In 2008 and in 2006 Rove proved that he is certainly not as an astute politician as he claims to be. He is the biggest liar since Goebbels. He and fox news have poisoned the political climate in this country for perhaps generations to come. They are always waving the flag and calling themselves patriots, but have done nothing constructive for our country and love only themselves rather than their country.

He is the biggest liar since Goebbels

Wayne,

I couldn't agree more - the great divide in this country began with the 2000 Bush campaign.

The difference now is, we are allowed to speak out whereas when "W" was President anyone who disagreed with him was labeled a traitor!

"You're either with us or against us"...

These people make me sick!! Yuck. Liars, liars and bigger liars.

They are probably behind the rise in gas prices.

Turn off the TV or change the channel.

On a more positive note, I was reading a blog that SCOTUS might revisit the Citizen's United ruling, under a new challenge. Let's hope so.

WE JUST CAN'T WAIT! - until the 2012 election when Mr. Obama will end his reign as will a number of liberal legislators from the Progressive and Democratic side.

It's getting closer to beginning the core process. I can't wait to hear Mr. Obama defend his record of non-achievement, spending and mis-stating the truth as he does. And it will be funny hearing from the Clowns of the Vine spinning the virtures of Mr. Obama and his failed administration.

Let's take the gloves off and have some fun!

You'll be waiting until 2016 to see President Obama's administration come to an end, winemaker. Etch-A-Sketch will not inspire registered Republicans to get off their fannies in November and cast their ballots for a rich, disconnected con man like him. Romney might just as well give his concession speech the day he receives the nomination.

President Obama in November! He is our only rational choice!

Both of these pieces are 34 seconds of rapid-fire sound bites that basically leave me saying "wait, wait, WUHHHT?" Content (or more precisely, lack of) aside the most disturbing thing about ads like this is that apparently voters make choices based upon them - the sponsors would not put up the money if they believed the ads were not efficacious.

Best tool to render a Super PAC or similar organizations impotent is the OFF button.

THIS IS JUST FUN AND GAMES FOR CROSSROADS & KOCH.

THIS IS WHAT THEY DO FOR KICKS.

THEY KNOW AS WELL AS WE DO THAT OIL IS A GLOBAL COMMODITY, DICTATED BY GLOBAL OIL MARKETS.

Gas at the pump went very high under the President Bush. It happens every year like clockwork and is dictated by global oil markets every year like clockwork. Oil is a global commodity. Oil prices go up and down in tandem, no matter the size of country or how much oil it produces.

And no matter which party. We need to reduce our dependence on foreign oil for national security reasons as well.
Chart shows how global prices go up and down in tandem: http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2012/03/17/opinion/sunday/0318-web-edit1.html?ref=sunday

But that's not what Obama and the left wingers were saying in 2008. I remember a lot of talking points from the left was the high prices were the fault of Bush and his oil friends. Remember the old saying "what goes around comes around", or something like that. Also remember "pay back is a b!tch".

Was it just fun and games for Obama and left wingers in 2008? BTW, most agree that the President can influence the price of gasoline by having a sound and realistic energy policy, which Obama does not have.

He and fox news have poisoned the political climate in this country for perhaps generations to come.

Obama has been the most divisive president ever. There has never been a president who blames others as much as Obama. Obama has flip-flopped more, lied more, and he is unequaled in his failure as a leader. It WILL take generations to recover from his policies and debts.

I would also have to agree that Bush comes in probably a distant second as a failed administration. Obama is one and done, though.

- I was not one of 'those' people back in the PAST. Today is April 10, 2012. Yes or No?

Oil is a global commodity.

No Congress, Administration or President can set global oil prices.

Chart showing how global prices in all countries go up and down in tandem:

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2012/03/17/opinion/sunday/0318-web-edit1.html?ref=sunday

**For the President's Energy Policies, go to: www.whitehouse.gov

Not only that, Backhouse, but some of these drilling projects are actually intended for overseas consumption, which does nothing whatsoever to help OUR energy independence.

rationalone --

Obama is one and done, though.

Aw, shucks ... And here I was planning to ask you to the inauguration ball.

How're we doing with the honey? ;-)

Save what's left of America ....

Obama out in 2012 ....

They were talking about another credit downgrading today ....

Great ....

America is sinking under Obama ....

Obama can't even slow our debt down at all ....

Our debt stood at $5.7T when Bush took office and when he finally slunk away in shame our debt exceeded $10.0T. Starting and fumbling two wars is pretty damned expensive, you know.

Starting and fumbling two wars is pretty damned expensive, you know.

Not too mention the bastard kept them off the books!

They were talking about another credit downgrading today ....

I haven't heard that... do you have a source?

In regards to the first credit downgrade - read it & crap youself! lol

"The political brinksmanship of recent months," the company said, "highlights what we see as America's governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed."

The agency pointed to political reluctance to make cuts to entitlement programs such as Medicare and Social Security, and Republicans' refusal even to consider increasing revenues by, for instance, ending the Bush tax cuts.

"Compared with previous projections, our revised base case scenario now assumes that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, due to expire by the end of 2012, remain in place," the company said. "We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the [debt ceiling deal]."

http://abcnews.go.com/

Feisty you know how republicans hate details like that they would rather obscure and hide details they don't like from the populace

"I was not one of 'those' people back in the PAST. Today is April 10, 2012. Yes or No?"

HAHAHA, good then stop blaming Bush and let's have Obama take responsibility for HIS actions. Maybe the GSA can make a video about it. Oh wait, Obama blamed Bush on that..............

And yes, you were one of those people and responsibility applies to you too.

Crossroads is a propaganda machine that clips and edits videos, and lies. Everything Crossroads does is morally and factually wrong and anyone who actually believes that crap is not very bright.

[Remember the old saying "what goes around comes around", or something like that. Also remember "pay back is a b!tch".]

So, "sfcret"...you're only jumping on the pile out of spite? You little militant, you...

Pretty childish, don't you think?

Bayllie.....then crossroads is kind of like Acorn....

Sue-3329001

Bayllie.....then crossroads is kind of like Acorn....

yes, Acorn is exactly like Crossroads..in a parallel universe maybe. Let me know how you came up with this silly theory.

Al, could it be that $.67/gallon of Fed and State taxes that has to do with our $4+ pump price? And which party legislator wishes to increase state taxes another 10% per gallon to discourage travel usage while increasing the State intake?

Answer: the current Dem Party who wishes to use the State Cap and Trade law to fund the 'Train to Nowhere'!

Al, maybe we should wait until June and July to determine which administration has the highest gas prices. Remember you can't compare Mar gas prices to Jun gas prices.

I will bet come Jun or Jul, Obama will release millions of gallons of oil from the oil reserves to try and bring down prices.

Releasing the reserves will do nothing to lower prices these days. We already have a glut of oil on the market. And its a global market, which the president has no control over whether their name is Bush or Obama. Folks who claim now in 2012 that the president can affect the price of oil are every bit as naive as those who blamed Bush in 2008.

One of the biggest marketing gimmics, next to the marketeers of golf clubs, is the seasonal blend of gasoline. Prices should change in CA due to the "Summer Blend" selling soon at the pumps. What a crock! What is the difference in high test vs. regular: a pint of additive added to the tank truck prior to leaving the plant.

But purchase that new driver for the golf course, you will hit it higher, longer and straighter and only give up $400 to $500 for the privledge. Heck, a few $ spent in lessons, and your game will improve!

marketing, the Democratic Party ploy; he can't talk the walk, but he can talk the talk. WE JUST CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER - correct the error in 2012.

Gas prices in this country have a huge percentage of the per gallong pump prices going to various taxing agencies, but it is considered a sacrilege to suggest that government forgo some tax revenue and curtail spending. I am amazed at the number of people commenting on this thread that simply cannot wait to pay higher taxes and higher prices for everything......"because that is how it is in Europe" This is the United States, and everyone seems to want to come here-wonder why that might be? Perhaps because people can keep a higher percentage of what they earn by labor or investment, because people can make choices with their money and how it shall be used....but I am listening to a bunch of people, anxious to relinquish all their freedom and all their cash to have somebody else work out their problems for them.

hey feisty can you guess how many Republicans try bashing me for this

LOL - now you've gone & done it!

They will be all over you like white on rice!

No worries - we've got your back! ☺

even worse is we have been over this discussion countless times and they STILL use old arguments and repeat what ever they hear on T.V. as facts like a parrot

LOL - now you've gone & done it!

meant to do that :D its so much fun to rile up the Republicans its also too easy

even worse is we have been over this discussion countless times and they STILL use old arguments and repeat what ever they hear on T.V. as facts like a parrot

One of the oldest tricks in the Karl Rove playbook!

meant to do that :D its so much fun to rile up the Republicans its also too easy

Nothing like poking the hornets nest now & then for some prime time entertainment! They sure are a angry bunch!

Bush tapped deep into the country's strategic petroleum reserve to stabilize oil prices during his administration. I wonder if the losers of the GOP will cry like babies if President Obama goes deep, too? My guess is YES!

I wonder if the losers of the GOP will cry like babies if President Obama goes deep, too

Hiya Sailcat!

Why wouldn't they?

They cry their eyes out about anything our President does...

Karl Rove is like Goldfinger or Shredder or the Joker he is the evil wants to control the world and get all the money too kinda guy. We have to expose him all his evil doings, he the guy that fired all the states attorneys because they were not attacking Democrats. He destroyed that Governor, he is the worst piece of crap in Washington. He should have gone to jail for the Valarie Plame scandal. He with Koch brothers pushed Citizens United. We have to expose him its the only way.

Hey, Annoyed.

Let's say the President can't control oil prices. Let's also agree that every time prices spike, Congress goes into a tizzy and calls for an investigation of speculators. The investigations never turn up manipulation but they tizzy anyway - so to look all concerned.

Using the old theory of supply and demand.....increased drilling in our waters and on our land would bring down the prices IF the oil we recover stayed within our borders. We'd keep our production within our borders IF we truly had the gumption to turn energy independent. We don't have the gumption, though. And besides, that would make us isolationists. (Wouldn't it be great if we didn't have to buy oil from countries who hate us?)

One thing that can be done is to get a grip on the dollar. Since oil is priced in USD's, our sadly weak dollar hurts us terribly. The dollar goes down, oil prices go up and we suffer. Our dollar is weak - and has been - because of our huge and accumulating debt, sustained zero % interest rates, our dysfunctional government and disastrous fiscal policies. Now, I contend these are things the President can do something about - if only to bring Congress together, act on pro-growth policies, and work to get our fiscal house in order.

What do you think?

annoyedperson,

To ameliorate any disappointment you might be experiencing by not having any Republicans bash you for your post, here we go:

BASH!!!!!!

Now, I contend these are things the President can do something about - if only to bring Congress together, act on pro-growth policies, and work to get our fiscal house in order.

What do you think?

Candice - Sounds like a great idea. However, when you're dealing with an obstructionist congress hell bent on defeating the president rather than fixing our economy (outside of gutting the middle class), I don't think what you're saying will come to be......

Obama/Biden 2012

I was about to say the same thing but GT beat me too it

lol Mark

They cry their eyes out about anything our President does...

That is Boehner. The posters here sound more like a banshee screech .. you have to be Herculean to survive it. Thankfully, we have thick skins that help deflect the yowls.

Hey Feisty - I merited a collapse today. That is two days running :)

Ear plugs is such a great invention

That and Duct tape works just about as well to silence people

I have as of yet to get a collapse (im probably too nice)

Hey Feisty - I merited a collapse today. That is two days running :)

Ahhhh - A man after my own ♥!

Keep up the good work - your vote totals will go through the roof! ☺

I have as of yet to get a collapse (im probably too nice)

Talk to me... I can arrange it! lol

im too nice with my words to be collapsed

Although some people just don't understand that they are being insulted by me

my wit is too powerful muhahahahahahahahaha ( no i am not narcissistic) :D

Obubba cannot bringl gas prices down, but he and his cast of clowns have done plenty to drive up the cost of gas !

His initiatives to creating alternative energy and fuels have been a dismal failure. He has continuously made decisions to hamper domestic oil production. He has crippled the Keystone oil project.

The sad thing is that Obubba has been even less successful with the American creation of jobs ! All this happy talk of a turn around in job growth here lately is just a smoke and mirrors show for the DemocRATS' election efforts !

Out with Obama and his pile of BS lying clowns !!!

Actually, our policies from three years ago do control where the gas prices are now. We have 1.4 trillion bbl. of oil, this would be enough to influence global oil prices, if we were producing it. However, we have to change energy policy today to have this effect in 5 to 10 years from now.

The estimated global usage of oil in 2013 will be 91 bbl. per day. Our domestic production was 8.5 million bbl. per day in 2009 and has now grown to 10 million bbl. per day. Our domestic usage is 20 million bbl. per day. Because, we are not a major oil exporter at this point, we cannot influence world prices in today's marketplace; however, that can be changed.

We need to ramp our refining and production capacities to exceed all domestic use by 2020. If we can accomplish this goal, then we can become an exporter of oil. Once we start exporting this oil, we will bring down world prices.

By the way, the 1.4 trillion bbl. in technologically extractable oil would meet the world's full daily demand of 91 million bbl. per day for over 41 years. If we just produced 30 million bbl. per day and exported 8 million bbl. per day (assuming 10 years from now we use about 22 million bbl. domestically) it would influence prices and last over 120 years.

Of course, there is a floor on price decreases from this oil. We need a price point on the market of $60 to $70 per bbl. to make oil from tar sands and oil shale economically feasible. This price point is still 40% below our current price of crude oil.

Bruce is, of course, dead wrong. Here is a link to a spreadsheet showing world oil reserves. The US has relatively small reserves...from one third to one half of a country like Venezuela, never mind truly oil-rich nations. We do not have enough reserves to influence world petroleum prices and Bruce's ravings are nothing more than expressions of his rich fantasy life:

http://www.eia.gov/emeu/international/reserves.html

Remember Koch brothers created and run ALEC go the the web site to be horrified. They are behind all the bad legislation, voter fraud yeh right, stand your ground, antiabortion and anti contraception, womens right they are evil. They lost coke, Pepsi and Kraft as sponsers. Do your home work they have other big sponsers we can target! Go get them. These 2 old rich guys are done running our country.

Just a few points.. Oil production in the U.S. is already higher then anytime since October 1998, so by your theory, the price should be dropping rapidly. Unfortunately, we do not and cannot produce enough Oil in the U.S. to offset the loss of any OPEC countrie's production, or the steadily increasing demand of China.

This Means that you could announce, tomorrow, that we were going to begin drilling in every inch of ANWAR, Off every Coast in the U.S. and every square inch of Oil Shale, and the World Oil market would shrug and point to unrest in Syria and Iran. You want to drive down oil prices? Only a couple of ways to do that, kill off a majority of the Chinese population, or stabilize the Middle East so that Production is never threatened again. Barring that, we have to stop using Oil for Energy. Period.

Link to Oil Produciton chart:

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Amen, Fore. You got it right.

So now we hear from the little bald pig.

uaw - That hit my funnybone. LMAO

Just as many times as I have been cut off from a telephone poll or robo call because my views didn't mesh with the liberal agenda that the poll was trying to promote.

Rudy, the oil companies don't get "subsidies". A subsidy would be money you receive. The oil companies get deductions. That means they are allowed to take the cost of exploration from the taxes they pay. It's something just about every business gets to do. It keeps the costs down. So unless you want to pay more for gas than you already have to, I would quit bitching about it.

Wrong . I am a businees man that would love the be of and beyond breaks they get each year. Nothing to do with the cost of business. Get involved don't believe this crap. Look it up.

I looked it up. The percentage depletion allowance , the oil depletion allowance lets certain companies deduct 15% of the gross income they derive from oil and gas wells from their taxable incomes, and continue to do that for as long as those wells are still producing. Some smaller companies get to increase the deduction by 1% for every dollar the price of oil falls below $20 a barrel.

The rationale for this loophole is that it encourages exploration for new oil

Oil industry executives argue that other businesses are allowed to depreciate the costs of their manufacturing investments. And they are. So I don't know what business you are in, but you might want to get a Tax attorney, oncearepub.

While you are doing that, you might look at the amount of Tax the Government makes on a gallon of gasoline and diesel fuel. They make money on the deal.

Nobody here seems to acknowledge that BP, Exxon, etc are all actively researching ways to create viable alternative energy, because it is too easy to assume and call these companies vile names, too easy to make them the evil villain. You constantly scream about the Conservatives trashing good news and only focusing on the bad, but your are just as guilty in the other direction. BP now stands for Beyond Petroleum, and if these "greedy SOBs want to continue getting huge profits" then it is most certainly in their best interests to be in the forefront of exploration of energy alternatives...as it has been repeated time and again in these threads, that the world won't have any petroleum to fight over in the future......That being said, I believe that the research for alternative sources and extending our current researches is also being funded, in part, by the supposed subsidies that you are so against.....Guess you are against the United States having any sort of fuel...if you don't directly profit from it's manufacture or distribution.

And what is wrong with that.....I already work those hours and cannot make ends meet in Mr. Obama's world of Hope and Change....And I am highly educated and not in some fluffy "world studies' type of degree...Stop thinking that you are so superior to everyone else. I really believe that arrogance and belief that you are better is the cutting weak point of the liberals in general

Please, Chicago and the State of Illinois have enough problems on their plate without getting Obama back again......We are already dead last of the heap on most things, with probably 50% of our elected leaders under indictment and serving time....Give us poor slobs a break....I agree that we need changes in Washington, but why do the dirty diapers all have to come back here????