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So the Repbulican official response was to ignore that they broke the law and tell someone else to but out. Go figure!

Oh Goody! "Free Stuff" from a republican. Who woulda thunk!

You would have thought his good buddy Paul Ryan would have told him the campaign rules in WI.

Shows how out of touch Ryan is with his own state.

What is the issue? He was only helping those unions supporters, ya know the SEIU Obama Super Pac members have a free lunch!

Free food Red, did you happen to be one in line for it?

Wow -- Brett Baier just eviscerated Jay Carney on Special Report.

My sides are killing me from laughing so hard!

Damn NJ you beat me.

Eric Holder got a little homework assignment from 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, due Thursday.

They don't mess around.

Dennis,

What is unprecedented about the supreme court overturning a law?

It happens quite often. In fact, I would venture to say reviewing laws for their constitutionality in the courts number one mission.

Rim,

Our Presidents words not mine.

thetotas,

The DOJ lawyer is Dana Lydia Kaersvang not Eric Holder that has the assignment from the court.

Actually I believe the court asked that Holder write or sign the letter.

Our Presidents words not mine.

That's my point Dennis. The President is flailing about. He's looking very small.

The incredible shrinking president -- the movie.

I know just read the letter.

Rim,

The court may try but our President hasn’t done anything to be humiliated about.

Here is a link to the court’s order/letter.

http://www.lsnewsgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Screen-Shot-2012-04-03-at-6_04_33-PM.png

Uh, Dennis? He betrayed his ignorance of the role of the courts.

That's something for any president to be humiliated about. If he knew anything at all about the Constitution, he'd know that it is most certainly within the purview of the Courtnto decide whether or not laws were Constitutional- or not.

That they are a co-equal branch of the government.

That the Founders set up a system whereby politicians- and that includes the president- were precluded from influencing their decisions.

So, I'm understanding where the Fifth Circuit is coming from- because we seem to have a man in office who does not understand the role of the courts anymore than he understands the Constitution.

Want proof?

Well, for starters, there's the Libyan "kinetic military action", which violated the War Powers Act.

Then there were the two- count 'em, two- unanimous decisions that came down against his administration from this court. That's right, the one where he appointed two of the justices sitting thereon. One was against the EPA, the other, against the EEOC and in favor of a Lutheran school.

My, my.

He does seem to have quite a lot to learn about the Constitution and the role of the Courts.

He should be humiliated. So should anyone so ignorant.

OBAMA: “We have not seen a court overturn a law that was passed by Congress, on a economic issue, like healthcare — like I think most people would clearly consider commerce — a law like that has not been overturned at least since Lochner [vs New York, 1905],” Obama told reporters during the question-and answer session of the Associated Press luncheon…

“The point that I was making is that the Supreme Court is the final say on our Constitituon and our laws, and all of us have to respect it,” Obama said. “But it precisely because of that extraordinary power that the court has to exercise significant restraint” when considering laws passed on the basis of the Commerce Clause.

I'll take a Romney sub over Obama healthcare any day!

There is a possibility that the subs were less that $1. If you purchase one of the mega subs and cut them in pieces, you can actually feed a huge group of people for about .50c-.75c. I do it with my drama students during play rehearsals all the time. I didn't see a cost for the subs anywhere. Or did they not get that information for their extremely biased news article?

Readytwo change- they needed SOME kind of a story- you don't think they wanted to cover Obama's "punishment assignment", now, do you?

It does not matter that this sets a pretty historic precedent. It does not matter that the Court reacted to a president's entirely unConstitutional actions.

For crying out loud- that could hurt the Idol!

So, they needed this nonsense.

Now you know why their ratings are so low, their own mothers don't watch.

Or read.

Oh, dear God: A GOP judge gets in a snit because of something his President said, that was NOT out of line, and no jo and that ilk want to make something of it.

The issue isn't your President, the issue is why a judge is showing political prejudice. THAT is what should outrage you.

But, that would require honesty, something we know that crowd lacks.

And by the way: for those of you who are into faux outrage over nothing (@@ at YOU no jo) were you equally outraged when Gingrinch proposed sending Federal Marshals out after judges he disagreed with?

I think this is more dog and pony show crap, but I have yet to even see a sub priced for under a dollar anywhere in the U.S.. Even if they sliced it into smaller pieces, the whole sub had to be purchased in the first place.

So the argument that a mega sub, which I am sure is a lot more than a buck, could be cut up, still doesn't change the fact that the whole sub had to be purchased to even cut it into smaller pieces.

This election cycle is getting more pathetic by the day.

The humorous attempts to defend what by "definition" is indeed a violation, is only surpassed by the initial outcry. Would anyone here really vote for anyone because they got, what was most likely a couple slices of meat, a ton of lettuce, limp tomato slices and too much bread?

Both sides need a time out.

As the erudite James Taranto astutely points out in Today's "Best of the Web Today" column in the opinion section over at wsj.com, Obama first cited the Lochner case as an example of the FDR-era Court overturning an act of Congress having to do with the Constitution's Commerce Clause. Obama's exact words, according to the OFFICIAL transcript, were "we have not seen a court overturn [pause] a [pause] law that was passed [pause] by Congress on [pause] a [pause] economic issue, like health care, that I think most people would clearly consider commerce. A law like that has not been overturned [pause] at least since Lochner, right? So we're going back to the '30s, pre-New Deal." Taranto makes the point that Lochner was decided DECADES before "the '30s," in 1905, to be exact, and involved a New York State law, enacted by the legislators in Albanay but having exactly NOTHING to do with Congress' authority to expand the Commerce Clause. A first-year law student might make such a goof. But the former president of the Harvard Law Review, who is said to have taught "constitutional law" at the University of Chicago and who OBVIOUSLY styles himself as some kind of a legal "expert"? PLEASE! His IGNORANCE is matched only by his ARROGANCE.

It is not common for appeals courts to introduce party statements from outside the courtroom and demand explanations, but that’s only because most litigants aren’t dumb enough to make statements outside the courtroom likely to impact their cases.

In the few time this happened it did not turn out well for the petitioning attorney.

Say it with me, Dennis-

Historic. Unprecedented.

Obama is getting taken to school. In fact, he's getting the dunce cap.

The ego? Just got a beat down, with more to come.

Maybe he'll leave on the Intercontinental railroad. I hear Brazil is lovely this time of year.

No Joe,

But it is ok for a historian and scholar like Newt Gingrich with many more years on "The Hill" who wants to send out law enforcement to haul judges before Congress – Right?

Then again you are going against public opinion of the SC. Way too many 5-4 decisions on matters of great importance to our country and the voters.

And isn't judicial restraint exactly what Conservatives are always asking for?

Oh, dear, Dennis. You really need to go back and read your previous cut and paste. I actually thought the fact that you posted it meant there was some hope for you. Now I find out you either didn't read it before you cut and pasted it, or you did not understand what it meant.

It was not good for your idol, Dennis. My bad for not realizing you could not, possibly, be seeing the light.

As to Gingrich- please try to find where I defended that particularly idiotic statement. You cannot- because it does not exist.

You will find statements of mine where I decried Newt's lack of self- discipline, and unsuitableness, (is that a word?), for office. I believe that I once said that,if by some weird twist of fate, he got elected, he'd get NOTHING done-his own party would buck him.

I did decry the waste of a brilliant mind. Lack of self discipline will do that.

So will narcissism. That's Obama's problem.

The Fifth Circuit just slapped him down for just that personal failure.

You defend it no jo, by making issue with what YOUR President said. Obama was, in fact, right, and he doesn't lose his First Amendment rights by the office he holds. In fact, compared to what some on the right have said, Gingrinch for example and wanting to shut down the 9th Circuit, this is simply much ado about nothing. There was also DeLay, who wanted a review panel when he didn't get the decision he wanted on the Shaivo case. So, which is it, politicians aren't allowed to talk about court, or does that only apply to the people you don't like.

This is simply a judge with a complex. Kind of like yours.

If you're still there, Dennis-

I just got off the phone with my niece- former Obama volunteer and voter. Her take? This was directed at Sotomayor.

I never thought of that- but a twenty-something DID.

Bad news, Dennis. Bad news for the cult. The idol is losing followers left, right, and center.

No Joe,

As our resident Poll Dancer, you know better.

Uh, Dennis? My insomnia sucks for me- and for you.

Your posts at 1.22 and 1.39 were totally plagiarized.

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/03/fifth-circuit-calls-out-doj-lawyer-is-your-boss-now-claiming-that-courts-dont-have-the-power-to-strike-down-laws/

Isn't that a CoH violation? I believe it is.

Better report yourself- quick.

most of the people who received subs from Romney and Ryan were voters, not volunteers.

Romney+Ryan=liar, liar, pants on fire...

Ryan's specch yesterday was as dull as an overused raisor. He would do well as a bumber sticker manufacturer- that's about it.

Kind of reminds me of grade school, where if you got caught eating something the teacher would ask if you brought enough for every body.

thats it no sub no vote ill meet you at subway romney

Two observations:

(1) If giving free food to potential voters is illegal, people who accept food stamps shouldn't be allowed to vote.

(2) If Obama is correct in saying the Supreme Court should not overturn laws that affect interstate commerce, then he is de facto agreeing with the Supreme Court decision that upheld the Fugitive Slave Law.

Wow. I bet you thought that was BRILLIANT "logic" denver.

A candidate is not in giving food to voters in the case of food stamps.

You DO know that people aren't property, right?

I see the Conservative choir is singing from the same page today. An argument is needed to deflect attention from a potential Republican campaign contribution and just like that the President doesn't have the right to express an opinion.

This also reflects a Conservative trend toward expressing radical departures from the American tradition as if they are routine and well-precedented. Here's what the Yale Law and Policy Review published, as differentiated from the talk radio world of naked opportunists, college dropouts, drug addicts, and criminals;

There is an alternate universe where everything violates the Tenth Amendment—and much of Congress lives in it. Senator Tom Coburn believes that all federal education programs, from Pell Grants to Title I to student loans, violate the Constitution. [1] Senator Rand Paul thinks that the federal ban on whites-only lunch counters is forbidden.[2] Senator Mike Lee believes that child labor laws, federal disaster relief, food stamps, the Food and Drug Administration, Medicaid, income assistance for the poor, and even Medicare and Social Security violate the Constitution.[3] And, of course, half Congress thinks that health reform is unconstitutional.

Surely it cannot be the case that nearly 100 years worth of major legislation violates the Constitution?

And yet, there is a growing movement on the American right that believes just that. Part I of this Essay begins in familiar territory: the battle over the Commerce Clause. It explains how the ubiquitous lawsuits challenging the Affordable Care Act[4] (ACA) are animated by the same interpretative methodology that characterized the infamous Supreme Court decision concerning child labor laws, Hammer v. Dagenhart—a methodology which allows judges to impose novel and extra-textual limits upon Congress’s enumerated powers.[5] As this Part makes clear, a legal theory that would strike down the ACA bears no resemblance to the much more modest limits on congressional power outlined by modern cases such as United States v. Lopez[6] and United States v. Morrison.[7] Unlike Lopez and Morrison, cases like Hammer and the two recent district court decisions striking down the ACA have no grounding in constitutional text.

http://yalelawandpolicy.org/29-2/worse-than-lochner

Meanwhile, Romney continues his work to buy the Presidency.

Typical Republican BS.

If you can't buy the laws you want - ignore them.

And if you get caught, follow the typical Republican playbook.

• Act surprised.
• Show concern.
• Promise action.
• Do nothing.
• Deny everything.

It's a pretty easy playbook to follow.

Newday...

So a sitting President running for re-election is not a candidate?

You DO know that at the time of the Fugitive Slave law slaves WERE considered property, right?

I've seen more intellectual arguments on playgrounds between 4 year olds, over who's turn it is on the swing, than 95% of the comments made here.

Most of the comments can be boiled down to "Your a poopy head", "Yeah, well your a poopy head", back and forth, ad infinitum...

It is also apparent that the first 50 posts are almost always the worst in this regard.

Time for MSN to develop a "silliness" filter that dumps all the personal attacks into one comment area (for those so inclined), the random rantings (for those so inclined) into another, and the rational debator into a third (for those so inclined.)

That way everyone can read and comment in the manner they wish and those individuals that want rational discussion will be able to hone in on them.

If voters in Wisconsin can be bought off by nothing more than a sub sandwich, what does that say for the mental capacity of voters of Wisconsin?

Well USPB, they have a great and strong political tradition in Wisconsin.

Then they elected Scott Walker as Governor and commenced turning the state into a subsidiary of Koch Industries.

Boy, Bob, that is disingenuous even for a fringe right winger.

Is your President paying for food stamps out of his campaign funds or is it a Federal Program, enacted years ago, before this President was born?

Are people property?

This is simply a case of a fringe right winger, appointed by Reagan, and well known for his whack job decisions jumping the shark.

What you OUGHT to be outraged about is that "judge's" further politicization of the court. That is the problem, nothing else.

Now, do take a course on logic.

What if I give them 2 Big Macs a large fry and a soda, will they promise to not vote for Obama?

Lets see...Mitt gave a little food away and "they" say its buying votes. BOZO gives BILLIONS away in bail outs to unions and thats ok. (RIGHT NOW IM JUST SCRATCHING MY HEAD)

OH I forgot...NEWDAY, YOU can keep BOZO we dont claim him! He may "legaly" be my prez. BUT HE AINT MINE!!!!!

So what is wrong with vaginal probes? I was born with one and I use it all the time :)

The problem with the libs is they probe the other side, where all their ideas come from.

NObama 2012!!! Save America!

truetexan,

EXACTLY!

I'd take Mr. Obama, (that's Obama to you unpatriotic idiots that are attempting to destroy this nation), over any republican, anyday. Hell, republicans giving away anything means someone has given them a 1000% profit off it before they got it and the republicans gave the giver another write off for their donation.

Mikela, not liking Obozo doesn't make us unpatriotic. Just intelligent. I have respect for the Office of the President. I just have none for the man currently in it.

I guess the Dems don't like the Republicans doing what they (the Dem) have been doing for years. Giving something for nothing.

Dems have been buying votes for years with the Promise of Free Healthcare, welfare, housing, whatever the current buzz word is.

Maybe you've conveniently forgotten that it was your choice of President leading us into two unfunded wars costing trillions and the idiotic policies implemented by the republican party (Medicare Part D, trillions in tax breaks without spending cuts to offset them, etc), decimation of regulations that prevented gambling in the financial sector, etc. that led to the worst global recession in almost 80 years happening just a few months before President Obama took office. It takes a long time to fix what you republicans keep breaking, it'd go a lot faster if you'd just get out of the way for the repairs. More jobs have been created under President Obama in the last 24 months than during the entirety of the Bush presidency. We were losing 800,000 jobs per month when he left office and we're gaining 250,000 per month now. Of course, I wouldn't expect honesty from a republican when it comes right down to it.

Giving away free food to voters sounds like campaign fraud to me. I hope Romney gets nailed for it. This is just the beginning of his very dirty, underhanded, dishonest and ruthless campaign.

Wisconsin voters have gotten the last thing they'll ever get from Romney.

He'll 'submarine' the whole country if we don't stop him.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

Republicans gave away a few sandwichs. On the Democratic side the Black Panthers

threaten voters. I'll take the sandwich people.

Yeah ok, and Falk is going to beat Walker too. LOL

Wisconsin Democrats....... and labor unions,............ the staunch......, moral.............., and.....and.......... ethical defenders of electoral law!............ah! stop it!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!,.........I can't breathe!!!!!.........ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!.............You Guys!!!!!!!!!........ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!...........what a bunch of comedians!!!!!!!!!!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!..........

Maybe you forgot that all those things you blame on the former President, were passed and authorized by CONGRESS! Oh, did you know that the Democrats had super majority or enough votes to prevent all of those things. If they were the party of NO then, you wouldn't have to have posted that, as we wouldn't have been in Iraq in the first place.

FACT: Obama added more debt in his first year than the TOTAL cost of the Iraq war.

Hmmmm.... Yet again facts don't play a part of the liberal discussion, just hate and blame someone else.

No one is excusing Bush for what he did wrong, and he did plenty wrong.

BUT, it seems the liberals/Democrats cannot wake up and face the FACT that President Obama's presidency IS A FAILURE!

Do we have to go totally bankrupt and have America destroyed before you fools can admit you made a mistake? It isn't personal. It isn't a full fledge war on Democrats or liberalism, per se. But is very clear, with tons of facts to support the claim.

You wouldn't know honesty if it slapped you in the face! You are so intent on blaming Bush and the Republicans instead of looking in the mirror.

BUSH BAD!
OBAMA BAD!

Pretty simple if you think about it. Just look around. We are NOT better off today than 4 years ago. It's pretty simple if you think about it.

NObama 2012! Save America!

Too late. This administration is going to be in the highly embarassing position of having to retreat from the fully indefensibly remarks of the most egotistical idiot to ever hold the office of presidency.

And, like the tree in the forest, it will never be heard here.

You have to be talking about BUsh right? I mean the Administration in power tight now is still cleaning up the mess your party left behind.

FACT: Obama added more debt in his first year than the TOTAL cost of the Iraq war.

Why stop there tell them that 70% of the debt is on three presidents. All Republican and the last recession/ depression was caused by REPUBLICANS. All this BS which has nothing to do with the story is just right wing propoganda and the reason you people on the right cannot find another dummy like Bush to try and put in the WH.

denver bill 2 - totally ignorant post but my guess is you knew that when you posted it. People who get food stamps represent every party and aren't required to vote for a particular candidate to get the stamps.

I see the mental midget far right wingers are out in force today; no jo, bob in VA, winemaker, etc. So sad to have to make excuses for a candidate like Romney while the Democrats have a very good President Obama representing us. You guys just have pathetic luck, don't ya? First Bush, then McCain/Palin, now Romney. No brains in any of them and I guess it takes no brains to support them. Oh, well. Pretty pathetic really!

Still no sanity to be found in the GOP!

Everything I mentioned in my post was passed in the early years of the Bush presidency when the republicans controlled the House, the Senate, and the White House. All of them combined have already added more than 7 trillion dollars to the national debt and most of those policies continue to add to the debt to this day. Just letting the tax cuts passed originally in 2001 expire would knock about 1.5 trillion dollars off the debt in less than a decade. Getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan completely would remove another trillion dollars (and they've already cost the country more than 3 trillion dollars). Reality always seems to get in the way of republican rhetoric.

Twist as you will, attack as you must and distort as you have to cause you have no other defense.

What I am saying is the Democrats are JUST as guilty as the Republicans, as they could have stopped the madness, but DIDN'T.

With that, my point is Obama has made it worse not better. I'm not blaming the Democrats or the Republicans, but OBAMA. He is a bad president, just like Bush was a bad president.

Is that simple enough for you Obamatrons to at least comprehend?

Golly Gee coracii, Obama has SUPPORTED, PROMOTED and ENCOURAGED the continuation of the tax cuts. So what is your point? It's OK when Obama does it, but wrong when Bush did it? Really read before you post, your rhetoric is amuzing, but it makes no sense!

PS: Your numbers are WRONG. If you would like to post where you got that from it would be interesting to read. My numbers came DIRECTLY from the CBO, so you can look them up if you like :)

Just letting the tax cuts passed originally in 2001 expire would knock about 1.5 trillion dollars off the debt in less than a decade. Getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan completely would remove another trillion dollars (and they've already cost the country more than 3 trillion dollars).

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1) You ASSume that the revenue being taxed would continue as is under a different tax regime.

2) Iraq ended on the timetable established by the Bush administration before it left office. The "good war" initiated in response to 9/11, per Obama, continues in Afghanistan.

Cincinnati Rick - yes the Iraq war ended on the timetable established by Bush and opposed by the GOP. President Obama stood his ground and ended it as it should have been even though McCain and the majority of the GOP wanted to extend it. Your point???

SeekingSanity,

Confusion, panic and disorder ..... my work here is done.

denver bill 2 - you're confused, panicked and disordered???? I think you came here that way - only fair you leave the same way. Again, seeking sanity in the GOP but there is none to be found!

Feisty - it must make you laugh that you are so on-target with your posts that the mental midget far right wingers collapse every post you make! Right on girl!

Romney giving away some sandwiches? The democrats having been giving away EVERYTHING for years. This is why this country is as messed up as it is right now. They say republicans constantly say "Drill baby drill", well democrats say "Print baby print", money that is. All this money printing has caused severe inflation and it won't get any better. Please stop the presses!

Since when do democrats complain about a free lunch?? Weird!!

truetexan

mikela...Go lay down. Thats what I tell my dumb dog. But then again I think he smarter than you or your race baiting left wing screwballs.

Unlike your dog, I don't lay down with my hands over my ears regardless of how many times you'd kick me. Ya see, there ya go with another conservative lie... you said you think and that's something you right wing extremists simply do not do... think!

Thanks, Fore--now I have that song in my head.

So much for the Romney campaign machine---campaign law violations. Too bad they didn't hand out Etch-a-Sketches.

Speaking of songs in the head, y'all saw the article about the Beatles kids, right? Tell you what - if they pull that off, the presidential race will get pushed down a bit on the list of significant stories of the year.

Republican votes must come cheaply these days.

too complicated for the rwnj's

Wayne, must be...

Republican votes must come cheaply these days

Obama only expects his supporters to pay him $35,000/plate for the priviledge to vote for him, and people tthink obama is for the little guy...LOL!

Well, if you think Romney will make a good president, you are in for a rude awakening. The guy is ok for showboating. He would probably make a good fashion model. That is not going to be one cent worth anything when it comes to foreign policy and especially dealing with terrorism, which is far from going away. Wake up...there are some things that have not gone away and are just waiting for a "pip squeak" to emerge. Like him or not, Obama has shown a courage that America needs...deal with it.

kiwi333 are you serious? “Obama has shown courage.” Was it when he was bowing to foreign leaders or was it when he was taking credit for the Navy Seals killing his brother Osama. Obama is a filthy coward that has never been in harm’s way for this Country. I could think of a lot of words to describe him but courage or courageous is not it.

The liberals have tried to paint wealthy people like Romney as stingy or out of touch. When Romney gives out some sandwiches, they cry about that. Obama buys votes everyday with "Obama Bucks". Because his base is either the lazy parasites, of this Country, or the people with no moral compass.

Obama's foreign policy was be nice to the Muslims and they will like us...How is that working out for us. The idiot in chief has not accomplished anything, except forcing Obama care on us and that will shortly be overturned by the Supreme Court.

The sad part is that politicians, whether they are Democrat or Republican, believe the law does not apply to them. Enough said.

The republican party of years gone by is no more. The far right crazies have taken over the once grand ole party and turn it into a joke a minute party. Just look at Palin. There are many former republican that will be voting for President Obama because all the lies, flip-flopping and just out right crazy ideas that the Republican Party now wastes time and money on. They voted against their own ideas. The American people can see that the republican do not care about the middle class only the rich. Trickle-down economics has failed.

Now say what you want but there is a race problem when it comes to President Obama. The level of disrespect shown to him so far is truly amazing. And coming up with lame excuses as to not admit this is about the color of his skin is just so funny.

Never have the American people so disrespected their President like what is going on now. And yes this is about race. There is no other reason. The birther issue is a joke and everyone with half a brain knows that if he was not an American citizen, none of the republican leaders or democratic leaders would have allow him to be sworn in. If McCain, Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy, McConnell, Ryan, Romney, Santorum, Gingrich and Paul accepts him as President why is this still trying to be an issue. It is not. The governor of Hawaii Linda Lingle a republican and the Hawaii director of the State Department of Health has both certified that he was born there. Yet you birthers want the official in Hawaii to violate their state laws to satisfy you. If you birthers don’t believe these people then why are you not screaming for them to be voted out? Having to show his college transcripts, birth certificate, school records are just lame excuses. President Obama has proven all he needs to prove to the leaders in Washington from both parties. If you do not believe these republican leaders then that only proves nothing will convince you of the truth. Believe the lies if that makes you feel like you are not a racist. All of you racist have been looking for other lame excuse to challenge him so you don't have to look yourselves in the face and admit you are a racist.

This current economic situation we are in took many years to get where we are at. You all expect President Obama to fix it overnight. That is impossible. Unlike the Republican leaders who will follow along with anything their leadership says, the Democrats have not. They have addressed the needs of the people within their districts and if their voters did not like something that the President or Congress was trying to do then they voted against it. So the super majority issue is a non-player. Democrats do not have robots that follow everything the Koch brother says.

I am a moderate independent. I believe in having my guns but I also believe women should be able to choose what happens with their own bodies. If men can their insurance pay for Viagra and the insurance should also pay for birth control.

You can get any poll to say anything depending on how you word the questions. Most people that disagree with the current Affordable Health Care Act wanted a single payer option in it. Instead of the Republicans trying to work with the Democrats to pass this law, they did everything in their power to try and derail it. Why, because they are hell bent on not having anything get done for the American people while President Obama is in office.

And for why the race issue keeps coming up, this is about President Obama’s race plain and simple. There are more voters out here that believe in "Anybody but the Republican Clowns" than there for anybody but Obama. The Republican Party is no more. It should call itself the crazy party because of all the crazy mouthpieces they have.

Nice job Master Sgt. I am one of those who voted for Reagan once. The second time it was all over between me and the republican party, and my family has voted republican since it was the Grand New Party and Lincoln was their man. They offer nothing for the average person or the average family. In my family Mom, Dad, son and daughter are voting Democratic again. Our yellow dog wishes she could too. She does wear her "Dogs Against Romney" bandana proudly.

Off topic entirely truetexan, but if you want to bring it up. Why is it that in an area with less than 20% of the population being black that George Zimmerman called 911 seven times in 6 months to report individuals acting suspiciously (out of the 46 total calls he made to 911) and every single one of the seven calls was to report a black person? In those calls, not a single one of the people he reported were found to have done anything wrong. You think that's coincidence or did he have a mentality against black people that made him assume they were automatically guilty of some crime?

Thank you for your comment and your service to our country RET_MSGT.

Watching President Obama's speech yesterday, I was struck by the long list of accomplishments that he credited to Republican presidents of the past. When deciding whether to vote for him in the last election, I made my decision based on his determination to reach across the aisle and work with Republicans. I have never voted along any party line, but I must admit that I have voted for more Republicans than I have Democrats in my lifetime. However, in presidential races, I have voted Democrat since I voted for Clinton. I made the mistake of voting for Reagan and the right choice in voting for Bush SR. During the 8 years of the Clinton administration, I was more prosperous than any other time in my life with half the effort it takes to now barely keep my head above water.

Newt Gingrich's Republican revolution signaled the end of the Republican party of old. Shutting down the government to make a statement, inflexible positions on taxes, calling Democrats big government crooks while raising earmarks to an art form (the K Street Project is where he taught freshman conservative congressmen to do that), blaming the working class for all of our problems and along with the rise of conservative talk radio, moving the party so far to the right that I am amazed that they don't where hoods and burn crosses at their conventions. BTW, other than Gingrich and Bush Jr., Santorum (the most investigated member of congress in history) and the 1%er poster boy Mitt Romney are symbols of why I'll most likely vote for ANYONE but a Republican for the rest of my life.

What this country needs more, now than ever, is the Republican party of old. Where being a moderate meant that you could accomplish more. Where conservative ideas that now a day go way to far could be tempered by saner more common sense voices. Because, as the Republican party has moved further right, the Democrats have moved closer to the center. A good example is that Presidents Clinton and Obama have been demonized as too liberal when they are no where near that.

So much could be accomplished if the reasonable thinking people in the Republican party would not have to hide their common sense for fear of Grover Norquist and the Tea Party. If there are any sane people left on the right, (and by judging the comment in this thread, I won't hold my breath), please ignore the racist, big corporation paid for, stooges of the 1% and restore sanity to the Republican party.

kiwi,

Well, if you think Romney will make a good president, you are in for a rude awakening

So many of us thought Obama would make a good president, and we woke from the nightmare!

Romney, or anyone for that matter would make a better president than Obama!

The progressives have taken over the Democratic party and made it much worse the the crazies that took over the GOP. Simple math will demonstrate this, just read the projections from the CBO. They cannot project past 2022, the debt is off the charts. This trend STARTED in 2010, NOT DURING BUSH'S TERM.

I do NOT like Bush, and won't defend him, but I won't place Obama's mistakes on Bush. I'm not a liberal :)

NObama 2012! Save America!

At least it did not cost the taxpayers ........Obama is buying votes with expanded entitlements programs.

Ret_MSgt - thank you for your service and for a well written post. You are right on target.

independent voter - I'm afraid the country will have to wait a very long time to see if the GOP can ever return to a party of intelligence and ethics. So far there is no indication that is going to happen.

truetexan - you don't even want to face the truth so trying to explain it is of no value.

wtfwwus and 1Hiram - your ignorance is only overshadowed by your eagerness to show how totally ignorant you are.

Coracii.. #1 what is your source of info.?? #2 He HAS black family who supports him (as in NOT racist) #3 that neighborhood has problems with breakins. And who gives a rats butt WHAT color someone is?? YOU PEOPLE AND THE "NEWS" are making it a race thing without knowing ANYTHING about it except what has been (admittadly) distorted by the "news"!!! IF that man is guilty I say string him up!! If not leave him alone!! GET THE TRUE FACTS FIRST!!! Whatever they may be!

SeekingSanity...you have your tag correct! I just wish you would find it!

truetexan - as I said, I'm seeking sanity in the GOP but clearly there is none to be found -especially when they have people like you as supporters!

SeekingSanity... HAHAHAHAHAHA Keep searching but you WONT find it in the democ-RATS.

truetexan as been said the truth will set you free. I did my research unlike you I just don't believe everything FAUX news says. Identify something in my statement that is not the truth. But I also guess you think our governor (Perry) is great for the American people. He was the second biggest joke in the campaign next to Bachman

I'm sure Gov. Rick will be looking for Federal funds to help clean up DallASS TexASS, like he did for the drought and hurricanes and floods that Obama created.

Ret_MSgt - again right on target!

truetexan - you're truly hopeless!

You can't tell me the components in a sub sandwich cost more than $1.00. When you go to Subway you can get a footlong for $5. Most of what you are paying for is the overhead and labor.

There's no overhead and labor when it's volunteer work.

What's illegal about it? If you can't prove that subs components costs more than $1.00, then Romney did NOTHING ILLEGAL!!!!

I knew you were a dumb fux, Fiesty, but geez, that's just over the top stupid.

That's my point, "little buddy", where does the law say "retail"? If the law doesn't specifically say "retail value" then it's open to interpretation. I already agreed that it's the OVERHEAD is why sandwiches cost so much, but there is NO OVERHEAD when you AREN'T PAYING ANYONE (i.e. volunteer) to make it. If it's just the cost of the components of a sandwich, you can easily make one for under $1.

If the law says "retail value" then I'll concede the point. If not, you've just handed me your ass.

At least that "BIMBO" was offering to "UN ZIP MITT FOR EVERYONE" !

@Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL - So you admit you don't have a clue and are flailing in the dark for talking points. Thanks, FRR, nice chatting with you...

See RationalOne, this is another example of rushing to judgement. See, the Liberal's don't know all the facts, so what they have to do is make up facts......i.e. NBC editing audio tape is just a good example or the morons on these boards and we know who they are. Another good one is the "War on Women", which is a big freaking joke. Sometimes the Liberals get one right, I can't think of one right now.

I wonder why it's not reported that Michele Obama is telling kids to tell their grandparents to vote for her husband? Ah, that's another story you won't see on MSNBC. My favorite is that most likely somebody leaked from SCOTUS that Obama might had lost his prize accomplishment. See, I won't accuse that somebody did, but why would Obama get in front of the nation and threaten the SCOTUS? Time will tell..................

The Romney campaign responded with this statement from spokesman Rick Gorka: "President Obama and his allies keep wading in to the Republican primary, whether voting for Mitt Romney's opponents or absurdly claiming we can't provide refreshments for volunteers

How about you bright folks prove they weren't volunteers?

Desperate. You people are really, really desperate.

Gonna be a long hot summer for you "Burning Coal Walkers"

I absolutely refuse to bang my head off the all with these idiots...

It is good to see ya!

Ditto!

By the way I loved your; "Not in your wildest dreams little buddy... You have a LONG way to go before you would even be considered to be worthy of MY ass! Still laughing at that one!!

White Collar Auto

The Romney campaign responded with this statement from spokesman Rick Gorka: "President Obama and his allies keep wading in to the Republican primary, whether voting for Mitt Romney's opponents or absurdly claiming we can't provide refreshments for volunteers

How about you bright folks prove they weren't volunteers?

Feisty has more patience than I do, as I'll only give one attempt to explain this to you WC.

There is no difference between a campaign volunteer and any other voter. Just because a person is volunteering their time for a cause doesn't mean their vote is any different than anyone else's vote. They are a voter. A sandwich purchased at Cousins Subs costing more than $1 and given as a gesture to someone to vote or to refrain from voting violates WI law.

Is that simple enough for you?

Don't want to brag Brian, but my ass is still mighty fine... lol

I have no reason to doubt you! And I hope you don't take offense to this, but living half a country apart I'll unfortunately simply have to take your word for it rather than ever having the pleasure of being able to attest to the fact by seeing you in person.

Is that simple enough for you?

you're wasting your time trying to reason with these nut jobs. Rules? Only applicable to the other guys and anyway, we make 'em up as we go along! Or we bend 'em like a Gumby. Must be hell spending all of your time on this type of stuff.

Hey Rational One - here's a song for you from Feisty "dadadumdumdum another one bites the dust!"

But fiesty, you are the epitomy of what an ignorant azz is. Oppps! Ignorance can be cured, guess that makes fiesty a stupid azz...

And, another Obama cult member betrays his ignorance.

Nomoresameo- in this country, NOBODY can be forced to prove a negative. Therefore, it is incumbent on the ninnies who raised this non-issue to prove the people eating the subs were OT volunteers.

Not the other way around.

Geez. What kind of civics teacers did you people have? Cause, I'm here to tell you- you know NOTHING about this country.

no joe........I do not believe there was a problem with any of my civics teachers or the students. But I do question the pupil or the Civics and English teachers in your school system. The article and the law were very basic and most anyone should have been able to follow along.

From the article:

Yet after handing out subs with House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, Romney says:

"I want to thank you for voting. Get your friends to go vote; get some friends to go with you. That's how you can legally vote multiple times. So bring your friends out to the polling place, get out and vote. And if you want another sandwich, there are more back there."

Again. It doesn't matter if a person was someone Romney didn't know or if a person was a volunteer with his campaign, if they are voting (and it makes it clear they were) he violated WI law by giving them something valued at more than $1.

While you may want to believe that I don't know anything about this country, I will be here waiting for you to make another asinine comment that provides everyone the evidence that you know even less about this country, it's laws, English comprehension and basic common sense than most anyone posting their opinions here.

Your statement was that the Romney people had to "prove " they were not volunteers.

That involves proving a negative.

It's unAmerican.

Yammer all you like- your knowledge of civics is lacking.

Have a good night.

Can you actually be this obtuse?

no joe, no bo, nj

Your statement was that the Romney people had to "prove " they were not volunteers.

That involves proving a negative.

It's unAmerican.

Yammer all you like- your knowledge of civics is lacking.

Have a good night.

Where in my statement did I say that the Romney people had to prove they were not volunteers? Regardless of any other thing, a volunteer or anyone else who is voting can not be given anything valued at more than $1 for voting according to WI law.

The fact remains that Romney and anyone else offering free sub sandwiches to anyone voting violated existing law. If he decides to ignore this law, what other laws will he decide to overlook? He has set a precedent and we have all seen it.

You and Romney seem like a good fit. Ignore basic information and try to spin it to look like you are right and everyone is wrong.

Try your post at 3.17.

How about you bright folks prove they weren't volunteers?

You demanded that they prove a negative.

Unconstitutional. UnAmerican.

Checkmate.

Good night.

FRED! Come dude this is a PMSnbc site these idiots have absolutely no bleeping clue about what fast & furious is (most think its a movie about race cars)

Most of the idiots here think One Big A$$ Mistake America has lowered the debt

I don't know which is more incompetent, Obama or the so called attorney general Holder. These two make Forrest Gump look like Einstein. I look at Obama sometimes and wonder if he is back on the crack pipe.

His foreign policy is a failure,

He still has no budget,

Guantanamo bay / gitmo is still in operation,

The patriot act is more invasive than when George Bush was in,

Gas prices are twice as much as when he took office,

Obama care is a failure,

There are more people on public assistance than ever,

The national debt is about fifteen times higher than when he took office,

We lost the Canadian pipe line and twenty thousand jobs,

He has completely failed at "green energy" companies.

Has this dumb a— — done anything right?

I don't know which is more incompetent, Obama or the so called attorney general Holder. These two make Forrest Gump look like Einstein. I look at Obama sometimes and wonder if he is back on the crack pipe.

His foreign policy is a failure, (explain with examples, because Bin Laden is dead, Ghadafi is dead, Less terrorists shows his foreign policy is awesome)

He still has no budget, (its not his job to produce a budget, that is congress's job)

Guantanamo bay / gitmo is still in operation, (I agree with you on this one)

The patriot act is more invasive than when George Bush was in, (I actually agree with you on this also)

Gas prices are twice as much as when he took office, (the president doesnt control gas prices, its a free market thing, something republicans usually like, so not sure why you are upset about this)

Obama care is a failure, (Obamacare doesnt really go into effect until 2014, so not sure how you can call it a failure yet)

There are more people on public assistance than ever, (yes on the face this is true, however people were losing jobs at a rate of 750,000 a month when he took office, not sure you can blame him for what Bush's policies did)

The national debt is about fifteen times higher than when he took office, (thats what happens down the road when you have 2 unpaid wars and 2 tax cuts that werent paid for. The cost actually gets pushed a few years away)

We lost the Canadian pipe line and twenty thousand jobs, (we havent lost the pipeline, its been postponed for research and it would have created 6500 jobs)

He has completely failed at "green energy" companies. (Lots of companies fail before they succeed, being a free market and capitlist country we were taught this in school. Not even the big oil companies succeeded on their first tries, their successes came after several failures, allow green energy the same failures.)

Has this dumb a— — done anything right? (hope I have answered your questions. He has done alot right, but it wouldnt matter with the right, in their eyes he could never do anything right)

no joe, no bo, nj

Try your post at 3.17.

How about you bright folks prove they weren't volunteers?

You demanded that they prove a negative.

Unconstitutional. UnAmerican.

Checkmate.

Good night.

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Before declaring check-mate you may want to learn to play chess. The post you say I used was a copy/paste from "White Collar Auto" that he used in post 3.14. So if you want to say that it is un-American/unconstitutional or just plain idiotic; fine. Just remember that it was from another of the people on the GOP side that you are so fully supporting.

RationalOne - you do know how totally stupid you look with your posts about the costs of subs, don't you?

Paul in Florida - why am I not surprised you're from Florida? (And, no, that is not a compliment)

no jo - your posts are so ridiculous they aren't even worth reading so I always scroll past them. Lie after lie after fairy tale and hatred. That's all you spew. Did you even finish elementary school???

jmsmith - I'm guessing you're related to no jo - explains the total lack of intelligence.

nomoresameo - explaining facts to someone whose IQ is in the 40's is very hard so you might just give up on no jo!

LMAO! I see Frothy Redhead is all worked up over some sandwiches. Frothy, STFU. It's obvious by the number of collapses you're getting that people are tired of your nonsensical rampages.

I can't believe that feeding a few people would turn people into such a rabid pack of dogs. Gawd, get a life!

"SeekingSanity"...when faced with FACTS you libs go to name calling. I HOPE you find your sanity one day!

You guys are all nuts. Debating something as stupid as a "sub"- REALLY! My husband has been out of a job for 4 years. How about the unemployed that would like a sub - I don't get my date nights paid for or flown everywhere on taxpayers dollars. Lets forget the sub and get on with what the real issues are: jobs so people can pay for their own subs, afford their own houses and not have to live in slab city. Just who does this bickering help????????

from reading the posts on this blog, what puzzles me most is how right wing nuts could totall defy logic and reason. they seem like a totally new specie of scary mutants with no brains. imagine half of the country should be occupied by these destructive zombies. if hey should grow any brain cells by any miracle. I hope they would start thinking that "There's no such thing as free lunches!" whatever a vulture businessman like romney would give out, he will take back 1000 times. little do those free-loaders munching on those subs know that if they should put him in office, he will make them pay big for return of the lousy cheap subs that make them fatter and more stupid than a pig.

Have charges been filed???........or is anyone even talking of charges being formally filed against Romney???? NO.....so far this is only opinion based.

truetexan - again, no sanity to be found in the GOP.

an Independent - right on.

1Hiram - I believe if you read you will see the flagrant disregard for campaign laws is under investigation.

In true Romney tradition, they were ham... no, turkey... no, tuna... wait, cold cut combo... meatball?... definitely ham... like Romney always says (in eastern PA), he's a cheese steak man...

Hey Paul,

Someone could ask Romney, "Where's the beef!"

Don't know about the meat, but the company of 'pink slime' fame filed for bankruptcy today!

As for boloney, Newt knows baloney when he sees it, eats it. Doubt that Willard knows anything about compressed meat parts!

Newt usually has a Bologna sub stuffed in each jacket pocket.

In the good old days, they used to encourage people to vote with liquor. I miss the good old days.

Phine, I think they need hard drugs to get people to vote for the rich man's party against their own interests!

Lets face it, if your vote can be bought with a ham sammidge, you'll vote republican anyway.

Chucky - so TRUE!

Rules are rules and they are not made to be broken. Dems were within their rights to complain; you can bet the GOP would have done the same.

Just make sure all those sub-eating folks are registered and can prove where they live - else we might have voter fraud in the works!

I guess the only ones that have the right to complain about anything are the republicans because we all know "Its Ok If You Are A Republican"

So we should just ignore everytime the republicans violate election law? Sounds like the standard republican playbook to me.

That's Wisconsin Law, and if they want to prove it let them spend taxpayer dollars and bring Romney to court.

What about chips?

Beverage and chips included......Willards' got it!

Come on everyone, It is just part of King Romney's new slogan- A Sub for Every Subject!

No more "a chicken in every pot" that Hoover called for? Sad.

I don't know which is more incompetent, Obama or the so called attorney general Holder. These two make Forrest Gump look like Einstein. I look at Obama sometimes and wonder if he is back on the crack pipe.

His foreign policy is a failure,

He still has no budget,

Guantanamo bay / gitmo is still in operation,

The patriot act is more invasive than when George Bush was in,

Gas prices are twice as much as when he took office,

Obama care is a failure,

There are more people on public assistance than ever,

The national debt is about fifteen times higher than when he took office,

We lost the Canadian pipe line and twenty thousand jobs,

He has completely failed at "green energy" companies.

Has this dumb a— — done anything right?

I don't know which is more incompetent, Obama or the so called attorney general Holder. These two make Forrest Gump look like Einstein. I look at Obama sometimes and wonder if he is back on the crack pipe.

His foreign policy is a failure,

He still has no budget,

Guantanamo bay / gitmo is still in operation,

The patriot act is more invasive than when George Bush was in,

Gas prices are twice as much as when he took office,

Obama care is a failure,

There are more people on public assistance than ever,

The national debt is about fifteen times higher than when he took office,

We lost the Canadian pipe line and twenty thousand jobs,

He has completely failed at "green energy" companies.

Has this dumb a— — done anything right?

jmsmith - if you're looking for the most incompetent it would clearly be you! Your posts show such ignorance and lack of authenticity. You're just a pathetic little GOP right winger who should go back to watching Fox so you can bring up more hatred. Your list is moronic and has been blasted so often in the past. You clearly don't have a clue.

I'm still laughing, that's like the "pot calling the kettle black." Nooooooo, the Democrats are not guilty of buying votes with my tax money (nearly half of voters don't pay income taxes, you better pray the rich stay rich), their not guilty of black preachers campaigning for Democrats from the pulpit. Their not guilty of the cemetery voting in elections. The Democrats are not guilty paying people to vote more than once (re: Acorn). Should I go on?

floyd - you lie and think you convince anyone with that? Again, pathetic!

...or frothy stuff

Topped with Prickadilly... Hey FEISTY who told you what a Prickadilly is your daughter.

V-Bob, How many trillions did "W" spend at the expence of your ignorance?

Bob, how about the trillions that Bush handed out????

My favorite is the billions that disappeared in Iraq.
Or how about the billions handed out to Cheney's Haliburton?

Is Bush running again?

Based on todays comments one might think so.

Nice to see you all got your Tree House Talking point for the day.

But folks, Blaming or using Bush is old and tired.

I do however encourage you all to keep blaming Bush.. I am sure it will be a very effective 2012 strategy.

For Romney.

No, White Collar, the talking point, as always, is the mendacity of the GOP and it's chain of fools.

Obama/Biden 2012

In 2008, Senator Obama was considered too inexperienced to be President---it was asked, what had he ever run? Our answer--well, he's run a flawless multi-million dollar campaign. He was derided as a "community organizer".

In 2012 we are told to vote for Mitt Romney because of his business experience. His campaign previously ran an ad with a blatant misquote, allowed him to be shown in an empty stadium for a major speech and now participates in an illegal campaign activity.

White Collar Auto

Is Bush running again?

Based on todays comments one might think so.

Yes. Mustn't talk about He Who Must Not Be Named! Everything that's not Obama's fault is Clinton's fault.

White Collar Auto

Is Bush running again?

No, but you and your party can't run away fast or far enough from the conservative republican-war-time-economic-genious-dept-spending-big-government-impeachable-president and so on and so on. somebody help me out here, what else do conservative like to forget about him? (impeachable for breaking federal law, the Hatch act.)

Bush may not be running this time but half of his advisors are on the Romney team. If that isn't enough to scare voters away from Mitt, I don't know what would be.

Is Bush running again?

Nope, thank god!....But all the right-wingers sure do run AWAY from any mention of Dubya! Even the TeaPeople candidates don't mention him, his policies or want to be seen with him!

Why is that?

It will be fun to watch how many Dems run away from Obama and his failed legislation in 2012. We already know that very few wanted to be seen with him in 2010.

COme on Houston, I'm begging you guys to keep bringing him up. Every chance you get.

Also folks, nice to see your shiny new word is "mendacity".

Been watching 'Cat on a Hot Tin Roof"?

You're starting to slip Feisty. Again, where is Reid's plan?

Must be on that third glass of wine already.

Maybe you better call it a night.

GT.....NOT as much as your "messiah!" Your ignorance is showing.......Obama = more SPENDING than ALL other presidents COMBINED! Let that sink into your liberally diseased mind...LMAO!

WCA - you are like a parrot - repeating everything you hear from Fox over and over and over, etc.

GaryL - and another mental midget joins the group. The only people I ever hear referring to Obama as messiah is the far right wingnuts. The fact that he can run circles around the buffoons you guys run really embarrasses you doesn't it? And, we would talk about your diseased mind but you would actually have to have one.

You mean like all of those Democrat stooges who voted blindly for Obamacare without knowing about all of the new taxes, onderous regulations and other little goodies buried in that more than 2,000-page Frankenstein monstrosity of a bill written by Obama-allied special interest lobbyists? Why else would Nasty Nancy Pelosi tell them to just "pass the bill so you can find out what's in it"?

Oh, and the resulting narrow 219-212 party-line victory in the House hardly qualifies as a "strong majority" in favor of the bill that Obama said it had in essentially trying to order the Supreme Court not to overturn it. One wonders what school he attended that would teach him that a bare 7-vote win out of over 430 votes cast, while sufficient to pass it into law, constitutes a "strong majority." Obviously, he was taught by someone who does't know English (or math) very well. Where did he go to school, in Indonesia or somewhere? OH, WAIT........

I don't know which is more incompetent, Obama or the so called attorney general Holder. These two make Forrest Gump look like Einstein. I look at Obama sometimes and wonder if he is back on the crack pipe.

His foreign policy is a failure,

He still has no budget,

Guantanamo bay / gitmo is still in operation,

The patriot act is more invasive than when George Bush was in,

Gas prices are twice as much as when he took office,

Obama care is a failure,

There are more people on public assistance than ever,

The national debt is about fifteen times higher than when he took office,

We lost the Canadian pipe line and twenty thousand jobs,

He has completely failed at "green energy" companies.

Has this dumb a— — done anything right?

jmsmith - and you continue to be the one showing how big a dumb a** you are!

Cousin's is waaay better than Subway. Firehouse Subs rules, though. The Romney campaign should have just said: "OOOOPS!. . .Sorry." I doubt anyone was trying to buy votes and I hope a sub isn't enough to truly influence how anyone votes. They compounded this minor violation by denying they broke a law. That's what makes this a little scary.

He handed out some sandwiches to a handful of people, it was a very small oversight to a campaign rule that most probably didn't know... forging signatures and stuffing ballot boxes on the other hand, is how the Dem.s get votes. P.S. forging signatures is a felony in this country, handing out sandwiches is, well, just a nice thing to do for people.

Would you perfer that they get Obama Bucks?

I don't know which is more incompetent, Obama or the so called attorney general Holder. These two make Forrest Gump look like Einstein. I look at Obama sometimes and wonder if he is back on the crack pipe.

His foreign policy is a failure,

He still has no budget,

Guantanamo bay / gitmo is still in operation,

The patriot act is more invasive than when George Bush was in,

Gas prices are twice as much as when he took office,

Obama care is a failure,

There are more people on public assistance than ever,

The national debt is about fifteen times higher than when he took office,

We lost the Canadian pipe line and twenty thousand jobs,

He has completely failed at "green energy" companies.

Has this dumb a— — done anything right?

She lives in Illinois D McMillen......come on, the most corrupt state in the land and you would have expected anything less? LOL!

D McMillen - so why are you on here????

GaryL - and where do you live? In podunk, alabama? That the way you sound!!!! I'd laugh but you're more pitiable than funny!

I'm on here because I was in between college classes that I am taking AFTER I retired. And what's your beef with Gary? Illinois does have a long and distinguished record of corrupt politics. How can you tell how he sounds by a post. You are the one that sounds pitiable. And for the record, don't mistake a Southern drawl to mean that someone is not educated, or even better, wise.

J Knight, that's funny, because Bush was pumping money into Solyndra before he left office, hearing Obama talking about doing more 'green energy' during his campaign speeches. The problem with that though, was that by the time Obama started pushing more money to those 'green energy' companies, China started flooding the market with cheap solar equipment that no U.S. company could compete with price-wise. Of course there wasn't any 'no-bid' contracts likened to the Bush war years, which included Halliburton, Bechtel Corp., private security firms, Iraq oil proceeds, rebuild-Iraq contracts. But let's just forget looking behind THAT curtain, right, we might not like what we see as to the corrupt ways of the GOP.

Fantomdog, forget about the political party for one moment. Why aren't all these people that were involed in the Soylndra fiasco in jail. I guess it's just as easy to lose (hide) money in the U.S. as it is overseas no matter what political party is in office. Boy, do I wish there were some viable third choice. Everyone is corrupt and the U.S. is getting to the point where it won't be able to recover financially like it has in the past. We're following in the footsteps of Greece. It sucks to be governed by these liars and losers from both parties.

Same reason all the people involved in collapsing the U.S. economy in 2008 aren't in jail. Same reason the people in the Bush administration that violated the Geneva Convention and started an illegal war in Iraq based on deliberate lies aren't in jail. Prison time is only for the little people.

the war in iraq was not illegal. good god are you uninformed!!!

chad - and yet there are warrants out for both Bush and Cheney for war crimes. Neither can travel out of the country for fear of being arrested.

Of course there wasn't any 'no-bid' contracts likened to the Bush war years, which included Halliburton, Bechtel Corp., private security firms, Iraq oil proceeds, rebuild-Iraq contracts. But let's just forget looking behind THAT curtain, right, we might not like what we see as to the corrupt ways of the GOP.

No need to go through the charade of bidding - they already had decided who the money was going to, back before the invasion was discussed. Cheney had told GW to work out the plan to get it done ... he had already sold Haliburton on the deal and planned how to divvy up the profits.

NYC, not millions, but billions of dollars given away to green companies. How pathetic the democrats are. How many times have they paid actual voters off with cigarettes, booze, had their campaign workers caught with uncounted ballots in the back of their vehicles? How soon the democrats forget. It is not a big deal giving people something to eat after the fact and with zero impact on the votes. Also, do not forget the people they bussed in to precincts for free, during elections. I have also got to ask, when is feisty going to have the privileges revoked for some amount of time by Newsvine? I have never seen so much inflammatory statements, name calling, etc, and newsvine comments collapsed by the community in my whole life. Either feisty knows someone or newsvine is turning their heads.

As you can see.....Dems are famous for the line....."Do as I say, NOT as I do!" LMFAO!

Crying like babies...LOL!

Really, so what if he gave free food. Harry Reed did it when he was campaigning to be reelected-and he did it to bring people to vote for him. I love how liberals think they are the only ones who matter and can do what they want, but nobody else can. This country should be thinking about the major problems we are in and about fixing the mess the O great one has done to this country rather than worrying about a subway sandwich.

How soon will it be before Romney takes the food off the table for many thousands, if not even millions, of American workers ?

NYC - lies lies and more lies. How pathetic you and the rest of your far right loonies are that you have to resort to lies to make an argument. You DO realize don't you that when you lie to make a point - you've already lost! Another far right mental midget heard from!

Kanic - a TOTAL lie. Why would you even make a post that you know is completely false? That all ya got?