"We have in the Democratic party TeaPeople..... who are consumed with giving more and more benefits to me and my generation"

Mittens needs to tell the truth about the income disparity, tax codes and his off-shore bank accounts. Millions in trusts for 'his' sons.

Indeed AnaB, indeed.

So why is it, given all the total fantastic-ness of which you speak the poor bastards are graduating with hundreds of thousands of debt?

So AnB, when you say they fund all that stuff, what exactly are you talking about?

Yeah all that great funding, and yet still the beneficiaries are kicking it in the parents' basement.

Romney was not speaking to the students, he was talking at them. Young people are smarter than that and they are not going to be deceived by Romney's nonsense. On the other hand, Santorum would never address college students because he thinks they are snobs.

Ah, the Republican Party. Losers one and all.

In other words AnaB Democrats are good at taking peoples earned money and giving it away.

But we're trillions of dollars in debt and these kids don't have a chance of getting a good job.

Yeah, who wouldn't want to vote for that?

"Look, let me tell you something,” Romney started. “If you’re looking for free stuff you don’t have to pay for? Vote for the other guy, that’s what he’s all about, O.K.? That’s not, that’s not what I’m about."

And that folks, is exactly why you should vote for Mitt Romney.

You think Romney "earned" all that money?

Really?

What about the part he got from cashing in workers' pension funds? Did he earn that?

Or the millions he got from Daddy? Earned?

The money he saved in taxes by stashing his cash in the Caymans? Is that earned?

Or the annual income he still gets every year from Bain Capital deferred gains - the result of selling off the assets of Bain-leveraged companies and buying Bain stock for himself? Did he earn that, too?

See, there's a difference between "work" and "earning" in this country.

White Collar Auto,

. . . and Mittens knows about free stuff since he took over $300 million of our tax dollars for Utah.

You think our gal AnaB, or any of the other libbies get that little nugget of economic wisdom WCA?

Somehow I suspect she does not. But damn, they sure are good at giving away money.

Oh well, what could go wrong. Shoot all you need to do is look at Cali - we are doomed. Revenue is literally circling the drain. Silly libbies in our state gov., just couldn't figure out that rich folk are mobile and can do a lot of things.

So now Cali has lost 1/2 of it's millionaires and Feb.'s tax income was off by millions.

It it's cool - like AnaB says they just keep giving it away.

Oh and damn, WCA but you nailed Fisker. You were a whole year ahead of the curve. And how funny is it that Toyota is going scoreboard on the POS Volt?

Hey Real Americans First - I don't suppose you'd care to enlighten us with your understanding of a deferred gain?

Come on, amuse us.

AnaB? So giving away money for student loans and all that other great stuff is good, but Olympics are bad?

What's the matter, not a big luge fan?

I think you might want to look at your "GUvernator" Schwarzenegger, Spanky.

Wasn't he in charge when CA started down the toilet?

Just like Bush was in control of the US.

What a coincidence!

President Obama began his tenure during the worst economic recession and highest unemployment since the Great Depression. The result was that tax revenues dropped drastically and spending increased ... for programs such as food stamps, unemployment compensation, aid to states to keep teachers, police officers and firefighters on the job. If that money had not been spent, that terrible recession would have become another Great Depression. Those that blame President Obama for the current debt problem are either willfully ignorant or intellectually challenged. Bias often causes flawed and irrational thinking.

Spanky - I don't have time to explain carried interest to you here. Go look it up.

(Psst - here's a hint - it means Mitt can not claim his Bain income until he spends it, and then he only pays 15% capital gains and NO payroll taxes. What a deal! Try that with your paycheck sometime.)

Spanky-

Indeed AnaB, indeed.

So why is it, given all the total fantastic-ness of which you speak the poor bastards are graduating with hundreds of thousands of debt?

So AnB, when you say they fund all that stuff, what exactly are you talking about?

Yeah all that great funding, and yet still the beneficiaries are kicking it in the parents' basement.

Yup, those are all excellent reasons to "NOT" vote republican so President Obama and the democrats finish what President Obama has done for them.

Republicans do a bang up job with the youth:

They hyped Anti-Obama Conspiracy Theories

Have A War On Unions

Give Economic Misinformation

Give Health Care Misinformation

Give Education Misinformation

Give environment And Climate Misinformation

Give Immigration Misinformation

Give National Security And Foreign Policy Misinformation

Attack LGBTs

Attack Muslims

See , Spanky the GOP Kept/keep millions unemployed.

The republicans have introduced:
46 bills on abortion
113 bills on religion
73 bills on family relations
36 bills on marriage
72 on firearms
604 bills on taxation
467 bills on government investigation
AND BLOCKED THE AMERICAN JOBS ACT.

http://ametia.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/gop-fail-chart.jpg?w=640

THEY also watered down the insider trading bill

The youth don't like/want the lies and repeal of the legislation President put in place. They want jobs just like everyone else.

Get It?

Hey AF - I don't suppose you can tell us who drafted the IRC code section on carried interest [or more importantly their political affiliation]?

Schwartenager, really?

Yeah, it must be the ghost of Arnold, and not the democratically controlled legislature for all these years, right? Surely not the $500k per year prison nurses, $250k per year librarians, and certainly not the $150k lifeguards or hordes of illegals.

Hey Spanky, I am now working on a program for a new "Super Car" for 2015. Benchmarks are the Ferrari 599 and Audi R8.

We just hired 3 guys that got laid off by Fisker. No Govt. money involved.

Just an OEM that sees an opportunity in a hot market.

This car is going to be screaming hot.

Bev, I'm curious.

Do you have any original thoughts or do you really just cut and paste from web sites and parrot what they tell you.

Cuz see, when you go off script just a bit like this:

The youth don't like/want the lies and repeal of the legislation President put in place. They want jobs just like everyone else.

Get It?

It is kind of embarrasing and no I don't Get It.......

"This car is going to be screaming hot."

Will it pull hard to the right, blow a lot of smoke, and make a high whining noise? If so, it has been designed to Republican specs.

WCA,

Did you see the 60th anniversary model of the Corvette? Now, I could see me driving on Daytona Beach in that!

Hey Spanky - here's a chance to prove you really are smart after all!

Why don't you point out for the nice folks here the section of the Internal Revenue Code (regulations, not legislation!) that lets Mitt and his Bain-buddies get away with their carried interest scam?

(Don't bother trying to figure out the political affiliation of the person who drafted it - IRS commissioners are non-partisan. But of course you knew that?)

phine, I did see the 60th anniversary vette. Pretty sweet.

We are also looking at the Z06, but the car we are designing will be a bit higher end than that.

Although I could do just fine with a Z06.

Sailcat

Santorum would never address college students because he thinks they are snobs.

Sorry, but he is always adressing students and having rally's with them, that is why typically he get's more of their votes than Romney.

Nah sailcat, none of that.

But only the evil 1%er's will be able to afford it.

Kind of like the government funded Fisker Karma, except the government isn't funding this one.

It runs on gasoline.

Head - you're suckered.

"Freedom" is now one of those right-wing slogans that means the opposite of its obvious, common-sense meaning.

Like "right to work" means "you have no right to work, and your employer can screw you over any time he feels like it".

"Freedom" now means "work your ass off 24 hours a day, but don't expect us to pay you - all the money is for us". We could just say "slavery" and be done with it - but that wouldn't make shiny sound bites and confuse the ignorant.

Ain't "freedom" grand?

WCA,

No snark here, but a serious question. How hard would it be to convert to vehicles powered by natural gas (assuming we could get someone, anyone to open natural gas stations)? Natural gas is low in cost and we have plenty here.

Ain't "freedom" grand?

Why yes it is First.

Maybe you ought to run your concept of Freedom past all those soldiers that are fighting for your right to say what you just said and see what they think.

phine, I don't know the answer to that.

My "educated" guess is that converting cars is not very realistic. I do know that the annual cost for operating a vehicle on Natural gas vs gasoline is about the same. (You can google it)

I do know this, if there was a way for an Auto Company to make money selling Natural Gas cars, they would be doing it. No doubt infrastructure is part of the problem. Not to mention the EPA and the Sierra club.

This caught my eye too!

Told by a young woman that she would like free birth control as part of her own "pursuit of happiness,"

These things come to mind.

Girl, if you think having sex will bring you happiness, you have a lot bigger problems than just getting free birth control to have "safe sex".

Things like being selfish, spoiled, demanding, short sighted, low self esteem, easily influenced, easilty bought, no shame.

All the reasons a president is to be at least 35 years old on the day election - but as of 2008, maybe that requirement should be raised to age 50.

WCA,

Thanks for the response. Just trying out different ideas to solve some of our problems - something if we tried to do together would be for the betterment of all. (Yes, I am thinking as an American not a partisan political hack. Shame on me!) Just sometimes seems to me if we spent our energies working together towards something instead of always trying to work against each other, we could go far.

Perhaps she will give up her pursuit of happiness as soon as the male counterparts will give up their pursuit of happiness: chasing after females such as that one.

Food for thought?

"My party, my vision, is about protecting economic freedom for you," Romney said. "I've had it for me. I've had economic freedom. I've achieved beyond my wildest dreams. I want economic freedom for you."

HE had it for him. He's the 1% that benefits from his tired and tried GOP policies. His version of "economic freedom" is tantamount to the lottery. He may as well say "follow me and you'll all have the opportunity... 99% of you won't make it and will beholden to the likes of me, but you'll have your opportunity". I don't consider lottery odds "opportunity".

But yes, the best he could do is get them a job. But since it was his party that prevented them from getting their job already, how does he plan on getting them jobs? Remember, he's got to do what he claims Obama ISN'T doing. He's got to CREATE jobs AND reduce the debt.

Bush "starved the beast" to dysfunction, then spent like a madman on two wars, Homeland Security, Medicaid, and tax cuts... how will Romney be different? Name ONE way, just one.

Remove regulations? Bush did that and we got screwed. Offer tax cuts? Been done. Incent green jobs? No, he'll kill those. War? You bet! He would be on Iran AND Syria right now.

Just another Bush. Just what we DON'T need right now.

The republicans are so worried about the debt they will cut from the poor until there is nothing left but the carcasses of once living Americans.

But the rich, we can't ask the rich for anything. America could fall off the map and the republicans wouldn't ask anything of the rich especially to help with the debt or to get the people back to work.

Most of all, the republicans always like to pretend that the wars and tax cuts have nothing to do with the debt. Instead of the reality of run-a-way tax cuts for the rich, they want to claim it is all about spending and nothing about revenue.

Meanwhile when we are being distracted by the economy, the republican taliban is busily working to take away all rights from women. All of the republican candidates have signed a pledge to overturn Roe v Wade. The republicans want to take us back to the dark ages and then call it freedom.

Much more of the republican brand of freedom and we won't have any rights at all left.

VOTE......FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS......Obama/Biden 2012

i voted democrat because i sure as @!$%# didnt want palin anywhere near the white. i also didnt want someone who thought she was a good candidate for vp, to be making decisions on a countrywide level. was hoping to vote republican this year, but probably not since all the candidates suck..

If the young woman wanting "free birth control" was a full time student (since he WAS addressing students), then just like Susan Fluke, she is required to pay for health insurance while in school unless she is under the age of 27, in which case it would be her parents' policy. Romney, on the other hand, reads what she is saying as asking for a hand-out...why? Because he "answers the questions he wants to answer".

My guess is the young woman will take his advice and vote for the guy that heard the question about COVERING birth control under ALL insurance policies without a co-pay, and thus achieve at least one of her conditions for pursuit of happiness.

Obama/Biden 2012 - because they don't treat women like property.

I think I legitimately hate the entire GOP field now.

Job Creation

http://energytomorrow.org/job-creation/#/type/all

America's oil and natural gas industry supports 9.2 million men and women across the United States in a wide range of highly skilled, well-paying
professions. In fact, oil and natural gas industry exploration and production
wages are more than double the national average. An analysis of
API's public data, independent research and corporate annual reports finds that
the industry distributed $176 billion in wages paid to U.S. employees, plus
benefits and payments to oil and natural gas leaseholders.

Oil and natural gas companies invest in cutting-edge
technology and offer fulfilling careers to the next generation of American
engineers, geophysicists, chemists, earth scientists, geologists, climate
experts and explorers. These individuals, working with the best technologies,
will help find and recover oil and natural gas here and abroad and help secure
America's energy future. In addition, the industry employs professionals that
most people don't normally associate with our industry, such as botanists and
marine biologists, even zoologists and veterinarians.

With the right government policies in place, the oil and
natural gas industry can create more American jobs that can help grow the U.S.
economy, generate substantial new revenues for government and provide greater
energy security for our nation.

In fact, with increased access to U.S. oil and gas
resources we can create 1
million new jobs in the next ten years alone. To put that in perspective,
that would provide enough jobs for nearly every citizen of Rhode Island. A
recent study by Wood
Mackenzie found that by 2030, nearly 1.4 million new jobs could be added
through policies which encourage development of America's oil and natural
resources, and facilitate Canadian
oil sands production through the development of Keystone XL and other
related piplines. A few examples are as follows:

• Development of the Marcellus
  Shale alone could create 160,000 jobs in Pennsylvania, 20,000 jobs in
  New York and 30,000 jobs in West Virginia by 2015.
• The opening of Florida to
  exploration and development could result in up to 100,000 new
  Florida jobs by 2016--just with increased access to federal areas
  within the Gulf of Mexico.
• U.S. State Department approval of
  the Keystone XL
  pipeline could generate nearly
  85,000 jobs by 2020

To learn more about the Wood Mackenzie study and view
state specific job creation numbers, view this interactive job creation map.

Romney is right with regards to Planned Parenthood: If it is planned, then one certainly should be financially capable of taking care of one's own. They should have a health insurance plan that covers prenatal care as is the case today. Nothing is broken.

Why would a young voter vote for a Democrat? Because they fund education, birth control, social security and medicare....

The Democrats do not fund education, birth control, social security, and medicare.

• The college student is funding their own education through student loans which are required to be paid back with interest.
• The birth control is funded through insurance premiums which the person who purchases the insurance is required to pay either through work or salary.
• The social security and medicare are funded through a separate tax which only applies to earned income.

I do not see any hand outs here just more and more federal mandates to purchase products and services.

• I agree that a women should be able to purchase medical insurance which includes birth control if she chooses to. Maybe at a lower cost than a plan that does not include birth control.
• I agree that student coming out of high school need a higher degree for many of the jobs today and they should be given that opportunity.
• Social security and medicare are the support system for our seniors and soon to be seniors, but we need to make these programs viable going into the next 20 years because currently they are not viable.

Neither the Republicans or the Democrats are handing out anything. We are paying for it all. Is the current way we are funding these services the best way for our pocket books?

By creating these social divisions -- and I blame the media -- we don't really get to evaluate the qualifications of a candidate for President. In all of the media, I've never seen an article or question around this. Why is Rick Santorum getting so many votes? After all, he was voted out of congress so what makes him qualified to be President?

DON you're wrong and so are every one of you who spew the same barack talking point about taking over during the worst economic crisis since the great depression. It wasn't the worst. The worst since the depression is what Reagan got when he took over from Carter. But your messiah and the lib media don't want you to recite that because Reagan's policies got us out of it. GOD I wish you guys would check some facts for yourselves!

To every one of you libs who keep crying about the rich. Let's take every penny from every person making more than 200k per year (thats rich according to barack) and where will we be? Come on you economic geniuses, do the math. You libs think you're so frickin' smart by regurgitating this ignorant, class-warfare, nation-dividing rhetoric that your SOCIALIST waste of a presidency barack keeps vomiting out of his mouth. DO THE FRICKIN MATH! Take every penny, go ahead. It will knock down a few months of US spending. How is this so hard to figure out for you guys. Did you not attend math class in third grade? So where are we then huh? Come on quit being a pansy and explain to me how that is going to solve anything let alone if you simply tax them more. Someone explain it to me, I'm dying to know what some of you liberal economic wizards have to say.

Wake up America! Quit being blind little sheep and use some logic for a change. We can't afford the interest on our debt let alone the debt. Maybe it's time to cut massively back on spending. If you make 50k a year and you're spending 100k per year...you're not going to last long. "Fair share fools", what's that mean anyway? Pay your fair share? So I work 100 hours a week building a business, risking my money, being responsible for my bills, sweeping my floor, taking out my trash, doing my books, sales, inventory etc. and after years I start reaping some financial rewards and I get to where I only have to work 50 hours per week to make pretty good money. Now you jack-asses want to come around and tell me that I somehow OWE YOUR MORE because I earned it. The way I see it is if that's the case you owe me thousands of hours of labor in return. My answer to your philosophy...go to hell.

Liberalism is anti-American

Realamericansfirst-

There it is...now I know exactly where you're coming from. Right to work state is evil huh? Bunch of evil corporations forcing people into slave labor for poverty wages eh? Explain to me how that works exactly. Tell me why when Indiana opened up to a right to work state they had multiple companies expand and enter their state literally overnight. Thousands of new jobs are being created. They didn't get rid of unions...no you can still work for a union company if you want but they said you don't have to. So again, how is having a choice in the matter bad? You say working your ass off 24 hours a day? Really? So if I'm at a company that's demanding of that but since it's a "free" country and all, a different company is right down the road and they want to attract good workers do you think maybe they don't require me to work my ass off 24 hours a day?

You mean to tell me that if I really want to work at Daisey's donut factory because it's my life long dream but they are union, that I then have to pay part of my hard earned money to an organization that I don't believe in? An organization that contributes massively to a political party that I don't agree with? An organization that sends it's leaders to exotic "training" locations at the expense of it's members? (you know just like those big bad corporations do with their EARNED money) And to top it off I have to contribute to an organization that will not pay me more than the next donut glazer even though I show up early and work late, I grab a broom now and then and I don't take a lunch because i love what I do. But the guy next to me who shows up high and gets fired then shows up the next week again because his rep backed him up gets the same pay, benefits and curtsies as I do? But my choice is either join the union or I don't get to work at my life long dream huh? Yeah, that sounds like an awesome system to be part of.

Delta Airlines voted the union out because they got paid the same but didn't have to pay into a union. Yeah that must suck for them. I'd rather make $1.50 less per hour and have a job then be on the unemployment line all proud that I'm part of a union...but be there because they went on strike...and cost me my job.

Freedom is grand pal. Try starting a business sometime and see where the "freedom" of this country is going. By your definition freedom has something to do with being forced to join a union or not having a job....hmmm. I think you need look deeper at your own statements.

Regarding this post; at least Romney admits he's rich. barack pretends he's not but sits on high while telling all of his lemmings that he's their man. BULL S%$*!!! He's more of an elitist and "let them eat cake" guy than any I've seen...and he's played you guys like his fiddle. What has he done for his riches? How many people made money from any of his ventures?

Hey Gramma,

Birth control pills are $9 a month at Walmart. The same girl probably spends $100 a month on Starbucks. If she, or anyone, can't be responsible enough to come up with $9 a month then they certainly aren't responsible enough to make a decision about what reality show to watch let alone to have sex or not. It's a left wing opportunistic political talking point and what barack is doing is simply desecrating the Christian religion yet again.

I'll bet everything I've ever owned that if bacon were a nutritional necessity for survival he would NEVER even dream of mandating that muslim organizations provide bacon to their members (because some of them might want to stay alive). Even if it were that drastic of a necessity barack would never do it. He can say what he wants but his actions have been anti-christian (as in against Christianity the religion) ever since he's been in the public eye. This ain't about birth control.

@American's first.

"All of the republican candidates have signed a pledge to overturn Roe v Wade."

No they haven't. You're lying through your frickin' fingers!

This is the same talking point crap that comes up every time from the left. First of all a president can't just overturn a supreme court ruling. Secondly Romney would never attempt to have it done it's not in his wheelhouse. Santorum might think about it but again, it's not going to happen in today's political climate. Gingrich??? Same thing, he can act like he's against it but he's not gong to do anything about it. Ron Paul? Really? The Libertarian running Republican who says stay out of my body, my bedroom and my bank account is going to overturn it huh?

Signed a pledge...where is this "pledge" What the hell man, you're embarrassing! You're definitely reading too many blogs that are copying and pasting one persons opinion and then it catches like wildfire in your circles. Get your face out of the NYT. I'm sure you think they have all signed pledges to euthanize all senior citizens too. This is the problem with libs...you guys hear something and then you start preaching it like it's the truth. Just like barack said he would close gitmo and you believed it, or that barack was going to unite the country and the world and you believed that, or when barack said he would be the most transparent president in history by having full access to policy discussions and again...you believed that. This is why the term "sheep" has become so popular.

Even if your worst nightmare came true and the supreme court got flipped to a majority that decided to overturn it, what would that mean? Have you thought it out or are you a typical headline reader? It means that it would be the decision of the states. Oh no...how could it be that we would be resorting to a constitutional principal? Do you really think that every state or more than one or two would ban it? Roe v Wade will not be overturned no matter who's in office but even if it did, big deal; someone would have to drive an extra hundred miles across state lines to get an abortion. Typical talking point over-hype reactions.

Mittens is a lying, pandering and flip-flopping fool of a Grand Ole Plutocracy (GOP) candidate. His economic plan would add 3 TRILLION (not a typo) to the deficit according to Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2012/02/29/romneys-tax-plan-would-add-3t-to-deficit-over-a-decade/). So he is, once again, saying whatever it takes in order to obtain your vote and hoping that you don't question his assertions or numbers. His pants are perpetually on fire so I am actually wondering how he does not spontaneously combust. His plan depends on economic growth spurred by tax cuts... Just look at all the economic growth Bush's tax cuts got us (and eff Obama for extending them.)

@Rightwingwac

This is the problem with libs...you guys hear something and then you start preaching it like it's the truth.

You make a lot of strong arguments in your rebuttals, but have you ever stopped to honestly consider that a lot of what you are stating as fact comes across the same way? You accuse liberals of not checking facts or of outright lies, and then you make equally incorrect statements as fact.

For example, you state that American's first is lying about the pledge signed by candidates, and then you built a straw man argument about how a president can't overturn a supreme court ruling. An easy check of the facts reveals that most or all of the the candidates have in fact signed a pledge, the Personhood Pledge. While "Personhood" laws aren't an attempt to directly overturn Roe Vs Wade, it's an attempt to go around it. So his claim may be a slight exaggeration, but is essentially true.

While I'm reluctant to make a statement similar to yours, that conservatives hear something and then start preaching it, in many cases it is true. And in many cases they do it as you have done, accusing someone else of posting in ignorance, then posting an equally ignorant rebuttal, full of disdain. Do you honestly not see that you and many of your fellow conservatives are doing that?

Lastly, I have to ask. What is the point in cutting people down like this? You are obviously not trying to win anyone over to your side by slinging insults at liberals and accusing them of ignorance and stupidity. So what is your goal?

Rightwingwac

DON you're wrong and so are every one of you who spew the same barack talking point about taking over during the worst economic crisis since the great depression. It wasn't the worst. The worst since the depression is what Reagan got when he took over from Carter. But your messiah and the lib media don't want you to recite that because Reagan's policies got us out of it. GOD I wish you guys would check some facts for yourselves!

To every one of you libs who keep crying about the rich. Let's take every penny from every person making more than 200k per year (thats rich according to barack) and where will we be? Come on you economic geniuses, do the math. You libs think you're so frickin' smart by regurgitating this ignorant, class-warfare, nation-dividing rhetoric that your SOCIALIST waste of a presidency barack keeps vomiting out of his mouth. DO THE FRICKIN MATH! Take every penny, go ahead. It will knock down a few months of US spending. How is this so hard to figure out for you guys. Did you not attend math class in third grade? So where are we then huh? Come on quit being a pansy and explain to me how that is going to solve anything let alone if you simply tax them more. Someone explain it to me, I'm dying to know what some of you liberal economic wizards have to say.

Wake up America! Quit being blind little sheep and use some logic for a change. We can't afford the interest on our debt let alone the debt. Maybe it's time to cut massively back on spending. If you make 50k a year and you're spending 100k per year...you're not going to last long. "Fair share fools", what's that mean anyway? Pay your fair share? So I work 100 hours a week building a business, risking my money, being responsible for my bills, sweeping my floor, taking out my trash, doing my books, sales, inventory etc. and after years I start reaping some financial rewards and I get to where I only have to work 50 hours per week to make pretty good money. Now you jack-asses want to come around and tell me that I somehow OWE YOUR MORE because I earned it. The way I see it is if that's the case you owe me thousands of hours of labor in return. My answer to your philosophy...go to hell.

Liberalism is anti-American

Your ignorance about the economic history of this country is astounding. If Barack Obama's tax plan were implemented the taxes for those who earn over $200K per year would be less than under the Reagan administration and less then half of the rate that existed during the Eisenhower administration when the top tax rate was 91%. It is also true that the largest tax increase in US history was the 1982 tax bill under Reagan. When you talk about Reagan policies "getting us out of" our economic problems you cannot ignore the major tax increase, that is, if you are rational and knowledgeable.

Ignorant voters are anti-American. If you participate in the democratic process it is critical that you do so in good faith, which means that some effort on your part is necessary in order that you know the facts and understand the issues.

@Rightwingwac

Birth control pills are $9 a month at Walmart. The same girl probably spends $100 a month on Starbucks.

It could be 24,000 and up for a pregnancy so what.

A female should be allowed to purchase HER insurance from a HER insurance company that includes HER health without a group of male idiots nit picking what HER health needs are.

If she, or anyone, can't be responsible enough to come up with $9 a month then they certainly aren't responsible enough to make a decision about what reality show to watch let alone to have sex or not.

Wow now we jump from price to females being irresponsible. Show me how you really feel about us females. Instead of making the argument about a female being forced to pay for the kitchen sink health care you choose to make this about irresponsible women.

I give up on the GOP. I am watching American's Elect. My 2 candidates of choice are: Buddy Roemer and Michealene Risely.

Talking

You reprinted what I wrote but did you comprehend any of it. Point: this chick want's free birth conrol. Counterpoint: Birth control can be found at places like Wal-mart for a whopping $9 a month. If someone is complaining about what's USUALLY (I'm sure you'll complain about my generalizing all women's situations even though I said "usually") a voluntary and not health oriented luxury item and they can't afford or expect someone else to absorb the cost of that item they are irresponsible. Period! I want free HBO, how about I send the bill to you.

Guess what? SHE can purchase HER birth control through HER insurance right now. Why do I know this being an ignorant all controlling male? Because I'm in the business and I provide people with health insurance including prescriptions which 90% of cover birth control as per described in the plan. This whole argument is about power...the power of the government to make someone or some organization provide something to someone for no cost to that person when the organization is strongly and religiously against. Stop making it about the ever controlling Male and get off your liberated mare. You just turned this discussion completely south so I'll play that game. I never said Women as a group, I was talking directly about this BROAD!

You want to make this a women's rights issue? That's hilarious! I'll keep this a responsibility issue thank you very much. You want birth control? It's 9 frickin dollars. I'm sure a strong independent woman like you can understand the need not to rely on a piggish, primarily male dominated empire like an insurance company to provide you with charitable assistance can't you? I'm sure a strong independent woman like yourself would be capable of somehow scraping up a little bit of change each and every month and putting your priorities in order like; one less cup of coffee per month = birth control payment. My God we can't have that type of responsibility in this country can we. Don was wondering why I get so frickin' angry on these things and this is a prime example.

Tell me, what the hell is wrong with having a choice in your coverage? You want extra prescription coverage? Fine it will cost you an extra $X per month because your organization doesn't pay for it. What's that, you can't afford the extra $X per month. Oh okay, how about $9 per month at your local Wal-Mart. It's an argument like yours that paints the entire women's movement in a piss-poor light.

Don't give me this "a pregnancy costs 24k" crap. That's called taking some damn responsibility. You want to use birth control use it. You want the morning after pill buy it. You want an abortion go for it. I don't give a rip about those things and according to you I shouldn't so we're all hunky-dory and like little love birds there. But the government takes one bite after another forcing "we the people" to conform to more and more and more of their control.

Like I stated barack would never do anything like this to the muslim religion. But you only think "here's just another arse-hole male putting his two cents in". Well you know what sister? If I'm helping pay for something and I'm losing more control because of it...it isn't just about your precious body anymore. You want to be responsible for yourself...be responsible for yourself. ATTENTION PEOPLE THAT WANT FREE BIRTH CONTROL...FREE BIRTH CONTROL AVAILABLE AT PLANNED PARENTHOOD CENTERS ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS KNOW HOW TO WORK THE SYSTEM. This bird was a total plant and nothing more. It's a completely empty argument.

Wanna keep playing...let's keep playing.

Don

Irrelevant. We didn't have the debt we have now nor the ratio adjusted for the dollar's buying power. There is no way taxing the rich get's us anywhere close to out of this. We can go deep economics all day long if you'd like but you won't be able to simply state tax rates if you plan on participating. The political argument has purposely gone to "tax the rich, they must pay their FAIR share" and that argument is as bad as it gets with the current problems we have. The leaders on the left are lying and telling their peeps that everything will be warm and fuzzy if we could only get those bastard rich people to pay their fair share. It's divisive and done 100% on purpose to keep us hating our neighbors.

I'll re-phrase my last statement. Those who I know and loved present and past who have sacrificed limb and ultimately life did not do so for this country to take on a socialist leaning liberal philosophy. They did it for freedom, the kind of freedom that has a responsible but very limited federal government. Liberalism is much closer to socialism than it is freedom from government. Therefor by my definition and several who never came home upholding that definition...liberalism smells like, looks like and feels anti-American.

@Dave-2550157

Okay, here's your answer: first of all Romney did not sign your personhood pledge so my statement was 100% correct. They all have not signed anything to overturn Roe v Wade. And as I said the ones who did sign (not an overturn pledge) will never make it happen. Yes that part is speculation on my part but for goodness sake; the all powerful poster-child conservative Ronald Reagan didn't do it so you guys really need to relax on the issue.

Anyway, The statement he was making was wrong and it boils me when people do that with talking points. Romney is the frontrunner so it's even more relevant that I called him(presumably him) out on it. Now if Romney signed something in the last 24 hours then I'll gladly recant my statement but I do check my information when making such a bold and firm statement and it was accurate.

As far as lashing out; well you're right and you articulated your point very well. I'm addicted to this stuff, like most of us, and I've made multiple attempts in the past to have articulate and meaningful arguments but there are sooooo many times when the comprehension level is so unbelievably low that it has regretfully and admittedly forced me to simply start at the bottom of the dignity barrel when it comes to going up against some people.

You poised yourself with a firm stand and didn't stoop to that level and I commend you. But on the point that you were saying I was the same as those I chastised you are incorrect and I just gave you an example as to why.

Thanks for your input and I'll look for you in the future for some meaningful, civil, and intelligent debate.

Vote for that Mutt? The guy who wanted to kick the automobile industry in the @$$?

The guy who doesn't know the meaning of the word WORK? To Mutt, work is a dirty four-letter word and is against his religion.

The guy who doesn't know how to transport a dog from Point A to Point B? I have no faith in someone that would treat a dog like that. Why didn't he tie one of his brats to the roof of the car. Or better yet, his wife. After all, the republithugs are against women. All a woman is good for is to be barefoot and pregnant.

Bet he kisses Rush Limburger's @$$ too.

@Rightwingwac

Talking

You reprinted what I wrote but did you comprehend any of it. Point: this chick want's free birth conrol.

Yes I did get exactly what you said. You seem to be implying that the birth control is FREE and it is not. The federal government is MANDATING that everyone PAY for health insurance plans. If birth control pills are $9 per month, $108 per year then an MANDATED $1000 or more medical plan certainly covers the $108 fee.

@Rightwingwac I am sorry I missed this part.

Because I'm in the business and I provide people with health insurance including prescriptions which 90% of cover birth control as per described in the plan. This whole argument is about power...the power of the government to make someone or some organization provide something to someone for no cost to that person when the organization is strongly and religiously against.

So it is OK for the government to mandate that a poor person pays thousands of dollars to purchase a health insurance plan from your business, but it is not OK for the government to mandate that the plan to includes a $108 for birth control in that plan. It is OK for the person to use that plan to ensure that a Catholic hospital receives cash from your business but it is not OK for the government to mandate that the Catholic hospital provide that same coverage to their employees in return.

I can see the fight against an individual being required to purchase a health insurance plan. I totally get that. What I do not get is a group of men making a decision to go after the insurance piece-meal so that the only medication deemed FREE or LUXURY is medication only prescribed to women.

Yep this is why I am giving up on the GOP. Go American's Elect. My 2 candidates of choice are: Buddy Roemer and Michealene Risely

Talking

OMG are you out on a fragile limb. My business? AHHH that's f-ing funny. First off I hate this current administration and barack can take that mandate and go straight to hell with it. It will destroy this country like you won't believe. I've read it, I've studied it, and believe me you are exaggerating immensely if you think a good health plan costs a thousand dollars right now but by 2014 that $500 per month family plan will cost way over 12-1300 per month. The whole bill is designed to kill private insurance. To top it off in 2014 there is no license required for agents so my job goes bye-bye. Sooooo, take your assumptions and shove-em wherever it feels good baby.

I don't like insurance companies, I help people manipulate whats available so they can afford it and still have great coverage. I actually help people unlike our government. But everyone I help has a choice and determines risk. The script plans that can be included include Birth control but my clients have to pay for script coverage. Why should it be different for anyone else. And there you go with that bull-S&$% "MEN" statement again. You know what? You really would get more respect if you knock that crap off.

If that's your argument against me than the argument is completely over. NO it's not okay for the government to mandate a damn thing in regards to healthcare or birth control. There, does that make you feel better? Because by your last post you were presuming I was hypocritical about the government mandates. I'm sure much to your pleasant surprise you have found out how much I'm against all of them. I notice you keep avoiding the whole "responsibility" thing. Well don't worry because if the bad man gets re-elected you will not be happy with any of the healthcare coming down the pipe.

Believe me, we are all sooooo screwed when that thing goes full-force. I'm sure you and any other lib is laughing right now thinking that I'm just an idiot...well, this idiot can read and if you want some scary bedtime reading grab the bill and see for yourself. The power to make decisions about your unborn fetus will be literally in the hands of several political appointees. How does that tickle your "power to the woman" fancy? Sleep well Talking for tomorrow the nightmare begins.

PS. Knock off the man-hatred eh?...it's very unbecoming.

If you expect everything in life for free and have your hand out to the government, then by all means you should vote for the Democrats. They will make non-stop promises to get your vote.

Of course with the country running trillion plus dollar annual deficits and the nation fast approaching 16 trillion in national debt the money being promised by the Democrats will probably, maybe, possibly be there when you expect it.

Then again, maybe it won't. After all, politicians are prone to saying what you want to hear, and just how long do you expect the banks of China and India to remain open?

Rightwingwac

I've read it, I've studied it, and believe me you are exaggerating immensely if you think a good health plan costs a thousand dollars right now but by 2014 that $500 per month family plan will cost way over 12-1300 per month.

You keep making my point that the birth control included in the plan is by no means free. You said earlier that 90% of the insurance plans already cover birth control so the insurance companies do not consider it a luxury.

The whole bill is designed to kill private insurance.

The whole bill is designed to provide insurance companies with more customers. I may buy that the bill is designed to kill smaller insurance companies but the bill certainly is not designed to kill private insurance. As a matter of fact it grows the insurance industry, the pharmaceutical industry, and the health care industry.

And there you go with that bull-S&$% "MEN" statement again. You know what? You really would get more respect if you knock that crap off.

Oh you mean the following statement: "What I do not get is a group of men making a decision to go after the insurance piece-meal so that the only medication deemed FREE or LUXURY is medication only prescribed to women."

Do you understand "No taxation without representation"? The same rule applies here. On a topic of health care for women I expect that women are involved in the decision making process. I was not the one to call an all male panel to discuss religious views on women's birth control.

There are arguments that could have been made against the AHCA which do not include the intent to belittle, demean, or slander one group of people. For instance "The AHCA plan does not include an incentive for the doctors or patients to choose a lower cost generic over a higher cost non generic drug."

PS. Knock off the man-hatred eh?...it's very unbecoming.

It's what women see everyday in reverse regardless of how unbecoming it is. They may not see it in words, but it is certainly there in actions.

I am still backing American's Elect.

Talking

--------"The whole bill is designed to provide insurance companies with more customers. I may buy that the bill is designed to kill smaller insurance companies but the bill certainly is not designed to kill private insurance. As a matter of fact it grows the insurance industry, the pharmaceutical industry, and the health care industry."

No you're wrong. I'm not going into massive detail but major health carriers cannot sustain what this bill calls for because people will not buy health care because it will be too expensive. They will opt for the penalty and then they will be guaranteed insurability so if they get really sick they will be able to get coverage. The rate hikes have to be justified and they will be because you can not give me $300 today and go rack up 100k in medical bills tomorrow and expect me to stay in business. So the rate hikes will be justified and they will be out of this world. The major companies will have a massively decreasing number of policyholders and will not be able to survive. It's called a death spiral and it's real.

You're listening to proponents translate things to you instead of digging in and seeing what's actually in it. When the companies can not sustain business who are you going to turn to for health care? Yep, the government. Even your superhero Sabillious stated that a single payer system is inevitable with this bill.

As far as everything else; you keep avoiding and completely missing the whole point. This isn't about birth control. It's about the government overstepping their boundaries and forcing a religious organization to do something against it's belief. That's it, nothing more nothing less. I'm tired of pointing it out I think I've done it six or seven times now. You want to keep making it about the pill being included in insurance and it's not.

By your last statement it's a cyclical problem that will never end huh? I think you should pay attention to television commercials because 1 in 5 paint men to be complete helpless morons. To be honest I wouldn't give a rip if it were done in a jokingly manor but it resonates with women so they market that way. However, until now you've probably never realized it. Well pay more attention.

It's still unbecoming and if you honestly want to argue with men just use logic, present a firm argument and leave it at that and you will get massively more respect than throwing in gender cards. At least from nearly every man I know. Anyway, I'm done with the birth control thing...you're not seeing it for what it is so, good bantering with ya.

Talking

By my last statement I was in no way saying that all men use logic. Don't take it that way, that was not my intention. What I was saying is if you stick to those methods you will not fight the chauvinistic battles nearly as much. Both sides of our species have plenty of idiots as I'm sure many readers on this site feel I am too.

I wonder IF our Esteemed Carnival Barkers(formerly known as the MSM) Will PickUp on This LIL Diddy:

"I and my party are also devoted to making sure we don't pass on to you trillions upon trillions of dollars in debt. We have in the Democratic party people who are consumed with giving more and more benefits to me and my generation, and passing on those burdens to you," Romney said. "Every trillion dollars this president amasses, every year, guess who is going to pay that? Not me. I'm gone. I'm too old to pay it back. You're going to pay it back."

Thats a Direct Quote from Malibu Mitt today in Illinois!

Is Malibu Mitt Saying "Tax Himself More"?

I do Believe, He's saying the 1% needs to be Taxed More!

Well, Kiss My Grits!

Occupy SoggyBottom!

I think the time has come for the American people to realize that the future of this country can not rest on the shoulders of politicians. The politicians do not stand for the people. The politicians will make sure the American machine will keep operating as it has in the past.

All we have coming from the Obama administration and the Democratic Party is spend baby spend, borrow baby borrow, tax baby tax, and print baby print. They have yet to offer one solution to the looming collapse of Medicare or Social Security, much less the massive debt this country is incurring.

But there is no shortage of blame or scare tactics from Obama and the Democrats. What is the definition of insanity? Sending the same people to Washington but expecting different results. The politicians in Washington care about themselves and not you.

Agree with Superpac, looking forward for Romney to get started on one on one with Obama so we can move on to some better change come november.

Romney won't beat Obama.............

I'm with ya 'sad eyes'... Why would a financially successful person want the grief of running for public office! It's got to be some sort of obsession... Or, he's been picked 'by the powers that be' to just frickin"DO AS HE'S TOLD!... They all scare the crap out of me... Obama/Biden 2012

I've "ignored" so many posters in here...soon every post will be collapsed. 'sigh'

...he lies, flip-flops and poses as a this or a that and all the while being a nothing.

It seems to me that this this "town-hall event" presented Romney with the perfect oppurtunity to waffle on his positions to pander to the youth of Illinois. Instead, he told them that the free ride would be over if he were elected, a message that actually resonates with me. Contrast that with the current President who promises potential voters anything they want, claiming he can offset the massive future spending by simply raising taxes on the rich.

SI

And what part of NO FREE LUNCH don't you understand?

What did I say about lunch? I should have been more clear about the high cost of education and maybe finding a way to address the problem. The same with health care for the poor (btw, the largest growing group falling into poverty, and I mean deep poverty, are women and children). If we can't find a constructive way to deal with that, we end up paying for it with higher insurance premiums.

And going back to education, you need that higher education for those higher paying jobs. So it is a Catch 22. I am willing to discuss all different types of ways to pay for it. So, stop attacking and offer something constructive!

Great point there phinep - Mitt is just so unlike Pelosi, Geitner, or Obama's 'man on Wall Street, John Corzine.

Isn't that right?

But it's cool Obama has ensured student debt exceeds credit card debt. So that's great, right?

And say phinep - do you have any idea how much all that fancy education cost Obama?

Romney has never known financial hardship, nor does he understand health care from the perspective of the middle class down.(regardless if it's women's or not) Which is what phinephancy is getting at.

Romney has not had never had to "work" for his money like the "serfs." He's also never had to worry about affording his insurance premiums.

Most people don't want a free lunch. The point of the contraception mandate is to make sure that it is available. The employee pays for the insurance via a deduction from their paycheck. The point of the no co-pay is to make sure it's more readily available. The payment for the medicine still comes out of the premiums deduction. Whether or not the premiums will increase is up to the insurance companies. The same insurance companies that have not said a single word about the mandate.

If anyone has had a "free lunch" it's been Romney himself. Most, if not all of his money, has been gained either through inheritance or off of the backs of the "serfs."

The middle class is basically turning into the serf class from medieval Europe. The Republicans want to expedite the process. They're even going so far as to issue their versions of "Fornication Under Consent of King" orders. Arizona is a good example with their bill to allow employers to nix birth control for any religious reason and their bill to force women to tell their employer why they are taking birth control.

Sorry Spanky, I don't know how much President Obama's education cost. I am just trying, reasonably, to point out both sides have a legitimate point (one, which I don't think Mr. Romney understands). Now, I am going to use that vulgar word compromise would seem to me to be the solution. We need our children and grandchildren to have that higher education, and we need to figure out a better way to pay for it. I am open to all suggestions. One idea I have heard kicked around is something like the GI bill. So, don't go get all huffy with me, but help find a reasonable solution. Please?

As for Pelosi, Geitner, or John Corzine - I could care less. I am more worried about my own family, thank you. I have 3 granddaughters I would like to see get the best education as possible. I am done with this right/left bickering. I want solutions and I don't give a rat's patootie who has them.

slodon - What part of "Mitt is eating MY lunch" don't you understand?

And that is why the president's numbers are dropping again. What we know today is that getting people to believe in you as hope will get you elected, but at the end of the day, people want substance. Them raising the Birth control issue shows how little they respect even the people that voted them in.

Hmmmm, see no one offering helpful, reasonable solutions here. Just more partisan bickering.

President Obama's approval ratings aren't perfect, but they aren't bad. He definitely leads his hilarious Republican challengers in the polls.

DB Akron -

I hope you are not suggesting that Mitt Romney is that person of "substance."

How about saving for it?

Or, if your parents don't/won't/can't, working for it?

Lose the sense of entitlement, substitute "want" for "wish", or "need", and you'd be amazed what you can accomplish.

Romney is right to tell the truth to these young people. When did we become a society of moochers?

Oh good, finally Boehner and Cantor need to go as the main dividers-in-congress.

Our country has survived 200 years with compromise until the republicans decided that compromise is a dirty word and you think we should blame President Obama for their lack of ethics.

The modern day plantation owners would be the corporations who are now people who want to lower minimum wage. Also plantation owners are more like the republicans that don't want us to have health care or any rights to decide about our own bodies. That is more like slavery than anything coming from the democratic side.

Somehow I also don't equate forced vaginal probes or even external ones with freedom either.

Now in Arizona your boss can deny you birth control for any reason and fire you and that is called freedom? Republicans have a strange ideal of freedom.

To me, republican freedom looks an awful lot like a bunch of white men telling the rest of us what and how to do everything from birth control to our constitutional right to choose. When they say jump we are supposed to say How High?

When we don't republican men tell us just what they think and that is that any woman who speaks out for her rights is in their eyes nothing but a slut and a whore. If they have to demean her with a pack of made of lies, so be it. That is how the republicans roll.

VOTE......Obama/Biden 2012.....FOR REAL FREEDOM

@San

Extremely successful white collar people usually put in three times as many hours as the people you say "work" for their money. Romney has enjoyed many financial blessings, he's also spent more time "working" than you will ever know. Just because someone wears a suit and has a lot of money doesn't mean they haven't worked for it.

But on that point; how has barack "worked" for his millions. Where has he made his money and where has it came from? I'll help you; other than writing a a couple of books he's made money off taxpayers and donations, off "charitable" organizations and a few land deals. Look at our "leader", you think that's the best thing for this country right now? If you do, okay...I'll disagree and fight you on every point but ok, you're obviously entitled to that opinion. But if you compare any private sector achievement level, job creation, money generation, or business knowledge and you still come up with that conclusion I guess arguing with you is a feeble attempt.

If everybody's father was CEO and governor I would buy a little of willard's speech. If everybody's father got them a draft deferment and paid for their extended education, I would start to believe willard. I don't think willard is the man.

Well we know for sure what to expect from Obama and the Democrats, spend baby spend, borrow baby borrow, tax baby tax, and print baby print. Running trillion plus dollar annual deficits and sure to topple 20 trillion in national debt by the end of Obama's second term. If you feel that is the right direction for this country, then by all means vote for Obama.

They are all questionable, and if the American people do not question them then they are more stupid then the candidates themselves. Nough said.

Everyone is questionable. The key to any chief executive is to have the priorities straight and staying on course not suckering the country into made up crisis, to look like a hero.

In the Washington Post today, Boehner and company actually in a last ditch effort to get a compromise on the debt reduction, finally gave Obama everything he asked for. Obama declined the offer, he had rigidly positioned himself on demands he believed they would never accept so there would be no deal. Then he could blame them as being ideologically uncompromising and the whole problem.

The Republicans never said a word about this, because their base would be honked off at them. This came from democrats, who were there, and for some reason, they are not happy with their leader.

You want to know something strange? I've never even met your parents and grandparents.

Why on EARTH should I be taking care of them?

I DO take care of my parents- took care of my grandparents before they passed- and my husband's mother.

I'm not asking for your help.

Social Security was NEVER meant to help the elderly live independently. It was meant to keep families together- to prevent young families from having to choose between their children and their parents. You, my friend, have an OBLIGATION. To your parents and grandparents.

As I have to mine.

Really????

dan,

Well said.

As Americans we 'provide for the general welfare "of all of us. Sure we have a duty to family but also to all those who are elderly in our country. Our govenment made a promise through SS and Medicare to provide a monthly payment and provide for basic health care for those 65 and older. I see the deductions taken out of my paycheck and I feel good. I am keeping that promise not to my parents who have died, but someone's parents or uncle or aunt.

And I am ok with making some changes that this promiise will be kept for all those who are younger than me.

it is part of the social contract between govenment and its people.

No joe doesn't know that not everyone has extended family.

I think his message was pretty clear. There are no "free rides" unless someone else is going to pay for it and his message is to the future generations who will inherit all the debt if something doesn't change, soon. This administration just doesn't get it or doesn't care about the future of our country.

Right and the party that wants more tax cuts for the rich is the responsible party. Like the tax cuts during war time didn't create a large part of the debt.

Republicans want to claim we have a run-a-way spending problem but I think we have a run-a-way tax cut problem.

Then you think that following the same plan that got us into this mess in the first place is caring for the future of our country? You want us to believe the republicans care so much about the debt, so much that they would cut everything from the poor no matter how many die. Just don't ask us to ask the rich for one thin dime because that is against their principles no matter how high the debt.

What a sucker you are if you think the republicans in congress care about the debt. You might, but they don't.

VOTE......A SEA OF BLUE 2012.....FOR A FREE AMERICA

As usual the republican love to stiff the veterans in plans like these.

I watched Reagan throw all the sick Vietnam veterans out on to the streets to save money in California when he was governor.

But don't worry Romney and his rich friends will get more tax cuts and that is what is really important.

I don't think he missed the boat at all with the students. The reality is they will inherit this huge debt, make no mistake of this fact. They will not have the opportunity to prosper if the government doesn't stop spending their futures away.

And the republicans care so much they will do anything but ask the rich for even one thin dime. Even to get Americans back to work.

Yeah republicans care about the debt. After all they voted for and created a large part of the debt with tax cuts during war time. In the rest of the history of our nation war time was when responsible governments raised taxes not cut them.

What proof have you got that they really care about the debt? Did they vote to pay for the wars with tax increases and I didn't hear about it?

TIRED OF REPUBLICAN BS.....VOTE 2012 FOR A SEA OF BLUE.....FOR REAL FREEDOM

Oil companies get no subsidies. No handouts of taxpayer dollars like the failed Solyndra.

Oil companies only get standard tax deductions all businesses have. Why not just come out and admit you want your God of Government to take over the industry?

You worship the government and want to feed the Nanny State with more and more of our money, and our freedom. Pathetic, really.

Bob, I believe you have been grossly undereducated if you believe that. Maybe President Obama can help you go to college in his next term.

OBAMA. 4 MORE YEARS!!!

Check out Ron Pauls voting record him and the republicans voted to give the oil companies a special tax break. It added to the deficit but the republicans only care about that kind of thing when the money goes to the poor instead of to the rich.

Grumpy Old McCain. Right on, right on.

There is a lot that he does not know, why? Well, it does not affect his finances: why should he have to know, right?

Bo, we would all be lucky to see the republican party go down within the decade. Nice comment.

The Republican party simply has no idea how to govern without fearmongering and warmongering
and that IS NOT what the USA or the World wants or needs in our future,

Peace, Prosperity and Progression, Equality, and Liberal individual rights, Vote DEMOCRAT!!!!

(I am not an actual Democrat, But I do play one online for sanities sake)

In fairness, republicans will not take their earned cash into death either...unless they are literally buried with cash. I would say Romney would be game for that.

You've pretty much got it nailed down right there.

The question becomes. Who needs help more? The rich or the poor?