First Thoughts: Weak jobs report helps Romney get back on message

Another weak jobs report helps Romney get back on message … But Obama leads in Virginia and two words – gender gap. It’s tough to see a great path to 270 for Romney without winning Virginia. … Is McDonnell veep possibility hurt by good VA economy? … The 17 “Swing Markets” – Obama’s going to two of them this weekend … China became the political story yesterday … Romney and religion, the need to coalesce but reach out to swing voters … Santorum, Romney meet, but no endorsement expected today … Romney addresses Grennell … and Lugar’s last chance: the last big weekend of campaigning in Indiana. It’s statesmanship vs. the Tea Party (and the Tea Party’s winning).

NBC’s Chuck Todd, Domenico Montanaro, Natalie Cucchiara, and Brooke Brower

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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney speaks during a campaign event in Chantilly, Virginia, on May 2, 2012.

*** Another weak jobs report helps Romney get back on message: The bin Laden anniversary, a secret trip to Afghanistan to announce staying in that country for 10 more years and simultaneously the ending of the war as we know it, a diplomatic crisis, a presidential candidate drops out, and the latest report on the most important number this election – unemployment. All in a week’s work. It was another weak jobs report. Just 115,000 jobs were added, though the unemployment rate dropped to 8.1 percent,” and CNBC notes that the rate dropped because there were fewer people in the workforce. It was clear in the last NBC/WSJ poll that economic optimism had flat-lined. These jobs reports do have an impact on how people view the economy. We noted earlier in the week that Romney was having a tough week because of all the national security news that dominated. This will allow him to get back on message for a month. “This is not progress. This is very, very disappointing,” Romney said this morning. The upside inside the report was the fact that job gains were revised UPWARD for BOTH February and March, accounting for SOME of the drop in unemployment. But again, the shrinking workforce is the story.

The Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd talks about the April jobs report, in which unemployment fell to 8.1 percent with the economy adding just 115,000 more jobs.

*** Obama leads in Virginia: With Romney in Virginia yesterday, the Washington Post is out with a poll poll in Virginia, where Obama leads 51%-44% over Romney. It’s the fifth swing state poll in two days – WI, FL, OH, PA, VA. What have we learned from those? Romney’s got a lot of work to do. The common denominator on all these – we thought he might get a bump after being the de facto nominee, and while he showed improvement in some places, particularly Florida, he didn’t get much of a bump out of becoming the nominee. Virginia may very well be the scariest state for Romney. If Obama wins Virginia, he could win the White House without FL or OH. If Romney loses Virginia, he doesn’t have a path if he also doesn’t win any of the swing states out West.

*** Virginia, not just for lovers, but also for candidates – but two words – gender gap: Assuming the West becomes out of reach due to the GOP’s problems with Hispanics, then Romney HAS to win one of the following four: PA, VA, WI, or MI. And of those four, Virginia is clearly the most winnable. And of all the swing states, Virginia’s was closest to the national number in 2008. And it has moved with where the country has moved from 2005 forward. “I think most would say it's a very tough path for a Republican to win the presidency without winning Virginia,” said Gov. Bob McDonnell, who appeared with Romney yesterday. “So that's why you see Mitt here last night, today and he'll be here next week a couple times. This is clearly on the top of his list. The president's here today and the president's here on Saturday, so everybody knows Virginia's in play.” Digging deeper into the Washington Post poll and one result stands out above all others: the gender gap. If you didn’t think before that the fight over transvaginal ultrasounds hurt the GOP, then simply look at this gender gap in this poll. That fight did damage to the GOP’s brand with suburban women.

*** The Swing Markets: There are swing states and then there are swing MARKETS inside those swing states. And it’s these swing markets, where you’ll not just see TV ad spending but the candidates themselves. Our ad-tracking partners, SMG Delta crunched the numbers to break down the 17 “swing markets” within the broader group of battleground states. These are the ONLY media markets in these 12 battleground states where Bush won in 2004 and Obama won in 2008. We break down the list of those places here. Interestingly, Virginia sports three of the 17 markets (including Richmond) and Ohio sports two of the 17 (including Columbus). And where’s the president going for his first two official campaign events on Saturday? Richmond, VA, and Columbus, OH. By the way, margins in media markets matter as much as whether a candidate carries it. For instance, Colorado does not have a “swing” market. Kerry and Obama BOTH won the Denver-market. Obama just won it by a MUCH larger margin.

*** China rising: We noted yesterday that the story of Chinese dissident Chen Guangcheng would become a political story, and did it ever – with Chen himself even calling into a Capitol Hill hearing. Romney criticized the Obama administration, charging that yesterday was “a day of shame for the Obama administration." Romney wasn’t very specific about would he’d do if he were president, but an aide indicated to NBCPolitics.com’s Mike O’Brien that Romney would have offered him asylum. State Department spokesman Mark Toner contended, however, “You cannot achieve political asylum unless you are outside of the country you are trying to flee.” This morning China says Chen can apply to study abroad, which seems like a way for everyone to save face. We can’t imagine Secretary Clinton leaving China without a firm deal in place.

*** Quick on the trigger: Romney rolled the dice a tad by deciding to jump on the Chen story. Yes he couched his comments with “If the media reports are true” but what if they aren’t. There’s a backstory here that no one is quite sure of. Why not wait a day? Why not wait two days until all the facts are known and the Secretary of State is back in the country? Of course, Republicans might argue that they put pressure on the administration to fight for Chen. This morning, Clinton, by the way, said, “All of our efforts with Mr. Chen have been guided by his choices and our values,” per NBC’s Sarah Blackwill. “And I'm pleased that today our ambassador has spoken with him, our embassy staff and our doctor had a chance to meet with him and he confirms he and his family now want to go the United States, so he can pursue his studies. In that regard, we are also encouraged by the official statement issued today by the Chinese government confirming that he can apply to travel abroad for this purpose.”

*** Close up: Romney was asked by local NBC Virginia affiliate WAVY if he believed his religion was part of the reason conservatives were slow to embrace him. Romney replied, “I've got great support from evangelical voters - a number of states that we had primaries in I was the leading contender.” Evangelicals were not a strength for Romney; it’s a big reason he lost South Carolina and didn’t win a single culturally Southern state. He won evangelicals in NH, MA, FL, NV, VT, MD, VA (where only he and Paul were on the ballot). He acknowledged, though, “I know there will be a narrative perhaps to that degree….” But he said, “I want all elements of our party to come together and support me, but I also have to get those folks that are the undecideds, the independent voters, women voters, Hispanic voters, young people, I've got to get them, too.” How tough has this pivot been for Romney? AP notes today that members of the Mormon Church are nervous about the church coming into the spotlight, having again to defend the church amidst “vetting” that “will take place amid the emotion of what may well be a nasty general election.”

*** McDonnell hurt by good VA economy ironically? McDonnell noted yesterday that Virginia has the lowest unemployment rate in the Southeast, and he’s running sunny ads about the state of the Virginia economy. If you’re wondering how he did in the audition, he might not make as much sense now, because he throws Romney off his “bad economy” message a bit. McDonnell would argue that it’s because of his pro-business policies that have helped create jobs in the state. But it’s hard to have it both ways. "Remember three and a half years ago, we heard that tune about hope and change?" McDonnell said. "Now what do we have? We have recession, division and malaise. It’s time for a change, don't you think?" But when you peel back the onion of the Virginia economy, you realize just how much the federal government is such a vital part of the economy. Two words: defense contractors.

*** Santorum, Romney meeting but not expected to appear together publicly: Romney will appear with Rick Santorum on his home turf in Pittsburgh today, but there isn’t expected to be an endorsement and, NBC’s Andrew Rafferty reports, the two aren’t even expected to appear together PUBLICLY. Santorum is really running out of political capital here – whatever’s left of it. Even Michele Bachmann, who once said Romney couldn’t beat Barack Obama, endorsed him yesterday. As AP’s Phil Elliott pointed out, Santorum endorsed Jon Bruning yesterday in the Nebraska Senate primary, but still hadn’t yet endorsed Romney. Romney holds an event at noon ET. The last time Pittsburgh hosted one of these meetings was for Bush-McCain.

*** Romney addresses Grennell – ‘wanted him to stay’: Mitt Romney address the Richard Grennell controversy for the first time this morning on FOX. “We wanted him to stay with our team,” he said, per NBC’s Garrett Haake. “He's a very accomplished spokesperson. We select people not based on ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation... We select based on ability.”

*** Big weekend of campaigning in IN and WI: It’s the last chance for Richard Lugar to turn the tide in his bid to retain his Senate seat against upstart Tea Party challenger Richard Mourdock, the state treasurer. Bloomberg today sums it up – pitting Lugar’s “statesmanship” against Mourdock’s fight for conservative purity. In Wisconsin, two Democrats – Kathleen Falk and Tom Barrett have their last chances to sell Democrats on why they would be best to take on the well-funded Gov. Scott Walker, in the recall fight. Barrett is favored by double-digits, according to a poll out Wednesday.

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"Romney wasn’t very specific about would he’d do if he were president, but an aide indicated to NBCPolitics.com’s Mike O’Brien that Romney would have offered him asylum. State Department spokesman Mark Toner contended, however, “You cannot achieve political asylum unless you are outside of the country you are trying to flee.”

Duh.....what high school civics class doesn't know that? Does Romney have any idea how many people in other countries would be demanding political asylum right now if all you had to was ask for it while you're still inside the country you want out of? I get this image of Romney with the microphone a la Bob Barker - "Hey, everybody, come on down!"

Then again, maybe this article should have stopped at the first sentence:

"Romney wasn’t very specific about would he’d do if he were president"

  • 7 votes
Reply#27 - Fri May 4, 2012 9:59 AM EDT

Then why do we grant illegals in our country asylum?

    #27.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:14 AM EDT

    Really! Romney should be deported back to Mexico ASAP!

    • 3 votes
    #27.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:23 AM EDT

    Mr. Romney favors asylum/immigration only when he thinks he can use it for gratuitous or malicious criticism of the President.

    • 3 votes
    #27.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:47 AM EDT

    JoAnne - This is another chimera Romney is trying to grab and create substance where none exists.

    China would like to wipe their hands of Chen Guangchen, send him off to the U.S. and let the U.S. deal with him.It was Chen who wanted to stay in China and continue his activism against China policies. Just without the harassment. Once he was in the hospital,I think he started to realize that wasn't going to happen. (Like all couples, I suspect it took his wife to point this out ;~)

    Chen realizes that once he leaves China,he loses much of his voice for his cause. But now China wants him out too - they just need to save face while doing so. Allowing him to study abroad solves all the issues.

    Like his "Soviet Union" stance, Romney only seems comfortable creating tension and opposition with other countries,rather than working through issues.

    Romney just does not get the complexities of modern diplomacy.

    Great 60's soundbite though.

    • 4 votes
    #27.4 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:50 AM EDT
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    un friggin believable not one person on this entire thread can relate the rise in fuel to the decrease in jobs how sad

      Reply#28 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:00 AM EDT

      Yes the increase in gas prices is helping slow employment, that is one part of it. But why are gas prices going up? In large part due to all the inflation caused by the Federal spending of money they don't have. The cure is as bad as the disease.

      • 1 vote
      #28.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:06 AM EDT

      alan I think the bigger reason is that developing countries are using more and more energy, and of ocurse the improvement in the world-wide economy for industrialized countries.

      • 2 votes
      #28.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:09 AM EDT

      Gas is going up because Corporate Fascists and Big Oil knows this is their only chance to beat Obama.

      Keep prices high...try and piss people off and blame it all on Obama.

      It is the only strategy Rebuicans and Tea Partyers have left.

      • 2 votes
      #28.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:13 AM EDT

      Then kick the enviro-goolies in the azz and produce our own cheaper energy, until renewable resources are ready for prime time. Look our CEO said yesterday that Europe is a very large uncertainty, Experts expect a 205 down turn in productivity and also expect Germany to have to fund the euro banks with another 1/2 trillions dollars, which they might not have. Mr. Obama wants gas prices to be at euro prices, just not before the election.

        #28.4 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

        It takes about six months for a precipitous rise in the price of gasoline to have maximal impact on the economy in terms of decreased consumer spending and decreased employment.

        Of the many factors that can provoke a rise in the price of oil, the recent predominant precipitating factor seems to have been the Israeli threat to bomb Iran and the Iranian counter-threat to close the Straight of Hormuz and to strike at Israeli and American interests.

        Given the timing of the saber-rattling, the adverse economic impact of the rising price of gasoline, should that price rise hold, will come about the time of the November election.

        • 1 vote
        #28.5 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:53 AM EDT
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        I can tell by reading some of these posts that Obama and the Dems have created the biggest Straw Man Argument in history. "If only the rich would pay a little more we can all keep our entitlement programs just the way they are" This is a flat out lie! All independent and clear thinking people know this including the presidents own commission, which he chose to ignore. The sad truth is that if Obama wins and he continues to do nothing, that is continuing with his current projected spending path, we will be borrowing 65% of what we spend. Our creditors will demand higher interest rates because of our continued need to devalue our currency to pay this debt. The liberals will destroy the very programs they want to protect!!

        • 1 vote
        Reply#29 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:03 AM EDT

        Not what he said but that's all right.

        What we do know is that indivudual income tax rates are the lowest in almost 100 years and among the lowest in the industrialized world even as our defense spending is the same as the rest of the world combined. What we also know is that Bush lowered tax rates during a time of 2 wars, the first time in American history that's been done. Republican Congress was the second.

        • 5 votes
        #29.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:08 AM EDT

        Mark why are you telling me something everyone knows. If the Bush tax cuts expire the problem of entitlements still exist. "IT'S THE SPENDING STUPID" not you personally ..lol I suggest everyone go to FISCALIQ.NET take the test and learn something

          #29.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:15 AM EDT

          True JJD. It is the spending, but democrats won't compromise on spending until republicans compromise on taxes.

          The biggest problem is republican refusal to compromise on anything.

          • 2 votes
          #29.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:18 AM EDT

          The question is a simple one...."Why should rich people get more than they need and tax cuts and tax breaks they don't deserve paying tax rates lower than people making $35,000 Yr. ?"

          The Bush tax cuts were and are a complete joke.... 10 years and where are the jobs???? and yet Republicans keep up the same B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T....This is not the time to raise taxes on the job creators.

          THEY HAVEN"T CREATED ANY JOBS MORONS.... THEY PROBABLY DID WHAT MITT ROMNEY DID AND SALTED IT AWAY IN SWISS AND CAYMEN ISLAND BANK ACCOUNTS !!

          How much do they F-U-C-K-I-N-G need??"

          George Bush... An unpaid for trillion dollar war for lies and unpaid multi-billion dollar Tax cuts for the rich on top of it....and now it all Obama's fault. It couldn't be more pathetically sad.

          • 3 votes
          #29.4 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:20 AM EDT

          Mark he has not put up a budget, he even ignored his own commissions' proposal.

          Why didn't he along with Reid take what the house passed and add tax increases?

          by tabling the legislation it's actually them who are not compromising but it's being spun the other way around.. very clever

            #29.5 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:28 AM EDT

            JJD, he offered the "grand bargain" to Boehner last fall. $3t in cuts and $1t in additional taxes.

            It was dismissed. All GOP presidential candidates also said ZERO additional taxes no matter what spending cuts are offered.

            They refuse to compromise. Without compromise, nothing will happen.

            • 3 votes
            #29.6 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

            Mark he didn't put any of those cuts in writing he just agreed verbally in principal to 3t in cuts because he knew the Reps would say no tax increase. If he wanted to he could of listed this tax increases along with his cuts and actually led the way on this but he chose to play politics and not be a leader and take the heat for his proposal.

              #29.7 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:59 AM EDT

              JJD2-always with the negatives. All of your suppositions depend on the economy staying flat or shrinking. This is anti American. You hope for the demise of America to win an election? Disgusting.

              • 1 vote
              #29.8 - Sat May 5, 2012 8:35 AM EDT

              Great use of the Rovian tactic of projections, jjd2.

              "If only the rich would pay a little more we can all keep our entitlement programs just the way they are"

              THAT is the actual straw man being used all over the Conservative echo chamber. You can't turn on talk radio without hearing it...only problem is, NO DEMOCRAT HAS TAKEN THAT POSITION.

              The ACTUAL position of the President and the entire Democratic Party has been that it will take a balanced approach using a combination of revenue increases and spending cuts to fix the budget.

              That isn't just a position, it's a position that recognizes the facts of the situation. It's a practical approach that will work, if the GOPTP would let it, and one that a substantial majority of Americans favor.

              Exposing the true intentions and unwillingness of Republicans to negotiate isn't a trap, it's something that's long overdue.

                #29.9 - Sat May 5, 2012 1:29 PM EDT
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                Ron Paul 2012!

                  Reply#30 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:05 AM EDT

                  Romney is right to be talking about job creation considering the unemployment rate, but his record in the private sector is one of job destruction. As Politico detailed, Romney’s company, Bain Capital, was in the business of buying up distressed companies, slashing them to bits, and then selling them off, resulting in lots of job losses:

                  – In 1992, the firm acquired American Pad & Paper. By 1999, the year Romney left Bain, two American plants were closed, 385 jobs had been cut and the company was $392 million in debt. The next year, Ampad was forced into bankruptcy.

                  – Bain Capital and Goldman Sachs bought Dade International for about $450 million in 1994. The firm quickly fired or relocated at least 900 workers. Over the next several years, it sunk increasingly into debt and laid off 1,000 workers. In 2002 — after Romney had left Bain — it filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

                  – A 1997 buyout of LIVE Entertainment for $150 million resulted in 40 layoffs, roughly one in four of the company’s 166 workers. The job cuts affected all aspects of the company, from production and acquisition to legal and public relations.

                  – In 1997, Bain bought a stake in DDI Corp., a maker of electronic circuit boards. Three years later, Bain took the company public and collected a $36 million payout. But by August 2003, the company filed for bankruptcy protection, laying off more than 2,100 workers.

                  22 percent of the money Bain Capital raised from 1987 to 1995 was invested in five businesses — Stage Stores, American Pad & Paper, GS Indusries, Dade, and Details. These five made Bain $578 million in profit, even as all five eventually went bankrupt.

                  As the New York Post’s Josh Koshman wrote, “there’s little question made a fortune from businesses he helped destroy.” Travis Waldron noted today that Romney’s company also boosted its profits — and thus enriched Romney — by abusing offshore tax havens.

                  By Pat Garofalo

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#31 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:05 AM EDT

                  How do you abuse offshore tax havens. We over tax and do you think that your leftest comrades don't take advantage of the same thing. Follow the money trail. There is nothing illegal about it. If I had that much money, I would not want it in an bank here.

                    #31.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:20 AM EDT

                    Yay! The economy is tanking. This is good news? If one word of what Robert Draper wrote is true, the GOP should hang their head in shame. What a travesty the GOP has become.

                    • 3 votes
                    #31.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:46 AM EDT
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                    So Romney and majority of Repubs are happy unemployment fell only .1. GOP needs unemployment high, they need economy bad....that is their only hope of "making President Obama a one term president" which they stated was their highest priority after 2010 elections.

                    Boehner and the House have not done diddly squate to assit with job creation...in fact they have been obstructionists.

                    Things are better than 2009 when President Obama took office, I wish they were much better, but America is recovering slowly but surely under President Obama and Dem leadership....he will be re-elected in 2012.

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#32 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:06 AM EDT

                    I don't want any Republican or Democrat creating any jobs for me.

                      #32.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:07 AM EDT

                      alan: You may not want it but they do. The administration's values, policies, vision directly affects the economy, job market, etc.

                      • 2 votes
                      #32.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:27 AM EDT
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                      Romney's "jobs" record is dismal. He outsourced or destroyed far more jobs at Bain than he ever created. The few jobs that were created were sales clerks and pizza delivery boys.

                      As Governor, his state ranked 47th in job creation (it was 37th when he took office), the few jobs that were created, public sector outpaced private sector 6 to 1.

                      Romney is the candidate for the Wall Street hedge fund manager, not the middle class. This is evidenced by the fact that virtually ALL of his super-PAC money comes from Wall Street hedge fund managers.

                      What is Romney's economic plan? More tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy, and further deregulation of Wall Street.

                      When Obama took office, we were losing 750,000 jobs PER MONTH, thanks to those policies. We now have 25 months straight of private sector job growth. The Romney/Bush policies are a proven failure.

                      If you believe that Wall Street has YOUR best interests at heart, than by all means vote for Romney.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#33 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:07 AM EDT

                      And Obama's record is better how?

                      The ONLY jobs he can create cost taxpayers over $1.5 MILLION each, only to pay the employee $80,000 a yr.....

                      How many jobs did Obama create without having an unlimited flow of stolen cash?

                      And odd how the ONLY spending Obama is willing to cut is the defense budget and veterans benefits. I guess welfare recipients deserve more than the soldiers out risking their lives............

                      • 2 votes
                      #33.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:10 AM EDT

                      MWD4LIFE - thank you, and i will leave my comment as short and simple as that

                        #33.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 11:26 AM EDT
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                        Santorum backs Bruning in NE, yet all the major Conservative organizations fully back Stenberg.

                        Talk about an etch-a-sketch! Then again money talks!

                        I hope he doesn't publicly endorse Romney, it would be an embarrassment!

                          Reply#34 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:07 AM EDT

                          Obama will literally destroy Romney in the upcoming Presidential debates. Romney is only slightly a cut above Sarah Palin in the clueless department.

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#35 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:10 AM EDT

                          All Romney has to do is cut power to Obama's teleprompter and sit back as he stutters away!

                          Romney WRITES his own speeches, Obama READS his...........

                          www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_AAMa_X2dM

                          • 2 votes
                          #35.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:12 AM EDT

                          MWD4LIFE-

                          Romney writes his own speeches? Havve you ever actually watched an unscripted Obama press conference and an unscripted Romney interview (he doesn't do press conferences)? The difference is obvious. Obama can discuss intelligently at length whatever he is asked, Romney gets flustered if he is off his "talking points".

                          • 3 votes
                          #35.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:28 AM EDT

                          That explains why he speeches are so terrible. Debates will be great, Obama will make Romney look like a bidder fool than he already is.

                          • 2 votes
                          #35.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:45 AM EDT
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                          Although the jobs numbers are not as large as we would like, they are still a positive number unlike the negative numbers the president inherited from his predecessor. The great Bush recession will take years to completely recover from (if a complete recovery from such a horrible recession is even possible).

                          As we are learning from the lessons of Europe, massive spending cuts too soon would put us right back into a recession just as they have in Europe.

                          The answer here is not continued tax cuts for the wealthy, but a balanced approach to the economic situation with investment in America. To prosper in the 21fts century we must increase our investment in education, not decrease it has the Republicans want to. China is not decreasing their investment in education; they are on a major push in education. We cannot be left behind with stale old ideas like tax cuts for the wealthy will somehow “trickle down” and provide prosperity for the majority. The failed policies of Bush are what got us in trouble in the first place; a return to them would be masochistic at best and suicide at worst.

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#36 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:11 AM EDT

                          And we only "invested" over $3 TRILLION to get such meager results!

                          Would you stick with an investor that averaged a rate of return below .0005% per dollar invested?

                          How much will it cost for Obama to get unemployment below 7%, $500 TRILLION?

                          • 2 votes
                          #36.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:14 AM EDT

                          Th stimulus was $831 billion not "$3 trillion" it was designed to prevent the Bush recession from becoming the second great depression. It succeeded in doing so.

                          • 2 votes
                          #36.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:22 AM EDT

                          So what happened? why are 23 million Americans still out of work? Why do we have the lowest home ownership in 15 yearas. You Oblamobots need to get a new battle cry, its BUsh's fault is all worn out.

                          • 1 vote
                          #36.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:25 AM EDT

                          Thermen, how many stimulus' have we had? THREE, looking at round four here soon.

                          And do you think that THREE YEARS of unemployment insurance is FREE? And we spent over $1 TRILLION on shovel ready projects alone, not to mention the FACT that we have a record amount of food stamp recipients today. Plus INTEREST because over half that we spend is BORROWED!

                          My $3 TRILLION amount is probably quite low compared to the actual number........

                            #36.4 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:28 AM EDT

                            There was not "$1 Trillion" in shovel ready projects spending. You are making up your BS "facts".

                            • 2 votes
                            #36.5 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:32 AM EDT
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                            I just want to congratulate MSNBC on being the favorite of OBL and his flunkies and in particular Olberman their favorite announcer as listed in OBL's recently released letters. Wait to go MSNBC as though you have a feeble audience here in the states overseas in certain parts of Pakistan you have many fans. And all you who believe the unemployment rqte is approx. 8 percent should see the Rasmussen poll where it was really 19 percent. The unemplyment books will be cooked up to election day to promote a socialist agenda but don't worry McDonalds is adding a lot of jobs as the higher priced restaurants fail with the failing economy of big government socialists. I support paying a fair share of taxes. Everyone should pay the same lump sum! Being successful and working hard whould not be penalized. Then we would see government shrink and become more responsive to the taxpayers wouldn't we? As far as Obama taking credit for OBL he is a fraud as he opposed the waterboarding policies that allowed us to find the courier's name that lead us to OBL. Don't you liberals see the hypocrisy behind opposing waterboarding on moral grounds but ordering targeted assassinations of not just OBL but American citizens?

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#37 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:11 AM EDT

                            Asking to bring jobs back from China isn't going to happen. Those American businesses that have moved to China moved to China to get away from inflation.

                            As the gas prices rise because of the greed of Big Oil wanting to control America the American workers paycheck must also be increased to offset the increased raise in gas prices.

                            China doesn't have to worry about this because most of the Chinese do not own vehicles so they is no need for gasoline products that the greedy can use to control peoples freedoms with.

                            The jobs that have gone to China will not be returning...get over it.

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#38 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:12 AM EDT

                            Here is the problem for Romney and his supporters. He has no original plan. His plan is no different than Bush. Lower taxes on the rich and less regulation. Telling us what the president is doing wrong, does not tell me what he is going to do right. Last time I checked, when he was governor of MA. They were 47th in job creation. Also, he has said he is all for the Ryan budget. How is the Ryan budget going to help job creation? I wish some reporter would actually make him answer the question and give specifics.

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                            Reply#39 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:13 AM EDT

                            And Obama's was different than Bush's?

                            Hmmmm, odd how he has done the SAME THING as Bush the past four years.....

                            • Continued the unfunded wars
                            • Continued bailouts
                            • Continued spending
                            • Continued borrowing
                            • Continued spying on Americans

                            In fact he AMPED UP all that Bush did wrong!

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                            #39.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:16 AM EDT

                            I did not like Bush, di not want the wars, the Patriot Act, and especially his overall SPENDING! But Obama has now done 4 times more SPENDING in 3.5 years than Bush did in EIGHT!

                            I was mad about Bush but am FURIOUS with Obama. Going from BAD to MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH WORSE is NOT IMPROVEMENT.

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                            #39.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:22 AM EDT
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                            this is a riot, the republicans were elected in the last midterm because of the economy, they blasted Obama for ''not creating jobs''. What jobs have they created since then?Bankers and wall street maybe. Now we are to believe that they are going to create them after this election? How can anyone create jobs when they are all overseas? Why does anyone keep falling for this bs?You figure the rest out.

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                            Reply#40 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:15 AM EDT

                            How can a majority in the House of Representatives create jobs when a Senate refuses to bring their bills to the floor of the Senate for a vote, and a President threatens to VETO anything that makes it through the Democratically controlled Senate?

                            Try learning how legislation occurs before looking like a complete idiot........

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                            #40.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:19 AM EDT

                            Show me one "Jobs bill" that the House passed - just one. They are too busy passing politically motivated propaganda bills to even attempt to do any real work.

                            The Senate has passed several pieces of bipartisan legislation that the Tea-party controlled House refused to vote on.

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                            #40.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:32 AM EDT

                            The HOUSE has passed 22 bipartisan jobs bills! How many have the Senate voted on?

                            www.economicdevelopmenthq.com/blog/house-of-representatives-pass-economic-development-bills/

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                            #40.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:46 AM EDT
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                            Virginia is Federal Welfare State. The entire economy of Virginia is derived from Federal Government Largesse and Bureacracy. Virginians are nearly all dependent on Federal Government printing, borrowing, and spending. When 51% of the nation, which is what we are actually now, are dependent on government for jobs, welfare, food stamps, healthcare or whatever you have a socialist system. That is what we are now, like it or not. The Federal Government does not want healthy, prosperous, businesses because those same businesses will fight against government because the Federal Government is actually a business, but one that produces NOTHING. Taking over General Motors, and essentially General Electric as well as the home finance business and now health care only weakens our economy and forces businesses to look elsewhere to locate.

                            The USA is a doomed nation. We will never recover from the "system" that is in place now which rewards the lazy, the bums, the freeloaders, and the do nothings with the money stolen through taxes from the productive.

                            Judas Iscariot would be proud of the Federal Government. Telling people how you want to help them, the "poor" and taking (taxing the workers) from the "rich" while keeping most of the money for your self and your own interest is what Judas Iscariot was all about. The Federal Government is just like Judas Iscariot.

                            I know so many people on "disability", SSI, and welfare that it makes me angry. They could do some kind of work. My gosh, the people where I work that do the custodial services, lame, deaf, and physically handicapped BUT THEY WORK and I respect them for it. Many of them are in worse physical and mental shape those I know on "disability" and welfare. I work and do not have the cash money in the bank that these people do.

                            People, repub or dem, are NOT against a social safety net, but the largesse and abuse is now so out of control it may not be able to be reformed, let alone fixed. One "disabled" New York fireman age 36 I know gets $90,000 a year and retired to West Palm Beach, and plays raquetball three or four times a week, while the deaf, blind, and handicapped that work at the conecessions stand, and empty my trash WORK. That is what is WRONG with the "system".

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                            Reply#41 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:17 AM EDT

                            Maryland too has one of the highest per capita incomes in the nation, due in large part to direct and indirect employment of Marylanders by the federal government.

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                            #41.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 11:02 AM EDT
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                            WTF???

                            After months of listening to conservatives tell us what a terrible President Romney will be, the only way he gets higher polling numbers is if we are all suffering???

                            We're doomed...

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                            Reply#42 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:19 AM EDT

                            Odd how Clinton said the same about Obama in 08'.......

                            What do you expect the Primary rivals to hype each other up?

                            But then again, no one ever confused you as having an ounce of intelligence!

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                            #42.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:23 AM EDT

                            Romney never polled above 28% throughout the primaries, Santorem even said, "Obama would make a better President".

                            Tough to be called unintelligent by someone who thinks the news and information he gets is truly, "Fair and Balanced"...

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                            #42.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:30 AM EDT

                            "Lifting whole passages from someone else's speeches is not change you can believe in, it's change you can Xerox."
                            Hillary Clinton

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                            #42.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:42 AM EDT
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                            all our jobs are in japan and china keep buying there junk and cars they are laugh all the way to the bank they own the usa people in the us are stupid blame every one but yourselfs

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                            Reply#43 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:19 AM EDT

                            Quick, run an osama bib laden ad claiiming obalmer was actually in the raid and took the kill shot...

                            What a maroon obalmer is. See the ad by the veterans? They know this guy is a show boater and hate it as well they should. How many of you yahoos even know about the disclaimers obalmer put out putting all the onus on the admiral in charge of the mission for any failure. No one I'll bet. But it'll be part of the next ad for certain.

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                            Reply#44 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:19 AM EDT

                            Feisty it alwasys amazes me how all the negatives of the Oblamo Administration you some how try to spin it on some one else. Give it up lemming, the annointed one is going down. 38 months if the highest sustained unemployment since the depression, 23 million Americans out of work. Lowest home ownership in 15 years, you dumcrat lemmings drink to much of the Komrade kool aid.

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                            Reply#45 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:20 AM EDT

                            In 2008' Obama ran on the campaign that Bush created the worst economy ever.

                            Today when that economy is just as bad, Obama runs on the campaign that the President has no control over the economy......

                            Hypocrisy, thy name is Obama!

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                            Reply#46 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:21 AM EDT

                            Except that the point of the weak jobs market is not the president's doing -- in case one hasn't been following the world news, there is crisis EVERYWHERE -- even China's economy is slowing -- and we HAVE to sell things outside the US to increase demand enough to warrant new hiring. Secondly, any infrastructure work -- which is definitely needed and would stimulate job growth -- would require MORE government spending, and our Congress is responsible for that stall. Anything Mitt Romney might want to do (and I would say it's definitely easier to armchair quarterback than be on the field), would be tempered by these SAME CONDITIONS. Switching presidents now is absolutely pointless. And I truly do not believe that an Republican president in 2008 would have been able to do ANY BETTER.

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                            Reply#47 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:22 AM EDT

                            The jobs report only helps Romney if you are uninformed or ignorant of revelant FACTS!

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                            Reply#48 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:22 AM EDT

                            What that the economy is heading south? You mean that fact?

                              #48.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:23 AM EDT

                              You mean facts like.....

                              1. America now has a record number of welfare recipients
                              2. Unemployment only falls because our labor market is shrinking, meaning most will NEVER go back to work because there is NO WORK
                              3. Unemployment only falls because many have been out of work for MORE THAN THREE YEARS, and have now exhausted their taxpayer funded benefits
                              4. The 2011 tax receipts was only enough to fund, S.S. Medicare, The interest on our debt, and Medicaid. EVERYTHING ELSE is paid for by BORROWING from other countries!

                              Yea and the jobs report is merely the cherry on top of the Obamanation Sunday.......

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                              #48.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:35 AM EDT
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                              BY the way oblamobots Osama didn't like FOX, but liked MSNBC, CNN,and CBS, thats says it all right there.

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                              Reply#49 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:22 AM EDT

                              Even Osama Bin Laden liked to get real facts not political commentary.

                                #49.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:35 AM EDT

                                Didn't Osama call the right wing nut cable news network, "dumb FUX NEWS"???

                                Anyone with half a brain, can't take the constant bulllshiit tag lines they spout every 5 minutes, "Fair and Balanced" or "We report, you decide"...

                                I bet 80% of the folks watching Dumb FUX NEWS haven't figured out how to eat a diet low in fat, salt and sugar and prefer to be fat to prove how right they are over the healthy living liberal brainwashing scientists...

                                  #49.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:41 AM EDT

                                  Odd how FOX News channel's rating are MORE THAN CNN, MSNBC, and CBS COMBINED.

                                  I guess the majority of American's are "dumb fux" in your eyes..........

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                                  #49.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:51 AM EDT
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                                  Weak job reports are outstanding when compared to reintroducing Republican ideology that led to massive job loss. Besides, Republicans have done everything within their power to oppose job creation for the very purpose of defeating Obama. Unemployed Americans, thank you for your family's sacrifices for the political strategy of Republican Party. If they succeed, you will gain a lot of soul mates.

                                  Republican wealthlife preservation is a national charity.

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                                  Reply#50 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:24 AM EDT

                                  Yeah 23 million Americans out of work, keep drinking the lemming komrade kool aid.

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                                  #50.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:26 AM EDT
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                                  Oblamobots---------highest sustained unemployment since the depression. 38 months and greater than 8%. Lets see how long has Oblamo been president oh thats right 38 months.

                                    Reply#51 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:28 AM EDT

                                    Gee, and Hoover solve the unemployment problem caused by the Great Depression in 6 months too...When are people going to realize that since this is the worst global economic downturn since the "Great Depression" that it will take 5 to 8 years to recover...

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                                    #51.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:35 AM EDT

                                    When will people realize Hoover didn't DOUBLE our deficit to get us out of that recession.

                                    Obama merely created a bubble to keep us afloat until 2012, after that bubble pops then the recession will look like a cakewalk........

                                      #51.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:54 AM EDT
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