As Governor of Massachusetts he supported the banning of assault weapons and supported the requirement for background checks – all laws the NRA was against. He claimed he owned a gun when he did not. He claimed he was a hunter but his hunting was limited to 2 times that he hunted rodents with a borrowed 22. Hunters do not consider that as qualifying as a hunter.

He told the NRA he supported them and the second amendment but he did not talk about any gun issues, not even his opinion on the Stand Your Ground law that dominates current events.

[Eighteen minutes into his speech, Romney pivoted to Second Amendment issues, pledging to stand up for the rights of hunters, sportsman and other gun owners, and accusing the president of failing to do so.] The only bill that our President signed into law that had anything to do with gun rights was to expand them.

Romney = Pander & Gutless

Obama has not done anything to anger Obama, yet they automatically attack him because of his party and a few other intangibles. On Obama's watch, you are now allowed to bring your gun to national parks. Why would you need one? It's anyone's guess. Watch out for bears filching picnic baskets and campers in hoodies!

We can soon expect to see Mitt in an ad wearing camoflage and shooting some quail pegged onto the ground while Dick smiles on approvingly.

Feisty, LoL, his two feet are varmints. I'm guessing if Mitt actually did hunt, he'd accidentally shoot his feet.

Dennis, perfect description of Mittens and I wrote a long piece below which you summed up in Romney=Pander & Gutless.

One of many things I liked about then Candidate Obama was he didn't put on a hunter's vest and hit the fields to shoot "varmints"; he never pandered to the NRA, never suggested he was a hunter or owned guns.

I'm guessing if Mitt actually did hunt, he'd accidentally shoot his feet.

Willard is to stupid to realize he was wearing bunny slippers as he took aim!

Wayne - Mitt in cammo - I'm still chuckling. Can you imagine him carrying a gun - or would he have someone do it for him?

Mitt doesn't seem to understand what has happened with gun laws during the Obama administration. Obama has expanded gun rights and Mitt is somehow against that? Oh my - he is SEVERELY challenged, isn't he? But, he'll go back and ask Ann if he said the right things. Will the NRA anoint him as their sacred candidate????

On a serious note it is SO frightening that this imbecile is the BEST the GOP has!

Obama/Biden 2012

Broad attacks are what turn me off even more from Mitt Romney.

Not only will he not give any potential solutions, but now he cannot even clearly state the problem.

the flip-flop is back again

feisty i got collapsed earlier today :P

Mitt in cammo - I'm still chuckling. Can you imagine him carrying a gun - or would he have someone do it for him?

Maybe he could have Ann carry it for him. She sure does carry a lot of water for him. What about Karl he seems to want to prop Mitt up.

Yes sirree, we have officially entered into 'silly season'..

And you are as silly as they get....

Here is the thing... Every 4 years we vote out one idiot, and vote in a new one... None are better than the rest. Its all based on how crappy they are. A lot of people vote party line;, my X wives family is a prime example; they vote democrat, no matter what. If it was Hitller, today? They would vote for him... Its sad. Every president we have had, has had issues.... Clinton banged Monica... Bush did drugs.. Its the way it goes. But ya wanna know the real bottom line?

If you do not support the president of the states.... You are no patriot. Good or bad.. we have to support our President... We have to... remember that statment? United we stand, divided we fall... Support our president.....Obama, Bush, Clinton, whatever.... Lets be a nation....

feisty i got collapsed earlier today :P

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Romney's "broad attack" is only confirmation of his War on Women!

I enjoy sport target shooting and own a few .22 caliber pistols for that purpose. Immediately after the election in 2008, and for at least a year after it was almost impossible to find rounds, even the ubiquitous .22LR. Stocks of guns and ammunition in shops I visited were largely depleted. In answer to my queries I found the manufacturers were still pumping out guns and ammo at full capacity, but these item were selling faster than the stocks could be replenished.

Why?

"Obama's gonna take our guns. Obama's gonna make it illegal to sell guns." And et cetera ad nauseum.

The first time I heard this I thought it was a joke, but quickly found out there was no humor in the fact people were hoarding guns and ammunition in fear and sincere belief that the President was actually going to "take our guns."

An LA Times article this morning reported the NRA does not care much for Mr. Romney (does anyone?) but is backing him fully.

The panic has subsided, Mr. Obama did not take our guns. Rounds are now readily available and I can resume happily poking holes in the center of targets. "I think anybody is better than Obama when it comes to gun issues," her husband interjected. What does that mean?

I realize the NRA exists as a lobbying organization with a very specific agenda, I believe their agenda is often too extreme for me and consequently even though I am a shooter I will not join them. Even though I am not aware of the NRA coming out and blatantly stating "Obama wants to take our guns" they certainly do not make the effort to dispel that notion within their membership. Quite obviously Mr. Romney is playing this factor.

This chicken sh!t of a candidate, doesn't have the testicular fortitude to be a hunter, much less be an NRA member. Yet there he stood amidst that crowd who leach testosterone in barrel fulls, and he couldn't or wouldn't talk about guns.

Your severely conservative base wont like that, but then come to think of it, the President is a good topic for that crowd.

A recent report said there is little interest among Dems in Congress to pass any firearm restrictions. With Republicans in control of the lower Chamber and that 60 votes would be needed in the upper Chamber I don’t foresee any gun law restrictions at the Federal level anytime soon.

1. Get Rid of the IDIOTIC "Stand Your Ground" laws!!
2. The NRA has managed to make killing people a sport!
3. They gotta do something with all those guns they's a stockpiling...
4. There's nothing silly about these guns and the NUTS that stockpile them

Arizonatime - does a comment like that make you fell like a real human being? News Flash - you aren't!

Arizonatime is still smarting from that little Pink Pistol incident that did away with his weenie a while back in AZ ... LOL

Hi Dennis,

I agree that congress is not going to take up any gun laws, now or in the immediate future. I believe gun laws should be a state rights issue. Federal law, one size fits all, will not work and shouldn't even be considered. Example gun laws in western states like Montana, Wyoming, Idaho etc., should and would be greatly different than those in states with larger city populations like CA, NY, PA, Ill, Ohio. I support the right to keep and bears arms but do not agree with the NRA about assault rifles, machine guns, & military style weapons.

One concern with a lot of NRA members and others like me (non members of NRA but gun owners), is once you start banning it never seems to stop, the anti gun people just want to keep pushing the envelope until all weapons are banned.

Mark and Others,

I too own quite a few guns. Pistols, rifles, and shotguns. I enjoy plinking and shooting clay pigeons at our local range. I hunt turkey and deer, although usually those hunts end up being a nice walk in the woods carrying a gun.

When I started this hobby, I ended up on the NRA mailing list. I became a member for a year. I was shocked at the lack of any useful information on owning a rifle in this nation. Instead, I was blasted with anti-government, anti-Obama propaganda. Constantly. I got the "Rifleman" I think the NRA magazine was called. Its editorial page was always bashing liberals and specifically the President. I never renewed my subscription, even though they tempted me with gifts ranging from a silver "NRA" bullet, and a range bag.

This president, by letting loaded firearms into National Forests, has done more for gun owners than anything King George the Retard ever did. Quick-Draw Dick probably did more harm for gun-owners than any VP in history.

Real Americans can see through the hyperbole of the Right and will re-elect BHO for another term.

@arazonatime,

Way to represent your state as a bunch of ignorant, dirty-minded children. BTW, you don't use an apostrophe to create a plural. Sorry, you probably didn't get that: Don't use one of those little marky thingies between the k and the s in dicks. That's only if you are putting together two words (called a contraction, can you say contraction? Good boy), or to show that the item is owned by someone (called possessive), and if you own a dick, congratulations. If you own or have access to many dicks, well... that says a lot about you and your repressed state.

So when are we going to get down to brass tacks and start talking about what the GOP nominee will do, rather than what he claims Obama has or hasn't done?

If the American people are lazy enough to fall for another empty suit, we deserve what we get.

(Kinda reminds me of the GOP's response to being called hypocrites when they were hammering Obama over "lying" about closing Guantanamo. "But we never said we would close it!")

I've got a new nickname for Romney: Pander Bear

Romney once again opens his mouth and out comes a torrent of lies. It's really sad how the media parrots this guys B.S.

I was just reading another article about how the TARP loans will all be paid back with a profit to the taxpayers. Of course you won't ever hear Willard mention that will you.

When Bush and Paulson handed 700 billion dollars to Wall Street it was done without strings or even an audit. When Obama took office he appointed Elizabeth Warren to find out were the money went. She tracked down all the money and that is the reason the loans will be paid back with interest to the U.S treasury. The TARP story shows the true contrast between Republicans and Democrats. Had the Republicans won the presidency in 2008 that 700 billion dollars would have just vanished never to be seen again.

Over the passed 40 some years the Republican Party has morphed into a criminal organization with only one purpose and that is to steal as much as possible from the American people. The public is beginning to wake up to this fact and November is going to be pay back time.

@Mikey,

Not sure that the SF Giants 3rd baseman would like that close of an association.

:-)

Here we go again the same lie used in 2008 for the believe everything politically convenient crowd...substation or fact check? never!

No no.... the NRA would never lie to scare people into buying guns in mass...

If you look at the record of each administration on what they have done about access to guns, you would be convinced that Obama is for the NRA, and Romney is against it. Romney supported restricting assault weapons. President Obama authorized the carrying of guns in our national parks, how many millions of acres is that ?

And don't forget, the Obama administration was responsible for getting thousands of guns and rifles into the hands of many hispanics... but the Dems probably don't want to mention that.

Hmm, scratching head, wasn't/isn't President Obama the very first President to sign into law the expansion of gun rights for you guys by allowing the carrying of your weapons in National Parks for the first time, ever? Even the NRAs chosen child Bush/Cheney didn't get that one done.

But yeah, the 2nd amendment applies to everyone. Well unless everyone is in a Militia, then yeah, you can have that gun!.. Obama isn't taking your guns away, so calm down.

Again the sky is falling, the sky is Fn falling, scream the GOP. 2 choices in November 2012. Elect the GOP, which has proven its stance is Anti-America, pro-world occupation. Or the Dems who are anti-war and Pro-America(n)? The GOP aka Goofy Old People Party, want to rule America with a bible in 1 hand and a automatic weapon in the other. Or the Dems, who are Liberal and we all know that being Liberal means you are more open-minded, and open to allowing freedom of religon. Unlike the GOP and Santorum who want to rule America with Judea-Christian Sharia Law.

Elect the GOP in 2012 and we'll get war, occupation (home and abroad) and very high gas prices. You'll see 20% unemployment and crime rampant under the nex regime of the GOP and its hostile take-over of America and the World

rushisageishagirl come to my neighborhood...... and try walking around without a weapon. Read the Detroit free press for a week straight. See how many people are shot, the last was a 19 year old mother walking her baby. She had her clothes ripped off and when she tried to run away......the "creature" shot her in the back. late a night, Nooooooo broad daylight with people around. Sorry I want to be around for a while..... Im carrying a legal weapon. Not to be upstaged by the 5 guys who kidnapped two young ladies in a car trunk and shot them in the head, shallow graved them. You going to kneel down and whimper for your last minute of Life?

"President Obama is moving us away from our founders vision," Romney told several thousand members of the NRA gathered here today. "Instead of limited government he is leading us toward limited freedom and limited opportunity."

So hold on a second; since when is Obama taking away our freedoms. I'll admit that the NDAA and the Patriot Act were poor decisions, but when else??? He's done practically nothing for restricting gun laws, and his individual mandate is a practical compromise (although I wish there was a public option involved). AS for economic freedom, I personally say that Obama hasn't done enough to regulate the economy, mostly the financial and housing markets. Dodd-Frank was good, but I would have rather put Glass Steagall back. Housing, well, it's improving. But he still could do more. I think that we gave too much freedom to the corporations over the past 30 years, and now its time to tighten the rope. Overturn Citizens United; punish the people who caused the recession, and help homeowners struggling to stay in their homes.

And this is from the guy who wants to defund Planned Parenthood (which helps low-income women) and overturn Roe v Wade. What a hypocrite...

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

Thanks for the reminder Romney -- About the NRA and A.L.E.C., where are we on the boycotts? Have we shut down that nasty-arse GOP/TP operation yet?

And speaking of anti-democracy, when are we going to see more reporting on Teapublican autocracy in Michigan?

And don't forget folks, there could be one to two SCOTUS appointments in the next term, so make sure you and your friends get out the vote to reelect President Obama. No more Citizen's United for us!

did mr. romney mention the only thing obama has done in the gun rights realm is expand them? no. why? because anybody who relates facts amidst republicans is socialist, commie, feminazi, fascist, abortionist, media bias, illegal loving, tree hugging, liberal pinko, godless immoral atheist, intellectual elite snob, child hating/mollester, women hating fool.

sfcret,

One concern with a lot of NRA members and others like me (non members of NRA but gun owners), is once you start banning it never seems to stop, the anti gun people just want to keep pushing the envelope until all weapons are banned.

I can understand that concern but that is the same logic the extreme anti-gay marriage crowd uses when it states legalizing gay marriage will lead to people marrying their pets. Somewhere reason and balance must win out. Prohibiting exotic weapons does not interfere in any way with the use and enjoyment of sporting and hunting arms and I have to believe reasonable legislators realize this.

jollyoldsoul1

I fully support legal carriage of firearms but it sounds like guns are the least of the problems in the neighborhood to which you refer.

I really wish Mitt would actually talk about his plans and policies instead of just talking smack about Obama.

Feisty

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Can anyone who tell me why those of religion beliefs and claim to be Christians don't know the meaning of the word "TRUTH". They are all hypocrites especially Romney. I listened to him speaking in front of the NRA, national rats of America, and every time he opened his mouth he lied. Technology is great so there is no reason why Americans should be ignorant of the true facts.

Feisty,

Perhaps he thinks clay pigeons are varmints.

JKH

American Socialist - that would mean he would actually have to HAVE plans and policies!

winkerCan anyone who tell me why those of religion beliefs and claim to be Christians don't know the meaning of the word "TRUTH

who knows there are hypocrites are everywhere anymore. Im a christian myself and people like that embarrass me.

Romney talking abut President Obama's "assault" on basic freedoms -- especially gun rights??? What assault??? Tell us Mitt -- what legislation has President Obama even proposed that assaults gun rights. Romney is simply doing what 21st republicans do best --- lie and spread fear.

You know, I actually have to hand it to Mittens for having the sheer GAUL to appear at an NRA conference with his past record. Fascinating that LaPierre didn't call him out on it, but I guess he's too busy lying about the President's record to pay attention to details.

I was just reading another article about how the TARP loans will all be paid back with a profit to the taxpayers. Of course you won't ever hear Willard mention that will you.

TARP was done under Bush. And yes, it is being paid back so you won't ever hear Obama mention it either.

What's next, Mitt? Are you going to ride around to campaign stops in an old Chevy....oops...strike that....Ford pick-em-up truck with a .30-.30 and a .12-gauge shotgun on the gun-rack? Don't forget the flannel shirts, faded blue jeans, a gimme cap, a 12-pack of Busch in the floorboard, America Love it or Leave it bumper sticker, confederate flag decal in the rear window, and an autographed picture of Dale Earnhardt in your wallet.

Oh Mittens, you ARE the authentic replica of Neil Young's southern man. Now what did Lynyrd Skynyrd have to say about that again?

Get out your etch-a-sketch and make it happen, Mitt! Jon Stewart needs some fresh material.

If Mutt Robme is so gung-ho about "bearing arms" he can join the neighborhood watch. He should have joined the Marines-- but the Marines take the FEW GOOD MEN. So Mutt wouldn't qualify there.

Does he shoot RATS and MICE? I use a trap. I'm going to have to bait my trap to try to catch an opossum-- for sure I won't invite Mutt.

Weerey One. You forget that when GWBush set up TARP, it was done without strings attached. It was under Obama that strings were attached and it was put under the supervision of Elizabeth Warren. That's why we're getting the money back. Bush wanted to give it all away, Obama wanted it payed back. Same with the loans to the Auto companies. We're getting that money back. Albeit slowly, but we are getting it back.

Lost our AAA credit rating

Spent more money than any other prez over the same time frame in 4 pathetic failing years.

Illegal Alien status on his family members.

"Mittens"...please show this President out the door. He had 4 years and did nothing but spend us into oblivion.

Hi folks ... my name is Mit Romney ... out of all the people I know ... you people know how explosive gun power is ... and you know that gun power is black ... that brings me to my discussion about Obama ..................

blah blah blah blah blah ....................

Dry up newscover, there is no room for racism in our Presidential elections!

Lost our AAA credit rating

Oh Brother - you all NEVER get tired of this BS;

In particular, Standard & Poor's added, it grew more pessimistic about U.S. debt because of the bitter political fight over raising the debt ceiling.

"The political brinksmanship of recent months," the company said, "highlights what we see as America's governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed."

The agency pointed to political reluctance to make cuts to entitlement programs such as Medicare and Social Security, and Republicans' refusal even to consider increasing revenues by, for instance, ending the Bush tax cuts.

http://abcnews.go.com/

To bad for you & your ilk - your little mittens are NOT clean! lol

In case you didn't realize it yet - one guy - you just got your ass handed to you!

September 2007: [Democratic-controlled] Congress raising the debt limit to - $9.815 trillion

July 2008: [Democratic-controlled] Congress raising the debt limit to - $10.615 trillion

October 2008: [Democratic-controlled] Congress raising the debt limit to - $11.315 trillion

December 2009: [Democratic-controlled] Congress raising the debt limit to - $12.394 trillion

February 2010: [Democratic-controlled] Congress raising the debt limit to - $14.294 trillion

What are we now?

ALMOST 16 TRILLION!?!?! Way to spend our tax money

Mr. Big $PENDER OBAMA - Epic Fail

The N R A is making crap up.

Keep your damn guns...but stop with the ROBOT calls (1-855-232-9534) and the stupid Wayne La Pierrre Whine about the United Nations coming to attack us. That is just crazy nonsense.

The N R A boo-hooing is pathetic.

They've LOST membership and they are looking for lobbying money.

There is not one FACTUAL statement in their fear-mongering blathering. If you believe their goofy claims, you've been snookered.

All you paranoid, gun-toting, jacked up NRA folks are convinced that someone is going to invade your home.

Exactly WHERE is this rash of home invaders in your neighborhood? Do you have empiracal evidence of rising, out of control crime?

Your Amendment rights are protected.

The hyperbole and ridiculous marxist, socialist, anti-Obama, Vigil-anti ravings are miserably un-patriotic.

We're OK with the Second Amendment.

We are NOT OK with the spewed N R A bull-poopy gutter mouth boogie man lies.

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Now for the rest of you folks who have a vendetta against our President..... we can't change your thinking, your prejudices, your TV news, but we can encourage you to carefully research (not through blogs) your accusations.

BTW: WAyne LaPierre is showing signs of "losing it".

SeekingSanity

American Socialist - that would mean he would actually have to HAVE plans and policies!

Technically he does have a policy, if by which you mean a plan to cut taxes for the rich and increase taxes for the poor. But he's too scared of the common man to release them openly.

I really am sick of hearing this guy's record in the private sector. He's said that in practically all of his speeches. We don't need another businessman in the White House. We had that during the previous administration.

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This might be old by the time this posts, but Just One, you do know there is a difference between raising the debt limit and authorizing the spending, right? Authorizing the spending comes first, paying come second.

Sort of like buying stuff with your credit card. Signing the charge slip is where you've spent the money. Paying the bill the next month is just a formality. If you get in an argument with your wife about which bill to pay, and you're late on one of the bills, the credit card companies ding your credit. It's the argument that got you in trouble, just like your example of raising the debt ceiling.

What's the alternative anyway? Not paying the bills?

Even though I am not aware of the NRA coming out and blatantly stating "Obama wants to take our guns"

This is from the Executive Vice President of the NRA:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/feb/10/nra-official-obama-wants-outlaw-guns-2nd-term/

Here is a quick exerpt for those that don't click links.

"All that first term, lip service to gun owners is just part of a massive Obama conspiracy to deceive voters and hide his true intentions to destroy the Second Amendment during his second term," he said.

And...

"We see the president's strategy crystal clear: Get re-elected and, with no more elections to worry about, get busy dismantling and destroying our firearms' freedom, erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights and excise it from the U.S. Constitution."

It's crap like this that turns me off from the NRA. They are just fear mongering for increased gun sales. Guess what? It worked. Most of the top gun manufacturers have stopped taking new orders due to the chicken little reaction to the NRA propaganda.

This is the same crap they pulled before Obama got elected. Except this time, they claim his first term of actually expanding gun rights was just to lull people into thinking he wasn't going to take their guns away in his second term if re elected.

You can't make this crap up.

HA HA so funny ...picking at "little things" like the 2nd Amendment to distract folks from Obama's failed policies and out of control spending of our children's future. The 2nd Amendment will stand on it's own. Obama will not.

the NRA is just another shill for the GOP/TP .. Mitt opposed expanded gun rights when he was Gov.. Obama passed legislation expanding gun rights as prez .. but somehow the NRA missed that and will support Mitt the guy against expanded gun rights .. nothing new here when has the NRA ever supported a dem

To all you Libs, trying to belittle Romney or the NRA, does not change Obama's record = Obama a complete Failure. Obama, One and Done!

SmBusOwnerinNY

What's the alternative anyway? Not paying the bills?

The 'alternative' is to not waste taxpayer dollars on "Ca$h for Clunker$", give away $$ to corporations and SOLYNDRA (bet you thought we'd forget that one) as well as other total failures of this administration. Obama has spent us to a point that is unacceptable to any responsible tax payer. He had his chance to prove that the United States could spend it's way out of debt and he was plain wrong! "Mittens" is gonna have a field day with this guy.

First, those don't have anything to do with the debt ceiling. Debt ceiling pays for money already spent. Almost not paying the bills is what got us the downgrade.

Cash for clunkers saved a lot of people money, got POS bad gas milage cars off the road (improving pollution and improving fuel efficiency), and helped the US auto industry which at the time was tanking, and now--lo and behold--is doing well now! Failed policy my arse. His policies saved us from what would have been much worse if McCain or any of your fiscal "conservatives" were at the helm. Remember the lessons of Herbert Hoover. Crash of 1929 was not responded to until FDR got in office in 1933. I'm thankful Bush's people and then Obama knew to attack the problem aggressively. All of those entitlements and unemployment were going to get paid somehow, I'm jsut glad we're slowly coming out if it. Again, failure my arse.

Ready to name a failure of any consequence?

To all you Libs, trying to belittle Romney or the NRA

Telling the truth isn't belittling the NRA. The Executive Vice President of the NRA's speech is out there for you to listen to. It is pure fear mongering.

The rest of your reply is off topic and an attempt to not face the truth of what the NRA is pulling.

I am a registered gun owner, but that doesn't mean I have to tolerate the NRA's attempts to scare people into buying up every gun in sight.

The N.R.A. is an obvious and important constituency both to and for the G.O.P. What with their circular firing squads, shooting themselves in the foot and/or face, going off half-cocked and generally shooting off at the mouth, that's a lot of ammo my friends. And Remington are people, too.

So thanks G.O.P., and don't forget your candidate needs Jeff Foxworthy to tell him which end the bullets come out.

He should really talk to Cheney's lawyer. He KNOWS!

SmBusOwnerinNY

Cash for clunkers saved a lot of people money..

Ca$h for Clunker$...

...saddled up low income folks with the SAME debt they ended up with under Carter's 'homes for everybody' resulting in the housing bust.

...increased the cost of used vehicles available to the low income buyer.

...contributed to the massive historical debt of this administration.

...was only ONE of the many programs that responsible taxpayer money was wasted on.

I guess we define failure differently. There was the "cash" part of the cash for clunkers--so actually everyone who traded in got a bunch of money to put down on that new car, making it more affordable. After the finanacial meltdown, lending rules tightened up a lot, so total deadbeats aren't getting aloan no matter what, and people do still need to have some responsibility. You do believe in that don't you?

If you think Carter (1977-1981) was the source of the 2007(!) housing meltdown, you've been drinking the Fox koolaid. Sort of like the NRA saying Obama is just waiting to be reelected to "end the second amendment" and take away everybody's gun rights. Yeah.....r i g h t.

Justoneguy, CFC did not saddle low income buyers with more debt. At the time you had to have a stellar credit rating and ample income to get a car loan. It did prime the pump, got the auto industry rolling and there has been no looking back. The clunkers were sold for scrap, the program was so successful it was stopped early, it was a bright idea that worked. It had immediate, lasting results.

The NRA is nothing but a bunch of money grubbers that have outlived their usefullness. This organization is nothing less than MURDER INC.

I have hunted for 50 years and have owned guns since then, they do not represent hunters they represent extreamists and the money they steal from the ignorant

Romney get stupider every time he opens his mouth. Obama, against the wishes of his supporters, signed the bill allowing hand guns in federal parks. A president out to ban guns would have vetoed that bill yet these idiots keep calling saying he's out to ban guns. The lies from the teabaggers will never cease.

@ Sheila-846240

Good reasonable comment but I do believe you're wasting time on justoneguy. He's so far right he has to have something to lean on to stay on his feet and lies like a teabagger.

The NRA yesterday and today

The NRA was founded to protect the rights of gun owners. Initially their support came mostly from farmers and ranchers that were aligned with the Republican Party thanks to the Republican support of farm and land subsidies.

The NRA worked as lobbyists to support pro-gun legislation and fight anti-gun legislation. As the organization grew both in membership and power it began to provide support to pro-gun legislators to help ensure a pro-gun majority in Congress.

So far so good – it was all about the rights of gun owners and the protection of the 2^nd amendment.

But at some point the NRA morphed into a political operative of the Republican Party working to defeat Democrats even ones that were supporters of the NRA and/or their goals. This was clearly evident in 2010 when they withdrew support for current Governor Ted Strickland (D-OH) who had the NRA’s highest rating (A+) and threw their support behind John Kasich with a NRA rating of “B”. That was a pure political move that had nothing to do with the 2^nd amendment or gun rights.

The NRA leader, Wayne LaPierre, said that the NRA is prepared to spend $40 million to defeat President Obama. This is not about policy it is about politics. The only gun legislation this President has signed or even considered, in over 3 years, was to expand gun rights by allowing concealed carry in National parks.

While the NRA warns of what a second term President Obama (not restrained by another election) will do to take your guns away, to restrict you 2nd amendment rights and/or place more restrictions on gun/ammo purchase/use this is pure fear mongering. The President cannot make law and Executive orders are limited in their impact on existing law and the constitution. Thus any real change would have to come from the Congress that by recent surveys has little interest in gun legislation. On top of that, according to the NRA’s own records, the number of Democrats that the NRA gives a high rating to and supports has quadrupled in recent years.

Does any believe that in a republican controlled House and anti-gun bill would pass? Does anyone believe that in the Senate there would be 60 votes for anti-gun legislation?

justoneguy .. it never hurts to expand our minds .. think for ourselves .. make informed decisions ... getting an education .. or anything else that improves us.. believeing Obama is resposible for all the ills in the world doesnt seem like a wholesome way to go thru life ..never looking at the facts presented by both sides... dooms us to an existence where we will always ..live in fear ..be lied to ..cheated ..manipulated .. enslaved..

uaw779887 .. as a gun owner that doesnt hunt any more I have never seen a bill introduced in congress that would take my guns away .. there are those that want to spread the lies that all dems want abortions eliminate the 2nd amendment .. it makes you tired and sad knowing there are those out there that live and feed on hatred

justoneguy

September 2007: [Democratic-controlled] Congress raising the debt limit to - $9.815 trillion

July 2008: [Democratic-controlled] Congress raising the debt limit to - $10.615 trillion

October 2008: [Democratic-controlled] Congress raising the debt limit to - $11.315 trillion

December 2009: [Democratic-controlled] Congress raising the debt limit to - $12.394 trillion

February 2010: [Democratic-controlled] Congress raising the debt limit to - $14.294 trillion

So justoneguy, now obviously they don't raise the debt limit unless it's getting close to being exceeded so basically you admit that the federal deficit was over $11 trillion under Bush. Funny thing about the talking points from the right is that Bush never had that kind of deficit. You want to so Obama did it all but refuse to admit that a very large portion of the federal budget today is interest on the debt that G W Bush ran up.

Now federal budgets go from October 1 to October 1 of the next year so the 2009 budget was influenced by the TARP bill signed by Bush before leaving office but notice the deficit from 2002 through 2009 which were largely the responsibility of Bush administration. Starts out at $5.5 trillion and ends up as $11.9 trillion. Granted that almost a trillion of it was Obama's stimulus plan to jump start the economy but Bush still doubled the deficit in his 8 years as president and Obama has to pay the interest on that borrowed money. The difference between the deficit by Bush and the one by Obama is obvious. Bush wasted money on a needless Iraq war where Obama is trying to get the economy back on track without I may add any assistance from the GOP in congress.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm

Dennis, Columbus, OH:

Nailed it! Great analysis, again. Thanks for the insight.

justoneguy

Lost our AAA credit rating

Spent more money than any other prez over the same time frame in 4 pathetic failing years.

Just One, you do realize that Obama didn't really increase the deficit, right??? IT was the recession. The recession drained hundreds of billions of dollars from the Treasury and increased spending on things like unemployment insurance and food stamps. I thought you "pro-business" Republicans knew basic economics. Obama has actually decreased the deficit, down $200-300 billion from 2009. And the reason we lost the credit rating was because there was no compromise between the two parties. The GOP refused to accept any tax increases (which is why they refused to agree to Obama's $4 trillion deficit plan); we couldn't get a deal; S&P downgraded. Seems to me that it's the Tea Party's fault for our downgrade...

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

There goes Mitt,again, shooting his mouth off. Boy that would make some news.

Why?

"Obama's gonna take our guns. Obama's gonna make it illegal to sell guns." And et cetera ad nauseum.

The first time I heard this I thought it was a joke, but quickly found out there was no humor in the fact people were hoarding guns and ammunition in fear and sincere belief that the President was actually going to "take our guns."

You wonder where this crap comes from. Back before the mid-term elections, NRA VP Piere LaPew was making ROBO calls against all Democrats. It's about politics and raising money ... it has nothing to do with guns. The man should be arrested and put in jail ... he's the criminal.

Ruken -- My thoughts as well. "Broad attack?" Try complete chicken crap. No one can name one thing the president has done to restrict gun rights--in fact gun rights have increased, for example right to carry in national parks.

Who knows where the Right-wing conspiracy theories start from, whether per George-404282 "NRA VP Piere LaPew was making ROBO calls against all Democrats" or chain E-mails. It's complete crazy talk about how the president hasn't taken their guns...yet...but he will if he gets a second term. The Rule of Reason left the GOP/TP Tent a long time ago.

And now we segue into the value of all mothers, because this naturally goes hand-in-hand with skyrocketing death from gun violence and the need for 30+ rounds that was used that tragic day when Gabby Giffords was shot. Yes, a shout out to all moms, and may your kids survive the violence!

Dennis, Columbus, Ohio -- Good post as always!

The NRA is just another link in the web of insidious corporatism, and corporatism is one aspect of fascism. The NRA is of course using the GOPee Wee Herman ploy of "I know you are, but what am I" fear mongering for cover. Unfortunately this far-Right "web" is not conspiracy theory. We see ALEC being used as a tool by Teapublicans and corporations to advance their interests, including the NRA and use of ALEC to spread pro-gun violence laws like "Stand Your Ground" or more accurately "Kill At Will" law.

The overall insidiousness is the same old God, Gays & Guns agenda per Feisty's opening post. The rampant legislation for God, best illustrated with all the anti-abortion attacks are still going full speed thanks to ALEC, though now becoming public as the War on Women, can it be stopped?! The Gay effort is not doing so well. And of course the Gun effort is finally back in public debate due to the Trayvon martin case.

But the most insidious of all is Big Business, and We the Corporations of America, whether oil, health insurance, Wall Street, or the gun industry, the GOP/TP are merely their puppets through complicity or ignorance, and electing a plutocrat like Romney would be a horrible mistake.

How in the world can Romney lecture Obama about our personal freedoms?

If the rightwingnuts have their way, religion will trump any personal freedoms we have. They've made it clear there is no room for diversity: we must ALL live by their religious doctrine (even though Republicans are far from Christ-like). Even Mormons were forced (by their own rightwingnut party members) to defend Mormonism as a form of Christianity.

The NRA doesn't truly give a rats-azz about getting Obama out of office. They SAY they do. They run fear and hate ads against him. But the "fear" of Obama has driven gun sales to ridiculous numbers and THAT's what the ads are for. A Romney election could put a damper on sales... and as we know, it's only business... nothing personal.

As Governor of Massachusetts he supported the banning of assault weapons and supported the requirement for background checks – alllaws the NRA was against. He claimed he owned a gun when he did not.

Romney is the worst sort of chameleon-politician. He'll say anything to get elected. What's even more amusing is how much of a liar he is and just how stupid the voters who support him are. :)

Talk about silly statements-

When, during the speech, Romney said

"If we are going to safeguard our Second Amendment, it is time to elect a president who will defend the rights President Obama ignores or minimizes. I will."

I suppose that was AVOIDIng mentioning the Second Amendment.

You guys really, truly, do not care a whit about credibility.

Republicans are scared of a War on Guns that doesn't exist. Obama has done almost nothing to scale back gun laws and in fact they have proliferated over the last three years under Obama.

Thats a really good point Joe... And if I may add... How many presidents have we had that were not rich? I am guessing damn few.

oh, no joe - you're here spouting your little nonsense as usual. Credibility is not your strong suit so you probably would be better avoid it altogether!

They have proliferated in states where he has no control. The few federal laws that have passed are because of what happened the last time they went after guns. There is zero doubt, ZERO, that if they had their way the confiscation would start tomorrow.

Now that the gun issue is moot, they are going after bullets.

Mr. Frost, no one's wealth earned honestly should be held against him. People like Mitt Romney however, was born into a family of wealth and advantage. Ever wonder if he had to survive on Ramen Noodles?

On the other hand, one can't say that Obama was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. An African father who deserted his family and a mother who by all accounts should have moved to Haight-Asbury instead of Hawaii. fFortunately for Barrack he had a decent grandmother. And btw, Obama's wealth came from two best selling books he actually wrote himself. Shock!

Gosh, I sure would like to begin hearing from Mr. Romney what his vision and agenda and plan for his presidency would be.

For the past two years we have instead heard constant negative attacks against his primary opponents, and virulent attacks against Mr. Obama.

Questions:

Mr. Romney, do you have an identifiable vision for America? Or, should we just prepare ourselves for seven more months of you using Mr. Obama's name in every other sentence you utter?

Mr. Romney, are you aware that condemning the policies of another person is not the same thing as having your own policies?

Mr. Romney, do you believe in anything, or do you just plan to attack?

Although I am not likely to vote for you, you just might become our president. So I actually hope you believe in something, but there appears to be little evidence of that so far ...and what evidence you offer of your beliefs is always contradicted by something you once said you believed in at another time.

Mr. Romney, who are you?

No, really, ...we want to know. Who are you?

Bruce: Romney earned every dime he has. The money his father left him was given away. Do the research about the Romneys early days of marriage when they were both students. You might be surprised. Start with a search for an interview with Anne Romney in 1994 with a Boston newspaper.

no jo no bo talking about credibility. lol. what a joke.

Go USA - sorry - nope! He did not give his father's money away and the Romney's got support from Mommy and Daddy while they were both students. Next!

And Go - any money Romney DID make he made on the backs of the people whose jobs he sent overseas!

"Republicans are scared of a War on Guns that doesn't exist."

Republicans are scared of everything --- real or imagined and everyone who isn't exactly like them. They're scared President Obama will take their guns away even though he hasn't proposes a single law concerning guns. They're afraid of the implementation of Sharia law even though nobody in government has ever suggested it. They're afraid of blacks, Hispanics, gays, lesbians, union workers, teachers, firemen, policemen, auto workers, Planned Parenthood, NPR, PBS, atheist, main stream Christians, Mormons, Muslims -- you mane it -- they're afraid of it. The ONLY thing republicans have to sell is FEAR, FEAR, FEAR and more FEAR.

They have proliferated in states where he has no control. The few federal laws that have passed are because of what happened the last time they went after guns.

The point is he has made no effort to scale back gun laws in any meaningful way despite the fact that America is armed to the teeth with gun-toting rednecks. Seriously Phil, you'd have to go to Iran or Afghanistan to find a country with more arms. I doubt you would stop proliferating arms in the US even if people owned APV's and bazookas.... and that's exactly where we are headed. Indeed, having a legal right to shoot someone for walking on your lawn or pool-hopping is very reminiscent of Afghanistan.

SeekingSanity

Go USA - sorry - nope! He did not give his father's money away and the Romney's got support from Mommy and Daddy while they were both students. Next

From the NY Times in an article by Michael Barbaro dated January 20, 2012:

He continued: “And as an institute of public management, it helps young people learn about government and about serving in public service. And that’s where his inheritance ended up.”

Even so, Mr. Romney benefited from his father’s wealth in another way: he relied on George Romney for a loan that he used to buy his first home, in Belmont, Mass., for $42,000.

So Romney did, in fact, give his inheritance away. His father gave him a loan, presumably with the expectation it would be paid back, for his first home. So Romney made his millions upon millions with his brain and possibly some good fortune. He did not write a couple of crappy autobiographies; the bulk of which were mostly bought by a couple of rich people guiding him in politics and donated to libraries.

Envy will consume you.

Does NOT say "He Gave It Away", he used it to Good Advantage and; "Loan"..?? "Terms"...?? 0%..?

It is hard to disagree with the first three individuals. However, if you do not agree with the first three individuals then you probably agree with the last two individuals. It is never too late to see the light and I am glad Mitt Romney has.

"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth keystone... the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference. When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour."

-George Washington

“By calling attention to a well-regulated militia for the security of the Nation, and the right of each citizen to keep and bear arms, our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy. Although it is extremely unlikely that the fear of governmental tyranny, which gave rise to the 2nd amendment, will ever be a major danger to our Nation, the amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic military-civilian relationship, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason I believe the 2nd Amendment will always be important.”

-John F Kennedy

"Before Adolf Hitler came to power, there was a black market in firearms, but the German people had been so conditioned to be law abiding that they would never consider buying an unregistered gun. The German people really believed that only hoodlums own guns. What fools we were. It truly frightens me to see how the government, media and some police groups in America are pushing for the same mindset."

-Theodore Haas, Dachau Survivor.

“Armas para que?" ("Guns for what?")

-Fidel Castro

“The United States should get rid of its militias.”

-Joseph Stalin

Probably not, but he does have a FIERCE look in that photo. Maybe that's enough to convince an audience of NRA intellects that he means business!

At least he got his costuming right for the speech - blue jeans and a plaid flannel shirt might've come across as pandering to this crowd...

He knows it's true that the President has not done anything to diminish gun rights...

.but if he admitted it, it would defeat even addressing the NRA.

FrankH - I thought that look meant he had indigestion!

There is no Democrat Party. It's the Democratic Party, and the members are called Democrats. And your post is pure nonsense that offers no support to your nutty rantings. The Democratic Party is a moderate party and the Republican Party is extreme. We have no serious liberal party. I wish we did.

Yeah okay larry whatever you say. Your post is assinine. Where do you come up with this crap? Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh...

Gotta love Republicans that keep forgetting how we got here today.

Yes! It was the policies of "starving the beast" starting way back with Reagan's "trickle down" economics.

Only a Republican would cut taxes and go to war twice shouting all the way that "deficits don't matter".

Republicans pushed the economy right toward depression and in less than 1 year Obama is supposed to have it all fixed. Heck, they still won't approve increasing revenues with their eyes squarely on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

Only a Republican seeing so many out of work would cut food stamps while giving taxes cuts to millionaires.

Obama made the 4 trillion dollar deal that Boehner walked away from causing the Tea Party downgrade.

There are lots of women with 5 children that raise them and work!

Great post Eric! People need to understand that in the REAL world there are thousands of women that work AND raise 5+ children...and do it effectively! These GOP morons need to get their heads out of their a$$!

No we got here because demcorats conned teh voters into giving them congress. It took four years of their incompetence before voters wised up.

Democrats inherited 4.6% unemployment and a booming economy, it took them less than two years to destroy it with their socialist "home ownership is a right" mentality. The economy only began to recover when republicans took back the house and blocked all that silliness.

Just a reminder after almost four years unemployment is still higher than when he took office. Obama told a 4 trillion lie then changed the deal when Boehner agreed, proving democrats don't want a deal.

Do you think all those who have five children and have to work would rather stay home if they could? It is democrats disaserous economic policies that are keeping wages down.

Valhalla Phil - oh you are so wrong. The GOP got the House because they did what they did best - they lied. They talked about Jobs, Jobs, Jobs - got into office and forgot all about Jobs. Their idea was to attack our very good President and work to defeat our country. Your stupidity is only overshadowed by your arrogance!

Phil,

Where are you getting you information, from Rush's colonoscopy report?

Did you miss all 8 years of the Retard? When he took office we had a surplus of funds and peace.

9/11 was bad, but blowing all of our money on a war with a country that had nothing to do with it while lowering the tax rate for wealthy Americans (well, job creators, if you count all of the jobs they moved overseas to save money and increase profit) was the worst possible action. Remember his deer-in-the-headlights look when they told him? You know what was going through his mind for those 45 seconds of blankness? First he was trying to figure out how the Little Engine that Could actually made it over the hill. Then he started scheming how he could be the next war-time president just like daddy.

WMD Mission accomplished. I would still be embarrassed like you if I supported that moron.

Thats in his next 4 year agenda.

larry-2037452

Democrats have become an anti-American, pro-enemy, anti-normal, pro-weird group of hard-core leftist socialists. This is who they are. They don’t even try to hide it anymore. The modern Democrat Party is not your father’s Democrat Party. Unless your father was Karl Marx.

Yeah, sure. Whatever you say, larry. By the way, tell me the last time the Democrats emulated the policies of Karl Marx??? Do you even know what he supported???

Oh, so trying to avoid rushing into pointless wars, protesting the injustice of wasting thousands of lives and billions of dollars in foreign military adventures, and trying to act moderately to placate both parties is anti-American and weird?? I can tell by your choice of grammar that you are wrong. If saying that tax cuts for the wealthy don't work or that we wasted billions in a stupid war against Iraq is anti-American, then go ahead and call me one. But I know in my heart that that is false. Stop lying and try offering rational arguments.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

Larry, I think you have actually labeled the GOP with your diatribe. The GOP are the ones who are Anti-America.. Just follow me.. The GOP since Reagan have sought to snuff out the middle class while sending jobs overseas. The GOP have waged wars since the Reagan era, which has increased our debts, decreased our standing in the world. The GOPs actions have cost Trillions while decades have passed and they have ignored the homeland. Yet, when the Dems talk about taking care of America first, they are labeled as soft of terror and war. Soft on everything. The GOP are the ones who are soft. They have no backbone. Conservative men could not have and would not have set out to start this nation in the face of the brutal regime in England at that time. America was founded by Liberal men who knew that ruling a nation via religion was a dangerous concoction.

The ONLY true Americans are the Dems and Independents and people who don't kowtow to Israel or the Pope. We need real ideas to solve our problems. Not gun rights. THe GOP want war with Iran and with that brings war with China and Russia. Add that up GOP, can we afford those costs, plus the double or tripling of gas prices shortly after Iran gets invaded? Makes sense..

BigJeff - Rush's colonoscopy? Ewwwww Bad visual!

Larry,shouldn't you be out with Moe and Curly promoting your movie?

"Democrats inherited 4.6% unemployment and a booming economy, it took them less than two years to destroy"

Another uninformed comment from an uninformed Fox cultist. The Bush depression started in 2005 -- long before the democrats took over Congress.

Larry,

Damn right well it's not your fathers Democratic Party that one was far more liberal and weren't afraid to stand up for labor, the poor, Catholics, Jews, Women, Civil Rights, leading the nation throughWW II. Along the way they used the Federal checkbook to make higher education available, built highways and airports, passed social security, the GI bill, made mortgages affordable for the average guy. Maybe we shouldn't forget cleaning up the GOPs Depression fighting McCarthyism and hundreds of other items that built our military and industrial might.

Todays democrats resemble moderate Democrats or Progressive Republicans like George Romney in the 60s and 70s. You must have missed that whole beat generation, ban the bomb, anti-war, Earthday, Hands Across America Democratic Party. The NRA is about as relevant as Lava Lampa, Disco and Leisure Suits. Gun Control is so far down the Progressive Movements list as to be irrelevant. When we go to our secret meetings and sing the Internationale and practice our Esperanto (well some are practicing Klingon) no one ever mentions handguns or black helicopters or anything.

We are still fighting the good fight for equal opportunity and equal treatment under the law. We also seek to place women on the same footing as men, feed the poor,eliminate poverty and disease, fight for separation of Church and State, protect the environment, rebuild Americas image abroad, re-establish the middle class, rebuild our education system and move forward not backward. Other than that you had it pretty much right.

jkh

Jim: My hat is off to you! You have great way with words..May they remember..??

May we resurrect the old Democratic Party. I'd do it if I could; anyone with me???

Etch-a-sketch Romney is still flip flopping away. Pretending you can't google his record.

Good one, IR. Now that would have been worth watching the whole speech--an NRA member giving Mitt a "pop" quiz just to test his gun creds.

Only problem is Jody where would they find an NRA member to give him the test. Most of the members of the "new" NRA don't know anything more about guns than old Mitt. They haven't been much but a PAC since old Charlton took them over and made his fancy speech. They've had a Moses complex ever since.

I agree, IR. As a woman whose husband goes out to try to bring home venison and bear every season ... who has helped to butcher the carcasses so that we can eat the deer (since he's never shot a bear), I think Romney is a joke. I probably shoot better than he does (and I shoot pretty darn well). We are not an NRA family. We are not a Republican family. We also are not a Democratic family. We are an Independent family. My husband leans a bit more conservative and I lean a bit more liberal ... but we are both moderates and neither one of us can vote for Romney in good conscience.

Are you sure you're not my husband, IR? He's an Independent Redneck born and raised in the Piedmont area of VA who drives a BIG truck for a job and is PROUD of that red neck he has.

Cat if the RH-ex-St ever gives up on me I'll look you up. You are a girl after my own heart. Like your husband I earned every shade of that red on my neck and I'm damned proud of it. Folks don't understand that Independents like us don't appreciate a fellow peeing in our ear and telling us it's raining which Mr Romney seems prone to do. You and your husband get in that big old truck and come on up to the Dew Drop Inn and I'll buy you'll a cold one and we'll set a spell

IR Va. ,

I have been a Democrat since the late 80s when I could no longer bear listening to Reagan shill for Wall Street and have James Watt watching over our birthright. I am all over the place on guns I have been to Alaska twice and always carried when walking around the woods because of bears but I don't enjoy hunting. I like to take pictures and video and I don't like venison at all I like rabbit but won't shoot one, I don't like fish or fishing love horse racing but find auto racing one step above wrestling. I enjoy target shooting but would love to see handguns way harder to get. I live outside Philly and do a lot of volunteer work in the city with kids and it was way harder for me to get a BB gun when I was thirteen or fourteen than it is for these kids to get their hands on a Sig a Glock or a Ruger.

All that being said I promise you my 92 year old mother would look more believable carrying a gun than Mitt ever will. By the way there is no threat to the second amendment. Continually fighting an issue that hasn't been an issue since about 1990 is a waste of energy.

jkh

when you go out in the woods with Dick Cheney,

A hunting we will go... A hunting we will go... Hi HO the Merry-O... the Dick will blow your face off!

I'm not sure the shooting of that lawyer was thoroughly investigated at the time, since it was Dick!

The owner of the property (big ranch) is the one who made the announcement of the shooting.

The police report was on line for a minute and said something like 'shooting accident', blah, blah....

Betcha Dick paid mega bucks all around!

Detroit-Storm - and that was on of Dick's friends!!! Just imagine what he'd do if he didn't like you!

Got news for you, you don't hunt ducks in the woods.

That reminds me of the Iowa duck hunter whose dog accidentally shot him in the rearend last fall. The guy put the gun down on his boat, the dog stepped on the trigger and shot him in the rear then when the guy grabbed the gun, the he shot himself in the leg. It could have been serious but fortunately just funny.

JH-479998, bet you Mitt Romney doesn't know that!!

Just imagine what he'd do if he didn't like you!

Water boarding anyone? Shock and Awe?

Water boarding anyone? Shock and Awe?

Hey... how about we hook up a battery to his genitals...

What's good for the goose & all...

Consider it a 'stress test' for the new ♥ of his!

Jody,

For a moment I thought you where going to say the hunter shot the dog.

If the dog is OK, I am good. I can care less how many times the hunter shoots himself.

Walk down the street Deeeetroit you may not come back alive. I know you have to read the freep at least. Pop quiz....how many people killed in Detroit in the last 2 weeks. OhMy! And by the way I field strip and clean all 8 of my personal weapons once a month and after every pin shoot.

jolly-only once a month?? I strip and clean my "weapons" every time I shower! ( *) (* ) ;-)

There you go again Jolly, deflecting. No one said anything about Detroit. But since you brought it up, where in the city do YOU live? I asked you this before, and you never answered.

Seriously. It's the fear of a black president that has spurned on an increase in gun sales. Of course, the gun lobby is going to embrace it.

Toasty - he's half white. Gun sales haven't increased because our President but because of the progressive agenda.

I actually thought that President Obama's election would be good for race relations but it has turned out to be the opposite. The man has failed at just about everything.

[It's the fear of a black president that has spurned on an increase in gun sales.]

Obama's secret way of stimulating the economy... ;)

[Gun sales haven't increased because our President but because of the progressive agenda.]

Ohhh....beware the progressive agenda...equality for everyone...

Be afraid, JH...be very afraid...

That's the thing, JH, Obama isn't a progressive. He's a moderate centrist. That means that there's something else scaring these people, and the only possible thing I can imagine that is, is his skin color. He represents a changing world where white skin no longer grants one a position of privilege, and that changing world frightens them.

Mickey

The progressive agend is the reason for the shellacking in 2010. And it will be the reason for the shellacking in 2012.

The progressive agend= equality only if you agree with me.

Be afraid. Mickey... your side is heading for a fall. Shouldn't have leaned so far forward.

JH - the shellacking in 2012 is going to be totally because of the audacity of the GOP. They think they can lie and pit a party against women and we'll just blindly vote for them. They think they can belittle women and minorities and we'll just go -oh thank you - and vote for them. They think we'll forget their lies about jobs and just vote for them. No, the shellacking of the GOP in 2012 should be no surprise to anyone - but perhaps the GOP - who continue to lean so far backward (like by about 100 years) they can't seem to catch up!

Yea, a moderate centrist that loads the NLRB with pro union shills, that steals GM away from it's owners and gives a ton to the unions and keeps the bulk for government, that sues Boeing for opening a plant in a right to work state, that tries to dictate outcomes from the supreme court.

To each according to his needs, from each according to his ability, now where have I heard that before!

He's a radical progressive, get over it.

The only thing you can imaging is his skin color because you are a racist. If you think we'd treat Al Gore any differently, you are lying to yourself.

Those who ignore 2010 are doomed to repeat it.

So, JH,

You are saying that we liberals think too far foreword?

Thank you.

Phil: there is nothing wrong with progress. Its how this country became so great. Do you know what the opposite of progress is ?

A Republican CONgress...... that'll try to stop progress all the time.

We have not observed anything yet, an Obama re-election with a Democratic congress will damage this country beyond repair. I will give you Mr. Obama re-elected as long as Ms Pelosi and Mr. Reid are Minority leaders.

jollyoldsoul1 - why - so absolutely nothing could get done for the next 4 years because the GOP would see to it?

Its funny when you realize that the NRA Crowd would seem to be tailor made for Romney, and they're still not happy with him. You can't win an election by hating your opponent.

JH,

Are you drying out the mushrooms first they give you a lot more bang for your buck. When Adlai Stevenson ran no big gun spike when Hubert Humphrey ran no fire sale, McGovern Ah no sale! Mondale Nope , Mike Dukakis not even a little bump even the most Progressive Threat Of All AL Gore didn't empty the shelves. All of these were far more Progressive than Obama with plans that make Obamas look like Ludwig Von Mises. Guess what the difference is? THEY ARE WHITE AND OBAMA IS BLACK don't be a moron.

jkh

Yea, a moderate centrist that loads the NLRB with pro union shills, that steals GM away from it's owners and gives a ton to the unions and keeps the bulk for government,

If only that part about GM was true. GM was given aid fair and square and is now one of the best automakers in the world. Conservatives stacked the Supreme Court with their fellow ideologues, and I don't see you crying about that. Face it; you're all for stuffing courts and regulatory boards unless your opponent does it.

And tell me; would any private financial equity business invest in GM after the financial collapse drained all their capital??? And even if they had some cash, I highly doubt they'd risk it on the sinking automakers.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

R Bell, it's been a dead issue for years but then so is Russia and the Red Scare but that doesn't stop the conservatives from believing it.

R Bell, I'm not sure Romney was pandering to the IRA itself - you're right, they're going to vote for him anyway - as much as he was getting the photo op of speaking to the NRA to include on his new-found "severely conservative" resume. If he wants to ride that train all the way to November, he's got to make all the expected stops along the way.

Romoney's handlers didn't tell him that the gun issue is dead.

If you're running as a Republican, you gotta stop by the NRA.

Just as if you're running as a Democrat, you have to address the NAACP.

You know they'll vote for you anyway, but you really don't want to snub a group that might just help you win.

I have a question for a few of you. Here in the Detroit area there are and have been groups of Black people outside the US post offices protesting MR. Obama. On Wed. I drove by the post office on Merriman in Livonia near the UAW union local and they were lifting pictures of Mr. Obama with toothbrush style mustache. Whats up with that?

jolly, this is an article about the NRA and Romney.

I fail to see what some African Americans outside a post office have to do with it.

Or are you implying that it is absurd that not all blacks are for Obama and it's somehow damning? Hell, you even squeezed in a shout out about Unions.

Agenda much?

[Mitt Romney has been a life-long member of the NRA since 2006...]

LOL...Romney is such a fake...

You know, Jodi, there was a time when Mitt favored gun control. When he was our governor, he advocated a ban on assault rifles, just to name one. I'm sure you figured out that our ex-governor is an opportunist, who is all things to all right-wing special interest groups. This jerk feels entitled to be president and woe be it to any one who tries to block his path. He's an empty suit with no core convictions. Here in Massachusetts we despise him.

R Bell, that doesn't surprise me in the least. I think Mitt Romney has set a new standard for Flip Flops; with a little more effort Mitt can qualify in gymnastics at the London Summer Olympics.

R Bell, it's nice to hear someone from MA say that. I think Mitt's about the emptiest suit to come along in years. I really do not see how any voter could trust him.

Jody, you don't know the half of it. I had occasion to meet with Mitt on correction department budget issues. The guy was a total moderate. You know at the time he was pro choice? He even donated to planned parenthood. He supported civil unions and said the Bush tax cuts went to far. This is all documented. Mr. Moderate has now turned into a rabid right-winger. This man will do or say anything to achieve his objective to be president. Conservatives beware of this phony. He's not what you think.

If (and it's a very big IF) Romoney becomes President, I wonder how his flip-flops, gaffes and faux pas will affect our stature in the world. I wonder if Mitty has even thought that through?

Suzq - no, someone else thinks for him. And, whoever it is doesn't do a very good job!

You buy a lifetime membership and your a life time member. SuzQ he is a global businessman he has met and dealt with global leaders.

jollyoldsoul1 - he has NOT met with global leaders. He has met with businessmen in various countries but not the leadership of those countries.

Ummmmm spent much time outside the US. In a lot of countries the Governments are the fertile soil of business. Our Gov met with German and French Ministers and business people a few weeks back. Please read newspapers it will help.

German and French Ministers?

Wake us up after he has spoken to non buddy buddy allies. Ones that could care less if he saved a western business to part it out.

Until he has been in a hostile environment with a nation with tense relations with the U.S., his vacationing encounters don't mean squat. A business meeting is nothing like trying to ease tensions with a possible combative country.

That's like comparing flashlights and pears.

COme on we both know No president meets with those kinds of leaders until the lower level diplomats have worked out details and have neutralized the situation.

With what has been released on Romney on gun control as Gov of MA. The NRA has more to fear from him than Obama. Either way this is a non-issue. Gutless politicians can't even ban 30 round clips for assault rifles.

We already have massive arms control legislation. The real constitutional question is balancing the rights of the 2nd amendment and the common good. If you don't believe this then tell me where I can get my personal M1-A1 or Apache.

IMAO, The NRA should go back to its roots and protect the gun rights of the hunters. No one with half a brain hunts anything with a pistol. Its illegal to do it in my state to begin with. Hand guns are for killing people and nothing else. If you can't protect your home and property with a bolt action high powered rifle or a 12 gauge pump with double aught buckshot then too bad for you.

Amy, cheers for that.

Sadly, it really has nothing to do with gun rights, the NRA is merely pushing the manufacture of guns and more guns for profit by stirring fear and using the 2nd Amendment as a rallying cry.

Jody, money really is at the root of all evil.

You'd think there'd be an organization of victims of gun violence that would be at least as powerful as the NRA, but I guess there's no profit in that.

Im sure there would be if the majority of the victims were not in prison.

JOLLYOLDSOUL1 - that just makes no sense. Many of the victims of gun violence are dead. Very few are in prison.

Not here in Detroit, they get shot a lot also. And they also claim to be victims. You really DO need to visit Detroit sometime. Do yourself a favor and read a real big city newspaper for a week. You will then wonder why this Trayvon Martin case is making so much noise. As I stated above we had a teen mother assaulted in broad daylight and killed in the street while walking her child. One of 6 people in 10 days.

The NRA likes to paint itself as the victim, instead of the creator of victims by enabling whack jobs, irate husbands and despondent lovers to more easily kill innocent people. And there's Mitt, pandering to the purveyors of violence

I just blew beer out my nose. Only the looniest among us will attempt to hold an organization responsible for not only the end of an individual's situation but also the events leading up to the end.

Too funny.

BTW......which arms manufacturing center does the NRA own?

The NRA lobbies for gun manufacturers under cover of "protecting the 2nd amendment." Who the hell needs armour piercing ammunition?

For that, we are thankful, but it shows a lack of balls in a president who deeply believes we should rid guns. Obama has been Bushesque, and we didn't like Bush very much.

Oh Road - if he had increased gun controls you'd hate him for that. Just be honest - you hate him.

RW, you clearly didn't even read my post, so I'll say it again:

OBAMA INCREASED YOUR GUN RIGHTS. That's a curious way of trying to get rid of guns.

Just be honest - you hate him.

LMAO!

Obama has banned the re-importation of M1 rifles.

That is DECREASING gun rights, silly.

Steve, we've already gone over this business of you just making things up...

Obama has banned the re-importation of M1 rifles.

Holy Crap! What we don't have enough being made here? With all the types of weapons you can buy, you want vintage crap that is readily available already?

Sounds like you're the one dropping the acid around here.

[With all the types of weapons you can buy, you want vintage crap that is readily available already?]

If you go to any gun show here in NY the M1's are a dime a dozen...REAL M1's...not that imported crap. There are booths that sell parts so you can freaking build your own.

Toasty - What laws has the president signed that increased gun rights, except for allowing people with carry permits to carry their weapons on/in federal parks?

Since Harry Reid sponsored that one Obama would have looked like a fool to oppose it.

Heh, so you finally admit that he has signed a bill increasing your gun rights. It's a start, I suppose.

I dont hate Mr. Obama Im former military I respect the office. I even dont care if he gets re-elected. As long as Ms Pelosi and Mr. Reid are minority leaders.

My gun carrying friends have never been able to answer this question. If guns make a nation safe, why isn't the US the safest nation in the world?

Charlie

Simple answer. Too many liberals. If they're not the criminals they support them.

Sorry Weery, but you're going to have to do a lot better than that, kiddo.

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"Charlie

Simple answer. Too many liberals. If they're not the criminals they support them."

Well weery -- I see you're a typical ditto-head --- when you don't have an answer to a real question, you revert to a smart-ass comment.

Grow up, Larry. Stop parroting bumper stickers and act like an adult.

Yes and only in a repug's America do women have to explain to her employer why she want birth control pills.

larry - you are a damned LIAR! Michelle Obama not only showed up - she did a GREAT job. She won awards for the job she did. Maybe if you had an ounce of intelligence or integrity you'd have found out the facts. But like a true Republican - you lie. There in NO Grand Ol Party anymore. Just backward, intelligence fearing, women hating, idiots! You are stupid beyond belief and your eagerness to show your stupidity makes it worse!

Bet you don't buy any Girl Scout Cookies either there do you Lawrence?

larry, your lack of intelligence is showing... again.

Seeking Sanity - you better keep seeking!

Michelle was working at the hospital at a salary of $121,00 per year. When her husband was elected to the Senate she got a promotion and raise. She was then "Vice President of External Community Affairs", a position that was created just for her. Her salary went to $316,000 per year. She promoted sending the poor patients to other hospitals so the tax payers could take care of them and her non-profit couild keep the wealthy sick folks. She was one of 16 other "vice president" at a NON-PROFIT hospital making more than an anesthesiologist made. When Michelle left to follow her hubby they never replaced her. The postion must have been very inportant, right? Why do liberals think it is OK for a non-profit hospital to pay out so much money for non essential positons? Oh wait, they can just tax others to pay for it, right?

larry - you can always tell when you're right. The libs get angry. Such fine words from seeking sanity. I would be banned for a week if I talked like that. Where's the moderator when you need her?

Larry, go back in the woods. Your militia is calling you.

JH - You again prove that there is NO sanity in the GOP.

"We are so very proud of Michelle personally, and we are very thankful for her professional accomplishments in creating and expanding the strategic vision for the Office of Community Affairs," said James Madara, MD, CEO of the Medical Center.

In light of her departure, Madara announced that the Medical Center’s Office of Community and External Affairs has been reorganized under the leadership of Eric Whitaker, MD, MPH, Executive Vice President for Strategic Affiliations and Associate Dean for Community Based Research.

Madara said the move would enhance support for the Urban Health Initiative, an ambitious effort to reshape health care on Chicago’s South Side.

Obama joined what was then known as the University of Chicago Hospitals in 2002 as Executive Director for Community Affairs. She built up programs for community relations, neighborhood outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity and minority contracting.

In 2005, Obama was named Vice President for Community and External Affairs at the Medical Center, where she was responsible for all programs and initiatives that involved relationships between the Medical Center and the community. She was also responsible for managing the Medical Center’s business diversity program.

Obama worked on volunteer programs in the hospitals and in the community, community-based health education conducted by physicians and the Adopt-a-School initiative. Under her leadership, the number of hospital employees serving in the community increased nearly fivefold, while community members volunteering in the hospital nearly quadrupled.

Obama also helped create the South Side Health Collaborative, which finds "medical homes" for residents of the South Side who lack ready access to primary care. The South Side Health Collaborative became a major pillar of the Urban Health Initiative.

In 2007, Obama switched from full-time to part-time, and subsequently took an unpaid leave of absence to work on husband Barack’s presidential campaign.

Prior to joining the Medical Center, Obama had worked at University of Chicago as Associate Dean of Student Services. She launched and became the first Director of the University Community Service Center, which offers new opportunities to student, staff and faculty for service learning, volunteerism and civic engagement.

During her time in these positions she received various awards for her outstanding owrk.

JH - you're a moron and a LIAR!

You see, the difference between a not-for-profit and a for profit is in how the employees get paid. In a for profit, the employees get a small salary, then a lot of stock, on which they pay a 15% capital gains tax, when they eventually sell. In a not-for-profit, the employer/employee taxes of social security and mendicare are paid, as well as ordinary income tax on wages/salaries.

That is the only real difference, who gets the profits. In for-profits, owners get a share, employees get the most. In not-for-profits, employees get everything, as there are no "owners." In both cases, the person making the money gets paid what the market will bear. Nothing wrong with it, Romney got and is still getting millions from Bain Capitol. Michelle Obama worked hard, did well and was promoted. Having a US Senator for a spouse is usually not something which hurts your career when part of your job is to get to know and talk to influential people. That's just reality.

How many US Senators have spouses who work. Have any of them received promotions since their spouse became Senator ? OOOOOH, maybe they should all quit.

Wow...All this woman hating crap is going to buy you a lot with the leg weave crowd>

Larry 2037452--- you're a Republicans dream --- ignorant, uninformed, and scared to death of anyone not exactly like you.

Yes and only in a repug's America do women have to explain to her employer why she want birth control pills

Where and when did this happen? This is why no one buys these kinds of stupid arguments the left continues to throw against the wall hoping it sticks. America knows (with possibly the exception of the left leaning regulars here) these are straw men attempting to deflect from a failed president who never had any good ideas.

Michelle Obama's position was so important they did away with it immediately. She only got the job as payback for favors expected of her husband. It's the Chicago way. That....and killing.

Where and when did this happen?

Arizona, early March 2011.

Last time I checked, weren't politicians' spouses off the table??? Yep, typically right-winger, showing no respect for their opponents....

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

Wrong Freshie

You begin with the premise that an employer owes an employee birth control. Wrong. So an employee would not have to "explain to her employer why she wants birth control pill". Unless, of course, she simply wanted to. Instead, she would just go to Wal Mart with $9.00 and buy her some.

ABO 2012

Technically, the law already mandates that employers cover contraceptives in their insurance, which by the way can be used for other reasons besides preventing a pregnancy. I'm not a woman, but even I know that. And you do realize that the price of medication is increasing, right??? That includes contraceptives. And if it already is the law, why should the employee have to explain why she needs contraception???? Why should that be mandated??? Isn't it a violation of her privacy????

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

More likely they realize that all Obama has done is increase their gun rights, and stopped panicking about a black man in the White House.

We saw the same drawback in 2000 when Clinton was about to leave office. And Clinton was white.

Heh, feel free to use that as your barometer, Nostradamus...

The barometer is coming down one day at a time. People are feeling the pressure descending as the most anti-business president ever is about to make his exit.

Good One Toasty :)

Obama/Biden 2012

Road Warrior - you are going to be SO disappointed in November.

A government may be able to ban guns, but it is impossible to eliminate them from society. All you need is some metal, a lathe, and a few common chemicals. Kids used to make deadly "zip" guns in my old neighborhood. It makes the concept of banning them futile.

Heh, I should warn you that I am TOTALLY going to throw this in your face in November, RW. I can already tell you up front that I won't be able to resist it.

People are feeling the pressure descending as the most anti-business president ever is about to make his exit.

Anti-business? Is that why the stock market has risen fairly steadily, even in the face of Euromarket instability, until it's now almost 13,000?

President Obama isn't leaving office until January 20, 2017.

People are feeling the pressure descending as the most anti-business president ever is about to make his exit

And in spite of this president being anti-business, the Dow has gone up steadily, we have had 25 months of private sector job growth, and a recovering economy. Tell me, how exactly has Obama been anti-business??? It doesn't surprise me that a conservative would brandish a liberal as "anti-business," but Obama, he's a moderate. And don't give me the bull@!$%# that Obamacare will cost jobs because that has yet to be decided. Did you know that there are perfectly good reasons for enacting policies that slow down economic growth, like preserving the environment??? All Obama has done is try to foster a recovery and steer clear from the deregulatory and supply-side policies that led us into this mess. But apparently stubborn-minded conservatives like yourselves cannot admit that you were wrong and the so-called socialists were right.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

ANTI-BUSINESS MY ASS

Good to see liberals being believers in trickle-down economics. We'll make conservatives out of you yet.

Trickle-down economics doesn't work. We gave large tax cuts to the wealthy in 2003 and so where are the jobs??? According to supply-side economics, tax cuts cause dynamic economic growth. So why did we just come out a recession and not an expansion similar to the dot-com era????

Another swing and a miss for the "I'm a hunter" Pander Bear!

Da Noid - I'm sure if you wait long enough Karl Rove will have it in a commercial against Obama. Remember, his commercials always spout lies.

not yet 'da toid', not yet. He's actually only started doing that to his old neighborhood in Chicago and what he's confiscating Holder's selling to mexican drug lords and like everything else the Hope Dope does....it takes time! He can't disarm America and arm Mexico overnight for god's sakes!!!

P.s. Seeking.... you have no chance of finding it....Sanity that is.

And here we go with another bob talking stupid sh!t again.

bob-2579213 - you're right. I'm seeking sanity in the GOP and you are completely right - there is NONE to be found. And, you clearly show that!

And here we go with another bob talking stupid sh!t again.

It's like they have to pass some @!$%# test before they can register as a bob...

Feisty - or fail every intelligence test ever developed!

Obama has already banned many guns:

http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/barack_obama_gun_control.htm

He's also banned M1 rifles from being brought back to the States for the Civilian Marksmanship Program.

President Obama will not let the "War Baby" be imported from the Korea era stockpiles because of the removable multi round clip. The M1 Garand is hopefully to be released soon, from what I have read. I guess I better add the War Baby is the .30 carbine, which I wish I would have bought a warehouse full 20 years ago.

I still can't figure out why people need to carry guns in national parks. Sounds like a recipe for trouble to me.

Again, Harry Reid sponsored it. Obama would look like a fool if he vetoed it.

That's kind of the point, Steve. Nobody is pushing for gun control. But the gun lobby is making a killing off of the panic they've created.

Toasty - Steven B missed the announcement about gun control. He's stuck in a time warp!

If you think the likes of Schumer, Pelosi, etc. have changed their stance on gun confiscation, dream on. The ONLY reason it isn't on the table is because of what happened the last time they put it there.

Just because guns are more popular than ever doesn't mean they wouldn't be out in force if the opportunity presented itself.

I half wonder if the whole Martin case wasn't a trial balloon to see if they could sway sentiment., it hasn't.

I completely agree, and I say that as a gun owner. I don't want to live in a country where everyone is packing around me when I'm in public... it is a bigger threat to the safety of my family than just about anything else I can think of.

I shared office in 2008 with two guys who voted for Obama. One was a life-long Republican and the other was a 22-old naive kid. Neither one are voting for Obama in 2012.

Road - you didn't share an office with either. And, if you had you'd find both would be voting for Obama again! The GOP has nothing!

you got it straight where? I think the entire Nation got it straight from this moron and village idiot show Obummer/Biden....straight up the ass!

Seeking,

The three of us were working with a green energy company named Lurgi, Inc in Memphis. The Republican was 61 years old and was tired of Bush and wanted change. The youngster voted for Obama because he thought the man was cool. Neither one has a job now. We keep in touch. They know they screwed up in 2008.

Road Warrior - no they voted right (if they exist) in 2008 and will vote the same way again in 2012. The GOP has nothing to offer and if either of them (if they exist) have a brain in their heads, they're not voting for Mitt!

Democrats lied to get elected. They promised health care reform and fiscal responsibility, we got Obamacare and $1.3 trillion deficits with 9% average unemployment instead. Voters acted accordingly in 2010.

In Obama's own words he took a shellacking yet progressive idiots haven't changed their stance one bit. Prepare for another coat this November.

@bob

Every single time I read one of your ignorant rants I wonder how it feels to be as lacking in intellect as you are. Each and every post you make is just a little bit more far fetched then the last. You seriously need to actually read a book and try to save what little intelligence you might have left.

You, of all people, should never, ever be accusing somebody of being the village idiot. You are the poster child for that particular species of mankind.

I'm hoping that one day you will grow up and actually act like an adult, but I've pretty much given up on that.

They promised health care reform and fiscal responsibility, we got Obamacare and $1.3 trillion deficits with 9% average unemployment instead. Voters acted accordingly in 2010.

We got healthcare reform; wasn't everything we hoped for, but it was a start. Those deficits were a combination of the recession and the Bush tax cuts (tried repealing those for the wealthy, but the GOP said no). Obama offered a $4 trillion package that would reduce deficits, but the GOP said no again because it had tax increases.

Do you even know why unemployment is so high??? We don't have the finances OR the guts to spend more money on stimulus projects, and middle class wages are too low. Businesses are wary of what is to come, and so they are hesitant to hire. Maybe if we stopped the bickering from both parties we could get things done.

In Obama's own words he took a shellacking yet progressive idiots haven't changed their stance one bit. Prepare for another coat this November.

How did the progressives hold firm??? Obama's deficit package was mostly cuts; he compromised on contraceptives; what else do you conservatives want??? Obama compromised during his entire term; and the GOP has simply pulled the rug out from under him. Seems like it is YOU who have been too stubborn.

And people voted in November 2010 because they were tired of the slow recovery and were swayed by the Tea Party Revolution. Now, after seeing the partisan and uncompromising attitude of the Tea Party, the American people will exact a vengeance on the politicians who promised jobs, but instead bitched about contraception and cost this nation our credit rating.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

Arizonatime - why does it not surprise me you're fron Arizona and find it refreshing when Romney speaks. Most people want to go wash the filth off after Romney talks. Why am I not surprised you'd make a "ghetto pimp" comment. You are pure filth - on wait - there's nothing pure about garbage like you! Oh and just for the record, you idiot, Romney uses a teleprompter. And, every President in modern times has used a teleprompter. Your ignorance is just growing and growing!

And they say Obama's opponents aren't bigots.

I heard they are considering renaming the teleprompter, the "Promptadummy".

bob-2579213 - since all Presidents in modern time have used teleprompters as well as Romney, your point would be? Oh sorry - that's not your point - it's just the top of your head!

I suppose if I were a racist like you, I'd feel the same way. Arizona is a good place for your kind. Stay there.

Arizona said:

You know it was refreshing to here Romney speak. It left you feeling clean afterward. Not like, after Obama speaks. When Obama speaks, and finished, it is like you just got hustled by some ghetto pimp and you feel real dirty. Kind of like, Jesse jackson, or Al Sharpton. Well after all he is the "Long Legged Mac Daddy". And Romney can speak without a teleprompter.

As you can clearly see we don't have a problem with race anymore, it's all behind us... BTW you seem to know a lot about pimps, is that how you were introduced to your wife?

AWOL - Ouch!!!

typical lose set of words!

Jolly, please clarify.... "typical"?

Calling his wife pimp introduced. which implies she is a or was a whore.

Biff Romney wants to have the Freedom to have more than one WIFE! lol!!!

Hey ladies when your husband comes into the Bedroom and ask you to move over and make room, if you Voted for Biff don't get angry. You know he comes from a Religion and a Family History that favors Piligamy!! lol!!!

That's why he doesn't respect women's RIGHTS!! lol!!!

1. Get Rid of the IDIOTIC "Stand Your Ground" laws!!
2. The NRA has managed to make killing people a sport!
3. They gotta do something with all those guns they's a stockpiling...

1. It's the law in over half the states and that will expand as conceal carry has because it works. Again, the more gun laws have been liberalized the lower the violent crime rate.

2. Pathetic lie. The NRA supports and trains police officers. It supports law and order, something that irks progressives.

3. Yea, target practice! It's a fun sport, try it.

RushISaPIG

1. Get Rid of the IDIOTIC "Stand Your Ground" laws!!

i think that particular law exists in Florida because drug dealers were rampant and not afraid to knockdown any front door and look for their money. Meanwhile, White people lived in safe harbour and christian ways so I don't know why they use this kind of legal tactic as a defendant in a trial in Florida.

Really, that's why the death rate climbed after the law was rammed through by the NRA. WE are THE PEOPLE, NOT THE NRA. Let them shoot themselves, they should not be passing legislation. Take every politician that supported them and these laws and remove them from office and END THE NRA.