Romney wins Wisc., moves one step closer to nomination

 

Demographics proved to be destiny once again for Mitt Romney, who is one big step closer to wrapping up the Republican presidential nomination.

NBC News has declared Romney the winner in Wisconsin. He won 42-38 percent over Rick Santorum with 99 percent of the vote in, and familiar patterns emerged that led to his win, according to exit polls.

Santorum faced an uphill battle going into Wisconsin because, despite its blue-collar voters, Wisconsin lacked the evangelicals that have fueled his insurgent campaign. And he only won those voters by a narrow margin.

Romney also went beyond his traditional base, winning with Tea Party supporters (48-37 percent), those making below $100,000 (40-38 percent), non-college graduates (42-38 percent), and tying with very conservatives (43-43 percent).

Just 38 percent of Republican primary voters Tuesday said they were born-again or evangelical Christians in Wisconsin – the same number that said so in 2008. But Santorum won them by just a 43-39 percent margin.

Santorum has not won in a state with less than 57 percent evangelical population. The average evangelical population in states Santorum has won was 72 percent.

By contrast, the average evangelical population in states where Romney won was 36 percent, about where it was in Wisconsin Tuesday.

Voters were more downscale and blue collar than in typical Romney wins. States where he has won averaged 50 percent college grads and 33 percent making more than $100,000. In Wisconsin, 43 percent had a college degree and 26 percent said they made more than $100,000 a year. But both numbers were up from 2008.

Romney’s biggest margin was on one question. Voters said the one quality that mattered most in deciding how they would vote was being able to defeat President Obama. Almost one-in-four (36 percent) said that was their top priority, and overwhelmingly, they picked Romney by a whopping 68-23 percent margin.

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people use facts please not personal insults

thanks

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Reply#29 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 11:38 PM EDT

Anonymous - Well said. I find it odd that hurling insults is somehow seen as a way to influence others. On the other hand, if the motive for such behavior is simply because there isn't anything better to do I have some suggestions. 1) Practice engaging in critical thinking - while politics isn't for everyone it deserves serious contemplation. 2) Not everything has to end with an insult or crude joke. Though some of the comments are funny let's try to use this as an opportunity to actually have a meaningful dialogue. Others come to mind, but I think you all get the point.

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#29.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:22 AM EDT
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Whoopee! More Obama! Can't wait to FINALLY see the "saved jobs", the "shovel-ready jobs" and jobs that have been waiting in the wings to repair "our infrastructure". I bet Obama will get our credit rating back to where it was when Bush was in office too! Maybe he will even get us to the 7% unemployment rate like it was when Bush was in office! I know, I know...Obama said it would never get to 8% and it's 13% in some states but don't mind THAT! And don't pay any attention to the fact that thousands of businesses are laying off employees because of the proposed Obamacare system. Obama is the saviour. I'd love to hear our benevolent leader speak in public but I don't think I can afford the gas. Besides, I have been busy with fundraisers trying to help our teachers buy pencils and paper.

    Reply#30 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 11:41 PM EDT

    What math wizard wrote this article? "Almost one - in- four (36%) said that was their top priority..." "Almost one-in-four" would be somewhat less than 25%. 36% is actually "somewhat more than one - three." I'm totally disgusted with the lack of intelligence MSNBC has, or the lack of proof-reading.

    Get out of my country!

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    Reply#31 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 11:48 PM EDT

    LOL Just for the Hmmm Fine Folks . It Is Our Country Friends . There is no Republican/Teabagger States of Amerika , There is no Socialistic States of America . There is only ONE United States Of America .

    Shove your bigotry , and your Religion up your butt . That is All .

    EDIT : get any fooking media owned by a foreigner out of our country . LMAO bye bye Fox news for DUM FUX.

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    Reply#32 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 11:55 PM EDT

    You shouldn't drink and write

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    #32.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:30 AM EDT

    Thanks Jackie . so what did i say that makes you think i drink ????? Point to some lie i told , Because I was drunk . Go ahead . Hurry now . We would not want anyone to believe your words , WITHOUT some Proof .

      #32.2 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:02 AM EDT

      It's hard to believe anyone would speak the way you do without being under the influence.

        #32.3 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:29 AM EDT

        WHY because I Do NOT believe the way YOU do ? I sure am glad we have that whole PESKY first amendment thing then . It Protects me . Me FROM YOU .

        Ghandi says = I like your Christ , But not your Christians .

        Churchill says = " He has all the Virtues , I dislike and none of the vices I admire "

          #32.4 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:34 AM EDT
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          I think you liberals are defiling yourselves. There have been good, intelligent liberals in our country: Hubert, Jack, Clinton and many more. But Pres. Obama is simply stupid and was totally unprepared for this job. I think he would have made an excellent kindergarten teacher, if he brought a GOOD backup team in the classroom with him! Unfortunately, he doesn't have anyone in his cabinet with an IQ higher than his or her body temperature. All you have to do is THINK about what he has said and done.

            Reply#33 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 12:00 AM EDT

            Bruce-Harvard educated and a constitutional scholar Obama is much much more intelligent than W. (the poorest example of Presidential intelligence in the past 100 years (before you insult Carter google Nuclear Engineers). Romney knows how to dismantle American companies and lay off thousands of American workers in the name of profit. He seems at least average in intellect but subpar in thought process and message delivery.

              #33.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 10:14 AM EDT
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              If Mittens wins how many first ladies will there be in the White House ?

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              Reply#34 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 12:12 AM EDT

              Attempt at cleverness--fail

              Polygamy jokes are so 80's

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              #34.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:07 AM EDT

              Ignorant

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              #34.2 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:31 AM EDT
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              Another win for Richie Rich & 1%, too bad most of there base will only vote for a Mormon cause hes the only one left. I hope women, minorities, and working class voters won't be fooled by Mr say want ever it takes to win?

                Reply#35 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 12:13 AM EDT

                if you are calling Romney Richie Rich then you do know he wants to LOWER TAXES, not raise them like Obama wants. Obama is going to raise small business owners tax to 40%, how can i keep my business going with most of my money paying goventment workers and Lazy freeloaders?

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                #35.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:14 AM EDT

                Romney will lower taxes on the wealthy and the corporations but not the middle class. Small business owners by 90+% would not see those taxes. The problem with many moderately successfull Republicans is the perception of their adjusted gross income. We know you think you're either going to be millionaires or even billionaires but your adjusted gross income isn't even $200,000. Quit lying to make yourself feel more wealthy than you really are.

                  #35.2 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 10:20 AM EDT
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                  "I think you liberals are defiling yourselves." says Bruce . Not being a Liberal ,being an Independent . Being self supporting , Not being the things Repubs love to toss around . Socialist , Communist , Kenyan lol Fascist Welfare , Food stamp , Section 8 ..BLAH , BLAH

                  I am Pretty DAMN Sure I am not DEFILING anyone .

                    Reply#36 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 12:15 AM EDT

                    Carpenter7 - I've read several of your posts so far and I'm still not sure what you believe in. Being independent is fine, but it seems rather meaningless if you don't stand for anything. I admit it's the safe way to go. You can hurl insults at others who brave to tide of opinion while staying in the relative safety of your non-decrypt position. So tell us what is it you believe...what would you do if you were President? Then we can have a real dialogue moving past the light-hearted banter reminiscent of youthful days gone by.

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                    #36.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:30 AM EDT

                    Maybe yourself

                      #36.2 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:32 AM EDT

                      Well Gosh Jeff , Let me be MORE Clear then . I cannot and will Not Support any Candidate that has an R or a Tea bagging , History attached to their name . This Cycle . Was clear enough ? Or should i include drawings ?

                      " fine, but it seems rather meaningless if you don't stand for anything. I admit it's the safe way to go. You can hurl insults at others who brave to tide of opinion while staying in the relative safety of your non-decrypt position. So tell us what is it you believe...what would you do if you were President?" so now you want me to lay out a few thousand words and policy's . YET you do NOT even hold your own party folks to the same standard . whow it must be a tea bag thing .

                        #36.3 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:43 AM EDT

                        Hmmm just a heads up for ya should be "nondescript " not some kind of reference to a crypt .

                        BTW I am 50 Years of age . Do NOT Project your Lack of Morals , Reasoning Abilities , Or basic reading skills onto me .

                          #36.4 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:49 AM EDT

                          Then act your age and show us you've learned to do something in the last 50 years with your time that isn't foul and hateful. Please. Contribute constructively or go to sleep.

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                          #36.5 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:00 AM EDT

                          Well ok This is for you Jackie . Todays republicans are the most harmful force of evil that could be imagined .

                          now quote where i have said the things YOU said I said . HURRY .

                            #36.6 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:05 AM EDT

                            "

                            Jackie-1496878

                            Then act your age and show us you've learned to do something in the last 50 years with your time that isn't foul and hateful. Please. Contribute constructively or go to sleep. "

                            Do You Think We are Married ? They have MEDICATION for that stuff . You might wish to see a Doctor . While you are trying to TELL me what to do . and BTW I learned in the past 50 Years that any Organized Religion is a sham . Its just another way to AVOID taxes .

                              #36.7 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:11 AM EDT

                              My, my carpenter is rather cynical, at least we now know that it is her way that is the only right way. lmao!

                                #36.8 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:39 AM EDT

                                Prove that One american . The Lower case for our nation is your thing BTW not mine .

                                  #36.9 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:46 AM EDT

                                  I do not belong to the republican party.......another wrong assumption . However, while working in the lab, I developed a medical device ( which this year will be taxed a new 3.7%) and came up with a more efficient way to stain slides to diagnose cancer. That has put me in the 33% tax bracket. Love being punished for working my beehind off. There are always two , or more, perspectives to a situation. I don't have to be republican to be unhappy with the situation in Washington. We should all be unhappy. Must try to sleep.....insomniac and working early tomorrow. Nice banter.

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                                  #36.10 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 4:07 AM EDT
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                                  If Richie Rich wins, there will be at least 3 first ladies in the White House, LOL! If Richie Rich wins, women, working class people will be in lots of trouble with higher taxes while rich get ever richer with all of the tax breaks.

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                                  Reply#37 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 12:16 AM EDT

                                  how can you be so Blind? Gas, unemployment, housing forclosures, lower wages, higher taxes, Government control, using our money to take a lot of vacations, KEEPING TROOPS IN WAR (his campaign promis to get them out). Remeber his promis of change? Well how has that Change gone? Ok the big question to you is BE HONEST to yourself, has the last 3 years been good to you? And dont cop-out with "oh it was Bush's fault" that was over 2 years ago. And yes Bush was a Jack@sss.

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                                  #37.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:16 AM EDT
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                                  How many millions will Romney save if he can force Ryan's plan through?

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                                  Reply#38 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 12:28 AM EDT

                                  From one "Dock Builder " to another then . I Was in business for my self . Then came 2006 . I was one of 5 MILLION Wood Workers in Florida alone . That suddenly had NO work .In the past 2 Years I have managed to Find work and am BACK in Business for me and my FAMILY . NO , NONE help from a fooking Repub/Bagger .

                                  Them People can kiss my butt .

                                    Reply#39 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 12:31 AM EDT

                                    You must be Irish.

                                      #39.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:36 AM EDT

                                      So carpenter, what policies did obama and company have to help you? Bet you can hardly wait for obama to raise your taxes, or do you hide your actual income to avoid paying your "fair" share?

                                        #39.2 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:45 AM EDT

                                        LOL thanks @ american "my fair share " Actual rate was 28% . What was yours ? and Jacko's

                                        HMMM you really do not know that all we have to do is revert the rates to 1990 and this debt , deficit , can be resolved ? Let me Guess You and Jackie are both 13%'s

                                          #39.3 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:51 AM EDT

                                          Im a 60 year old grandmother of 16. Was a single mother of five children when they were 2, 4,6,8 and 10 years old. Worked in a hospital as a lab tech for 41 years. Believe in being self sufficient and hardworking. Believe that people should stand up for what they believe in and should be civil to one another. Course language is offensive to me because I'm pretty old fashioned. I'm sorry to have judged you by your comments........they were so angry and off color. The Irish comment was your pronounciation of the f word. I thought it was funny. I'm sure you have your reasons for the things you say. Goodnight.

                                            #39.4 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:17 AM EDT

                                            Should held that "aspirin " tighter is all i know to tell ya . Do not be blaming me for all your kids .

                                            Once again jackie , why do you keep telling me your problems ? YOU have told me how i am a drunk . You and your helpers have tried to say how i am a drunk and do not pay taxes . One of your helpers wants me to write a few hundred pages of text . So do you Tards Practice this act ?

                                              #39.5 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:30 AM EDT

                                              Since you assumed I am a 13%....... I thought you would like the real story.

                                                #39.6 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:34 AM EDT

                                                Ok carpenter.....you keep asking, so I'm going to say it. I thought you must be drinking because of the things you write. You remind me of my sister when she's had a few. She's looking for a fight with everyone. She writes in fragmented sentences with creative punctuation. She makes wild false assumptions about people she doesn't know......tells people to put things up their butts and to kiss her butt ( seems like alcohol and butt talk go together) and generally talks in public like a sailor. Does any of this sound familiar? There, that is why I thought you may have had snort or two. I could be wrong, but if I am, I'm going to suggest you don't pick up the habit......you're doing fine without the booze......a natural.

                                                  #39.7 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:51 AM EDT
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                                                  how can you obama Supporters be so Blind? Gas, unemployment, housing forclosures, lower wages, higher taxes, Government control, using our money to take a lot of vacations, KEEPING TROOPS IN WAR (his campaign promis to get them out). Remeber his promis of change? Well how has that Change gone? Ok the big question to you is BE HONEST to yourself, has the last 3 years been good to you? And dont cop-out with "oh it was Bush's fault" that was over 2 years ago. And yes Bush was a Jack@sss.

                                                    Reply#40 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:10 AM EDT

                                                    Its Simple . WE do NOT try to act like the world began in 2009 . we also can remember the years 2000-2008 . We also Lived the history for the past few DECADES . We do Not rely on Texas " lets re-write history " School books .

                                                      #40.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:56 AM EDT

                                                      Then you remember 9/11? That's when the economy tanked. Someone crashed into wall street......remember? Love how people find a way to blame the attack on our country on someone that had been in office for 9 months. Everyone struggled......all Americans suffered. There were lots of bad choices made by Washington and there are STILL bad choices being made. The bigger the government gets the harder it will be for you to support your family.

                                                        #40.2 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:42 AM EDT

                                                        Jackie , Sorry , I refuse to chase your thoughts around , to whatever you think is Best for this 5 minutes . Answer my Question. YOU have made a lot of comments about me being drunk and stuff . PROVE YOUR Stuff.

                                                          #40.3 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:54 AM EDT

                                                          Let's see:
                                                          1) Price of gas - has been higher, and has no bearing on the supply of gas in this country, it's affected more by international speculation and gambling (futures) than presidential poolicy.
                                                          2) Unemployment - edging down, and it IS a lagging indicator.
                                                          3) Housing foreclosures - slowing edging down, and for which Romney believes homeowners should stay in them as long as possible so that investors can pick them up cheaper and cheaper.
                                                          4) Lower wages, higher taxes - mostly flat for most of us who still have jobs.
                                                          5) Government control - where?
                                                          6) Using our moey to take lots of vacations - the ranch in Crawford?
                                                          7) Drawing down in Iraq, mostly out of there, and a schedule in Afghanistan with draw downs that are pulling our troops out of hot spots and letting the locals take the risks.

                                                            #40.4 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 5:09 AM EDT
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                                                            I will be glad when this is over.

                                                              Reply#41 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:12 AM EDT

                                                              Here's a message for all Republicans. Alienate the Mormon vote at your own risk. You've made the primaries about Mitt's religion the last two election cycles.

                                                              Understand this. The Mormon vote has delivered Idaho and Utah for the Republicans for the last fifty years. Wyoming, Arizona and Nevada as well. That's thirty electoral votes. Mormons switched parties from the Democrats fifty years ago.

                                                              If you alienate them they will switch back and you will lose the west. Without the western states the Republicans would become a permanent minority party. I live in Idaho around a bunch of Mormons and they are getting fed up with the anti-Mormon sentiment in the GOP for the last eight years. Make this about the Mormon church at your own risk.

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                                                              Reply#42 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:14 AM EDT

                                                              Vermin- that's laughable. How about 180 years of Mormon anti-Christian vitriol and hate?

                                                              When Mormons stop teaching that pastors like myself and priests are paid by the devil to teach a false gospel, we'll talk

                                                              When Mormons stop teaching that Jews and Christians are "gentiles" to the true children of Abraham (Mormons), we'll talk

                                                              When Mormons renounce their teaching the Christianity is a "pack of nonsense", we'll talk

                                                              When Mormons stop shooting at me, or sending Somoan Goon Squads to threaten violence, when they stop having their wives and children spit on me and curse at me like a drunken sailor, all because I'm holding a Bible and wanting to share Jesus, we'll talk.

                                                                #42.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:03 AM EDT

                                                                Talk to me. You know that there are literally millions of people that know what you say is absolutely false. You are a preacher? Read on what is written in Thessalonians.

                                                                  #42.2 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:12 AM EDT

                                                                  what does Thessalonians have to do with the way Mormons act towards Christians or what Mormons believe towards Christians?

                                                                  If you doubt my words, they are easy to prove.

                                                                  "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom."
                                                                  - Prophet John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, 10:127

                                                                  “The apostle Orson Pratt, in his book The Seer says this about the Christian community:

                                                                  "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness."

                                                                  "...all the priests who adhere to the sectarian religions of the day with all their followers, without one exception, receive their portion with the devil and his angels."
                                                                  - Prophet Joseph Smith , The Elders Journal, Joseph Smith Jr., editor, vol.1, no.4, p.60

                                                                  Here is from the Lone and Dreary World portion of the Endowment Ceremony with the pre-1990 changes having lines through them.

                                                                  http://lds-mormon.com/compare2.shtml

                                                                  as to the blood

                                                                  LDS Apostle and teacher, Bruce R. McConkie explains:

                                                                  But if someone whose blood was wholly of Gentile lineage were converted, he would be adopted into the lineage of Abraham and Jacob and become the house of Israel. (Abraham 2:9-11.) That this action involves a literal change in the convert's blood was plainly taught by the Prophet [Joseph Smith] . . . "while the effect of the Holy Ghost upon a Gentile, is to purge out the old blood, and make him actually of the seed of Abraham. . . ." (Teachings, 149-150) (Mormon Doctrine, 390; emphasis added)

                                                                  Who is a Gentile from the LDS Ensign

                                                                  Who Is a “Gentile”?

                                                                  The basic meaning of the word Gentile is “foreign,” “other,” or “non.” Thus, to a Hebrew, a Gentile is a non-Hebrew; to an Israelite, a Gentile is a non-Israelite; and to a Jew, a Gentile is a non-Jew. In this sense, some Latter-day Saints have referred to those who are not members of the Church as Gentiles, even though the nonmembers might be Jews!

                                                                  http://www.lds.org/ensign/1991/01/of-the-house-of-israel?lang=eng

                                                                    #42.3 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:57 AM EDT

                                                                    Oh man I just wrote you an epistle and hit the wrong button and it disappeared .......maybe a sign that it wouldn't have mattered had you read it. Too tired. Dang it was some good history. Would love to discuss it sometime Ed. Goodnight.

                                                                      #42.4 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 4:40 AM EDT
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                                                                      So let's see, the Republicans want to believe they are going to take Wisconsin? With what-their Koch money? Scotty Walker did a fine job of giving this state back to the Democrats for next fall's election. He even changed former Blue Dog Dems into Dems again! I was in Madison a year ago and I have never seen so many people in one spot who were more determined to take back their state and government from the hands of tyrants. It really made me proud to call myself an American and a Midwesterner! I thanked those people for standing up for the rest of America and they were marching around their capitol building in steady snow, in 15 degree weather! Those people in Wisconsin rocked the country and the progressive movement. Call them what you want, but these people are anything but cheeseheads!

                                                                      Romney? He won? So what! I like to think of this guy as "Mittwitt", because he reminds of a nitwit. I have been following most of his campaign drivel since he joined the race and he makes no sense for anyone with common sense. His "job record" involves firing people by the thousands while he was a corporate raider, stealing their pensions and making them unemployed. His off-shore bank accounts are what really piss off working class people about the rich and he has plenty of them. I know there are stupid people out there who will vote for him, the Republican party is proof of that!

                                                                      Obama is going to clean Mittwitt's clock come November. Mark my words! We are going to take our country back and those who get to go back to DC are going to start doing our bidding. Screw the right!

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                                                                      Reply#43 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:15 AM EDT

                                                                      how can you be so Blind? Gas, unemployment, housing forclosures, lower wages, higher taxes, Government control, using our money to take a lot of vacations, KEEPING TROOPS IN WAR (his campaign promis to get them out). Remeber his promis of change? Well how has that Change gone? Ok the big question to you is BE HONEST to yourself, has the last 3 years been good to you? And dont cop-out with "oh it was Bush's fault" that was over 2 years ago. And yes Bush was a Jack@sss.

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                                                                      #43.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:18 AM EDT

                                                                      Same Way I replied to your last copy and paste post .

                                                                      Its Simple . WE do NOT try to act like the world began in 2009 . we also can remember the years 2000-2008 . We also Lived the history for the past few DECADES . We do Not rely on Texas " lets re-write history " School books .

                                                                        #43.2 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:42 AM EDT

                                                                        The past three years have been better than all eight of Bush's years in office. If the question is whether you are better off now than you were three years ago everyone is better now and the Republican candidates are better now then three years ago. They have to vote for President Obama. Same thing for McConnell and Boehner and Little Prince Cantor and all the rest of the GOP. I love it! It will be a land slide if that is the criteria. Every one is better now then in the Second Greta Depression the GOP caused with their failed policies that they still, amazingly, cling to today. The GOP has not made one positive contribution to our Nation in over a decade yet they still have the same old failed ideas. No regulations on businesses, tax breaks for the wealthy and cut all benefits to senior citizens and poor people even though all the seniors receive is meager benefits compared to the trillions in tax breaks for the fat cats that fund and own the GOP and their politicians.

                                                                          #43.3 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:48 AM EDT
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                                                                          A year from now if you stop people passing by on the street and ask, few will be able to tell you who the Republican candidte for President was. This is the most unremarkable person in history to run. He will be lost in the shadow of his long- forgotten father in a very short time.That is the hard truth, and Republicans know this in their hearts.The oddball Herman Cain will be more remembered.He left a larger impression on the American public. Albeit a bad one.

                                                                            Reply#44 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:32 AM EDT

                                                                            I've seen what the flashy, witty, articulate, party throwing, sport pool golfer guy can do. That stuff I would like to forget. Give me someone that isn't out to win a popularity contest. Give me a guy that will do what is good for America. Keep your celebrity.

                                                                              #44.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:05 AM EDT

                                                                              WOW you do not like GOLF ?

                                                                                #44.2 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:44 AM EDT

                                                                                Actually, no. I'm a terrible golfer.

                                                                                  #44.3 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:23 AM EDT
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                                                                                  2 Thessalonians 2 (King James Version)

                                                                                  2 Thessalonians 2

                                                                                  1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Master Yahshua Anointed One, and by our gathering together unto him,

                                                                                  2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of the Anointed One is at hand.

                                                                                  3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

                                                                                  4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of The Most High, shewing himself that he is God.

                                                                                  5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

                                                                                  6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

                                                                                  7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

                                                                                  8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom The Master shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

                                                                                  9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Adversary with all power and signs and lying wonders,

                                                                                  10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

                                                                                  11And for this cause YHVH shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

                                                                                  12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

                                                                                  13But we are bound to give thanks alway to YHVH for you, brethren beloved of The Most High, because YHVH hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

                                                                                  14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Master Yahshua Anointed One .

                                                                                  15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

                                                                                  16Now our Master Yahshua Anointed One himself, and YHVH, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,

                                                                                  17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

                                                                                  Word Origin & History

                                                                                  perdition

                                                                                  mid-14c., "fact of being lost or destroyed," from O.Fr. perdiciun (11c.), from L.L. perditionem (nom. perditio) "ruin, destruction," from L. perditus, pp. of perdere "do away with, destroy, lose, throw away," from per- "through" (here perhaps with intensive or completive force, "to destruction") + -dare "to put" (see date (1)). Special theological sense of "condition of damnation, spiritual ruin, state of souls in Hell" (late 14c.) has gradually extinguished the general use of the word.

                                                                                  Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2010 Douglas Harper

                                                                                  Joel 3:19 WYC

                                                                                  Wycliffe
                                                                                  Egypt shall be into desolation, and Idumea into desert of perdition; for that that they did wickedly against the sons of Judah, and shedded out innocent blood in their land. (Egypt shall become a desolation, and Edom a wilderness of perdition; because they did wickedly against the people of Judah, and poured out innocent blood in their land.)

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                                                                                  Reply#45 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 1:37 AM EDT

                                                                                  You're from TX where the tornado hit, right? God smiteth thee O blasphemous one.

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                                                                                  #45.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:12 AM EDT
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                                                                                  Ahh yes lets let some 2ND Century Fairy Tales determine our National Policies . I hope you have great comfort in your religion . I hope your family finds Great comfort in your Religion . NOW Keep your fairy tales out of my Government .

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                                                                                  Reply#46 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:27 AM EDT

                                                                                  If I made a quarter of a million dollars a year I would not for him like a bunch of other of his minions. If he his elected and adopts Ryan's budget I will make you a little wager. That being that we will not have a middle class in four years and most of the 99% will be working for minimum wage or less, with no benefits or safety net.

                                                                                  Suspect that unemployment will skyrocket, and if you think there are a lot of homeless toady just wait. The powers to be could care less what happens in this country because unlike you and me they can all pick up their marbles and move on to green pastures.

                                                                                  We are all being milked for our last dollars and the problem is there area lot of misguided individuals out there that do not have the gray matter you realize it. And by the way I am a life long Eisenhower type Republican.

                                                                                  Where has my Political party taken us.

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                                                                                  Reply#47 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:29 AM EDT

                                                                                  Jackie:

                                                                                  I believe we have been down this road before, my suggestion is before you sell you soul to a false prophet you spend a little time doing some historical research. And it might be helpfull to keep an open mind and read some documented facts that most Mormons won't read because they are being brain washed.

                                                                                    Reply#48 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:37 AM EDT

                                                                                    I ve kown a lot of Mormons and haven't heard them swear or ever speak ill of any other religion . In fact it is one of their articles of faith to allow all men to worship how, where and what they may. I've done my homework......they are my neighbors, some are co workers, some are friends. I have seen them go without to help others in need. I've seen them volunteer countless hours to people of all faiths. They helped me when my son was addicted to drugs....asking nothing in return. Ive studied countless religions and none of them are without skeletons in their closets. I think that's where the " don't judge lest ye be judged likewise" comes in. All religions try to do well. Maybe we should focus on that. As Christians, the last thing the God we worship would want is for us to fight over religion.

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                                                                                    #48.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:56 AM EDT

                                                                                    ED. As for being brainwashed.....heard a stat the other day. The LDS have the highest rate per capita of higher education, live longer, less debt, healthier, employed, more charitable ....and the list goes on. They must be doing something right. Their leaders are men who were heart surgeons, attorneys, scientists......impressive credentials. The question is, have you done YOUR homework. I have. What I had heard all my life, I learned for myself was ignorance, jealousy and unfounded bigotry.

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                                                                                    #48.2 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:04 AM EDT

                                                                                    So You Think , That where that whole " Judge not lest ye be judged " thing comes in at ? You would be wrong again . READ it In CONTEXT . Look i am not an atheist , I am not faithless . I am tired of the Bible being used to represent what ever horrors you wish .Adolph was a " supposed " Catholic . We now know he was an EVIL man . That does not change the facts of then .

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                                                                                    #48.3 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:08 AM EDT

                                                                                    I don't think we should judge each other. I didn't know anything about you until you talked about being a wood worker and losing your job and the struggles you've been through. It caused a change of heart in me towards you. I too have struggled. I understand.

                                                                                      #48.4 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:26 AM EDT
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                                                                                      Hey Tiffany1 - didn't Obama have a Dem Senate?

                                                                                        Reply#49 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:40 AM EDT

                                                                                        Hey dave which Months ? I assume you mean the "SUPER MAJORITY "

                                                                                          #49.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:09 AM EDT
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                                                                                          Been voting for presidents since the mid-1950's, so I won't be here in 2060 or so to say I told you so, but like HST, George W. Bush will eventuallly be judged by historians as on of our finest presidents. He will probably be ranked just outside of the top 10. The main thing he will be rewarded for is the fact that after dozens of attacks on America, our troops, our embassies, our ships he finally, after 9/11/01 he finally became the first US Pres. to decide to fight back against islam and Al Queda. Mitt Romney will probably not be as good as Bush, but he will be a huge upgrade over Obama. Obama will eventually be ranked among the worst of Our 20th century's worst chief executives. He's more of a socialist than Woodrow Wilson, more inept than Jimmy Carter, and far more corrupt than Warren Harding ever dreamed of being. By the way, I've been a registered democrat all my life. Like a baseball umpire I just call 'em the way I see 'em.

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                                                                                          Reply#50 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:18 AM EDT

                                                                                          After scrolling to the top of the page , and reading , your inserted remarks . go ahead kiddies " Come at me "

                                                                                            #50.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:22 AM EDT

                                                                                            ok i do not agree . GW Bush will be listed as one of our Worst Presidents . He can add THE UNITED STATES to HIS BANKRUPTCY Count .

                                                                                              #50.2 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:24 AM EDT

                                                                                              Let's see: under Bush we had record tax revenues in 2005-2007

                                                                                              We had an average unemployment of 5.5% with 4.6% in 2007

                                                                                              We had 52 straight months of job growth

                                                                                              Bush negotiated and signed the agreement to withdraw troops from Iraq that Obama takes credit for

                                                                                              Compared to Obama, Bush looks like Lincoln or Washington.

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                                                                                              #50.3 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 4:01 AM EDT

                                                                                              Osama Bin Laden is still dead. Obama has not started any wars on false information. W. was the worst President in my lifetime and I'm 58.

                                                                                                #50.4 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 10:33 AM EDT
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                                                                                                Okk lol we have here Jackie and Jeff and "american " all HMM " Conservatives . "

                                                                                                  Reply#51 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:18 AM EDT

                                                                                                  Scroll up and read again.

                                                                                                    #51.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:31 AM EDT
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                                                                                                    Wayne, your very wrong. during Bush senior"s time, the Savings an loan real a state crisis happened, causing interest rates to go through the roof. It hit the housing market hard. homes were not selling, because of high interest rates, nor could anyone afford to build for the same reason. Interest was at 14 to 16%. when Clinton came in he quickly got the interest rates back down at 7 to 9% and things began to move again. But to help bring the market back stronger, Clinton brought down the amount of the requirement for a down payment at 20 -25% versus 35% making it easier for people to buy or build. That was all Clinton did. It was W that caused the problem. He was the one that stood up and said, "everyone should own their own home", therefore he took off regulations on mortgage companies, banks, etc. This made it no holds bared and small crooked loan sharks sprung up everywhere selling interesting only loans with lies that they were principal loans,and using false info. They then sold these loans to the banks, whom packaged them in with good loans, sold them out world wide, (like poison package in with wine),and this is what caused the housing bubble, which has caused the Great recession. Regulations are a good thing to have to keep the crooks at bay, without them, we are vulnerable. Obama put them back into place and now things are beginning to start up once again, but it took a long time to repair that much damage.

                                                                                                      Reply#52 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 4:59 AM EDT

                                                                                                      As the Republican Clown-car procession has moved thru these past few states "Mulligan Mitt" with the aid of his magical underwear is starting to become the GOP nominee for the upcomming election. Now he will have to start thinking seriously about his oral blunders or else this contest will be over with before it even begins. But here's something that would aid him greatly in order to convince us, the American people that he has America and its people in his best interest. All he has to do is take out all of his money from those foreign bank accounts and place them back in American banking institutions. That's putting your money where your mouth and your country is. That would show any doubters how sincere he is about doing what's best for this country. Yeah, yeah sure there are folks that disagree with this, but by beliving in your country so wholeheartedly and since Mitt Romney is applying for the greatest job in this country. That would convince us all is that he is willing to do what it takes. Because if this country isn't good or safe enough for you to keep your hard earned money in. Then why would it be good enough for you to govern. Otherwise the moniker "Vulture Capitalist", will still be at the top of his resume...

                                                                                                      Go figure, then go vote...

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                                                                                                      Reply#53 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 5:33 AM EDT
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