First Thoughts: Romney's own hot-mic moment

Romney’s own hot-mic moment… At Florida fundraiser (overheard by NBC’s Garrett Haake), Romney singles out HUD for possible elimination and says he wants to cut the Education Dept… He and his wife also were giddy about the Hilary Rosen flap… And Romney revealed he wants a “Republican DREAM Act” to help woo Latinos… Senate to vote on Buffett Rule at 5:30 pm ET… Team Obama rakes in $53 million in March… Anonymous donor writes Crossroads $10 million check… NYT on White House’s access to big donors… Romney, meanwhile, promises his own donors access at “Presidential Inaugural Retreat!!!

*** Romney’s own hot-mic moment: In an interview with the Weekly Standard earlier this year, Mitt Romney said he learned this advice from his unsuccessful 1994 Senate race against Ted Kennedy: don’t get too specific. “One of the things I found in a short campaign against Ted Kennedy was that when I said, for instance, that I wanted to eliminate the Department of Education, that was used to suggest I don’t care about education,” he said. “So I think it’s important for me to point out that I anticipate that there will be departments and agencies that will either be eliminated or combined with other agencies.” But at a Florida fundraiser Romney attended last night -- which NBC’s Garrett Haake overheard because he was sitting on a seawall outside the home -- the former Massachusetts governor got MUCH MORE specific. Indeed, it was in a way Romney’s own hot-mic moment, where he was more open about his plans than he’s been to voters and reporters to date.

In a speech to donors at a closed door fundraiser in Palm Beach, Florida, Mitt Romney laid out plans to consolidate federal agencies, reform the tax code and win back Latino voters. The Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd reports.

*** Eliminate HUD, cut Education Department: He singled out HUD for possible elimination. "I'm going to take a lot of departments in Washington, and agencies, and combine them. Some eliminate, but I'm probably not going to lay out just exactly which ones are going to go," Romney said. "Things like Housing and Urban Development, which my dad was head of, that might not be around later.” He said he’d cut the Education Department, though not eliminate it entirely, referring again to that 1994 Senate defeat. "The Department of Education: I will either consolidate with another agency, or perhaps make it a heck of a lot smaller. I'm not going to get rid of it entirely." Romney also identified specific loopholes and deductions that he’s eliminate to finance his across-the-board tax cut. "I'm going to probably eliminate for high income people the second home mortgage deduction," Romney said, per Haake, adding that he would also likely eliminate deductions for state income and property taxes as well.

*** Giddy over the Rosen flap: At the fundraiser, Haake adds, both Romney and his wife Ann remained absolutely giddy about last week’s Hilary Rosen flap. "It was my early birthday present for someone to be critical of me as a mother, and that was really a defining moment, and I loved it," Ann Romney said. The candidate went further, calling the episode a "gift" that allowed his campaign to show contrast with Democrats in the general election's first week. But while Romney said last week that “all moms are working moms,” that doesn’t apply to mothers who are welfare recipients, the Boston Globe says. Romney said at a Jan. 4 campaign stop in Manchester, N.H.: “Even if you have a child two years of age, you need to go to work,” Romney describing his position as Massachusetts governor. “And people said, ‘Well that’s heartless,’ and I said ‘No, no, I’m willing to spend more giving daycare to allow those parents to go back to work. It’ll cost the state more providing that daycare, but I want the individuals to have the dignity of work.’”

*** Romney wants a “Republican DREAM Act”: Here’s a final bit of news from last night’s Romney’s fundraiser: He said the GOP must offer its own policies to woo Hispanics, including a "Republican DREAM Act," to give Hispanic voters a real choice between the two political parties. So Romney here is admitting the obvious: He and his party have A LOT of work to do with Latinos. Why? Consider this: Obama can get to 270 electoral votes (275 to be specific) by winning the following battleground states: Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Virginia. Under the scenario of this Hispanic path (CO, NM, NV, and VA), Obama doesn’t need to win Florida, Ohio, Iowa, or New Hampshire. That’s right -- this is a viable path to 270 that does not include EITHER Florida or Ohio. It’s pretty stunning.

*** Senate to vote on Buffett Rule: Congress is back from its Easter/Passover break, and the Senate today votes -- at 5:30 pm ET, per NBC’s Libby Leist -- on the so-called Buffett Rule, under which millionaires would have to pay an effective tax rate of at least 30%. We’ve talked plenty about the presidential politics of the Buffett Rule, but here’s something additional to consider: How do the individual senators vote? We’re looking at five running for re-election/election in November: Jon Tester (D-MT), Claire McCaskill (D-MO), Scott Brown (R-MA), Dean Heller (R-NV), and Bill Nelson (D-FL).

*** Team Obama rakes in $53 million-plus in March: In a video, the Obama campaign announced this morning that it raised more than $53 million in March -- the campaign, DNC, and other committees. It added that 567,000 contributed to the campaign last month, and the average donation was $51. We won't know until April 20 -- the filing deadline for March -- how much of that $53 million was from the campaign, DNC, etc. But for February, the campaign announced raising $45 million, and the split was $21.3 million for the campaign and $24 million for the other committees. To put these new Obama numbers into perspective, for March of 2004, the Bush-Cheney campaign raised $26.2 million, and the RNC brought in $18.8 million. That's a total of $45 million. To date now, the Obama campaign and DNC have raked in nearly $370 million this campaign cycle.

*** An anonymous $10 million check: But that campaign money is only part of the story. On Friday, the Washington Post reported that an anonymous donor gave the Karl Rove-backed Crossroad GPS a $10 million contribution late last year. Unlike American Crossroads, which is a Super PAC and which has to disclose its donors, Crossroads GPS is a 501c4 and doesn’t have to reveal the identity of its donors. So with one check, an anonymous donor gave this conservative outside group about half ($10 million) of what the Obama campaign raised in February ($21.3 million).

*** White House access for big donors: There are a couple of other fundraising stories. First, the Sunday New York Times reported on the White House access that big Obama donors have received. “[T]he review showed that those who donated the most to Mr. Obama and the Democratic Party since he started running for president were far more likely to visit the White House than others. Among donors who gave $30,000 or less, about 20 percent visited the White House, according to a New York Times analysis that matched names in the visitor logs with donor records. But among those who donated $100,000 or more, the figure rises to about 75 percent.” It’s worth noting that for all the reforms Team Obama has instituted – not taking lobbyist money, making the White House visitor logs open to the public, efforts to rein in the lobbyist revolving door – it’s received very little political gain. In fact, you could argue that it’s created more pain… (The fact is most Democratic lobbyists and big donors don’t believe they get any special treatment from this White House, and they complain loudly about this. As the re-election has geared up, Team Obama has tried to make these folks feel better, only to have their efforts get correctly flagged for coming across hypocritical.)

*** Romney camp promises donor access at “Presidential Inaugural Retreat”: The Romney campaign pounced on yesterday’s New York Times story. “Less than four years after promising to drive special interests out of Washington, President Obama has done the exact opposite—granting top donors special favors and access to his White House,” said spokeswoman Andrea Saul. “This is just another example of President Obama’s failed record, which he’ll be desperate to hide from voters this November.” But get this: Buzzfeed reports that Romney “is already offering top donors access to a special ‘Presidential Inaugural retreat,’ planned on the assumption that he will be elected president this November. The offer, in a fundraising email circulated by a top Georgia supporter to fellow Republicans and obtained by BuzzFeed, is one of several goodies offered to those who contribute more than $50,000 to the joint fundraising committee known as ‘Romney Victory.’ Those donors will be named ‘Founding Members’ of Romney Victory and invited to a California retreat with Romney and offered ‘yet to be determined access at the Republican National Convention in Tampa in August.’”

*** On the GOP trail: Romney attends a Red Sox game at 11:00 am ET and also gives an interview to ABC. Later in the day, Romney heads to Philadelphia, where he speaks to a Tea Party group… Also, Gingrich attends a fundraiser in Texas.

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Gas prices were extremely high during part of G.W.'s regime, but the righties are so forgetful or do they just enjoy spinning stories. Time to turn the Faux off.

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Reply#488 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

They were $4.oo per gallon in August of 2008 and fell to under $2.00 per gallon by January of 2009.

Why?

President Bush lifted an executive order banning offshore oil drilling and urged Congress to follow suit.

Citing the high prices Americans are paying at the pump, Bush said from the White House Rose Garden that allowing offshore oil drilling is “one of the most important steps we can take” to reduce that burden.

“This means that the only thing standing between the American people and these vast oil reserves is action from the U.S. Congress,” Bush said in 2008.

  • 1 vote
#488.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

Yes and as I recall, everyone was blaming Bush because we had "an oilman" in the White House. If Obama has no control over gas prices, how was it that George Bush had control over gas prices because he was an oilman. My personal belief is that no president can control gas prices, but please don't forget the accusations from the left that were made about having high gas prices because of George Bush.

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#488.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:58 PM EDT

KAUMANS: No, actually I never blamed Bush for oil prices. I blame him for pretty much everything else, but not this. No president has much to do with the cost of oil as you mentioned.

Dragging us into a totally unnecessary war that took the lives of 4500 of our troops, 25,000 grieviously wounded, and god knows how many suffering from horrific emotional issues as well as drug addiction, alcohol abuse and suicide. That I sure as hell do blame him for.

As well as bankruptiong the country with his irresponsible tax cuts coupled with two wars. Who the hell ever heard of cutting taxes during a war, let alone two wars.

  • 2 votes
#488.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

To..Ssmith"""

So gw bush rescinding his fathers executive order staying the ban on off shore drilling in 2008... has done exactly what to bring down the price of gas....didn't he open up US oil reserves at an earlier time in his administration..or am I mistaken ..

    #488.4 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:39 PM EDT

    President Bush lifted an executive order banning offshore oil drilling and urged Congress to follow suit

    Oh -- so overnight back in 2008 gasoline began flowing from the oceans and down went the price of gasoline. First of all ssmitlg -- get your facts straight. Congress doesn't have to OK an executive order from the President. Today -- domestic oil production is at an ALL TIME HIGH and demand is down. At least 40% of the price of gasoline today is driven by SPECULATION. And the speculators are hedge fund managers and companies such as Citi Bank and Bank of America -- people having NOTHING to do with oil production. Remember --- that's NOT some left wing talking point -- that's straight from the CEO of Exxon/Mobile.

    And ssmithlg -- much to your dismay -- gasoline has begun a decline -- just like it did last year at this time. Your dream of $6.00 gas isn't going to happen.

    • 2 votes
    #488.5 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:41 PM EDT

    To..Kaumans"""

    Well gw was an oilman and very close along with cheney to the oil industry ....just seems fitting he might of had some clout ....he was a failed business oil man ..( how can you fail with oi ? )...but boy didn't he know how to cook the books ...

      #488.6 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:43 PM EDT

      What Bush cultist like ssithlg don't want to mention is during his 8 years in office, we say the highest increase in energy prices than during any other 8 year span in history.

      • 2 votes
      #488.7 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:44 PM EDT
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      like the teapugs ever voted for President Obama in 2008 so why should their not voting for him in 2012 make any difference?

      The RepubliCon brand has been teasmirched- isnt that why your polling like 9% favable because the general public view the Teapugs for what they are-OBSTRUCTIONISTS

      • 3 votes
      Reply#489 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

      I need,

      Silly me....I thought Obama got EVERYTHING he wanted his first two years. So, how did the republicans obstruct, again?

      Silly me...The budgets that Obama brought up did not get ONE DEMOCRAT vote. 97-0 and 420-0.

      Silly me...................

        #489.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:39 PM EDT

        To.bernie ''''

        why don't you explain to us why......and when on earth did repubs not obstruct everything put forward by Obama...

          #489.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

          to Bernie: do republiCONS only know how to vote as a block- can you guys go outside by yourself too?

          • 1 vote
          #489.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:34 PM EDT
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          Mitt Romney doesn't answer to the Tea Party. He wouldn't be caught Dead with them. He won this all on his own with his own Mega Bucks!

          He didn't need any of the Koch Brothers Dirty Money.

            Reply#490 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

            Flip Flop Mitt wants to do a Bain number on the government...you know, break apart the organization and sell off its parts to the highest bidder...lovely.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#491 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

            Obama has given away billions of our tax dollars to South American countries through the IMEm bank to re-build refineries (we haven't built a new one in decades here) and to encourage them to drill for oil while he won't let us drill our own and they thumb thier noses at him. He lets millions of illegals come over our border then helps them stay here and still they thumb thier noses at him.... He seems better at getting told to take a hike while throwing more and more money away.

            This whole administration is an embarrassment. The entire world is laughing and thumbing their noses at our once proud and mighty nation because of the last three + years....

            Even the secret service, the once proudest of the proud has been infiltrated by the malaise and party time attitude.

            Hellloooo Mr Prez...where is "the buck stops here" that you promised us?

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            Reply#492 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

            To Justified"""

            No...think maybe you might wanna fact check your accusations

              #492.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:54 PM EDT

              Facts confuse liberals.

                #492.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:40 PM EDT

                Since you haven't used one yet, I think the only person confused by facts at this point is you, Unjustified.

                  #492.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:48 PM EDT
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                  What ? so called "Open Mike Moment" ? The difference is that what Romney said will NOT embarrass him whereas Obama and Biden embarrass themseleves almost every time they speak without a TelePrompTer!

                  Kick Obama to the curb in 2012!

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#493 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

                  Have you been asleep? Ever heard of the oil patches in Williston, North Dakota?

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#494 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:35 PM EDT

                  No i haven't been asleep but perhaps you have.... recent finds in Alaska alone have the potential to be the 8th largest field on the PLANET....Ahead of libya & Nigeria. But no no no, can't touch that.
                  Were you "asleep" when dear leader shot down Keystone?
                  Were you asleep when he banned deep water drilling in the Gulf and sent thousands to the unemployment lines?

                  • 4 votes
                  #494.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

                  Obviously, there is plenty of oil in this country, but the environmentalist lobby won't let us drill for it or build the needed refineries to process it.

                  • 2 votes
                  #494.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:01 PM EDT
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                  Well I guess this is how it will be until November, the Dems being unable to fight back even on easy ones, like the Rosen comment, that I back. I even wonder if Mz Romney did all that work by herself or did they have employees? Obama hasn't even bothered to explain his Healthcare to America, now they're sitting there scared. Romney's gonna hit him with lies and ridicule and the Dems are just gonna whimper back 'Aaaw that ain't true'. Remember how they stood there like fools when the swiftboat attacks came. I won't be surprised this time when working America votes against it's own good.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#495 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:36 PM EDT

                  TRK,
                  Was this how Dubya got his second term?

                    #495.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:42 PM EDT

                    There are countless sites if you're interested in looking at the new Affordable Care Act and they provide timelines and what will occur at each one of them. Don't blame the President for your lack of knowledge. He won't come to your house, sit down with you, and explain it. He knows a repuke wouldn't understand it.

                    • 1 vote
                    #495.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:45 PM EDT

                    Obamacare takes away freedoms and costs families even more. Obama and the left do not care. They just want the government to have more control over the people. First Democrats ruined health insurance by requiring that you have all the bells and whistles on your policy. When people couldn't afford that, they decided to solve it with even more government intervention.

                    • 4 votes
                    #495.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

                    The Supreme Court will shoot down BarryCare - it's unconstitutional!

                    • 2 votes
                    #495.4 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

                    In what respect? Is it not mandatory that you allow your employer to take soc. security and federal income tax and medicare out of your paycheck? Is that not an infringements on your cloudy rights? Or don't you work and have a paycheck?

                    Why do you not want health insurance? Is it easier to just use the ER and let the county pick up part of the tab and those of us who are insured pick up the other part of it? Don't want to be a contributing member of society? Isnt' that what Democrats are generally accused of and look who truly has that attitude.

                    • 1 vote
                    #495.5 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

                    I do have health insurance. It would be cheaper if the state government had not required a ton of things that I don't want to insure for (thanks to Democrats). I want coverage for big stuff. I do not need coverage for marital counseling or drug/alcohol addiction. I need coverage for major accidents and illnesses that would bankrupt me. On top of that, the federal government has added to it. I am so glad that I now have coverage for "gender dysmorphic dysorder"...NOT! Are you kidding? This is no longer a health insurance policy. Its a dream list for leftists to make health insurance unaffordable to everyone and eventually force us into universal healthcare. Its as if the government changed auto insurance forcing everyone to buy coverage for oil changes, car washes and gas....that is not insurance!

                      #495.6 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:20 PM EDT
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                      205 rigs have drilled 3,000 wells.Ten to twenty more years of drilling will provide 45,000 wells. Currently 510,000 barrels of oil a day extracted.

                      We libbies do know what we're talking about. We just realize you repukes won't understand what we're saying and we're always right. Is that specific enough for one part of your argument?

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#496 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:40 PM EDT

                      LOL go google some more libby. It takes 4 years for for production figures to go on record. So the figures that are represented, that show an increase in production, are actually from the previous administration.

                      Typical of you to attempt to spin numbers though ;)

                      • 3 votes
                      #496.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

                      Wrong. These numbers are current and I didn't google them. I have the statistics right on my desk.

                      Good try though. People like you scream when no facts are presented and when you're faced with them, you have no argument so you just cry, "NOT TRUE".

                      • 2 votes
                      #496.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:14 PM EDT
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                      If you are such a cutting mood Mittens how about cut the huge subsidies and tax breaks to your rich oil company friends. Oh that's right they aren't making enough billions on the backs of the public. You are a real piece of work, when asked about your plans you are all vague like you're keeping a secret from us little peons and we just need to trust the big rich politician that will continue to reward his rich friends. To all you Romney lovers, go ahead vote him in and when you have no social security and medicare you will then know where he stands on the issues he seems to not know how to talk about now except with his rich supporters.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#497 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

                      Yes, very smart! Let's cut the tax break breaks for the oil companies and let's see how much higher the price of oil will be by the end of the year!! And how is Romney vague about his plans, there is nothing secretive on what he is proposing when Romney will be elected, he is very clear on his plans, you should listen to them sometime when you get a chance if you have the guts - they make a lot of sense in turning this economy around. And speaking of being vague and secretive, what do you think Obama is really planning about Russia that he has to wait until after the election? What kind of surprises are we in store for if God forbid, this man ever gets elected? Why are you not asking this question? This is scary stuff!!!! BTW, if we continue this destructive path of spending and record deficits, there will be no social security and medicare to discuss!!

                      • 3 votes
                      #497.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

                      JOBS! That's all I want an answer to! WHERE ARE THE JOBS! 6.5 trilllion dollars.3.5 years in office with complete control over Congress for two years and still have an effective unemployment rate of 14+%!BURY BERRIE-2012!

                      • 1 vote
                      #497.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

                      JOBS? Where Are They! 3.5 years.65. trillion dollars,two years complete control of congress and an effective unemployment rate of 14%!

                        #497.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

                        DEE PATRIOT: I just love when the Right uses this argument to subsidize Big Oil.

                        So what you're saying is, unless we pay ransom money to Big Oil, they'll screw us even more than normal, is that it? It's called "Protection Money". That's when the Mafia does, you have to pay them for "protection" or they'll trash your place of business and beat you up. Then they say "you see, you need protection". That's your sorry a$$ed justification.

                        In which case, you are undoubtably a Socialist if not an outright Communist. You want "Big Government" to help pay for your lousy gas. Pay for your own gas you deadbeat, handouter, freeloader, "Welfare Queen". I'm sick of paying for deadbeats like you who don't want to work for a living.

                        • 1 vote
                        #497.4 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

                        Ozzie,
                        Corporate Welfare dwarfs spending on the poor.

                          #497.5 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:21 PM EDT
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                          If the Tea Party thinks that they are going to get any of the Table Scraps from Mitt and his Mormon Minions, they're sadly mistaken. Mitts win was all done with Mormon Money and they don't share Table Scraps with anyone...

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#498 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

                          Ted,Where are the JOBS! Lets talk about JOBS or are you limited about what you can discuss from your big union and dimocrap party handlers.Or is it you just don't have the mental capicity to think about more than one tpopic at a time!

                          • 1 vote
                          #498.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

                          There is a 3 Million Job bill finishing in the Senate and heading to the House.
                          It is for road and bridge infrastructure spending.
                          The Repugnicans will refuse to even discuss it, and it will die a slow death.
                          That is where your f*cking jobs are you moron.

                            #498.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

                            DionIdiot, the jobs you speak of are TEMPORY JOBS that CONSUME TAX DOLLARS.

                            REAL JOBS come from that Private Sector that are LONG TERM and GENERATE TAX REVENUE.

                              #498.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

                              smith,

                              You just said to every construction worker, bridge builder and road worker that they don't have 'REAL JOBS'...too funny...lol.

                                #498.4 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:10 PM EDT

                                SMITH: More nonsense from the Right. "Government never created a single job", isn't that the mantra of the Right? If so, then let's stop paying everyone of those worthless GOP Congressman & Senators who are living off the taxpayers dime. Let them buy their own health insurance instead of relying on the Nanny State, Socialized, Commie medical care that they use.

                                According to you twits, postal workers, inspectors from the FAA, FDA, EPA, DOT, etc, etc, don't work for the living. How'd you like to fly on a jet that's never been inspectecd by the FAA? Be my guest, I'll happily stick with the plane that Big Goverment has overseen.

                                  #498.5 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:15 PM EDT

                                  TO ..ssmith"""

                                  It's kind of funny people saying the job creators are not hiring because of uncertainty ...of what ..the last decade of bush tax cuts ..where are those jobs..now give them more tax cuts and voila there gonna create jobs now ...we're still under the bush tax cuts...again where are the jobs from the job creators .

                                  Anybody remember what bushed promised that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts were going to do for the economy ..job creation.. deficits the debt...and for middle class Americans....anyone remember....?

                                  How'd all that work out anyway

                                    #498.6 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:12 PM EDT
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                                    Romney Praises Ryan Budget

                                    Ryan budget:
                                    Throw Grandma and Grandpa to the wolves.
                                    Cut funding for all assistance to the poor. ( they want those babies to be born but by GOD they don't want to take care of them afterwards. )
                                    Cut funding for education, college grants and loans, Head Start and retraining programs.
                                    Cut funding for scientific research across the boards. ( no surprise there, the GOP hate science. )
                                    Add 250 MIL to the Defense Budget ( even though the Def.Dept has said the levels set by Obama are totally acceptable....funny how the GOP only listen to the Generals when they want to... )
                                    Cut funding for Roads and Bridges
                                    Cut funding for Hospitals, Schools, Universities, Parks and Libraries
                                    All the while giving the wealthiest the biggest giveaway in history. ( corporate welfare dollars dwarf those spent on the poor )
                                    If this is Compassionate Conservatism...I'll pass.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    Reply#499 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

                                    Your scare tactics are abussive! Tell, the one thing you didn't discuss were JOBS! WHER are the JOBS? 6.5 trilllion Dollars,3.5 years with 2 years of complete dimocrap domination of the Concress and left with a 14+% effective unemployment rate!BURY BERRIE-2012 Vote for your country for a change!

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #499.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

                                    maso(chistic),
                                    There is a 3 Million Job bill finishing in the Senate and heading to the House.
                                    It is for road and bridge infrastructure spending.
                                    The Repugnicans will refuse to even discuss it, and it will die a slow death.
                                    That is where your f*cking jobs are you moron.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #499.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

                                    3 million jobs? You must be kidding! The already spent hundreds of millions on infrastruture repair and replacement in the past 3 years and they haven't spent all of it yet! That didn't create 3 million jobs since most jobs were already filled by the bloated salaries of existing state workers!You are dillutional!

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #499.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

                                    Uhhhh...no delusions...these are facts...I know the teabrain may have a hard time with them, but they are still facts....like gravity...and evolution....you know...hard core facts.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #499.4 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:08 PM EDT

                                    Facts Republicans Hate:

                                    • Job losses per month in January 2008: 700,000
                                    • Job gains last month: 120,000
                                    • 25 straight months of private sector gob growth
                                    • GDP growth in 2008: negative 6%
                                    • GDP growth last year 2.9%
                                    • Dow Jones Average in January 2008: Under 8000
                                    • Dow Jones Average today: 13,000+
                                    • Record domestic oil production
                                    • GM – all time record profits
                                    • Near record corporate profits across the board
                                    • Osama Bin Laden --- dead
                                    • Iraq war --- over
                                    • 2 votes
                                    #499.5 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:46 PM EDT
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                                    Things you can count on the Republican leadership to screw up:

                                    The deficit. Body armor. Medicare reform. Social Security reform. The minimum wage. Port security. The National Guard. Diplomacy. The Geneva Conventions. Fair elections. Clean elections. Intelligence. Protecting the Constitution. Protecting the Bill of Rights. Government transparency. Oversight. Separation of church and state. The middle class. The poor. Tax reform. Tax cuts. Bankruptcy law. Global warming. Disaster management. Defeating terrorists. Saying no to lobbyists. Saying yes to public opinion. Pre-war planning. Post-war planning. Competence. Civil rights. Civil liberties. Civil debate. Veterans' benefits. Hiring based on ability. Legal surveillance. Morality. Energy policy. Energy independence. End-of-life decisions among spouses. Inclusion. Learning lessons from history. Learning, period. Drug policy. Fiscal responsibility. Trusting the generals. Trusting the spooks. Trusting the experts. Basic honesty. Basic health care. Education. Creating jobs. Keeping CIA operatives' identities secret. Catching Osama. Playing nice. Playing fair. Refilling ice cube trays. Making paper airplanes. Or coffee. Tying their shoelaces. Making friends. Blowing their noses. Counting to ten five three. Sharing their toys. Telling the truth. Uniting the country. Protecting underage kids from a predatory congressman. ou Gop & Teabaggers need to get off here and get a job! Looking at all this you people are certainly in need of a new drug, or whatever your taking you better get off of it fast. Drink no more moonshine either. Obama has got the Black vote, the Hispanic vote,the Gay vote, the Union vote, the Democrat vote, the Highly Educated Women's vote, at least half the Independant vote, the Miltary vote,the Muslim vote, most all the Young peoples vote, the Indians vote, and any one with common sense which even could be the Republican vote to some degree, the Wall street vote!!! And thats not all > I mean are you KIDDING ME, get a education, read a book. Past history thru time gives Obama a 67% chance at a second term- PERIOD! So, the people that do not vote for him are probably just plain ignorant,or racist, with not any knowledge of how thing's work. His achievements are pretty darn good(look them up)(yes, you'll have to go to public record's and get off the couch) and stop listen to bias so called news channels like fox, which is under investigation in three countries including our's. These are FACTS not opinions! And now on top of that thing's are turning around, slowly, but enough I assure you all, housing-nationwide-unemployment(except some of you on here,lol) All three USA car industries made a profit! And people are hiring again, and the wages for some are coming back. So quit your whinning, and educate yourself. And there is not one of us on here that has paid more taxes(income tax) since Obama has been in Office- PERIOD! and THAT IS A FACT DO NOT "JUDGE" what you do not have the intellect, or courage to find out the truth.Truth is understanding the facts, not delusional thinking! It amazes me how people hide behind their computers, and think they have courage.If you can not stand in front of the person or person's you are judging,just stay behind that computer screen and hide. How pathetic so many have become!

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                                    Reply#500 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

                                    JOBS,you forgot JOBS!! 14+% effective unemployment,6.5 trillion dollars spent,3.5 years in office withcomplete contral of Congress for two years!Where are the JOBS!Bury BERRIE-2012!

                                      #500.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

                                      Hold on, mas - we are bringing in some translators.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #500.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

                                      There is much more to that list...but it is a start.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #500.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

                                      Waste of money,solyndra,GM,Colombia,Reverand Wright,Bill AYERS,The Black Panthers,the NEw black panthers,loss of 3million jobs in 3 years,controlof congress and no budget offered or passed in over a 1000 dats and counting,25 vacations per year son that would look like me,declaring America was racsist,Snubbing Isreal Prime minister,bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia,Apologizing to every country on earth except cuba,Michelle,rufusing to go to church,Rev Wright(again)! I could also go on for hours and in fact,ask people out there to add to this list!

                                        #500.4 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:10 PM EDT

                                        DionIdiot, if you like lists, here'a a good one for you to ponder.

                                        First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
                                        First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
                                        First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States .
                                        First President to violate the War Powers Act.
                                        First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .
                                        First President to defy a Federal Judge’s court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.
                                        First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
                                        First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs.
                                        First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
                                        First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
                                        First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.
                                        First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
                                        First President to terminate America ’s ability to put a man in space-defunded NASA.
                                        First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
                                        First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
                                        First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
                                        First President to tell a major manufacturing company (Boeing) in which State they are allowed to locate a factory.
                                        First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
                                        First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
                                        First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
                                        First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
                                        First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date & counting.
                                        First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
                                        First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.

                                        First President to not know how to properly pronounce Navy 'corpsman'.
                                        First President to go on multiple global ‘apology tours’-including bowing to foreign rulers.
                                        First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer.

                                        First President to say that America was not a Christian nation.
                                        First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) just for his wife.
                                        First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.

                                        NOBAMA2012, the Experiment has FAILED

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                                        #500.5 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:10 PM EDT

                                        smith,
                                        typical BS from you...same lame list that is 90% opinion and 10% outright lies.
                                        Facts my man, facts.

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                                        #500.6 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

                                        Damn...and i thought my list was long --- a dog trainer on retainer LOL!!!!!!!

                                        Good job Smitty... let's email that to Mitts campaign staff....I hear they are in all 57 states too.

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                                        #500.7 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

                                        BURY BERRIE-2012! Vote for your country for a change!

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                                        #500.8 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:15 PM EDT

                                        Smithy: Great Comments! Wish I found that list! BURY BERRIE-2012!

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                                        #500.9 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

                                        Sorry DionIdot "my man" those ARE the FACTS.

                                        You are quite welcome to refute them all, however, I seriously doubt that you can.

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                                        #500.10 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

                                        sssmith, I hope you cut and paste that a million times up until November. The media certainly won't mention any of it.

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                                        #500.11 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:24 PM EDT

                                        First Commander In Chief that had to be tutored on how to properly salute - a basic military gesture.
                                        First to visit ALL 57 states.
                                        First to use class warfare - last time it was used: Lenin

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                                        #500.12 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:35 PM EDT

                                        ssmithlg -- I know you would post that moronic crap again so -one more time.

                                        When you have NO ideas, NO solutions, and NO answers, NOTHING positive to offer – you talk about such import things as, birth certificates, Teleprompters, college transcripts, auto-pens, czars, rounds of golf, worthless garbage like that. Then you throw in even more garbage with words and phrases like “socialist” and “Marxist” and “he’s not one of us” – all that kind of crap. But the bottom line is more and more Americans are realizing that the right has NOTHING to offer and that’s why President Obama will be reelected in November.

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                                        #500.13 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

                                        To..Ssmith"""

                                        Obama's 32 Month Report Card-Truth! & Fiction!

                                        Summary of the eRumor:

                                        A forwarded email with what the author calls the many "firsts" of President Barack Obama.

                                        The Truth:

                                        This eRumor appeared all over the Internet in November, 2011 and on various political web sites but it was not found on any major news sites. The email says only that is was authored by someone named Rick Carrol but does not identify him beyond that.

                                        Let us look some of the topics in the article one at a time:

                                        http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-report-card.htm

                                        A SAMPLE OF CAMPAIGN PROMISES KEPT BY PRESIDENT OBAMA

                                        Promise Kept rulings on the The Obameter

                                        9 pages

                                        http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-kept/

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #500.14 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:00 PM EDT
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                                        Romney gets candid with donors

                                        This is about as succinct as it gets with Romneycare. If you are one of the fat cats that kicked in a million or more, you get in on the plan. Weeds out all those commoners that 'worry' about $375,000 like it was a lot of money.

                                          Reply#501 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

                                          Just want to let everyone know that I was collapsed by the community for the first time(very proud).

                                          Feisty, I know you're used to moderators like Keith, Big Ed, Rachel, and Lawrence interviewing the Democrats asking then scripted questions they already know are coming. By contrast, I can see how you would think Gregory is a hack job. Welcome to reality. It's about time to press produced someone with actual integrity. You should be happy someone from the left can think for themselves.

                                          I'm a bad bad boy!

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                                          Reply#502 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

                                          Bravo!!!

                                            #502.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:25 PM EDT
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                                            I saw the video ( at Palm Beach...)
                                            The parking lot was full of Benzs and Bentleys...
                                            Like to be able to afford that kind of access to a possible prez...twould be nice indeed...it is good to be King.
                                            ( not envious of the money, envious of the access )

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                                            Reply#503 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

                                            And when Berrie was in Beverly Hills a month ago,what do you think those poeple were driving,Yugos!Think not.All the limousine Libturds from Hollywood were their in their big ass MERCEDES and BENTLEYS! It was a $35000 per plate affair so i guess you didn't attend!

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                                            #503.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

                                            True...but I bet you money that Obama was not talking about how he could pull a Bain Capital on the government, breaking it up and selling off the parts in foreclosure/bankruptcy.

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                                            #503.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

                                            JOBS.Everything else are distrations designed to keep eveyone from looking at the real problem,loss of 3.5 million jobs in the past 3.5 years and no plan to get them back!BURY BERRIE-2012!

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                                            #503.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:23 PM EDT
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                                            I'm even more of a fan of Romney's now that I read this; not sure what the media prints about the GOP is ever accurate are true however. That is one of his strengths; analyzing, cutting, combining, etc...various departments, agencies, etc...This is what successful venture capitalists do. This is what we need in office, someone to review and not be afraid to cut, trim, combine, various agencies, etc...Finally have someone with a great education and extremely successful business mind. Obama might have a good education; however, being President is his first job. And is shows. If Romney's not the answer, in four years we try again.

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                                            Reply#504 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:10 PM EDT

                                            BREW: Isn't that what your crowd said about Dubya???

                                            You know who else had a great business mind? Herbert Hoover, he was a bigger tycoon that Mittens and he brought us a little something called the Great Depression.

                                            Mittens will say ANYTHING he thinks the public wants to hear. He ran as a full fledge LIBERAL in Massachusetts, to THE LEFT OF TEDDY KENNEDY, a feat not easily achieved. He's gone back on ever promise he made when a Governor. Pro Choice, pro gun control, anti Reagan, pro gay rights, pro gay's serving in the military. You name it, he's had 3 different stances on it.

                                              #504.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

                                              You just described Obama. He's more to the middle than ever right now. And "Dubya" did not have close to the actual business experience as Mitt. Obama walked out of law school and into the White House.

                                                #504.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

                                                Ozzie Boy,WHERE ARE THE JOBS.We are already in a depression brought on by your ruthless and uninformed president! His only experience in running anything was a community resource committee similar to that of ACORN.Remember Acorn,one of his early and biggest followers which was getting 10 of miilion of dollars a year to register DEMOCRAP voters! That was until they got caught!He needs a few years working with something less complicated than a federal goverement!

                                                  #504.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:28 PM EDT

                                                  Maybe a snoball stand

                                                    #504.4 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:36 PM EDT

                                                    So we do away with educationn, keep em stupid, I see! That is the repug mentality. And lets not forget to keep the women folk pregnant and stupid. And the poor, no need to worry about them they don't count, the old, let em die, less to worry about. That is what you want. Shameful

                                                      #504.5 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:39 PM EDT
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                                                      This is what your President won't show you until after the election:

                                                      MEDICARE

                                                      Look clearly at the 2014 rate compared to the 2013 rate.

                                                      For those of you who are on
                                                      Medicare, read the following. It's short, but

                                                      important and you probably
                                                      haven't heard about it in the Mainstream News:

                                                      "The per person Medicare
                                                      Insurance Premium will increase from the present

                                                      Monthly Fee of $96.40, rising to:

                                                      $104.20 in 2012

                                                      $120.20 in 2013

                                                      And

                                                      $247.00
                                                      in 2014."

                                                      These are Provisions
                                                      incorporated in the Obamacare Legislation, purposely

                                                      delayed so as not to confuse
                                                      the 2012 Re-Election Campaigns. Send this to

                                                      all Seniors that you know, so they will know who's throwing them under the

                                                      bus.

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                                                      Reply#505 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

                                                      The Ryan budget endorsed by Romney would REMOVE medicare and medicaid...what a tool.

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                                                      #505.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:15 PM EDT

                                                      Better than what that bitch Paul Ryan intend's to do. Which is to completely dismantle it. No thanks.

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                                                      #505.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

                                                      No it doesn't. But the PPACA will.

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                                                      #505.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

                                                      DEMS LYIN’ ABOUT RYAN’S MEDICARE PLAN

                                                      Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) has put forward the only sane proposition for saving Medicare that we have seen in years, and this has predictably made him the target of hysterical and dishonest attacks from the Democrats. They have accused Ryan of a variety of dark plots including the following:

                                                      This Republican path to poverty passes like a tornado through seniors’ nursing homes … Make no mistake about it, the Ryan budget is a war on seniors … Republicans are literally trying to kill Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

                                                      This is pure demagoguery, of course. The Democrats are, as usuual, being completely irresponsible. As Betsy McGaughey puts it in the WSJ, the Medicare status quo isn’t one of our choices:

                                                      The Democratic Party is urging Americans to choose Medicare as we’ve always known it rather than a new plan by Rep. Paul Ryan … This choice is a hoax: Medicare as we’ve always known it is already gone. It was eviscerated by President Obama’s health law.

                                                      Medicare was already in deep financial trouble before the advent of of ObamaCare, but once the President and his accomplices in Congress got finished with it, the program had become a piggy bank.

                                                      The truth is that the Obama health law reduces future funding for Medicare by $575 billion over the next 10 years and spends the money on other programs … Mr. Obama’s law raids Medicare.

                                                      Ryan’s plan would, on the other hand, stop the Democrats from raiding the Medicare program. This is, of course, why they and their accomplices in the “news” media are attacking him.

                                                      The Ryan plan offers each new Medicare enrollee a choice of private health plans and a premium paid to the plan they choose. The key is that the premium will be equivalent to what Medicare is projected to spend under the Obama health law … more for the oldest enrollees …

                                                      This is, for all intents and purposes, the only prayer Medicare has of surviving and providing anything like the benefits the program now offers its beneficiaries. But then Dems aren’t interested in discussing it.

                                                      They care about one thing—the next election. If they have to bankrupt Medicare (or the whole country for that matter) to win that election, that’s what they’ll do. So, we’re back to the old “Mediscare” routine.

                                                      Ryan’s plan is honest and realistic. The Democrat plan, ObamaCare, is a gigantic fraud. The House cleaning that was done in 2010 needs to be extended to the Senate and the White House in 2012.

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                                                      #505.4 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

                                                      I love the b.s. you libs spew. Eliminating, but replacing with something equitable or better is not just getting rid of something. I'm all for overhauling every aspect of a horribly run government.

                                                        #505.5 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:28 PM EDT

                                                        The Ryan removes Medicaid and Medicare 25 years from now and sustituties it with a similar but less costly plan.Read and learn!Yuong workers would be able to set up expanded and partially paid medical 401-k's,401k retirement accounts if they wished to opt out of SS.You really need a class in honesty!

                                                          #505.6 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:31 PM EDT

                                                          To..ssmith"""

                                                          Ryan’s Plan Still Ends Medicare Even If PolitiFact Rates That As A Lie

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                                                          Brian Beutler December 20, 2011, 11:26 AM 21575

                                                          Here’s a long, sad story about how Democrats’ basically true claim that House Republicans voted to end Medicare ended up “winning” PolitiFact’s Lie of the Year award — a development that will help the right and the GOP create their own reality as the future of the social safety net becomes a defining issue of the 2012 campaign.

                                                          Back in April, House Republicans passed a budget that included a plan to phase out Medicare over several years and build in its place a subsidized, private insurance marketplace for seniors.

                                                          Democrats called this a vote to “end Medicare.”

                                                          You can quibble. It wasn’t a vote to end Medicare — BLAM! — all at once. But under the GOP plan, within a couple decades, the current health retirement program for old people would be gone and in its place would be an entirely different one. It would just, by political design, have the same name: Medicare.

                                                          Ignoring policy in favor of process, and with an eye toward political balance, PolitiFact rated this basically true Democratic claim “Pants on Fire.”

                                                          Liberals, economists, health policy experts, and yours truly objected strongly to PolitiFact’s conclusion. But instead of rethinking their conclusion, the PolitiFact turned the opprobrium into a badge of honor:

                                                          The claim itself became a candidate for PolitiFact’s “Lie of the Year” contest; Paul Ryan — the House GOP budget chairman who authored the plan — engaged in a modest ballot stuffing campaign; and the Democrats’ true “lie” came in third place, just behind the GOP claim that the stimulus created zero jobs, and Sen. Jon Kyl’s claim that abortion services are “well over 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does.”

                                                          http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/how-dems-true-claim-that-the-gop-voted-to-end-medicare-became-politifact-lie-of-the-year.php

                                                            #505.7 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:06 PM EDT
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                                                            Comment author avatarJim Tempvia Facebook

                                                            There was a SHOCKING revelation in a private conversation between the Obama's, this was overheard, word for word and recorded, but, damn, tape recorder batteries were dead. We are lucky though, Chuck Todd can confirm word for word what was said, as long as knows someone that overheard it.

                                                              Reply#506 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

                                                              Where do you repukes get these ridiculous lists? My second question is, are you truly so brainwashed by Faux and Rush that you believe these things? God help us all if your answer is, "Yes."

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                                                              #507 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

                                                              PENELOPE: Could there be any doubt that their answer is yes?? These are the folks who listen to Limbaugh and actually think what they're hearing is all facts.

                                                                #507.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

                                                                Penelope 2,

                                                                We get all our information from MSNBC, Chuck the Schmuck and that Far Left doorknob of a princess, Rachel Madcow. That's how we stay informed.

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                                                                #507.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:28 PM EDT

                                                                There also people who listen to Obama and actually think he's telling the truth. I don't know one person who listens to any far right or left idiot like Mahr. It's not an easy task listening to many who know nothing but telling you what they think you want to hear. And if you really, really think Ryan want to "just get rid of Medicare" and kick seniors to the curb, you are either lying to yourself or don't listen very closely, as you know that it's not the case at all.

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                                                                #507.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

                                                                These "ridiculous lists" of researchable FACTS burn these Libidiots like Holy Water on a Vampire's skin.

                                                                First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
                                                                First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
                                                                First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States .
                                                                First President to violate the War Powers Act.
                                                                First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .
                                                                First President to defy a Federal Judge’s court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.
                                                                First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
                                                                First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs.
                                                                First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
                                                                First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
                                                                First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.
                                                                First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
                                                                First President to terminate America ’s ability to put a man in space-defunded NASA.
                                                                First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
                                                                First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
                                                                First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
                                                                First President to tell a major manufacturing company (Boeing) in which State they are allowed to locate a factory.
                                                                First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
                                                                First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
                                                                First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
                                                                First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
                                                                First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date & counting.
                                                                First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
                                                                First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.

                                                                First President to not know how to properly pronounce Navy 'corpsman'.
                                                                First President to go on multiple global ‘apology tours’-including bowing to foreign rulers.
                                                                First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer.

                                                                First President to say that America was not a Christian nation.
                                                                First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) just for his wife.
                                                                First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.

                                                                NOBAMA2012, the End of an ERROR


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                                                                #507.4 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

                                                                DAVE DIMWIT; Why don't you get your "news" from Faux News?? Roger Ailes would never give you a bum steer. It's not like he and his boss have an axe to grind, just because in an earlier life, he was a hit man for Dick Nixon. They're "fair & balanced" right buddy??? LOL

                                                                You've got some pair bitching about NBC with a joke of a news source like Fox, a 24/7 Propaganda machine for the GOP.

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                                                                #507.5 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:34 PM EDT

                                                                JOBS,That's the issue we need to discuss !Penelope2! You haven't been around in a couple of days.I figured you were covering a gay/lesbo thread and too busy to read much about political affairs!

                                                                  #507.6 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:37 PM EDT

                                                                  Ozzie Boy,

                                                                  It's all true, putz!

                                                                    #507.7 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

                                                                    No matter hos many times you post it ssmitlg -- it's still BS. What it proves is when you have NO ideas, NO solutions, and NO answers, NOTHING positive to offer – you talk about such import things as, birth certificates, Teleprompters, college transcripts, auto-pens, czars, rounds of golf, worthless garbage like that. Then you throw in even more garbage with words and phrases like “socialist” and “Marxist” and “he’s not one of us” – all that kind of crap. But the bottom line is more and more Americans are realizing that the right has NOTHING to offer and that’s why President Obama will be reelected in November.

                                                                    • 2 votes
                                                                    #507.8 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:54 PM EDT

                                                                    Ozzie,

                                                                    I just thought you would like to know how it feels to have someone tell you what you should watch, or listen to. For your information I dislike Limbaugh and can honestly say I have never spent more than one minute listening to him and that was the time it took to find another channel. I watch Fox News, only because I get both sides. They should try providing all the news on NBC, or any other media outlet, for that matter. I really can't imagine why anyone, in their right mind, would waste time, listening to, or watching MSNBC> The fact is, not that many do, unless that person is so far Left, they can't put both shoes on. Suggestion: Don't tell me what to watch and listen to and I won't tell you to stop heading for the cliff. Deal?

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                                                                    #507.9 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:04 PM EDT

                                                                    Obama's 32 Month Report Card-Truth! & Fiction!

                                                                    Summary of the eRumor:

                                                                    A forwarded email with what the author calls the many "firsts" of President Barack Obama.

                                                                    The Truth:

                                                                    This eRumor appeared all over the Internet in November, 2011 and on various political web sites but it was not found on any major news sites. The email says only that is was authored by someone named Rick Carrol but does not identify him beyond that.

                                                                    Let us look some of the topics in the article one at a time:

                                                                    http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-report-card.htm

                                                                    A SAMPLE OF CAMPAIGN PROMISES KEPT BY PRESIDENT OBAMA

                                                                    Promise Kept rulings on the The Obameter

                                                                    9 pages

                                                                    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-kept/

                                                                      #507.10 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:17 PM EDT

                                                                      To Dave """"

                                                                      On fox you get both sides of what ...why are fox viewers the most misinformed of all news viewers

                                                                        #507.11 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:19 PM EDT

                                                                        To Amunaka"""

                                                                        the most misinformed of what?

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                                                                        #507.12 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

                                                                        TO..David""""

                                                                        Oh sorry ....if fox is one thing they're consistent ..

                                                                        fox news viewers had 80% Misperceptions

                                                                        Misperceptions, the Media and the Iraq War
                                                                        Study Finds Widespread Misperceptions on Iraq
                                                                        Highly Related to Support for War

                                                                        October 02, 2003

                                                                        A new study based on a series of seven US polls conducted from January through September of this year reveals that before and after the Iraq war, a majority of Americans have had significant misperceptions and these are highly related to support for the war in Iraq.

                                                                        The polling, conducted by the Program on International Policy (PIPA) at the University of Maryland and Knowledge Networks, also reveals that the frequency of these misperceptions varies significantly according to individuals’ primary source of news.

                                                                        Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely.

                                                                        http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/102.php?nid=&id=&pnt=102&lb=brusc

                                                                        Study: Fox News Viewers Misunderstand Issues More than Others

                                                                        Dec 17th, 2010

                                                                        Fox News Channel viewers were more likely to misunderstand a host of issues and subjects during this fall’s election season than people who relied more on other news sources such as MSNBC, PBS and the network evening newscasts, according to a study just released by the University of Maryland.

                                                                        To be clear, the study doesn’t say FNC or any other TV news organization deliberately fed misinformation to its viewers. Instead, the study attempted to assess the ability of members of FNC’s audience, and others, to process or understand information correctly.

                                                                        As a result, the study concluded that, when issues were misunderstood, they were misunderstood most of the time by a greater percentage of the FNC audience than any other group.

                                                                        http://www.convo.io/news/13674/study-fox-news-viewers-misunderstand-issues-more-than-others

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                                                                        #507.13 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:55 PM EDT

                                                                        Why do the left keep bringing up this bogus poll?

                                                                        Hey Amunaka, remember all those videos of Obama supporters stating that they would no longer have to worry about their bills because Obama would take care of them "out of his stash"? Do you think we could find enough of them and conduct a "poll" that demonstrates the members of the left are 100% idiots? I bet we can.

                                                                          #507.14 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:10 PM EDT

                                                                          To..weery'''

                                                                          No ...and neither do you ...

                                                                            #507.15 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:35 PM EDT

                                                                            'I dislike Limbaugh and can honestly say I have never spent more than one minute listening to him'

                                                                            Funny -- most every conservative I know says they don't listen to the junkie Limbaugh yet most of them can quote him almost word for word.

                                                                              #507.16 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:39 AM EDT
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                                                                              So he wants to shrink a massive, disgusting and bloated federal gov't?

                                                                              When do we get to the bad part?

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                                                                              Reply#508 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

                                                                              HEDWARD: Yea, he want's to shrink the evil "Big Government" in the same that Dubya and The Gipper did.

                                                                              Which is to say, talking about shrinking government while in reality you double the size of it. That's what Bush did and your hero, Reagan as well, he doubled it.

                                                                                #508.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

                                                                                Ozzie, even Republicans have trouble stopping the runaway train of massive government spending. Reagan had a lot of success; Bush less so. At least they tried.

                                                                                Obama is in FAVOR of massive deficit spending. he has no plant to stop it. Obama wants government to run our lives and decrease our freedom, and he has insanely increased the szie and scope of Nanny State government.

                                                                                2012 may be our last chance to stop the statist madness.

                                                                                So growing government is a good thing, or a bad thing?

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                                                                                #508.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

                                                                                Ozzie, even Republicans have trouble stopping the runaway train of massive government spending. Reagan had a lot of success; Bush less so. At least they tried.

                                                                                Bob -- how brain dead are you?? Reagan spent more money in his first for years than all other presidents before him combined. Bush and his Republican Congress brought us two unfunded wars, two unfunded tax cuts, a massive, unfunded, new entitlement, the largest expansion of government since LBJ, and turned the largest surplus of all times into the largest deficit of all times and leaving office with the worst economy since the depressions. Republicans TALK abut cutting spending but TALK is all they do.

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                                                                                #508.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:58 PM EDT
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                                                                                Nice spin on the NY Times article concerning big money donors. Robert Kennedy, who was quoted in the article and would know, described it as a "quid pro quo" relationship. Favors for sale.

                                                                                  Reply#509 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

                                                                                  WEERY You can thank our Conservative controlled Supreme Court and their Citizens United ruling. Evidently they felt that our political system lacked only one thing, MORE MONEY. And with this ruling, they're opened the floodgates, the worst is yet to come. Thank the GOP for this.

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                                                                                  #509.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:31 PM EDT

                                                                                  You are deranged Ozzie Boy!The dems are responsible for all the spending.Remember,last election the dims spent something like 700 million dollars to get Berrie elected.Berrie wants to have available 1 billion for this election!Where do you think he gets all of his money ,bby farming black and poor neighborhoods? lol!He;s a whore and has been his entire life. BURY BERRIE-2012!

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                                                                                  #509.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:41 PM EDT

                                                                                  Ozzie

                                                                                  Your spin (and prior posts) only demonstrate your complete lack of understanding as to the subject (any subject) at hand.

                                                                                  I will especially thank the conservative Court after they strike down the PPACA. I look for the vote to be 6-3 so I will have to thank Sotomayor also.

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                                                                                  #509.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

                                                                                  Ozzie, why are you so enamoured with Obama? What has he done, besides almost ruin this country?

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                                                                                  #509.4 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:05 PM EDT
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                                                                                  It's insane how much dirty money Obama is raking in. Over $50 million in a week??? He's walking hand in hand with the major corporations so much that this fascist system can't be stopped. That's an insane amount of money.

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                                                                                  Reply#510 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

                                                                                  KEITH: I have but one thing to say to you. CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARE, CLASSWARE.

                                                                                  Are you some kind of Commie of something? I thought the Right worshipped money and thought that only good comes out of it? Or does it just really piss you off to know there are so many big money Liberals??? Eat your heart out.

                                                                                    #510.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

                                                                                    All Obama knows is dirty money. It's a shame he doesn't donate any of the hundreds of millions he's being given by the unions and other trash to those that could use it. Never mind I think Biden donated $200 again this year to charity.

                                                                                      #510.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:35 PM EDT

                                                                                      Ozzie, Your Boy Obama is going down in FLAMES this November and all you can do is rearrange deck chairs on the "DNC Titanic". TOO FUNNY.

                                                                                      NOBAMA2012, The Experiment has FAILED MISERABLY.

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                                                                                      #510.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:40 PM EDT
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                                                                                      Cut Education.... and Woo the Latino's .. .. Doesn't ONE equal the Other???

                                                                                        Reply#511 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

                                                                                        The GOP has no plan.
                                                                                        no solutions besides taxing the rich to continue tax cuts for the wealthy.
                                                                                        no talent in the game. ( that original group may be the worst candidate list in all of US history. Gilligans Island bad. )
                                                                                        no empathy
                                                                                        no convictions besides "Obama Bad."
                                                                                        no heart
                                                                                        no ideas

                                                                                        The GOP does have...
                                                                                        Fear and the mongering therof.
                                                                                        Hate for anyone not 'like' them.
                                                                                        Religious persecution issues.
                                                                                        The ability to hold in their heads these two ideas...first idea, all babies should be born...second idea, why should we pay to take care of these babies?
                                                                                        The perception that a pregnant women no longer has the basic Constitutional rights given to all 'men'.
                                                                                        A fear and distrust of intelligence ( elites ) and science ( the bible, new testemant )

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                                                                                        Reply#512 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

                                                                                        You have no coherent post, just a moonbat rant.

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                                                                                        #512.1 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:35 PM EDT

                                                                                        Dion,

                                                                                        Besides your little dumb-ass rant and falsifications about republicans, what Constitutional rights don't pregnant women have?

                                                                                        P.S. I guess there are no such things as pregnant republicans.

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                                                                                        #512.2 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:36 PM EDT

                                                                                        Bernie...two words...vaginal ultrasound.

                                                                                        Bob...you can use the ultrasound wand in other ways...:)

                                                                                          #512.3 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:38 PM EDT

                                                                                          BERNIE: You don't think that your party is doing everything in their power to outlaw abortion in everything but name??? If so, then you have not been paying attention the last year or two.

                                                                                          Sadly, the cranks in your party are deeply concerned with the rights of a fetus, but somewhat less so the instant it's brought into this world. At that time, it bothers them not, if that child starves, grows up in grinding poverty, never gets a decent education and either is incarcerated for most of it's life, dies in gang violence or drug addiction. Funny people you Righties.

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                                                                                          #512.4 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:40 PM EDT

                                                                                          Yea BERNIE, you married??? If so, how'd you like a stranger using vaginal probes on your wife FOR NO MEDICAL REASON WHATSOEVER other than to shame her into not having an abortion.

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                                                                                          #512.5 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

                                                                                          Ozzie and Dion,

                                                                                          I had no idea that was a "Constitutional right"....

                                                                                          Silly me..............

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                                                                                          #512.6 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

                                                                                          DionIdiot, that little list of yours....... REALLY?

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                                                                                          #512.7 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

                                                                                          WHERE ARE THE JOBS ,DIONYSUS! 6.5 trillion dollars spent. Complete control of Congree for two years,3.5 larsyears in office and a 14+% effective unemployment rate!3.5 million lost jobs in 3.5 years! Time to go BURY BERRY-2012!

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                                                                                          #512.8 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

                                                                                          Really childish, are you like... 14 years old.

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                                                                                          #512.9 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

                                                                                          No BERNIE, not silly, ignorant & stupid is more like it. The holy rollers in the GOP are doing their utmost to foist their supersticions on the rest of the country. If they want to believe in the Tooth Fairy, be my guest, but don't ever try to force your ridiculous beliefs on others.

                                                                                          Evidently you've never heard of "Roe vs. Wade". Even the Reich Wing scumbags currently on the court have said that they consider the abortion issue to be settled law. Not that I believe those bastards for one moment, but that's what they say.

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                                                                                          #512.10 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:48 PM EDT

                                                                                          Ozzie,
                                                                                          It is okay...these guys like to list off a whole crapload of opinions couched as 'facts'.
                                                                                          It is a typical GOP tactic.
                                                                                          Repeat the lie often enough and it begins to be percieved as truth.
                                                                                          There are STILL people who believe Sadam had a nuclear weapon...
                                                                                          There are STILL people who think Dubya was a good president.
                                                                                          Half of southerners in the US think Obama is a Muslim or not sure if he is not a Muslim
                                                                                          About half of the US doesn't believe in Evolution...prefering a fable over facts.
                                                                                          And I could go through each and every one of their so called factual lists and show how each is wrong, but it would be a moot exercise, as their minds would never really change, no matter what factual and logical answers are presented to their stunted ability to think criticaly.

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                                                                                          #512.11 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:58 PM EDT
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