Santorum tells reporters: Romney is spinning you

He's right.

"do some reporting instead of just reporting what Gov. Romney feeds you."

These days too many in the media are either shameless shills and propaganda machines who care nothing for the truth, or mindless drones who only report the 'opinions' of those who are shameless shills and cogs propaganda machines that care nothing for the truth.

Egads, I'm actually agreeing with Rick Santorum on something.

do some reporting instead of just reporting what Gov. Romney feeds you

The best thing about having these clowns over there fighting with each other, is that they are giving the President A LOT of ammunition!

I can't wait to see the sorry GOP nominee against President Obama

Pressed about the comment on Friday, Santorum said, “I didn’t say that..."

ummm, yes Rick- you did! And you cannot un-ring the bell. It's time to get out- and save what dignity you have left.

I guess you don't think anyone else can do better than (President Obama)...

Nobody who's running on the GOP side, that's for sure.

you are probably right considering the conditions he's created in this country

You're in denial. Eight million Americans lost their jobs during the Great Recession. There's no way you can pin the blame on President Obama, because he wasn't in power at the time, the Republicans caused it. Over the last two years under Obama, over 3 million American jobs have been created.

Under the last Republican presidency, the American stock market lost over half it's value. Since Obama took office, the stock market has nearly doubled.

Under the last Republican president, American financial institutions were cratering left and right. Since Obama took office, American banks have returned to solvency and profitability.

Under the last Republican administration, the American automobile industry teetered on the brink of extinction. Since Obama took office, American automobile manufacturers have posted record profits and restored market share.

Under the last Republican administration, Osama bin Laden killed 3,000 Americans on American soil. Under Obama, Osama bin Laden has been gunned down, and his body lies at the bottom of the Arabian Sea.

Under the last Republican Administration, a federal budget surplus was deliberately turned into a deficit that we are now paying debrt service on, the national debt more than doubled, and trillion dollar deficits were made into a legacy that Republican politicians refuse to address. Thirty percent of my tax dollars go to pay interest on the national debt, while an average of over one million dollars in handouts has been given to every wealthy family in America.

Without the lunatic Republicans, we could have paid off the entire national debt by now, just by leaving the surpluses in place. THEN we'd have the ABILITY to reduct taxes without borrowing the money from Communist China.

Damn that liberal media, right Ricky?!

Sure Amy... let's just re-elect him now and forego everyone's choice in the matter... is that what you are saying? I guess you don't think anyone else can do better than him... and you are probably right considering the conditions he's created in this country.

Jeez, Brian, stop whining and chill out. I think Amy was just joking around. Perhaps you should look into something pharmaceutical - you sound kind of paranoid.

Let's just re-elect Barack Obama.

I guess it's better to shoot yourself in the foot then it is to shoot yourself in the head...

Santorum is right, about a "clear choice".

It's clear, that if Santorum is the GOP candidate, most sane people will vote for Obama.

At least Romney is moderate, and not a extremist right wing bible thumper(even if he is Mormon).

Middle America(the majority of Americans fall closer to the center, than either wing), doesn't want an extremist for POTUS.

Obama is the "clear choice".

Those remarks at the shooting range demostrate why I am a Conservative BUT I WILL NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN!

To talk about shooting the President just because he has a different political view, and to spew such hate, shows what the Republican party has become.

The Republican Party of today lacks morials, ethics, and is 100% controlled by Corporations and the super rich.

There is nothing to vote for, no one fit is running for president.

Sure Amy... let's just re-elect him now and forego everyone's choice in the matter... is that what you are saying?

The electoral college does this every election. Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000, but he didn't end up with the presidency because it doesn't matter who votes for who. The entire prospect of a presidential race is a sham and waste of time / money, with the only result being folks like yourself on useless crusades that cause nothing but friction and misinformation spreading to the general public.

The entire situation is counter-productive, especially when these guys are tearing each other down so far that none are left with any credibility. When they're done, everyone will drag their feet and cry while going straight back to Obama instead of letting one of these failures take office, which sadly is the only rational thing to do. The only result is spending millions upon millions of dollars in campaign funds, while they're all trash-talking and tearing each other down. If they really cared they'd take the millions they're spending over this pointless campaign and throw it to the deficit.

Obama has done many great things especially with what he was given to work with. How can you expect him to get anything done when the majority of congress from day one swore they would vote down anything he tried to put through without looking at it? I just think it's hilarious that now after three years of the media demonizing him and blaming events that he had no possible way to have any part of, these douchebags are whining about how the media has power. They didn't seem to mind when it was pointed the other direction...

Love him or hate him, after everything we've seen, and everything we've been told regardless of whether we believe it or not, would you really take one of these three over him? That right there is insanity :(

The stimulus was his only idea... and it was a monumental failure.

Not true. As usual, you have no idea what you're talking about, BrianB. I had experience with stimulus funds, and know a number of people who did, too. It saved a number of businesses from going under and kept a lot of people working.

Brianb-999431

Sure Amy... let's just re-elect him now and forego everyone's choice in the matter... is that what you are saying? If you feel the number one master blamer is doing such a good job... I'd like to have some of those drugs you are taking

BB you don't need any drugs; you are already way out!!

BB you don't need any drugs

Well, actually he does, Bev. He needs one to get his anger under control, another to rid himself of self-pity, one to elevate his self-esteem, another . . .

Unfortunately, no one has invented a "smarts" pill yet.

Middle America(the majority of Americans fall closer to the center, than either wing), doesn't want an extremist for POTUS. Obama is the "clear choice".

Dude, if the Democrats wanted a moderate they should have elected Clinton. Now they've ceded the center to the Republicans.

I am an independent and I think that the Republicans are far from the center. The TEA party has hijacked the Republicans and polarized their political goals. I don't think very many center oriented voters will vote Republican this coming Presidential election.

Satanick- Both parties have been hijacked by the extremists. My point is that Obama is not a centrist and by electing him, Democrats have allowed the Republicans to run their version of a moderate candidate, Romney. Like him or not, he is closer to the middle than Obama. BTW, I am also an independent voter.

Gee Jack, I guess you know more than Obama himself. He admitted that there were no shovel ready jobs while laughing about it. Since I don't know what I am talking about, when the stimulus money is completely gone, what did we buy for all that debt money? A little time? What is going to happen Jack? Another stimulus to keep the civil service jobs alive? If it was so helpful, why are city departments all over this country furloughing employees like firemen, policemen, office workers, etc... Since you are such an advocate for all that spending, how about you pay everyone's share to help pay down the national debt? Put your money where your mouth is.

Bitterhawk:

You didn't make a "point".

It's your opinion that Obama isn't a centrist, but his actions say something different.

Obama may have been to the left at the beginning of his term, but the reality of what the job entails probably made him adjust his stances/thinking on many things.

That is a good thing, as we need leaders that aren't afraid to reconsider their stances on certain things(for the good of most).

I've seen/heard many Dems(or those claiming to be) who don't think Obama governs enough to the left.

His own party has criticized him for giving in to the demands of the GOP, on more than one occasion.

Obama now has experience being POTUS, which is more than can be said for the BS artists(fear mongers) vying for the GOP ticket.

Obama may have been to the left at the beginning of his term, but the reality of what the job entails probably made him adjust his stances/thinking on many things

Lobo- Any perception you may have of Obama changing his policies after the beginning of his term is probably due to the Republicans taking the house in 2010. At this point he had no choice but to abandon at least part of his intended agenda. Also, all politicians move to the middle as an election approaches. I wouldn't mistake this for "adjusting their stances or thinking", instead, they are simply trying to appeal to independent voters like Satanick and myself to win the election . The difference here is that Obama is making a single move from the left where he has been governing while Romney will actually be returning to the middle after moving right to appeal to the Republican base. This is why the whole etch a sketch thing has been in the news lately.

For what it's worth, I haven't decided who I'm voting for yet. I am a fiscal conservative, but idealistically I probably lean a little to the left. Unfortunately, this puts me in a position where I feel I need to choose which of my values are currently the most important to me.

I will most likely vote for Obama. He has shown that he can compromise, a trait the Republicans seem to be lacking lately.

I'm leaning towards Romney, but with more than seven months until the election, a lot could happen to change my mind.

"It's a very terrible and horrible remark, and I'm glad I didn't hear it,"

But you managed to hear JFK's remark that made you "nearly throw up" when you were less than 5 years old. (JFK died in '63, Santorum was born in '58)

BrianB,

how about you pay everyone's share to help pay down the national debt? Put your money where your mouth is.

This is the kind of remark people make when they're desperate and don't have anything else to say.

I hope Santorum sticks around until the bitter end and keeps the heat on Romney. Those who support Santorum will find it very difficult to go the the polls in November and vote for Romney. Santorum is doing an excellent job exposing Romney as a phony and a flip-flopper, which carries much more weight coming from the mouth of one of his own party than it ever could coming from the Democrats.

Santorum's attacks on Romney have a useful role to play in helping President Obama win re-election.

Thanks for something, finally, Ricky!

Who's on a crusade Happyface? It seems the liberals are on one. They completely omit any negative Obama does and think nobody else is paying attention. The only ones you are fooling are yourselves.

Right, because it's so unusual for people to show their support by looking at the positive? The man came into office during a war that was based on lies from a guy with close ties to oil tycoons, with wallstreet raping the market as they saw fit, banks destroying and losing peoples savings at the same time they were designing loans to fail. Companies were being paid money to send jobs away from the US, the treasury was giving our money to banks and loaning it back to us at increased interest, all the while these upper class douchenozzles were getting extreme tax breaks to the point when we even discussed taking them away that they threatened to stop creating jobs which along with the Wallstreet pricks is farther than borderline treason that they'll never be charged for.

That sir, is a big pile of @!$%#, and it doesn't matter who you are -- if the majority of people with a say in law and policy are going to stand in your way, there's not a damned thing you can do about it. Everyone seems to think Obama is responsible for everything while doing nothing... the facts don't line up -- it doesn't work that way.

Oh, and here's an excerpt from yesterday off of this article alone :

Gee Jack, I guess you know more than Obama himself. He admitted that there were no shovel ready jobs while laughing about it.

getyourhead - You must really pay attention to soundbites. Unfortunately I don't have time to listen to them. I am quite impressed that you are up on all of them though. Do you listen in at work... maybe watch Fox news at night but tell nobody that you do....

phancy - It shouldn't surprise you. Jeb is from an establishment republican family. The establishment republicans want to place Romney as nominee. No other candidate has a chance because the establishment rules in the republican party. My candidate of choice has always been Newt.

Who's on a crusade Happyface? It seems the liberals are on one. They completely omit any negative Obama does and think nobody else is paying attention. The only ones you are fooling are yourselves.

commonsense - stop making excuses for Obama. He has enough of his own. You are stuck on something really obtuse. You and many liberals are continually blind to the fact that Obama is the president... he's the one that shapes the course this country takes.

Better be careful what you wish for Irespond. You can't wait to see it, but the results are far from guaranteed. I realize you view this election from a pro-Obama stance, but what you need to do is turn around and view all those people that won't vote for him. Perspective is everything.

If what you say makes the voting all that much easier, how do you account for what Captain Kickass says? Wait, I forgot, Obama NEVER makes a mistake he doesn't account to someone else.

You'll never guess who's postings those are. You've got some balls to talk about perspective when you're sitting here trying to label people and push your agenda. I'm not a liberal, I'm not a conservative, I'm not a Democrat, and I'm sure as hell not one of you. Viewing things in black and white may be easier, but that's the path to the highest level of ignorance.

Every person is an island, we all have our unique views. Those kind of BS labels do nothing but divide which in itself is uselessly counter productive and leads to nothing but these kind of discussions. If you spent even half the time you spend on here trying to convert net-dwellers doing something constructive you could probably make an actual impact. Maybe that way so many of your comments wouldn't get voted down to the point they're hidden by default.

Brianb-999431 Comment collapsed by the community

Under the last administration we had a little event called 911... a housing meltdown and very low unemployment. Two can play this game

Not very good at it, are you? Success or failure is usually defined as relevant from where you started. Your last administration started from a balanced budget and a cruising economy. Yes, 911 happened "to him", but the rest of your statement makes no sense at all. Bush DROVE us to 1) a housing meltdown, 2) a Wall Street meltdown, 3) an economic meltdown, 4) high unemployment, 5) $500 Billion in less tax revenue per year, 6) $500 Billion in deficit spending per year, 7) the collapse of the world economy, 8) Two wars (one unnecessary) in shambles, 9) and a totally dysfunctional government from too much "starve the beast" style department funding.

Reminder: He STARTED with a balanced budget, peace, and an economy on cruise-control.

Okay, now, you see all that stuff, above? THAT's what Obama started with. Under Obama, we 1) kept our economy from total collapse, 2) are in full and steady economic recovery, 3) have reduced unemployment 4) have exited the war in Iraq, 5) are exiting the the war in Afghanistan, 3) have managed NOT to start a new war, 4) have recovered our auto industry beyond our wildest dreams, 5) have largely recovered on Wall Street, 6) have health care legislation aimed at both insuring more Americans and reducing health care costs, 7) have much more respect world-wide, and 8) have otherwise improved our lot in life.

And, yes, you can spin both lists as much as you like, but they are what they are. Take away the false drama on social issues, the leveraging of latent fears (he's different from us), the 24/7 all media attack on this administration to "make him fail", and the Republicans have nothing left.

Tell me ONE positive accomplishment coming from a Republican any time recently. Your move.

LMarcT - one at a time:

Okay, now, you see all that stuff, above? THAT's what Obama started with. Under Obama, we 1) kept our economy from total collapse, How noble of him. Are we out of danger? How about that $16 Trillion debt? How can we even consider ourselves out of danger when the deficits are in the trillions each year? Do you consider him really taking charge of the government's business while wracking up so much debt? 2) are in full and steady economic recovery, No we aren't. What you see is an illusion. The job market has fallen. Think DEBT! It will destroy us. 3) have reduced unemployment Again an illusion. Unemployment has not fallen. Real numbers place the rate at somewhere near 23%. Can't help you if you don't look at the entire picture. 4) have exited the war in Iraq, Wow! Obama followed Bush's timeline. Do you really think Obama did something here? 5) are exiting the the war in Afghanistan, No we are not. Watch and see. 3) have managed NOT to start a new war, Huh? Oh, that's right... Liberals don't view us pounding the hell out of Libya a war. Liberals also aren't really paying attention to what's brewing in Africa. 4) have recovered our auto industry beyond our wildest dreams, At what cost to the US taxpayers? I suppose you feel government intervention into to private business is a good thing. You are missing a whole concept here. How come Chrysler is still in Bankruptcy? Didn't they receive a whole basket full of US Taxpayers dollars?5) have largely recovered on Wall Street, Give it some time. Wall Street is inflated and it will crash again. When it happens, you can stand there scratching your head as to why. 6) have health care legislation aimed at both insuring more Americans and reducing health care costs, And government intrusion into our lives like we've never experienced before. But all that might come crashing down after the Supreme Court decides. Maybe you feel the ACA was completely above board... I'm willing to put good money on the fact that you don't know anything about the provisions in the act... have you read the entire 2000 pages? I think not. 7) have much more respect world-wide, You got to be joking me. We are a laughingstock. We appear weak, the dollar is falling on world markets and you take a trip overseas and boast that you are from the U.S. and 8) have otherwise improved our lot in life. Oh yeah? Tell that to all the unemployed in this country. Let them know that they have improved their lot in life. Tell that to all the working employees that haven't received a raise in over 4 years their lot is improved while paying much more in the grocery store and at the gas pump.

You are under a spell LMarcT. The things you believe are all jello.

Excellent rebuttal, Happyface.

There is just no reasoning with some people, I'm afraid.

Brianb must have accidentally poured some cement into his ear and his head is clogged with it. The rest of us do appreciate your points though, so don't stop commenting.

Brianb-999431

Who's on a crusade Happyface? It seems the liberals are on one. They completely omit any negative Obama does and think nobody else is paying attention. The only ones you are fooling are yourselves.

no one here claims that Obama walks on water. I will be the first one to admit that there is plenty I am disappointed about when it comes to President Obama. But at the same time, I have to admit that given the $hit for a deal he was given, and the fact that it's only been 3 years, we are going in the right direction.

Brianb, I ask this question all the time but people like you do not seem to want to answer:

President Bush inherited a country with low unemployment, low debt, balanced budget, smaller government, smaller military, no wars, and took 8 years to almost bring this country to its knees. Why do you set YOUR bar so much higher for Obama who inherited a financial meltdown (that also affected the rest of the world which re-affected as it returned), 2 unpaid wars, bigger military, bigger government, bigger debt, bigger deficit, doubled the unemployment, and had so far only 3 years in office???

You are above honorable Kaybee. Attack me because my viewpoint isn't the same as yours. You do justice to the liberal cause. I hope you feel much better now.

Brianb-999431

Let me ask you a question Bayllie... When Obama was running for president, do you believe he was blind to what was happening to the economy?

First, he was not blind but he also knew as much as the Bush Administration ALLOWED anyone of us to see. Are you really this naive where you think we know the extent of what was going on - even today???? You really think that he Bush administration exposed all their cards to the general public???? 1) they wouldn't be thins stupid, and 2) if they were this stupid, such "small" thing as the national security would probabaly stopped them.

So no, he was not blind but only as informed at the previous administration would allow ANYONE to be.

Second, what does that even have anything to do with what I asked you??? My question was not wherether Obama knew what he was getting himself into. My question was why is you bar this high for Obama when it was really low for Bush epsecially since the two administrations inherited two different situations - two opposite situations.

The government machine hasn't stopped spending money to the tune of Billions a day

Again, Bush went on the borrowing spree when he DID NOT HAVE TO. If Clinton could paid down some of the debt, why did Bush start borrowing from China and other countries at the rate he did. Oh, yes. In order to pay for his Bush tax cuts, he had to find cash somewhere. And the fact that he was going to stick the next administration with the bill, did not matter to him, neither does it matter to you. According to you, it's Obama's loan + interest. Hate to break this to you, but ALL the bills that the Bush administration racked up got passed to Obama.

Clinton had the fortune of cleaning up after Bush1. Since we were in a recession (not as severe as this one), Clinton, without a SINGLE Republican vote passed the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 aka Deficit Reduction Act of 1993 which raised taxes on the top 1.2%. Clinton was able to raise additional revenue, which helped balance the budget and by the end of the 1990s began to reduce privately held public debt.

Now Clinton was able to do this without a single Republican because he did not hafe the Tea Party fruits signing pledges to 1 person (the emperor of the Republican party?) not to raise taxes. Clinton also did not inherit 2 unpaid wars that racked up $4 trillion in expenses. Clinton also did not have such an extreme Republican party that was willing tosacrifice the 9/11 First Responders and the Unemployed in order to get their way.

So Brianb, the Democrats can do it but they still need a somewhat sane opposition to and not the terrorist party currently present. What they are facing today is a party that has ONE goal, and one goal only: take Obama down; and they do not care who is taken down with him which appears to be 98% of the population of the United States of America.

Bayllie said: First, he was not blind but he also knew as much as the Bush Administration ALLOWED anyone of us to see. Are you really this naive where you think we know the extent of what was going on - even today???? You really think that he Bush administration exposed all their cards to the general public????

Did I say anything about what the administration was doing? I said we knew the condition of the economy because it was in the news everyday. If we knew it, he knew it. I could give a rats ass about what the administration knew, or was holding from the public, which is a common occurance anyway. You can argue all day long that Obama went into the office blind. In one sense I would agree with you. He had zero experience with any sort of job like this, EVER! So for as much as you want to place blame on everyone BUT Obama, maybe you should wake the Fuc* up to his lack of experience. How about you attempting some brain surgery? Do you think you would be successful?

You are completely obtuse. Democrats haven't helped this country one bit. They have been attempting to socialize us, redistribute wealth and have added useless programs to the government for YEARS! Why do you think we have a deficit of $1.2 Trillion? Does this mean I support republicans? If you think so, you have another thing coming. I have just as many problems with the way they govern. The entire system is malfunctioning... and we will pay the ultimate price unless we get some sane leadership.... I don't see that happening very soon, but I know the direction we are headed now and I see this country folding under socialistic leadership. We can kiss our freedom goodbye.

Keep on making excuses for Captain Kickass... Support him to your hearts content but when the system has a catastrophic failure and our freedom is gone, we are broke and riots break out in the streets you can always blame republicans. I on the other hand will blame both parties because it's both their faults.

Did I say anything about what the administration was doing? I said we knew the condition of the economy because it was in the news everyday. If we knew it,

brianb, NO, we did not nor do we know what really was going on even today. Just like you will never know what really happen before/during/and after 9/11, or any other major event in the history of this country. And to even suggest that you or anyone else does is extremely naive.

You can argue all day long that Obama went into the office blind.

Obama like any other presidential candidate on either side did not know what you suggest they did for one reason: they were not president-elects, just regular people running fo the office. So I will not claim that Obama was running for the office totally blind but I will also not suggest what you are implying: that he was allowed to know everything.

Regardless, the discussion is about what Obama has accomplished AS THE PRESIDENT regardless of the Party of No.

Keep on making excuses for Captain Kickass...

I am not making excuses for Obama and neither do I think he is Captain Kickass. He disappointed me in some areas and he surpised me in some other ones. But I also realize that there are over 300 million people with different wants and needs in this country so I don't expect ANY president to make me happy 100% of the time. You on the other hand are not even willing to give any credit to anything. It's all bad all the time, and everything is all Obama's fault regardless who is really responsible for the outcome.

Brianb,

You are the one hooked on Obama and can''t see him for what he is.

On the contrary. Many, many people on the Left have issues with President Obama, and I'm one of them. But I will take him over any of the clowns on the Right.

As for the stimulus money, in the past week alone I've talked with business owners who said that today their doors would be closed and their employees collecting unemployment were it not for those funds. They were a stop-gap measure that allowed the economy to recover--which it is in the process of doing, whether you want to admit it or not--and without them the recession would have been much, much worse.

My problem with you is that you're a pathetic whiner who's filled with self-pity (maybe even self-loathing).

brianb, one more thing:

our freedom is gone,

Some of us never had freedoms. And Republicans are from freedoms as long as you are not a woman, a Gay, or a non-Christian.

The Republicans are for freedom of religion (as long as it's Christian religion) but nor freedom FROM religion.

Brianb, what freedoms of yours are being threatened by the Democrats?

I can't personally blame Bush for most of the things that went on during his WH days.

Bush was malleable, and as close to being a puppet as one can get(with his supposed IQ level).

Bush's(Jr) history of failed leadership BEFORE he became POTUS, should have been a warning sign of how he was going to "lead".

Jr was definitely not his father(Sr.), when it came to using actual leadership skills.

I'd probably get along well with Bush Jr. on a personal level(as a neighbor?).

However, that doesn't mean I'd hire him to run even a corner liquor store(especially knowing his past resume).

About the article... Romney is not "spinning." Gingrich spins, and does a much better job at it. Romney lies. And many in the media are actually using the term "lie" now, because there is no other word for it. It has became so rampant and so extreme that Etch-A-Sketch is a kind analogy.

A request for FR -- Would it be possible to limit how many times in a row a person can post? There's a troll who goes by Brianb (and/or Kirk) who is notorious for this abuse. Freedom of speech does not mean monopolizing speech with non-stop lengthy posts that in effect block other member's freedom of speech. And if we collapse all these No Value posts, the entire thread could be collapsed. Please, help -- Help protect speech for everyone on FR!

Billy kidwell 1.12

That and much more was said of Bush, some of the vilest stuff ever directed towards a president. That said, I'll wager you never voted republican then either. You are an interesting bird, a conservative that votes for socialists.

Don't give up the fight BrianB! Some day you'll convince someone out there that your fact-less irrational view of the nation's political sphere is correct!

Wet Willy

You mind telling me what politicians we even have that are socialists? There are no socialists on the ballot for us to vote for.

Only complete morons who hear the term on Fox, have no idea the correct usage of it, but bandy it about as an insult for Democrats and liberals.

True Patriot,

There's a troll who goes by Brianb (and/or Kirk)

I note that you posted in the afternoon, so you may not see this. But it's interesting you should say the above because I have wondered for some time whether Brianb and Kirk are the same person. There's evidence for and against it, but both are at the same shallow intellectual level.

Dangerous mind 1.48

Here we go again with some radical committed leftist claiming not only that no one but he and his kind understand the correct usage of the term but that Obama isn't one.

The main problem with you and others that share your leftist ideology is that anyone that has an even slightly different view is a right wing fanatic. This is the reason you don't see the socialist Obama for what he is.

A vote for Obama is a vote for the collective.

Wet... the same, unfortunately, can be said for the rightist of the group. This is in parctice with the current leaders of the right: fight everything Obama proposes regardless of whether his proposals back some of the ideas the right has: small business help, tax reductions, cutting spending. Your statement at the end of your post only strengthens my statement. Obama is far from being a "socialist" as your reference of "collective" implies. It is amazing you are contradicting yourself in the SAME post.

I agree with you Joe. Yes, the same can be said about the far right. However, your assertion that Obama has any notion of cutting spending is divorced from reality. He does from time to time propose some small spending reduction without affecting his trillion plus, year after year madcap spending deficits using money that simply doesn't exist.
His class warfare tactic is classic socialist/Marxist rhetoric as evident by his calls for the wealthy to pay their fair share but purposely is vague about exactly what he thinks this fair share should be. Why? Because someone might ask him: if the top 5% already pay more taxes than the other 95% combined, what exactly would you think their fair share should be? I'll bet Obama won't want to answer that question in front of any cameras.

Nope, there's no contradiction in my previous post, and if Obama gets re-elected, you will really see the socialist Obama at work. Watch the national debt clock going up at an ever increasing rate.

Would you as a member of the collective welcome your new socialist overlords?

"Santorum is a disease, Nut, Liar, Reject, Loser and a Phony"

Good evening Chucky! Left some good music on for you, this evening. Hope you like Janice!

But seriously all I can think of is "Duh" Every politician, every campaign spins everything! No news to me. Why are they surprised? (BTW, Santorum believes what he says until he has to correct it)

The real winner in all this is the maker of the Etch o' Sketch! Sales have got to be up!

Staying with the currently popular old toys analogy thing I would have given points to Mr. Santorum if he had been clever enough to work in the Spirograph with his spinning accusations.

Mark,

I loved the Spirograph! Got one for the granddaughters. They fought over who got to use it next!

You know phine, I honestly think Santorum is genuinely surprised when he gets called on his many gaffs. I believe that he believes that his beliefs are normal. He must live in a very insulated world.

Good points Chucky. I think there are an awful lot of people in this country (both Ds&Rs) who wanted to see Rick Santorum get the GOP nomination; unfortunately he has this very bad habit of sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. And this cost him dearly. I think in many ways he is much more likeable than Willard, but he can't be running for the presidency by carrying out the wishes of the Catholic Church. People just don't like it.

I find Romney to be a truly despicable person. Every single person I talk to can't stand the sight of him. Men, women, democrats & republicans. Unfortunately Santorum doesn't come off much better. It was there for him, but he blew it.

So Romney will win the nomination and will continue to look and sound like the jacka$$ that he truly is.

What was his latest? That President Bush should have helped out the banks, but President Obama should not have helped out the auto industry?

I hope there are ads about this.

Best part of it all, Chucky. It is his WIFE that calls him on the gaffes. Love it! (Must be the wife thing in me)

Hey Mark, I spent quite a lot of time on your website and it's wonderful! Fantastic photos from all over the world. Thanks for sharing them with us.

Very true Pat. That dichotomy of thought that its okay to help banks but not to help the auto industry will sink Romney with most of the middle class.

Pat & Chucky,

From friends and family in the "rust belt" I am hearing disgust for both parties. Quite a few are leaning to staying home in November. I am trying to talk them out of that, but that is how disgusted with the whole political scene they have become.

Keep on'em phine. I've always said I'd rather have 90% of the people vote and have my guy lose than only have 40% of the people vote and my guy win. Democracy works best when more folks are involved and informed.

Hi Pat,

Thanks, glad you enjoyed my site! I am constantly adding pictures to it, stop by any time.

Chucky,

You will be pleased to know I have been directing them to OUR favorite site. Got 5 of them to join up! Not as many as I hoped, but it is a start!

phine, in all my life do I ever remember when people weren't disgusted with politics/politicians. It seems to be a natural state of mind here in America. But I do wish people paid attention. Especially for the past - like - 30 years.

Pat,

These are lower, middle class types. After saying hello, the next line is either "You working?" or "Find anything yet?" They are so down and depressed, it is sad. A lot of these people would be like the early pioneers at this point, willing to pull up roots and start over somewhere if they had the chance and know how. And we are talking families that are rooted in the same spot for generations.

President Obama appears to believe what he says, and say what he believes, but most Republicans (and some Democrats) don't believe that of him and then are surprised when he actually does what he said he would.

Santorum appears to actually believe what he says, and most people believe that of him. Like it or not, if elected he would try his level best to do what he says he will.

Romney says the exact same things that Santorum does, but nobody believes he means it.

People are actually voting for Mitt Romney BECAUSE they think he's a liar!

Mark, don't worry I won't be a stranger to your site. It's lovely and quite mind boggling to see all the traveling you have done. One thing we don't share - love of flying. LoL. I hate to fly, but it doesn't stop me from going where I want to go. In preparation for my trip later this summer I'm right now reading Anton Chekhov. He's truly a remarkable writer.

This summer I've decided to tackle War & Peace. I'm not so much afraid of the size of the book, it's more the fact that there are 350 characters involved and I imagine it will be hard to keep track of all those Russian names. It was suggested on one site that you need to keep Cliff Notes handy, which I may do if I run into problems. But it is supposed to be one of, if not the greatest novels ever written, so I'm going to give it a try.

Interesting times back then I must say.

commonsense, I get the same sense that you do. People will vote for Romney because they know he's full of ****. So wasn't Sarah Palin.

It's pretty tough to deal with a Congress who said from the get go they weren't going to work with President Obama. It's kind of amazing that people in this country liked that idea.

Think of what they could have accomplished if they actually gave a damn.

Right now we're all thinking here in MA - if we stay home on election day - Scott Brown gets re-elected. And we don't want to do that to the rest of the country.

Chucky,

Santorum does think his ideology and fatih beliefs are normal He is a member of Opus Dei. When you live and breathe their stuctured way of life you are suprised no one else see the world quite the way you do.

Pat,

I did War & Peace many years ago and had to keep a "cheat sheet". Think I will stick with the Rise & Fall of the Roman Empire. (Besides, hubby and I love Italy)

phine,

aaah Italy - I have a friend who will only go to Italy for her vacations. I try to talk her into seeing other parts of the world but she won't hear of it. She adores Italy. For her birthday next month I bought her some hot cocoa from Bellagio, which is where she's going in May.

I hope you travel to Italy again, soon. We are all in need of a good long vacation far far away this summer, before the general election in the Fall. Nothing quite like taking in some breathtaking scenery this summer, whether it be in Italy, California, the Grand Canyon, the National Parks or New England. Oceans, lakes, rivers, mountains, parks. So much to see and do.

Pat,

We are partial to Sardinia. Although there is no place like Rome! Best way to do it, rent an apartment in Rome, get a rail pass and enjoy!

Santorum was born at least a half a century too late for the kinds of views he has. However, I can at least respect him for offering up the views, which he has to know might alienate him from all but the core Republicans. Santorum stands for something.

On the other hand, what in the world does Romney stand for, other than getting elected? Based on his performance in the last few months alone, Romney does not seem to have any core belief system, and that will be his downfall. The etch-a-sketch comment revealed the Romney game plan, and unless the economy completely tanks again in the next 3 months, the voters aren't going to buy it--not when just about every comment he made in his entire political life can be put out there in a nicely packaged Youtube clip.

To: NorthstarDFL

Opus Dei was a 1920's depression era religious con, that many during that terrible time, fell victim to. Extremism at it's finest.

As long as you do not try to force your "Church" beliefs upon me, I do not care what you do, within the law of the land.

What an intelligent retort.

Politicians can't shut up. They love hearing themselves speak!

Phancy at least your remarks have some substance to them.

BB

Thank the margaritas for that! :) Just kidding. (Although, Mr. p does make a good one)

No matter how much Santorum cries foul and blames others for twisting his words, he still doesn't want to believe that he screwed up.

It's that good old "individual responsibility" that Republicans claim to believe in and lack now more than ever.

Hey BB:

Everyone knows you're an Obama hater. But, please, can't you come up with something more intelligent than sound-bites?

What has the President EVER "blamed" on anyone else? Oh, the cratered economy he inherited? Well, isn't that FACT?

What else ya got? I mean, if nothing then give it a rest already. Take phine's advice and have a margarita!

getyourhead - You must really pay attention to soundbites. Unfortunately I don't have time to listen to them. I am quite impressed that you are up on all of them though. Do you listen in at work... maybe watch Fox news at night but tell nobody that you do....

How about this getyourhead..... how about you stop paying so much attention to how I view things... and stick with your views... you seem to do the liberal speak thing really well. You have all the liberal answers and seem to think Obama is blameless... after 3 years... first two of which were among his democrats in the house and senate... How's those unemployment numbers coming getyour? How about the national debt... isn't Obama a whiz at getting it down? How about just the deficit... he's doing wonders with making it grow... upward, not downward... adding more money to the debt each and every day.... Glad you worship a president with no ideas and working very hard to break the backs of American citizens.

Oh, and one last thing... He's doing all this while creating the illusion it's the republicans fault... and you fall for it hook line and sinker. Seems to me that you are the one being duped. Placing your trust in a politician that is trying very hard to convince people to vote for him even though his presidency is far worse than Jimmy Carters.

Brianb

I understand that you love Santorum, but remove your lips from his butt for a second here. This guy has been shooting himself in the foot the last 2 months with comments that a lot of people are not finding worthy of a president. Don't get me wrong, the other candidates and Obama as well have done the same thing, but this guy is making a habit of it every week. Santorum has made plenty of statements and then turns around to BLAME someone else for saying they turning his words around. He's been doing this from moment one. Instead of saying, "Yes I said those things" and then explain himself, he's busy blaming Romney or Gingrich that they are taking things out of context. Sorry, I don't want someone who is going to back track and say, "well that isn't how it happened" when it is documented via video or recorded from interviews. The guy is an idiot like everyone else who is running for president, including Obama. None of them are good. So get off your high horse and get back in the realm of reality.

jazman, that is indeed the last stance of a failing politician who knows he or she does not have a chance in hell getting elected.

Let's just hope The Rick won't run around, while relieving his sexual frustrations.

I agree!

Keep your Church out of my life!

His last name is also slang for post-anal butt-juice, just ask Google :D

What a coincidence. Three Stooges the movie is out later this year.

It's already out and playing now.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

I wouldn't vote for any of these candidates. Even if my life depended upon it. Wait.... it just might.

Vote: Obama/Biden 2012

To save the country from this lunacy.

I dunno man, I'm still kind of undecided, they're all just bad...

I mean first he goes after the gays and gets a slang named after him that spreads enough to STILL be on the first page of Google, then he denounces women in combat situation as "compromising the missions", then he goes after our porn because apparently it... "contributes to misogyny and violence against women. It is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking"?

If I didn't know better I'd say that he WANTS to lose.

Then the other two... Mitt flip-flops more than my boss, and that's saying something. I actually started reading the Book of Mormon after Magic Underwear Mittens got into the spotlight. In the first hour I saw angelically encouraged murder in the name of God, impersonation, making the first convert under threat of execution, and a guy dreaming about a divine acid trip. It's actually pretty entertaining if you look at it as a work of fiction instead of a religious script.

And Newt? Gotta admit he's got some balls. I mean preaching about the sanctity of marriage after divorcing his wife on her death bed? It doesn't get much more blatantly hypocritical than that.

Given these choices and unless someone legitimately better comes along I'm Obama / Biden all the way.

I agree, Denise. He will sell the average American people out in favor of the elite businessmen who support him.

You must be proud of your own communist party with Mao in Chief at the helm attempting to create his own USSA ( United Socialist States of Amerika)

Earl,

Good post, although you may want to post it earlier in the evening....

Excuse me! The changes that Obama has made are the most detrimental changes that any President has made in the history of this country. Our country had it credit rating hit because this President slam dunked into so much debt your great, great grandchildren will still be paying it of when they become great grandparents. Wake up and LEARN the facts.

Regards;

One of the many unlearned Republicans.