Romney mocks pro-Obama film as 'infomercial'

JACKSON, MS -- Mitt Romney on Friday mocked a 17-minute video about President Obama's first term in office as an "infomercial" that glosses over the president's failures.

"The president's people put together a 17-minute infomercial. They're calling it a documentary. I don't think so. It’s an infomercial," Romney said of the film, "The Road We've Traveled," by producer/director Davis Guggenheim.

At his second and final campaign appearance in Mississippi, which hosts its primary on Tuesday, took particular umbrage at Guggenheim's suggestion last night on CNN that the only challenge in making the film was that the president had "too many accomplishments" to fit into 17 minutes.

"I have some suggestions for the president and for the producer," Romney said today at a town hall in Jackson. "First of all, talk to the 24 million Americans who are out of work or underemployed in this country."

Ticking off a list of people he said were negatively affected by Obama's policies with whom Guggenheim should have spoken, Romney concluded: "I’ll tell ya, I’ve got a long list of people for that producer to talk to, and I’ll if someone’s looking for things that the president’s done wrong, it’s a long, long, long list."

Romney renewed his assault on the president just hours after the monthly employment reports showed the U.S. economy had added 227,000 jobs last month, while the 8.3 percent unemployment rate held steady.

The former Massachusetts governor ignored reporters’ questions about the report, and did not address it in his remarks, leveling his usual criticisms at the president instead.

"Don't forget by the way that this President, how many months ago was it, 37 months ago, told us that if he could borrow $787 billion, almost $1 trillion, he would keep unemployment below 8 percent.  It has not been below 8 percent since. This president has not succeeded, this president has failed, and that's the reason we're going to get rid of him in 2012," Romney said to a standing ovation.

Romney received a warm welcome here, and responded in kind, again praising the Southern cooking he's enjoyed during his brief swing through the region.

"Mornin' y'all. Good to be with you," Romney said at the beginning of his remarks. "I got started right this morning with a biscuit and some cheesy grits. I'll tell you! Delicious."

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I got started right this morning with a biscuit and some cheesy grits.

America has a dia-besity problem, but keep pushing those refined carbs and high fat. I mean, isn't that what Republicans say, let the free market take care of every problem.

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#1 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:17 PM EST

Thanks Amy

Just what did Robney accomplish by singing and pandering to the people in each state he visited but little voter turn out? At least President Obama can sing

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#1.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:18 PM EST
Comment author avatarRob in ma-3189632Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Please congratulate the following US Democratic Senators that voted yesterday in favor of the Keystone Pipeline

Max Baucus and Jon Tester of Montana, Kent Conrad of North Dakota, Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, Claire McCaskill of Missouri and Jim Webb of Virginia

These senators and five other democratic senators are concerned about the effect of high gas prices on the American consumer and the economy. These senator understand what an "all of the above" approach really is.

Barack Obama is FOR higher gas prices. The other day in a press conference he back pedaled from his previous statements in which he stated that he WANTS gas prices to go higher because he is "heading into an election". This is one of his few honest moments. He only cares about re-election.

Gas prices are already hitting $6.00 a gallon is parts Florida and California and $5.00 across many other states.

OBAMA OWNS THESE HIGH GAS PRICES.

Production is up on private lands out of Obama's control Federal land production is way down. Off shore exploration is halted by Obama. How many democrat legislatures and democrat governors have proposed raising taxes on gasoline in the past year when prices weren't so high. Can you imagine if they were successful in their attempts?

OBAMA OWNS THESE HIGH GAS PRICES!

If you want affordable gasoline support the Republican Party or those brave Democrat Senators named above that told this most arrogant President that they are on the side of the people.

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#1.2 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:34 PM EST

Three Cheers for Obama!

He helped create 200,000 burger flipping jobs.

Great Job Barack!

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#1.3 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:40 PM EST

In the GOP/Koch party there is no truth. Their angle is that the truth is suspect. They contend that there is no truth. Limbaugh has been making $50 Million a year to lie and mislead millions of Americans.

For example in the news, 200+ dead people have committed voter fraud (Proven Wrong).

Democrats like the FACTS: Nearly 4 million jobs net private sector jobs created over the last two years.

Meanwhile, Republican Governors have fired 700,000+ public sector worker, refused FEMA dollars and turned down $Billions in Railway building cash for their states. GOP congressionals voted 3 times against creating 2 million jobs in the Presidents American Jobs Act.

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#1.4 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:40 PM EST

"If we're going to take control of our energy future, if we're going to avoid these gas-price spikes down the line, then we need a sustained all-of-the-above strategy that develops every available source of American energy -- oil, gas, wind, solar, nuclear, biofuels and more."

- President Obama 2/2012

All of the above, except for Keystone, and new nuclear plants, and new refineries.

We get Obama. What he says isn't what he means.

Obama 2012 - "All of the above, except those things"

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#1.5 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:42 PM EST
Comment author avatarRob in ma-3189632Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Go Mitt!!!!

He is a WINNER, always has been. Anybody that ever worked for Mitt has nothing to say but good things. His father left him MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of dollars. What did Mitt do? He gave it all away. So he started with nothing and built a fortune by educating himself by working hard. Because of his work with Bain thousands of jobs were created and the families of those workers prospered.

Mitt beleives in American values and self reliance. You know, the old fashion AMERICAN way. We need to get this LEFTIST out of the White House. He is single handedly and purposely destroying the fabric of what made this nation great.

WE NEED MITT ROMNEY AS THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

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#1.6 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:52 PM EST

And finally at comment #6 (or so) a comment about the actual article...

So what if it's an infomercial? Romney, you don't have any positive-only infomercials?

And what exactly has he "failed" at? The 8% thing is not true, and no can predict that kind of thing anyway. Otherwise, I think he don't OK, not great, but OK giving the circumstances.

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#1.7 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:59 PM EST

Actually, Rob, several people who have done deals with Mitt said that although he was always prepared, he didn't adjust very well or very quickly if things didn't go exactly to plan. Not the type of guy who would make a good president.

And Mitt started with nothing? Who paid for his college education again? And the families of the workers that he laid off while at Bain would disagree......

There is a difference between committing yourself to the financial success of a company and committing to your own financial success. Romney didn't care whether the companies he purchased while at Bain succeeded or failed. If they succeeded he made money. If they didn't succeed he sold them off or filed bankruptcy and still made money off the management fees.

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#1.8 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:05 PM EST

Sure Rob,

Waffle Flip Romney for President.

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#1.9 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:09 PM EST

Rob in ma:

Please post a link to those gas prices. Highest I could find was $4.44 for regular and $4.60 for premium.

Where is gas $6 a gallon? Which states will soon have $5 gas? Or do we have to call you a liar.

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#1.10 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:26 PM EST

Where is gas $6 a gallon? Which states will soon have $5 gas? Or do we have to call you a liar?

http://www.californiagasprices.com/

Suck on that one

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#1.11 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:31 PM EST

Rob,

There are always places that have higher gas prices and places that have lower prices in both good and bad times.

Why don’t you just use the National average like most people? The National average is currently at $3.77 a gallon.

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#1.13 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:49 PM EST

So right Dennis, here in my area, my county has 5c more added in in local taxes than the next county north of me. I'm surprised someone like Rob wouldn't factor that into the price equation. Wink Wink

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#1.14 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:56 PM EST

GNOPers like Rob accept fiction over fact......because "they can't handle the truth" (From "A few good men" - witch the GNOP ain't)!

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#1.15 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:22 PM EST

Romney should scutinize his own record as a governor because he sucked. Yes, he cut taxes for corporations while he raised fees on the rest of us. He brags about the Olympics (while he fails to admit he got help from the taxpayers) - he forget to "brag" about the Big Dig that he continued to run as a failed project that we are paying for, and will be paying for.

While the unemployment rate under Romney did fall (from 5.6 to 4.7), it was largely due to contraction of the labor force and the only state that saw a sharper drop in its labor force during Romney’s term was Louisiana, the state that was destroyed by Hurricane Katrina in 2005. Massachusetts lagged behind the country in virtually every economic measure under Romney’s term but after Romney left, the Mass economy has rebounded much faster from the next recession it faced, creating jobs at nearly twice the national rate and ranking in the top 10 nationally.

Romney campaign does not challenge this statistic but explains that he took office in the midst of a recession -which is true. But since he could not do it for Massachusetts, how is he going to be able to do it for the country??????

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#1.16 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:33 PM EST

Rob in ma-3189632

Go Mitt!!!!

He is a WINNER, always has been. Anybody that ever worked for Mitt has nothing to say but good things

hahahahaha, the only people that would have anything good to say about 2-Faced Romney are the losers on WAAF. Rob, how did Romney balance the Mass budget? By raising fees from licenses, registrations, marriage certs, etc. Everyone is paying more in Mass because of Romney and I have not met one person yet that LOVES Romney.

Maybe it's the corporations (they are people, you know) that love Romney.

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#1.17 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:39 PM EST

I have not met one person yet that LOVES Romney.

Nice to meet you Bayllie

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#1.18 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:44 PM EST

Rob in ma-3189632

I have not met one person yet that LOVES Romney.

Nice to meet you Bayllie

So you're the other person besides Romney who loves Romney. You are actually admitting that YOU are the only person who loves Romney?

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#1.19 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:49 PM EST

Dennis,

The National average means nothing if you are paying a higher amount. I paid $5.57 a gallon this morning. That's the number I am concern about.

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#1.20 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:50 PM EST

You are actually admitting that YOU are the only person who loves Romney?

We are many. And the number is growing.

Come November you and the in-the-tank media will be in for a BIG surprise!

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#1.21 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:55 PM EST

The National average means nothing if you are paying a higher amount. I paid $5.57 a gallon this morning. That's the number I am concern about.

Obama supporter only talk about numbers and statistics. Numbers and statistics that are skewed, slanted, and many times just plain made up.

Romney will be talking about the real people he has met traveling across the country. Real people that suffer because of this LEFTIST President and his FAILED policies.

That will be Obama undoing. Obama made a bad situation far worse than it ever needed to be.

Obama is a FAILURE!

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#1.22 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:01 PM EST

Rob in ma-3189632

You are actually admitting that YOU are the only person who loves Romney?

We are many. And the number is growing.

Mass is a liberal state. Since 2-Faced Romney is trying his hardest to convince that he is a conservative, it will bite him come November. He can flip flop back to being a moderate if when it's convenient but people don't forget and he will not win Massachusetts.

Rob, there is a reason why Romney decided not to seek reelection as Gov. of Mass. He was going to be one-termer one way or another.

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#1.23 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:02 PM EST

Rob in ma-3189632

The National average means nothing if you are paying a higher amount. I paid $5.57 a gallon this morning.

I thought you live in Mass, Rob - where did you pay $5.57?.

You are a good Faux News soldier. They sent you their memo that specifies what they are allowed to talk about: gas prices, gas prices, gas prices...

I've asked you this before but you dance around this question like a ballerina. If presidents had anything to do with oild prices, why did gas go up to $4.50 under Bush/Cheney who are oil people. Bush family is in the oil business (I think GWB even banrupted an oil company).

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#1.24 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:06 PM EST

thetotas,

It is the same as “all politics is local.” But it is important for month to month and year to year comparisons to eliminate/reduce the noise. I’m sure the local price is important to you. Here the average in central Ohio is only about $3.40 and it is almost always below the national average. Even so I watch the National average to get a reasonable picture of the trend.

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#1.25 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:12 PM EST

[Please congratulate the following US Democratic Senators that voted yesterday in favor of the Keystone Pipeline]

Raab, you have no clue regarding Keystone, do you? Why not just admit it now and get your suffering over with?

Personally, I am very surprised at the GOP reaction to the Keystone XL pipeline fiasco.

1) First the GOP got Keystone and the EPA to agree to consider other routes through Nebraska back in November. Then the GOP called for Obama to decide using the old route and gave him two weeks to do so. In any situation like this the conservative thing to do is to vote "No" rather than be stampeded.

2) There is a huge issue with taking millions of acres through eminent domain and confiscatory easements. I would think that the conservatives would seek to prevent the government from taking land from people who don't want to sell it or granting easements without compensation. This would be the most massive use of eminent domain in the history of the country.

3) It is the people in states that the pipeline does not cross who are for it. The citizens of the states it runs through are virtually all against it, as is the REPUBLICAN governor.

4) The pipeline would belong to a Canadian company. We were supposed to take land from American farmers by force if necessary and then give it to a foreign company. This is a use to which eminent domain should never be put to use.

5) The reason that the Canadians want to send the sand, clay, oil tar slurry down a pipe is because it is so highly acidic and abrasive that it is causing environmental problems in Canada already. But sending heated highly acidic and highly abrasive down a pipe across the US is okay? This is an environmental problem that Texas does not need.

6) The oil and refinery products that resulted would be targeted for China. They would not have gone into the gas tanks of American or Canadian citizens, yet those same American and Canadian taxpayers would have footed the bill for any spill. So we wouldn't get the oil or gas, just the toxic sand and sludge.

7) The pipeline was engineered (as is much made to be bought by Americans these days) to the absolute minimum in order to maximize profits. This is not something on which to try to get by with the minimum. But on the other hand why would the Canadians worry about it. Not their problem.

8) And lastly, the Keystone company was promising "as many as 120,000" full time jobs. The GOP jumped on that despite the fact that only about 1200 long term and 4500-6500 short term jobs would result, most
of them for Canadian citizens and not Americans. Even the 4500/6500 number is being disputed. When did the GOP start trying to decrease unemployment in Canada? Americans would be the ones holding the SLOW signs during the construction.

The biggest problem for me is that a foreign profit-making corporation would be able to successfully lobby the American Congress to take land from Americans and give it to them. And that foreign corporation gave
every indication that it would act politically, but not necessarily responsibly. I am against many current uses of eminent domain but this one is waaaaay off the scale. No American should consider it a good thing. This isn't just taking the land for the actual pipeline, but for pumping stations, easements on either side, and 40-foot wide access to the full length of the pipeline by easements that Keystone can require the individual states to make.

How do conservatives Republicans justify such a radical left-wing socialist/Marxist takeover of private land that only benefits a single foreign company?

They can’t…

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#1.26 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:34 PM EST

apparently I asked the wrong person the question so:

thetotas, where did you pay $5.57 for gas?

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#1.27 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:39 PM EST

[All of the above, except for Keystone, and new nuclear plants, and new refineries.]

Smiffy, if it weren't for lies, you'd have nothing, right?

Right...

Obama will approve the pipeline, just not in its current route...but you knew that already, right?

Right...

Obama has approved two new *NOOKULUR reactors...but you knew that, right?

Right...

And Obama is all for building new refineries, but it seems the "capitalist" oil companies keep shutting down the ones they already have...but you knew that already, right?

Right...of course you did...liar.

*I spelled it that way so you would recognize the word...you know...since you're such a Bush fan...

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#1.28 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:42 PM EST

And Obama is all for building new refineries

Sure Mickey! Don't you remember what Whitney said...."crack is wack"

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#1.29 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 5:36 PM EST

Do you have any proof that our President is against it?

What about Bush, was he against it? We needed new ones for a couple decades so why didn’t the great oil men, Bush and Cheney, suggest it, do it?

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#1.30 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 5:50 PM EST

bayllie,

I paid $5.57 a gal., in Yucaipa, Ca.

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#1.31 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 6:18 PM EST

Well, if Obama's documentary is an infomercial than I'm gonna buy its product! And compared to Slick Mitt's negative offensive, Obama's film is as positive a proton.

Ahh, Rob. Still buying that Fox news BS, eh?? Well, my advice is to lay off the kool-aid and get some common sense. Mitt Romney is a FAILURE. Tell me this; if he is so "with the people," why does his tax plan disproportionately benefit the rich and uses borrowed money from China to pay for it?? Why is he against raising taxes to reduce the deficit when many Americans want taxes to be raised for the rich??? Why will his supply-side policies increase income inequality in the United States??? At best, Slick Mitt is a befuddled old flapjack who will say anything to get elected. I'd jump off the Empire State Building than vote for this idiot, and I'd vote for Obama a million times if I could. This nation needs a sane group of leaders, and the GOP offers NOBODY. The only Republican I considered voting for was Jon Huntsman, but I took him off the list after he dropped out and after I realized that he supported the Ryan budget. The death of the GOP will be greatest gift any person could ever give to this nation.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

DEMOCRAT CONGRESS 2012

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#1.32 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 7:24 PM EST

[Don't you remember what Whitney said...."crack is wack"]

Raab, seeing that you can't refute ANYTHING I posted, we get it...you don't like black people...just admit it already and get it over with...you're making an idiot of yourself.

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#1.33 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 9:08 PM EST

"Don't forget by the way that this President, how many months ago was it, 37 months ago, told us that if he could borrow $787 billion, almost $1 trillion, he would keep unemployment below 8 percent. It has not been below 8 percent since. This president has not succeeded, this president has failed, and that's the reason we're going to get rid of him in 2012," Romney said to a standing ovation.

Mr. Romney is suppose to be the economic savior, yet cannot understand that the estimated 8% unemployment rate was based on a 2008 Q4 BEA advance report showing GDP shrinking by -3.8% (released January 30, 2009), which ended up being -6.3% (released March 26, 2009) in the final report. Either Mr. Romney is indicating that he isn't a very good businessman and cannot understand that or he is being disingenuous.

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 passed the House on January 28, 2009 (244—188) and the Senate on February 10, 2009 (61-37). Reported by the joint conference committee on February 12, 2009; agreed to by the House on February 13, 2009 (246—183) and by the Senate on February 13, 2009 (60—38). Signed into law by President Barack Obama on February 17, 2009.

The stimulus bill was passed before anyone knew how bad the economic down turn had been. Was an 8% unemployment rate optimistic and naive? Yes on both instances, but Obama had only been in office for 28 days when the stimulus bill was passed. Given the circumstances, I think the fixation on an 8% unemployment rate is juvenile.

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#1.34 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:02 AM EST

THANK YOU, Greg.

Nice points. To be correct, Obama himself didn't even make the promise. It was some of his economic advisers BEFORE he was put in office.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

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#1.35 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:08 AM EST

Raab, seeing that you can't refute ANYTHING I posted

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-25/nebraska-s-governor-plans-to-urge-obama-to-proceed-with-keystone.html

Mickey, why do you LIE about things that are so easy to verify as LIES.

I think you are catching the Obama-itus. He LiES constantly too thinking that everybody that listens to his crap will believe it hook, line, and sinker.

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#1.36 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:23 AM EST

Either Mr. Romney is indicating that he isn't a very good businessman and cannot understand that or he is being disingenuous.

I'm going with disingenuous. Why? Because if Mr. Romney comes off as plastic man to most people, complete with all his canned speeches and disingenuous comments. So the choice for President is clear...

Obama/Biden 2012.

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#1.37 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:49 AM EST

Rob,
From your link dated 1/25/12 - “The president should -- I call it a conditional yes --say, ‘Yes, TransCanada, if you’re willing to move forward and take a risk that Nebraska will get it done,’ which we will, ‘you go ahead and start building from our northern border and our southern border,’” Heineman said.

POLITICO (02-27-12): President Barack Obama "welcomes" the news that TransCanada will start building the southern portion of the Keystone XL pipeline. TransCanada announced Monday that it will treat the section of the pipeline project from Cushing, Okla., to Texas refineries as a stand-alone project and not part of the presidential permit process that has tied up approval of the entire project starting in Canada.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/73329.html

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#1.38 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:51 AM EST

thetotas

I paid $5.57 a gal., in Yucaipa, Ca.

that's weird because not one gas station shows anything over $4.43. I think you got taken...or your're inflating the $/gal for gas as propaganda.

  • 5 votes
#1.39 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:05 AM EST

There are two main things that the voters will be concerned about in November - Jobs and Gasoline prices, and Obama is in serious trouble on both counts;

Jobs - The Unemployment Rate when Obama was elected was 6.5% (just google unemployment rate for October 2008), but it is now 8.3% and has been over 8% for every full month Obama has been in office - OBAMA HAS FAILED.

Gasoline prices - The price of gasoline was $1.84 per gallon the week Obama took office, and it is now approaching $5.00 per gallon - and both Obama and his 'Energy Czar' have stated publicly that they like very high fossil fuel energy prices to force people to buy 'green energy' - and their policies are working - OBAMA HAS FAILED.

No amount of 'spin' by Obama's supporters will change these basic FACTS, and the voters are not buying 'it's Bush's fault' any longer.

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#1.40 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:23 AM EST

Yet the all-time record high for gas prices on a National average still belongs to Bush in 2008.

At the last Press Conference: Ed Henry: "Your critics will say on Capitol Hill that you want gas prices to go higher, because you have said before that will wean the American people off fossil fuels onto renewable fuels. How do you respond to that?"

President Obama: Ed, just from a political perspective, do you think that the President of the United States going into re-election wants gas prices to go higher? Is there anybody here who thinks that makes a lot of sense? Here’s the bottom line with respect to gas prices. I want gas prices lower because they hurt families.”

"We need an all-out, all-in, all-of-the-above strategy that develops every source of American energy — a strategy that's cleaner and cheaper and full of new jobs," our President said in the SOTU.

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#1.41 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:33 AM EST

ROY WILSON-336103

Jobs - The Unemployment Rate when Obama was elected was 6.5% (just google unemployment rate for October 2008), but it is now 8.3% and has been over 8% for every full month Obama has been in office - OBAMA HAS FAILED.

why would I google unemployment for Oct of 2008 when Obama didn't take office until Jan 2009????? 1/2009 is 7.6% and growing Roy, that is an important fact. Growing because out financial market imploded.

Gasoline prices - The price of gasoline was $1.84 per gallon the week Obama took office, and it is now approaching $5.00 per gallon - and both Obama and his 'Energy Czar' have stated publicly that they like very high fossil fuel energy prices to force people to buy 'green energy' - and their policies are working - OBAMA HAS FAILED.

Roy, we've talked about this: presidents have as much influence over our oil market as much as they have influence over foreign oil market. It's a commodity and prices are dictated by the speculators.

Even O'Reilly of Faux News is questioning if prices are being fixed because the demand is low and supply is high which means the prices should be going down.

  • 9 votes
#1.42 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:54 AM EST

baylie,

Excellent point! The difference on unemployment shows an awful trend over the 3 month period. From 6.5% to 7.6% is a full 1.1% gain and a 17% increase and if you extend that rate another 9 months it results in {wait for it} over 10% unemployment.

  • 10 votes
#1.43 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:11 AM EST

Dennis, Columbus, Ohio

From 6.5% to 7.6% is a full 1.1% gain and a 17% increase and if you extend that rate another 9 months it results in {wait for it} over 10% unemployment.

I like how people like Roy compare these statistics like we live in a vacuum. The is no way anyone can compare the state of this nation when Bush took over and when Obama took over. It's like comparing apples to a rotten fish. Roy thinks that taking over a country that is in the middle of a total financial collapse and two unpaid wars is the same as taking over a country with low unemployment, balanced budget, and no wars.

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#1.44 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:41 AM EST

bayllie,

Then we will have Roy saying that the stimulus was supposed to stop the trend when the first dollars didn’t go out until July, a full 9 months after the rapid increase in unemployment started.

  • 9 votes
#1.45 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:59 AM EST

Rob in MA ... Since you're opperating under the guise of someone who is well informed... let
me go ahead and enlighten you... the company behind the pipeline, TransCanada,
has admitted themselves (and there are papers to prove it) that they want the
pipeline not to make oil and gas cheaper in the U.S. but rather to have access
to the Gulf Coast's better shipping lanes... giving them the ability to send
their oil anywhere else in the world OTHER THAN the United States.
Currently,
TransCanada has an oversupply of oil... which causes the oil sold through the
north coast to be cheaper since it would cost them too much money to send it
anywhere else. If anything... we should REFUSE the pipeline... and increase what
we buy from Canada through the north coast... which already GREATLY benefits the
U.S. Midwest with CHEAPER OIL.
So... why are you in favor of creating a giant
scar right down the center of the U.S. only to benefit South America? Why do you
support a measure that THE VERY COMPANY BEHIND IT said THEMSELVES could be used
to ADD $4Billion to the U.S. fuel bill? It's called SUPPLY & DEMAND... and
the way it works is like this... they have more oil than they can get rid of...
so we pay less for it... once we allow them to use our country to help them send
their OVERSUPPLY everywhere else in the world... our prices go up... in fact...
the same company has even said that the prices in CANADA would likely go up as
well! Stop thinking that companies are your closest relatives... they care only
about making more money... NO OIL COMPANY IS GOING TO HELP YOU FIGURE OUT A WAY
TO GET OIL CHEAPER! THEY ALL WANT IT TO COST MORE... PROFIT IS THEIR GOD.

  • 9 votes
#1.46 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:01 PM EST

mikesedor

that they want the pipeline not to make oil and gas cheaper in the U.S. but rather to have access
to the Gulf Coast's better shipping lanes...

Mike, great point. Republicans claim that this will benefit the little people but there are no companies in this world that would make anything cheaper because making anything cheaper takes away from maximizing their profit. Only Faux followers belive that the pipeline will benefit them in some miraculous way.

Dennis,

I enjoy posts like Roy's because the better Obama administration is doing, the more desperate the little Republican soldiers get. They write the same thing over and over...and that tells me two things: it's either the same person with multiple screen names or different people who follow the Faux Cult talking points: talk about God, Gays, Birth Control, Vaginal Probing or Gas Prices.

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#1.47 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:10 PM EST

I say build the damn pipeline on a SAFER route and use 85% of the fuel transported for US markets. If TransCanada refuses, than they can kiss my ass. America should not risk it's health and environment for some foreign company who openly admitted that they want to exploit the oil glut in the Midwest, which would drive prices up FURTHER, without even using the oil for US consumers.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

  • 7 votes
#1.48 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:15 PM EST

Romney mocks pro-Obama film as 'infomercial'

There's a gimme. What else would he do, praise it?

So the economy has been getting better and better and he wants the reins of government to what? Oh yeah, like the last republican steering us, crash it.

No thanks.

  • 6 votes
#1.49 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:15 PM EST

Roy Wilson,

I think the American voter takes more into account than just tangible goods. There's the threat of war, women rights, retirement benefits, and human rights.

The republicans have attacked or indorsed all of them.

The republican's biggest challenge is to convince enough people that putting a chicken hawk in charge of the hen house is, somehow, a good idea.

  • 5 votes
#1.50 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:24 PM EST

[Mickey, why do you LIE about things that are so easy to verify as LIES.]

Raab, you didn't read your own link, did you...

Nebraska Governor Dave Heineman said he will urge President Barack Obama to reverse his decision denying a permit for TransCanada Corp. (TRP)’s Keystone XL pipeline and let construction begin in segments in U.S. border states.

Heineman, a Republican and chairman of the National Governors Association, said this approach would give his state time to conduct an environmental review without stalling the $7 billion project. He said in an interview yesterday in Seattle that he will raise the issue with Obama next month during an NGA meeting in Washington.

“The president should -- I call it a conditional yes --say, ‘Yes, TransCanada, if you’re willing to move forward and take a risk that Nebraska will get it done,’ which we will, ‘you go ahead and start building from our northern border and our southern border,’” Heineman said.

All this in the first three paragraphs...

Oh. My. God...you are dense! Of course the Nebraska governor is for the pipeline...EVERYONE is for the pipeline...even Obama...the governor is AGAINST the pipeline running through his states ONLY source of fresh water..idiot...hence the new environmental review.

Try going back and reading your own link...simple third grade reading comprehension comes into play here...which you are sorely lacking.

  • 6 votes
#1.51 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:39 PM EST

bayllie "ROY WILSON-336103 why would I google unemployment for Oct of 2008 when Obama didn't take office until Jan 2009?????"

Because that's what the Unemployment Rate was when Obama was elected, and he promised to make things better - DUH.

In a similar fashion, we will only know what the Unemployment Rate is for October 2012 before the election, not what it will be in January 2013 when the new President takes office.

  • 2 votes
#1.52 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:06 PM EST

ROY,

That is extreme twisted logic and you know it.

  • 8 votes
#1.53 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:11 PM EST

Roy's connection with logic, truth, and integrity is tenuous at best,

  • 7 votes
#1.54 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:17 PM EST

Unfortunately, Roy, the unemployment skyrocketed up for the next few months of Obama's presidency due to the raging recession; and Obama's stimulus went into effect a few months later. Fortunately, after the stimulus went into effect unemployment steadily declined until reaching its current low of 8.3%.

And sorry to say, but there is not going to be a new president for another 5 years. Come January 2013, Obama will be reelected, and the Republicans will receive a crushing, and hopefully paralyzing, blow, from which it may never recover. And the United States will start a recovery from the past 30 years of conservative mismanagement and failed economic policies.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

DEMOCRAT CONGRESS 2012

GOP/TEA PARTY EXTINCT 2012

  • 8 votes
#1.55 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:15 PM EST

Dennis, Columbus, Ohio:

You wrote:

"ROY,

That is extreme twisted logic and you know it."

That's the scary part, Dennis. He doesn't know it's twisted. He is the quintessential right-wing apologist/defender and he is a first-order follower of Rove's Rules for Reactionaries.

  • 8 votes
#1.56 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:43 PM EST

[He is the quintessential right-wing apologist/defender and he is a first-order follower of Rove's Rules for Reactionaries.]

If Roy's name wasn't mentioned in your post, I would swear you were referring to Kirk...

  • 5 votes
#1.57 - Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:28 AM EDT

Freshieee "Unfortunately, Roy, the unemployment skyrocketed up for the next few months of Obama's presidency due to the raging recession; and Obama's stimulus went into effect a few months later. Fortunately, after the stimulus went into effect unemployment steadily declined until reaching its current low of 8.3%."

If you look at the job loss trend line, you will see that job losses bottomed out even before Obama was sworn in and there was a pronounced improvement in the job loss picture BEFORE A SINGLE DOLLAR OF THE STIMULUS WAS SPENT.

Trying to portray the 'stimules' (which Obama said would keep unemployment under 8% - lol) as a success defies reality when you look at the facts, especially when you consider that the Unemployment Rate continued to climb to over 10% well after the 'stimulus' spending began. The Unemployment Rate under Obama has never even come close to what it was when he took office - Face facts - OBAMA HAS FAILED MISERABLY.

  • 1 vote
#1.58 - Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:53 AM EDT

Momentum … you cannot turn an aircraft carrier on a dime

  • 5 votes
#1.59 - Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:21 AM EDT

[The Unemployment Rate under Obama has never even come close to what it was when he took office...]

And your very sentence drives home the point as to just how badly George Bush and the Republicans screwed America and Americans. But it's all a game to you, now isn't it.

But there is a bright spot: today we celebrate what is know as Daylight Saving Time. It was the little shrub that signed legislation to extend this little gem by a month.

The crowing achievment of a George Bush presidency: Extending Daylight Saving Time

The GOP has left quite a legacy of crowning achievments:

Extending Daylight Saving Time, renaming post offices, commemmorative coins, and vaginal probes.

Carry that torch high, Roy...

  • 5 votes
#1.60 - Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

Mickey, NY "The GOP has left quite a legacy of crowning achievments:"

I can't wait to see Obama's 'legacy of crowning achievements'. The open question is whether Obama's 'Misery Index' will exceed that of Jimmy Carter.

The similarities between Carter in 1980 and Obama in 2012 are uncanny.

  • 1 vote
#1.61 - Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

Except that President Obama will be reelected by a large margin in November.

  • 4 votes
#1.62 - Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

Roy in your misguided efforts to be loved by the right wing nut jobs on this blog you fail to acknowledge a few facts yourself: 1) Jobs did not "bottom out" before Obama took office you later stated in your own blog that after a few months jobless rate began to decline. It seems your bottoming out happened way after the you said it did . 2) Obama did not say he would keep the unemployment below 7% with his stimulus package he stated that unemployment could go higher, he stated several times over the last 3 years that it will be a long slog for unemployment to go below 8%, perhaps you missed the 100 times Obama had said that ... you must have been at a tea party or something when the President said those things. That was of course if Congress did not slice and dice his stimulus package... which they did ...slowing the rate of decline for joblessness.

Now that unemployment is going down(job growth for the last 23 months in a row) you people want to slap Obama with the gas prices going up even though he has little to do with gas prices. Those people that you bow to at the alter of corporate greed have alot more blood on their hands at keeping the gas prices high, and it depends on where you live, Iowa for example has gas prices at 2 dollars a gallon most of the midwest have normal gas prices... I guess you are blaming Obama in most cases.

Lastly the almighty pipe line which is the republicans favorite wet pipe dream is another example of not being in touch with reality . Let me ask you... if you were a Corporate CEO would you sell your gas where you can get 3 dollars a gallon or in Europe or in China where you can get 6? Thats were your oil will be going after the pipe line is completed....certainly not here.

  • 2 votes
#1.63 - Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:43 PM EDT

Oh Roy, still bought by right-wing rhetoric and Reaganism??

The truth is that the monthly job losses extended into the positive zone about a year after the stimulus took effect and ever since there have been 23 months of consecutive private sector employment growth. (here is the link http://www.blogforarizona.com/blog/2012/02/best-monthly-jobs-report-since-the-great-recession-began-four-years-ago.html) In addition, while unemployment has not been under 8% for nearly 3-4 years, neither Obama or his administration made a public pledge that the stimulus would keep unemployment under 8%, contrary to what the right says. To be truthful, two of his economic advisers offered that projection, but remarked that it was marked with significant "uncertainty."

Sorry, Roy old chap, but your accusations are false at best. Try spitting your right-wing BS on some other website, like Fox. Other than that, put your money where your mouth is.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

DEATH TO GOP/TEA PARTY 2012

DEMOCRAT CONGRESS 2012

  • 3 votes
#1.64 - Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:24 PM EDT

Oh and Joe, I believe that the Canadian company that wants to build the Keystone pipeline said that they wanted to exploit the Midwestern oil glut. Not only would the oil NOT go to U.S. consumers, but it would raise prices in the Midwest, contrary to what the GOP candidates say/

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

  • 4 votes
#1.65 - Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:26 PM EDT

Joe from the cape "Roy in your misguided efforts to be loved by the right wing nut jobs on this blog you fail to acknowledge a few facts yourself: 1) Jobs did not "bottom out" before Obama took office you later stated in your own blog that after a few months jobless rate began to decline. It seems your bottoming out happened way after the you said it did . 2) Obama did not say he would keep the unemployment below 7% with his stimulus package"

Nice try, but no cigar.

1) - Job losses (1st time claims for unemployment) peaked the week of December 20th at 589,000, but that had improved by almost 25% to 454,000 claims the week Obama took office. Even now they are still close to 400,000 per week. Hint - there is a difference between actual job losses (first time claims for unemployment) and the unemployment rate.

2) - Obama's spokesmen sold the 'stimulus bill' as 'keeping the Unemployment Rate below 8%' - and that was widely reported in the media. I don't know where you came up with the 7% figure.

  • 1 vote
#1.66 - Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:13 AM EDT
Reply

Jealous, much, Romney? I mean

1. That you didn't think of it first and

2. That you couldn't pull off the honesty and integrity of it all?

Of course, if Romney's team came up with a video, it would be called the MISINFOMERCIAL!

pssst, those 24 million out of work Americans, will probably like President Obama,...under Repubs, they'd have not extended Unemployment Benefits and REALLY be hurting. Not that Romney cares. I mean his wife doesn't think of herself as wealthy,...so I am sure they can 'empathize' - or at least pretend, right?

Out of Touch, The Romney Way!

  • 26 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:22 PM EST

Clara, isn't it great to see the right go 'nuts' over this. They have noting to counter it with. According to Politico, GOP insiders declare, Romney needs a makeover, maybe when he finds some inner strength, they'll find the 'real' Mitt.

Good luck on that, he tries to be a different persona in every state where he stops, my head spins thinking all we've seen so far. The latest down South, he likes cheese biscuits and grits, really Mitt, once again you try too hard, for when they vote they tell you so.

  • 21 votes
#2.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:37 PM EST

I never thought I'd see the day but over on First Thoughts, conservatives were claiming the jobs report numbers were a conspiracy by the media.

  • 27 votes
#2.2 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:47 PM EST

And Romney shamelessly repeats the 8% unemployment LIE and is not called on it.

Of course he didn't comment on today's unemployment numbers---not his area of expertise. He's much better at firing people than hiring them.

And where are the rest of his tax returns?

  • 22 votes
#2.3 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:51 PM EST

Jody -- The ignorance they display! In their world "Fox News" is not biased, the world is flat and anyone educated is dumb.

  • 18 votes
#2.4 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:55 PM EST

Jody, desperation does strange things to the unaccepting. This is just the beginning, at this rate, they'll have no hair to pull come later in the year.

  • 15 votes
#2.5 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:50 PM EST

Gingerbread Mamma

According to Politico, GOP insiders declare, Romney needs a makeover

you mean like a brain transplant?

  • 11 votes
#2.6 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:41 PM EST

The conservative party will try to convince you that pipelines and vaginal probes are more important than a stabling, growing economy is.

To be honest, I have no idea what their plans are to derail the president. I do know that, so far, their attempts have been fruitless.

Maybe if they can convince the health insurance companies to crank up the propaganda machine, they might be successful in flipping the public's opinion again. You remember the polls on healthcare, right? They flipped the polls from 70% for to 70% against. Killing grandma, that was good. Not true but good.

Since they don't have the healthcare mongles rooting for their success, I guess it's up to the RNC. Maybe they can get a strip club to host a banquet for them or something.

  • 3 votes
#2.7 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:43 PM EST

People who resort to name calling and snarky remarks are unsure, uncertain of their positions, just like a bully on the school yard. Clara, you and all the libs responding to your post do not portray yourselves in a good light. You do not persuade anybody who might be Independent, like me. Too bad that the sight of names of certain liberals on here immediately conjures up a vision of hateful, angry, mean people who are so closed-minded and blinded by the Dem propaganda.

    #2.8 - Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:09 PM EDT

    dirt,

    Spare me. You aren't an independent. I am very certain of my position and am very able to point out the hypocrisy in others. Unlike Romeny deliberately MISQUOTING the President to get a Romeny message out-that was later labeled a Pants on Fire ad,...The President has put together a video of accomplishments.

    Me and "...all the libs responding..." conjure up images of "...hateful, angry, mean people..." makes you qualified to judge on the grounds of your previously stated "independence"?

    All righty then, Sparky; but faux poutrage doesn't look good on ya'.

    • 4 votes
    #2.9 - Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:37 PM EDT

    dirt-303814

    As an independent, one would point out that both sides have attacked the other in improper name-calling.

    I noticed how you left out the conservative vitriol. I suppose it could be easily overlooked. Perhaps you should re-read the conservatives posts and you will feel more balanced that way.

    So, are you a registered independent or are you signed up under a party affiliation?

    • 2 votes
    #2.10 - Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:39 AM EDT
    Reply

    Bet this wasn't in the film

    http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/8/govt-sets-record-deficit-february/

    How about all the failures that are somebody else's fault?

    I'm pretty sure that should be the new campaign slogan-" it's Not My Fault!"

    • 6 votes
    #3 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:23 PM EST

    Thanks to the Republican controlled House that passed spending bills last December that called for $1.3 trillion more in spending than the estimated revenues.

    • 18 votes
    #3.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:31 PM EST

    So you're in favor of not raising the debt ceiling next time around?

    Right Dennis?

    • 4 votes
    #3.2 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:36 PM EST

    Rob,

    The debt ceiling is only a political game – it is meaningless.

    Spending thus debt is controlled with the spending bills.

    The debt ceiling increases are only needed to cover what has already been spent.

    • 22 votes
    #3.3 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:43 PM EST

    The debt ceiling increases are only needed to cover what has already been spent.

    Of course if you never cut spending, you'll always have to raise the debt ceiling. And as Sec. of Treasury Tim Geithner says, that path is "unsustainable".

    So blame away Dennis. You do know who pays when this house of cards collapses, don't you?

    • 5 votes
    #3.4 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:49 PM EST

    The lower and middle class will pay as always, just like we are still paying for the failed Bush policies.

    • 15 votes
    #3.5 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:08 PM EST

    Right, Jo, we ALL pay. So let's do what we have to to get people working again and get everybody paying fair taxes. Explain to me why I made what I thought was a stellar year at a bit over $200K last year, I paid 21% in federal taxes, while Mitt paid 13.9%? Corporate taxes start at 15%, go up to 39% from $100K to $150K, then back down to 35% above that? Why do lower high income earners pay more than higher high income earners? Stupid. I think so.

    • 10 votes
    #3.6 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:09 PM EST

    TNSEVOL: The lower and middle class will pay as always, just like we are still paying for the failed Bush policies.

    Exactly. Anyone dependent on the welfare state will be hit very hard.

    Dennis, you also put blame on the GOP House for passing these spending bills. Do you believe a Democratic House would accomplish the task of balancing the budget? Here is a snippet of a speech of then Speaker Nancy Pelosi as she took the Speakers position in 2007:

    "After years of historic deficits, this 110th Congress will commit itself to a higher standard: pay as you go, no new deficit spending. Our new America will provide unlimited opportunity for future generations, not burden them with mountains of debt.

    Source:: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/04/BAG5ANCTQ27.DTL&ao=all

    During the next 4 years Pelosi and the Democrats deficit spent $5 trillion dollars. So if you're looking for the Democrats to do anything about the deficit, you're probably going to be very disappointed.

    • 3 votes
    #3.7 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:17 PM EST

    SBONY: Explain to me why I made what I thought was a stellar year at a bit over $200K last year, I paid 21% in federal taxes, while Mitt paid 13.9%?

    You paid Income taxes. Romney paid Capital Gains taxes. The rates are different.

    Why do lower high income earners pay more than higher high income earners?

    They don't. The tax federal income tax rate tables are shown here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rate_schedule_(federal_income_tax)

    • 4 votes
    #3.8 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:22 PM EST

    JS1,

    And yet John Boehner, thanks to his caucus, turned down a
    4 trillion dollar deficit reduction plan and walked away.

    • 14 votes
    #3.9 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:25 PM EST

    JoAnna-

    So if the lower and middle classes are dependent on the welfare state, why do we pay a higher effective tax rate than Mr. Romney and others? Corporate Welfare is as much a part of the problem as welfare and food stamps.

    • 16 votes
    #3.10 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:25 PM EST

    Dennis: And yet John Boehner, thanks to his caucus, turned down a
    4 trillion dollar deficit reduction plan and walked away.

    Do you have link to that detailed plan? Maybe some legislation?

    • 3 votes
    #3.11 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:30 PM EST

    JoAnnaSmith1

    So blame away Dennis. You do know who pays when this house of cards collapses, don't you?

    Apparently there are two types of presidential bailouts (aka taxpayer bailouts): one that expects changes in return, and one that provides blank checks to be used to pay the bonuses to those execs who actually caused the cards to collapse.

    Which one are you asking about?

    • 7 votes
    #3.12 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:54 PM EST

    JS1

    Here is the link. Looks like Boner screwed up a good opportunity for a clean victory. Finally, the GOP will be shown for what they are; obstructionists and protectors of the 1%.

    OBAMA BIDEN 2012

    DEATH TO THE FASCIST GOP 2012

    • 4 votes
    #3.13 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:17 AM EST

    JoAnnaSmith is right... Romney pays less in taxes because he has enough money to let it sit in the stock market until he needs it... which I assume isn't often since he makes a nice chunk of money from interest and dividends. So... if you want to pay less in taxes all you have to do is become rich first. Step 1... get a raise to start making more money... oops, the interest rates went up or gas prices shot up just as you got that raise... it's almost like they do that to keep the poor people poor.................................. no wait... it's exactly like that.

    • 4 votes
    #3.14 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:14 PM EST

    The deficit can not be solved on cuts alone.

    While the democrats have conceded and conceded on republican demands, the republicans have failed to compromised on any issue, period.

    A serious debate needs to occur. Find out what we can and can not live without. However, we meet with obstruction once again. The all-mighty war machine can not be cut. Subsidies to million and billion dollar corporations can not be cut.

    But... We can take away food stamps, social security, and medicare! Whoot!

    I'll not even mention the Bush tax cuts or raising taxes, those are taboo words.

    • 3 votes
    #3.15 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:57 PM EST

    Here is MY deficit reduction plan. Maybe the Teapublicans will actually take a look at this one instead of dismissing it as a further example of "tax and spend" policies.

    I. Reduce the debt by $8 trillion over 10 years.

    • $750 billion in defense cuts: cut waste in private contracting; reduce investments in new military projects to more sustainable levels; reduce active military personnel by about 8%; demolish 200 bases, mostly overseas, to save over $55 billion a year; prioritize investments for drones, efficient weapon systems, and cyber-defense systems.
    • $1.25 trillion in entitlement savings: Raise payroll cap to 90% of income; reinstate COLA; reinstate estate taxes; raise premiums for beneficiaries who make over $250,000; progressive indexing.
    • Cut $1.5 trillion from discretionary spending except from NASA and Department of Education. Find ways to remove waste, trim costs, etc.
    • Save $2.7 trillion by repealing Bush tax cuts but retaining about $1.1 trillion for the middle class.
    • Institute Buffet Rule and save $500 billion.
    • Reform tax code: decrease about 70% of all tax expenditures unless they are PROVEN to promote a significant amount of growth. Close loopholes, lower corporate tax rate to between 20-25%. Eliminate all corporate welfare. Broaden tax base. Approximate savings=$ 737.1 billion a year.
    • Reduce subsidies to oil companies, farmers, and ethanol producers by $100 billion.
    • Total savings=~$13 trillion plus perhaps trillions more in interest.

    I am not joking. Check (http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=vie… Just removing 90% of our tax code's loopholes and tax expenditures would save $947 billion a year. Maybe we ought to do that and simply reform entitlements and we'd have practically no debt by the mid-to-late 2020s.

    II. Economic Recovery Package

    • Education reform. Increase funding for Department of Education, adopt RAND education policy and further Head Start programs.
    • Create Department of Tourism with $36 billion budget to support 150,000 employees to speed up process for foreign tourists to apply for visas to US and make system more efficient.
    • $90 billion in infrastructure bank to leverage capital for infrastructure repairs to employ millions of Americans.
    • Incorporate policies of Obama's Jobs Bill.
    • Offer incentives for businesses to buy US-made equipment and to employ people in America to the tune of perhaps $2,000-$3,000 per head; includes only people earning the median salary that the companies provides for its workers.
    • Increase duties and tariffs for Chinese goods to 35% until China appreciates its currency and lowers subsidies; place more cases on Chinese fraud and stealing,
    • $60 billion in incentives and federal loans and grants to green technology every year for 4 years.
    • Regulatory overview to decrease unnecessary regulations for economy and add regulations were needed.
    • Reinstate Glass-Steagall.
    • Lift moratorium on offshore oil drilling and open up certain areas for energy exploration WITH safety and environmental precautions and insure safety.
    • Invest $40 billion in new R&D projects every year for 4 years.
    • Offer more scholarships and Pell grants; prioritize scholarships to promote getting degrees in engineering, technology, etc.
    • Negotiate lower tuition deals with private institutions in return for aid and invest more money public higher education. Negotiate with states for a state education surtax to pay for public universities.
    • Help housing market: tighten regulations on housing and financial markets, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; create partnership programs between the government and the private sector to buy houses and rent it out to former owners; persuade banks to write off parts of underwater mortgages; quicken time for foreclosures; demolish old buildings to open up to construction projects.
    • Increase federal gasoline tax to $.225/gallon and use extra revenues to revamp infrastructure.
    • Extend payroll tax cut.
    • Reform Post Office. Eliminate 60,000 payrolls through early retirement, increase stamp costs to $.51, cut administrative salaries and budgets, pay freeze, adopt methods that FedEx and UPS do, transition to an energy-efficient postal fleet and turn postal buildings "green," and find more ways to trim costs.
    • 3 votes
    #3.16 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:22 PM EST

    Freshieee!

    What are you doing? You can't propose that logical plan and expect republicans and conservatives to go for that!

    What are you trying to do??? Make the president look good?

    • 1 vote
    #3.17 - Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

    Defense Spending in $billion

    1997 - 325.20 1998 – 323.28 1999 - 333.45 2000 - 358.92 2001 - 366.53 2002 - 422.06

    2003 - 483.94 2004 - 543.95 2005 - 601.18 2006 - 622.13 2007 - 653.60 2008 - 730.66

    2009 - 794.94 2010 - 847.96 2011- 879.40 2012 - 903.27

    So where are we to cut $750B from the military?

      #3.18 - Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:30 AM EDT

      bayllie,

      that's weird because not one gas station shows anything over $4.43. I think you got taken...or you're inflating the $/gal for gas as propaganda.

      I only wish. Go to californiagasprices.com. If you go there you will see prices over $6.00.

      No propaganda, its reality.

        #3.19 - Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

        Just a Grunt

        To be exact, I was proposing $750 billion in cuts over ten years. Damn, I need to be more specific!!

        • 1 vote
        #3.20 - Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:34 PM EDT

        Bosslimo:

        Correction: I've heard some commendation from SANE conservatives and moderate Republicans. But I do know that it'll get a frown by approximately 85% of the rest of the GOP.

        OBAMA BIDEN 2012

        • 2 votes
        #3.21 - Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:41 PM EDT

        thank you Freshieee, I had to ask because some people I run into, think that it should be that much, this year. I don't think too many will disagree with that number over 10.

          #3.22 - Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:15 AM EDT

          Yes Jo, why do people constant confuse capital gains taxes with income taxes? Granted we have a convoluted tax system, but it is pretty self explanatory. When you make money at your job, you pay your SS and medicare taxes on your gross income, and you pay federal income tax on your earnings after deductions. In the above example where by Mr. Bus Owner he was paying 21% overall federal income taxes! This is because we have a progressive tax system where you pay 15% on the first $18k or so, and then 18% on the next bracket, and then 25%, and on and on and on. Now, if you take that money and put it in a 401k, or stock options, that amount is deducted from your taxable federal income FOR THE TIME BEING. This is to encourage you to save for your retirement or invest back into your company. When you go to sell your stock options, or start withdrawing from your retirement accounts you THEN pay the differed taxes. This allows you to make interest on that additional differed tax amount as long as you hold that investment. SEPERATELY any money that you make on those stock holdings or retirement accounts above and beyond your initial invest amounts are considered capital gains and taxed on a totally seperate system than federal income. Obviously if you use any money in your bank account to buy stocks you have ALREADY PAID federal income taxes on them, thus any increase in those stock values at the time of sale is once again, a Capital Gain. In 2011/2012 the maximum capital gains tax rate was 15%. The US tax system has a multitude of available deductions, apparently Mr. Romney qualified for enough deductions to bring his overall average down to 13.9%.

          It is not a conspiracy, it is not "unfair" he is not "paying less than you" or any such nonsense. The tax system in this country may be complicated, and difficult to even begin to understand, but even the most basic of familiarity with the DIFFERENT TYPES of tax rates make it easy to understand why someone who is making the majority of their income from INVESTMENT appears in the short term to be paying less in capital gains taxes then someone who is WORKING and paying federal income taxes.

            #3.23 - Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:25 AM EDT

            I should have been more specific and didn't catch it until the edit timed out. Long Term Captial Gains Taxes (any investment held longer than 12 months) are 15% maxiumum. Short Term Capital Gains held under 12 months are taxed at the same rate as your Federal Income bracket.

              #3.24 - Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:32 AM EDT
              Reply

              Mittens is so desperate these days, he's making jabs at whatever swings near him. He wishes he had the President's approval ratings right now.

              • 17 votes
              Reply#4 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:24 PM EST

              Is BlueDay right, NoJO? Does Mitt wish HE had Obama's approval ratings right now?

              Do YOU wish YOU did, too, No Jo? Sure you do. And, you can you know. Repeat after me: "I LIKE tall trees". "I LIKE cars". "howdy, y'all- I LIKE grits".

              See- it's easy. You can do it.

              Y' old heiffer.

              • 20 votes
              #4.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:38 PM EST

              Y' old heffer.

              Way to keep it classy DBO.

              • 7 votes
              #4.2 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:45 PM EST

              oh the rating that says only 26% of the people approve of how he's handling the economy (as reported on msn this a.m.) ?? i wouldn't want that rating

                #4.3 - Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:34 PM EDT

                CORRECTION: That is their view on his handling of GAS PRICES. Economy is roughly a 46% pro and 50% con. Speak the truth, dirt, and seek it. For the truth shall set you free.

                OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                • 1 vote
                #4.4 - Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:43 PM EDT
                Reply

                I'd like to see a video with a few thousand people wearing flip-flops running away from Romney and his policies. The back drop, a National Park. Something he'd like to confiscate from the public using government powers.

                • 16 votes
                Reply#5 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:25 PM EST

                And on a par with Romney, I see Joe the plumber is on a roll. He now blames the government as the cause of the GM/Chrysler bankruptcy. He supports the Cain 9-9-9 tax plan. He signed the pledge to become an Oz-Norquist prison bee-atch. Makes one wonder how far into his candidacy before he flip-flops as he realizes all these positions are losers.

                • 16 votes
                #5.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:59 PM EST
                Reply

                I'm waiting for the 17 hour version of "Mitt's Biggest Flip-Flops".

                • 21 votes
                Reply#6 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:26 PM EST

                You get obamas 24/7 right now ...... our radical president

                • 6 votes
                #6.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:32 PM EST

                You get obamas 24/7 right now ...... our radical president

                Pathetic misinformed RWNJ.

                Obama/Biden 2012

                • 17 votes
                #6.2 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:39 PM EST

                I'm waiting for the 17 hour version of "Mitt's Biggest Flip-Flops".

                If all the flip-flops were covered, it would be a month long mini-series.

                • 13 votes
                #6.3 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:19 PM EST
                Reply

                "The former Massachusetts governor ignored reporters’ questions about the report, and did not address it in his remarks, leveling his usual criticisms at the president instead"

                The job number is silencing the naysayers, period. Mitt could have done well by acknowledging it but he chose the highway, blame Obama.

                • 13 votes
                #7 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:30 PM EST

                job numbers ....lol ...not even enough to keep up with the population and after what 5 or 6 trillion spent ...great job ....lol

                • 2 votes
                #7.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:34 PM EST

                For the past 14 months there have been 2.35 million jobs added for a monthly average of 168,000 which is above the number needed to keep up with the population growth.

                • 19 votes
                #7.2 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:38 PM EST

                then why are there millions still out of work they dont even count more ????? and in the past 14 months are you deducting all the ones they lose to .... like all the green people being laid off .....no

                • 1 vote
                #7.3 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:40 PM EST

                Sp PEN, have we fallen that far as a country that we are happy with 8.3% unemployment?

                The fact that First Read thinks Unemployment "holding steady" at 8.3% is an accomplishment should tell you all you need to know about this Presidents record.

                Dennis, you got a source for that bit of info?

                I assume you do, so you tell me if we keep up with popluation, then I guess that's good enough for you? 8.3% is the new normal, eh?

                • 5 votes
                #7.4 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:41 PM EST

                kevin,

                That is a net number and even includes the many Government jobs that were cut.

                WCA here is the link.

                http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth

                • 13 votes
                #7.5 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:48 PM EST

                Dennis, I see a graph, but I don't see anything to back up your analysis.

                Can you help me out with that.

                BTW , you didn't answer my question.

                • 3 votes
                #7.6 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:55 PM EST

                kevin, because we lost jobs starting in Dec 2007--remember, when Bush was President; Bush was bleeding jobs at a rate of 700,000 a month in the last quarter of 2008. BTW, throwing out numbers like 5 or 6 trillion spent--got something to back that or are you just spouting steam to hear the whistle?

                • 14 votes
                #7.7 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:04 PM EST

                Dennis - that link doesn't look like what WCA and Kevin are used to seeing on Faux News or their site.

                8.3 unemployment rate is high but the fact remains we're on the right path and every economic data attest this. There's a buzz in the US economy and it is the right buzz. Good job Mr. President.

                Obama/Biden 2012

                • 15 votes
                #7.8 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:05 PM EST

                WCA,

                Did you look at the table below the graph and add up the numbers from Jan 2011 thru Feb 2012?

                The number to keep up with the population is some place between 125K and 150Kper month. While the last year has been above that it is not good enough to help both people entering the job market and those out of work. It needs to be about 250K to 300 K a month for a couple years to have a real impact on unemployment.

                • 9 votes
                #7.9 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:08 PM EST

                Actually Dennis, for the Unemployment rate to get to 6% it will take over a half a million jobs a month for several years.

                You did what I thought you would do.

                You have accepted this POS economy as a new normal and think that "Just Keeping Up', is good enough.

                • 3 votes
                #7.10 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:18 PM EST

                Never confuse a Republican with the facts..trying to explain anything to them is like teaching fractions to a house cat.

                Comon now Connies, Riddle me this: As I predicted back in November, we've got 5 buck a gallon gas comin, right? What did ya think was going to happen when the Pres started to squeeze the Iranians? Slowly now.....what is the next logical step...Could it be SPECULATORS????? Or maybe it is the delay in the Keystone Pipeline. NOT!!!! Then again we ALL know what SUPER Patriots you are! What a bunch of Marooons! Romney is the perfect candidate for you. A physical, moral and intellectual coward!

                • 13 votes
                #7.11 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:24 PM EST

                WCA,

                Actually if we had a manufacturing base and export business that are 3 times larger like we did 30 years ago we wouldn’t have such a slow recovery.

                If you apply the 125K jobs needed per month to the 8 years under Bush then he should have created 12 million jobs not 3. This would imply that this President started out 9 million jobs in the hole.

                • 12 votes
                #7.12 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:32 PM EST

                WCA - you're not been realistic and that's the biggest problem of the right. 200 thousand plus jobs a month considering the kind of dire situation we found ourselves in is good and by the way, it's no new normal. I bet you, if it's that bad Mitt would have answered the journalists when questioned.

                • 7 votes
                #7.13 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:38 PM EST

                So, WCA, you think that we shouldn't find some positive info learning that the unemployment rate is at 8.3%??? You think that doing so is "beneath us?" What about the damn Great Depression, when unemployment was 25%??? That is one out of every four workers!!! And that was for the Greatest Generation!!!! So apparently we have to be better than them, even though everyone says that they're better than us??? WCA, nobody is applauding the 8.3% unemployment rate. But it is a helluva lot better than our peak at 10%. And you know what would make it lower??? If the president and the Democrats had at least some kind of support across the aisle. Obama has compromised his entire freaking administration. The stimulus; packed with tax cuts. The healthcare reform bill; had no public option. The deficit reduction deal; 75% cuts and only 25% in extra revenues. Contraception deal; religious institutions don't do it directly. Need I say more??? Time after time Obama has reached out across the aisle, trying to win some bipartisan support. And every time the GOP has pulled the rug out from under him. I am THROUGH with this right-wing BS being spurted from these right-wing idiots. Death to the treacherous GOP. Death to the fascist 1% class-warfare instigator that is the right-wing. TO HELL WITH CONSERVATISM!!!!!!!!! Let the revolution against the damn GOP start in November. We the American people shall not rest until these scumbags are OUT of Washington.

                OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                DEMOCRAT CONGRESS 2012

                DEATH TO THE GOP 2012

                • 6 votes
                #7.14 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:36 AM EST

                WCA and the rest of the right wing lunatic fringe find it hard to swallow the fact the economy is measurably improving and the policies of President Obama are responsible for the upward trend. Their blind hatred of the president disqualifies them from making any credible judgment on the topic.

                Haters gonna hate. Too bad they can't think, too.

                • 3 votes
                #7.15 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:56 PM EST
                Reply

                It is ...so whats the question ????

                  Reply#8 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:31 PM EST

                  It ain't an infomercial; it's the damn truth. Unfortunately Romney has nothing to go on now that the recovery is strengthening, so he'd decided to go below the belt. Nice job, Slick Mitt. We'll see how many independents your right-wing meat has gotten you come November.

                  OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                  • 3 votes
                  #8.1 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:19 PM EST
                  Reply

                  Me thinks thou dost protest too much, Mr. Mitt--your eyes are now green, ya'll, a "delicious" shade of green.

                  What's really setting Mitt's hair on fire--Tom Hanks is the narrator of The Road We've Travelled and Davis Guggenheim is an award-winning director. I saw the trailer of the film; it is a reminder for everyone of just how close to a depression we came, how bad the economic crisis really was as well as the wars, etc.

                  • 13 votes
                  Reply#9 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:39 PM EST

                  lol ...and its lib hollywood and always will be ..... so wheres the movie about obamas past and who he admired growing up ????

                  • 5 votes
                  #9.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:45 PM EST

                  Obama's past was made into a fictionalized TV series, did you miss it?

                  Sean Hannity, Fox News, every night in 2008

                  • 9 votes
                  #9.2 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:15 PM EST

                  Good one, TNSEVOL! Kevin missed it just like Breitbart missed PBS's airing of that video of Barack Obama at Harvard.

                  kevin mcneil, it's in his book, it's been discussed, but worse, it's been fabricated over on FOX for people like you--ones with little interest in facts. Have a good day, you're clearly not capable of real discussion. In fact, your comments remind me of someone.

                  P.S. Tom Selleck, Chuck Norris--are those liberal Hollywood, Kevin? There's plenty of conservatives in Hollywood. Selleck says he leans libertarian; I still like him anyway.

                  • 7 votes
                  #9.3 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:26 PM EST

                  The "Hollywood Liberal" myth is just like the "liberal media" myth and the "colleges are liberal" myth.

                  I went to a public college in Ohio and in my four years of undergrad and two years of graduate school I had exactly ONE liberal professor, and that was in Philosophy. ALL my other business school professors were die-hard Conservatives and not afraid to show it.

                  • 8 votes
                  #9.4 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:40 PM EST

                  Breitbart missed PBS's airing of that video of Barack Obama at Harvard.

                  Breitbart hasn't missed anything - what's missing is journalistic integrity in the mainstream media.

                  Obama may have done a nice "race" speech back during his first year. But the words he spoke were more akin with those of Martin Luther King, Jr. Obama is no Martin Luther King, Jr. Obama came from the camp of Rev. Wright, Bill Ayer, Bernardine Dohrn, and Derrick Bell. The critical race theory is Obama's heart and soul.

                  What we truly need is a national debate about critical race theory and how dangerous it's practioners and supporters are the American way of life.

                  I am still confident that voters will see Obama for what he truly is A RADICAL LEFTIST. During his first term he has played it close to the vest but god forbid he is elected to a second term. He will reek so much damage by continuing to tank the economy that our streets will erupt in violence.

                  This is no joke.

                  • 2 votes
                  #9.5 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:00 PM EST

                  what's missing is journalistic integrity in the mainstream media.

                  Glad you agree Rob and no one is more mainstream and with less journalistic integrity than faux.

                  • 7 votes
                  #9.6 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:36 PM EST

                  I'll take my chances. Obama is the ONLY logical person on the spot; he deserved another term, unlike your GOP right-wingers.

                  OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                  • 4 votes
                  #9.7 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:51 AM EST

                  Oh and Rob, you do know that MLK was considered a radical for wanting blacks to not only have equally efficient rights and facilities, but to use the same facilities as whites used. That was probably one of the most radical (in the eyes of conservative segregationists).

                  And Rob, America's history is filled with radicals. The Founding Fathers were radicals because they believed in democratic principles and God-given rights. Abraham Lincoln was radical for believing that America was one nation, not a collection of united states, and that the feds are more powerful than the states. Teddy Roosevelt was radical because he supported worker's rights and fought the powers of Big Business (boy we could use him again). John F. Kennedy was a radical because it was his belief that any American, no matter what they believed in, could become President of the United States. Obama doesn't seem to exhibit any of his radical colleagues' beliefs, and to keep bringing that up is as productive as telling voters that Mitt Romney is a cultist (which he is not).

                  OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                  • 2 votes
                  #9.8 - Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:36 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  Romney really is not to bright, isn't any political ad an infomercial. Hard to believe this guy actually was

                  a successful businessman. I am a pure independent who voted for Obama in 2008 and was leaning against him this year but based on the alternatives I will be first in line to vote for him again in November.

                  • 9 votes
                  Reply#10 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:52 PM EST

                  Another sad day for the Right. Listen to them sputtering, flailing around for something clever to say. They can feel it slipping away, even after it seemed to be in the bag. And all they can do is watch their own canidates treating each other to golden showers of abuse. Priceless!

                  • 11 votes
                  Reply#11 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:02 PM EST

                  Waffle Flip Romney for President.

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#12 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:10 PM EST

                  Mmm... Mmm... Mmm...

                  BARACK!

                  HUSSEIN!

                  OBAMA!

                  Mmm... Mmm... Mmm...

                  Fortunately for America, more and more Americans every day continue to realize just what a colossal failure the entire Obama "experiment" has been. The man who insisted on using his "radical Karl Marx and Saul Alinsky inspired techniques" on what "he thought" were a bunch of "naive Americans" has failed miserably.

                  Had "any of his radical policies" actually helped "even some Americans" perhaps he would be in better standing?

                  But the opposite is true. The inner cities are collapsing before America's eyes, buried under infestations of unemployment, poverty and violent crime, while the rest of America has continued to deteriorate "under HIS watch."

                  Obama's supporters have been "distancing and fleeing from him" since the day he was inaugurated. His "approval rating continues its steady decline from a high of 69% upon inauguration down to the mid 40's today".

                  Even considering the way MSNBC and the media "struggle" to paint Obama in a positive light, harp on the word "recovery " or attempt to suggest that the nation's unemployment is improving due to Obama, in spite of all of that bloated and distorted hype, the "true unemployment aka the U-6" is well beyond FIFTEEN percent, almost double what the media and the WH hope Americans are "dumb or ignorant enough" to believe.

                  When all the hype is done, the reality is that millions of Americans are suffering from a level of unemployment not seen since the Great Depression... cities, counties and entire states are literally bankrupt, with no possible signs of any turn-around anytime before November 2012.

                  An Internationally Famous Black Hollywood icon like Denzel Washington now describes himself as a "Conservative Republican".

                  Snoop Dog openly supports a "Republican named Ron Paul?"

                  Barbra Streisand calls Obama, "A Disaster!"

                  Matt Damon describes Obama as a "Huge Disappointment".

                  Even according to Gallup, more than 50% of Americans specifically consider Obama's presidency a FAILURE.

                  People can delude themselves as much as they want, a little reading about the history of presidential elections demonstrates one undeniable fact, NO president with Obama's numbers can win.

                  For example: These "morons in the media" said that "Jimmy Carter would crush Reagan with 54% of the popular vote" in 1980? These same media idiots actually expect Americans to believe Obama actually has "a chance?"

                  They will try every trick in their book; they'll jump up and down and do all kinds of dog and pony shows; they bring in all their Hollywood friends too, but here's the thing.

                  Humpty Obama sat on a wall and had a great fall !

                  All of Obama's horses and all of his men will never put him together again.

                  Mmm... Mmm... Mmm...

                  BARACK!

                  HUSSEIN!

                  OBAMA!

                  Mmm... Mmm... Mmm...

                  Obama will forever be remembered as a destructive, ineffective and colossal failure.

                  You can put a fork in him... because he is already "well done!"

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#13 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:14 PM EST

                  Mmm... Mmm... Mmm...

                  Don't look now folks, but we have a genuine DITTO HEAD amongst us! lol

                  Limpballs, is that you?

                  • 15 votes
                  #13.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:42 PM EST

                  Danzel Washington has always been a republican - he just happened to vote for Obama in 2008.

                  Barbra Streisand and Matt Damon think Obama didn't stand up to republicans and should have gone farther in the healthcare debate. We should have the single payer system in place, or at least ready to go.

                  You just go ahead and mis-quote or flat out lie about Obama's presidency and what some people say about it. There's a special place in he l l for people like you - they are all wearing dunce hats.

                  • 7 votes
                  #13.2 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:52 PM EST

                  So who cares what celebrities think? Your vote is too important to waste on trivialities.

                  • 2 votes
                  #13.3 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:56 PM EST

                  Ghandi must have had a vision about the Republican Party when he came up with the seven sins.

                  "Wealth without work

                  Pleasure without conscience

                  Knowledge without character

                  Commerce without morality

                  Science without humility

                  Worship without sacrifice

                  Politics without principal"

                  Describes them perfectly. Like a puzzle,the pieces fit.

                  • 4 votes
                  #13.4 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 7:07 PM EST

                  how can you look at pols, approval numbers, vci, and the sad sad fate of the republicon party and believe what you write. What alternate universe do you live in?

                  • 2 votes
                  #13.5 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 8:04 PM EST

                  Actually, Rich, I think this list is a better fit for the Dems.

                  Wealth without work--Entitlement Programs

                  Pleasure without conscience--Moral Relativity; See Entertainment Industry

                  Knowledge without character--Obama

                  Commerce without morality--Unions are the biggest special interest groups around

                  Science without humility--Anti-Theist bias

                  Worship without sacrifice--ditto

                  • 2 votes
                  #13.6 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:03 PM EST

                  No, dudeips, this list is a MUCH better fit for the Right:

                  Wealth without work-Bush tax cuts.

                  Pleasure without conscience-Iraq and Afghanistan War

                  Knowledge without character-Bush and the entire GOP leadership and candidates.

                  Commerce without morality-Wall St before the recession.

                  Science without humility-Supply side economics and anti-science.

                  Worship without sacrifice-Extreme Christian Right.

                  Politics without principle-Mitt Romney.

                  OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                  • 3 votes
                  #13.7 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:23 PM EST

                  Feisty,

                  I stopped reading once I saw Speedy Palm,...lol

                  • 4 votes
                  #13.8 - Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:19 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  Actually Obama's approval rating is at almost 50%, and he is beating Romney by anywhere from 5 to 10 points.

                  • 13 votes
                  Reply#14 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:21 PM EST

                  Ron in ma - Please congratulate the following US Democratic Senators that voted yesterday in favor of the Keystone Pipeline

                  Max Baucus and Jon Tester of Montana, Kent Conrad of North Dakota, Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, Claire McCaskill of Missouri and Jim Webb of Virginia

                  Claire McCaskill is up for re-election and would never have voted Yea if she were not guaranteed the amendment would not have received 60 yesterday. The voters in Missouri will hopefully be serving her walking papers this November. Her vote was pure bull in this voters eyes.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#15 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:29 PM EST

                  Do you want to crap on the other 10 Democrats that actually support what 66% of the country want?

                  • 1 vote
                  #15.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:34 PM EST

                  Nope just Claire she is the only one I will not be voting for.

                    #15.2 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:41 PM EST

                    Slightly off topic but I heard yesterday that 35% of people suport the Affordable Healthcare Act and 47% are against it.

                    The sad thing was that only 30% of people surveyed really knew that much about it, and I'm betting they are part of the 35%........

                    • 8 votes
                    #15.3 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:46 PM EST

                    And if you ask them specifics about the plan....the number supporting goes way, way up.

                    • 7 votes
                    #15.4 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:53 PM EST
                    Reply

                    Better an infomercial than a Mitt Romney alternate history ad.

                    • 6 votes
                    Reply#16 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:52 PM EST

                    I'm from the South (Birmingham, AL) and Mitt you do not fit in. I hope he's not mocking our accent (Yall) Don't try and fit in Mitt, it will not help you! OBAMA 2012

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#17 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:34 PM EST

                    I am sure Romney is right in his assessment of the infomercial...but what kind of infomercial would you expect from "The A s s y r i a n....L iar"........Women seem to be getting dumber....they will vote for him (The O n e) in Nov.

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#18 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:41 PM EST

                    What are you talking about,"Assyrian"....just amazing the stupidity out there...not really just listen to the Ditto Heads that call in to right wing nuts.....

                    • 2 votes
                    #18.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 7:04 PM EST

                    Hey JustMee; save the racist crap. No, I'm not saying that you're being racist to Obama or blacks; but to Arab Americans. I happen to be one of them, and I find your statement offensive and derisive. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and shut up, will ya??? Our country is messed up enough thanks to right-wing idiots like Slick Mitt; we don't need more bigoted crap.

                    OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                    • 1 vote
                    #18.2 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:59 AM EST
                    Reply

                    All of "Romulian Romney's" commericals of himself prove that he is a very "Cowardly Clown." The "Romulians" commericals prove that he is a poltical "Flip-Flopper." Since all the "Romulian's Commericials" are produced on his home planet of Romulus, and that is why they are so "Alien" to 99% of Americans.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#19 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 5:35 PM EST

                    Just listening and watching Flipper Mitt is like watching a Saturday morning cartoon..I'll give him credit,he did sing the song from Davy Crockett TV show quite well.

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#20 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 6:09 PM EST

                    I wonder if mittens will take Sarah from Alaska and Joe the non Plumber on the campaign trail? No, even he's not that crazy. I would love to see him do it though.

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#21 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 7:14 PM EST

                    That would be great comedy...

                    • 4 votes
                    #21.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 7:17 PM EST
                    Reply

                    LOL Bill I know.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#22 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 7:18 PM EST

                    comrade obama's propaganda machine in over drive!!!

                    Watch it Mitt they kids are a little touchy!!!

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#23 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 7:39 PM EST

                    Where do you get this comrade Obama propaganda machine? Obviously you don't pay attention to our President but instead you pay attention to someone who lies, cause problems and makes us things constantly. Read Romans 13 if you have a Bible. I sure wish Sean Hannity and Sarah Palin would read it and the rest of the Bible too. I am praying for republicans to start telling the truth and republicans who watch the sideshows start demanding the truth. They have to see what they are making up. Where do you think comrade comes from? We have a great president, who acts like a Christian should and can actually state what it says in the Bible. Obviously some on the other side have neglected to do something like reading the Bible along with the Constitution as a matter of fact. They sure don't try to uphold it either.

                    • 1 vote
                    #23.1 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:49 PM EST
                    Reply

                    ObamaCare depending on the source states that it will cost between $400 billion and $1.2 trillion. The Congressional Budget Office states that the cost will be $829 billion with job losses totaling around 1.6 million.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#24 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 9:00 PM EST

                    Show the link. Obamacare will actually SAVE billions over the next decade. Here is my site:

                    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/obamacare-and-the-myth-of-rising-cost-estimates/2011/03/24/ABn6JmRB_blog.html

                    Where's yours, USHonor???

                    OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                    • 3 votes
                    #24.1 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:55 PM EST

                    Touche, dirt.

                    Unfortunately, the weekly standard is widely known to be supported by conservative groups. Not necessarily a credible site.

                    • 2 votes
                    #24.3 - Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:02 PM EDT

                    That may be so, but the Washington post is known as a left leaning newspaper.

                      #24.4 - Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:17 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      Obamacare hurts entry level workers who need jobs so they can get the skills to enter the workforce. Is it any surprise that teen unemployment has now hit 25 percent? The jobs they need are evaporating because of ObamaCare.The evidence now is clear that ObamaCare is discouraging employers from hiring. The question is how long the president will continue to sacrifice the economy for the sake of his signature legislation. Did I forget to mention that this passed because of Santorum's support for Arlen Specter as in the Santorum the Enemy Within.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#25 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 9:01 PM EST

                      USH,

                      [Obamacare hurts entry level workers who need jobs so they can get the skills to enter the workforce. Is it any surprise that teen unemployment has now hit 25 percent?]

                      Obamacare doesn’t even go into effect for 2 more years.

                      Nice try !!

                      • 7 votes
                      #25.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 9:11 PM EST

                      Wow, Teen unemployment is 25%??? What the heck are all of those 13-14 year old kids doing with their free time? Probably a bunch of Liberal scum studying or doing chores, Maybe even (God Forbid) Playing baseball or basketball on a school team (Damn Socialist!!) Hahahaha

                      Wake up Dude, 25% teen unemployment? Really? Has it ever been lower than that?

                      • 5 votes
                      #25.2 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:37 PM EST

                      USH, you really think that employment is going down and want the "Obamacare" bill repealed so the Insurance Company won't have to pay out 85% of their premiums in coverage? When the legislation kicks in the double digit rate increases will have to be justified on a basis of providing services instead of inflated bonuses.

                      • 2 votes
                      #25.3 - Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:36 PM EDT
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