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NEW YORK -- Vice President Joe Biden charged Thursday that a flip-flopping Mitt Romney remains "mired in a Cold War mindset" and has "a profound misunderstanding of the responsibilities of a president and a commander in chief."
In one of the Obama campaign's harshest critiques of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney to date, Biden accused the GOP's presumptive nominee of cravenly criticizing the president on policies he's previously backed, unwisely planning to "outsource" foreign policy decision-making to the State Department, and being "completely out of touch" with the realities of the global stage today.
And he implied that his boss's chief rival would not have taken the same action as the president in greenlighting a risky operation to kill 9/11 mastermind Osama bin Laden.
"You can't say for certain what Gov. Romney would have done," Biden said of Obama's decision in remarks to a crowd of about 500 students and foreign policy buffs at New York University's School of Law.
Invoking his unofficial slogan for the 2012 re-election campaign -- "Bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive" -- Biden warned, "You have to ask yourself, if Gov. Romney were president, could he have used the same slogan in reverse?"
Much of Biden's over-45 minute address centered on President Barack Obama's leadership in officially ending the Iraq War, drawing down troop levels in Afghanistan, and pulling the trigger on a bin Laden mission that the vice president said would have ended Obama's political career if it failed.
In each case, Biden argued that Romney at some past point in his political career had voiced support for those objectives but had criticized them for political expediency during the GOP primary.
"In the face of the challenges that we now understand are ahead of us, what would Gov. Romney do?" he asked. "The truth is we don't know for certain but we know where the governor starts. He starts with a profound misunderstanding of the responsibilities of a president and a commander in chief."
Biden, a longtime Democratic leader of the Senate Foreign Relations committee, said that Romney hopes to "outsource" international policy issues to the State Department, citing a 2007 quote in which the former Massachusetts governor said "a president is not a foreign policy expert."
"That kind of thinking may work for a CEO but I assure you it will not and cannot work for a president," Biden said.
In a conference call with reporters held before the vice president's speech, Romney's foreign policy advisers pushed back on the idea that the GOP leader would return the United States to unpopular Bush-era policies, dubbing the current commander-in-chief's worldview a "Carter/Obama doctrine" that deviates from America's traditional exercise of "peace through strength."
The vice president's address was the fifth "framing speech" in a series intended to draw stark contrasts between Obama and Romney, although today's was the first since Romney's GOP rivals Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum announced their withdrawals from the primary contest.
Biden's tone was somber for much of the speech, although he won laughter from the mostly student-aged crowd when describing the president's decisiveness.
"This guy's got a backbone like a ramrod. For real. For real," he insisted as the audience giggled.
And, quoting the old foreign policy adage to "speak softly and carry a big stick," Biden responded with his own, well, schtick.
"I promise you, the president has a big stick," he said.
NBC's Garrett Haake contributed
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Who's Romney?
Oh yea, the guy from Mass, Michigan, Califoria, New Hamphire . . .
Did I miss any of his other home states?
That guy can't touch the Prez on National Security. If he even was stupid enough to try, bam . . . Obama would wack him with that big stick.
What these two do in the bedroom should stay in the bedroom.
The funny part there?
Of all 4 of his 'Home' states...he's going to lose them all.
because he likes to live in nice places (sans Michigan). And nice places? They vote Democrat.
I wonder if Willard visits his money in the Caymans? or in Switzerland?
...maybe has a great little bungalow or chalet.
I'm glad Uncle Joe is on our side.
Romney = out of touch "weirdo cult member ".A real danger to the people of the USA ! He will raid the medicare and social security funds and steal them like he did to the pension funds of the company's Bain Capital took over !
Dick Cheney, mastermind of ten years of deficit-growing wars, failed- Osama-killer, no foreign policy successes to point to, Bush VP, endorses Romney. Enuff' said!
Hey O'Bama, the White House Village Idiot is loose. Did someone leave the door unlocked? Biden needs to take his Meds. and go back to bed. All O'Bama is make excuses for the U.S., bow down to other leaders, and basically become a non-player on the International Diplomacy Arena, he is viewed as an ineffective paper-tiger who is willing to betray his friends for a vote. I'm sure everyone can recall his deal with the Russians that all the World heard. The U.S. Economy dies, O'Bama increases Government Entitlement Dependence and encourages people not to produce and not to work. Look at O'Bama's actions (not his promises) and compare them to Dictator's of past History.
Biden, lets not get carried away; Romney has done business all over the world, he has investments in several country's, his holding company employed many analysis, to determine investment safety, political and economic stability of a business investment in a foreign enterprise, just as the Bush family did, Just as the Kennedy family did, just as the Roosevelt family did, so Joe do not get carried away with your rhetoric.
JoAnnaSmith1
What these two do in the bedroom should stay in the bedroom
You have many character flaws. Today we learn you are also a freak.
It should be interesting to find other character flaws of yours as banal.
Yours appears to be being stupid.
Nope, poor Joanna, no one does stupid better than you!
...I am now hoping you are a very young lady. And pretty, too. And have a husband/father who is a very educated, very hard worker.
Mitt's decision to trot out Rubio before us as a possible VP just adds to his foreign policy woes. Rubio has no experience whatsoever and Rubio has also chimed in with support of Mitt's view of war as being their first response to today's foreign policy issues.
Mitt may as well have strapped Palin to the top of his car and trotted her out. Both Palin and Rubio share the same background on foreign policy as they both have a similar view - Palin can see Russia from her back porch and Rubio can see Cuba from his.
This story made me laugh. Guess no one noticed the turmoil in the middle east, or in N. Korea. The only administration worse then this one on foreign affairs is the Johnson administration. You people that voted for Obama are the same ones that voted for John Edwards. They keep fooling you people over and over and you keep falling for it.
Romney wants to increase defense spending to such an extent that the only way his budget could be balanced would be to eliminate all entitlements completely. To top that off, Rubio who has been on the stump with Romney confirmed he is a neocon who supports the Bush Doctrine of preemptive and unilateral action. WTF?
Aside from President Obama finishing the job Dubya failed to do such as getting bin Laden, there is NO Teapublican who could compete with the president, VP Biden, and Hillary Clinton.
saxon -- Riiight, being a businessman makes one qualified to be Commander in Chief, riiight. Hey, how are ya feeling about Romney's "French Connection?" -- Hahaha to all the right-wing French bashers.
Did Biden just confirm what Sinclair said?
This will be the fodder for jokes worldwide.
Uhh, make that "out of touch" on every issue except tax cuts for the 1%!
And Obama is such a whiz at it. Barry and his Russian friends know he'll have more "flexibility" after the election, except for the fact that Obama won't be there.
Obama's foreign policy is to do what Sarkozy tells him to do.
So Romney would shout publicly to the world, as the republicans have been doing. What the President discusses with other world leaders? Wow. You guys REALLY don't understand foreign policy. But! I like that quote from Biden. Usama Bin Laden is dead. And Detroit is alive. Had it been Flipp Romney. He's right. It would be Detroit is dead, and Usama is still alive. THANK GOD for elections. And thank god Flipp Romney has decided to pick this foreign policy fight. He will, like his Flippy domestic policies(Depending on the day/state/month or yr) lose that argument as well. Flipp on Flipp Romney. Flipp on! :-)
Whilemi do not know what Obama discusses with world leaders, I, and every other American paying attention, know what the results of those discussions achieves-
One failure after another.
Now, go on and remind me that Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize for having been elected the first African American president. They gave that award to the wrong person- it should have been presented to the American electorate.
Be that Asia may, Obama has proven completely, hopelessly, inept on the world stage. From stupidity- getting the YEAR wrong when he signed the guest book at Buskinham Palace- to arrogance- referring to the Maldives, rather than the Malvinas, when he should have referred to the Falklands-to his.mishandling of Iran and North Korea-no one, Audi mean no one, could be worse.
Romney will better.
no joe your grammer is improving keep up the good work, someday you may make sense....or not.
JOE= Prime example of "No Child Left Behind".
@ Tis your spelling however appears to be lacking...... It is "grammar" not "grammer". What is that old saying about glass houses? LOL
My sincerest apologies. . .
I was typing that when I heard a noise. A running water noise. I hit post and went to investigate. . .
The feed line to the downstairs toilet broke. You have any idea how much water runs through one of those lines?
I was, kind of, too busy to come back and edit.
Uh huh - sure you were Donna! *wink wink* lmao
Face it - people are on to your pathological serial liar status sweetie!
How's the rental property working out for you these days babe?
What experience has he had......missionary work in France followed by several 'nice' vacations in Paris and its surroundings???
Wonder how the GOPTP will reconcile themselves to being pro French now that their leader has made such positive statements about his time there?
The only foreign policy Romney knows is what the former Bush administration advisers who now are signed on to his campaign tell him to think. He history is bereft of foreign experience and studies and it shows.
Jimmy Carter was Governor - no foreign policy experience
Ronald Reagan was a Governor - no foreign policy experience
George Bush I - Had considerable foreign policy experience
Bill Clinton was Governor - no foreign policy experience
George Bush II was a Governor - no foreign policy experience
Barack Obama was a Senator for a couple years (never much showed up), a State Senator, and a Community Organizer - no foreign policy experience.
President Obama has done more in 3 1/2 years with foreign policy then W & the Dick did in 8!
For that matter which one of the morons on Willard's short list has any foreign policy experience?
I can't wait to see Willard go toe to toe with Captain Kickass!
Go fill up your feed bag Snuffy - you're running on empty!
"George Bush II was a Governor - no foreign policy experience"...and no brain!
Look where that cowboy took this country. Thousands of deaths and billions of dollars ill spent....
Oh goody! Let's do it again.........NOT!
Obama/Biden 2012
That quote could only come from someone who started the cocktail hour, 3 hours early! What horsespit! The damage Obama has done far outweighs the good he has done as President. As a matter of fact, I can't see any good he has done.... unless you want to count the times he's been on vacation and wasn't around the WH to implement more onerous economic policies, lol!
Didn't realize Obama was a cowboy.
Little Billy - go back to the truck-stop and troll for your mama!
Maybe she'll finally reveal who your daddy is.
Then you can change your last name to the state he's from rather then all 50!
On second thought, all 50 might be more appropriate given your mothers reputation!
I bet you can't name any damage that President Obama has done to the United States.
Remember give us FACTS.
I can't wait to see Willard go toe to toe with Captain Kickass!
Well, I can't wait to see Romney go toe to toe with "Captain
Kickass either. I also can't wait to see Bitme Biden going toe to toe with Rubio.carrot top, I have a phobia about truck stops ever since you tried to pick me up at one sometime ago. When you asked me to buy you a boilermaker, I looked up and ran for my life!!
The only good thing Obama did in regards to foreign policy was to grudgingly kill OBL. But That would never have happened if Bush's security protocols were still in place! Other than that Obama has done nothing overseas other than apologise for 'America's aggression'!!
What scares me the most about Romney, GBM (and there are many things) is that it seems like he would govern like Bush---the "CEO model"----have his staff brief him on issues and make a decision. And since most of his advisors are Bush retreads, the nature of the advice he would receive is troubling as are the decisions he would make without doing his own due diligence.
Job1 - remember the GNOP can't deal with the facts...."THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"!
JAS1..."Didn't realize Obama was a cowboy"
Deflecting from your own post are ya'.........
It's OK 'cause you know in your heart of hearts that Dubya, what's the TeaPeople favorite talking point, was a failure!
Unless you believe thousands of deaths based on lies, Billions in deficit spending, equates to leadership.
correction to post 3.9:
Flip Romney will not be elected President. He is too much of a Nervous Nelly. That Nervous Nelly laugh comes out especially when someone gets in his face. So, can you image what will happen when the President gets into his face during the debates?
Just look video of when he is asked tough questions. He falls apart, such as, “oh, oh, if, I did, I didn’t, go vote for someone else, leave me alone, I didn’t say that, help, corporations are people to, I know business, I fire people, help. “
The debates between the President and Nervous Nelly Romney should be fun to watch. I bet you $10,000.00 that corporations are people too.
Also, Uncle Joe will spank that little teleprompter boy Rubio, that has been following Flip around.
It seems the (so-called) party of the future, can only
talkwhine about the past. Pity.Careful what you ask for .. according to Santorum, this leads to man-on-dog.
JAS better to use the past as a reference than try to go back in time and live there again.
Here you go Job1:
ITEM
Jan 09
Feb 12
% Chng
Source
Avg. retail price/gallon gas in U.S.
$1.83
$3.104
69.6%
1
Crude oil, European Brent (barrel)
$43.48
$99.02
127.7%
2
Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel)
$38.74
$91.38
135.9%
2
Gold: London (per troy oz.)
$853.25
$1,369.50
60.5%
2
Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL
$3.56
$6.33
78.1%
2
Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL
$9.66
$13.75
42.3%
2
Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb. fob
$13.37
$35.39
164.7%
2
Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall
7.6%
9.4%
23.7%
3
Unemployment rate, blacks
12.6%
15.8%
25.4%
3
Number of unemployed
11,616,000
14,485,000
24.7%
3
Number of fed. employees, ex. military (curr = 12/10 prelim)
2,779,000
2,840,000
2.2%
3
Real median household income (2008 v 2009)
$50,112
$49,777
-0.7%
4
Number of food stamp recipients (curr = 10/10)
31,983,716
43,200,878
35.1%
5
Number of unemployment benefit recipients (curr = 12/10)
7,526,598
9,193,838
22.2%
6
Number of long-term unemployed
2,600,000
6,400,000
146.2%
3
Poverty rate, individuals (2008 v 2009)
13.2%
14.3%
8.3%
4
People in poverty in U.S. (2008 v 2009)
39,800,000
43,600,000
9.5%
4
U.S. rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings
5
9
n/a
10
Present Situation Index (curr = 12/10)
29.9
23.5
-21.4%
11
Failed banks (curr = 2010 + 2011 to date)
140
164
17.1%
12
U.S. dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate
89.76
82.03
-8.6%
2
U.S. money supply, M1, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim)
1,575.1
1,865.7
18.4%
13
U.S. money supply, M2, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim)
8,310.9
8,852.3
6.5%
13
National debt, in trillions
$10.627
$14.052
32.2%
14
(1) U.S. Energy Information Administration; (2) Wall Street Journal; (3) Bureau of Labor Statistics; (4) Census Bureau; (5) USDA; (6) U.S. Dept. of Labor; (7) FHFA; (8) Standard & Poor’s/Case-Shiller; (9) RealtyTrac; (10) Heritage Foundation and WSJ; (11) The Conference Board; (12) FDIC; (13) Federal Reserve; (14) U.S. Treasury
John do you know the meaning of transference, you are a master, now you just need to work on truth.
John keep it short something that long takes the funny out of it
If it ever does get to Biden vs. Rubio, the right better hope Rubio doesn't forget his speech again. At least Marco doesn't write his talking points on his hand.
My foreign policy observations...
Speaking seriously though, I will give Obama credit for finally getting out of Iraq and for getting Bin Laden and going after Al Queda. However, liberals should not cheer our ability to kick a$$ in lieu of dealing with foreign policy issues.
Other than the two, what other foreign policy acheivements can he boast about? In Afganistan he approved surges in troop forces twice. This has been followed by an ongoing snail like ,slow withdrawl. Forces are still languishing in a no win situation where our supposed allied government doesn't want us there and the people definately do not. Chaos and revolution will ensue when we pull out, so why invest the blood and treasure all for naught?
The Middle East spring revolutions are still works in progress. Despite the cheerleading who knows what will happen there. I might remind you that those were internal uprisings not helped or hindered by the US. They should not be counted as a plus or minus in his foreign experience.
Libya, makes no sense regarding consistency, humanitarian airstrikes there; yet no action in Syria after 10,000 dead during the last year. Some may say that perhaps Obama has learned not to become involved in civil wars, my take is that Obama knew that there wouldn't be repurcussions, flare ups from others if action was taken in Libya. Involvement in Syria will cause many more problems and conflicts.
Israeli and Palestinian peace efforts non existent due to both sides obstinate reluctance to meet and agree - Not Obama's fault by the way.
Lastly I think he doesn't have a good record on dealing with Iran. My main concern is not on Iran getting a nuke, it is his unwillingness to reign in Israel's desire to attack Iran. If that happens the entire region goes up in flames with repercussions that could lead to a major world conflict.
I will not reiterate how our civil liberties have been hampered as a result of some of these War on Terror policies.
To be fair these issues are complicated and not to be taken lightly. However, due to Obama's record in the list mentioned above and his very unprogressive stances, he had defied his base to my chagrin many times. I will probably be criticized as an Obama hater, but trying to be honest in what I believe.
Despite my issues with Obama, I fear a waffling and bumbling Romney. A man so spineless he can't even stand up to his base. A base who apparently wants a ground war with Iran and maybe a blockade of N. Korea. On foreign policy Romney is a mistake we can't afford to make. On economic policy Romney is just mistaken.
Obama still the best we got.
Now there is interesting insight from a troll that complains about Republicans who can't be civil!
I can't wait to hear your comments when your annointed one loses his reelection. Then the vile will really come out.
Go take a bath you little troll - I can smell your fear & desperation all the way over here...
'It seems the (so-called) party of the future, can only talk whine about the past. Pity'
Yes, JAS1...
...but...In my world it's not whinning to talk about the deaths of thousands, based on lies......billions in debt......
Yes, indeed, it it a Pity that TeaPeople don't have to compassion/empathy or connected brain-cells to admit that what happened, on Dubyas watch, is and forever will be an atrocity!
...Carry on!
feusty - the logo next to your name seems to fit you.
yellow dog - I enjoyed reading your post - I thought it was thoughtful and insightful.
While there are some things that Obama has done in his foreign policy that I am not enamoured of, overall I have been pleased and I think he has improved the deeper he has gotten into his presidency.
Obama said right at the beginning that he wanted us out of Iraq and as soon as a window opened up he took it with no argument.
I think the decision making process on Afghanistan dragged on way too long. He stated at the start of the process we were not going to go in open ended,so we had to establish what the threshold goal was and achieve it quickly.I think that was an unrealistic expectation. But he had Biden on the one hand who did not want any troops on the ground and the military on the other who kept upping the number of men and time they required to get the job done. Finally he did a surge,but not the total nation building the military wanted. I happen to agree with the military, but at what cost? It was a no win situation - we had to do something, but will anything actually produce permanent results? I have serious doubts. Until Karzai's government deals with it's corruption and until Pakistan/India deal with their issues -it will all come back around. I wish Obama had a more regional approach to his strategy -but he is starting to make inroads in that direction.
Obama did not just order the hit on bin Laden, he made a command decision and took the risk that came with it. The politically safer option was to bomb the compound and not put men on the ground. But with that you risked unnecessary civilian deaths (worse if the intel had been faulty and bin Laden wasn't there), you would have had the possibility of a martyr's body left behind and you would not have gotten all of the intelligence that was taken and which led to further hits on bin Laden's top associates. If anything had gone wrong, Obama would have taken the full brunt of the failure as Carter did. He gets full credit for the success because he acted as a Commander in Chief should and made the politically riskier choice.
The CIA and Intelligence groups say that there has never been the level of pressure applied to terrorist groups as is now being conducted. The top echelon of the international terrorist syndicate has been decimated. But they are like roaches and now Yemen is fast growing new groups. I worry that we are becoming addicted to letting drones do all the work and without on the ground intelligence gathering,we will be aiming drones blind.
I don't think Obama gets any credit for the Arab Spring, I give the increase availability of social networking technology full credit. Obama simply had the good sense to not try and shore up an unpopular regime. We have done that before and all it earned us were new enemies.
We made a wise decision in helping the democratic movement in Libya.But the set up was perfect. The opposition was organized with clear leaders we could deal with, there was a clear north/south delineation between the opposition and government that allowed military action with fewer civilian deaths.
In Syria,Obama is wise to not rush in to intervene. There is no organized opposition, there is no established leadership you can deal with- it is a mishmash of several groups,some of which have been infiltrated by terrorist jihad, opposition and government areas are mixed together and these areas are densely populated,and the Syrian military is showing no signs of crossing over - if we intervene it would not be several months - it would be a long term ongoing operation. Something needs to be done, but I would rather Turkey and Saudi Arabia take the lead.
I do not like how Obama has handled the Israeli/Palestinian situation. But again -another no win situation until the regional leaders figure out if they want to actually accomplish anything beyond political posturing.
I think Obama has taken the right stance on Iran by going the diplomatic route and trying sanctions first.The world has lined up behindObama's sanctions specifically because they know he does not want to engage in another war if he does not have to. His sanctions are the toughest unilateral sanctions on Iran than has ever been enacted previously. If we give it time,I suspect the Iranian people will put greater pressure on their government -could produce an Iranian Spring. My worry is that either Israel or Iran will try and provoke an attack -which Iran would love,it would take the Iranian government off the hook. I also worry we will feel compelled to make the sanctions too tight. You can't back them into a corner - it is a delicate balance and we have three nations whose leaders are dealing in politics rather than what is good for the region (yes, that most definitely means Obama, Bibi and Iran's Supreme cleric.)
Like you said -there could be improvement (I also do not like the erosion of civil liberties) but with Romney's trash talk diplomacy, it sounds like we are going back into the Bush strategy again. We don't need someone who draws lines in the sand,refuses to talk to anyone who doesn't do as we dictate, and says we should intervene militarily in every conflict that pops up - so far Romney or his advisor group has said we should have stayed in Iraq, should stay in Afghanistan(though I think he is flipping on that), intervene in Syria,threaten military action in both Iran and North Korea and go back to a cold war basis with China and Russia (but not stop sending jobs overseas to China).
I agree with Tony Blair when he said Obama has shown the capacity and shown the ability to have a greater global vision.
Sorry about making this a book length post. It's so nice to interact with someone who is not just putting total partisan tripe out there.(mine's partial partisan tripe - sorta tripe light)
JoAnnaSmith1
Jimmy Carter was Governor - no foreign policy experience
Put together a peace agreement between Egypt & Israel that still last today.
Ronald Reagan was a Governor - no foreign policy experience
yes but he was a good actor, and scared the hell out of everybody when talking about taking on the russians.
George Bush I - Had considerable foreign policy experience
alot of foreign policy experiance too bad his son did not learn any thing from him.
Bill Clinton was Governor - no foreign policy experience
but had very good people next to him.
George Bush II was a Governor - no foreign policy experience
NEXT!!!!!!
Barack Obama was a Senator for a couple years (never much showed up), a State Senator, and a Community Organizer - no foreign policy experience.
Once again making fun of community organizers shows how ignorant you really are, Now, all i can say it, during the 08 election he kept crying about Pakistan and that they were the problem and the need to stop sharing intelligence with them was important, well guess what Joanne, he was right and this move helped the US kill you know who. that being said, shut up!!!!!!!!!!
Mitt Romney, hired foreign workers to replace the American workers laid off with his wheeling and dealing.
good ole sleepy joe, lol! Always good to have him around at the cocktail hour, but a little dangerous to himself and the country in his position!!
I still remember when he got lost in China! He thought for a minute he was on the set for the Wizard of Oz during the scene with the Munckins!
Kind of like Bush in New York after Cheney tried to murder his lawyer
John Bolton (Duwba's) foreign policy adviser is now on Rommney's team. He is scary. Bombs will be in the air in the Middle East within one month of inauguration if Willard were to be elected.
The Search for Obama:
"Behold, I go forward, but he is not there;
and backward, but I cannot perceive him: On the
left hand, where he doth work, but I cannot
behold him; he hideth himself on the right hand,
That I cannot see him."
- Job 23:8-10
"When Barack Obama and I were literally sitting in a desk in a high rise in Chicago beginning to plan how we would try to get this economy out of a ditch, literally, the first guy I called was Jon Corzine. Not a joke. Not a joke. Because first of all, he's the smartest guy that I know in terms of the economy and on finance, I really mean this."
-Joe Biden
I know thats wrong, you dont sit in a desk! You sit by a desk! Loser!
Bob, seriously, Corzine? Did you pound the keys really, really hard as you typed that? Bet ya did.
The right wing bubble people are trolling around looking for something.
he was pounding something as he typed...
Marco Rubio's Rambling foreign policy speech on c-span the other day spelled out exactly what they would do. Basically invade Syria probably within a month of getting the white house(Which won't happen). With or without the support of other Nations, or the UN. Sound familiar so far? Then, he basically said the same of Iran. What the idiot Senator doesn't understand. These countries military's are NOT anywhere near the same as Libya, and Iraq. They ACTUALLY have REAL armies. But, to the military complex, that doesn't seem to matter. You shoot first, if nobody likes it, you shoot them too. Its scarey enough to think Flipp Romney would actually be able to run the country domestically. But its terrifying to even imagine Flipp at the "proverbial" button. Especially as wishy washy as he is anyway, and depends on everyone else in his party, along with his wife, to make those decisions for him. Scarey times. Oh yeah, Rubio threw in China, and Russia in that mix as well. Basically saying, if they don't like it. Stop us. And these people could have access to nuclear weapons. Not China, or Russia. But Flipp and Rubio. Scarey!
Funny thing about the Rubio speech---they can't use teleprompters after being all over President Obama for using them. So Rubio can't find the last page of his speech and has to ask someone for it. Great staff work there.
He pretty much shows the shape of the party. Unorganized. Out of touch. And I'm sorry, but that speech was totally ignorant of what is actually going on in the world. It was written to make Rubio look like he actually knew something about foreign policy. What it actually did, was give him a VERY PALIN Moment. Joe Biden has been involved in foreign affairs looooooong before Sen. Rubio was ever even a gleam in his fathers eye. I'd actually pay to watch that VP debate. It would be much better than the hit comedy show of Biden and Palin(I can see Russia from my house). LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!
Let's do hope its Rubio as VP. It'll be the Palin kiss of death for their election.
Who in the world would want Rubio to step in as Prez?
Not as pretty, but just as scary.
Game, set, match for Obama.
Cheers to you VP Biden! You described Mitt Romney perfectly. Mitt's talk is not even thoughtful but we must remember that his foreign policy team are neocons who after Iraq were humiliated and shuffled off to the back corner. They weren't even brought on TV any more, that is until recently and up pops Dan Senor, John Bolton and the other war and war everywhere numnuts.
To me, Jody, Mitt's lack of thoughtfulness is a corollary to him wanting to be President. He can't tell us why he wants to be President--he just does and it is his turn, by golly. Under those circumstances, why think about and articulate a world view? This was the problem with George Bush and maybe we might have muddled through but after 9/11 we saw that we needed someone with his own vision, not that of his advisors.
Jody #8 - You have it backwards. Bush had us involved in two conflicts and Obama has kept us involved in the same two Iraq, Afghan (until 2014), Libya, Syria, soon to come Yemen, Iran, and who knows what other countries in the ME. Don't forget that hwe is saber rattling in N Korea also.
The dems are the warmongers and proving it daily.
Romney IS out of touch. So isn't the entire Republican Party.
Just listen to them. They're idiots about foreign policy. They haven't a clue about anything since they decided not to show up for work once President Obama was elected.
Romney is the biggest idiot of them all. He has to depend on GWB neocons for advice and how to think.
I find this whole article kind of flawed. First Romney has no plan for anything, he just throws darts and hopes they stick
Secondly with Karl Rove in charge of his Government we can expect the same as the Cheney White House. We can expect more war ,less jobs, a collapsed economy, no health care and the list goes on.
The people of this country know full well that the people who are funding the war on American people want a pay back if they can overthrow the government. Karl Rove will see to it that they get it.
By the way. For those interested in listening to "The Rube" Rubio's speech. It can be seen at c-span.org Unlike the Faux comedy channel's zombie's....I prefer to get the "garbage" straight from the trash cans mouths. Its a long, rambling, but very eye opening speech. Plus you get to see his "Non" tele promted speech, gone wrong. Its near the end of the speech. But, well worth watching, for that PALIN moment, if for nothing else. However, it spells out the Teapublicans approach to the world. All I can say is. All our brave men and women who are FINALLY getting to come home for good. Don't pack up your marching boots just yet. The Teapublicans have a few more wars you need to fight for them. By the way? How many tours of duty have those Romney boys made so far? I know VP Bidens son has made a few. Just haven't heard of any of them Romney boys going yet. I'm sure they plan to wait. Until its "their turn".
Mitt Romney is a deeply flawed personality, seemingly not conscious of the effect his remarks have on others, out of touch with the concerns and stresses of average people and "secure" in his mythos that wealth itself donotes superiority.
Imagine him as representative of the USA abroad, expecting too much of small nations, insultingly smug, unable to understand the human elements of any equation. He's incredibly insecure, probably due to the way the family handled and valued its wealth relative to its children desires.
His repressed, elitist, entitled hang-ups guarantee he'd fit the persona of the anti-Christ better than anyone we've seen with too much power since Hitler. He's a white supremacist's wet dream and would be a great puppet for Karl Rove to try to control.
HEIL, Mittens. He'll soon get his stride and kick subordinates to the curb with no clue where he's going.
Wasn't that his teleprompter speech the other night? After all. His main claim to the Presidency is, Hey! Its MY Turn! Vote for me! LoL!
Out of Touch! Out of Touch! This from Biden with his mistakes and brown nose.
If Mitt Romney wins, I hope he keeps this squrril around for comic relief.
"If I wanted America to fail", pretty interesting video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CZ-4gnNz0vcted
How much did the Teapublican oil party have to pay for that garbage. LOL
Joe, you could have said it all like this " Rummy the Dummy is out of touch, period!" Mittie himself would know nothing! Its a good thing his wife Ann has all that working experience to guide him with!
Rummey the Dummy=wrong for America!
FiestyRedhead: There you go again calling names. Can you state your opinion without calling names. It makes you less believable.
Again - you seem to believe I give a @!$%# what YOU think!
Get a clue dude will ya?
Red can only point fingers, name call, twist facts.
When asked point blank about B O stopping oil production from the GULF, and telling PETRO-BRA
America will be your best customer red CLAMED UP.
If Joe wants a good look at someone who is "clueless" he needn't look any further than across his bosses' desk. Ordering the killing of Bin Laden was a "no-brainer." It's going to take someone with the
ballsto tell people like Ahmadinajad, and Kim Il-whichever-one-he-is to straighten up and fly right.This entire rant is about as "clueless" as it sounds. Ordering the Seals to FINALLY take out Bin Laden was a "no Brainer"? If that was the case, Dubbya should have easily got him the day after the attacks. After all, he was "clueless" and "Braninless". As far as North Korea. They sabre rattle constantly. I Can only assume, that IF a Republican were in office they would be doing what? Exactly? Bomb North Korea? Hmmm...wonder how that would go over with oh..I don't know...CHINA! But thats not a problem, i assume another World War is exactly what the Republicans want. So yes. Flipp Romney has no clue. And will NEVER have a clue. However, the 250 billion dollar man doesn't have any skin in the game if he sends our brave men and women BACK to war. After all. His son's "turn" to fight for this nation hasn't apparently came yet.
GranCanyon, The only thing Skank Feisty is good at is throwing insults. Learned how in the public schools. I don't consider calling her a skank an insult. Just telling the truth.
Says someone who managed to pass the GED on their 6th attempt! lol
Grow up little boy - you are out of your league - 'skank' is the best you have to offer? lmfao!
Joey Boy is out of touch with reality and of course out to lunch! Guess why Obozo picked this loser? Keep him locked up in the backroom to keep him from opening his mouth with the profanity and other embarrassing moments in public. He reminds me of dummny Chris Mathews and Karen Kinney who are dumber than a box of rocks and two sandwhiches shy of a picnic. These are the people who are now the demoratic party. These are the lovers of socialism and the unthinkums we still having running around loose in our country. They have other losers like Feisty Deadhead and other far left liberal morons who love to be led by other idiots without any brain! Find something constructive to do in your life instead of living on this website.
After Vice President Joe Biden's scathing critique of Romney's shoot-from-the-lip scatter shot positions on national defense. It is rumored that the Republican's top campaign staffers went into a closed-door secret meeting.
After a lengthy and sometimes heated debate, it was agreed that they would approach Romney and suggest a radical surgical operation; they wanted all of his orifices sewn closed to prevent any new embarrassing positions leaking out of the man. The surgery was reversible and would leave no visible scars for his inauguration!
Yes Joe you are so right, ETCH-A-SKETCH is "out of touch" with foreign policy, "out of touch" with the POOR 99% AMERICAN PEOPLE and the only thing he is in touch with is HIS CORRUPT REPUBLICAN CORPORATES & their SUPERPAC MONEY!
Vote STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC, the lives you save WILL be YOURS & your CHILDREN! This message is brought to you by a LIFELONG DEVOUT REPUBLICAN who is TOTALLY FED UP with corrupt corporates and their political puppets!
No matter whos wins the upcoming election, there is going to have to be signifigant tax increases. More of the wealthy may need a bailout at any time.
Maybe by then capital hill will come out with a snappy motto like, "Shut up, do what your told and just pay the money."