Ronald Reagan knew lions had to hunt antelope

More classic Gingrich today in Barrington, Ill., per NBC's Alex Moe:

"You should define for yourself what your dreams are, and I would argue that one of the great weaknesses of American culture right now is we haven't had a conversation about the size dreams we need for a country of 305 million people or 310 million people. You don't lead a country this size with tiny things.

"There is a rule in Biology called hyper carnivia that basically says that lions can't afford to hunt chipmunks because even if they catch them, they starve to death. Lions have to hunt antelope and zebra.

"Ronald Reagan understood this and so Ronald Reagan came into office..."

We're not totally certain of "hyper carnivia," its spelling, or what it is. The closest we could come up with is this. (Any biologists out there?)

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So, big fish eat the little fish? Only the strong (rich) survive? Nice, real nice considering the current state of policies of the TeaPeople!

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Reply#1 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:14 PM EDT

Actually, carnivores will eat whatever is handy. Wolves survive in large part thanks to mice. Bears eat plants and animals. I have no idea what Newt is talking about, and neither does he.

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#1.1 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

I have no idea what Newt is talking about, and neither does he.

That made me laugh, Wayne. Thank you!

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#1.2 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:53 PM EDT

I believe that in Newt’s will there is a request for Reagan's
casket to be exhumed and his body to be placed in it with Ronald.

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#1.3 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:10 PM EDT

Are you guys serious or just pretending not to understand what he's saying?

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#1.4 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

I understand what Newt says. I just have a hard time believing what he says. His arrogance and ignorance never cease to amaze me.

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#1.5 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:25 PM EDT

I understand what he's saying but he has an odd way of saying it even for Gingrich. Trouble is his words are counter to the GOP policies. Why dream big for clean, renewal energy? Why invest in America for the future so its citizens can dream big? Why dream of college for the poor. Survival of the fittest and the richest seems to be the GOP's version of America. Let the poor, the hungry, the unemployed, the children do without; why educate them. Let them eat cake.

Newt, President Obama has a big dream vision for this country and that's why we elected him in 2008. He keeps getting those dreams passed despite the Party of NO's efforts. What are the GOP candidate's big dream visions for this country? Reaganomics for a third try on the off chance, threes a charm? So far, all we know is they are opposed to President Obama and their tax plan is Bush 43 on steroids just as Bush 43's was Reagan's on steroids. The GOP, including Newt, would have allowed the auto industry to die; those workers have dreams, big dreams for their children, too.

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#1.6 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

If it weren't for Reagan and his Alzheimer's-ridden dreams we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today.

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#1.7 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:02 PM EDT
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He just invented a new word!

No, in all seriousness, he probably got two words jumbled.

Hypercarnivore and Feliformia (cat-like carnivore marked by retractable claws, 4 front teeth, etc.)

OR Carnivora and he just wanted to add 'hyper' in front of it to make it sound awesome.

Hence 'hypercanivia'.

Yeah. I could see someone really ignorant telling themselves this guy sounds super intelligent and is well-worth voting for. Not even kidding or being sarcastic there. It's sad but true.

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Reply#2 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

Teknishan--I think you are spot-on. I have Bachlors and Masters degrees in Biology and have never heard of "hypercarnivia". If Newt thinks he is making himself the poster boy for science, he can't do it by creating his own vocabulary of words that are nonsense. On the other hand, maybe he subscribes to the "Humpty Dumpty" rule: "A word means what I say it means--no more, no less."

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

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#2.1 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:23 PM EDT
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Yes, a lion hunting a chipmunk will take her/him a tremendous amount of energy for not much return.

Time for America to think BIG and go for it. The U.S. is HUGE and has HUGE POTENTIAL in solar, wind, biofuels, etc.

America has it ALL baby! We just need to invent, innovate, invest, commit and get on with it. It will lead to far greater national security.

America has the potential to lead the world in alternative fuels, bar none.

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Reply#3 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:16 PM EDT

ideo -

Wow, that's pretty awesome.....for an indoor arena. Let's see what that guy can do at Lambeau Field in the middle of January!

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#3.2 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:33 PM EDT

Ideo, way cool.

Spent many a fun hour paper-plane hurling. This guy really got it done.

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#3.3 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:39 PM EDT

Time for America to think BIG and go for it. The U.S. is HUGE and has HUGE POTENTIAL in solar, wind, biofuels, etc.

America has it ALL baby! We just need to invent, innovate, invest, commit and get on with it. It will lead to far greater national security.

America has the potential to lead the world in alternative fuels, bar none.

Big Oil is doing everything they can to make sure it doesn't happen in our lifetime.

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#3.4 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

Big Oil is doing everything they can to make sure it doesn't happen in our lifetime.

They are also doing everything possible to own any green technology. New name on the block, it is called Big Energy.

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#3.5 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:01 PM EDT

Ideo,

Don't be more Big Money prey to naysaying.

IT WILL HAPPEN.

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#3.6 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:07 PM EDT

Backhouse,

I went out this morning and shot my car. I had stopped using it mostly for an excuse to take more walks. Boy am I glad to be over that addiction of driving to the store every time I needed a quart of milk.

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#3.7 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:17 PM EDT

Let's all get out there to grow algae in our pounds, inflate our tires and buy that Chevy Volt. When we can, walk - when we can take that public transportation.

When in California take the train to no where that will bankrupt the taxpayers of the state.

Yeah, big oil is the blame. How about those folks who write the tax codes that allow big oil to be smarter than them, doing what is currently legal to depreciate plant and fixtures as allowed by law.

And when in doubt, go and blame the Republicans.

    #3.8 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:51 PM EDT
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    HYPERCARNIVORE - A carnivorous animal in which 70% of its diet is flesh or meat of another animal.

    www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Hypercarnivore

    There is a rule in Biology called hyper carnivia that basically says that lions can't afford to hunt chipmunks because even if they catch them, they starve to death.

    The real reason that lions can't afford to hunt chipmunks, Newton, is that there are no chipmunks in Africa.

    (...dumbass!!!)

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    Reply#4 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

    Or how about obligate carnivore--where 100% of diet is meat? Cats are obligate carnivores. Hypercarnivore sounds somewhat redundant, but Tomato-tomahto I guess!

    "We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

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    #4.1 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

    Does Newt know that female lions (lionesses?) do most of the hunting? Seems to be at odds with the Republican agenda.

    On a separate note can we (please) send the people behind "Alvin and the Chipmunks" to the lions in Africa? Maybe that would mean no more movies!

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    #4.2 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:55 PM EDT
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    Okay, I have no idea what this means, but it makes just about as much sense:

    "The Principality of Carnivia is a huge, economically powerful nation, notable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-nosed, hard-working population of 732 million are either ruled by a sleek, efficient government or a conglomerate of multinational corporations; it's difficult to tell which.

    The large government juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Defence, and Education. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 26%. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Woodchip Exports, Pizza Delivery, and Soda Sales industries.

    Schoolchildren have twice-weekly sex education classes, referenda are banned by law and the Parliament has absolute control of the legislative process, popular political cartoonists are thrown in jail for inciting dissent, and the government snoops on private internet connections. Crime is a problem. Carnivia's national animal is the Wolf, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the Rail.

    Carnivia is ranked 1,312th in Osiris and 68,968th in the world for Most Cultured, scoring 0 on the Snufflebottom-Wiggendum Pentatonic Scale."

    http://www.nationstates.net/nation=carnivia

    Oh, wait, now I see: "NationStates is a free nation simulation game. You create your own country, fashioned after your own ideals, and care for its people. Either that or you deliberately torture them. It's really up to you."

    So.....a hyper Carnivian would be a Carnivian who spends too much time at Starbucks, right?

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    Reply#5 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

    That's near Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan, right?

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    #5.1 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:34 PM EDT

    JoAnne, that sounds like Newts moon colony where there are no courts or judges, and Newt is fundamentally the absolute ruler.

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    #5.2 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:43 PM EDT
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    If we had any doubt whether Newt's campaign had jumped the shark, now we know for sure.

    He is so sure of his intellect and debating skills that it seems as if he just likes to talk for the sake of hearing his own voice. So we get things like moon colonies and hyper-carnivia and promises to win debates against the President. I haven't seen much evidence of intelligence from Newt and the only debates I saw him win were when he could bully the moderators and rail against the media.

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    Reply#6 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:03 PM EDT

    Wait! You forgot about his daily "ELITE MEDIA" bashing!

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    #6.1 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

    My problem with Newter's carnivorous bent is that the wealthy GOP supporters see the middle class as their lunch.

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    #6.2 - Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:40 PM EDT
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    Comment author avatarChris Zagorskivia Facebook

    Larger animals, just by their sheer size, have more energy available in their body to be transferred to the hunter when they are preyed upon. Basically, it takes more energy (total, not relative) for an animal the size of an elephant to move its body than for an animal the size of a mouse to move its body. If the hunter used its energy to solely go after smaller animals, at a certain point it will be using more energy to hunt then it takes in from its prey. Therefore it is more efficient for the hunter to attack animals that will give it the most amount of energy for the least amount of effort.

    As far as "hyper carnivia', it seems to be another "newt-ism" to show himself off... not a fan

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