plan! What is Obama's plan? What have we heard from him recently during his campaign that does not involve class warfare and his bragging about killing BinLaden. Tell us! What is this "superstar" offering us to get us out of this recession? Anyone???

                                    #197.1 - Sat May 5, 2012 2:36 PM EDT

                                    Hope and Change rhetoric was good enough for Nobel, so its good enough for the foolish left.

                                      #197.2 - Sat May 5, 2012 2:53 PM EDT

                                      Yes, very funny stuff. We will see how his new slogan "forward" will work for him since "hope and change" did not. It is more like "forward to more destruction", like another US downgrade.

                                        #197.3 - Sat May 5, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

                                        Dee Patriot,

                                        You wouldn't know what Obama has offered for his plan the next four years because you haven't been listening. Fox News (your news station) hasn't announced his plan because they do not desire being his messenger.

                                        First (the winning first step without even announcing the other steps), he will let Coporate tax cuts for Millionaires/Billionaires expire. You know, the same tax cuts Wall Street has enjoyed ever since before they fradulently sold sub prime mortgage stock CDO accounts as AAA instead of the actual BBB ratings that they were????

                                        You know, the Coporate tax cuts Grover Norquist wants to extend that 75% of the Nation is against extending Romney promised to extend for him because he has his brwon nose up his A$$ ???

                                        You know, those same Coporate tax cuts that caused our deficit to explode form ZERO in 2000 to $5 trillion in 2008?????

                                        Thi factor by itself will win him the election. Eventhough he has a 12 step plan the next four years. Obviously, you're not aware of it on FOX.

                                        Those who do not know history are condemned to repeat it.....like YOU.

                                          #197.4 - Sat May 5, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

                                          Oh, the tax cuts obama extended, yea those right.

                                            #197.5 - Sat May 5, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

                                            trudat6445,

                                            Yea.....those coporate tax cuts that won't be extended in 2012 by any party hiding behind the skirts of planned parenthood or families unemployed losing tingunemployement benefit extensions so Millionaires/Billionaires continue get tax cuts....

                                              #197.6 - Sat May 5, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

                                              First (the winning first step without even announcing the other steps), he will let Coporate tax cuts for Millionaires/Billionaires expire

                                              Tony, HAHAHA!! Talk about Romney being a flip flopper! This is the best one yet by Obama! I don't know if you remember an article posted a few months ago by msnbc no less, where Obama was considering lowering the corporate tax rate to 25 or 28% so businesses could be more competitive domestically? Now he wants the corporate tax cuts to expire? Wow! Great plan! I can't wait to hear the rest of his brilliant plan. Maybe I should stop right there! The funniest part of your post is that you think this will win him the election. All this will do is hurt businesses, discourage hiring and growth in this country. Wow! You really are delusional!

                                                #197.7 - Sat May 5, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

                                                "Obama was considering lowering the corporate tax rate to 25 or 28% so businesses could be more competitive domestically?

                                                Except that you left out the part where he wants to eliminate the majority of loopholes so most corporations would actually PAY 28%. It's kinda important to include all the information.

                                                http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-to-propose-lowering-corporate-tax-rate-to-28-percent/2012/02/22/gIQA1sjdSR_story.html

                                                  #197.8 - Sat May 5, 2012 7:57 PM EDT
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                                                  Quite a TALL TALE Delusion from a Man who while Governor of Mass. had his state ranking 47th out of 50 in the JOB CREATION category................

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                                                  Reply#198 - Sat May 5, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

                                                  I can see you do not read current posts. You just keep repeating the same thing you hear from the liberal media about Romney's record as Governor. I will not repeat myself on Romney's true record which you libs conveniently try to ignore. Again, read my post 187.1.

                                                    #198.1 - Sat May 5, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

                                                    Dee Patriot,

                                                    In response to blog entry 187.1 ;

                                                    State Legislature of (Mass.) and House of Reps. on the Hill (DC) proposed the Bills and the Governor/President signed those Bills after negotiating a process. This is the law behind the process. Get over it.

                                                    Romney has been called the flip flopper by conservatives for signing onto those democratic ideas in Mass. and simulataneously passing out Coporate tax cuts at the same time. If the State's deficit was lowered, as the jobless rate went up making Mass. 47th in job creation, as Romney erased ALL hard drive e-mails of his administration while Governor. He has a problem. And lack of honesty is definitely one of them without accountability.

                                                    Take that in your pipe and smoke it........

                                                    Obama has been negotiating the House Republican proposals for Budgets because the House proposes those Bills by law. They are the majority. So...why are you using the House minority Party as your excuse for the majority Party (GOP) who has proposed those Bills in the House by law???

                                                    You are a walking contradiction. I think you should take an American Government class at your nearest college.

                                                      #198.2 - Sat May 5, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

                                                      research the fact of the extremely low percent of unemployment in MA at that time...extremely low compared to other states...hence "new jobs"/creation rate was low as well...employers were not hiring due to high capacity of employment achieving then current business needs of the state. you dem wizards need to pull back the curtain and let in some light.

                                                        #198.3 - Sat May 5, 2012 3:46 PM EDT

                                                        Tony, I know how the Government works and I know what Romney did as Governor. You want to spin everything he did into a negative to villify Romney and his successes as Governor, courtesy of the liberal media, I am not buying it. Say what you want on the process of Romney balancing the budget and calling him a flip flopper (let's not even discuss Obama's flip flops if you really want to compare) since you have nothing else to get him on, he got the job done in Mass. What has Obama done in the first 3 years? Maybe you could take courses in "Reality'. Too bad it doesn't exist, you would have benefitted from it.

                                                          #198.4 - Sat May 5, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

                                                          blind greenbear wearing sunglasses,

                                                          Obviously you're excluding companies in Mass. and across the country shutdown by Romney's Bain Corporation who outsourced those American jobs overseas while stripping those American workers of their pensions before and after Romney's Governorship. Unless you yourself make more than a Million dollars per year or never need to work again....this would not be of importance to you. But, I guarantee you it is of GREAT importance to the majority of working America......

                                                            #198.5 - Sat May 5, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

                                                            Dee Patriot,

                                                            History is NOT spin.

                                                            Those Coporate tax cuts and the cumulative effect on the ENTIRE American economy is NOT spin.

                                                            The problem is....YOU don't care about the ENTIRE American economy.

                                                            You care about YOUR American economy because you're Republican.

                                                              #198.6 - Sat May 5, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

                                                              I care about who is the most qualified person to get jobs back in this country so we could ALL prosper. I assure you, with Obama's antibusiness policies, he is not the guy! It is not about party, it's about who has the commense sense policies that will bring jobs back! I just refuse to believe the radical idelologies from the 20% of the liberals in this country that demonize success, believe in destroying capitalization and our freedoms.

                                                                #198.7 - Sat May 5, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

                                                                Dee Patriot,

                                                                You shouldn't be so hard on yourself or the GOP calling their ideology radical...eventhough it is. It is true that a Gallup poll determined 75% of the Country is against letting those Coporate tax cuts be extended in 2012. But, this is Romney's (Grover Norquist) problem. Not yours.........

                                                                This would be the greatest factor determining Presidential qualification...

                                                                Stock up on your kleenex supply come November 2012.......

                                                                  #198.8 - Sat May 5, 2012 5:22 PM EDT

                                                                  Tony, No, I will be celebrating Obama's defeat in November. People will be voting on how they are feeling in a bad economy with no relief in sight. If you really want to go by Gallup polls, go by what percentage of the Country believes our country is headed in the wrong direction? Go ahead and look up that number! Better yet, check out the polls that compare Romney and Obama with Independents (the deciding group in any election). You will see Romney is already up 13 points with this group. Not looking too good for Obama, isn't it? The only person needing a cleenex in November is you. The rest of us will celebrate Romney's victory as the stock market rises possibly in triple digits the day after the election.

                                                                    #198.9 - Sat May 5, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

                                                                    Wow, tony is really avoiding the fact that the MA economy was 1000x better after Romney left offcie then it was when he got into office.

                                                                    Sorry tony, those are facts, you can deflect them as much as you want, but the truth is MA is one of the strongest economies in the country right now because of what Romney started.

                                                                      #198.10 - Sat May 5, 2012 7:07 PM EDT

                                                                      Or you could go by who is trusted more. Like Obama. http://www.gallup.com/poll/154007/Obama-Trusted-Romney-Leaders-Economy.aspx

                                                                        #198.11 - Sat May 5, 2012 9:33 PM EDT
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                                                                        Romney must be a fan of Dr. Seuss.

                                                                          Reply#199 - Sat May 5, 2012 3:27 PM EDT

                                                                          Sounds good. But, what't the plan? Lower taxes on the rich? Anyone who buys that again is just plain stupid!

                                                                            Reply#200 - Sat May 5, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

                                                                            Ike, No, not lower taxes on the rich like you liberals conveniently want to believe, but lowering corporate tax rates on businesses so they can become competitive, hire more people and refrain from having to go overseas to be competitive. Remember, the US currenty has the highest corporate tax rates in the world. Kind of hard to be competitive, grow and hire people in the US, don't you think? So what is your guess? Do we lower taxes or raise taxes on business? Gee, that's a tough one!

                                                                              #200.1 - Sat May 5, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

                                                                              Dee Patriot,

                                                                              Your amnesia is stunning. The Coporate tax cuts of 2001 were to spur economic growth and competitiveness for ALL AMERICA. This, according to history, did not happen.....Point blank. There is NO debate about this. It's factual. Funny thing is.....you believe those Coporate tax cuts were to be permanantly enacted forever. And if those cuts were reversed, would mean taxes were going up on Millionaires/Billionaires. This is delusional on your part (and the GOP) because it is not a raise in your taxes. It's a RETURN to what your taxes previously WERE in 2000. Taxes going up would be a new tax rate NEVER before enacted.

                                                                                #200.2 - Sat May 5, 2012 4:34 PM EDT
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                                                                                I don't think Romney actually said HE would produce half a million jobs a month and a 4% unemployment rate. I think way he said was that Obama should, or everyone should vote for him.

                                                                                Then again, he never said HOW he would rescue the economy except by reducing everyone's taxes by 20% (works for him) and balancing the budget.

                                                                                And if you believe that, you'll probably vote for him.

                                                                                  Reply#201 - Sat May 5, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

                                                                                  The fact that Romney is such a devout Mormon and can lie with a straight face does not excuse the lies and it does not make him a decent Mormon by their own standards. There is no way on this earth that ,given the mess Bush left, ANYONE could reach the numbers Romney touts. He knows that. He lies anyway. The last time we had numbers like Romney says we should have, Bill Clinton was President. Check it out. Romney can never match Bill Clinton's economic successes because they are not of the same philosophy nor on the same page. Like him or not, Bill Clinton knew how to balance a budget and he NEVER forgot the POOR or THE MIDDLE CLASS. Romney does not acknowledge the needs of either group and he could not balance the budget in Mass. When he was in private business, he outsourced millions of jobs. Sure, he can create jobs but he outsources them. What is it that people do not get about that? What Romney says and what he does are entirely different;hence, the lying. If he had any real plans that would solve America's economic woes any faster, he would be touting them. Listen carefully to him. All he does is criticize Pres Obama. Romney thinks this is a popular approach with people in general and, in particular, with the Tea Party. People are smarter than to listen to that line.

                                                                                    Reply#202 - Sat May 5, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

                                                                                    Romney does not acknowledge the needs of either group and he could not balance the budget in Mass

                                                                                    Suval, Please research your facts before you post! One of Romney's greatest successes as Governor was being able to balance the budget and leaving with a huge surplus for his state!! Three years and we still don't have a budget! Both budget proposals from Obama shot down and laughed at by both parties. Great job Obama. He could learn from Romney about budgets!!

                                                                                    We may not know what the jobs numbers will be under Romney but it will be a hell of a lot better than what we have now under Obama's failed policies! All Romney does is attack Obama? Have you been listenting to him on the campaign trail about his economic plan? Yes, he has one, a great one! You should google it. What have we heard from Obama on the campaign trail except for attacks against Romney and the 1 %. Yes, we can expect to get more of the same, speeches on class warfare and the evil 1%. He's got nothing else. Surely not a record to run on!

                                                                                      #202.1 - Sat May 5, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

                                                                                      "One of Romney's greatest successes as Governor was being able to balance the budget and leaving with a huge surplus for his state!!"

                                                                                      Not according to the incoming governor. According to him, there was a $1B deficit unless services were drastically cut when Romney left office. See here: http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO39099/

                                                                                        #202.2 - Sat May 5, 2012 9:41 PM EDT
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                                                                                        And in what country will these 500,000 jobs per month be created? Certainly not in this one if it si Romney.

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                                                                                        Reply#203 - Sat May 5, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

                                                                                        Romney is a lying, un-Christian, tax-evading draft-dodger, the FACE of the people who got us INTO this mess in the first place.

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                                                                                        Reply#204 - Sat May 5, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

                                                                                        Bottom line, politicians are going to promise whatever is going to get them elected, both democrats and republicans.

                                                                                        There are some facts that have to be faced first. You can't have a strong economy if a vast majority of your population is unemployable and can't compete in a global economy. And this is not going to change unless we decide to make education our number one priority and put our money where our political mouths are.

                                                                                        You can't have a strong economy if your primary source of income is your military industrial complex. If the only thing we can export is war and weapons, you don't and never will have a stable economy.

                                                                                        The middle class, not the wealthy, create jobs. I'm not against anyone making a billion dollars on their hard work. But the shrinking middle class cannot sustain an economy where the wealthy become wealthier due to tax loop holes and tax shelters on foreign soil expecting the middle class to pay their "fair share" and then some. The gap between the rich and the working poor just continues to get wider. Just look at the BILLIONS spent on political campaigns by a handful of wealthy donors who obviously have expectations of reciprocity should their candidate get elected.

                                                                                        But more than anything else holding this nation back is the disfunction of our government. Since the House of Representatives and the Senate...the people we elected to solve some of these issues.....can't or won't do anything, maybe it's time to demand public referendums on all issues. Single line items only. The population of the entire country voting for every proposed law. It may take a little more time even in this computer age, but we'd still get things done more efficiently and in less time than the Senate or House. When something is broken, you fix it. If this is truly the nation "of the people, by the people and for the people", this would make each and every one of us accountable for our decisions. It would force government agencies to be completely transparent and subject to public endorsemet. Would you have voted for a long, protracted war in Iraq if you had known it was based on misinformation? Would we have allowed thousands of American men and women to be killed because some people in government want a regime change?

                                                                                        And as an American people, WE would choose who our international "friends" were, not which ones offer the best personal deals for multinational corporations.

                                                                                        I know these solutions sound simplistic, but often times, in retrospect, we discover the simple solutions are the ones that work.

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                                                                                        Reply#205 - Sat May 5, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

                                                                                        Why was Romney such an unsuccessful governor?

                                                                                        Under Romney Massachusetts ranked 47th in job creation. Massachusetts was one of just four states that by the time of the financial crisis still had not recovered all the jobs they had lost during the 2001 recession.

                                                                                        Over the entirety of Romney’s term in office, the ranks of Massachusetts’ employed increased by 1.4 percent. However, that was far slower growth than the national average, 5.3 percent.

                                                                                        The media needs to ask why Romney's business background didn't result in a job boom in Massachsetts.

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                                                                                        Reply#206 - Sat May 5, 2012 7:18 PM EDT

                                                                                        Umm, because you made those numbers up

                                                                                          #206.1 - Sat May 5, 2012 8:16 PM EDT

                                                                                          Why don't Conservatives ever know the facts or even know how to find the facts?

                                                                                          From WaPo:

                                                                                          As Massachusetts governor, Romney had an unremarkable record on jobs

                                                                                          In addition to informing us that Massachusetts ranked 47th in job creation, the article says:

                                                                                          Many state policymakers and economists say Romney struggled to apply his business expertise to Massachusetts’s problems during his tenure.

                                                                                            #206.2 - Sat May 5, 2012 8:44 PM EDT

                                                                                            Facts are like science, which no Republican will accept unless you can find it in the Bible. Next, you will be trying to tell us that the earth is round. We all know that Columbus fell off the edge of the earth, and never discovered America.

                                                                                              #206.3 - Sun May 6, 2012 1:38 AM EDT
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