Is Texas looking to change its delegate rules to help Santorum?

According to a spokesman at the Texas Republican Party, a member of the Texas GOP’s executive committee drafted an email to call an emergency meeting to revisit its delegate-allocation rules.

And make no mistake: This effort is coming from Santorum world.

Santorum, in fact, commented on this subject yesterday while campaigning in Pennsylvania.

“After Pennsylvania, the calendar in May looks very, very interesting -- a lot of strong conservative states who are looking for the opportunity to tighten this race back up. There's talk now of maybe making the state of Texas, 154 [sic] delegates, a winner-take-all state. We would like that. That would be a good thing.”

And today on MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports," Santorum spokeswoman Alice Stewart added, “Keep an eye on Texas, that’s going to be critical in terms of how the votes play out there, whether it’s winner-take-all or proportional. Texas will be critical in the primary election and everyone needs to pay attention to that."

Right now, Texas is set to award its 155 delegates -- on May 29 -- proportionally. But making it winner-take-all could help Santorum narrow Romney’s delegate lead, if Santorum remains in the race (and more importantly, if he remains competitive).

Per the Texas GOP’s bylaws, you need 15 members of the executive committee to call such an emergency meeting.

And it takes a two-thirds vote at that meeting to propose a rule change -- that would later be sent to the Republican National Committee.

But a Republican official says the RNC is "unlikely" to grant Texas a waiver to change its rules.

"If they succeed in changing the rules in Texas, then they have to come to [the RNC] for a waiver, and it is unlikely to happen."

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Well, they change capital punishment laws to suit their needs. Why not change some other stuff around while they're at it?

  • 44 votes
#1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

Derek,

Yup ,Texans do it all the time.

Have your ever seen their redistricting lines?

Modern art at its finest.

  • 58 votes
#1.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

Northstar,

Have you seen California redistricting lines? Can anyone say vertigo.

  • 13 votes
#1.2 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:35 PM EDT

thetots,

No, but I can imagine.

Here in MN the court draws the lines if legislature and governor cannot agree. It happened this year. Lines are for the most part decent and take in the type of communities and natural affinity in different parts of our state.

Bachmann's district lost 100,000 voters and she now lives in a different district but she is running in her old 6th district again.

  • 11 votes
#1.3 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

Rules, like facts, are meant to be changed, broken, or ignored, so long as it fits the needs of the (tea) party at the moment.

  • 39 votes
#1.4 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:48 PM EDT

Northstar,

Is Bachmann still strong in her district, or will she have some real competition this time?

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

Uh, guys? I would not believe a word of this. See, the single, biggest voting bloc supporting Santorum?

Democrats.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/04/04/democrats_helped_keep_santorum_close_in_wisconsin__113733.html

I'm kind of hoping somebody emails this article to Santorum.

As to this story? Please, consider the source.

This is, after all, the network that just apologized for doctoring a tape so that the listener could infer racism- where there was none.

If they'll stoop to that, exactly how can you believe anything they say?

  • 11 votes
#1.6 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

LOL, what a joke. I have no idea why the zealots want this guy? He has zero chance in a general election, but he won the Primary dammit.

  • 12 votes
#1.7 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

...There's talk now of maybe making the state of Texas, 154 [sic] delegates, a winner-take-all state. We would like that. That would be a good thing.”

This isn't going to happen. Santorum needs to withdraw from the race and salvage what is left of his political career before he gets his butt kicked in Pennsylvania. If that happens, not only will he be forced to withdraw anyway, but he will do so on a sour note that will be the only thing voters will remember about him in the future.

SI

  • 11 votes
#1.8 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:39 PM EDT
Comment author avatarAlil Common SenseExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Nothing to do with Santorum.

They're all scared of Ron Paul.

Say, anybody see anything in the news about Ron Paul?

2 days ago he spoke in front of TEN THOUSAND PEOPLE at UC Chico.

Last night he spoke in front of ELEVEN THOUSAND PEOPLE at UCLA. Filled up the entire Tennis center.

Tonight he will be speaking in front of TEN THOUSAND PLUS at UC Berkely.

Other republicans would be spit on in these places.

Ron Paul? They chant his name. Watch the video and see for yourself.

While Ron Paul spoke to 10k plus, Romney was speaking to 30 people. Santorum was speaking to 50 people. Gingrich was filing bankruptcy.

The mainstream media STILL talks about them, and ignores Ron Paul.

True liberals support Ron Paul, an end to the patriot act and the ndaa, and most importantly, an end to the wars. Something Obama could do anytime he wants to.....but won't.

Check out the footage from UCLA last night. Awesome!

Ron Paul Revolution!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qxvqZYh97g

  • 10 votes
#1.9 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 9:15 PM EDT

Santorum, Santorum, Santorum..... Give me the anal lube, because we are all screwed if he get the nomination. Everyone is about as scared of Ron Paul as we are the Easter Bunny. How funny anyone thinks any nutcase like that will ever be elected to anything except to represent some fringe area of nuts like North East Texas

  • 18 votes
#1.10 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 9:24 PM EDT

Santorum will exit before the PA primary. Romney has started the scorched earth campaign there and Santorum can't risk losing in the home field, which he would, if he ran.

  • 12 votes
#1.11 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 9:39 PM EDT

"yeah and whiles we at it, change a them there voter id laws to keep them non-repub voters from a votin, and a outlaw them there new fangled science courses which don't agree with the sweet baby geezus... "

all perfectly sane and civilized measures ... lol

btw, i guess they didn't get the note that Sanctimonious Santorum is a done... yeehaw!! (all because Romney is Mormon ..... morons!)

  • 15 votes
#1.12 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 9:41 PM EDT

Also coming are revised delegate allocations for Florida - not only changed their date against RNC rules causing them to lose HALF of their delegates, but also by moving up the date (Romney was behind the change) they moved to a date the RNC does not permit winner take all contest. Florida will be changed to Proportional.

Washington state also has to change their allocations and possibly Puerto Rico too.

Santorum's math now says Romney 571, Santorum 342, Gingrich 158, and Paul 91. Note Ron Paul's take nearly doubles.

  • 3 votes
#1.13 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 9:44 PM EDT

Hey you religious nutjobs in the south: Romney is a Mormon and HE IS going to get the nomination. You might as well start making the dire predictions of the wrath of the Lord now cause that IS the way it is.

NO AMOUNT OF WISHFUL THINKING OR CHANGING THE RULES MID_GAME IS GONNA CHANGE THAT!!!!

  • 16 votes
#1.14 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 9:50 PM EDT

Good grief. The republicans are still tinkering around with delegate assignments?! Love those organizational skills.

  • 14 votes
#1.15 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

OUwhine

Please explain how going back constitutional principles of government and protecting every americans right to liberty makes anyone a nutcase. Apparently you have been paying attention and believing the msm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qxvqZYh97g

  • 4 votes
#1.16 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 10:19 PM EDT

So, rush

Are you okay with Romney working to moving up several states Including Florida so he could get an early lead and pound the rest of the states into line?

He is just now starting to get called on the carpet for it and the RNC is not getting it's butt kicked for not enforcing the primary rules. Gee, I wonder why they were looking the other way on some of these violations!

Just so you know, there was some jerry rigging in Texas by Obama to finally put Hillary away. So don't tell the Republicans house how dirty it is when the other house is just as dirty or dirtier!

  • 1 vote
#1.17 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 10:27 PM EDT

See, the single, biggest voting bloc supporting Santorum?

Democrats.

Yeah, like that's never happened in the Republican party... here

  • 6 votes
#1.18 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 11:44 PM EDT

If you can't win with merit, win with "strategery." It's the GOP way... and crappy election management. But hey, you can rig the election for Romney, but don't mess with Texas. Hahahaha.

DB Akron -- Did you hear? Companies like Coke and Pepsi are no longer participating in A.L.E.C. -- they don't want anything to do with Arizona's immigration laws, voter suppression laws, stand your ground kill at will laws, and all the radical far-right machinations the organization was never designed to do.

And most of all, if you want to talk about dirty tricks, check out what's going on in Michigan. The Republicans have been making laws effective immediately by lying about having 2/3 majority. But nah, Republicans are good guys, just marvelous!

  • 17 votes
#1.19 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 12:08 AM EDT

EEngineer -- The Republicans in Wisconsin are going to run fake Democrats again too in the Scott Walker recall election.WTF? The level of radicalism has become SO outrageous, Teapublicans need to start being arrested (starting with Romney and Ryan handing out sandwiches for votes).

  • 19 votes
#1.20 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 12:17 AM EDT

I hope Texas doesn't change their count. If it does, I hope the RNC does not grant a waiver.

Listening to dumbass Santorum fall for the main stream media baiting him on social issues makes me want to vomit.

This election is about the economy. Specifically about jobs and reducing our national debt.

The US Supreme Court will overturn the ACA, so that will make Santorum's criticism of Romney a moot point.

I hope Santorum loses PA by double digits. What a dumbass.

  • 6 votes
#1.21 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 12:21 AM EDT

LOL ! The GOP is changing the direction of the GOAL-POST.

Why NOT change the coach and the players in Texas as well ,this November. !!

  • 11 votes
#1.22 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 1:34 AM EDT

In his speech to 8500 at UC Berkeley tonight, Ron Paul said he would save medicare by bringing the troops home. WIN - WIN!!!!

If you can't get behind that, your "liberalism" is totally FAKE.

  • 5 votes
#1.23 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 3:58 AM EDT

In his speech to 8500 at UC Berkeley tonight, Ron Paul said he would save medicare by bringing the troops home. WIN - WIN!!!!

If you can't get behind that, your "liberalism" is totally FAKE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDAo-V9GBrc&feature=share

Listen to The Man!!!!

  • 3 votes
#1.24 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 4:22 AM EDT

Ron Paul is the answer to our Republic's woes. Ron Paul or none at all!

  • 5 votes
#1.25 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 7:24 AM EDT

The spirit of Tom DeLay is clearly alive and well in Texas. How typically pathetic.

Btw, I heard Ron Paul is currently off sipping boat drinks in the Bahamas...

  • 9 votes
#1.26 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 9:54 AM EDT

State level Republicans of late show a remarkable disdain for democracy. Now we all know what they really mean when they talk about "state's rights". If only they were as focused on people's rights instead.

  • 4 votes
#1.27 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 10:08 AM EDT

Northstar, you don't have to imagine the CA lines. They're right here: http://wedrawthelines.ca.gov/maps-final-draft-congressional-districts.html

Redrawn this year for the first time by a non-partisan commission.

Contrast that to neighboring Arizona where they also had an independent committee redraw the lines, but then when the Republican power brokers didn't like them, they had their arch-cronie Jan Brewer try to throw them out. The courts determined that she and the Republican Senate had overstepped their bounds, trumping up charges to support a politically motivated attack.

Democrats are guilty of electoral chicanery at times, but one cannot pretend that there is parity between the parties on this issue at least.

  • 5 votes
#1.28 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 10:19 AM EDT

Well, they change their laws to make it easier to execute retarded people, and now they want to change their laws to make it easier to elect...

  • 5 votes
#1.29 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

That guy that destroyed our country is from Texas "W" Lets not make another mistake like that again !

  • 7 votes
#1.30 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 10:26 AM EDT

Well, they gotta do something, or else the Christian conservatives in this country are screwed: either vote for the Mormon or let the black guy win! I don't think there'll be a big turn-out in the South this year...

  • 1 vote
#1.31 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:47 PM EDT

Alil common sense

Nothing inflamitory in your post 1.9 only truth but it is collapsed. Guess it is true some people can't handle the truth. It is true they have tried to change the rules everywhere Ron Pual is expected to do well.

Funny how the delegate "math" is working too. Every news outloet posting bogus numbers that make is look like Ron Pual has about 1/5th the true number of delegates. They still won't give him the popular vote win in the Virgin Islands either, if you look at ANY news outlet it says"still processing" yet they call a winner in every other state with less than 10% of the vote in. With what went on in Missouri it is obvious they are not even trying to hide the fraud any more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94XumhCBkTM

    #1.32 - Mon Apr 9, 2012 9:45 AM EDT
    Reply

    Isn't it a standard Republican strategy to rewrite election rules when they don't like the way the election is leaning? How many districts were redrawn 2 years ago to give the Republicans the advantage that allowed them to take the House of Representatives?

    • 31 votes
    Reply#2 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:11 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarspider-737231Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Why do you care....or are you thinking about voting Republican, Keith?

    • 3 votes
    #2.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

    May wife and I will vote Santorum in the Republican primary, then Obama in the election.

    • 32 votes
    #2.2 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

    I can answer your question, Keith.

    None.

    Districts can only be redrawn after the Census report. That report? Did not come out until AFTER the election.

    Nice conspiracy theory, though. Too bd it's so easy to disprove.

    • 6 votes
    #2.3 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

    Actually, Texas was supposed to be last Tuesday. But Eric Holder involved himself in the voter ID law, forcing them to move. Since the date was not final they had every right to change whatever they pleased.

    I think the worst thing is the media misrepresentation of how the Republicans. Example: Wisconsin was being billed by the news media as WTA when it was WTAS/D meaning Winner of the state takes all the statewide delegates and The winner of each district takes all of the district's delegates.

    • 1 vote
    #2.4 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 9:49 PM EDT

    Actually DB, the election time was changed because the Republican legislator in Texas redrew the districts and a Federal Judge said no, no. So it has been delayed until they can get their districts right. Holder had nothing to do with it.

    • 13 votes
    #2.5 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 8:30 AM EDT

    @Verno, DB stated that it was due to Holder's action on the voter ID law. However, it was due to the redistricting issue that the vote had to be delayed after a federal court struck down the plan submitted by the republican controlled legislature. The result still will create more republicans in Congress from the state of Texas.

    • 3 votes
    #2.6 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 9:45 AM EDT

    And here I was thinking Texas was already 100% TeaPublican. Go figure...

    • 8 votes
    #2.7 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 10:00 AM EDT

    Dudogger....think again! I am a Texan, an Independent and I voted for Hillary Clinton in the last primary here and would have voted for her in the election in 2008...I did not and will not vote for Obama (I read up on him) Held my nose and voted for McCain. I will vote for Romney in the Primaries here on May 29th. I do not like the far right just as much as I dislike the far left!

    • 2 votes
    #2.8 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 10:28 AM EDT

    Nancy, you read up on Obama? Pray tell, what did you read that apparently few others did?

    • 5 votes
    #2.10 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

    How many days is MSNBC going to run the same story??? It's totally meaningless now just like it was when they initially ran the story---Santorum isn't going to have enough delagates no matter what Texas does.

      #2.11 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 10:40 AM EDT

      Why not? The texass school board, probably the stupidest organization in the country, has repeatedly tried to change history to benefit Mr. Frothy Brown Stuff.

        #2.12 - Mon Apr 9, 2012 8:25 PM EDT
        Reply

        I seem to recall a few years ago when members of the Texas state legislature left the state because of some shenanigans and now this. No one should be surprised.

        Texas, home of Rick Perry and G.W.Bush, and Ron Paul what a state what a screwed up state. I really feel sorry for the people living there, well maybe not after all they elected those idiots.

        • 22 votes
        Reply#3 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:12 PM EDT
        Comment author avatarspider-737231Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Screwed up are they, eagle? Somehow, I betting that the people of who reside in your "progressive" state (whichever one it is) would be happy to exchange current economies with Texas and its thriving job market!

        • 4 votes
        #3.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:29 PM EDT

        JOB Market? LOL Texas excels at giving folks an opportunity to work for the bureaucracy (paid by the Federal Government) and working at Walmart as a part timer. Your web just caught you spider! LOL

        • 23 votes
        #3.2 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

        Every large urban county in Texas voted for Obama in 2008.

        • 11 votes
        #3.3 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:15 PM EDT

        Santorum can win Texas in a primary but he has no chance in the general.

        • 12 votes
        #3.4 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:28 PM EDT

        That's why I'm voting for Santorum in the Texas primary and Obama in the election.

        • 18 votes
        #3.5 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:49 PM EDT

        Those were DEMOCRATS who fled the state so they could stalemate legislation they didn't like; very mature of them...

        • 2 votes
        #3.6 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 8:20 PM EDT

        Kevin off site.

        Polls show Santorum taking almost all the states in May.

        Santorum 6-8, Romney 4 and Gingrich 2-4

        If Gingrich steps aside - Santorum gets at least 8.

          #3.7 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 9:57 PM EDT

          sam- you are lucky you live in an open primary state. Closed primaries are the pits.

          • 3 votes
          #3.8 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 10:28 PM EDT

          Your recollection is impaired. It was Democrats that left the state to avoid the redistricting. Because, like Democrat leadership in every state, they have no spine nor ethics. They must goose-step with Harry, Nancy, and Planned Parenthood.

          • 2 votes
          #3.9 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 9:33 AM EDT

          Or crawl between Tom DeLay's cheeks.

          • 6 votes
          #3.10 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 10:02 AM EDT

          You do know the ones that left were Democrats right?

          • 1 vote
          #3.11 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 10:30 AM EDT

          Daryl, when was the last time that Harry Reid, a Mormon from a conservative state, voted against the Democrat liberal agenda? That IS a goose-stepping.

          • 1 vote
          #3.13 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 12:52 PM EDT
          Reply

          Hopefully. The more delegates to Santorum the better. I wonder what Romney will have to bargain with him for ... bibles everywhere?

          Looking forward to the free entertainment the GOP will provide when debating Obama in the upcoming months.

          • 17 votes
          Reply#4 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:13 PM EDT
          Comment author avatarspider-737231Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          I actually agree with you, bigpicture! Listening to Obama try to defend his abject failure of a presidency when the questions are coming from an intelligent opponent instead of a fawning media puke will indeed be amusing. It'll be like watching a gunfight where only one guy has any ammunition.

          • 1 vote
          #4.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:33 PM EDT

          spider are you one of thous annoying trolls that have no life and have to be so degrading because you want to feel superior

          ill tell you this it isn't working

          you should get out more and actully see how people feel about the election instead of repeating what you heard off the T.V.

          • 20 votes
          #4.2 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

          What a sad, small person you are spider.

          • 15 votes
          #4.3 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

          Spider, no matter how many times you repeat the lie that Obama has not accomplished amazing things given the negative fat-cats he has had to deal with, anyone with an IQ over 90 can see you are a complete fool. Of course, we do not expect you to understand how deceived you are, but we can see through your script.

          Scriptures and phony numbers will not have a chance against an intelligent debater like Obama. LOL

          • 19 votes
          #4.4 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

          Spider: the GOP is noted for choosing candidates for various offices without bothering to see if they have what it takes to be in the office. Examples: Christine Odonnell, Sarah Palin, oh, i know theres a third one, if I could just remember it... ooops.....

          .

          .

          .

          Oh, yeah, Rick Perry..... the fine Texas governor.

          • 23 votes
          #4.5 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:58 PM EDT

          dirp - sometimes they are thrilled to have something other than thin air. A few years there was a republican put up for city council seat. From reading her own writing describing what she wanted to do with the office, it was clear she had no idea what the positions was about. Voted for the green party candidate rather than vote for the machine or a candidate the would be an total embarrasment.

          • 1 vote
          #4.6 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 10:33 PM EDT

          tex - I agree. He has accomplished more than so many other politicians. Somehow with one hand he offers a piece of candy to people while kicking them in the but with both feet at the same time and still stays popular. I'm still worried about what that free hand is taking that I don't know about yet.

            #4.7 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 10:36 PM EDT

            Actually, I suspect that's your own hand rummaging around down there.

            • 4 votes
            #4.8 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 10:05 AM EDT
            Reply

            Yep, when you don't like the rules, change them. And if you can't change them, ignore them. That's the Texas GOP way.

            • 20 votes
            Reply#5 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:17 PM EDT

            ...sounds a lot like Florida to me....

            • 12 votes
            #5.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

            yeah,

            Indeed, Floridians like to change and/or ignore party rules. We did it in '08 and it appears we are going to try it again.

            • 15 votes
            #5.2 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

            They Have been changing the rules everywhere they think Ron Paul will do well. They are scared to death of the thought that an honest man that can't be bought could win.

            • 5 votes
            #5.3 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:49 PM EDT

            commander

            Texas was forced to withdraw because Eric Holder took exception to their Voter ID law. Because Texas had to move it, they had every right to change the selection method. Texas by changing may have just made itself the state that decides who wins because of it. Romney was able to turn Wisconsin, I'm certain he will dump millions of negative adds in Texas.

            Many of the Primary date changes was Romney's doings, not the RNC. The RNC did botch enforcement of the rules on several of the states.

            Really you shouldn't be too upset with Romney. Ron Paul typically stuffed the CPAC ballot box annually by buying enough tickets to the convention to win the CPAC straw and handing them to loyal supporters. 2011 saw Romney out buy Ron Paul.

            • 2 votes
            #5.4 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 10:47 PM EDT

            And they always have their last resort for help in "GOD" to serves them well.

            The Supreme Court Justices.

            • 6 votes
            #5.5 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 2:19 AM EDT

            All of those Ron Paul supporters sure are passionate, and by "all" I mean both of them.

            • 10 votes
            #5.6 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 2:24 AM EDT
            Reply

            This issue should only concern Republicans, although Texas electoral votes will go to whichever Republican is on the ballot anyways. And of course you liberally minded people will always resort to name calling especially where Texas is concerned.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#6 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:17 PM EDT

            where is the name calling?

            and why is texas conservative again? I find it hillarious that the most liberal voting states, take up the LEAST amount of government assitance. shocking, republicans being hyporcrites. oops, sorry for the name calling.

            • 19 votes
            #6.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

            the bigpicture,

            Can you say California?

            • 2 votes
            #6.2 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

            You know, the GOP keeps changing its rules on how they are going to award delegates (just ask some Ron Paul supporters about it), so why shouldn't Mr. Santorum try to get in on the act?

            • 8 votes
            #6.3 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

            Hey, D McMillen, most of the Texans I know relish in the fact that intelligent people think of them as white trash, stupid, red necks who spend more time throwing beer bottles at road signs than reading. In fact, if you called nine out of ten of them a human being, they would try to rip your throat out! They don't cotton to those multi-sylabic words very much. Well, maybe if you whispered "barbecue" at the local bar, you might not get your head crushed! Get out more!

            • 6 votes
            #6.4 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

            "This issue should only concern Republicans"

            My wife and I are Democrats. We will be voting for Rick Santorum in the Texas Republican primary, then voting for Obama in the election.

            Democracy should concern everyone.

            • 13 votes
            #6.5 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:08 PM EDT

            Every large urban county in Texas was blue in 2008. Dallas, San Antonio, Houston, Austin, and El Paso all went for Obama in 2008 and probably will again.

            The Republicans took the trailer park vote. We have a lot of them.

            • 15 votes
            #6.6 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

            well sam, that just means that you are afraid to have Obama go against Romney. And I voted for Obama last election too. I wised up. and tex2c2, maybe that's because you spend too much time at bars, ya think?

              #6.7 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 10:13 PM EDT

              thetotas ... I'm not sure what your comment is supposed to mean. But, California is a net contributor, not a net recipient, of federal dollars.

              • 1 vote
              #6.8 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 8:28 PM EDT

              I'm in Texas myself, and most of the people I know are either slight left or straight out centralist. Texas's 'conservative' leaning comes mostly from our rural areas. Most Texans are smart (well maybe not so much with all that Rick Perry has done to ruin our education) people, its just those pesky sterotypes that get us, and I will just throw this out there. I will vote Ron Paul if he makes it, but if not, I will go for Obama.

              • 1 vote
              #6.9 - Sun Apr 8, 2012 1:25 AM EDT

              Sam--If you and your wife are democrats, you have no business voting in a Republican primary.

                #6.10 - Sun Apr 8, 2012 6:58 PM EDT

                If Sam's primary was like that in Illinois, there were other offices to vote for - if you asked for a Democratic ballot, for example, President Obama's name was on the ballot. In our county as well as statewide Democrats and Republicans received votes in all offices.

                  #6.11 - Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:23 AM EDT
                  Reply

                  Great...more Republican fuzzy math...and you expect us to trust you to run this nation?

                  • 17 votes
                  Reply#7 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

                  It's funny to see how Republicans have to change the rules every other election just so they can get votes

                  • 13 votes
                  #7.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

                  ....that's why they ain't so big on edjumacation....

                  • 15 votes
                  #7.2 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

                  I do remember Hitler burned all books that contradicted him that way he could control the uneducated mass

                  I do remember a small controversy a few years back about how Texas wanted to change the history books.

                  very suspicious isn't it

                  • 15 votes
                  #7.3 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:58 PM EDT

                  They hate Thomas Jefferson and all that separation of church and state stuff in Texas.

                  • 17 votes
                  #7.4 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

                  im a christian and I believe in separation of church and state it is a absolute necessity for our country because of the diversity we have

                  if anyone says differently they are clueless

                  • 15 votes
                  #7.5 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

                  But you all fail to mention the fuzziest math of all!

                  How in the hell is Obama responsible for the economic crash that was clearly Bush's fault! You remember, right after Obama was elected, somehow the economic downturn was his fault! Until the american public wouldn't accept this lie, then it was, well, it wasn't his fault, buuut...

                  BS!!! We know who to blame for our current economic mess! Are we gonna put them back in power?

                  • 7 votes
                  #7.6 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 11:53 PM EDT

                  Not a chance, bubba.

                  • 5 votes
                  #7.7 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 10:08 AM EDT

                  Annoyedperson--are you naming yourself The Authority? You do know that "the separation of church and state is not in the Constitution, but in Thomas Jefferson's writing?

                    #7.8 - Sun Apr 8, 2012 7:00 PM EDT

                    Jean your statement is just not true. In fact the Baptist insisted on the separation of church and state.

                      #7.9 - Sun Apr 8, 2012 11:13 PM EDT
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                      Well, look at who is governor of TX. The economy is pretty good here, but then we do have a bunch of oil in the ground, in spite of those running the government here.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#8 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

                      We also have the dreaded "death panels", signed into law by governor "sanctity of life" himself....

                      http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/03/24/3833274/texas-has-had-death-panels-since.html

                      • 7 votes
                      #8.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:04 PM EDT
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                      Isn't this the entire basis of the republican party? Make the rules until it's no longer convenient to follow them then change them to favor your new position and pretend it's been like that all along?

                      • 17 votes
                      Reply#9 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

                      There is a word in the dictionary that describes the republican party well

                      Hypocrite: one who professes beliefs and opinions that he or she does not hold in order to conceal his or her real feelings or motives,

                      Hypocrisy involves the deception of others and is thus a lie,

                      who pretends to hold beliefs, or whose actions are not consistent with their claimed beliefs

                      fits the republicans very well

                      (i am so going to be blasted by the Right wing for this)

                      • 17 votes
                      #9.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:46 PM EDT

                      annoyed, of course you will be blasted, that is all they can do, spout lies and confusion because they cannot think for themselves. The right wing of America is doing the best it can to drag the concept of intelligent choices into the toilet with them. My bet is that they will not succeed anymore than Hitler did! The saddest part of this story is that they have been duped into believing in a political ideology that is in direct opposition to their own interests. LOL, it is truly amazing what ignorance and stupidity can create.

                      • 15 votes
                      #9.2 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

                      My bet is that they will not succeed anymore than Hitler did!

                      Your analogy is not very reassuring, tex2c2. Hitler convinced an entire nation to follow him to its utter destruction and dismemberment, devastating a continent in the process.

                        #9.3 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 8:33 PM EDT

                        Time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future. The learned GOP usually find themselves equipped to live in a world that no longer exists.
                        Always remember that the future comes one day at a time,finish each day and be done with it.

                        You have done what you could,since many blunders and absurdities have crept in,forget them as what you should do, you shall begin it ,start on this November,serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your past , but only this time seriously wants to burial the past that consists of nonsense ideologies.

                        One of the most tragic things I know about GOP's nature is that,they tends to put on living of the past. They are, all dreaming of some sort past magical of 1950s ,The dreamers are all dreaming the past magical rose garden over the horizon.

                        Those dreamers cynic are not merely one that reads for the better past But the learned bitter lessons of the past, they truly the one who prematurely be disappointed in the future.

                        • 2 votes
                        #9.4 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 10:11 PM EDT
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                        I urge all Texas Democrats to vote for Santorum in the Texas Republican Primary.

                        My wife and I will both be voting for Santorum, then voting for Obama.

                        • 16 votes
                        Reply#10 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

                        Now there is a thought. The only scary thing about Santorum is that he actually believes what he is saying. Romney doesn't believe in anything.

                        • 9 votes
                        #10.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

                        Be cautious with your ballot, Sam. As you will remember, it was the Republicans who advocated for crossover voting in the Democratic primaries in 2008 ~ "vote for Obama and derail the Hillary Express." Well, they did and Obama got the nomination then waxed the floor with Johnny and Sarah. Sometimes we do get what we wish for ~ but I have no concept of how anyone could vote for Santorum even if you knew he would be crucified in the general.

                        • 1 vote
                        #10.2 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 9:14 PM EDT
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                        Just in time for the 100th anniversary, Santorum is re-arranging the deck chairs of his own personal Titanic...and the band played on.

                        • 10 votes
                        Reply#11 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:07 PM EDT

                        Now I'm going to have that song in my head all evening!

                        Gotta give Rick credit for not bowing down to the Romney campaign.

                        Now that the weather is getting better, wonder what he will replace the vest with?

                        • 4 votes
                        #11.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:35 PM EDT
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                        I have never seen a party so desperate to lose an election as the current Republican party.

                        • 13 votes
                        Reply#12 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

                        Hey Sam 298381, We get the point already!!! Your voting for Sanitarium in the primary to assure an O'Bummer victory in November. All I can say is YOU'LL BE
                        SORRY if that happens!!! Don't come to me in three more years crying and complaining about your problems.

                        ROMNEY IN NOVEMBER 2012!!!!!

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#13 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:37 PM EDT

                        Actually, it's a win/win for me. If Santorum gets the nomination, Obama is a lock.

                        If Romney wins, we get the closest thing to a Democrat that exists in the Republican party. The tea party got kicked to the curb by the country club wing of the GOP, just the way Karl Rove planned. You've been usefull teabirthers, now be quiet while the grown ups run things.

                        • 14 votes
                        #13.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:54 PM EDT

                        Romney sucks

                        • 2 votes
                        #13.2 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 10:28 PM EDT
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                        Why not change the rules to suit texas politics? This is nothing new, texas is one of the most corrupt, racists states in the union and they have had a lot of corrupt politicans representing the good old white republicans. 3 politicans from the same family are responsible for the death of millions of people all over the world. Please secede from the Union and take all the radical politicans from the republican party with you. Become your own country then the rest of us will have a place to practice with our drones.

                        • 10 votes
                        Reply#14 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:49 PM EDT

                        All the cities in Texas voted for Obama in 2008. The hillbillies voted for McCain. Unfortunately, we have a lot of hillbillies.

                        • 12 votes
                        #14.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 6:56 PM EDT
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                        Hehe. Thank you Texas Republicans on this latest assault on the concept of free and fair elections in a representative democracy.. Clearly gerrymandering and vote suppression were insufficient for your purposes. We all needed something to remind us just how fortunate we are not to live in corrupt and authoritarian one-party states with jerryrigged elections, like China, Russia and, apparently, the Lone Star State.

                        Oh, and Republicans, Leninism is a real winner of a way to run an American political party. Screen your candidates for ideological purity and then use commisar-like local political goon squads to ensure their election... You know, you'd make it easier on yourselves and save yourself both disgrace and money by simply foregoing your primaries altogether and simply have your corporate and clerical sponsors hash it out and annoint your leaders at closed party congresses at the remote TX ranches of your key donors. Poison and purges could substitute for whatever it is you do today. That would at least be less embarrassing... And less damaging to our national political culture.

                        Meanwhile, I will humbly petition my state's legislators to offer to send election monitors to yours.

                        • 7 votes
                        Reply#15 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 7:11 PM EDT

                        My observation is that Romney is JUST AS liberal as Obama. He got elected in Massachusetts, didn't he? This election will be like 2 Democrats running. Big joke on the Republicans.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#16 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 7:17 PM EDT

                        Isn't it cheating to change the rules after something starts? Of course it's not like it hasn't been done before in politics but still, how do you do that with a straight face?

                        • 4 votes
                        Reply#17 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 7:27 PM EDT

                        TEXAS is a GOOD OLD BOY southern state swayed by money and connections, anything is possible, anytime, as long as the GOOD OLD BOYS will benefit.

                        • 10 votes
                        Reply#18 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

                        You're wasting your time Texas, it's over. Let's focus on the more important job - removing the incompetent Obama from office.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#19 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 8:01 PM EDT

                        LOL, Republicans cannot even have a primary without cheating themselves, Whats next? Latino Conservatives votes only count on odd days of the month? Female Conservatives can only vote on the second Tuesday of every third month? Why not just change the rules completely and give ALL of the votes to the RNC to apply where they think their needed?

                        Many States actually spent millions running the primary only to be told their votes do not count and it will be decided by Caucus at a later date,,,,,,,No worries though, The old fat white guy vote will be moved up to the front and will be counted as many times as is needed to get the "RIGHT" result.

                        • 11 votes
                        Reply#20 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 8:05 PM EDT

                        Many States actually spent millions running the primary only to be told their votes do not count and it will be decided by Caucus at a later date,,,,,,,

                        Bo you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Caucus states always hold a popular vote they do this in the Democratic primary too. You obviously don't understand the process for cacus states. That being said though, they have been pulling a lot of shady stuff to make sure Romney wins the primary. I will not be happy if Texas changes their primary to winner take all, that is akin to more fixing, and what went on in Iowa, Maine Missouri is totally shameful.

                        • 1 vote
                        #20.1 - Mon Apr 9, 2012 9:32 AM EDT
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                        The Repubs are going to move the end zone because they know Mitt ain't got a snowballs chance in hell of beating Obama. But, their strategy simply puts an extremist in the hot seat as they hope the religious right will make their day.

                        Either way, this is a loosing proposition. Neither candidate is bringing anything to the table worthy of a leadership position. Mitt has got plane loads of baggage, while Ricky is all caught up in dragging his cross around.

                        As for Texas... Rick Perry has got to be the biggest jackass this side of the Mississippi. He has the ethics of a snake; the intelligence of a sloth. It's all about Ricky and Ricky's "power" down in Austin. Ironically, most Austin-ites hate him the most.

                        Problem in Texas is the far right wing nuts who will vote race and/or religion. Mormon is not 'christian' enough in their books and Obama ain't white. They flit around in their mega churches to be seen, and blazenly will screw the pizza driver on tip. They are the 'haves' that haven't got a clue how much they hate everybody else. Now toss in that bullsh!t Texas pride - and the stench is worse than 40 Ft. Worth cow lots.

                        I live in Texas - and nothing gags me more than Rick Perry, Texas (false) pride, and the thumpers with their Onward Christian Soldier mentality. By the way, don't be pointing fingers at the trailer parks. They are probably the ONLY people in the state not living the McMansion lie.

                        • 9 votes
                        Reply#21 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 8:17 PM EDT

                        Texass, I spelled it right.

                        • 7 votes
                        Reply#22 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 8:23 PM EDT

                        Welcome back, Steve. The way Kentucky kicked your ass, most Jayhawks will not crawl out from under their rocks until Independence Day. We really don't care how you spell it. I hope that doesn't shatter your world too much.

                          #22.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 9:22 PM EDT

                          I'm not a Jayhawk fan Jim. Now what?

                          • 2 votes
                          #22.2 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 11:08 AM EDT
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                          David Bellow is on the Texas GOP SREC and he is pushing for this Emergency Meeting. He has written an article explaining why Winner Take All is better for Texas and also why this is not about Romney, although Romney snubbing us has ticked us off!


                          read more of his article at Texas Conservative Republican News here:

                            Reply#23 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

                            "If they succeed in changing the rules in Texas, then they have to come to [the RNC] for a waiver, and it is unlikely to happen."

                            There's no way in hell the RNC would do anything to put Santorum closer to the nomination. They're simply not that dumb.

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#24 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 8:29 PM EDT

                            Who says they are not that dumb? Dumb is what Dumb does....and just look at the way the primary elections have been held so far and the stellar (sarc) candidates they have fielded.

                            • 1 vote
                            #24.1 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 9:27 PM EDT
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                            read more about the Texas GOP going Winner Take All and Warning Romney here:

                              Reply#25 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 8:33 PM EDT

                              David, you're a new user as of today. You will not be able to post links until you have been a member of Newsvine for a while longer.

                              The link you are trying to post is to David Bellow's own blog. I don't recommend posting a blog link because they are usually only opinions of the author and not based in or backed up with any facts.

                              If you want to post some of his comments-you will have to "block quote" them and give him credit. Like this:

                              Mitt Romney has Ticked off Texas Republicans

                              This is not about Romney though. It never has been about Mitt Romney. From the beginning, going back to winner take all has always been about giving Texas a voice in the presidential race. The only way we can do that is to be winner take all. I have been for winner take all well before we had any idea of who would still be in the race today. I have advocated going back to winner take all well before Santorum was even doing well in the polls. Going to winner take all has never been about Romney. The only reason Romney has entered this controversy now is because he decided to ignore the largest Republican state in the nation. He has so far told us he does not want to come to our nationally televised Texas debate and has told us the race is over and that he does not need us. Now Texas Republicans are mad and we have a message to Romney. Don’t Mess With Texas! The race is not over! We have 155 delegates so you better not ignore us, especially if we go back to winner take all! The SREC has passed a resolution warning Romney that it will not be good for him is he does not care about Texas and if he snubs our debate.

                              Sincerely,
                              David Bellow
                              SREC – SD3

                              • 3 votes
                              #25.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 9:19 PM EDT
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