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Subscribe to RSSThe tax debate cometh: Obama and Democrats to focus on tax fairness… GOP to focus on tax hikes… American Crossroads to begin its advertising blitz soon… Crossroads also admits that Obama -- so far -- is winning the tax debate… Gingrich calls Romney “far and away the most likely” GOP nominee… Santorum remains off the campaign trail… Conservative groups begin their fire on Lugar… And over the holiday weekend, Grassley called Obama “stupid” in Twitter message.
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President Barack Obama delivers remarks before signing the Jumpstart Our Business Startups (JOBS) Act in the Rose Garden of the White House, April 5, 2012.
*** The tax debate cometh: Given that Americans across the country will be filing their tax returns this week, don’t be surprised if the issue of taxes takes center stage in the political debate. Indeed, Democrats are emphasizing tax fairness and the so-called “Buffett Rule.” So the Obama campaign today is holding a conference call (with Sen. Dick Durbin, and Wisconsin Senate candidate Tammy Baldwin) demanding that Mitt Romney explain why he opposes wealthy Americans paying a lower effective tax rate (due to their investment income) than folks in the middle class. On Tuesday, President Obama (as opposed to candidate Obama) will deliver a speech in Florida on the Buffett Rule. (We’ve now reached the point in the election cycle where the White House and the campaign are holding back-to-back events on the same issue). While Democrats will be emphasizing tax FAIRNESS, Republicans will be stressing that such talk amounts to tax HIKES. The top communications aide to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell fired off this email this morning: “How many jobs would the Buffett Tax create? How will the Buffett Tax ease the pain at the pump?”
With tax day just nine days away, what can the country expect from the government? The Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd reports.
*** Here comes the Crossroads ad blitz: The New York Times reports that premiere GOP Super PAC, the Karl Rove-backed American Crossroads, is planning to begin its advertising blitz against President Obama -- probably this month. But Crossroads officials “said they would focus the bulk of the first phase from May through July, which they believe is a critical period for making an impression on voters, before summer vacations and the party conventions take place.” More: “Steven J. Law, the group’s leader, said the ads would address the challenge of unseating a president who polls show is viewed favorably even though many people disapprove of his handling of the economy. Basically, Mr. Law said, ‘how to dislodge voters from him.’” A Democratic polling firm found that, among independents it surveyed, Obama has a higher FAV rating than Romney even as these voters ideologically appear to be more Republican leaning. Democrats were on the wrong end of this problem both in 1984 and 2004 when the incumbent Republican president had a higher FAV rating with swing voters who seemed to be more sympathetic to the Democratic agenda.
*** Crossroads admits that Obama so far is winning the tax debate? Returning to our discussion above about the coming tax debate, the New York Times piece on American Crossroads’ ad blitz had the group implying that the White House is winning the tax argument -- at least for now. “Crossroads research suggests that Mr. Obama’s campaign has started to gain traction among critical swing voters by arguing that Republicans, including Mr. Romney, favor an ‘economic plutocracy’ in which middle-class voters can no longer count on financial security, even though they work hard and play by the rules. ‘His argument is: “The reason you feel bad is not because I’ve been an inadequate president but because the rules of the game are stacked against you,”’ Mr. Law said. Calling it a ‘dystopian vision,’ he added, ‘that narrative has some gravitational pull.’”
*** Gingrich calls Romney “far and away the most likely” GOP nominee: On Friday, NBC’s Alex Moe wrote that Newt Gingrich and his campaign march on -- but with fewer paying attention. And on Sunday, he admitted on FOX that Romney is “far and away the most likely” GOP nominee. He also said, per the AP, that running for president “turned out to be much harder than I thought it would be." And: "I do think there's a desire for a more idea-oriented Republican Party, but that doesn't translate necessarily to being able to take on the Romney machine.”
*** Santorum remains off the campaign trail: As NBC’s Andrew Rafferty noted over the weekend, Rick Santorum will not campaign today so he can continue to stay at the side of his 3-year-old daughter Bella in the hospital. "Rick Santorum will not hold any campaign related events on Monday so that he and Karen can remain in the hospital with their daughter Bella. The entire Santorum family is incredibly grateful for the outpouring of prayers and support," Santorum spokesman Hogan Gidley said. Bella suffers from Trisomy 18, a chromosomal defect that claims the lives of most children born with it in their first year. The reason for her hospitalization this week hasn't been released. This, Rafferty adds, is the second time during the campaign that Bella has needed to be taken to a hospital. Santorum canceled events in late January after Bella was rushed to a Virginia hospital when she developed pneumonia in both lungs.
*** On the trail: In addition to Santorum, all the GOP candidates are off the campaign trail today.
*** Conservative groups begin their fire on Lugar: In advance of Indiana’s May 8 primary, the conservative group Club for Growth is going up with a new TV ad hitting Dick Lugar (for voting for the bailouts, tax hikes, and Obama’s Supreme Court justices) and supporting GOP primary foe Richard Mourdock, according to Politico. And the National Rifle Association is going after him with this TV spot, which states that Lugar “has become the only Republican candidate in Indiana with an ‘F’ rating from the NRA.” The ad then shows a photo of Lugar standing next to Obama.
*** “Stupid is as stupid does”: The day before Easter and the day after Passover began, longtime GOP Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) fired off a tweet calling President Obama “stupid.” The tweet: “Constituents askd why i am not outraged at PresO attack on supreme court independence. Bcause Am ppl r not stupid as this x prof of con law.” (Grassley doesn’t hold a law degree, by the way.) He then added, “Possibility of peace and freedom for Syria gets more remote as PresO plays along w the farce of Kofi Annans negotiatios there Barack wakeup.” First Read has reached out to Grassley’s office for comment, but has yet to hear back. Grassley’s tweets came a couple days after Nebraska Senate candidate Jon Bruning attacked GOP primary rival Don Stenberg during a debate for following his daughter on Twitter. “‘I'd like to know why does a 62-year-old man want to follow a 14-year-old girl on Twitter,’ Bruning said. ‘She said, “Dad, that's kind of creepy.”’”
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Hey Kirk..Dont get caught in the class warfare BS being spewed by guys like David etc who dont understand basic economic behavior. ... What about what Warren Buffet says about the top rate? Does Mr. Buffet understand enough?
Buffett is an Obama lapdog and vice versa. Now that the pipeline is squashed the oil will be shipped byy rail. And guess who is heavily invested in the railroad that will carry the oil. Warren Buffett you say? You win the kewpie doll. Crony capitalism at its worst.
Lets see how America feel about the wealthy in the election this fall ! it will be a case of class warfare for the survival of the middle class and workers of America ! when we vote and many of the issues the republicans use will be brushed aside . after the public sees and hears the same republican rhetoric as before , and realizes they have heard this song for do many years and have seen no results ! and the fact that republican robber baron , and destroyer of jobs is leading this charge is even better of the democrats !
As I said in the previous post that you probably ignored, the survival of the middle class will depend solely on the economy, jobs and high gas prices. As long as we will continue to see unemployment above 8% and Obama going down the same path with his failed policies, don't expect the people to be so generous and vote another 4 years of failure! I guess we will just have to wait and see til November, won't we?
8% unemployment isn't even close to the truth. Figured the old way, unemployment is at Depression era levels of 15% and up.
Not counting people once there unemployment insurance runs out is disingenuous at best, but actually more like a lie. Like our Consumer Price Index.
Both parties are a party to these lies however.
With Obama's desire, and its public knowledge, to get gas prices above $10.00/gallon,looks like it will happen. But what the heck if it destroys what is left of our economy and produces an inflation rate we won't be able to live with.
After all, Obama can use his foundations for a military take over to do just that after he declares Marshall Law.
It's public knowledge that the President doesn't control the price of oil or the price of gas at the pumps
Remember republicans hitting us on the head with that when we tried to say it was Bush's fault?
How is Obama building a milatry to take over when for the 1st time in modern history his polices are reducing the size of an unneeded war machine republicans built to take over two countries?
Maybe you are blind to the fact that republicans are funding an even bigger military empire & demanding a return & escalation of Cold War policies
Surely you are aware of republicans cutting funding to our veterans by 11 billion dollars, aren't you?
That takes away any ability our VA has of long term planning & efficient operation of the Veterans Administration which republicans always wanted to privatize
what happened,,,, What has happened is you haven't been paying attention
Jim
Guess you missed the report about how the FED can and does affect the prices of a gallon of gas.
It was also in the story that Bernanke is planning to use his power at the Fed to drive the price of a barrel of oil to $200.00/per barrel.
Who is Bernanke's boss? Do you really believe that Bernanke is acting on his own without instructions from Obama who wants the price of gas to reach $10.00/gallon to reduce our dependency on foreign oil.
You really aren't that gullible are you to believe the nonsense you are posting?
I didn't read the article about it, but I can pretty much guarantee from your previous statements you've been fed a bunch of hogwash about what Bernanke is doing & you don't understand it
what happened & Jim-372206:
No, Obama does not control the price of oil ... and he is not Bernanke's boss. No politician is. The FED is a privately owned, for profit, corporation. Bush, Clinton, Obama, Romney, nobody outside the FED, controls Bernanke. Every 12 years, I believe it is, the Senate gets to approve the FED chairman, but they DO NOT get to nominate him.
what: Where have you been news wise in the last few weeks ? the president and world leaders have agreed to dump billions of gallons of oil on the markets if the price of gas slows the progress of the world wide economy ! and make hording or not put it into production a dangerous bet by any company or investor ! and could be a corporate profit destroyer ! This could be a well deserved punishment for the oil companies ! and wall street speculator . and maybe even a price freeze is in order ?
Just another little note Bernanke was an appointee of Bushs in 2006, and Pryor to that he was on the feds board of trustees ! he is a life long member of the republican party !
Jim
Since you are so knowledgeable about Hitler and what he did, let me remind you that before he invaded a country, he not only signed an non aggression pact with that country, Hitler told the world that he wasn't going to invade that country.
Believing what politicians say is like believing in the tooth fairy. So don't forget to check under your pillow in the morning.
Dude,, I only brought it up as an example to Pastor Larry of what his Tea Party governors are doing to their own states
I'm fully aware of the events that led into WW2,, It didn't have anything to do with today's conflicts.
Jim
So you are calling the tea party Nazi. That's funny considering that it's not the Tea Party that have created the foundations for a military take over of our Constitutional government. Its Obama and his democratic lap dogs.
Boy are you confused as to who is the real danger to our freedoms.
That would be like calling the Koch brothers Nazi's when the are the model of what is wrong with corrupt broken capitalism & corporations writing our laws
... No I don't call anyone a Nazi. Hitler had his own sick agenda, among one being getting rid of liberal policies & democracy
When an entire state loses it's democracy because of a Tea Party govenor & hard right radical agenda that deprives people of voice & rights it's only natural & logical to associate it with what Hitler did to take over Germany's democracy
whathappened seems a fit avatar because you obviously have no idea. Can you name one freedom you had removed from you since jan 2009?
I need a paxil
Wow you really are uninformed aren't you? You make it so easy.
On December 31, 2011 Obama signed into law a military funding bill that gives the Military the Authority to detain indefinitely for any reason any American Citizen on American soil without having to provide that citizen with their Constitutional protection.
For you democrats who don't seem to understand the above, I will try and put into words you do understand.
Today, as a matter of law, the Military has the authority to invade your home in the middle of the night and drag you from it. Then they can detain you indefinitely without providing you with miranda rights or an attorney. The don't need a warrant to arrest you or a search warrant. They don't have to let you make a call. They don't have to tell anyone where you are. And if they so choose, they can put you before a military court that doesn't follow the constitutional protections that a civilian court must provide to you.
I believe I've named a few even though you only asked for one.
Come on smell the rose's the presidents re-election is becoming a reality and that is scaring the hell out of you tea-party radicals, and you flat earth far right republicans ! well except it ,you alienated woman, the poor, the unions and much of the middle class what else did you expect ! it appears you should maybe worry about your parties survival ! many republican pundits are already writing of your parties death , this must be a real distraction ! oh well OBAMA /BIDDEN 2012 ! see you in 2014 if you still exist ?
Schooldog
You accused me of having a wild imagination. Look in the mirror. If Obama is so strong, why are surveys being conducted among the Democratic voters to see if there is another democrat that has greater support than Obama.
If you want to win in November, you have a better chance with anyone else other than Obama.
what ; you seem to be the Nile ! oh wait that's a river ! and perhaps you should maybe read a little more off the net ,and listen less to rush, and watch a little less fox to expand your horizons !
again with the correct name on your moniker. What Happened- I bet you say that a lot. What inane comments on 158.1
Doesn't really matter too much who gets elected. Your future, or people who are not retired like myself's future is pretty much set. Just like in a chess match, when a certain number of pieces are taken off the board the outcome is determined. If you have 1 or 2 pawns even ... less than I have, you are going to lose.
Our chess match is being played with finances. There's no way you pay off 16 trillion (not even counting unfunded liabilities in SS and Medicare.) no matter how much you tax the rich. Tax em 100%, fine. you're still done. Check mate, game over. Reset.
We're Greece in the making, just not there yet. Be interesting to see how that plays out. Could be we'll go back to sound financing and not promise everyone a free lunch, but more likely it will get real ugly with a lot of suffering to be had by all.
what happened,,,,, So says you who refuse to see the writing on the wall
Tea Party crazy antics & the sudden republican rush to support Romney has cost the GOP swing states
Absoultly NO Tea Party Candidate survived the republican primary --- They just don't like the false patriotism & dumb ass attacks on our democracy & old republican policies
Yes,,, Even Cap & Trade along with expanding medicare & the mandate was a Republican policy
They are both sound Free Market ideas that are great for businesses
For you blissful spirits who don't have anything better to do than call me names and attempt to make fun at my expense. Your ignorance and lack of knowledge is showing.
It must really be embarrassing for you to know that I know more about the man you support than you do. But then again, its said that ignorance is bliss. By your posts against me you are demonstrating just how blissful you are in your ignorance.
Now it becomes clear why you refuse to educate yourselves about the man you support.
Cap & Trade is a free market idea that is great for business? What business is it good for? The only business that cap and trade is good for is the crooks on wall street as it will give them another commodity to inflate and make money off of while the people suffer.
The desperation of the Republican party is evident to anyone with the smallest amount of education. You can see by the Republican post's there are no factual statements, only childish name calling and silly baseless remarks that really have no purpose in this election. I have read these post's regularly for a year and every baseless accusation has been refuted with fact there's nothing left boy's go to your local church with the rest of your sinners and hope god forgives you for your lieing and disrespect
desperation my read end - BO is the desperate one - it's all over the internet how desperate - there are many political facts but you have been duped so badly you can't see the truth - you liberals have strayed so far from the truth you wouldn't know it if it came up and bit you on hinny.
Ha, your party is so fractured that many states can't even afford to mount a grass roots effort or for mthat matter pay their bills. It is now being reported on "all news Media" that Carl Rove is going to provide air time on behalf of the states. You must be so proud that a Bush, Cheney, era war criminal is going to run your party . Good luck on that one
I have a particular beef with the radical right with their superior attitude. I seldon if ever have heard one beef concerning citizens lining up at Fema tables grabbing their free or low cost money every time a "natural disaster" occurs. Why do we have flood insurance for builders to build homes and pocket a profit knowing that the tax payer will eventually need to pay for flood insurance. Some homes have been paid for multiple times. Dont the 1% know when they buy a beach home in a hurricane zone eventually they will come with their hand out?
In 2008 we had the financial equivalent of an economic tornado. It is no different then that. Those "freeloaders" lining up at the Fema tables should be rebuilding their own home and using their own resources and not asking me for a handout.
Same logic applies.
Larry R- for a minister for someone to use the hateful language and thoughts you have Thank God your not my minister because I believe you have no concept of Christianity. Recommend you read the sermon on the Mount Larry
Talk all of the garbage you like, there is only one group, that wants the other taxpayers to pay their way.
Thats because Republicans think they are better than anyone else when actually they are the welfare grubbers
Even if we have natrual gas reserves doesn't mean we should use them. Fossil fuels still burn they still cause pollution the environmental cost of using fossil fuels for another twenty years is far far too high
There is no cost effective, reliable source of energy to replace fossil fuels with. We will be producing most of our energy from fossil fuels for at least the next 50 years. Unless some new technology comes along like hydrogen fuel cells, we will be using fossil fuels much longer than that.
peter; What no vision of the future many car companies and much of industry see natural gas, hydrogen, and electricity as viable future sources of power, along with other research and at present are investing billion in there development ! so oil may not be in the future , just as coal is being phased out !
A study would need to be done, but I know of at least three Landfills that use their waste gases to generate electricity for public consumption.
How many Landfills are there in this country where the waste gases are just getting burned off in to the air?
I don't think this will replace fossil fuels, but it can reduce the burden as this waste gas is scrubbed and burns clean.
there are several Obama political paid bloggers here - what they do is get a cute name and a cute avatar and sign up at Obama's campaign web site and they attend webinars to learn what to say - not that it's factual - they are as follows:
Mo
Dennis
Jody
Rich
Da Noid
Feisty Red Head
Ron
Beverly of Chicago
these people are on every article taking up for Obummer - they just don't get they've been duped ....
uperk; How funny ! and how paranoid you are to worry about such ! and to spout such dribble ! are you part of the paranoid right wing or tea-party member or just a simple person in need of therapy ?
Not to worry about them. They are very obvious with their posts. They even have White House staffers on here trying to convert Obama's failures to accomplishments.
Anyone else notice how often Feisty Redhead from Illinois starts these posts off? Newsvine obviously sets up those early posts.
your an idiot plain and simple stop embarrassing your family. my god i have never seen such desperation. Very sad people
Is it any wonder that our country is in such poor shape? Are people really surprised that we are $15 trillion in debt and counting just on the federal level? You people come on here and argue over Republican vs. Democrat as if that is the answer to our problems, neither party is EVER going to do anything but manage our decline. Both parties have implemented the same failed policies when it comes to our trade deficit, monetary supply, debt, taxes, regulations, wars. Yet when election season comes around they play this game and pretend that they are viciously fighting for you and the other side is just getting in their way. There was only one candidate this go round who proposed anything other than the status quo and people on both sides of the aisle did everything they could to convince people that Dr. Paul was a loon.
$15.7 TRILLION
Obama took each families share of the national debt from $45,000.00 to $122,303.00 in 2.75 years when his never ending debit crises was created.
Gee, if he ever got off the campaign trail, he might be able to find some time to resolve the debt crises he created. oops, I forgot. He will need another vacations when he gets done campaigning.
By the way, you can't build an economy with debt.
It has nothing to do with Obama, the Republicans had the ability to force cuts when the debt ceiling was reached last year and they backed down. Neither party will ever make the decisions necessary to get our country back on track, they are pushing us toward chaos and they know it. Why do you think both parties are supporting laws and orders preparing the military and police forces for domestic uprisings?
Well Moose the tea party DID manage to get our Credit rating down graded . Feel better now ? It only costs us a few more billions , a year to service that 15.7 Trillion number . WELL done .
Moose---------- sorry sunshine, when you start trying to defend OBama, by talking about some one that has been out of office for three years, you may as well just say, I don;t know how to defend OBama with facts
what; is obviously not one of them spys i can assure you of that his post are quite uniformed babel, and also he is paranoid somewhat as you are nperk ! so you could both share a ward together !
Shooldog
You can call me all the names you want, but it still does change the fact that the eight indicators I mentioned in an earlier post point to the fact that Obama has created a foundation for the military to over throw our Constitutional Government.
If it wasn't for the fact that all eight indicators are a matter of public record, then maybe you would have justification for your behavior, rather than be an uninformed or paid Obama supporters.
Schooldog - what a hysterical handle - you don't fit at all - I have 11 college transcripts =- I'm a retired college prof and you just call names - let's add him to the list of Obummer paid political hacks.
Thank you so called "Progressives." The few now provide for the many. People used to have self respect. Now they have direct deposit. For tens and tens of millions of people, physically and mentally able, chose to drop out, check out, kick back and collect other peoples money. Be proud of yourselves, losers.
This one needs to be copied and sent to everyone in your address book:
Source: http://www.reasonmeetsfaith.com (http://s.tt/15Qua)
you should change your name to waste of time- this BS has been debunked like 50 times on this website. Get real
Never has, because they're facts.
I think this whole tax debate would go a lot better if the government was more responsible in it's spending. The GSA debacle is only the tip of the iceberg on government waste which Obama seems to care nothing about, additionally Obama is focused on higher taxes for millionaires which is inconsequential. Over the next ten years the extra taxes from the millionaires does absolutely nothing to right the deficit issue. Please make this poor excuse for a President go away soon.
GAO said that there is 180 billion in waste and duplication in that bloated incompetent federal bureaucracy. Obama promised to go through that budget with a fine tooth comb and yet he has fired no one and deleted not even a single agency. He is allowing some decreases but only through attrition - when people who are useless and unneceaary retire he doesn't replace them. Hooray for him!
Hey waste of time- get this debunked crap off of here. Do you read or is it all the drudge report
The tax debate is based on a fallacy. It is based on the idea that the government "has to" spend some arbitrary amount of money in order for the world to keep on turning, and since they "have to" spend it, then they have to get it from somewhere. We are allowing them to frame the argument in a way that is totally untrue. If the federal budget were cut to meet revenue there would not be some economic collapse. There is absolutely no reason that a person, any person, should pay 50-60% of their income in some form of tax, I don't care if they make $10 or $10 billion dollars a year.
We have reached a point in this country where the majority of people in this country are receiving some sort of payment from the government, and they don't care who the government gets it from as long as they get what they feel they are entitled to. I think we need a total paradigm shift in the way that the government collects revenue. We need to abolish the IRS, and allow the government to be funded by tariffs and the states. This country was established as a group of states with a central government to act as a mediator, not an overlord. Allowing the federal government to fund itself is like appointing the fox to watch the hen house.
The tax and deficit numbers are from your beloved CBO.
Moose...
The Federal Income Tax law was passed as a guarantee of future interest payments by corrupt politicians to bankers... at the same time the government illegally passed the Federal Reserve Act to create the privetly owned Central Banking system, 1913.
We are approaching the place where we have two options, allow Obama to implode the economy.
Start the civil war.
The logic of a true Patriot. One of the few who make any sense. Bravo!
what's all this nonsense about college degrees and their meaning? I taught college around the world and I have 11 college transcripts - there are some of the dumbest people I've ever known with college degrees and Obama is one - if he won't tell us about himself, something is wrong - he's a con, a liar, a sneak, and nothing he says should be taken as true - when He comes clean, we'll listen ...
Obama, Demo, and their Welfare voters do not actually want a fair tax. A Equal % streight across the board. Their fair tax is anything but a fair tax.
All ready the Rich Pay more than everyone else and he wants to rob them blind to pay his campaign funding crooks.
once again get your facts the majority of welfare freeloaders are white in Red states read the census you moron
Unless you're under the age of 12, you should have already learned where to file government agency reports and statistics...dumpsters.
Just because they may be in some state does not mean they voted Repubican you idiot
I am for a fair tax so is the Republican Party. A flat rate tax, no right offs.
Still blindly voting along Party lines? It's an outdated tradition that no longer functions. Try thinking on your own, and vote for the best individuals.
Its looking like its going to be Mitt Romney and President Obama in Nov.
Are you telling us Domingo that your open to voting for Romney after all you will only have three choices, Obama, Romney or don't vote?
By the way I was Independant
But since the choice is total socialist blow everyones money communist leader obamanation I will pick any leader that wants to save our country from bankruptcy.
Ask the President, Senate, and the house remove all there little bonus special etc. Then ask what percentage of taxes they want to pay. Set everyone including theirs at that rate. Then determine from their minus 50% for deficit and 20 % rainey day fund what they can spend. Remove all duplicate and over lapping federal establishment and reduce their funding at the same percentage.
MSNBC don't worry about 'Tax Debates'! We, the people, will take care of the tax loophole, economic, employment, and inflation problems, along with the profiteering and manipulating criminal elements when we rid ourselves of the corrupt Washington Establishment, the status quo, and its financial supporters, and we are once again in control of our own government.
When that time comes mainstream media will no longer be the voice of the Elite few.
I just love the Progressives World View.
Only in their minds do you reward failure and punish success. Only in a Progressives mind do you believe that taking money from successful people and giving it to the poor will somehow end poverty.
If I stay an unmotivated scumbag, Never amount to anything, make sure I keep my income below poverty level, maybe make some babies I have no means to support, I get rewarded with paying little or no taxes, Welfare, food stamps, Medicare, Government subsidized housing, free cell phones, an almost endless supply of government bennies.
If I go to college and/or aspire to be self sufficient and successful and have pride in myself, I get rewarded with paying higher taxes, and possibly being tens of thousands of dollars in dept, or I spent my hard earned money to pay for school as I go. I get the wealth that I Earn through hard work taken away from me to be "Redistributed" by the Government to those less fortunate(sic) and didn't make the sacrifices I did/do to get ahead.
I'm responsible and work my butt off to feed my family and make sure they have a decent quality of life while some Welfare Queen pops out 14 babies through invitro-fertilization that the taxpayers paid for then the taxpayers end up having to give them $2000,00 a month for food, just for a start, and probably for the rest of their childhoods on top of paying for their health care, education, housing, etc.
I'm responsible and pay 10% of my paycheck for Health care for my family each month while some illegal immigrant runs to the local hospital to pop out a baby or the Democarats put us a Trillion Dollars in dept so that we can help pay for some other families healthcare while they don't pay a single penny in income taxes because they are "Undocumented". We end up with another U.S. Citizen that will be a burden on the Taxpayers for years to come while the parents collect welfare, etc.. and when the parents get caught being here illegally they'll cry because there child is a U.S. citizen and its "Not Fair" to deport them and expect "Amnesty".
Please explain how any one, whether they are Middle Class, Rich, or someone in between, who actually pays income taxes and receives no government benefits whatsoever, isn't paying their "Fair Share"?
Explain to us how you are being "Fair" to people expecting them to pay more in taxes when they are self sufficient, support themselves and there families, and pay there taxes, and have never depended on the Government for anything?
Please explain how you think taking money from people who earn it, to give to people that don't, making them dependent on the government, in any way makes you a better person?
Is your eloquent argument based on the premise that it is okay for 5% of the population to own 90% of the Nations wealth, or are the Elite finally getting into your wallet?
If I take 10 dollars a month I've earned and buy a stock, instead of a dime bag or a piece of crack, and I make money on it, why should I feel bad for getting ahead and being smart and get punished for it?
If I sacrifice my free time and money sending myself through school to get ahead in life, and I get a better job with higher pay, why should I get punished with higher taxes to help support, and have to pay what someone else thinks is my "Fair Share", for the person who sits on a couch waiting for their next welfare check or Democrat created "Entitlement" program?
Why should I feel envious of someone who has more than I do when I am proud and happy with what I have earned and accomplished?
Whats stopping you from going out and getting a piece of that Pie?
I'm supposed to feel sorry for you if you don't?
Is it because you will get punished if you do because you will have to pay higher taxes and some "Progressive" will lay a guilt trip on you about not paying "your fair share"?
Well Obama claimed his government would be more efficient and reduced waste so the tax payers would save money. Only last week we got to read about another example of Obama's administration watching over our tax dollars.
Seems the GSA held a conference in Vegas that only cost the taxpayers a merger $800,000 with Clowns, a year book, along with a number of other souvenirs they could take home. Oh what the heck, everyone needs a break from work and they were only following Obama's example. Go out on the campaign trail and then take a vacation.
What I thought was interesting was that it was reported they only paid $4.00/shrimp to snack on. Obama's inflation sure is a bitch. Gee, I can't wait to see the bar bill.
In this tax debate there is only one or two questions Obama needs to answer.
With democratic control of Congress for two years, why didn't you propose your tax reform to Congress and then get it passed as easily are you did the Affordable Health Care act?
Why did you wait until you lost Control of the House to start crying about your tax reform when you knew you couldn't get it passed?
We, the people, shouldn't be wasting our primary energy debating any subject other than how to remove this corrupt Washington Establishment, the status quo. Once we, the people, have regained control of our government, we, in our democratic American tradition and wisdom will find equitable solutions to our Nations problems.
What Happened has no links to facts to back up the usual FOX Garbage he's fed every day, and pathetically believes. Sad.
Loser.
Notice What Happened hasn't answered...
Your correct Checkered What happened is slightly incorrect. the Democrats had control of the House and Senate for Four years from 2006 to 2010 not two years.
You can't blame the Democrats though its not like they had alot of time. As soon as Obama took Office in 2009 the Democrats spent 13 months just on the Patient protection and Affordable care act. Then they spent the rest of 2010 on the Frank-Dodd Financial reform bill and repealing DADT.
Don't forget all the time they spent on the DREAM Act and Cap and Trade so its not like they had time to do anything like passing budgets or appropriations bills for the last four years.
Isn't there something like 27 House passed bills that have been sent to the Senate that have still not been brought up for a vote? What is it the Democrat controlled Senate is so hard at work doing and spending all there time on?
Its not like they are working on a budget for 2012.
I don't watch Fox TV or any other TV. Until this past year I hadn't owned a TV for over 22 years. I like to read or work on my novel. I will admit that I have a large screen TV I use as a monitor as I believe that paying for cable is a waste of money. How many channels can you watch at one time? Your paying for channels you will never watch and that just doesn't make sense to a man who was homeless for a while during one of the four times he was downsized.
It reminds me of the Affordable Health Care Act. You'll be paying for it starting in 2014, but won't be able to access its full benefits until 2024.
I can see that you are dodging the questions I asked. Why didn't Obama proposes his tax reform when he had the best chance of getting it passed easily through a democratically controlled Congress. After all, he did make it a major issue in his first campaign and promised it would be one of the first things he did.
I guess he was just too busy accepting a Nobel Peace Prize he himself said he neither earned nor deserved in his acceptance speech.
I'm glad that you pointed out that the Democrats had Control of the congress from 2006 to 2010. Guess that just proves that the democratic congress was just as responsible as Bush for the mess that occurred during those years.
We've been hearing so much whining from you democrats about how the republicans have been preventing Obama from accomplishing his goal, its a wonder why no one uttered a word about how the democrats where preventing Bush from accomplishing his goals. Oh that right, the Democrats help him to accomplish his goals.
Dave and checkered
I can understand your hostility towards me. It must be very embarrassing for you to know that I know more about the man you support than you do.
You should read my post about the seven indicators that point out how Obama has created a foundation for the military to over throw our Constitutional government.
I made this suggestion to you because I already know you aren't aware of these indicators even though they are a matter of public record.
I applogise "what happened". I don't think there is a person here that knows me that would even pretend that I'm an Obama or Democrat supporter at this point in time. I'm sorry my sarcasm didn't translate well.
It really is sad considering I used to be a Democrat and voted for Clinton Twice and use to vote Democrat for the most part.
I guess you can say I had an epiphany after 2009, started debating on Newsvine, and started paying attention to politics and learning about it.
It reminds me of a joke I read recently which I will paraphrase, and do an injustice to. so I apologize to the original author whoever that might be.
Obama is riding through a neighbor hood and sees a girl with a box of kittens and orders the driver to stop
Obama walks up to the girl and asks how old the kittens are? The girl responds that they are about two weeks old, see there eyes are still closed, aren't they cute,
there Democrats.
Obama is so thrilled and thinks it will be a great photo opp so he comes back the next day with Mass media in tow.
Again he asks the girl to describe the kittens to the reporters. She states that they are about two weeks old, and aren't they cute, there eyes just opened,
There Republicans.
Obama, shocked asks the girl what happened, Yesterday you told me they are Democrats and today they are Republicans?
The girl responds;
"Yesterday there eyes were closed!"
I want to know were MSNBCs article is on the racist comments of Rev Wright over the weekend? You know the man that Obama listened to for 20 years.
Oh wait my bad that would show that Obama is a radical.....MSNBC can't have any of that!
hey libs!!!!...have you heard reverend wright's latest "sermon"?..probably not since msnbc won't report on it......do you approve it?...if you libs are gonna make an issue of romney being a mormon be ready to have obama held under the same light with regard to his membership in reverend wright's church.....obama is a liar, a distorter, and a divider...
mc Paddy Whacko,
Got a link to your wacky cliam?
Like all mooonbat Republicans, you offer nothing execpt lies and distortions, which is how you will try to convince uneducated sheeple to vote for your candidates.
Good luck with the rest of the American Public who actually has a brain!!
don't need a link...read wright's sermon......
here
this stupid web site deleted my link, let me try again without the h t t p part
video.foxnews.com/v/1554207000001/rev-wright-returns-with-hate-laced-sermon/?playlist_id=87937