VIDEO: First Read Minute: Battle for the middle

Mark Murray discusses general election maneuvering by Mitt Romney and President Obama.

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Any particular reason Andrea Mitchell found it necessary to cut off the Presidents speech?

Was he making to much sense for her delicate right leaning tastes?

Like the Madeline Albright interview couldn't of waited until tomorrow.

Tell me again how Willard is going to wrestle the "youth vote" away from President Obama?

Not in Willard's wildest dreams...

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#1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

MSNBC's feminist leftist Andrea Mitchell is 'right leaning'?

Now I have heard it all !!!

Per Feisty, when Obama is speaking, all MSNBC journalists must be silent and bowing like Brian Williams...

When Obama is finished speaking, then the hosannas of praise may begin..

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#1.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

Maybe because the President's speech is the same old thing that has been said dozens of times. Also maybe Andrea didn't think it was news worthy. BTW, Andrea Mitchell is not "right leaning".

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#1.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

Feisty--one of the most popular features of the Affordable Care Act is to allowing children to stay on their parents' insurance through age 26. Romney is against that---how will that appeal to both the children and the parents?

Young people are more likely to be in favor of gay marriage---how will Romney appeal to them?

Young people would relate more to the problems of people their age brought to this country illegally as infants/toddlers and now facing deportation. They would support the Dream Act, which Romney has to "study".

I just don't see where he is going to appeal to this segment. He reminds me of those old Oldsmobile commercials they used to have---this is not your father's Oldsmobile? Well, Mitt is like their father's Oldsmobile.

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#1.3 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:00 PM EDT

@ Steeler Fan. Mitt is your father's oldsmobile, and oldsmobile went out of business. Mitt will be returning to retirement in November.

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#1.4 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:21 PM EDT

A young person voting for Romney is like a vegan buying a fur coat. They may think it makes them look special, but they will those their integrity by doing it.

Republicans resist laws to protect the environment

Republicans resist getting off oil

Republicans deny climate change is a real emergency

Republicans refuse to talk to North Korea and Iran

Republicans think it's cool the wealthiest 1% pay the lowest tax rate since the 1950's.

Republicans think young people should take care of senior parents instead of getting help from the government. Can you say: Mom and Dad are moving in?

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#1.5 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

Exactly Amy, Mom and Dad will be moving in with today's youth into a house their kids don't own. The American dream is something only the rich would experience given the policies of the gop.

Mitt Romney is the representative of the 1%. If you don't belong now, they will not invite you into their club for voting with them. Stand up for your rights! Obama/Biden 2012

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#1.6 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

Wayne---well, Mitt was already unemployed and now he can collect his Social Security!

I can't see young people thinking he understands their situation. President Obama grew up in a single parent home, he had student loan debt, he and his wife juggled work/family issues, he is a sports fan and plays hoops---I just think he is someone they can relate to more.

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#1.7 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:34 PM EDT

Steve Benen, The Maddow Blog:

We know, for example, that Romney wants to eliminate the entirety of the Affordable Care Act, which will immediately take health care coverage away from millions of young people aged 18 to 25, who can now remain on their family plans thanks to the reform law. "Vote for me and I promise to take away your health insurance" is not a winning message.

We also know that Romney wants to scrap college aid for millions of younger Americans. For this constituency, it's one of the single biggest issues on the policy landscape, and the former governor's message to them is, "Tough luck."

Making matters slightly worse, Democrats streamlined the student loan system in 2010, eliminating needless subsidies to banks, and redirecting the savings to help cover tuition costs. Romney opposes those reforms.

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In 2004, a Bush cabinet official said job creation and GDP numbers don't really matter because "the stock market is ... the final arbiter" of economic success. If that's still true, Republicans appear to have some explaining to do.

It also suggests Barack Obama is the worst socialist of all time. A soaring stock market, record high corporate profits, private sector job growth ... it's almost as if the president didn't listen to Karl Marx at all.

Regardless, most of the major players on Wall Street still detest the president. Why is that? Kevin Drum offers a compelling explanation.

First -- and there's no point in pulling punches here -- they're a bunch of spoiled brats. Over the past three decades they've gotten accustomed to the kind of deference normally offered to grand viziers of the Sublime Porte, and they're simply enraged at the fact that Obama not only doesn't seem very impressed by their accomplishments, but even criticizes them every once in a while. [...]

Which brings us to the second thing: regulation. Like a lot of business people, I think they hate regulation more than they hate reduced profits. They'll fight higher taxes, but in the end, that's a pure money thing and they're accustomed to winning and losing money battles. But regulation wounds them far more. It's a signal that they aren't to be trusted. It's a reminder that someone else can tell them what to do. It makes it harder to earn money from purely financial manipulation.

Whether or not one believes the Democratic Wall Street reform efforts in 2010 went far enough, they were still the most sweeping regulatory reforms of the financial industry since the Great Depression, and they continue to enrage Wall Street professionals. That Mitt Romney has vowed to repeal all of these safeguards and layers of accountability, returning the system to the rules in place during the 2008 crash, has endeared him to the industry.

CNN:

Aston, Pennsylvania (CNN) – Mitt Romney took questions from the press for the first time in over a month Monday – but he avoided giving specific answers to almost every query.

Standing alongside a man some believe could become his running mate, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, Romney employed the politician's art of speaking while saying very little.

How far along are you in the search for a vice president?

"We really haven't had a discussion yet of putting together a list or evaluating various candidates," Romney said.

Do you agree with Sen. Rubio's suggestion for a modified DREAM Act, which would offer visas to some young people brought into the country illegally?

"I'm taking a look at his proposal," he said. "It has many features to commend it but it's something that we're studying."

In addition to military personnel who are illegal immigrants, are there other groups of undocumented people in this country to whom you might offer some kind of pathway to legal status?

"How we adjust our visa program to make it fit the needs of our country is something I'll be speaking about down the road," Romney said. "But I don't have anything for you on that on stage."

Romney last held a press conference on March 16 in San Juan, Puerto Rico. His Monday session with reporters came a day before a primary in Pennsylvania, as well as voting in Delaware, New York, Connecticut and Rhode Island.

Rubio appeared to be following Romney's example, keeping his remarks extremely brief and general.

Asked whether his experience qualified him to be vice president, Rubio said simply: "I'm not talking about that process anymore."

The former Massachusetts governor did elaborate on one question, from a French reporter who asked about his favorite memories of the country.

Romney, a Mormon, spent his mission as a young man in France. But instead of talking about that experience, he recounted memories from vacations spent in the country as an adult.

"I think the best memories were with my wife on vacations, from time to time in France," he said. "The last vacation we had there, walking around the city of Paris, not just in the Champs-Élysées, but also over to the Jardin of Luxembourg and around the city, as one of the most magnificent cities in the world and I look forward to occasional vacations again in such a beautiful place."

Some Democrats seized on the statement as another example of Romney's tendency to make off-handed remarks that casually reveal his wealth.

After he wrapped his talk with reporters Monday, Romney returned to the microphone to make some news. He told reporters he was in favor of extending relief on student loans.

Previously he had said colleges would eventually be forced to compete by lowering their tuition costs.

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According to a new e-book, Mitt wanted his grandchildren to call him Ike, after President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

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#1.8 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:37 PM EDT

Right Steeler Fan. Obama knows poverty. Clinton understood the struggles of most of the population of this country as well. I we elect Romney, it will be what we experienced with the Bush family all over again. We need no more silver spoon presidents.

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#1.9 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:41 PM EDT

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Any particular reason Andrea Mitchell found it necessary to cut off the Presidents speech?

Was he making to much sense for her delicate right leaning tastes?

LMAO! O-M-G! Waaaay tooo funny

Feisty DumbFux is quickly turning into "The Ringer" of FR (Think Johnny Knoxville and his "buddies")....lol

It's been awhile since I called a girl (we really don't know) a loser, but it's about to be easier.....what a tool!

Andrea Mitchell a right-winger?!?!?!
LOL....pass it this way baby and quit Bogarting it

Romney/Rubio 2012!

    #1.10 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

    P.S. - Does it ever get to suck to bitch about EVERY little thing in life?.....lol

    Try the OTHER side of the bed tomorrow baby!

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    #1.11 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:06 PM EDT

    The only person getting the youth vote other then the president is Ron Paul, who has so many delegates in the background that it will be interesting to see what happens by convention time. And Paul's supporters are not going to toe the Party line and get behind Romney. My guess is a lot will peel off to President Obama (along with Occupy -- Whoohoo May Day!).

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    #1.12 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:32 PM EDT

    Pat Boston MA. -- Excellent post!

    This quote about Wall Street is important:

    Over the past three decades they've gotten accustomed to the kind of deference normally offered to grand viziers of the Sublime Porte, and they're simply enraged at the fact that Obama not only doesn't seem very impressed by their accomplishments, but even criticizes them every once in a while. [...]

    Why? Because this IS the single, clear difference between the two Parties. Oligarchy versus democracy and our currently broken Republic form of democracy (no representation of The People) because the GOP/TP are bought and paid for servants of corporations and the rich.

    The president in comparison has always relied on grassroots and individual, smaller contributions. Whereas Teapublicans rely on funds from Big Oil, Wall Street, insurance/Big Pharma, and even one Sugar Daddy. If folks voted on this alone, obviously the current Republican Party has to change or be rejected until they do change.

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    #1.13 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:48 PM EDT

    Could it be the President was boring?

      #1.14 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

      After he wrapped his talk with reporters Monday, Romney returned to the microphone to make some news. He told reporters he was in favor of extending relief on student loans.

      Previously he had said colleges would eventually be forced to compete by lowering their tuition costs.

      Expressing support for extending relief on student loan rates is kind of a no-brainer for Mittens.

      What he won't mention is that the Ryan budget virtually eliminates all government aid for college students.

      Crippling college tuition is nothing to Mitt. He earns enough in a single day--without even working for it-- to send a student to the most expensive private university in the country.

      Good luck appealing to the youth vote, Mitt!

      The new voter ID law in Pennsylvania was designed to disenfranchise college students, among groups. It won't work.

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      #1.15 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:59 AM EDT
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      Thanks for an interesting report Mark: Question: does the conventional wisdom apply to the Republican candidate in this election. The Republican party and its heir presumptive, Mitt, have been pulled so far to the right, that I have to wonder if a return to "the middle", is still too far to the right for most Americans?

      Won't Mitt be attacked on his flank by the right wingers, who will demand that he pledge allegiance to the no compromise agenda that is their current operating mode?

      I guess it remains to be seen.

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      Reply#2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

      Headline in today's paper in Maine says that moderate Republican Olympia Snowe may not share her war chest with the GOP, but direct those funds to the "sensible middle."

      Put that together with the fact Romney is losing in the Northeast, and I'd say moving to the right didn't work out too well for the Republican Party, as they are turning moderate Republicans into Independents, at least, on the East Coast.

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      #2.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:35 PM EDT

      Thanks for sharing that Amy. I didn't know it.

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      #2.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:40 PM EDT

      I'm good with Blue Dogs in red states as long as they vote with Dems more often then they vote with Teapublicans. Otherwise there is no point in running as a Democrat. At least Lieberman finally ran as an Independent. Claire McCaskill in Missouri will probably hang on if for no other reason than the minimum wage proposition on the ballot this time around.

      But you won't hear this from the right-wing with their purity tests -- Therein lies the problem! The Tea Party has been the absolute worse thing that has happened in this country in my lifetime, along with pledges to Norquist causing Washington dysfunction.

      Add to that ALEC, and now the return to the Jack Abramoff National Center for Public Policy Research machinations. What kind of citizen wants this? Not patriotic ones.

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      #2.3 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:17 PM EDT
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      do you people know who andrea mitchell's husband is? How many Washington DC couple's have split loyalty. So guess what her leanings are.

      The liberal media bias may have been true in the 50's and 60's when the liberal agenda was more popular but today if anything the news has a corporate slant to it(R)

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      Reply#3 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

      do you people know who andrea mitchell's husband is?

      Alan Greenspan - can you imagine crawling into bed with that every night?

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      #3.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

      Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

      do you people know who andrea mitchell's husband is?

      Alan Greenspan - can you imagine crawling into bed with that every night?

      Almost as much as with some DumbFux on here....lol

      http://twtrland.com/profile/girly_bits

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      #3.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

      At least she's got someone...Feisty must be real jealous.

        #3.3 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

        Damn Michael I wish you wouldn't have done that...you made me throw up in my mouth. Yuk.

          #3.4 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

          LMAO....sorry

          Had to be done......you's gots to know who these freaks are...lol

            #3.5 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:48 PM EDT
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            Feisty----

            You and I may be on the same side of many issues but your tactics are offensive and as effective as those used by Nazarite or J Merle or any of the umpteen yahoos that post the most absurd baloney known to man.

            You are close minded and hostile and your attitude has completely eroded your credibility. There are many here representing opposing views that try to respectfully advance the discussion. Try to learn from their example and keep it civil.

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            Reply#4 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:36 PM EDT

            You have an ignore function, campdog, if you are that disturbed by Feisty's posts, I would suggest you use it.

            You are not the moderator, and your opinion may not be shared by others.

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            #4.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

            You are not the moderator, and your opinion may not be shared by others

            Thanks NDD!

            You have an ignore function, campdog, if you are that disturbed by Feisty's posts, I would suggest you use it

            You beat me to it! I would suggest campdog acquaint themselves with it - not only am I not going anywhere, I don't bow to unsolicited advice!

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            #4.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

            I honestly don't get it, Feisty, and I wish I could understand it.

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            #4.3 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

            Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

            You beat me to it! I would suggest campdog acquaint themselves with it - not only am I not going anywhere, I don't bow to unsolicited advice!

            Awwwww, what a tough lil cookie we are....lol

            "I don't take to bullying very well, but stand clear when *I* get pissy"...lol

            DumbFux

            Romney/Rubio 2012!

            Justice for Zimmerman NOW!

              #4.4 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

              I agree. Justice for Zimmerman. Throw that murdering scumbag in jail to rot. I don't care if his daddy's a judge.

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              #4.5 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:39 PM EDT
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              New Day.... Clearly, people who contribute here are not all of the same opinion.

              I know I am not the moderator or the civility police or in any position of authority what so ever. What I am is a person that recognizes the value of a forum where individuals may attempt to find some resolution through honest discourse. I may be totally wrong but I don't think comments that are mean spirited help resolve anything, in fact, I think they achieve just the opposite effect. I would be willing to bet that not one mind has been changed; not one vote has been earned by insulting those that do not agree with a particular point of view.

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              Reply#5 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

              campdog, if you want to posit that civility changes minds, that of course is your right. I don't think any more minds are changed by civility than satire.

              People are pretty entrenched.

              I have a different writing style than Feisty does, so do you.

              But, willing to bet that people come to read Feisty, because she brings the spice to FR.

              I become impatient with criticism of Feisty, when there are so many on here who make very personal attacks against others. THAT is what stops dialogue. For a good example of that I refer you to post 3.2. Clearly, a violation of COH.

              If you re read your post, I think you will find that the civility was missing, and that it was a more personal attack than you perhaps intended.

              But. My response stands. If you don't like what Feisty has to say, use the ignore feature.

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              #5.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

              For a good example of that I refer you to post 3.2. Clearly, a violation of COH

              Campdogs refusal to address the otherside of the spectrum shows their clear bias...

              Moving on now...

              I become impatient with criticism of Feisty

              Thanks again GF!

              {{{HUGS}}}

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              #5.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

              Hugs to you too, Feisty.

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              #5.3 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

              Yes. Feisty must be brought to task for being uncivil to the trolls who call her libtard, slut, b**ch, etc etc etc etc. Those "people" should be allowed to slander her all day for criticizing their backwards political views, but god forbid she (or anyone else) fight back.

              Hypocrisy much?

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              #5.4 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:42 PM EDT
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              Hi Feisty and newday, Things sure seem to be heating up hear on First Read. Even though we don't always agree you have both been very civil to me and I appreciate it. Have a great day.

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              Reply#6 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

              Hi, lisa: Hope all is well with you!

              You have always been kind to me too, and I appreciate it.

              Hugs to you! Don't be a stranger.

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              #6.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

              Hiya Lisa!

              Good to see you! There was never any reason not to be civil to you - you have always treated me with much respect & I too appreciate it!

              NDD - is right don't be such a stranger!

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              #6.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:02 PM EDT
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              Gas may have went up. But when the democrats took office gas wasn't 1.79 a gallon. it was more thanthat because When bush took office and started the war with Iraq gas jumped sky high and it's been up and down since then. But i don't know about you but it effect me and the other middle class and poor when you tell me how things have gotten worse since bush left when it was he who spending our money Would you agree? Since he had a surplus when he took office and when he left he spent it all and owed more to put us in this hole and you want to blame the next guy? well give me your money and let me spend it and then you can tell everyone how good i am and if you could do it all over again!! What a nutjob to put someone like me In office so i could cut everything for the rich and move job over seas so you can pay cheap labor then bring it back tocharge top doller. Sorry NO CAN DO

                Reply#7 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:35 PM EDT

                Why is Romney so pleased with his victories in this last election, I could win the Olympic marathon if I was the only one running. Did he just wake up from a long winters nap or what. Get on with the show, tell us what you are going to do about high gas prices, illegal immigration, the wars in Iraq and Afganistan, Obamacare, jobs and welfare and social security and the list goes on. He said what he needed to in the primaries, now we need to know what he's really going to do. His vulture capitalism isn't going to get us out of this mess, I want to know what he's going to do.

                  Reply#8 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:55 AM EDT
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