First Thoughts: Romney's immigration challenge

Romney’s immigration challenge… What Beth Myers heading up Romney’s VP search means…. Three very different polls in the Obama-Romney race… Romney to Obama: “Start packing”… Buffett Rule, as expected, goes down to defeat… Obama to make statement about market manipulation of oil prices at 11:10 am ET… Lugar mailer hits Mourdock… And GOP primary for Giffords’ seat in AZ takes place today.

Tim Shaffer / Reuters

Republican presidential candidate and former Governor of Massachusetts Mitt Romney speaks during the Independence Hall Tea Party Association's Tax Day Tea Summit at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania April 16, 2012.

*** Romney’s immigration challenge: Lost in the other statements Romney made at that Sunday fundraiser in Florida was his admission that he needs to move to the center to win over Latinos. "We have to get Hispanic voters to vote for our party," Romney said, observing that polls show Latinos breaking in huge percentages for President Obama "spells doom for us." Romney even said the GOP should offer something like a “Republican DREAM Act” to help woo Latinos. But there’s a challenge here for Romney, and it’s the same one Meg Whitman faced in 2010: How do you move back to center on immigration after running so hard to the right during the primary? Indeed, unlike other issues where he simply adopted conservative/Tea Party rhetoric (on health care, taxes, the deficit), Romney often used immigration as a weapon, particularly against Rick Perry. In addition, Romney said he would veto the DREAM Act, called Arizona’s immigration law “a model”, and proudly accepted the endorsement of the man considered the architect of that Arizona law, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach.

*** Is fixing his female problem easier than his Latino problem? Romney has the potential to fix his problem with female voters; after all, it’s not really his problem but rather the GOP’s. And he does have a story to tell here (wife Ann, the women he appointed in Massachusetts). But when it comes to immigration, this is an issue where he’s been consistent over the past five years as a way to prove his conservative bona fides (first against McCain, then against Perry and Gingrich). These are his words, not just the party's rhetoric being attached to him, and it’s going to be hard to take the back. Again, we’ll remind you that Obama’s Latino path (CO, NM, NV, and VA) is a not-so-hard way for him to get to 270 electoral votes -- without having to win Ohio or Florida (which also has LOTS of Latinos). 

NBC's Domenico Montanaro joins the Daily Rundown to discuss the latest polls, which clarifies the matchup between President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney heading into the general election.

*** What tapping Beth Myers means: That, of course, brings us to veepstakes. Is Romney able to patch up his Latino problem with, say, Marco Rubio as his running mate? Yesterday,  learned that the former Massachusetts governor tapped his longtime aide and ’08 campaign manager, Beth Myers, to lead his VP search. (Interestingly, Myers gave an interview yesterday to conservative blogger Jennifer Rubin. Does this mean Team Romney is going to be more public about this vetting process than past presumptive nominees have been?) Myers means that Romney will probably pick someone he’s VERY comfortable with. Beth Myers isn’t going to get you Sarah Palin; she’s going to get you someone you’ve campaigned with/interacted with quite a bit. And a Beth Myers is a Romney legacy protector -- she's probably not going to get Romney someone who will over-shadow him either (Chris Christie, we mean you). Having Myers lead this search will only reinforce the C.W. that Romney is going to zero in on folks like Portman, Ryan or even a Kelly Ayotte and not be looking for, shall we say, a game-changer.

*** Three very different polls: Boy, the polls were all over the place yesterday in this general election contest that’s barely a week old. First, the Gallup Daily Tracking poll had Romney with a two-point edge over Obama among registered voters, 47%-45%. Then CNN released its own survey showing Obama with a nine-point lead, 52%-43% fueled by his support by female voters. And then Reuters/Ipsos had Obama with a narrow four-point advantage, 47%-43%, after leading him by double digits last month. A little advice when presented with diverging polling data: Shake the Magic 8 ball again. Or better yet, wait for the next reliable national poll. Which brings us to... the latest NBC/WSJ poll will be coming out on Thursday. 

*** Romney to Obama: Start packing: In his interview with ABC yesterday, Mitt Romney was asked what he would say to Obama. Romney’s answer: “Well, start packing. That's what I'd like to-- like to say.” (You think the former one-term governor wishes he worded that a bit differently? seemed to border on OVER-confidence, no?) Also in the interview, Romney side-stepped questions about releasing his tax returns prior to 2010. “The president is going to try and do everything possible to divert from the attention being focused upon his record as president and the failure of his economic policies... We've released all the information required by law and then some.” He also ducked a question about his wealth (the two Cadillacs, the La Jolla house, the car elevator). “I think people want to have a president who knows how to lead, who knows how to create jobs, who can get our economy creating the jobs it should so we can see rising incomes again.” And Ann Romney was asked about Seamus the dog, who she said “loved” traveling on the top of the car. “He would see that crate and, you know, he would, like, go crazy because he was going with us on vacation. It was to me a kinder thing to bring him along than to leave him in the kennel for … two weeks.”

*** Buffett Rule goes down to defeat: Yesterday, as expected, the Buffett Rule was unable to clear the Senate. By a mostly party-line vote, 51 senators (all of them Democrats) voted to invoke cloture and have the measure proceed, while 45 senators (all Republicans and one Democrat, Arkansas’ Mark Pryor) voted against. Four didn’t vote -- Akaka (D-HI), Hatch (R-UT), Kirk (R-IL), and Lieberman (ID-CT). Lieberman released a statement saying he would have voted against had he been present. “I am not opposed to the Buffet Rule because I am opposed to raising income taxes on the wealthiest Americans. I am opposed to the Buffet Rule because it would double to 30 percent the capital gains tax on one group of investors and therefore reduce exactly the kind of capital investments we need to get our economy growing again and create jobs.”

*** Obama to tackle market manipulation of oil prices: The AP: “Under pressure to take action on rising gasoline prices, President Barack Obama wants Congress to strengthen federal supervision of oil markets, increase penalties for market manipulation and empower regulators to increase the amount of money energy traders are required to put behind their transactions.” The president will make a statement about this at 11:10 am ET from the White House.

*** Reminder: Santorum still hasn’t endorsed Romney: Rick Santorum still hasn’t endorsed Romney, the LA Times notes. He “pointedly declined Monday night to endorse presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney, instead pointing out that he has not backed a candidate in the race and urging his supporters to vote their conscience. ‘As far as how you vote, that’s up to you,’ Santorum told thousands of supporters during a conference call. ‘I haven’t supported any candidate at this point, so that’s really up to you.’” NBC’s Andrew Rafferty also reported on that conference call, writing that Santorum explained his decision to drop out had less to do with money and more with the inability of 1) Gingrich to exit the race and 2) of Texas to change its rules to be a winner-take-all contest. "I know there's been a lot of articles written that somehow we dropped out because we ran out of money. That just is a little, very, very small piece of the story," Santorum said. "The bottom line is we wanted to take this race as far as we could to the point where we felt that we could be successful."

*** On the GOP trail: Both Romney and Gingrich, in Pennsylvania, speak at a Lancaster County GOP… Gingrich also stumps in Harrisburg…. And Romney tapes an interview with CNBC’s Larry Kudlow.

*** ‘Take a closer look’: Longtime Sen. Richard Lugar, in the fight for his political life, is taking on challenger state Treasurer Richard Mourdock in a new mailer going out today. The mailer, strewn with $100 bills, focuses on the federal budget, goes after President Obama – someone he worked closely with in the Senate – for the federal debt, and urges Indiana Republicans to “take a closer look” at Mourdock’s budget proposal. That phrase -- “take a closer look” -- appears twice, once with a magnifying glass near an ashen-looking Mourdock. The mailer quotes the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, which said, “Mourdock’s budget fails honesty test.” Lugar operative Andy Fisher said, “The mailer contrasts Senator Lugar's thoughtful approach to cutting federal spending - like supporting both the Ryan budget and 'Cut, Cap and Balance' - versus Richard Mourdock's irresponsible plan to cut Social Security benefits for current beneficiaries and put our national security at risk.”

*** GOP primary for Giffords’ seat: Lastly, today is the GOP primary in the contest to fill Gabby Giffords’ seat in Congress. The AP: “Voters in southern Arizona's 8th Congressional District are heading to the polls to choose who will face former Gabrielle Giffords aide Ron Barber in a special election to replace the wounded ex-congresswoman. Four Republican candidates are battling in Tuesday's special primary election called after the Democrat resigned in January to focus on recovering from a gunshot wound. The four include 2010 Giffords opponent Jesse Kelly , a businessman and tea party favorite; state Sen. Frank Antenori ; retired U.S. Air Force pilot and political newcomer Martha McSally ' and businessman and broadcaster Dave Sitton.” The general takes place on June 12. 

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This is the reason MSNBC has dropped Buchanan. It's like Newt G. said the other night in the debate. You’re not supposed to bring up uncomfortableFacts.(verified on Buchanan’s website)

BUCHANAN TO OBAMA
Finally............ It is Said Publicly. I have never seen the white side explained better!
Pat Buchanan had the guts to say it. It is about time.

BUCHANAN TO OBAMA

By Patrick J. Buchanan

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America .. Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation.. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.... This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First,
America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.. Jeremiah Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second,
no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ' 60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream. Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated their time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude??

Barack talks about new 'ladders of opportunity' for blacks. Let him go to Altoona ? And Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for 'deserving' white kids...? Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America 's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago. This needs to be passed around because, this is a message everyone needs to hear!!!

OK........... will you pass it on ?

YES. I did but will you?


Because I'm for a better America


I am
Not racist,
Not violent,
Just not silent anymore.

  • 2 votes
Reply#214 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

I deleted this spam email.

  • 1 vote
#214.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

666 - you are definitely going to hell!

  • 2 votes
#214.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:07 PM EDT
Reply

Old Mitt Romney goes flip-flopping again. He is against minorities of all types, especially since his church indoctrinates Mormons to believe that people of color have the mark of Ham (the son who saw his father, Noah, naked in his tent). Romney will flip-flop towards Latinos to get their vote, then turn around and create policies that will further impoverish and expell many of our family members to Latin Counties. Latinos, please don't be fooled by any Republic polititian. They are on a hate campaign against minorities that is taking the U.S. back into the 1950's and on backwards. And, don't let their religious rhetoric fool you, it's all hypocricy to win votes.

  • 1 vote
Reply#215 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

The left exploits every group of people who they claim to represent.

  • 1 vote
#215.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

First Demorats stage a Repub "war on Women" now it based on race. Your leader, Barack Hussein Obama is a avowed Black Racist. In the Zimmerman/Martin case, he automatically takes the side of the black, over the Hispanic. He has pulled this stunt before when he said the "police acted stupidly" when dealing with the black professor. Also, read this link:
This is the reason MSNBC has dropped Buchanan. It's like Newt G. said the other night in the debate. You’re not supposed to bring up uncomfortableFacts.(verified on Buchanan’s website)

BUCHANAN TO OBAMA
Finally............ It is Said Publicly. I have never seen the white side explained better!
Pat Buchanan had the guts to say it. It is about time.

BUCHANAN TO OBAMA

By Patrick J. Buchanan

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America .. Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation.. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.... This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First,
America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.. Jeremiah Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second,
no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ' 60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream. Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated their time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude??

Barack talks about new 'ladders of opportunity' for blacks. Let him go to Altoona ? And Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for 'deserving' white kids...? Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America 's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago. This needs to be passed around because, this is a message everyone needs to hear!!!

OK........... will you pass it on ?

YES. I did but will you?


Because I'm for a better America


I am
Not racist,
Not violent,
Just not silent anymore.

  • 3 votes
#215.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

Redundant much?

    #215.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:18 PM EDT
    Reply

    The answer is, there is nothing to forgive. NEW Question: When will MSN stop working for the Obama Administration?

    • 1 vote
    Reply#216 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

    When will Fox Noose stop pandering to racist freaks?

    • 1 vote
    #216.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

    Fox doesn't pander to racist freeks.

    • 1 vote
    #216.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:02 PM EDT

    ANSWER: When Fux "News" channel stops being a direct arm of the GOP and a 24/7 propaganda machine for Repubicans. Expecially with Joseph Goebbles, er, I mean Roger Ailes, former hit man for Dick Nixon as it's boss.

    • 1 vote
    #216.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

    MSNBC panders to those suffering from white liberal guilt.

    • 1 vote
    #216.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:07 PM EDT
    Reply

    Obama's lawyers used an unusual stratagy in court last week. They admitted his birth certificate was a forgery and it shouldn't be allowed as evidence. They said it was an obvious forgery released only for political reasons and has no legal merit.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#217 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

    You birthers still exist?

    WOW!

    • 1 vote
    #217.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

    That was an odd stance to take. Looks like Sheriff Joe was right. That's is the funniest thing I have ever heard.

    • 1 vote
    #217.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

    Don't trust me. Check it out yourself. Did you miss the part where I said it was BARACK Obama's own lawyer?

    • 2 votes
    #217.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

    Do you see Bigfoot too?

    • 2 votes
    #217.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:04 PM EDT

    With that name you are obviously biased. Who is Alexandria Hill? Don't be afraid. Truth won't hurt to much. You will get over it.

    • 2 votes
    #217.5 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

    LEROY Looks like you need a checkup form the neck up there buddy. LOL

    Hey, why don't you check in with Donald Trump to see what his "special investigators" in Hawaii have found out???

    • 2 votes
    #217.6 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

    Don't be a coward Ozzie. Google Alexandria Hill.

      #217.7 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

      Wow, you liars don't know when to stop do you? She argued, correctly, that the birth certificate is irrelevant as New Jersey law does not require a candidate to prove their eligibility in order to appear on the ballot. Nobody claimed the document was forged. Furthermore, the judge ruled in Obama's favor. Case closed.

        #217.8 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:26 PM EDT
        Reply

        Things will tighten up now that the GOP has decided on a candidate. They will start running negative adds against Obama instead of each other.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#218 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

        AMERICA: No doubt, all that bigtime corporate money that Karl Rove has will be used to spread lies and disinformation to the uneducated and gullible amonst us.

        No matter, we don't have to lie about anything in Willard's history, the facts will speak plenty loud for themselves. There is not an issue and I mean a SINGLE ISSUE that this weasel has not done a complete reversal on.

        Pro Choice

        Pro Gun Control

        Pro Woman's rights & equality

        Anti Reagan

        Called himself a "Progressive"

        Advocated Romney Care nationwide as late as 2009

          #218.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:12 PM EDT
          Reply

          Honest latinos dislike illegal immigration just like the rest of us law abiding citizens.
          Liberals want illegal immigrants so they can bus them to polling places.

          Obama has a horrible record to run on.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#219 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

          Actually, he got a pretty good record to run on. Hehehehehehe!!!!!!

          • 1 vote
          #219.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:04 PM EDT

          Solyndra, Libya, Egypt, Fast & furious, beer summit, my boy would look like Trayvon, threatening supreme court, Cramming health care down our throat, Inflation, bailout, secret service hookers, tax cheats in administration, Anthony Weiner, Syria, hot mic nuclear arms deal, get in the backseat I'm driving now, transparency, extend bush tax cuts, Not a single budget, raise the dept ceiling. We will be out of Afghanistan at the end of 2014. 5$ gas. 9% unemployment. continued housing meltdown.

          • 2 votes
          #219.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:16 PM EDT

          I hope he runs on his record.

            #219.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

            top dog, if he thought he had a record, he'd be touting it instead of making up things.

            Ever wonder why liberals refuse to say "War on Terror" despite being at war with the terrorists, but he'll declare a "War on Women"?

            LOL

            The ride's almost over-November 2010 was the appetizer.

              #219.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:30 PM EDT

              Rational,

              Not a very rational post. Liberals want illegals so they can bus them to the polls? Seriously? And how exactly do these non-citizens vote? They're not on the rolls that every poll worker has, they don't have voter identification cards. This idea that there are illegals voting is just plain stupid.

              Also, the ride is only almost half over. Romney doesn't have a path to 270. This election is alrady over, Obama wins. If we go by just the conservative pollster, Rasmussen Reports, if the election were held today, Obama would win 347 to 191.

              • 1 vote
              #219.5 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:38 PM EDT

              Poor Republicans ... their posts here seem to smack of anger and desperation. Romney doesn't have a path to victory, and they know it. I doubt things will change much over the next 7 months. Flip has already made his bed, and he must lie in it, literally. The middle class is not blaming Obama for the abysmal performance of Congress, a Congress led by the Republicans for the past 3+ years. I believe their whole strategy for the past 4 years is going to blow up in their faces in the general election. You know, the strategy to make Obama a one-term President and obstruct everything he wants to do, even on the issues that have a large majority of public support. The Republican Party should, and deserves to be, D.O.A. at the general election.

                #219.6 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:52 PM EDT
                Reply

                Of course rumney is doomed, saying it a thousand a day will not change that for him. Rumney told a lot of lies about a lot of people during his run, hell, he even lied on himself when he said "he created a lot of jobs". Everybody know rumney lost more jobs than g-dub almost. His lies cannot be unlied.....hehehehe!!, thats funny. But any way he lie so much it's pathetic, not to mention all the things he said about women. So yes, I would say he was doomed from the start.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#220 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

                I need to send you an invitation to my "Gitmo's still open!" party.

                  #220.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:31 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  The rules to enter this country legally are in place, Use them or suffer the consequences, which should be deportation and fines for businesses that hire them. If Romney changes his stance just to get the Latino vote then this shows me that he is just to wishy washy to be president and that he will tell you anything you want to hear just to get elected into office. I find that repugnant, and offensive to my senses and I shall never vote for him.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#221 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

                  The majority of Americans took the power of congress away from Obama. What does that tell you?

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#222 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

                  Tea congress approval is at 6% and falling.

                  • 1 vote
                  #222.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:04 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  Rich GOP donators hire illegals by the millions.

                  You teabaggers must be lazy and worthless.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#223 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:02 PM EDT

                  .

                    Reply#224 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

                    OK, the Pilgrims were never approved by the INS. If we took all the lazy loafers, & ignorant morons & shipped them back to where they came from, Western Europe would be flooded with people who haven't lived there for dozens of generations.

                    We can't jail them either. Who would be left to guard the cells?

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#225 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

                    Give that man another cee-gar.
                    I'd love to see some network have the stones to air this, but I've probably got a better chance of hitting the lottery.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LONUecnsMb8&feature=player_embedded

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#226 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:04 PM EDT

                    Super link enjoyed and enjoyed!

                    • 1 vote
                    #226.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:11 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    This is the reason MSNBC has dropped Buchanan. It's like Newt G. said the other night in the debate. You’re not supposed to bring up uncomfortableFacts.(verified on Buchanan’s website)

                    BUCHANAN TO OBAMA
                    Finally............ It is Said Publicly. I have never seen the white side explained better!
                    Pat Buchanan had the guts to say it. It is about time.

                    BUCHANAN TO OBAMA

                    By Patrick J. Buchanan

                    Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America .. Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation.. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.... This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

                    First,
                    America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.. Jeremiah Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

                    Second,
                    no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ' 60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream. Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated their time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
                    We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude??

                    Barack talks about new 'ladders of opportunity' for blacks. Let him go to Altoona ? And Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for 'deserving' white kids...? Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America 's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

                    Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

                    As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

                    Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

                    We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

                    Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago. This needs to be passed around because, this is a message everyone needs to hear!!!

                    OK........... will you pass it on ?

                    YES. I did but will you?


                    Because I'm for a better America


                    I am
                    Not racist,
                    Not violent,
                    Just not silent anymore.

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#227 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

                    I didn't read all that but was under the impression that only 40,000 slaves were actually brought to America. while Haiti had 160,000 brought over. And many more throughout all of Latin America.

                      #227.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

                      nazarite,

                      you can post the same thing over and over all day and it won't make a difference. All it does is make you look like a child who isn't satisfied with just making their point once. You're a racist, we get it, now move on. The simple fact is that this election is already over, Romney doesn't have a path to 270 electoral votes. If we go just by Rasmussen Reports (conservative pollster) numbers, Obama wins 347 to 191.

                      • 1 vote
                      #227.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:44 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      Everybody knows the GOP is KKK.

                      Strom Thurmond is their hero.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#228 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:06 PM EDT

                      Everyone knows that you your grandfather was in the KKK.

                      • 1 vote
                      #228.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:09 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      Does anyone know why Obama's aides won't let him go to Burger King???

                      They are afraid he will bow down to their mascot!!!!!!!

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#229 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:06 PM EDT

                      Please report all spam.

                      These right wingnuts need to stick to Fox Noose.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#230 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

                      BishopMittis666:

                      I want to commend you on the quality of your arguments. i don't think I have ever seen such quality since the last time I watched Rachell, Chris and Ed on MSNBC. You should apply for a job. Your name calling is especially creative. Where did you come up with those pithy comments?

                      • 2 votes
                      #230.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:15 PM EDT

                      You are evil and cannot handle the truth! Therefore, you cannot stand dissenting viewpoints. You liberal faith must be weak indeed. CENSOR

                      • 2 votes
                      #230.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:16 PM EDT
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                      Any of you who believe the Buffett rule's ultimate goal is to tax Buffett, Gates, Soros and other supper rich are ignoring history. The Progressives used the same straw-man argument in 1969 claiming 150 super wealthy paid no taxes.

                      Republicans caved to public outrage and both parties approved the Alternative Minimum Tax. They did not index the rule so each year inflation caused more people to be subjected to the tax. It now hits millions of two-income, middle-class families. Since this so-called error was never fixed permanently. the public should assume it was done on purpose. Are politicians really that stupid that they did not know inflation would cause this tax to impact increasing numbers of citizens?

                      Anyone who disagrees should explain why they are proposing a new tax and not fixing the Alternative Minimum Tax so it only targets the rich who make their annual incomes from capital gains.

                      The CBO 2012 budget outlook states the following:

                      Revenues

                      Much of the projected decline in the deficit occurs because, under current law, revenues are projected to shoot up by almost $800 billion, or more than 30 percent, between 2012 and 2014—from 16.3 percent of GDP in 2012 to 20.0 percent in 2014. That increase is mostly the result of of the recent or scheduled expirations of tax provisions, such as those initially enacted in 2001, 2003, and 2009 that lower income tax rates and those that limit the number of people subject to the alternative minimum tax (AMT).

                      Under current law, CBO projects that revenues will continue to rise relative to GDP after 2014 largely because increases in taxpayers’ inflation-adjusted income will push more income into higher tax brackets and subject more of it to the AMT.

                      Progressives who support the Buffett rule are either participating in President Obama's and Buffett's fraud or simply too partisan to recognize the facts. The true goal is to increase taxes on the middle class. There are not enough rich people who make their incomes off capital gains to tax to make a difference on the budget. These new taxes will serve to further increase the wealth gap.

                      Envy makes us all fools.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#231 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

                      It's actually the same argument that Republican hero, Ronald Reagan, made as well. Hell, the Buffett bill is based on the words of RR. RR even spoke about another wealthy man who wrote him a letter, explaining all the loopholes that allowed him to pay less taxes than his secretary, and spoke of how disturbing he thought it was. He spoke of closing "the unproductive tax loopholes that have allowed some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share."

                      If you talk to most Republicans, Ronald Reagan did no wrong, but they sure as hell hate it when you quote his words or policies.

                        #231.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:58 PM EDT
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                        People vote for freedom. Vote for democracy. Vote for America. Most important Vote Republican.

                        Conservatives are not against the poor and are not for the rich as the Democrat fear mantra keeps repeating. Small business is where the jobs are created, and number many more than Corporate America creates. Most corporations have left this country, and the left would like you to believe all corporations are Republican. I ask you who authorized and demanded the stimulus George Bush signed after the November elections in 2008? Yes, it was Barack Obama with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid's blessing. Remember Obama visiting the Oval Office prior to Inauguration Day? Who gave big money stimulus to GM, Chrysler, and all the dough that went AIG, and other financial institutions? Why it was the Democrats. Not a good track record for all you corporate hating liberals is it? Of course, making sense of anything is not a liberal strength.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#232 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

                        I hope Romney realizes that a good majority of legal Americans WANT our immigration laws vigorously enforced, no exceptions. Pandering to Hispanics, who mostly want all laws against illegals unenforced, will not help Romney's cause. Capitulating and endorsing a DREAM Act will not go over well. We want a President who will stand up for our laws and not let millions of illegal criminals break as many laws as they wish, like ID fraud or theft, non-payment of income taxes or spitting out anchor babies and then collecting welfare. I think pols put way too much stock in the Hispanics. He should support all legal Americans, not one race !

                          Reply#233 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

                          Bush allowed 10,000,000 illegals to cross AFTER 9/11.

                          Mitt will easily break that record.

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#234 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:09 PM EDT

                          ...where is the American Dream headed?....Russia...

                          ...where is America headed?...3rd world...

                          ...by 2030 America will be but a footnote on the global stage...

                            Reply#235 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:09 PM EDT

                            If the left has its way.

                            • 1 vote
                            #235.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:10 PM EDT
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                            For all you racist non inclusive disenfranchising Liberals ROFLMAO!!!!!!

                            Let me tell you one more time What part of illegal don't you understand????????????????. Don't expect me to abide by the laws of this country and pay my taxes etc. While illegal law breakers violate the very laws i'm expected to obey.What part of your screwed up brain doesn't get this.If you are here illegally you are a criminal not a citizen with rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just say no to the wet dream act period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#236 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:10 PM EDT

                            David Duke = KKK Grand Wizard = GOP prez hopeful

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#237 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

                            You need a history lesson on which party was full of KKK. Does the KKK even exist anymore?

                            • 1 vote
                            #237.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:13 PM EDT
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                            Why can't liberals find facts?

                            They aren't looking for them

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#238 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

                            Why are colleges and universities full of and dominated by liberals???

                            Because conservatives are stupid.

                            • 2 votes
                            #238.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

                            When the high level government jobs are taken, the liberals flock to the university. Those who can, do. Those who can't, "teach" and sit on their asses thinking heavy thoughts while their assistants do all the work.

                            • 2 votes
                            #238.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:20 PM EDT

                            123ang,

                            I was mocking Mick the clown, you didn't have to validate my post with your stupidity...

                              #238.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

                              I agree with Mick.

                              • 1 vote
                              #238.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:27 PM EDT
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