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Will Mitt Romney face a protest vote for the remainder of the Republican primary?
The former Massachusetts governor is all but the presumptive GOP presidential nominee after his main challenger, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, suspended his campaign on Tuesday. Romney faces a clear path to the nomination, and only token opposition from former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Texas Rep. Ron Paul in the remaining primaries.
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There's little question Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney will be the nominee; the bigger question involves whether conservative voters will rally behind his campaign.
There’s little question Romney will be the nominee; the bigger question involves whether the conservative voters with whom Romney has famously struggled this primary season, will rally behind his campaign.
One of the best ways to measure whether conservatives have acceded to the reality of Romney’s nomination will come in the 19 remaining caucuses and primaries. Romney’s likely to win most – if not all – of those contests. Whether he’ll be able to run up the score is a different matter.
If history’s any guide, Romney should look to win at least roughly 70 percent in the remaining contests.
Arizona Sen. John McCain ended his 2000 presidential campaign on March 9, leaving only token opposition to George W. Bush in the form of Alan Keyes for the rest of that primary cycle.
Aside from the contests on the very next day, March 10, when Bush won the Colorado primary with 65 percent and the Utah primary with 63 percent, Bush won all but one of the caucuses and primaries with at least 70 percent of the vote.
The only primary in which Bush fell below that bellwether was the March 21 primary in Illinois, which he won with 67 percent of the vote.
McCain, in his own march to the GOP nomination in 2008, was seen as the prohibitive favorite for the nomination after Romney ended his bid that year on Feb. 7, after Super Tuesday. McCain solidified his hold on the primary after former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee ended his campaign on March 5.
Similarly to Bush, McCain didn’t fall once below the 70 percent threshold after that point.
In Pennsylvania, which held its primary on April 22, 2008, McCain won 73 percent of the vote. The only time McCain matched the 70 percent marker – the Mendoza Line, of sorts, of Republican primary enthusiasm – was in the May 27 Idaho primary.
That’s not even to mention that, in most circumstances, McCain and Bush each performed much better than the low 70th percentile.
The Keystone State was where Romney had been expected to face his stiffest opposition of the five states hosting primaries on April 24 this year, at least until Santorum dropped out of the race.
Like McCain, Romney’s struggles in winning over skeptical conservatives have been well-documented.
Even in Wisconsin, the state which Romney won most recently and secured his status as the campaign’s frontrunner, he basically battled Santorum to a draw among “very conservative” voters, almost a third of that primary’s turnout, according to exit polls. Evangelical Christians also broke for Santorum, as did the 20 percent of voters who said it was most important quality in a candidate was that he was a true conservative.
The race may no longer be competitive, but the names of Santorum, Gingrich and Paul will remain on the ballot for most of the remaining contests. Forty-eight percent of non-Romney supporters said in an April 10 Washington Post/ABC News poll that the former Massachusetts governor would be their second choice in a nominee, but 21 percent said Gingrich and another 11 percent said Paul.
There are still lingering questions about when, and in what manner, Santorum might endorse and appear with Romney. That could go a long way toward bringing on board some of the conservatives who harbor lingering doubts about the all-but-presumptive Republican nominee.
The former Massachusetts governor has eagerly begun to pivot toward the general election fight with President Obama. But if Gingrich and Paul’s share of the vote ticks upward substantially, it could put the Romney campaign on uneasy footing, forcing it to continue courting conservatives while also waging a war against Obama for independents.
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In the remaining primaries, instead of handing out 'I Voted Today' stickers
They will substitute them with clothes pins which read; 'I held my nose & voted for Willard'!
If Santorum is smart (I have severe doubts) he would make Willard sweat for his endorsement - we need another picture of Willard & Anne doing a load of 'whites'... lmao
Here's some fun. Among all the other things Obama supports, it looks like he also supports recycling . . . speeches.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9SOx9jtpqA
Funny... as a conservative, the more the wacky leftwing zealots diss Mitt, the better Romney looks as a leader.
Mitt Romney is a conservative, else the moonbats wouldnt be braying so loudly...
And their lying attacks on the treatment of his dog Seamus , smell like 30 year old dogpoo...
That's exactly what some of my GOP friends are planning to do. What shame the Weather Vane is such a poor choice for President.
Obama/Biden 2012
Romney will have to work hard just to get RWNJ's out to vote. Never mind independents. Romney will be working on his Rambler in one of his houses for lack of anything more important to do come November.
Boob, your really need to stop bringing up Seamus. People will look it up and vote against Romney for their love of animals no matter what their party affiliation is. www.dogsagainstromney.com
I'm officially protesting against him being President. ; )
The only consistent demographic Romney has won is the richest 5%, and that is the only demographic that has increased in voter turn-out. But that demographic can't carry him.
We will probably see a surge for Gingrich. Though Gingrich is the largest turd ever squeezed out of Washington, at least he's not completely clueless like Romney. If I was a right-winger, I would choose despicable over dumb, or write in a name, okay I'd stay home.
Then there will be the real reckoning of the delegates, in which Ron Paul has way more delegates loyal to him than is shown on paper.
But if Santorum plans to run again in 2016, and he does endorse Romney, it will be a lack-luster one-line tweet.
No one wants to vote for this "PEACOCK" esp the "conservative's" and the woman and the senior's !
Oh, Etch-A-Sketch will be hearing a lot of people protesting his nomination, all righty: women, union workers, minorities, and seniors, just to name a few. You can add to his headaches the far right lunatic fringe who will object to his religion and his phony moderate politics, too. This guy is in for a rocky road to ultimate failure in November. Damn.
Feisty--maybe Romney will go around passing out sandwiches to get votes. Here in Pennsylvania he could give out cheesesteaks in Philadelphia. In Western Pa. we have a place that sells a sandwich on thick bread with the cole slaw and fries in the sandwich---he could give those away here.
Steeler Fan,
Like how he broke the capaign laws in WI? lol
That's a great idea - for the rest of the state, Willard can hand out 'pious' bologna with a heaping helping of bull@!$%# on 'sour-dough'!
His cult members will eat them up! ☺
Snuffy will be first in line & stuffing her pockets with extra's...
Save what's left of America ....
Obama out in 2012 ....
Almost $16 trillion in debt and rocketing upward .... "LOL"
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL-- a load of 'whites' would be magic underwear that wash themselves, you know the way tax cuts pay for themselves, or the invisible hand correcting the market -- Okay, religion is not a test for POTUS, but the superstitious economic policies are fair game.
LOL about the 'pious' bologna.
The only folks in Pennsylvania who will support Romney are the conservatives in the middle of the state---they'd love a "pious bologna" sandwich, I'm sure. On Wonder Bread, of course.
As opposed to tax credits, feel-good-do-nothing legislation, free this, free that. All of the politicians running for office buy votes with promises. It's the American way. Feeding a few people is the least of campaign improprieties.
I know, thats WHY we are trying to get rid of republicans and their feel-ggod for men anti-choice legislation, free subsidies and tax cuts to the richest...glad you are starting to understand.
There are more than 7.4 million working age Americans not working under Obama than under Bush.
When Bush took office in 2001 regular gas was $1.46, eight years later it was $1.59. Adjusted for inflation, Bush reduced gas prices $0.09 per gallon during his terms of office.
I paid $4.19 for regular this morning.
Scott....Winston Churcgill famously said there are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. So are you so oblivious to cause and effect that you don't understand the underlying truth behind your statement or are you just spouting more lying, repugnican vitriol? Do you remember how many Americans lost their jobs the last month of the shrub's catastrophic tenure? I do. 800,000!!!! This wan't an anomaly. The reason behind your statement is that El Shrubbo, the draft-dodger extraordinaire who let people like me fight his wars, helped set up the plane crash that Mr. Obama took over. There are many reasons to criticize President Obama. If you are too stupid to find one, you should either ask someone smarter than yourself for some help or shut up. When you just throw poo to see if some will stick somewhere, all you do is make yourself smell bad, like the other Obama haters. a shame your love for the truth doesn't outweigh your hate for the truth. The nation has already produced more jobs in Mr. Obama's 3 yrs, 2+ mos. than under Boy George's 8 years. Giove me some good repugnican spin on that.
Another thought, Scott-if it's not over your head...It might be fine to have the courage to try something new- like "supply-side economics, also known as "trickle-down economics, or more famously,"voodoo economics". But it's something else altogether to ride a horse until it collapses and dies and to think that if you just keep pounding it long and hard enough, it will spring back to life and carry you again. Raygun's economic experiment has been in use now for 32 years. If it were going to work, it would have by now. It was a dismal failure. Most Americans are tired of being trickled down on. That's not cash trickling sown on us from the Ivory Tower. It might be golden but it's not gold. Wake up. Raygun was wrong. Bush I was wrong (except when he called Raygun's theory voodoo economics). NAFTA and repealing Glass-Steagal were wrong (CLINTON). Baby Busher did so much messed up idiocies I would know where to start. You can hate the dems. You might consider that if NAFTA was a huge mistake- and it was- why did Mr. Obama enter into a similar treaty with Columbia (coke capital of the world) and Panama (money laundering capital of the world). You really need to get past your adolescent angst and use your brain. Get in the game.
It would be best if Romney would get more cardboard figures gathered around him.
Mitzy Etch-A Sketch has nothing to fear from the RWNJ's. Most will just stay home for the remaining primaries. By the General Election, they will have been lobotomised yet again and dutifully and robotically march to the polls and hold their nose in unity.
Since Romney's already assumed to have won this, that would seem to be a disincentive for people to bother to show up and vote for him in the Primaries that follow, while it is much more incentive to vote for any of the other three to make a political statement. Romney hasn't been successful in getting even 50% in most of the primaries so far with competition and I don't see that changing much with a much stronger incentive to vote in protest rather than for a presumed winner.
I actually believe that if Romney ran in the general election totally unopposed by any candidate from the Democrats, that he'd win by electoral votes by default, but still only win 50% or so of the popular vote with the rest going for write-in or fringe party candidates. This is a guy that's hard to like and even many of those that like him still find him hard to trust.
Bob in Virginia: Willard is no conservative. He is a moderate. Believe me, I know, he was my Governor for four years! He did not govern as a conservative, and his policies are all moderate, even though he spends 100% of his time running from his record, making things up, and flat out lying. We are gonna have a lot of fun fact checking this guy until November!
I find the evangelicals very bigotry against the Mormon religion. They call themselves Christians? I don't think so. In my heart I find these so Christians as they claim to be very Judgemental towards Mitt. A bunch of hypocrites I call them. Another Thing I find MSNBC and the Left cowards attacking Mitts wife. That is crossing the line. HEY! to all you idiot Liberals leave the family member's alone. I find the Liberal Left and the so called Christian groups very mean spirited by their behavior. SHAME ON YOU ALL FOR BEING BIGOTS ON MITT'S RELIGION AND ATTACKING HIS WIFE.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LIKE ASK WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE? Mitt is just as Christian as anyone else. Are you idiots going to attack the Jewish religion because they have a different way of practicing their faith? That is not Christian like people!!!. I find you moron's very ignorant.!!!!!!!
Scott,
What country were you living in from 2001 to 2008???
Gas in 2002 was $1.35 and the price of oil per barrel was $27.
In 2004 Gas was $2.50 with the price per Barrel at $31.
In 2005 the price per barrel was $72 (110% rize) with the price per gallon at $3.90 per gallon, topping $4.40 as the national average in early 2006-the highest gas prices have been in the history of modern transportation, including where they are today! By the way there was a 300% increase at the pump while the price per barrel was only at 180%.
Exxon announced $9 Billion profit for the first quarter of 2006, second quarter was over $12 Billion, when the outgoing CEO (who was responsible for the Valdeez disaster) walked away with a $497 million dollar exit bonus, over and above his retirement and benifits...
The national average at the pump went back down to just over $2.00 a gallon in 2008 in hopes of electing another conservative against Obama, prices went right back up in 2009 to around $3.00 and have stayed there until now.
You were saying???
Piegan is correct. Feisty Redhead and her friends are bigots. They the very definition of hate. Evangelicals are also a huge problem in this nation. The fringe on both sides need to look at what they are doing to this country and stop the divisiveness.
piegan - In regard to your post about the attacks on Mrs. Romney. I feel it is unfair to attack a Pres. or Pres. candidate's family. But may I remind you of scurrilous lies perpertrated by the wackos on the right regarding Mrs. Obama. There was rumor of a tape made of Mrs. Obama at her church purporting her using the term "whitey". Said tape was never produced, thus it seems logical to believe it never existed. Then there was a report of Mrs. Obama spending lasciviously on a lunch at a hotel in New York. Again facts did not match the wild rumor. Right wing talking heads said Mrs. Obama was fair game because she was out campaigning for her husband. Isn't Ann out there campaigning for her husband, then to use the rights logic(term used loosely), Mrs. Romney is fair game. It can't be OK for one side to attack and the other side should just sit back and demurely tut tut the attackers for foul tactics, the other side will just call you weak. The right also attacked Mrs. Kerry becauseshe told a reporter to "go to hell" and Mrs. Clinton for campaigning for her husband, just threw this in to point out its the same old play book for the right, castigate the Democrats families, but scream "bloody hell" when the table is turned. In a perfect world, this type of conduct wouldn't be acceptable, unfortunately we are not, nor is the world perfect. We will give as good as we receive, divisiveness cannot be prevented by one side surrendering and taking on the role of a "door mat". Just my take on this.
As a conservitve, I have to say the whole family is fair game. They are ALL stumping for Mitt therefore what they say and do is fair game. Michelle Obama is fair game but the kids are not because they are minors, NOT miners.
Vote Mitt 2012!!!!!
Mitt is a great representative of Conservative and Republican values.
He is a blatant bald faced liar.
Its funny because you will be hard pressed to find anyone that has a positive quality to demonstrate about Romney to contrast against Obama.... all conservatives do is scream what they were told to believe.... all they know is "Obama is (insert fox news talking point here), vote him out!"
Clinton has admitted as much.
Good luck waiting for Shrub to admit to his mistakes...
Of course he didn't really make them. Darth Cheney did.
TBlues,
I agree in principle with all you have said but how does the GOP get a pass on NAFTA or Gramm- Leach-Bliley? Clinton favored NAFTA but wasn't thrilled with the repeal of Glass Steagal. Both were pieces of republican legislation, NAFTA was to be Bush1's crowning domestic achievement but the Canadian election results caused a delay. Clinton threatened to veto Gramm-Leach-Bliley and the repeal of Glass Steagal and got concessions on the CRA before agreeing to sign a revised bill. The original version got only 1 Democratic vote in the Senate version and the House had 138 nay-68 yeah on the original version. A veto might have held on the final version of NAFTA on Glass Steagal there was probably enough to override which would be an enormous political defeat.
The GOP had been trying to repeal Glass Steagal or so limit it as to make in unusable since the 1950s. If you look at to whom we actually export and our trade imbalances NAFTA's not as bad as its reputation.
jkh
“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”
-John Quincy Adams
10 Richest Presidents
10. John Tyler (51 Million) – ranked the 35th best president
9. Franklin D. Roosevelt (60 Million) - ranked the 3rd best president
8. Herbert Hoover (75 Million) - ranked the 34th best president
7. Lyndon B Johnson (98 Million) - ranked the 11th best president
6. James Madison (100 Million) - ranked 20th best president
5. Andrew Jackson (119 Million) - ranked the 13th best president
4. Theodore Roosevelt (125 Million) - ranked the 4th best president
3. John F Kennedy (approximately 125 Million) - ranked the 6th best president
- If Elected: Mitt Romney (200 Million)
2. Thomas Jefferson (212 Million) - ranked the 7th best president
1. George Washington (512 Million) - ranked the 2nd best president
It looks like Romney is in good company if elected President… 7 of the wealthiest presidents are ranked in the top 15 and 8 in the top 20. History shows that the wealthier the president is the more likely that he/she will be successful.
Richest Presidents
www.csmonitor.com/Business/2012/0220/Presidents-Day-trivia-Who-were-the-10-richest-US-presidents
Presidential Rankings
#.T4cFSPm7KSo
gcoast,
You can make such lists look anyway you want. Washington was wealthy but almost all in land, Jefferson land and slaves died bankrupt and was bailed out by the federal government to avoid a prior bankruptcy by selling a large portion of his library which became the library of Congress. Absurd ranking for Jackson who damn near destroyed the government through cronyism. He became wealthy in land deals for which he should have been jailed. As a general he negotiated (often at gunpoint) land deals with the Indians for the government and was then given or bought land in private no bid sales for next to nothing and resold at profits of 10 to 20 fold. He was a gambler and racetrack owner and owned 150 slaves, quite honorable. T Roosevelt and FDR inherited wealth and both campaigned for the necessity of a redistribution of Americas wealth assailing the concentration of wealth in a few hands. (see Square Deal and New Deal Speeches). James Madison never made a dime he inherited all his wealth and wrote about the dangers of concentrated wealth in both The Federalist Papers and The James Madison Papers.
Almost all of these presidents heralded opportunity for the common man and stated and wrote publicly about the dangers of a government that encouraged a concentration of wealth. This is the exact opposite of Romney and the prior three Republican presidents.
jkh
'Breaking News'...........By filing for a tax deadline deferral and refusing to accept Obama's challenge to release his 2011 tax statement Romney may have stepped on a political land mine..........
What is Romney afraid of, why did he file for a tax filing deferral, does he have some skeletons in the closet or is there something in his tax statement that may cost him the republican nomination ?.....If I were Ron Paul or the Grinch I would demand Romney release his tax statements before the republican convention.
As a registered Republican I went to vote in the Florida Primary. There was NO line when I arrived at my polling location. I protested against Romney by voting for Newt for the first and last time in my life. If the rank and file GOP electorate are for Romney, shouldn't I have encountered a very long line. Based on my experience at the polls Romney has the GOP nomination, but general election is hardly a certainty.
If the GOP would stick to JOBS JOBS JOBS, they would have the election in the bag. The far right "evangelical" element of the GOP is so determined to stamp out "evils" like women's reproductive rights, gay rights, and the rich making economic sacrifices that would not impact their lifestyle, they have lost sight of the most important factor in any election, the will of the people.
Any figures on turnout in this year's Republican primaries? That would speak volumes.
Of course the conservatives will line up to vote for Romney, because they hate Obama, and they love billionaires who brag about paying 14% in taxes (and not a penny more!), not to mention war hawks with five sons who never served in any of these "necessary" wars. Yup, the Republicans looove their billionaires.
Yup, the progressives envy the successful.
"paying 14% in taxes (and not a penny more!)"....And I am sure Amy paid more taxes than she lawfully owed, just to show how patriotic she is.
Amy, walk up to the person the runs the company you work for and give her/him a good slap, you know, for being such a 1%-er. It would be the righteous thing to do.
Let us know how that works out for you.
Bob, a kid I know just told me today he made $1000.00 by posting a video on YouTube, and now he has to pay $300.00 to the IRS on that windfall. And Romney gets to pay 14% on money he earned lending money to smarter people. That kid had a great idea and he pays 30% Is there no justice?
Joanna Smith.
You wish I'd slap the CEO of our company; he's a self made millionaire, a titan in the industry, and major donor to the Democratic Party.
Romney didn't post anything on Youtube and got paid $0. The kid is $700 ahead of Romney.
And of course if the kid makes less than $30,000 for the year, he'll get it all back when he files for an effective tax rate of 0%.
Most are. So why do you hate them so, you and your ilk.
What about the lottery? They can take up to 35% of your winnings. Thats pretty stiff.
Amy,
then you agree taxes are too high. The kid should get to keep more of his own money! Why does your God of Government confiscate the kid's money?
"And Romney gets to pay 14% on money he earned lending money to smarter people"
And Obama 's cronies at GE pay ZERO taxes on billions... yet you dont seem to care much about that, do you?
If you want "fairness', support a simplified flat tax, or you have zero credibility.
Obama's Buffet rule is absurd, and only encourages more complicated tax shelters..
And if you're stiff, from death, it's also a 35% estate tax, but only on the 1%-ers.
JoAnna,
I never understood the estate tax. In most cases these dollars have already been taxed and after death the money is taxed again.
The point of the fairness discussion isn't whether taxes are too high or too low. It is that we lowered them on one class of income and not on another. If you think it is right to have different classes of income being taxed so differently, then you are in favor of the current tax law. If you think that isn't fair, you aren't.
The only thing unfair about our tax system is that half of the people are not PAYING taxes- and, in many cases, getting welfare checks in the form of refundable tax credits, to boot.
This is an unsustainable system.
The first things that need to go are are refundable credits- then, everybody needs to pay. Even a tenth of a percent is acceptable- but no more free riders.
Period.
The topic of the article was about whether or not some folks will NOT vote for Mr. Romney. The answer is yes. It isn't really against him per se, but the fact some will be a little peeved they didn't have a direct hand (vote) in choosing the nominee. Call it the sour grapes vote.
People vote for all reasons. Some will vote because they truly support the candidate. Some will vote for one because that means a vote against the other. Some will vote out of spite. Many will vote for whoever the other guy is because they can't take four more years of the way things are now. Misery is motivation - the same as jubilation.
Don't count out the "Anybody but" crowd. I think there will be a lot fewer "sitting it out" than the other side thinks.
Duh, no the conservatives in the party are going to protest in the primarys what a stupid question. First of all it makes no difference he will win the nomination. And then are the conservatives going to protest and vote for wonder boy, lmfao not only no, but hell no. The independants the voters that put him in office because of the economy and the wars and the bickering between the POTUS and the do nothing liberal congress, now that nothing has changed (i.e. hope & change, remember) do you think they are voting for wonder boy lmfao no. I know, msnbc, you should have another feel good poll, call everyone you know that is going to vote for wonder boy, all 100 and post the results. Do it on Fri. that way fiesty fat ass can go to the dew drop inn, drink wine, eat *popcorn* and celebrate. Speaking of *popcorn* fiesty off your fat ass and get everyone some *popcorn* : )
There aren't enough RWNJs and Mormons to get Willard his fourth dream house. Lucky for the United States, too.
Romneycare would put the US up for a IPO, lay everyone off, and sell the pieces.
I am a conservative. I will not vote for Romney even when he wins the nomination. He is just another Obama. Any conservative that votes for him is an idiot or coward. We don't have to vote for this tripe they serve us up just so the next president will have "Republican" attached to them. The Republican party no longer represents conservatism. It solely represents itself and making a profit for those who run it. Either we conservatives stand up and support a true conservative (are there any out there?) or the country we love will be controlled by people without moral direction, as it is now.
@Bob Jones-3591206
I'm quite sure that none of the prune-faced, racist teabaggers will vote for our President. But I think it's quite likely that many will either not vote, vote for a 3rd party, or write someone in. Surely , you must know that the interests of the TP and the repugnicans are at odds...The TP has said openly that it was their intention to take over the repugnican party. They have failed. Romney is proof of that. But they have succeeded in making the party so so foul and out-of-touch with the 21st century and so anti-everyone but well-off white men that their would-be party now looks much like a cross burning and many people shy away from such distasteful gatherings. Do you really think and teabaggers will vote for Romney after Mr. Obama's very effective strategists remind everyone daily about who designed the ACA? By November, it will be called Romneycare. Yes, the party of the toilet paper has already lost.
Bob Jones - Why do you hate on women? Oh that's right, your repukelicant. Sorry I asked. LOL!
Yes, Bob, at least Feisty hates everyone equally; the republicans, the mormons, Jews, Christians, the rich, the red of neck, and anyone who thinks differently than her. Different ideals = ignorance to Feisty. Which is the very definition of ignorance IMO.
You are an offensive man.
I am a very successful progressive. The difference between you and I is that I don't believe in grinding everyone I pass into the dirt for my success and I don't believe in brutalizing the people around me because I need another car or another boat or another house.
How dare you sir. You should be ashamed of yourself. First for your mud-slinging and second for your callous disregard of your fellow man.
GREED IS UGLY. TAKING MORE THAN YOU NEED IS PATHETIC. TREATING OTHERS LIKE ANIMALS IS OFFENSIVE.
the success of the 1% has nothing to do with hard work and if you associated with any of them or allowed the scales to fall from your eyes you'd realize it. It is smoke and mirrors fed to the middle class to keep them in their place.
Crawl back into your hole little man. It's' where you belong.
"The Republican party no longer represents conservatism."
Old school Republicans like Barry Goldwater and Everett Dirksen would not recognize nor support the sort of hateful political ideology that passes for conservatism these days. Today's ultra-right conservative movement is just a few sheets to the right of the nazi party these days. It is marginalized and it will remain outside of the mainstream political movement and it the realm of the lunatic fringe where it belongs.
well said,mj....
good post Sailcat. and correct. I really liked Dirksen
“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”
-John Quincy Adams
10 Richest Presidents
10. John Tyler (51 Million) – ranked the 35th best president
9. Franklin D. Roosevelt (60 Million) - ranked the 3rd best president
8. Herbert Hoover (75 Million) - ranked the 34th best president
7. Lyndon B Johnson (98 Million) - ranked the 11th best president
6. James Madison (100 Million) - ranked 20th best president
5. Andrew Jackson (119 Million) - ranked the 13th best president
4. Theodore Roosevelt (125 Million) - ranked the 4th best president
3. John F Kennedy (approximately 125 Million) - ranked the 6th best president
- If Elected: Mitt Romney (200 Million)
2. Thomas Jefferson (212 Million) - ranked the 7th best president
1. George Washington (512 Million) - ranked the 2nd best president
It looks like Romney is in good company if elected President… 7 of the wealthiest presidents are ranked in the top 15 and 8 in the top 20. History shows that the wealthier the president is the more likely that he/she will be successful.
Richest Presidents
www.csmonitor.com/Business/2012/0220/Presidents-Day-trivia-Who-were-the-10-richest-US-presidents
Presidential Rankings
#.T4cFSPm7KSo
Those figures you cite are fictional. For example, Thomas Jefferson died in debt. In any event, it is ridiculous to compare the wealth of slave-holding plantation estate owners from early in our history to the present day situation.
The Presidents whose fortunes are most relevant are Kennedy and Johnson. Everyone knows that Kennedy's father made his money as a bootlegger and that Johnson made his money by getting the goods on important people and capitalizing on it. I would want a President like Abe Lincoln, who came from nothing, and could identify with the common man. That is what we need today, not a member of the fraternity whose god is money.
You betcha he will,...Romney is "UNELECTABLE" !!
He's not really a conservative's conservative,....and he is phony as hell. He speaks very poorly of the GOP if THIS is the best they have to offer,....
....or as everybody knows - they allow him to just BUY the GOP nomination.What a sham and mockery and travesty and a joke. WILLARD has nearly $200 million, so he bulldozes the competition with his cash to bring them down.
MITT IS NOT THE NOMINEE BECAUSE HE IS GREAT,...HE HAS BOUGHT THE SUCCESS HE HAS. What a PERFECT synbol of what the GOP is all about and wants to bring to America (social Darwinism / financial dominance by the upper class).
MONEY MAKES YOU THE BEST. THIS IS THE GOP MESSAGE vis a vis MITT ROMNEY.
Additionally, mormons believe in polygamy. This will be the CROWNING JEWEL in the GOPs ongoing WAR ON WOMEN. With God at his side,...Mitt will put ALL American women in their place in the same way mormons do with their women.
I am telling you ladies. DO NOT VOTE FOR THIS GUY. He IS NOT your advocate.
Be VERY afraid of Mitt Romney. He is a highly polished, anti-woman, pro corporate welfare snake oil salesman.
The new GOP agenda is to destroy democracy and replace it with a corporate run country. This is 100% unAmerican. They are lying and misinforming to get people on board.
Be prepared to bond together 99%ers, and fight this menace before it destroys what we have built.
VOTE Obama 2012.
"Preconception" Mitt-Flip Flopper !
The R.N.C. will get the word out to the state apparatchiks, and only the Ron Paul fanatics will be shaving 10% off the remaining primaries. Mittronic needs to have more care in Tampa, where the tri-cornered hat squads will be out in full force.
It will make Houston '92 look like a love-in. Hah!
It's interesting that you refer to tri-cornered hats, an obvious reference to the teabaggers. You know, at the original teaparty, any of these people, if caught, would have been imprisoned or executed. This was rebellion. That's why they disguised themselves as Indians. (I'm sure you already knew that.) But these well-off, middle-class, middle-aged white men only risk.....wait a minute...they're not risking anything, are they? Maybe missing tee time? Hmmmm...interesting.
If trees could vote, he'd win.
Yep, you're right...Ron Paul will put in his protest at the RNC, and then perhaps break away and hold his own convention. He stubbornly did it before, and odds are favoring that he'll do it, again. ...And even if he doesn't, he'll make life very uncomfortable for the GOP. Either way, this old, "anarchist, isolationist Libertarian," will steal away delegate votes and the votes of naive, ultra-idealistic, white male college students away from Republican Romney ...of which will be nothing but good news for the Democrats and for President Obama that have already earned the votes of most Hispanic-Americans, African-Americans, women, labor unions, academicians, secularists, environmentalists, centrists, public school teachers, agnostics and atheists, scientists, Roosevelt Republicans, liberals, etc.
If Romney doesn't court conservatives, they might just sit this one out. We'll be getting dizzy watching him pivot back-and-forth!
Sit this one out? No way! It is critical for conservatives to vote out the radical leftist failure occupying the White House.
We ousted a right wing radical failure in 2008. He so wanted to be dictator for life but that Constitution, you know the document he called a goddamn piece of paper, got in the way. While Obama may not have been as grand as some would have liked his success rate is far greater than his predecessor.
Bob,
You can't convince me after last week's speech after Wisconsin, Maryland and DC that Mr. Santorum isn't somehwere deep down hoping for Romney's failure in the general so he can give the GOP a great big "I TOLD YOU SO".
You do realize that the base of Sntorum's support was Democrats, right? That democrats voted, in open primaries, for Santorum most recently- and prior to that, for Gingrich?
Actually, for whoever the flavor of the month was.
You'd never read that here, of course, unless you clicked on the link I so thoughtfully provided after Wisconsin. This, after all, is the news organization that doctors audio tapes in order to foment racial unrest- all in the hopes of helping the idol of their cult.
So, dream on, NBC! Sure, there are still open primaries- but organizing enough democrats to figure out WHO to protest vote for? Herding cats without the can of tuna.
Good luck with that.
"you do realize that the base of Sntorum's support was Democrats, right?"
You mean the small, furtive clots of religious extremists who were cheering Santorum on were all Democrats? Either you are a pathological liar, No Joe, or you're insane. I'm going with both, by the way.
I give up - she's gone so far around the bend, she couldn't find her way back home with a flashlight & both hands on her fat ass!
Thankfully, when President Obama is re-elected by a landslide in November her head will explode and we won't have to deal with darling Donna anymore!
Save what's left of America ....
Obama out in 2012 ....
Almost $16 trillion in debt and rocketing upward .... "LOL"
Do you really think Donna's pin head will explode, Feisty? I hope it is available for viewing on YouTube! Yow!
Oh you betcha!
The old broad already has battery acid running through her veins...
There was a time when her & I established a somewhat truce - problem is there are two things in life which I WILL not tolerate... a LIAR & a PHONY....
Unfortunately for Donna, she fits the bill on both!
There is nothing wrong with admitting you might be wrong at times - poor Donna is SO full of herself she, doubles down on STUPID!
Yer all right, Feisty!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/04/04/democrats_helped_keep_santorum_close_in_wisconsin__113733.html
I believe that, when I first posted this, I suggested someone email the link to Santorum.
Perhaps someone did. . .
You're shooting wide of the mark, No Joe. The christian right wing lunatic fringe hailed Santorum as its boy long before Democrats recognized him as a mentally crippled and morally destitute individual who was obsessed with turning America into a catholic-flavored theocracy. A few Dems with a wicked sense of humor merely prolonged the GOP's agony a little. You can go back to drinking your malt liquor and sunny delight mimosas now.
And all this time the old bitch claims to have me ignore - ain't that right NJNB?
Poor old tired Donna - she couldn't get anyone to believe her bull@!$%# if her tongue was notarized....
I'm done feeding the attention whore...
Changing your handle has not improved your debating skills, MT.
Just to show fairness, however, I will leave you with this
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/04/white-house-no-sexual-orientation-nondiscrimination-120277.html
So, I guess Santorum is not the only one pandering to religious extremists, now, is he.
Nope. In this case, it's Obama.
Now, hurry and figure out how on earth to defend this.
Oh- and notice that it did not make print on the site that doctors audio tapes to foment racial unrest.
Hey Sailpussy get with the program. I guess nbc didn't get around to letting you know but Santorum suspended his campaign. Oh by the way the topic was about Romney and protest votes in the remaining primarys. Also I guess in your conversation with fat ass she left you hanging about the topic. Maybe if you huff and puff and blow real hard you can lead off a topic sometime.
There will be some protest votes go to Gingrich, but most voting for Santorum appear shifting to Romney - as I expected. Romney is a safer candidate than Gingrich.
This is fascinating to us political junkies, but irrelevant. The only thing that matters is how they vote in the general, and blind hate is a powerful force.
If it were so powerful George W. Bush would not have won 2004.
At some point you can't just run AGAINST something...you have to run FOR something. I wonder...we've seen all of Mr. Romney's negativity. Will we see him deliver a positive message at some point?
(...other than how the trees are just the right height?)
"blind hate is a powerful force"
That is what Obama is counting on...that class warfare and envy of the successful will make people hate enough to re-elect a massive failure...
JohnNY-3623017
This is fascinating to us political junkies, but irrelevant. The only thing that matters is how they vote in the general, and blind hate is a powerful force.
Especially, in regards to Mittens.
Agree, JohnNY. Blind hatred is a powerful force especially today. DaNoid, in the past hatred played a part but not like today. Today, policies don't need to be talked about - just call a person you hate a communist, socialist, muslim, etc. Blame the poor for all our problems. When fighting for tax fairness for the less wealthy, blame it on envy of the rich not fairness.
Don't forget the rampant election fraud (destroying votes) and disenfranchising poor voters. President Obama might be ahead in the polls but election fraud could change all that. Look at what happened both times with Bush II.
This is going to be a very frightening election period because of people like Rove and his cronies being able to manipulate the voting process.
Bob in Virginia really has his talking points huh? Hey Bob, hilarious that you have a problem with the poor and the middle class being given the chance to actually pay taxes while you protect your billionaires from having to pay any income taxes. Now Bob, we all know that the rich do not pay any income taxes, because their so called incomes are not from working, it is from capital gains. So the rich want to keep capital gains taxes at 15%, and they want to keep their loopholes and their offshore accounts in place and free so they can pay as little taxes as possible. Meanwhile, the poor want jobs, and they are not complaining about the fact that they have to pay taxes.
Bob, thank you for clarifying that the rich are complaining about paying any taxes, while the poor want jobs to pay taxes, and the middle class, like me, are not complaining about our tax rates. BTW, I paid a higher tax rate than Mitt Romney's 13.9%. That shows his wealth and greed, dude; meanwhile, I pay my taxes, and I am proud to pay my taxes, and I'm not complaining. So I suggest you stop attacking the non working poor who lost their jobs under Bush and the Republicans, and I suggest you stop blaming disabled veterans for not paying taxes because of their inability to work, and dude, I suggest you stop blaming normal people fallen on hard times because of the Bush economy. What I would suggest is you get on your reps in Congress who you voted in 2010 and who have not created one job. Meanwhile, like it or not, President Obama has created 3.2 million jobs since taking office, and that was at a time when our country was losing almost 1 million jobs a month. And in the last three months of Bush's presidency, we lost almost 3 million jobs.
So Bob, do stop blaming the poor for your party's failed policies. Do be a real patriot and support what your President is doing to get people back to work so they too contribute in taxes. We aren't the ones complaining, only you repubs and the richy rich on Wall Street are complaining.
Since we're speculating about protest votes, WHAT IF Romney voters decide he's got the nomination in the bag and stay home while Santorum voters head to the polls to protest. Santorum could win a lot of states that way.
That works.
Not to brag or anything (What? of course I am!), but I already asked this same question yesterday:
".....does this mean Romney will finally be able to get more than 40% of the vote in some of the remaining primaries? Will conservatives still show up to vote for Santorum as an "Anyone But Romney" protest? Or will the "enthusiasm" and voter turnout now plunge even lower than it's already been?"
Considering that Pennsylvania kicked Satorum to the curb - big time - six years ago, and considering that he's not officially even in the race now, I don't see how you can look at even a single vote he gets in our primary as anything OTHER THAN a protest vote against Romney's coronation.
Heck, half the primaries I've ever voted in have already been decided long before we ever got to vote, so I've cast plenty of protest votes in my day. It might not do any good, but I still want my voice heard!
WHAT IF?? WHAT IF Obama even had a clue??
Jody, looks like your really straining to think of something to write. Don't hurt yourself.
Off topic, I know, but I'm so relieved that George Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with second degree murder.
The justice system in Florida is working at last!
kaybeetoys -
Yeah, but our resident legal expert Rob in MA assured us earlier today that the charges would immediately be dropped for lack of evidence.
And we all know Rob's never wrong..... :)
Rob is no more attuned to the truth than you are to reality, JoAnne. Zimmerman is going to making friends in the showers of a Florida state prison very, very soon.
JoAnne in PA & kaybeetoys -
And we all know Rob's never wrong..... :)
Surrrrreeee; never
It broke my heart to see Trayvon's mother endure so pain. She has done it all with dignity.
"Stand Your Ground" has to go.
I've never known Rob to be right or honest, Bev. Much like you, now that I think about it.
I sent Georgie a 'soap on the rope' today...
Personally, I want Raaab to spin us another fairy tale like his CVS one... still chuckling over someone who posts a chain e-mail & claims it as their own!
Nicely played, Feisty!
Bev - Girlfriend... I could NOT agree with you more! Both of his parents have!
But, just think, our voices have been heard and this POS is now going to have to face the justice system!
Without us, this travesty would of been swept under the rug!
♥ you GF!
Why... thank you... cocktail?
You did nothing ....
It was al and jessie.
I'll betcha Zimmerman doesn't serve one day. What we think about this idiot, and what really went down, is irrelevent. No DA in Fla that prosecuted any of these cases has won any of them since the "Stand your ground" was enacted.
This whole thing will just turn into another Casey Anthony fiasco. Mark my words!
Even if you're right GT, at least Zimmerman has been arrested and charged as he should have been on Day One.
I'm happy for Trayvon's parents to have that, at least.
I hope the Stand Your Ground laws that are being considered will fall by the wayside due to this tragedy.
He will go down for manslaughter, he has got some serious evidence against him, the 911 tape of the cops telling him not to follow Martin is bad bad news for him, audio experts determining the cries for help was not Zimmerman's voice does not help him either. Zimmerman is in deep trouble, even with a botched job by the local police force, it is hard to claim self defense when the cops say we are on our way don't follow him, and you pursue anyway.
let's hope he hasn't been overcharged. Intent is a critical part of murder and difficult to prove. I would rather have seen him charged with manslaughter. Much easier to prove because all you need to prove is reckless disregard. I'd hate to see this guy walk.
The second degree charge indicates the prosecutor feels she has a strong case, for one thing this guy was not defending his or anybody else's home or property, this was not a chance encounter, he pursued the kid, ther was intent to personally confront him. Second the jury has the right to reduce the charge to manslaughter, it is not an all or nothing proposition on the second degree charge. Zimmerman is in real deep, and even if Martin fought with him he has a right to stand his own ground when confronted. Zimmerman will likely wish he had followed the advice of the 911 operator and backed off. He is in real deep now, he will go down for some level of manslaughter.
No one wants to vote for this "PEACOCK" esp the "conservative's" and the woman and the senior's !
Sailcat-2064101
I've never known Rob to be right or honest, Bev. Much like you, now that I think about it.
Okay, Sailcat
Think again and list just one thing I've lied about.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
Without us, this travesty would of been swept under the rug!
Sad but true; let's not forgot all the people in this country who came together to make justice work.
♥ you back GF as our President says at his rallys!
I have never heard a sound bite or clip of people getting excited to see Willard"Myth"Romney or yell out I love you.
All I've ever seen is what appears to be a bunch of bored people standing around looking very perplexed.
I'm glad Zimmerman turned himself in. I was beginning to worry there for a minute.
Whose to say this psychoooo would not have gone on a killing spree? He was doing crazy things before he turned himself in.
I'm look forward to seeing Zimmerman on MSNBC's "Lock Up" serving the rest of life in a special unit.
Sailcat, that doesn't even sound like you.
I believe you owe Bev an apology.
You're right, I shot wide and winged her by accident. Sorry.
Traditionally the Republicans vote for whomever emerges as the front runner. Sometimes they put the clothspin on their noses but they do seem to fall in line like good little soldiers. Democrats aren't like that. They would stay home. Because Democrats, generally approve of Obama's performance and like him as a person and he has no challenger Democrats turn out in primaries for issues and lesser offices. In the general election the difference will be made up by independants. So far Romney isn't looking all that good to independants, women, minorities, working people, poor people, and the elderly. Will that change? We shall see but so far it looks like a comfortable lead for Obama and possibly a landslide.
Save what's left of America ....
Obama out in 2012 ....
Almost $16 trillion in debt and rocketing upward .... "LOL"
Its went up since your post.
You all do know that most of the budget is still from the Bush administration two tax cuts to the top 1% not paid for, a war we are still in not paid for and you forget we have not even began to start to pay back all that the Bush administration has accrued
Bushanomics...the gift that keeps on giving.
I think, baldeagle, that Mr. Obama has this already won if he doesn't do anything really stupid or forces beyond his control tank our economy. The real focus needs to be removing the cancerous teabaggers from Congress who have caused the total gridlock. If Mr. Obama doesn't have help from Congress, he will fail and we will lose. Further, Mr. Reid needs to grow a pair and do what Frist repeatedly threatened to do- change the Senate rules to break a filibuster at only 55 votes- or even 51. The 60 vote threshold doesn't go back to 1787. The problem with dems is that they are reluctant to meet force with force. Unless Reid learns how to ride the Senate like a horse, Mr. Obama will have very limited success. I question whether the dems have what it takes to do all of this. The strongest and most effective presidents had effective congresses. That isn't present right now and won't be until all the teabaggers and party loyalists are treated like a roach infestation. They must go.
hey there bigben, you finally realize just how expensive the Bush policies are turning out to be huh? You now have a problem when the real cost of the Bush fiasco years are now adding up? Nice try in blaming President Obama, but dude, we have to pay the bills, and you Republicans are truly expensive, especially when all you repubs did was spend spend spend and never bothered to pay the bills! But hey, it was Bush and Cheney who said deficits don't matter so what is your problem now if you really believe your party's ideology and philosophy? Don't tell me! Just so long as you don't know how much Bush really cost this country you are good with that huh? Because I will tell you righties right now, when you are faced with what is the truth of what we are now saddled with because of Bush's spending, this PResident at least is transparent as to what the real deal is, and he is paying the bills that your party brought down on our heads. Funny how when you are faced with the truth and the facts and the real cost of the republicans' spending spree all you have to offer is that it is President Obama's fault. really? Because he is paying your bills? What a bunch of idiots you people are. Truly, you can't face facts, you can't face the truth, and you all lie to cover yourselves, when we all know the truth. They you attack your President, and your fellow citizens, because now the bills have to get paid? Ridiculous and small minded. But I guess that is what the righties have devolved into. And worse.
Thomasblue, well said! Teabaggers must go. They have proven they are not good for the country.
thanks...it's kinda funny...the first TPers put their lives on the line for the country at risk of death. Today's TPers risk nothing but want the country to risk its future on a silly concept of just dismantling govt and social safety nets so that they have no risk or commitment in this endeavor called The American Republic. What a shame we're not a true democracy. These neanderthals are such a pitifully small minority, they would be shut up in a hurry. At least then they would either be quietened or they could find some weather to fit their clothes, like Pakistan, where the well-being of the overall population isn't as important as drug-lords and tribal leaders maintaining their power and wealth. I think they'd be very cozy in those mountains.
Will the real mitt romney please stand up?
The Contractor I sub from. Tried to tell me today that Fla ,Just signed up 200,000 , Inspectors . Are all Republicans THIS out of touch ?
Can you just imagine what this is going to cost the building contractors in Florida? Blame it on the Republicans.
Nope! The Evangelicals and tea-bag fellas will fall in line. They will follow the Mormon, with many of the younger Republicans already converting and joining the Prophet!
Go to this site, read what is said, find courage in yourself to stop our tyranical government before its to late... Unless being enslaved through the illusion of freedom is what you wish.
I dont know why but I could not see the link I posted so I am trying again if its still fails then something is blocking it.
My guess, is that a lot of independents and republicans will just sit this election out rather than vote for a candidate they know is an idiot and not qualified to be president.
Your guy has been President for over three years and he still is not qualified. How do you explain that?
rukidding47 - Last I looked President Obama is your president too even though you've never probably never voted for a democrat in your lifetime
That said - George Bush was president for eight years and never could get qualified
Our guy has been President taking over from The Great Bush Depression, near auto industry collapse, massive home foreclosures, cities and municipalities with severe budget crisis, 2 wars costing over 2 trillion, Bush tax cuts costing 4 trillion in lost govt. revenue. And Obama is not qualified?????? I agree he came into a dismal scenario, but with everything mentioned and more, with the lack of respect given the office of the President by those who HATE him, he's done an over all pretty good job, and can also hit a left handed jump shot
Mitt Romney is even less of a true conservative than GWB, who did some extremely non-conservative things.
Stupid question. Yes we will rally behind Mr Romney and vote for him.
Their really is no other choice.
Ron Paul, the only true consevative with Libertarian values. Voting for the lesser evil is a waste of a vote. might as well leave Obama in there.
But is it because romney is bad or because obama is sooooo great. I tell you romney is running against the modern day julius caesar. Military & political victor. Defeated the greatest military villains ever. Defeated the wife of a former president and democratic party hero. I tell you obama is not your ordinary person. They guy walks on water.
I'm not sure a party platform of ending medicare, SS, abortion, lowering billionaires taxes and letting the government intrude on our personal choices even more is going to be a winnner with independents or anyone with two or more brain cells for that matter...
None of that is on the table Rick. Thats just your same old tired talking points on the left. Not true in any shape but still said anyway.
We should be planning our victory parties as we watch Obama give his last speech. His concession speech.
Watch as hiring across the country surges right after Obama's defeat.
Getting rid of Obama, and loads of Democrats will be like passing gas. A huge relief.
Agree with Rick.......more women are aware of what the GOP/TP stands for after the race to the bottom they called a primary. He can't win with a few hard core religious nuts.
A weak Conservative is better than a Liberal any day in any way. The right will vote for him without question.
There is to much at stake here. Think of your grand children. We have to stop the bleeding of our Country now. Get someone in the white house with some leadership please. Mr Romney may not be the great Conservative we need but he is 100% better than the one we currently have.
ru: A conservative poll taken of Republicans shows many Repubs will vote for President Obama over GOP candidate.
The latest WND/Wenzel Poll shows none of the current crop of Republican presidential candidates has solidified the base of the party, with one in five GOP voters leaning toward support of Obama in November.
The results are from the public-opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies. The poll was conducted by telephone Feb. 1-3, 2012, and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.44 percentage points.
@ rukidding47 ...
the bleeding you're talking about started in 1980 with Ronnie Raygun's voodoo economics. You are correct that we need to stop the bleeding for our grandkids. But the bleeding started when Raygun decided to dismantle regulatory agencies and pander to the rich. The only people who have benefited from this economic holocaust are the rich. If you really care about your grandkids, you need to tie Romney,Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, and the Koch brothers to the back of a truck and drag them until pieces fall off. They have destroyed our economy and our nation and severely damaged our future and our reputation. You might also want to take Wailin' Palin's advice about a second amendment solution to people like Karl Rove who have put manipulation and psychological games for the benefit of their party masters ahead of the good of the country. I find it very amusing that puppetmasters like Rove and Cheney knew better than to actually stand in the sunlight and run for anything themselves. Deeds like theirs prefer the dark backrooms. Help our grandkids? By all means. Let's start my deporting the TP and repugnicans. They wrecked us and even deceived people like you into believing it isn't their fault.
2 wars costing +2 trillion, Bush tax cuts costing 4 trillion is missed revenue, The Great Bush Depression. Auto industry near collapse, mortgage meltdown, de-regulation(like that solves everything) tax cuts(like that is magical pixie dust that solves everything). Please, I am an Independent of Canadien county that does not look forward to a Republican in the White House.
Why doesn’t he just go all out, give a pound of bacon for every vote.
The failed ex-governor may be the presumptive nominee, but he still has not sealed the deal with his party's base.
Can anyone say balanced budget?
Can anyone say, 2 wars costing +2 trillion, Bush tax cuts costing 4 trillion is missed revenue. The Great Bush Depression, the mess that it created and the length of time it has taken to even stabilize remotely this economy. A congress who won't allow tax increase to pay back our debt, a balanced budget is the least of our concerns.
This looks like Romney is getting ready for a strip dance before his cardboard figures.
I'd protest the whole GOP primary! None of the GOP candidates are presidential material...they do NOT have the intelligence, pose, compassion, leadership, stamina that is takes.
President Obama 2012
I totally agree, he's going to have to rely of Faux News to do his dirty work for him with partial truths to have a chance
Of course you totally agree - you're a liberal - the funny thing is that no matter what you OR I think - Obama's not going to be the president after Nov. Why? Regardless of what anybody says of Romney, Obama can't run any type of reelection campaign - his record sucks, his re-election committee is run by 300 20-something kids, his jewish vote is gone, his younger vote is gone, his independent vote is about 50% of what it was in 2008 (if that) - true - women rally behind him - but the majority of women always vote democratic.
The craziest thing is that though I am center-leaning right, most of the country is as well as the one thing that liberals fail to see: Obama was elected because the country wanted the furthest thing from Bush possible - NOT because the country liked Obama better than Hillary.
This election will be the same - like Obama and Clinton in 2008, Romney didn't beat out Santorum because he was so much better of a candidate, he's just the one more likely to beat Obama (as Obama was more likely to beat out McCain in 2008) - the whole country knows this and the 60% of the country that wants Obama gone will do the same thing that 52% did in 2008 - they will vote for whoever can replace the current administration, the numerous failed policies and the God-awful amount of debt that this President has racked up.
As republicans and democrats, we're going to disagree on some things; unfortunately for liberals (notice I didn't say "democrats), I truly feel, think, believe that Obama is gone in November -
The funny thing: Democrats believe it too - see link below - as when democrats or republicans start to deflect on their own party publically, they're in deep sh it.
Dude - this dragon guy is full of sh it -
There isn't a conservative alive that is going to vote for Obama over Romney.
I would imagine that dragon is most likely sharing the same bag of crack that Pelosi is smoking.
Want to know how democrats really feel about Obama?
MSNBC won't let me post a link so go to Google.com and search "Doug Shoen and the Hillary Effect" from the wall street journal. The article in depth discusses how the overwhelming majority of democrats (not liberals) in congress want Obama to step aside for someone like Hillary Clinton as they fear that if Obama is elected again, it will be the end of not only the US as we ALL know it - but it would be the end of the democratic party as well if Obama loses. They (dems in congress) won't openly say it - but they ALL remember 2010 when a record number of democrats were ousted from the house because of Obama's policies that they backed at the helm of Nancy Pelosi's iron fist (remember, Liberals didn't believe THIS would happen, either). Since that time, Pelosi has basically been put at the back of the bus by democrats. Democrats and Liberals will be extremely easy to spot this year: Democrats will distance themselves from Obama as if they were republicans and the liberals (as stupid as they are) will attach themselves to Obama - as their fate will fall in line with his.
Hence - when you hear people write that this is the most important election ever - they're telling the truth. November will be a directional election: from that point that the country can continue to govern itself with bi-partisan agreements OR it will continually get worse under Obama.
Obama nor liberals understand what a domino effect is: Obama winning his presidency was brought upon by the US's distrust for McCain as he was labeled "another Bush" - the Tea Party was brought upon by US citizens sick of Obama, the gov't taxation and the sketchy politics of Pelosi and the democratic party. The next domino effect will (most likely) be the US ousting Obama - fore, if Obama wins another election - we will ALL see the country go into a depression - NOT another recession - but a DEPRESSION.
I get on liberal-biased MSNBC because the comments on here are as rediculous as the crap ratings that MSNBC gets (less than half of what Fox does, hour-for-hour).
That's right, republicans won't vote for OBAMA. They will leave the gnop first and then vote for OBAMA-BIDEN; because they want to do what is best for America.