Obama: 'I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth'

President Obama said he related to middle class Americans “looking for a chance,” as he highlighted his administration’s efforts to retrain unemployed workers for new jobs.

Accusing his Republican rivals of trying to revive trickle-down economics instead of spending money on priorities to help the middle class, President Obama says those Republicans "don't seem to remember how America was built."

"I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. Michelle wasn't, either," the president said to a crowd of 400 students at Lorain County Community College in Elyria, Ohio. “But somebody gave us a chance. Just like these folks up here are looking for a chance.”

The Obama campaign has pushed wealth and economic fairness arguments against Mitt Romney, who would be one of the wealthiest presidents in history -- and that quote was quickly seen as a veiled reference to his GOP opponent this fall.

Amy Sancetta / AP

President Barack Obama reaches out to shake hands with Lorain County Community College student Bronson Harwood after speaking at the college Wednesday in Elyria, Ohio.

And as he criticized Republicans for opposing Democrats’ efforts to raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans, he told the crowd that, like them, he doesn’t enjoy paying taxes, but unlike most Americans, he can afford to pay more.

“They want to give me more of a tax break,” he said of Republicans. “Now, I just paid taxes. It’s not like I love paying taxes. But I can afford it. I don't need another tax break."

Obama argued that tax cuts alone don't make the economy stronger and that GOP policies have been tried before and almost brought the “entire financial system” to a collapse.

“Take a look at what happened in Ohio between 2000 and 2008," Obama said. "It's not like we didn't try it. And instead of faster job growth, we had the slowest job growth in half a century.”

But the president also seemed on the defensive, acknowledging arguments against him -- from debt, deficits, and big-government spending. He asserted twice that investing in job training programs and cutting tax cuts for the wealthy did not amount to wealth redistribution, a common conservative criticism.

“Understand, this is not a redistribution argument," Obama said. "This is not about taking form rich people to give to poor people. This is about us together making investments in our country so everybody’s got a fair shot."

And, when arguing that government-subsidized community-college training programs were vehicles for economic growth, he said, “These investments are not part of some grand scheme to redistribute wealth, they’ve been made by Democrats and Republicans for generations, because they benefit all of us.”

Before he spoke, the president held a round table with four unemployed workers who are participating in the Lorain County Community College’s job training programs. He said those individuals represent the American notion that “we don't quit.”

“And so the question now is, how do we make sure that all of America is expressing that spirit through making sure that everybody is getting a fair shot?” he continued. “Because that’s going to be a major debate that we have not just for the next few months but the next few years.”

Following his speech, the president headed  to the Cleveland airport en route to Michigan, where he was expected to give two evening campaign speeches and raise money.

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Comment author avatarSpanky-Restored

But you are a true blue 1%-er now champ.

Embrace your wealth tiger, you earned it.

Oh and in this country we try to lay off the dog meat.

  • 86 votes
#1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:02 PM EDT

You should appreciate a self made man Spanky. Doesn't that fit your description? It must be tough for you to have something in common with the president.

  • 54 votes
#1.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

No silver spoon in the mouth. Just Labrador.

  • 64 votes
#1.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

We can be hopeful Michelle will soon tell us the nutritional value of canine.

  • 68 votes
#1.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

I do appreciate all that Wayne. So how come Obama doesn't seem to?

Wayne - did you go to Harvard?

Your wife pull down $300k from a job that magically disappeared the day she left it?

Silver spoon Wayne?

Shoot Wayne forget about Silver Spoons - I want to work for the GSA. Hell, depending on how hot them hookers were in Columbia, maybe the SS too.

  • 66 votes
#1.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

This is too good.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75296.html

Poor Bo. Whenever the poor mutt hears " Bo-dinner! " He's never sure if he should run- or hide.

I, for one, would stay away from White House barbecues. The wieners and schnauzer kraut are just not my thing.

And collie flower gives me gas. . .

  • 46 votes
#1.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:15 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBryan E., PAExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

We can be hopeful Michelle will soon tell us the nutritional value of canine.

Smiffy, Spanky, et al. - When you were children, did you write the grocery list or coordinate the meals in your household, or did you eat what was put on your plate?

Let's dispense with the false equivalencies.

  • 45 votes
#1.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:17 PM EDT
Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Please ryan try to get your kids to eat some dog. Heck Obama has signed into law the horse meat bill, so try to get them to eat some horse.

Go ahead - give it a shot and tell us tomorrow how it goes.

Too funny.

MMMMMM, dog. I mean grasshoppers, sure, but only if covered in chocolate. Totally different from some tasty chocolate Lab.

  • 32 votes
#1.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

Geez Spank..Still trying to change the narrative? Betcha your mommy and daddy paid for law school right?

  • 24 votes
#1.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

So this makes him capable of being the President?

  • 34 votes
#1.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:37 PM EDT
Comment author avatarTheOverlordExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Romney was born with a silver foot in his mouth. Of course he lies about that like everything else!

Obama is just barely in the 1% but clearly it wasn't handed to him and unlike most of the 1% crowd he wants a fair economic system so that the 99% has a chance to do better.

  • 40 votes
#1.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

Bryan -

It's not about false equivalencies, it's that these people actually think there's something funny about being a child in a third world country. I already posted the full context of this statement once today (from Barack Obama's "Dreams From My Father") and I'm proud to do it again:

"I learned how to eat small green chili peppers raw with dinner (plenty of rice), and, away from the dinner table, I was introduced to dog meat (tough), snake meat (tougher), and roasted grasshopper (crunchy). Like many Indonesians, Lolo followed a brand of Islam that could make room for the remnants of more ancient animist and Hindu faiths. He explained that a man took on the powers of whatever he ate: One day soon, he promised, he would bring home a piece of tiger meat for us to share.

That’s how things were, one long adventure, the bounty of a young boy’s life. In letters to my grandparents, I would faithfully record many of these events, confident that more civilizing packages of chocolate and peanut butter would surely follow. But not everything made its way into my letters; some things I found too difficult to explain. I didn’t tell Toot and Gramps about the face of the man who had come to our door one day with a gaping hole where his nose should have been: the whistling sound he made as he asked my mother for food. Nor did I mention the time that one of my friends told me in the middle of recess that his baby brother had died the night before of an evil spirit brought in by the wind–the terror that danced in my friends’ eyes for the briefest of moments before he let out a strange laugh and punched my arm and broke off into a breathless run.

There was the empty look on the faces of farmers the year the rains never came, the stoop in their shoulders as they wandered barefoot through their barren, cracked fields, bending over every so often to crumble earth between their fingers; and their desperation the following year when the rains lasted for over a month, swelling the river and fields until the streets gushed with water and swept as high as my waistand families scrambled to rescue their goats and their hens even as chunks of their huts washed away. The world was violent, I was learning, unpredictable and often cruel. My grandparents knew nothing about such a world, I decided; there was no point in disturbing them with questions they couldn’t answer."

If Spanky and JAS1 and NoJoe think that hunger in third world countries is funny, I'll bet they think that leprosy, disease, drought, floods and homelessness are just hilarious.

  • 44 votes
#1.11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:42 PM EDT
Comment author avatarzkysrExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

"Shoot Wayne forget about Silver Spoons - I want to work for the GSA. Hell, depending on how hot them hookers were in Columbia, maybe the SS too." You can come up with distractions 100x worse and it will never compare to GWB.

It is hard to clean up after the BIGGEST DUMB F*CK IN HISTORY who invades a country for no reason and brought us from surplus to the hole we are in now. Life got worse for 99% of us with the previous administration don't forget that. Romney will follow the same logic.

  • 31 votes
#1.12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

Change the narrative Torpedo? Nope, this here is about Silver Spoons, from a guy who got a full ride to Harvard, who's wife, also a lawyer, made huge coin, and who now sends his kids to a posh private school.

Doesn't seem like a winning argument for Obama, but damn I'm glad he is stepping in it.

How about you Torpedo? Ms. Torpedo go to Harvard? She pulling down fat stacks of cash? You sending the little Torpedos off to private school?

I'm straight out of the trailer park my man. Hey, maybe that's why I'm so fond of your great state.

  • 30 votes
#1.13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

Obama got rich off of being a career politician.. He don't serve the country as something special and extra.. They way public service was to be held as a precious EXTRA service... Obama takes the pay and his door to the lobby is always wide open.. Look at the books of the banks reports under donations and see how much each quarter they gave to buy him.. Slimy career politicians.. YUCK..

Ron Paul for President. He wants to only be paid the average median income wage of 32,000 dollars.

HIS DOOR has been shut to every lobby for 40 years as thats not how are country is supposed to work.

He also wants us to support him (when he doles out his signature to spend) and slash the pay of all politicians to the same median income.. He says publicly, If politicians would want a raise, they would have to work to increase the PEOPLES pay.

Tell me how you can argue with that.

  • 25 votes
#1.14 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:48 PM EDT
Comment author avatarRedDevPSExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

If Spanky and JAS1 and NoJoe think that hunger in third world countries is funny, I'll bet they think that leprosy, disease, drought, floods and homelessness are just hilarious.

Thank gawd they weren't around to liberate the Jews from the camps. They would have been absolutely giddy with joy dancing on the mass graves of the dead.

  • 17 votes
#1.15 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:54 PM EDT
Comment author avatarRTyp0Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Obama is much more of a self made man than Romney ever will be. And that just drives conservatives crazy.

  • 36 votes
#1.16 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:01 PM EDT

Obama's Indonesian cookbook: "Dreams of My Fido"

Spaghetti and Mutt balls ...

Pugs in a Blanket ...

Beagles with Cream Cheese ...

Thanks for the link and the laugh, no joe

  • 30 votes
#1.17 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:08 PM EDT

Yes, that Tony Rezko deal was certainly "self-made" wasn't it ? LOL !

I wonder if this means Obama will have to curtail the golf outings so he doesn't appear one of the rich boys he is trying to distance himself from. What about those jet-set vacations there Barry ?? Why, just the other day in Colombia you acknowledged scouting out for the next vacation spot for you, Michelle, the girls .... and yes, the family dog riding in a separate airplane. LOL !! We all know that ALL the common people fly their dogs in separate airplanes, don't they Mr. President ????????

Just another silly-a$$ game in the class-warfare strategy .... trying to pit the "average joe" versus the guy with a "silver spoon" in his mouth.

Meanwhile, Obama goes back to Air Force One for more shrimp remoulade that the peasants cannot see him eat. Too bad those people in the picture don't work for the GSA ... damn fine fringe benefits !!!

  • 27 votes
#1.18 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:18 PM EDT

"I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. Michelle wasn't, either," the president said to a crowd of 400 students at Lorain County Community College in Elyria, Ohio. “But somebody gave us a chance. Just like these folks up here are looking for a chance.”

Your point? Considering you spent your formative years in 3rd world countries, it is no wonder you have zero concept of what growing up in America is all about. And you have little to nothing in common with your audience today. So I'm thinking you are even less in touch than Romney is.

  • 35 votes
#1.19 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:35 PM EDT

zkysr

Life got worse for 99% of us with the previous administration don't forget that....

Try again.....here are those DARN FACTS that keep getting in the Obama supporter's path.

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/05/10563467-americas-most-miserable-states

Americans are not any happier than they were last year. In fact, they are slightly more miserable. At least, that’s what the recent Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index shows. The annual index measures six areas of well-being, including life evaluation, physical health and work environment. In 2011, the national well-being score declined slightly from 2010 and was the lowest since the survey began in 2008.

  • 14 votes
#1.20 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:46 PM EDT

What's that old saying ..... O yeah, you are what you eat.

  • 10 votes
#1.21 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

Rtypo, self-made marxist.

  • 9 votes
#1.22 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:52 PM EDT

What does a silver spoon have to do with it? Obama has been GIVEN everything he has - he has not worked for any of it - he was an affirmative action put his entire career and now he is another one -

Where are Obo's grades and writings from college? Where are his theses and writings from law review at Harvard? There simply aren't any. Where is scholarly research proving that massively wonky intellect? He has none because he was an affirmative action black kid given a chance to prop up the EEOC numbers the colleges had to report. Obama was never a stellar trial lawyer, he never represented big companies, or saved the pension or disability benefit of a single retired person. He did NOTHING in the law, nothing in college and nothing in either the Illinois legislature or the US Senate. Apparently has also done nothing except spend money as President.

He has voted present his entire life. And voting present was enough because he was the affirmative action put - he only NEEDED to vote present.

Romney employed people. Romney created wealth for people. Romney went out his way to help his employees when they needed help. did he sometimes need to close businesses - yes - he did. He needed to protect the money of the people who had confidence in him and his business.

I don't like Romney - I need to think long and hard before I vote for him - but this class warfare don't vote for the rich kid is so beneath the dignity of the office of the President of the United States as to be disgusting.

You might not like Romney. you might not like Republicans and you might not like Mormons - but PBO needs to be pilloried for this - its childish and its the argument of a simpleton. But, until he proves otherwise I guess I need to just our President on his actions and the content of his character. You should too.

  • 30 votes
#1.23 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

Well you and Moochelle are sure making up for it now at taxpayer expense. Sorry Barry, but your more of an out-of-touch elitist than Romney. What makes you worse is that big fat anti-American chip on your shoulder.

  • 22 votes
#1.24 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:01 PM EDT
Comment author avatarMTpoliticoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Is that a silver suppository up his a55 though? What a D I C K .

  • 13 votes
#1.25 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

Like I said it is hard to clean up after DUMB F*CK, life got got worse at the beginning of our century. It is going to take time to clean up after GWB. Think how much worse things would be if Obama continued what GWB started and invaded another country for no reason. GWB made things worse far faster than if any of us were president and Romney will do it again. I will vote for Ron Paul if he is on the ballot, I am not a Obama supporter, I just hate what GWB has done to us and the Republican party will not admit it and says everything is Obama's fault. Romney has no clue and it is if the Republican party has just settled on him. Even Republicans don't like Romney but they will vote for him because he is not Obama.

  • 13 votes
#1.26 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:10 PM EDT

zkysr

..... It is going to take time to clean up after GWB....

STILL Bush's fault??!! That is pathetic as it gets.

  • 34 votes
#1.27 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

Silver spoon to eat meatdog-balls ?

  • 8 votes
#1.28 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

I see the "San Diego" knuckle dragger is back...have a nice vacation, Spanky? Oh, I forgot...you have me on ignore...oh well...you should have been here to defend your liar friends, NoJo and Smiffy...it was REALLY bad...even your BFF, the White Collar Criminal is upset.

Oh, and Brianb? He's really gone off the deep end...mumbling about "taxageddon" or some other nontroversy that I'm sure you'll just fall in line with.

Sure ya will...isn't that right?

  • 14 votes
#1.29 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

but this class warfare don't vote for the rich kid is so beneath the dignity of the office of the President of the United States as to be disgusting.

I didn't like the comment either, but after Romney's slip-up yesterday in a private fundraiser and his gaffes over the past campaign (remember "I like to fire people?"), I'd say their about even. Actually, Obama's ahead considering what Romney didn't do when Ted Nugent went all crazy about this administration.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

  • 18 votes
#1.30 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:31 PM EDT

"STILL Bush's fault??!! That is pathetic as it gets."

Yes, pathetic but true. When you say "still" that comes of as admission that you know he screwed up. Just admit it it's OK we all know it.

  • 18 votes
#1.31 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:37 PM EDT

That's the way to stand on your record Mr. President! Vote for me because I'm not the rich guy, I'm only the child of Affirmative action. You may not have been born with a silver spoon in your mouth, but you sure as hell were given everything you got. Why don't you go for it all Mr. President and call Romney a White Man! That should buy you some votes as well. You've got nothing to show for your career or you would campaign on what you accomplished rather than what the other person is or isn't.

  • 26 votes
#1.32 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

"That's the way to stand on your record Mr. President! Vote for me because I'm not the rich guy" If that was true how is that any better than "vote for me because I am not Obama" which is true.

  • 12 votes
#1.33 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:11 PM EDT

Obama's education grants were due to his race and that's not "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps"...that's affirmative action. Didn't he apply for grants as a "foreign national"...?

At any rate, as a candidate for President Romney WAY outclasses the candidate Obama was. Obama is our learning on the job in chief President who really doesn't do much except be the Democratic Party leadership's whipping boy and campaign.

  • 18 votes
#1.34 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:12 PM EDT

Let's see ..... Obamacare, GSA scandal, Secret Service scandal, 23 other Federal department investigations, Fast & Furious, Higher taxes, High unemployment, No Federal Budget, Under-the-table deals, Suing states for enforcing Federal laws, SCOTUS, Solyndra, Gas prices more than doubled, More regulations, Black Panther voter intimidation, No Keystone pipeline, Massive deficit spending, Over 5 trillion added to the national debt with NO RESULTS, No plan for anything except the "Buffet Rule", Speech after speech with no follow-through, the only thing we can 'Hope' for is that he gets the 'Silver Boot' in the azz out the door ....

Now there's the Hope' and keep the 'Change' ......

  • 19 votes
#1.35 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:23 PM EDT

Neither was I but the difference is, you and Michelle think you are ENTITLED to it!

  • 15 votes
#1.36 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:29 PM EDT

"Obama's education grants were due to his race and that's not "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps"...that's affirmative action. Didn't he apply for grants as a "foreign national"...?"

Obama went to college when Reagan was in office, should we blame him if what you say is true?

  • 8 votes
#1.37 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:29 PM EDT

Wayne-1656909

You should appreciate a self made man Spanky. Doesn't that fit your description? It must be tough for you to have something in common with the president.

Gee Wayne, then why to you begrudge Romney his?

  • 9 votes
#1.38 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:32 PM EDT

Republican response to discussion about the economy and middle class success: "But... but... but.... he ate DAWG! Waaaaaa!!"

ROFLMAO.

  • 11 votes
#1.39 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:33 PM EDT
Comment author avatarYo-HoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Spanky! WOW!!

Man, I've been around some disgruntled, pathetic, sour-puss, hating, misguided, cynical, obtuse, rednecks in my life, but you take the cake. I truly feel sorry for anyone that has to deal with you on a day-to-day basis.

I think you're so obsessed with Obama that you’re either jealous or probably masturbate to his picture. Why else would anyone hop on the lamest excuse just to talk about a person (like blame a child for what his parents do?!?)?

For your sake, you'd better hope Obama sticks around for a good many years. He seems to be your reason for existing. Are you Gay, by any chance??

  • 8 votes
#1.40 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:41 PM EDT

Yo-Ho,

Why do you resort to personal attacks?

  • 4 votes
#1.41 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:49 PM EDT

Countdown to Election Day: 202 days

“Take a look at what happened in Ohio between 2000 and 2008," Obama said. "It's not like we didn't try it. And instead of faster job growth, we had the slowest job growth in half a century.”

Shall we get the figures from 2009-2012? I believe it was WORSE!

But the president also seemed on the defensive, acknowledging arguments against him -- from debt, deficits, and big-government spending.

“Understand, this is not a redistribution argument," Obama said. "This is not about taking form rich people to give to poor people. This is about us together making investments in our country so everybody’s got a fair shot."

Everyone already has the same fair shot, SOME of them just choose not to act on it!

Its so much easier to sit at home and collect welfare and watch TV all day!

  • 10 votes
#1.42 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:58 PM EDT

Obama is just barely in the 1% but clearly it wasn't handed to him and unlike most of the 1% crowd he wants a fair economic system so that the 99% has a chance to do better.

Well yeah, when the baby daddy’s mama goes to live in some god forsaken country, what do you expect??? That was HER choice!

  • 9 votes
#1.43 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:29 PM EDT

"I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth"

Oh, that's nice. Had to go barefoot to milk the cows and pick the tomatoes and hem my own ten year old jeans blah blah blah. And neither was I born with a silver spoon. So what? And I'm doing all right in my career and my life. So you can quit bashing people who work to be successful, Mr. Obama. It's getting old.

  • 15 votes
#1.44 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:07 PM EDT

FedupwithFed

Countdown to Election Day: 202 days

“Take a look at what happened in Ohio between 2000 and 2008," Obama said. "It's not like we didn't try it. And instead of faster job growth, we had the slowest job growth in half a century.”

Shall we get the figures from 2009-2012? I believe it was WORSE!

False. In the first decade of the 21st century, there was ZERO net job growth. ZERO!!!!!!!!!. And the recession negated that. The Obama administration would be close in having net positive job growth if they got a second term.

  • 6 votes
#1.45 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:40 PM EDT

Lay off the references and jokes about Obama eating dog meat. He ate it when he was 6 YEARS OLD in an Asian country where dog meat is a staple food and PERFECTLY NORMAL and acceptable. They have "food" dogs and birds in cages everywhere in places like Vietnam and Cambodia, (although this is inhumane, and I do not condone this especially in America). You know what else they eat all the time there? They eat deep fried tarantulas in Cambodia, and Fetal duck egg in Vietnam! Big deal, get over it. Different cultures have different customs and norms. I don't begrudge Obama and his family of immersing themselves in a different culture while on vacation. In fact, sometimes it is disrespectful to refuse their customs when you are in their country. I can tell you from experience, as I have traveled to numerous different countries including several countries in Asia. I went to Vietnam and Cambodia 2 years ago, when I was 13 and ate fetal duck egg and ostrich. Just a couple weeks ago I ate alligator and kangaroo in Australia! It is okay to try various culinary customs when traveling through different countries. What we consider as disgusting and terrible in America may be perfectly normal in a different country. So, stop being so narrow-minded. I don't see what all the fuss is about.

  • 13 votes
#1.46 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:03 AM EDT

Lay off the references and jokes about Obama eating dog meat.

Ah shucks .. let the simians have there moment. They aren't challenged enough to understand the difference between adult decisions and childhood experience. That is why they love Romney. There isn't a get rich quick rich scheme they don't love .. massaging their hypothalamus gland is what they do. Who else would let a kid eat 18 tacos in one sitting. Who else would idolize Dumb and Dumber as their theme movie. Well, you've met the crowd. Calling them Neanderthals is to undermine the the IQ of a species of human, they exist below that crowd.

So let Spanky play lawyer for a day as he spanks his monkey to the tune of 500$ per day that he wishes he could earn. Let no jo blow the day way with her Mutt Pie that makes all puke. Let JAS1 pull Spanky's plug from the rear and spread the freshness to her minions.

Bottom line, we know who the child actors are, and bottom line, they are cretins. Sadly, our money goes to supporting them. But hey, it is welfare we are talking about, and they are ultimately, the welfare queens. The lowest of the lowest, the scum of the scum, and finally, the group that is the 1% that we have to support to allow our programs to work for the other 99% who need them.

  • 7 votes
#1.47 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:02 AM EDT

The tired, "blame Bush, (republicans) story is getting soooo old. This is SOP for Obama....blame the other side to deflect attention from the FACT he's done far worse the Bush ever did. That is the REAL story!

  • 11 votes
#1.48 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:09 AM EDT

Willow: Are you kidding me? Guess how long it took Bush to accrue 2 trillion dollars of debt during his presidency. 2.5 years! You know who started a war in the Middle East where we threw away billions upon billions of dollars? President Bush. He was like the male version of Sarah Palin. President Obama was given a wreck of a country when Bush left office. The economy was terrible, and unemployment soaring. But, Obama is doing a lot to try to lessen debt, turn around the economy, and put people back to jobs. I'd say he's done a hell of a better job than Bush. In fact, it ridiculous to even compare the two.

  • 8 votes
#1.49 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:22 AM EDT
Comment author avatarvfeinsteinExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

LMAO ... You know the haters are desperate when they climb on their wee little soap boxes, throw a temper tantrum and whine, "BUT! BUT!! Obama never worked for anything! It was all affirmative action!"

There's nothing more pathetic than crackers who know they are intellectually inferior to a minority who actually worked for what he has, as opposed to some cracker who was born with a silver shovel up his ass. Nah, the President's brains had nothing to do with him being the first African American editor of the Harvard Law Review, graduating from Harvard and ultimately becoming President. Affirmative action put him in office!

You pitiful crackers are just too funny!

P.S. - Oh, and the crackers just cannot get over the fact that it was a wanna-be cowboy poser whose daddy bailed him out of his multitude of failings that put this country in the deep hole it's in so it MUST be the black man's fault! It couldn't have POSSIBLY happened under a crackers watch!! Yeah ... there is an ABUNDANCE of evidence that proves the current economic clusterf**k was brought to you by Dumbya McFlightsuit but who needs facts when you can let your racism show and blame the black guy!! Tell you rednecks what ... I'll send you each a quarter so you can call someone who cares ... 1-800-WHI-NERR ... what a bunch of cowards the teabaggers are ...

  • 4 votes
#1.50 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:42 AM EDT

magicman - you're pretty funny. It was announced yesterday that Obama has created OVER 5 TRILLION in debt during his presidency to date. That far outspends your post. Guess you think that's OK. I don't. What Obama has spent this money on is a big part of the problem. So much of the money has been out right wasted. Since you obviously have forgotten, things were much better during the Bush years than they are now. Only when it became clear that Obama would most likely be our next President did it all go down the crapper.

  • 8 votes
#1.51 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:20 AM EDT

@TheOverlord

Obama is just barely in the 1% but clearly it wasn't handed to him and unlike most of the 1% crowd he wants a fair economic system so that the 99% has a chance to do better.

Wrong. The 1% is anyone making over 350k per year. Obama made two and a half times that last year. And of course it was handed to him, are you friggin insane. Politicians don't earn money they have it handed to them by people looking to buy influence or as a pay off for favors garnered when they were in office. That's why they all get cushy "consulting" or lobbying gigs anytime they're out of office. And of course he talks a lot about how he can afford to pay more when he's campaigning about his ludicrous Buffet rule even though it wouldn't require him to pay one cent more.

Bush may have been a moron but at least when he opened his mouth you could be sure he actually meant and believed what he said. Obama is so full of sht it's become painful to even listen to him anymore, he just tells people whatever they want to hear. For example last week he was bitching about oil speculators again. Well he's been doing that for 3 friggin years but has made absolutely no effort to reign them in even though there are relatively simple solutions. He has completely given up on governing and 100% of everything he does and says is about reelection. You may like the things he says but you'd have to be an utter moron by this point if you actually believe he's going to even attempt to do any of them. He knows the Buffet rule won't pass, he knows it won't amount to jack sht, he knows there is a possibility it could result in LESS revenue for the gov but he also knows it is exactly what people like to hear which is the only reason he is saying it over and over and over again. A tax that, at best, will bring in enough money in one year to run the government for 11 hours. Is that really worth soooo much of our Presidents time? Any simpleton realizes he wouldn't be wasting one minute of his time on this if it weren't an election year. If he gets a second term who wants to bet we don't hear another peep about the Buffet rule?

  • 5 votes
#1.52 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:33 AM EDT

Magician - most of those writing, know that, they are just recognizing the hipocracy in attacking Romney for putting his dog in a carrier on the roof. Incidentally, other than being on the roof is no different than in the bed of a truck, or like cattle in a truck trailer or cattle car of a train.

  • 2 votes
#1.53 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:53 AM EDT

Who really cares who put the dog on the roof or ate it? If you do you are distracted. The point is Obama is a diverse man who can relate with a larger majority of people than Romney and look at issues from many perspectives. He is White and he is Black. He was poor, middle class and now rich. He has had exposure from many faiths. His Mom is American and Dad foreign. Romney is the best candidate if you are rich and Mormon.

  • 4 votes
#1.54 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:15 PM EDT

Willow: "Since you obviously have forgotten, things were much better during the Bush years than they are now. Only when it became clear that Obama would most likely be our next President did it all go down the crapper."

This is a case of "post hoc ergo propter hoc." This means, "Since that event followed this one, that event must have been caused by this one," which is incorrect. It is correlation, not causation. Bush started the whole ball rolling. He left office right before the major effects of his presidency started surfacing. Obama got in just in time to take the blame for the economic crash. They tried and are trying numerous different measures to counteract this crash, but you never know what it takes to stop a depression. You know, it took WWII to get us out of the Great Depression. If you are expecting the economy and unemployment to get all patched up quickly, you are sorely mistaken. It's likely going to get worse before it gets better.

  • 4 votes
#1.55 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

zkysr:

I believe Obama recieved 750k last year. Before presidency he was not earning nearly as much. So, he is faaaaar away from being rich, buddy. Unless you think having a couple million dollars is rich..

  • 3 votes
#1.56 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:22 PM EDT

Zkysr- I don't know where you have been the last 3+ years, but Obama has not connected anything in this country. Right now this country is more divided than it ever has been. Between Obama dividing us by race and wealth I don't see him connecting with the public unless you are poor, needing a hand out, or completely ill-informed about politics. If you keep yourself up to date on what is happening in this country then you would know all of his rosy rhetoric is a lie, or a gross exaggeration!

  • 7 votes
#1.57 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:26 PM EDT

Magicman - Actually, I don't expect the economy or unemployment to be patched up at all as long as Obama is our President. We've wasted 3 years already on this experiment. It is time to move on. Even trying Romney is a much better solution than continued certain failure under Obama.

  • 6 votes
#1.58 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:26 PM EDT

Obama wasn't born with silver spoon in his mouth...neither was I; I guess that means I should be President!

BTW Obama, Romney is also a self made man. - From ABC News (who has NEVER been accused of being conservative) - "And while Romney inherited much of his father’s fortune when he died, he did not keep it, instead donating it to charity."

  • 7 votes
#1.59 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:29 PM EDT

"Zkysr- I don't know where you have been the last 3+ years, but Obama has not connected anything in this country. Right now this country is more divided than it ever has been. Between Obama dividing us by race and wealth I don't see him connecting with the public unless you are poor, needing a hand out, or completely ill-informed about politics. If you keep yourself up to date on what is happening in this country then you would know all of his rosy rhetoric is a lie, or a gross exaggeration!"

If Romney was President the past three years I do not see how anything would be better or different, if not worse. How would Romney approach or do anything different than Bush? And Bush screwed things up so bad that Obama was awarded a noble peace prize for nothing, and it is because there is no such thing as a flaming bag of sh!t prize to award Bush.

  • 5 votes
#1.60 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

How the media gets you people to believe their spin is beyond me. Obama's comment wasn't a slight toward Romney. He was speaking to a group of people about fairness and support. His comment was meant to say that he made it with fairness and support, which all Americans should be given. It happens that Romney was born into money. . . So what? Stick to the point, people. Don't fall for the "FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT" mantra of the media. No one makes it without support. Romney had it. Obama had it. I have it. We all need it.

  • 4 votes
#1.61 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

Zkysr- Mitt actually has a track record unlike Obama. His track record is far from being another Bush, this information is easily found... I do appreciate that you can acknowledge that Obama did in fact win the Nobel Prize for doing nothing! But Bush was not solely to blame for our economic misfortune, most of the reckless spending came when the 2007 Democrat led congress came into power...

  • 5 votes
#1.62 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

"No one makes it without support. Romney had it. Obama had it. I have it. We all need it."

BS, I am in the 1% and no one gave me any kind of support and most everything has always been against me and I have had to FIGHT for everything I have. I am glad you, Romney and Obama are doing well. The point is, it is easier to relate when you have walked a mile in another mans shoes.

  • 2 votes
#1.63 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

"Zkysr- Mitt actually has a track record unlike Obama. His track record is far from being another Bush, this information is easily found... I do appreciate that you can acknowledge that Obama did in fact win the Nobel Prize for doing nothing! But Bush was not solely to blame for our economic misfortune, most of the reckless spending came when the 2007 Democrat led congress came into power..."

How much does it cost in money, respect and lives to invade a country for no reason? Bush is not solely to blame but I can appreciate you acknowledge that he is to blame.

I sucks that you and others have had to settle for Romney. Paul is who I would and will vote for if possible.

  • 2 votes
#1.64 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

What country are you taking about that was invaded for no reason?

    #1.65 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

    You guys ever try to clean up after a really big dog? Cleaning up after our dog-eating POTUS is going to make that job look like using a baby spoon to feed you kid mush.

    • 1 vote
    #1.66 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:20 PM EDT

    zkysr- I think Paul tries to be an honest politician if there is such a thing...but his gold standard idea is way to risky...

    • 1 vote
    #1.67 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

    "zkysr- I think Paul tries to be an honest politician if there is such a thing...but his gold standard idea is way to risky..."

    You think any congress would let him implement "his gold standard idea"? You should concentrate on the things he can control.

    • 2 votes
    #1.68 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:17 PM EDT

    It's so funny to see the teabaggers and their dog references. The book has been out for how long - and it took you all THAT long to read it? It just proves that only three out of ten teabaggers know what a book is - and only one of them has the second grade education needed to actually read one. Such desperate comments from people completely ignorant of other cultures - and given some of the old familiar names, I'm not at all surprised.

    • 3 votes
    #1.69 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:22 PM EDT

    "zkysr:

    I believe Obama recieved 750k last year. Before presidency he was not earning nearly as much. So, he is faaaaar away from being rich, buddy. Unless you think having a couple million dollars is rich.."

    An idiot can win the lotto and will still be poor because he will not know what to do and die broke and lonely. Obama has nothing to worry about the rest of his life in regards to his own financial security. He is rich and good for him.

    • 2 votes
    #1.70 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:35 PM EDT

    But, like I said, being in the top 1 percent doesn't mean he's rich. Being well to do and having financial security is different from being rich. So, it's interesting how everyone thinks he's "bragging" about not being born with a silver spoon in his mouth, as if he is implying that he is rich now. But, he definitely deserves every dollar he's earned.

    Also, some of you people claim that Romney was not "born with a silver spoon in his mouth". He is the very definition of being born in with a silver spoon in his mouth. He was born to a privileged family, his father was a governor, and his family had plenty of money to send him to any school of their choosing and provide him with anything he wanted. He had a very lucky start on life, and the deck was stacked in his favor. That does not mean that Romney didn't make his own money later, however. He has made millions through his own efforts. That doesn't change the fact that he was born with a silver spoon.

    • 4 votes
    #1.71 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:52 PM EDT

    If all you guys got are jokes about how a child ate a rather common food in third-world Indonesia, and think it's funny to boot.... all you are proving is your desperation and ethnocentric bigotry. Pretty much fulfilling the truth in the very stereotypes that you accuse the left of manufacturing.

    • 7 votes
    #1.72 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:22 PM EDT

    And yet no one begrudges Oprah of her billions...no double standard there huh folks?

    • 3 votes
    #1.73 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

    No silver spoon? Grand Ma sent him to the most expensive prep school in Hawaii, Grand MA was a vice-president at a bank. Hipocrit!!!

    • 4 votes
    #1.74 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

    I read an article that says President Obama's Harvard education was paid for by Bill Ayers' parents. They were told he was a Foreign Exchange Student from Indonesia. Now you know the rest of the story.

    • 2 votes
    #1.75 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

    I really hate to tell you this (actually I don't) but what caused this recession was put in place before Bush ever took office. You criticize because someone is blaming Obama but you turn around and do the same. Can you say hypocrisy? I knew you could.

      #1.76 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

      Mark L-464288

      What country are you taking about that was invaded for no reason?

      Iraq.

      • 3 votes
      #1.77 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

      President Harry Truman, 1948 “The Republicans … will try to make people believe that
      everything the Government has done for the country is socialism. They will go to
      the people and say: "Did you see that social security check you received the
      other day—you thought that was good for you, didn't you? That's just too bad!
      That's nothing in the world but socialism. Did you see that new flood control
      dam the Government is building over there for the protection of your property?
      Sorry—that's awful socialism! That new hospital that they are building is
      socialism. Price supports, more socialism for the farmers! Minimum wage laws?
      Socialism for labor! Socialism is bad for you, my friend. Everybody knows that.
      And here you are, with your new car, and your home, and better opportunities for
      the kids, and a television set—you are just surrounded by socialism! Now the
      Republicans say, ‘That's a terrible thing, my friend, and the only way out of
      this sinkhole of socialism is to vote for the Republican ticket."
      EGADZ!!!!The republicanCrimeCartel was doing then what they do now and that was 64 years ago!! Holy Sh!t!

      • 3 votes
      #1.78 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

      "I really hate to tell you this (actually I don't) but what caused this recession was put in place before Bush ever took office. You criticize because someone is blaming Obama but you turn around and do the same. Can you say hypocrisy? I knew you could."

      OK we will blame George Washington, but he did not invade Iraq for no reason.

      "No silver spoon? Grand Ma sent him to the most expensive prep school in Hawaii, Grand MA was a vice-president at a bank. Hipocrit!!!"

      You forgot about the luxurious dog meat.

      "And yet no one begrudges Oprah of her billions...no double standard there huh folks?"

      She is running for President? Guess what, Ted Nugent is going to jail or is going to die pretty soon. That has more relevance and it isn't.

      • 3 votes
      #1.79 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

      @ DelFairchild: "I read an article that says President Obama's Harvard education was paid for by Bill Ayers' parents. They were told he was a Foreign Exchange Student from Indonesia. Now you know the rest of the story."

      You would probably believe an article that claimed Obama was an alien from Mars too, right?

      • 5 votes
      #1.80 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:38 PM EDT

      First of all, Romney IS a self-made man. He had already made his fortune before his father's death. What money he inherited from his father's estate he donated to BYU. Yes, he had some privileges growing up in a wealthy family, but nothing that stands out as "over the top". While many claim that ROmney doesn't "get" the 99% (and that may or may not be true), the Obama's don't seem to truly get the 99% either. They don't seem to understand that perception plays a huge role in what we think about them. Time and again, they have gone off on expensive trips (sometimes throwing in a meeting or two so that they can claim they were doing the country's business) while most Americans are finding it difficult to take the family to the beach (or some other localized vacation) for a week. How many Americans have taken "stay at home" vacations or just extended weekend trips instead of a traditional vacation due to the current financial situation. I don't begrudge them a vacation, all presidents and their families have taken them, but to be extravagent during the current economic crisis makes me think of the Romanovs or Marie Antoinette. Saying you care and you feel our pain is just words....show the American people that you actually get it.

      • 2 votes
      #1.81 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

      @ cruzin:

      Why should a wealthy family live like a poor one? We earned are money, and we're sure going to use it! Just because most of Americans can't have a couple international vacations a year, doesn't mean that those that earned enough should stop having fun. There ALWAYS have been and always will be people who don't have money to take these kinds of vacations. But, their economic troubles certainly are not our problem. I do see your point.. But, it is just not practical. Besides, Obama is President of the United States. As such, you have to do an extensive amount of traveling as part of the job. Obama is much more sensitive to the poor of the country than Romney. The president has instated many measures to help the poor cope with their economic problems.

      • 3 votes
      #1.82 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:22 PM EDT

      magicman in the sky

      Willow: Are you kidding me? Guess how long it took Bush to accrue 2 trillion dollars of debt during his presidency. 2.5 years! You know who started a war in the Middle East where we threw away billions upon billions of dollars? President Bush. He was like the male version of Sarah Palin. President Obama was given a wreck of a country when Bush left office. The economy was terrible, and unemployment soaring. But, Obama is doing a lot to try to lessen debt, turn around the economy, and put people back to jobs. I'd say he's done a hell of a better job than Bush. In fact, it ridiculous to even compare the two.

      You’re right magic……..At least Bushes debt went to rid the world of murderous dictators and terrorists, Obama wasted our tax dollars on coked up monkey’s, lavish parties, lavish vacations and such…BRAVO!

      Obama is much more sensitive to the poor of the country than Romney. The president has instated many measures to help the poor cope with their economic problems.

      Really? NAME ONE!

      • 2 votes
      #1.83 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:17 PM EDT

      He works to provide more welfare, food stamps, and free healthcare. He also is focused creating a tax system in which the wealthy a higher percentage than the poor. Romney, on the other hand, has interests in keeping taxes low for the wealthy. He does not want to raise them like Obama. I must say that I do not agree with taxing the wealthy a much higher percentage. This certainly won't put much of a dent in the debt, but it certainly will be negative for those who work hard to earn a good living.

      • 2 votes
      #1.84 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:34 PM EDT

      3 posts above I said, "we earned are money". I meant to say "our". Sorry about the typo.

      • 2 votes
      #1.85 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:36 PM EDT

      magicman in the sky

      He works to provide more welfare, food stamps, and free healthcare. He also is focused creating a tax system in which the wealthy a higher percentage than the poor. Romney, on the other hand, has interests in keeping taxes low for the wealthy. He does not want to raise them like Obama. I must say that I do not agree with taxing the wealthy a much higher percentage. This certainly won't put much of a dent in the debt, but it certainly will be negative for those who work hard to earn a good living.

      You said he instated many measures to help the poor, sorry but the poor have been receiving welfare, food stamps and free health care for years, so how does Barry get credit for instating that? You are proud that he keeps the poor DEPENDENT on the government? Its just another form of slavery.

      The wealthy already pay a higher percentage of taxes too.

      Do you really know what you are talking about or just parroting what the DNC TELLS you?

      • 3 votes
      #1.86 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:07 PM EDT

      JoAnne in PA,

      Obama's stepfather was an Engineer (IIRC it was one of the big oil companies that sent him to Indonesia on ajob) and if you reread the book 's passage - it says that "AWAY from the dinner table he ate dog meat". His family certainly wasn't living in poverty in Indonesia. The young Obama tried dog meat at the local street vendors as an adventure. (The French eat horse meat -- and they're supposed to be civlized!!) And obviously you don't have to live in a third world country to know hunger ...

      When Obama was about 9 or 10, his mother sent back to Honolulu to live with her parents - until he graduated and went off to college (first to Columbia and then Harvard). His Grandmother was a VP for the Bank of Hawaii. She got him a scholarship to the exclusive prep school. So no Obama wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth, but he didn't grow up poor or even lower middle class either.

      Michelle also grew up in a stable middle class family (not without life's struggles). However, she was picked to attend a prestigousus MAGNET School in Chicago based on academic excellence and it seems very unlikely that her college test scores weren't high enough that she would have been "discouraged from applying to Harvard" (as TeamObama tried to imply during the 2007-2008 campaign).

      I'm definitely all for everyone paying their fair share of taxes. But there needs to be a COMPLETE OVERHAUL AND STREAMLINING of the tax structure. Even those like Buffet have admitted that implementing the Buffet Rule would only ADD YET ANOTHER layer of onerous paperwork and additional staffing and processing costs!!

      Aside from Romney being a twit and Obama being a pinwheel, neither one relates all that well with the typical middle class working family. Just think of all the GOOD WORKS which could be accomplished with all that WASTED CAMPAIGN MONEY.

      • 2 votes
      #1.87 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:23 PM EDT

      Fedup:

      Are you intentionally misunderstanding my post? Obama wants to raise taxes for the rich. Yes, I know they are already higher, and I was not implying that this was not the case.

      I suggest you look up his unemployment benefit extension.

      You think the poor are dependent on the government, because they can't earn enough to support themselves? In cases like that, of course they are dependent on the government!

      I do indeed know what I am talking about. However, I don't spend much time ranting about politics as I am sure some of you do. I mainly gather what I can from news, and my dad.

      • 2 votes
      #1.88 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:42 PM EDT

      @Jim

      I wonder if this means Obama will have to curtail the golf outings so he doesn't appear one of the rich boys he is trying to distance himself from

      So everyone who plays golf is rich or am I missing something?

      • 1 vote
      #1.89 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:44 PM EDT

      OK we will blame George Washington, but he did not invade Iraq for no reason.

      His reason for invading Iraq was simply fear. Iraq posed no threat to us, and even if they did we could have handled them much more skillfully than we did. There was no reason for an invasion; they provided a buffer against Iran, and an opposite (similar to Pakistan and India) to distract them. Now the Iranians can take control of Iraq easily. We could have simply blockaded Iraq, or made a smaller military commitment than we did. But we threw away any logic and made a reckless invasion. "To promote democracy." Democracy is spread not by bullets and battle tanks but by and exchange of ideas and emotions and knowledge. Any man who thinks you can spread democracy by sending troops in is an idiot. So was Bush and his entire staff.

      OBAMA BIDEN 2012

      • 1 vote
      #1.90 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:41 AM EDT

      No Magic, just trying to understand why you are giving credit to Obama for something the poor already got before Obama became president.

      If Obama wants to raise taxes for the rich, then why didn’t he pay more than his fair share and set the example? Obama's effective tax rate is just above 20 percent -- lower than many Americans who earn less. He has made tax-rate fairness a campaign issue.

      The only reason why he needs an unemployment extension is because he has stifled the job market. If those people could find jobs, they wouldn’t need an extension on unemployment.

      So tell me again how great he is.

      • 2 votes
      #1.91 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:27 AM EDT

      I said instated, but for those programs I meant "propagated". He expanded these programs.

      Oh, sure, that makes sense. Obama is just going to magically raise taxes for himself to set an example. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. He couldn't do that if he wanted to. And, no, he aims towards a higher tax rate for the wealthy; not tax-rate fairness. But, I would be willing to see a bona fide source that makes this claim.

      "why he needs an unemployment extension is because he has stifled the job market. If those people could find jobs, they wouldn't need an extension on unemployment."

      Can you back up your claim? Saying that he stifled the job market is preposterous. We are in a major economic downturn. It's getting better now, but it takes a long time for the effects of a depression to subside. You know what the unemployment was during the Great Depression? 25 percent. Sure, everything would be wonderful if everyone could find jobs. But, that's not the way reality works, and that's why he has unemployment benefit extensions. I suppose you want to blame him for the economic tumble too, right?

      It's like saying, "the only reason Roosevelt's New Deal is necessary is because he has stifled the job market. If the millions of unemployed could only find jobs, people would not need his New Deal programs."

      Sure, that makes a lot of sense..

        #1.92 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:39 AM EDT

        All I read is people sticking up for Obama blaming Bush. Bush hasn't been around for over 3 years. Why hasn't anything improved? Why has it gotten worse? Bush hasn't been here to make it worse. Obama could have let the patriot act go away. Could have brought all the troops home. He could have done so much, instead he decided to spend us into eternal debt. I'm not impressed, and Bush didn't do it.

        • 1 vote
        #1.93 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:26 AM EDT

        magicman in the sky

        3 posts above I said, "we earned are money". I meant to say "our". Sorry about the typo.

        It's clearly understood, you liberals make mistakes all the time, I'm quite use to it, and I'm certain others in here are too. FWIW, please explain your definition "Earn".... does that include money contribution through tough liberal luncheon and diner gatherings? or money garnered through effort. sweat and hard work? I'm of the opinion that there is a difference, but suspect you believe these are the same.

          #1.94 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

          JJ-johnnyreb2874187

          All I read is people sticking up for Obama blaming Bush. Bush hasn't been around for over 3 years. Why hasn't anything improved? Why has it gotten worse? Bush hasn't been here to make it worse. Obama could have let the patriot act go away. Could have brought all the troops home. He could have done so much, instead he decided to spend us into eternal debt. I'm not impressed, and Bush didn't do it.

          Let me help you.... because you're clearly out of touch with reality. You see my long lost Radical Conservative friend, both Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. occupied the same piece of Washington DC Real Estate, and such being the case, there still exist the essence of Bush'ness in the White House... and "Essence" is all a liberal needs to assert that a real presence still exists. Do you get it now? My god man!!!! This is Liberal Politics 101.

          ANd don't you remember, everything was clearly on the road to recovery until, dag nabit, those darn republicans garnished enough seats in the Nov. 2010 Election to construct a road block.... and that's when it all started to go wrong. Damit Man, don't you understand anything. Now repeat after me, Obama is good.... his redistribution of wealth has worked everywhere in the world that it has ever been practiced. All socialist countries have been huge successes.

          And those record high fuel, grocery and ultily prices, that's not real, it isn't happening.... all is well, and getting better all the time.... oh, but you still have to pay for them. Stop watching Fox News, and tune in to CNN, HLN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and PBS for the real news at Liberals want you to believe it.

          There, I hope that helps.

          And to the guy who posted that Obama "Earned His Money", CHEERS!!! to you my friend. You Da Man!!! GoooooOBMAM!!

            #1.95 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

            PhantomBeast,

            You quote Harry Truman as if he is going to make you the hero of the blog, and Obama’s BFF. I don’t know how to break this to you chump, but your entire effort begs the question and is therefore, worthless claptrap.

            You see, just because Truman, the Liberal Democrat, says it isn’t socialism, that doesn’t mean it isn’t socialism; it only means that Harry Truman, the Liberal Democrat, says it isn’t socialism.

            And just because Truman, the Liberal Democrat, concocts a straw man argument about people calling a new flood control dam a socialist program, that doesn’t mean it’s a socialist program; it only means that Harry Truman, the Liberal Democrat, knows how to concoct a straw man argument to make people think that other people will say it’s a socialist program. Are you starting to feel stupid yet? No? Well you should.

            Harry goes on to whack together a few more straw man gems that you’re not only buying into, but you’re trying to turn around and sell to the readers. Sorry chump, we’re not as stupid as you are for buying into that crap in the first place.

            BTW loser, do you even know why socialism is inherently a bad idea for the American economy? I don’t expect you to respond, but I just thought I’d ask…………LMAO

              #1.96 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:04 PM EDT

              @ Duphas: "FWIW, please explain your definition "Earn".... does that include money contribution through tough liberal luncheon and diner gatherings? or money garnered through effort. sweat and hard work? I'm of the opinion that there is a difference, but suspect you believe these are the same."

              Perhaps going through 13 years of school to become a physician, then continuing on to start an Anesthesia practice and run the business, while practicing medicine counts? Becoming successful is not easy, and some work harder than others to get there. I don't waste time at luncheons, however I do spend 20 weeks a year traveling with my family. Even with 20 weeks off, I still earn in the 99.5th percentile. But, that's a product of spending the first 30 some years of my life to get there.

              • 1 vote
              #1.97 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:15 PM EDT

              JoAnne in Pa,

              You have got to be kidding me. You are worried about kids in third world countries? You have got to be the biggest horse’s ass I’ve ever read. There are children right here in the United States who go hungry every night; are you worried about them?

              Get your priorities straight JoAnne. Nobodies kids come before the kids right here at home. They are our responsibility. The kids of the third world countries are the responsibilities of the governments of those countries. I’m sure the UN is doing it’s best to help them out, but the UN does not help us. We must do it on our own.

              The children of The United States of America come first. Everybody else comes in second.

              • 1 vote
              #1.98 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:32 PM EDT

              I said instated, but for those programs I meant "propagated". He expanded these programs.

              He did not!

              Oh, sure, that makes sense. Obama is just going to magically raise taxes for himself to set an example. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. He couldn't do that if he wanted to. And, no, he aims towards a higher tax rate for the wealthy; not tax-rate fairness. But, I would be willing to see a bona fide source that makes this claim.

              Yes, he could if he wanted to. So you don’t think he has an ulterior motive and is doing this to “help the poor people”

              President Obama’s secretary, Anita Decker Breckenridge, makes $95,000 a year. White House spokeswoman Amy Brundage tells ABC News that Breckenridge “pays a slightly higher rate this year on her substantially lower income, which is exactly why we need to reform our tax code and ask the wealthiest to pay their fair share. ”

              ****It should be noted that president would not be impacted by the Buffett Rule, though he would see his taxes go up if the so-called Bush tax cuts on higher income wage-earners were allowed to expire, as the president says he wants.****

              http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/president-obamas-secretary-paid-higher-tax-rate-than-he-did/

              So does that make him a hypocrite towards Buffett?

              "why he needs an unemployment extension is because he has stifled the job market. If those people could find jobs, they wouldn't need an extension on unemployment."

              Can you back up your claim? Saying that he stifled the job market is preposterous. We are in a major economic downturn.

              Didn’t he promise the unemployment rate would not go above 8%? Its never come down to 8%!

              http://moneymorning.com/2011/10/19/poll-misses-point-washington-and-wall-street-partners-in-blame-for-bad-u-s-economy/

              In fact, it's the sordid relationship between the U.S. government and the big financial institutions that plunged the U.S. economy into turmoil in 2008 and has hampered its recovery ever since.

              That Washington's efforts to fix the bad U.S. economy – very loose monetary policy on the part of the U.S. Federal Reserve and billions in stimulus spending from U.S. President Barack Obama and the U.S. Congress – have changed little is no doubt part of the reason why people remain disgruntled with government.

              How to Fix It

              Gilani had several suggestions on what should be done to make the system more fair as well as to prevent another financial crisis like we had in 2008:

              • Break up all the "too- big-to-fail" banks.
              • Regulate derivatives and determine what limitations need to be put on their use, by who, and when.
              • Reconvene the Glass Steagall Act. Make regulations simpler but make penalties stiffer -- including jail time.

              It will take a Republican president to change or abolish CRA, so firmly wedded to it is the Clinton administration and so powerfully does it serve Democratic Party interests. When Senator Gramm attacked the CRA for its role in funding advocacy groups and for the burden it imposes on banks, the Clinton administration fought back furiously, willing to let the crucial Financial Services Modernization Act, to which Gramm had attached his CRA changes, die, unless Gramm dropped demands that, for instance, CRA reviews become less frequent.

              In the end, Gramm, despite his key position as the chairman of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs (even the committee's name reflects a CRA consciousness) and his willingness to hold repeal of the Glass-Steagal Act hostage to CRA reform, could only manage to require community groups to make public their agreements with banks, disclosing the size of their loan commitments and fees.

              A new president should push for outright abolition of the CRA. Failing that, he could simply instruct the Treasury to roll back the compliance criteria to their more relaxed, pre-Clintonian level. But to make the case for repeal—and ensure that some future Democratic president couldn't simply reimpose Clinton's rules—he might test the basic premise of the Community Reinvestment Act: that the banking industry serves the rich, not the poor.

              http://www.city-journal.org/html/10_1_the_trillion_dollar.html

              **Do some research on Glass–Steagall Act and Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act

              Obama Sued Citibank Under CRA to Force it to Make Bad Loans: while researching Obama’s legal career. Looks like a typical ACORN lawsuit to get banks to hand out bad loans.

              In these lawsuits, ACORN makes a bogus claim of Redlining (denying poor people loans because of their ethnic heritage).

              So ultimately, Obama started the ball rolling on the housing collapse

                #1.99 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:48 PM EDT

                Fedup: I suggest you slim down your posts a bit. It's pretty absurd that you post so much material in one post and expect me to take the time to read it all, do some research, and come back with a response.

                Yes he did. He expanded welfare spending and extended unemployment. Look it up.

                I don't remember him promising that unemployment wouldn't go past 8%.

                It seems you are going off topic. Are you sure you aren't just pasting a previous comment from some other board onto this one? I'm not talking about "how to fix it". I'm talking about, "why it is irrational to blame Obama all the problems, when it is impossible to put the blame on one person." Pinning the blame of all the problems from the past 4 years is ridiculous. It likely wouldn't be any different if a different president had been elected.

                He shoulda, coulda, woulda etc... You are making speculations on how these problems were caused and how they could be "fixed". It's good you are thinking about this, but if you seriously think you are finding anything that the United States President and his countless advisers and analysts have missed, that's presumptuous and highly unlikely.

                • 2 votes
                #1.100 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:45 PM EDT

                UH-OH... I WAS NOT A BIRTHER TILL NOW

                Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.

                Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.

                Hill, of Genova, Burn & Giantomasi Attorneys in Newark, made a desperate motion to dismiss the ballot objection arguing that Obama’s lack of natural-born citizenship status was not relevant to being placed on the New Jersey presidential ballot because no law exists in New Jersey which says that a candidate’s appearance on the ballot must be supported by evidence of natural born citizenship status. Only the U.S. constitution restricts eligibility to hold the office of president to natural born citizens.

                Judge Masin denied the motion to dismiss and the case proceeded to trial. WATCH THE TRIAL WHILE YOU CAN.. The Obama team is going to court again quikly in a seperate case to have this media blocked..

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OwmfisorUcc#!


                  #1.101 - Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

                  Who cares about spoons anymore.. Are you even an AMERICAN?

                  Rather than provide a document of birth,, your claim is Micky Mouse can be President... WOW... I am a birther now too.... Watch the Obama lawyer say it.... MICKY MOUSE FOR PRESIDENT IS THE NEW OBAMA SLOGAN FOR REAL CHANGE

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRcQcgiVf9I

                    #1.102 - Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

                    Care4mycountry, here is a response to one of your previous posts:

                    "Careformycountry:

                    Did you even watch part of the legal proceedings?? If you did, you would notice immediately how weak the prosecutions is! Within 2nd video you pasted in your comment, the lawyer brings up a picture of Obama from some birther website online, where it is labeled as Hussane Obama, or however you spell that. He thinks that is EVIDENCE that can be used in court! However, an image taken from a website online that has no qualification is not evidence. People can put anything online. There is no foundation, evidence, or support to back the prosecution. In other words, this trial is a JOKE! It is pathetic. And, you are pathetic for even posting the links, as though the court is even worth anyone's time. The prosecution was dominated by "Obama's lawyer" throughout the entire proceedings. And, no, Alexandra did not "admit" anything. Look up your facts, buddy, before you make yourself look like an idiot. Finally, Alexandra defeated the opposition. Obama is the President of the United States. Stop whining, and get over it already!

                    Idiot."

                    I don't even think that this trial even involved Obama, or if he hired the lawyer. The president doesn't waste his time with ridiculous claims such as those made by the opposition. So, something seems fishy about this trial.

                      #1.103 - Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

                      Birthers. They're giving stupid a bad name.

                      • 1 vote
                      #1.104 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:09 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      Gee... any idea who President Obama is referring to? lol

                      I believe it was more then likely a platinum spoon & an 18K gold rattle in each hand!

                      Godspeed to Dick Clark - New Year's Eve will never be the same! ;o(

                      • 71 votes
                      #2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:06 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      Oh yeah Feisty he's hardcore, old school of hard knocks.

                      You know pulled himself up by his bootstraps and all.

                      That is how they do it at Harvard, right?

                      Say, when is he gonna start talking about all the 'wonderful' accomplishments his administration has done?

                      What's with all the class warfare crap there chief? Come on - Ivy league schools, a wife pulling down fat stacks [not like many make $300k per year], book sales through the roof.

                      Nope, a guy raking in the cash, coming from that really needs to let go of the silver spoon thing.

                      Especially Obama. Now let's hear all about them 'shovel ready jobs', stimulus, green energy investments, and the totally fantastic Health Care Law.

                      Now what's for dinner - dog or horse meat? ;)

                      • 68 votes
                      #2.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

                      If you have listened to conservatives/right wing/tea partiers for the past few years, you will notice that they all share something in common - they are negative about everything in this country. Everything. And everybody.

                      They are hateful people who have no desire to lift a finger for anyone but themselves.

                      When I think back to when this all started, during the Bush Administration, never once do I recall one thoughtful conservative asking us to come together and work to fix what needed broken.

                      They just became violent and racist, together with cutting programs that helped those who needed it the most.

                      That was their answer.

                      And Romney THANKS FOX for being fair and balanced to him. FOX? Is he kidding? FOX?

                      He doesn't want to be challenged. He doesn't get it. We're only taking his own words and putting them out there for all to see.

                      • 68 votes
                      #2.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

                      Now what's for dinner - dog or horse meat? ;)

                      When you are a child, it's whatever mom and dad provide.

                      • 39 votes
                      #2.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:19 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      Wrong again Pat - we are very positive about money.

                      We just prefer to keep as much of it as we can.

                      But I do so love your historical perspective - it all started under Bush, eh?

                      That is hilarious.

                      Pat - is is racist that Obama's kids go to a hoity toity private school?

                      You are aware of the ethnic makeup of the DC public school system, no?

                      • 37 votes
                      #2.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:20 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      Bryan - go grill up some meat. Serve it to your kids and tell them it's dog.

                      Yeah, they eat it, sure they will.

                      You all are super fun and amusing.

                      Dude ate dog. You cannot get around that. We know it's really important, cause you all keep wanting to talk about Seamus.

                      • 16 votes
                      #2.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

                      I never realized i was advocating the act. And by comparison shouldn't we be railing against the ADULT who made the decision to serve dog, as Mitt the ADULT made the decision to put his dog on the roof of a car?

                      Obama, as a child, i'm sure said "Ummm, Ummm. I wanna eat me some dog!". In contrast, however, Mitt as an adult said "F the dog. Put him on the roof."

                      Again, false equivalency. Nice try though. You must have worked really hard on that one.

                      • 45 votes
                      #2.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

                      Wow Spanky, you are unabashedly proud of your greed. Most people would call that a poor character trait, but you wear it like a medal. You are one of those people who must have an ever shrinking circle of friends. Do people like you, or your money?

                      • 46 votes
                      #2.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

                      Did Willard have student loans to repay for his Harvard Education?

                      Doubt it!

                      • 35 votes
                      #2.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:30 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      And yet we have the horse meat bill.

                      ButI hear you - a guy's got to eat.

                      But hey good to know that your kids eat everything you give them.

                      Great job on that.

                      Uh chilled - did either of the Obamas? Come on, you know this one.

                      Great point. I love that you all spit out crap like this with out ever even trying to think it through.

                      How about this - do the Obama's have to pay for the daughters' edu

                      • 10 votes
                      #2.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

                      But hey good to know that your kids eat everything you give them.

                      Great job on that.

                      Awww. Thanks Spanky. See i can also be responsible as a liberal.

                      • 24 votes
                      #2.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

                      I wouldn't think Republicans would want to talk about dogs when it is Mitt Romney that straps them to the top of his car for transcontinental touring.

                      • 35 votes
                      #2.11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:42 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      And of course as such you will stay away from Happy Meals, right Bryan?

                      Me, I'm all over the Jack in the Box, 2 for $.99 tacos. My 16 year old eats 18 at a sitting.

                      • 8 votes
                      #2.12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:46 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarelliot-3020456Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      Was it before or after eating dog meat that Obama grew up on mercer island???

                      For those non WA folks that's also where Bill Gates lives. No silver Spoon, My ass, What a pathological liar he is.

                      • 18 votes
                      #2.13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:48 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarcare4mycountry,mychildren,myparentsExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      Obama got rich off of being a career politician.. He don't serve the country as something special and extra.. They way public service was to be held as a precious EXTRA service... Obama takes the pay and his door to the lobby is always wide open.. Look at the books of the banks reports under donations and see how much each quarter they gave to buy him.. Slimy career politicians.. YUCK..

                      Ron Paul for President. He wants to only be paid the average median income wage of 32,000 dollars.

                      HIS DOOR has been shut to every lobby for 40 years as thats not how are country is supposed to work.

                      He also wants us to support him (when he doles out his signature to spend) and slash the pay of all politicians to the same median income.. He says publicly, If politicians would want a raise, they would have to work to increase the PEOPLES pay.

                      • 9 votes
                      #2.14 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

                      Bill Gates does not live on Mercer Island, WA; he lives in Medina, WA.

                      • 11 votes
                      #2.15 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

                      Ya gotta love the Romney apologists. But what does he think about you, conservatives?

                      He doesn't know you, doesn't care about you, won't lift a finger to help you. Get a clue . . . he loved his dog, and yet he tied him to the roof of the car. What chance do you think you'll have with him making decisions that impact your life? Get a clue.

                      It's especially humorous to see the phony outrage over his "stay-at-home-wife." Yeah, she's just like every other billionaire homemaker. What, with her multiple homes sitting there with their caretakers, and all the effort she puts into raising her kids and their inheritances. Thank god we're a nation of royalty. Oops, did I get that wrong?

                      • 30 votes
                      #2.16 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

                      care4 - In the years when Obama made over a million dollars, most of that money came from royalties on his books, not from his political career.

                      • 29 votes
                      #2.17 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

                      LOL Mercer Island isn't really what I would call 'old money/ silver spoon' territory anyways.

                      Just a lot of hard working people whose dedication has paid off and rewarded them with a nice lifestyle.

                      • 14 votes
                      #2.18 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:01 PM EDT

                      Spanky

                      Especially Obama. Now let's hear all about them 'shovel ready jobs'

                      You were just on here a few months ago telling the OWS crowd to "go get a job".

                      Now you complain that Obama did not create jobs.

                      So which is it? Did Obama create jobs that the OWS crowd now needs to "go out and get"? Or did Obama fail at creating jobs and there are none for the OWS crowd?

                      Jesus Christ, man... you can not even stay consistent with your own insults.

                      I'm straight out of the trailer park my man.

                      Why am I not surprised?

                      • 34 votes
                      #2.19 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:05 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarJH-479998Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      When will President Obama quit lying to us? I haven't heard any Republican say that they wanted to cut his taxes. That is a lie., they just don't want to raise them. Rich people don't pay less than the average American in income taxes. that is a lie. They pay a much higher percentage. He says is isn't redistribution. That is a lie. Tax the rich more to "invest" in the poor is redistribution.

                      Pat in Boston

                      Conservatives are negative about the progressive movement in this country. So are the majority of all Americans. the elections of 2010 told us that. It is a proven FACT that conservatives give to charities to help people in far greater amounts then left wingers. That is far better than giving it to progressives in the form of taxes to be wasted. And when I think back to the Bush administration days I certainly remember the hate from the left in this country. It started the day Bush WON THE ELECTION. Let me ask you something, if the Bush administration screwed everything up so bad, where the hell were the democrats at the time? Listening to all the left wing idiots in this country it is a proven fact that a minority party can stop everything a majority party wants to do. Where were the dems trying to stop all the bad policy? I'll tell you, they were right there helping to pass policy. Both parties have made mistakes in the past and now we have to get rid of the biggest mistake this country has ever made.

                      One

                      Big

                      Ass

                      Mistake

                      America

                      1/20/2013 - the end of an error

                      Bill - As a conservative, I'll take a chance that Romney cares more about me than Obama. President Obama has not hidden the fact that he hates my kind.

                      • 24 votes
                      #2.20 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:05 PM EDT

                      CARE4

                      If Obama got rich off being a career politician, he must not be too rich because he's not that old, and his political life hasn't been that long. Plus you forget, the first lady has held a few Giant Salaried positions.

                      Mitch Mcconnell, John Boehner, and all the Old Rich White Repubs got rich from politics, that's why they hate change so much. It cuts into their Pockets and they don't want to give it up.

                      • 31 votes
                      #2.21 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:08 PM EDT

                      Heartlight,

                      And yet, he only paid what he was REQUIRED to pay in taxes. Nothing more?? I would think that someone who is advocating for paying his "fair" share (like Buffet) would have kicked more into the pot. Way to lead by example!

                      • 12 votes
                      #2.22 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:08 PM EDT

                      Well, Spanky, I'll give you this much: at least you and your reactionary cronies are consistent: consistently greedy, consistently heartless, consistently narrowminded, consistently dogmatic, consistently nasty...and consistenly wrong! Congratulations!

                      President Obama doesn't even need to campaign. With "advocates" like you, Mitt will defeat himself.

                      Keep up the good work.

                      • 36 votes
                      #2.23 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

                      Shades of Ann Richards of Texas! Ann Richards was right and so is president Obama!

                      • 14 votes
                      #2.24 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:15 PM EDT

                      I never realized i was advocating the act. And by comparison shouldn't we be railing against the ADULT who made the decision to serve dog, as Mitt the ADULT made the decision to put his dog on the roof of a car?

                      At least the dog lived!

                      Lovely rants btw Spanky hahah.

                      • 8 votes
                      #2.25 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

                      oh no...No silver spoon you say? how sad...get out the tissues

                      • 5 votes
                      #2.26 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

                      JK...

                      Do you notice how Warren Buffet is rich...pays his taxes acoording to the law...and says he wishes he could could pay more, but doesn't...and gets treated like a hero by Mr. Obama's supporters...even while he is in court, fighting the government on one of his entity's taxes.

                      And I'm surprised the president isn't tongue-kissing the old dude at fundraisers.

                      Mitt Romney is rich...pays his taxes according to the law and shuts his mouth about it...and is villified by Mr. Obama's supporters.

                      Strange world.

                      If Mr. Romney said he agreed with Buffet that folks like them should pay a higher tax rate...he'd still be villified by Mr. Obama's supporters...while they were applauding the liplock going on between the presient and the old rich geezer who wants to pay more, but doesn't.

                      • 13 votes
                      #2.27 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:22 PM EDT

                      JH-479998:

                      Listening to all the left wing idiots in this country it is a proven fact that a minority party can stop everything a majority party wants to do. Where were the dems trying to stop all the bad policy?

                      Maybe they didn't filibuster everything under the sun because they weren't petulant children?

                      • 18 votes
                      #2.28 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:25 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatargoldcoast007Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      There are plenty of recommendations on how to get out of trouble cheaply and fast. Most of them come down to this: Deny your responsibility.

                      -Lyndon B. Johnson

                      When is President Obama going to take responsibility into his own hands and not blame his predecessor? He is more than halfway pass his four year term and still blaming others. It is starting to get embarrassing and turning voters away from him. I am an independent (voted for President Obama the last election but I can't see myself voting for him this time). Man Up President Obama and there is a possibility you could change my mind.

                      • 8 votes
                      #2.29 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:27 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarConcern Citizen-856329Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      To: Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL who always manages to post #1, this time #2. WOW girl, how do you do it?

                      "Gee... any idea who President Obama is referring to? lolI believe it was more then likely a platinum spoon & an 18K gold rattle in each hand!Godspeed to Dick Clark - New Year's Eve will never be the same! ;o("

                      Yee! Girlfriend I guess John F Kennedy was not the good President and loved by all Left and right since he was also born with a platinum spoon. Not to mix two stories I ate dog in China when I was a little girl.

                      • 7 votes
                      #2.30 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:29 PM EDT

                      Hate to break it to you Rudy, but Ann Richards was a drunk. Yeah, her alcoholic quip about Bush was a cutesy little sound bite that libtards will forever cherish in their memories .... but her alcoholism does not give her a great deal of credibility to anyone with RATIONAL comprehension.

                      John Kennedy also had a "silver spoon" from all the money his dad Joe made as a bootlegger ..... yeah, running booze during prohibition against the law !

                      • 9 votes
                      #2.31 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:29 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarSkornedExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      When is President Obama going to take responsibility into his own hands and not blame his predecessor?

                      You will never hear O'bama say, "the buck stops here" EVER

                      • 11 votes
                      #2.32 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

                      Mom...

                      Mrs. Obama's career took off when he was elected to the Illinois State Senate. That's what happens to spouses of politicians...all of a sudden they can get appointments and sit on boards, should they wish too.

                      And are those "Old Rich White Repub" politicians any different from old, rich democrat Politicians, white or not, like Chris Dodd, Charlie Rangel, and Joe Biden ??? I think not.

                      Nobody goes broke becoming a politician elected to office.

                      • 6 votes
                      #2.33 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

                      jim...

                      You are absolutely right about Ann Richards, but to many here, being a Democrat politician makes it OK to be a bitter old drunk.

                      • 3 votes
                      #2.34 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:33 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarColorado-ManExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      That's right - no silver spoons in Kenya...

                      • 7 votes
                      #2.35 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

                      @HIGHLIGHT.... I consider Rupert Murdochs book money back door pay.. How many times will you keep letting it happen? At least the Btritts are trying to stop him, but our leaders turn a blind eye and keep the other eye on his paycheck to them!!! Now explain the rest will you.

                      • 3 votes
                      #2.36 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

                      Want the true story of $$ Obama's upbringing and the way he treats others?

                      Obama's former nanny now lives in a Jakarta slum...

                      http://now.msn.com/living/0305-obama-transgender-nanny.aspx

                      • 3 votes
                      #2.37 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

                      Elliot with the numbers....Bill Gates does not live on Mercer Island. A pathological liar implies that the individual in question does not realize that they are lying. Did you realize you were lying?

                      • 6 votes
                      #2.38 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:42 PM EDT

                      Ash Plisskin

                      A political party that doesn't fillibuster what they see is wrong for the country are either cowards or just too stupid to be in elected office. That is why the Democrats have no business saying that the republicans are to blame for everything. They must have liked what they didn't object to. Or are the cowards? I know they're stupid.

                      • 3 votes
                      #2.39 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

                      but Ann Richards was a drunk

                      As long as we're talking about drunks - Jan Brewer IS a drunk!

                      • 12 votes
                      #2.40 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

                      trollopolooza - the idiots are out in force today. Must not have jobs . Spanky, how'd you get that name? No, I don't want to know.

                      • 11 votes
                      #2.41 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

                      It is a proven FACT that conservatives give to charities to help people in far greater amounts then left wingers.

                      Does putting the word "fact" in all caps suddenly make whatever piece of bull-sh** you pull out of your a$$ truthful?

                      I was not aware of that rule, but I like it. I think I will play that game too...

                      "It is a proven FACT that conservatives pleasure themselves to the thought of poor people dying."

                      I like this game.

                      • 18 votes
                      #2.42 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

                      Obama might not have been born with a silver spoon in his mouth, but Romney didn't have a transgender Indonesian nanny. So I think they are even.

                      • 5 votes
                      #2.43 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

                      “Understand, this is not a redistribution argument," Obama said. "This is not about taking form rich people to give to poor people. This is about us together making investments in our country so everybody’s got a fair shot."

                      And, when arguing that government-subsidized community-college training programs were vehicles for economic growth, he said, “These investments are not part of some grand scheme to redistribute wealth, they’ve been made by Democrats and Republicans for generations, because they benefit all of us.”

                      We keep trying to get this throught the thick sculls of the FOX Noise "true believers," but alas, brain washing is difficult to correct. Speaking of which...

                      IndieParty -- Don't try reasoning with a steaming pile of troll.

                      Where do you right-wingers get the BS about the president not taking responsibility? President Obama takes repsonsibility all the time, and is way more honest, for example calling the 2010 election a shellacking. Romney, now there's someone completely lacking leadership, humility, and civility -- He can't rise above the riff-raff whether Limbaugh or Ted Nugent. The man is not fit to lead the US and the free world.

                      • 13 votes
                      #2.44 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

                      JH and Spanky are just more proof that that when Republicans know they are wrong, they just start making stuff up, just like Ted Nuggent, pure ignorant paranoia.

                      • 15 votes
                      #2.45 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

                      I olived on Mercer Island for 13years. They are the bigest bunch of A^&*holes in exsistance. They think they are better than anyone else. Really high end Snobs. A real group of want to be's

                      • 5 votes
                      #2.46 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:00 PM EDT

                      Pat Boston MA.

                      You wrote: “If you have listened to conservatives/right wing/tea partiers for the past few years, you will notice that they all share something in common - they are negative about everything in this country. Everything. And everybody.”

                      Pat, are you trying to tell us that it’s OK to be negative as long as you’re talking about the Republican/conservatives/right wing/Tea Partiers? If that’s your message then you’re living in Bizarro-world. And when you start spouting off about hateful people, you sound like a newly appointed apparatchik making his initial speech to the proletariat. Comrade, take a pill; you’re starting to babble.

                      You wrote: “never once do I recall one thoughtful conservative asking us to come together and work to fix what needed broken.”

                      Please explain why a conservative would try “to fix what needed broken?” Also, please explain the correlation between being violent and racist, and “cutting programs that helped those who needed it the most.”

                      Do you have any proof to support your argument that conservative Republicans in the Bush Administration were violent and racist? Please cite your sources?

                      Do you have any proof to support your argument that conservative Republicans in the Bush Administration never lifted a finger for anyone but themselves? Please cite your sources?

                      You complain that Mr. Romney isn’t fair and balanced, do you have any proof to support this argument? And can you please define for the reader what you believe fair and balanced means?

                      So far, the only person who doesn’t seem to get it is you, but the readers will have to wait for you to answer my questions to determine whether or not you get it.

                      We are waiting.

                      • 2 votes
                      #2.47 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

                      Will PETA and the Humane Society stop financing Obama's campaign for eat his best friend?

                      • 3 votes
                      #2.48 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

                      Fed up stated:

                      "I olived on Mercer Island for 13years. They are the bigest bunch of A^&*holes in exsistance. They think they are better than anyone else. Really high end Snobs. A real group of want to be's"

                      Mercer Island is one of the few areas in the Puget Sound region that predominately votes Republican...and fed-up just described the Republican party to a "T".

                      • 9 votes
                      #2.49 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

                      Arkius,

                      Great post! But I'm afraid that you are wasting your time asking for someone like Pat to respond to you. The bulk of this person's posts are just meaningless ramblings...no substance, no fact. Actually very ironic as they claim to be citing fact, yet they never ever post a link...

                      • 1 vote
                      #2.50 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:04 PM EDT

                      Spanky! WOW!!

                      Man, I've been around some disgruntled, pathetic, sour-puss, hating, misguided, cynical, obtuse, rednecks in my life, but you take the cake. I truly feel sorry for anyone that has to deal with you on a day-to-day basis.

                      I think you're so obsessed with Obama that you’re either jealous or probably masturbate to his picture. Why else would anyone hop on the lamest excuse just to talk about a person (like blame a child for what his parents do?!?)?

                      For your sake, you'd better hope Obama sticks around for a good many years. He seems to be your reason for existing. Are you Gay, by any chance??

                      • 7 votes
                      #2.51 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

                      Ummmmm. didn't you already post that?

                        #2.52 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:06 PM EDT

                        @Indie: I lost the last gulp of my coffee on that! Worth the cleanup!

                        • 5 votes
                        #2.53 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:30 PM EDT

                        @Feisty

                        It's astounding how hateful the cons are this evening. Sounds like they're a little jealous of the President and Michelle. Must suck that they made something of themselves and most of them posting didn't. They make up for it by saying that he and Michelle had it handed to them. Yeah, right.

                        When I was in Vietnam I ate dog, cat and monkey. Not my cup of tea but if you live in a third world country and dog's all you have, well that's what you eat. So all you purveyors of hate, pound salt. But for the grace of God so go you.

                        • 13 votes
                        #2.54 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:34 PM EDT

                        It's astounding how hateful the cons are this evening.

                        Dennis - do NOT underestimate them - they are just getting warmed up!

                        They have come to the conclusion - it is ALL slipping away from them, thus, they are very angry little birds...

                        • 10 votes
                        #2.55 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:09 PM EDT

                        I haven't heard any Republican say that they wanted to cut his taxes.
                        That is a lie., they just don't want to raise them.

                        Your ears must be plugged. The Ryan Plan cuts taxes on the wealthy. Romney, Santorum and Gingrich all have proposed tax cuts, including cuts to "unearned income" rates and reductions in the top tax rates. The Cain "999" plan was a huge tax cut for the rich (and a tax hike on the working poor, but they don't count in Republican circles). And Ron Paul wants to eliminate income tax altogether, that has to count as a "tax cut".

                        But you're right about not wanting to raise taxes, that's one area they differ from Reagan and Bush Sr. They talk a good game about "balancing the budget", but they'd never increase the tax revenues enough to ever do that.

                        • 6 votes
                        #2.56 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:26 PM EDT

                        Excuse me Feisty.. your allegation that Governor Jan Brewer is a drunk is enticing and perhaps a bit titillating. Can you offer some empirical evidence that your 'rumor' is true?

                        • 2 votes
                        #2.57 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:20 PM EDT

                        Pat and exactly who is it that tried to hang Zimmerman on edited audio tapes? The left wing... who also is it that is dividing this country into jagged chunks of classes and inciting hatred? The left wing whitehouse. Who is it that is wasting all of our tax dollars so fast they don't even know where they are wasting it? The left wing. Who is it that operates outside of any budget? The left wing. Who is it who pays off their buddies corrupt companies? The left wing. Who is it that let's guns into criminals and drug gangs hands to kill our own in the name of creating a horrible anti gun campaign on the sly but get's caught in the setup? The left wing. Gee I see so many reasons for reasonable concious Americans with a clue how to think for themselves to be positive about bringing anyone together. Who is it exactly that is trying to recall a governor because they think they are too good to have to forgoe a pay raise in Wisconsin oh yeah it's the holier than thou left wing... once again. Yeah let's all get together and make it right. Only if you vote right at this point will anything be corrected.

                        • 2 votes
                        #2.58 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:21 AM EDT

                        Where is your proof that the Zimmerman tapes were edited? Experts have listened to the voice screaming for help, and concluded it wasn't Zimmerman's voice. How do you edit the actual voice?

                        The only reason we have so-called class warfare? Republican tax policies, which have resulted in the wealthiest getting richer ever faster, while the rest of us have stagnant or less personal wealth. Many more living in poverty.......can you blame the 99% for being angry?

                        Same for the people of Wisconsin, who want Walker recalled because he went too far in stripping the public employee union's collective bargaining rights. By the way, these employees were willing to take pay and benefit cuts, just not the loss of their collective bargaining rights. Walker refused. Who does he think he is, king of WI? The people have a right to recall anyone who fails to represent their interests.

                        As for your other rants, since you always see the left wing as Darth Vader, well.........let's just say the right wing has a lot to answer for, and they will come November.

                        • 6 votes
                        #2.59 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:13 AM EDT

                        It is amazing that if somebody dares to site a news source, any news source-literally any on the planet, aside from MSN newsfeed of course or MSNBC.....well, they are being brainwashed by liars and cheats and there is simply no reasoning with them......Now if you consider MSNBC vs all other news feeds in the world, what percentage of news would that be?????? And isnt' it kind of silly to assume that such a small percentage is automatically the authority on every single item and issue in the news today????? Who is actually brainwashed?

                          #2.60 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:00 AM EDT

                          GW Bush was a slobbering alcoholic. No secret there. Yet you all adored him. Water does tend to seek it's own level.

                          • 3 votes
                          #2.61 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

                          Gosh, now I feel bad. I never had any student loans to pay for my college degree, both of them. My parents and I recognized that "student aid" even back in the sixties really meant "debt aid." My parents and I had saved pennies to buy Savings Bonds that paid for my first degree. My dad made $100 per week working as a dental technician and could not contribute very much to the process; hence, the pennies.I also worked in a grocery store to help with tuition and pay for my incidentals.

                          For my second degree, my wife and I both worked our backsides off: she worked fulltime, I worked more than 30 hours a week, and we paid for 2 degree programs simultaneously.

                          Nothing was handed to either one of us and we both want to keep what we have earned to pay for our retirement, not so that a mother of 6 by 11 different unknown fathers can draw down welfare and do drugs while her mother raises the grandchildren alone.

                          Working for a living is honorable. When our country got away from this and people started feeling like Uncle Sugar had to pay for everything, we got way too far off in the weeds. I am not positive that we will ever be able to find our way back from the dark side and become a truly productive nation again.

                          • 1 vote
                          #2.62 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

                          Hey, look what Ifound...

                          1500 millionairs don't pay Federal Income Taxes:

                          http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/1500-millionaires-pay-income-tax/story?id=14242254

                          • 1 vote
                          #2.63 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:40 PM EDT

                          Many countries eat dog meat. Even the American Plains tribes thought puppy stew was the greatest as it was strictly reserved for special occasions. Many Oriental countries eat dogs on a regular basis. I remember the ASPCA had a petition out to prevent dogs from being eaten in Korea when I was younger.

                          As the world's population grows, there will be more animal species eaten that are not normally eaten today. You may even see cannibalism make a comeback.

                          • 2 votes
                          #2.64 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

                          Jenny you really need to get off the kool aid and listen to real news. You edit Zimmerman by leaving off the chunks of tape that have the police asking him the color of the man. No your leftist group leaves that out so they can whip up a racist fury for ratings and get Obama and every other organizer to organize a racist war against a guy protecting himself. You all pass judgement so fast you can't reverse yourselves when you know your wrong because your to idiotic to admit mistakes. Yes November can't come quickly enough. Another four years of this administration and we will have no rights.... you feel sorry for your union brothers in Wisconsin???? You aint seen nothing yet, your just getting into the web and you haven't even seen what your doing to yourselves yet.. It aint gonna be pretty... OK so now have fun and tell me my grammar is bad for using the word aint.

                          • 1 vote
                          #2.65 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:06 PM EDT

                          Spanky-

                          And of course as such you will stay away from Happy Meals, right Bryan?

                          Me, I'm all over the Jack in the Box, 2 for $.99 tacos. My 16 year old eats 18 at a sitting.

                          Well at least Bryan doesn't fatten his own kids up like pigs getting ready for slaughter like you do spanky. You are the definition of a bad parent by doing that bud.

                          • 2 votes
                          #2.66 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:38 AM EDT

                          Shockedanddisgusted,

                          You wrote: "A pathological liar implies that the individual in question does not realize that they are lying. Did you realize you were lying?"

                          Using your logic then, a pathological ashhole would be a person, like you for instance, who goes about their daily life without realizing that they are indeed an ashhole. Did you realize that you were behaving like an ashhole?

                            #2.67 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:45 PM EDT

                            Fed up, what kind of creepy weirdo says "namby pamby?"

                            Getting back to your comments, I don't think the problem was that the other people on Mercer Island were a bunch of ashholes; I think the problem was that they were normal, and you were the ashhole.

                            You say you lived there for 13 years, didn't you make any friends? The average income for residents of the Island is in the neighborhood of $160,000 annually, and that isn't a large income. I don't know where you get "high end Snobs" from, but there are families of four on Mercer Island that are making $160k a year and they are struggling to make ends meet. I think anyone reading my comments with a family of four; will tell you that earning $160k a year is no great shakes.

                            They are struggling to save enough money to send their kids to universities commensurate with their highschool grades. They are two income households, with one good car and one clunker. These people don't think they are better then anyone else, they don't have time for that foolishness. In fact, I've never met a Republican or a Tea Party member who thinks along the lines that you assign them. The Republicans and Tea Party folks I know, live in the same kind of surburban neighborhoods that everyone else does.

                            You think you know the face of the Republican Party? The live in 60 and 70 year old expandable Cape Cod houses, with bad lawns, and sidewalks that need repair. They repair their work cars in their driveways like everyone else. They drink beer with their neighbors in backyard barbecues, and tell off color jokes, and watch baseball during the summer, and football during the winter.

                            You think you know the face of the Tea Party? They are volunteer fireman, and fulltime policeman, they collect our garbage, and trim our trees. They repair our cars; they unclog our toilets; they find the shorts in our electrical wiring, they get their hand dirty, so we can keep ours clean. They are our friends and neighbors.

                            The only thing they wanna be is a respected part of the communities they live and work in, and not have to put up with neurotic pigs like you who spread lies about them through ignorance and fear. These folks don't think they're better then everyone else, they ARE everyone else.

                            I think the readers realize that people like you, and shockedanddisgusted, and IndieParty, and TruePatriot, are out of touch with reality. You're trying to sell hatred disguised as experience and knowledge wraped in elitist, socialist rhetoric. We listen to your demagoguery and we smile. We know that if you have to employ lies and innuendo to connect with people, then you no longer have truth on your side. We know that if you can't argue a point without resorting to ad hominem attacks, then you no longer have a point to argue.

                            We know you've shot your bolt; your energy's spent; you have nothing left but snide remarks and empty dialog. You have met your Waterloo; everyone sees it, and everyone knows what it means, but you remain in denial. It is a pity. Obama is a pathetic corpse.

                            And you are irrelevant.

                            • 1 vote
                            #2.68 - Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:39 AM EDT
                            Reply

                            'I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth'

                            But he's got one now. Geez, how out of touch can this imbecile be?

                            Oh, and btw, neither was Romney born with one.

                            • 34 votes
                            #3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:07 PM EDT

                            RO, you're mixing up Romney SR and Romney JR. Romney SR was the self made man, Romney JR was the privileged scion.

                            • 35 votes
                            #3.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

                            Really Amy?

                            So your saying Romney didn't earn that money?

                            SO Amy, pretty neat that Obama paid a lower tax rate than his secretary, eh?

                            Dirty rotten 1%-er.

                            • 29 votes
                            #3.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

                            [George] Romney was director of the American Trade Association Executives in 1944 and 1947, and managing director of the National Automobile Golden Jubilee Committee in 1946. From 1946 to 1949, he represented U.S. employers as a delegate to the Metal Trades Industry conference of the International Labor Office.

                            Really?? You are calling the kids of this guy born with a silver spoon??? You have a twisted sense of "self-made men". George Romney was a working man's man.

                            Mitt was born March 12, 1947.

                            • 18 votes
                            #3.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

                            Dirty rotten 1%-er.

                            Who speaks publicly about it, and doesn't want more tax cuts because he knows they amount to -ZERO- economic growth. Sure, i'll buy into that Spanky, thanks for pointing that out.

                            • 19 votes
                            #3.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

                            George Romney was a working man's man.

                            Too bad his son wasn't/isn't.

                            • 24 votes
                            #3.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

                            So Bryan - who has spent more time working at a job - Obama or Mitt?

                            YOu ever even seen a time card, w-2, 1099 or anything else evidencing a non political job held by obama?

                            Oh and maybe Feisty can update us on how those massive tax cuts are going in her fine and deep blue state?

                            Feisty - you all still circling the toilet?

                            • 27 votes
                            #3.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:29 PM EDT

                            Spanky,

                            Never said a word about Obama. We're talking about Mitt. Keep up old boy.

                            • 15 votes
                            #3.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

                            Too bad his son wasn't/isn't.

                            Too bad Barack wasn't/isn't, too. He's a 1 percenter filling his right pocket from his Wall Street buddies and his left pocket from Union leaders.

                            • 17 votes
                            #3.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

                            IrrationalOne-#'s,

                            We're talking about Mitt. Keep up old boy.

                            • 10 votes
                            #3.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

                            I see the RepublCONs are projecting again accusing Obama of being Romney. President Obama was born a black man in America and made his money against all odds. Romney had a rich, famous daddy just like "W" Bush and he didn't have to earn anything the hard way as a rich, white, privileged kid. Hell, he went to high school at one of the best schools in the country and had Governor daddy on his resume.

                            • 14 votes
                            #3.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

                            Uh, Bryan - Dominico and Ali are talking about Obama.

                            It's kinda what the article is about boss.

                            You did read the article, yes?

                            Bryan - is Mitt mentioned in the article at all?

                            • 13 votes
                            #3.11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

                            We're talking about Mitt. Keep up old boy.

                            I'm sorry, I didn't know you were schizophrenic and having a conversation with yourself. The rest of us are talking about Obama (including First Read) and about how he is now a 1 percenter.

                            Obama hasn't earned anything for himself. EVERYTHING was given to him (his education, his money, and his career - including the office of the president. He certainly wasn't the most qualified candidate on the Dem ticket in 2008).

                            • 14 votes
                            #3.12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:57 PM EDT

                            Born poor, and someone helped Obama out? That someone was the US taxpayer, and Obama is still on the taxpayer's dole. It will ever be until his final day breathing. Raised by a communist family, fathered by a communist father who only saw him a couple of times, and he worshiped, and patterned his life after that communist father. Whata man!

                            • 13 votes
                            #3.13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

                            PLEASE, tell me me what type of crack are you smoking and on what planet???

                            • 3 votes
                            #3.14 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

                            Deflection it's what the GOTP does best. Well besides screwing the working class and the poor.

                            • 12 votes
                            #3.15 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

                            Ya know what Spanky? Bet your daily karmic dose is a doozey. You sound consistently jealous and petty to me...good luck with that. Meanwhile the adults are going to elect the best candidate, our President. Because results talk and BS walks......

                            • 8 votes
                            #3.16 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

                            Deflection?

                            You mean like how this story is a deflection from the North Carolina harassment disaster? Hush money, misappropriation of funds, secrecy- all the usual elements of political disaster- not being reported on this site.

                            Maybe it's a deflection of Obama's idiotic attempt to further annoy the Brits? His attempt to refer to the Falkland Islands by the name preferred by the Argentinians kind of blew up when, instead of calling the islands the Malvinas, he called them the Maldives? That particular island sovereign nation is off the coast of India- in a different ocean. So, he not only looks like a jerk- he looks like an ignorant jerk.

                            I, personally, think they fed the media the dog-eating story because they figured it was the least worst thing to come out this week.

                            Then , Obama has to chime in with more of his own howlingly idiotic comments.

                            Well, I'm pretty sure you guys are going to be able to hear from him nightly in just a few short months. NBC gave a job to Chelsea Clinton- I'm certain they've got a slot for Obama over there on the cable channel no one watches.

                            Maybe there'll be a recipe segment- from his cookbook "Dreams ofmy Fido".(not mine- some wag on Twitter- but it's too good not to use).

                            • 7 votes
                            #3.17 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

                            Amy...

                            You know absolutely zero about where ten cents of Romney's money came from. Just more green-eyed rambling following the president's lead. You know....the "this is not class warfare" class-warfaring president.

                            • 9 votes
                            #3.18 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

                            Geez,

                            I noticed Bryan finally shut up about what the conversation was about ! Maybe, when others reminded him of what the article focuses upon.... Obama, he realized he was pi$$ing into a stiff breeze !

                            By the way, when are Barack and Michelle flying to Colombia for vacation ? Obama just said he was scouting out their next vacation spot ...................... aaahhh, lifestyles of the rich and famous !!!!!!!!

                            I wonder if those GSA executives were ALSO helping him scout out future vacation sites ....... yeah, that's the ticket !!!! They were on special assignment for the President .... yeah, that's what we will tell them, then we won't have to plead the fifth ! Besides, it's always better to drink a fifth ... particularly when the U.S. taxpayers are picking up the tab !!!!

                            • 6 votes
                            #3.19 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

                            What's that old saying ..... O yeah, you are what you eat, LOL

                            • 3 votes
                            #3.20 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

                            "Understand, this is not a redistribution argument," Obama said. "This is not about taking form rich people to give to poor people. This is about us together making investments in our country so everybody's got a fair shot."

                            And, when arguing that government-subsidized community-college training programs were vehicles for economic growth, he said, "These investments are not part of some grand scheme to redistribute wealth, they've been made by Democrats and Republicans for generations, because they benefit all of us."

                            We keep trying to get this through the thick sculls of the FOX Noise "true believers," but alas, brain washing is difficult to correct. Speaking of which...Don't try reasoning with a steaming pile of troll.

                            • 7 votes
                            #3.21 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

                            What I find absolutely ironic is that the guy who says he wants to end loopholes and that he doesn't need any sure spent a lot of time and trouble (or his accountant did) to find every one he could. He even made sure to gift his kids the maximum in order to not pay taxes on $24K. I'm not saying that doing so is wrong, but it sure as hell is hypocritical to do it and then bitch about someone else doing the same thing. If he really meant it he would have just filed a 1040EZ and paid whatever it said without itemizing.

                            To anger a Conservative, lie to him. To anger a Liberal, tell the truth.

                            T Roosevelt

                            • 5 votes
                            #3.22 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

                            He said it just the way it is. He's talking about fairness and equality versus greed and inequality. He's talking opportunity for all rather than a select few. He's talking a political atmosphere representative of all rather than those holding wealth. He's talking "New Deal" economics rather than "laissez-faire" politically dominated economic crud. He will totally wipe, wrap, and roll Romney.

                            • 3 votes
                            #3.23 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:15 PM EDT

                            Obama might not have been born with a silver spoon in his mouth, but Romney didn't have a transgender Indonesian nanny. So I think they are even.

                            • 7 votes
                            #3.24 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

                            Spanky! WOW!!

                            Man, I've been around some disgruntled, pathetic, sour-puss, hating, misguided, cynical, obtuse, rednecks in my life, but you take the cake. I truly feel sorry for anyone that has to deal with you on a day-to-day basis.

                            I think you're so obsessed with Obama that you’re either jealous or probably masturbate to his picture. Why else would anyone hop on the lamest excuse just to talk about a person (like blame a child for what his parents do?!?)?

                            For your sake, you'd better hope Obama sticks around for a good many years. He seems to be your reason for existing. Are you Gay, by any chance??

                            • 1 vote
                            #3.25 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

                            Some people sure have a funny idea of "fairness" and "equality". I think the very technical definition of equality would be that everyone would pay the same, as a percentage. How much more "equal" can you get than "equal"? Fairness? It's not entirely fair that I have to work for my money and others don't. It's also not fair that I have to pay my bills and others don't. I obey the law and do the right things and people on both sides of the spectrum are bleeding me dry. The bastards on Wall Street and the sons-a-bitches on Easy Street. How about in the interest of fairness you all pay your way and leave those of us that actually work for a living in the middle the hell alone? I don't want to pay for your corporate Welfare or your damn food stamps, but I have to pay for both or I go to jail. How the hell is that fair? Taxation without representation? There ain't a damn soul in Washington that represents me or people like me.

                            • 4 votes
                            #3.26 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:01 PM EDT

                            Yes, it's true that Obama wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He had it much better. He was given a "free pass" his whole life - courtesy of the taxpayers (whom he despises) and Affirmative Action.

                            • 6 votes
                            #3.27 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:25 PM EDT

                            Realamericannow:

                            The parents of Bill Ayers sent him to Harvard as they were told he was a foreign exchange student from Indonesia.

                              #3.28 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:17 PM EDT

                              Re-pubs come in only three flavors: Billionaires, millionaires and poor saps.

                              • 2 votes
                              #3.29 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:37 PM EDT

                              Wireman,

                              Demo-s come in many disguises, billionaires, millionaires, Hollywood celebrities, union leaders, union members, thieves, bankers, newspaper editors, newspaper owners, TV journalists, liberals, ultra-liberals, socialists, communists, talking heads, morons, and losers.

                                #3.30 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

                                If Obama didn't have a privileged childhood, the Pope is Chinese.

                                  #3.31 - Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:34 PM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  As opposed to Romney, who was handed the whole set of silverware at the get-go.

                                  Btw Godspeed Dick Clark. You will always be America's Oldest Teenager.

                                  • 30 votes
                                  #4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:09 PM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarJC in GExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  Bali,

                                  Going to whores is also common in Columbia, but that does not make it acceptable for everyone.

                                  Does the dog eater describe his kids as being born with a silver spoon?

                                  Oh, I see you backed off on supporting Barry eating the dog.

                                  • 20 votes
                                  #4.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:15 PM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  How about all that cash Obama socked away for his little 1%-ers?

                                  That's a great thing, right Amy?

                                  Say, can anyone remind me - which public school do the little Obamas go to?

                                  What's that - they go to a very prestigious private school? Just like the Romney kids?

                                  Man, all these rich bastards are a like.

                                  So why is Obama talking about Silver Spoons again? Is he bragging?

                                  • 26 votes
                                  #4.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:18 PM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarJob1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  Willard and Ann own the silver spoon factory. I bet they never ever changed any of their kids diapers.

                                  • 27 votes
                                  #4.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:24 PM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  Yeah, but maybe they can give Sasha and Malia a job in the future.

                                  Job1, I know you went to Harvard.

                                  • 19 votes
                                  #4.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:29 PM EDT

                                  Doubt it.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #4.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

                                  Wow!!! Now we are bringing people's children in this forum??? You right-winger's are sinking to a new low on here!!!

                                  • 33 votes
                                  #4.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:04 PM EDT

                                  Spanky, what you are failing to see...yes Obama is now a 1%, but he also wants to tax the 1%'rs. See the difference? A lot of the Dems in Congress are also 1%rs. but they are still trying to pass the tax hikes. They are willing to pay more money. Unlike you and the rest of the 1%'rs. Get it.

                                  • 47 votes
                                  #4.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:23 PM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarBill1488Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  Feisty

                                  Gee... any idea who President Obama is referring to? lol

                                  I believe it was more then likely a platinum spoon & an 18K gold rattle in each hand!

                                  You Libs just made the point to tell me that poor people can't help being born poor but now you are trying to villainies Romney for as you say being born with a platinum spoon.

                                  If you actual tried to find out facts instead of just assume you would know that his father work in construction as did the rest of the family. With hard work they made something of themselves. You Libs might try working instead of b**ching about what you do not have thanks to those that have so much. When in fact if you put as much effort into working as you did bit*ching you would have a shot at being successful. Do bad mouth someone because they have more than you; they worked hard and became wealthy just as every American can do. Tell me something why does 53% of America think it is alright to be supported by 47% of America, please tell me.

                                  Obama is a liar he went to private schools. So for his to say he has not been blessed with money is BS, but since he shares the same ideology as you do, you are willing to overlook those facts.

                                  I myself am tired of paying for laze Americans that think having ten kids when you can't take care of one is ok. Those are the selfish people, the disregard these facts because they know they can just go get more welfare. The people that are rich have made their money with hard work and self-control you know they saved their money until they achieved enough to start businesses and you Libs think it is just ok for these people to pay taxes and no one else. What happens when these people with their money say F**K America they take 50% of my check, so then they move to another country, then who will pay your bills. The only way you get your check every month is because of tax payers NOT the government, if the government didn't tax then they could not give you a check. So how about we quit bitc*ing about not getting enough free money and show those of us that contribute a little respect.

                                  The rich doesn't pay their fair share, but I don't pay anything and it just isn't fair they should be required to pay more. How ridicules is that.

                                  Here is a link about Romney's father. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney

                                  • 20 votes
                                  #4.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:48 PM EDT

                                  verno,

                                  You are missing the BIG picture .... our country has a HUGE spending problem and Obama, in his 4th year of office, has never signed a budget of any kind. Maybe 1% of our problem is revenue shortfalls, but man up and admit we cannot continue deficit spending without bankrupting the entire f — — — — ing country !!!

                                  • 20 votes
                                  #4.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

                                  Wow, I haven't had so much fun reading one of these on-going feuds for quite some time.

                                  Spanky, I think thou doth protest too much.

                                  The last President that sent his child/children to a public school was probably Jimmy Carter. As for the fact that the President and Mrs. Obama's girls go to Sidwell Friends Private School, that's no biggie. If you're a politician in D.C. and your family lives there full-time, you send your kid/s to a private school. It doesn't matter if you're Republican or Democrat. And the taxpayers don't foot that bill. In the president's case, we, the taxpayers may be paying him a salary, but the money for his daughter's schooling comes out of his salaried pocket, not out of yours or mine.

                                  Did you also know that President Obama and family pay for their own food, dry cleaning, and personal expenses that the rest of us also have to pay for? The food they have in their own kitchen is purchased with their own money; they don't have an expense account for food, or for other private things like dry cleaning. Now they probably don't do the grocery shopping or drop things off at the cleaners, but they do pay the bill for those things.

                                  Spanky, it sounds to me like you are a pretty ignorant person. If I didn't know better, I'd think you were a part of that 1%. The problem with the 1% is that most of them are a greedy 1%. President Obama, Warren Buffett, Bill Gates and the other people in their small percentage of that 1% have no objections with paying more taxes. And the reason for that is clear - they get certain tax breaks because they're rich, so they feel an obligation to pay it forward, for lack of a better comparison.

                                  Spanky, you want to make Obama out to be something that he isn't. He's not a "silver monger." He may have benefited from being a minority when it came to getting into Harvard, but decent grades and hard work kept him there.

                                  Compared to Presidents like George Bush, also born with a silver spoon in his mouth, (and another one where the Texas sun don't shine), it's a pretty sure thing that GWB got into Harvard and Yale because of his daddy's connections. He also got that little draft deferment so he wouldn't have to go to Vietnam, too, remember? He was busy practicing his flying over Texas, while the other 99% were getting their a$$e$ shot off in Vietnam. Now that's what I call a true American hero - NOT!

                                  President Obama has brought decency back to the White House. He is a good husband and father, he doesn't gloat about all that he has, and he is a role model and example not just for young African American kids who aspire to have a good life, but for every kid who wonders if their future will be better or worse than their parents. After all, isn't that what the 99% want for their kids - a bright and successful future where they are able to get a job and support themselves and their families.

                                  You see, the 99% doesn't want 5 houses, or an elevator for the cars in our garage. This is why the Republicans will never be able to relate to most of the 99%. They refuse to get off their high horses and work for ALL Americans because if they do that, they might get their silver shoes tarnished.

                                  • 53 votes
                                  #4.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

                                  Will Cousin

                                  Wow!!! Now we are bringing people's children in this forum??? You right-winger's are sinking to a new low on here!!!

                                  It's an indicator of the level of desperation in the GOP ranks, as President Obama is both a better man for the job and continues to remain ahead of Romney in the polls.

                                  Expect it to get even nastier as conservatives get even more desperate.

                                  • 28 votes
                                  #4.11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

                                  Expect it to get even nastier as conservatives get even more desperate.

                                  with ted nugent as their spokesman, you can count on it. Hopefully, he follows up on his promise to be in jail or dead next year.

                                  • 26 votes
                                  #4.12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:12 PM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarfloyd-335513Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #4.13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

                                  verno -- jim-1455434 and his ilk will always use fallacious argumentation, such as Warren Buffet can send in a check to the government, when they know (or should know) damn well this is no substitute for tax code reforms that will require all the rich to pay their fair share.

                                  And they know (or should know) damn well that it all adds up to reducing our deficit, and ability to continue investing in our future -- Yes we can and must do more including cuts in spending, but expecting one silver bullet as the answer to all our problems shows no Rule of Reason.

                                  Right-wingers -- Start looking to congress, specifically the Teapublican obstructionists if you want a damn budget passed, or STFU. We are tired of your lies.

                                  • 26 votes
                                  #4.14 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

                                  Watching this video made me feel so proud to be an American, so glad Obama is our President, and so determined to see him reelected. His vision is my vision, I want to support him in every way I can.

                                  • 39 votes
                                  #4.15 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

                                  Verno;

                                  Spanky, what you are failing to see...yes Obama is now a 1%, but he also wants to tax the 1%'rs.

                                  What part of

                                  "The 1 % already carry a disproportionate share of the tax burden" are you not getting?

                                  According to the Office of Tax Analysis, the U.S. individual income tax is "highly progressive," with a small group of higher-income taxpayers paying most of the individual income taxes each year.

                                  In 2002, the top 5 percent of taxpayers paid more than one-half (53.8 percent) of all individual income taxes, but reported roughly one-third (30.6 percent) of income.

                                  In 2009, the top one percent of wage earners were making roughly 17% of the nation's income but paid 36.7% of taxes collected.

                                  What is it about people who have found a way to bring more value to the marketplace, thereby earning more than you do, which makes them so evil?? I just don't get it.

                                  I tell you, Verno, if you spent less time trying to break the legs of people who walk better than you do... and more time simply trying to walk better yourself, then A) You would be a lot more productive (oops.. better watch out there.. wouldn't want to become part of the evil 1 percenters, now, would you?) And B) You'd probably be a lot less bitter.

                                  • 8 votes
                                  #4.16 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:24 PM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarbscolExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  Obama might not have been born with a silver spoon in his mouth, but Romney didn't have a transgender Indonesian nanny. So I think they are even.

                                  • 8 votes
                                  #4.17 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:27 PM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarJustified DefianceExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  Obama's "silver spoon" was under his nose full of white powder...not in his mouth!

                                  • 11 votes
                                  #4.18 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

                                  bscol - I swear you people must be on crack. Where in the hell did you get that one from? FYI - Romney's dad was Governor of Michigan and before that President of American Motors. Not exactly a blue collar upbringing. Being bi-racial, I would think Obama had a little tougher time as a kid. But why am I telling this to you. You've already been programmed.

                                  • 21 votes
                                  #4.19 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:36 PM EDT
                                  • 4 votes
                                  #4.20 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:39 PM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarArkiusExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  Dachs, you think too much of yourself, and if you don’t stop looking down your nose at Spanky and others, your eyes will permanently cross.

                                  So, you think that because Barry pays for his own “food, dry cleaning, and personal expenses” while living in the White House that that makes him a man of the people? He pays for his daughter's private school now he’s a man of the people?

                                  And tell me Dachs what’s with the ad hominem attack? Just who the hell do you think you are you to tell Spanky or anyone else that they are “pretty ignorant”?

                                  It does sound, however, like you got one thing right: You don’t know better. You don’t know better than anyone here; in fact I’d say you know a lot less. There is no problem with the 1%. That is a ploy that was made for people with little political acumen to suck on, you know, like a teat for dummies.

                                  The reality is, if you tax the top one percent, 100% of their income, you would not have enough to solve 5% of our financial problems. Can you understand the math? If that is the case, then what is the point? The point is, to distract political dilettantes and/or encourage party hacks, in other words, its political spam for public consumption.

                                  Spanky wants to make Obama out to be exactly what he is: A tax and spend extreme liberal, who is bankrupting this country. Whether or not he was born into wealth is irrelevant, what is relevant is that he is financially destroying this country.

                                  Comparing Barry Obama to George Bush is irrelevant. How George Bush got into Yale and Barry got into Harvard is irrelevant. Barry Obama is bankrupting this country. Do you think you can focus on that, because that is the only thing that has any merit? Everything else is claptrap designed to distract people like you from grasping the real problem, i.e., Barry Obama has spent this country to the brink of bankruptcy.

                                  Whether or not Barry Obama “brought decency back to the White House”, or is a good husband and father, or is a role model for young African American kids is of little importance in this election. What is important is that people remember that Barry Barrack Obama’s ineptitude has brought America to its financial knees, and four more years will bring this country to ruin. Everything thing else is superfluous.

                                  • 8 votes
                                  #4.21 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:51 PM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarAgainst Union ThieveryExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  "I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. Michelle wasn't, either".

                                  Oh poor you. You sound like the Wall Street Protestors. Maybe if your absentee dad and radical loon mom had been more like Mitt's dad and Mitt himself maybe you could have been born with a silver spoon in your mouth too. I guess some people just make better choices. See what can happen when you actually work at a real job instead of being a community organizer and hanging around with radicals. By the way Obama, the apple doesn't fall to far from the maternal tree.

                                  • 13 votes
                                  #4.22 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:54 PM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarredvirginiaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  Class warfare isn't working anymore, most American admire the people that succeed, the concept of robe to Peter to give to Paul is not an American value, I don't care if a person born in a wealthy family, it was his destiny not his fault and nothing to be ashamed, like my destiny was to born in a middle class family, but this situation only give me more incentive to succeed to provide a better future for my family, those low sentiment of Obama against the rich only inspire more envy instead to encourage the people to fight for their own destiny . It is a shame that this president instead to ask for reelection base in his record of achievements, he is asking to be reelected base in the income and wealth of his opponent.

                                  • 10 votes
                                  #4.23 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:59 PM EDT

                                  Obama was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth. But the Bush family and Romney were born with the entire set of gold and and silver utensils. Extreme right wing Republicans just can't give up with such fictitious stories about Obama due to the fact that they simply cannot get past their bigotry.

                                  • 18 votes
                                  #4.24 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:09 PM EDT

                                  Will Cousin

                                  Wow!!! Now we are bringing people's children in this forum??? You right-winger's are sinking to a new low on here!!!

                                  *cough.....Bristol Palin.....cough*

                                  Liberals have NO standing to whine about anyone bringing "the children" into political discussions.....not after the last 4 years

                                  • 9 votes
                                  #4.25 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:14 PM EDT

                                  TruePatriot, clearly you know the ins-and-outs of fallacious argumentation very well, because you do it with such ease.

                                  You wrote: “this is no substitute for tax code reforms that will require all the rich to pay their fair share.”

                                  Being a tax code expert, I’m sure you’ll have no difficulty providing the readers with proof to show us that you do indeed know what you’re talking about. Show us how tax code reform will require the wealthy “to pay their fair share.” Tell us how much this “fair share” amounts to? And please explain to the readers why you think that this idea that the rich must pay their fair share isn’t just a campaign ploy?

                                  You also mentioned something about how this “fair share” amount “adds up to reducing our deficit, and ability to continue investing in our future.” Can you tell us what the federal deficit is, without having to look it up? Also, what, in your opinion is investing in our future?

                                  Should the Left-wingers start looking to congress for more socialist programs? How about the Obama, socialist obstructionists? Do you have any advice for them? Should you STFU, because we can’t stop laughing at you, and we really need to have dinner? How about the Democrats lies? Are you tired of them yet, or can you listen to a few dozen more?

                                  • 10 votes
                                  #4.26 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:16 PM EDT

                                  jim-1455434

                                  We don't have a huge spending problem. The government has downsized since the end of the Iraq war. We've had cuts upon cuts. Our government is smaller now than the Bush years.

                                  We are a huge 1st world nation. The government leads in weapons and defense. Our infastructures are crumbling. We need funds to keep up the maintenance on it.

                                  You can't have maintenance and upkeep without funding. The middle class paid for most all of it. Thanks to the previous policies, there is no middle class to milk anymore. Still, they're still trying to milk from an empty bottle of the poor. Just how much of the safety net that makes this nation great are you willing to end?

                                  All this knowing the rich who have 2/3rds of the nation's wealth are not paying their fair share, thanks to the loopholes and subsidies the past has given them.

                                  Any common sense tells you where to look. The middle class and poor is not going to bail this country out. There isn't enough funds to milk off of.

                                  Trickle down economics has failed us, it doesn't trickle down. But every time we invest in the middle class and poor, we win. We become a profitable nation. People rise up and obtain the American dream.

                                  You can't possible justify taking from the poor and middle class while saying, "leave those poor rich people alone".

                                  • 14 votes
                                  #4.27 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:19 PM EDT

                                  No silver spoon for Obama but neither was it plastic. The only questionable time in his life was living with his mother that was to busy finding her next husband to properly care for him. Private schools, attending college on scholorships designed for foreign students ( that is why no records released). He is not what he claims, an average joe that worked his way up. He was lifted on the backs of Americans that played by the rules, not fast and loose with them.

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #4.28 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:21 PM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarMr. Miller-447368Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  We don't have a huge spending problem. The government has downsized since the end of the Iraq war. We've had cuts upon cuts. Our government is smaller now than the Bush years.

                                  ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.. x a lot.

                                  • 12 votes
                                  #4.29 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:24 PM EDT

                                  Mr. Miller-447368 -- Where to begin?! When the 1% makes a zillion and pay only an effective tax rate of 15%, uh yeah, it still comes out to a lot because they made a zillion. The 47% who are not paying income taxes are paying other taxes, but if we ended all the income tax write-offs, especially favoritism for one group and capital gains, why don't you support this?

                                  Justified Defiance-- And Dubya was a saint? Stop with the GOPee Wee Herman, "I know you are, but what am I" silliness.

                                  Arkius-- You ain't from around here are ya? That there poster you refer to is a well-known troll who has used multiple log-ins and votes for his own posts from multiple IP addresses. Feed it and expect more sh!t.

                                  redvirginia-- The so-called "politics of envy" is what doesn't work, and if you bothered to look at polls and saw the overwhelming support for the Buffet Rule (including Republicans), you'd know better than to waste everyone's time with such nonsense. Fairness in opportunity is not contrary to admiring success, and in fact is all about the American Dream of success for ALL. However, attacking labor such as teachers, cutting programs the middle class depends on, or investment such as education, or privatizing Medicare the elderly depends on in order to giver more tax cuts to the rich IS class warfare.

                                  Shadowofself53 -- You only make the point that we need fairness in opportunity, by having public education and PELL grants. That the president graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard, however is not guaranteed, but the responsibility of each person to work hard for success.

                                  • 15 votes
                                  #4.30 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:25 PM EDT

                                  Spanky! WOW!!

                                  Man, I've been around some disgruntled, pathetic, sour-puss, hating, misguided, cynical, obtuse, rednecks in my life, but you take the cake. I truly feel sorry for anyone that has to deal with you on a day-to-day basis.

                                  I think you're so obsessed with Obama that you’re either jealous or probably masturbate to his picture. Why else would anyone hop on the lamest excuse just to talk about a person (like blame a child for what his parents do?!?)?

                                  For your sake, you'd better hope Obama sticks around for a good many years. He seems to be your reason for existing. Are you Gay, by any chance??

                                  • 11 votes
                                  #4.31 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:44 PM EDT

                                  redvirginia

                                  Class warfare isn't working anymore, most American admire the people that succeed, the concept of robe to Peter to give to Paul is not an American value, I don't care if a person born in a wealthy family, it was his destiny not his fault and nothing to be ashamed, like my destiny was to born in a middle class family, but this situation only give me more incentive to succeed to provide a better future for my family, those low sentiment of Obama against the rich only inspire more envy instead to encourage the people to fight for their own destiny . It is a shame that this president instead to ask for reelection base in his record of achievements, he is asking to be reelected base in the income and wealth of his opponent.

                                  Dude, haven't you seen the budget proposals by the GOP??? Ryan's budget cuts trillions in education, food stamps, Medicaid, and Medicare, while giving trillions in tax cuts that won't help the middle class. Where the @!$%# is the class warfare now???? Give me a bill where there are tax cuts to defense and reforms (not privatizations) to entitlements, and tax increases, and I will sign it. Class warfare my ass; the wealthy have had their tax rates cut by almost two-thirds, from 90% during the Eisenhower days to 35% now. Raising them back to the rates in the Clinton era isn't class warfare; it's common sense. I'd personally repeal all of the Bush tax cuts, but apparently that would hurt the recovery. So we repeal the cuts for the wealthy now and then repeal the rest when the economy is stronger. Simple as that. Those that don't need breaks (the wealthy) won't get them. Class warfare my ass.

                                  OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                                  • 17 votes
                                  #4.32 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:59 PM EDT

                                  Mr. Miller-447368

                                  Thank you for your well thought out rebuttal.

                                  Rest, so the strain of those thoughts that's weakened you will fade and you may recouperate from such a deep struggle of words.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #4.33 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:02 PM EDT

                                  @TruePatriot-445959

                                  Do you realize that if we taxed the top 1% at 100% of their income, we couldn't erase 1% of what Obama spent last year? If you throw the rest of the top 10% of wage earners into the 100% taxation pot, it would take us 237 years to pay off our national debt. Also, if you are one of that top 10%, are you going to work all year long just to have the government take everything away? No, you will take your skills and money to another country where you can keep some of your earnings so you can enjoy the fruits of your labor. The Buffet rule does not stand up to the math test. Please try it, you will be surprised at how little you are talking about compared to what we are spending. We DO NOT have a taxation problem ... we have a massive spending problem.

                                  If you gave everyone in the country a million dollars each, a millionaire would be a poor man. You cannot cure poverty by handing out money. Money only means something to a person if it is earned. Trust me, I am not including those folks that are physically or mentally unable to earn a living. I am talking about those folks that do nothing but hold their hands out for more programs and more benefits paid for by the tax dollars we send to Washington.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #4.34 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:06 PM EDT

                                  Oh poor you. You sound like the Wall Street Protestors. Maybe if your absentee dad and radical loon mom had been more like Mitt's dad and Mitt himself maybe you could have been born with a silver spoon in your mouth too. I guess some people just make better choices. See what can happen when you actually work at a real job instead of being a community organizer and hanging around with radicals. By the way Obama, the apple doesn't fall to far from the maternal tree.

                                  No, poor you. I find it amazing and outrageous how the right-wing goes mad when people go against them (Dixie Chicks, Obama in this article), but when they attack their opponents (Ted "I'm a deadbeat gun fanatic" Nugent and Obama) nobody says anything. Nice double standard, right-wingers!!!!!

                                  OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                                  • 11 votes
                                  #4.35 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:08 PM EDT

                                  62mga

                                  @TruePatriot-445959

                                  Do you realize that if we taxed the top 1% at 100% of their income, we couldn't erase 1% of what Obama spent last year? If you throw the rest of the top 10% of wage earners into the 100% taxation pot, it would take us 237 years to pay off our national debt. Also, if you are one of that top 10%, are you going to work all year long just to have the government take everything away? No, you will take your skills and money to another country where you can keep some of your earnings so you can enjoy the fruits of your labor. The Buffet rule does not stand up to the math test. Please try it, you will be surprised at how little you are talking about compared to what we are spending. We DO NOT have a taxation problem ... we have a massive spending problem.

                                  False. If we were to assume that there are 3 million millionaires in the US, and we were to take $1 million from each of them every year, we would raise approximately $3 trillion a year. If we were to tax them at the more economical rate of 24%, we would raise approximately $720 billion, over half of the deficit. If we were to tax the top tenth of Americans at 100%, we would most likely place a $1 or 2 trillion surplus. Sorry mate, but your rant doesn't meet the math test.

                                  And we DO have a taxation problem. The Bush tax cuts cost us $3.8 trillion a year and have done nothing to help us. If we were to repeal them now, we would slash deficits significantly. Add about $2.3 trillion in cuts, and we would have deficits at less than 3% of GDP in a few years.

                                  OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                                  • 10 votes
                                  #4.36 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:18 PM EDT

                                  Arkius, so your entire point is about Obama bankrupting the country. Where were you when GWB gave the rich a tax break and started two wars which has cost thousands of lives because of deceit, apparently the deficit didn't matter then so why does it matter now? Obama has turned the economy around from an inevitable great depression 2.0

                                  Furthermore, you believe that taxing the 1% a little more doesn't help out with the deficit at all, but I beg the differ. Anything is helpful especially to the deficit as apparent by the GOP and the Ryan's Budget as it will cut funding to all programs that assist the poor. So to make a story short, you believe like other GOP/TP that this deficit is solely the responsibility of the middle class and the poor, they're the one that needs to sacrifice for the greater good of a nation while the rich get richer.

                                  Call it socialism all you want, because what the GOP is doing is not much different. The GOP is creating a welfare system for the rich by cutting their taxes, while raising the tax on the middle-class not to mention corporate tax cut and oil subsidy in the billions. For those who doesn't know what subsidy for oil company is, it's government giving tax payer money in the billions to oil company just like if they were on welfare. If this isn't fraud then that woman in Michigan who won the lottery and living on welfare shouldn't be in a lot of trouble as she is now charged for fraud.

                                  • 10 votes
                                  #4.37 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:23 PM EDT

                                  Well said, Tony. The right wing lunatic fringe is not likely to accept responsibility for their horrendous mistakes, unfortunately, and they will do everything in their feeble power to blame President Obama for the incompetence, dishonesty, and lack of integrity of the previous administration that led to our current predicament. Thank goodness our president is heading toward another landslide victory in November!

                                  • 15 votes
                                  #4.38 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

                                  O'Bama was raised and indoctrinated by Islamic Muslims!!! Once an Islamic Muslim always a Islamic Muslim.

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #4.39 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:36 PM EDT

                                  Wow, these Democratic Party spokespeople such as Media Matters, Hilary Rosen, Ed Shultz, Bill Maher, etc., talking points just keep repeating themselves.

                                  Mr. Obama didn't have a "Silver Spoon in his mouth", but maybe he had an enormous amount of taxpayer $$$ support.

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #4.40 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:37 PM EDT

                                  Poor Obama, he wasn’t born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Now we learn that he actually ate dog meat. I grew up poor. I had to eat things (groundhog, bear, chicken gizzards ...) that would have gagged Obama. I wonder how old he was when he was introduced to dog meat. I can’t help but wonder how he felt about dogs. I learned early on how extraordinary they are. As an 8 year old I went hunting with my father and our dogs. There were many nights when they helped put food on our table with their tracking and driving skills. Its interesting how individuals/cultures manage food sources. One individual/culture views dogs as a food source. Other individuals/cultures view dogs as an asset to assist in obtaining food. It has occurred to me that Obamas dog eating experience is a metaphor for his views. He’d rather consume skilled, productive people, corporations and industries than work with them and utilize their extraordinary skills and vision as a means to allow the rest of us to prosper.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #4.41 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:59 PM EDT

                                  Tony - The old rhetoric about Bush won't work.. he was punished in 06 when both houses were taken over by the Dems..which brings me to my main point.. HOW IS IT THAT IT IS ALL THE REPUBLICANS FAULT, WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE 6 MONTHS, AND YET THE DEMS HAD CONTROL FOR 3 YEARS BUT IT WAS NOT THEIR FAULT..... ALL THE SPENDING ON THE DEFICITS ETC?

                                  Obama had a super majority with the White House, Congress and House controlled by Democrats. He could have passed any law! He did not need a single republican vote for any bill to pass. He could have promoted jobs and worked to strengthen the economy yet he passed a horrific and still undefined health care program that was so bad that he couldn't get his own party to vote for it. He had to buy their votes with huge tax cuts and wheelbarrows full of money for their states. The measure passed only after the congress used an extremely rare tactic. He and his super majority failed miserably to change the direction of the country.

                                  Kind of hard to spin that, but i'm sure you will try.

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #4.42 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:21 PM EDT

                                  There we have it, what more do you need from Obama that we haven't already seen! He wants it all.... King Obama will get his silver spoon if he can! Thank you for being honest for the first time...

                                  ABO 2012, more than ever!

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #4.43 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:34 PM EDT

                                  TruePatriot,

                                  I don’t know what you’re reading, or what you’re referring to, but my comments were directly addressed to you. If you are unwilling or unable to answer my questions, or deal with my arguments I fully understand; they are quite pointed and may be over your head. But I wish you would just man up and come right out and say that you don’t what to contend with my arguments, rather then insult the reader’s intelligence with your dad gum, corn-pone act; it isn’t very compelling.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #4.44 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:46 PM EDT

                                  Under Pres Bush and republiconns crashing the economy this was the result...

                                  Highest number of people getting food stamps.

                                  Highest number of workers on unemployment since Carter.

                                  Highest number of foreclosed homes.

                                  Fastest debt accumulation of $2 trillion in History (less then 2.5 years).

                                  Pres Obama has rescued the economy and turned it around, while republicans push for more of the same tax cuts for the rich paid for by cutting programs to the middle class and poor, raising taxes on the middle class and poor. They promise to end Soc Sec., Medicare and Medicaid, the post Office, birth control, etc etc. Republicans want to bring back the crash of economy, they want to do it all over again, They did not get all of your money. Vote no more.

                                  Vote OBama /Biden 2012

                                  • 7 votes
                                  #4.45 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:50 PM EDT

                                  Tony,

                                  Much of your rant is gibberish. For example: Can you please show a correlation between giving the wealthy a tax break, and starting two wars?

                                  You wrote: “Obama has turned the economy around from an inevitable great depression 2.0” Do you have any corroborative evidence to support this claim; otherwise it’s just subjective hogwash.

                                  You wrote: “So to make a story short, you believe like other GOP/TP that this deficit is solely the responsibility of the middle class and the poor” You are begging the question on three issues:

                                  First, you are assuming that I’m a Republican.

                                  Second, you are assuming that the Republican Party and the Tea Party are inseparable.

                                  Third, you are assuming that the deficit is the responsibility of the people, and not the responsibility of the government.

                                  You are incorrect on all three issues. Issue three shows the readers that you do not have a firm grasp of the fundamental workings of your own government. Clearly, you don’t have the slightest idea how basic consumer economics works either.

                                  When taxes on goods and services go up, the cost is passed along to the consumer, i.e., you and me. This means, when the government raises the taxes on the oil companies, gasoline and energy prices go up. Taxing other corporations makes their products more expensive for consumers to purchase.

                                  Do you really think that the middle class and poor will support legislation that puts that kind of immediate out-of-pocket expense on them? Well, this is what you and President Urkel and the Democrats are proposing, and this is what the GOP is fighting against. Do you think things out before you put them into print?

                                  Tony, do you remember the economic boom that we experienced during the Clinton administration? Whose economic policies do you think drove that boom? And why did those policies drive the boom?

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #4.46 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:23 PM EDT

                                  Lay off the references and jokes about Obama eating dog meat. He ate it when he was 6 YEARS OLD in an Asian country where dog meat is a staple food and PERFECTLY NORMAL and acceptable. They have "food" dogs and birds in cages everywhere in places like Vietnam and Cambodia, (although this is inhumane, and I do not condone this especially in America). You know what else they eat all the time there? They eat deep fried tarantulas in Cambodia, and Fetal duck egg in Vietnam! Big deal, get over it. Different cultures have different customs and norms. I don't begrudge Obama and his family of immersing themselves in a different culture while on vacation. In fact, sometimes it is disrespectful to refuse their customs when you are in their country. I can tell you from experience, as I have traveled to numerous different countries including several countries in Asia. I went to Vietnam and Cambodia 2 years ago, when I was 13 and ate fetal duck egg and ostrich. Just a couple weeks ago I ate alligator and kangaroo in Australia! It is okay to try various culinary customs when traveling through different countries. What we consider as disgusting and terrible in America may be perfectly normal in a different country. So, stop being so narrow-minded. I don't see what all the fuss is about.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #4.47 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:07 AM EDT

                                  I am glad that the President is getting a chance to get out of Washington. It has been such a long time since he has been able to get out of town. In his speeches I wish that he would explain why the stimulus did not improve unemployment as his administration had predicted, I want him to explain how the federal deficit for 2012 is not going to exceed 229.27 billion dollars as he unconditionally promised the American people even though his own White House is predicting that the deficit will exceed what the President promised by a factor of more than 5. I want him to explain how we are going to pay back all of the money that we owe and how much it is going to end up costing the tax payers.

                                    #4.48 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:14 AM EDT

                                    Yea, it's ok as long as obama does it. He DID have a nanny so I guess he wasn't too bad off. By the way, I just learned he hired Nawar Shora, a Syrian muslim advocate for Homeland Security. Read about him. He said federal agents remove their shores before entering a muslim suspect's home (even if they are arresting him). Nobody kisses a mezzuza before they enter a Jewish home. Isn't that putting a fox in the chicken coop?

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #4.49 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:17 AM EDT

                                    Freshieee,

                                    It appears that math and economics are not your strong suits, and you don’t seem to know what you’re talking about either. In fact, you’re utterly clueless.

                                    You wrote: “If we were to assume that there are 3 million millionaires in the US, and we were to take $1 million from each of them every year, we would raise approximately $3 trillion a year.”

                                    To begin with, some of the millionaires you want to rip off only have a million to two million, so this idea is worthless.

                                    Next, math isn’t a game of assumptions. You either know how many millionaires there are in the United States, or you’re full-o-crap.

                                    You wrote: “If we were to tax them (The wealthy, my emphasis) at the more economical rate of 24%, we would raise approximately $720 billion, over half of the deficit.” Uh……….hello, Einstein, the wealthy are already being taxed at a rate of 33%.

                                    That bit of information knocks down your entire crazy idea, but this one buries it. According to Robert Frank of The Wealth Report: North American millionaires had a combined wealth of $11.6 trillion, up from $10.7 trillion in 2009 (Robert Frank, The Wealth Report: June 22, 2011, 10:30 AM).

                                    The budget deficit is currently $142 trillion and rising. In other words, you could rob the rich only once, and you still wouldn’t solve the budget deficit problem, and on top of that, Obama wouldn’t have the wealthy to blame any more. Do you know what that means, dumb-ass? That means, in reality, he doesn’t have anyone to blame now; it’s a scam, and the only ones he’s managed to fool are weak minded suckers like you.

                                    You wrote: “If we were to tax the top tenth of Americans at 100%, we would most likely place a $1 or 2 trillion surplus. Sorry mate, but your rant doesn't meet the math test.”

                                    You just don’t get it do you comrade? Your brand of 100% taxation enslaved millions of people for over sixty years. It formed the backbone of communist regimes in Russia and Eastern Europe before those dictatorships came crashing down under the weight of their own emaciated corpses. But that isn’t the American way. We don’t steel from the successful and call it taxation. They are already struggling to do their fair share against government over-regulation and ineptitude. And NO, we don’t have a taxation problem, we have a spending problem.

                                    According to David Jackson of USA Today, “the deficit for fiscal year 2009, which ended Sept. 30, came in at a record $1.42 trillion, more than triple the record set just last year (David Jackson, USA Today: Oct 16, 2009). More than triple the 2008, $455 billion budget deficit of President George Bush, who was fighting a two front war.

                                    And finally, you wrote: “The Bush tax cuts cost us $3.8 trillion a year and have done nothing to help us.” You are truly clueless.

                                    According to David Morgan of Face the Nation, tax revenue rose during the first year of the tax cut (2001), but fell in 2002 and 2003; however, the tax cuts had the desired affect, economic activity “was continually rising, according to Bureau of Economic Analysis data” (David Morgan, Face the Nation: July 10, 2011 2:08 PM).

                                    Clearly, the Bush tax cuts did what they were meant to do, i.e., stimulate economic activity, create jobs, put money in people’s pockets, which in turn, put money in the national coffers. Morgan also reports that tax revenues increased from 2004 to 2007.

                                    None of the claims you tried to argue in response to 62mga (bitchin’ ride, BTW) have any merit, and your credibility has been totally destroyed. You can not sell snow balls to Eskimos in the winter time, and you can not bullshirt intelligent people at any time.

                                    You have been dismissed.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #4.50 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:32 AM EDT

                                    Hey TruePatriot-445959 it only takes 51% in the Senate to pass a budget. The Democrats still have more then 51% right? Face it, the only thing the Democrats know how to do is spend. When handed the spending of Bush, it was a gift from heaven that allowed them to take it to the next level and blame someone else. Spending, borrowing, and blame is all we have gotten from the Obama administration.

                                    Obama may not have been born with a silver spoon in his mouth as he would say, but he was the recipient of affirmative action. So I guess he was use to taking from others to advance his own self interests. But he has now done nothing positive for this country, except engage in some of the most egregious crony capitalism ever on the backs of future generations. Obama will go down in history as the worst president ever.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #4.51 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:35 AM EDT

                                    "Obama will go down in history as the worst president ever."

                                    Are you kidding me? Guess how long it took Bush to accrue 2 trillion dollars of debt during his presidency. 2.5 years! You know who started a war in the Middle East where we threw away billions upon billions of dollars? President Bush. He was like the male version of Sarah Palin. President Obama was given a wreck of a country when Bush left office. The economy was terrible, and unemployment soaring. But, Obama has done a good job instating efforts to reduce debt, turn around the economy, and put people back to jobs. I'd say he's done a hell of a better job than Bush. In fact, it ridiculous to even imagine him as the worst president in history. I'm interested to see if Obama gets elected for a second term.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #4.52 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:26 AM EDT

                                    Not born with a silver spoon? This coming from a guy that never had to work at a real job his entire life.

                                    Bali Bob, if you bothered to look, you would have discovered that Romney gave away his entire inheritance from his father to charity. The wealth he accumulated was by his own hand.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #4.53 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:56 AM EDT

                                    Wet...

                                    If you look at the vitriol aimed at Mr. Romney's wealth, the green-eyed monsters on this site hate him because of his success and his wealth...they could not care less how he earned it unless he made all that money being a community organizer or a law professor.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #4.54 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:20 AM EDT

                                    Magician

                                    Bush's years from Jan 2001 - Jan 2009 was 4.9 Trillion. That is eight years and includes

                                    $400 Billion added to the Budget by the Democrats from January 2007 - January 2009

                                    $50 Billion in 911 commission recommendations that republicans refused to pass because they were not cost effective

                                    $700 Billion in Bailouts to which $350 Billion was never used. Of the $350 billion used, $300 Billion has been returned and credited against the Obama Deficits

                                    does not consider 56 Billion in spending the democrats passed that Bush vetoed

                                    Obama is 5.027 Trillion in 39 months or 3.25 years. This is $300 billion low because of the Bailout money returned in 2010.

                                    He has no proposed budget in the next 4 years with a deficit less than $1 Trillion.

                                    Obama is far worse than Bush.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #4.55 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

                                    JoeB-460595

                                    O'Bama was raised and indoctrinated by Islamic Muslims!!! Once an Islamic Muslim always a Islamic Muslim.

                                    Islamic Muslims? Isn't that redundant, Joe?

                                    Obama was 'raised and indoctrinated' by his American mother and by his maternal grandparents.

                                    No finer man has ever served this country.

                                    I don't know who raised you, Joe, but you have obviously been indoctrinated by intolerance, bigotry, small-mindedness and ignorance.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #4.56 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

                                    Amy B. Portland, ME, #4.15- I'd like to be able to say that I totally empathize, if you will, with your sentiments, but I did not see a video and only read this article with its quotes. I believe the Prez was just in your City, recently, too- No? (that is if you really are in Portland, Maine and don't just have that "moniker?" because you really LOVE Portland, Maine. (as I'm aware of many many from all over the Country who do).

                                    Anyway, it just finally became crystal clear to me, where my "now disconnect" with this Self-compromised and "wrongly compromise-first and only" President lies and why; and it's in this article, for me. How can someone be The President of the United States and uphold a perspective purporting to be trying to reach the Average American with a simultaneously "overriding" while also "underlying" [Pay-to-Play-is-the-only-acceptable-way] as a "Values" message to them? "I'm the President of the United States, I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth, I DON'T LIKE TO PAY TAXES, but it's okay now that I'm no longer an Average American and am now one of those that can "Pay-to-Play"? How many College Kids at that Unniversity are saddled into the sunset with misleading and fraudulently scammed "Pay-to-Play" Bounty-loans on "their" futures that are stiil to come? Where is the "I LOVE AMERICA" and "I WANT TO PAY TAXES AND INVEST IN THE RESTORATION OF PROSPERITY OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY"? (Not because it's a good idea to because I can afford it!) Joe and Jane Average are "paying $4 a gallon to play" and then they're paying the taxes in subsidies to keep that going. And when they're not Double-Jeopardy "paying to play" directly at the pump, they're Triple-Jeopardy "paying to play" in the root to cumulative "effect" and "affect" to EVERY ASPECT of their "FORCED PAY-TO-PLAY" LIVES FOR BEING OF THE "COMMODITY" OF MERE IDEOLOGICAL EXISTENCE! (In the Land of the FREE?) ONE MORE TIME: I "pay $4 a gallon so my Grandaughter literally can "PLAY". (I have to give her Friends' Mother gas money so they can have a PLAYDATE!)

                                    The "Average" American Citizen now forced-compromisingly aspires "ONLY" to be able to "Pay-to-Play" in their very own LIVES. Wow! There are some job training "programs" out there to "TRAIN" you how to accept, smile broadly and pretend to cope with it like it's not happening!

                                    Taxes also pay for an autonomous of the Legislature, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, to put an (this is all not okay) end to it; just as much and pretty much along the same lines as "Secret" Hootchie-Kootchie Servicing! Not a lot different. Don't have to run to the Legislature to ask permisiion to uphold the existing LAWS of the United States of America so they can have an investigation into ow to make a new Existing-Law-Negation-Loophole-posing-as-Legitimately-NEEDED-New-Law to block it.

                                    Attaching to stupidly calling it "The Buffet Rule" was no better, even, than all the first Gop Candidates that actually signed Pledges and attached themselves, "SPECIFICALLY", to what's his name Billionaire Nordquist? or something like that. (notice his name and all of that is and has been out of the spotlight for a while now?)

                                      #4.57 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:02 PM EDT

                                      Sailcat-2064101

                                      Dipsit! You have been running your piehole fro quite some time now yet you have consistently fail to back it up with any information. Not even bad information. A while back I showed you whose fault it was . You would not even acknowledge the existence of that information much less try to prove it wrong.

                                        #4.58 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:34 PM EDT

                                        Star,

                                        Under Pres Bush and republiconns crashing the economy this was the result...

                                        Highest number of people getting food stamps.

                                        Highest number of workers on unemployment since Carter.

                                        Highest number of foreclosed homes.

                                        Fastest debt accumulation of $2 trillion in History (less then 2.5 years).

                                        Pres Obama has rescued the economy and turned it around, while republicans push for more of the same tax cuts for the rich paid for by cutting programs to the middle class and poor, raising taxes on the middle class and poor. They promise to end Soc Sec., Medicare and Medicaid, the post Office, birth control, etc etc. Republicans want to bring back the crash of economy, they want to do it all over again, They did not get all of your money. Vote no more.

                                        You are so very wrong, here are the actual facts. Unlike you I have posted links to show you just how wrong you are. I know you Libs don't like facts just SPIN. As you can see from unbiased sources Obama has spent $5.3 trillion in 3 years and wants to add another $1.6 trillion Bush only spent $4.5 trillion in 8 years and I did not agree with that but all you claims about Bush are really about Obama. Nice try to Spin it.

                                        Romney understand how things like economics work, he has run successful businesses and Obama has not; Obama thinks he can just spend, spend, spend. He is not worried about it at all, you cannot just spend money that you don't have and think it will work out. Obama got our triple A rating reduced to a double A rating for our Nation. He said Bush was unpatriotic in the $4.5 trillion he spent in 8 years but now Obama has spent $5.3 trillion in 3 years and he is trying to spend another $1.6 trillion on this year’s budget. He picks and choses which of Bush’s achievement to try and take credit for, like the end of the Iraq war that were Bush's withdrawal date Obama did nothing, Like will Bin Laden again collected under Bush the seals confirmed this so again Obama did nothing. Or like when Obama had our military kill an American suspected of terrorism, Americans have a right to do process and Obama has taken that from us.

                                        How do you Libs think 47% of Americans can pay to support 53% of Americans, eventually the other people’s money runs out, than what? Obama instead of trying to turn America around, as he said he would on the campaign trail, has only created a bigger divide within Congress, he rush's to judgment on issues trying to make them into racial one's, NO GOOD LEADER DOES THIS. Obama said and I quote "If I can’t get the economy turned around in three years that I don't think I would deserve another term". I am here to tell you the economy has not turned around. Unemployment is still at 8.3%, that is not progress especially since Obama said if we passed the stimulus unemployment would not go above 8% but in fact it has been above 8% since Feb 2009 and it was up over 9% since May 2009 and didn't come back to under 9% until Oct 2011 so as you can see the economy was the furthest thing for Obama's mind. Two years of unemployment above 9% under Bush the unemployment was at around 5.3%, right now if you include the unemployment for 2009 to Bush's unemployment totals it is 5.8%, Obama's is 9.2% this for 2010 to present.

                                        .http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57358484/tax-dollars-backing-some-risky-energy-projects/

                                        http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_public_debt

                                        .http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/03/obamas-magic-number-150000-jobs-per-month/

                                        http://spectator.org/archives/2009/02/06/the-true-origins-of-this-finan

                                        http://realetybytes.com/?tag=unemployment

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #4.59 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:37 PM EDT

                                        Where to begin?! When the 1% makes a zillion and pay only an effective tax rate of 15%, uh yeah, it still comes out to a lot because they made a zillion. The 47% who are not paying income taxes are paying other taxes, but if we ended all the income tax write-offs, especially favoritism for one group and capital gains, why don't you support this?

                                        First of all, the president's own office of management and budget claims that if he got the tax hikes he wanted for the 'purpose of reducing debt/deficit (and at this point I use both words because he uses both interchangably, relying on the fact that the majority of the dumb masses have no clue as to the difference) , if he were to again add the tax he wants to have imposed, that it would make up roughly 1/10th of 1 percent of the shortfall.

                                        Secondly, when asked by Charlie Gibson in a 2008 presidential debate about the clear fact and data showing that every time capital gains go up revenue to the treasury goes down - our future commander in thief actually dismissed that point and went on to bang the drum about 'fairness'. Wow.. Purposely losing revenue to the treasury.. in order to punish people who have simply mastered disciplines and lived the American dream ... because I guess that's what you do in this class warfare battle... Just wow.

                                        I actually voted for the man because I simply could not give the Republican party a pass on what they allowed Geo. Bush to do with his term, or to the dignity of the office. I thought that when he spoke of hope and change he meant a Return to a Constitutional form of government. I was wrong. If it was wrong for Bush to run up the massive debt that he did - then it is just as wrong for the current administration to add their 5+ trillion to it. This is not about party loyalty - this is about loyalty to fact and logic and sound leadership.

                                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4iy2OfScQE

                                        (Quoting Charles Krauthammer, who says it much better than I could:) A most revealing window into our president’s political core: To impose a tax that actually impoverishes our communal bank account (the U.S. Treasury) is ridiculous. It is nothing but punitive. It benefits no one — not the rich, not the poor, not the government. For Obama, however, it brings fairness, which is priceless.

                                        "Where do I begin?" Yeahh.

                                          #4.60 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:33 AM EDT

                                          Thank you for your well thought out rebuttal.

                                          You're more than welcome.. but it wasn't meant as rebuttal, , , it was more of an involuntary reaction :)

                                            #4.61 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:41 PM EDT

                                            Feisty Redhead Roselle, ILRestored

                                            Gee... any idea who President Obama is referring to? lol

                                            I believe it was more then likely a platinum spoon & an 18K gold rattle in each hand!

                                            Godspeed to Dick Clark - New Year's Eve will never be the same! ;o(

                                            Gee? I wonder how Obama "Earned" his platinum spoon, and 24k gold chains. How did this poor black/molato boy pay for his Harvard Education? Could it have been given to him, in exchange for crooked back door/under-the-table political deals. Could the crooked dealings of Rod Biglogof@!$%# really have been mis-understood, and he really is a nice guy? Or quite possibly, Obama was a great, great businessman in a former life, and the money he made passed through the time port-hole? Or could it have been the Bush's who gave it all away to him, and therefore is Bush's fault.....Hmmm, I'll have to think about this, it's a really tough one.

                                            And what's with the "Godspeed" crap.... aren't you the same liberal slut that attacked Christian beliefs and called Santorum and religious wacko. Only now you're the one using religion to make a point, and that's okay. What a liberal hypocrite you are... I know, I know, I'm repeating myself.

                                              #4.62 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

                                              Duphas

                                              With each of your posts I try to decipher, I keep wishing you would stop trying to live up to your wrongly spelled name.

                                              You lack any credibility with your statements. You post right wing rhetoric. You incite ten times more than you inform.

                                              I find your posts difficult to read through the hatred and most of it is fanatical ramblings.

                                              You seek no information nor debate. If you aren't instigating, you are retaliating.

                                              I find many such as yourself under the mindset you bear. They, as yourself, are entitled to their opinions, no matter how close-minded they are. However, it would serve you and those with your opinions better if you would show some respect with your posts. You know, "A spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down" and all that.

                                              You are a product of your environment. I can only imagine what environment you've been associating with.

                                              I hope better environments will find you in the future.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #4.63 - Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:38 AM EDT

                                              Kaybeetoys,

                                              You are absolutely correct "No finer man has ever served his country."

                                              President Obama will be forever remembered for uttering these immortal words:

                                              OK.......who gets the Beef Stroganoff?

                                                #4.64 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:16 PM EDT
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                                                Could have sworn Romney Senior donated his wealth to charity and the check Mitt got was donated to BYU.

                                                • 12 votes
                                                #5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

                                                lolwut?

                                                hey chief you got anything to back up that claim?

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #5.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

                                                Why won't Mitt release his tax info? Oh that's right, hiding those offshore accounts, Cayman Islands, Swiss accounts.....could it be he is not giving the correct share to his Morman church? Obviously he does not want to let anyone know how much tax is is not paying by stashing money in these accounts.

                                                • 8 votes
                                                #5.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:38 PM EDT
                                                Comment author avatarJustified DefianceExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                Obama made up for his lack of spooning by being FIRST to do many things from the Oval Office:

                                                First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
                                                First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
                                                First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States .
                                                First President to violate the War Powers Act.
                                                First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .
                                                First President to defy a Federal Judge’s court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.
                                                First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
                                                First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs.
                                                First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
                                                First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
                                                First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.
                                                First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
                                                First President to terminate America ’s ability to put a man in space-defunded NASA.
                                                First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
                                                First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
                                                First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
                                                First President to tell a major manufacturing company (Boeing) in which State they are allowed to locate a factory.
                                                First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
                                                First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
                                                First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
                                                First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
                                                First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date & counting.
                                                First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
                                                First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.

                                                First Commander In Chief to not know how to properly pronounce Navy 'corpsman'.
                                                First Commander In Chief to be tutored on how to properly salute - a basic military gesture
                                                First President to go on multiple global ‘apology tours’-including bowing to foreign rulers.
                                                First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer.

                                                First President to say that America was not a Christian nation.
                                                First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) just for his wife.
                                                First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.

                                                JUST SAY NO TO OBAMA2012, the Experiment has FAILED!

                                                • 19 votes
                                                #5.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

                                                Enough of the @!$%#ing comment spamming & not atrributed your source!

                                                You & the other ssmith are in violation of (2) COH rules!

                                                Then again, I wouldn't want admit it came from a chain e-mail either!

                                                • 13 votes
                                                #5.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:01 PM EDT
                                                Comment author avatarJustified DefianceExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                LMFAO - Spit that free cheese out before you post Red...but then again i wouldn't want to admit I'm on welfare, drawing UE checks & on FOOD STAMPS - Hang in there though sweetcheeks - Maybe YOUR Prez will extend your welfare to 151 weeks ;)

                                                • 12 votes
                                                #5.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:05 PM EDT

                                                LOL

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #5.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:06 PM EDT

                                                The US under Prez-0:

                                                Highest number of people getting food stamps.

                                                Highest number of workers on unemployment since Carter.

                                                Highest number of foreclosed homes.

                                                Fastest debt accumulation of $2 trillion in History (less then 2.5 years).

                                                First President to use class warfare - last time it was used: Lenin.

                                                Old saying about liberals, "The only reason communism didn't work for the USSR is because we were not in charge."

                                                • 11 votes
                                                #5.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

                                                but then again i wouldn't want to admit I'm on welfare, drawing UE checks & on FOOD STAMPS

                                                This is all you got? lmao

                                                Is this where I'm supposed to feel insulted? By a mental midget no less?

                                                Junior, you need some to do some serious studying before you will gain access to the adult table!

                                                But, I do thank you for playing - you are now dismissed! ;o)

                                                • 12 votes
                                                #5.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:17 PM EDT
                                                Comment author avatarJustified DefianceExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                Poor Fiesty, she got her knickers all wadded up because i didn't include a link to a liberal source, when in fact no source is needed. Most everything in that list of FIRST's has been in the Main Stream News Media - it's all over the World Wide Web - Some even here where she is a paid troll that spews incoherent drivel, her beloved MSNBC.

                                                Get over it Fiesty, people here on on to you - and stop barking orders like a bytch dog in heat-
                                                you have double standards just like dear leader does ;-o
                                                Ignorance is not handicap - troll elsewhere - Owned! ROTFL

                                                • 11 votes
                                                #5.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:25 PM EDT

                                                To Justified Defiance (Post # 1.57):

                                                Try doing a closer read on the recent Republican Presidents in the past 20 years. Now that is a real reality check!! You Republicans sure are a "sore lot" with the fact that your Party has no worthy candidates other than spousal cheaters, tax cheaters, a sole focus on eliminating the S.S. , a sole focus on eliminating medicare, give more exemptions to the wealthy, make the poor work without a minimum wage salary, no benefits except for the corrupt CEO's, philosophy of nothing wrong with slavery since it worked for them (elite) etc. , etc. What a sad lot to of persons to promote as a leader. There has got to be someone far better than those came forward. Wow, what a worthy set of values for a leader!!! However, they do call themselves a "Born Again Christian". Obviously money does nothing to make them more worthy of a candidate for our Great Country.

                                                • 9 votes
                                                #5.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:35 PM EDT
                                                Comment author avatarThe JazzmanExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                Justified Defiance I totally agree with you and you certainly have the facts, some people just don't want to admit that the 'Tele-Prompter' so-called president experiment is a failure as you said, because they voted for this buffoon. Obama is so stupid, he's still looking for the corner in the Oval Office.

                                                Hey Big Head Red, check your calendar and tell us when's the next 'Secret Service' party?

                                                Now's there your 'Hope' and keep the 'Change' .....

                                                • 6 votes
                                                #5.11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:35 PM EDT

                                                JFK-2112 -- Just because the Romney's are good at legal money laundering (e.g., Romney's sons don't pay taxes on the money he gives them) doesn't mean it's a good, moral, or admirable thing to do. It sure as heck is not what most Americans look for in a president and leader of the free world.

                                                Justified Defiance -- Posting that same crap repeatedly, and in bold no less, will not make it true. Those statistics are a result of the Great Depression brought to us by the Republicans. So?!

                                                • 10 votes
                                                #5.12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:38 PM EDT

                                                lol @ Justified - and that ALL happened magically as soon as Obama took office, eh? ;)

                                                • 9 votes
                                                #5.13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

                                                Spanky! WOW!!

                                                Man, I've been around some disgruntled, pathetic, sour-puss, hating, misguided, cynical, obtuse, rednecks in my life, but you take the cake. I truly feel sorry for anyone that has to deal with you on a day-to-day basis.

                                                I think you're so obsessed with Obama that you’re either jealous or probably masturbate to his picture. Why else would anyone hop on the lamest excuse just to talk about a person (like blame a child for what his parents do?!?)?

                                                For your sake, you'd better hope Obama sticks around for a good many years. He seems to be your reason for existing. Are you Gay, by any chance??

                                                • 5 votes
                                                #5.14 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:46 PM EDT
                                                Comment author avatarJustified DefianceExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                Since Fiesty and you brainwashed sheep have short term memories & want "sources" i suppose i could toss a few in the mix, along with a few dear leader LIES.
                                                But seriously, the REAL SOURCE is OBAMA's mouth - that is the ORIGINAL source!

                                                Lies During Third Year

                                                I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it.
                                                American.com

                                                USA producing more oil than ever before
                                                Petroleum Insights

                                                Fence between US and Mexico is "Practically Complete"
                                                Department of Homeland Security says 5%

                                                Habitual lies about oil & gas prices and production numbers.
                                                Obama's mouth.

                                                Lies During Second Year

                                                No signing statements to nullify or undermine congressional instructions as enacted into law
                                                Obama Lies to Keep Czars

                                                No "boots" on the ground Libya
                                                Anyone that has worked with the AC-130 gunship can tell you, you need spotters to let aircraft know where the targets are. Usually it is Special Forces, Rangers etc trained for this mission. It's CIA Agents in Libya on the ground

                                                Reform will also rein in the abuse and excess that nearly brought down our financial system. It will finally bring transparency to the kinds of complex, risky transactions that helped trigger the financial crisis.
                                                Obama Lies About Financial Reform Bill

                                                All Americans WILL BE were, "surprised, disappointed and angry" about lockerbie bomber
                                                Obama Memo

                                                I will not rest until the BP Oil Spill stops
                                                Obama's Schedule

                                                The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime.
                                                Campaign and Presidency

                                                If you like the health care plan you have you can keep it
                                                TownHall

                                                "Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place."
                                                U.S. Capitol, Washington, D.C., September 9, 2009.

                                                ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax
                                                Obama denies healthcare is a new tax on all Americans

                                                We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.
                                                Obama's oval office speech in June 2010

                                                Now suddenly if you don't have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you can be harassed, that's something that could potentially happen.
                                                Arizona Immigration Law

                                                The Health Care Package will pay for itself
                                                Time

                                                Republicans don't have a single idea that's different from George Bush's ideas — not one.

                                                Hmm Immigration?

                                                We shouldn't Mandate the purchase of health care
                                                Democratic Debate Lies

                                                I am immediately instituting PayGo "Pay as you go"
                                                Said during a speech immediately after the Trillion Dollar "Shovel Ready" bill.

                                                I got the Message from Massachusetts
                                                Daily Bail
                                                Lies During First Year

                                                I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
                                                Obama Inauguration. 20 Jan 2009

                                                Cut Deficit in Half by end of first term
                                                Associated Press Video

                                                Health Care deals will be covered on C-span
                                                Obama Lies

                                                As President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide
                                                ABC

                                                Recovery Act will save or create jobs
                                                ABC News

                                                Unemployment rate will be 8.5% without stimulus.
                                                Obama Lies

                                                No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus

                                                CNN

                                                I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care plan
                                                Specator.Org

                                                We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages.
                                                Obama Lies

                                                I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage.
                                                NPR

                                                Guantanamo bay to be closed within a year
                                                Council on Foreign Relations.

                                                Won't Raise taxes on those making less than 250,000 per year.
                                                Businessweek: Obama Agnostic on taxes
                                                List of Tax Promise Violations
                                                2008 Campaign Lies

                                                Obama campaign would accept public funding
                                                http://obamalies.net/wp-admin/post.php?post=901&action=edit-to-break.html">ABC

                                                Ann Dunham spent the months before her death in 1995 fighting with insurance companies that sought to deny her the coverage she needed to pay for treatment.
                                                Mounting Heath Care Lies

                                                Didn't know Jeremiah Wright was Radical
                                                Dreams of My Father – A radical Socialist.

                                                Would have the most transparent administration in History
                                                Cato Institute

                                                We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don't need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way.
                                                Boston Globe

                                                I have visited all 57 states.
                                                Snopes

                                                I'll get rid of earmarks
                                                Source: Any bill passed during presidency

                                                When a bill lands on my Desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it.
                                                Campaign Speech

                                                My father served in World War II.
                                                The Videos and the Facts

                                                Have troops out of Iraq by March 31, 2009
                                                News Video

                                                Seniors Making less than 50,000 will not have to pay taxes
                                                YouTube

                                                Would not vote for any bill supporting troop funding without a firm withdrawal commitment from the Bush Administration.
                                                He has done nothing but continue the Bush admins strategy and to explain how the "surges total failure" has now become his greatest achievement.

                                                Present Votes Are Common In Illinois
                                                NPR

                                                I Won Michigan
                                                Huffington Post

                                                I won Nevada
                                                The Nation

                                                I don't Have Lobbyists
                                                US News

                                                My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad
                                                Crooks and Liars

                                                I Have Always Been Against Iraq
                                                Washington Post

                                                My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country
                                                CNN

                                                Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
                                                Obama Campaign Video

                                                I Barely Know Rezko
                                                Sun Times

                                                My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church
                                                ABC News

                                                • 7 votes
                                                #5.15 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:47 PM EDT
                                                Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                Poor Fiesty, she got her knickers all wadded up because i didn't include a link to a liberal source,

                                                By all means, please feel free to do it now... Walk the walk junior...

                                                Owned! ROTFL

                                                Not on your best day little buddy! Now get off your knees and at least try to be a productive member of society ;o)

                                                In the spirit of bipartisanship - here's a tissue to wipe your chin!

                                                You little bitch! ;o)

                                                • 8 votes
                                                #5.16 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:48 PM EDT

                                                Obviously, this sit is not worthy of one's time to spend reading such filthy, derogatory, demeaning, comments about another blogger with a different view point. Some just cannot carry on a decent, civil, intelligent conversation without stooping to such guttural playground behavior (like the post in 1.57). It is people like this that create disharmony among in our Country, and who contribute trash rather than trying to help solve problems or accomplish something of real value . No need to reply--- There are far more better things to do since some just are not capable of a reality check, etc.

                                                • 6 votes
                                                #5.17 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:52 PM EDT

                                                Deal with it Fiesty...your are too ignorant to even realize when your ass is getting spanked on a public forum by a "little bitch boy" Go back to your OWS protests. ;)

                                                Your false messiah voted against raising the debt ceiling in 2006 and slammed Bush for failure of leadership. One of the few times he didn't vote "present".... He has provided ample lies, hypocrisy and inaction for a plethora of GOP campaign ads.

                                                Senator Barack Obama Explaining his 2006 Vote Against Raising the Debt Limit

                                                From Sen. Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006:

                                                "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."

                                                Obama started off a failure, remains a failure, and will leave a failure -- Even his own party will no longer support him or his failed policies... One and Done.

                                                Ohhhh... By the way Don't forget: If you want the Federal Gov't to obey the Constitution and live within it's means - YOU ARE A TERRORIST!

                                                • 11 votes
                                                #5.18 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:13 PM EDT
                                                Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                Deal with it Fiesty...

                                                Oh... but junior - I already have... You humping my leg is not helping your cause... now run along and grab your ankles little buddy & don't forget to smile... ;o)

                                                PS: Get back to me when you become Feisty 'worthy' will ya... junior? lmao

                                                You & your ilk bore the @!$%# out of me...

                                                PPS: Tell us how your balls taste... Goober?

                                                • 6 votes
                                                #5.19 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:22 PM EDT

                                                Justified Defiance

                                                Thank you for posting from a right wing radical site. But, for each of your posts is the other side of the story.

                                                Everything obamalies.net/list-of-lies posts is refutable.

                                                There are no facts, just the spin on facts.

                                                • 6 votes
                                                #5.20 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:37 PM EDT

                                                Fiesty If "me & my likes bore" you so much why do you constantly attack me, or anyone that disagrees with your incoherent drivel? Why do you continue with your lame playground insults - you are so out of gas it's pathetic. You have yet to back up ANYTHING you spew. Zzzzz

                                                • 6 votes
                                                #5.21 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:39 PM EDT

                                                Bosslimo - since when are senate floor speeches and other FACTS only available from a "right wing radical site?"

                                                If anyone is spinning anything it is you... thanks for the attempt though.

                                                • 7 votes
                                                #5.22 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:48 PM EDT
                                                Comment author avatarldoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                Flyesity is on a rampage as usual:

                                                • Feisty: Fear-mongering Everything In Spurts Through Yelling
                                                • The: The Hypocrisies Everyday
                                                • Red: Ratifying Everything Democrat~progressive
                                                • Head: Henceforth, Everyone Admonishes Democrats~progressives.

                                                Wow, she has really set a good standard for those lovable Progressive~Liberal~Democrats. She must be getting her feeds from Hilary Rosen, Ed Shultz, or Bill Maher.

                                                Keep up the good work, Flyesity.

                                                • 4 votes
                                                #5.23 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:55 PM EDT

                                                Greetings Ido...it warms my heart to see i'm not the only one here to see Fiesty for what she/he/it really is.

                                                • 4 votes
                                                #5.24 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:04 PM EDT

                                                you are so out of gas it's pathetic

                                                Uh huh - if YOU say so...

                                                Given your half-assed attempt at a rebuttal - it's safe to say I OWN you... now lick my boots Goober!

                                                Oh, and, do us all a favor and quit cowering behind LDO's skirt... trust me... it really isn't attractive...when all hyena's hunt in packs.. lmao!

                                                Now give me a {{{hug}}} bitch! lol

                                                • 3 votes
                                                #5.25 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:14 PM EDT

                                                LMAO at "trust you" - You own NOTHING hot lips, you can't even entertain a thought. But congratulations on taking time out from your busy trolling schedule to humiliate yourself in public.
                                                Like myself and many others here have said before, you spew the spew but you waddle like a duck.
                                                You do not know the meaning of the word "rebuttal" ...along with a lot of other words you are clueless about ...You should be ashamed to kiss your mother with that foul mouth of yours.
                                                Now why don't you slip in to something more comfortable... like a coma.
                                                I give you happy ending --- Peace out - ROFL

                                                • 5 votes
                                                #5.26 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:41 PM EDT

                                                Justified Defiance........... YOU DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The fisting redhead has been owned after your thorough spanking! Well done Sir.

                                                • 4 votes
                                                #5.27 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:10 PM EDT

                                                I nominate Independent Thinker for Wussy of the Year.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #5.28 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:53 AM EDT

                                                It has long been my experience that when somebody feels it necessary to tell you that they "didn't grow up with adavntages" the exact opposite is true.....However, the corollary to this is the fact that they don't perceive the blessings and advantages that they had as being such.....it is a sense of entitlement in the highest and most obnoxious form....They try to convince you that they are just like you and have the exact same feelings and experiences, when they truly have no clue what it means to be working class.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #5.29 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:26 AM EDT

                                                Maybe not your mouth...

                                                  #5.30 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:05 PM EDT

                                                  Mitt's first apartment was $62 per month. It's always interesting what you can dig up on people. Kind of blows a lot of the bologna I see here out of the water.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #5.31 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

                                                  Bosslimo - you post a lot of radical left wing material, can't handle the right wing stuff?

                                                    #5.32 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:44 PM EDT
                                                    Reply

                                                    Divide. That's all they have.

                                                    Despicable but with his failure what else can you expect?

                                                    • 16 votes
                                                    #6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

                                                    rukidding,

                                                    I don't know how you people call over 25 straight months of private sector job growth failure. Sure, you can not like the guy for various reasons but you have to at least admit success or improvement when the facts tell you it's there. Our economy isn't close to being where it once was but considering what Obama inherited and the current direction the economy is going it's great news and you should applaud Obama and his team for moving us forward. Rather, you use your blind hatred and make statements that don't reflect reality. But...ignorance is bliss they say.

                                                    • 32 votes
                                                    #6.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

                                                    Vipp

                                                    If that is true then you are the most blissful person on the planet.

                                                    • 11 votes
                                                    #6.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

                                                    Rukidding,

                                                    There called facts...try looking up statistics at the Bureau of Labor and Statistics.

                                                    • 19 votes
                                                    #6.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:40 PM EDT

                                                    This radical right wing doesn't read facts. They just hate.

                                                    • 19 votes
                                                    #6.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

                                                    Job1,

                                                    I see plenty of hate on your side of the fence when the President advocates class warefare. If that's not promoting hate against one class of people versus another, I don't what it is...

                                                    • 13 votes
                                                    #6.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:15 PM EDT

                                                    Nope, your side has branded, hated and disrespected our President since the first day he began running for President. You folks can't stand the fact that President Obama fights back at the crap that has been levied against him since day one.

                                                    • 15 votes
                                                    #6.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:22 PM EDT

                                                    Job1, Respect must be earned. We are still waiting.

                                                    Telling "our side" they have to "sit at the back of the bus" is a very revealing comment from the President. Telling them "I won" simply shows his divisive attitude.

                                                    Your comment talking about "sides" is an admission of the division of our country. Leadership seeks to unite not to divide. Obama does not seek to unite, he seeks to wield his power in a very arrogant manner.

                                                    • 14 votes
                                                    #6.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

                                                    Class warfare started with the republicans and Reagans "Trickle on the middle and lower class economics." Even Bush Sr thought it was insanity calling it VOODOO ECONoMICS." When the rich offered him vice president, then he quietly changed his mind. The rich changed tax code by buying all the politicians they could and still are with Mitts "CORPORATIONS ARE PEOPLE PLAN." the rich set up all the tax shelters and put their money in off shore accounts to avoid paying taxes. Then people like Mitt started selling off companies and filing bankruptcy for even bigger profits. Republicans sent jobs overseas and vote against bring them back. President Obama and Dems and Independents want to bring the economy back to prosperity. The rich want it all, privatize everthing that is working well so they can have it all. That is the class warfare going on. Greed, not paying their share of taxes, and republicans are giving them more tax breaks. Teabaggers vote republican then sit and watch them steal their their money, their medicare, medicaid, soc sec. post office etc. Teabaggers....Too funny! OBAMA/BIDEN/2012

                                                    • 10 votes
                                                    #6.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

                                                    Since day one? Would that be the day that the loving and respectful lefties booed Bush at Obama's inauguration?

                                                    • 6 votes
                                                    #6.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:08 PM EDT

                                                    gee o'reelly, that's a good one. Where did get that fabrication from? Let me guess, first letter F, last letter X.

                                                    • 9 votes
                                                    #6.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

                                                    Despicable but with his failure what else can you expect?

                                                    You must live in a another world. Since mid 2008, when the bottom fell out, we've managed to crawl back to respectability. If we could get that blasted Party of No off of their lazy asses, we could be much farther ahead. We'll just have to vote them out in Nov. and do it ourselves.

                                                    • 7 votes
                                                    #6.11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

                                                    tony

                                                    Your ignorance is typical of an Obama voter.

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    #6.12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

                                                    It would not surprise me if Obama is elected for another term. Over 50% of our nation is now on the govt tit and growing every day. Obama does not believe Americans deserve a fair shot. He believes they deserve a fair handout. The fact is there are not nearly enough 1%ers to make this happen even if we taxed them 100%.

                                                    With regards to Buffet, it is well known his companies owe $1,000,000,000 in unpaid back taxes, so I think we would all appreciate it if he would shut up about not minding more taxes and pay the ones he ALREADY owes. A billion is not chump change!

                                                    With regards to Obama he gives each of his children $24,000 tax free. For a man who promotes tax fairness why would he do this?

                                                    • 5 votes
                                                    #6.13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:46 PM EDT

                                                    After almost 4 years, we still have about 2 million fewer people working than when he took office. Our economic growth is virtually nil... almost 3 years after the 'great recession' ended (mid-2009)
                                                    And... Obama is pretty much ignored when it comes to making decisions by world leaders - the recent Americas Summit is a prime example.

                                                    One & Done...these are serious times & we need serious people, and your time is up Mr Obama.

                                                    • 8 votes
                                                    #6.14 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:53 PM EDT

                                                    Job1,

                                                    It's all in your head... If you choose to live in fantasyland, I'm afraid no one can help you!

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    #6.15 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:07 PM EDT

                                                    I will be very happy when Willard, and many republicans are sent packing.

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    #6.16 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:11 PM EDT

                                                    Your ignorance is typical of an Obama voter.

                                                    Actually the facts show that most republicans are low information voters who are stuck on stupid.

                                                    • 6 votes
                                                    #6.17 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:16 PM EDT

                                                    The way that stats are presented will determine what they mean. In other words, stats say what you what them to say when you have the power to manipulate them.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #6.18 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

                                                    Studies done and proven that peope who watch Fox news are 30% dumber than people who watch other news sources. Is it from listening to lies....and believing them, or is this from their ignorance? You can search this one.

                                                    • 7 votes
                                                    #6.19 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:44 PM EDT

                                                    Justified Defiance

                                                    I'll bet you were one of the idiots, in the NRA crowd, nodding up-n-down when Ted Nugget was declaring that he would be either dead or in jail if Obama won a second term, right!?! You and your kind are a drag on our society. Hatred and bigotry will eat you alive from the inside. I just hope that it destroys you and the Ted Nuggets of the world before you hurt other people. Truly pathetic......

                                                    • 7 votes
                                                    #6.20 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:58 PM EDT

                                                    Job1,

                                                    When you criticize those that don't share you viewpoint you only show how petty and childish you really sound. Your tone of your posts show exactly why the majority of Americans loath Democrats and your attitude. You talk about how supposedly low information Republicans are yet you never cite any facts. I can then only assume that you are living in your little fantasyland. You really sound like some sad little person that lives off the government and doesn't contribute to society except when you THINK you have something important to share. Trust me...no one is listening.

                                                    Starsailing,

                                                    Studies?? Of course you "claim" there are studies yet you don't post any links.

                                                    Typical...

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #6.21 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:20 PM EDT

                                                    LOL..Yo-ho Yo Yo -- Is that a conclusion or simply a place where you stopped thinking?

                                                    Ted Nugent is not running for office, he can throw all of the darts he wants.

                                                    Mr. Nugent represents himself, if you ask him he will tell you the same. WHEN Romney is elected if he does not do a good job Mr. Nugent will be all over him also.

                                                    Ted Nugent is not a Republican or a Democrat....he is a PROUD AMERICAN, and unlike those in the whitehouse now he has always been proud to be an American- even when they have boneheads in office like this administration.

                                                    I'm laughing at the idea that liberals/Democrats are outraged at Nugent's comments when liberal/Democratic film makers created a movie and released it about how assassinating a sitting U.S. president would change current events during GWB's years and NO ONE repudiated that....in fact, it was largely embraced by the ignorant liberal community.

                                                    Freakin hypocrites!

                                                    Next! lmao!

                                                    • 6 votes
                                                    #6.22 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:25 PM EDT

                                                    jim-1455434

                                                    Job1, Respect must be earned. We are still waiting.

                                                    Telling "our side" they have to "sit at the back of the bus" is a very revealing comment from the President. Telling them "I won" simply shows his divisive attitude.

                                                    Your comment talking about "sides" is an admission of the division of our country. Leadership seeks to unite not to divide. Obama does not seek to unite, he seeks to wield his power in a very arrogant manner.

                                                    Yea, offering to compromise when you have Congress is really divisive. What about his healthcare plan???? It had a REPUBLICAN concept (individual mandate) and had no public option, much to my dismay!!!!! And you STILL blast him!!! You on the right need to shut up about divisiveness and look at your hateful and divisive Teabaggers and GOP candidates. Not giving wealthy people big tax returns is class warfare?????? Then I proudly call myself a class warrior. Sure beats waiting to be slaughtered on the battlefield.

                                                    OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                                                    • 5 votes
                                                    #6.23 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:39 PM EDT

                                                    Justified Defiance

                                                    Nugent has done more harm than good for the Romney campaign.

                                                    Instead of looking at the effects Nugent's comment has made on liberals, perhaps the average voter should be your focus.

                                                    The Romney campaign is marking him down as the worst celebrity endorsement they’ve yet received. On Tuesday, Nugent not only said that he stands by his previous words, but he also said that Romney agrees with him.

                                                    Since you don't bother to link your resources, I won't either, just Google it.

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #6.24 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:57 PM EDT

                                                    Limo- maybe he has done harm to people like you that have tunnel vision.
                                                    Mitt didn't throw him under the bus like Obama and the dems did when Rosen was running her pie hole and creating "mommy wars" though now did he. Rosen has been to the White House 35 times, but all of a sudden no one recalls seeing her there. Go figure, eh.

                                                    Maybe Nugent was right, from the recent Secret Service scandal it appears the elite of the elite did not care enough for their boss to take a bullet for him. Factor in all the czar-ships Obama has created, and it makes even more sense.
                                                    By the way, since the Secret Service was given to Nepolitano along with Homeland Security, how safe are you feeling right now?

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #6.25 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:03 PM EDT

                                                    Justified Defiance

                                                    I feel safer under Obama than I did under Bush. Bush killed 4000+ of his own kind on a vendetta.

                                                    The Secret Service scandal is just that. It happens no matter who is president and is irrelevant. If you wish to believe such scandals didn't occur in the past administrations, you are naive at best.

                                                    When political opinion is voiced and it stands at the borderline of vitriol, I expect the morally just to denounce it. However, we did not get that from Romney when Rush had his tirade.

                                                    There are three people with the name Ann Rosen that has visited the White House. The GOP is having a difficult time trying to tie her in to the administration. No evidence exists that she is on the president's payroll. But that doesn't stop the GOP from trying.

                                                    This tunnel vision you claim I have is what I call seeing just the facts. Those that take those blinders off tend to stray left or right. I see you've wandered off to the right.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #6.26 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:32 PM EDT

                                                    Limo, you lost all your creditability as having any chance of knowing what a fact is when you said.....

                                                    "We don't have a huge spending problem. Our government is smaller now than the Bush years"

                                                    That sir, was one of the most ridiculous comments i have read here.

                                                    We have a government that is completely ill-managed, fraught with fraud, abuse and criminality, overspends, under-performs, and wastes billions every month...Anyone who doesn't understand that the root problem is SPENDING and not revenue has no idea how badly our government operates with OUR money.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #6.27 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:56 PM EDT

                                                    JK1963... are you too ignorant to know how to search ...Fox news dumber...? Apparantly. Typical of you........Yeah there are too many websites to list. Try reading "my Pet Goat" while you are at it and don't forget to tune in the republicans most watched tv show, "Swamp People." These are facts....I know reality is hard for repubs to deal with, but when you learn to watch real news, you can mend those brain cells.

                                                      #6.28 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:02 AM EDT

                                                      starsailing,

                                                      Again, no citations (and explain why *I* have to do your research?), which only reinforces your belief in your supposed "superiority". Some day you will grow up and realize that that the vast majority of working Americans are just regular folks and not those that think they are superior to the rest of us. Like I said before...attitudes like yours are exactly why Americans despise people like you.

                                                        #6.29 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:49 AM EDT

                                                        Justified Defiance

                                                        Did you look it up? Perhaps I am some delusional slob that doesn't read?

                                                        http://www.ourdime.us/34/budgetinfo/decreasing-spending-alone-can%E2%80%99t-fix-the-budget-deficit/

                                                        Or perhaps you are.

                                                        It is only ridiculous to you and your ilk because you go by one source of information.

                                                        Before you chastise someone for their lack of facts, it would better suit you if you knew the facts yourself.

                                                        Any economist knows you can't cut our way out of the deficit. There isn't enough money between all the safety nets combined to do that.

                                                        The best you had to offer regarding a rebuttal was a few lines of HaHas.

                                                        You lost all credibility when you responded with that.

                                                        • 1 vote
                                                        #6.30 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:10 AM EDT

                                                        JK1963.....ok....take your finger out of your nose.......ok now take your mouse, drag it to search area, type in .....Fox news dumber, click on go....and there you are, chooses pages full of documentation why you are dumber for watching Fox news. Was that so hard? Apparantly yes. You can tell your servants what to do like Romney does, but I am not one of your servants. Next do search on fact ...YES THIS IS A FACT<that the majority of Americans realize and believe from FACTS that Pres Obama is improving the economy destroyed by the republicans. Then search any category on the economy and see that Pres Obama has turned the Bush depression around. Try and spin all you want, name calling like you always do to everyone, shows you to be the ignorant Fox news follower that NEVER has one fact. I just recieved $10,500 from the gov IRS for recovering over $220,000 several months ago from a millionaire tax cheater. So yes, I got money from the Gov. Damn proud of it. Nice to have you despise me, that means I am a real AMERICAN and I am presenting facts which your brain cannot process because...you...are ..dumber for watching Fox news.

                                                        • 2 votes
                                                        #6.31 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:01 AM EDT

                                                        starsailing,

                                                        Well...it's hard to argue with people like you that continue to take more from the government than they contribute. Talk about name calling?? "ignorant..."?? The only person here that resorts to name calling and doesn't bother to back up any alleged claims with no links and expects others to do the work for them (typical of a Democrat...)is you. And nice to see once again that you absolve yourself and your party of any negative contribution during the meltdown of our economy. I read all the time how you just love to bash Bush but forget that Democrats were in Congress during that time (and also held a majority) and yet act like they were hiding in a corner somewhere with no clue as to what to do. And I hate to break this to you that live off the government teet, that the economy is turning around because of private business IN SPITE of the historically high spending Obama has done.

                                                        The fact that you and Obama resort to class warfare really proves how low a class you really are...

                                                        Here's a suggestion...next time you want to make a useless comment...DON'T!

                                                          #6.32 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

                                                          Ted Nugent is Ted Nugent. His overzealous passion means nothing to most americans.

                                                            #6.33 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

                                                            JK1963, ......still have a hard time dealing with facts huh. Keep trying. Still too hard for you to try to do search on Fox news dumber huh? That says a lot about you. Have a hard time reading too? Take more from Gooberment then I give huh? One of my jobs, I got over...$220,000 for the ....government for $10,500 worth of work. Note the $10,500 is .....now watch...smaller than the $220,000! That means I take less than I give....Follow that? Also 26 years of volunteer work with no pay creating a National Park, that created 14 jobs plus for National Park Service people in the last 3 years. Just in the last 6 months they recieved funding and spent 1.5 million on land cleanup and relandscaping, hiring outside construction firms for the work. That is another 12-15 jobs. More jobs for replanting prairies etc on the property. 2 jobs for students at the U doing documetation of the history of the site which I am giving my 26 years of documentation for free to NPS. Last year 6 months free time working on the archeology team at this site with NPS....for free. I also created a few years back, a museum/interpretive site on an Indian treaty in our state. More archeology, more site cleanup, more construction work, more income from site visitors. More jobs for all these people while not taking a dime. Set up more history interpretation on another historical site, providing about a dozen jobs to maintain and tell the story, do restoration, which over a 100,000 school students have visited the past 10 years...all for free. Facilitate meetings between landowners of historic sites for land maintenence and proper care by law...for free.......etc, etc,......for free. It would take me a whole day to list all the time and money I give to the government, the state, and to citizens free. However, I don't expect any of that to register with you. This is what Dems do, this is what Republicans 30 years ago used to do, we worked together for the good of all Americans and not just the rich. Even bumbling Pres Reagan would not be allowed in the Republican party today, run by Norquist and Rove. Nixon and Eisenhower would be called left wing by the republiconns and Fox GOP news. The experts found out during the last great depression caused by the greedy rich, that cut spending only made the economy worse during depression. Do search on WPA programs, get educated. Roosevelt rescued the economy the greedy rich destroyed. Republicans announce they will try to do anything to get Pres Obama out and use record filibusters to stop the economy from recovering despite majority for a couple years. YES blame the Teabaggers and the rich for the mess. Class warfare was created by the rich, taking away rights of workers, pay, equal rights for women, taking welfare from the gov...That's us....taking subsidies from the gov...that's us, then like Romney the rich hide that money overseas in accounts in order to avoid paying their share of taxes. .........I think that is enough for your brain to process. If it is useless info for you.. you can always watch Fox news and become mindless, or spend time watching republican most watched show..Swamp People!

                                                              #6.34 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

                                                              Star,

                                                              The fact that you want me to look up your inane references (yet again...) is beyond believable. Be that as it may, here you are supposedly regaling us with your lifetimes accomplishments. Good for you. You make it sound as if we should give you a medal for supposedly taking a mere $10,500. Well..aren't you the humanitarian. Perhaps Obama can arrange to show you around the White House and pin a medal on your chest...

                                                              Geez...give it a rest... And just for your limited comprehension, I'm an independent...so all your chest beating about knowing what party I belong or vote for was all in vain... But like most Democrats, you would rather ASSUME that anyone who disagrees with you is beneath you or less superior (another disgusting trait of Democrats). Why don't you do some research and see who held the majority in Congress during the time of the economic meltdown and didn't do anything to stop it (the Democrats)? Why don't you take your fingers out your nose (your words, not mine) and google about how Obama was scaring the senior citizens last year when he said that he wouldn't be able to distribute their Social Security checks because there was no money (a bold faced lie). Why don't you do that kind of research instead of occupying your time proudly professing that you know what the supposed favorite tv show is of Republicans. Frankly, for as much as you talked about the show, it clearly shows that you must know more about it than any Republican. Perhaps you can all let us know when you will be starring in it, ok?

                                                              • 1 vote
                                                              #6.35 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

                                                              osslimo

                                                              Justified Defiance

                                                              I feel safer under Obama than I did under Bush. Bush killed 4000+ of his own kind on a vendetta.

                                                              The Secret Service scandal is just that. It happens no matter who is president and is irrelevant. If you wish to believe such scandals didn't occur in the past administrations, you are naive at best.

                                                              Yup, we had just a huge scandal during the Bush administration caused by some idiot publishing photos of US servicemen embarrassing muslims by forcing them to pose nude in various positions. About the only thing worse than that would to be showing disrespect for their dead. Wait.......what were those pictures that just came out. Why is that not all over the news?

                                                              • 1 vote
                                                              #6.36 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:13 PM EDT
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                                                              This is all Obama's got to run on....class warfare...and I bet he did get some help along the way....I want to know how he paid for his Harvard education....I want to see some college transcripts..why are they sealed...we all know he is a moron...so how did he manage to get into Harvard...

                                                              • 25 votes
                                                              #7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

                                                              Like you do not know the answer?

                                                              • 3 votes
                                                              #7.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

                                                              Ah, gotta love those conspiracy theories. Keep it up, show us your brilliance that you can see things nobody else (but maybe Rush/FOX) can see!

                                                              • 20 votes
                                                              #7.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                                                              Dixie Girl....I believe he got in on a scholarship. You know, one of those things you get when you are an ace student in high school and, possibly, junior college? Try doing some research before you make inane comments about things you could have found on by using Google......

                                                              • 26 votes
                                                              #7.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

                                                              Maybe he will show his college transcripts after he wins re-election. We all know that these low information voters that hate him would jump on any course they deem un-American, and raise all kinds of hell.

                                                              • 10 votes
                                                              #7.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

                                                              Didi what knid of grades did Obama get in High school? How about college. Funny all Obamas records seem to be sealed. Heck the media can not find any of his friends to comment. just a little strange isn't it especially for someone who is so personable. I bet they tried they could find hundreds of people who know me and I an far form famous. Scholerships are a funny thing. I got great grades in both but recieved no scholerships. Worked my way through Undergrad. It took 8 years because I had to work full time to support myself and pay for school. I ahd to borrow the money for grad school. Is there possably some other reason?

                                                              • 10 votes
                                                              #7.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

                                                              Dixiegirl: Our President got into Columbia and then Harvard law the same way as most people do..with good grades. How did he pay for it? He paid for ivy league education it the way my children do....loans and scholarships. Why is a good education something to you need to ridicule? Why does he need to show his transcripts to justify his level of education? As a single parent of children who worked hard and have acheived great things, I resent your implication that because he is black he somehow nefariously got into these schools....your name spokes volumes before you even typed a word.

                                                              • 20 votes
                                                              #7.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:36 PM EDT

                                                              Duane--nope.

                                                                #7.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:36 PM EDT

                                                                Duane...Scholerships are a funny thing. I got great grades in both but recieved no scholerships....I ahd to borrow the money for grad school. Is there possably some other reason?

                                                                I think I know why you didn't receive any scholarships. Basic spelling is a funny thing.

                                                                • 12 votes
                                                                #7.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

                                                                Teabaggers want the presidents transcripts....? Really...apparantly they can't read or search. I am still waiting for Bush to finish reading "My Pet Goat." While the nation was going up in flames, he froze and could not make a decision. Lucky for Bush Obama finished the job and got Bin Laden, saved the economy, and turned the economic mess around despite republicans and their Norquist pledge along with their pledges to bring the nation down by not letting Obama succeed in anything. 30 years of trickle on the middle class and poor is enough! Obama/Biden 2012!

                                                                • 9 votes
                                                                #7.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:07 PM EDT

                                                                right on starsailing. It would do no good for the president to release anything, since they still don't believe his birth certificate is genuine. You can't fix stupid and thirty years of a failing education system is starting to rear it's ugly head. I fear for our future as a civilized nation.

                                                                • 10 votes
                                                                #7.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

                                                                the failing education system is how Obama got elected

                                                                • 6 votes
                                                                #7.11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:40 PM EDT

                                                                He came here as a FOREIGN exchange student!

                                                                • 5 votes
                                                                #7.12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:48 PM EDT

                                                                Tony, so if Romney doesn't release his Tax records from 2000 - 2010 you would be ok with that right?

                                                                • 1 vote
                                                                #7.13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:05 PM EDT

                                                                To all of you misguided rednecks. Class warfare was coined by the republicans, not by Obama. Can't you people, for once, get something right....Geezz

                                                                • 10 votes
                                                                #7.14 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:07 PM EDT

                                                                Sticks-n-stones may hurt my bones; but, rednecks, biggots and right-wing nut jobs will never hurt me....

                                                                • 7 votes
                                                                #7.15 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:09 PM EDT

                                                                Dixie Girl - Barry applied for college aid as a foreign student, then denied he was a foreigner.
                                                                The Great Strategist of class warfare was Lenin...but Obama is working hard to beat him.

                                                                • 3 votes
                                                                #7.16 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:14 PM EDT

                                                                What's the matter Justified? Mad because Obama and dems changed college loans to make student aid more affordable by eliminating the profiteering middle man? Mad because Obama and dems want to bring back education funds to where they need to be to so our youth can have the chance to succeed? You seem to have this fixation with Lenin. Let's see your birth certificate comrade.

                                                                Why don't you try some real issues? You know like how the economy is improving in every category despite republiconns record filibusters trying to redestroy the country like they did under Bush?

                                                                • 2 votes
                                                                #7.17 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:21 AM EDT

                                                                Funny part about college transcripts. Only the student can request them and they are sealed when the student or intended recipient (another school or an employer) receives them. Apparently the people who are complaining about sealed transcripts are showing everyone they are both clueless and less educated than the President and they KEEP complaining because they have no idea those of us with educations know they are fake and phoney....so now you know, we know. Say it again so everyone will know...you never knew sealed transcripts are the norm because you never had college or university transcripts.

                                                                • 4 votes
                                                                #7.18 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:58 AM EDT

                                                                I also feel very sorry for those of you who fell for the April 1, 2009 "article" claiming the foreign student nonsense. It was an April Fool's hoax, and ya'll have been punk'd. Try doing a little "urban legend" search the next time.

                                                                • 2 votes
                                                                #7.19 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:06 AM EDT
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                                                                What is Obama's point? Are we supposed to believe that his publicly funded path thru life is some how better than Mitt Romney's private sector path? These young people need an example of someone like Romney. We, can't all be on public assistance. VOTE FOR CHANGE IN 2012!

                                                                • 25 votes
                                                                #8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

                                                                "These young people need an example of someone like Romney"???

                                                                Ahh...UAW....I don't know if you know this but only a select few are born into a situation like Mitt. Where money is and has never been a factor. Where your given access to the best schools and education. Where your given 1 million dollars from your father to do what you want with. This is no example that I want our young people to learn from. Being given everything isn't exactly what builds character.

                                                                • 11 votes
                                                                #8.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:37 PM EDT

                                                                It is the Democrat dream vipp. Everything needs to be given and not earned. Just listen to your President,

                                                                • 12 votes
                                                                #8.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:40 PM EDT

                                                                "Publicly funded" path thru life???? Was your grade school or high school education "publicly" funded or subsidized by the tax payers? You got a problem with that? Harvard??? Hmm a private institution last time I checked. Then again since Mr. Romneys' daddy had the connections........Obama, not so much. What's your point?????

                                                                • 8 votes
                                                                #8.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

                                                                Vipp, There is nothing wrong with the Romney family living their life with out the reliance on public assistance. Not everyone has a mother who made a poor choice of sperm donor. Some parents instill good values on their kids with out public assistance and the result is Mitt Romney. A far better example of leadership than we have now....

                                                                • 13 votes
                                                                #8.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                                                                UAW,

                                                                You mean a person like Mitt who stands on his princlipes and clings to his values which are pro choice, pro universal heathcare, pro mandate, believes in global warming, believed in cap and trade, and was for homosexual marriage?

                                                                Oh..you must be talking about the new Mitt who conveniently changed all of his "principles" and "values" to run for President....Yes...that's the leader we are looking for.

                                                                • 11 votes
                                                                #8.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

                                                                Come on Torpedo, "Romney's daddy had the connections"? Maybe Obama should help his family the way Mitt's dad helped his. I'm sure Aunt Zeituni on public assistance and drunk Uncle Onyango could use some of Obama's personal wealth instead of letting the tax payer foot the bill for them...

                                                                • 10 votes
                                                                #8.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

                                                                Vipp, I think Romney will be able to get support from both sides of the isle. Some times that means changing your mind. I highly doubt Obama is going to some how transform in to a better leader and get support from both sides of the isle in 2012....

                                                                • 5 votes
                                                                #8.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

                                                                Has Oblama ever had a job? Where did all his money come from when he was 'community organizer'? How did his wife get a job that went to $375,000 just about the time he became Senator? Have these people ever, ever had a real job?

                                                                Who paid for his education? With Romney, we know someone in the family worked. Their money was not given to them because of their race or politics.

                                                                Let's just let Oblama split the entire country in every possible way;worker-non-worker, rich-poor, Dem-Repub, black-white.

                                                                • 9 votes
                                                                #8.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:04 PM EDT

                                                                UAW:

                                                                Romney's parents were millionaires. Daddy was a president of American Motors and then a governor. Mitt didn't do anything - other than just accept the extra special privileges that were coming his way upon birth. His admission to an Ivy League School was taken for granted in the late 60's for the son of a governor. His position at Bain Capital undoubtedly came as a result of his Ivy League connections and his father's political career. It may not be as cut and dried today, but it certainly was then. I did like his father though. But then George Romney didn't tack to the wind.

                                                                • 8 votes
                                                                #8.9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:05 PM EDT

                                                                UAW,

                                                                So because Mitt can change his position when ever it's convenient you call him a better leader? He has supported almost every idea of Obama's in the past and you're confident that he is a better leader?

                                                                • 8 votes
                                                                #8.10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:08 PM EDT

                                                                Yes, It's one thing to have a position it's another thing to get support for it in congress. Romney will be better at that than Obama. If you have ever worked at a business when an obviously inexperienced person accidentally gets put in charge like Obama. The other more qualified workers seldom work with him. That is what is going on with Obama. Let's elect a better leader in 2012.....

                                                                • 6 votes
                                                                #8.11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

                                                                Bwahaha UAW - Romney is going to be told by Grover Norquist what to do if he gets in office. Independent thinking doesn't seem to be his strong suit. Which way is the wind blowing today?

                                                                • 3 votes
                                                                #8.12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:38 PM EDT

                                                                UAW:

                                                                Mitch McConnell made it clear on the first day of Obama's presidency that he wasn't going to cooperate on anything Obama wanted to do. Never in modern history has there been such resistance to a President by the minority party. Many undersecretary appointments were filibustered. Every major piece of legislation was filibustered. That complete and total opposition started when Obama swore over the Bible on 1-20-09. And it was just what McConnell promised on day one. I just want to vomit when you Republicans suggest that Obama is not a leader. FDR or Lincoln would have gotten the same crap from the likes of McConnell. And the fact that the GOP is led by the likes of McConnell means that the future of the country is bleak. And with all of the GOP House (every damn member) and most GOP Senators swearing fealty to Grover Norquist, everyone making less than $300K is doomed to diminishing public services and the decline of public education. The future of America is gated communities, thanks to the new fascists that currently run the House of Representatives and threaten to take over everything with the help of the Koch brothers and that crazy casino owner in Vegas. There is no spirit of community in the GOP. There is no noblisse oblige. There is just greed and intolerance. I never despised Gerald Ford or Howard Baker. I now despise almost all elected Republican officials (notable exceptions being Dick Lugar, Susan Collins, and Olympia Snowe). I despise about 25% of the Democrats too, but that is another story.

                                                                • 5 votes
                                                                #8.13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:41 PM EDT

                                                                UAW....Do you honestly believe the bull@!$%# you're spouting? I mean seriously!

                                                                Romney has had it made in the shade from his first breath, and even though I don't think it's a bad thing because I can really care less, to deny that FACT is totally disingenuous. Furthermore, to somehow claim that Obama has lived off of the government all of his life is even more disingenuous, because that would imply his grandfather, who served this country proud, was a freeloader too!

                                                                • 3 votes
                                                                #8.14 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:19 PM EDT

                                                                @ UAW: Funny. In my little community of roughly 13,000 our tax preparers saw more young people getting help filing their tax returns this year then they have seen in quite a few years. I don't know what goes on with the young in's in your community, but here the kids help their families any way they can. And, I don't think they were getting that incentive from the likes of Romney. Give me a break.

                                                                • 1 vote
                                                                #8.15 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:55 PM EDT

                                                                What is this obsession rightwingers have with poor people getting assistance? They go on and on about "moochers," but are fine with subsidizing oil companies or admiring of out-of-whack executive bonuses. A CEO fails to improve a business, and walks away with a golden parachute, he or she is given millions to leave, and Republicans are OK with that. An unemployed average Joe, however, is a drain on society and must be shamed, per Mitt Romney. Strange values.

                                                                • 3 votes
                                                                #8.16 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:27 PM EDT

                                                                UAW...you just can't handle the fact that every part of the economy Bush and republicans crashed has turned around and heading for the good.

                                                                UAW whines about Obama getting scholorship for working hard and getting the best grades while in school. What loans he did have he worked and paid them back. Unlike OUT OF TOUCH with reality Mitt who had everything given to him by daddy.

                                                                AMY you have it right. The repubs believe in Corporate welfare, tax breaks for the rich. Rich take more welfare from the government than any other source. Then they vote against closing tax break subsidies and regulation of offshore accounts to continue not having to pay their fair share of taxes. Romney welfare for the rich.

                                                                Obama/Biden 2012

                                                                • 3 votes
                                                                #8.17 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:34 AM EDT

                                                                Come on guys there is no doubt the liberal media has made Obama a like able guy. But no matter how they spin it they can't make him an effective president. Commonsense tells us we need a better leader who can work with both parties if this country is going to move forward. Obama has failed to do that and he's not likely to start doing it if he gets another 4 years. You need to put up a better candidate or stay home in November....

                                                                  #8.18 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:12 AM EDT
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                                                                  Romney's five sons had to face independent living with only $100,000,000.00 each. Mitt only got $1,000,000.00 from his father. See how great was his burden?

                                                                  The Buffett Rule closes loopholes and asks millionaires to pay at least as much as middle-class families, so that we can share the burden of reducing our deficit and investing in programs important to a strong middle class, like education, innovation and infrastructure.

                                                                  Romney not only opposes the Buffett Rule, but he wants to make things even more unfair. He will explode the deficit by giving more tax breaks to the wealthy -- and place the burden of paying for them on the backs of the middle class and seniors.

                                                                  This November, it's one or the other. We either stick with a President who fights for the middle class, or we choose a candidate who fights to protect an unfair status quo that benefits him at the expense of our economy and the middle class. You'll be hearing a lot about the Buffett Rule in the coming days. But remember this: It's not about class warfare, and it's certainly not about some arcane policy disagreement. It's about common-sense fairness.

                                                                  If you're still curious about what the Buffett Rule would actually do, take a look around the new website now:

                                                                  http://my.barackobama.com/Buffett-Rule-Calculator

                                                                  • 13 votes
                                                                  Reply#9 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

                                                                  The Buffett rule is DOA in the democratically controlled Senate. Now about the BILLION dollars he owes in unpaid back taxes? Perhaps the Buffett rule should be fail to pay a billion go to prison?

                                                                  • 1 vote
                                                                  #9.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

                                                                  So affinity,

                                                                  How come Barack didn't feel the need to pay MORE than he was required to pay? Way to lead by example... He stands there and complains about how broken the tax system is (and it is...) and yet only pays what he is required to pay using those same rules. It's funny how that works out isn't it... And here you have Buffet, whose company owes millions in back taxes and penalties whining because he paid a lower tax rate than his secretary. You know, for a billionaire...he really should pay his secretary alot more, don't you think?

                                                                  • 2 votes
                                                                  #9.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:29 PM EDT
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                                                                  by god does the right wake up on the wrong side of the bed or what.

                                                                  Why do we have to incentivize the rich by lowering tax rates for them to continue working but the logic to get the poor to work is to remove any govt assistence. The very opposite approach. Isnt it amazing we need to give money to the rich for them to work "hard" and make life more difficult to get the poor to work. Why if your methods work dont they work for all?

                                                                  • 16 votes
                                                                  Reply#10 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

                                                                  I think you need to take a paxil. Half this country is on the dole one way or the other and OBummer has created a mountain of debt that our childrens children will NEVER be able to repay to the Chinese.

                                                                  Jello heads!

                                                                  • 9 votes
                                                                  #10.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:37 PM EDT

                                                                  Sloppy

                                                                  They can shovel manure and call it roses and even believe it if they want. But no matter how much they twist and lie it is still crap in there hands.

                                                                  • 8 votes
                                                                  #10.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

                                                                  Half this country is on the dole one way

                                                                  I dare say it is way over half. Anyone who claimed EIC, mortgage deductions, property tax or charity deductions, child exemptions on their taxes are on the public dole. Anyone on using medicare or on Social Security is on the public dole. Wanna try using another tactic to play the victim role, because trust me, the probability that YOU are on the pubic dole is high?

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                                                                  #10.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

                                                                  RedDev.....excuse me, but people collecting Social Security and/or Medicare are NOT on the public dole. They are using the money they've been paying in during their ENTIRE working lives! Unlike Welfare, Food Stamps, etc., these are NOT considered as being something that's coming out of taxpayer's money...except for the money that these taxpayers already paid! God, I hate it when people keep thinking that Social Security and Medicare are "entitlements," when they KNOW that they've already been paid for by the people using them! Maybe you ought to talk to your GOP buddies about all the IOU's in the Social Security and Medicare Funds.....the ones they don't want to pay back!

                                                                  • 10 votes
                                                                  #10.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

                                                                  Nice distortion Didi ! Who moved Social Security into the General Fund ? Which President Didi ??

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                                                                  #10.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

                                                                  Didi - I'm with you. I paid into SS for over 50 years and contrary to what these yahoos think Medicare isn't free. It's deducted every month our of my SS check and I have to buy supplementary health and drug insurance because it doesn't pay for everything. In addition I paid into Medicare since 1965. This isn't a free lunch.

                                                                  • 3 votes
                                                                  #10.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:03 PM EDT

                                                                  Jim:

                                                                  George W. Bush did not count Social Security surpluses in his deficits. For the first time, his administration blended the general fund with social security for budgetary purposes. He borrowed from S.S. to make his budgets look about 200 billion better. What Obama did is say that Social Security surpluses will not be blended into the overall budget. He actually made the accounting honest again. As for the temporary payroll tax cuts, Republicans agreed those would not be offset with other revenues or cuts. Obama proposed that the temporary payroll cuts be paid for by increases in millionaire's taxes. Of course, the GOP will never vote to increase a millionaire's taxes again - even in a World War.

                                                                  • 3 votes
                                                                  #10.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:11 PM EDT

                                                                  Oh Jimmy poo, not only did Bush borrow from S.S. he did not put the cost of the two wars he started into the budget. Again, Pres Obama removes the republican smoke and mirrors and brings the budget back into reality so taxpayers can deal with the reality of the damage Repubs did to the debt.

                                                                  Did I mention people are dumber for watching Fox news? Do the search ....Fox news dumber. Did I mention that the guy who planned creation of Fox news called it GOP news! This was back under Nixon. Mr. Aires then helped set up Fox news with Rupert. Drink the Kool-Aid from Fox then vote against your own interests......ahahahahahaha........Leave our Soc sec alone...then they vote repubs who create the Ryan plan to end it.........How stupid is that?......Really could that not be more dumber to do? Duh!

                                                                  Obama / Biden 2012

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                                                                  #10.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:12 PM EDT

                                                                  Didi, please answer Jim's questions: "Who moved Social Security into the General Fund ? Which President Didi ??

                                                                  I also have a question for you: Are Social Security Beneficiaries now on the public teat?

                                                                  • 1 vote
                                                                  #10.9 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:19 AM EDT

                                                                  BeyondDEMOCRAT

                                                                  What you just posted doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense.

                                                                  Lyndon Johnson was the first president to put SSI "on budget" which means that it was used to make his administration's financial policies look better than they actually were which is the same thing Bill Clinton did

                                                                  By charter the Fed is required to purchase SSI surpluses with Treasury notes.

                                                                    #10.10 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:37 PM EDT
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                                                                    Does this President think before he speaks?

                                                                    What an embarrassment. Lets make everyone poor. Then it will be level.

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                                                                    Reply#11 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

                                                                    It's hard for me to understand how you could argue with his message.

                                                                    • 6 votes
                                                                    #11.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

                                                                    Taking more from the rich and giving to others is not redistribution of wealth. More manure shoveling. he has been given everything and expects us not to know it. and tries to say Romney is any different?

                                                                    I do not know what you smoke but I do not want any of it. It obviously makes you Blissful.

                                                                    • 8 votes
                                                                    #11.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

                                                                    Make everyone poor? That would be awesome! Finally we could see just how hard those rich people worked to make their money compared to the people who work to survive! I'm sure they'd be rich again in no time considering they're such dedicated workers!! :D

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                                                                    #11.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:50 PM EDT

                                                                    It's hard for me to understand how you could argue with his message.

                                                                    VIPP - the right wing nut jobs are to blind to see that the true wealth distribution that has occurred in the past 30 years has been from the middle class to the wealthy. Until they see that, their is no use in debating these losers. They are simply shills for the wealthy and corporations.

                                                                    • 4 votes
                                                                    #11.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

                                                                    A silver spoon wouldn't fit in Obama's mouth - his forked tongue gets in the way.

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                                                                    #11.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

                                                                    make everyone poor ? then who the heck is going to pay for all the poor people ?

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                                                                    #11.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

                                                                    Obama's train of thought hasn't gotten the point of where is the welfare money going to come from. His only concern is "fairness", as his convoluted mind interprets as all of us being dirt poor, except for Obama and his Kommisars.

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                                                                    #11.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:30 PM EDT

                                                                    The class warfare is the rich taking from the middle class and poor. Trickledown on the middle and poor is the redistribution of wealth to the wealthy. Since 1980 the rich are getting richer, everyone else is losing.These are facts. Now that the nation needs to return balance back to fair fed tax rates the rich cry they don't have enough. They want to crash the economy by giving even more tax breaks to the 1%. Trying to say the rich have class warfare on them while they crashed the econmy and nation with their greed is insanity and the usual spin.

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                                                                    #11.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:31 PM EDT

                                                                    RedDev,

                                                                    Apparently, some leftwing nut-jobs foam at the mouth to such an extent that they experience high-pressure brain farts that cause them to use improper grammar while writing their inane rants.

                                                                    For example, they accuse right wingers of being “to” (too) blind to see the truth, and until they see that, “their” (there) is no use in debating us losers.

                                                                    I imagine that many of them must gargle while sitting on the toilet to avoid any unpleasant accidents when getting ready to go to their socialist party meeting.

                                                                      #11.9 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:52 AM EDT
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                                                                      What is mine is NOT yours......

                                                                      Not yet at least.......

                                                                      Jello heads!

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                                                                      Reply#12 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

                                                                      rukidding47: I think that's what the GOP is planning on doing already!

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                                                                      #12.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:26 PM EDT
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                                                                      Romney has all of the money . However, President Obama is a smarter and a better man than Romney will ever be. Also, Romney want be able to beat President Obama. So Willard come back for another whooping in 2016.

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                                                                      Reply#13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

                                                                      How do you know that Obama is Smarter or Better for that matter? And why do type in broken English.

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                                                                      #13.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

                                                                      Because he is a smarter man. That much is obvious. He's also never taken over a firm and fired half the workers and called it "an improvement"...or strapped a dog to the roof of his car...and his wife doesn't claim to have all the problems of a typical mother when she has 3 nannies to take care of the kids while she social climbs.

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                                                                      #13.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

                                                                      It is easy to see that President Obama is smarter, much more honest, definitely more concerned for all Americans and determined to keep the GOP from their agenda to harm the middle class, women, the poor, and children, from ending Medicare and Social Security. President Obama and Democrats are protecting the air, water and land, savng our economy. When it comes to telling the truth President Obama is the only one of the two who is not flipping and flopping with lies constantly.

                                                                      • 10 votes
                                                                      #13.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:33 PM EDT

                                                                      Vicki,

                                                                      Your response makes you appear to be quite gullible. Obama has contradicted Obama on many many issues:

                                                                      Closing Gitmo

                                                                      Balancing the Budget and Raising debt limits

                                                                      Reducing the national debt which he promised within his first two years

                                                                      Not making excuses and taking responsibility for the economy

                                                                      Attacking another country that was not a National Security threat without Congressional approval

                                                                      Televising the health care debates on C-Span while the doors were locked to Republicans

                                                                      Not raising taxes (read Obamacare and see how many sneaky little taxes are contained therein)

                                                                      No, Obama does not lie CONSTANTLY, he is merely consistent with the pattern of his lies.

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                                                                      #13.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

                                                                      Smarter and more honest? Then why are all of his school records sealed? He could close this arguement in a snap of his fingers but would piss off most of his supporters!!!

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                                                                      #13.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:37 PM EDT

                                                                      Job1, are you using "ebonics"?

                                                                        #13.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:39 PM EDT

                                                                        Vicki-341829

                                                                        What proof do you have of that. Remember that Romney and Obama both went to the same college where Romney earned a dual degree in business and law. Beyond that he has worked in the real world and has real world experience.

                                                                        I'm not all that happy about his religion but in this country we are suppose to be tolerant of those that believe differently but you Reich Wing (left wing) followers don't seen to believe that.

                                                                          #13.7 - Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:24 PM EDT
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                                                                          In contrast, Romney was born with silver foot in his mouth. (Paraphrasing that wonderful Texan, Ann Richards)

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                                                                          Reply#14 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

                                                                          So glad you quote admitted alcoholics as your source of record. Credibility = 0.

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                                                                          #14.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

                                                                          Well, jim...we can all hope the Ann Richards story will inspire John Boehner to get some much needed help. Jobs bills = 0.

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                                                                          #14.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:23 PM EDT
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                                                                          Obama is correct. They are not born with silver spoons in hand in Africa. Not really sure what they use over there, maybe a goat or chicken in hand perhaps?

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                                                                          Reply#15 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

                                                                          Jonathan is a birther stooge. President Obama was born in Hawaii but that right wing loves to lie and have sheep like you. Stoogified.

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                                                                          #15.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:36 PM EDT

                                                                          Congratulations, Jonathan. That was, by far, the most racist comment I've read today. Do you realize that even many Christians throughout history considered Ethiopia (that's in Africa, by the way...and Africa is not a country, regardless of what Sarah Palin says) to be the cradle of civilization? Have you ever heard of Egypt?

                                                                          Please do not ever wonder why anyone with more than a 5th grade education would consider teabaggers to be racist and ignorant.

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                                                                          #15.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:39 PM EDT

                                                                          Shock...

                                                                          It never ceases to amaze me how people like you can turn any comment into an issue about race. Why don't you try and not use a person's race as an excuse for failure? I'm sure Barack would thank you!

                                                                            #15.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:34 PM EDT

                                                                            JK - Stating that people in Africa eat with a goat or chicken in hand may not be racist in your world, but, in the civilized world, stating that everyone on the African continent are too backward to eat with silverware is racist. Perhaps you should educate yourself about what racism is and how it is expressed. It doesn't get much more blatant than that.

                                                                            You may also wish to educate yourself on the KKK propaganda used in the late 60's/early 70's...attacking someone for calling out a racist statement by saying that "people like me" (the bad, evil "other") turn EVERYTHING into an issue about race is right up the KKK alley. I'm sure that is just an oversight on your part.

                                                                            How is Rush Limbaugh doing?

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                                                                            #15.4 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

                                                                            Vicki - a birther stooge? You're an idiot. It was a joke. Im actually fairly liberal.

                                                                            Shock - Where did I say they are too backward to eat with silverware? I didnt. My statement isnt racist at all. You do realize not all Africans are black right? So how can it be racist? I fail to see any correlation to your mention of Egypt to what my comment was. I guess my fault was in not saying it according to your views of political correctness. Way to fail buddy. It was a joke, nothing more with 0 racist implications attached. The use of goat/chicken was a denotation that the entire world considers Africa to be a 3rd world - or poor. So they wouldnt have silver spoons. It was also making a joke out of people that say Obama wasnt born here. Thanks for ruining the joke for everyone. A$$wipe.

                                                                              #15.5 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

                                                                              Jonathan...the failure is on your part. What was the point in irrelevantly bringing up Africa? I'm not sorry that I "ruined" what you call a "joke". Your inability to communicate seems to be more of the issue, here. Is it everyone else's fault that you are misunderstood?

                                                                              Again...Africa is not a country. Egypt is in Africa. When you make a generalized comment about all of Africa, you also include all of the countries within Africa (and the population of Egypt is now predominately Arab - who are biologically considered to be Caucasian. You actually got my point without realizing that you got my point.) Let's not even discuss South Africa - parts of which are even more civilized than many parts of the U.S. (and, again...South Africa is a country in Africa).

                                                                              Your second response came across as someone that was caught saying something bad and inflammatory rather than someone that has been misunderstood making a bad joke. I stand by my comment as you have done nothing to persuade me to think otherwise. Throwing a fit and calling me a vulgar name only served to make you look worse than you did before.

                                                                              P.S. I am not your "buddy"

                                                                                #15.6 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:46 PM EDT

                                                                                Shockedanddisgusted

                                                                                A while back Pollack jokes were popular. So if I make a joke about people from Poland does that make me a racist?

                                                                                  #15.7 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:22 PM EDT

                                                                                  Rick, rick, rick. Asking if an action would make you something would seem to imply that you are not that something already. I guess it could be sort of a zen thing...Can you make a rock a rock?

                                                                                  ...and my answer to your question would be yes - even though you already knew the answer.

                                                                                    #15.8 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

                                                                                    Shockedanddisgusted

                                                                                    So just to be sure making disparaging remarks about a person based on their ethnicity or their race would be considered racist no matter who you were making those remarks about.

                                                                                      #15.9 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

                                                                                      Do you need to have the word defined for you, Rick?

                                                                                      I realize you are trying to set me up for something...go for it Rick.

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                                                                                      #15.10 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

                                                                                      Shockedanddisgusted

                                                                                      I know what the word means it is the liberals that seem to be having a really big problem with it. I am from the South and there are so many of you that want to talk of inbreeding and lack of high IQ just based on where we live. I'm sick of your hypocrisy.

                                                                                      I just wanted to get a commitment from you so I could nail your ass the next time you were guilty of bigotry.

                                                                                        #15.11 - Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

                                                                                        Nail my ass? How "Deliverance" of you.....

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                                                                                        #15.12 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:51 PM EDT

                                                                                        Shock - Wrong. As you have seen several people got my joke. You simply did not. You are the one with the inability to understand or pick up on it. Now that you took your stand you have to stick with it apparently.

                                                                                        You show your continued ignorance in assuming someone doesnt know about something. Such as your repeated references to Africa and Egypt. Ive lived there by the way.

                                                                                        Youre ignorance is paramount in assuming I was an uneducated idiot by my original post which was a joke. My secound response was not in any way the reponse of someone caught "doing something bad" as you imply. Im simply trying to explain it to a moron. Not sure why I wasted my breathe to be honest. I thought perhaps you were educated and might understand but oh no, youre a self righteous jerk plain and simple.

                                                                                        And my point in mentioning Africa, I thought you were educated - sorry, was that some people do not beleive Obama was born in the US.

                                                                                        P.S. I wouldnt want you as my buddy after realizing what kind of person you really are.

                                                                                          #15.13 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:45 AM EDT
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                                                                                          Did Obama make this comment from his $1.2 bus (made in Canada) that the taxpayers pay to ship to his fundraising stops? Or was it from his $9000 a night Hawaiin bungalo? Or was it forwarded thru Michelle's megabucks vacation in Europe?

                                                                                          It's really hard to buy the "down home" poor boy line from Obama but maybe that's what's on the teleprompter so he doesn't have anything else to say?

                                                                                          Wonder if he's planning an inaugeration ball to top the last one they spent $35 million on.

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                                                                                          Reply#16 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

                                                                                          First of all, the bus was donated for his use; second of all, the Hawaiian bungalow was also loaned to him by a friend. As for the teleprompter.....what an asinine thing to say. ALL PRESIDENTS USE A TELEPROMPTER.....get over it for crying out loud!! If that's all you have to complain about, you need to get a life! I've even seen the "Mitt" using one....can you complain about that?

                                                                                          As for inaugeration balls....those are put on by various groups.....complain to them about the money they spend, okay?

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                                                                                          #16.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

                                                                                          donated for his use! Ordered and paid for by Secret Service directly for him with funds from the taxpayers!

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                                                                                          #16.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

                                                                                          The Secret Service contract with the Hemphill Brothers Coach Co. was actually for two armored buses, and a total of $2,191,960, according to federal government procurement records.

                                                                                          Donated? Haaaaa Haaaaaaaaa

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                                                                                          #16.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:44 PM EDT
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                                                                                          It should be about redistribution of wealth, because that's what the GOP is working so hard for. They want to ensure that the middle and lower classes pay their fair share of the tax cuts we give to the wealthy. Tell me that's not redistribution of wealth toward those who need it least!

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                                                                                          Reply#17 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

                                                                                          The GOP believes that the middle class and poor have too much, and the wealthy don't have enough. Their mission is to correct that terrible imbalance.

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                                                                                          #17.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

                                                                                          What a stupid comment. The GOP beleives in personal responibilty. You work hard and you earn money. Not as the Dems which beleive you deserve what everyone else has , wether you work hard or not.

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                                                                                          #17.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

                                                                                          Real hope

                                                                                          It is just more spin. Desperate people grasp at anything. No ideas no hope no candidate.=NO Chance. So spin baby spin.

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                                                                                          #17.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

                                                                                          Hope, that is false. The GOP believes in what they want. They couldn't even be responsible for paying for their own wars. They insist they're about personal responsibility and keeping govt out of people's lives, right up until someone does something they disapprove of. Then suddenly it's all about legislating their view of morality because other people's "personal responsibility" doesn't fit their right-wing belief system. You can't have it both ways, but that's exactly what they fight for. Women should have the right to choose to be wives/mothers, because a woman's choice is important! But oh wait, right to choose to have an abortion, that's something we can't allow her to decide for herself, we must stop her at all costs!!

                                                                                          C'mon, seriously? Still think anyone's buying that personal responsibility garbage?

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                                                                                          #17.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

                                                                                          Congrats, Stephen. Stupid post of the year.

                                                                                          Is your Welfare check late? Get a job, pay your taxes, and then learn how the rest of us live. Watch the federal government you love so much fritter-away your tax dollars (From those of us work to those of you and yours with your palm up).

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                                                                                          #17.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

                                                                                          In fact I have quite a good job and make a comfortable living. But nice try as you attempt the standard lies to make people who disagree with you out to be some lower form of life. I wouldn't be surprised if I make more than you. However I happen to have a soul (and, to again counter your lies, a brain) to go with that lifestyle. What's your excuse?

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                                                                                          #17.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:22 PM EDT

                                                                                          Obama promised to half the deficit in 4 years. he's only added 6 trillion to it. it's that same deficit that the middle class will end up being burdened with. so it's the ultimate liberal hypocrisy when Obama says he's for helping the middle class and then goes out and continues the wasteful spending that will ultimately destroy the middle class. happy liberal fool's day

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                                                                                          #17.7 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:34 PM EDT

                                                                                          If the rich are paying their fair share in taxes, why do they hide hundreds of Billions of dollars in off shore accounts not paying taxes on it? Why do they vote against bills that require companies and individuals who hide their money in these accounts, to start paying taxes on this money they bleed out of the United Staes. Use all the ground work for supporting your companies, bleeding all the money out of the country for record profits, then not paying taxes on that profit. THIEVES. All at the middle class and poor expense.

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                                                                                          #17.8 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

                                                                                          Realhope....thanks for the laugh. When BushII and Cheney dig in their pockets and pay for the war in Iraq, then you will have a little bit of credibility. Personal responsibility....HA! When asked how he could vote for passing the Medicare part D fiasco without knowing how to pay for it, your old master, Orrin Hatch, said, "We didn't think of how to pay for things back then."

                                                                                          Personal responsibility?!?!?!? My guess is that it is just another catch phrase to help the already ignorant pretend that the Republican Party of the past 2 decades didn't really exist. Nice try.

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                                                                                          #17.9 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:22 PM EDT

                                                                                          Stephen-3584703

                                                                                          If that is true why did the poor and middle class end up paying so much less in taxes than they did before the tax cuts?

                                                                                            #17.10 - Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:34 PM EDT
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                                                                                            The right wing nuts are proving again how ridiculously biased and hateful they are. Good work chumps. Any reasonable person can see this by reading the first 10 posts, or less.

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                                                                                            Reply#18 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

                                                                                            LOL, its not hate, its honesty!!!!

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                                                                                            #18.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

                                                                                            They believe honesty is hate.

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                                                                                            #18.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:50 PM EDT

                                                                                            no...unless it involves tax cuts for the rich, unbridled Wall St thievery, going to war or carrying guns everywhere they go... it's hate that drives the tea-baggers onward. Or maybe I should say "backward".

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                                                                                            #18.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

                                                                                            tax breaks for the rich:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPh-qGcYruw

                                                                                            from 2003.

                                                                                              #18.4 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:09 PM EDT

                                                                                              I dont think I have ever met more nasty, mean spirited, name calling people than liberals. Why are they so angry ?

                                                                                              For years I worked in an HIV office and there were 7 people full time. Two were republicans, one independent, and the rest liberals. Very, very liberal. When the HIV patients were sick the two republicans (whom were straight), they would on their own time and money - visit patients, take them food, run simple errands, visit them in hospital or even attend their funerals. the liberals, spent their entire time complaining about Pres Bush. Never once donating a single dime or any time - two were gay men. That's what I learned from liberals - angry complainers who think they are due everything and dont do anything for anyone from their heart. Also, they are a bunch of followers!

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                                                                                              #18.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:14 PM EDT

                                                                                              follow the money - have you followed all the money Obama received in 2008? All that money from those wall streeters you liberals despise. how hilarious the hypocrisy.

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                                                                                              #18.6 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

                                                                                              hypocrisy..........doing something very illegal, like this:

                                                                                              http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2655260104684404687#

                                                                                              exceeding the authority of the presidency, torturing in your name,

                                                                                              exceeding Congress, the Constitution. What these men did, would you really consider this, really protecting the people against all enemies, both foreign and domestic?

                                                                                              "Power of the Presidency"...

                                                                                                #18.7 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:27 AM EDT

                                                                                                Speaking of fraud on Wall Street,

                                                                                                Dear Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur, I hope you catch these villains!:

                                                                                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n9kRXRolZQ

                                                                                                  #18.8 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:54 AM EDT

                                                                                                  Prober,

                                                                                                  Do you mean the kind of hate that you direct toward others? Or are you talking about the kind of hate that you say others direct toward you?

                                                                                                  Is your hate more acceptable than their hate? Or should we believe that their hate is based on truth?

                                                                                                    #18.9 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:12 AM EDT

                                                                                                    I dont think I have ever met more nasty, mean spirited, name calling people than liberals

                                                                                                    You've got to be kidding.

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                                                                                                    #18.10 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:10 AM EDT

                                                                                                    @Arkius..."Is your hate more acceptable than their hate? Or should we believe that their hate is based on truth?" Sounds like you are trapped in a tunnel in a head on collision in your mind here buddy. What are those of us out here reading this to believe about what you think is the truth? Who is "we" anyway, and how many of those are there in there? Oh my, really? LOL!!!

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                                                                                                    #18.11 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:18 AM EDT

                                                                                                    Anonymous Insight

                                                                                                    First of all, I’m not your buddy. None of my friends are intellectual frauds.

                                                                                                    Second, psychologically and philosophically, you are in way over your head, and I advise you to stop where you are before I embarrass you more than you’ve already embarrassed yourself.

                                                                                                      #18.12 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:32 AM EDT

                                                                                                      Maybe Alan Greenspan learned his bad habits from those eight years he worked for Bill Clinton. Although Bernie Sanders calls himself an independent he sure acts a hell of a lot like a liberal democrat in that he seems to have his head up his ass.

                                                                                                      We were warned in the early eighties that the Industrial Age was drawing to a close. You could blame Ronald Reagan for not preparing for that but you would have to blame Bill Clinton even more as he had the resources and the foundation of the industry that could have taken us into the new information age. Why didn't he encourage the continuance of the dot com industry instead of attacking it with the anti trust investigation of Microsoft in 2000? An investigation that caused the collapse of the dot com boom that produced the Clinton surplus that you left wingers crow about constantly.

                                                                                                        #18.13 - Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:49 PM EDT
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                                                                                                        The President doesn't need to overplay his hand on this. The perception of Romney is that he is mega-rich and out of touch with ordinary folks. He does a good enough job of maintaining that perception himself without any outside help.

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                                                                                                        Reply#19 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

                                                                                                        I think Obama is out of touch with America, or what it is to be American. I dont care if Romney's rich or successful - his family worked hard to get that. Why be embarrassed of that ? Why be embarrassed of working hard at school and graduate with honours. Romney is the American dream of success which can be reached by anyone who works hard. Why not comment on all the Hollywood liberals ? Look at the large amounts of cash they have - not that generous really. Brad Pitt buying that huge ring, so many people starving in this world ? How many people do you think that ring could feed ? How many surgeries would half of Dwyane Wade's salary pay for that could save lives ? If Oprah donated half of her wealth how many homes can we buy for the poor... would she even notice the money missing ? How much do you really need to live ? Yet you attack Romney for this ? Class warfare all they way - lead by Obama and you got fed a lie.

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                                                                                                        #19.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:20 PM EDT

                                                                                                        cbatch007

                                                                                                        Did you watch the video of the President speaking, or just read the headline FR choose, because the headline is misleading.
                                                                                                        "I wasn't born with a silver spoon" was just a throw away line. Listen to the video of the President, don't go with the journalist's interpretation. The President's speech was very inspiring.

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                                                                                                        #19.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:30 PM EDT

                                                                                                        Wilfred, you wrote: "The President doesn't need to overplay his hand on this. The perception of Romney is that he is mega-rich and out of touch with ordinary folks." Could you tell the readers where you got this bit of information from, i.e., cite a source. Otherwise, we have no reason to believe it, it's just subjective hogwash.

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                                                                                                        #19.3 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:17 AM EDT

                                                                                                        @Arkius...1) define subjective hogwash, 2) sources? Please re-read Wilfred's last sentence: "He does a good enough job of maintaining that perception himself without any outside help."

                                                                                                        Let me explain this to you. Romney's own speeches, and he, himself is the information source you need. That is all, period.

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                                                                                                        #19.4 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:04 AM EDT

                                                                                                        It's definition time for Anonymous Insight and the other eighth graders.

                                                                                                        Subjective: Something that is biased or prejudiced, i.e., skewed.

                                                                                                        Hogwash: Nonsense, gibberish, etc, etc.

                                                                                                        Since you seem to have the IQ of a naive 14 year old, I think it’s you, rather than me, that is clearly in need of a good explanation: When, during the course of a discussion or debate, someone asks the other party to cite a source, they are asking for specifics, and not generalities. Scroll way up to my post #4.50 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:32 AM EDT to Freshieee, and read through my comments carefully. If you have any capacity at all to read and comprehend, you will find the perfect example of what it means to cite sources.

                                                                                                        Now, if you’re not willing and/or able to cite sources upon request to support your arguments during a discussion or debate, then I suggest you limit your conversations to the other little kids you hang with, and leave the difficult dialogue to the adults. Oh, and BTW, you don’t have the intellectual authority to close all discussion on a topic. So ending your comments by saying “period” only makes you look silly and immature.

                                                                                                          #19.5 - Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:16 AM EDT
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                                                                                                          Actually Obama was born having the Communist Manifesto read to him as a little boy. I would prefer that he had been fed with a silver spoon as would most Americans!

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                                                                                                          Reply#20 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

                                                                                                          And Romney was raised by fairies and moonbeams. What's your point?

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                                                                                                          #20.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

                                                                                                          Putting down the president with right wing filthy lies shows how pathetic you Fake News watchers really are. It is not being honest. It is being hateful, spiteful, evil, and doing it because you are liars.

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                                                                                                          #20.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:46 PM EDT

                                                                                                          Vicki--made me think of one of Senator Franken's so wonderfully titled books: "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them".

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                                                                                                          #20.3 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:52 PM EDT

                                                                                                          Vicki,

                                                                                                          I have some bad news for you.

                                                                                                          “If we don't wake up as a nation with a new kind of leadership...for how we want this country to work, then we won't get universal health care,"

                                                                                                          "The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more."

                                                                                                          The idea that someone who already has ownership of some thing, has to give up a piece of it, so that someone else can have more, is a foundational principal of communism.

                                                                                                          Do these sound like the ideas of the leader that you willingly chose to passionately defend? These are the ideas of someone who wants to destroy capitalism, the economic foundation of your country. Are you really so naïve that you will let someone do that without even trying to reason with Mitt Romney’s ideas and then make an informed decision about who you’ll support on election day?

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                                                                                                          #20.4 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:57 AM EDT

                                                                                                          Stephan,

                                                                                                          Sorry, I couldn't find anything to disprove your argument that Romney was raised by fairies and moonbeams. You have convinced me that he is indeed an extraordinary man. I hope Vicki reads this.

                                                                                                            #20.5 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:04 AM EDT

                                                                                                            Reading the posts by the followers of Obama reminds me of Ann Coulter's book "Demonic" which describes the rock idol mentality of the left wing and how they believe their political "rock stars" can do no wrong.

                                                                                                              #20.6 - Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

                                                                                                              Rick,

                                                                                                              After reading the comment of Obama's apologists, I think Ayn Rand should write a special book just for them titled: Atlas scratched his balls.

                                                                                                                #20.7 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:03 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                If it were not for hard working people like Mitt, Obama would not have had the easy life he has had. His toughest job, comunity organizer, REALLY!!! Obama has a lot of nerve. He do not understand the value of the dollar. Economics were not is strong subject. He was more into being a lawyer and learning to deceive people. Mitt 2012!!

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                                                                                                                Reply#21 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

                                                                                                                Oh yes, Mitt has worked so hard being born into money. With all his servants, it was really tough to get by.

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                                                                                                                #21.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

                                                                                                                are you one of those people who admires people just for being rich, regardless of how many jobs they shipped overseas in the process of making their millions? Cause, I'm not.

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                                                                                                                #21.2 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:33 PM EDT

                                                                                                                indigo4

                                                                                                                Oh yes, Mitt has worked so hard being born into money. With all his servants, it was really tough to get by.

                                                                                                                Politifact says that is only half-true. So that proves what I have said about you liberals all along. That you are attempting to accomplish your leftist agenda by spreading lies and half-truths

                                                                                                                http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jan/20/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-he-didnt-inherit-money-his-parent/

                                                                                                                  #21.3 - Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:35 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                  Boy what a stink over 50 billion over 10 days. How Bout Obama And Bush Give us back the 10 trillion they've waisted... Then Ill worry about the 50 billion over 10 years.

                                                                                                                    Reply#22 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

                                                                                                                    I don't look down on anyone who comes from money. I hope when I leave this world, I have left my childen with money and the ability to make their own. I don't care if Obama has always led a priveledged life, but saying otherwise just pisses me off. He went to private schools. He says that someone gave him a chance....yes, it was his grandparents. How about giving the poor kids in DC the same chance that your own kids have. Let a few of them have a voucher to go to private school. It will piss of the teachers unions, but it is the right thing and it will save the taxpayers money.

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                                                                                                                    Reply#23 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

                                                                                                                    So, if he can afford to pay more, did he break out his checkbook and make a donation to the Treasury Department? Anyone can, it's perfectly legal.

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                                                                                                                    Reply#24 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

                                                                                                                    1.) The Obamas paid for their post secondary educations with scholarships and student loans (of which it took them years to pay off).

                                                                                                                    2.) I like the words in this speech.

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                                                                                                                    #25 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:45 PM EDT