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In a room overlooking the White House, the National Right to Life Committee, the nation's oldest anti-abortion-rights organization, announced their support this morning of Mitt Romney.
"It is now time for pro-life Americans to unite behind Mitt Romney," said Carol Tobias, president of the group. "While some would like to call into question Mitt Romney's pro-life position, let me state clearly and emphatically, Mitt Romney is pro-life."
Tobias said the Romney campaign was informed of the endorsement late yesterday afternoon, and she read a statement from the former governor. In part, Romney said he was "grateful for [the NRLC's] support and honored by the trust they have place in me. I look forward to working together to carry out the great responsibility of protecting and defending innocent human life."
The endorsement comes late in the primary calendar compared to four years ago when the NRLC endorsed Fred Thompson.
"There was a different situation in 2008," Tobias said. "There was a pro-abortion candidate in the Republican primary, and we wanted to make sure that he did not get the nomination, so we wanted to select a prolife candidate to support. This year, all of the candidates seeking the Republican nomination were pro-life. They actively campaigned as pro-life; they took strong positions. So we early on said we'll be very happy with whoever gets the nomination. At this time, it has become apparent that Mitt Romney will be the party nominee, and we'll do everything we can to help him beat Barack Obama."
Tobias said when they earlier compared all of the candidate's positions and the judges they would appoint "all of the candidates were the same, which is why we stayed neutral in the race until this time when we have apparent nominee."
Tobias addressed concerns of people who feel Romney has flip-flopped on the issue of abortion.
"The pro-life movement is filled with converts," she said, "and we consider Mitt Romney to be one of those. I mean he did support abortion early on in his political career. But Ronald Reagan was pro-abortion early on in his career. We love people who have changed their position. Mitt Romney admits that he has done that, and we are happy to be working with him."
"I understand there are some that still have reservations," she said, "but I think, as the campaign goes on, it is a clear contrast between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama. I certainly expect pro-lifers to actively campaign for Mitt Romney and defeat Barack Obama."
The organization's Hispanic outreach coordinator Raimundo Rojas also spoke. Reaching out to Hispanic voters who overwhelming support the reelection of Obama over Romney, Rojas cited the disproportionate rate of abortions in the Hispanic community.
"Today, clearly the single most dangerous place for a Latina in these United States is in her mother's womb," Rojas said.
Rojas also attacked "looming tragic reality" of "ObamaCare," saying coverage would be denied, because of the "junta of bureaucrats."
Earlier this morning, another pro-life group, the Susan B. Anthony List, also announced their endorsement of Romney.
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Pro-life advocates are also pro-choice. They want the baby to be able to choose. I will never understand how any moral and decent human being can allow anyone to kill a baby in the third trimester, when it can survive on it's own without it's mother...
Cuz they don't?
"Therefore, according to Roe, the state's interest in protecting potential life becomes compelling at the point of fetal viability (when the fetus has the capacity for sustained survival outside the uterus). States are allowed to, and indeed have, severely restricted access to abortion in the third-trimester, except, as the Supreme Court has ruled, when necessary to preserve the woman's life or health."
I have seen teenagers that likely could not survive on their own without their mother.
Uhh, Tek - It still happens, AND there are still many people that support it. Many Pro-Choice groups are unhappy with the ruling and want to see it overturned.
RationalOne, you are a fellow Muslim Republican like me! And I applaud the National Right to Life Committee for its strong Muslim ties and beliefs. All things should be left in the hands of Allah, who is great, and these godless Communist Democrats only want their science so they can exploit the world.
As I am sure you believe, the thing inside a mother has more rights than the mother under Allah, and we need a religious state organized by the Koran to point out that if a woman has an abortion, she should be stoned. Don't forget, women get buried neck deep. If she truly is innocent, Allah will let her escape before she gets all cracked upside the head with a rock.
Pray, my Muslim Republican friend! Pray is best for you may call down Allah upon the doctors who would say otherwise, and the women who think they should leave their houses without their husbands or fathers. A Vote for a Republican in 2012 is a vote for Islam! Allah is Great!
N.B. The title of the previous FR article is a quote from spouse Ann Romney:
"We need to respect choices that women make."
Women WANT their babies to thrive, and no, they don't want to hurt them "in the third trimester".
That is why families need Planned Parenthood.
Remember Mitt Romney said of Planned Parenthood, "Let's get rid of that".
Planned Parenthood is an abortion mill. No tax dollars should go there.
Bob in Virginia knows the truth! He doesn't listen to silly news provided by man. He listens to his Cleric! Like the rest of you should! No robed man with a funny hat would ever say anything that wasn't approved by Allah. Now stop with this government program thing and get down with your Koran like Bob and me!
From FACT-CHECK.ORG:
Q "How much of Planned Parenthood's services are dedicated to abortions? Does the federal government fund those procedures?
A. Abortions represent 3 percent of total services provided by Planned Parenthood."
P.P. receives federal funding, but the money CANNOT BE USED FOR ABORTIONS - BY LAW. By law, no federal funds go to abortions.
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/
Backhouse--you obviously dont understand how money and cash are fungible so that debate just shows your financial acumen. But more importantly arent you for "economic fairness"? Can you explain why its economically fair for planned parenthood to receive federal funding as a charity over other worthy charities? Do you not think SIDs funding is worthy? What about the American Cancer Society? What about the Sierra Club? Is it economically fair that taxpayers fund a charity over others? Shouldnt it be funded solely through private donations like other charities? Seems like economic fairness to me.
You are sadly misinformed.....it is a very rare thing that occurs if the mother's life is in danger, or for another medical reason. It is between a woman's doctor and the woman, private family matters....butt out. You are not saving "babies". Get real.
If motherhood is so easy, why are there so many abortions?
Spinner #1: Tell me what language you wrote in, so I can decode it.
Spinner #2: Motherhood is biologically something we do. We are mammals and we reproduce as mammals.
And we need societal support if we are going to do a good job.
We need the security & certainty of health care for our families, just like the other developed countries have had for decades.
Pro-life freaks are just that, freaks, and what they really are is anti-choice. They are no more pro-life than the zealots that stand their ground and kill living, breathing people for fun; do not fall for their asinine spin. Pro-lifers will protect an egg to their dying day, but the minute it becomes a living, breathing human, they will beat it, ignore, starve it, deny it medical care. They will leave it in a dumpster, a fire-station doorstep, or an orphanage before they will accept responsibility to care for it. Accountability and responsibility are words that a pro-lifer cannot comprehend. It takes responsibility to determine if you can care for and rear a child. Any idiot can foolishly believe every egg should be formed into a child. It is a rarer bread that takes the responsibility to raise a child into a responsible, moral, ethical adult, and realize that if they can't, they should either abort, or carry the fetus to term and let someone else raise the child. It is time to bring out the electric chair for anyone who allows a fetus to be born without the commitment to properly raise the child.
Sure Red, and Pro-Choice people are actually Anti-Life.
Hiow in God's name do you folks get up each morning and make it through the day?
Now is the time for the right wing lunatic fringe to start whining about the left being enemies of women! I mean, no one is noticing that Romney has co opted the narrow minded and misogynistic groups that are against women's reproductive rights so they shouldn't notice that you chuckleheads are lying through your teeth when you lamely attempt to deny the obvious fact that GOP is firmly against the rights of women.
Good luck with that, by the way. You're going to need it, especially in November when women voters torpedo the floundering boat containing Etch-A-Sketch's few remaining hopes of being elected.
Where are the Catholic orphanages? The Catholic church owns some of the finest hospitals in every major city, why don't they put their money where their mouth is and offer some prenatal care and delivery services to poor pregnant women in exchange for the baby to be put up for adoption? How come the three couples I know who have adopted had to go to Russia or Guatemala and spend $80,000 to $100,000 to adopt a nearly newborn baby? The church has all the resources in place to likely save many babies, but all I see is lip service and accusations, I don't see them campaigning for poor pregnant women to have a healthy baby delivered at their hospitals and then put up for adoption. Ideology does not save babies, money does.
Here you go Forrest:
http://www.missionfinder.org/orphanages.htm
Looks like there are several hundred Christian Orphanages.
I looked at your link and they are all for older children WCA, not for newborn infants. Nice Try.
So Forrest, Older orphans don't count in your world?
Wow. Just Wow.
Didn't realize you had qualified it.
Now think real hard and see if you can come up with a reason that most infants are not in orphanages.
Try hard, I bet you can do it.
The catholic church does not have anywhere near the number of facilities necessary to take the overwhelming volume of unwanted children that will be put up for adoption every year if they get their way and Roe v. Wade is struck down. Besides, do we really want the catholic church to take in hundreds of thousands of innocent children every year considering the track record their priests have with young children? Of course, WCA doesn't care because the only thing that really matters is his hypocritical sense of self righteousness. Who cares about the kids and the social price this country will pay, right, WCA?
That's actually true.
Of course they count taking your weight as a service, taking your blood pressure as a service, talking about your medical history as a service, each lab test is a service, discussing your options as a service, physical exam as a service, giving you an aspirin as a service, giving you and antibiotic as a service, giving you a sedative as a service, numbing the cervix as a service ....
Think of it kinda like someone saying one of the most powerful and lethal weapon assets in history, a US Supercarrier, less than 3% of US Naval service members are dedicated to actual combat or actually hurt anybody.
Nice spin .... well nice regurgitation of a thinkprogress spin.
From RCP Sailcat:
-- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).
So why don't you and your ilk put their own money where their mouths are, sailcat?
My money is on Roe v. Wade remaining the law of the land and I refuse to donate any money at all to religious organizations that hide and protect pederasts. By the way, does the money contributed by conservative households in your questionable stat include money given to churches? I would highly question their qualifications as charitable organizations. My donations go to the United Fund and the American Red Cross. To what groups do you donate money, if any, WCA?
You are obsessed with ThinkProgress.
From FactCheck.Org:
Patient Care Provided by Planned Parenthood Affiliate Health Centers:
1. Cancer Screening and Prevention - 16%
2. Other Women's health services - 10%
3. Contraception - 35%
4. Diseases/infections/treatment - 35%
5. Abortion related - 3%
6. Other services - 1%.
Planned Parenthood provides basic health services for MEN and WOMEN and FAMILIES.
**In some rural areas, P.P. is all they got.
See chart: http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/
Sailcat, it is none of your business where I tithe my money.
Roe v Wade is a Red herring. Abortion has come up in every election for 40 years and no one is going to reverse it.
But Democrats always pull it out to scare people anyway.
I did not say older orphans don't count, the point was saving babies from abortion, none of the places on your site deal with babies, they deal with much older children mostly with problems. Probably the kind of problems that stem from being born into a situation where they did not have a stable family situation, the kind of thing that often happens when young single women have babies that can not afford or properly care for. The kids at the places in your link could have easily been placed with a family as newborns, sad truth is not to many people want to adopt a twelve year old with problems. The church could simultaneously reduce the number of abortions and the number of these older orphans if they would do as I suggested above. They do not, and most adoptions by couples desperate for a baby to love and raise properly are done by leaving the USA to acquire a nearly newborn infant. Some pro lifers threaten abortion providers and intimidate young women but they do not pressure their church to offer the services of their fine hospitals in exchange for the infant to be adopted.
Well Forrest, I don't know about your church, but mine is broke.
Don't know where they are suppose to come up with the money for all these orphanages.
Cost of everything is going up.
Donations are going down.
Charities suffer. All of them.
Good to see all the neo-con women hating groups lining up to support Mitt Romney. I wonder if the Catholic church will be supporting him too, now that Saint Ricky's not gonna be the US Pope.
"Sailcat, it is none of your business where I tithe my money."
Yeah, I thought so.
So, Flip Romney is anti-choice and he respects women? No way.
Catholic hospitals generate tons of cash for the church, they already have the hospitals, and the medical personal in their employ. In fact the ones (Catholic hospitals) in my city are constantly under huge expansion projects, they could add a tiny little wing for newborns, for the short time period until they were adopted. They could shift some of the expense of their pro life advertising to actually being pro-life, they could give all the pro-lifers a good cause to donate to, instead of just lip service and accusations they could take real effective action.
Forrest, hospitals are closing in SouthEastern Michigan all over the place.
Not sure where you are getting your info, but the reality in my neck of the woods says it is wrong.
I guess you've never heard of Birth Right, have you, Forest?
It's a service funded by Catholic Charities, devoted to women facing unplanned pregnancies. They provide transportation, per-natal care, counseling, maternity clothes, infant clothes and equipment, housing, (if necessary), and, yes, if the birth mother decides to put the baby up for adoption, help with that process.
I'm surprised you never heard of it. Birth Right exists all over this country.
Nice straw man argument, though.
Sheesh Backhoser ...
Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in the US.
Your source even stated that 1 in 10 clients received an abortion. That kinda blows the 3% deception by a factor of 3, wouldn't you think?
Look at as new car dealership. New car dealerships are there to sell new cars. That is their main focus, that is where people go to buy a new car, that is their big ticket.
Yet probably only 3-10 people that come into a new car dealership spend the $20,000-$50,000 for a new car. Most come into have their car serviced, car repaired, buy parts, wreck repair, shop for a used car ....
So they screen for cancer and refer people to providers who can actually do a mammogram, they hand out a few antibiotics, they hand out bc pills .... and new car dealerships can do an oil change, fix the windshield wipers ....
I am neutral on abortion .... as the joke goes, I feel very strongly both ways. Roe was a horrible decision based on the Constituion, the perfect example of judicial activism ..... regardless - it is settled. Just don't tell me abortion is a health issue / equate it with breast cancer.
They are still the largest abortion provider in the US.
There booming in my town WCA, the health-care industry is booming all around me, the Catholic hospitals and the others can't seem to build on and expand fast enough. Tower cranes at virtually every one of them, 3 of the 5 Catholic hospitals are simultaneously doing major expansions. They got the money WCA, non of these hospitals operate on a charity basis, and neither do the construction companies working for them, they got the cash on hand. My health insurance has paid their six figure bills twice now, once for the heart surgery, and once for the cancer. They could deliver a few babies pro bono, if they wanted too.
I don't know anybody that was able to adopt through Birth Right, NJ like I said they had to leave the country to get an infant, I know one person who tried Catholic Charities but could not afford the $225,000 they were told it would cost, so they spent $80,000 adopting a baby from Guatemala.
American Crossroads are probably the biggest liars in America. There is always a 'biggest' datum to quote.
Q. The GOP leadership and their benefactors, and their $million/billion dollar Lying Ad Disinformation machine:
Represents what percentage of the American people?
Ballpark figure?
This is ridiculous. If money is totally fungible, then exactly what do accountants do for the substantial living that they make?
Way. He respects the right of women not to choose, or if they choose, to choose whatever he chooses.
Why stop at teenagers?
Not naming names, or anything, but if the shoe fits ....
And somehow churches, orphanages, and charities are supposed to take over all the functions that government current does?
If you have something to do with auto design, remind me next time to take a train.
Have you asked First Chooser Mitt Romney if that was okay?
I try to make good choices. You?
Well, then, keep your nose out of Planned Parenthood, where it doesn't belong, and I promise not to make a fuss about defense spending and subsidies for oil companies, both of which I oppose.
Deal with it.
does anyone really believe that making abortions illegal will stop them
its like the war on drugs, if women want to have an abortion they will find a way but instead of a professional doctor it will be in an alley by some stranger and more women will probably die from infections or internal bleeding caused by a person who has no medical training
if that's what you Pro-lifers want then ban abortion i guarantee that the death rate for pregnant women will rise and people will want to make it legal again
I think Republicans calling themselves "pro-life" is an oxymoron because once that child is born, the Republicans have already been on the attack to prevent that child from quality affordable health care, from receiving any kind of benefits to feed, clothe or house that child, and above all Republicans overwhelmingly REFUSE to educate that child so with those Republican policies in place how could the child live a "quality" lifestyle?
We all know that Repulicans are calling to abolish the Department of Education because Republicans do not believe in Public Schools.
Obama / Biden 2012
Typical GOP misdirection. It's all about the economy... But on this hand...
No more than Prohibition stopped drinking.
The most important thing that conservatives consistently refuse to face, however, is that trying to inhibit sex by taking away birth control will stop neither sex, nor unwanted pregnancies.
Au contraire. Abstinence only makes the heart grow fonder.
Ironically, birth control -- of whatever kind -- is the BEST available option for avoiding abortions, and yet conservatives continue to attack it.
Now, why do you suppose that is?
Blessed be.
Pro-lifers where around back when bush was in office so why didn't they get rid of abortion back then
makes you wonder
"White Collar Auto --
Well Forrest, I don't know about your church, but mine is broke.
Don't know where they are suppose to come up with the money for all these orphanages.
Cost of everything is going up.
Donations are going down.
Charities suffer. All of them.
And somehow churches, orphanages, and charities are supposed to take over all the functions that government current does?"
Oh Anna you nailed it! I see why you are a lawyer.
I don't get the "fungible money" argument. Are you saying that if Planned Parenthood gets 70% of their funding from the government and 30% from other grants, donations and fees for services, that you are upset because they might accidentally take $100 of YOUR tax money from that 70% and use it for an abortion? Isn't that a little ridiculous?
And then we have the idiots in Arizona who have gone to an extreme new low and defined the beginning of life prior to conception. What's next, murder charges against teenage boys that have a wet dream?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/10/az-abortion-bills-arizona-gestational-age_n_1415715.html
I see the "pat on the back" crowd is out in full force.
AM, as has been the case lately, I have no idea what you are talking about.
(This is where you call me a name for making that comment)
You seem to have returned to FR after some Feisty brainwashing.
Sorry to see that.
Will a blow job in AZ now be considered cannibalism?
Anna Molly--it has nothing to do with accounting--more like budgeting and you also assume incorrectly my views. I personally could care less of federal funds were used to subsidize abortion as I think thats a red herring and I am pro choice anyway. I think we should just cut through the crap and just admit that is what is done. Its easy to explain though and I am sure you get it right how you just reallocate private donations to the budget area that is required to pay for the services to fill the gaps right where federal funding is not allowed? Its like your local college asking for donations and you say I dont want any of my money to go to athletics and they say ok where you want to earmark your donation to. You say how about the science department and they just take unallocated funds from the science department and put it in the athletic budget.
My issue is economic fairness and that planned parenthood should not be federally funded anymore than any other deserving charity--nothing to do with abortions.
Nice to see that all the Neo-cons and Rinos are starting to line up behind Mittens. Like Lemmings following their leader, looks like Mitt has plans to continue to lead the country off a cliff.
Although I can't be sure those plans won't change tomorrow and again the next day and again the next day and again the next day, you know how even his wife admits Mitt changes his opinion.
Comparing Planned Parenthood to the American Cancer Society/Sierra Club is an unfair comparison. Do the later organizations treat people? Are we to believe the claims that ACS receives no government funding?
http://www.cancer.org/AboutUs/WhoWeAre/acs-fact-sheet
Yet more poppycock. It has EVERYTHING to do with accounting, and NOTHING to do with budgeting. Accounting is where fungibility comes in. ALL money is fungible EXCEPT for accounting.
The GAO audits Planned Parenthood every single year, thoroughly and completely, and consistently assures us that Planned Parenthood does NOT use federal money for abortion services.
You can bet your sweet life that, if there was any truth to the Republican talking points that PP misuses its funds, Republicans in Congress -- and not just on silly, clueless right-wing blogs -- would be screaming about it.
And curiously, they're not.
No, I don't think so. Unless you really want me to, which most of the time, I think you do.
And where exactly do you speculate that such brainwashing would have occurred?
Because, obviously, I missed all the fun.
No kidding. Do you even have an idea about what YOU'RE talking about?
Nothing wrong with giving somebody a "pat on the back" for a job well done.
I have yet to see a newborn baby survive on its own. Let's face it, the Pro-lifers should be renamed to the Pro-Destitute group. Only they believe a 'Prom Night Dumpster' baby is justified because it will miraculously survive on its own living among the trash.
http://video.adultswim.com/family-guy/prom-night-dumpster-baby.html
Only if you swa...oops, I mean not if you spi...oops, better not answer that. I can't do it delicately.
True. And thank you.
But really, he's pitching softballs today. ;-)
LOL. For all you right-wingers trying to guess Romney's real position on abortion, most Mormon's believe abortion is wrong for them personally, however, they do not believe it should be made illegal and that this is a matter of personal conscience especially in cases of rape/incest or the woman's life in danger.
So when Romney says he supports "personhood" legislation, that's because he had no clue what the legislation was about or how birth control works. When Romney's campaign says they'll get back to reporters about the Lilly Ledbetter legislation, that's because Romney is not familiar with it. And then when he releases a really vague statement, that's because he's trying to keep everyone guessing until after he's elected.
Look not only at the position of the LDS church on social issues, but also at Romney's background, for example his mother's positions when she ran for office. This is Romney's real position. He is only pandering to the far-Right because he has no choice in order to reach is life-long dream of being POTUS, and he will stay lock step with the far-Right as long as he needs their support even after he is elected. But that is not indicative of any real conviction.
Let's have a President who does what he says, and says what he means, and is at least well-informed. Obama/Biden -2012!
TruePatriot: VERY well said. That really is the problem I have with Mitt Romney, I truly don't know what his positions are on the various issues. In short, I don't trust him. I think he is going to be a sneaky SOB who says one thing to get elected and do something else entirely once he gets in office.
That's the real problem people have with the Tea Party GOP, most of them say one thing and do something else. They say they want to create jobs, yet they get in office and want to cut thing which lead to better jobs. They say they love America, yet they attack women, the poor, disabled and veterans with their budgets and other proposals. How can you love America and attack Americans ?
True,
Norquist announced on-stage that GOP/Koch/Norquist only want a President that can hold a pen, and sign the legislation they give to him.
Nothing else has any merit in Norquist's abuse-the-people mentality.
See AM, I knew you could be condescending.
Way to go, you self righteous know it all.
It's really hard not be condescending when talking to you, WCA. Try not to take it too personally.
Why, thank you. I always knew you'd see reason. ;-)
Anna Molly--just shows you dont understand the concept that cash is fungible and you ignored the substance of my post. No one said especially me that Planned Parenthood was doing anything outside the law but do you really not understand how budgeting and cash work to be able to meet the letter of the law but substantively it really has no impact? What about the economic fairness argument?
Forest; the orphanages were phased out in the 30's when Child Labor Laws went into effect. Up to that time, the children in them were made to work as adults for most of the day with very minimum 3-4 hours of schooling. They worked on farms and in factories. The church supplied it's own wine and vestments and any other thing they needed and this is where the labor came from. There were many accidents to children and they went unreported. When the authorities came in and checked the church started closing the facilities and instead opened "private" , expensive boarding schools.
Yeah, tell me again how this election is going to be all about the economy, and I'll tell you about some land I've got for sale...
These groups are going to keep social issues front and center which will drive the wedge in even further between the GOP and the majority of women voters.
Yes they will make it hard for Mitt to play on both sides of this fence.
Someone should tell this bunch that Malibu Mitts Wife Ann just said this morning on Fox News:
The Choices Women make Should be Respected!
Kiss My Grits!
Occupy SoggyBottom!
Looks like Willard wasn't aware of what Ann said.....lol
Well at least his supporters acknowledge his Etch-A-Sketchness for what he is...
Where is the land Ursula?
Cuz, come November, all anyone is going to care about is $4 gas and putting food on the table.
If you don't believe that, I am happy.
You, too, may keep trudging along in your willful ignorance.
WCA many people feel that 4 dollar a gallon gas is more a result of republican policies than democratic policies, don't be to sure that Obama takes all the blame for their pain at the pump. Oil companies and republicans go together like coffee and donuts everyone knows that.
Many people that you talk to Forrest. Have you seen the polls?
Willful Ignorance Forrest.
Keep whistling passed the graveyard and Obama will surely be a one term president.
WCA, this particular story is about conservative social positions - not about bread and butter issues. While I believe most people vote their pocketbooks, there are zealots who will continue to push a social agenda and, to garner their support, Romney will have to give them a stage.
You do know that Romney is trailing miserably for women's votes, don't you? If it's not due to social issues as you've suggested, then the majority of women must believe Romney is incapable of improving their economic outlook.
Zealots on both sides Ursula.
You said this:
Yeah, tell me again how this election is going to be all about the economy, and I'll tell you about some land I've got for sale...
So does that make you a zealot?
You do know that Obama is trailing miserably in the Male vote don't you.
This all works both ways Ursula.
That's fine, WCA - there are more women voting...
WCA - you just can't decide which topic to be on today can you? You start out railing against women's choices then, when you realize you can't make an intelligent argument against women making choices about their own bodies - you change topics! Well, you still can't make intelligent arguments - on to the next topic!
Well then Ursula, Obama has nothing to worry about and we should just pronounce him President.
Why then does the left seem so worried?
Sanity, all I am doing is replying to Ursula, so if you cn't seem to follow that, it ain't my problem.
Go somewhere else, maybe you will find that obviously ever elusive sanity.
WCA - only in your mind is the left worried. However the far right is downright frantic!
Obama/Biden 2012
Romney is severely pro abortion ..I saw him on video !
Sure Seeker. Concentrate on the Far Right. That is who you need to worry about.
Forget about Independents and Moderates cuz, they love Abortion and $4 gas.
No WCA - still seeking sanity in the GOP but, as you prove daily, there is none to be found! Oh and WCA, I am a registered Independent and like most Independents and Moderates, we will NOT vote to take the country back 100 years. So, no GOP vote!
Willful Ignorance Forrest.
Keep whistling passed the graveyard and Obama will surely be a one term president.
WCA I just looked at 8 different polls, 1 has Romney ahead by 5 the other 7 polls have Obama beating Romney by 7 to 16 points. I don't think I am the one whistling pass the graveyard, or being willfully ignorant.
Sanity you seem to be a lot of things.
Independent ain't one of them.
That is great Forrest. Than Obama should have no problems.
Why then is the DNC promising that this will be the dirtiest campaign ever?
BTW I was speaking of polls that have to do with the Economy, to Ursulas first point. Things tend to get muddied as we work our way down the thread. As a rule I don't like polls, Especially head to head 6 months out. The Economy polls asked specifically about how the President is doing with the economy today.
Who knows, he has 6 months to turn it around.
TO: Forrest Grump 2.0 who wrote:
Absolutely correct!
Obama / Biden 2012
The economy would be the most important issue for voters except when one party is trying to take reproductive rights away from women, and when that same party in the early days of the Obama administration, made it crystal clear that they felt women didn't deserve equal pay for equal work. Republicans are bringing up these social issues and will continue to bring them up again, just like my dog buries and digs up her old bones. They just can't help it, and it will bring about their downfall in November.
the old social issues were bound to resurface once everyone became less afraid of the favorite republican boogieman, the terrorist. Honestly, they don't know how to do anything constructive for this country. When they are in charge, everything goes to perdition!
WCA the polls I looked at simply asked the question who would you vote for president Obama or Romney. The campaign will be tough I would never want to underestimate the competition, but having said that I'd rather be in Obama's shoes than Romney's because the truth is most of those peoples minds are made up and they are not likely to change them. Republicans have been campaigning against Obama since his inauguration and by large the electorate has not bought what they were selling, if they have not got him in the hole by now I seriously doubt that Mitt Romney is the guy can put him there. Looks like the republican leadership has Waterlooed themselves and will not get the thing they most wanted. I think they will have failed on their number one priority, and because that was their number one priority they deserve to fail. I personally will, and I invite others to donate a lot of time and energy to contribute to their failure, I owe the wormy bastards that much as a patriotic citizen of the USA.
Forrest Grump - and you will be joined by THOUSANDS who want to help defeat the GOP. I don't remember a time - in my entire life - that a party was so hell bent on defeating a President that they didn't care about the country - until now. It's a sad statement about the GOP. But, they've dug their own grave.
WCA - sorry - wrong as usual. A registered Independent who has voted Republican on occasion but I am proud to say not in the last 8 years. The GOP has lost vision and their integrity. They fall farther and father every day and, when you have to cling to the likes of Romney you know you're nearing bottom. It's unfortunate a party that used to be great has sunk so low. It's unfortunate their members have lost their compass.
"While some would like to call into question Mitt Romney's pro-life position, let me state clearly and emphatically, Mitt Romney is pro-life."
Well, that would have come as a big surprise to Mitt Romney a few years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4
Oh, wait - this Tobias guy (First name? last name?) seems to think he's seen the light and changed his mind. If you can't watch the whole 5 minute video clip, just skip ahead to about the 2:20 mark where his opponent quotes Ted Kennedy's famous statement:
"Mitt Romney isn't pro-choice, he's not anti-choice - he's multiple choice"
P.S. - Gosh, I miss Tim Russert.....
JoAnne in PA - I LOVED Tim Russert and miss him terribly. It seemed so cruel that he died before President Obama was elected. He would have popped his buttons! What a great guy!
When I read the headlines my first thought was which Romney?
He will morph again depending on the wind direction.
Can First Read also make sure we know when the Black Panthers, PETA, NAMBLA, all the Eco-terrorists groups, the National Socialists, the Atheist Party get behind Obama? This is clearly an attempt by First Read to keep the pro choice women from getting upset at the comment by Hilary Rosen and deflecting the issue and debate. Objective journalism at its finest.
Kirk, stick with the GOP. You're just their cup of tea.
Pat, I dont stick with anyone. I voted for Clinton twice and thought he was a great pragmatic non ideologue president. I voted for Kerry against Bush so stop your Obama campaign crap. Obama has been an economic disaster for this country and his rhetoric designed to inflame and divide this country are shameful. I deplore the social issue platform of many of the items on the GOP platform. I hate their anti gay marriage stance (one that is also held by Obama by the way) and I dislike the pro life at all costs stance. Their inability to have some reasonable views on gun ownership restrictions is also bothersome to me. So I dont want to stick with the GOP and living in Chicago prevents me from even having a GOP party. I am not blind like you to the economic damage Obama continues to cause and his naive view of the world. Virtually all of his proposals kill jobs and stunt growth and push labor offshore and his failure to see the unintended consequences of his proposals is even worse. I am voting purely on economic policy in this election and nothing to do with the GOP party.
National Socialists would never get behind a Democrat, but they do tip their hat to the Republicans and occassionally a Republican tips their hat right back
oaklawn.patch.com/articles/republican-congressional-candidate-says-holocaust-never-happened
NAMBLA is also likely anti-Democrat since they tend to pass those 'freedom-limiting anti-child labor/anti-rape/pro-rights laws' that sends pedos to prison for a long time.
Black Panthers, PETA and Atheists tend to be democratic though, you're absolutely right.
Are you really comparing atheists to the black panthers and eco terrorists?
NAMBLA has not given its support to President Obama, Kirk, so you don't have to resign your membership. Feel better? I knew you would.
Dont any of you guys have a sense of humor?
Sailcat, Kirk and Teknishan: why would the North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes be supporting either candidate ? I could see NAMBLA supporting Reagan, after all he was the screen actors guild president, but Obama or Romney ? What did they ever do for the acting profession ?
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Thank you South Park
Question is- Is Mitt in favor of "Partial Birth Abortion?" You know, where they partly birth the baby then scramble and vacuum ut his/her brains while he/she's screaming. Obama was for that. Romney needs to point that out.
And who's the only person who actually outlawed that again?
Oh, right. Bill Clinton.
Damage123 - you prove daily that your name is totally correct. You are severely Damaged. No one is IN FAVOR of partial birth abortion which is why it is only done when the mother's life is in danger. You are an idiot and a disgusting one at that!
Tek - you are seriously misinformed.
The GOP led Congress first passed similar laws banning "partial-birth abortion" in December 1995, and again October 1997, but they were BOTH vetoed by President Bill Clinton.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5168163
How can you live with yourself, knowing your party favors this kind of treatment to human beings?
Rational One - how can you live with yourself knowing this is a blatant lie. No one FAVORS this kind of treatment. It is done to save the mother's life. How can you live with yourself hoping women die?
Damage123, the poster child of idiots everywhere.
It's one thing to be stupid sh!t, but to be a lieing stupid sh!t requires even less brains.
Look it up, Frank. The zealous Obama was against a bill in the Illinois state legislature which prohibited partial birth abortion...
Did the bill just address abortion or were there other items attached to it?
Did the bill pass Bob?
And really Bob, with all the crap you post, why in the world should I believe anything from you?
Bob,
The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists supported the legality of partial-birth abortion. Apparently, they feel this procedure is sometimes medically warranted. But, what do they know?
http://womenshealthnews.wordpress.com/2007/04/19/american-college-of-obstetrics-and-gynecology-responds-to-supreme-court-decision/
Also Frank there was the aborted baby in Illinois who was found still alive in a closet where the child was discarded. The nurse was reprimanded for not throwing “It” back into the closet and instead comforting the child until it died. In spite of this, then senator Obama reiterated his support for partial and late term abortions.
I'm sure you have a source for your claim... right?
And don't tell me to look it up when it was YOU who made the accusation...
A closet? Really? What was the name of the hospital? They are beaking so many laws, they should be shut down.
Odd that I cannot find even one similar story anywhere.
Frank,
Look under urban legend! ;o)
PS: Are you the Frank from KY?
It's good to see ya!
Bob who will never be VP McDonnell, he opposed it because it had no provision for rape, incest or the life of the mother. You can't just take out what you don't like. BTW, it should be no concern to anyone what choice a woman makes or why because that woman is not forcing anyone else to do the same--it's why we call rights "rights".
Edgewater, IL Tue Feb 23, 2010
A 25-year-old North Side woman induced the delivery of her baby with
pills, ripped the umbilical cord with her hands and then threw the baby
girl in a bedroom closet “as if it were a bag of garbage,” Cook County
prosectors said Monday.
Marisol Molina, who was seven to nine months into her
pregnancy, wrapped the baby in a robe and tied her in a plastic bag
Thursday before hiding her at home — where the baby was discovered dead
a day later, Assistant State’s Attorney Kevin DeBoni said.
Nothing about a nurse being reprimanded.
thetotas - and this has what to do with the discussion today? Clearly - if this actually happened - this was a horrible incident and I hope the woman was jailed if it wasn't proven that she was mentally ill. What is your point? No one would approve of this activity. This is just your way to be disgusting and you make no point with the story at all except that you like depraved stories. You truly are Pathetic!
Jill Stanak was the nurse from Christ Hospital in Illinois who testified before the Illinois state legislature and U.S. Congress about the treatment of infants who survived third trimester abortions. They were, in fact, removed to utility closets to die. In fact, up to 20% of infants survived these abortions, only to be left to die alone and uncomforted.
From Wiki
gained initial prominence in 1999 when she testified that, while she worked as a nurse at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Illinois, infants that survived induced labor abortions were abandoned to die in a utility room.[5] These allegations led to a formal investigation by the Illinois Department of Public Health, which stated that the hospital violated no state laws. Shortly thereafter, Advocate Health Care changed its policy on induced labor abortions, barring its use against fetuses with non-lethal developmental issues.[6]
A Christ Hospital spokesman admitted "that between 10 percent and 20 percent of fetuses with genetic defects that are aborted survive for short periods outside the womb."[7]
At the signing ceremony for the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, President George W. Bush named Stanek in his speech, publicly thanking her for being in attendance.[8]
[edit]Obama infanticide accusations
There is nothing about this event to suggest a hospital or professional medical personnel were involved in any way. It appears the girl did this to herself, and this tragic event is, in any case, irrelevant to the subject being discussed. It is ludicrous and pointless.
So, the nut job from NJ manages to dig up a disgruntled nurse with an axe to grind from Wikipedia no less...
Who would of guessed?
Like I said above, urban legend...
Feisty---I'm afraid there is an imposter posting above as No Joe---he or she forgot to put in the post that the President lied about his dying mother.
What's octomon doing these days?
quick question
Which flip-flops more? a fish on dry land, or Romney when he wants more votes?
Mitt Flippy, Might Floppy, Flip Mighty, Flop Romney, Flip Mitty, man this guy is confusing to keep track of.
seeking sanity,
This is just your way to be disgusting and you make no point with the story at all except that you like depraved stories. You truly are Pathetic!
Read my post again, its was the story of the women who killed her daughter. Its the story Mukwa was referencing in her post 6.4. And yes, it did happen.
Hey Forrest,
I see you have been making the rounds. Good to see.
Romney supported abortion, but now he opposes it. Or does he? Does anyone know since his heart and mind is set on being president? Is Romney prepared to say whatever is necessary to gather more votes? This has all the appearances of hypocrisy! But then what does a Republican need to do to assure conservative Christians, right wing political voters, zionist Jews and Christians, anti-Obama racists and a host of other extremists hang together in destroying the USA.
Woo Wee! Anti-abortion-rights group supporting ETCH-A-SKETCH! I'll bet that cost the SUPERPAC a lot of money! Hey, 99% American People, vote STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC, the LIFE YOU SAVE may be your OWN!!!
TeaPeople and their faux concern for the unborn but do nothing for the born!
Hypocrits!
Chilled,
That't not entirely true...
They grow them up with the least amount of education possible until they are old enough to send off to another bull@!$%# war as canon fodder!
This way Willard, the rest of the right wing draft dodgers & their spawns don't have to go!
That's the unvarnished ideas/missions, Feisty!
No education..just grow the next army to be sent to their deaths!
'cause it most certainly won't be their kids although they often like the mantra about the 'debt' on our children and grandchildren......
.but leave out the fact that their kids are and will be 'trust fund' cared for........blind trusts must be really great!
Those people are scary to say the least!
Mitt was forced to say he is antiabortion....forced to pander to the extremists...I would have preferred that he stood up and say it is settled law, leave it alone. He can't win on this....Obama will win.
Hey didn't Ann Romney just in the last thread say that everyone needs to Respect the choices of women.
Does, Mitt know. Does the pro life movement know this?
Seriously, though I see no reason why anyone would vote for President based on disagreeing with a decision that has been settled legislation by SCOTUS; protected by privacy rights.
Get it through your heads folks, as a person who personally, warily accepts a women's rights to abort their baby, neither party will change the law. In fact, neither party should change it. Despite my aversion to the "me" generation that overuses this right; some women DO need this choice. Let them make that choice without the government intrustion of probes and scans.
Yellow Dog. Agreed.
There needs to be cultural support for girls to say "no" to casual sex, for men to take responsibility for birth control, and for sex education in the schools.
Our society currently promotes a lighthearted attitude towards promiscuity (have you watched television sitcoms lately?) There needs to be cultural and financial support for girls raising infants on their own; Just making having a abortion a crime does nothing to address the issue. This is why I don't trust the so-called pro-life groups, these same people defend covering viagra, but not birth control, through insurance, and promote abstinence-only edication.
Amy and Yellodog you both make great posts here.
While I personally am opposed to taking any life I realize the realities of what happens in life.
I would much rather see a woman, intent on abortion come hell or high water, to get it in a clean, well lit place by a licensed medical professional rather than in a dark alley with a coat hanger or in some filthy room by some guy who promises to take care of it.
We do not have the right to tell someone what they can or cannot do with their bodies. I am repulsed by tattoos and by piercing but I don't say anything as it is none of my business what they do with their bodies.
Proper councelling such as offered by Planned Parenthood and other organizations with or without government money can go a long way in educating people regarding abortion and other issues. But if a woman should decide on the abortion anyway let it be done properly by a professional.
Planned Parenthood does only 3% of their services on abortions and none of the abortions are paid for with government money. So all the hoopla about PP is ridiculous.
When the economy is getting better and your party is losing because of it you want to deflect attention away from that and onto other issues. Karl Rove mantra.
Yellowdog: the problem is that the Republican party really does want to take their country back, to 1850, when women and non-white men "knew their places." The stances that groups like the right to life group take just further support the position that women really don't know what is right for themselves.
They are very intent on putting into place so many restrictions as to make the ability to have an abortion or even contraceptives meaningless. These groups seem to have in their minds that women making the decison to have an abortion must be unintelligent and therefore are not capable of making their own medical decisions.
The whole right-to-life and anti-contraceptive movement is solely based on the fact that many men are threatened by having women think for themselves. These beliefs shoud have died with the neanderthal, yet they persist in the current Republican party. Since I have a wife, daughter and multiple sisters who have each proven that they are very intelligent, I find the implications to be very insulting.
Ann Romney never made a choice! She never had to choose between paying for childcare or providing a meal for her kids. She is a woman of privilege and certainly cannot speak for most women, who have no choice whatsover about whether to work outside the home or not! She brings home the assertion that G.O.P. means Gluttons of Privilege!
Judy: and they will say anything to keep it that way!
Is anyone surprised anti-abortion groups are going for Romney? This is not news.
I am not surprised, but I am sad. I'm sure most people are anti-abortion, in that they would like to see fewer procedures, but not because girls are threatened with prison for seeking one, but by our society becoming more responsible in the area of sexuality.
If these "anti-abortion" groups were serious, they would support the Obama administration policy making birth control more accessible to young women. What have Republicans ever done that helped prevent unwanted pregnancies, or supported low income women who give birth?
Romney is " severely" pro abortion ..I saw him on video !
Romney is " severely" pro abortion ..I saw him on video !
That was then. Now he has flipped. Tune in later, he will flip again.
When Will They Prosecute God?
The W.H.O. reports that there are 3.2 million stillbirths annually in the world, yet no one is holding God accountable. Since, in the mindset of Republican/conservative thinking, God is providing the master plan for everyone's destiny (looking at you, hellbound); then it follows that God is the greatest abortion provider in the entire history of the universe.
Will no speak to these heinous crimes against humanity, or thwart the will of such a ghastly, life stealing ghoul? (crickets)
Yeah, thought not.
Here's a thought, if you don't want an abortion, don't have one. Otherwise, mind your own darn business. Or to quote 1 Thessalonians 4:11, "mind your own business".
So, Flip Romney is anti-choice and he respects women? No way.
I can almost hear Mitt Romney's response to the news that Anti-Abortionists are endorsing him: "Oh no!"
Romney was hoping to pretend that "women's rights" is about anything "except" abortion. I guess Romney doesn't believe that women have any right to make their own choices.
That's what happens when Mitt pretends he's "for" something when he knows he's "against" it, and vice versa!
Obama / Biden 2012
I concur AM
Obama/Biden 2012
This will be my only post in here...
I'M SHOCKED!
But lets face it, he could go the other way next week.
Remember everyone, romney was for a woman's right to choose before he was against it! And where are all those pro-lifers when someone is facing the death penalty? One more thing, for every abortion performed - a man is breathing a sigh of relief!
Now we have the right-to-lifers backing Romney.
Yes, we need to respect the choices a woman makes, irregardless of my or your own religious beliefs. We all do not go the the same church. I abhor abortion and if a woman chooses to abort, it is her decision and her husband if applicable, alone with the doctor. She will answer to God himself. No politician, no matter what his religious beliefs are, has any right to force a woman to take a medical procedure(Ultrasound/Sonogram). Period!
We have listened to Romney and his minions when neither he or the others on stage intervened when a soldier, in theater, spoke of DADT from the field. This soldier was booed by the audience and no one came to his defense. Your husband and all who were on stage were and still are totally disconnected.
This is more than a generational gap for Romney, but rather a complete disconnect with the every day man and woman. If Romney does not repudiate and disavow the rants and flagrant vilification of women with required medical procedures put forth by the others in his party, he does not deserve any woman' vote. President Obama's economic policies have helped women with:
(a) The Health Care Bill working for the individual and not the insurance giants,
(b) Allowing children to stay on parents insurance until they are 25 years of age,
(c) Millions of Americans stand to receive insurance company rebates by the end of the summer, as a result of a new requirement in the federal health care overhaul that strictly governs how insurers spend their cash.
Romney's complete disconnect continues with "I will veto any "Dream plan Act if elected"! The Hispanic/Latino vote is out the window with this comment.
Then there's "I would have let the auto industry go bankrupt" statement, signalling his contempt for union employees in America. Romney is better versed in taking over an industry, bastardizing it, selling off parts to his advantage, firing employees and scrapping the rest at at profit if possible.
Romney and the TEA-GOP-Republican's are dead-set on protecting the super affluent and their taxation benefits.
Romney is so disconnected, I for-see a landslide for president Obama.
Rudy, well said!
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Well, the right wing's favorite conspiracy theories have been trotted out for public display. Crazy is on the menu today and ol' droidcrasher had a double scoop!
Damn!
Does seeking really think anyone is going to read thru his diatribe?
Blue pill, there buddy. Blue...Pill.
Forest Gump: Actually, if the Catholic Church tried to do something like that I can only imagine the backlash! While many so called Christian sects canvass door to door for people to come to whatever service they are providing, let a Catholic do something remotely like offering anything that makes sense and the 'proslitising' accusations would echo around the world.
Great thought, though.
Chevon 63--Why don t we send the girls to the Magdalene Laundries in Ireland,run by the Catholic church ,where they can work for next to nothing for 20 or 30 years? Boys , we can send to the rectories.
You made my point very well. All that glitters is in fact 'fool's gold'
to those of you who refute the PP funding of abortions; you can show the teapugs all the reports and sites for info until the cows come home. They cannot and will not accept the truth, Limburger has said it isn't so and the teapugs can only repeat the inuendos and lies over and over because they have nothing else to offer. Deflect from the obvious, keep them spinning and that way they'll never know what the real problems are. Karl Rove(should be in jail with Cheney) playbook.
Well ole Mitt was for almost every thing before he was against it. Why is any one surprised? Well - Mitt can at least " Hie off to Kolob, In the words of that famous Mormon Hymn, when he loses. We mere mortals have to play out our days on Planet Earth.
Look on the bright side of abortion--If the two former altar boys Adolph Hitler and Heinrich Himmler had been aborted, it is highly likely that 100 to 150 Million who perished in WW2 would have been able to live out their lives. Even pro-lifers have to admit that is not a bad bargain.