First Thoughts: The politics of bin Laden, one year later

DUE TO TECHNICAL ERROR, FIRST THOUGHTS WAS LATE PUBLISHING.

The bin Laden killing, one year later – how quickly things change … Republicans cry foul that Obama campaign is using the death as a reelection weapon … Foreign policy vs. the economy (it’s still the economy) … Is Obama the Warrior in Chief? … Another veep tryout – this time it’s Romney with New Hampshire Sen. Kelly Ayotte. … Gingrich to drop out Wednesday.

Believe it or not, tomorrow marks a year since Osama bin Laden was killed. We wrote then: “While it’s doubtful that Osama bin Laden’s death will have as long of a political impact [as 9/11] -- especially in this fast-changing, short-term memory media landscape -- it will surely shape the contours of next year’s presidential race. … Last night changes everything (for now), but we also know how quickly it can dissipate.” And dissipate it did. The president’s bump – for something that was as big a singular accomplishment that any president could have -- was short-lived, because of the economy and the debt-ceiling fight. It’s a reminder of just how important the economy is that the bump was never as big as it would have been under normal circumstances. (By the way, NBC’s Rock Center went inside the decision making of the killing of bin Laden. Brian Williams previewed his interview with the president on Meet the Press. The full show, with interviews of others that were in the room) airs Wednesday at 9:00 pm ET.

Caption: NBC's Domenico Montanaro discusses the politics of the one year anniversary of the Osama Bin Laden raid, and New Hampshire Senator Kelly Ayotte gets a look as a possible vice president for  Mitt Romney.

*** Playing politics: Republicans are crying foul at the Obama campaign’s touting of the killing (and using it in a campaign video charging that Mitt Romney might not have made the same call. There are two lines of attack: (1) Republicans are trying to minimize the accomplishment, saying anyone would have done it; and (2) They say he’s politicizing everything, including foreign policy. Ed Gillespie, an adviser to the Romney campaign and former Bush adviser said on Meet the Press: “This is one of the reasons President Obama has become one of the most divisive presidents in American history. He took something that was a unifying event … and he’s managed to turn it into a divisive, partisan, political attack. … I think most Americans will see it as a sign of a desperate campaign.” It’s fascinating to watch Democrats try to demagogue foreign policy, the way Republicans do and have done over the years (see Cheney, Dick in 2004). Republicans usually find themselves almost overreacting when Democrats go over the top in their foreign policy attacks. Count on some REALLY heated cable and Twitter rhetoric this week on this topic as the run-up to the bin Laden anniversary kicks in.

Saul Loeb / AFP - Getty Images

President Barack Obama speaks to troops at Third Infantry Division Headquarters at Fort Stewart in Hinesville, Georgia, on April 27, 2012, prior to Obama signing an Executive Order to protect them from deceptive targeting by educational institutions.

*** Warrior in Chief? The Romney campaign has pushed the issue of foreign policy, trying to paint Obama as weak and appeasing (especially when it comes to Iran). The GOP would have liked to paint the picture of Obama as a feckless, weak president, lacking strength. But despite the rhetoric, Obama’s foreign policy has been incredibly muscular. In fact, Peter Bergen of the New America Foundation in the New York Times Sunday Review provocatively casts President Obama as the “Warrior in chief,” ticking off several of Obama’s foreign-policy raids, killings, and use of drones. The death of bin Laden undercut any hopes Republicans had of being able to paint Obama as Jimmy Carter. And he makes the point of this disconnect: “Despite countervailing evidence, most conservatives view the president as some kind of peacenik. From both the right and left, there has been a continuing, dramatic cognitive disconnect between Mr. Obama’s record and the public perception of his leadership….” Make no mistake, had it failed, that’s exactly how he would have been portrayed. Bergen writes that if Romney runs a risk when criticizing Obama on foreign policy. If he tries to portray him as “a typical, weak-on-national-security Democrat,” then “he will very likely trap himself into calling for a war with Iran, which many Americans oppose.”

 

*** McCain as top foreign-policy attack dog: Taking the lead on the attack, though, is Sen. John McCain, Obama’s 2008 opponent (who also believes Obama hasn’t had courage to act in Syria). McCain, now a Romney surrogate, said Obama’s “diminishing the memory of September 11th,” and accused him of “doing a shameless end-zone dance.” It’s a fine line. McCain clearly doesn’t mind playing this role. He says things Romney couldn’t get away with and it’s something that’s quite beneficial to Romney. If Romney said what McCain did, Romney might get ridiculed. It’s an interesting role that McCain is willing to play. It could be a preview of the role McCain might play going forward in the campaign -- traditional role of VP, but on foreign policy. McCain doesn’t mind going personal with Obama, as he’s demonstrated since 2008. You can try to explain away McCain’s motives all you want, but it could be oddly effective for Romney.

USA Today's Susan Page, The Washington Post's Dan Balz, and The Chicago Tribune's Clarence Page discuss the Romney campaign's accusation that President Obama is politicizing the death of Osama Bin Laden.

*** STILL THE ECONOMY: But for all the talk of foreign policy and how much credit Obama deserves or whether or how he should be touting it, the most important issue this election – as it was a year ago -- remains the economy. It should be like a flashing red sign – IT’S THE ECONOMY, IT’S THE ECONOMY. Jobs will get a fresh look Friday when the latest report comes out. The unemployment rate has been essentially flat for three months. Even though the rate has come down from a high of 10.0%, if the rate continues to appear not to drop very much or the trajectory seems flat, that is going to be a problem for the incumbent president. Watch the trajectory; it will tell you the whole ballgame.

*** Another veep tryout: Today’s another veep tryout with Romney and New Hampshire Sen. Kelly Ayotte at 10:50 am ET. Though she’s been a senator for just two years, Ayotte served as New Hampshire’s attorney general (she was appointed by Republican Craig Benson in 2003 and RE-appointed by a Democratic governor). The Republican Party’s problems with women have been well documented over the last few months. If Romney is going to pick a woman, the most serious candidate is likely Ayotte. That is, aside from Condoleezza Rice if she wants it, and there’s no indication she does. But the shadow of Palin still looms large over the GOP pick, and the Romney team may be more risk averse because of it. But as GOP 12’s Heinze wrote last week: “Sarah Palin didn't prove that picking a woman doesn't help with women. Palin was simply the wrong woman.” (By the way, over the weekend, NBC’s Alex Moe reported that Newt Gingrich would officially drop out Wednesday.)

*** Obama fundraises with Clinton: There were a couple striking things at the fundraiser with President Clinton this weekend at the home of Terry McAuliffe: (1) How little Romney was mentioned. After a weekend and week of going after Romney personally, last night was more in line with where the Obama campaign was when this campaign first started -- go after the entire GOP. It was more the theme of -- they want to take you back, it’s their failed economic policies on steroids, not the party of Abe Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt; it’s not their Republican Party. (2) This was not an ordinary Obama fundraiser speech. Here, he was trying to follow one of the Democratic Party’s best economic communicators. Obama knew he was on friendly turf, but not the friendliest turf, as he was trying to appeal to Clinton people. One Democratic source who is more of a member of Team Clinton than Team Obama described last night as kind of like a “first date” between Clinton and Obama; For the first time, this person could actually see the two of them starting to bond; It took a while for Clinton to get over 2008 but so far, things have gone well in this courtship. Two more Obama-Clinton fundraisers to go; New York and PROBABLY Hollywood.

*** A way to bring up Seamus: Don’t overlook the fact that the White House used the opportunity of the White House Correspondents Dinner -- when they knew they’d get lighter coverage for what they did – put a story that they’ve struggled to put into the mainstream, quietly trying to do for months, the Seamus story. It was frankly a way to get Seamus out there. Yes, Obama made fun of himself and eating dog, but they’ll take that to get the Seamus story mainlined; They’ve been trying for months.

** Waiting on Lugar’s fate: There are just eight days until the Indiana Senate primary that could see the ouster of the most senior Republican in the Senate. AP today wonders whether Richard Lugar waited too long to brand his opponent. On Friday, the 2008 GOP presidential ticket split its endorsement – John McCain endorsed Lugar; Sarah Palin endorsed his challenger and Tea Party favorite, state Treasurer Richard Mourdock. Mitt Romney said he was staying out of it. A poll aligned with Mourdock showed him up 44-39% Thursday. The Fort Wayne Journal Gazette headline: “Hundreds cheer Mourdock at city rally.” The rally was organized by Tea Party Express, which has played a big role in this race.

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The GOP does not have the right to cry foul. They're trying to get elected back to the White House based on a campaign of misinformation an lies the relies on the public either being miseducated or suffering from amnesia.

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Reply#81 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

miseducated

?? That's pretty funny ...

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#81.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

I can make up words too: you are misintelligent.

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#81.2 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:46 AM EDT

Ahh, the faithful of the biggest butcher of the English language ever. GW Bush, the misunderestimated decider! lol

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#81.3 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:32 PM EDT
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Gotta give credit to Obama for making the call to go into Pakistan, but one thing irks me, I know he would not have accepted responsibility if things went south. Also, there was much hype about the CIA being in Pakistan when that contractor was arrested and I just want to say that without them, Osama would still be alive today, so a big thank you to our folks at the CIA. Obama did the right thing with that case too. If only he would straighten up some of his policies, he'd have more support from realistic people.

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Reply#82 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

but one thing irks me, I know he would not have accepted responsibility if things went south.

You don't know that ~ it is an assumption based on pure speculation. Obama has been fairly free in recognizing all those who made the mission possible and is on record doing so. The fact remains that bin Laden was offed on Obama's watch and he has every right to call attention to it ~ just as much as if it had failed and his counterparts would have made that a campaign issue just as they did Carter's failed rescue mission of the iranian hostages. Maybe if Obama had staged a carrier landing to celebrate his accomplishments, he would be held in greater esteem by those who revered Bush's little theatre antics.

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#82.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:50 AM EDT

You don't know that ~ it is an assumption based on pure speculation.

I'm fairly certain of it based on his past blaming of others when things go wrong.

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#82.2 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:05 PM EDT

Exactly what "things" would you be referring to? I notice your posts are pretty generic. Let's have some specifics.

    #82.3 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:44 PM EDT
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    May 9, 2011

    Is Obama a Serial Liar?

    By

    Nancy Morgan

    Accusing someone of lying is a serious matter. Especially when that someone is the President of the United States. Charges of that nature should be leveled based only on absolute proof of a deliberate statement, intentionally made, whose sole purpose is to deceive. Based on this criterion, President Obama is a liar. Demonstrably so. And a disturbing pattern is emerging that allows for the possibility that our president is a serial liar. Consider:

    In just the last month, Obama has made several statements that are just not so. Statements made to the American public that were in direct conflict with known facts.

    In April, Obama flatly stated that implementing ObamaCare will

    reduce the deficit by $1 trillion . A day later, the Congressional Budget Office reported that statement was 'incorrect,'

    pegging the "deficit savings" at $210 billion over 10 years.

    In the same April 15 speech, Obama stated that the tax burden on the wealthy is the lowest it has been in 50 years. A simple

    fact-check

    proves him wrong. Obama did not correct his false statement and the media didn't either.

    In January of 2009,

    Obama stated that it was no longer necessary to kill Osama bin Laden to win the war against al-Qaeda. On May 1, 2011, after the successful raid by Navy Seals that killed bin Laden, Obama told the nation that he made the capture or killing of Osama bin Laden a "top priority," and had instructed CIA Chief Leon Panetta to make this job number one.

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    Reply#83 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

    The GOP is now the grand old poopers.

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    Reply#84 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

    And the democrats are the same ol' kool-aid drinking morons.

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    #84.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

    Jerry your name shows how you hide behind a name to say negative things. Hey to thy own self be true........

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    #84.2 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:50 AM EDT
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    Did Eisenhower run around yakking about he was the Supreme Commander on D-Day when he ran? Actually he was using the "Are you better off than your were 4 years ago" bit.

    I'm voing Romeny in and than out. Rinse and repeat.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#85 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

    Ah, Republicans - the Slytherins of politics. No evil too evil for them.

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    Reply#86 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

    Great analogy. Now, go read an adult book for a change.

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    #86.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:43 AM EDT

    Why read? Its on display right before your eyes.

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    #86.2 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:52 AM EDT
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    If it was a GOP or better still George , his head would be on Mt . Rushmore already . Probably he would be there with a bullhorn . The Obama adminisrtation must gloat as it is their right and priviledge get over the bellyaching' Isn't everything politics?

      Reply#87 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

      Although the repubs lie about everything they might have one small point here given repubs have no history regarding any successes they can point to.

      I remember the coward of crawford on the aircraft carrier proclaiming "mission accomplished", when we did NOT accomplish any such mission. Also, after being warned of an attack by OBL a full month before it happened this same empty suit did NOTHING to try to prevent it.

      The slogan for the repubs is "gop; Successful at being FAILURES"...

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      Reply#88 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

      And Obama & Biden proclaiming the recession is over last summer?

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      #88.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:46 AM EDT

      On a bigger scale, Scott....isn't it strange that every one of the GOP candidates, claimed to be more 'Reagan-like' than the others....but not one ever mention the name Bush this entire political season? It's like they feel the need to go back a generation, before bringing up a Republican Presidents game. I suppose they're hoping we forget the Bush family years.

        #88.2 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:25 PM EDT

        Also, after being warned of an attack by OBL a full month before it happened this same empty suit did NOTHING to try to prevent it

        Well, Clinton blew off the danger and I guess it was good enough for GW.

          #88.3 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:38 PM EDT
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          Let's see. The Republicans think it is somehow not FAIR to remind folks that President Bush drug us into two wars and spent over seven years trying to accomplish this feat, but it took President Obama being Commander in Chief to get it done! Reminds me of the bunch of kindergarteners they most resemble.

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          Reply#89 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

          I know Bush is no longer in office, do you? We're talking about the new ass-clown-in-chief.

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          #89.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

          Watch your words. If you can't do anything else, Respect our President.......

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          #89.2 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:53 AM EDT

          Oh, you mean the "new ass-clown" who did what Bush couldn't do ~ ~ get Osama!

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          #89.3 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:55 AM EDT

          What president would've hampered the search for Bin Laden? What president would've said "no", rather than "go"? Saying that Obama is unique in this matter is like saying that he's unique in not supporting genocide of American citizens.

          Non-issue, if there ever was one.

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          #89.4 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:05 PM EDT

          Bush that's who Tim. Does Tora Bora ring a bell to you?

            #89.5 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:47 PM EDT

            @ Tim:

            Non-issue, if there ever was one.

            Apparently it's NOT a non-issue. Otherwise, you wouldn't have expounded your lack of knowledge upon us.

              #89.6 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

              Tim, Clinton told them not to blow him away. Guess that would be one who said no.

                #89.7 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:40 PM EDT

                Tim W., the fact Bush is no longer in office does not excuse the deficits in his performance while there, at least some of which have not been addressed by the present Administration. For Republicans to whine about have this pointed out is, well, typical of their stupidity and sense of entitlement!

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                #89.8 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:49 PM EDT
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                Republicans---stop the whining please. We had to put up with you using 9/11 to justify lots of things and you know you used 9/11 in the 2004 and 2008 elections, so give it a rest. Such a bunch of hypocrits. When a Republican President travels, or acts silly on camera (remember Bush dancing around), or uses some important event (9/11) for political advantage, that is OK, but if President Obama gives a speech on student loans, or slow jams with Jimmy Fallon, or tells the story behind the Bin Laden raid, he is frivolous, un-presidential, ripping off the tax payers, and being bad. Stop watching Fox News and think for yourselves. It will improve your thinking and our country.

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                Reply#90 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

                Not being bad. Being redundant, ineffectual, lame and weak.

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                #90.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

                So what if Bush was bad. How does that make Obama's record any better? If they both suck, be glad to be rid of both.

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                #90.2 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:49 AM EDT

                President Obama is going to be recognized as one of the Best President ever to hold the chair.

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                #90.3 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:54 AM EDT

                I don't know about that, Doc ~ but he will hold it for four more years. That may or may not be good for us all but it will continue the agony these pompous, hardshell rightwing miscreants are enduring. That in and of itself can't be such a bad thing.

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                #90.4 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

                Is he really that good at holding chairs? Okay, I'll give him the chair holding thing.

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                #90.5 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:04 PM EDT

                It's been, in Mitts words, a marvelous 3.5 years for me. Doing much better now than I ever did when the shrub was in office. 4 more years will be icing on the cake!

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                #90.6 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

                Definition of a Republican: whining liar who whines even more when called on it.

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                #90.7 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:50 PM EDT
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                This will get boring, nothing else to run on so we will see this garbage on OBL killing for months on end.

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                Reply#91 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

                What president would've hampered the search for Bin Laden? What president would've said "no", rather than "go"? Saying that Obama is unique in this matter is like saying that he's unique in not supporting genocide of American citizens.

                Non-issue, if there ever was one.

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                Reply#92 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

                Bush on both counts. Any more questions?

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                #92.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

                EXcellent Response

                  #92.2 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:37 PM EDT

                  Don't forget Clinton.

                    #92.3 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:41 PM EDT
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                    OBAMA'S OWN WORDS:

                    2008: "Navy Seal Team 6 is Cheney's private assassination team."
                    2011: "I put together Seal Team 6 to take out Bin Laden."

                    2008: "Bin Laden is innocent until proven guilty, and must be captured alive and given a fair trial."
                    2011: "I authorized Seal Team 6 to kill Bin Laden."

                    2008: " Guantanamo is entirely unnecessary, and the detainees should not be interrogated."
                    2011: "Vital intelligence was obtained from Guantanamo detainees that led to our locating Bin Laden."

                    No, Mr. Obama, you would never use this to your political advantage would you?

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                    Reply#93 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

                    Don't be too hard on Obama, he just sort of went along for the ride on the whole thing.

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                    #93.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:44 AM EDT

                    Ignorance breeds ignorance.... open your eyes...... broaden your horizons.... in other words......

                    Don't be ignorant!

                      #93.2 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:56 AM EDT
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                      The Republicans are trying to use everything and anything against Obama, because they know the only chance of winning in November is to use scare tactics, and any other misgivings just to try to sway the vote to their, " yes, I am Rich", " my friends are NFL owners", and " yes, I like to fire people". And as for Ryan, if Romney stops to fast, Ryan will have a broken nose.

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                      Reply#94 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

                      What could they possibly be scared about, Obama after all only spent as much as Bush did, he just did it in half the time. As for rich, did you see who was at the dinner the other night? Are the republican's really the only rich people out there?

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                      #94.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

                      Exactly Dan. Of course, liberals will blow that off as those people always come to the dinner/roast.

                        #94.2 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:43 PM EDT
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                        The GOP had complete control of the House, the Senate and the White House from 2000 to 2006.

                        Let's see, what did they accomplish that left the nation better off than when they started?????

                        Case closed...

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                        Reply#95 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

                        AHHHH but, listening to all you libs, the collapse started in 2007. The first year of Democrat majority in both the House and Senate. Case re opened and now closed.

                          #95.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:45 PM EDT
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                          Another morning, another cup of coffee, and another laugh at the pathetic loosers who spend their mornings firing cheap insults from the privacy of their homes. We get it, you like Obama and hate Romney. Now, get some therapy and move on.

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                          Reply#96 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

                          For years now, the GOP has been trying to convince me that Obama is a Muslin who grew up in Kenya. They also try to convince me that he is not a US citizen and never fail to remind me that his middle name is Hussein. Given all that, if I were Obama, I would be bragging too. Way to go Mr. President!

                            Reply#97 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

                            Wasn't there a time not too long ago when 9-11 and the fear of Osama was used exploited by GOP for political gains?

                              Reply#98 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

                              OBAMA GOT USAMA , OBAMA GOT USAMA , SING IT NOW , OBAMA GOT USAMA !!!! ; come on republicans , you don't have to be soooooo jealous !!!!!!!!

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                              Reply#99 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

                              obama got Osama is like saying Nixon went to the moon. obama didn't get squat. He is just the temporary occupant of the white house!!!!

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                              #99.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:55 AM EDT
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                              Aww...republicans, conservatives and teabaggers are still butthurt over President Obama getting OBL.

                              Get used to that feeling, goobers. There's LOTS more to come!

                                Reply#100 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

                                OMG - How dare he talk about the killing of the mastermind of 9/11 - after how many years, how many young American lives, how much taxpayer money poured into the mistake called the War on Terror? Who doesn't remember Bush/Cheney fear-mongering like champions before the 2004 elections? "If you don't elect us... it will happen again." They're just mad that he's actually got something to brag about. Excellent job, Mr. President. You've got my vote in 2012.

                                  Reply#101 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

                                  So what was all that "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" crap? And Bush didn't even have anything to show for it!

                                    Reply#102 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

                                    The GoP used the terrorist card for 8 years to bolster their political power, Obama gave the order to put Bin Laden down...seems only fair that he gets to use that as well. They're just mad that they didn't get him first.

                                      Reply#103 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

                                      Too funny. GOP wouldn't even concede Obama was an American and a Christian, and many of them still won't, but they chastise him for remembering the killing of one of our most hated enemies.

                                      Truth is stranger than fiction.

                                        Reply#104 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

                                        It is what it is- Bush was asked in 2005 about Bin Laden and he said" dont think much about him he is insignificant or words to that affect- screw the GOP they are still screwing us

                                          Reply#105 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:40 AM EDT
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