Romney assails president steps from site of Obama's re-nomination

Chris Keane / Reuters

Republican presidential candidate and former Governor of Massachusetts Mitt Romney speaks to supporters in Charlotte, North Carolina April 18, 2012.

 

CHARLOTTE, NC -- Mitt Romney delivered a blistering attack on President Obama's economic record just footsteps from the site where the president will accept his re-election nomination this summer.

On a rooftop a few hundred yards away from the Bank of America stadium, Romney offered his own alternative version of what North Carolinians could expect to hear from the president in his acceptance speech, as well as what they would not.

"What you won’t hear at that convention is that for the last 38 months, unemployment has been above 8 percent, that we’ve had 24 million Americans that are out of work, stopped looking for work, or underemployed," Romney said.

"You won’t hear that, since he gave that speech and became president, that there have been 50,000 more job losses here in North Carolina, more than twice as many as would fit in that stadium," Romney continued, referring to the nearby stadium, the home of the NFL's Carolina Panthers, where the president will speak on the final night of the Democratic convention.

The empty stadium was meant to serve as the backdrop for Romney's speech today -- a visual bracketing of the president -- but was ultimately thwarted by rain that forced the remarks indoors.

Romney focused not just on Obama's planned 2012 convention speech, but also his 2008 remarks, reading aloud from a portion at one point and substituting then nominee-Obama's rebuke of the Bush economy, with his own criticism for the Obama economy, urging the president to take ownership of the economy.

"He can’t continue to try and deflect blame elsewhere," Romney said. "At some point he’s got to acknowledge this is his economy –- that what’s happened is the result of his policies –- not of his predecessors, not of Congress."

He even cracked a joke at the expense of the optics of Obama's acceptance speech, in which the president stood amidst towering Greek columns on the floor of Denver's Invesco field.

"You're not going to see President Obama standing alongside Greek columns. He's not going to want to remind anybody of Greece," Romney said.

The former Massachusetts governor also said the economy may yet improve before Election Day, but that the president would deserve no credit if it did so.

"Upon being elected president he said if we let him borrow $787 billion he would hold unemployment below eight percent, and it has not been below eight percent since," Romney said. "Now its going to get below 8 percent someday. Our economy always come back, comes back -- but it's no thanks to the policies of Barack Obama."

The presumptive GOP nominee also predicted that, despite the presence of the Democratic convention in the state, and the president's current organizational edge here, Romney would return the Tarheel State to the Republican column in 2012.

"The president’s going to do everything he can to get North Carolina in his column, and that will not be enough because we’re gonna win North Carolina in November," Romney said, to cheers.

In a nod to recent polling that continues to show Obama's personal favorability ratings greatly outpacing his own, Romney also argued that liking the president alone was not reason enough to vote for him.

"Even if you like Barack Obama, we can't afford Barack Obama," Romney said.

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Jumping the shark giving a pre-rebuttal speech don't ya think?

Willard sure has some balls... he's barely half way to the nomination with historic disapproval rating...

What's the word I'm looking for?

Oh yeah... entitlement!

  • 94 votes
#1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:13 PM EDT
Comment author avatarchilledRestored

Feisty, Willard is a ball-less and spine-less wonder. It's amazing that he can stand and walk upright!

  • 62 votes
#1.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:17 PM EDT

Romney is a decent, nice man, I'm sure. But when he says obnoxious things like the president should "start packing" and Ann seems to have a sense of entitlement when she says it's their turn...And then the lies--I've never seen anyone so shameless, along with the hyperventilating, crossing legs one way then another, snippy temperament. I'm already tired of Romney and we have the summer still to get through!

  • 91 votes
#1.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:33 PM EDT
Comment author avatarbob-1805084Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

What's the word I'm looking for?

Oh yeah... entitlement!

Still looking for a thought to go along with your word, Fesity?

You must be getting tired of being slapped down when you don't even try to make a point.

  • 21 votes
#1.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:41 PM EDT
Comment author avatarjames-1937467Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Dumb FUX -- "Willard sure has some balls..."

Though you are extremely crass with this post, as you are in most now that I think about it, I am surprised that you can compliment the Governor given your obvious hate and envy for the man, his family and his success.

Remember when Hillary, you know the woman that was running for President a few years ago, nailed Mr. Obama with her 3:00 in the morning ad? She sure did not think he had the necessary equipment to be President which has proven to be so prophetic time and again in the last 39 months or so.

  • 24 votes
#1.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

"Even if you like Barack Obama, we can't afford Barack Obama," Romney said.

"We" as in the 1%

  • 79 votes
#1.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:47 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJon DunnExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Romney may have been born with a "silver spoon" in his mouth but I'll bet he never put one in his nose. Your man did by his own admission.

  • 21 votes
#1.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:49 PM EDT
Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

No Jack - that'd be the 8 million people that have give up looking for a job.

  • 19 votes
#1.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:50 PM EDT
Comment author avatarjustoneguyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Let's see ..... Obamacare, GSA scandal, Secret Service scandal, 23 other Federal department investigations, Fast & Furious, Higher taxes, High unemployment, No Federal Budget, Under-the-table deals, Suing states for enforcing Federal laws, SCOTUS, Solyndra, Gas prices more than doubled, More regulations, Black Panther voter intimidation, No Keystone pipeline, Massive deficit spending, Over 5 trillion added to the national debt with NO RESULTS, No plan for anything except the "Buffet Rule", Speech after speech with no follow-through, and on & on & on.

Is this the direction our country should be heading? Aren’t we a better country than that?

  • 43 votes
#1.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:53 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJon DunnExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hey Feisty Redhead,

I read on the news today that another Illinois politician has been arrested for having her hand in the cookie jar to the tune of $30 million. Maybe she'll make Blago her b*tch when she gets to prison.

HaHa, your state is so corrupt it should be nuked from orbit.

  • 26 votes
#1.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:54 PM EDT
Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

HaHa, your state is so corrupt it should be nuked from orbit.

Spoken like a true Christian conservative Johnny boy...

Now go wrap yourself in a flag, cling to your Bible and yammer about - "country first" will ya?

  • 57 votes
#1.11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:57 PM EDT
Comment author avatarTruePatriot-445959Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

What a sh!t load coming in today from well-known trolls. The adults are trying to talk, so run along back to your sandbox at FOX Noise.

james-1937467 -- Stop with the absurd "politics of envy." No one is jealous of success. But does this mean we should all be cool with Cheney making bucks from Haliburton by starting an unnecessary war that cost our nation immense blood, treasure, and global respect? No, and the same goes for "vulture capitalism" and Romney. I do not like plutocrats like him, and after his wife said the fake war on mommies was a birthday present, I don't like her either.

  • 53 votes
#1.12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:59 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJH-479998Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

President Obama is losing a point or two every day in the polls to Romney. By the time November comes along we might be able to cancel the elections and just have the Obama's call the local moving and storage outfit. Think of all the money we could save to help the poor.

Romney is just getting warmed up. Watch out libbies, your days are almost over.

  • 26 votes
#1.13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:00 PM EDT
Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

So again - Obama is according to the polls kicking ass and taking names when it comes to women and Hispanics.

Yet the race is virtually tied, or Romney is leading.

So just how bad is Obama doing with men and non-hispanics?

Oh my, this is going to get ugly.

But at least we all felt great paying taxes yesterday - all the more for the GSA.

  • 20 votes
#1.14 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

Romney laugh's too much to be believable. A fool laugh's at his own joke's.

  • 39 votes
#1.15 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:05 PM EDT
Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The adults are trying to talk, so run along back to your sandbox at FOX Noise

They can't - there was so much crap in the litter-box NewsforDumbFux shut down their comments.

  • 33 votes
#1.16 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

Mr serial liar speaks.................... and nobody gives a #%&*. Romney and the Republican Party are embarrassments to America.

  • 41 votes
#1.17 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

Bye bye... Romney. Looks like your not the nominee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BpL6eQyXDs

  • 13 votes
#1.18 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:20 PM EDT

mearly

Romney laughs too much to be believable. A fool laughs at his own jokes.

The heheheh, yuk yuk yuk is not authentic, like everything else about Romney.

  • 30 votes
#1.19 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

"Upon being elected president he said if we let him borrow $787 billion he would hold unemployment below eight percent, and it has not been below eight percent since,"

False. Ask Politifact.

"Even if you like Barack Obama, we can't afford Barack Obama," Romney said.

Even if you like tax cuts, we can't afford them. You claim to be a fiscal conservative, Mitt. So why do you keep offering tax cuts??? You know we cannot afford them, and you know that they don't do any good. Ask the economists....

"What you won’t hear at that convention is that for the last 38 months, unemployment has been above 8 percent, that we’ve had 24 million Americans that are out of work, stopped looking for work, or underemployed," Romney said.

You won't also hear that YOUR tax plan will force lower-class Americans to pay more while millionaires and billionaires get a $150,000 tax refund, not to mention that your slash-and-burn budget policies will derail the recovery.

Stop kidding yourself, Willard. It's just gonna make your fall more flavorful for America.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

  • 38 votes
#1.20 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:26 PM EDT
Comment author avatarwinemaker-4308406Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

So much BS in the media to move away from the Obama administration failures.

The AX talks about the Romney’s taking a trip with the family dog on top of the car. Others in the media move to more tax record information from the Mittens. Or much discussion about Bain Capital and how Romney raped companies. I find it amazing that those so called experts on criticism haven’t a clue as to what a venture capital organization does, and the risk they take to reengineer a failing company, moving it to a profit taking company.

Everything to deflect the record of this administration away from its terrible record of non-achievement.

But I got to thinking; why not fully vet Mittens on his background, as the media should also vet the president. While searching for information about the Obama background, I find it interesting to see the large volume of records that Mr. Obama has had sealed from the public view.

Now before I am identified as a birther, let’s leave his birth record out of the equation. But shouldn’t you wonder why this man has sealed the following information: Occidental College records; Columbia College records; Harvard College records; Selective Service Registration; Medical records; Illinois State Senate schedule; Illinois State Senate records; Law practice client list.

I am also interested in learning why Michelle Obama can no longer practice law as at attorney, as I am in his alleged ‘foreign student aid’ as a college student.

If this president truly believes in transparency in government, and if the liberal left desires so much information about Republican candidates, why are all of these records being kept from the public?

My, the left seems to want their cake and eat it too. Come on Mr. President, let’s open up your background for all to see and put to bed any issues that may be out in the general population.

  • 20 votes
#1.21 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

true -- I wrote a pretty good response then decided to not waste my time with yet another individual that cannot see what is happening so hit the ignore button instead.

  • 7 votes
#1.22 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:28 PM EDT

Oh lookie here...Spanky comes back form his "vacation" and he's just rattling off the current talking points...never missing a beat.

But, NoJo and Smiffy have managed to surpass you in the "Infinite Wisdom" department with some REALLY stupid crap...and I can see you are trying to regain the title.

Too bad you can't seem to find the ignore button...

  • 15 votes
#1.23 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

"Our economy always come back, comes back -- but it's no thanks to the policies of Barack Obama."

In other words, if the economy does not get better, it's Obama's fault. If it does get better, it was not due to Obama's policies.

Republican BS. This is "Heads I win, tails you lose"

Still waiting for Romney to talk about what he will do to improve the economy. So far, all he has said is, "Obama bad, Me good"

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 36 votes
#1.24 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:34 PM EDT

fresh -- you are correct. in the democrat world of "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." so eloquently spoken by President Bill Clinton, President Obama never made the statement but -- The 8% number did come from members of his Administration and was used in the presentation of the stimulus bill to the congress. Obama certainly NEVER said, "Wait a minute. The 8% number may be a little low". So, ultimately, this is not a case of what he, himself, said word for word, but rather a case allowing people to be led to believe it because of what he did not say. Rather sleazy.

  • 8 votes
#1.25 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:36 PM EDT
Comment author avatarDUANE-552524Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Give him hell Mitt. Make that joker run on his accomplishments or lack there of.

  • 10 votes
#1.26 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:42 PM EDT
Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

What's up Mickey?

So glad to see that you missed me.

Oh well, good to see your are the same one trick pony - only able to talk about what others have to say, never able to formulate a thought on your own.

So sadly predictable.

So very amusing.

  • 5 votes
#1.27 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:50 PM EDT
Comment author avatarweery oneExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

If you're a poll follower Obama is sinking like the Titanic. It would look much worse if RCP didn't allow the obvious slanted ones as much weight. Wait until light is shining on Obama's record and the American people are reminded of the many scandals his administration has given us.

The sycophants of NBC may not think he has a problem but no one is listening to NBC. Voter fraud will not elect him this time.

  • 8 votes
#1.28 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

Care4, rallies are not elections or caucuses, they don't count. Where it counts, at the ballot box, Ron Paul is way behind and has never come in first in any state, and doesn't have nearly enough delegates. Too bad, it would be very entertaining to see a debate with cool logic and reason on one side vs. anarchist rants and conspiracy theories on the other.

Instead, when the country needs another FDR, the Republicans are offering us another Herbert Hoover. Sorry, I take that back, they're offering another John D. Rockefeller, a conniving scoundrel who thinks anything can be justified in the name of making profit for the elite. Romney's plans are for even more of the same policies that got us into this mess, with record deficits and a faltering economy. But Romney doesn't care about that, it means the rich will get even richer and that's all that matters to him.

Oh, and Care4 - What Ron Paul plans is the elimination of all laws that protect the working class and middle class from the predations of the wealthy elite. He'd be even worse than Romney, so maybe it IS a good thing Paul is loosing at the ballot box.

  • 8 votes
#1.29 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

MITT FLIP FLOP ROMNUT SUPPORTS THE RYAN PLAN THAT AFFECTS WOMEN AND CHILDREN DEEPLY.

Paul Ryan's Budget takes health insurance away from over 50 million Americans - to pay for a $3 trillion tax cut for the top 1%. Over 62% of the cuts to the Ryan budget are cuts to programs that serve lower-income Americans.

Ryan MAKES CLEAR the GOP/Koch plan to limit our children's access to quality education - and end their chances for a good future in a competitive global economy:

“The Department of Education would be cut by more than $115 billion over a decade. 9.6 million students would see their Pell Grants fall by more than $1000 in 2014, and, over the next decade, over one million students would lose support altogether. This would derail bipartisan education reforms and deeply undermine K-12 education and college opportunity […] Roughly two million slots in Head Start would be eliminated over the next decade — cutting 200,000 children from the program in 2014 alone.” [OMB, 3/21/12]

This is Mr. FLIP FLOP

  • 21 votes
#1.30 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

Why won't Mitt release his tax info? Oh that's right, hiding those offshore accounts, Cayman Islands, Swiss accounts.....could it be he is not giving the correct share to his Morman church? Obviously he does not want to let anyone know how much tax is is not paying by stashing money in these accounts. President Obama is happy to run on his accomplishements. Now if we could only get republicans to learn how to read so they understand how Bush and republiconns destroyed the economy. Put the channel changer down and borrow President Bush's book "My pet Goat." It is brand new as he never finished it. The book Bush did read was "If I ran the Zoo." That was his inspiration to run the country.

  • 14 votes
#1.31 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:54 PM EDT

What a big fat lying Mormon.

Sorry but I'm not voting for an idiot pretty boy who has to ask his pampered poodle of a wife what women (who comprise 52% of the electorate) care about. Anyone running for president should already know what women care about. Obama did. To me it's the same thing as Sarah Palin thinking Saddam Hussein was behind the 9/11 attacks. He's as stupid as she is. I don't care how much money he has. He only has it because of his father and because he's a pretty boy. He is so stupid about the economy that he wanted to tank the auto industry and let everyone lose their homes and rent.

Yesterday I was thinking about Dick Clark for some odd reason. Today he died. I think tomorrow I will think about Mitt the stupid lying Mormon.

  • 20 votes
#1.32 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:56 PM EDT
Comment author avatarThe JazzmanExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Let's see ..... Obamacare, GSA scandal, Secret Service scandal, 23 other Federal department investigations, Fast & Furious, Higher taxes, High unemployment, No Federal Budget, Under-the-table deals, Suing states for enforcing Federal laws, SCOTUS, Solyndra, Gas prices more than doubled, More regulations, Black Panther voter intimidation, No Keystone pipeline, Massive deficit spending, Over 5 trillion added to the national debt with NO RESULTS, No plan for anything except the "Buffet Rule", Speech after speech with no follow-through ...

And this comment got 'Collapsed'? I guess he forgot to mention another 5 TRILLION DOLLARS in just 1000 days, I guess the Secret Service needed that for party money.

Now there's the 'Hope' and keep the 'Change' .......

  • 9 votes
#1.33 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:01 PM EDT
Comment author avatarweery oneExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Has Obama eaten Bo yet?

  • 5 votes
#1.34 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:03 PM EDT
Comment author avatarROY WILSON-336103Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

"Even if you like Barack Obama, we can't afford Barack Obama,"

The election this year will focus on whether we can afford 4 more years of Obama.

Here are the Deficit figures for the last 5 Presidents - with a link to the official government source to verify;

Reagan (1981-1988) = $1.339 Trillion over 8 years, or $167 Billion per year.

Bush 1 (1989-1992) = $933 Billion over 4 years, or $233 Billion per year.

Clinton (1993-2000) = $320 Billion over 8 years, or $40 Billion per year.

Bush 2 (2001-2008) = $2.006 Trillion over 8 years, or $251 Billion per year.

Obama (2009-2012p) = $5.333 Trillion (Proj) over first 4 years, or $1,333 Billion per year. That's $4.6 Trillion more than Bush spent in his first 4 years.

If Obama is reelected, he projects another $5 Trillion of Deficits in the next 4 years, or over $10 Trillion which our children and grandchildren will have as a 'millstone' around their necks for their
entire lives. Running up huge debts is a great way to 'pander for votes', but somebody will have to pay it back (our children) - with interest. Here's the official government link - See Table 1.3;

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals

PS – Let's also look at the 'JOBS' picture under Obama;

The total average number of people employed in 2008 (Bush's last year, including losses at the end of 2008) = 136,790,000.

The total average number of people employed in 2011 (Obama's 3rd year) = 131,359,000 – That's a LOSS under Obama of 5,431,000 net jobs. Here's the Link to official Bureau of Labor Statistics site on employment to verify - Compare jobs for 2011 vs 2008;

ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb1.txt

  • 12 votes
#1.35 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:07 PM EDT

The FLIP FLOPPER has spoken, keep telling everyone what they want to hear, the Real Americans got your number.

OBAMA BY A LANDSLIDE!!!

  • 23 votes
#1.36 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:08 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJob1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Oh what a day. These right wing sh!t heads are like turds that won't flush.

  • 17 votes
#1.37 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:09 PM EDT

These right wing sh!t heads are like turds that won't flush.

They just keep floating around the punch bowl...

  • 23 votes
#1.38 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:12 PM EDT
Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

THat's funny Feisty - cause you sure seem to like hanging around here, even with all the floaters.

Oh and Job1 - so you got a hankering for turds, do you?

  • 11 votes
#1.39 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:17 PM EDT

Fido's bones won't flush.

  • 1 vote
#1.40 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:17 PM EDT

They just keep floating around the punch bowl..

They sure do:-)

  • 10 votes
#1.41 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:17 PM EDT

Laura-3089574

The FLIP FLOPPER has spoken, keep telling everyone what they want to hear, the Real Americans got your number.

How can we have his number, it keeps changing.

  • 11 votes
#1.42 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:21 PM EDT

@justoneguy - 1.9

Thanks for re-posting my comment from yesterday. It's an honor to be copied, but they'll collapse you every time you post the truth. I have since added - No voter I.D and those shovel ready jobs.

  • 7 votes
#1.43 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

The FLIP FLOPPER has spoken, keep telling everyone what they want to hear, the Real Americans got your number.

Agreed, Real Americans have the FLIP FLOPPER Obama's number, and it's up in 2012. Here's at LEAST 10 FULL FLOPS and 60+ broken promises Obama has failed to deliver on.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/rulings/full-flop/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/?page=1

Mitt Romney is going to pwn.

  • 3 votes
#1.44 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:29 PM EDT

I'm thinking of marketing a bumper sticker that says "Mitt is full of --it!" Waddya think?

  • 14 votes
#1.45 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:34 PM EDT

Obama can start packing, Mitt have the momentum Mitt and Obama are tide in ABC polls , in Gallup Romney 47% Obama 45%, Obama favor 47% , Obama desaprove 48% and he just start, this will be another landslide , like 2010.

  • 4 votes
#1.46 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:41 PM EDT

Hey oskar - nice spelling. Home schooled, eh?

  • 17 votes
#1.47 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:54 PM EDT

Sure oskar, you are living in lala land.

  • 12 votes
#1.48 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:00 PM EDT

james-1937467

fresh -- you are correct. in the democrat world of "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." so eloquently spoken by President Bill Clinton, President Obama never made the statement but -- The 8% number did come from members of his Administration and was used in the presentation of the stimulus bill to the congress. Obama certainly NEVER said, "Wait a minute. The 8% number may be a little low". So, ultimately, this is not a case of what he, himself, said word for word, but rather a case allowing people to be led to believe it because of what he did not say. Rather sleazy.

The 8% number comes from the Obama administration's advisers who even said that that was an uncertain number. Plus it was declared False by Politifact. Sorry James, but truth sides with the left on this one...

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

  • 14 votes
#1.49 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:12 PM EDT

Bush 2 (2001-2008) = $2.006 Trillion over 8 years, or $251 Billion per year.

Are you @!$%#ing kidding me???? How the hell did Bush raise the debt by only $2 trillion??? Debt went from $5.5 trillion to $11.9 trillion under his watch!!!! He raised the debt by roughly $6.4 trillion over 8 years, or $800 billion a year. Obama raised the debt by approximately $3 trillion over 4 years, missing Bush's deficits by $50 billion. And Bush's deficits were during a good economy. Obama had the worst economy in decades!!! Plus if you subtract deficits caused by the recession, Bush would lead Obama by a much larger margin.

And Roy, Obama won't increase the debt by $5 trillion over the next 4 years, as that would require trillion dollar deficits for each of those years. We are expected to dip under a trillion next year and will stay down for a few years. Sorry Roy, but your logic is ridiculously off.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

  • 20 votes
#1.50 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:26 PM EDT

"Bush 2 (2001-2008) = $2.006 Trillion over 8 years, or $251 Billion per year."

That is nothing less than a bald faced lie. Starting and fumbling two wars is damned expensive and Bush is a war criminal and an incompetent administrator to bring this country to its knees. Thank goodness our president is heading toward an inevitable reelection in November. Another GOP president would be just enough to sink this country. Damn.

  • 18 votes
#1.51 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:40 PM EDT

And Bush's deficits were during a good economy.

If you believe that 9/11, Enron/Worldcom fiascoes, wars, and a housing bubble represent a "good" economy, you are @!$%#ing kidding me!! I did NOT like Bush, he was a weak president, but he did NOT have a good economy.

And your numbers are off. Obama has raised the debt by more in three years than Bush did in eight.

National Debt
Jan 19, 2001 = $5.728T (Bush start)
Jan 20, 2009 = $10.627T (Obama start)
Jan 20, 2012 = $15.236T
Bush Increase (8 Years) = $4,899B
Debt/year Avg. = $612.4B
Obama Increase (3 Years) = $4,609B
Debt/year Avg. = $1,536.3B (2.5x faster than Bush)
Projected 2016 Debt Current Rate = $22.9175T

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

It's time to get rid of the Bush-failure-on-Steriods, idiot President we have in office now.

  • 1 vote
#1.52 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:45 PM EDT

tonybeeerm

I'm thinking of marketing a bumper sticker that says "Mitt is full of --it!" Waddya think

I've got a better one.

Tony loves the Big O bony

  • 1 vote
#1.53 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:47 PM EDT

I've got a better one.

Tony loves the Big O bony

Yuk, yuk. Golly gee willikers, Goober. That thar is funny!!!!

Hey, whatever weirdo one. I'm sure no one will understand what that's about.

  • 8 votes
#1.54 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:48 PM EDT

Well, the Bush economy wasn't in a recession. And the economy did not decrease revenues like this one.

  • 4 votes
#1.55 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:50 PM EDT

Americans have become weary of the "entitlement" attitude among the 1%.

Citibank's own savvy stockholders rejected a $15 million pay package for the bank's CEO.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/47093152/

Romney's "Start Packing?"

Obama may have very little to worry about.

  • 9 votes
#1.56 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:57 PM EDT

Mitty we DON'T like you and sure as HELL can not afford YOU or your Policies.All the Obama bashers,Oh how shallow you people prove to be.Mr Money wiped the primary Map with a impressive Ass Kicking of the so-called Conservative candidates.What a Joke.The TEAparty trounced by the North east Liberal,here is some love,xoxoxoxoxo.Maybe Mitty will invite the disgraced Teadrinkers over to the BEACH FRONT property for some HUMILITY lessons,Opps that's not going to happen,all the illegals working on the Renovations will think they are being replaced.Mystic Michelle get your Nanny skill updated,and Newty and the Two Ricks can sharpen their hammer-in skills,folks Mitty is hiring,GET In LINE!!!!!!

  • 10 votes
#1.57 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:58 PM EDT

fresh -- politifact says that Obama did not say it. that is what I wrote.

His appointees wrote the report and he did not dispute it so implicitly supported the message. Of course they were uncertain. They were too inexperienced in the real world of business to know any better, but that is just an excuse. Something the administration has perfected.

the truth is that President Obama demonstrated his true political inexperience and Chicago-style sleaziness with the stimulus failure.

  • 1 vote
#1.58 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:11 PM EDT

Freshie - about politifact

It was founded by the St Petersburg Times, and since has hooked in other major Newspapers in Florida. All come from a Liberal Leaning. It is just one of many fact-checking groups who feign neutrality with the formula of 3 against conservatives to 1 against liberals.

A much better practice would be to be familiar with government agencies, procedures, practices, and history. The problem is that these places are only to happy to supply you with their version of the "facts".

http://mediatrackers.org/2011/12/19/unbiased-politifact-repeatedly-biased-against-conservative-groups/

http://oregoncatalyst.com/7461-study-finds-significant-pro-democrat-politifact-bias.html

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/05/politifact_and_the_scam_of_neutral_expertise/

http://newsbusters.org/forums/topic-discussion/bias-politifact

http://www.educationnews.org/breaking_news/washington/100846.html

  • 1 vote
#1.60 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:26 PM EDT

62mga

"no voter ID and shovel ready jobs" getting added along with "Solyndra"...my contribution.

    #1.61 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:34 AM EDT

    To: Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL who always manages to post #1, this time #2. WOW girl, how do you do it?

    "Gee... any idea who President Obama is referring to? lolI believe it was more then likely a platinum spoon & an 18K gold rattle in each hand!Godspeed to Dick Clark - New Year's Eve will never be the same! ;o("

    Yee! Girlfriend I guess John F Kennedy was not the good President and loved by all Left and right since he was also born with a platinum spoon. Not to mix two stories I ate dog in China when I was a little girl. OH yes! I have an Aikida (a dog).

    It is so funny but it is good to see how organize you and your followers are. Too bad is the same old, same old.

    • 1 vote
    #1.62 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:19 AM EDT

    We can't afford Obama? Willard needs to release all his tax returns (and offshore accounts), So we can see if we can afford him.

    • 3 votes
    #1.63 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:28 AM EDT

    The republicans are false witnesses. Honor has completely left them. It simply no longer resides within them. Would not know it if it were staring them straight in the face. Pityful leaders and followers. False witnesses all. No credibility whatsoever. Makes you wonder how they can ever regain their credibility and honor. They will never get any from me again. EVER! They have crossed ALL the lines of fairness. Their actions these last 3 years make them truly unamerican.

    • 4 votes
    #1.64 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:30 AM EDT

    Any source that exposes the lies of Republicans is biased...looks like the pubbies have been learning from Al & Jessie.

      #1.65 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

      Freshieee "And Roy, Obama won't increase the debt by $5 trillion over the next 4 years, as that would require trillion dollar deficits for each of those years. We are expected to dip under a trillion next year and will stay down for a few years. Sorry Roy, but your logic is ridiculously off."

      I presumeyou're tslking about my post which was 'collapsed' because of those inconvenient truths' (repeated below). I seem to remember that Obama also promised to cut the Deficits in half by the end of his first term. Are you still really believing Obama's rosy projections? Obama projects another $1.327 Deficit for 2012 - can't waitt for those 'magic' Deficit cuts he promised.

      The election this year will focus on whether we can afford 4 more years of Obama.

      Here are the Deficit figures for the last 5 Presidents - with a link to the official government source to verify;

      Reagan (1981-1988) = $1.339 Trillion over 8 years, or $167 Billion per year.

      Bush 1 (1989-1992) = $933 Billion over 4 years, or $233 Billion per year.

      Clinton (1993-2000) = $320 Billion over 8 years, or $40 Billion per year.

      Bush 2 (2001-2008) = $2.006 Trillion over 8 years, or $251 Billion per year.

      Obama (2009-2012p) = $5.333 Trillion (Proj) over first 4 years, or $1,333 Billion per year. That's $4.6 Trillion more than Bush spent in his first 4 years.

      If Obama is reelected, he projects another $5 Trillion of Deficits in the next 4 years, or over $10 Trillion which our children and grandchildren will have as a 'millstone' around their necks for their
      entire lives. Running up huge debts is a great way to 'pander for votes', but somebody will have to pay it back (our children) - with interest. Here's the official government link - See Table 1.3;

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals

      PS – Let's also look at the 'JOBS' picture under Obama;

      The total average number of people employed in 2008 (Bush's last year, including losses at the end of 2008) = 136,790,000.

      The total average number of people employed in 2011 (Obama's 3rd year) = 131,359,000 – That's a LOSS under Obama of 5,431,000 net jobs. Here's the Link to official Bureau of Labor Statistics site on employment to verify - Compare jobs for 2011 vs 2008;

      ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb1.txt

        #1.66 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

        The accompanying photo presents Ole Romney more greasy looking than usual. Wonder if He's gotten himself a new makeup artist? What was It He said He would do for us? Not a gwaddamn thing! Romney is as full of sh^t as a constipated Elephant.

        • 3 votes
        #1.67 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

        seem to remember that Obama also promised to cut the Deficits in half by the end of his first term. Are you still really believing Obama's rosy projections? Obama projects another $1.327 Deficit for 2012 - can't waitt for those 'magic' Deficit cuts he promised.

        Deficits are going to be at about $900 billion next year. Ask the CBO. As for the campaign promise, I seem to remember that the Republicans promised to run on "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs," not ignite culture wars or obstruct Congress.

        OBAMA BIDEN 2012

        And your deficit numbers are a bit too rosy for Bush. Try using math instead of budget gimmicks.

        • 5 votes
        #1.68 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

        Entitled Fiesty??? Now THAT's funny... he pays more taxes than BY HIMSELF than 47% of Americans... that's about 90% of you 2008 Obozo voters... ha ha ha ha

          #1.69 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:55 AM EDT

          President Harry Truman in 1948: “The Republicans … will try to
          make people believe that everything the Government has done for the country is
          socialism. They will go to the people and say: "Did you see that social security
          check you received the other day—you thought that was good for you, didn't you?
          That's just too bad! That's nothing in the world but socialism. Did you see that
          new flood control dam the Government is building over there for the protection
          of your property? Sorry—that's awful socialism! That new hospital that they are
          building is socialism. Price supports, more socialism for the farmers! Minimum
          wage laws? Socialism for labor! Socialism is bad for you, my friend. Everybody
          knows that. And here you are, with your new car, and your home, and better
          opportunities for the kids, and a television set—you are just surrounded by
          socialism! Now the Republicans say, ‘That's a terrible thing, my friend, and the
          only way out of this sinkhole of socialism is to vote for the Republican
          ticket:... And That was 64 Years Ago!!! The republicanCrimeCartel knows NO limits of Immorality. YOU want to Know REAL SUFFERING??, then elect Rommel and his band of RepublicanPirateSoldiers!!! You will experience REAL PAIN; That I PROMISE YOU!!!!

          • 2 votes
          #1.70 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:14 PM EDT
          Reply

          North Carolina Democrats are working overtime to hand the state over to Romney.

          http://www.sacbee.com/2012/04/16/4416909/nc-democratic-party-director-steps.html

          The only thing missing is rock and roll.

          • 12 votes
          #2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

          Yes, I'm sure THAT is what the fine people of North Carolina will be thinking about on Election Day.

          • 11 votes
          #2.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

          No Jo, how many times are you going to post the same crap. Find something new for crap sakes. You are getting old and so are your posts.

          • 22 votes
          #2.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

          You may be right, noid.

          I'm pretty sure what the people of nc are thinking about doing on election day is ridding the state of democrats.

          I'm pretty sure they're going to succeed.

          Oh- and laws were broken here, so it's a news story- whether you like it or not.

          • 11 votes
          #2.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

          Just my guy

          have you thought about how the House eGOP's has helped you in any way. Not with the swearing of Boehner making all things good for the USA void and nil.

          • 7 votes
          #2.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

          The educated people of NC can see though the deception, half truths and flat out lies of the Republicans. The uneducated people of NC will follow Fox/Rush and Ted Nuggent, and still believe the zombies are coming. They will vote for Romney...then get back to their Burger King jobs.

          • 36 votes
          #2.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:46 PM EDT

          Hey Jo,

          that's the democratic party way. It's how they show their love for women. That....and with cigars. Wait! They also have baby mama's who get paid on the taxpayer dime. And they rape them. Or send women who are strangers pics of their genitals. Then tell their wives "it's Bush's fault". Oh yeah, let's not forget they pay them 18% less for doing the same jobs as men. And they mock stay at home moms for loving their children. and they think a woman's worth is measured by how much contraceptives may be required. or how often they may need an abortion.

          • 8 votes
          #2.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:11 PM EDT

          I don't understand why people still think that the Republicans are the answer to every problem; so far, they have been the source of all problems. They removed all of the economic safeguards on Wall Street and Wall Street reciprocated by trying to give us another Great Depression. The Republicans gave us 2 wars that weren't paid for and gave us $2 Trillion worth of debt; they cut taxes for the wealthy and gave us another Trillion dollars worth of debt. Then, they raised spending on everything else and gave us another couple of trillion dollars worth of debt; all of this they did after we managed to squeeze out 3 years of surpluses (out of the last 40 years). They opened up easy credit and convinced everyone that buying, on credit, was the elixir that we all needed. Now, we are still in the midst of a credit crisis with too much personal debt. All of those that the, so-called, "Job Creators" were supposed to create? Just another crack pipe dream.

          This is one Reagan voter that will never vote Republican again. I can only wish that everyone else would read the handwriting on the wall and go for the less-offensive alternative.

          • 39 votes
          #2.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:15 PM EDT

          The Republicans gave us 2 wars that weren't paid for and gave us $2 Trillion worth of debt.

          Obama is giving us 5 trillion in debt in less than four years and we are still on war, in four more years Obama will double our national debt. My kids can not afford that. I will never vote Democrat.

          4 years was enaugh.

          • 13 votes
          #2.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:34 PM EDT

          So Obama is the solution to our Debt? Did he invite you on vacation to Hawaii yet? Have you had dinner with Barack? Do you work for the secret service or the GSA? How many $3 donations do you make each week to Barack. Are you good friends yet with Joe and Michelle. Are you waiting for your three musketeers bars to be cut down in size at the request of the first lady. Got to stay trim ya know...fit as a fiddle! Make sure you read the affordable care act so when the supreme court rules on it you ain't crying over spilt milk! Make sure ya vote for Nancy Pelosi again. These folks in Washington sure know how to fix our country the right way. yep...keep those checks a comin! Keep blowin those taxpayer dollars. keep the printin presses rollin.

          • 12 votes
          #2.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:36 PM EDT

          Let's see ..... Obamacare, GSA scandal, Secret Service scandal, 23 other Federal department investigations, Fast & Furious, Higher taxes, High unemployment, No Federal Budget, Under-the-table deals, Suing states for enforcing Federal laws, No voter I.D., Shovel ready jobs, SCOTUS, Solyndra, Gas prices more that doubled, More regulations, Black Panther voter intimidation, No Keystone pipeline, Massive deficit spending, Over 5 trillion added to the national debt, No plan for anything except the "Buffet Rule", Speech after speech with no follow-through, and on & on & on. Oh, and did I mention that NONE of this is Barack Obama’s fault. It he inherited it from “the previous administration”.

          Is this the direction our country should be heading? Aren’t we better than that?

          I think Romney will have enough to campaign on.

          • 12 votes
          #2.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:38 PM EDT

          Let's see - the Democrats chose Charlotte for their convention - because the state is Republican? Yeah, sure, whatever you say ...

          In the Democratic Party, sexual harassment is a scandal. In the Republican Party, sexual harassment is a qualification to run for President. Are you really, really sure you want to play that game of 'go fish'?

          Was Romney's little speech to counter Obama's nomination - or - was Romney just practicing a 'sour grapes' speech for why he lost another election?

          • 14 votes
          #2.11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:56 PM EDT

          i love oscar. if you all of unfortunate enough to elect romney, in four years there will be no america.

            #2.12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:02 PM EDT

            Uh, Nerm? Cain ended his campaign, remember?

            Parker is refusing calls FROM DEMOCRATS, to resign. Moreover, he compounded the first wrong- the harassment- by firing the complaining victim.

            That's against the law.

            He arranged a settlement payment without the Executive Committee even knowing about the complaint, never mind the settlement.

            That's against the law.

            Local news posted the attorney letter sent to party headquarters

            http://www.wral.com/news/state/nccapitol/story/10998615/

            I'm not a journalist- so, no, I don't know how they got it- or from whom. Meanwhile, there are several sources that state that Chicago does not want Parker to resign until THEY can arrange his replacement.

            Kind of makes you wonder where the settlement money came from. . .

            • 2 votes
            #2.13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:09 PM EDT

            Go Mitt Raw Money 2012, Hurraaa!!!

            The savior is in town ( NC ).

            If all this blinded and hopeless people only knew what kind of boiler room and behind the scenes capitalist shark Mitt Raw Money really is.

            Only in America!

            • 9 votes
            #2.14 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:18 PM EDT

            oskar-1391552
            The Republicans gave us 2 wars that weren't paid for and gave us $2 Trillion worth of debt.

            Obama is giving us 5 trillion in debt in less than four years and we are still on war, in four more years Obama will double our national debt. My kids can not afford that. I will never vote Democrat.

            4 years was enaugh.

            It will take a generation to undo the damage done by Obama in 4 years.

            • 10 votes
            #2.15 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:20 PM EDT

            Nerm_L

            Let's see - the Democrats chose Charlotte for their convention - because the state is Republican? Yeah, sure, whatever you say ...

            In the Democratic Party, sexual harassment is a scandal. In the Republican Party, sexual harassment is a qualification to run for President. Are you really, really sure you want to play that game of 'go fish'?

            Was Romney's little speech to counter Obama's nomination - or - was Romney just practicing a 'sour grapes' speech for why he lost another election?

            When did Bill Clinton, the most prolific political serial sexual harasser since, well Jack Kennedy, switch parties? His wife is going to be pissed when she gets home....again.

            • 6 votes
            #2.16 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:24 PM EDT

            "Upon being elected president he said if we let him borrow $787 billion he would hold unemployment below eight percent..."

            Poor Mittens. He couldn't tell the truth if you paid him.

            • 11 votes
            #2.17 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

            I think this is truly how the right thinks and I cant help but laugh even though it is so sad.

            • 11 votes
            #2.18 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:33 PM EDT

            John-2032532

            oskar-1391552
            The Republicans gave us 2 wars that weren't paid for and gave us $2 Trillion worth of debt.

            Obama is giving us 5 trillion in debt in less than four years and we are still on war, in four more years Obama will double our national debt. My kids can not afford that. I will never vote Democrat.

            4 years was enaugh.

            It will take a generation to undo the damage done by Obama in 4 years.

            And it will take three to realize that Obama was right all along....

            OBAMA BIDEN 2012

            • 13 votes
            #2.19 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:41 PM EDT

            Nerm doesn't really know anything. How old are you? 16?

            • 1 vote
            #2.20 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:41 PM EDT

            Hope all you libs will get used to saying "President Romney" because that's the way it's gonna be!! After the last three and a half years most Americans look forward to it. obumbo has been the worst failure since carter.

            • 6 votes
            #2.21 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:52 PM EDT

            Bye bye Romney... Looks like your not the nominee.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BpL6eQyXDs

              #2.22 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:25 PM EDT

              ORomney is acting much the same way as Obama did with Bush. The best offense is a good defense strategy. Complete with negative ad campaighns to rail against Obama.

              ORomney is no better then Obama. He has no answer for anything. He has no solutions. If ORomney is elected it will be buisness as usual . He don't fool me.

              • 1 vote
              #2.23 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:43 PM EDT

              I saw the president's speech today and quite frankly, Romney and the Republicans got pwned! Hope they're ready to sit down and shut up in the back of the bus come November.

              • 5 votes
              #2.24 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:23 PM EDT

              Romney spoke in front of a crowd of about 150 people in Charlotte. It looked like a number of them were dozing off by the end. There just aren't that many people who want to go listen to a robot give a warmed over stump speech.

              • 6 votes
              #2.25 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:28 PM EDT

              @no joe, no bo, nj -- Yeah, Cain suspended his campaign - so he could continue to raise cash before he became too damaged. Question is - did Cain stop being a sexual harasser?

              Who paid for the K Street strippers to entertain the RNC? Somehow, I doubt Republicans pay for their 'entertainment', either.

              You guys had your chance to select a real candidate - but no - you guys went with clown car politicians. Maybe you guys could switch support to Ron Paul - make a 'principled' choice. Or you could keep Romney - two candidates - in one person - for the price of ten.

              Good luck with that. Really.

              • 2 votes
              #2.26 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:10 PM EDT

              You guys had your chance to select a real candidate - but no - you guys went with clown car politicians. Maybe you guys could switch support to Ron Paul - make a 'principled' choice. Or you could keep Romney - two candidates - in one person - for the price of ten

              Our opponent is O'bama...We will be fine

              @no joe, no bo, nj -- Yeah, Cain suspended his campaign - so he could continue to raise cash before he became too damaged. Question is - did Cain stop being a sexual harasser?

              Did Bill stop being a rapist once he got into the White House? Yes, I think he stopped raping, and went on to more subtle acts...there is hope for Cain too

              • 1 vote
              #2.27 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:27 PM EDT

              I'm pretty sure Mitt wasn't hanging out with the uneducated N.C. voters at the Meyers Park (My-ers Pahk if you go there) Country Club today. If any of those old money folks were snoozing, it was probably from a little too much time spent at the 19th hole, or from spending too much time with the feed bag on. BTW, word has it that former Nationsbank and BOA chairman Hugh McColl, the architect of Charlotte's skyline and a 2008 Obama supporter, was hanging with Mitt.

              The bottom line is the Romney campaign hass hit the starting line for November* running, and whoever put him across from the BOA Stadium deserves a raise.

              On the other hand, the Obama campaign is suffering through a bit of badly timed bad P.R., some deserved, some not so much, with one scandal (the G.S.A) indicative of what's wrong with too many officials in our morbidly obese Federal Government (that spending and staffing levels aren't tied to economic reality) and one (the Secret Service) indicative of what's wrong with too many members of our society (failing to have basic standards for their conduct).

              While I don't believe the Secret Service scandal should reflect poorly on the Obama administration, I believe the G.S.A. scandal reflects poorly on the entire morbidly obese Federal Government (something BOTH parties are responsible for, but only one party seems to want to address), and it as well as the Secret Service scandal highlights why we need not only a smaller Federal Government, but one with higher standards for those who serve it.

              * which is still over a half year away, a near eternity for political campaigns

              • 1 vote
              #2.28 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:41 PM EDT

              @Skorned -- I understand the jealousy. More women prefer Democrats. Polling data has confirmed that.

              The one thing the Republican primaries have proven - money cannot buy you love.

              Maybe a Rock Star candidate is more appealing than a clown car politician?

              The Democrats have Obama. You have ????

              Good luck with that. Really.

              • 3 votes
              #2.29 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:53 PM EDT

              Yeah, Mitt.. leave out the part about how Repubs have rejected EVERY plan proposal in Congress... making Congress meaningless. The rich stopped hiring to increase their profits even more and to hold the unemployment up to make sure that Obama was a one term President. They don't like that the days of them stealing from the middle class may be coming to an end. Also, Obama stated that the economy was going to get worse before it got better. He stopped the recession from becoming an even worse nightmare, and his plan is EARNING back money for the taxpayers. Leave out the truth...continue to spit out lies. The only people you're REALLY interested in are the very wealthy and the big corporations. They'll start hiring again when the GOP is in the White House so that President can take credit. Do people really and truly think that the President can force people to hire?? The GOP has shown the last four years that they don't give a damn about the middle class and the poor. They will play as nasty as they have to in order to stonewall any attempt by the dems to make things better.. then blame Obama. If people that buy his crap are going to vote, they damn well better go back and educate themselves on what WOULD have happened if Obama did not do the things he did. The unemployment rate would be even higher than it is now, and the economy would be much worse than it is. The GOP wants to continue with the old boy Bush plan which did NOTHING but hurt the middle class and make the rich even richer. The oil companies are still making record profits (as well as many of the big corporations) and the rich have continued to get richer.

              Even though there are more families needing public assistance now more than ever, the GOP is still crying to cut benefits and undo the healthcare changes which have saved hundreds of thousands of Americans from being uninsured. They are anti-choice, anti-birth control, anti-public help.. basically anti-poor and anti-middle class. They have never been so open about the things they are against. YET.. the people who are becoming interested are the poor and middle class. I guess you get what you get. When you can't eat, have no medical care and STILL don't have a job.. don't you DARE complain!! You'll be responsible for ruining your own life and the lives of millions of others. Obama said it was going to take more than one term to even begin to fix this mess. He walked into a total cluster. He did what he said he was going to do, though. The things that didn't get done are the result of the GOP. If you want to finish off this country, join the Christian Taliban. Keep in mind, though, that this guy wears magic underwear!

              • 8 votes
              #2.30 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:07 AM EDT

              Romney has the same problem that John Kerry had. He can tell you what the POTUS is doing wrong but has no policies of his own. Gimme a break with this @!$%#.

              • 5 votes
              #2.31 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:58 AM EDT

              weery one

              Nerm doesn't really know anything. How old are you? 16?

              Why the hell does age matter??? There are millions of smart adolescents and idiotic adults in the world. Stop using age-related stereotypes and use common sense.

              OBAMA BIDEN 2012

              • 2 votes
              #2.32 - Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:03 PM EDT
              Reply

              Irrelevant! Romney can't even BUY the election with his millions of dollars as much as he's trying. I wonder if he realizes all the money he's spending is actually helping the economy. LMAO!! Silly supid Rich kid! Anyone remember Frances from Pee Wee's Big Adventure? Frances = Mitt Romney He had all the money in the world... and then stole Pee Wee bike when he couldn't buy it from him. Remember?

              • 23 votes
              #3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

              Anyone remember Frances from Pee Wee's Big Adventure? Frances = Mitt Romney

              Good Grief....how desparate can one get?

              • 8 votes
              #3.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

              Mike the IT guy - - Good grief - could you sound any more ignorant? Like him or not, you apparently haven't the smallest clue of how he has conducted his life, made his money, or anything else about him. Do be quiet until you have some relevant information - which, by the way, you probably will not get from the likes of Pee Wee's Big Adventure.

              • 10 votes
              #3.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

              And then PeeWee went to a porn theater in Florida and got caught with his pants down spanking the monkey in public.

              • 4 votes
              #3.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

              Sorry, Mitt,

              I don't listen to Corporate Raiders.

              Oh, by the way, Mitt, how is that new Mansion you just bought for millions working out for you eh?

              • 15 votes
              #3.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

              Which mansion? Is that the one in south Florida? Is that the one with or without the car elevator?

              • 12 votes
              #3.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

              No, the mansion with the car elevator is in California. You have to wonder why Romney would want to live in a state full of liberals. You don't think he's a closet liberal himself, do you?

              • 8 votes
              #3.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

              Obama is a rich people too, he lives in the withe house with hundred of servants and a private trainer and secret service to make sure "Bo" don't end in the kitchen table.

              • 6 votes
              #3.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

              If you like 8+ unemployment, the green program, High gas prices, which has raised the price of most everything, prospect of higher price health care, a deal with the Russians to reduce our defense, pay afgainstan 2 Billion dollars on our pull out and more programs to turn us into a Spain. These are things that have happen under Our current president.More of the same or worse vote to reelect him.

              • 7 votes
              #3.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:36 PM EDT

              How true, Mike. It took him six months and millions of dollars to defeat a mental patient in a sweater vest. I don't like to make guarantees, but i'm safely going to make this one. Romney will self destruct way before the serious part of the campaigning begins. By July, he will be buried.

              • 14 votes
              #3.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:38 PM EDT

              Hey Oskar, all presidents live in the White House during their tenure. They have the same servants and Secret Service protection as well. Did you not pay attention in school? Oh wait, you were probably one of those "home schooled kids" the rwnj's like to brag about. I rest my case.

              • 17 votes
              #3.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:42 PM EDT

              @MiketheITguy

              You sound jealous that Romney has money. Good for him, I wish I had his savy to invest the way he did. Hopefully he will use his savy to get this country out of the hugh debt. Obummer just dug the hole deeper.

              • 8 votes
              #3.11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

              You don't think he's a closet liberal himself, do you?

              Too funny ;) Judging by his looks, he reminds me of something else out of the closet.

              • 7 votes
              #3.12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:45 PM EDT

              Hopefully he will use his savy to get this country out of the hugh debt.

              AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

              Can't you friggin' teabag morons spell????? What in hell is hugh debt? Is it like Hugh Downs, or maybe Hugh Knew.

              • 12 votes
              #3.13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:49 PM EDT

              Looks like Obama is the one self destructing...with a little help from his adminstration and appointees...

              • 7 votes
              #3.14 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:50 PM EDT

              tonyb.

              Of course I can spell, ever here of an error...NASTY PERSON!!

              • 6 votes
              #3.15 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:25 PM EDT

              Obummer pack your bags you're on your way out in 2012

              • 7 votes
              #3.16 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:26 PM EDT

              MikeITGUY...put down the bong.

              • 4 votes
              #3.17 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:29 PM EDT

              shariannie,

              "Of course I can spell, ever here of an error..."

              Yes, practically anything you write or think would qualify.

              You may be able to spell, but you definitely suck at choosing the proper words. I think the word you were looking for was "hear" not "here". I guess they don't teach homonyms in Alabama or Mississippi or whatever backwater state you're from. Please reply. It will be interesting to see if you can string more than three words together without misspelling two of them.

              • 6 votes
              #3.18 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:20 PM EDT

              Following the President around is classless and thuggish. Who's the thug in this equation? Maybe some of Obama's charisma will rub off on him. Not.

              • 5 votes
              #3.19 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:36 PM EDT

              Libs have to attack bad spelling. What else do they have? They certainly can't talk up Obama, based on his record.

              • 4 votes
              #3.20 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:39 PM EDT

              Poor spelling skills are the hallmark of a semi-literate bottom feeder, and it is proof that you are not capable of the intellectual horsepower necessary to understand the issues, much less to write a post that is thoughtful and well reasoned.

              Fail.

              • 14 votes
              #3.21 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:45 PM EDT

              tonybeeerm

              Your a typical liberal troll. You don't have the ability to contribute anything of substance to a debate, so you rail on someone about things like their looks, when all the time you are humping the leg of someone who looks like they just stepped out of a Curious George book.

              Also noticed how liberals like you like to try and make people feel inferior to you because of your education or intelligence without understanding there's no necessary parallel between noise and intelligence.

              • 4 votes
              #3.22 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:21 PM EDT

              @twistedfister - okay professor, what ever you say. Except I notice you don't bring anything of substance either. Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? But, hey I did catch your little racist dig there. Nice try, except the people you defend haven't a clue what your talking about. They only repeat what they're programmed to. And if you call this a debate, i've got beachfront property in the Mojave Desert to sell you. But I do get a chuckle from your vine name. Is that what you do to your honey?

              • 8 votes
              #3.23 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:37 PM EDT

              Tonybeerm: Quick with the insults and slurs, not too good when it comes to intelligent debate. Typical. Bet you voted for Obama. Pretty obvious in fact.

              Let's see here: friggin moron teabaggers homeschool stupid... you forgot redneck, trailer trash and married to your sister along with blame Bush and racist...must be getting tired, go re-memorize your list.

              • 4 votes
              #3.24 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:18 PM EDT

              Typical Republicans BS, They are all going to get behind Romney no-matter what, I wonder if the Republicans would get behind Hitler, Stalin ,Devil, I think so, that party does not care about the person only the party

              • 7 votes
              #3.25 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:18 PM EDT

              Um, one could say the same thing about democrats. BTW, is Obama all the democrats have to offer? Isn't there someone, anyone, besides Obama? Really?

              • 3 votes
              #3.26 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:31 PM EDT

              Nothing but liberal hypocrites. There was never any mention of Senator John Kerry's wealth when he ran for president as the richest person to ever via for the seat. But now with the Obama class warfare in full swing the left sees a piggy bank that they want broken. Obama is ushering in the most divisive election ever, from the war on women, partisan politics, race war, and class warfare. Since Obama has been a total failure as president, he certainly has no record of accomplishment to run on. But Obama loves the perks of the job, the free jet, the free helicopter, the free vacations, the free golf, the free parties...

              • 3 votes
              #3.27 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:41 AM EDT

              Rick-all presidents get the free stuff. Obama saved the auto industry, killed Osama Bin Laden, started to fix the Bush Economy-there is a war on women from the right-Rush Limbaugh's disgusting comments, Arizona's abortion law, Virginia's vaginal law, right wing attacks on Planned Parenthood, Gov Scott Walker of Wisconsin signing the law taking equal pay away from women. GOVERNOR SCOTT WALKER MUST GO. HIS ELECTION IS FIRST AND HE IS THE WORST. REMOVE GOV. WALKER.

              • 4 votes
              #3.28 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:27 AM EDT

              Mr. pondering, Intrade is saying Scott Walker will be re-elected. Just another case of libs and unions wasting state time and resources.

              • 2 votes
              #3.29 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:00 PM EDT

              Well, it would seem that Obama's WH pays the female employees less than the males and...Obama isn't exactly following the 'Buffet Rule' himself, but hey, don't let that get in the way of your narrative. You forgot the unions in your targeting Walker, seems those school districts that got to opt out of the unions are doing well as compared to those still stuck with the unions. In another article there was a listing of those cities doing really poorly, approaching bancruptcy, all of them were run by democrats, and were going broke because of union pensions. Interesting.

              • 2 votes
              #3.30 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:48 PM EDT

              Rob-the democrats don't have a nominee in Wisconsin, yet. When they do let's look at Walker. He must go-the fake call from Koch shows where his loyalty lies-and it isn't in Wisconsin.

                #3.31 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:37 PM EDT
                Reply

                Willard is the WRONG person to run against Obozo. The republicans will lose again.

                • 13 votes
                #4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

                I hope so but never underestimate just how many stupid people there are in this country.

                If Mitt is elected, America is going down.

                • 23 votes
                #4.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

                "America is going down?" America has been going down for the last four years. What rock have you been under?

                Oh, and if you really ARE a Marin mom, I rather doubt your stock will suffer too greatly if Romney wins... And if you really are a liberal, why would you live in Marin? Why not the Mission district, handing out blankets?

                • 3 votes
                #4.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:26 PM EDT

                The economic morass handed to Obama in 2009 was the fault of the Rethugs. America went down from 2000 to 2008 and we have been trying to get back up again faltingly since 2009 with Obama.

                And your solution to that is put the Rethugs who caused the economic collapse back in power again? Are you effing serious? LOL

                Dismissed!!!

                • 16 votes
                #4.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:33 PM EDT

                @marinmom

                Well, look at it this way, we won't have far to fall...Obummer made sure of that.

                • 3 votes
                #4.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:45 PM EDT

                Tsk, again with the blame Bush mantra. How come no one ever seems to remember Clinton? That's a good part of why we're in the do-do...Then they also forget Carter and Johnson and a host of other presidents. It's like liberals can only think so far back and then their mind goes blank. Bush is as far as they can remember, no wonder they still love Obama, they can't see his flaws and colossal acts of malfeasance, no memory.They're like goldfish...every trip around the bowl is a brand new experience.

                • 2 votes
                #4.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:14 PM EDT

                Paulw-396258 Sounds like a typical gay bay, liberal Democrat. God I just can't believe the audacity of some people. Can't they see what Osama Obama is doing to this country. Turning it into total Socialism. Big government = socialism. Obummer has turned a law that was on the books since the Civil War that basically said that no longer could the armed services turn against our own people. Now he can turn the armed services against us. Remember the Marine in San Diego that got ousted and refused to turn against his countryman when the law was passed. Then got his way again by passing into law complete control, without congress or the senate, to call martial law at anytime, including peacetime. So why is he doing that?? So he can become another Hugo Chavez. It is even rumored that if he gets elected again he will try and change the Constitution so that there is no longer term limits for the presidency. So there you go, he's setting everything up to completely control this country just like a dictator. I absolutely refuse to call him my president. He neither acts like one or in my opinion is one. Just like Ted Nugent, where is our freedom of speech?? I tell you if Nuegent goes down I'd bet my bottom dollar there will be hell to pay for this country.

                • 1 vote
                #4.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:40 PM EDT

                Liberals and their blame game. If ya can't fix it, it must be someone elses fault. Yup, you libs are a piece of work alright. Worst president in the history of the country and ya try to blame Bush. LOL LOL LOL

                • 3 votes
                #4.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:03 PM EDT

                Hahaha!! thats funny. Our problems started when Reagan got into office 30 years ago. H. Bush took Reagan's economic polices and ran the American economy into the ground. Remember, it's the Republicans that say deficits don't matter when they're in office. Oh I forgot to mention Our economy was doing fine before Reagan and if he didn't screw up the energy policy that Jimmy Carter had in place we could have been a dominate force in "green" technology around the world.

                • 4 votes
                #4.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:16 PM EDT

                Obamanites love to create their own history. Bush years held unemployment under 6% until the middle of 2008, which is when the financial sector finally went bust from fools who thought housing was another gold rush. Since I'm not a California retard nor an unqualified mortage agent, that crash didn't even affect me, so why the eff would I have issue with Bush? Not to mention, the market drop to 7000 was a gold mine. Also the current president could have pulled out of both wars whenever he wanted to, and he didn't. He maintains a financial distraction to his ridiculous spending plans. If you subtract what's left of the wars, we're still running an unmanageable deficit. Also, what's his logic behind cutting payroll taxes AND extending unemployment benefits? What's this 'Buffet Rule' going to do when millionairres decide to cash in losses at the end of every fiscal year? At 30% vs. 10%, the last big dip would have definitely left you out on the street with a CCC credit rating. If you don't trust the stock market, why would you impose more market risk onto the federal budget? The guy can't even fathom basic arithmetic, and you want to re-elect him? Morons. It's time we hired someone who doesn't get all of his ideas from the good idea fairy.

                • 3 votes
                #4.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:17 PM EDT

                Ahhh son of a bush!!! I put the wrong Bush up I meant G.W. Bush not his grandfather.

                • 2 votes
                #4.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:26 PM EDT

                @Kane: You must have forgot the Bush never put the wars on the books. Next add the Bush tax cuts that were supposed to add jobs that never came around except for in China. Haha you forget in the middle of 2008 who was president and did nothing to try and fix things. Oh wait i forgot Bush bailed out wall street.

                • 6 votes
                #4.11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:33 PM EDT

                You cannot reason with trogs who do not wish to

                hear the truth. They are so full of Fox Misinformation that they are spinning in ignorant bliss.

                • 8 votes
                #4.12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:39 PM EDT

                @Chris: You must not read the treasury reports. He bailed out the banks, by owning shares of them, and now the treasury is making a profit off of them in order to offset the losses of the auto manufacturing bailout. Try again. Besides, China? How about WORLD ECONOMY...it's been known to exist since NAFTA.

                  #4.13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:44 PM EDT

                  Umm, chris, you need to restudy facts rather than regurgitating Media Matters. The wars were on the books, he went before congress to get appropriation money for the wars. Do you think there's a special little box where presidents go for their war money? Oh, wait, it's called Social Security and the one who dug into that little box was none other than a democrat by the name of Johnson.

                  • 1 vote
                  #4.14 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:12 PM EDT

                  Romney or Obama, If it isn't Ron Paul, A new revolution will kick into high gear. Remember how our founding fathers fought the British over taxation without representation? It wasn't that long ago. Many settlers at that time sided with the king, much like liberals siding with Big Government, and the free Americans still won! It will happen again. Either in a peaceful manner by voting in the right person, or......

                  • 1 vote
                  #4.15 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:06 AM EDT

                  JJ-JOHNNYREB-looks like you're backing another loser. The south lost the war. Get your camos on and go pretend you will rise.

                  • 1 vote
                  #4.16 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:32 AM EDT
                  Reply

                  I have to think many of the NC job losses were the direct result of a certain Bank of America that is HQ'd there.

                  • 17 votes
                  Reply#5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:40 PM EDT

                  And all of the furniture manufacturers who have moved off-shore - probably bank off-shore, too. If it's good enough for Romney . . .

                  • 6 votes
                  #5.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:09 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  Obama has failed in almost every category as President:

                  Solyndra: F

                  Jobs: F

                  Race relations: F

                  Foreign affairs: F

                  Government corruption: F-

                  Healthcare: F

                  Vote ROMNEY , Save America 2012

                  • 17 votes
                  #6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:45 PM EDT

                  jsmithzzzzz has failed in almost every category as a commenter:

                  Staying on topic: F

                  Telling the truth: F

                  Providing proof: F

                  • 24 votes
                  #6.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

                  I have to chuckle at your innocence and ignorance...

                  Solyndra: F

                  Ok, point?

                  Jobs: F

                  Really? Took over an economy LOSING 750,000 jobs a MONTH and now presiding over an economy CREATING 250,000 jobs a month, for a total turnaround of 1,000,000 jobs and you give an F...partisan blinders must be snug on you

                  Race relations: F

                  Again, if you are a partisan hack and view race from a Whites Only perspective, yes you would think so. However, if you actually knew what an American was and what freedom and diversity meant, Obama gets a B maybe B- because he still doesn't accept gays as equals

                  Race relations: F

                  Riiiight, ask Osama and Gaddafi and Egypt and Iraq how Obama's policies are doing...

                  Government corruption: F-

                  Based on what? Did I miss where he LIED to Americans to start TWO Wars of choice?

                  Healthcare: F

                  I agree, this was a republican based plan that gave too much to Insurance companies, thanks for pointing out Obama's need to negotiate and propose moderate plans like Romneycare.

                  Vote ROMNEY , Save America 2012

                  ...for rich white men, Romney 2012, save America for rich white men!

                  Silly teabaggers

                  • 33 votes
                  #6.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

                  @Jsmithzzzz,

                  If you hate someone because they are black it's not hard to give that person a failing grade on anything he/she does.

                  And of course you forgot your repuke boss of the 8 years prior to President Obama, you know bush wack the one who was on duty when the worse attack on American soil by terrorist in the United State History - Gave Paulson 790 Billion Dollars based on a 3 page memo - Gave 4.3 Trillon Dollars to the rich (2001 & 2003 tax cuts) - Gave the Pharmacy industry medicare part D - Went to war in Afgan - Started a war with a LIE Iraq - Turned a surplus of 2 Trillion in to a Record Deficit ---- On Top Of All That Sh!t IT WAS UN PAID FOR, which created the worse recession since the Great Depression 1930's.

                  Then you blame President Obama the very first day in office not because his policies were in full effect, because it is impossible to put his policies in effect the first day he is sworn in.

                  Now since President Obama could not fix the biggest mess in history the first week in office, you are against him. NO you are against him because you have the hatred of slave owner.

                  Vote for rich mitt and i hope your mother is on social security and medicare because mitt will get rid of it his first day in office. To bad your mother and family don't need those programs. You program drone.

                  • 20 votes
                  #6.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

                  It all comes down to racism...If the Prez were white many of these toothless, re-necked, nazi, a55holes would love the guy...

                  • 21 votes
                  #6.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:24 PM EDT
                  ssmithlgDeleted

                  If Corporate Raider Mitt Romney should ever become president, you will see the Elderly and Disabled thrown into the street...

                  "I am not the Benefits President... If you want someone who defends benefits, I am not your President," Said Mitt Romney.

                  In 2012 Vote President Obama, Save Grandma, Save our Disabled from monsters like Mitt Romney... Vote Obama... Do it now!!!

                  • 21 votes
                  #6.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:37 PM EDT

                  First President to defy a Federal Judge's court order to cease

                  Now to be fair that was Andrew Jackson

                  First President to say that America was not a Christian nation.

                  Its not

                  • 14 votes
                  #6.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:37 PM EDT

                  jsmithzzzzz----you are so right. NO MORE OBAMA.......

                  • 3 votes
                  #6.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

                  To all the silly right wingers on this site - your ignorance and backwardness is showing. We have a great President. He will be re-elected in November so get used to it.

                  When the GOP doesn't have to resort to dumpster diving for their candidates they might stand a chance. But, not with Mitt - no way!

                  Obama/Biden 2012

                  • 18 votes
                  #6.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:13 PM EDT

                  These silly right wingers don't have brains God gave a peanut butter sandwich.

                  • 11 votes
                  #6.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:20 PM EDT

                  ssmithlg: first poster to list every whacked out right-wing conspiracy tale in existence!

                  Obama isn't the first President to have vacations, both Bush jr. and Reagan managed to outdo him in taking time off.

                  Obama didn't "order a cut in credit ratings", he doesn't control that. It was the credit rating agencies that cut the credit rating, because the Teapublicans were threatening to refuse to pay the bills, and that usually does drive credit ratings down. Silly Teapublicans, always trying to blame others for what they've done.

                  First President to say that America was not a Christian nation.

                  Actually, that was George Washington, in negotiating the Treaty of Tripoli, which the Senate approved and President John Adams signed. That treaty stated "the Government of the United States is in no wise founded on the Christian Religion". We really are not a "Christian nation", there is no mention of God or Jesus anywhere in the Constitution or it's amendments, no scriptural references, either. We are a nation of Religious Freedom, and Christianity is strong here precisely because it is NOT the official religion and is NOT propped up by the Government and must stand on it's own merits.

                  You want to make Christianity fat, lazy and weak? Just make it the official religion. See Church of England for example.

                  • 16 votes
                  #6.11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:20 PM EDT

                  If Romney is elected the stench from the bodies piling up will be unbearable. Senior citizens and the disabled will be out in the streets.

                  • 9 votes
                  #6.12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:21 PM EDT

                  Bill, Rog, We & Solutions, with an "impressive" list of accomplishments like this, Romney Can't Lose!

                  Enough with the @!$%#ing comment spamming!

                  Even worse - you do not attribute the source, then again I wouldn't either when it comes from a chain e-mail!

                  You violating (2) COH rules!

                  • 9 votes
                  #6.13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:27 PM EDT

                  SSSmith, you forgot First President?, to attempt throwing the 1st and 2nd Amendments into the round file.

                  IMPEACH OBAMA IN 2012, signed an independent who thinks all politicians stink, I'm voting for Snoopy

                  • 2 votes
                  #6.14 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

                  LOL this coming from someone who apparently supports ObummerCare... LOL

                  • 1 vote
                  #6.15 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:29 PM EDT

                  Paul w-You support mr. "corporations are people, my friend" and a member of a religious cult. It's O.K. to be a serial Tax dodger? What a choice.

                  • 8 votes
                  #6.16 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:43 PM EDT
                  Comment author avatartonybeeermExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  Paul w-You support mr. "corporations are people, my friend" and a member of a religious cult.

                  No he supports anyone against that Muslim, commie ni--er in the White House. Doesn't matter if they lead him off a cliff. Get your priorities straight.

                  • 4 votes
                  #6.17 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:08 PM EDT

                  These silly right wingers don't have brains God gave a peanut butter sandwich.

                  I know, this is getting hard to handle. They're really getting some stupid ones as of late. Most of them can't spell better than a second grade elementary student. If I was a Republican running for office, I would be embarrassed to have to shake their hands, kiss their babies and beg for their votes. It won't bother Mitt Romney though.

                  • 4 votes
                  #6.18 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:14 PM EDT

                  I think we should be civil and we can all agree that Obama Bin Laden needs to go so we can save this country from his destruction policies. Once we all understand that, and stop relying upon the government handouts, we may be in a position to grow this country back to prosperity. One only needs to look at the EPA rules being imposed on natural gas development to evidence the no-growth, anti-growth of the OBL administration.

                  Anybody but OBL 2012!

                  • 2 votes
                  #6.19 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:15 PM EDT

                  I wonder if obumbo will blame Romney when he loses the election??

                  • 2 votes
                  #6.20 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:19 PM EDT

                  Dream on occupants of the Fox bubble.

                  • 11 votes
                  #6.21 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:44 PM EDT

                  Joe Keg Pack, republicans like Romney have much more in common with Osama Bin Laden than Obama does. Mormons are down with the whole multiple wives thing and keeping women in their place. People like you and Romney couldn't give a sh** what women think. Even though women comprise 52% of the electorate, Romney had to ask his pampered poodle of a wife what is important to women. Shouldn't someone who was running for president already know what is important to women? The only way you wouldn't know is if YOU DIDN'T CARE!!!

                  Any jerk like you who votes against women's interests should be boycotted by women. Perhaps you are angry for that very reason. I know I would not save a republican man if he were drowning, let alone have sex with him. Republicans are women haters and join cults in order to control women, just like Middle Eastern men. Republicans are also warmongers, which OBL would approve of.

                  My beloved president Barack Hussein Obama is none of these things. You can see it on the faces of his beautiful wife and daughters. Bush's daughters, on the other hand are as retarded as he is.

                  Put down the beer and take a look in the mirror, Joe Keg Pack. I bet you are ugly, inside and out and that is why your values are similar to a backwards society. I bet you have to rape a woman in order to get anything from her, don't you?

                  • 1 vote
                  #6.22 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:11 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  So all of the bad that may happen to the economy is Obama's fault but none of the good could be because of him? Give me a break.

                  • 33 votes
                  Reply#7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

                  It's so sad that republicans can not tell lies from the truth. Narcissists only believe what they want to.

                  • 8 votes
                  #7.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:23 PM EDT

                  Tell me, since you think Obummer is so great, what did he mean when he told the Russian president "I'll have more flexibilty after the election". More flexibility to do WHAT?? Why was he wispering it to the Russian presdident? What the hell does Obummer have in store for us?

                  • 3 votes
                  #7.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:50 PM EDT

                  Oh my god Sharriannie you figured it out! It's a big secret all of us liberals had, and you figured it out!!! oh my god.. everyone.. plan B... plan B.

                  President Obama was going to surrender to Russia, dive The US into a communist-Socialist-Nazi-Facist organization where all white people were used as road signs and all children were shot on-site.

                  but man.. you figured it out!!

                  what are we going to do NOW?

                  WTF do you THINK he was talking about!? EVERY SINGLE president has more flexibility on his second term... more flexibility to negotiate, more flexibility to sign treaties.

                  But please, lay out for us in your infinite wisdom and experience your expertise on foreign relations.. i'm sure your knowledge is tip-top on the subject.

                  sharriannie-

                  Tell me, since you think Obummer is so great, what did he mean when he told the Russian president "I'll have more flexibilty after the election". More flexibility to do WHAT?? Why was he wispering it to the Russian presdident? What the hell does Obummer have in store for us?

                  • 7 votes
                  #7.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:22 PM EDT

                  You don't have to say WTF to me, I don't even want to respond to you...you have NO CLASS talking like that, no wonder you're an OBUMMER FAN. How do you like Obummer putting us 2 trillion in debt this past year, good job, OBUMMER

                  See you at the voting poll.

                  Romney 2012

                  • 2 votes
                  #7.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:30 PM EDT

                  psst- sharriannie... If you don't want to respond, then why are you doing so?

                  Do you think that people who indulge in silly, grade-school name-calling have a lot of class?

                  Obama 2012. Keep moving America forward.

                  • 17 votes
                  #7.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:38 PM EDT

                  Pedestrian

                  See you at the voting poll.

                  Romney 2012.

                    #7.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:51 PM EDT

                    Typical GOP-TEA double standard we have all come to dispise

                    ...but take heart sharriannie; the RNC/TEA people will be soooo proud of you for holding the line and spouting their talking points verbatim!

                    • 7 votes
                    #7.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:35 PM EDT

                    sharriannie - somehow I get the feeling you aren't old enough to vote yet. Did daddy put you up to this? Come on now, tell the truth.

                    • 8 votes
                    #7.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:53 PM EDT

                    @sharriannie, don't forget to wear your burqua when you go to the polls.

                    • 2 votes
                    #7.9 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:17 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Poor Willard, it rained on his own lattempt at "optics." He ridicules Obama's columns, which were pretty funny, I admit, then wants to use an empty stadium for his own backdrop. Come to think of it, that would be pretty appropriate, given the empty room he'll be giving his concession speech in.

                    • 20 votes
                    Reply#8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

                    Hey - is that the same room all of the people that supported Obama's budget hang out in Amy?

                    Wait I know - it's the room where all the people who got them 'shovel ready' jobs hang out in.

                    No, wait - it's the room where all those savings from the Health care law are being kept.

                    Where all the Solyndra panels are housed?

                    • 10 votes
                    #8.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

                    No its the room WMD's were in...

                    No, maybe the room the Jobs created by tax cuts for rich people are in?

                    No, maybe the room all the women who support government mandated vaginal ultrasounds are in?

                    No wait, its where all the minorities that support the GOP are, all 3 of them.

                    • 26 votes
                    #8.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

                    Naaa, it's the room with all the people that think the country is on the right track.

                    Or maybe the room with people who would walk over hot coals for Obama [right Amy?].

                    • 6 votes
                    #8.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

                    Think we might see that empty stadium again this Fall in a few Obama commercials? Mitt has provided so much material, the campaign crew is going to have a real hard time selecting among the treasure trove.

                    Corporations are people will go down in history as the stupidest comment any candidate every made.

                    • 16 votes
                    #8.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:16 PM EDT

                    Spanky - you STILL don't have a darned thing to say. You make no sense and have no points - or candidates for that matter.

                    Obama/Biden 2012

                    • 9 votes
                    #8.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:19 PM EDT

                    I can see why you are Seeking Sanity, you need it badly

                    • 2 votes
                    #8.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:31 PM EDT

                    Well Spanky, I think the nation is on the wrong track because of all the whacked out right wing BS that we're being hit will all over the place. Not because of most of the things that President Obama has done.

                    • 9 votes
                    #8.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:36 PM EDT

                    Romney strikes me as a desperate "CRACKER" . America see's him and his wife for who they really are total scumbags ! Even the evangelical's think he is a deranged cult member !

                    • 11 votes
                    #8.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:01 PM EDT

                    Spanky - you STILL don't have a darned thing to say.

                    Typical rwnj Rovian troll. Gets coupons to Costco and Walmart every month as payment for spending the entire day doing this. The guy has probably never had a job and lives in his mother's basement. The only real goal is to distract from the real issues on which the Republicans have no solutions. Doesn't take Einstein to figure that one out.

                    • 6 votes
                    #8.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:58 PM EDT

                    anyone notice- the death of Dick Clark- is all over the networks- mitt will be lucky to make the 10pm news or John Stewart/Stephen Colbert

                    no one is bored enough to listen to mitt!

                    • 2 votes
                    #8.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:36 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Boy. The liberals are really going to hate Mitt now. They hate facts.

                    • 10 votes
                    Reply#9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

                    Nice try, Liberals LOVE facts, that's why we hate Flip Romney.

                    • 21 votes
                    #9.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

                    Good point.

                    Unlike Obama - I ate dogs before I liked dogs.

                    Yeah, Obama is anything but a flip floppers.

                    Another libby meme, another fail.

                    Keep running up that hill gang.

                    • 4 votes
                    #9.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:07 PM EDT

                    I ate dogs before I liked dogs.

                    Spanky - If the GOP and big business get their way, we'll all be eatin' "Hoover hogs " before long......

                    Obama/Biden 2012

                    • 15 votes
                    #9.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

                    I'll take Flip Romney over Flop Obama.

                    • 7 votes
                    #9.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

                    No way GT - Obama's got the whole thing licked.

                    The buffett rule will save the day.

                    Wait, never mind.

                    • 3 votes
                    #9.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:53 PM EDT

                    The buffett rule will save the day.

                    Spanky - "Licked", "Buffett", LOL Thats pretty good.

                    However, speaking of food, Ole "Cheesy Grits" is goin' down hard, and there's nothing he can do about it. So "Chew" on that awhile. Or better yet, you can stick a "Fork" in him, he's done.

                    Obama/Biden - 2012

                    • 13 votes
                    #9.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:59 PM EDT

                    I wonder GT - when Obama dined on fido, did he use a fork?

                    Going down hard? What we talking about the Secret Service again?

                    Psst - the polls are as close as can be. Who exactly is going down on whom?

                    • 5 votes
                    #9.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:20 PM EDT

                    navy vet-the facts include a serial tax dodger; a draft dodger who used his church mission to hide out in a mansion in Paris; a moderate-turned liberal-turned conservative rubber band man; "corporations are people, my friend"-that statement is his only consistent position. He is only a millionaire but he is definitely the tool of the corporations and billionaires. Beware what you wish for-the Ryan budget will take away the government programs even conservatives depend on.

                    • 6 votes
                    #9.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:51 PM EDT

                    Spanky-

                    I wonder GT - when Obama dined on fido, did he use a fork?

                    Hey Spanky... This is YOUR story (again, without legitimate sources/authorities as we have come to expect from you) so YOU tell US: did he use a fork?

                    go ahead.... keep making it up as you go.

                    • 3 votes
                    #9.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:42 PM EDT

                    Its the same fork they'll be poking in
                    Mittens too see if he's done....

                    • 3 votes
                    #9.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:04 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Obama wants to pass "Buffett Rule"?????? LOL

                    Why is Obama punishing success in America???? Romney is successful, who wants to be in the 99% category??? To be Sucessful in America is a goal for our nation

                    Obama wants us to be on Welfare, collect unemployment, get free food stamps, why go to school at all? Just let Uncle Sam pay you!

                    • 8 votes
                    Reply#10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:48 PM EDT

                    Obama wants us to be on welfare? How can anyone (even you, jsmithzzzzz) believe that?

                    • 17 votes
                    #10.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:58 PM EDT

                    You're a LYING IDIOT

                    • 9 votes
                    #10.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:58 PM EDT

                    Honestly, you really think anyone who has made millions from two best-selling books wants to "punish success"? Well, apparently, some will believe anything Fox News says, no matter how ridiculous.

                    Well, maybe you consider it "punishment" to merely have to pay a fair share of the taxes? Or maybe you consider it "punishment" to promote policies that don't favor the wealthiest over everyone else?

                    • 7 votes
                    #10.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:30 PM EDT

                    I wanna be on welfare. I paid my taxes a few years ago. Time to take a break get my money back.

                    • 1 vote
                    #10.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:19 PM EDT

                    jsmithzzzzz

                    I am with you on that one. If everyone is on welfare, they will be easier to control.

                    Do do know what I find interesting on this site, if the Obummer fans disagree with you, they name call and use fowl language. What's up with that?

                    • 2 votes
                    #10.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:36 PM EDT

                    sharriannie-

                    You don't have to say WTF to me, I don't even want to respond to you...you have NO CLASS talking like that

                    What the hell does Obummer have in store for us?

                    the Obummer fans disagree with you, they name call and use fowl language. What's up with that?

                    My points about GOP/TEA double standards and being out of touch: nicely proven. Thank you sharriannie.

                    • 5 votes
                    #10.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:49 PM EDT

                    sharriannie-

                    Do do know what I find interesting on this site, if the Obummer fans disagree with you, they name call and use fowl language. What's up with that?

                    Honestly, I try to overlook the name-calling and ridiculously improper use of the English language but I gotta' say "fowl language" is so funny I had to post!!! Cluck, cluck, cluck!!!

                    • 3 votes
                    #10.7 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:26 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    I can't wait foir the presidential debates. Do you think Mitt will debate the President Obama in ay place other than FoxNews? Mitt Romney is toast because he has no policy to run on that is acceptable to more than 35% of Americans. When Mitt is forced to stop the opponent bashing and speak of his potential policy ideology he falls on his face. We need to occupy the election to ensure that the 1%ers are not going to further their take over of our democracy.

                    • 15 votes
                    Reply#11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:51 PM EDT
                    Comment author avatarjsmithzzzzzExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    Stop collecting welfare checks you loser! Get a job! Why dont you occupy a library and read some books so you dont have to waste time protesting and learn instead.

                    • 6 votes
                    #11.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:52 PM EDT

                    your earlier post is a bunch of propoganda concerning the Presidents report card.Try to research the stuff about the first president to do all of those things and you will tell its a lie. Someone sent that crap to my office asking was it true.

                    • 3 votes
                    #11.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

                    Well, he has made one clear policy decision - Rep. Ryan's budget bill - the one that reduces taxes, cuts food stamps and programs for infant children, privatizes Medicare and Medicaid, moves programs to the states without funding, etc. - according to Mitt is "marvelous"!

                    • 6 votes
                    #11.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:20 PM EDT

                    jsmithzzzzz - I'm always amazed that the midget minds of the far right always attempt the welfare stupidity. Most of us supporting President Obama work - and make a pretty damned good salary. What now? Your are soooooo ignorant and pitiable!

                    • 3 votes
                    #11.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:21 PM EDT

                    Tim, lying with a question is a very old, tried and true way to defame someone. For example, isn't it true that I saw you drive right through a traffic signal yesterday?

                    (No mention that the traffic light was green at the time.)

                    • 1 vote
                    #11.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:22 PM EDT

                    Since when does democracy include a tyrant dictator that wants to throw out the 1st and 2nd amendments of the U.S. Constitution??

                    proud to be an independent with no party ties to make me make stupid choices just because I belong to one.........

                    • 1 vote
                    #11.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:37 PM EDT

                    How about this-tyrant dictator is redundant. Your whole post reveals your inability to discern facts or logic. No one is trying to throw out any amendments but you probably listen to beck and savage/weiner. Tinfoil hats and black helicopters.

                    • 2 votes
                    #11.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:55 PM EDT

                    What is the president's real name? I keep calling him Obama bin Laden. His his first name Obama or his last name?

                      #11.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:21 PM EDT

                      How about this?

                      Since when does democracy include a tyrant dictator that wants to throw out the 1st and 2nd amendments of the U.S. Constitution??

                      ...along with most of the rest as well? The answer would be since 2001, the manner in which Dubya and Dead-Eyed Dick Cheney ran this nation.

                      Remember?

                      Well, we voter do - no matter how hard you RWNJ's try to distance yourselves from the facts now.

                      • 5 votes
                      #11.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:55 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      For you Obama lovers:

                      Do you really want to collect perpetual unemployment checks, welfare??, food stamps forever?

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

                      After the FAILED POLICIES of the Bush Administration TANKED the Economy, what do you expect People to do, STARVE?

                      • 12 votes
                      #12.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

                      Never collected anything like that in my life. Got a good job right out of college, worked for everything. Do you Republicans really want to be stupid, no nothing twits like you all your lives?

                      • 11 votes
                      #12.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

                      bose301s:

                      Some people (like jsmithzzzzz) don't want to be stupid; unfortunately, they have no choice.

                      • 11 votes
                      #12.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:00 PM EDT

                      Bose,

                      Though I detest spell police, your point about Republican's (such as myself) as "no nothing twits" is either writing in senseless double negative or a spelling error and hence an intention for "know nothing." Sooooo, as one college graduate to another writer touting to be the same...which is it? Never mind, I realize your college education may have been wasted.

                      • 4 votes
                      #12.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

                      The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.

                      • 1 vote
                      #12.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:24 PM EDT

                      jizzzzsmith-Obama supporters like Buffet and Gates-welfare; government checks or food stamps? Are you revealing something you're ashamed of from your past?

                      • 1 vote
                      #12.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:57 PM EDT

                      Who is going to pay for the welfare checks? I have been paying for 30 years, but now I am ready to get some back.

                        #12.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:24 PM EDT

                        Jizzzsmith is just sad because another one of he Conservative Republican buddies got busted for pedophilia...

                        A new one gets busted everyday.

                        It's all about deflection.

                        Their leaders are wife beaters and drug addicts (Rush Limbaugh), Pedophiles (thousands of priests, and Ted Nugent), and complete cowards to @!$%# themselves and don't bathe for months to dodge the draft (Ted Nugent).

                        These are the guys they worship!

                        tip-top, them!

                        jsmithzzzzz

                        For you Obama lovers:

                        Do you really want to collect perpetual unemployment checks, welfare??, food stamps forever?

                        • 2 votes
                        #12.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:25 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        I've NEVER seen a person lie as much as Romney. This Vulture Capitalist wants to ELIMINATE the middle class and allow His Corporate Masters to pay us 3 dollars an hour, no benefits or rights(take it or leave it). Anyone that makes less that 250,000 per year and vote for ANY GOP/Teabagger truely needs their heads examined.

                        • 16 votes
                        Reply#13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

                        You think no one lies more than Romney ??...What about Reagan, Nixon, Cheney, both Bushes, Gingrich, Boehner, Ryan, Cantor, the whole bunch at Fox news, etc, etc ???...Romney's not that good yet...but he's gettin' better...

                        • 13 votes
                        #13.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:31 PM EDT

                        Obama is the king of the liars

                        • 5 votes
                        #13.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:45 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        So let me get this straight - the state of the economy (which was already tanking when President Obama took office) is all his fault, but he gets no credit when it turns around (as it already shows some signs of doing).

                        So, Governor Romney, who does get the credit? The Republican party, who has deep-sixed almost every measure the President has put forth (despite running on "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs")? You, for the wonderfully detailed plan you have offered to rebuild the economy?

                        What's that? You haven't offered any details on how you would rebuild the economy? Sorry, my mistake...I won't be making a similar mistake in November.

                        • 18 votes
                        Reply#14 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

                        Bill in Portland

                        So let me get this straight - the state of the economy (which was already tanking when President Obama took office) is all his fault, but he gets no credit when it turns around (as it already shows some signs of doing).

                        HA HA...what are your 'signs' there Bill? Can you shoot some good numbers out? Also, unfortunately, nobody that has watched Obama fail every election promise is holding their breath for a recovery before he leaves....that is at least until it's been established that 'Mittens' is going to show him the door!

                          #14.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

                          Sure ain't housing starts, durable good orders, or Volt sales.

                          Say, just how is the old GDP growth coming along?

                          • 2 votes
                          #14.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:08 PM EDT

                          Signs? Numbers? Here's a few for you:

                          President Barack Obama presides over an economy that eluded the threat of a double-dip recession in mid-2011 and now is strengthening, with growth accelerating in the fourth quarter to a 2.8 percent rate, the fastest in 18 months, from 1.8 percent the previous quarter.

                          http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-30/obama-economy-recovery-from-bush-collapse-proves-no-morning-in-america-yet.html

                          • The NABE Outlook Panel of 45 forecasters continues to predict moderate real GDP growth through 2012. Economists expect the economy to grow 2.4 percent in 2012, with GDP growth slightly stronger in the second half of the year than in the first.
                          • Employment growth brightens. Panelists increased their anticipated average monthly job change to 170,000 in 2012, which would result in an average annual unemployment rate of 8.3 percent. NABE forecasters expect stronger job growth in 2013 with the unemployment rate falling an additional half percentage point to 7.8 percent.
                          • Consumer spending to remain subdued. Even with higher employment forecasts, real consumer spending is forecast to increase only 2.1 percent this year and 2.3 percent in 2013. This rate remains below the historical norm of 2.8 percent and is consistent with a positive but below-trend recovery. Light vehicle sales are anticipated to grow at a solid pace of 14 million units this year and 14.6 million units in 2013, up from 12.7 million units in 2011.
                          • Housing starts are expected to increase 19 percent in 2012. The economists surveyed expect housing starts to reach 700,000 units in 2012, up from 610,000 in 2011 and an upward revision from the November forecast. The forecast for 2013 shows continued improvement, with housing starts reaching 850,000 units. Correspondingly, real residential investment is forecast to increase 6.6 percent in 2012, slightly higher than the 4.3 percent predicted in November, and then strengthen further, rising 10 percent in 2013. The projection for home prices in 2012 was lowered slightly from a projected increase in the FHFA index of 0.9 percent (Q4/Q4) in the November survey to home prices remaining unchanged in the February survey. In 2013 home prices are expected to increase slightly more than 2 percent.
                          • Panelists continue to forecast strong business spending growth.

                          http://www.nabe.com/publib/macsum.html

                          National economic indicators suggest that the economic recovery, though still very slow, may be picking up speed. The national unemployment rate in February held steady at 8.3 percent. For the third consecutive month the economy gained more than 200,000 jobs in February; the last time the nation saw three straight months of jobs gains of this magnitude was in 2006. During the last quarter of 2011, inflation-adjusted GDP grew at an annual rate of 3 percent, well above its growth rates for the previous three quarters of the year.

                          http://www.brookings.edu/reports/2011/0622_metro_monitor.aspx

                          Go ahead and post all you want from the nay-sayers. Can you seriously disregard the opinions of Bloomberg, NABE, and the Brookings Institution?

                          How about this, from a source I'm sure you drool over:

                          Everything that's supposed to happen in politics this year, and everything that has happened for the last several months, has been premised on the tacit, but seemingly safe assumption: The economy will remain weak for years.

                          This has underlined Congressional jobs bill theatrics, campaign rhetoric about Obama's record, debates about who's to blame for high unemployment, and which party best represents the interests of the middle class.

                          But what if that assumption is wrong?

                          A contrarian school of thought holds that it is wrong — and its proponents have a growing cache of evidence to back them up.

                          http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/morning-in-america-the-rapid-economic-recovery-conservatives-are-praying-against.php

                          How about Gov. Romney's message that assigns all the blame and none of the credit to President Obama? Care to address that?

                          Even Forbes magazine admits that the recession started before the President took office:

                          The recession started in December, 2007. Go to the website of the National Bureau of Economic Research (www.nber.org) to see the complete history of America's recessions. What that history reveals is that before this last recession, since the Great Depression recessions in America have lasted an average of 10 months, with the longest previously lasting 16 months.

                          http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/01/12/the-worst-economic-recovery-since-the-great-depression/

                          And yes, I realize that Forbes uses the term "worst recovery since the the Great Depression". I'm not afraid to post items that may counter my point.

                          But note that Forbes does refer to it as a recovery...

                          • 8 votes
                          #14.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:28 PM EDT

                          I see the same uber left names on these threads,day after day,defending a failed president. 6.5 trillion dollars spent,3.5 years in office,two of which he had total control over Congress!Effective unemployment rate of 14%.No, JOBS,NO JOBS! Where are the JOBS he promised during his campaign 3.5 years ago.He usurped the bankruptcy laws of the United States to give 40% of GM to big unions at the expense of the bond holders,most of which were not big money.Most were retirees who lost most or all of thier money so big unions could keep their bloated salaries and benefits and maintain their status quo! This is the third time GM has had to be bailed out.Given the way the union pigs feed from their trough,it will not be the last time!

                          BURY BERRIE-2012! Vote for your country for a change!

                          • 2 votes
                          #14.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

                          justoneguy-the biggest promise of all that bush couldn't keep - Osama Bin Laden is dead.

                          • 5 votes
                          #14.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:01 PM EDT

                          Hey Spanky, Volt sales are up, 2,289 in March.

                          http://green.autoblog.com/2012/04/03/march-record-high-chevy-volt-sales-nissan-leaf/

                          And in case you missed it, even Fox news has changed it's tune on the Volt:

                          http://green.autoblog.com/2012/03/26/fox-news-finds-some-love-for-the-chevy-volt/

                          The plug-in revolution has started, the future of driving is electric.

                          • 5 votes
                          #14.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:33 PM EDT

                          Bill,

                          The 2012 presidential election will boil down to who wins three of four states, Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Virginia. The national economy is comprised of the state economies comprised of all of their local economies.

                          The economies in those four states are bad, really bad. Florida and NC are horrible with Ohio and PA just bad. I live in Florida and make a living providing professional services to the finance industry. It is bad here. I mean terrible. Keep track of how those four states are doing economically and you will know how Obama will do in November.

                          • 1 vote
                          #14.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:39 PM EDT

                          So, you mean the former President will write books and give motivational speeches, and perhaps build a Habitat for Humanity house or two. Sounds like a good move for the health of the country. As long as he pays his taxes.

                          • 2 votes
                          #14.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:55 PM EDT

                          CM-6969

                          Hey Spanky, Volt sales are up, 2,289 in March.

                          http://green.autoblog.com/2012/04/03/march-record-high-chevy-volt-sales-nissan-leaf/

                          And in case you missed it, even Fox news has changed it's tune on the Volt:

                          http://green.autoblog.com/2012/03/26/fox-news-finds-some-love-for-the-chevy-volt/

                          The plug-in revolution has started, the future of driving is electric.

                          Just one problem. The payback period for most "green" technology is not yet financially feasible. The Volt has a break even payback of 14 years, according to Edmunds.com. Some put the payback as as high as 27 years. The problem is Chevys don't last 26 or 14 years. We're not there yet. Remember the Honda Insight from the 1990's? Neither does anyone else.

                          http://www.edmunds.com/industry-center/analysis/will-higher-gas-prices-boost-hybrid-ev-sales.html

                          • 2 votes
                          #14.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:13 PM EDT

                          Where are the jobs that the republicians & teabaggers platform ran on in the 2010 election? Oh,darn I thought they meant creating them, but they actually meant getting rid of them. Who needs teachers, police or firefighter.

                          • 7 votes
                          #14.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:16 PM EDT

                          m54..what are you talking about? Obama says everything is wonderful, remember? Laser focused on the economy? Saved or created 2 million jobs? Remember?

                          Please don't make me post a link to the 20+ bills the House passed that Harry Reid's Senate killed, all designed to create jobs.

                          • 1 vote
                          #14.11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:22 PM EDT

                          FLASH john numbers:

                          "Reid's Senate" didn't "kill" job bills... McConnell's caucus of Republicans FILLIBUSTERED them all and refused to allow debate on them. (Remember how he bragged about holding America hostage to get his way?)

                          Please attempt to state facts in lieu of RNC-TEA talking points if at all possible.

                          Thanks.

                          • 3 votes
                          #14.12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:05 PM EDT
                          Reply

                          Hmm, so if unemployment is above 8%, it *will* be because of Obama's policies, but if it's below 8%, it *won't* be because of his policies? Kind of hard to follow that logic, isn't it?

                          • 12 votes
                          Reply#15 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

                          It went up form Bushs' 6.5% unemployment to 9.5% after he took office!The effective unemployment rate today is around 14%.That includes those who remain looking for a job and those who have quit lookng for a job and those who no longer qualify for umemployment checks!I don't think we have to worry about a sub 8% unemployment rate!

                          • 1 vote
                          #15.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:12 PM EDT

                          The month before Obama took office, still under the Bush Administration, America lost 700,000 jobs. Nearly three quarters of a million jobs - gone. Pretty tough way for Obama to get acquainted with the Oval Office, don't you think? Then there was the whole GM collapse threat together with all of GM's contract suppliers located all over the United States. Romney approved of the Wall Street bailouts, but not GM - which is back on its feet again and hiring. Not to mention the waste and ineffectiveness in creating jobs that the Bush TARP plan gave us. Remarkably, though most if not all of the TARP money has been repaid, but no jobs just huge bonuses for the execs at the businesses 'too big to fail'.

                          • 7 votes
                          #15.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:31 PM EDT

                          America lost 700,000 jobs

                          Actually, it was 750,000 a MONTH!

                          • 5 votes
                          #15.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:39 PM EDT

                          The rate of job loss is significant - that peaked at the end of the Bush administration, and that rate of job loss dropped after Obama took office, eventually reversing into job gains. That created the famous "Bikini Graph" that Teapublicans hate so much.

                          But that took time, so of course unemployment peaked after Obama took office, it's simple math. The important thing is that we're now getting job gains and unemployment is declining, and I'm not talking about those going off of unemployment rolls, I'm talking of more jobs created than lost.

                          • 3 votes
                          #15.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:12 PM EDT

                          The rate of job loss is significant - that peaked at the end of the Bush administration, and that rate of job loss dropped after Obama took office, eventually reversing into job gains.

                          Hey Feisty, are you going to as CM for a source? Well let me give you actual Bureau of Labor Statistics facts. There were job losses in the first 13 months of President Obama term that amounted to 4.2M. You and CM want to ignore that there were job losses in the first three months of the Obama Administration of 725,000, 787,000, and 802,000. The eventually reversing into job jains that CM referred to means that is talking about the last 25 months that still have not recovered the job losses of his first 13 months!!!

                            #15.5 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:05 AM EDT

                            Exactly. The first year of the Obama administration were when Bush's budget and policies were still in effect. It took time for President Obama's policies to become enacted, and even longer for their effects to be felt. How is the economic data beginning about one year into his administration?

                            That would be a more accurate representation of this administration.

                              #15.6 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:41 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              try -- then you have not been paying attention for the last several years. President Obama has told so many lies that many of us just push the mute button when he starts talking.

                              I realize that this truth is difficult for many Obamatons and Obamapoligists to accept, but sometimes the truth hurts.

                              • 2 votes
                              Reply#16 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

                              OMG, change the channel. How can you watch drivel without hearing it. Don't bother listening to it though.

                              • 2 votes
                              #16.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:52 PM EDT

                              Please give actual examples.

                              • 2 votes
                              #16.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:24 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              Obama will lose big in North Carolina and Virginia, no question.

                              Which means...Obama better start packing.

                              • 6 votes
                              Reply#17 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

                              Like winning North Carolina or Virginia will matter to a dem! I dont even know why they would campaign there.....

                              • 3 votes
                              #17.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

                              Not if the smarter ones of you get out to vote...

                              • 3 votes
                              #17.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:34 PM EDT

                              If Robme becomes President he will declare himself a King !!!!!!!!!!!!!

                              • 3 votes
                              #17.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:35 PM EDT

                              Bob in Virginia-Romney is losing the women's vote by 20%-the African American vote by 95%-the Hispanic vote by 75%. States like Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, Texas, Pennsylvania, Florida, Wisconsin ect., ect., the list is too long to speculate. You can't be elected by white elitists and red necks only. It's a math problem.

                              • 3 votes
                              #17.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:06 PM EDT

                              Bob in Virginia-5210392
                              Obama will lose big in North Carolina and Virginia, no question.

                              Which means...Obama better start packing.

                              Bob, Obama will struggle in Florida. Florida and NC both have unemployment rates nearly 10% and no mass transit to mitigate Obama's $4 gasoline.

                              • 2 votes
                              #17.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:50 PM EDT

                              I believe Obama won Virginia AND North Carolina in 2008, defeating our mama grizzly, Sarah. Mitt will be a piece of cake compared to Sarah and GI John.

                              Question for our Obama haters: How did Obama cause the economic collapse in 2008, when he became President in 2009? No one can stop him. He is a socialist transporter and mind-bender!

                              Oh, I forgot. He is still Black. My bad.

                              • 5 votes
                              #17.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:12 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              This president has got to go. He is destroying Americal and turning it into a government, authoritative, socialist state, where the only beneficiaries are himself, his cronies, and his not-so-secret serviced buddies.

                              • 4 votes
                              Reply#18 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

                              Joe, do you even know what a socialist state is?

                              • 11 votes
                              #18.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

                              I'm not sure what you are talking about? Socialist? Obama has leaned more right and governed more from the middle then Clinton and Carter.

                              • 10 votes
                              #18.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:35 PM EDT

                              What was you opinion of Bush's Patriot Act that all but eliminated habeas corpus? (You, so worried about losing your freedoms, do know what habeas corpus is, don't you?)

                              • 6 votes
                              #18.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:41 PM EDT

                              Yep, I know what socialist state is - "learnt it is scool". More regulation, more taking from those who have and giving it to those who don't - current state of affairs.

                              I wouldn't agree that Obama is more right than Clinton and/or Carter. Clinton was definitely more "right" IMHO.

                              I disagree with the Patriot Act, and I dislike the invasion of the TSA and the overreaching of the government in general, and yes I am concerned for the loss of freedoms, which freedoms seem to be slowly and methodically taken away by government at all levels, whether federal, state or local. Try to put an addition on your mansion; you cannot do it without jumping through the government hoops. And, yes, I am very familiar with habeas corpus. Thank you,

                                #18.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:31 PM EDT

                                Will Ferrell for President! What a great NASCAR driver!

                                  #18.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:47 PM EDT

                                  BTW, is Obama his first nameor last name? Or is it just "Obama" kind of like "Madonna" or "Oprah" ?

                                    #18.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:51 PM EDT

                                    No, Kegpack, "more regulation" is not "socialism". All governments, conservative or liberal, do regulations, it's one of the main functions of Government.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #18.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:28 PM EDT

                                    And these people are allowed to vote?

                                    Instead of the ID restrictions, I believe we'd be better off with a written test....

                                    jist sayin'

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #18.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:13 PM EDT

                                    ignorant voters have destroyed this country. Do your research and stopped believing everything the media feeds you. The end.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #18.9 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:43 PM EDT
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                                    Dearest bye-barac-alypse - Be sure to post the photos of the CROW your going to have for dinner on election night.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    Reply#19 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

                                    It would be refreshing were Romney spend 1/10th of the time he wastes attempting to make an un-provable case that Obama's policies have made things worse telling us what he proposes to make them BETTER. So far, I've heard nothing even moderately persuasive. Between applauding the Ryan budget and echoing tea party positions on immigration and dittoing Santorum's religiously fanatical views on women's health, Gov. Romney has found a few minutes to propose further reducing taxes (especially for the very wealthy) but has avoided telling us HOW that will fit in with the tea party's demands for an immediately balanced budget and all Republican's insistence than no military spending can be cut, but must be increased.

                                    Lets have some specific proposals, please. Then perhaps we can have an intelligent debate.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    Reply#20 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:07 PM EDT

                                    Well, he fully endorses Rep. Ryan's budget bill calling it "marvelous". This is the bill that reduces the top tax rate down to 25%, privatizes Medicare, disqualifies millions of families currently receiving food stamps and reduces how much help millions of others can get to feed their families, and moves other programs to the states but with no federal funding.

                                    Google Ryan Budget Bill for more of what these compassionate conservatives have in mind for the lower and middle class families of America.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #20.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:49 PM EDT

                                    Better Ryans budget then NO BUDGET at all. Obama has NOT PUT a budget in place . NOT ONE since elected. NO BUDGET means NO SPENDING CONTROLS. Or out of CONTROL SPENDING. GET IT.

                                      #20.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:58 PM EDT

                                      Berry

                                      Obama has proposed several budgets, but it is up to Congress to actually pass a budget. Thanks to Teaublican intransigence, none of the proposed budgets were passed, nor was any other budget passed. As for the Ryan proposal, the older and wiser Republicans quietly shelved it, recognizing how disastrous it would be to their party if they ever passed it.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #20.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:43 PM EDT

                                      It’s hard to think of a president that has been more of an Epic Failure than President Obama. Even Carter is glad this guy came along, so at least he knows he is no longer the worst president ever. Here is just a short list of Obama’s Failures:

                                      1. Hawaii is in Asia
                                      2. Passing on the keystone pipeline.
                                      3. Touts a Green Energy Company as exemplary that fails a year later.
                                      4. Using the Gulf Oil Spill to promote Green Energy – instead of cleaning it up.
                                      5. Thinking the Tea Party is a passing fad – or that they are racists.
                                      6. Pulling out of Iraq with no clear victory over insurgent forces.
                                      7. Trying to re-write history through speeches – with inaccurate information (i.e. Statue of Liberty)
                                      8. Getting a Nobel Prize for being the most ineffective President in the history of the United States, though some say it was for his pigment.
                                      9. Putting all legislation on the Internet for five days before it comes to a vote.
                                      10. Returning the bust of Churchill to the Brits.
                                      11. Giving a collection of DVDs to the British PM.
                                      12. Denying the notion of American Exceptionalism.
                                      13. Promising to close Gitmo — failing to do so.
                                      14. Securing the Olympics for Chicago in 2016.
                                      15. Naming numerous Communists/Socialists/Progressives to his various Czar positions and then watching them scurry for cover when Beck begins to call them out, forcing them to resign.
                                      16. Government races for NJ, VA and the Senate Seat in Mass.
                                      17. The midterm elections, which Obama himself called a shellacking.
                                      18. Prediction that stimulus would ensure that unemployment doesn’t exceed 8%.
                                      19. Bowing to just about everybody.
                                      20. Proposing amnesty for illegal aliens to increase the population of voters for Democrat elections.
                                      21. He said, I have visited 57 states. Now there is just 1 left to visit.
                                      22. Obama to Medvedev…give me space I will have more flexibility after my election.
                                      • 2 votes
                                      #20.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:08 PM EDT

                                      sssmithlg-you cite Beck and state that the tea party is not a passing fad? You can't hide your racism with lists.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #20.5 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:50 AM EDT
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                                      You North Carolina folks that are not bl a ck need to open your eyes and ears....that is unless you truly want to live in a third world soc ia li st country.....More for free, more food stamps, more welfare checks, more HUD rent reduced housing, more high end cards while on welfare.....more.....Do you love the Hope and Change!

                                      • 1 vote
                                      Reply#21 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

                                      I love Hope and Change a lot more then the pedophile drug addict leaders you worship!

                                      Limbaugh - drug addict
                                      1000's of preists - pedophiles
                                      Ted Nugent - absolute coward and and pedophile.

                                      These are who you worship! how can you sleep at night?

                                      • 6 votes
                                      #21.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:29 PM EDT

                                      Conservatives debate ISSUES,

                                      LIBIDIOTS gossip.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #21.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:10 PM EDT

                                      Debate the issue of the Romney/Ryan budget. Your taxes go up to pay for more corporate welfare and car elevators? Justify that.

                                        #21.3 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:52 AM EDT

                                        ssmithlg...

                                        Right wing extremists ARE the issue! The TeaGOP Congress AND Mitch McFilibuster should be charged with and tried for TREASON!

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #21.4 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:59 AM EDT
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                                        latest gallop poll puts it at about even and thats with a struggling romney. soon the republicans will unite and then romney's super pac will wage war. don't forget all those obama pre election utube videos. can't hide from all those lies and promises you never ever intended to keep.

                                          Reply#22 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

                                          Don't worry bones, you sound a little scared. The DNC has hours and hours of the ETCH-A SKETCH Robot Mittens. See you in November CLOWN.

                                          • 5 votes
                                          #22.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

                                          For crying out loud it's only April! Don't place your bets just yet, and remember that the Rasmussen poll had McCain ahead of Obama by 4% 72 hours before Election Day.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #22.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:52 PM EDT

                                          Bruce, McCain wasn't the incumbent president...... Barak is in TROUBLE!

                                            #22.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:12 PM EDT
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                                            All I see here is an tremendous amount of finger-pointing and an avarice (by everyone) to assign blame. WHAT I DON'T SEE is any solutions or strategies that would resolve the same problems about which everyone is busy quarreling. I have YET TO HEAR ROMNEY say ONE WORD about what he would do DIFFERENTLY. All that comes from his mouth is blame, but no solution. This is just the same old Republican, fingerpointing battlecry: blame the current president for EVERYTHING and offer NOTHING in return. Oh, and if a Republican IS elected and fails miserably, their battlecry will be that it's all the fault of the previous president. Ho hum....nodding off...

                                            • 5 votes
                                            Reply#23 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

                                            Well, Romney has come out with his full support of the Ryan budget bill that further reduces tax rates at the top end, and throws those people at the bottom end into the street. In fact, Romney called the bill "marvelous".

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #23.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:54 PM EDT

                                            ...the Ryan/ALEC budget!

                                              #23.2 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:06 AM EDT
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                                              Run Romney Run, You can win but you make us follow your bigotry:

                                              No you can't, I repeat you cannot, blame Congress, because Congress did not do anything for years and, and you just cannot blame Congress when there's no there, there to blame.

                                              American hates Obama, that has been our (republican) campaign all along, when we (republicans) trashed the economy is was to defeat Obama in favor of McCain, when we (republicans) pushed the TARP it was to defeat Obama, when we (republicans) fought the TARP it was to defeat Obama, when cut the stimulus it was to defeat Obama, when we (republicans) sought filibuster programs we (republicans) invented it was to defeat Obama. American must hate Obama, when we (republicans) stopped financial reform it was to defeat Obama, when we (republicans) cut taxes on the rich we (republicans) sought to embarrass Obama, when we (republicans) lied it was only to defeat Obama, when we (republicans) bought the Supreme Court it was to defeat Obama, when arranged for prostitutes it was to defeat Obama. We ((republicans) will not only defeat Obama, but we (republicans) will oppose even what we (republicans) propose, and we (republicans) will propose only what can be opposed, and in this we (republicans) will defeat Obama. After we (republicans) succeed we (republicans) will continue to hate Obama, and we (republicans) don't need to have any plans at all because after we (republicans) defeat Obama no one will remember what is was we (republicans) were trying to accomplish. As you go to the polls, remember your hate for Obama, and when we (republicans) win, you will hate Obama for losing. Now don't you feel better, like we (republicans) have had success and made American in to a fool's paradise?

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                                              Nothing Party - Do nothing, work for nothing, say nothing and be nothing because that what's you are worth, nothing.

                                              • 9 votes
                                              Reply#24 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

                                              In your dreams!!!!!

                                                #24.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:57 PM EDT
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                                                You get a nervous feeling that the presidency and White House to Romney is just another toy to buy.It's "his turn" ( as his wife just said ) to grab it as if it was another house or expensive car. Just another entitlement for the guy with no plans and no idea of what the presidency entails

                                                • 5 votes
                                                Reply#25 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

                                                Can't wait for the Debates, Mittens is losing sleep over that. One Foreign Policy question and Mittens is TOAST.

                                                • 8 votes
                                                #25.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

                                                Oh yes, let's not forget all of the debackles dear leader chairman obama has created from the military, debt, taxes, unconstitutional blunders, etc., etc., etc. This clown must go.

                                                Yes tryreality, obama's foreign policies are truly stellar - you know, the pictures, the prostitution ring - all signs of "lack of leadership"

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #25.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:36 PM EDT

                                                At least we didn't lose 2 world trade center buildings and 4,000 innocent Americans during President Obama's watch. We can't say that for the last publican fella that was in the White House.. now can we?

                                                all signs of "lack of leadership"

                                                  #25.4 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:01 AM EDT

                                                  pubby - 9/11 resulted in the fact that Clinton was offered Osama by Sudan and he declined. Clinton had a total of three times to capture Osama and was too busy getting a Lewinsky.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #25.5 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:04 PM EDT
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