Obama camp airs response TV ad

 

The Obama campaign is up with its second significant TV ad of the cycle, this one a response to a recent $3 million-plus ad blitz by the American Energy Alliance, a group with ties to the conservative Koch Brothers.

The new Obama ad -- which will air in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, Ohio, and Virginia -- also knocks Mitt Romney.

An Obama campaign official adds to First Read: "We saw it as an opportunity to highlight the president's energy record."

It's worth noting that the campaign's first TV ad was in response to another anti-Obama advertisement by a group -- Americans for Prosperity -- with ties to the Koch Brothers.

The script of the new TV ad:

Under President Obama, domestic oil production’s at an eight-year high.

So why is Big Oil attacking him?

Because he’s fighting to end their tax breaks.

He’s raising mileage standards, and doubling renewable energy.

In all these fights, Mitt Romney’s stood with Big Oil— for their tax breaks, attacking higher mileage standards and renewables.

So when you see this ad

Remember who paid for it. And what they want.

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Perfect ad! Right to the point!

  • 55 votes
#1 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

Mr. President, Mr. President...Any comment about "Solar Trust" Bankruptsy...you remember the one that recieved 2.1Billion in loan Guarantees from the Department of Energy just last year???

  • 26 votes
#1.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

Mr PheaNiques-0000001

are all govt guarantees only to be made to safe bets? Then we dont need the govt in the equation because any bank will lend the money. You are missing the ENTIRE point of the need for Govt Guarantees.

  • 48 votes
#1.2 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:11 PM EDT
Comment author avatarbob-1805084Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Perfect ad! Right to the point!

A lie is an intentional misrepresentation of a known fact in an effort to deceive.

To suggest that Obama is responsible for the production, "the 8 year high", is as close to a lie as it gets.

Obama has done nothing to support fossil production, while in fact doing everything possible, everything under his control, to reduce it.

FACT.

It is a fact that production on federal lands, the area Obama has control of, production is DOWN. Only the private sector on private lands has increased production, and this is inspite of Obama.

FACT.

Regarding the "subsidies" ... simple war on oil.

Oil companies pay the highest axes of any industry. The subsidies are simply items such as depreciation write-offs that every company in every industry in America enjoys.

Subsidies for wind are something like 600% of the relief offered to oil.

At least oil works and we can use it.

Regarding removing the tax breaks ... how does that lower gas prices?

  • 18 votes
#1.3 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

@Bob

Fact is a four letter word that doesn't have a meaning in a Dem dictionary

@ I need

seriously?? maybe we should just 15 trillion on the Lions making the Superbowl and get out of debt...

  • 12 votes
#1.4 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

LOL!

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:43 PM EDT

Mr Pheaniques

Facts are only facts if they agree that they really are facts, which are facts that are created by people they trust - regardless of what the facts really are.

  • 4 votes
#1.6 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:15 PM EDT

The facts are that oil people are returning to what was thought to be played out fields and finding that there is an abundance of oil their again in many of them. They have also improved satellite imaging to the point, that they now know the difference between a void in the earth and one that contains oil or gas. They are no approaching people in places that previously were thought to have no petroleum and finding.

Offshore drilling applications dropped to half of the submissions. Not only that but the approval rate dropped to about 25% of all applications submitted - down from a 74% approval rate. And to top that all off, instead of approvals taking the normal 3 months they now extend up to 4 months passed the promised 6 month maximum.

  • 5 votes
#1.7 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:22 PM EDT

DB, think someone is actually reading those applications before reaching for the rubber "OK" stamp like those doper idiots were doing while Bush was President?

  • 14 votes
#1.8 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:32 PM EDT

And, another bites the dust. . .

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/02/us-solartrust-bankruptcy-idUSBRE8310ZV20120402

Bet that never makes an Obama ad.

Bet this blog never covers it. Comes under the heading of "scandal du jour", I guess.

Unlike the Herman Cain stories. . .

  • 9 votes
#1.9 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:42 PM EDT

Bruce - Offshore problems dropped to an average of 1 per year under the Bush administration down from 5 per year from Clinton. In 2008 there were 2 incidents. Their were 3 in in 2009 and did not occur until after Obama had his team take over the off-shore regulation oversight.

  • 4 votes
#1.10 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:49 PM EDT

Where's the libbie outrage for Obama taking more BP Oil money than anyone on the planet?

If it wasn't for double standards the democrats would have no standards.

  • 9 votes
#1.11 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 8:05 PM EDT

Aaaannnndddd. . .

Here is the Obama connection:

Louis Susman, part owner of Solar1, was an Obama bundler!

I know- you are all just shocked!

Another $2.1 billion down the tubes in the Dollars to Donors program.

  • 11 votes
#1.12 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 8:09 PM EDT

No Joe wants to talk corruption but ignores the Bush Administration actions – here is just one:

In 2002 Halliburton was awarded a 7 billion dollar contract for which only Halliburton was allowed to bid. The very same company headed from 1995 to 2000 by Dick Cheney.

Add it up No Joe, how many BILLIONS has the Obama Administration passed out to his cronies?

BTW - Vice President Dick Cheney’s stock options in Halliburton rose from $241,498 in 2004 to over $8 million in 2005, an increase of more than 3,000 percent, as Halliburton continues to rake in billions of dollars from no-bid/no-audit government contracts.

POLITICO: George W. Bush made it cool to be a bundler, giving big-time donors nicknames like “Pioneers” and “Rangers” that carried a certain gravitas in political circles.

Texas oilmen, CEOs, lobbyists and others who could get their friends to kick in checks that added up to $100,000 or more were part of an elite club that came with special access, perks and bragging rights in Washington.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72852.html

  • 26 votes
#1.13 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 8:16 PM EDT

I am not sure that trying to pick on a candidate for his associations is a great move by Obama, especially when his closet if full of George Soros, Bill Ayers, and Jeremiah Wright. The only hard part of picking on Obama is which one of his associations or his failures do you feature. There probably isn't enough time to feature them all. But it is a target rich environment for sure. The fact is, Obama expends more energy trying to convince people of all that he has done, then his policies have actually produced.

  • 12 votes
#1.14 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 8:26 PM EDT

bob-1805084

Regarding the "subsidies" ... simple war on oil.

Oil companies pay the highest axes of any industry. The subsidies are simply items such as depreciation write-offs that every company in every industry in America enjoys

All of the major oil company executives testified before Congress that they did not need subsidies when oil sells for over $45 per barrel. Of course, being a Republican, lying is standard operating procedure for you. Just like Mitt "Etch a Sketch" Romney who is on video lying time after time after time.......the perfect Republican Candidate.

I'm sure you'll support him as you share the same level of integrity.

  • 9 votes
#1.15 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 9:20 PM EDT

So anyway this thread is about an Ad where Obama says he is raising milage standards.

How many of you bright folks here have any idea what that means?

Do you think that because the President says I want a 54.5 mpg Average CAFE standard by 2025 that it just happens?

This guy is clueless.

  • 9 votes
#1.16 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 9:21 PM EDT

WCA,

The program was developed in partnership with an alliance of automakers, the State of California, United Auto Workers (UAW), national environmental organizations and other stakeholders, and surprisingly, most automakers stood in agreement with the proposed new standards. That’s likely due to the proposed of 54.5 mpg figure being down on an original target of 62 mpg.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1064171_official-obama-announces-54-5-mpg-gas-mileage-standard-for-2025

  • 12 votes
#1.17 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 9:33 PM EDT

An Obama campaign official adds to First Read: "We saw it as an opportunity to highlight the president's energy record."

I am sitting on the edge of my seat waiting to see Mr. Obama's "Energy" ad. I bet anything that it will NOT INCLUDE the following failures:

  • Stimulus #1, 2, and #3
  • Omnibus
  • HAMP #1, #2. and #3
  • Cash for Clunkers
  • Cash for Appliances
  • Weatherization Program (part of Stimulus)
  • Black Farmer Fraud
  • Solar Panel Companies (Solyndra, Abound, Beacon, First Solar)
  • Electric Vehicle Companies ($100,000 each vehicle at Hisker and the Finnish automobile)
  • Ener1 Battery Company
  • Geothermal Plant in Nevada

The above initiatives were for (1) "Go Green" agenda items, (2) special interest group paybacks, or (3) political campaign contributor paybacks. For the most part, most of the taxpayer dollars spent on these Obama Initiatives were for (2) and (3).

  • 10 votes
#1.18 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 9:38 PM EDT

Dennis, you skipped this part:

While most vehicles will have to meet the 54.5 mpg standard by 2025, full-sized pickups and some SUVs would be exempt from the 2017 model year through the 2019 model year beyond which they will get their own standard. The reason is that the commercial consumers that purchase such vehicles require their strength, durability and towing capacity.

Just more waivers for his supporters and donors. The UAW.

And really? Stating that California, the UAW and environmental organizations are behind this is supposed to bolster your argument?

You. Have. Got. To. Be. Kidding.

Do you have any idea what you will have to sacrifice to get to 55 mpg avg CAFE? Comfortable and safe in a GOlf Cart, are you?

Thank God he won't be around then and smart people can fix his BS.

  • 12 votes
#1.19 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 9:43 PM EDT

WCA,

Yes, I have given up paying more of our US dollars to foreign countries that don't like us very much and making our country more secure.

It sounds like you are all for giving them our money and allowing us to less secure.

  • 8 votes
#1.20 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 9:50 PM EDT

Come now, WCA, have you completely missed the fact that, if Obama's CAFE standards are enacted, people will save , (by Obama's reckoning), $8000 if fuel costs remain where they are today?

Of course, that excludes the estimated $5000 extra cost of a new vehicle.

But, still, $3000!

Over the life of the car, which is estimated to be 26 years.

You keep your car for 26 years, right? Automakers WANT people to keep their cars 26 years, right?

Just make sure your tires are properly inflated, and you'll use negative gas. Have to pump it out at the filling station.

That nobody believes anything the idiot in the White House says leaves me flabbergasted.

That there are still members of his cult? Unreal.

  • 12 votes
#1.21 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 9:52 PM EDT

Dennis, Canada likes us a lot and we get most of our oil from them.

Hey No Joe, It is unreal isn't it? 26 years. That would mean I could be driving a sweet 1986 Chevette. Pretty sure they got good gas mileage.

Someday, some bright young President is going to realize that to make cars get better gas mileage they have to make them lighter and when they make them lighter they inherently make them more dangerous.

Saftey vs Economy has always been a balancing act for the Industry. But they don't need regulations to tell them that. The market tells them that. That is how we got the Mini-Van.

Somethings gonna give.

  • 8 votes
#1.22 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 10:04 PM EDT

Somethings got to give, okay.

Me- to Romney.

I'll be knocking on doors, too.

  • 3 votes
#1.23 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 10:43 PM EDT

Why is it?

The past president did some of the same that the current president does. Has some of the same supporters. Has some of the same republican members of the administration and still gets chastised by conservatives?

Funny how republican presidents get a pass on their supporters but a democrat is somehow evil for having the same thing.

Why is it?

Why is everything this president does an impeachable offense and yet the last president that took away human rights gets a free pass?

Why is it?

Why is everything the current president does an impeachable offense and yet, the president hasn't been impeached?

  • 13 votes
#1.24 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 10:52 PM EDT

@Ido: your post makes no sense; to start with: it's "Frisker" not "Hisker". If that's all you got, it's not enough.... enjoy Obama's 2nd term. Maybe he can redistribute some intelligence to you and your ilk.

  • 8 votes
#1.25 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 11:31 PM EDT

Ok, so everything stated in the ad is a fact. But, what they failed to say is because of those tax breaks you enjoy $1.5/gal at the pump! Romney & those GOP tax breaks are DIRECTLY responsible for your record low gas prices!

  • 6 votes
#1.26 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 12:33 AM EDT

@Roadkill: did you overhear the Easter Bunny whispering that one to Santa Claus? If you told us yes, it would at least make it more plausible.

  • 7 votes
#1.27 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 12:52 AM EDT

The more I read the post here of those that don't like the President for OBVIOUS reasons unstated, it just mind boggles me that they would allow the past president that started the down turn to have a pass. They would listen to the all and out lies that the "Americans for Prosperity" and "American Energy Alliance" as well as others can use fear tactics in their commericals and distort the truth greatly and not one conservative says a thing or calls it out. Why is that? Where are the TRUE conservatives that call a spade a spade and NOT when it suits them? Even though this ad does distort the truth a little it is mostly true and accurate compared to some of the other ads I've seen that say Obamacare will do away with care for seniors and eliminate Medicare and Medicaid.

Here's a challenge for ldo, no joe, Dennis, and others......

How about looking at the things the President has accomplished that has helped the country vice those that haven't help the country and you will see that he has done more with less support than any other President since Roosevelt.

  • 5 votes
#1.28 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 2:32 AM EDT

Roadkill

Ok, so everything stated in the ad is a fact. But, what they failed to say is because of those tax breaks you enjoy $1.5/gal at the pump! Romney & those GOP tax breaks are DIRECTLY responsible for your record low gas prices!

Please show us proof that your statement is true. Romney is now responsible for low gas prices???Wow. WOW!!!!

The high price of oil is a simple case of supply and demand.Demand for oil has increased worldwide as countries like China and, as well as other developing countries, are dramatically increasing their demand for oil.

The days of cheap gas are over. Get used to it. It has nothing to do how much or how little we drill in the US. Why? Because this private industry will always sell to those who are willing to pay the most. Other option would be socializing the industry but we all know that the Republicans would never even allowed it so again, get used to high gas prices.

  • 6 votes
#1.29 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 6:16 AM EDT

ldo,

Let's see how Bush compares:

Failed Bush tax cuts - if they did not fail Bush would have left us with a low unemployment and a great economy. The only thing it did was robbing of what was left in Social Security, and borrowing from other countries like China.

Bo Child Left Behind - four out of five schools in the United States will not make their "No Child Left Behind" benchmarks by the law's target year of 2014. Total failure.

"Mission Accomplished" which was not accomplished at all. As a matter of fact the wars continued through Bush's 1st term, 2nd term, and Obama's 1st term, and 2nd term (1war).

The Stimulus you mention, is it the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008? Bush sent out $152 billion in stimulus checks. He then followed up at the end of the year with a bait-and-switch bailout package costing $700 billion. Taxpayers get $152B, and the banks get $700B checks with no strings attached. What did banks do with the 700B? They used it to write themselves bonuses. How nice.

What did Obama spend his $700+B on? On tax relief, social security hikes, unemployment hikes, infrastructure, housing, healthcare, education, energy, automobiles, security and law enforcement.

I can keep going on, Ido. Your list of "failures" is a list of little failures. The sum of does not add up to much in comparison to his Republican predecessor.

  • 10 votes
#1.30 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 6:35 AM EDT

The Obama ad is to counter Big Oil's ad; nothing more, nothing less. The Koch Brothers are prepared to spend millions to replace President Obama with their puppet - WHY?

As can be seen in Romney's campaign, the more you spend, the better you can influence the voters. Obama is perfectly correct in countering the Koch propaganda. "Hear what you want to hear and disregard the rest." but after hearing both sides at least ask yourself - WHY?

  • 6 votes
#1.31 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 8:42 AM EDT

An Obama campaign official adds to First Read: "We saw it as an opportunity to highlight the president's energy record."

Which energy record? You mean the one where I paid $3.94 per gallon this morning? Does his idea of reducing our dependence on foreign oil involve making gas too expensive to buy? I dont entirely blame this administration on the rising fuel costs, but what is he doing to slow the rise of these prices?

  • 3 votes
#1.32 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 9:01 AM EDT

Govt_Issue

Which energy record? You mean the one where I paid $3.94 per gallon this morning?

apparently you are one of those who still believe that anyone has influence over the private industry. For the millionth time: blame the oil industry for the high gas prices. Unless you are for the government takeover of the oil industry, stop your complaining!

  • 4 votes
#1.33 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 10:18 AM EDT

Govt Issue: you and Roadkill better get your stories straight!

    #1.34 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 11:52 AM EDT

    About Solar Trust...

    Another $2.1 billion down the tubes in the Dollars to Donors program.

    Uh, no!

    Solar Trust said it was ditching CSP and going to photovoltaic (PV) panels at Blythe, in the process giving up the federal loan guarantee before it was even finalized. Solar Trust and Solar Mellennium said at the time that the plummeting price of PV had forced the move.

    See, there's more of those "facts" - that really aren't!

    • 2 votes
    #1.35 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

    node4....."@Ido: your post makes no sense; to start with: it's "Frisker" not "Hisker". If that's all you got, it's not enough.... enjoy Obama's 2nd term. Maybe he can redistribute some intelligence to you and your ilk."

    Spelling was inserted incorrectly to see what comments would prevail. Congratulations, you win the Lottery.

    Nah, I will not be on the same bandwagon as the following "know nothing" Democratic voters:

    Seems a lot of folks on the Democratic side need some "political" and "history" lessons.

    Yep, this Ex-Democrat will NOT BE VOTING for Mr. Obama's re-election.

    • 4 votes
    #1.36 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

    You guys know Mr.PheaNiques-0000001 is a troll right? I mean he has an ugly baby for an avatar.

      #1.37 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

      I'm sorry, that you guys missed the blatant sarcasm in my last post. It seemed pretty obvious. Silly me, underestimating stupidity. Gotta stop doing that. My point: The tax breaks, for oil companies, are doing NOTHING for the American people as the Republicans intended. (Maybe, the GOP KNEW there would be no lowering of gas prices, by giving big oil our money!)

      • 3 votes
      #1.38 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 2:39 PM EDT

      Lols for days!

      The President can't affect oil prices, just ask all the fake libs!

      The warships in the Gulf of Hormuz? Bushs fault!

      The sanctions against Iran? Bushs fault!

      Banning drilling on public lands? Bushs fault!

      Now..... Everybody can see how ridiculous that is, right?

      Because obviously, The President CAN and in fact HAS driven up the price you pay at the pump for gasoline. And everything transported using deisel or gasoline....vegetables, salt and pepper, bread, peanut butter, swiss cheese, pickles, shirts, socks, underwear, etc etc.

      Face it you fake liberals. Your warmongering president Obama is selling us out.

      • 3 votes
      #1.39 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 7:54 PM EDT

      no joe, no bo, nj,,,,,Lets see if we can make this simple enough for even you to understand. Life of a car has nothing to do with how long a person keeps a car, it is the average time a car exists before it is scrapped.

        #1.40 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 8:20 PM EDT

        MM-584706....."no joe, no bo, nj,,,,,Lets see if we can make this simple enough for even you to understand. Life of a car has nothing to do with how long a person keeps a car, it is the average time a car exists before it is scrapped ."

        Yep, and your vehicle will use less gas before it is scrapped if you inflate your tires properly. Now, that will "ween" the U.S. off foreign oil.

        Oh, that is Mr. Obama's new "Go Green energy agenda".....USE MORE AIR !!!!

          #1.41 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 8:44 PM EDT

          Oh yeah, the president's energy record sucks. What else is new?

            #1.42 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 9:19 PM EDT

            While most vehicles will have to meet the 54.5 mpg standard by 2025, full-sized pickups and some SUVs would be exempt from the 2017 model year through the 2019 model year beyond which they will get their own standard. The reason is that the commercial consumers that purchase such vehicles require their strength, durability and towing capacity.

            Just more waivers for his supporters and donors. The UAW.

            Do you really think that only UAW members are commercial consumers that purchase full size pickups and trucks? Um, not really, no, "commercial consumers" means businesses that need that kind of hauling capacity. The reason for the separate standard is that it is a bigger technical challenge to improve fuel economy in large trucks than in passenger cars.

            And really? Stating that California, the UAW and environmental organizations are behind this is supposed to bolster your argument? You. Have. Got. To. Be. Kidding.

            Why not? California has the biggest population of any state, and is the the 3rd largest state in land area, that gives it quite a bit of clout. The UAW represents those who actually makes cars, they really do want what's best for their business. Since we all live in "the environment", anything that improves the environment benefits everybody.

            Ah, but you're one of those who hates on the unions and "liberal" states and anyone trying to improve the environment. Fine, but do you also "hate on" our military, big corporations, and conservatives who sincerely want to reduce oil imports and cut revenue to OPEC nations that don't like us? The support for improved fuel economy is wider than you think.

            Do you have any idea what you will have to sacrifice to get to 55 mpg avg CAFE? Comfortable and safe in a GOlf Cart, are you?

            Nope. It will take plug-in hybrids and electrics, but they're hardly "golf carts. Take for example the Tesla Model S, which goes on sale this summer, it is roomy, seats 5 adults plus 2 kids, has luggage space front and back, 125 mph top speed (try that in a golf cart), up to 300 mile range (depending on battery option), superb handling, and a 0 to 60 mph of 5.6 seconds (better than most sports cars). The energy efficiency is the equivalent of 99 mpg, except, of course, it doesn't use any gasoline at all.

            Every major auto manufacturer plans to offer one or more plug-in car models within the next 3 years, all capable of exceeding 55 mpg, so there will be a considerable range of choices available. Also, since this is the average fuel economy, the sales of ultra-high efficiency plug-in cars means they can still make and sell some gas guzzlers for idiots foolish enough to want them.

            • 1 vote
            #1.43 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 9:41 PM EDT

            Bayllie and Gillboagirl,

            Evidently literacy is not among your strengths. I said I DONT entirely blame this administration, but was asking what he was doing about it. Try reading and comprehending before you make a comment.

              #1.44 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 7:39 AM EDT

              Ah! Way to go Obuma! Deflect your incompetence and the fools will believe you.

              "Fool me once and the shame is on you. Fool me twice and the shame is on me."

                #1.45 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 8:00 AM EDT

                Anony Mous1

                Seems you didn't learn either... We got Bush twice.

                  #1.46 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

                  MSNBC, if you don't have any facts don't post crap like "Americans for Prosperity -- with ties to the Koch Brothers." It is pure unsubstantiated propaganda. As to the price of gas, instead of inflating your tires, Obama should move to outlaw "drive-thus" except for the handicapped and people with young children. Now there we could save millions of barrels -- but Obama doesn't have the guts. He'll lose votes. BTW when do you think Obama last put air into his tires? I'll bet it's been a very long time and it's been done by a taxpayer paid employee who get $50.00 an hour. Now that's a good way to save!!!

                    #1.47 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:50 AM EDT

                    Gil-2872519

                    Funny, don't remember hearing any complaints when Bush took his years of vacation on your dime.

                    Here, I'll substantiate it for ya...

                    Cain's campaign manager and a number of aides have worked for Americans for Prosperity, or AFP, the advocacy group founded with support from billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch, which lobbies for lower taxes and less government regulation and spending.

                    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/long-ties-to-koch-brothers-key-to-cains-campaign/2011/10/16/gIQAKTLPoL_story.html

                    AFP was founded in 2004 when Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE) split into FreedomWorks (formerly Citizens for a Sound Economy) and the Americans for Prosperity Foundation (formerly the Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation). Dick Armey, who had become chair of CSE in 2003 after retiring from Congress,[5], remained chairman of FreedomWorks, while David H. Koch remained chairman of the AFP Foundation. Like CSE, AFP was founded with the support of David H. Koch and Charles G. Koch, both of Koch Industries.[6][7][8]

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_for_Prosperity

                    Google... so others don't have to.

                      #1.48 - Thu Apr 5, 2012 3:26 AM EDT

                      In his speech to 8500 at UC Berkeley tonight, Ron Paul said he would save medicare by bringing the troops home. WIN - WIN!!!!

                      If you can't get behind that, your "liberalism" is totally FAKE.

                        #1.49 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 3:56 AM EDT

                        In his speech to 8500 at UC Berkeley tonight, Ron Paul said he would save medicare by bringing the troops home. WIN - WIN!!!!

                        If you can't get behind that, your "liberalism" is totally FAKE.

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDAo-V9GBrc&feature=share

                        Listen to The Man!!!!

                          #1.50 - Fri Apr 6, 2012 4:10 AM EDT
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                          It will be interesting to count how many times during the upcoming General Election the Romney campaign responds to Obama's ads with, "Yeah, but . . ."

                          As anyone who has ever been involved in a debate knows, when the other guy says, "Yeah, but . . ." the other guy just lost.

                          Romney has given the Obama campaign people so many opportunities to force Mitt into a "Yeah, but. . ." response, they are probably going nuts trying to decide which ones to use.

                          • 19 votes
                          Reply#2 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

                          You mean like Dennis did to NoJo right above you?

                          Yeah, I guess I agree with you.

                          Dennis Lost.

                          • 4 votes
                          #2.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 9:17 PM EDT
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                          Exactly!!! Nothing more needs to be said about Mr. Romney.

                          • 15 votes
                          Reply#3 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:10 PM EDT
                          Comment author avatarruss-2423574Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                          like the pic shows, lyin king! baracalypse. worst president EVVVVEEERRRR!

                          • 10 votes
                          Reply#4 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

                          Let's see the right-wing spin this... They have been behind the downfall of America, whether it is weakening the middle class and giving more power and wealth to the 1%, or refusing compromise even when the ball is in their favor, or even forsaking all economic priorities for a political goal of unseating an incumbent President. It will be a great day in America when the GOP sinks. One less group of idiots and troublemakers to deal with as we try to lead our nation to a better future.

                          OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                          • 26 votes
                          #5 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

                          Obama has been the most divisive president ever. It was Obama and a democratic congress that gave us a loss in S&P ratings. It was democrats in the senate that will not have passed a budget for FOUR YEARS. It was democrats that passed a terrible health care law by a procedural move rather than a true vote (seeking no input across the isle). Obama has added $1.5 Trillion to the deficit every year of his term (outspending Bush by 3 times), and has NO PLANS to actually fix the national debt. I have no love for republicans (especially the weak president Bush that was), but it is clear that it is the democrats that are destroying our country and the middle class.

                          • 6 votes
                          #5.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:34 PM EDT

                          Nah, that was the Republicans.

                          • 20 votes
                          #5.2 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:50 PM EDT

                          It was Obama and a democratic congress that gave us a loss in S&P ratings.

                          Wrong. It was the teaparty/republicans who caused the downgrade by S&P. They refused to raise the debt ceiling, going to the brink and when the downgrade did happen they actually cheered it.

                          http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2011/08/05/sp-downgrades-u-s-debt-rating-press-release/

                          • 12 votes
                          #5.3 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 9:47 PM EDT

                          It was the teaparty/republicans who caused the downgrade by S&P

                          That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Your article doesn't even mention the tea party. Aside from them being idiots for not wanting to raise taxes, refusing to raise the debt ceiling doesn't cause a downgrade from the S&P. Obama gets the blame.

                          • 6 votes
                          #5.4 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 11:21 PM EDT

                          RationalOne - No, the dumbest thing was your first submission at #5.1. Not one tidbit of truth or facts in any of it.

                          • 6 votes
                          #5.5 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 11:43 PM EDT

                          This was a Republican Tea Party downgrade.

                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_government_credit-rating_downgrade,_2011

                          I also heard on the grapevine that they know better now, so traditional Republicans won't let the Tea Party freshmen pull that stunt, again. ...and it's also indicative of the rift that's gotten wider between old-school Republicans, and the Tea Party / Libertarian-Anarchist favorites in power, in all of the Red States in the Union.

                          • 4 votes
                          #5.6 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 1:37 AM EDT

                          That's a lie. If you bothered to watch the financial channels instead of the propaganda networks, you could have heard the S&P representative himself lay the blame on Obama's outrageous deficits with no end in sight and no plan to address them.

                          Wikipedia does not refute that, in fact it makes the point. According to the GAO, only Ryans plan and Simpson/Bowles would have addressed the problem. Democrats and Obama refused to support either one. Obama's budget was so pathetic it was voted down in the senate 97-0, not even one democrat voted for it, and of course the democrats refuse to do a budget and have refused for over three years now.

                          Sorry but facts trump liberal propaganda every time.

                          • 5 votes
                          #5.7 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 2:40 AM EDT

                          For those that say the president is responsible for the downgrade let's take some words from the actual report: (yes I know it's a blog but the words in the report are accurate)

                          The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as America’s governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed. The statutory debt ceiling and the threat of default have become political bargaining chips in the debate over fiscal policy.

                          And:

                          Compared with previous projections, our revised base case scenario now assumes that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, due to expire by the end of 2012, remain in place. We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the act.

                          it also states:

                          Republicans and Democrats have only been able to agree to relatively modest savings on discretionary spending while delegating to the Select Committee decisions on more comprehensive measures.

                          But here’s S&P’s essential point:

                          In our view, the difficulty in framing a consensus on fiscal policy weakens the government’s ability to manage public finances and diverts attention from the debate over how to achieve more balanced and dynamic economic growth in an era of fiscal stringency and private-sector deleveraging…

                          Other points to consider. Obama and Behoner had a deal to raised the debt ceiling AND cut down on the deficit by raising revenue as well as cutting spending BUT the tea party republicans flatly rejected it causing the Speaker to back track and "deny" that an agreement was reached between him and the president. The deal that was agreed upon was thrown together at the last possible minute that didn't really address anything. So before all you "self appointed" conservatives start bad mouthing the "liberals" I would advise you to stop calling the kettle black.

                          • 6 votes
                          #5.8 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 4:06 AM EDT

                          You libs just prove how bad a president is when he creates an environment where nothing can get done. It is the PRESIDENTS job to LEAD. Yet all he could do was criticize the other side. He didn't have a plan of his own, walked away from his own Simpson-Bowles plan, and has increased the deficit $1.5 Trillion per year since his first day in office. http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

                          Obama doesn't care about the debt and leaving the burden to our children. In fact "liberals" say deficit spending is a good thing. As proof they tout Obamacare, even though it's been proven that it will increase the deficit by an additional $1.6 Trillion by year 2025 (note the CBO numbers only carry costs to 2021).

                          There are no plans, none. Obama's budget (which was voted down 414-0) didn't address the deficit, and all he can do is criticize the plan that does. That's not leadership, it's failure to lead. Obama is a failure as a president, democrats are a failure as a party, and liberals are a failure to society.

                          • 4 votes
                          #5.9 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 8:48 AM EDT

                          Everytime I hear a conservative squawk about the trillions in deficets I respond with:

                          • What happened to the 2.3 Trillion missing that Rumsfeld and Che=ney says werew missing from the DOD on 9/10?
                          • What happened to the 16 plus Trillion from the Fed which was found during the first ever Audit spearheaded by (thankyou) Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul.

                          I'll tell you my Theory....2.3 trillion was stolen by subs in Iraq.

                          The 16 Trillion was loaned to IMF's World bank to build infrastructure over the course of GWB tenure to be the infrastructure so American caompanies could relocate....and take jobs with them.

                          Tell me how sdid that help America's Prosperity of Future?

                          Bottom Line - It Did Not.

                            #5.10 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 9:22 AM EDT

                            RationalOne - hard to do that when the GOP announces they will do whatever it takes (to hell with the country) to keep him a one term President. You clearly have no clue.

                            • 1 vote
                            #5.11 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

                            RationalOne-674831

                            You libs just prove how bad a president is when he creates an environment where nothing can get done. It is the PRESIDENTS job to LEAD. Yet all he could do was criticize the other side. He didn't have a plan of his own, walked away from his own Simpson-Bowles plan, and has increased the deficit $1.5 Trillion per year since his first day in office. http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

                            Obama doesn't care about the debt and leaving the burden to our children. In fact "liberals" say deficit spending is a good thing. As proof they tout Obamacare, even though it's been proven that it will increase the deficit by an additional $1.6 Trillion by year 2025 (note the CBO numbers only carry costs to 2021).

                            There are no plans, none. Obama's budget (which was voted down 414-0) didn't address the deficit, and all he can do is criticize the plan that does. That's not leadership, it's failure to lead. Obama is a failure as a president, democrats are a failure as a party, and liberals are a failure to society.

                            Unfortunately, Oh Rational One (whose name is an oxymoron), Obama has NOT been the most divisive president, nor has he increased the debt by $1.5 trillion a year.

                            For the divisive issue, it is fair to admit that both sides have been divisive, exploiting national issues for political profit (as they do in every democratic country). But the GOP has been the most divisive so far. Take their non-compromising position on deficit reduction, for example. Boehner and Obama had a credible plan to the cut the deficit by $4 trillion over 10 years, which would have placated the credit agencies and significantly reduced future deficits. However, Boehner walked away from the deal when the Tea Party caucus refused it, primarily because it contained tax increases, however minor compared to the cuts. Boehner. not wishing to upset the caucus that is a major voting bloc in the house, declined the offer, throwing the nation's fiscal house into chaos. Congress fashioned a $2.2 trillion deficit reduction plan in time to raise the debt ceiling, but S&P was unconvinced and downgraded us because neither political party could effectively come to the table, even though the Democrats were far more negotiable and reasonable than their counterparts across the aisle. This is one of many times in which the GOP, dominated by the irrational Tea Party, has put ideology above reason and country. Not to mention that so many signed Grover Norquist's pledge. In addition, the GOP has claimed that Obama of class warfare against the rich, all for asking that they pay at least as much as a middle-class American. And yet they ignore the past 30 years of class genocide against the middle class and the poor caused by supply-side economics and the ridiculous plans offered by the GOP which cut deeply into programs that benefit the poor and the middle-class while giving tax breaks to the top 1%.

                            As for the financial matter, deficits have only been up to $1.4 trillion. And technically Obama has not increased spending; Bush did. Bush sent in the budget for 2009, which had a $1.4 trillion deficit. Obama has actually decreased deficits by approximately $200-300 billion. And most of the deficits have been caused by things out of Obama's control. The recession was caused by deregulation and the collapse of the financial markets, driving up spending and hollowing out revenues. In addition, the Bush tax cuts add anywhere from $250 to $380 billion in annual deficits; Obama wanted to take out $80 billion in tax breaks for the wealthy, but the GOP blackmailed him with the expiration of unemployment benefits in 2010. Obama has not added trillions to our debt; the recession and the Bush tax cuts did. Apparently you need to take a class in economics, as does the right-wing itself. The GOP candidates are a failure as a realistic choice, the Republicans are a failure as a party, and conservatives and right-wingers are a failure to society. If only you realized that. Seek the truth, my friend, for the truth shall set you free.

                            OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                            • 1 vote
                            #5.12 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

                            Freshie - Either don't use words that you don't understand or use a dictionary. The name Rational One isn't an oxymoron. You may not agree with him, but your apparent lack of knowledge takes away from your credibility.

                              #5.13 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

                              I know what an oxymoron is. If I misused it it was my own mistake.

                              • 1 vote
                              #5.14 - Wed Apr 4, 2012 6:41 PM EDT
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                              Perfect ad to counter the flood of attack ads we are seeing here in Ohio.

                              • 14 votes
                              Reply#6 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:29 PM EDT
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                              NOW that i saw the ad, he is a liar. he cut federal permits and only increase is on private land from bush permits

                              mitt favors oil co breaks because the profits go to (gasp) middle class investors as dividends (so obama wants to tax YOU, DOY)

                              what has baraca;ypse done to increase mileage? give gm taxpayer money? yup!

                              what has he done for renewable energy? give money to his friends that elected him, like solyndra.

                              He is gonna get his ass handed to him at debate time. what an idiot baracalypse is.

                              • 9 votes
                              Reply#7 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

                              Solyndra failed because China gave the equivalent of over 30 million U.S. dollars to companies producing solar panels in China and flooded the market in the United States with cheaper, over seas produced solar panels. It had nothing to do with this President AND it was Bush that gave the original go ahead to the Solyndra Corp. to receive Federal funding. Please find out the facts before making statements like that. Did you know that the last quarter of 2011 was the first time since 1949 that the United States exported oil? FACT. In a letter to the editor of The Cleveland Plain Dealer someone wrote that the Obama administration only issued 374 oil permits last year, he wasn't even close to telling the truth. The fact is that oil production has gone UP 374% since he took office and has issued 1140 permits to drill oil on land and off shore. That is a matter of public record if you know how to look it up.

                              • 7 votes
                              #7.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

                              How about saving the federal lands for the benefit of future generations? Ever hear the saying "you can't have your cake and eat it too"?? No you haven't . Just plunder and spoil the land and waters and wildlife until there is nothing left. Yeah, that's the ticket!

                              • 3 votes
                              #7.2 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:55 PM EDT

                              Did you know that the last quarter of 2011 was the first time since 1949 that the United States exported oil?

                              This is an outright lie. We have always "exported" oil as it's sold on the global market and our oil goes to the highest bidder (no matter what country that is). The problem is we import more oil than we export, which is one of the reasons the US has a trade deficit.

                              How about saving the federal lands for the benefit of future generations?

                              And just what "future" generation will actually get to use the land if it keeps getting saved for the future? Instead, how about actually using the land safely now so we can actually give our future generation a future.

                              • 4 votes
                              #7.3 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:12 PM EDT

                              Russ, gee I'm glad to hear you are so concerned with the middle class investor and that is the reason you think taxpayer money should continue to go to the oil companies.

                              Two things to think about before you spout this nonsense somewhere someone might challenge you with more than words: (1) Based on the number of shares traded daily, human beings (middle class and otherwise) account for less than 5% of all stock transactions with computers taking care of the other 95%. (2) Exxon/Mobil reported net, after tax earnings during the fourth quarter of 2011 of $33 million - Per Day!

                              • 4 votes
                              #7.4 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:25 PM EDT

                              China was already producing them at a lower rate without any additional chinese support. Solyndra would have failed anyhow, and that is why the Bush adminstration pulled the plug on solyndra 2 weeks before Obama took over.

                              • 6 votes
                              #7.5 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:25 PM EDT

                              not true. 60 percent of transactions are done by algorithms. the other 40 percent are done manually. the stocks traded ARE OWNED BY SOMEONE, and with profits come dividends. While youre at it, how much cash is google, apple and buffet HOARDING, without paying any taxes at all?

                              When the govt doesnt get its filthy, wasteful hands on OUR money, it gets spent by people, buying cars, boats, planes, stocks, and yes, paying to get baracalypse out of office. this all creates jobs.

                              • 5 votes
                              #7.6 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:51 PM EDT

                              Russ, stop drinking the kool-aid, friend. Really. When 1% of the population owns 50% of the wealth, you really can't be talking about oil company dividends going 'to middle class investors'.

                                #7.7 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 12:49 AM EDT

                                "It had nothing to do with this President AND it was Bush that gave the original go ahead to the Solyndra Corp. to receive Federal funding"

                                That's a pathetic lie, Bush nixed the loan but Obama resurrected it despite the GAO telling him to the month when they would go bankrupt. Two weeks before they folded he had the loan reformatted so the taxpayer would be on the hook instead of his campaign donors. Tell me how that isn't money laundering!

                                China turned solar into a commodity and Solyndra was stupid enough to try to compete.,all to placate Obama's stupid Utopian dream of "building solar panels". He needs to STFU about building them and start talking about using them.

                                It was Bush, by the way, who removed the $3000 limit on renewable energy tax credits, spent more on alternative energy research than any predecessor, and put 10KW of solar on the white house.

                                http://www.sma.de/en/products/references/solar-inverters/isolator/the-white-house.html

                                All those BEV's, including the Volt were started on Bush's watch as well.

                                At least Bush was honest when he said he wanted to pursue all energy resources, Obama is a proven liar in that regard.

                                • 3 votes
                                #7.8 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 2:53 AM EDT
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                                An Obama campaign official adds to First Read: "We saw it as an opportunity to highlight the president's energy record." I almost lost it when I read that! If they really wanted to make an ad that "highlighted" this dimwit's energy record, that ad would last about 6 seconds as he HAS NO RECORD ON ANYTHING! Energy most of all. What a joke.

                                And Freshieee - I like your demo talking points keep them up...but it is the 2nd of the month, time to go get yo welfare check, cigs and lottery tickets...

                                • 6 votes
                                Reply#8 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

                                like ive always said, baracalypse sure needs the medias help, because those little false infomercials are so stupid, only an idiot could believe it. live debates without his teleprompter is gonna be a laughathon for EVERYONE!

                                • 4 votes
                                #8.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:39 PM EDT

                                The ONLY time Mitt doesn’t sound like Joe Biden on steroids is when he uses a teleprompter.

                                And you call Joe a gaff machine.

                                • 9 votes
                                #8.2 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:12 PM EDT

                                juiceisgood - amazing that you know the dates for that. None of my Democratic or Independent friends do but then, we're not getting welfare checks. And, most of my friends have more sense than to smoke. You really are pathetic!

                                russ - another stupid one for you. All past President of modern times have used teleprompters! You really are uninformed!

                                • 4 votes
                                #8.3 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:22 PM EDT

                                Mitt finishes second to the VP in quality of gaffe's. Most of the VP's gaffes never see the light of day, unless conservatives catch and post them. I heard a conservative play a Carter Gaffe - style is a dead ringer for many of the ones' the VP does.

                                • 4 votes
                                #8.4 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

                                We have had solar technology since the early 1900's, but oil and coal production companies don't want other forms of energy. Henry Ford did not want the automobile to run on oil. The fuel efficiency standards had not gone up until Obama came into office, and they weren't going to.

                                Anyways, who would want to go two weeks on a tank of gas anyways? Anyone who doesn't remember how high gas prices were under W. is crazy, because I saw prices jump pretty darn high, but guess what boys and girls it is a global issue. If you look at the statistics the United States oil prices followed the trend in Europe, just our prices are actually significantly cheaper, partially because we don't tax oil companies as much as other countries. Our politicians have used the american people for decades, getting rich off of stock options, and payoffs.

                                Obama comes in and wants to level the playing field, because you have to admit that the other energy options could work if they received the same benefits that oil companies have for decades. They have perfected drilling....lol, except for every time they screw up the environment without any way to really fix the damage they have created.

                                If oil companies and coal companies were smart, they would send some of their workforce to school for these other technologies and produce all forms of energy.

                                By the way, a new engine has been developed and is soon to be put in a full size car, it will be much smaller and lighter than a normal engine....hopefully the oil companies don't get their paws on this, or they will just file it away somewhere, where other more efficient engine designs have been placed.

                                One day people will stop being so selfish, just thinking about themselves, maybe one day people will actually say, you know, that Barack Obama was a great president! because in his second term, when the republicans have been voted out of office by all of the men, and women of the different racial, religious, and sexual backgrounds, that the far right republicans have alienated, he is going to kick some butt!

                                Obama/Biden 2012

                                • 3 votes
                                #8.5 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 2:46 AM EDT

                                Juiceisgood

                                And Freshieee - I like your demo talking points keep them up...but it is the 2nd of the month, time to go get yo welfare check, cigs and lottery tickets...

                                HA HA HA HA. Very funny, juice. Problem is, I ain't a welfare king, nor do I buy lottery tickets. In fact, I can't even work. I am not old enough to work. Nor would I take welfare unless I needed it.

                                And before somebody calls me a dumb kid who doesn't know what he's talking about, I delve deeply into the world of politics. Check any of my previous posts. I'll debate anyone on this vine, even if they're four times my age. Not to be arrogant or rash, but I think you'll be surprised with the knowledge I posses.

                                OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                                • 1 vote
                                #8.6 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 8:44 PM EDT
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                                Russ: please learn to spell and punctuate. And your namecalling, plus words like "idiot" and "stupid," do nothing whatever to advance whatever cause you are espousing, not to mention what all of this says about your IQ and possibly your humanity.

                                You need to read more, sir.

                                • 8 votes
                                Reply#9 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:54 PM EDT

                                YEAH william, go back to lib school and learn some new unused tricks to divert from the message. its so lib. always with the "learn how to spell, blahh blah blah" moron. get some new content and ideas, and stop drinkin the damn kool aid!

                                • 3 votes
                                #9.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

                                Maybe russ, if people like you knew how to spell, maybe you would know how to read. You need to learn about the facts. You should look up the origins of fox news sometime. Their original saying before they were officially fox news was "Fair and Balanced to the right." It was a partial brain child of Richard Nixon. I used to watch the show for years, especially the O'Reilly program. I got sick and tired of every time a Democrat came on the show, how O'Reilly would cut him off and tell him that he was lying. I would do the research and sure enough, the democrat would be telling the truth. They made the republican hosts into super heros, and the democrats on their shows into weak villains, who never got a chance to get their point across.

                                Programs on MSNBC let all get their opinions across. Michael Steele for example is one of my favorite speakers.

                                • 3 votes
                                #9.2 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 2:53 AM EDT
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                                Why, exactly do oil companies need special tax breaks and who keeps voting to keep those subsidies in place? Answer:

                                – The senators who voted for Big Oil’s handouts received on average over four times as much career oil cash as those who voted to end them.

                                – Overall, Senate Republicans have taken $23.2 million in oil and gas contributions. Democrats received $6.66 million.

                                Oil's biggest beneficiaries (surprise, surprise!):

                                Senate Republic Leader Mitch KcConnel (R-Ky.) — $1,154,011 in his career including $759, 450 since 2006.

                                John Cornyn (R-Texas) — 1,877,550 in his career including $1,197,275 since 2006.

                                John McCain (R-Ariz.) — $2,870,491 in his career including a whopping $2,622,764 since 2006.

                                This election cycle Republicans have taken 88 percent of the over $20 million in federal campaign contributions from oil and gas companies as the industry has spent over $146,000,000 on lobbying last year, according to Think Progress.

                                • 10 votes
                                Reply#10 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:54 PM EDT

                                Why, exactly do oil companies need special tax breaks and who keeps voting to keep those subsidies in place?

                                Correct answer. They do not have any other breaks than any other corporation. The Traditional actual special tax breaks that such as oil depletion, were eliminated for the big corporations 30 years ago. The reason the elimination of these fail in congress via the hands of both Democrats and Republicans is because most of that benefit goes to smaller drillers and land-owners. Without those breaks many of these companies would not exist and many landowners would not open their land to exploration companies.

                                Being right now the rapid development of our domestic production on land is keeping the price of oil from being $140 per barrel.

                                Also - the all oil is sold on the open market is not accurate. The oil and gas deregulation under Reagan price controls were dropped from how much domestic oil could be bought for. My dad had a stripper well at the time. While the OPEC would get $42 per barrel, in the US well producers would get only $15 per barrel. Deregulation meant that all oil was paid at the market rate. Companies still bought the oil directly form American producers and made up the shortages by buying on the open market.

                                The trans canada pipeline will mean that we will be an export point for them when they pipeline exceeds our needs. That oil is what will be sold on the open market.

                                • 2 votes
                                #10.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

                                Why, exactly do oil companies need special tax breaks and who keeps voting to keep those subsidies in place?

                                Correct answer, according to the CEO's of the oil companies, while testifying in front of congress... 'We do not need these subsidies and haven't since oil was less than $40/barrell'

                                • 1 vote
                                #10.2 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 11:11 PM EDT
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                                By October we'll all be afraid to turn on the TV with all the attack and counter-attack ads. Citizens United.

                                • 2 votes
                                Reply#11 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

                                Citizens United my ass. If only the Supreme Court had thought that way....

                                • 1 vote
                                #11.1 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 8:47 PM EDT
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                                Oh no, he di'n't! Smacking those oil vultures right in the gob!

                                For years, the public was told higher mileage was unattainable, once it got passed, all of a sudden, those cars started appearing. Remember a car that gets 80 miles per gallon is the same as $2 gallon of gas.

                                • 5 votes
                                Reply#12 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:57 PM EDT

                                It seems the right wing keeps promising it will be able to return the nation to some kind of utopia that existed in the past. Unfortunately, that is a place that does not exist. The health of the planet is declining at an ever increasing rate. If we don't adopt new ways and methods and start caring for the planet, there won't be anything left to argue about or fight over. Let go of the past. It is dead and gone!

                                • 6 votes
                                Reply#13 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:21 PM EDT

                                WHY WAS THIS POST COLLAPSED!!??? CENSORSHIP?

                                NOW that i saw the ad, he is a liar. he cut federal permits and only increase is on private land from bush permits

                                mitt favors oil co breaks because the profits go to (gasp) middle class investors as dividends (so obama wants to tax YOU, DOY)

                                what has baraca;ypse done to increase mileage? give gm taxpayer money? yup!

                                what has he done for renewable energy? give money to his friends that elected him, like solyndra.

                                He is gonna get his ass handed to him at debate time. what an idiot baracalypse is.

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#14 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

                                It was collapsed because it lacks cogent, thoughtful reasoning. Just like this post does.

                                • 5 votes
                                #14.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:51 PM EDT

                                na, i dont think so. all this happened, and baracalypse will have to answer for it, and a whole lot more. i couldnt have made it more direct and to the point, even towards the libs. dont you have other articles to go write?

                                co·gent

                                   /ˈkoÊŠdÊ’É™nt/ Show Spelled[koh-juhnt] Show IPA

                                adjective
                                1.
                                convincing or believable by virtue of forcible, clear, or incisive presentation; telling.

                                2.
                                to the point; relevant; pertinent.

                                • 2 votes
                                #14.2 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 8:00 PM EDT

                                Romney has no grounds to speak on in a debate. Even for his Romney Care, guess how he got everyone in the state on it....with Federal money. Guess how he saved the Olympics....with Federal money.

                                Guess how he made his money....besides all of it he already had....he made it off of taking over businesses with a down payment, using them as collateral, and in most cases destroyed the business. Guess how he got to be CEO of bane capital....he already had the finances, and big boy pants, he never had to work his way up. On his missionary stay in Europe, he only had to stay a few days in home of the common folk before he was being waited on by maids.

                                This man walks like an aristocrat for goodness sake, like Queen Elizabeth's husband. I don't want someone who has never worked or lived around average people to be our president. President Obama knows the needs of communities. Democrats will not make the same mistake we made in 2010, we will come out and vote for President Obama in November...and Hillary in 2016!

                                • 1 vote
                                #14.3 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:05 AM EDT
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                                the john bircher koch brothers should be in prison for bribing congresspersons. the goal of the koch brothers is the complete destruction of the middleclass.

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#15 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:41 PM EDT

                                really? how many middle class jobs does koch provide? a few hundred thousand? why dont you tell me?

                                • 2 votes
                                #15.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:45 PM EDT

                                67 thousand people. i guess thats alot of middle class folks huh?

                                • 1 vote
                                #15.2 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:58 PM EDT

                                You have seen the figures on how many people they laid off over the last 12 years or so, when their profits continued to soar higher and higher, haven't you? Russ, give it a rest, most of us on here are democrats who have already made up our minds. You are not going to sway us to the "Dark Side."

                                We have seen the obstruction that Obama has been met with. Yes, the Democrats had to years of control....not really, you forget that the Democrats did not have a filibuster proof majority for those two years, so instead of giving a chance like we gave W. they decided to be obstructionists from the beginning. It was only at the end of W's term that Democrats did it to him, because it was obvious that after 8 years in office, he didn't know what he was doing. Obama had to come in and fix the mess, especially with the way Bush handled Afghanistan and Iraq. Firstly, we borrowed the money....from China (under Bush) instead of paying for it ourselves, because guess what....Bush gave the rich a tax cut, so we couldn't afford to go to war. Bush went in without a long term strategy. The military higher ups liked when Obama came into office, because he actually listed to them and got the right strategies going.

                                I could go on and on like this forever, just as you could twist stats and figures to suit your needs russ. I'm telling you that the majority of american's can see the truth and can think for themselves, they know that Obama is best for the office of the presidency for the next 4 years. Drive around with your hate filled bumper stickers all you want russ, we are not drinking the Republican Kool-Aid. The really sad thing is that those Republicans who are spewing lies and hate speech aren't even doing it convincingly any more, you have become lazy.

                                To those Republicans out their who haven't lost their minds....thank you, and vote Obama....keep it on the down low though. You can say you voted for Romney, like you said you voted for McCain in'08.

                                • 5 votes
                                #15.3 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:21 AM EDT

                                @miscrient...

                                Using your logic, companies should never try to reorganize to stay afloat. They should keep their unnecessary (and almost always lowest-producing) employees around for your idea of the "correct" "moral" thing to do for the "greater good" and go dancing into bankruptcy holding hands and singing Kumbaya.

                                If it was up to you, we'd have Government-Subsidized Horse and Buggies. How dare society evolve beyond them and put them out of business!

                                  #15.4 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 2:48 PM EDT
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                                  what is the obama plan for energy? $5.00 plus gas while he pays off his campaign bundlers in make believe green energy schemes. Obama only has one plan "get me re-elected."

                                  • 3 votes
                                  Reply#16 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:50 PM EDT

                                  Obama, why not just STFU.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  Reply#17 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:51 PM EDT

                                  Jaysus: did Fox "news" let the inmates out of the locked ward?

                                  • 9 votes
                                  #17.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:53 PM EDT

                                  fox. number one in ratings. and hannity tonight will show how lamestream purposely fueled racial tensions by purposefully omitting portions of a 911 call. wouldnt you like to kill the messenger, hmmm?

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #17.2 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 8:04 PM EDT

                                  Good answer, russ; Fox "news" did let the inmates out of the asylum!

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #17.3 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 8:01 AM EDT
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                                  PERFECT AD ; BUT PLENTY MORE TO COME ; just skimming the surface at this present time. get ready for a repeat of the fighting candidates , '' in their own words about each other ''. EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY ARE HIPOCRITS , '' BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY THE 1%ers !!!!!!!!!!!

                                  • 2 votes
                                  Reply#18 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:56 PM EDT

                                  Here's a truly scary thought to contemplate: Mitt Romney is actually MORE LIBERAL than Barack Obama!!! So, who ya gonna call now, Republicans?

                                  • 3 votes
                                  Reply#19 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:57 PM EDT

                                  Romney for president? that's scary, people like that, running for president should be arrested. Why is Ron Paul being ignored he is better than Romney. Barack Obama Will win the election If republicans don't find someone better than Romney. I used to be Republican but the way they run things is just idiotic, greed and don't care about human rights. I am proud to announce I am not a republican no more and will vote for democrats all the way.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  Reply#20 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 8:12 PM EDT

                                  Can one of you right wingers explain to me how oil production can be the highest in 8 years, yet the price at the pump is still so high. No help from the libbies, these answers from the right should be fun. Even if you do not want to give Obama credit, if supply goes up, oil imports are down, shouldn't price go down?

                                  • 3 votes
                                  Reply#21 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 8:24 PM EDT

                                  You can not convince the misinformed that he is foolish!!! Living in a free society is really tough for a liberal.

                                  Federal lands is where the minerals are and the government has been stealing this land for years out west and calling the theft parks.

                                  Private property is where oil is being pumped inspite of Salazar and Obama. Obama is a bum and a liar.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #21.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 9:06 PM EDT

                                  lol, were all going to laugh at you.

                                    #21.2 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:24 AM EDT
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                                    Let us break down the ad, the tax breaks Obama wants to end are $24 billion over 10 years or $2.4 billion per year. What will be result of these "breaks" ending? We will be charged about $.05 more per gallon at the pump to help the oil companies pay these taxes. Ending these breaks does nothing to help us pay less at the pump and nothing to encourage oil production.

                                    The mileage standards may be nice; but, they do nothing to help us immeadiately. Tey add $2400 to the cost of vehicles and do not help the poor who will be buying 6 to 10 years old used cars that do not get great mileage. The people who are hurt the most at the pump will not be help.

                                    Regarding the 15% increase in production. We have 1.4 trillion barrels of technologically recoverable oil in the U.S. We produce approximately 10 million per day and use 20 million per day. The 15% percent over the last 3 years is 1.5 million new barrels. We need to get to 20 million which is 8.5 million more in daily production. To reacha goal of totally producing our domestic supply in 10 years, we need to double the increase in production.

                                    The world usage of oil is 91 million barrels per day, to lower prices through production we need to increase production enough to be exporting oil and force other producers to lower their prices. Based on the Obama administration's oil production policies this will not happen.

                                    Obama's policies can be easily be shown to be flawed. We need to be careful what we accept as the truth.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    Reply#22 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

                                    So, Bruce according to you the extra revenue that will allow us to borrow less in not important to you and should not be to the American tax payers.

                                    What a great selling point !!

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #22.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 8:43 PM EDT

                                    I have a six year old Prius to sell. I get 48 MPG's.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #22.2 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 11:06 PM EDT

                                    I have a six year old Prius to sell. I get 48 MPG's.

                                    I have a 5 year old F150 that gets 22 mpg, I can put your Prius in the bed and still get 22 mpg. Can you put anything in the back of your Prius...Didn't think so...I'll just keep my F150.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #22.3 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 8:30 AM EDT
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                                    Obama didn't fool me the first time ....

                                    I hope all of you can see through this campaign only , false ad ....

                                    • 2 votes
                                    Reply#23 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 8:29 PM EDT

                                    To Russ-2324574 et al -- if you don't like facts, you don't have to visit this site, you can watch FOX news and enjoy the cartoons.

                                    Let's go over the facts again -- since 1948, Democratic administrations WAX Republican administrations in GDP growth and job creation and are statistically better in DJIA growth and inflation. The Middle Class expands and thrives under Democratic administrations. Those are empirical facts.

                                    12.3 trillion dollars of our national debt is because of failed Republican supply side policies. Another fact.

                                    The Republicans had control of the White House and both houses of Congress for 6 years and their major claims to fame are starting two unnecessary wars, turning a surplus into a deficit, no balanced budgets, and the illegal passage of Medicare Part D (try to find the CSPAN tapes of that vote -- the cameras were blocked because of the shennanigans of Tom Delay). BTW, I never hear Medicare Part D referred to as "socialist" but it is, while the ACA is mild market based reform. Former Comptroller General of the US calls Medicare Part D the most irresponsible piece of legislation in modern times. How many Democrats voted AYE??? i could go on, but why....

                                    The oil subsidies are appalling and all the CEOs of the oil companies testified to Congress that THEY DO NOT NEED THEM. Let's take them at their word.

                                    Can't wait till Technology permits instant "fact checking" with subtitles below the words spoken by candidates of both parties. Even better, maybe mute the words instantaneously if the words in an campaign speech or ad or not true. Republican ads would be silent.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    Reply#24 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 8:39 PM EDT

                                    Using past misinformation to blather does not help you in supporting this Administration that in just three years, spent 5 trillion dollars on waste and fraud.

                                    Obama is the FRAUD President in Chief.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #24.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 8:59 PM EDT

                                    Navy: You'd do well to check into MSNBC's transgression of FACTS regarding the killing in Florida by a "white Hispanic".

                                    Shove that "fact checking" up your liberal rear.dearie.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #24.2 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 9:00 PM EDT

                                    Don't recall mentioning anything about Florida or MSNBC but if that is what you want to talk about -- have at it. Don't see any rebuttal of anything I said. That says it all. Everyone has an opinion.......Happy to debate. Not interested in name calling. You might want to check you spelling of your insults otherwise you make my case for me....

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #24.3 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 9:09 PM EDT

                                    very funny navy, but im not here for you or to convince you. i provide broader thinking than the spoonfed garbage you and your suppressive enablers eat. so, when people skim through the comments, i know mine will be seen, and at least questioned. they can investigate themselves and find the truth.

                                    oh yeah a favorite, like it or not

                                    commieblaster.com ENJOY!! DARE YOU TO LOOK! LOL!

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #24.4 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 9:11 PM EDT

                                    Let me know when you find some truth. So far....not looking so good...

                                    How about sprinkling your missives with a fact or two. Let's see. Want to start with how many private sector jobs GW Bush created? OOPs it's a negative number.

                                    Or how about how the DJIA performed? Got that at your fingertips? Want to lay it side by side with the performance of the market under Obama?

                                    How about that GDP growth in the fourth quarter of 2008...-9%. Hit your econ books and tell me when that last happened before?

                                    Got anything but opinions? Let me know when you get your GED.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #24.5 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 9:22 PM EDT
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                                    Obama the defiler in Chief. He has no energy policy other then buying from other Countries and even gave Brazil billions of taxpayer dollars to support his buddy George Soros billionaire investor in Brazil Petrol.

                                    Why is it that Americans do not really sit down and look at all the ill fated programs Obama has supported with our money to help other socialist countries. Helping them to provide jobs for people not in the United States.

                                    You have to be blind or on the Obama kool aid not to see he is destroying our Country. We have resources in oil. Obama claims we have only two percent of remaining oil left in the United States. Really Obama what about us having more oil then anyone else in the world. Obama is liar in chief.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    Reply#25 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 8:56 PM EDT

                                    Norm, I do not know where you get your information from. Oh let me guess, Fox! Who is the biggest shareholder of Fox? it the Saudi's prince Waleed Bin Talal. Now, who got us in the ugly Iraq war? The Saudies! Who wants to us to invide Iran? Once again, the Saudies! Who funds some of terrorist organization around the world, the Saudies! Who keeps on increasing oil production to elevate oil prices at our request, guess what the Saudies! you solve this F-ed up equation. One thing we know for sure that when gas prices were around $4 a gallon in 2008, oil was close to $150 a barrel, now is has been ranging between 103-108 in the last two months, and we are paying slightly above $4. In a time when oil companies continues to make record profit year after year. There is so much corp greed beyond any one who can possibly imagine. I love it when I see successful companies make money, but when they make an abseen amount of profit in a time when neither families or the economy as whole cannot afford it, then it is NOT right!

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #25.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2012 11:34 PM EDT

                                    All you can do is name call. You are like the school bully Norm and Russ. That is what bully's do when they know that they are wrong and are going to lose. They name call and pick on people, and guess what, no one cares what a bully has to say.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #25.2 - Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:29 AM EDT
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