Romney foreign policy spokesman resigns

Mitt Romney's foreign policy spokesman resigned on Tuesday, the former Massachusetts governor's campaign confirmed.

Richard Grenell, who spent just a couple of weeks as a staff member for Romney, submitted his resignation, campaign manager Matt Rhoades said in a statement.

"We are disappointed that Ric decided to resign from the campaign for his own personal reasons," Rhoades said. "We wanted him to stay because he had superior qualifications for the position he was hired to fill."

Grenell had earned a reputation in his career as a feisty figure in interactions with reporters. He is also openly gay, and a Washington Post account of Grenell's resignation suggested the campaign might have faced a backlash due to his sexuality.

"While I welcomed the challenge to confront President Obama’s foreign policy failures and weak leadership on the world stage, my ability to speak clearly and forcefully on the issues has been greatly diminished by the hyper-partisan discussion of personal issues that sometimes comes from a presidential campaign," Grenell told the Post. "I want to thank Governor Romney for his belief in me and my abilities and his clear message to me that being openly gay was a non-issue for him and his team."

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"He is also openly gay, and a Washington Post account of Grenell's resignation suggested the campaign might have faced a backlash due to his sexuality. "

Willard and his homophobic base!

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#1 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:13 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBackhouseExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

There is no evidence of "weak leadership" from our President and this guy knows it and the world knows it.

It's about patriotism.

Removing Bin Laden was a NATIONAL WIN FOR AMERICA.

About the GOP party leadership, I would ask Grenell - gay or not-gay:

GOT BIN LADEN?

  • 129 votes
#1.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:17 PM EDT
Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

You think not knowing his ass from a hole in the ground had something to do with it?

Maybe Marcus Bachmann is looking to hire a few good men - Ric should send him a resume!

  • 76 votes
#1.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

I agree completely. Romney is a fraud. A jokester....an Olympian Flip-Flopper, maybe of all time....Obama used his own words against him. He simply cannot etch-a-sketch his comments away......

  • 130 votes
#1.3 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

Feisty -

I think the problem was more that "Grenell had earned a reputation in his career as a feisty figure".

Everyone knows conservatives are afraid of "feisty" figures!

  • 76 votes
#1.4 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:33 PM EDT

Gotta love the Repubichairs - "While I welcomed the challenge to confront President Obama’s foreign policy failures..." but then as soon as he mentions his successes (ending Iraq, Killing OBL, Freeing Libya, refocusing on Afghanistan) they whine and cry about how he's being divisive and shouldn't be using those as campaign tools. Well - I guess Mitt has one less tool on his campaign now.

  • 113 votes
#1.5 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

Everyone knows conservatives are afraid of "feisty" figures!

Good catch JoAnne - my bad! ☺

  • 46 votes
#1.6 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

Doesn't say much about a political party when a highly qualified person feels he must resign for personal reasons but most likely resigned because he was not blind to the party backlash against him.

  • 84 votes
#1.7 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:48 PM EDT

Malibu Mitt "Loves FIREING People", so he Fired a Gay Employee!

I may have figured out why the GOP is so Upset with President Obama Killing OBL on May 1st, that is also the Date of "Mission Accomplished"! Now, Bush & the GOP can't Cellebrate that Nonsense of Mission Accomplished.

President Obama is a Ruthless Chicago Politician, & personally, from where I sit, I Love It!

On another thread Chucky T was quoted as saying that President Obama would'nt be speaking with the Troops while in Afghanistan. Well, after watching the POTUS Do just that, what else is Stupid Chucky T. LIEING about, just to be on TV?

This after President Obama makeing Fun of Stupid Chucky T. this past Saturady Night!

You Betcha!

Occupy SoggyBottom!

  • 53 votes
#1.8 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

Romney had a foreign policy guy? This surprises me more than a gay Republican. Given that Mitt has already abandoned the right wing of his party to start sucking up to the middle, I would hope that being gay wasn't why the guy left.

My guess is that he figured out Romney will spin whichever way the wing blows, and it's pretty hard to have a foreign policy when it changes with each person you meet. That, and he wanted as much distance between himself and Romney's lack of insight into the international world.

  • 74 votes
#1.9 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

I'm still interested to see how this guy managed to reconcile working with and for a party that openly lambasts his sexual preference as sinful and a pox on the nation and a cornerstone of the forces eroding the family/Christian(tm) values of the US.

Let's forget for a moment that the GOP has yet to show how trickle-down economic policies have actually bore fruit; how Romney intends to expand the military, cut taxes and cut spending, all while bringing jobs back to the US...

...This guy was basically working for a party that wants to have him and everyone else like him closeted, suppressed and conformed...or basically left out in the cold should he have decided not to do so.

Bloody hypocrite!

  • 87 votes
#1.10 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:58 PM EDT

Willard and his homophobic base!

Chilled - it would be safe to say 'Willard and his -phobic base!' You can add any prefix to it and it applies.

Feisty - I had thought they 'feistied' up the article in your namesake : ) Willard and his feistyphobic base has a great ring to it.

  • 40 votes
#1.11 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

His tweets showed him to have quite an arrogant side to him and Romney's camp should have been aware of them BEFORE he was hired. He was well known for these tweets well before he joined the Romney campaign.

Let's hope he wasn't pushed out because he's gay. That's discrimination and should not be tolerated, if in fact this is the reason he "quit".

It's unacceptable.

  • 32 votes
#1.12 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:06 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBeezlemaestroExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Do the liberals here actually believe the garbage they spew about Romney being homophobic?

"I want to thank Governor Romney for his belief in me and my abilities and his clear message to me that being openly gay was a non-issue for him and his team."

Did you just stop reading at some point and not make it all the way through? Or is your dislike for Romney enough to try to distort what the article actually says? Seems like if he'd been forced to resign over his sexual orientation he wouldn't have made such an appreciative comment.

Just wonderin'...

  • 9 votes
#1.13 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

The Republican Party is infested with old idiots like Karl Rove and Donald Rumsfeld. Republicans: you need to recruit yourselves some fresh, young idiots to carry your party off a cliff.

  • 61 votes
#1.14 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

President Obama is a Ruthless Chicago Politician, & personally, from where I sit, I Love It!

Rick,

We play hardball in this great city & I make no apologies!

I think Chucky T is more then a little pissed he was snubbed on the President's itinerary! lol

Does anyone know if this is the same guy who scrubbed all of his misogynist tweets prior to joining Team Willard?

  • 30 votes
#1.15 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:07 PM EDT

The GNOP is a hostile work environment!!

  • 28 votes
#1.16 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

Scotty - Yes Romney has 23 foreign policy guys now. 17 of them served W and gave us his stellar foreign policy record.

  • 39 votes
#1.17 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

I feel your pain, Republicans. This year's race must be kind of like whacking yourself in the head with a board... but just imagine how good it's going to feel when you stop.

  • 50 votes
#1.18 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

Do the liberals here actually believe the garbage they spew about Romney being homophobic?

Romney may, or may not be. Frankly I don't know. I doubt you do either. HOWEVER, he needs to attract votes from the conservative GOP, religious base and the reality is many of THEM are.

  • 39 votes
#1.19 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

Mitt said - I have no time for manhunts of 911, I'm to busy working on my one million dollar car elevator !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 39 votes
#1.20 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

For all this talk about killing bin Laden, the Republican Party are clueless.

What did most of us think when we heard that bin Laden was dead? I bet most of us thought about those who died on Sept. 11th. Most of us thought about our soldiers who went into Afghanistan time and time again, tour after tour, year after year.

Most of us thought about those who went into that house that night, in complete darkness, not knowing what they were up against, and carried out their mission flawlessly. Brave souls.

Most of us learned that President Obama had two options. Bomb the house to smithereens or go in and gather intelligence and make damn sure bin Laden was dead.

THAT'S what the GOP should have talked about.

Instead we get GD sour grapes. Typical.

  • 69 votes
#1.21 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:21 PM EDT
Comment author avatarDB AkronExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Chilled, you are letting a lot of liberal thought training cloud your objectivity.

it is the Reporters who said it is "possibly" a gay backlash. There is no Proof of a said backlash for him being gay. You cannot have someone in a communication position who is playing right into Obama's hands.

Being he is gay, he should have had a lot more empathy toward women. This is as bad as the anti-bullying director bullying christian students in a high school anti-bullying campaign.

Romney hires based on most qualified. Until the anti-woman tweets, there was no reason to believe there really was a problem.

  • 7 votes
#1.22 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

Did Grenell just figure out that Republicans hate gays? Sorry but here's a guy working against his own interests.

  • 42 votes
#1.23 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

Romney to Grenell

"I'm sorry Grenell, but we have to let you go. I must have every right christian wing vote and its the only way the GOP will back me.

Sad... Very sad indeed.

  • 29 votes
#1.24 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

Hey everybody,

Go on over to The Obama Diary and look at the photos of President Obama with the troops in Afghanistan. They're spectacular!

  • 31 votes
#1.25 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:28 PM EDT

Feisty - Speaking of Marcus Bachmann - I bet something is going to come out in the news about that guy and young boys buried under the front porch or something similar in the near future. That guy is sketchy.

  • 14 votes
#1.26 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

For Republicans saying "there may have been a backlash", on the front page of RedState they are attacking a Republican for supporting Civil Unions. There is no sugar coating this, Republicans hate gays.

Romney's own Mormon church poured money into Proposition 8, overturning the right for gays to get married in California.

  • 39 votes
#1.27 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:29 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBrianb-999431Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

You know Pat, a lot of the animosity that's developed between the left and the right goes way back to when Clinton was impeached. I remember well how the left was all against the right for taking Clinton to court... that set the pace for GWB's presidency... after 911, it took exactly 4 days before the left started accusing him of having some part in the destruction of the twin towers. We had 4 days of unity and someone on the left printed something about a conspiracy. A week later, the left was back to hating GWB and the right again. For 8 years the left completely bashed Bush. It wouldn't have mattered if Bush did nothing in Iraq... or Afghanistan... the left was against him no matter what.

Now the left wonders why the right is so critical of Obama. We see the far left leanings of Obama... We see how he tries so hard to circumvent the Constitution. We see how he's obviously working against the economy. We see these things and yet you defend him.

How long is this left/right hate thing going to last? We will never agree to certain things... we will never look at things the same... is it impossible for the left and right to ever formulate one country again?

  • 9 votes
#1.28 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

@ RedDevPS..You're spot on and it reminds me of a word that I discovered in the last few months coulro phobia = fear of clowns!

@DB Akron.....huh

  • 11 votes
#1.29 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

Romney may, or may not be. Frankly I don't know. I doubt you do either.

Nope, I don't know. I just take the word of the guy who resigned, that his sexuality was a "non-issue." Seems like that would be the most credible source in this case.

HOWEVER, he needs to attract votes from the conservative GOP, religious base

Not sure I agree with that. Seems like they're so intent on getting Obama out of office, they'd vote for anyone else. For all intents and purposes, as long as Romney has secured the nomination, those votes should pretty much be a given.

and the reality is many of THEM are.

No argument there, even if it is a stereotype that is often applied to people where it doesn't hold true.

  • 3 votes
#1.30 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

That guy is sketchy.

But...but...but... he sure can go down on a corn dog!

http://www.truthwinsout.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/doing-it-wrong.jpg

Look Michele, no teeth! lol

  • 15 votes
#1.31 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:52 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBrianb-999431Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Jemma- I disagree with you. What the right hates is the gay lifestyle. It goes against the fabric of human existence. It takes a man and a woman to produce offspring, period. One of the natural driving forces in life is the creation of offspring and all that is beautiful surrounding those events. With this in mind, the gay lifestyle cannot procreate society... besides, the numbers of gays in this world are minuscule compared to heterosexuals. I don't hate gays... I detest the lifestyle though because it goes against all the laws of nature. I have had gay friends and they remain friends... and they do know my opinion of the lifestyle... and they accept my opinion... they do because they know I don't hate them as people.

There's a lot of confusion as to why people are against the homosexual lifestyle... the left generates a lot of that confusion in order to try to prove those that have a difficult time accepting the gay lifestyle are wrong... we aren't wrong as long as we don't hate the individual and we can still dislike the lifestyle.

  • 5 votes
#1.32 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

See, brian, Obama isn't far left, but if you need to tell yourself that go for it. The right and left have been bashing each other forever. Your right lean shows. It has gone both ways forever, so you can drop how it's all the left if you want to sound informed.

  • 12 votes
#1.33 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:59 PM EDT

What the right hates is the gay lifestyle.

How exactly does it infringe upon your lifestyle? What freedoms are they taking away from you?

It goes against the fabric of human existence

Says who? YOU?

There's a lot of confusion as to why people are against the homosexual lifestyle...

No there's not - only homophobes like yourself who spread hate, fear & division!

Why are you so threatened & defensive of something that has no impact on your life?

  • 40 votes
#1.34 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:04 PM EDT

Brian, you can try to rationalize it any way you like but it is not the right of anyone to legislate who someone loves or marries.

Republicans pretend they are all about freedom but their actions prove they think they have the right to decide and legislate the most personal aspects of a person's life.

  • 37 votes
#1.35 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:09 PM EDT

Beezlemaestro

Do the liberals here actually believe the garbage they spew about Romney being homophobic?

I don't know if he's homophobic and -sorry if I step on toes- I don't really care. I knew well before this that he's a prolific liar and not even a very good liar and that his business "successes" came usually at the expense of other people's jobs and retirement accounts. He is scum. The jury was already in way before this stuff. He is mean spirited and his idea of "campaigning" is much like Rove's, that is to say the object is to destroy someone else's reputation much like he did other people's futures. Scorched earth. I am utterly convinced that the TP and repugs got their political philosophy from Dantes-

"BETTER TO RULE IN HELL THAN TO SERVE IN PARADISE"

  • 26 votes
#1.36 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:11 PM EDT

Brianb - I agree with Feisty above. Exactly how does the "homosexual lifestyle" impact your life? Mind your own business. I am sure that you only imagine that any friend you have who is a "homosexual" respects you.

Feisty - I love the YouTube video of Marcus and Michelle dancing at a campaign stop.

  • 25 votes
#1.37 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:11 PM EDT

brianb999

There's no confusion about why people are against gays or "the gay lifestyle." It's fear and hatred.

Since dozens of studies have found most mammals have a percentage of homosexuals in their populations, you're opinion is the direct opposite of the facts. Homosexuality is naturally occurring behavior: it is completely a part of the fabric of nature.

BTW, antibiotics are against the fabric of nature, so are you against medicine as well?

  • 26 votes
#1.38 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:14 PM EDT

Brianb-999431,

You are either too young or too brainwashed to see that the trash mouth started when Reagan's team of neo-cons started to paint Carter as an incompetent. The reality in that story is that one of Carter's main issues was alternative energy sources. Think where we would be in relation to Arab oil dependency if Reagan had not destroyed Carter's vision of the need for getting out from under the thumb of those greedy SOB's.

You do not hear anything about that coming from the froth about how great Reagan was!

It would be great if the right wing fanatics just left it as disapproving of the lifestyle of gays, but they dont, they hate the people who are born into that lifestyle and often beat them or drag them to their death. Get over trying to sound accommodating and empathetic, it does not work in the T-party.

  • 29 votes
#1.39 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:14 PM EDT

It takes a man and a woman to produce offspring, period.

Wow - I learn something new every day. The heterosexual lifestyle has one single purpose; to procreate and produce offspring. Are all those childless couples, or single folks an abomination?

  • 32 votes
#1.40 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:18 PM EDT

Dang, while I was duking it out with the Independents on the other thread you guys been having all the fun here!

Yeah, poor foreign policy advisor! I *do* want to see what he considers a "weak leadership" from Obama on the foreign policy front. Cuz IMV - there is none. Domestically - yeah, plenty of lost leadership opps, but externally he's been very good so far.

AND - what was he thinking being gay and going to work on the R ticket in the election year of 2012?! Duh! You are the stoopid one, LOL! And I hope he did not get any death threats like that other guy from the EPA that resigned yesterday.

Cuz nowadays it comes with the territory, y'know: American Politics 2012 is a real blood sport, only the ballsiest survive. (fyi: all of the above was sarcasm. In reality I abhore these deathly politics and violence in general)

  • 12 votes
#1.41 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:22 PM EDT

What the right hates is the gay lifestyle. It goes against the fabric of human existence.

First, how do you know? How do you know it goes against the "fabric of human existence"? Are you the creator? Humans are capable of exponential growth, that means we can grow our population at faster rates, the more of us there are. The earth is a finite size, it will not get bigger no matter how many people we shove into it. So how do you know that homosexuals are not part of the plan? How do you know they are not a built in population regulator?

Second, why do you care? Is it your life? Are you gay? Then why do you care?

It takes a man and a woman to produce offspring, period. One of the natural driving forces in life is the creation of offspring and all that is beautiful surrounding those events.

All that is beautiful? Congratulations... you have procreated. You have now done the exact same thing as every other human. Hell, it's not even unique to humans, you have done the same as every animal, bird, fish, plant, and every other organism that procreates. Is breathing oxygen a "beautiful event"? Because there are less things on this planet that breath oxygen than there are that procreate.

On top of that, what about straight people who do not have kids? Are you against their lifestyle? Are you going to try and take away their rights too?

  • 22 votes
#1.42 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:25 PM EDT

Aww look...a kinder, gentler Brianb...

...he must have an interview lined up.

  • 9 votes
#1.43 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:26 PM EDT

This guy should of never been hired in the 1st place...... Willard has no Foreign policy experience, just because you hire someone to say that you do, does not make it so, Also Romney is a Vietnam War Draft Dodger that went to live in SOCIALIST France instead of going to fight in the Vietnam War

  • 21 votes
#1.44 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

Well, it looks like Brianb has a lesson to learn here. Any sort of defense offered for personal conservative views will result in fringe liberals jumping all over it and twisting them into what they envision every republican to be. And yet those fringe liberals are the ones who accuse him of being divisive, hateful, and instilling fear...the irony boggles the mind!

  • 3 votes
#1.45 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:33 PM EDT

the campaign might have faced a backlash due to his sexuality.

ie; the thought of having a c--k lover on the team wouldn't be prudent. We pride ourselves in keeping those sicko's away from us (sarc).

"While I welcomed the challenge to confront President Obama’s foreign policy failures and weak leadership on the world stage

and what would those be? Seems he's doing a pretty good job on the foreign policy front. Much, much better than the previous guy did.

  • 19 votes
#1.46 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:37 PM EDT

Any sort of defense offered for personal conservative views will result in fringe liberals jumping all over it

No Bella - my questions to Brian applies to you as well - since BB ran off with his tail tucked - do you want to take a shot at answering?

Walk the walk for once in your miserable existence!

Something tells me that would be a big NO! lol

  • 15 votes
#1.47 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:38 PM EDT

Well, it looks like Brianb has a lesson to learn here.

Sure does. Quit being a friggin' troll.

fringe liberals jumping all over it and twisting them into what they envision every republican to be

Really? And what do call what rwnj's do? Sounds like you can dish it out, but can't take it. As the saying goes, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, because we're not going away, and we are certainly not backing down. You want fuzzy, warm and nice, put on a Yanni record and get a cup of cocoa.

  • 18 votes
#1.48 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:46 PM EDT

Draft dodger? Really? He was serving a mission for his church in SOCIALIST France. Was Clinton a draft dodger when he left the country to become a Rhodes Scholar. Give me a damn break. You people will grasp at anything. Just like the desperation Obama demonstrated in saying Romney wouldn't have sent the SEALs in to kill Bin Laden. Romney's saying he wouldn't send troops into Pakistan is a far cry from having sending Navy Seals in to kill the most wanted man in the world. Can't wait until we are saying President Romney!

    #1.49 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:47 PM EDT

    Romney takes a WIDE STANCE and has the nerve to fire this guy.

    I mean, they have a WIDE STANCE in the Grand Old Tea Party ...

    Mitty was prancing around Paris while our troops were bleeding in Vietnam, then he spent the rest of his life piling up gold in Swiss banks.

    H

    • 14 votes
    #1.50 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:48 PM EDT

    Brianb-999431

    Jemma- I disagree with you. What the right hates is the gay lifestyle. It goes against the fabric of human existence. It takes a man and a woman to produce offspring, period. One of the natural driving forces in life is the creation of offspring and all that is beautiful surrounding those events.

    Ah, yes. Look how you straights with your chosen lifestyle "produce offspring." The majority of you end up divorcing, therefore shattering families and shattering children. Many, if not most of you, "produce offspring" without any "benefit" of marriage. My, how that's beautiful. If you decide to keep your offsrpring, you raise them in one-parent household where they succumb to emotional and behavorial, if not cognitive, disabilities and the rest of us have to pay the price to tend to them and what they they do. And don't forget that if you in the straight, self-chosen lifestyle decide you simply don't want them, you kill them by abortion at the tune of more than a million a year.

    Ah, yes, what a wonderful thing you straights are doing. You view children, your "produced offspring" as nothing more than major household appliances that exist to make you all feel "fulfilled." What you straights do goes against the "fabric of human existence" and is repulsive to us normal gays and lesbians. It's time the law started going after you straights. You should not be allowed to marry unless you can prove that you can do it until "death do you part." And if things go wrong in your marriage, tough. You'll have to stay together. And if you want to have children, you straights should have to be compelled to take proper courses and, unless you pass them, you should be prohibited from conceiving children. You should all be forced to be temporarily - or permanently - sterilized.

    You straights are disgusting people with your chosen lifestyle. I don't hate you, mind you. I just don't think you should be allowed to shove your lifestyle in the face of others, or get special treatment because of it. What you do behind closed doors is your business. And you keep it there.

    • 14 votes
    #1.51 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:49 PM EDT

    The heterosexual lifestyle has one single purpose; to procreate and produce offspring

    Herr Hitler had a wonderful place to send people who didn't fit the lifestyle. It was a rather long train ride, but I hear the showers were nice.

    • 11 votes
    #1.52 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:51 PM EDT

    Can't wait until we are saying President Romney!

    That may be awhile.

    • 19 votes
    #1.53 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:53 PM EDT

    I dont think that anyone who does not have the GNADS to fight for ones country should be POTUS and its too late for Mr Clinton but not for the DRAFT DODGER ROMNEY, If everyone joined the Cult of Mormon who would be left to fight?

    • 10 votes
    #1.54 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:54 PM EDT

    All I can say is "I love it"! By the time Republicans get finished narrowing their party down to whom they will "accept" in their circle and who they don't accept, there won't be enough folks left to fill a movie theater.

    Obama / Biden 2012

    • 30 votes
    #1.55 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:54 PM EDT

    No Bella - my questions to Brian applies to you as well - since BB ran off with his tail tucked - do you want to take a shot at answering?

    Sure, I'll answer. And thanks for the "bella" compliment, although I generally prefer "handsome."

    How exactly does it infringe upon your lifestyle? What freedoms are they taking away from you?

    It doesn't infringe on my lifestyle, and no significant freedom is being deprived from me. Bet you weren't expecting that one, were you? lol

    Says who? YOU?

    Probably his religion. That tends to be the more common answer. But since we believe in freedom of religion, that shouldn't be a bad thing.

    No there's not - only homophobes like yourself who spread hate, fear & division!

    This is where I take issue with your comment. There was nothing from his post that would rationally be construed to spread "hate, fear & division!" I don't know where you got that from. The guy has personal beliefs, and his presentation was not even remotely accomodating of hate or fear. Division is too broad, so I won't argue that one.

    Why are you so threatened & defensive of something that has no impact on your life?

    Threatened and defensive? I don't read it with that attitude. It was a rationally thought out response explaining his beliefs. Incidentally, I don't think he should try to make broad, sweeping claims on behalf of the right, but for himself, that's not bad.

    Walk the walk for once in your miserable existence!

    Well, last week sucked, but overall I'd say my existence has been pretty enjoyable. :)

    Something tells me that would be a big NO! lol

    Easy, girl. That trigger finger is a little to itchy. :)

    • 3 votes
    #1.56 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:59 PM EDT

    @brianb...

    Brianb-999431

    You know Pat, a lot of the animosity that's developed between the left and the right goes way back to when Clinton was impeached. I remember well how the left was all against the right for taking Clinton to court... that set the pace for GWB's presidency... after 911, it took exactly 4 days before the left started accusing him of having some part in the destruction of the twin towers. We had 4 days of unity and someone on the left printed something about a conspiracy. A week later, the left was back to hating GWB and the right again. For 8 years the left completely bashed Bush. It wouldn't have mattered if Bush did nothing in Iraq... or Afghanistan... the left was against him no matter what.

    You couldn't be more wrong. Ever hear of PNAC? The serious hostility didn't hit high gear until PNAC approached Clinton with their grandiose plans. The fact that they would even approach Clinton tells you that there wasn't as much difference between Clinton and Bush I as there should have been. The voodoo economics mostly continued. Yes, he built up the middle class with a tech bubble but between NAFTA and more de-regulation( i.e. repeal of Glass-Steagal), the Raygun beat went on. The main change in 2001 was an administration bent on empire. Personally, after seeing Nixon's crimes go unpunished, seeing Ameica with an unelected president- though not the last-, and seeing Raygun repeatedly get away with high crimes and treason, I'd rather operate on my own eyes than watch politics by 1985.So I stopped being involved.

    And so we come to November or 2001. I'm sitting in a classroom and reading about bushco and Ashcroft pretty much boasting of arresting an American citizen in the airport at Chicago and holding him incommunicado, denying him all his constitutional rights. I got cold chills. In that instant, I knew that our real enemy wasn't OBL. All he wanted was revenge. It was bushco and the Neocons.If they can take away the Constitutionally guaranteed rights of one American, they can do it to anyone: and the beauty of denying a trial is that then you don't even have to prove the guilt! They wanted empire and a throne. Following that was one abuse after another. In the 2004 election campaign, the SS wouldn't allow anyone near a bush event with any sign or shirt that indicated disagreement with bushco.Eliminating free speech? He started a war on false pretense, lying provably so, to Congress, the U.N. and even his own Sec. of State. They obviously committed voter fraud in Ohio to steal yet a second election. They floated the idea in late 2004 before the election- you may remember this- of "postponing" the election because of a terrorist threat. I will be convinced till the day I die that they were testing the waters for canceling the election and crowning King George. But there was overwhelming backlash and the men who were cowardly enough to hide from the Viet Nam War didn't have the stones to sieze total control. My son's Marine recruiter when questioned, stated that if bush ordered him to arrest the SCOTUS and Congress, he would do it because it would be to his benefit. The list of grievances against this criminal is endless. Forget destroying the economy. He didn't do that on purpose. He did that because he was just plain stupid, like many of his followers. PNAC was all about empire and power and PNAC was the power behind his throne. Recognize the names Douglas Feith, Dan Quayle, Paul Woolfowitz, Dick Cheney? The list goes on...idiots and/or criminals all.

    That night in November of 2001 was the night I decided that I would rather die free fighting against would-be emperors like bushco and the repugnicans, the greatest criminal gang in the world, than to be cringing in fear because I stood by while they stole my country. And just so no trolls can suggest that Imean killing these guys, that's not the fighting to which I refer. I would rather be screaming at the top of my lungs and get "disappeared" than to be hiding in the shadows hoping to be the last one taken. They are criminals. Almost all of them. The ones that aren't are dupes. I'm not a dem, maybe not even a liberal unless your definition is simply someone who cares about his fellow man. But I can identify crime and slavery when I see it and smell it and the GOP reeks of it. THAT, AND THAT ONLY, is the root of my hostility. They don't want citizens. They want slaves. Not me,buddy...not me.

    • 25 votes
    #1.57 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:00 PM EDT

    He just didn't want to be on a losing team.

    Worked for them long enough to gain insight into Mitts "world vision".

    • 8 votes
    #1.58 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:01 PM EDT

    Beezle

    Any sort of defense offered for personal conservative views will result in fringe liberals jumping all over it and twisting them into what they envision every republican to be.

    So asking logical, factual questions is "jumping all over it"?

    Let me guess, you do not have a logical, factual response to defend your position, so this is your umbrella comment that you use in any situation. You can not rationally argue your position, so just accuse the other side of "jumping all over" you.

    But I will give you a chance to prove me wrong. Just answer the following questions with logical, factual and rational information:

    1) Given a planet of finite size, and humans of exponential growth capabilities who also consume natural resources... why is it necessary for EVERY person to procreate and add to over-population?

    2) Why are you concerned with couples who do not procreate, and thus act as a population regulator? Why do you seek to limit their rights, simply because they are not procreating?

    3) What measurable negative impact does the homosexual lifestyle have on your personal life? Please provide an actual impact that can be measured and studied.

    Those are all logical questions, based on facts. Now if your chance to answer these questions, and defend your stance. Go for it.

    • 9 votes
    #1.59 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:01 PM EDT

    Really? And what do call what rwnj's do? Sounds like you can dish it out, but can't take it. As the saying goes, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, because we're not going away, and we are certainly not backing down. You want fuzzy, warm and nice, put on a Yanni record and get a cup of cocoa.

    Nah, warm and fuzzy doesn't normally do it for me. Rational and civil discourse does. I'm pretty sure most people here could be capable of doing that, assuming they put a little effort into it. I don't condone mischaracterizations regardless of who the offender is. There are enough double standards in politics as it is.

    • 1 vote
    #1.60 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:04 PM EDT

    Sure, I'll answer. And thanks for the "bella" compliment, although I generally prefer "handsome."

    Sorry about that - Smurf's have never been a turn on for me!

    Probably his religion

    Got it - a plastic Jesus bible banger is allowed to dictate personal freedoms based on a church's belief's?

    There was nothing from his post that would rationally be construed to spread "hate, fear & division!"

    Seriously, all I can say is I would consider making an appointment with your nearest LensCrafters!

    Easy, girl. That trigger finger is a little to itchy. :)

    Careful buddy, you should stop speaking from experience - you know what they say about those who go to bed with an itchy finger...

    • 8 votes
    #1.61 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:08 PM EDT

    BrianB,

    Your knowledge of dirty tricks and personal attacks in politics appears to be a bit limited. It really is not a curse on both their houses thing, the GOP have made organizing political character assassination, lies, libel and slander a cabinet level position since Nixon. HR Haldeman was Nixons Chief of Staff did 18 months in federal prison for conspiracy involving the Watergate coverup. Donald Segreti was paid to disrupt opposition campaign events with everything from smoke and stink bombs to the Canuck letter. How about Lee Atwater or Karl Rove or GOP shills like The Arkansas Project of Richard Mellon Scaife, maybe Andrew Breitbart or Dick Morris. There are no Democratic equivalents and these are merely the tip of the iceberg.

    I had the same attitude as you vis a vis gays until I was about 18 and actually met some. I know gay men and women in loving committed relationships that would put most heterosexual couples to shame. What kind of god would create creatures with hopes and desires and then condemn them for those same desires let alone subjecting them to the judgements of such people as yourself.

    jkh

    • 15 votes
    #1.62 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:15 PM EDT

    American Girl-724855

    All I can say is "I love it"! By the time Republicans get finished narrowing their party down to whom they will "accept" in their circle and who they don't accept, there won't be enough folks left to fill a movie theater.

    yeah but it'll sure make their Christmas shopping easier.

    • 8 votes
    #1.63 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:16 PM EDT

    Chilled,

    Even at the close of the article, the Romney camp was saying his being gay was a non-issue. Apparently they were aware that he was gay when he was hired. Romney, nor any candidate was running an outrightly anti-gay campaign. And they shouldn't. Republican is a political party, not a religious belief party. There are many gay people who are Republican.

    Only Santorum has voiced that he doesn't agree with people being gay and that he wasn't for their unions being equated with "marriage".

    • 3 votes
    #1.64 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:19 PM EDT

    BTW, as an addendum to 1.57, PNAC approached Clinton in the mid90's about going inot the middle-east to take some countries and oil fields. It was only after that that things got really nasty for Clinton. Some sources inside PNAC and the GOP admitted that their expectation was that Clinton would resign rather than fight and they already were preparing a pretext for removing Al Gore and installing the next in line as president- none other than Newt Gingrich. The republicans have a long history of not accepting the decision of the American people in elections. Remember Watergate? On and on it goes. What criminals....

    • 10 votes
    #1.65 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:22 PM EDT

    Nah, warm and fuzzy doesn't normally do it for me. Rational and civil discourse does.

    Well then I suggest you have a pow-wow with your tribe because they've been on the hate warpath since Jan. 20, 2009.

    • 4 votes
    #1.66 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:23 PM EDT

    So asking logical, factual questions is "jumping all over it"?

    No, immediately accusing him of being homophobic, or spreading fear, hate and division, however, is, in my opinion, jumping all over it.

    But I will give you a chance to prove me wrong. Just answer the following questions with logical, factual and rational information:

    How magnanimous of you. Hopefully it's everything you were hoping for...

    1) Given a planet of finite size, and humans of exponential growth capabilities who also consume natural resources... why is it necessary for EVERY person to procreate and add to over-population?

    2) Why are you concerned with couples who do not procreate, and thus act as a population regulator? Why do you seek to limit their rights, simply because they are not procreating?

    3) What measurable negative impact does the homosexual lifestyle have on your personal life? Please provide an actual impact that can be measured and studied.

    1) It's not necessary, and I didn't even read that argument in Brianb's post. If anything, I gleaned the inference that a population will inevitably perish in a strictly homosexual culture.

    2) I'm not concerned with couples who don't procreate. Did I suggest that I was? As for limiting their rights, I'm not trying to do that, either. You've made a whole lot of assumptions from my post, and you know what they say when you assume...

    3) A measurable impact? I could really stretch this just for the sake of playing devil's advocate. Consider the following:

    In 2005, an estimated 500,000 gay men were diagnosed with AIDS in the U.S. They accounted for about 53% of all new cases, and 71% of cases in male adults and adolescents. In 2006, an estimated 56,300 new HIV infections occurred. San Francisco hospitals found the average cost to treat each case to be $27,571, which equates to more than $13.7 billion in expenses that must be paid by someone. More people than just those diagnosed are clearly helping to pay the bill.

    That's from one of the "scholarly" defenses of prop 8 in California. It's a measurable impact. Less money in my pocket limits my lifestyle. Granted, it's a negligent amount, but you only asked for measurable...

    • 4 votes
    #1.67 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:24 PM EDT

    Jim Hayes-375865..

    very good post, Jim @ 1.62 I guess I'm pretty old fashioned on the marriage view but I can't help cringing when people like Newt Gingrich who has betrayed two wives, one of whom was very ill, talking about the sanctity of marriage. If it's so holy, why do so many Gingrich's make a joke of it. Gays can hardly disrespect it more than many heterosexuals have. Where is the outcry against someone like Gingrich abandoning an ill wife? There was some against John Edwards, but not nearly enough. What a slime bucket..holy? hmmm...why don't they treat it that way?

    • 9 votes
    #1.68 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:44 PM EDT

    Feisty-

    Got it - a plastic Jesus bible banger is allowed to dictate personal freedoms based on a church's belief's?

    Not at all. There is one position here where I side with what I perceive to be most conservatives. I don't support same sex marriage. I don't think that is a personal freedom. I don't think government should be involved in marriage at all, for that matter. Leave it to the churches. Government should do nothing more than perform a civil union, and those should all be treated equally.

    you know what they say about those who go to bed with an itchy finger...

    No, but I'm "itching" to find out...

    (I think you were going for the itchy @$$ saying...)

    • 3 votes
    #1.69 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:46 PM EDT

    Did this Guy tell Romney and the republicans He was homosexual when He joined Romney's campaign? Did Romney and the republicans know about his homosexuality? This is, to say the least, queer, in the literal sense of course.

    • 2 votes
    #1.70 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:59 PM EDT

    I think it is clear that the Republicans hate gays for petty, small-minded, religious based reasons but a gay man taking a position in the Republican party has to be an idiot. Sorry, but there's no other explanation. He had to know they would string him up and send him to sexual reassignment therapy or drive him out!

    It's like a black man joining the KKK... or a Jew joining the Nazi party. Makes zero sense unless he is a masochist.

    • 12 votes
    #1.71 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:12 PM EDT

    Notice how Brianb didn't have anything to say after he was blasted in this stream? I guess his conservative, right wing attempt at a Kumbaya moment didn't work out too well.

    • 7 votes
    #1.72 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:16 PM EDT

    Romney's foreign policy is his 1.3 million dollar car elevator and car wash, God help this Country if this Flip Flopper gets in. PS a vote for mitt is a vote for the 1% !

    • 12 votes
    #1.73 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:26 PM EDT

    Does anyone remember people jumping ship from Bachman to go to Paul? This is just the beginning. Paul is winning state after state in the delegate hunt, but MSM is not paying attention. Last weekend Paul won 74% of the delegates in Louisiana, a state he only got 6% of the far right Republican vote in the primary. He also has the majority in Romneys's home state of Mass, Iowa, MN, Nevada, and Washington, so far.

    And one thing that most don't know. I may be mistaken, but on the first vote at the RNC conscientious objectors don't have to cast a vote, meaning that the delegates that are promoted by the media mean nothing.

    More will be jumping ship because the Republican platform is an offensive deviation to what it should be. Conservative should mean not spending every dime you get your hands on, not religious whack-job.

    Ron Paul 2012

    Let the revolution begin.

    • 3 votes
    #1.74 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:01 PM EDT

    TBLUE,

    I think you place too much blame on Clinton for the repeal of Glass- Steagal. Gramm-Leach Bliley was a piece of GOP legislation and it was extremely unlikely Clinton could have sustained a veto. He threatened to veto both the House and Senate legislation and got an expansion of the Community Reinvestment Act with the original legislation de facto permitting redlining without penalty.

    jkh

    • 4 votes
    #1.75 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:11 PM EDT

    I would bet my house Robo Romney got so much flack about hiring one of those gay sodomites from his "base" that he had to save face. I don't know nor care if Romney is homophobic, but his base most assuredly IS.

    That being said, the guy is nothing more than a party troll by saying Obama has had all these failures in foreign policy and is weak on the world stage. They just can't give O credit for ANYTHING he does... they whine when he starts something. Then they whine when it turns into a success.

    John, I gotta love the enthusiasm you and other Paul supporters have, but you guys need to call it a day. Hopefully he will finally NOT run for President in 4 years, and his idiot son will not be re-elected in KY.

    • 8 votes
    #1.76 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:13 PM EDT

    wives fan- Yes and yes. Shake that Etch-A-Sketch !!!

    • 4 votes
    #1.77 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:20 PM EDT

    To the haters: Mitt did not fire the man. Mitt hired him and, in Mr. Grenell's words, his being openly gay was "a non-issue for [Mitt]." If you want to cast stones, feel free to cast it at the segment of the Republican base that questions the LGBT agenda. As for Mitt the man, by all accounts he is a decent guy. Many of you have policy differences with him (and about half of the electorate that disagrees with you) but please do not falsely ascribe faults to him that he does not have.

      #1.78 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:22 PM EDT

      'A feisty figure' reminds me of Sarah Palin, and her contribution to the GOP in 2008 and since.

      • 3 votes
      #1.79 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:27 PM EDT

      You gotta love Brian above---he does not hate gays, he just hates everything about them. And he has gay friends, wouldn't it be great if he could really know what they think about him. They smile, they hear, but they know he is a hateful pig...but they are also smart enough to know they will never get him to understand...and while Brian thinks they are his friends, they are rally just people he thinks he knows.

      As far as Romney being a Homophobe...He is. ANYONE who does not recognize my rights as a human being, basic civil rights to marry, live in peace and have every single right they take so easily for granted...is someone who is a homophobe. If you don't think I am just as much a human deserving the same rights you have, then you are pure hate. Plain and simple.

      Of course who knows what Romney thinks,,,it changes weekly. And of course this guy quit over ultra right backlash...that is what he meant by 'personal reasons" and Romney was willing to accept that to pander to the hatemongering right wingers

      • 4 votes
      #1.80 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:42 PM EDT

      Many of you have policy differences with him (and about half of the electorate that disagrees with you) but please do not falsely ascribe faults to him that he does not have.

      Well, gee Doug, therein is the rub. If Romney is the ultra-conservative, and his ultra-conservative party hates gays, where does that leave Romney? Apparently, in the same boat as BrianB; he pretends to love his 'gays' but is utterly repulsed by their gayness. And we are suppose to support a conflicted leader that hates/loves gays?

      This same argument applies to every group and/or class of people that are not rich, wealthy and white. Apparently, Romney has empathy for mothers, but only if they are dignified enough to marry a rich man to support them or dignified enough to work 3 jobs to support a child that doesn't have an at-home father.

      • 3 votes
      #1.81 - Wed May 2, 2012 12:33 AM EDT

      People say that Republicans aren't creative. I disagree. Some of the greatest painters in the world proudly call themselves Republican. In fact, I believe they are showing the kind of creative expertise and knowledge it would take to paint the entire United States of America blue in November.

      • 3 votes
      #1.82 - Wed May 2, 2012 3:07 AM EDT

      I hope every gay republican is paying attention to this and finally understands that this is a party that wants your vote, but wants you to remain silent. In a recent article in the Deseret News (The Mormon church's propaganda machine in Utah) a prominent LDS (Mormon) leader claimed that you cannot be in favor of gay rights and be in good standing as a church member. That pretty much sums up Romney's position on you if you are gay. You are still a second class citizen.

      • 3 votes
      #1.83 - Wed May 2, 2012 5:37 AM EDT

      Seeing how every post goes back and forth anyway on who is the best and how they are right and who did what to whom. If you gain a little education, you will see that both sides have been doing that since the beginning of politics. Does not make it right.

      I will say this: those of you that give the credit to Obama for Iraq, Afghan and Bin Ladin-What color are the skies in your reality? Do you really think it was his doing? What do you think our troops are thinking of him right now? they know not to say anything bad about him especially since he has whack-jobs that scour every post and every forum for ANYONE talking bad about him so they can turn him in and end his career (the marine for example). The COC position is what gains the respect, not necessarily the person. The marine had every right to say what he wanted and yet he was receiving a dishonorable or OTH discharge. Knowing that that will impact him for any job for the rest of his life.

      You people get what you deserve, when you back someone or a party that keeps the smoke show going in your face while destroying the very fabric of what made the US the greatest nation on earth. So, keep on bashing others, keep on stomping your feet and screaming that you will "take your ball and go home" if others dont listen to your ramblings because when things fall apart what will you have? Nothing but an empty hole where your hope used to be.

      I am not a fan of politics. I believe the right person for the right job. I think McCain should have ran again. I am not sold on Romney but may not have a choice if the choices are laid out as they are. I am saddened at the amount of people on both sides that waste the energy trying to be right all of the time and trying to defend it as well. Both sides will always be responsible for everything negative when the other party is in office. Fact.

      By the way, if you have never served your country before can you really say what the troops are thinking or should think?

      • 1 vote
      #1.84 - Wed May 2, 2012 7:43 AM EDT

      "Fringe liberal!" There is a new one. I thought anyone to the left of Eisenhower was "fringe" in the minds of the mentally ill. The saddest part of the American political story over the last few decades is that reasonableness, rationality, empathy, and honesty have become thought of as "fringe" by the loudmouth radio stupidity.

      • 2 votes
      #1.85 - Wed May 2, 2012 8:36 AM EDT

      Never have seen or read more trumped up B.S. by a bunch of brainwashed liberals. Seems YOU all are doing the gay bashing by refusing to respect Mr. Grenelle's statement about why he resigned and it having ZERO to do with Mitt Romney or Conservatives. He's worked for Conservatives before and was RESPECTED for the MAN he is and the JOB he performed. Funny thing is, when the libs come across a gay Republican they will say ANYTHING to DISrespect that person's political choice. Same with blacks...Look how respectful they are of Herman Cain or Alan West because they are black and...oh horrors...Republican. Any minority or gay Republicans are collateral damage so they can bash Republicans and foster the liberal lies. I'd say the liberals are "outing" THEMSELVES in their panic and desperation. They can't defend the abyssmal failure of "their man" so blow smoke to refocus on something, ANYthing else no matter if they even have to diss people they CLAIM to embrace. They don't even seem to care if this Grenelle insulted and said rude things about their women. Sorry ladies, you're just more collateral damage, now get under the bus, it's not about you, we're on a mission here. They have a whole cache of distractions they put into action to deflect from their rock star...wealth, contraception, gays, stay at home moms, Christians, dogs, race.. ANYTHING BUT jobs and the economy and our record deficit and debt....redirect, redirect, redirect !!! Is the call that goes out. If the GOP ran a female, black, brilliant, poor, lesbian against Obama, they'd be in real pickle, wouldn't they?... Probably say we hate people with freckles...or something.

      • 1 vote
      #1.86 - Wed May 2, 2012 8:53 AM EDT

      As a life long GOP member, I'm embarrassed. This is the worst shape the party has been in my lifetime.

      The above comment is a perfect example of the desperate grasping we've fallen to.

      • 2 votes
      #1.87 - Wed May 2, 2012 11:04 AM EDT

      Sure, I can tell you're a GOP member...NOT! Who's grasping?

      • 1 vote
      #1.88 - Wed May 2, 2012 2:20 PM EDT

      Aggie, you lose a lot of credibility when you call Liberals names. Can't you just state your position??? Gee how novel.

      That being said, do you HONESTLY think Grinnell would publicly state he was asked to leave? Did you see the ultra conservatives go crazy when he was appointed? In his previous jobs, he was under the radar. Being with Mitt is NOT under the radar and they were not about to allow a gay person to be in such a position.

      Your hypocrisy is stunning actually. You say we redirect, what do you think YOUR side does? I don't give a damn about the dog story, but I DO give a damn about his ideas of wealth (giving yet another tax break for the rich), contraception (your side made it an issue), etc. You guys took the stay at home story to a new low.. and WONT SHUT UP about it... it is old news, yet his wife just KEEPS on talkin'.

        #1.89 - Thu May 3, 2012 3:11 AM EDT

        Wives fan...

        ".... they were not about to allow a gay person to be in such a position."

        And yet they hired him. I'm sure if he was being forced out, he would say so. Why don't you just take the man at his word? I don't think most conservatives even knew he was working with the campaign, or who he was, or knew or cared whether he was gay or not. Seems he was only reprimanded by the GOP for his insulting and rude Tweets to and about certain liberal women, and Mrs. Gingrich.

        .."contraception (your side made it an issue)"

        No sweetie. Obama stepped in it when he acted against the Constitutional right that guarantees religions to practice freely WITHOUT government dictates. And then Pelosi, et al, arrange for Fluke to broadcast her sob story, even though she CHOSE to go to Georgetown University, knowing full well their policies. Then it was arranged for this activist to make "appearances" to put and keep "the issue" front and center. And, if you recall George Stepanopolis MADE it an issue when he would NOT accept Romney's answer to his question concerning contraception, just kept asking, and re-asking the same question over and over, until he literally broke a sweat, hoping he'd get the answer HE wanted. What did he NOT understand when Romeny repeated over an over and over and he has no intention of even attempting to ban contraception. Yeah, the GOP MADE that an issue, suurrre they did.

        Aggie, you lose a lot of credibility when you call Liberals names. Can't you just state your position??? Gee how novel

        Names? What "names" did I call Liberals in my post? Be specific, please.

        "I don't give a damn about the dog story"

        And WHO started out months ago about the car carrier"dog story"? I never could figure out why all of the postured rage over something that happened years and years ago, was not illegal, was a real non-story and was resurrected by liberals.

        "....yet his wife just KEEPS on talkin'."

        So his wife should just be silenced then right? She was minding her own business until Ms. Whatshername tried to diminish her value. While at the same time also diminished the value of stay at home moms in general who "Never worked a day in her life.." Seems Michelle does a lot of stumping for her husband, as do most, if not all, spouses of candidates for any elective office.

        • 1 vote
        #1.90 - Thu May 3, 2012 8:41 AM EDT
        Reply

        "and a Washington Post account of Grenell's resignation suggested the campaign might have faced a backlash due to his sexuality."

        Can we just make it clear who that "backlash" was coming from?

        Here's the actual Post story headline:

        "EXCLUSIVE: Richard Grenell hounded from Romney campaign by anti-gay conservatives"

        • 36 votes
        #2 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

        How'it go JoAnne...

        Even Stevie Wonder could see that!

        • 17 votes
        #2.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:17 PM EDT

        And here's what just one of the anti-gay conservatives mentioned in the Post piece had to say:

        "I agree that Grenell's being openly gay is, in itself, of no consequence for his service in the Romney campaign. Nor is the fact that he supports same-sex
        marriage — if, that is, we were assured that this view would have no influence
        on American foreign policy. But Grenell has made a particular crusade of the
        marriage issue, with a kind of unhinged devotion that suggests a man with
        questionable judgment. And when the Obama State Department is already moving to elevate the gay-rights agenda to a higher plane than religious freedom in the foreign policy of the United States, it is reasonable to wonder whether Grenell, after taking such a prominent place in the Romney campaign's foreign-policy shop, would be in line for an influential State posting where he could pursue his passion for that same agenda."

        http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/297106/who-richard-grenell-anyway-matthew-j-franck

        You heard it here first, people - "the Obama State Department is already moving to elevate the gay-rights agenda to a higher plane than religious freedom in the foreign policy of the United States". And if Mitt Romney was elected, Mr. Grenell would be free to "pursue his passion for that same agenda" even in a Romney State Department.

        Anyone here still think conservatives are eagerly rallying behind Romney?

        • 20 votes
        #2.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

        As if there was a question about conservatives HATING gays, the citations below provide the proof. And now flippie-floppie Romney hates gays too. Surprise, surprise. Following the GOP/TP party lock, stock, and barrel. Hey Romney, question for you .. is there any voting block out there that you do not intend to insult?

        a growing chorus of conservatives are also voicing concern over his possible running mate’s appointment of an openly gay Republican to the New Jersey Supreme Court.

        Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/21/why-christies-judicial-appointments-could-derail-veep-ambitions/#ixzz1ten0vVeE

        If he thinks that the gay-rights agenda doesn’t have any bearing on American foreign policy, he’s not paying attention. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/297194/re-all-means-let-s-worry-about-richard-grenell-matthew-j-franck#

        • 9 votes
        #2.3 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

        Romney actually had a foreign policy spokesman …… Why? Even though President Obama has shaped a successful foreign policy, the only thing plastic man can say is basically; “Obama Bad, Me Good”. For three and a half years these right wing extremists have whined, bitched and lied about everything, I can’t wait for November to finally see them get kicked to the curb.

        • 17 votes
        #2.4 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:34 PM EDT

        Willard, did you neglect to check with the Prophets and Apostles before hiring a gay foreign policy adviser?

        • 9 votes
        #2.5 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

        Really, Joann? The Post. How very, er, odd.

        Did you happen to see or read Jimmy Kimmel's routine last Saturday? A decent president would not have tolerated his homophobic rant-nor his "jokes" about others sexuality. Obama? Homophobic himself, he
        Aughed right along.

        I find it interesting, when out in groups, to hear the conversation, the jokes, the asides. It's funny- but I never hear anything bigoted first hand. Seems people know better than to engage in that kind of conversation around me.

        Funny thing about Obama- they have no problem exposing their true colors around him. Maybe it's because of his own tendencies.

        • 2 votes
        #2.6 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:15 PM EDT

        @texan - didn't joseph smith say a gay couple would appear in Mississippi? Or someplace?

        @Joanne - good quote. Conservatives believe it is absolutely "unhinged" for people they don't like to pursue rights they are guaranteed in the constitution.

        Conservatives never forget - but never admit - that the people being guaranteed rights in the constitution was about 30% of the population. They want to get back to that.

        • 7 votes
        #2.7 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:19 PM EDT

        [Did you happen to see or read Jimmy Kimmel's routine last Saturday?]

        Psst...no jo no brains...Kimmel is a commedian...

        ...don't tell anyone, ok?

        • 9 votes
        #2.8 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:29 PM EDT

        ...don't tell anyone, ok?

        The old broad really needs to loosen those sponge rollers & put down the bottle of Makers Mark!

        • 8 votes
        #2.9 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:41 PM EDT

        [..put down the bottle of Makers Mark!]

        She better not...because it would be gone... ;)

        • 4 votes
        #2.10 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:08 PM EDT

        u da bom,Feisty...

        • 5 votes
        #2.11 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:34 PM EDT

        "HOUNDED...ROMNEY"...cute. I like that

        • 3 votes
        #2.12 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:49 PM EDT

        Where is Joe the Bartender when you need him

          #2.13 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:49 PM EDT

          JimD

          Conservatives believe it is absolutely "unhinged" for people they don't like to pursue rights they are guaranteed in the constitution.

          Which rights might those be?

          • 1 vote
          #2.14 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:54 PM EDT

          How horrible this man might

          supports same-sex marriage

          That he might have

          a kind of unhinged devotion that suggests a man with
          questionable judgment.


          Because he simply wants to marry the person he loves.

          Oh my!


          IT IS UNHINGED TO WANT TO MARRY THE PERSON YOU LOVE?????

          MITT ROMNEY IS UNHINGED...HE MARRIED THE PERSON HE LOVED.

          RONALD REAGAN WAS UNHINGED...HE MARRIED THE PERSON HE LOVED (TWICE)

          GEORGE BUSH #1 IS UNHINGED...HE MARRIED THE PERSON HE LOVED.

          GEORGE BUSH #2 IS UNHINGED...HE MARRIED THE PERSON HE LOVED.


          By that definition (The National Reviews) Every married person is unhinged! (OK only the ones who wanted to marry the person they married!)

          • 3 votes
          #2.15 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:51 PM EDT

          JoAnne in PA

          "and a Washington Post account of Grenell's resignation suggested the campaign might have faced a backlash due to his sexuality."

          Backlash. Yes a horsewhip I think. Oh, I don't remember. It may have been a feather boa. It was dark and I was wearing a full-face leather mask... < wink >

          • 3 votes
          #2.16 - Wed May 2, 2012 3:09 AM EDT

          When are the Mormon hypocrites going to back a constitutional amendment banning poligamy? They are so vehemently anti-gay marriage because they claim it destroys traditional marriage, but they refuse to address poligamy, which has shown that it really does do damage to kids. Now I know you are going to say that the Mormon church no longer practices poligamy. This is true, but they still believe that men will be able to take on more than one wife in the celestial kingdom. Which just confirms the fact that they only stopped practicing poligamy so they could become a state and get federal money. It also gives us insight into their view on women, especially when heaven for them is having multiple women at your beck and call.

          • 2 votes
          #2.17 - Wed May 2, 2012 5:42 AM EDT

          Kaumans0909 -- I actually agree with you... about the socialist France part, since their election is leaning toward a conservative despite the epic failure of right-wing austerity in Europe.

          And it is true Romney was on a mission instead of in the military, which is pretty much a requirement in the Mormon church if you're to have respect... However, Bush Sr. is a great example of a wealthy person who served in the military, and it helped his popularity a great deal.

          Which brings us to the bottom line (regardless of his staff or position on sexual orientation) -- Romney FAILS the basic Commander in Chief test. The word on the street is all that Citizen's United money is likely to switch from the presidential election to congressional races. Hopefully the negative ads Romney is famous for won't be as numerous as anticipated, but progressives need to prepare to get out the vote in regard to local elections.

            #2.18 - Wed May 2, 2012 4:47 PM EDT
            Reply

            I guess LGBT was a bridge to far for the Rombot to flip-flop across. Or maybe Anne was getting worried her "wild and crazy guy" was working so close to someone with a "foreign" policy (wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more, say no more).

            Well, it was only a matter of time before his church told him what to do anyway.

            • 28 votes
            Reply#3 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

            I was gonna suggest that Grennel couldn't handle so many lies in so short a time, then I got to the gay part. That clinched it.

            Without its racist, homophobic and generally bigoted component (maybe 50% of the "base," 30% of the party) the republicans would have no chance whatsoever in national or statewide elections.

            • 5 votes
            #3.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:36 PM EDT

            I would do same if him..he's a smart man leaving.

            • 4 votes
            #3.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

            Really does raise the question of who calls the shots in Willard's campaign.

            His dash to the middle seems to be tethered to the Evangelicals with a bungee cord.

            'I am a severe conservative, and my handlers will make sure it stays that way"

            • 4 votes
            #3.3 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:20 PM EDT

            GOP's gay bashing and ethical cleansing is as fiesty as ever. So the GOP can't be gay (happy)! And the GOP will not have a happy (gay) ending this election cycle, I guess.

            • 3 votes
            #3.4 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:31 PM EDT

            Without its racist, homophobic and generally bigoted component (maybe 50% of the "base," 30% of the party) the republicans would have no chance whatsoever in national or statewide elections.

            Do you have a source for those statistics? Or is this merely another case of stats made up on the spot?

            • 1 vote
            #3.5 - Wed May 2, 2012 5:40 PM EDT
            Reply

            .

            • 2 votes
            Reply#4 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

            Couldn't they have worked something out by sending Mr. Grenell to Marcus Bachmann?

            • 17 votes
            Reply#5 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:17 PM EDT

            If I had to live with that pair of lunatics, I'd neuter myself and change my name to Ken.

            • 13 votes
            #5.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:20 PM EDT
            Reply

            "While I welcomed the challenge to confront President Obama’s foreign policy failures and weak leadership on the world stage, my ability to speak clearly and forcefully on the issues has been greatly diminished by the hyper-partisan discussion of personal issues that sometimes comes from a presidential campaign," Grenell told the Post"

            Bam, you take that Willard? Your own staff knows you're a phony.

            • 22 votes
            Reply#6 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

            So is this guy guy who thinks the Soviet Union still exists?

            • 18 votes
            Reply#7 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

            He can see it from his front door. You know. Russia. His GPS works like Palin's did.

            • 17 votes
            #7.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:52 PM EDT
            Reply

            Mitt may indeed have No Problem working with an openly gay man but he is NOT allowed to because of the party.... the Party of NO!

            No gays

            No women's sexual health

            No immigration reform

            No help for the middle class

            ... and the Hits just keep on coming

            • 33 votes
            Reply#8 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

            Mitt-flopper

            • 14 votes
            #8.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:42 PM EDT

            I know. Ain't it great?

            • 8 votes
            #8.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

            Romney may not have a problem *working* with an openly gay person but probably would never *worship* beside one.

            Look into the LDS (aka Mormon) stance on gays. I'm willing to bet his church is where alot of the pressure is coming from aside from the Republican party.

            • 12 votes
            #8.3 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

            RTypO Are you saying other religions are more open to gays? I think the LDS has the same stance as other religions. Catholic Church for example.

              #8.4 - Wed May 2, 2012 12:13 AM EDT

              Voting independent,

              Are you suggesting a music video of Mitt's best of 2011 / 2012 blunders and bloopers and flip flops? It could easily be a triple set. Yea, the hits just keep coming. A worthy project indeed. Honestly, the GOP makes no scenes at this point. They are collectively grasping at thin air. And yet 40% of the electorate will automatically vote for these smucks anyway. I don't get it.

                #8.5 - Wed May 2, 2012 1:13 AM EDT
                Reply

                Romney's idea of foreign policy is "Let Then Eat Cake " !

                • 10 votes
                Reply#10 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

                Already? :)

                • 4 votes
                Reply#11 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

                I know. LOL

                • 2 votes
                #11.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:50 PM EDT
                Reply

                Gays in the Republican party are some of the most craziest folks in this country. You guys won't be happy until they put you in internment camps! Keep backing the very people who hates you the most. Good luck, people you will need it.

                • 19 votes
                Reply#12 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

                Yea, I cant understand those log cabin Republicans. Why belong to a party that hates you, thinks your morally corrupt and going to burn in hell?

                • 17 votes
                #12.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

                The definition of an optimist, the glass is always full even when the bottom is broken out, the Titanic will never hit an iceberg kind of person is a Log Cabin Republican. Especially a black Muslim gay Republican (not the guy in the article, it's just an example). Why in the world support a political party that openly hates you that much? Your chances of changing it from the inside are virtually nil! Log Cabin Republicans have to the most optimistic people in the world. And be totally nuts.

                • 12 votes
                #12.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

                actually there was a pretty good episode of "West Wing" that dealt with that. I have to admit that they made some sense out of it.

                • 2 votes
                #12.3 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:55 PM EDT

                Log Cabin Republicans belong to the party that hates them because of low taxes. Since they only get lip service (no pun intended) and not much much farther regarding rights with the Democrats, why not take the option that saves their pocketbook.

                You all talk like the Democratic Party supports gay rights to the hilt, but when push comes to shove, they back off their rhetoric for straight votes every single time. For those of you who dont understand the term 'hypocrisy', we'll use a term that you do know...its called "etch-a-sketching"

                  #12.4 - Wed May 2, 2012 4:30 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  Non-issue my ass. He escaped before the tar and feathering began.

                  • 18 votes
                  Reply#13 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:45 PM EDT

                  That's funny. And sadly true.

                  • 1 vote
                  #13.1 - Wed May 2, 2012 1:19 AM EDT

                  But mostly funny.

                  • 1 vote
                  #13.2 - Wed May 2, 2012 1:24 AM EDT
                  Reply

                  "...my ability to speak clearly and forcefully on the issues has been greatly diminished by the hyper-partisan discussion of personal issues that sometimes comes from a presidential campaign."

                  Bigotry, no matter how veiled..thy name is Republican.

                  Pretty sad when a person of his experience and intelligence is treated that disrespectfully because he's gay, by those he aligns with.

                  Maybe he should bring that experience and intelligence to the Obama campaign, and steer things in the "right" direction that way. It's okay to disagree, that insight can be important, and helpful, when communicated properly.

                  • 14 votes
                  Reply#14 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

                  They couldn't stand the idea of someone gay being a part of the military. And when Cheney was president, you had to bow down and kiss the ring of his values to get a job as an interpreter for crying out loud.

                  • 11 votes
                  #14.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

                  remember Cheney's daughter is gay.

                    #14.2 - Wed May 2, 2012 12:15 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    Willard is having trouble retaining staff? Maybe he should hire Mexicans..........

                    • 17 votes
                    Reply#15 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:48 PM EDT

                    Naw then he would have ICE up his azz along with his head. Its called brain freeze.

                    • 7 votes
                    #15.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:51 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    " ... because he had superior qualifications ... "

                    and a conscience? So he left. Imagine that.

                    Works for me.

                    • 9 votes
                    Reply#16 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:48 PM EDT

                    Ah HA! Already? Everybody to the lifeboats! The Commander in Chief wanna be is an idiot.

                    • 6 votes
                    Reply#17 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

                    "While I welcomed the challenge to confront President Obama’s foreign policy failures and weak leadership on the world stage, my ability to speak clearly and forcefully on the issues has been greatly diminished by the hyper-partisan discussion of personal issues that sometimes comes from a presidential campaign," Grenell told the Post.

                    I don't know. Maybe he realized that, while he states that he welcomed confronting President Obama's "weak leadership on the world stage," that he really felt out of his league confronting President Obama.

                    • 14 votes
                    Reply#18 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

                    I agree, what has Obama's "weak" leadership done besides getting us out of Iraq, killing Bin Laden, keeping the pressure on Iran, supporting the effort in freeing Libya, and take the hardest position with China than any president since Truman (if you don't think so look at WTO lawsuits filed against China over illegal trade policies, forcing China to adjust its currency exchange rate, strengthening ties with countries around the Pacific, and still keeping China's human rights issues in the picture), as well as restore our overall image with the world after the damage Bush's "cowboy" caused.

                    • 12 votes
                    #18.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:17 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    The Professional Comedy Writers really gotta hate Mr Romney over stuff like this, how'nell they supposed to top this guy?

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#19 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

                    Of course Romney has no problems with someone being openly gay. He only has a problem with gay people having the same rights as him.

                    • 14 votes
                    Reply#20 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

                    Is Grenell really so stupid as to not understand that this republican party has been captured by the hate mongers of the country? This party now represents those who demean women, hate anyone not like themselves and abhor homosexuality. They want a zealotry based theocracy That is what in in store for this country if Romney is elected. This should be a wake up call to Grenell. Santorum and his flock won this round

                    • 10 votes
                    Reply#21 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

                    LAR: Yes, he really can be this stupid. Hey, what about Gay, Black GOPers? Now that one is a really a riddle.

                    • 5 votes
                    #21.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:06 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Why did Matt Rhoades have to say Grenell resigned for his own personal reasons. Why not just say the Republican BASE wouldn't support a candidate who has openly gay advisors? We no longer need to refer to "the vocal evangelical christian base". The BASE of the Republican Party has shifted. The fiscally conservative, but socially liberal or socially middle of the road are now on the fringe of the Party. The religion in politics and government in your personal life is your Republican Base. THIS IS NOT THE PARTY OF LINCOLN

                    • 11 votes
                    Reply#22 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

                    re.: lincoln. true enough. The GOPiggies have not been the party of Lincoln for 100-120 years.

                    • 5 votes
                    #22.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:28 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Ken Mehlman comes to mind. He was at one time the RNC Chairman and also served as a Compaign Manager for Dubya/Cheney.

                    Poor sap, he was so conflicted he didn't come out until the end of that administration.

                    Republican gays have to be the worst of the worst!...They hate themselves and will do anything for money.

                    • 8 votes
                    Reply#23 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

                    CHILLED: Yes, the weasle didn't have the guts to do it until the very end. Tells you how even he knows his own party wouldn't accept him.

                    The real puzzle is when you see someone who is both Gay and Black and a Republican. Insane.

                    • 10 votes
                    #23.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:08 PM EDT

                    "The real puzzle is when you see someone who is both Gay and Black and a Republican. Insane."

                    Yup Ozzie, someone would be certifiably insane!

                    • 1 vote
                    #23.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:20 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Romney says he would have protected America from Bin Laden, but he can't even protect his gay foreign policy adviser from social conservatives. I'm not sure if it says more about Romney, or social conservatives.

                    Romney show some real integrity and refuse this man's resignation!

                    • 11 votes
                    Reply#24 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

                    Naw, that would require some INTEGRITY!

                    • 2 votes
                    #24.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:13 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Give him credit, he lasted 2 weeks.........

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#25 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:08 PM EDT

                    Are you talking about Mitt's dog ?

                    • 3 votes
                    #25.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:34 PM EDT

                    The difference being?

                      #25.2 - Wed May 2, 2012 1:33 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      Wow - an Openly Gay Guy not being able to in the public eye in the Republican Party? I am shocked by such an announcement.

                      • 7 votes
                      Reply#26 - Tue May 1, 2012 6:18 PM EDT
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