BILOXI, MS -- Rick Santorum today said that the United States should apologize for the massacre of 16 Afghan civilians killed by an American soldier on Sunday.
"This was something that was deliberately done by an American soldier to innocent civilians," Santorum said to reporters after delivering an energy address here. "It’s something that the proper authorities should apologize for."
An often-repeated rallying cry from Santorum on the campaign trail has been that he would not apologize for America. He has been critical of President Obama for apologizing what U.S. military officials say was an accidental burning of Korans by soldiers in Afghanistan last month.
The difference, the former Pennsylvania senator seemed to indicate, is that the Koran burning was accidental, while the massacre in southern Afghanistan was not.
One U.S soldier is in custody for the shooting, though accounts from Afghan villagers maintain that a group of soldiers were involved. The Obama administration has promised a thorough investigation and vowed to hold accountable everyone involved.
Meanwhile, Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul released this statement on the civilian killings in Afghanistan: "Gov. Romney believes the killings are reprehensible and shares the anguish of the victims' families. These acts by one soldier are not representative of the courageous and honorable conduct of our armed forces. That soldier should be held to account after a full and rapid investigation, and we must be clear that America stands with the Afghan people, not against them."


Psst...
Little Ricky - the military already has!
Maybe, one of his cracker-jack advisers can bring him up to speed!
PS: So Santorum is condoning... what is that word I'm looking for... the one the right wing nuts toss around like confetti?
Oh, yeah, APPEASEMENT!
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
Psst...
Little Ricky - the military already has!
RMAOFWL
Who can he???
Little RiKi is only focused on one thing. That'd be a woman's body.
Oh, I almost forgot; he is also interested in how close he can get to God.
First these guys complain about President Obama apologizing to foreign (especially Muslem) governments--now they want him to apologize?
On another note--while I do not condone the killings that this soldier(s) did, when our military keeps sending our soldiers on deployment after deployment, ad nauseum, what is to be expected? Our veterans come home with PTSD even if they don't have any physical wounds, and military suicides have skyrocketed! Time to bring all of our brave soldiers home and make sure that they are taken care of --both physical wounds and mental wounds. No one has ever bested the Afghanis on their turf--after 10 years it is time to learn our lesson and come home!
Nurse,
Bravo!
The military is playing Russian Roulette with these peoples lives!
They keep sending over & over & over again, until sooner or later the law of averages is stacked against them!
PS: *waves to Bev*
Did you get my e-mail?
Feisty, it really is pathetic isn't it?
At the last panic-button event.....the debate was that the President (and Karzai) apologized for their citizens too much, and looked out for their service men and women too much by being diplomatic and way, way too presidential.
Now, Santorum thinks he's being vewy kwever, by saying oh well, he WOULD apologize THIS time though - because he thinks that our military and President have not.
Maybe he can hold up a door in front of him and be less transparent. Otherwise, it is painful to watch.
Over a year ago Gen. Stanley McCrystal and others asked the President for 80 thousand additional troops to complete the mission in Afghanistan. Obama thought long and hard over months putting all his community organizing skills to task and decided that General McCrystal with 30 years of field and command experience was wrong.
Apparently, Obama harkening back to his days at the youth center playing Battleship made the decision that 30 thousand troops will be plenty.
Yesterday, did not have to happen. Where is the coverage on this war? Why has the network news stopped providing the KIA numbers like during the past administration. Remembering back not only would the nightly news post the KIA's numbers. They would post the national gas price average right after the KIA number nightly. Anybody, remember that?
God Bless our troops
off topic
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Nurse, well said.
It gets tiresome listening to the presidential wannabees who threaten war with Iran with no regard for the terrible toll these long wars have taken on our military and their families. Perhaps if President Bush had not left Afghanistan to start a second war, we would have long had our troops out of there.
My guess is that Santorum (or his staff) chose his words very carefully. Notice he says that "the proper authorities" should apologize. Therefore, if the President says anything Rick can still criticize him for always apologizing.
And the Republicans want to start a war with Iran.
Rob....The AfG surge has nothing to do with the incident under discussion. You musings are typica for someone who has never served or doesn't have a son or daughter on active duty in a war zone.
The Armed Forces were the last to recognize the effects of PTSD... There were only a dozen + open billets for medical professionals specializing in PTSD toward the end of the last administration...In fact things got so bad that Navy medical professionals had to be temporally attached to Army units. This is a wake up call. To the Obama administrations credit, they have dramatically increased funding for treatment. I shudder to think what would have occurred under a McCain/Palin administration. Scarier still is what may happen under a Romney/Santorum/Gingrich administration.
Never new US apologizes. I thought apologizing was kind of foreign-like..........Kenyan/European norms. This truely struck me that sanity could actually reign. I'll wait another news circle for something might change.
Please, end this war TODAY and bring our troops home.
Obama/Biden 2012
Um, hum, I am so confused here. So if you accidentally commit an offense, you do not apologize, but if you commit an intentional offense, you apologize? Interesting criteria, the mindlessness of these candidates is appalling.
TorpedoYou, well said.
RedDevPS, it's hard to follow their thinking because it's so illogical.
Santorum is so shallow; he would have been one of the first one to demand an apology from Afghanistan if a lot of Bibles had been burned by the Afghan people, accidentally or not.
Why should we apologize to these savages for the actions of one psychotic American? Has Afghanistan apologized for the Al Qeada training camps? These primitives get outraged and kill because their "Holy Book" gets burned too so they have no credibility when it comes to being pissed off. Kinda like liberals and their rank hypocrisy and fake outrage over the 30 yr old schoolgirl Sandra Fluke.
I'm THROUGH with the Middle East. Pull out of Afghanistan then carpet bomb any place where Taliban and Al Qeada might be.
[Santorum says U.S. should apologize for civilian killings in Afghanistan]
...as did our military shortly after the Koran burnings...waaaaaay before President Obama...
But it is quite funny, in a sad sorta way, that the usual ignorants don't recognize that FACT...
Remember when Ted "Chappaquddick" Kennedy (and other libs) blamed the Abu Ghraib non-atrocity all on George Bush? I wonder if any of those people will blame this on Obama? Not that they should, but you libs know damn well that if this massacre happened on Bush's watch you'd be screaming "war criminal" right now.
Poor Damaged...you still don't get it, do you?
Damage, I believe you are really confussing the issues surrounding each of the events.
"The Armed Forces were the last to recognize the effects of PTSD... There were only a dozen + open billets for medical professionals specializing in PTSD toward the end of the last administration...In fact things got so bad that Navy medical professionals had to be temporally attached to Army units."
Were did you get that bit of information Torpedo? Everyone has to go thru a screening when you come home. If you didn't "do well" on the screening you went to see some one. Let me ask you, did you go thru this screening? I did a few times, so I don't know what you are talking about. Now was there Navy docs in country? Yes there were. Was there AF docs in county? yes they were. Most of the doctors were reservist and national guard.
"that the usual ignorants don't recognize that FACT..."
And you know the facts? Heck, do 99% of the people on here know the facts? Do you know what happened over there besides what MSNBC told you or any other media outlet says?
And Otis the FR drunk chimes in... lol
@Paul....Sorry to bust your bubble but but the info comes directly from my daughter who is a LT CMDR and a Psych. Nurse Practitioner with a post grad degree from the University of Maryland. She was part of the post deployment screening team in Kuwait after she received her Masters in 2009 and is now in country treating Soldiers and Marines. She and her husband are active Navy. He just returned from FOB Lagman. Both have been active duty since 2001. As to the veracity of my info..you just proved my point. If you were returning from Iraq or the AFG in 2010, she may have interviewed you.
FOB lagman is a NATO base. My son in law was attached to an Army unit.
it's all obama's fault. he is president. can't take credit for the good and not the bad. everything since 2009 is obama's glory.
obama is a muslim.
if you don't believe me just ask him. or better yet just listen.
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Great put backs, Torpedo. Your input lends a lot more credence than the other crap dished out by the whackos.
Nurse,
I agree with you 100%. We should expect things like this happen - and I am surprised that they have not been happening more often. I, too, don't condone what happened but I understand how these guys crack under pressure. You cannot abuse a human mind for this long and not expect it to snap.
There is an 80% increase in suicides among these soldiers since 2003. We use them, and then forget about them when they come back. These guys give up their families, their careers, their sanity for us and what do they get back in return? We nickle and dime them on everything including health care.
TorpedoYou,
Thank you for the great information. It's good to see that, although not enough, the Obama Aministration is doing something to combat this issue. These guys deserve better from our government.
fiesty! Have you ever lived in fear? Wondered where the next bullet was going to come from? You and your president are both frauds! untill you have actually accomplished something. stfu !
Glad to see Santorum and Romney shared a moment of sanity.
That's because they think President Obama hasn't already apologized to Karzai. Wait until this evening or tomorrow when they find out they agreed with POTUS.
What I could not understand is when Santorum (and Gingrich) pontificated about the Obama Administration should apologize. Goof f==king grief. Where have these idiots been? Like they didn't know the US apologies were being channeled personally and publicly all over the place? Especially in such touchy diplomatic times?
Many of us knew they were living in a weird time warp. But now it gets super scary when these moronic loudmouths publicize their lack of knowledge/diplomacy, during an election, when "the whole world is watching."
Lets Stay and watch The Repub Heads EXPLODE .
...but...but...but...what about "American Exceptionalism"?
Oh, good grief, Santorum, pull your head out of that political sand box long enough to listen to the news. President Obama already called Kharzi; the military and State Department already apologized.
I can't believe Santorum is expressing his opinion at this stage and Republicans take him seriously. How is it possible that they would consider him qualified to be president? Damn, I forgot, they liked Palin for president too. Never mind.
HEADS UP!!!!
Jon Stewart's guest tonght on The Daily Show is Grover Norquist. This should be interesting.
Good Ol' Groper , One of the most hated men in America . I pledge to never pee on you , Grover, if I ever see you on fire . signed carpenter . Now THATS a Pledge .
Noid--that should be interesting! I wish he would ask Norquist "Who died and made you the high nabob of no-no?"
"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly
To Stewart's credit, he keeps his one-on-one discourse at a civilized level. No doubt the Tax Pledge will come up but it won't be discussed in such a mean-spirited manner.
I stand corrected Noid! Just sick and tired of the puppet masters behind the scenes pulling strings and making things worse for the rest of us. But I really would like to know why Norqiust seems to have so much control over the TPGOP--and who gave him that power. Perhaps there might be a better way to ask.
Speaking of TV shows, is world-class hypocrite David Axelrod still planning on being on Bill Maher's show? Probably. He and his ilk have no shame.
Hi, Damage123
Do you prefer he goes on InS-Hannity show so he can be bullied right fefore your eyes and not allowed to answer any question, so you can salivate ad lib?
Come on, you are smarter than that ....... OR are you?
Is your brain associated with your screen name?
What's this?? Is Beverly Feisty's echo?? Whatever Feisty slops down on her keyboard, Beverly laps up like a dog. What a pair.
What, Joseph E Parent, no comment regarding this article, just a complaint. If you don't like what is said here, go somewhere else; otherwise, stop whining.
It's kind of fun watching the RWNJ's grow more agitated with each passing day...
I can only IMAGINE what this place is going to look like when they get their asses handed to them in November! lol
Those two are the Beavis & Butthead of First Read. Did you see the other day when Feisty Dumbfux said Sandra Fluke was the new "Rosa Parks?". It was friggin' hilariou....uh oh! There go my sides hurting again!!!! Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
Feisty, what else you going to hand them when thats all they have. It is amazing to hear what these poor souls say, first we never apologize and then we must apologize someone somewhere get a grip on reallity. I feel for this serviceman and his family but I also feel for the innocent victims of this act. Imagine if this happened here, it should be no different there. If blame is to be set then it should be set on the Army medical core, his commanders and the Presidents that started and continue this battle. We have lost this one not due to the Military but due to the time we have been there. The longer we stay the more this is going to happen simply from fatigue of war. Its time to come home and care for those that have served to repair the damage done to them.
Tis,
*standing O*
If anything positive can come out of this, I'm hoping it will accelerate the time line for withdrawal!
Feisty - oh -- 'passing' day, I misread the 'a' as an 'i'. I think they have the same bad case of whatever Santorum had when he talked about that 'fire down below'. Apparently, the 'silver bullet' doesn't work anymore.
I am thinking that if the republicans want to keep making war they need to re-instate the draft. If our country wants war so bad then let all the people sacrifice. It is no accident that half the homeless are war veterans. We ask too much and then give nothing back when they get home.
Republicans like Santorum and Romney and Gingrich seem to find it easy to let others die so they think they look tough.
Romney a couple of those sons need to enlist or I don't want to hear another word about war. Chickenhawks, the whole lot of them.
Before you say our President has not been in the military, may I also remind you he is not the one beating the drums of war either.
Obama/Biden 2012
AF--You are right on! If the draft is instituted, must be for all--no exceptions granted for being children of politicians!
"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly
Rick, be careful; you're starting to go on an "apology tour" and you haven't EVEN won the GOP/TP's nomination yet, and members on YOUR SIDE of the fence don't take to kindly to that!!!!
Republicans want women to have to pay for birth control but allow the insurance company to pay for Viagra.
Republicans want to ban all abortions for any reason but not allow women to get birth control so if they were to get raped they would force them to have the rapist baby. Won't it be bad enough to have been raped now they force you to have a baby you did not want. And God forbid if the women is white and the rapist is black these same people would scream for an abortion or just leave the child on the government to take care off. Or if you are old enough remember the movie Mandigo.
Republicans want it you have a pre-existing condition and have insurance at you current job, you must stay at that job because they know you will not be able to get insurance elsewhere. Meaning lower pay, fewer benefits,
bad work environment etc. that you have to stay and contend with.
Republicans want to be to refuse insurance coverage for any reason. So if a boss/owner don’t like the way you look they can refuse to cover you.
Republicans want to cut Social Security and Medicare or to privatize it so vulture capitalist can come in raid all the proceeds and leave the people with nothing.
Republicans want to cry class warfare, yet from day one they have totally disrespected the office of the President and worked only to protect the wealthy.
Republicans refuse to admit trickle-down economics have not worked. By all account the wealthy have
gotten richer and the middle class have gotten poorer. Sounds like tickle up economics.
Republicans want smaller government yet they want use the government to force their religious beliefs on everyone. Believe what my religion says or you can’t work here.
Republicans want to restrict voters’ rights. If they want everyone to have a government issue ID, make it free to get in every state. Or make the voter requirements the same as cashing a check, getting medicine, puchasing alcohol that you need an ID for and all the transactions that requires ID. There should be one requirement for every type and that should be free to get.
And Republicans want to call President Obama a socialist. From everything the Republicans are trying to
do they want the United States to turn into a Communist nation. Just look at the control they are trying to
get over everyone’s lives.
Reagan Democrats = Obama Republicans
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
more people need to start reading the US Bill of Rights and the US Constitution.
http://score.rims.k12.ca.us/score_lessons/bill_of_rights/
Welcome to The Bill of Rights website.
On April 30, 1789, George Washington was sworn in as the first president of the United States. The new
United States Constitution had already been ratified, yet the future of the new
country was still at risk. Many of the founding fathers were demanding a "bill
of rights" which would protect the people from the government. This bill of
rights was to be added to the Constitution to guarantee individual liberties, to
make sure that the new government would not treat citizens like the old colonial
government of Great Britain did. But not everyone agreed that this bill of
rights was necessary.
Two groups opposed each other,
the Federalists who wanted a strong government and no bill of rights, and the
Anti-Federalists who wanted more power for the states and a bill of rights. To
reach an agreement, James Madison promised to add a bill of rights to the
Constitution.
The repukelickens are at it again! Now lil Ricky says he would apollogise, this time. And Gov. Rumnuts sent his aides to do his apollogising! Amazing what these people wont do or say to get a vote? I know they all lie, but this time, these two especially? Come on people, its time to wake up! OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
Heh, Ricky,
You really got me LOST on this one. I really don't know what to believe anymore:
Should we apologize?
Should we NOT apologize?
On what occasions should we apologize?
On what criteria?
Should we NOT apologize when Obama is presenting the apology?
Should we apologize when any "proper authorities" other than Obama is presenting the apology?
Ricky, don't you see that I am losing it.
Oh God, please give me the wisdom and the help to understand these nuts.
To dream the impossible dream....(that is trying to understand the GNOP)
Gen. Stanley McCrystal was the most incompetent leader in history. The mistake Obama made is when the general talked about winning the hearts and minds of these people he should have been fired immediately. One can argue about ever being there but once we made the commitment Marshall Law should have been declared and groups of over three outlawed. Religious leaders who preached rebellion shot. A policy of of zero tolerance to rules and laws. When the Taliban pays fifty thousand to suicide bombers families we should have made it plain that their families would suffer greatly from their actions. I am totally against war except as a last resort but if it is fought it should be for a speedy and quick victory with no rules. And our military industrial should not profit from it.
Wowwwwww, Becks72,
Its is like reading Goebles or Mussolini.
You shouldn't be directing any group of over two persons in your life.
But I bet that in your family, your wife is the one who wears the pants.
Typical!
Becks
Before we can comfortably kill our enemies, we need to demonize them and their families. You do not appear to need much indoctrination. You can now report to the front lines. Please do not stray over the line and start killing unarmed non-combatants.
obama is the most incompetent leader in history
Since the "enemy" does not wear uniforms telling them apart is difficult if not impossible. For those that think my approach to harsh I have a question. We tried "police actions" , "winning hearts and minds" spent trillions of dollars, crippled tens of thousands mentally or physically and please tell me what we have accomplished except to enrich the likes of Halliburton industries, Black Water and other questionable enterprises? Unarmed non-combatants with IAD,s under their robes or children with explosive vests. When will the ignorant learn that war is hell and the damage we are doing to our children. The lessons of Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan have not affected the arm chair generals who clamor for war. Their stupidity can not be educated away. We are a militarist society that spends more than all other Nations in the world combined, seven times more than China. We create terrorists from our interference in other Nations sovereignty. We are sowing our own seeds of destruction.
WOW! Rickie wants it both ways. What goes that make HIM; Rush?????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSRSHUGOOn4
From the article: "An often-repeated rallying cry from Santorum on the campaign trail has been that he would not apologize for America."
So has reality finally intruded on the fantasy world of the hypocritical religious extremist? That must hurt!
I don't think they hurt. They are too busy inflicting pain on others.
Ricky, a bully never apologizes for his actions but a real man does. It is good that you have finally figured out what leadership is all about. Of course that is only one aspect of leadership and true manhood is all about and I doubt you'll figure out the rest of it any time soon considering how long this took you.
OK Ricky, we should apologize for the murders because they were deliberate, but not for burning Korans because that was accidental. So if I borrow my buddy's car and get into an accident because I wasn't paying attention to traffic, I don't have to apologize to him, and he should be OK with that. But if I deliberately run his car into a tree, he should be OK with it if I say I'm sorry. Do you have any friends who would let me borrow their car?
big difference between burning worthless jiberish written by muslim fanatics and the innocent killing of civilian men, women and children.
it's all obama's fault. he gets all of the credit and all of the blame for everything since 2009.
honest jo
re: your earlier post, you're mistaken, the most incompetent leader in history co-starred in a film with a
chimpanzee.
The other day, I told all of you out there in cyber land that Ricky was not trustworthy of his word..........flip flopper. That is why we voted him out of the Senate in PA. Someone get me a beer......................
While I am glad that you and other Pennsylvanians did yourselves justice by voting Santorum out of the Senate, could you PLEASE do something so that he will not come on to the national scene...EVER!!!!
Just a small critique, DKL.
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I wonder why I'm having such a hard time finding any mention of this video from the main stream media..???
Perhaps it's because they need Santorum or Romney to win this thing so Obama can be reelected??
Who Cares what Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney have to say on this issue.
I am sure the people of Afghanistan could care less. Santorum to them looks like extremist Taliban, I'm sure the women can relate, and Mitt Romney looks like their corrupt RICH leader Karzai.