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DAVENPORT, Iowa -- The folksy, shirt-sleeved assault on Mitt Romney continues.
Vice President Joe Biden, who's serving a stint as the Obama administration's top campaigner, assailed the Republican candidate again Wednesday in his third campaign speech in two weeks, this time portraying Romney as a prolific outsourcer of American jobs who is pessimistic and "out of touch" with the manufacturing sector.
"America is coming back," a jacket-less Biden declared to about 450 guests at an eastern Iowa high-tech manufacturing facility Wednesday. "It's not a political slogan. It's a reality."
Despite making a tongue-in-cheek reference to Romney's "Etch-a-Sketch" flip-flops during a speech to Florida seniors last week, today Biden labeled the president's rival-in-waiting as "remarkably consistent" but "wrong" on job creation.
"Mitt Romney has been remarkably consistent -- as an individual investor, a businessman, as governor of Massachusetts, and now as a candidate for president," he said. "Remarkably consistent. And I respectfully suggest, consistently wrong."
The vice president specifically skewered Romney's record on tax cuts and business legislation, saying policies he supported as governor and during his tenure at Bain Capital encouraged American companies to push facilities and jobs offshore.
Biden did not mention Romney's personal wealth -- thrust back into the news cycle yesterday by new details of the lavish home that the former Massachusetts governor is building in California -- but he did ridicule the president's rival for calling Obama "out of touch" when encouraging young people to pursue manufacturing jobs.
"Out of touch? Romney?" he added incredulously. "As an old friend of mine says, that's chutzpah."
While Biden has previously made specific reference to all of the Republicans still fighting in the GOP race (other than Ron Paul), he mentioned only Romney and Rick Santorum by name Wednesday, leaving Newt Gingrich completely off the list. (The campaign also distributed a four-page research document to reporters focused solely on contrasting Obama and Romney's records on manufacturing issues.)
Despite reserving most of his fire for Romney, Biden also slammed Santorum, who hopes to be competitive in the upcoming Pennsylvania primary in the manufacturing-heavy state where both Santorum and Biden have roots.
"Sen. Santorum is the only one even claiming to support manufacturing," he said. "But he voted for loopholes to send American manufacturing offshore."
Appearing at PCT Engineered Systems, a Davenport company that makes electron beam systems and employs about 70 workers, Biden offered an optimistic picture of the American economy.
"I've never been more optimistic in my life for the prospects for America," he said.
Biden's visit came on both familiar and friendly territory for the campaign's top surrogate, who visited the state of Iowa some 30 times during his own run for president in 2007. Obama beat McCain in Davenport's Scott County by a 15 point margin in the general election.
The speech was his third in a series of four campaign events. Biden previously visited Ohio and Florida to tout the administration's achievements.
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This is a "Big xxxxxing deal" Joe! You should go back to Washington and spend the last few months of Obama's presidency helping him fix that ridiculous healthcare law.
If the Supreme Court doesn't strike it down is it still ridiculous?
Yes, Whether they strike it down or not it is ridiculous. I think the country is starting to see the wisdom in the near 100% "NO" vote for Obamacare from the Republicans....
This article is about outsourcing jobs, not the damned ACA. Add some substance to your comment regarding the current topic or continue reaching for something that's not there. Same thing over and over on this board.
OK.
So why did Obama focus on ACA instead of jobs?
When you are coming out of a recession, why would you create the greatest entitlement yet, the greatest stressor on businesses trying to recover?
Why create the costs, the uncertainties?
The typical recession lasts 16 months. We are going on almost 3 years after the recession ended and Obama's recovery is actually worse on Americans than the actual recession was .... food stamps recipients are 2.6 times greater, unemployment is worse and will not drop below 8% by next year according to Obama's own CBO, median income has dropped more than under Bush .... on and on and on ....
Do you have no clue, do you have no understanding the profound effect Obamacare has had on jobs ... jobs being moved overseas because that is just another growing uncertain cost that business has to deal with?
Dumb question, huh?
You're obviously oblivious.
Biden is a non issue ....
Hey Biden,
Why not go back to Washington and begin a hearing on why GE is outsourcing (moving) jobs from the US to China?
Why not explain why government outsources jobs?
Hey Joe, what will you do when your job is outsourced this next election?
Bob i'd have an adult conversation with you but when you compare our recession with the "typical" recession, I lean towards the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about. Please explain your point of typical; the housing market? Was that typical Bob?
Obama is trying to change our medical position in this country and all you can do is cry about it? I don't necessarily agree with his plan but at least it's something. I know far to many people without affordable health care insurance and this will at least allow them to be covered by something. You say, "well why don't they get off there lazy assess and get a JOB!." They have jobs, Bob. Their employers just don't offer any type of medical insurance. Until we have a better solution, something needs to be done about the ridiculousness of our so called superior health care that the rights seem so adamant to protect.
OMG BEST quote of the day - Arlen Specter says Romney changes positions more than a "pornographic movie star!" Definitely the BEST!!!!! And, totally on target!
Seeking, That was funny! Or he could have said Mitt Romney changes positions as many times as I change Political parties! :)~
Romney and his idiotic comments about Russia in his attempt to run against the president with "negative ads in the form of said idiotic comment" just shows time and again that he is clueless. Not just of foreign policy, but chain of command and inappropriate criticism especially at inappropriate times. Why? Because Romney has never worked for anyone. Romney has always been the Ruler. Romney does not know how to operate in any other way. He must be an absolute Ruler surrounded by "yes men."
College students study the Bay of Pigs versus Cuban Missile Crisis to learn the lesson Kennedy learned about being surrounded by "yes men" and what is called "group think." I say we are FAR better off with President Obama who has already proved himself very worthy via his advisers and careful thought before making a decision.
As for outsourcing, just chalk that up along with Romney's corporate raider destruction, lack of ethics, and non-stop lying in his campaign.
rotthemechanics
"At least its something..."
Seriously?
We have no water to put out the fire, lets use gasoline....its liquid, and 'at least its something.'
The bomb squad is stumped because the nuclear device has nothing but gray wires...better than doing nothing, they decide to play Eenie, Meenie, Minie, Moe and cut one because 'at least its something'.
While clearly tongue in cheek and extreme examples, I am trying to point out that doing something just for the sake of doing it is not necessarily a good idea. Sometimes, doing nothing, does less harm than doing something not adequately planned.
Insurance isn't the solution, Insurance is the cause of the problem. The problem is high medical costs which are caused because there are insurance companies that pay huge fees. If care providers had only the average person to deal with, they could not charge 3 and 4 times a persons annual salary for a procedure that takes 4 to 6 hours out of a day.
Solution- address the costs of the service, not how the service is paid for.
What a buffoon . The unions with which Biden sleeps are the most guilty for inflation. Davis Bacon is the biggest contributor. So why not outsource, you jerk.
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First Read is amazingly snark free when discussing the Vice President, even labelling him "folksy" .
FR plays it straight with Democrats, whilst Republicans get the snark and instant feedback about why their talking points are wrong.
"Romney's personal wealth -- thrust back into the news cycle yesterday by new details of the lavish home that the former Massachusetts governor is building in California...'
Yes, the "Axelrod-fed" news cycle is continuous..Politico was like Architectural Digest today...playing into the Obama hate the rich talking points, by telling us how big the Romney's basement will be at his vacation home...
Lacking snark, Bob. I am sure you have more than enough to go around. Let's hear it, pal. No one believes you anyway.
There is so much to go after Romney on. You just don't know where to start. Well I will start one for you Mr. VP. How about telling Mr. Romney, that you do not undermine the President of the United States when he is abroad representing the Country. Even John Boehner had to say something. That is just how Stupid the Republicans and their Candidates look on their Bigoted attacks on this President to give their crowd of Bigots their Red Meat for the day.
To show how Stupid Romney looked, even the Russian Premier asked does he know what Century and year he is in with the Russian / American Relationship?
Romney looked so Stupid with his Statement that he will even make the Republican Demi-God, Ronald Reagan look bad, since Republicans credit Reagan with ending the Cold War. So Reagan really did not END THE COLD WAR as Republicans like to give him Credit For, at least Romney does not think So.
The Republican Party have become such HYPOCRITES with their TOTAL DAMAGE they are trying to do the Office of the Presidency, because President Obama occupies it currently, that If Mr. Romney were to get into office, he would be a TOTAL Disaster, we will have George W. Bush II again.
Romney definitely will need another "Turd Blossom" like Rove to lead him by the Nose.
Republicans cannot blame Democrats like Fox News, Palin and the Other Candidates for the CONSPIRACY of their Candidates' tactics of PUTTING THEIR FEET INTO THEIR MOUTHS. Santorum does it also on Video, then tries to Curse the Reporters out for asking him about it.
Some Candidates the Republicans have this year for President, a Flip Flopper Extraordinaire, Potty Mouth Christian, and Despicable Me.
Here is an interesting non-MSNBC article worth reading:
By my estimation, even if he cracks, the liberal media will re-interpret and bury it.
When will Obama crack in public?By Mychal Massie
At atime when many Americans can barely afford Burger King and a movie, Obamaboasts of spending a billion dollars on his re-election campaign. Questioned at a recent appearance about the spiraling fuel costs, Obama said, "Get usedto it"; and with an insouciant grin and chortle, he told another person at the event, who complained about the effect high fuel prices were having on his family, to "get a more fuel-efficient car."
The Obamas behave as if they were sharecroppers living in a trailer and hit thePowerball, but instead of getting new tires for their trailer and a new pickuptruck, they moved to Washington. And instead of making possum pie, with goats and chickens in the front yard,they're spending and living large at taxpayer expense, opulent vacations, galaballs, resplendent dinners and exclusive command performances at the WhiteHouse, grand date nights, golf, basketball, more golf, exclusive resorts andstill more golf. In the 1950's they called it acting @!$%# RICH.
Expensive, ill-fitting and ill-chosen wigs and fashions hardly befit the firstlady of the United States. The Obamas have behaved in every way but presidential, which is why it's sooffensive when we hear Obama say, in order "to restore fiscalresponsibility, we all need to share in the sacrifice, but we don't have tosacrifice the America we believe in."
The American people have been sacrificing; it is he and his family who are behaving as if they've never had two nickels to rub together and now, having hit the mother lode, they're going to spend away their feelings of inadequacyat the taxpayers' expense.
Obama continues to exhibit behavior that, at best, can be described asmobocratic and, at worst, reveals a deeply damaged individual. In a February2010 column, I asked, "Is Obama unraveling? I wrote that it was beginning to appear the growing mistrust of him and contempt for his policies was beginning to have a destabilizing effect on him.
At that time, I wrote that not having things go one's way can be a bitter pill,but reasonable people don't behave as he was behaving. He had insulted Republicans at their luncheon, where he had been an invited guest. I had speculated that was, in part, what had led him to falsely accuse Supreme Court justices before Congress, the nation and the world, during the 2010 State ofthe Union address.
It appeared, at that time, as if he were "fraying around the emotionaledges." That behavior has not abated, it has become more pronounced. While addressing the nation, after being forced to explain the validity of his unilateral aggression with Libya,America witnessed a petulant individual scowling and scolding the public for daring to insist he explain his actions.
But during an afternoon speech to address the budget/debt, he took hisscornful, unstable despotic behavior to depths that should give the nationcause for concern. Displaying a dark psychopathy more representative of anepisode of "The Tudors" television series, he invited Rep. Paul Ryan,R-Wis., to sit in the front row during his speech and then proceeded to berateboth Ryan and Ryan's budget-cutting plan. Even liberal Democrats were put offby the act. MSNBC's Joe Scarborough questioned the sanity of Obama's actions.
Today, criticism is coming from all sides. A senior Democrat lawmaker said,"I have been very disappointed in [Obama], to the point where I'm embarrassed that I endorsed him. It's so bad that some of us are thinking, is there some way we can replace him? How do you get rid of this guy?"
("Democrats' Disgust with Obama," The Daily Beast, April 15, 2011)
Steve McCann wrote: Obama's speech "was chock full of lies, deceit and crass fear-mongering. It must be said that [he] is the most dishonest,deceitful and mendacious person in a position of power I have everwitnessed" ("The Mendacity of Barack Obama,"AmericanThinker.com, April 15, 2011).
McCann continued: "[His] performance was the culmination of four years of outright lies and narcissism that have been largely ignored by the media,including some in the conservative press and political class who are loath tocall [him] what he is in the bluntest of terms: a liar and a fraud. That herelies on his skin color to intimidate, either outright or by insinuation[against] those who oppose his radical agenda only add to his audacity. It isapparent that he has gotten away with his character flaws his entire life,aided and abetted by sycophants around him. ..."
With these being among the kinder rebukes being directed at Obama, and withpeople becoming less intimidated by his willingness to use race as a bludgeon,with falling poll numbers in every meaningful category and an increasinglyaggressive tea-party opposition, how much longer before he cracks completely?
The coming months of political life are not going to be pleasant for Obama Possessed by a self-perceived palatine mindset, that in his mind places himabove criticism, how long before he cracks in public? Can America risk aman with a documented track record of lying and misrepresenting truth as abasic way of life, who is becoming increasingly more contumelious?
Mychal Massie is chairman ofthe NationalLeadership Network of Black Conservatives-Project 21 a conservative black thinktank located in Washington, D.C. He was recognized as the 2008 Conservative Manof the Year by the Conservative Party of Suffolk County, N.Y. He is anationally recognized political activist, pundit and columnist. He has appearedon Fox News Channel, CNN, MSNBC, C-SPAN, NBC, Comcast Cable and talk radioprogramming nationwide. A former self-employed business owner of more than 30years,
Massie can be followed at mychal-massie.com.
Bob in Virginia - are you whining???
winemaker - why would anyone want to follow massie? Just another right wing hack!
Why not another view rather than hearing the constant "goodie Obama" views? Do you not sir/madame follow those left wing nut job hacks from the alphabet Obama pundits?
If it is a liberal commentator it's good - conservative bad. Right?
Now if ObamaCare fails, is it the result of those conservative justices of SCOTUS, or a law found unconstitutional?
"Vice President Joe Biden made yet another gaffe today when he mistakenly called Scott Community College President Dr. Theresa Paper, quote "Dr. Pepper". "
Never to be mentioned in Obama land of MSNBC...
Oh, stop the presses, VP Biden mispronounced a name. So what if he botched the pronunciation of a name, that's not a gaffe, people do that all the time. Meanwhile, Mitt Romney makes a couple gaffes a day and they have nothing to do with how to say a name. He made one the other day that even Russia President Medvedev found humorous and stupid at the same time; one that even Speaker Boehner criticized.
Jody,
MSNBC and First Read have headlined any and all real or imagined gaffes made by Republicans , no matter how minor , especially those of Palin or Bachman....
Bob in Virginia - like Palin and Bachmann ever made a MINOR gaffe. Everything that came out of their mouths was pure gaffe. You may not like Biden but even the GOP politicians in Washington have great respect for him. Your abject stupidity is showing - as usual!
That's just damned funny if you ask me...big fking deal bob? A gaffe, wow your trying.
Of course the
daily, Hourly gaffs of G.W. Bush were okay coming from a President but the Vice President of another party should happen to mispronounce a name (we all do at one time or another) and you want a big fat hairy deal made of it? Give us a break.My, my, my the left sure do like making excuses, but let someone from the right do so then it is bad, bad, bad. Seem to recall all the comments about romney and his "... poor" comment.
LOL, the FR left are so ridiculous.
Bob in Virgina, your wife doesn't smile much does she?
I'm sure she's smiling a little more now that they have enlisted their governor to probe her instead.
He doesn't care that the state probes his wife, but let Joe Biden mispronounce a name and all hell breaks loose. The priorities of the average teabagger...
Jobs, Health Care, that is an easy one for Republicans they have NO PLAN.
The Only plan they have is TAKE EVERYTHING from Working Class Americans add more Government to the PRIVATE DECISIONS regarding your Health and your Family.
Make Women Third World.
TURN the Country INTO a THEOCRACY
CUT Everything else THAT HELPS Ordinary American Families.
GIVE EVEN MORE TAX BREAKS TO THE RICH as they do less and less for the Country.
In late 2008, hedge fund Jana Partners bought into Convergys. First order of business was to sell off the HR Division. Next they outsourced thousands of jobs to the Philippines, India, and South America. Last week they sold the Information Management Business Division to Japan-based electronics company NEC. Analysts speculate that the last remaining Division, Customer Management, is now in play and that management has hired investment bank JP Morgan to facilitate a sale.
This is what all too often happens when hedge funds and venture capitalist take over a company.
TOG,
Piranhas, mayhap?
Huh? Like Blackstone owning Hilton? About a million other examples of private equity or hedge funds owning US and foreign businesses. Do you even understand the concept of outsourcing? Lets use every progressive's favorite company general motors, if a function that can be done cheaper overseas and makes GM more competitive, you dont think they should? So when, Toyota can sell their cars cheaper and more productively and puts GM out of business, you dont think more jobs are lost. You also ignore that private equity funds, hedge funds are owned and invested in by union pension funds who are making money as a result for middle class americans. Before you speak on complex issues learn the unintended or intended consequences.
VP Biden is right. Not only did Romney outsource jobs, his firm bankrupted previously profitable companies by buying them and borrowing against their good credit to buy the next profitable firm and do the same things, by failing to invest in R&D at these firms, by sucking the life out of healthy businessness not to mention what Bain did to the pension plans and then stuck the taxpayer with the bill to make up for the money Romney and his greedy friends hauled out of these businesses. In Romney's eyes, "greed, for lack of a better word, is good".
But it's OK with you for a small investor or a beginner investor to flip a small businesses or homes or even cars to make a bit of a profit ....
Funny how any topic can come up out here and everyone is an expert on it ....
Romney did nothing illegal ....
Stores still have many goods from over seas ....
How blind we can be , when we want to be ....
Glad you finally admitted your weakness Ben.
Go Joe! If Romney was to get elected, the office of the President will lose all credence to other countries! Hell, America will lose all credence to other countries! We will be the laughing stock of the world! There will be no more jobs here in America, Romney will send them all overseas, even McDonalds. Nothing of the infrastructure will ever get fixed, but thats ok, no one will be able to afford a car but the rich. I could go on, and on, and on, but i wont, you get the picture! The only sane choice, OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!! And a straight up Democratic government!
if Mitt wins at least we'll be able to stay warm next winter because we'll have coal to fire our power plants & we can drill for oil so we'll fuel for our cars & trucks ....now the epa is passing regulations to shutdown coal fired plants & we all know about the keystone pipeline after three years of study's & they still won't issue permits to start it & it won't cost the govt. a penny it's all private money & it will create at least 20,000 jobs ,,,much better than the shovel ready jobs obozo had.......hopefully we can get back some of the respect from our allies that obozo has lost in the last three years..I bet Mitt doesn't bow to every leader he meets..about sending jobs overseas....who signed NAFTA..Clinton....if you want an entitlement govt. & to pay more taxes to those who won't work then yea vote straight up democratic..
I was thinking we would all be warm because if Romney gets elected we are all going to be living in republican he!!.
Freedom to republicans is the freedom to stalk and kill innocent unarmed children in the name of gun rights.
Freedom to republicans is the freedom of the state government to mandate unnecessary medical procedures and make the women pay for them.
Freedom to republicans is the freedom of the government to control a woman's reproductive system and deny her birth control.
Freedom to republicans is the freedom of the old and poor to die without food.
Freedom to republicans is the freedom of the old and poor to die without health care.
Freedom to republicans is the freedom to pollute our water supply so the rich can get richer.
Freedom to republicans is to raise the taxes of the poor to pay for more tax cuts for Romney and his rich friends.
Freedom to republicans is the freedom for the old to die without social security.
Freedom to republicans is the freedom to kill people in wars all over the world and call themselves the right to life party.
Freedom to republicans is the freedom to demand all eggs be born and then the republicans retain the freedom to deny education to those same babies.
VOTE FOR TRUE WOMEN'S FREEDOM.....VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
Rot,
To MSNBC this article might be about claiming a Republican was outsourcing jobs. But, It will be harder for the liberal media to keep the blaring spot light of poor leadership off of Obama/Biden in 2012 once the "Big xxxxing Deal" gets thrown out of court......
So...uaw...when the people with pre-existing conditions are cut from their insurance, you will be dancing on their graves. We all understand your disgust for human life.
Interesting plan, teabaggers..."They're going to die anyway, why should I pay for it?" I'll be interested to see you try and sell THAT one.
Shocked, If you liberals want everyone covered for every thing. Elect a better leader who can work with everyone involved.
And the liberals do want to censor people who disagree with them, while arguing the need for the First Amendment.
Happens on Newsvine daily.
So does the righties that censor liberal post everyday right here on Newsvine daily.
Just more of the republican crap, don't do as we do, do what we say is correct.
VOTE FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS.....VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
So, uaw...what's your plan? Are you actually trying to imply that the Republican party has tried to work with anyone BUT the Republican party? A couple of quotes from the head of your klan Mitch "Simon Legree" McConnell will prove you pathetically false.
Jody, can you give me a good example of a healthy company that Bain robbed on behalf of their union pension investors of course and previously profitable companies they drove into bankruptcy? So you think Bain investing pension money to buy companies intentionally outsourced and bankrupted them losing all of their investors money and lender's money on purpose so they could pull out some fees? You really think investors would ever invest or lend to them again if they did? Its ok to like Obama better but your version of how private equity works is just ludicrous.
I love the fact that the front runner for the GOP has his money in offshore accounts. Says all there is to say about what he thinks of our country. Yet he thinks we should choose him to lead us? Not a chance in hell!
SeekingSanity: If you haven't heard, Romney is still paying the required taxes on these investments. Make no mistake about it, he loves this country. I will definitely choose him to lead this country to a better economy and a better America. But the big question is, does President Obama truly love this country? I voted for him the last time because of this "Change" he promised. It never happened, and our country doesn't look so strong anymore and I fear another 4 years will make us look even weaker.
GranCanyon - no he ISN'T paying taxes on these investments - thus the reason for putting them offshore. He only wants to be President to outdo his father who would be mortified to see the joke his son has become.
Your question "does President Obama truly love this country" shows you totally lied about voting for him last election. Anyone who has kept their eyes open since he was elected knows the GOP fought to keep him from accomplishing anything - to hell with our country. Our country is looking stronger every day and any sane person can see that.
Seeking Sanity--he is paying taxes on his offshore money. You really think that putting money with HSBC in Hong Kong or Credit Suise or Deutche Bank in an account in a foreign country lowers your tax. Individual US taxpayers pay tax on their worldwide income. Why not do some research before parroting the talking points from Fiesty the democratic machine. Money is invested offshore for so many reasons many of them legal that this is such a non issue its almost laughable.
Interesting, Kirk, that you should leave out the Cayman Islands...But, of course, we all know that people sock their money away in the Caymans because they really do, deep inside, want to pay taxes on it.
Don't forget...it was one of your cream of the crop running for president, the always honest Newt Gingrich, that brought this issue to light.
A few weeks ago, it was a "healthy vetting process" and now it's a laughable non issue.
Since you are so adept at research, Kirk...tell us. How much tax did Romney pay on his overseas accounts?
Shocked, it doesn't matter if it's the caymans as that is just notorious because criminals with illegal profits are known to use the caymans but it's also because the caymans have low foreign taxes on earnings. But criminals also use panama, hong kong and similar countries. For example, if Romney invested in Germany, he would pay tax on his interest income if it was invested in interest bearing accounts at the us tax rate and the high German rate while offsetting some of this tax with a foreign tax credit. Lots of individuals use caymans, the islands near great Britain that have very low forign tax rates not because there is any illegal activity. In addition, money in offshore accounts are not subject to us litigation so shelters the assets from frivolous litigation. This is the equivalent to the Obama birthed issue, dumb.
So...How much did Romney pay last year on his overseas accounts?
Oh yeah...the Cayman Islands are actually in the Caribbean...I think you have mistaken them for the Canary Islands...which are nowhere near Great Britain. They are in the Atlantic southwest of Spain. Are there some other magical islands off the coast of England where rich Americans stash their money for humanitarian purposes?
Well...I waited. I'm leaving for the day. You will have to pardon me, Kirk, if I find your information suspect. I can't imagine that you know much of what goes on in the Caymans if you have no idea where on the planet the Caymans are.
If you wish to blow smoke up someone's bum, I would recommend Bob from Virginia. I'm sure his wife is exhausted.
Shock--first off I would have to look at his tax return which I dont have. Second, I am a former tax attorney CPA and continue to work with high net worth individuals who have money in the Caymans, Isle of Jersey, Jamaica along with Hong Kong and Switzerland. Not a single person is avoiding or escaping US tax. Its illegal and if Romney avoided tax while having money in offshore accounts, trust me the MSNBC media would have already found out and he would be indicted. Not only do I know where the Caymans are, I have been there. Sorry that the actual facts dont line up with your partisan political views but the level of intellectual discourse on here amazes me and it always strikes me odd when the Obama supporters think they are in the intellectual elite with comments like yours.
"Lots of individuals use caymans, the islands near great Britain..."
"Not only do I know where the Caymans are, I have been there."
Kirk - that must have been one helluva flight. Where was your departure point? La-la land? There's nothing partisan about questioning the integrity of someone's post. You can try to convince us that people stash their money in the Caymans (those fascinating islands off the coast of England where honest Republicans go to hide - Didn't Tom Delay play golf there on the tax-payers dime?) because they want to pay their fair share in taxes, but I think you are full of it. You say my facts do not line up and, other than the snarky comment I made about Bob's wife, I fail to see what facts do not line up. The Caymans are in the Caribbean (just a hop skip and jump from Great Britain, you know) and you do not know what you are talking about. Pretty straight forward and supported by your own comments.
"I would have to look at his tax return which I don't have."
"Seeking Sanity - he is paying taxes on his offshore money"
So - you state as fact that Mittsy is paying taxes on his offshore money, even though you admit that you have never seen his tax return. Interesting, Kirk. I wonder where you get your information.
Shocked--can you put some coherent statements together? So you really believe that Romney put money in offshore accounts to illegally evade US income tax? I guarantee that Buffett and Soros both have money their also so are they illegally evading US income tax or because they support Obama they must be doing it correctly. I suppose its impossible for me to know 100% that Romney is doing something illegal and its a big presumption of me to assume that he is not a criminal. I am not sure how far the Caymans are from the Isle of Jersey as I mentioned them as favorable countries from a foreign tax and disclosure perspective not from geographical closeness perspective. Why is it so hard for you to believe that I am right and know what I am talking about just because you want to vote for Obama. Thats your choice and you can vote for him because you like him for whatever reason but the need to make stuff up about Romney is odd. My departure point by the way was Chicago.
Not to take away from the Vice President, Santorum said it best Romney is simply the worst ( although he is also the only) choice to make.
Unions and Democrats will ruin this country.