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Subscribe to RSSThe Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd talks about Rick Santorum's comments to a crowd of supporters, in which he said President Barack Obama is better than Mitt Romney.
SAN ANTONIO, TX -- Rick Santorum today suggested it would be better to stick with President Obama over a candidate that might be "the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future” -- a shot at chief rival Mitt Romney.
"You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who’s just going to be a little different than the person in there," said Santorum. "If you’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future.”
For the second day in a row, the former Pennsylvania senator brought an Etch A Sketch on the trail as a prop to remind voters of Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom's response to a question about whether Santorum is pushing Romney too far right to win over moderate voters in a general election. "Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes," Fehrnstrom said Wednesday on CNN. "It’s almost like an Etch A Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all over again."
The comment gave plenty of ammunition to Santorum and Newt Gingrich, both of whom have made the well-known children's toy a staple of their stump speeches.
Speaking at the USAA headquarters here, Santorum showed optimism about his chances in the delegate rich state of Texas. He told the crowd the primary would not be over by the time the Lone Star State votes on May 29.
"It's the second-biggest delegate prize, and you're going to have an important role. This race will not be over when Texas is coming around," he said.
Santorum's viability hinges on picking up a majority of the 155 delegates that will be up for grabs here. When asked about his path to the nomination, Texas plays a key role.
Still, the GOP hopeful avoided calling on Newt Gingrich to leave the race, though senior campaign advisers have said the former House speaker remaining in the race is cutting into their vote totals and that they would like to receive the former House speaker's support.
Santorum said his campaign has been in contact with both the Gingrich and Romney campaigns, though he declined to give specifics of the conversations.
"I’m worried about being a candidate. I’m not worried about anything else right now,” Santorum told reporters who asked about the nature of the conversations.
Accompanying Santorum on the trail today was billionaire-backer Foster Freiss, who is a chief contributor to the pro-Santorum Super PAC Red, White and Blue Fund. They will attend a fundraiser in Dallas on Thursday afternoon.
*** UPDATE *** The Romney camp responds with this statement from the former Massachusetts governor: “I am in this race to defeat Barack Obama and restore America’s promise. I was disappointed to hear that Rick Santorum would rather have Barack Obama as president than a Republican. This election is more important than any one person. It is about the future of America. Any of the Republicans running would be better than President Obama and his record of failure.”
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Now you have really made Mitt mad Rick, he is going to hire someone to punch you in the nose.
Okay America, who will it be? Etchy, Prober, cheater, or the only adult in the room, President Obama?
Well Rick, we can scratch you off the list of possible VP candidates!
Wow. Santorum just went "all in" with that rhetoric! We shall see what kind of poker player he is when all is said and done.
Now that is the most intelligent statement I've ever heard from Santorum.
Obama/Biden 2012
@ Shay, That was pure luck on Ricky's part. He makes lots of stuck on stupid statements, and every once in a while he says something that makes sense quite by accident.
Santorum is exactly right, we are much better off with President Obama.
Thank you Rick Santorum for telling the truth!
Obama / Biden 2012
Thanks again to the Romney campaign, the gift that keeps on giving.
Thanks to the Santorum camp that takes the gift and hands it to the president.
Go GOP!?
Obama/Biden 2012
"SAN ANTONIO, TX -- Rick Santorum today suggested it would be better to stick with President Obama over a candidate that might be "the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future” -- a shot at chief rival Mitt Romney."
It's official: the GOP are barbecuing their own young and eating them.
President Obama has worn out three etch-a-sketches this week alone, and If he wins a second term, without a re-election to worry about, I can Imagine the work of art we can expect...but I don't think I could allow myself to vote for one Big Government Liberal over another because of the color of his skin...besides, I think we are already swimming up Niagra Falls
YES!!
It appears that Tricky Ricky has been working to get President Obama re-elected all along! Now we can understand the true purpose behind all the politically suicidal statements he's made on the campaign trail!! :)
Thank you, Mr. Santorum, for endorsing the President!
You can go home now.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
Santorum is typical and the same type of mindlessness and thoughtlessness that characterizes the TEA PARTY.
Santorum is right. Obama is a better choice than Romney. He's also a better choice than Santorum or Gingrich.
Not a great choice to be found in this election, but I'm pretty sure that I prefer Obama over any of the empty suits on the Republican side.
kaybeetoys---every dollar spent by the repubs is a dollar spent helping to re-elect obama. i think santorum just committed political suicide ---no matter what else you do you must tow the party line. saying obama is better than romney will not soon be forgiven.
RushISaPIG...Icky is finally doing the right thing. Let's not characterize it as mindlessness and thoughtlessness!
He has seen the light!!
granny...it's a great thing that the Republican candidates have so much money to spend, isn't it? This makes my day!!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
Even the candidates are starting to recognize what many of us have been speculating - they are so inept, so clownish, that they are actually helping Obama to get re-elected.
they use the tactics of children bullies. Pretty sad.
This whole etch a sketch thing is a non-issue. The only people trying to make hay out of it are desperate candidates, the left leaning media and it's pundits and posters here who are trying to convince themselves and each other that Romney is not a threat.
SI
This time I actually agree with Santorum. You know what, I pledge not to make fun of Santorum's Google problem for next 24 hours.
Wow! Wait until the Presidential debates when Obama get's to tell millions of Americans that other Republicans actually supported me over their own candidate.
"...the left leaning media..."
That darn left leaning media is guilty of everything that has ever gone wrong for the GOP, isn't it? It's also responsible for the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa, the Kennedy assassination, and sunspots, too, right?
The fact is, ol' Mitt "Etch-A-Sketch" Romney will be wearing that necktie for the rest of the election. I hope he likes it.
I agree entirely with Santorum on this. Why vote for a guy just because he has an "R" by his name? If he is not going to represent conservatism, stick with what is in there so that we may at least learn a lesson about ideologies. I dont want a moderate, and either do the Dems. Represent your ideology fully instead of pandering for the most votes....O'bama is guilty of that as well with his latest approval of the southern half of the Keystone pipeline amongst many other things. (we are still in the ME for example). Represent your ideology or dont bother. Half the country is going to be pissed at you no matter what you do anyhow!
Ricky just killed any hope of him wining the nomation...
But he didn't have much chance of winning from the git go....
No odumo 2012
This race is already over, he may as well speak his mind.
Santorum is done and he knows it and it shows.....it will be Romney/Rubio on 11/6/12!..........................and have a nice day.............
Kornfed...shockingly, I agree with part of what you said.
But "I don't want a moderate and neither do the Dems"? Obama is a moderate.
Obama's approval of the southern half of the Keystone Pipeline is not 'pandering'. If you look back to his earlier reasoning on the pipeline issue, he simply felt he needed more information to make a decision and the Republicans were pushing for it to be approved before all the facts were in.
Once in a great while Santorum says something that actually makes sense
The fact is, ol' Mitt "Etch-A-Sketch" Romney will be wearing that necktie for the rest of the election. I hope he likes it.
No Sailcat, this issue is non-existent. Santorum and Gingrich are dead men walking, which makes Romney the inevitable Republican nominee. He really doesn't need to move to the middle because he's already there. This is the reason he has difficulty appealing to the Republican base and also why he appeals to independents like myself. The Republicans will support him regardless, as will many independents. The Democrats are doing themselves a disservice by taking him lightly as the general election will be very competitive.
SI
It must REALLY suck to be Mitt Romney. Really. Seriously! It must suck to be him.
He looks like hell, have you seen him lately? Huge bags under his eyes, tired, almost haggard looking. He has that "deer-in-the-headlights" look on his face all the time now.
Folks, no joke. I feel bad for him, I really do and I'm not kidding. He looks awful.
The bottom line is, Mitt is a moderate. He is my SECOND choice for President. My only concern is who he brings to the party with him and as we've seen in this election he CAN be pulled hard to the right to pander to the new GOP. If he's that easy to manipulate away from his true, core values then I have serious concerns about his ability to resist the far right as President.
But, geeeez, you've got to feel sorry for the guy. He just doesn't seem to be able to catch a break. All that money, beautiful wife, great looking sons, all the advantages and perks life in America can bring and yet he just can't quite grasp the brass ring of the Presidency. The one thing above all others he really wants.
It must suck to be Mitt Romney.
Obama/Biden 2012
Not quite; he's slightly farther left then a Blue Dog, he just prefers compromise though. His management style is to leave the business of Congress to Congress whenever possible. Even going back to the healthcare debate, he only got involved when everything became a standstill, but stayed out of the legislative process almost entirely.
Someone like Cuomo down in NY, or another Blue-Dog Democrat [Read: Fiscally conservative, Socially liberal Republicans that were booted during the Regan administration] represents the moderate wing of the Democratic party.
The irony is just like Bush the first, if he had party backing, Romney wouldn't be that bad a president.
You libs are a hoot!! Of course campaign strategy changes from the primaries to the general election so what's the big deal?? Just keep beatin the Etch a Sketch thing though if it gives you a little hope for obumbo. He is GONE!!
Anyone but obumbo 2012
"Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It's almost like an Etch A Sketch."
Mittens, Etch a Sketch, Rob-us-blind, Flip Flop Romnut, the 1%'er actually 0.006%’er a COOPERATE RAIDER and one time governor of Liberal Mass but now he is an arch conservative. Has supported Abortion, Gay Rights, Gun Control, Stem Cell Research and has reverse himself on all of these issues.
He took both sides on the financial bailout, the stimulus bill, the auto loan package;
His biggest Flip-Flop of all Health Care Reform The national Law is modeled on the one that he championed as governor in Mass that requires every citizen to have health insurance. Now he has Flipped-Flopped. Mr. Flop has taken a hard slide to the right pandering and boot licking to the tea party.
Mitt Flip-Flop Rob-us-blind, a wishy-washy, flip flopping spineless politician without any core convictions, principals or believes a man who will say or do anything to get elected telling one crowd one thing and another crowd another. You simply can’t trust this guy to tell you the truth.
The only good thing that would happen if Flip-Flop were to get elected It would prove that Conservatism is dead as Flip-Flop would stab the Conservatives in the back.
Mitt Flip Flop Romney LMAO!
Feel sorry for the American people. The politicians spend their time as follows:
50% - raise money to get elected
25% - how to spend money to get elected
10% - making book deals/connections etc if they don't get elected
10% - actually doing their job
05% - thinking "should I have egg whites for breakfast?"....cause this job is gonna give me a heart attack!
@Seattle Indie,
Electing Romney Noodle "Etch-A-Sketch" You nor your sons will have adequate medical care and no social security. Unless your family is rich. So go right ahead and vote your hatered and everyone else safety net away.
You have 312 Million people living in the United States everyone can't and will never be rich like you. So what do you do with them? Let them just die, if that is the case tens of thousands of businesses would die with them. I will blame people like you for putting another repuk in office that will destory the fabric of our economy based the greedy rich.
Talk to you soon "Etch-A-Sketch"
Hope Santorum doesn't get the nomination and wouldn't vote for more of the same. This country can't afford it as at the present rate the country will soon be bankrupt.
Vote everyone out and start over again with new people!
Rick shows his true colors and the way he acting, he really needs to bottle in his mouth. Rick is a sore loser and being spiteful and nasty. You wonder why I will never support him Rick) or Newt just by their actions and attitudes.
I agree. At least he went for it when the Dems had the house and Senate, even though i disagree with it.
Yes it is hehe. He managed to piss off his own base with it, without winning over any conservatives. He is going for the independent that does not like high gas prices with window dressing. He accomplishes nothing with this other than pandering to the moderate. I dont see how you could spin this any other way.
You're right. I wouldn't vote for anyone who had an R -next to his or her name b/c there's nothing moderate about the party line. At least there is a lot more room for varying ideology on the left. The president can say and do anything he want's under that tent, including doing somewhat conservative things.
Romnut aka Mr. FLIP FLOP can’t put away Rick Santorum
Despite all the money he has, the Restore Our Future Super PAC (which has spent $30+ million in advertisements), his organizational advantage, and all the help he’s receiving from the GOP establishment.
Romney is fighting the “loser” label; if he’s struggling against the under-financed and under-organized Santorum “Usually, once a politician takes on an aroma of hopelessness he keeps it. As Romney limps toward the finish line, the problem he has is that he looks like a LOSER
We are so screwed as country. We are going broke and headed towards Euro style socialism and these clowns are still busy talking smack to each other. One side is infatuated with a guy intent on changing the makeup of the greatest country this world has ever known and the other side is too busy doing the same old stuff. If someome with a pair would step up and start addressing what's happening right now, as opposed to pandering for votes, people might actually get behind them. Look at Barry... all he did was promise "change" and he got voted in. Too bad the change wasn't better.
Too bad we won't have Ron Paul to add to the list of choices- thanks voters!
Electing Romney Noodle "Etch-A-Sketch" You nor your sons will have adequate medical care and no social security.
Solutions:
If the country continues on its current course it will soon be bankrupt. If that happens neither of us nor our sons will have adequate medical care or social security. But you can trust me on this, these will be the least of our worries.
SI
Wow, I guess Republicans don't want to try to win an election. Its a shame, really. I've always wanted two candidates to choose from, because aside from the fringe claim that there is only one best party in the United States, I think most people would disagree. If you didn't want a choice for President, you could move to Russia. I hear things are going great over there.
Whatever. Fringers have taken over enough of the Republican party to make any real conservative concerned. Much like the fringers of the Democratic party did under Carter.
To composer,
Santorum is right. Obama is a better choice than Romney. He's also a better choice than Santorum or Gingrich
But none of them are better than RON PAUL. All you people keep ignoring him, keep it up and we will talk after he is elected president.
I originally posted the following blog on March 10th. Mr. Santorum's recent statement reinforces my perception of the upcoming election.
Can we postpone the election for another year or two? This is great comedy!!!!!
Is Santorium an O'Bama Operative or a Democrat in Sheep's Clothing? Either way it appears he more of a Democrat than a Republican. A Republican running for a Democrat should leave the Republican Party and show his TRUE Democrat colors!!
The only way Ron Paul would ever be taken seriously is if he ran as a third party
Because Ron Paul is not a Republican and he is not a Democrat He is a Libertarian. So he will never have the support of either party
Say it ain't so Joe
Santorium is a Conservative and the Conservatives HATE Mr. Flip Flop's guts
Wayne,
I prefer Ass Juice and Moon Base, for Santorum and Gingrich. However, I will be trading Fat Cat in for Etch-A-Sketch when speaking of Romney.
So....
Moon Base, Ass Juice, or Etch-A-Sketch??? I'm comfortable with Obama, however it would have been nice to see someone really challenge him. How else will he improve?
What a load of, well, Ass Juice.
usa1967,
These are the type of comments that are embarrassing:
Santorum is the one running around with the Etch a Sketch in his hand... Is he one those Libs as well???
As for Santorum's comment, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Rick!
Seattle Indie and (you forgot to add) the sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!!
Wow, I wonder how much the democrats are paying Santorum to sabotage the Republican primaries?
Oh, and every single one of you Obama suporters are retarded. You've fallen for the smile of the most obvious failure in presidential history.
Spencer,
Care to make a substantive case against Obama, or just call people retarded without backing it up?
Rick, I totally disagree with you. No one could be worse than Obama, who has no, zero, zip, leadership qualities. Oh I nearly forgot, he (obama) is also divisive.
Rick is so stupid. He will loose votes, not gain any. All the people here cheering for Obama have already made their mind many years ago. So that wont change. The people who are not very involved with politics will decide who will be the president.
Romney/ ? 2012!!!
Hard & Spencer,
Which of these Republican prospects have come forward with anything except pandering?
The deficit??? Get real. Romney's tax plan, according to Forbes, would add 3 trillion to the deficit, over the course of 10 years. Not to be out done, Gingrich's would add 1 trillion, in a single year. And Santorum's would have federal revenues declining by about 900 billion by 2015.
According to the CBO, on average our discretionary budget is about 1.35 trillion. Our defense spending is about 1.45 tillion. And, of course, approximately 1.56 trillion on entitlements.
So, basically, if you wanted to offset Romney's or Santorum's revenue decreases with spending cuts, we would have to not spend a single dime. On anything. And Gingrich's, well that wouldn't even be possible.
Now, put this all together with these three guys crying for more war in the middle east, how on earth, would we pay for it? What's their plan for getting out of Afganistan? Not one of them has given any details or provided any kind of plan in regards to the war we already have going, yet here they are talking about starting a second. Like two wars and tax cuts worked so well the first time around?
And yes, let's talk about healthcare. We all know they hate "Obamacare", but how would they fix the system we have? The system that sucks the life and finances, literally, out of both the insured and the uninsured. Besides repealing AHA, what would they do to stop the racket which is our health industry?
And, since they all hate spending so much, how do they propose we fix our infrastructure and education? Wave magic wands???
What about Wall St? How are they going to reform and regulate the big banks so as to keep this crap from happening again? What's their plan in regards to Dodd-Frank vs. Glass-Stegall?
What do these three suggest we do about China's currency manipulation, or the fact that they have MFN without abiding by the fair tariff policy? How are they going to compete with China's cheap labor market to bring jobs back here?
I've heard nothing of actual substance, or even common sense, from these guys. They do a wonderful job of pandering to the "Hate Train"... Hate immigrants! Hate Muslims! Hate gays! Hate abortion! Hate Obama! Hate the Federal Government! Hate Birth Control! Hate healthcare!
For Christ's sake, where's the "Fix Train"???? So, if you guys hate Obama so much, present us with a real alternative.
What's amazing to me is how the Republican party would think that any of these idiots has a chance to get independent votes. Oh sure Republicans will vote for them since they voted for a cheerleader from Alaska but it's the independents that swing the elections. Certainly Obama is not perfect but who would be with the nut cases in congress. The point is that there is no other choice for us independents except Obama unless the Republicans get their head out of the teabaggers posterior and nominate someone with a brain. Even then with the way the economy is picking up it will be hard to defeat a president that has gotten this country headed in the right direction again.
That's odd hardtostarboard, I find that President Obama has exemplary leadership qualities.
Perhaps you have poor followership qualities.
Well, it does make a refreshing change. They've been barbecuing our young and eating them. (A Modest Proposal, anyone?)
Obama/Biden 2012
The only sane choice.
"King Fetus" Santorum is starting to sound just like Sarah Palin
Scary Low IQ hot head rattle brains
Santorum said Obama would be better than Mitt??? Wow, How could a republican say that?!?!?! Well he is possibly right, because at least Obama has a few years in ruining this country,....maybe we should leave him to try adn fix his mess! And since Mitt is the nearly the same...what's there to lose? Idk....they are both horrible choices.
As for Rick Sanitarium.....Mitt should have noted how nuts Rick is, and pointed out that it would be safer to have Mahmoud Ahmedinejad as president than Rick Santorum......Rick wants is a religous nut and wants to go to war with anyone who is not of his faith....Extremist????
Now that these two "republicans" are making us see who they really are...children who appear to be grownups!!!.....We should look at the ONLY person who is addressing our real problems.....that is our domestic issues that need fixing....the ecomony.....We need to put into force our free market, and allow people to pursue their entrepreneurial dreams and let get this country back in order! A free market....not all these restrictions and regulations and insane new laws that Obama put into effect in the last few months!
Obama/Biden 4 more years????really???? NOT (Besides, i dont think Biden is going to be included)
Romney/Obama ???? Romney/Biden??? Romney/Hillary???? Hillary/Obama??? Idk....whats the difference????
Want the change that Obama was talking about????? = Ron Paul....the only difference!
It's funny that the TEA party isn't 100% behind Ron Paul because they are really Libertarians in Republican clothing.
Santorum is a moron with his etch-a-sketch attacks. He would have people believe there is some kind of magical one size fits all campaign strategy. Of course campaign strategies are revised according to who the opponent is and it is insulting to be told otherwise.
As anyone with even a portion of their brain functioning knows, this is the nature of politics and all candidates from either party do it.
Desperate much. Ricky?
Erm, no. We stay far away from that particular sect. But Santorum is a rare bird - a Republican who speaks the truth without focus-group-testing it to death first. Blue hats off to truth-telling (not so much to instituting Christian Sharia on everybody).
Your absolutly right usa1967. I couldn't believe Newt and Santorum jumped all over that line. Did they really think extreme conservativism would appeal to the other 3/4 of the population in the general election?!??
Maybe this is a devious reverse psychology ploy by the RNC, but I just don't get it.
Obama/Biden 2012
And here I was so hoping to spend the rest of my life barefoot and pregnant.
I must add that agreeing with Ass Juice, even on his point about Obama being better than Etch-A-Sketch, makes me feel a little dirty. Like a traitor to my gender.
Name calling is soooo convincing. I am sure people who are being called 'libbies' are so going to vote for the 'conservies'
Anybody hear insulting the people they disagree with and on the campaign trail 'helping' a candidate? Do your candidate a favor and get off the trail.
I can't say that I don't do my own fair share. But you know, I guess it all depends. All I'm saying is I can't see anyone changing their position.
Amen!!! I dont know why are low educated poor people think religion is more important than being at wars that are not our job to do, education, health care they dont have, and an economy that Republicans dont want our President to fix so they can grasp at straws to try to get one of their party elected.
If they want our country to be so much better work together and pass bills to change things.
One lets stop all of the money we gove to other nations every year. Afganistan gets 8 billion dollars a year from the USA and 70 billion since 2002. 1.5 Billion a year to Egypt, and close to 58 billion a year in total, why??? I know as well as the rest of you this money doesnt go to aid anyone parties taking it.The money we give to other countries alone would pay off our deficits, in several years.
Stop the free aid to other countries and invest here in the good ole US of A.
Obama/ Clinton 2012
Then Clinton/? 2016
Do the republicans even want to win the election??? I think they are all TRYING to loose!
It's as if Romney and Santorum are trying to out do each other in a 'who can be the bigger idiot' contest.
Romney: "I'm worse than you are...."
Santorum: "No - I'm the bigger idiot here..."
Gingrich: "Hey, what about me? I can screw it up too, ya know!!"
Paul (Well I happen to like Paul's "Smaller Gov't" policies - but NO other politician will ever agree to that. So we can write him off.)
Derek,
I don't know what planet you live on, being called a "libbie" changes my mind everytime. Kind of like shaking an Etch-A-Sketch. Just call me a name and I'll switch positions.
Public figures are fair game, everyone else should be handled with subtle gloves.
Santorum is so desperate at this point, he will say anything. He's always been the dirtiest guy in the race.
Seattle Indie @ comment 1.17:
I finally saw a comment that pushed me far enough to make me want to comment too. Do you really want to see Mitt Romney as president of this nation?????? And who are the 16 others who voted for your comment. (Well I really don't care who those 16 are; they are in the same boat as you! Why don't you take your dingy boat, with Mitt Romney and his gangster crowd, out into your imaginary ocean and sink it!)
FYI...
Subtle gloves = Sarcasm, preferrably intelligent enough to go right over their heads without them realizing they're even being made fun of.
Correctit,
They're the same 16 people that approve of congress.
Well, I can't say I am a shining example of not insulting people. But let's just establish that name calling isn't going to exactly endear anybody to that person's side, as fun as it is. I guess, it's a dirty admission, but it is fun. Maybe because it is just so damn ineffective.
In the meantime, just to get our heads wrapped around not just the political race, let's pay attention to this story too:
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/23/10825305-landmark-case-nigerian-villagers-sue-shell-over-oil-spills
Now, back to your First Read political flame war.
And what if I still want to vote for a Republican president? What am I to do??
CorrectIt, you are sure correct; I cannot vote for Mitt Romney!
Screech and whine about it all you like. Blame the Left all you like. But it was one of Mittens' own aides that gave him his nickname, and now it's members of your own filthy, hateful, cutthroat GOP that are using it against li'l Mittens now... Go whine to your mommy if it helps...but you have only the right-wing machine to blame for this one.
Sarah,
"Ass Juice"? Really? C'mon girlfriend, you are smart, funny and very pretty you don't need to stoop to that.
You know I love you and I agree with you, but Grandpa says please don't let the RWNJ's drag you down to their level.
We can make our point without joining them in the mud-pit.
Well, unless you like mud-wrestling...in a tiny string bikini.....(Sound up: Homer Simpson drooling over a donut) then sign me and Rush Limbaugh up for sure. :-)
Just kidding...just kidding.....don't go ballistic on me...just kidding. Next thing you know you'll be calling me "Mud Gramps" or something worse.
But I hope you see my point.
Now "Moon Unit" or "Moon Base" is perfectly acceptable.
Gamerk2..I'm trying to figure out if you're are a "gamer 2000" or a "Game Merc #2. Enlighten me. Back on point, I respectfully disagree, President Obama is a moderate. But I guess it's all in the perception. I regard most so-called "Blue-dogs" as DINO's. They are a bit right of center. I agree, Obama is a bit left of center, but he is first and foremost a centrist and tries to govern from the middle, which is where you want your government. The polar extremes are NOT the right was to govern a people as diverse as we are.
Obama/Biden 2012
I like it!
Grandpa Skip,
I'm sorry to break your heart, Ass Juice it is. It has to be be. Google has forced it to be so.
His name is forever synonomous with it.
Santorum, Ass Juice. Ass Juice, Santorum. They are officially one and the same. I do not make the truth, just speak it.
I hope you can forgive me... Mud Gramps. ;)
How about that! Sanitarium actually said something I agree with!
I think we can all agree that both Democrats and Republicans are going to increase the size of government as we have seen in the past. The only person who wants real change is... Ron Paul
Silver Flyer
That's odd hardtostarboard, I find that President Obama has exemplary leadership qualities.
Perhaps you have poor followership qualities.
WTF???? are you talking about? What leadership skills? I know many Obama supporters dont have the mind to rationalize or reason.....but what is it that he has done??? I know this sounds like i am yelling....because i am so confused by what you are saying???? Let's see....he passed the N.D.A.A.....and more recently...H.R. 347 (a.k.a. The Tresspass Bill)...that alone is enough to impeach him! Aside from taking 17, 18, 20....vacations....what has he done??? Pull the troops out of Iraq?....# years after he said he was going to do it! Didnt he say that that was the 1st (not 2nd, not 3rd) he was going to do....and he even said "You can take that to the bank".....the only thing he took to the bank was taxpayers money, in the form of bailouts, that allowed the CEO to collect their huge bonuses!!!!! Sorry Silver Flyer, but it is YOU who have been brainwashed!!!! It is not for the American people to have "folowership" skills as it is more important to have a president with "leadership" skills....Obama has none. If you want to "follow", might as well go live in Iran....this country is not about . This country is about having a freemarket, in which the governments does NOT restrict entrepreneurial ability, and innovation, and this is the way to prosperity.....or we can do what Obama does....restirct our civil liberties, regulate teh hell out of business...so no one wants to even try to become better.....because "you" can just rely on government handouts!!!!
To hell with that....I want to go make my money....earn my money....and reap my own rewards!!!! I donate anywhere from 8 - 10% into charity, because i believe in that (not any charity...most are bullsh*t).....No one has the right to my money!!! No one, but me!
This is one of the greates things i like about Ron Paul.....Why do we need the income tax??? the IRS? Our money is taxes soooo many different times that we DONT NEED the IRS, and the INCOME TAX!!!! When i buy something...it is taxed....that company spends my (how his) money, and it is taxed....etc...
Obama = Marxism
Ron Paul can't get no love. There is no reason Santorum and he shouldn't be switched in delegate count, except for that's your establishment at work.
@skip Nicholson, you may not realize (or maybe you do) the whole Google Search for Santorum scandal, providing Sarah with her endearing name for the psycho. Anyway, search at your own risk...
You insult everyone who's actually had to live under the oppressive yoke of Marxism. We'll start there...
http://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/what-is-marxism-faq.htm
Furthermore, donating to charity is not the same as paying taxes. One is a choice you make to fulfill some innate desire to feel good about yourself, the other is a necessary contribution to your society which YOU ALSO BENEFIT FROM.
I'm so sick of people whining about paying their taxes. Life is pay to play, deal with it. You elect the people who write the tax code. You get a say. You live in, yes a flawed nation, but still a damn good one. Cease your crying and pay your damn taxes.
Gee, "Mud Gramps" sounds kinda sexy when you say it. :-)
rat back atcha darlin'
But I am sorry you are being lured to the dark side along with Feisty, whom I have met and have had lunch with and she, like you, is a lovely and intelligent woman. But she does like a good mud-fight/pissin' contest and I have never been able to dissuade her from it either. You know, the problem with pissin' contests is...everybody gets wet, and not in a good way.
Personally I think it is counter-productive. I think we catch more flies with honey than a sledge-hammer and I've said so, often, at the DDI and elsewhere, to no avail.
I liken this blog to a group psychiatric session where the patients get to act out their aggression behind an anonymous blog moniker instead of going home and kicking the cat. It may be satisfying, but it really does not help the overall toxic dialogue. It only makes it worse.
But as we say out here on the the prairie: "It's the Code of the West. A man (or a pretty young woman) has got to do, what a man's got to do."
I think I'll mosey on over to the saloon and grab me a cold one.
Have a nice weekend, and think on what ol' Mud Gramps has to say. You're smart, if you think about it you'll see the wisdom of my years. (man, am I fulla sh*t or what?)
Obama/Biden 2012
Mud Gramps,
Does this mean kicking the cat is a bad thing??? Oops.
I bow to your greater life experience and maturity, but Ass Juice is just too funny for me to stop. I promise to listen and digest fully your words though, and apply them where I am able to.
Since his name likely won't be on the ballot, he should cast his for Obama...
GOP better off with Obama than 'Etch A Sketch' Republican
Your proposal is acceptable!
Apologies to "men in Black"
Someone said this whole etch-a-sketch issue is nothing! Well sneaking out the back door at night with all the (gangsters) kings men and all the goods sure is an issue!
Oh no, Mitt Romney! Where is Robin hood when we need him?
Some of you funny people want to put gangster, Mitt(ens on the red hands) Romney on capitol hill? When you do, he will go through the front door sure enough. When you do put him in, me and my army will be by the back door all night and we will knock out Mittens and all his king's men, and give back to all the poor peasants everything that he robs you of.
It's a volunteer army; any more of you want to join?
While I wouldn't vote for Santorum, I do respect his honesty here. Seldom you ever hear such blatant truth from a republican about another republican. I have accused Rick of not really believing all the fanatical rants and proposals He has put forth during this campaign, now though, I think He may really believe himself. If He indeed does, then He's the only one of these candidates with any integrity.
Before this comment, Rick Santorum had some chance to be the front-runner for 2016 Republican nomination and he has lost all that with this comment.
Poor Rick!!!
Mac,
That's the one thing I will give him credit for and have mentioned before. Romney's pretending to be a crazy fundementalist, social conservative. Santorum actually is.
At least he keeps it real.
skip, you are the voice of reason. I've thought the same thing many times myself.
However, and I know it sounds childish to say, but the other side started it. Before President Obama had even taken the oath of office, Limbaugh was on air hoping he would fail. Since when does the POTUS get no honeymoon to implement the policies he was fairly elected to implement?
Since The Dark Side has seen fit to close their minds, forget history, and obstruct a sitting president every step of the way, we have nothing to gain by being nice and nothing to lose by dishing it back to them. Cement between the ears is their state of mind.
If it's war to the death for the future of our country, I'll sign my will and buy my casket. There is a time for civility, but there is also a time for standing our ground. In my opinion, Mr. Obama has tried too hard to be polite and conciliatory. Where has it gotten him?
I do respect your viewpoint and I hope you'll stick to it. We need the voice of a gentleman here.
And on today's episode of Desperate Wingnuts....
GOP candidates are now supporting Obama.
You just cannot make this stuff up !!
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As far as agreeing with Santorum... even a broken clock is right twice a day, this just happens to be one of those times.
So, even though agreeing with Santorum makes you feel dirty, and you find yourself taking a rape shower to try and wash away the feeling... just remember the broken clock.
Now, if you will excuse me, the water should be just the right temperature. I have some scrubbing to do.
Indie,
I feel like scrubbing with SOS pads might be appropriate.
Sorry about the double post, my computer sucks Ass Juice.
Indie,
I feel like scrubbing with SOS pads would be appropriate.
And, PS, Grandpa Skip...
I prefer to do my wrestling in Jello, but you have to visit my other site, "Sarah-Lostofnumbers-Liberal Fetus Eater... After Dark"
:0)
It's worth the $9.95 a month... giggity
Sarah,
Is that pay-per-view? Me and Rush want to know. :-)
I like Jello.
Have a great weekend, I just bought a case of Negra Modelo so my weekend is guaranteed. Yeeeehaw!
Obama/Biden 2012
Obama/Biden 2012
No...Santorum, Gingrich and Romney are working to convince us that Romney is not a threat.
You're blaming Democrats for Republicans eating their own young. There's an old saying; when your enemy is digging his own grave, don't take away his shovel...ROFLMAO.
BAD!, BAD! WRONG!! Kornfed, you could not possibly be more wrong!!!
blind adherence to ideology is the worst thing anyone can possibly do. blind, ideological faith is what leads entire nations to disaster and oblivion. history has proven that time and time again.
Santorum maybe an ultra-far-right nut, but at least he's steadfast and usually speaks honestly of what he believes. He and Ron Paul are much more genuine than the other GOP candidates by comparison. On the contrary, Romney is such a friggin' chameleon that you don't know what he'll be from moment to moment. How does anyone want to deal with such an unstable person, not to say a president of a leading country? What kind of idiots would want such an unpredictable mental case like romney to run their lives? This nut case Romney has splitted into multiple contradicting personalies right before our eyes throughout the course of his campagin. He is indeed the worse mental case one could ever witness!!!
N.D.A.A.......H.R.347 (Tresspass Bill)....these two should be enough to impeach him!
I'm looking forward to Obama campaign commercials that simply re-play this clip, then cut to Obama saying: "Can't argue with that."
MG,
I'm assuming then you were for the impeachment of W. Bush?
I highly disagree with NDAA, but there are better ways to fix it, and more just ways seeing as Obama did nothing more than sign it (with reservations), than impeachment.
Please, explain how signing NDAA is a high crime. Which crime did he committ and how did he meet the elements? Same goes for treason or bribery.
Innocent until proven guilty, well prove him guilty...
Heh, heh, heh... I just love it when the whackjobs go off script... Thanks for the endorsement, Rick!
You have left one out....The only one (according to all the news media that even ignore him) show that ONLY Ron Paul would lower the deficit....ONLY Ron Paul.....you seem to have left that out....just wanted to make your post complete!
According to the CBO, on average our discretionary budget is about 1.35 trillion. Our defense spending is about 1.45 tillion. And, of course, approximately 1.56 trillion on entitlements.
So, basically, if you wanted to offset Romney's or Santorum's revenue decreases with spending cuts, we would have to not spend a single dime. On anything. And Gingrich's, well that wouldn't even be possible.
Actually, this is also incomplete (again)....Ron Paul is the ONLY...(i repeat) ONLY one who has the plan....yank'em out....just like we jumped in...jump out! False wars...not justified....not our problem....get out just as quickly as we went in....There is nothing to pay for anymore...clever Ron....Why doesnt Obama, Romney, Santorum,or Gingrich see this???Oh right...they're just filthy politicians that are just playing politics with our lives....Anyway...my point...if we end these wars...then we dont have to pay for them...The Ron Paul way!
Hmm lets see....healthcare...its not the healthcare sysytem that is flawed....it is the lobbyists that work with Obama, and Romney, and Gingrich and Santorum....that bribe them to keep laws in place that charge $400.00 per pill to elderly people, or keep laws in place that allow FDA to "determine" what is allowed in treatments (i.e chemo for cancer), but then disallow research into other alternatives (that work better, but is less profitable for Pharma) .....if there were competition....(which is what we need) then they would bring those $400.00 pills down to $2.00 and the elderly would be able to keep their homes,...instead of having to sell their homes to pay for medical bills! I agree we can do more.....but these 4 guys (Obama, Romney, Santorum and Gingirch) are ALL paid by Pharma.....they wont do anything that will hurt Pharma....and Pharma wont do anything that will help the people...Have you noticed in the last 10 years or so....almost everykid is diagnosed with some disorder (ADHD for example) Children now account for 20% of all prescription medication!!!!
Vote for someone who cares...who has the right ideas (by the way that is why the establishment doesnt like him) RON PAUL!
Mg,
I couldn't agree more and I've been saying this for a long, long, time on this vine. You're 100% correct there.
I did leave Ron Paul out, for a reason, he's not a Republican. I have no idea why he runs as one. I have a lot of respect for Ron Paul, but I think his view of the world is way too black and white/simplistic. In a perfect world, where human greed and corruption doesn't exist, he'd be a great POTUS.
Unfortunately we're not there yet.
A word of advice, leave off the drama if you really want to promote Paul as a candidate. Over blown rhetoric about impeachment and Marxism just makes you look paranoid.
mqira
Well when Fox News and every Republican media source leaves him out, and no one talks about him... what do you expect?
Can you imagine the GOP aneurism that would occur if Ron Paul won? Hannity would have an actual stroke on live television... which would actually be quite entertaining.
But seriously, look at his social platform (most of which I agree with)... the Republicans would literally flip the f*** out. They would go crazy. The firestorm that would ensue would make their Obama talk look like playful banter. There is no way in hell that Republicans will ever, Ever, EVER support Ron Paul.
It was actually Buddy Roehmer, NOT Ron Paul, who was the only candidate to run on an anti-lobbyist platform. I happen to agree with that, but just like Ron Paul, the rest of the GOP ignored him.
Furthermore, donating to charity is not the same as paying taxes. One is a choice you make to fulfill some innate desire to feel good about yourself, the other is a necessary contribution to your society which YOU ALSO BENEFIT FROM.
I'm so sick of people whining about paying their taxes. Life is pay to play, deal with it. You elect the people who write the tax code. You get a say. You live in, yes a flawed nation, but still a damn good one. Cease your crying and pay your damn taxes.
I have no problem paying taxes and am not whining about it....BUT there are differences. We are taxed from EVERY which way possible. Income tax is not needed and only another way to cyphon money from people. From tarrifs to taxes, import and export...etc we are taxed. So NO income tax is not needed. My family came from a country where Marxism studied and even implemented....and amazingly it is very much like Obama...of course not everything.....I dont think they took as many vacations!!!
mqira
Bwahahahahahaha.... you LIAR
You do NOT donate because you "believe in that"... you do it for the TAX WRITE-OFF.
You expect me, or anyone else, to believe that ANY Republican donates out of the kindness of their heart? Hahahahahaha. Please, spare me the comedy.
Remove the tax write-off for donations, and let's see just how "charitable" you, and every Republican, really are.
MG,
Yes, you do whine about taxes. You're doing it right here, right now. You may be comfortable cutting our government down to the bare bones, but those of us who understand LIFE, know that if we were to do that we'd end up in something akin to Somalia.
That's what happens when there is no central, strong government.
It's not about too big, or too little, too much spending or too many taxes, it's about how we spend and how we tax, and what we do with the government we have.
You're making it way too simple to ever really work.
I am glad you agree....however still baffled by why people dont vote on principle....I do and will. You say we arent there yet....(i do somwhat agree...)I think we arent there yet, because people are still naive and fall victim to what they're told to do (via MSM) Anyway...i cannot vote for anyone who i think is wrong for this country, and i think they all are, except for Ron...I cant do the "lesser of the evil"...
Its part drama and part typing quickly (while at work), however it is not drama without belief....I do feel that Obama is a threat to this country, because the laws that he has passed ( he signed them into law) restrict our freedoms, and limit our voice....without that we are no diferent than Pakistand or Iran!!!! Its not paranoid....it is what is happening..albeit slowly and under the radar. I talk about this alot, and was surprised that not 1 of my friends were aware of these laws. It not something to take lightly...My children will grow up in a country that is NOT free as it claims to be! So maybe i type on emotion....but i believe it is serious!
Oh, I believe, you believe. I will give Ron Paul people the conviction of belief award.
I think to be successful at changing the system, in today's day and age, we need to work with it. Change will come, there are 28 Constitutional Amendments being written that would ban money from politics. That's a huge, imperative, first step.
I think the basic structure of what we have works, I'm not for tearing it down and needlessly rebuilding. One fine tune and tweak at a time, that's how things get done. At least that's how they're done without violence.
As things pertain to NDAA, well we lost our damn minds on 9/11, but that's not unprecedented. The alien/sedition acts, internment camps, Lincoln even put a hold on due process. We will eventually move away from things like the Patriot Act and regain our sanity. We just need to be aware and make our voices heard. It's already happening, and it will start to happen faster.
Just to explain....i dont get a tax writoff.....because i dont own my home...i rent, I dont itemize, i use the standard deduction, because that is the just the way my income taxes are... I am not rich, i am not wealthy, however, my wife and I care, and because of that we do donate. We also help out at soup kitchens, near us in Paterson NJ.....I wouldnt expect you to understand that people, whether democrat or republican, are still people......I wouldnt expect you to understand that! But for the record, yes we do donate. We donate money, and we donate time....not for anything in return....It was my wife who turned me on to it, and having children made me really understand the need for it.....So while you sit behind a computer to bash people because you cant comprehend compassion.....you should understand that people are people, regardless of the party they are affiliated with.
Wrong.....we are "OVER" taxed....it is not whining, it is pointing out the facts.....You believe that we would be like Somalia??? Thats nuts....I am not saying we dont need tax....I know we need taxes....but "INCOME" tax is not needed! But they wont tell you that....Why would they?
There would still be a central gov't and it worked before!!!!!
SORRY, I forgot to give a shout out to Kaybeetoys for those kind words. Thank you very much.
Historical note, when I first started blogging here I was sucked into the dark side vortex along with everybody else. I swear I could make the RWNJ's cry.
But then it came to me one day, this is not helping. All this negativity is only fueling the toxicity of our political system. We're not going to change their minds and all this vitriol is probably turning some reasonable folks off.
So, I changed my tune.
I resist name-calling and I do not engage (except on extremely rare occasions) the RWNJ's. I think most of them are trolls anyway. In fact, I have most of them on "ignore" and don't waste my time reading what they have to say and I'm pretty sure they have reciprocated and we're all happier for it.
I choose not to listen to Rush Limbaugh or Fox News. Why should I read the nonsense their ditto-head zombies post on this thread? So, I don't.
I come here and read the news, if there is something worthy of comment, I comment. But I try not to make personal attacks on other bloggers and I try to make my comments palatable to a PG-13 audience.
Violence and Crudity are the refuge of a weak mind and limited vocabulary.
I usually get quite a few "likes" and every now and then somebody says something nice about my commentary.
That makes me think that I'm doing a good job and maybe, just maybe, my strategy is working.
So thank you for your kind words.
I think it's important to remember, that at the end of the day we are ALL Americans. We're all sailing in the same boat and we've got to figure out how to deal with our problems without sinking the ship.
Have a great weekend everybody, I've got a case of Negra Modelo cooling in the fridge and I'm looking forward to a lovely Spring weekend drinking Mexican beer and playing with my three dogs.
I hope yours is just as enjoyable however you choose to enjoy it.
Obama/Biden 2012
MG,
I think income tax is needed. Look at our revenue situation right now. Income tax is only not needed if you leave things like defence, public safety, utilities, infrastructure, education, research/development, yada, yada, yada, all in the hands of private corporations. In which case, how would we as private citizens pay for them? Pool our money? How is that different from a tax?
Either way, if you want things like roads, medicine, electricity, education, we have to pay. I'm more comfortable getting money out of politics and leaving those things in the hands of my government. After all, they are elected by me, and government sole reason for existing is nothing more than a social contract, as opposed to private corporations which exist for the sole purpose of making their owners rich.
One has a motivation to screw me over, the other (if we remove money from it) does not.
Sarah is right, moving everything to private businesses would attribute a higher cost for everything. Look at private schools compared to public... my mother works for a private school that costs $40,000 per year to attend, and that's ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. Ya, 40 grand to send an 8 year old to school. How many people can afford that?
What happens to the military and police when it moves private? Suddenly we are in a mafia shake-down situation. You want police protection, you pay the police... if you don't pay, "maybe something happens to your house or family. You never know, accidents happen. Capiche?"
What about roads and traffic lights. Do you like toll roads? Great, now every road gets turned into a toll road. Turn the corner, new toll. What's to stop them from raising the price any time they want? "Hey, you don't like the toll? You can walk."
Republicans don't want to pay for the healthcare of anyone else. What did they say? Oh ya... "let them die". So what happens when half the country can not afford health care? They walk around sick, spreading disease. Does a disease care how much money you have? Hell no. So now we are in a situation where half the country is persistently sick, spreading disease to the healthy class. Then Fox News will start talking about the "poor" forcing their sickness on us... and how they, and their children, should not be subjected to this force. "It's not fair, just because someone else makes a bad lifestyle decision does not mean we all should be subjected to their sickness." So how do you protect your family from the half that are always sick? Quarantine camps? Wall off whole states to separate the sickly poor from the affluent rich?
And welfare... shall we just cut welfare spending and rely on the "goodness of people"? HA! You think people will fully support those in need, when it is optional? Don't make me laugh. Republicans already view those on welfare as lazy, they don't want to help at all. So what happens when we cut that? What happens when millions of families go hungry? What happens when millions of fathers need to feed their children? It's called human nature. People will go to extreme's to save their families. Do you really want the anarchy that will result?
Or the EPA... Republicans want to abolish that. Corporations have already proven, throughout history, that they will pollute the f*** out of everything, if it means a few extra bucks in their pocket. Do you want to live in a world where all water-ways turn into rivers of fire and poison? Do you want to live in a world where you need a gas mask to leave the house, because the air is toxic with pollutants? But hey, god forbid we regulate and require businesses to actual be responsible with their pollutants.
The point is that we NEED these things to maintain a civilized society. Is there waste? Yes. But gutting every government program is not the answer. Your income tax is required to maintain society. Remove it, gut the government, privatize everything, remove all regulations... and we are looking at a f***ed up future.
Item #1-I think that everyone missed the entire point of Santorum's comment, and unfortunately, the comment was ill considered and subject to misunderstanding as is proved by the pages and pages of ridicule and gloat being devoted to it. I perceive that the man was trying to be topical, and as the whole Etch A Sketch thing has been bandied about in the news, and now everyone, including children who have never seen one, because their Ipod now does it for them....knows what one is and how it works.....that aside-The man was trying to make the point that in the instance of Mr Romney, we are probably better off with the "devil we know" rather than shadow boxing with somebody that can represent one side and take a totally opposite side when push comes to shove. He was making an analogy using something topical in the present media coverage of the election process and it was a poor choice.
Item #2- Stop making generalizations that simply cannot be supported....I contribute money, goods and time to multiple community and charitable concerns and not for the tax write offs, because I don't earn enough to write off, but because I do earn enough to realize that there are people out there who have it worse than I.......Stop measuring people by your own standards. If you want a pat on the back for all your charitable contributions and good works, I will be happy to supply it, and if you want to take a tax write off allowed by law, then by all means do so....but DO NOT assume that everyone else in this nation shares the same motivations.
Item #3 It occurs to me that the primary difference between liberals and conservatives goes back to some very old historical philosphies by Locke and Rousseau-the debate to determine if the nature of humanity is basically good or basically evil. What is really funny about this is that the liberals feel that everyone is basically bad, basically going to cheat, steal, lie, harm unless there is this huge, all encompassing government to mandate that we all behave ourselves and mountains of legislation to insure that we do, controlling the most miniscule aspects of daily life. Conservatives feel that once people can meet their needs, they will share their bounty and help others along to achieve for themselves, so less government and policing is necessary to get people to do the right thing, but rather to reward them for their effort and encourage them to keep going in those directions. Liberal thought is punative-take things away, restrict things, all in the name of protection. What is the most confusing part of this ideology is that while conservatives have to fully believe the good of humanity and that it can continue to grow, learn, improve-and everyone can prosper, the liberals seem to feel that everyone is bad-everyone else but themselves. Somehow a liberal exists above the condition of humanity and hence is able to see all the evil and point out how somebody else is responsible-they never see themselves by the same definitions that they ascribe to others.
Sue
History PROVES you wrong.
When the businesses of the 1900's had no regulations, but were making money, did they do the "right thing"? Remember the robber barons? Remember The Jungle? Child labor?
When plantation owners had MORE than their "needs" met, did they do the "right thing"? Is slavery the "right thing"?
Before the EPA began regulating pollution, were businesses doing the "right thing"? Remember air quality in 1950? Remember the towns where 80% of the population developed cancer because a refinery was dumping waste into the local river?
When conservatives call EVERYONE on welfare "lazy drug addicts", do you honestly think these hateful conservatives will help anyone? Remember the crash in 2008 where millions lost their jobs? So working for 20 years, then getting laid off, suddenly makes you a "lazy drug addict"? Is that the "right way" to view people?
When conservatives yell "LET HIM DIE" in a Republican debate, you consider them "good people"? You consider that action as "helping someone"? Conservatives yelled "LET HIM DIE"... THAT is what they believe... THAT is how they think... and you consider that "good". (I have the link for video proof if you need it)
Conservatives assume every woman on birth control is a "slut", every welfare recipient is a "drug user", every liberal is "unemployed"... and you think this believe means that conservatives see the "good in people"? How are any of those views "good"?
Look at how conservatives view homosexuals, or Muslims... you think that is "good"? You think the way conservatives treat those two groups is "good"?
Listen, Sue. You can tell yourself whatever LIE you want, to make yourself feel better about being a conservative... but the TRUTH proves you wrong. Look around, all the evidence is here. Conservatives do not, have not, and will not EVER care about anyone but themselves. Show me one policy... one GOD DAMN POLICY... that shows conservatives caring about anyone but themselves. I dare you.
Sue-
Your item #3 is so overly simplistic it's sickening. Liberals do not feel that everyone is bad, they merely acknowledge the reality that there are bad people--or at least, people who want to do bad things--and that the rest of society should be protected from them. They feel that people with power (political, authoritative, or economic) must be met with safeguards against the abuse of that power. In short, they deal with the world as it really is, not the world they wish existed.
Sarah-3043284
MG,
I think income tax is needed. Look at our revenue situation right now. Income tax is only not needed if you leave things like defence, public safety, utilities, infrastructure, education, research/development, yada, yada, yada, all in the hands of private corporations. In which case, how would we as private citizens pay for them? Pool our money? How is that different from a tax?
Sarah
Guess its how you look at it.....You seem to believe the gov't is doing a good job...i think they are doing a horrible job.......you seem to think that the gov't should be the ones responsible for everything, i think business would handle them better. To clarify, you mentioned a few things....like public safety....isnt that a states issue,....not a federal one? as for research and develpment....i think they hinder it...i mean (as i stated before) The FDA doesnt allow for cancer research that actually works....only supporting the drugs that come to "assist" in treatment, or the National Cancer Institute that wont allow for funding to an individual (who has shown success rates better than hospitals) actually the head of the NCI claimes "he would not support an individual...only corporations"......lets see, education, (touchy subject) as Indie stated, he thought education left to private business would be worse than public education....well our public education has let almost every other country with better education system than the US....And just a few weeks ago, my sister in law's little brother was taught in economics (in public school) that Obama's ecomonic plan was one of the best in history???? Hmmm...what are they teaching kids, besides lies? As for roads, etc....tolls, gas taxes seem to be a way to go! What i am saying is everything is being taxed already, and we are paying for it....NO NEED for the income tax!
As a bonus....people would spend more, if they had more, and more money would mean more money into the economy....and eventually recovery!
We could also end these wars....and save trillions....But Cheney would be upset!
mqira
I did not say it was better, I said that private education will charge so much that only the affluent will receive an education. So we will end up with an even LARGER uneducated population.
You also have to consider the greed factor... private education is a BUSINESS, meaning the #1 priority is profits, not education. I know of this first hand. Rich parents do, and will continue to, buy the grades for their parents. You would be shocked how many private school owners approach teachers with the directive that Billy gets a "A", no matter what... why? Because mommy and daddy just donated a fat million to the school.
Once again, leading us down the road of the rich getting more and the poor getting less.
Santorum is proof that even a blind squirel finds a nut once in a while. "I will win in Illinois" miss. " Porn is bad" miss. "Birth control is bad" miss. " I have a good economic plan" miss. "Obama is better than Romney" HIT!
ROFL, and Rick thinks that a far-right religious fanatic would be any more electable?
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the new republican dream
work harder for less and if you kiss the right monied a$$, you can get paid well.
Rick, you need to shut up and get out of the race. You sound like an idiot.
Ha I think Rick now has to go to some kind of republican confessional, I think he just committed blasphemy. I give him 5 Hail Romneys and 5 Reagan Our Fathers for his penance. Ha this is big fun WCA watching republicans campaign for Obama!
What do you know...WCA, we agree on that point!
Wow... WCA something we can agree on. Keep it coming :)
...and loving it!
I most definitely agree. What an idiot to make a statement like that. My respect for Santorium just went in the toilet. What a horrible thing to say, just goes to show how much of a sore loser he is.
In an odd way I see Santorum's point----if the real Romney is just like President Obama, why would you start with a new President when you already have someone carrying out those policies. Why settle if you thought you could elect someone who would be true to the principles you believe in.
TO: White Collar Auto who wrote:
You can't blame Rick Santorum for telling the truth.
Obama / Biden 2012
White Collar Auto
Don't be disrespecting my candidate! He's the man... until the general election, anyway.
He has my fullest support. I hope he runs all the way to Miami.
I was going to support Newt, but even conservatives don't. Santorum has the evangelicals, so I am forced to support him.
So, until the fall, leave my man Santorum alone! Then toss him under a bus.
Obama/Biden 2012
If Santorum isn't on President Obama's payroll, he should at least receive a nice thank you card. The way ol' Rick is hacking away at Mitt, by the time the GOP primary race is over, there won't be enough left of Romney to run against the president in the general election!
President Obama by default in November! America is holding an election and the Republican Party isn't planning on showing up!
Maybe this is why he lost his Senatorial re-election bid in PA by 18 percentage points and allowed the first Democratic senator from the state elected to a full term since 1962
On considering the situation further, I think you're right, Bosslimo.
We need Icky Sanitorium to stay in the race and continue to work to re-elect President Obama.
God must have spoken to him. Hallelujah!! :)
Rick Santorum is politically killed himself. He and the sexist cheater, Gingrich should just pack it up now!
WCA--Best post I've read so far! Santorum and Gingrich both need to call it a day!
Wow!! I can't believe it but I actually agree with some of you libs. Yup, Santorum is done. On the other hand, the people of this country will not be sidetracked by silly "etch a sketch" chants from the libbies and obumbo will go down in flames by Romney. obumbo is a failed Pres and ya know it or you wouldn't be so defensive!!
At least Santorum speaks the truth
UNLIKE Mr. FLIP FLOP, Etch a Sketch Romnut
White Collar Auto Worker
It's Mr. FLIP FLOP Rom-nut that needs to SHUT UP and get out of the race
At least Rick S. speaks the truth and you know where you stand with the guy UNLIKE Mr. FLIP FLOP who you never know when he is pandering or outright lying
All this lame name calling. So mature....
Who is being defensive, usa1967?
Santorum's endorsement of Obama over Romney is the first sensible statement he's made on the campaign trail. At least he says what he really thinks, unlike Mr. Flip-Flop.
Your far-right conservative candidate Santorum--the true conservative--who has been giving Romney a run for his money turns on your ABO party, and you call Obama supporters 'defensive'?
You are badly in need of a dictionary, my friend.
defensive? LMAO! Talk about a classic POT MEET KETTLE moment!
It's enlightening that when the GOP turns on its own pack, people like usa1967 still blame "libbies".
Just proof that they don't really know who stands for what (which explains a lot about why they just pick out the little "R's" on the ballot).
Steeler Fan-380417
For one big reason...replacing Supreme Court Justices
ha ha ha....and now we have "belongs in a" Sanitorium endorsing the President....way deep down inside, all these clowns know they don't stand a chance against President Obama....and if you listen really close, they sometimes let it slip.
Obaahhhma 2012!
Hush, the conservatives don't realize it yet.
The GOP has to put on a good show and give the illusion that they care. They aren't really in it to win it.
You see, they are driving the conservatives as far right as they can so the moderate position will be tilted right.
Just look at the war on women, for instance. The caveman mentality is extreme right. Even Paul Ryan is dusting off his Medikill Bill and republishing it. All the support they give Rush on his vitriol. Taking away freedom of collective bargaining, freedom of speech (barring Fluke from debate), freedom to choose (abortion), and banning equal rights (see “stand your ground” law).
Then, in 2016, the repuiblicans will be moderate, only cutting a few benefits or a few rights.
The rhetoric around here is astounding. There is no GOP war on women and there is no democratic war on christianity. You are all listening to blitheringly stupid political BS and lapping it up like a dehydrated dog. The only reason Obama hasn't said anything stupid yet (like Ricky and Mitt) is that he hasn't actually started running yet and won't until the republican convention is over.
If little Ricky was to win the nomination (I know, but just stick with me for a minute) you would see him move toward the center for the general election campaign too. And if Obama actually had to seek the democratic nomination you would currently see him pandering to the radical progressives of his party and then move back to the center for the general election. Playing to the fringe is the only way you win the nomination and playing to the center is the only way you win the general election.
The only stupid thing Romney's advisor did was tell the truth about what every presidential candidate has done for the last 20 years.
joemike, I agree that there is no Democratic war on Christianity.
But what do you call the bills in Arizona (tell your boss why you need contraceptives), Texas (vaginal ultrasounds are the law and 300,000 women have lost access to healthcare) Pennsylvania and Virginia (ultrasound required for an abortion), the attempt in Mississippi to pass a 'personhood law', and the laws of other states that restrict women's rights?
What do you call Rush Limbaugh's attack on a private citizen who testified before congress?
I think it is impossible for some men to recognize the second-class status of American women. Open your eyes and don't be one of them. The women in your life deserve your full support.
joemike404 - AMEN and AMEN....
Sarah, a$$juice?. C'mon, try Ayatollah Santorumeni. Descibes his true intent.
So let me get this straight, if Romney is the candidate. Rick Santorum wants his followers to support Obama? Sounds good to me.
Obama/Romney 2012
There will be no shaking and resetting" for the general election, Mitt. Your every pander to the far-right wing of your far-right party will be brought forth and shared with independents, women, Hispanics, and young people. I think you got trouble, pal! Well, as much trouble as a guy with millions to consol himself can have.
When Mitt loses, he'll go home to Malibu...or maybe Massachusetts for the holidays...or maybe he'll fly off in his private jet to some tropical isle where he'll roll around in his cash like Scrooge McDuck. He'll cry into his flute of pricey champagne and play with his diamond-encrusted Etch-a-Sketch.
I won't be shedding a tear for him.
It's one thing to take billionaire-backer Foster (aspirin-between-her-knees) Freiss' money, and another to take him on the road. His tasteless joke was an embarrassment to the campaign, but I guess a few million bucks buys a bus ticket. Wonder what else it would buy if Santorum were ever elected...
Not nearly as much as what Obama has given George Soros.
How much was that, Bob?
Can you provide links?
I have never seen Ol Bob provide links, he just spews his made up stuff.
Way to go Bob you've done it again.
I think Bob's "link" is those voices in his head. They tell him what he wants to believe and then he believes.
[I have never seen Ol Bob provide links...]
He doesn't need to...he has V(aginal)P(robe) Mcdonnell in his corner...
Old Bob just joined. He's nothing but a paid troll. Who ever is paying him is getting ripped off. Begone troll!
Or as Bill Maher calls it........... Dispatches from the bubble.
I swear you can read these idiots like a book!
@ Bob "Missing Link"
Do you have things twirling around in your head?
Ask 999 for an aspirin.
I agree with Joe Mike--Eric Fehnstrom is stupid, but so is Mitt the lucky sperm candidate.
"SAN ANTONIO, TX -- Rick Santorum today suggested it would be better to stick with President Obama"...so says Ricky!
...and I couldn't agree more. Thanks!
Both Romney and Santorium want to be Wall Street Presidents!!! not good for America in any shape, form or fashion.
However, I do agree with Santorium- although his messages are wild and out of touch, he is consistant.
Romney on the other hand - is an etch - a sketch type of guy. Review his record!
Whenever, I see Romney on TV - he will say whatever is in play at the particular venue - it's not Santorium fault; that Romney has no consistant message.
What republican would want someone like that?
Newt Gingricth seems to be the only sensible person in the entire bunch - but the republican base don't like him; because he won't kiss their asses...LOL.
Let just go ahead and say hello President Obama; what on your agenda for the next 4 years!!!!
TRUTH - not crap
Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
We already have the Wall Street President. Who receives the biggest contributions from Wall Street, who bails out the Wall Streeters (and everybody else for that matter), who talks big about hedge fund managers paying 15% tax rate but does not legislate a removal of the "carried interest" loophole? Give me a BARACK, give me an OBAMA!!!
Conservatives don't like Newt because he is a big government Washington insider Republican just like Rick Santorum.
What does Obama have on the agenda for the next 4 years? America's bankruptcy - if the public is stupid enough to elect him again.
DISPATCHES FROM THE BUBBLE........
Let's not play fast and loose with the truth, Celtics. Wall Street was bailed out by Dubbya.
Fast and loose with the truth? How Democrat of him!
Boy, it's time for Santorum to grow up and get out of the race. He is starting to sound like a hypentilating two year old.
Now you know why Pennsylvanians chased him out of office.
Santorum did absolutely nothing for Pennsylvania and that is the same thing he will do for America -- NOTHING! If elected he will hide in the White House and play with his kids. He better pick a good VP because that is who will be running the country.
Teacher~I agree, most Pennsylvanians I know despise him and he finally stated something I knew all along....that Obama is the better choice over any Repub.
Also, don't think we'll have to worry about him picking a VP cause he won't get the chance!
Obama/Biden 2012!
Leave Santorum alone, Three stooges sounds better than two stooges.
Teacher #8.2
I dunno... last time we let a Vice President run the country (not because the President was playing with his kids, he was busy "clearing brush" on his Texas ranch 7 months of each year) we ended up in Iraq and Afghanistan.
And broke.
Thank you, Mr. Santorum, and we look forward to your support in November!
Heck, an etch-a-sketch is better than Romney, Santorum, Gingrich, and Paul combined.
Obama/Biden "12"
Wow, if true This has to be the most pathetic thing I have heard this primary season.
And likely it is true because I can find nothing of it on the FOX news page...therefore they are freaking out now.
I have a hard time wrapping my head around a guy that 4 years ago enthusiastically endorsed a candidate as the conservative choice, a candidate who had already been researched (vetted) one would assume by Mr Santorum. Now for the last several months we have heard Santorum call Romney just about everything in the book...from liberal to whatever. I assumed everyone assumed he just wanted the job now and Romney was in his way so of course he would say whatever he could despite his past record of support. But one thing has always stayed constant with all of these candidates through this entire process, the common theme of removing the current person in the white house. Now I hear that Mr Santorum has sunk so low as to actually intimate that if he cant win the country would be better off with the current Pres??? and he has called himself the moral conservative voice of America...sounds more like take my toys and go home...sounds like the guy that endorsed Specter...in fact it sounds a bit like Specter...wow
Fox must be trying to spin like crazy because I do know that they will not agree with that statement...
not sure what else to say here, I have not had a lot of respect for Santorum over the last couple months but I still thought he was a good man...pretty Whinny but basically good...honestly this makes me sad.
At least when Romney responded to this he didn't do so with a toy or prop, he said he was shocked and felt that ANY of the 4 republicans would be far better for our nation than what we have now.
stunned
Mr Buckeye-Romney s statement alone should disqualify him from the presidency!
Hey Republicans, so if Santorum is not the Rep. nominee you know who to vote for if you were going for Santorum, he's telling you to vote for Obama not Romney. Now that is the most intelligent thing to come out of his mouth since his campaign.
Wow, anybody else agree that its time for Rick to go home...maybe Specter can help him with his next campaign running against Romney for President in 4 years....as a Demo.
we'll take his vote, but thats all. Nobody wants this guy running on our side. He's a bible thumping whacko ticking time bomb who would, given the chance, explode and take us back to the dark ages. Sex is only for procreation??? College is for snobs?? Birth control is immoral?? Gays are second class citizens???
I bet he and Kirk Cameron have little boy humping parties.
More reasons he needs to change his name to the Ayatollah Santorumeni.
With Santorum's chances fading fast, I'm becoming real sad thinking about how America will have to put up with contraceptives for at least four more years. Santorum was our best hope for using the power of the federal government to crack down on Americans' immoral behavior. Of course, Santorum also stands for small, limited government. So sad.
Since when did it become the government's place to interfere in the lives of its citizens? Since when does the government get to decide whether or not I can or should have children? Do you really mean to tell us all that you fully support Federal money being spent to care for and provide for all these children that will be born if you take away contraception? Really?
How is it possible for a government to be "small and limited" when it is insinuating itself into the daily lives of its citizens?
Explain to me how the government mandating what medications I can take for what reasons is in any way not a violation of my Constitutional rights?
Explain to me how the government mandating what church I go to is in any way not a violation of my Constitutional rights?
Explain to me how the government telling me what to do or not to do under any circumstances is not a huge violation of my Constitutional rights?
I thought the CONservative RepubliCONs wanted the government to stay out of citizens lives! I thought the Greedy Obstructionist Party wanted the federal government to have limited ability to interfere in citizens lives!
Are you now trying to tell us all that you think the government ought to be Big Brother, or did you just forget yourself and let your real agenda slip out?
The Greedy Obstructionist Party only wants to do one thing: Divide the American people, and take control of the nation by giving the uninformed masses a target on which to blame their problems. The target is the other party. The GOP is only interested telling you who is to blame for your problems, and making you afraid of them. That’s how they win elections. They gather together a group of middle-aged, middle-class, middle-income voters who remember with longing what they think was an easier time, and they talk to them about family, morality, and American values. They tell these people that there are problems, and the other party is responsible for them. Problem is, they don’t offer any real solutions, because they don’t have any to offer.
Evil Tessmacher~Very well said!!! Applause, applause!
Obama/Biden 2012!
@Evil
Zorro was being sarcastic.
Yeah, how dare someone try to make a point based on Family, Morality, and American Values. That's just stupid
SC...the problem with the GOP making any points based on morality and family values is that it's blatantly hollow hypocrisy, coming from them.
Who controls the U.S.? Big business, corporate interests, the wealthy 1% and their lobbyists.
The only political power the poor and middle class majority has is the power of their individual votes, which the GOP is trying their best to take away.
The GOP uses fear and propaganda to control the citizenry. The GOP is bought and paid for by multi-national corporations which have shipped our jobs overseas and turned American workers into low-paid serfs.
The NRA has more power than any elected official.
Our healthcare system is strangling small business owners and hurting our competitiveness on the world stage.
All this has been accomplished with the collision of the GOP.
What was your point about 'family values' again?
Jeez, subtlety, sarcasm, and innuendo is surely wasted on this crowd. Please wipe the foam off your mouth and pay attention. And I mean that for both extremes.
Zorro, Your guy just endorsed Obama.
Well, that's good enough for me. I guess I'll vote for Obama (again).
Zorro,
The problem with using sarcasm on here is that it is difficult to tell the difference between sarcasm and what some people believe is honest to god fact and truth.
Your comment "Santorum was our best hope for using the power of the federal government to crack down on Americans' immoral behavior. Of course, Santorum also stands for small, limited government. So sad." is something that could quite easily have been said by many of the teabag GOPers posting here. I don't come here often enough to know your position on these issues, so was unable to tell if you were serious or being subtle - and subtlety is lost on the right wingers.
Marxist States of America huh
Sigh...just another troll. You little fellows are out in force today aren't you. Begone troll.
cause thats where we are headed with the current bus driver
I might worry if you provided any evidence to back that up.
in 08 Romney stepped out of the race with class when it was apparent that he couldn't win, that move gave him the credibility to run this year...Santorum if he ever wants to be more than a punchline needs to do that rather than try to burn down the house if he cant be the top dog.
In 2012, will Romney show the same 'class'? It's apparent to me that he can't win.
Rick Santorum better have another career handy. He just commited political suicide.
Sanitarium is probably being paid under the table by an O'Bummer Super Pac and will have a real cushy job in the O'Bummer administration if he is re-elected. - Anything to destroy the the party he supposedly loves and represents. Or is he really that DUMB? The answer is yes!!
Santorum
: GOP better off with Obama than 'Etch A Sketch' Republican
Rommy reply
: GOP better off with Obama than 'Etch A Sketch' Republican.
Now Republiocans can kiss both ass..
I dont understand any of the Ruplicans. They all say Obama is bad but if they look at their record right now in Senate and Congress, what have they done? NOTHING, prevent jobs from being created to try and make Obama look bad. Other wise they wouldnt have a chance at getting a GOP elected President. GOP stands for Grossly overrated Politcians.
If every election, almost, was based on popular vote for President, the only Republican president we would have had in the last 40 years would be Reagan. We are now in the 21st century isnt it time to really become a democratic society where the most popular person actually wins the race. Why should one states votes actually determine what the country as a whole wants? Let the majority decide. On election day the press cant give numbers until the whole country has voted. We wake up November 7th and find out who are next president is. Isnt that what Bush wanted in Iraq? It's time to work together and make this country strong again.
Ricky already has a thriving career as a conservative lobbyist. Just like Sarah Palin, he will be able to sell books and bilk a lot of yahoos out of their money.
Who knows...maybe Ricky will travel the country in a big bus and even have his own reality show! His daughters can go on DWTS.
Don't worry about Ricky. If all else fails, he can run for Pope.
Or become the next Ayatollah.
yea....he's the real chameleon...hard to listen to the guy
I don't mind chameleons, they seem to disappear.
On the other hand, newts live under rocks and in rotting wood, and they are slimy.
The etch-a-scetch comment is surprisingly accurate. It is rare to see such candor in a political election, therefore Romney had no choice but to fire his aide. When people say Romney has no core, the truth shines through. Romney, Santorum, Gingrich, and Paul how sad for my Country. I suffer from a fear of full-grown men in clown suits, this has been a terrifying primary
War syndrome P.T.S.D to be exact
Santorum, you finally hit the nail on the head! Boy, we, the American People, are proud of you! You finally made a true statement that we have been trying to tell you to understand! Now, all you have to do is change partys and join us & our President against corporate political corruption! We want DEMOCRACY, we're tired of HYPOCRISY! Corporate has taken from the American People, the very ones that made them successful and all because of uncontrollable GREED! We've had enough of BUSINESS MEN like ROMNEY, WHO ARE USELESS TO THE 99% AMERICANS!! His kind only care about their GREED, nothing more, nothing less!
The Mex. Republican Corporate "etch-a-sketch" Puppet needs to go to Mexico and preach his lies to his people! We, the 99% American People, don't want to hear it!
Go back to your origin where you belong! We don't want you!
misterbuckeye- santorum hit the nail on the head. The concern all along with the Republican base is the authenticity of Romney- its not what he says its what he said yesterday or last week that contradicts what he says today. Then to compare resetting the election to an etch a sketch re raises all your concerns on being true to his beliefs. With Obama you know what you got. Vote for the candidate that believes in what he says not in what he thinks you want to hear.
Obama/Biden 2012
Problem is he believes it Re Creating the US as a socialist nation....The problem has never been in what Romney says, its been in what the MSM "says" he says. They put their "spin on everything. Go back to 08 His message has been the same...Santorum has flopped on a few things. like Romney's conservatism...he is he isnt...people get too hung up on labels. his message is that of a moderate not hard line conservative.
Rose, the only thing we have not had for quite a while IS a successful businessman in the white house...we do need this country to work more like a successful business, a never ending team of politicians from BOTH the Donkey and Elephant teams just fight...we need something different, and he is the only one that is different from the other career politicos.
The founding fathers never intended this country to be run by a few career politicos, the intent was smart successful Doctor's, Businessmen, Farmers yes even lawyers...do do their duty and then go back to their lives. Seems like Romney fits that mold better than most. He wont need his 450K for life like all the others...he just wants to solve problems and move on.
Think about it...or dont
I dont need a paxil ...but if someone would pass the Tylenol I'd appreciate it.
"people get too hung up on labels."
Yeah, like calling the president a socialist.
misterbuckeye - You put into words my thoughts exactly!! I could have not said it any better myself - especially your last paragraph about the founding fathers. Thank you for your comment.
"The founding fathers never intended this country to be run by a few career politicos"
Are you sure? After all, the founding fathers WERE a few career politicos.
Businesses need both leaders and managers to succeed. Romney may be an effective manager, but simply he is not a leader. Managers are dedicated to extending the status quo. Managers do not innovate and inspire change.
The United States is not like any other business that Romney has run, and he would need a whole new bag of tricks (again, leadership not management) to be successful. Henceforth, Romney is not the best choice for POTUS in 2012.
Mr. Romney is a career politician, and has been since he left the world of finance to become governor of Massachusetts. He's been running for one office or another ever since. His problem is he simply has been unable to win any.
Sorry, Mr Buckeye I am not willing to give up just to elect a businessman. No he won't need 45K and his money will remain overseas but Wall street will get it.
Is it ok as a business man to pick and chose winner and losers as Bain Capital did? There were some business that weren't so lucky and when the dust settled those companies were raided and because pensions were federally guaranteed the tax payers paid for that raid.
President Obama a socialist? He is actually to the right of Richard Nixon.
Business men, farmers . lawyers and even slave owners.
Charles - Obama is just like Nixon to be sure. Both love to circumvent and disregard the U.S. Constitution. And they love dirty politics.