Think your missing the point however as someone else does your thinking for you its perfectly understandable

It's Scott Walker's very approach that stinks. It's the same stinking approach the GOP uses, only Walker's was just more blatant.

Maybe the pensions are too high, maybe not. But you have to admit that when the Republicans ALWAYS conclude that the problem is "working people getting too much money", you at least have to question their motives.

But the fact that they always go after people aside, don't you think that negotiating with those people might have been the better tact?... maybe instead of demonizing them and calling for the abrupt end to the only real voice they have... the unions?

Walker now admits maybe he should have explained more. Yes, he should have, but that doesn't change the fact that he should be run out of the state on a rail. Anyone holding an office that shows no respect, even contempt, for people, need to be gone.

The fact that Romney and Santorum stand behind him won't change that outcome... it just adds justification to his demise and adds further proof of the continuing existence of "club GOP".

Actually all of the Unions agreed to pay more of their health and retirement benefits. The Police and Fire pay the least.

Funny in the mind of conservatives like Walker --- it's always the little guy who is the cause of all the problems. Tax breaks to billionaires NEVER cause any problems. It's that teacher, that nurse, that fireman - they're the greedy, selfish, lazy, nasty ones who FUBAR everything.

"Joe Walsh, Rubio & Santorum are in support of Scott Walker, All Tea ReTarded Trash that deserve each other"

charlie - it's not the 'little guy' causing the problem, it's big government throwing our $$ (yes, yours too) around like a bunch of drunken sailors. It's the public unions that funded election of state officials that in turn owed them and allowed outrageous health costs and pension structures. you find that acceptable? I don't like the tax breaks to the wealthy either but you know what, it's the federal gov't that does it more than any state gov't ever did. Your buddies, obama, nancy and harry are prime examples of pandering to the rich.

by your comment above, it appears you would prefer to have the state continue the slide into bankruptcy and have our taxes roll up to historic levels without a balanced budget in sight?

don't know about you but, i'd rather have one Walker than 14 runners...

It's the "starve the beast" policies to a tee.

Cut revenues by cutting taxes, go into deficit spending to cause a crisis so you can cut entitlements.

It's what Republicans have been doing since Reagan.

That's why they are against raising revenues.

Let's not forget the fact that the rest of the public employee unions agreed to sharp concessions on benefits, just as long as their rights to collectively bargain were not taken away. Walker and the Republicans in the state legislatures would not accept any compromise, and then ram through the anti-union legislation and then ran off like rats escaping a sinking ship.

Let us also not forget that Wisconsin would not have been in as much of a fiscal crisis if he had not given tax breaks to his wealthy buddies.

Tea Party governor LePage had the same anti-public union agenda in Maine, where the average teacher retires on $19,000 a year. The Republicans have an ideological agenda which is simply anti-government, pro-private business; they want to privatize everything from schools to healthcare, so that business will have the opportunity to make a profit on services formerly provided by the government. They also want to cripple unions in general, so that worker's salaries and benefits don't cut into corporate profits.

BrianBYour post is full of lies.

You imply the exemptions given to certain employers is some kind of favor to Nancy Pelosi. The purpose of the exemptions is to allow emplyers to continue to offer really bad insurance instead of no insurance, to part time workers. This exemption is in place until a marketplace is set up which will allow part time working individuals to buy better policies, on their own.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/2010-10-07-healthlaw07_ST_N.htm

Actually, the bill that is called "Obamacare" is nothing but compromise. Obama wanted a public option, but couldn't get it through Lieberman or Nelson, who agreed to join a filibuster if Harry Reid tried to force one through the Senate. Instead, they got the current "Affordable Patient's Protection Act" which included the individual mandate to buy insurance--which by the way was supported by many Republicans in the 90's as an alternative to Clinton's reform efforts.

And it is true that many people opposed the health care bill then, and now. But how many opposed it because they didn't want to see a liberal version of health care at all? And how many oppose it because it didn't go far enough?

Also, at the national level, we had a major recession, which demanded more spending to get the economy back on its feet. Many people criticized the early 2009 stimulus package for not going far enough, and for being half tax cuts, rather than being all stimulus (which is a more direct way to give a shot to the economy). Also, Obama put the Iraq war on the books, which made the increase in spending seem much bigger than it was.

We'll see in June whether the public agrees with Walker or the unions. Unfortunately for the unions, much of the momentum has been lost. Furthermore, there hasn't been a single Democratic figure to rally behind, and thus Walker may yet survive for another 2 1/2 years. It might have been smarter to put the recall election in November to coincide with the general election, so that anti-Walker votes help Obama and pro-Obama votes help get rid of Walker. But perhaps that was not legally possible.

In any case, Wisconsin will be an interesting state to watch in the next few months.

You live in Massachusetts, anyplace below FreePort is Mass. Ask any real Mainiac! Ask one of those ruddy blue tater farmers out side of Presque Isle!

Walker is both a thug and a criminal. The Feds could save WI a lot of money if they would move on him before the taxpayers recall him.

Santorum and Romney have shown their colors ~ birds of a feather.

The problem with Walker is he was elected to run the state of Wisconsin. But instead he chose to implement a national Republican agenda of social engineering designed to weaken the American worker.

Walker and the rest of the Republicans must go. If you who are non union think your wages and benefits won't drop if Unions lose barganing rights you are wrong. Take a look at the Republicans agenda to fix the deficit that they just proposed. This was in our local paper on March 30, 2012. "House Republicans today banded together to shower millionaires and billionaires with a massive tax cut paid for by ending Medicare as we know it and making extremely deep cuts to critical programs needed to create jobs and streghten the middle class." That was by White House press secretary Jay Carney. What the facts are that it would squeeze savings out of Medicare and Medicaid, the federal health insurance programs for the elderly and poor. It would force deep cuts in a wide range of spending, including Pell Grants for low income college students also they would block President Obama's plan to raise taxes on couples earning above $ 250,000 a year, and much more. Everything directed to help the wealthy. Walker must go and the rest of the Republicans or the number of poor will increase.

Brian B

The San Francisco area exemptions were for restaurants who offered their employer covered health insurance through a company called Flex Plan, that covers low wage workers. The exemptions allowed them to keep offering low benefits, instead of no benefits. The exemptions only last a year.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20063688-503544.html

Brian B

The CEO of the company I work for is a self made millionaire and as hardnosed as any businessman you have ever met, and he supports Democrats for public office. My company's CEO has lived abroad, and thinks we should have universal healthcare in this country, the same as they have in Australia and Europe. He told me that providing health insurance to his employees is ridiculously expensive, and he would hire more people if healthcare costs were controlled.

Contrary to your impression, Republicans aren't good for business, unless its the business they happen to be lobbying for. Look at ten years of economic stagnation during the Bush years. The rich got richer and the middleclass lost ground, under Republican policies. That's a fact.

Brian B

You seem to have an emotional attachment to your belief that Pelosi was rewarded with campaign donations that allowed her to win re-election (I guess that's your theory) by winning exemptions to the healthcare bill for companies in her district.

It's hard to argue facts with someone who is emotionally invested in their opinion.

The companies in SF won exemptions because they applied for them. The exemptions were to allow restaurants to continue to offer crappy health insurance, instead of no health insurance. II worked in restaurants in Maine for years, and never had employer based insurance. SF is pretty unusual in even offering insurance, no doubt because SF is a liberal district, which is also probably why they re-elected Nancy Pelosi! PS Maine also re-elected its Democratic Representatives in 2010, a blue dog from the north and a liberal from the south. And neither of these Democrats "won" exemptions for companies in their districts, that others couldn't have./p>

Beware to the country, elect Romney and the Walker blueprint is what you will see enacted for the entire country. The American Taliban is led by Walker and Ryan - Romney is too eager to join them.

Taliban shmaliban, these guys are just greedy bastards like all republicans have ever been. If they thought they could make money by being athiest cannibals, they'd be athiest cannibals. Never forget, its all about $ for them and their friends. That is their one and only core belief.

"Scott walkers has a new Slogan, Live and let Live"

Hes a man of his Word-For his Buddies ???

Patriotic American U.S.A.

"Scott walkers has a new Slogan, Live and let Live"

Hes a man of his Word-For his Buddies ???

How about he is a Tool- for his Koch buddies?

The state of Wisconsin was the worst in the country under Scott Walker. Wisconsin lost more jobs than any other state in the country.

The budget under Scott Walker went up with more taxpayer dollars going to the so-called 'job creators'. Didn't work, never does. Walker also was not up front about the WI deficit. Walker's administration mysteriously 'found' $600,000 at this time last year - but where or where did that money go? Walker's administration also said they balanced the budget through administration changes and savings - to date no specifics have been provided to identify where that happened.

Walker's budget is also facing a shortfall now, so where is Walker going to get the money to rebalance the budget? Waker is attempting to rob federal funds given to WI to help those WI citizens out who are in trouble with their mortgage. All from a guy who said he would not take federal funds.

During a special legislative session called by Walker to address job creation, Wisconsin got concealed carry and abstinence laws - but no 'jobs' bills. However, Walker and the republican legislature said gun and religous ideology laws would create jobs. Walker is also working hard to abolish Wisconsin's environmental laws to quickly push through mining permits.

Recently, parts of Walker's egregious Act 10 legislation that was designed to abolish unions was struck down. Walker is also a subject of investigation regarding his campaign, for which several of his staffers were prosecuted and convicted.

Let's hope Wisconsin recalls this stooge of the Koch bros and then he goes to jail!

RECALL WALKER WISCONSIN!!!!!!!!!!!

And, Wisconsin also apologizes for Paul Ryan and Ron Johnson.

Beverly, The Kocheads are greedy people and l hope they lose their fortune with a class action lawsuit for sabotaging our Nation.

Brianb-999431

Nowhere in your post do you mention the fact that President G. W. Bush signed it into law.

Why is that?

You also left out the repeal of the Glass-Steigal Act and who signed that?

I'd say your post is quite partisan.

Brian B

George Bush and the Republican majority Congess cut taxes to historically low levels in 2001, and this lead to an increase in the wealth of the top 1%, but not to an increase in job creation or to income levels of 99% of Americans.

George Bush directed the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, during his two terms, with the cooperation of Congress, which resulted, in combination with tax cuts, into a ballooning federal deficit.

These are facts. Now, Republicans want to claim they are "fiscal conservatives" when history has shown, Republicans are fiscally irresponsible.

jolly old soul, I'm sorry, too busy taking care of the sick, mentally ill and alcoholic people who have come to Portland, from the rural parts of my state, to answer your charge that I don't live in the "real Maine."

BrianB

Apparently you are unaware that the top 1% have gotten richer during the last decade EVEN during the recession, while working stiffs, like you and me, have seen our incomes stagnant. The Bush tax cuts did NOT lead to job growth or national prosperity, so its rediculous to keep saying Republican policies will help the country, when so far, they haven't.

It's very simple common workers should voluntarily cut their pay and benefits, to boost company profits (and executive bonus checks), then we cut the taxes for the corporations and the for people with the most income so they have even more income (and the government has less income), we must cut social security and medicare, (because that's is where all our money goes, and Americans do not like the government acting like their nanny when they are poor, old, and sick), and this will lead to increased opportunity, prosperity and freedom for all Americans, it will balance the budget and pay down the deficit.

April Fools!

No sadly it is actually the republican platform.

Our incomes are stagnant because of the democrats? Is that an april fools joke Brian. Because I was making a hundred grand a year working with my tools under Clinton, plus I started putting together a hell of a retirement portfolio. The jobs went south and so did the stock market under Bush, that is a fact, as I have stated before lost $480,000 thousand under Bush, gained it all back inside of Obama's first year and it has been doing real fine ever since. Democrats did ruin the economy, they don't push for right to work for less and less and less laws, which has stagnated (actually lowered) incomes in the south where you live. You are just making stuff up off the top of your head for April fools day I suppose, but the numbers don't add up for me I know my numbers were better when democrats are office, and I took a beating when they were not. The numbers don't lie, less is not more Brian, and it never will be. BTW Unions Rock it would have been impossible for a working stiff like me to put that now cool million dollar retirement portfolio together without a collective bargaining agreement, $10.80 an hour and a matching 401K in Texas would have never gotten me there in ten lifetimes. Hey and guess what my employers are millionaires and I pay a lot of taxes and use no government services or charity for my outrageous health-care expenses. You keep fighting for less, I'll keep fighting for more, I have devoted body, and mind to an industry all my working life, I made a lot of money for my bosses and I know I deserve a fair share of that profit, and obviously the fine American union employers I work for feel the same way.

I don't hate rich people, why I love Forrest, and Forrest is rich!

"This is about whether or not in this country we can elect people of their word, who clearly lay out their agenda before they’re elected."

Uh yeah, that's why Scott Walker is up for recall. Because he, like so many Republicans at the state level, campaigned on jobs and then after election pursued an entirely different agenda -- WTF is this RNC Chairman Reince Priebus saying? These far-right governors were busy busting unions, passing anti-abortion bills up the wazoo, voter suppression, and every A.L.E.C. POS legislation possible. But not one damn jobs bill from any of them.

As for presidential candidates like Romney who is backing Scott Walker, Teapublicans talk about picking winners -- Ha! Romney, who supported the bail-out of Wall Street but not the auto industry - Ha! It figures the guy would back a sleaze bag like Scott Walker, along with Paul Ryan -- All the more reason NOT to vote for Romney.

And that goes for other radical governors like Rick Scott in Florida, Jan Brewer in Arizona, Bob Ultrasound McDonnell in Virginia, etc... It's time for all of them to go -- And to shut down A.L.E.C. too!

I love you too Amy, I am just a working man, but I was able to provide a decent living and a measure of security for my family. I won't be rich until I retire or die whichever comes first, but the money is there for my wife and kids. It is fully vested, wholly owned, and does not require any future monthly payouts on the part of the employers. Ha I got one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel, I would be a good catch if I was not married with children.

Walker epitomizes the worst in American political leadership; i.e. screwing the middle class to benefit big corporations and the 1%. Luckily the 99% is alive and well and will soon throw this parasite out of office.

Brianb-999431

This is old hat democrat tactics. Your liberal paper is using a classic democrat playbook ploy. The democrats have been using this line for over 30 years.

You want to see some tired old statements? Go to your local library and look at newspapers in the August 1931 time frame. What you'll see are Republicans attacking Roosevelt on every move he makes. It was nearly the same scenario then... the GOP, with the aid of Wall Street and the upper-crust, took our economy to it's knees, then acted like they had all the answers when Roosevelt tried to help the poor by creating WPA's. The Republican narrative won out and the economy stayed in the hole until World War II caused massive deficit spending... but that's another story. It DOES end well, by the way.

Awwwwwwww...... $480k in one year? Your wasting your time and efforts. If you can do that you could be beyond wealthy. But Im sure you have ethical issues with being that rich. Im not about to tell you my net worth, but Ive done well and have no where near the return your claiming. You have undersold your self!

Republicans and their shills, say hey Brian B. remind me of lottery ticket buyers. They always BELIEVE they will be the ones who will hit it big/become millionaires, irregardless of the odds so they continue to buy their tickets/vote Republican, spending money against their best interest/Ryan plan. And then BELIEVING the horrible (insert ism here) Democrats are the source of their woes.

Oh yeah, and screaming "keep government out of my life-healthcare"/medicare-foodstamps.???????

Amazing!

Think there's a tie in with religion here somewhere?

Wow, listening to the liberals continue to support Obama's failed presidency continues to amaze me! Did they not listen to the Solicitor General's weak and inconsistent testimony supporting Obama's expensive albatross around the country's neck that is obamacare? Their denials remind me of a story:

A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered her altitude and spotted a man in a boat below. She shouted to him, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."

The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, "You're in a hot air balloon, approximately 30 feet above ground elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level. You are a

31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude. She rolled her eyes and said, "You must be a Republican."

"I am," replied the man. "How did you know?"

"Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically correct. But I have no idea what to do with your information and I'm still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help to me."

"The man smiled and responded, "You must be an Obama-Democrat."

"I am," replied the balloonist. "How did you know?"

"Well," said the man, "you don't know where you are -- or where you are going. You've risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise you have no idea how to keep and you expect me to solve your problem. You're in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but somehow, now it's my fault."

Was this before or after the man in the boat threw his grandmother overboard?

Frankly politicians of all ilks stink. Yet working with what we have the facts are that;

Republicans believe in survival of the fittest, and

Democrat believe in helping their fellow man.

Which side are you on?

miked..... great analogy! And a simple message for everyone who is tired of waiting for BO to spur the economy.... that just ain't gonna happen under his guidance!

We aren't going to get the truth from the old liberal media that should be outraged at what obama has done to us.... solyndra, fast and furious are just two examples of his disregard for the Constitution!

Gee Brian it seems when there is a Democratic president and and things go well you want to credit a republican Congress, and when there is a republican president and things go badly you want to blame a democratic congress, so why now do you lay all the blame at Obama seems you should be railing about the republican controlled Congress for the situation you are presently in. Plus the south is mainly controlled by republican Governors and legislators how can Obama be wrecking the south where you seek employment security, why not blame republicans that are running the show down there.

I am sorry to hear somebody stole from you and wrecked your business, I would interested in how that happened, and hope you were able to recoup some of your money from that thief. I hope he at least wound up in prison married to the guy with the most cigarettes! I also hope your employees did not lose their wages and benefits because of him. We require that our union contractors post a surety bond at an amount that is tied to the number of people they employ so that if they go belly up for any reason there is a good chance that we can recoup moneys that may be owed to their employees.

Outside of the surgery itself, the best I can tell is the nurses do all the work and most of the procedures, but the doctors get all the credit and the big bucks, I am thinking about organizing the nurses, but then the damn doctors probably would conspire to kill me. I guess I am doing ok, I got to go back in a couple of weeks for a check up to see what is going on, and to see if they want to give me more treatments. If I organize those nurses I know they will have my back, many of them are overworked and underpaid for the the service they perform.

Forrest, you are rich in many ways besides your bank account. Glad you're on our side. Thanks for sticking up for nurses, and receptionists, as well :)

Awwwwww Jolly I am not stating my net worth, I am only talking about my retirement fund which was cut in half at the the end of Bush's term, to the tune of $480,000 that is a fact, and it was not my singular experience, anybody that had stocks lost their butt especially in that last 12 months of Bush. I am not even considering the hit I and everybody else took on their property values, that may not have been a factor in the neighborhood where you live in Detroit but for most Americans it represented a huge loss of net worth. My portfolio did recoup in the first year of Obama's term and is most definitely still kicking tail, however I can't take personal credit because it is all in managed funds. I do not make individual stock trades I only pick what managed funds I place my money in. Even the pros took a beating, a lot of self proclaimed Internet day traders really got their heads handed to them, people that put their money in Maddoff's basket lost it all. In any event I was not giving myself credit I was giving credit to my collective bargaining agreement and the employers who honor it for having something to invest in the first place. The people who work in right to work for less and less and less states for ridiculously low wages and few if any benefits did not likely have much of a retirement fund portfolio to lose. Lastly I have no ethical issues about that money whatsoever I earned that money hour by hour over many years, and nobody ever paid me more money than they could afford to, that is for damn sure. Rest assured Jolly my whole point is that I have never been into "underselling myself" or my union brothers and sisters for the work they perform and resulting profits they produce for their employers.

Sorry to hear about the rough times with regard to your business, I know if you can't afford it it makes no difference what they charge but $165 an hour does not sound bad compared to the $450 and hour I was paying patent attorneys for my patents and trademarks and that was in the middle 90's when I was only making a little over 30 bucks an hour, however I will say I could just about work all the overtime I wanted, which paid double-time in most cases and time and a half in a few cases. I worked some hours back then, like I said I was making a hundred a grand a year with my tools. I have mostly been involved with heavy industrial work that is where the money is at for my line of work, the residential and commercial has gotten crazy to try to make a buck, too many people with a set of Time-Life books think they are contractors and I agree they have squeezed the legitimate contractors to death and the customer has no idea what kind of crappy work they are paying for in many instances.

The treatments suck big time, the whole idea seems to be to load you up with poison and kill the cancer or you whichever comes first. I don't complain much though, I see poor little children bravely taking their treatments and I see their broken hearted parents, so who am I to complain. I will say this though, if I did not have the excellent health care benefits I have, I would likely be broke or dead by now.

Wouldn't it be great if the welfare states in the south got their wish and suceeded?

Think of how much more money the "blue" states who pay the bills of the nation would have!

And we could move on from the 10th century ideas proposed by the South.

Please! Please! let the south rise again!

Then you could elect Walker Confederate president and put all the cities of the south under his appointed Tzar's, like he's doing in Wisconsin.

Sound like freedom?............If your a rich Republican maybe.

Time for the welfare queen states in the south to pay up or shut up!

Brianb-999431

LMarcT - My major contention with the democrats and the left is they don't recognize that their party has been contributory to bad economies and good economies alike........... Could you imagine what we could accomplish if both sides were to actually put their heads together and strike up some common ground to achieve forward motion instead of stagnation? Right now it's a battle and both sides are very contentious against the other. The blame game needs to stop. Iron out differences and let's move forward as one country.

BrianB, I am damned impressed. Seriously. Best reconciliatory post I've seen in a while. I absolutely agree.

I would have claimed the Democrats are only blaming the GOP in self defense with what started as Rovian politics back a few elections ago. But, you know what? It's not true, and you are correct. Both sides have blame, the system itself is as much a help as a hinderence, and if we met in the middle, an awful lot of good could be accomplished.

So... as a self proclaimed tree-hugging bleeding-heart liberal, I'm asking you now...how do we get THAT done? How do we get rid of "the uglies"?

Ourdoc

Funny how he had to end Unions for all public workers.... except the ones protecting him that struck a back door deal first. What is good for one is good for ALL. Walker needs to go as do ALL the RepukliCONS.

Doc, if I recall correctly, didn't THE BARRY take over the car companies, except Ford, eliminating the investments for bondholders while giving his friends in the car union a position in the earnings of the company while not investing a dime for the opportunity? Wasn't the car union a major contributor to his election fund?

Please explain to me the difference in this, and how it is appropriate for THE BARRY to do this and not for the Gov. of WI?

Winemaker,

We the people.

The first three words in our Constitution.

Think the founding fathers might be telling us something?

All parties might consider this pesky first sentence when deciding anything.

Yeah it is a double edged sword, some people have little control over how their retirement fund is invested, and that can be a problem, and some people have the freedom to move it around freely and that can be a problem. I am glad you did not take a big loss, I thought about switching to bonds at one point, but a lot of the damage was already done, and you are right they are relatively safe but they don't generate as much income, I am glad I decided to ride it out in the stock funds as I did, it has rebounded faster and beyond what I ever dared to expect. Bonds would have worked for me if I had moved sooner, I just did not think it could go lower at the time, but it did, every time I thought it was bottomed out, I was fooled it would drop more, so I felt it was to late to move to bonds, I would just wait for a rebound and I actually moved to some more aggressive funds instead of less aggressive. I got lucky I guess, I pretty much went all in, if you make a lot of moves it is easy enough to zig when you should have zagged, thats why I like managed funds instead of trying to pick individual stocks. Ha If I feel the urge to pick a quick winner or loser I go to the local Casino and I get the results real fast.

Brianb, LOL Thanks. Let's see how long we can keep this up as new issues come along :)

BTW, regarding 401K, back in the 1990s I was working for Lucent Technologies. I was in a position of being able to keep tabs on the stock market and did what was as close to day-trading as you can get with my 401K. I did VERY well until Lucent tanked... went from $85 to $4 and I lost all my gains. Oh well.

Have a great rest of the weekend.

I don't know how in the hell you are going to trade silver for goods and services these damn kids today can't even count your change back when you use good old American money!

Forrest - you owe me a new computer screen! I just started eating my homemade gumbo and read your post. Whatta mess! ROFL!

Sorry about the mess Brian, but it is true, these kids can steal my credit cards off of the Internet, but can't count my change back, whats up with that?

'A funny thing happened. My dad shut down an American factory and put everybody out of work. Haa haaaa haaaa haaaaa haaaaaaaa!' --Mitt Romney

Forrest-

Not all us kids can't count change. Some (a lot, in fact) can't, but I can. But I'll admit, my generation isn't the smartest in the world. Take a look at Lindsey Lohan (yes, she is part of the new generation). Then again, we do have a lot of potential....

If you can count change I would give you the job! I know kids are smart they are just smarter in different ways, it is the lack of some what I consider basic I find alarming. Then again maybe I am just getting too old.

Brother and Sister American, Face the Truth; If you vote for ANY republicanCrimeCartelHoncho, you are putting your own best interests and those of your family in jeopardy. These republicanCrimeCartelSoldiers are doing what they learned from the Ronald Reagan Era: TaxEvasionBonuses for the rich self entitled class, blame it on everyday working Americans and RAPE the nations wealth. This Same scenario plays out century after century. Notably, the last one was The French Revolution with the EVIL rich aristocrats STEALING 95% of France's wealth and watching amusingly as the French People, were jobless, starved and died in the streets of Paris. THE SAME IS HAPPENING HERE And There WILL be An Armed Revolution with 40,000,000 guns in the hands of American citizens; which is why the cops have these quiet little "gun surrender marathons- NO Questions asked!". The Cops KNOW they CANNOT Stop an all out armed revolution By the American People, but do what they have done down through the ages....Switch Sides.

So when YOU see the likes of MittTaxPittanceRommel and THE Vomitorium "endorse" fellow republicanCrimeCartelSoldierGovWalker who follows the Cruel RepublicanDogma and Strategy, they are Warning YOU. "See This American People? We republican CRIMINALS are out to enslave YOU and YOUR children; Your Sons as Soldiers to fight and Die in our very profitable and Unending Wars and work You Hard for $3.00Per/Day". They want to begin a New Era Of American Indentured Servitude while they and their families live in UnHeardOf Luxury. In History, Just before the Storming Of The Bastille fomenting The French Revolution, The rich aristocrats Did Not Heed the Classic warning signs as they ignore them NOW; We American People are telling you republicanClubConfederates: "The Writing Is On The Wall".

I can count change; done it before (though not at a register), and can do it again; for a good wage. Not $20 an hour, but as much as a middle class teenager can and should be paid.

Because he is crazy and a neo Nazi to boot. Same old, same old from GOP... they forgot what they wrote about!

Paul is not crazy he just has not concept of reality and the reality is that we are owned by the military industrial complex (Boeing> Lockheed, Northrop, General Dynamics, SAIC, Dyna corp, RaYTHEON TO JUST NAME FEW - AND IT IS INTHEIR BEST INTERESTS TO KEEP THE "WAR MACHINE GOING"

You need to call George Bush and ask about the 3.5 TRILLION he added to the deficit before he left the country in the worst economic disaster since 1932. His wars and taxcuts and unfunded drug plan are what doubled the debt.

The debt ceiling is something else you obviously don't understand. It's all about the bonds we sold to other nations to finance the country that we must be able to redeem...look it up.

News Flash - Jeff is so right. The Bushy Debt didn't simply stop accruing in January 2009. Think "2 cowboy wars", "Medicare Part D", and Tycoon Welfare" - and there you have it. The country is only paying for continuing maintenance and repairs on all the staggering Dubya damage...

And yes - Ron Paul is a crazy little elf who'll still be campaigning in December.

I still find it disturbing that people are so lazy they wont even take a few moments to research .

The vast majority of our national debt is owed to ???? Surprise !! The American people themselves! In the form of savings bonds , treasury bonds , etc etc etc .

We are not in debt to China or anyone else in vast amounts compared to our obligations to ourselves!

Crazy or not, there is only one way to pay down debt... Create a SURPLUS.. otherwise you are spinning your wheels>>

Increase Revenue Collection and Generation.
Reduce Spending
Design and enact a flexible Balanced Budget Amendment that also included Surplus Revenue with the main focus on DEBT ELIMINATION (not Debt Reduction)

(here Paul is correct, begin with Foreign Spending and Aid, namely Foreign Military Installations and redundant deployments and securities then where and when warranted Domestically)

Realize a Surplus and dedicate it towards Debt Reduction

As for Gov Scott... for good or bad, he lied by omission, and was finally "humbled" enough to admit it.. (see article).

He lost the confidence of the electorate, who now demands a recall vote. Which he may survive.

That is the RIGHT of the People. Something everyone should support....

I'm amazed that everyone is fine with the fact that we are $15.6Trillion in debt and keep raising our debt ceiling

I'm amazed that everyone WAS fine and said nothing, nary a peep, when most of this debt was incurred, when the republicans had the majority in the House and Senate and the presidency from 2001 to 2006 and they spent, spent, spent and spent some more like drunken sailors passing every spending bill and on top of that two tax cuts for the wealthy, Medicare Advantage, one war, one invasion and occupation, all of which were completely 100% unfunded, unpaid for, whatever you want to call it.

Oh yeah, and then due to their failed policies, when the banking system was about to implode in 2008 and George W. Bush and his Treasure Secretary henry Paulson got on their knees and begged the majority democratic congress to save the nation from economic disaster resutling in trillions more in unpaid unfunded debt.

That is the history, those are the facts.

The republicans only care about deficits when the democrats have the majority and/or the presidency. It is never an issue with them when they are in the majority and in fact, they spend more and run up deficits beyond what the democrats ever have.

"I'm amazed that everyone is fine with the fact that we are $15.6Trillion in debt and keep raising our debt ceiling"

I'm amazed that when Bush and his Republican Congress put two tax cuts on the credit card, put two wars on the credit card while not evening including much of the costs of those wars in the calculations, put a new entitlement on the credit card, put a massive agribusiness bill on the credit card, turned the largest surplus of all times into the largest deficit of all time, yet most of you so called "conservatives said NOTHING until Preaident Obama took office. One of your hero Cheney said deficits don't matter. I don't recall too many conservatives disagreeing with him when he said that. Then all of the sudden you got all wound up over deficits. Where were you from 2001 to 2009???

Good morning Raab....come up with any more bogus stories about girlfriends and CVS?

Scott Walker is in trouble...face it...he and his partners in crime are probably going down...even if they don't it sends a strong message, don't you think?

Yep...Walker's having many sleepless nights between now and June 6th...

Oh, and Medicare part d? Corporate welfare for Big Pharma...they simply don't need it, just like the big tax breaks for oil companies...get rid of them too. But seems the GOP voted against that. Why do you think that is, Raab?

Santorum was campaigning in Wisconsin and was very excited to be with Scott Walker, Ricky goes on to say if he gets the nomination he will pick Scotty as VP. I think this Nation is going to Pot, God help America.

MA Tom-the unions could only have a strangle hold on this country's big toe or maybe the ankle. They account for 9% of workers. They are not only not the problem-they are a poor excuse for a scape goat. We are being distracted from bankers, mortgage brokers and vulture capitalists causing this recession. They are forgotten and busy now betting on oil futures to further damage the economy and halt any recovery that would cause attention to return to regulations and laws that would prevent them from buying that seventh house with their own car elevator. Where is the logic in attacking the majority of voters in a democracy? The social smoke screens are still working to bring poor and lower middle class evangelical, pro-life, pro-gun and low information voters to work against their own interests. Freedom really means pro-choice for yourself and your neighbors. I won't tell you how to live your life and you wouldn't think of telling me how to live mine.

I left out the biggest anchor around his scrawny neck. GAS PRICES doubled what they are when he was elected.

You can pass all the credit on to the Middles East unrest and the fact that India and China have an exploding middle class that is consuming oil as quick as it is being drilled.

The U.S. is actually producing more oil than in recent past.

Global demand is up. Couple that with speculators and you have the reason gas is at its current rate.

As of today we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world!

We also have the highest percentage of corporations that get a free ride on taxes. Hell, we even give multi billion dollar profiting companies corporate welfare.

Like it or not, if the rich are in charge, the rich will benefit the most. Just like if the poor were in charge, the poor would benefit the most.

I love how moonbats complain about Medicare Part D while supporting ObamaCare

Please state what is logical about not allowing the government to negotiate prescription drug prices, as Part D does. Why can I get my Oxy script for $225.00 if I pay cash for it, yet if Big Pharma has to bill Uncle Sam for it, it costs $1060.00? Do I have to state how big of a rip off that is?

As for Obama's healthcare reform, it isn't even fully instituted, let alone fully understood. For anyone to attempt to make any valid statements about it would be foolish no matter what side you are on about it.

You are so focused on a single person that the other 500+ politicians are bleeding you dry. You know, the ones that actually shape our laws and policies.

Good morning Raab....come up with any more bogus stories about girlfriends and CVS?

Good morning Mickey!

Funniest part of Raab's little fairy tale is, I got an e-mail from one of my right wing whacko friends claiming the exact same thing... lmao

Guess CVS's across America are under attack by hoodie wearing 'thugs'...

Weird...

Morning Mickey and Feistness, Just updating my CV this morning. Added in the two steaks and three bottles of fine pinot noir that I had last night ... also mentioned the night's frolic with newgal. I found a new position under a well lit lamp post that I will apply for tonight. Fortunately I have the tool needed for the trade.

he directly lobbied democrat senators to vote no on keystone

To vote no on it's current path. Not no to doing it.

I for one am glad he did. Last thing we need, is to have our largest potable water source contaminated by a product that is being shipped to a port refinery for export.

Some want to push this pipeline through without proper impact studies and pathing. The handful of jobs isn't worth the possible loss of our biggest water source for watering our nations bread basket.

Now that's a true moonbat solution....

At what point did I pass that off as a solution? I stated a very simple fact and nothing more. Now that I see that you just put words into other peoples mouths, I am hard pressed to find a reason to try to have a reasonable debate with you. You have clearly made up your mind before anyone even says anything.

@Rob,

Thanks for going down the list of Republican talking points today. It let's me know how desperate they are to make Obama a "one term President" versus doing the work that would help the economy or bring back jobs.

Let's take your points one by one shall we:

Republicans crafted Medicare part D behind closed doors and passed it via reconciliation and didn't pay for it. It's something they left Obama to do. So the hypocrisy here is complaining about passing things via reconciliation and jamming them down our throat when they did the same thing with Medicare part D.

Obama's popularity has now been in the 50% for quite sometime. Republicans are trying to recall him through the election process. To date, independents are not going to support Romney and Obama enjoys close to a 10 point lead over Romney. In fact, if the election were held today, Obama would win a second term.

Bush followed the Republicans policies of "starve the beast" to a tee. He cut taxes (revenue) and went into deficit spending (remember "deficits don't matter") with two wars and Medicare part D. This caused the financial crisis that Obama came into clean up and is now the excuse that Republicans use to try and cut entitlements like Medicare. Obama has to pay for that which Bush put in place and the price gets higher every day with the deficit. American's know where the problem came from, which is why now American's trust Obama with the economy more than Republicans. Also, let's not forget that Romney's economic plan raises the deficit.

The "Tea Party Downgrade" is the result of Boehner walking away from Obama's 4 trillion dollar deal because he could not get the votes from the Tea Party. You'll see in the elections that Republicans will take a toll over this.

Like it or not, Rob, the middle class and the poor are the majority in this country, and thus are the majority of voters.

It's the people like you who have been brainwashed by the GOP into voting against themselves that is the real problem.

Wake up to the fact that the future viability of the U.S. will depend upon all of us being willing to do what is right for the good of the country.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

If you google any gas price chart, prices are not that much out of whack.

Since when do Presidents control the price of gas?

Yet another lame Republican talking point to try and sway the uniformed.

[To the contrary, Obama put in a moratorium on gulf production against the advice of his own panel...]

Sorry Raab...this outright misconception (lie) has been debunked so many times it isn't funny anymore...but here goes:

President Obama placed a moratorium on OIL DRILLING in the Gulf, meaning no NEW wells were to be drilled until the BP disaster was ironed out...OIL PRODUCTION, on the other hand (i.e. the pumping of oil from existing wells) was not affected. Raab, the key part of the sentence here is "NOT AFFECTED". The DRILLING moratorium only affected a very small percentage of wells.

And as far as Keystone goes, you got the big old smackdown on this recently as well...but here...let me refresh your memory:

1) First the GOP got Keystone and the EPA to agree to consider other routes
through Nebraska back in November. Then the GOP called for Obama to decide
using the old route and gave him two weeks to do so. In any situation like this
the conservative thing to do is to vote "No" rather than be stampeded.

2) There is a huge issue with taking millions of acres through eminent domain and
confiscatory easements. I would think that the conservatives would seek to
prevent the government from taking land from people who don't want to sell it
or granting easements without compensation. This would be the most massive use
of eminent domain in the history of the country.

3) It is the people in states that the pipeline does not cross who are for it. The
citizens of the states it runs through are virtually all against it, as is the REPUBLICAN governor.

4) The pipeline would belong to a Canadian company. We were supposed to take land
from American farmers by force if necessary and then give it to a foreign
company. This is a use to which eminent domain should never be put to use.

5) The reason that the Canadians want to send the sand, clay, oil tar slurry down
a pipe is because it is so highly acidic and abrasive that it is causing
environmental problems in Canada already. But sending heated highly acidic and
highly abrasive down a pipe across the US is okay? This is an environmental
problem that Texas does not need.

6) The oil and refinery products that resulted would be targeted for China. They
would not have gone into the gas tanks of American or Canadian citizens, yet
those same American and Canadian taxpayers would have footed the bill for any
spill. So we wouldn't get the oil or gas, just the toxic sand and sludge.

7) The pipeline was engineered (as is much made to be bought by Americans these
days) to the absolute minimum in order to maximize profits. This is not
something on which to try to get by with the minimum. But on the other hand why
would the Canadians worry about it. Not their problem.

8) And lastly, the Keystone company was promising "as many as 120,000" full time jobs. The GOP jumped on that despite the fact that only about 1200 long term and 4500-6500 short term jobs would result, most of them for Canadian citizens and not Americans. Even the 4500/6500 number is being disputed. When did the GOP start trying to decrease unemployment in Canada? Americans would be the ones holding the STOP/SLOW signs during the construction.

The biggest problem is that a foreign profit-making corporation would be able to successfully lobby the American Congress to take land from Americans and give it to them. And that foreign corporation gave every indication that it would act politically, but not necessarily responsibly. I am against many current uses of eminent domain but this one is waaaaay off the scale. No American should consider it a good thing. This isn't just taking the land for the actual pipeline, but for pumping stations, easements on either side, and 40-foot wide access to the full length of the pipeline by easements that Keystone can require the individual states to make.

So, Raab...how can Conservatives/Republicans justify such a radical left-wing socialist/Marxist
takeover of private land that only benefits a single foreign company?

They can’t…

So, Raab...in your infinite wizardry of thinking, Obama owns gas prices (which are high, which is a bad thing), yet he doesn't own the fact that oil production is up (which is a good thing)...

...hmmm...I'm sort of noticing a pattern here Raab....

[...above is the vote on Medicare Part D. You will note a lot of D votes for it.]

Raab, your skull must be six inches thick. It makes no difference if there were "a lot of D votes for it"...it's STILL corporate welfare, and benefits Big Pharma a hell of a lot more than it benefits those that it was supposed to help.

You keep trying to change the subject and deflect the conversation...why is that Raab?

[Ask Obama he's the one during the 2008 campaign attempt to pin high gas prices on Bush in SIX different commercials.]

So, you're saying these things because they did it to Bush?

Now if that doesn't take the cake...

[Thanks for posting the proof that Obama enacted a moratorium.]

Raab, you idiot...no one is disputing it! The moratorium was on DRILLING, not PRODUCTION as you claimed...drilling only comprised about 1% of the wells affected.

Maybe you shouldn't have stopped at that crack house after visiting CVS...

[Feisty: Good morning Mickey!]

[Ideo: Morning Mickey and Feistness...]

Oh, hi Feisry and Ideo...I hadn't notice you come in...I was too tied up justifying just how misinformed Raab here is to notice.

I'm sorry...it won't happen again.

How typical Rob, you only tell half the story on Medicare part D. The point is still, it was a Republican idea that was unpaid for and contributed to the financial crisis.

On gas prices, Obama ran against McCain not Bush. Provide links to the commercials and I'll take those on one by one.

Regardless, Presidents don't control the price of oil.

[Provide links to the commercials and I'll take those on one by one.]

Hello Eric...Raab is gone...you won't get an answer.

By the way...good job. ;)

Brianb-999431 - try as you will, the dump Obama club is going to lose. He is a better President than any of the GOP candidates could ever hope to be. And, Bush was and will remain the worst of our lifetime.

And, just a comment on one of your earlier "points" (you never really have any) the two wars Bush started were never accounted for in his budgets. Never! They were conveniently left off the "books."

Brianb,

Obama has done plenty about the price of gas. He opened the reserve, and he's got the Saudi's saying that the price won't go up.

Nice try.

Actually we can write the debt down, tear it up, X it out, or, in whatever way we wish, make it disappear, and begin afresh. We've done so before. Mainest thing here is, don't let the lesser minded become too excited.

you just complain about everything and with no idea what cause and effect are. I was going to write more, but you are so "all over the place" that it is difficult where to begin, or end. For sure the country is near complete bankruptcy and Republicans are trying to restore fiscal sanity and by the way save social security and medicare because, in a very short time, they will cease to exist.

The Bush Sub Prime Melt Down as a Result of the Repeal of the Glass-Steagal Act caused the mess we are in today. Any other explanation is a diversion and an obfuscation.

While we remain at each others Throats, you can take comfort in what you may interpret as the truth, but do the Math Steve;

China-1.5 Billion People and Counting...

India-1.5 Billion People and Counting...

U.S.A. 350 Million People and falling, Marriage rates at less then 50%

Talk to me in Decade when we are all speaking Chinese and Indian to our Chinese and Indian Bosses!

So Steve - is yer koolaid grape or cherry?

Governor Walker has kept his promises, improved the state's economy and reduced unemployment by 13% and the Libidiots want to recall him and go back to the "old "ways. Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, it's the Democrat Party Way.

Walker has had little to do with anything other than tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations. Twisting facts has worked in the past for Rebublicans and partial truths are the same thing. Insanity: Tax cut after tax cut to the wealthy and corporate "job creators" and no jobs. Blaming workers for daring to want a decent life and retirement while making the rich richer and richer. Thinking by the average Republican that they are part of the elite crowd. The average Republican will need their Medicare and Social Security when they retire. It will be non partisan-it won't be there for them either. It will be too late to think for yourself then. Wake up!!! The Tea Party's famous cry-"hands off my social security" demonstrates the lack of awareness of many voters. The Tea Party literally cuts off their noses to spite their faces.

Scott Walker is the biggest load of trash in the U.S.A., anyone that backs him is a loser as well. Our landfills are full of this kind.

As a side note if Presidnent Obama wouldn't have bailed out AIG for example when he did a good part of this country would have lost their pensions. Their pensions were under the umbrella of AIG and have been for years. How would you like to be retired or ready to retire and lost your pension?

In Scott Walker’s mind it was those lazy, selfish, over-paid teachers, firemen, nurses, policemen, public employees, auto workers, crashed the stock market, wiped out half of everyone’s 401Ks, took trillions in TARP money, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes.

He Ran on one Platform and then when he won, he went after the Unions. Totally unrelated to what he ran for.

He Lied to the Voters. He knew what he was going to do all along before he won the Election.

He is a Total tool for the Koch Brothers at Taxpayer Expense.

When the Economy Collapsed as a result of the Bush Sub Prime Melt Down, the Republicans saw their opportunity to go after the Unions and in the Process use them as another Scapegoat for a bad economy instead of placing the Blame where it rightfully belonged, on the Bush Sub Prime Melt Down.

Need further Proof, Look what was done to the Unions under their Republican Governor in Indianan and the other States with Republican Governors.

This was all planned out very carefully before the Republicans took back the House in 2010...

"Scott Walker was jealous of Hitler"

Patriotic... If Hitler were alive, I think he would be jealous of Walker. Walker is far more reaching in stamping out all the bad people.

As a model for what, higher taxes, pothole filled roads, closed rest areas, escalating crime in the capitol? And yes, the cutting of union benefits.

As a model for what....

"Privatization" of government business and responsibilities and selling off the State's assets to private enterprises????

Correct, no matter how you polish them; they are still three turds.

rradiko,

Romney called Scott Walker his hero!!

Well then, Romney can follow in the footsteps of McCain and put Walker on his ticket, another 1year governor.

Romney/Walker = McCain/ Palin

Good luck RNC with selling this to the American people

"Scott Walker walks with the 1% Kocheads and has Tea ReTarded credentials"

Dear Patriotic, Please stop using the word "retarded" in your posts. It is offensive to a lot of us who have family members that are or have been classified Retarded. I however agree 100% with your sentiments. Scott Walker needs to go! But then so do all of the so called Tea Party members that want to destroy the middle class. Thanks.

I know Patriotic American U.S.A. and hes not about disrespect to anyone except the GOP/TP for what they are doing to this Country.

I'm a bleeding heart liberal but tard is insulting.

It's like you are taking innocent, mentally handicapped people and degrading them to the status of politicians.

You have to admit, it's an insult to the mentally disabled.

George, unfortunately there are many thousands of lemmings who will vote for these vipers because they have no understanding of history. Those of you who are anti-union need to do some research into what it was like for the American worker BEFORE there were unions because if people like Scott Walker get their way, we will be going back to that. You've heard of the ME generation? Well the GOP is the ME party.

The subject is Gov. Walker. You are deflecting the topic. "Everybody else is doing it" is not a justification for what Gov. Walker did. No reasonable parent would ever let their child get away with this excuse, and it's just sad when adults try it.

Actually President Obama did run on health care reform, and even though the republicants didn't vote for it they did help write the law, in fact the entire health care reform law came directly out of the Heartland institute, a conservative thinktank.

Isn't strange how everyone loves President Obama except Osama Bin Laden, Al Qeada, and the GOP? I wonder if there is a connection somewhere?

Osama Bin Laden, Al Qeada, and the GOP? I wonder if there is a connection somewhere?

There is a connection. They are all religious, fanatics, zealots, and love their guns. What they are not, is humane.

Yes, Unions can get Greedy, But they are not the Reason for our Current Economic Problems, just another handy Scapegoat for the Republicans.

A Handy Diversion Issue to take the Spotlight off of them and their Failures...

And, Yes, a lot of Democrats have been disappointing for sure!

If Gov. Walker thought that the power of public unions needed to be scaled back, why didn't he campaign on his details? He never gave the voters of Wisconsin an honest choice to decide, but thank goodness we have the recall process to correct this oversight.

What he has done is taken away most public employees ability to collectively bargain for their salary and benefits, and instead each employee will have to bargain on their own with their employer. That means more work for administrators, and eventually more cost to the public when they find out they will have to pay more to retain the best and the brightest. Right now costs are lower mostly due to more senior workers retiring, but eventually these younger workers will want more money and benefits.

There are two parties to every contract. If the union contract was so bad for the companies, why did they agree to them? I will tell you why. Because the companies were making more money than what it was costing them.

Unions have provided far more benefits to the average worker in this country than companies have. Companies in a capitalist system exist for one reason, to make as much money as is humanly possible. They will hire as few as people as they can. They will pay their employees as little as they possibly can get away with. They will pollute as much as they are allowed. They will charge as much as they can for their product. The Republican mantra that companies exist just to provide jobs is very dishonest.

You are exactly right, Pedro! If it wasn't for unions, and capitalism was left to prosper unfettered and unregulated by the government, we would have huge corporations hiring people, paying them a buck or two an hour, with no overtime wages, working in the most unsafe working environments imaginable, polluting our air, our water, our soil. There would be rampant collusion between companies, each promising the others not to raise pay or benefits to lure workers away.

We're heading that way again, if those who are like Scott Walker get into Congress, SCOTUS or worse, become President (like Mitt Romney)!!

Hi Devil's Advocate-784471. The fact that America did have those conditions 100+ years ago shows that it is possible to get there again. It probably will take several election cycles to regress back to this point, but it is disappointing to see people ignore history. Old age insurance (Social Security) wasn't really needed back then, since the majority of people basically worked until they died. I doubt most people would really want to go back to those "good old days".

You know why there aren't any more steel mills left in the US, which provided a few million jobs? Because a liberal decided that rebuilding Germany, France, Japan and even Russia in 1945 was more important than rebuilding out own infrastructure

Funny, I remember seeing fully operating steel mills in the Ohio Valley right up through the 80s.

I see a fully operational Union steel mill in that overly liberal place Seattle every day!

Read and learn, most of the money we owe, we owe to ourselves from the social security trust fund #2 and bonds #1.

Rick - Nope. They can't vote in Wisconsin.

ssmithlg: First, Walker's program has acutally raised the debt limit by dropping corporate taxes, the state has lost 27,000 more jobs in the last year. And, he did not say he was going after unions, or saying he was going to privatize one of the best public school systems in the country and he did not say he was going to limit local and county governments so they couldn't make up the tax revenue losses themselves. He also didn't say that he was going to refuse stimulus money and high speed rail money (that ended up going to Illinois and Florida helping out with jobs there) He didn't say he was going to be a total Right Wing tyrant slamming turning Wisconsin into the Lousiana of the North. Which is why people are so ticked off at him that they want him out now. Finally, he will be recalled. The PEOPLE of Wisconsin got together 980000 signature on the petition in 8 weeks. They weren't all from Madison, they weren't all from Milwaukee, they were from across the state. And, the polls taken now were taken during a GOP presidential race, and, without a clear democratic candidate. Once they have completed the Dem primary and have a candidate, and knowing that the Koch brothers are going to pump twice as much more money into the election, along with the rest of the GOP pumping their money into this, then lets see where the polls stand, and you will see a turnaround. Finally, a federal court overturned the union rulings for Walker. Basically, you can't take benefits from one service union, and let other keep them. Also, there's something about having your staff under indictment and having to raise a legal defense fund that doesn't seem that people are willing to keep this guy. So, Walker is going to be recalled, and he will be the third gov in US history to be thrown out in mid term.

I can't say that I know much about Wisconsin,But ,in my opinion, too many working people have risked injuries and even death to win the right to have unions to abandon that right. The ruling classes of all countries did not ,of course had to take those same risks.The employer class always recognised the importance of them having unions ,and professionals very early on knew and obtained their unions. Among the earliest were the Politicians who may have started their careers as men of the people ,but very early became members of the Oligarchy. I would be surprised if Wisconsin Is mainly inhabited by Princes , 1%ers.Employers,Doctors ,Politicians ,Judges and even if it was I strongly doubt if they would ever give up their rights to unionize. I will be shocked and dismayed if the recall of their Governor does not pass handily,

LMAO....we shall see, won't we? The silent "majority"....lol....please. You seem to forget that in this country, it's one person, one vote. That's why you are seeing all the Republican-led states racing to enact voter ID laws under the guise of trying to eliminate voter fraud! They know for a fact that enacting these laws will work to restrict the accessibility of getting this identification for the poor and infirmed. Those people vote overwhelmingly Democratic at the polls. Anyone with any sense knows that's the only reason for enacting such laws! Voter fraud does exist, yes, and it favors both sides equally, so it's a wash. So why put these laws into effect?

Because it's the only way the Republicans/TP'ers/1%ers can be sure that their candidates get elected!!

Tea parties are for little girls and their imaginary friends.

Charlie - and Mad Hatters. The TEA party has plenty of those.

900,000+ signatures on the recall petitions. It looks like Walker, the Koch bros. and the GOP are the ugly faces.

You could say the same for Romney and Santorum backing Scott Walker.

Wallace -didn't you see that ssmithlg's facts are campaign lies? Walker is a disaster in adding jobs and increasing Wisconsin's economy. The only people who benefited are the corporations who had their taxes cut and again did not add jobs. Wake Up!!!! Insanity is letting the same lies and terms like "job creators" fool you twice.

Walker promised 250,000 jobs, As of Jan. 2012, NET jobs gains during Walker's term as Gov. is approximately 6,000 jobs. Walker killed a green energy plan (a 100 turbine wind-farm) that would have generated $600,000 revenue. Walker rejected the speed rail plans to his State which would have been 90% federally funded. Walker's 'special session' legislations enacted ways of taking money from sources like; the rollback of car insurance mandates, rollback of protections for victims of drunk drivers to recoup losses, cutting vital protections to Wisconsin's public health programs, turning the Commerce Dept. into a limited accountability and oversight commitee. These are just a FEW of the things Walker has done to the demise of ALL of Wisconsin's people, and he is proclaimed a 'hero?'

And that's the point, DB17, that the right-wingers seem to overlook! We are all "America".....all citizens here are America. Business owners have a civic duty to hire Americans, at American wages and benefits, and it's all of our duties to take care of those who cannot take care of themselves. That's what civilized nations do!! When the righties think "it's not my problem to make my country a better place to live", that translates to "I'm going to use my translation of the Constitution to make as much profit from this country as I can get, and too bad if you can't do the same"!!

The conservatives tend to believe the falsehood that "your problems are NOT my problems".....but unless you live on your own island....alone....you are dead wrong about that. We are all in this together, the rich and the poor, regardless of what the cons believe. That said....you can either do what's best for America, or you can rape her for your own greed, it's your choice!