
Jessica Rinaldi / Reuters
Republican presidential candidate and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney pauses while speaking to supporters at his "Super Tuesday" primary election night rally in Boston, Massachusetts, March 6, 2012.
Why isn’t this GOP race over?... Three answers: 1) Romney’s getting penalized for the competition he’s facing… 2) He’s struggling in the South, which just happens to be the battleground for next week… 3) He hasn’t fixed his message problem (and a message about math and inevitability probably isn’t going to do the trick)… Obama: The Documentary… And another leadership challenge for Boehner.
*** Why isn’t this GOP race over? If you’re Mitt Romney, you have to feel pretty frustrated. Political observers (including your authors here) told him he had to win his native state of Michigan, and he won Michigan. They told him he had to win Ohio, and he won there, too. And they set the bar at him obtaining a majority or a near-majority of delegates on Super Tuesday, and he achieved that as well. So why isn’t this race over? One possible answer: He’s getting penalized in the media and among Republicans for the competition he’s facing. It would be one thing if Romney were eking out narrow victories against Rick Perry or Tim Pawlenty, candidates with (at the time they were running) a serious campaign infrastructure and money or the potential for it. But it’s another thing to narrowly win against candidates who don’t have a true organization, who aren’t well funded, and who don’t have a bustling campaign headquarters. Romney, of course, doesn’t get to pick his opposition, and all he can do is continue to win. But he is certainly losing style points by barely beating Santorum in states like Michigan and Ohio -- akin, as we’ve said before, to a top-ranked college football team winning a squeaker against an unranked opponent.
Top Talkers: Mitt Romney's campaign is urging his GOP presidential competitors to drop out of the race. The Morning Joe panel – including Random House's Jon Meacham and Donny Deutsch – discusses why that strategy may not be the best idea for Romney.
*** Goin’ South: Here’s another reason why the race isn’t over: the South. There is no other region in the country that better represents today’s Republican Party than the South, with its deep conservatism, its ardent belief in states’ rights, and all of its evangelical voters. And there’s no other region in the country where Mitt Romney has struggled more -- in 2012 and also in 2008 -- than there. He has failed to win over his party’s nerve center and frankly, it’s logical that Republican pooh-bahs are sitting on the sidelines until Romney proves he can win over some of these folks. That said, this deep-red region won’t be a problem for him in a general election (with the exception of New South states like North Carolina and Virginia). And after next week’s primaries in Alabama and Mississippi -- where all the candidates, including Romney, are campaigning today -- the GOP contest moves elsewhere. But there are still plenty of southern primaries after March 13, where Santorum (or Gingrich) might be favored: Louisiana (March 24), North Carolina (May 8), West Virginia (May 8), Arkansas (May 22), Kentucky (May 22), and Texas (May 29).
*** A message of math and inevitability isn’t going to convince conservatives: There is a final reason why this GOP race isn’t over yet: Romney still hasn’t fixed his message problem. He hasn’t explained why (outside of his business experience) he’s the person who should carry the conservative flag in November’s general election. And this campaign’s latest message -- inevitability and math -- isn’t going to do the trick. Romney has to give conservatives something to rally around other than delegate counts. And the campaign has to walk this line VERY carefully. The last time the words “Romney” and “inevitable nominee” were used together consistently, candidacies like Cain, Santorum and Gingrich rose from the ashes. The campaign ought to let others make the math argument (it might come across as more credible) and instead fix their message problem.
The Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd explains why the Romney campaign has been trying to convince supporters that neither Rick Santorum or Newt Gingrich have a realistic shot at the nomination. Todd also takes a look at the number of delegtes at stake in the next primary.
*** On the trail, per NBC’s Adam Perez: Romney stumps in Mississippi, holding an event in Pascagoula (Trent Lott’s hometown)… Gingrich is also in the state, attending rallies in Jackson, Tupelo, and Southaven… And Santorum hits Alabama, visiting Huntsville, Pelham, and Mobile.
*** Obama: The Documentary: In other news today, the Obama campaign has released a trailer of a new documentary -- by award-winning director Davis Guggenheim and narrated by Tom Hanks -- about Obama’s first three years in office. Meanwhile, the RNC is out with a document hit on David Axelrod’s criticism of Mitt Romney that he didn’t stand up to Rush Limbaugh’s attack on that female Georgetown Law student. (“If you can’t stand up to the most strident voices in your party, how are you going to stand up to Ahmadinejad?“ Axelrod asked.) Well, the RNC’s research document asks: “If you can’t stand up to the environmentalists in your party” – on the Keystone pipeline – “how are you going to stand up to Ahmadinejad.” Also: “If you can’t stand up to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid” – on the stimulus – “how are you going to stand up to Ahmadinejad?”
*** Another leadership challenge for Boehner: The Hill reports on House Speaker John Boehner trying to get his GOP caucus to support a House transportation bill. “During a closed-door conference meeting Wednesday he implored conservatives to support five-year, $260 billion transportation legislation that has been stalled for weeks, warning them that if they failed to do so, they have to swallow the $109 billion Senate bill or ‘something that looks just like it.’ According to a source in the room, Boehner said, ‘You don’t like that? I don’t like it either. Why would any of us like it?’” The stakes aren’t as big as last summer’s debt-ceiling showdown, but this transportation is another opportunity to show 1) that he can lead his caucus, and 2) that the GOP can govern.
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The Republican presidential primary appears to be all wrapped up. Romney's won two big states in a row and Santorum, his only real competition, is simply too far behind. But now GOP voters are going to realize that Mitt is their guy, for better or worse, and that their previously considerable chances of beating Obama in November are dwindling away faster than you can say 'Swiss bank account.' Romney as nominee is a product of a weak and disorganized field, the first real Tea Party primary. what a mess!
Announcing: The brand new 2012 Barrymobile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s a “green” car/pickup/SUV that runs on lefty liberal fairy tale dust and, when it runs out of that fuel, it is towed along by lefty liberal flying unicorns in harness. As I posted the other day, Government Motors is shutting down its Chevy Volt plant for five weeks in March and April because no one wants to buy their POS at a $41,000 list price, even with a federal govt. bribe of a $7,500 rebate.
Barry preaching “green” lefty liberal fairy tale dust and flying unicorns is not going to help any of the poor and middle class American’s that are putting their Social Security 2% vote-for-Barry-bribe directly into their gas tanks. I do have to admit that higher gas prices are putting money in my pocket because of the increases in my Vanguard Energy fund holdings. In order to do my patriotic duty and stimulate the economy, I will spend some of those increases today on some filet, AK sockeye salmon for the grill, and some ice cold Sam’s for lunch. It’s forecast to be in the 60’s today!!!! (Why does Al Bore not like global warming??)
Obama hits the road for green cars
By: Jennifer Epstein and Kathryn A. Wolfe
March 7, 2012 02:38 PM EST
MT. HOLLY, N.C. — President Barack Obama visited a North Carolina truck plant Wednesday to call for new incentives for Americans to build and buy alternative fuel vehicles.
“We’re going to give you an incentive to do things in a different way,” Obama said at the Daimler Trucks North America manufacturing plant here after touring an assembly line where truck chassis are built and installed.
Two of Obama’s new programs are contests intended to help accelerate deployment and adoption of advanced vehicles; the other is a package of tax incentives for alt-fueled vehicles.
Obama also used his speech to try to deflate campaign rhetoric around rising gas prices, telling listeners to remember that gas price spikes are cyclical, and “you and I both know there are no quick fixes to this problem.”
The president's post-Super Tuesday visit to this town just outside Charlotte is his fourth in the last six months to this battleground state and comes as gas prices continue to rise.
And the Beat Goes On:
The SuperTuesday primaries are over and the results are in. The bottom line is that Romney created little separation between himself and Santorum. Winning by only 12,000 votes in Ohio is a win, but not a convincing win. Romney earned 38% of the vote to Santorum's 37%.
Romney has not come close to winning in the South as he has lost in South Carolina, Georgia and Tennessee. I imagine he's OK with that, hoping that those southern states will still go republican in November. But Romney isn't doing well in the Midwest either with loses in Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, and North Dakota.
Another bottom line is that Republicans are simply not excited about Romney. He's too plastic, wooden, and robotic; the inside of that $2,000 suit is empty. It is clear by now that he has nothing in common with the middle-class American and this can clearly be seen in the primary results. In short, he a flawed candidate and no wonder President Obama wished him well at a press conference on Super Tuesday.
Republican insiders really want this primary season to end but both Gingrich and Santorum have earned the right to go on. So the beat will go on with candidates presenting no new ideas and doing what they do best: personally ripping and tearing down their opponents. The way things are going for the Republicans, President Obama can sit back and watch. The Republicans are destroying themselves.
Interesting timing with the story on the msnbc homepage about white supremacy groups about to rise up because of Obama’s impending reelection. The story comes the day after Obama is shown hugging his renowned race agitator Professor Raymond Bell. You really think its just coincidence.
And to my leftie friends try not to just blame it all on Fox and Brietbart. CNN has already done two different pieces on the story in an effort to tamp it down. Soledad O’Brien was made a complete fool of this morning by Joel Pollak.
Boy o boy, this campaign is going to be a lot different than the media coronation of 2008!
Get ready folks the real truth squad is working away. Obama is going to get vetted the way he should be! Go ahead moonbats yell RACIST all you want.
USA, USA, USA, USA!
Yesterday Kirk wrote:
You know what the really scary thing about this is, folks? Kirk votes.
And the Beat Goes On:
The Super-Tuesday primaries are over and the results are in. The bottom line is that Romney created little separation between himself and Santorum. Winning by only 12,000 votes in Ohio is a win, but not a convincing win. Romney earned 38% of the vote to Santorum's 37%.
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So, Dr. Ron, if Barry wins the 2012 election with 271 electoral votes, one above the 270 minimum, YOU will be here on FR posting on 11/07/12 that Barry is a "loser"??
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's early yet the,
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from the right wingers are already swarming all over the place...
They must have a burr in their saddle from the Briebart nontroversy!
FR had an article on Obama chiding and mocking the repubs over energy last night … Betty Red posted …
Pretty funny if you either have a functioning brain stem or heard this coming from Obama recently ….
So BR, Obama is going to grow oil from algae and ……….. the repubs are the “con artists?”
Anyway, first thought about Obama’s comments …. We’re broke, we go in the hole another 4 fubillion dollars everyday ….. and Obama is investing our money / our kid’s futures …. in green pond scum?
Secondly …. Believe it or not Barry, we could replace 100% of the oil we import if you would simply pull your head out of your moss and let us tap into our 1.4 trillion barrels of reserves – reserves enough to fuel our needs for 2 ½ centuries
Third …. Sheez … no wonder the prices are skyrocketing. We have an idiot for president who is trying to grow oil from seaweed while killing the oil industry - setting energy policy.
What the heck do you think speculators are going to do? There is no speculating to what the price of energy is going to do with this agenda other than “how high” “how soon.”
What is funny, you still see some trying to defend Obama …. “Demand is down while supply and production are very high.”
They don’t get it. Speculators don’t speculate on supply and demand today …. They speculate on the future - which Obama is in his third year of doing everything he can to crush supply.
Obama’s Secretary of Energy said over 3 years ago …..
And how do you think environmental wackos like Chuy and Obama are going to do that? Increasing demand …. lol … or crushing supply?
Chu has also said the administration policies ….
What did Obama say about gas prices doubling last year ….
And in other words, neither the President or Secretary of Energy mind the price of gasoline going up – crushing the poor and middle class in the worst economy since the Great Depression – they just wish it happened slower (like after the election).
When asked at a hearing this week, if the goal of the administration is to get the price down … Chu’s answer was no.
Sorry libs, your own boys testify they are doing nothing to keep prices down – No Excuses.
And once more for the record …. The price of gas peaked at $4.12 in July 2008 – Bush went before Congress and opened up drilling – the price dropped to a $1.61 by November 2008. Historical Fact.
Meanwhile back on the re-election trail, Obama said about the green pond scum scam ….
“If we can figure how to make energy out of that we’ll be doing all right.”
Which pretty much translates to … ‘If we can figure how to make up some dumbass deflection – come up with some more hope and change crap that people will swallow, we’ll be doing all right for my re-election’?
The narcissist in chief thinks he can sell this … bs his way to another election?
Are 51% of Americans really that stupid to fall for this guy’s bs twice ?
We’ll find out in November.
I saw the video of the President when he was at the protect. It's Great. So Fox noise thinks they have something that will hurt the President? No way, smart people love it. Dumb people, well.
Hey Feisty, speaking of ridiculous comments, tell us another hilarious one like "Sandra Fluke = Rosa Parks". That was great. My sides are still hurting!!! LOL
By the way, isn't it funny how, when some of the more level-headed lefties here came out and condemned lefties calling right-wing women "c*nts" and twats, Feisty was nowhere to be found?
Thanks, bob. The funny thing is, the media is so besotted by Obama, they will keep this front and.center- with no realization that people are not going to fall for the snake oil again.
By the way- more proof that liberals have no concept of irony.
After lambasting Linbaugh for his unacceptable remarks, Axelrod is going to appear on the Bill Maher show.
You cannot make this stuff up.
Racism by the Right is nothing new with a federal judge disrespecting the President and black people disgracing the Hall of Justice. The world sees how racist Right Wing America really is by allowing people like him to remain on the bench.
Militias are arming themselves threatening the principles on which this nation was formed. The mere fact they formed out of cultural ignorance and hatred should be met with terroristic reprisals if they become too unstable. I'm sure there are small towns that have HATE Groups with KKK Banners that have the whole town held captive.
This is 2012, put the hate away. Those that sit on this blog and support these people are no different and deserve any criticism leveled at them.
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
Yes Louis, they prove it every day.
There's an awful lot of flailing of arms and even feet this morning from the right, as they try to make something out of nothing. Come on guys, give us something with teeth to argue over.
Your old talking points are old, and this 'new' nonsense over an old video, that many of us have seen several times over the years is another act of desparation....see what you guys miss when you don't watch PBS. I know its tough for you, but a lot of us have moved on, better days are coming, there is an air of optimism in the air, except of course on the right side, so you try to create a controversy. Really there is no there, there.
Republicans won't believe in climate change science until their houses are flattened by ever more powerful tornadoes...oh wait, that is happening now. Gee, maybe we should find alternatives to burning oil. You think?
I think Newt & Santorum should keep plugging away. They show the world how obnoxious the Teapublican party can be. After all, they love Limbauugh, the hypocritical, woman bashing, drug addict and all the othe talking heads at Fox.
The Three Stooges ( Romney, Santorum and Gingrich ) just can't seem to sell themselves to their own Party. With rare exception do more than 30% of their Party at any given time like any of them. What a sad slate of clowns to put up against our President. Here it is March and their still talking about another Candidate. Guess what? You don't have anyone stupid enough to jump into this mud pit. Those of them who could "perhaps" challenge President Obama are to smart to run against a strong incumbent. They'll wait till 2016. Those are the smart ones in your Party. I love it.
Obama in 2012.
I think what Rush said was unacceptable, plain and simple.
Looking at it further, it is obvious Rush made another error by not sending money to Obama’s campaign. He failed to realize the left’s principles and integrity are for sale.
Obama sold out his principles and gave the right to call women and others all sorts of vile names to Bill Mahr….for a cooool million.
The many pundits and owners of the left media donate to Obama and bought themselves the unfettered right to investigate and excoriate countless women and any citizen on Obama’s behalf: Carrie Prejean, Joe the Plumber et al.. Heck Joe wasn’t even an activist before congress. Just an American playing ball with his kid in his own yard when candidate Obama trespassed on Joe’s property, looking for a question from a regular guy and showing off for the cameras. He didn’t like the question.
The regular Dems here have donated to Obama’s campaign and mindlessly excoriate whoever MSNBC tells them to without question, without thought, without decency. There is no doubt the regulars here wouldn’t and couldn’t be even half as civil as Joe was or maintain a shred of human decency if confronted in their yard by Romney, Newt et al.
Having seen the pattern, I’ve decided to buy me a piece of liberal hypocrisy by sending money to Obama equal to the value of Obama’s principles, the amount of unbiased reporting from MSNBC and the value of the overhyped, manufactured outrage over Rush’s comment. I have taped 1 very bright, copper penny inside an envelope and am sending it in today. Based on liberal law, I just bought me a lifetime free pass to say and do anything I please.
Yeah Amy. There were NEVER any tornadoes until we evil Americans started driving SUVs, right? The worst tornado ever was the Tri-State Tornado in the 1920s. What's you're excuse for that? And why do you "Climate Change" people (can't call it Global Warming anymore) always seem to have a distinct anti-American bent to your hysteria?
Feisty wrote:
'Tain't no burr girl. That's their backsides actin' up - if ya know what I mean. They been ridin' hard. This ain't no time fer restin' girl. The Vagina Vigilantes is out puttin' them womenfolk in their places. What with them havin' sex and all, somebody's got to keep watch. They shore seem to like to watch.
And don't think they ain't gittin' no help. The Pope hisself has sent a special envoy, a direct descendant of Peeping Thomas of Santorum. I ain't one to criticize, but when he anointed ol' Rick there, he shoulda used oil, not water. Water warps wood, doncha know.
That don't even include Rush Limbaugh's gentle approach to this serious problem. I hear over there at the EIB network they're workin' on a new slogan: "Truth may be stranger than fiction, but here at EIB, truth is just a stranger."
And don't fergit Hannity, and O'Reilly, and Malkin, and the rest of them fair and balanced types. I know yer askin' why ya shouldn't fergit 'em. Seriously Feisty, I been ponderin' on that, and I don't rightly know.
Is that why Nebraska this year reported its first ever tornado in February?
After 60,000,000 victims dead, when will the left STOP it's WAR ON BABIES?
Fetuses aren't babies. Please try again.
David Walker,
If you aren't a professional writer, you SHOULD be! Love it!
BrainDamaged doesn't seem as concerned about the thousands of actual babies killed by errant US bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan
Bob numbers:
I'm puzzled as to why Republicans and their robot followers think this is an effective line of attack. First, one of the big oil companies has been running ads on TV about how bio-fuels like algae are among alternative energy sources they're researching. If it's so ridiculous, why would an oil company waste advertising dollars hyping it?
Second, for the first time since 1949, the US is a net EXPORTER of petroleum products, as reported here:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-29/u-s-was-net-oil-product-exporter-in-2011.html
If Republicans need to resort to such bogus attacks, it's only more proof of how formidable a candidate and accomplished chief executive they're up against,
Why isn't this over? Because republicans aren't happy with their choices. They aren't just anti-Obama, they're anti-Mitt. Trouble is after they rally around the next one, they discover a whole lot of stuff they don't like but there's only Newt and Rick left.
Santorum wants Gingrich to drop out of the race so that he can beat Romney or so he thinks. The problem with that thinking is the inability to recognize the flaws in himself. If Santorum was such a great candidate, why can't he defeat Romney on his own? Maybe those Gingrich voters are not fond of the Grand Faith Party that Rick pushes; it's quite possible the Newt voters will choose Mitt over Rick because a theology doesn't appeal to them.
Romney wants the others to drop out so that he can "wrap this up". What does it say about Mitt if he cannot convince republicans he's their nominee?
Seriously, these candidates need to take a look in the mirror and ask why they aren't "locking up" the nomination instead of blaming the other candidates for syphoning off votes. Never occurs to these particular candidates that possibly it's their message and probably it's that voters aren't crazy about them personally.
To all the people (including Bob in 1.7) who are so mad about the increasing cost of gasoline, please explain the following...
U.S. exported more gasoline than imported last year
from... http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/02/us-exported-more-gasoline-than-imported-last-year
Why is the Republican race still going????
That one's easy. Super Pacs. Duh.
The issue with gas is price fixing. Big oil lobbies get together with the politicians they buy, and figure out ways to keep the price of gas way LOWER than it actually should be. If we had to pay for what gas REALLY costs, we'd have demanded alternative sources long ago. Now big oil doesn't want that to happen and neither do the politicians, seeing as they're all making bank off of it.
Crude oil is sold on a global market. Even US produced oil is sold at that global price, and the amount we'd ever be able to produce would never be able to reduce prices significantly.
The problem with the oil market is speculation. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to do some research.
Rick, the Iraqi and Afghan babies killed were by accident, like you said; "errant" bombs. The babies killed BY Iraqis and Afghans in Islamofacist terror attacks are killed INTENTIONALLY, as are the babies killed by your beloved abortion.
And Ruken. I can safely say that if next year, Nebraska has a record LOW number of tornadoes, you will claim it's a result of, you guessed it, Climate Change. Gotta hand it to you people. Once you changed the name from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change", you're able to cover ALL your bases, no matter what the weather, and blame ANY and ALL events on Climate Change. 100 degrees in July!! OMG! Climate Change! Blizzard in JAnuary! Climate Change! Cooler than usual in August! Climate Change! And on and on...
The GOP
They have no message. How will they govern? How do they see the country in 4 years.
OBAMA 2012
Was there a rebuttal argument in that mess? Because I didn't see one.
Maybe Romney should hire a fat lady to sing at the other candidates events.
Rob in MA, if you're going to slander a highly respected Harvard Law professor, at least get the name correct. You are really naive to think if there was some "there, there" the Clinton campaign and the McCain campaign would have been all over the video like a fly on honey. Perhaps you would care to explain what is so "radical" about protesting for more diversity in the Harvard faculty, as Bell did.
P.S. PBS has had the video since 1991; they ran it during the 2008 campaign when they aired documentaries on both Obama, Clinton and later added McCain. It has been on You-Tube since 2008, contrary to the claim that this video was never seen before--it just hadn't been seen for awhile.
Jack, did you read David's cite that he posted? Not only do I vote but I was right. Read what David posted, 30% of vasectomies are not covered by employers by design or choice because its considered elective. What is wrong with you guys? Nice deflection Jack but David's cite supports my argument. Contraception coverage by employers should be treated no different than vasectomies, by choice not a mandate. Sometimes the reading comprehension skills by the progressives is very limited.
California Tom I think you have it exactly right. Despite the right's talking points an the circumstances, Obama did a fair job in his 4 years (not perfect by any means). Those smart Republican candidates, which do exist, that actually would have a chance decided to sit this one out. It's simply not worth it to run against such a strong incumbent when things would be much easier in 2016 and also who wants to inherit this great mess the country is in?
And then there is Romney, the inevitable nominee. He has no idea how to compete with his current opponents. He is unable to understand why it is still a competition or why he cannot connect with the heart of the conservative party.
Romney is the guy in a tux at Chuck & Cheese looking for the silverware. I think someone should inform him he will not be having steak.
My best advice to Romney would be to simply embrace his inner "Stick in the Muddy-ness". No one's ever going to buy that he's cool, relatable or even likable. He's never going to be able to get on stage and sing the blues or give a firey speech. The only chance he has to get people to really back him, is if he plays up his complete lack of relatability and makes a joke of it. Reach out and give that elephant on the table a hug, Mitt.
Otherwise, he looks like that teacher we all had in highschool that wanted so bad to be cool and communicative with the kids, but just couldn't pull it off.
It has been on You-Tube since 2008, contrary to the claim that this video was never seen before--it just hadn't been seen for awhile.
Firstly, I purposely wrote Raymond instead of Derrick to get someone on the left to join the conversation. And Spade Traders not so highly respected of a read.
Secondly, if the video (the non-redacted and highly edited) was shown back in 2008, why is Ogletree out there saying that they HID the video during the campaign?
Sorry, Jody. This time around NO coronation. The vetting will continue. Mainstream media owes the entire country an apology for putting a radical leftist in the White House unbeknowst to the majority of Americans.
Houston (and qud),
As your own article stated, the reason for net exports is the demand is down.
Do you think this has to do with all those swell Solyndra solar panels everyone has on their house, everyone on the road driving a Volt or Tesla or Fiskar, giant windmills on every Burger King .... or is it maybe the fact that have THE WORST ECONOMY SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION?
The previous price spike last year under Obama was due to QE1 and QE2 - the trillions flooding the world and the devaluation of the dollar.
This rise is based on futures.
Getting to the point of production is a 4-7 year process.
Everything being produced is the result of Bush's actions combined with a big growth of production on private lands.
None of it is the result of Obama. Obama is in fact emptying the pipeline and the world knows it even if you don't.
Demand will return - big time and real fast if Obama gets booted in November.
Those two factors play a large part of the price rise.
Sorry this is all too complicated for you libs.
I'm going to be as gentle about this as I can, Kirk. And then, as David said to you yesterday, it's "Bye Bye, Kirk" because it's a waste of time explaining to you what everyone else gets. There. Now. Are you ready? Here we go:
The issue is not whether employers choose to cover vasectomies; it's your claim that employers don't cover them because they consider vasectomies to be "cosmetic surgery". As David put it so well yesterday:
Nowhere in the piece David cited does it say that men have vasectomies for cosmetic reasons. Which calls into question who can read and who can't.
Good-bye, Kirk.
I truly have enjoyed seeing the republicans expose themselves as hypocrites... So far they will say anything to win a vote... Women's bodies seem to be public fodder... God or whatever Deity one believes in is more important than family or country...
I hope they have more debates before November... It's been a circus....
Kirk -- You said 30% do not cover that procedure. So the majority of insurers do, right? You stated previously that the procedure was cosmetic thus elective. It is not cosmetic, understand now?????
You beat me to it Jack! Yikes. Maybe it will finally click with Kirk what the problem is. ; )
A guess a vasectomy could be considered cosmetic surgery if you are a pecker-head.
Forrest - that was pretty funny
bob-1805084
Houston (and qud),
But you're still going to blame Obama for the rise in gas prices anyway, aren't you? You don't seem to understand that somebody is making a killing because the law of supply and demand has ceased to function in the so-called "free market," and it's not Barack Obama who's benefiting. It's the oil companies who are paying into Mitt Romney's super PAC to get him elected so that he can make the "free" market even less free than it is now.
The worst economy since the Great Depression was back in 2008 to 2009 during the worst of the Bush Recession, which Obama prevented from turning into the Bush DEPRESSION with the stimulus bill.
Terry,
I still think they should get the whole crew back together and make them the cast of Real World: DC. Think about it...
I mean, central casting couldn't have set that up better.
DCIA, The amazing thing about this "conversation", and the one in which a lot of men seem to think women only take The Pill when they're about to have sex, is that these are the same people who are against sex education in school. Kirk is beyond "getting it".
Forrest, That was very funny!
Glad that tickled you Rob, we can't lose our sense of humor, we are all going to need it.
Sure you posted the incorrect name, Rob; I've got some ocean front property out back to sell you, too.
I just love how the right insists that Barack Obama was not vetted in 2008--if you really believe that, truely, you're all living on Newt's Moon Colony. Do you honestly think that Hillary Clinton's campaign would let some tidbit slide by without using it. The fact is that when a person lives a good life, the media cannot find anything to report. That's what the right doesn't want to hear. He made few mistakes during that race whereas other candidates made many. The media doesn't give one side or the other a pass--if there's stuff out there, they find it and it isn't shelved. There was no coronation. Barack Obama worked hard for that nomination, fought against the birther, secret Muslim, is a terrorist crap coming from FOX, Rush and the rest of the right-wing sheep. He ran an excellent campaign and defeated Hillary Clinton.
Obama/Biden 2012.
Where's Tim Pawlenty on that list? :(
Ruken,
I had to give the role of "Nice Guy" to Huntsman since he stuck it out on the crazy train longer. Not everyone makes it in this industry, you know. :)
Ruken -
Re your comment 1.29 about mine 1.27 about net gasoline exports, you are exactly right. Buy low, sell high. The "high" in this case is Brent crude.
For those unfamiliar with what that is, and what it means to us...
For Northeast and West coast areas, given the lack of pipeline distribution from the Gulf area, these areas are net importers.
But you're right - "drill-baby-drill" and Keystone pipelines will make no difference in retail prices as this is a drop in the bucket in world markets as the benchmark is more expensive Brent crude.
"Buy low, sell high"
Sarah
You are really out there today. Romney has a 6 - 1 advantage in direct corporate funding and Corporate Super Pack funding. It isn't ending because less than 40% of the Republican party are buying what they are being sold by this deficient candidate.
And Sarah, for such a pretty face you type with a lot of vinegar and the vinegar content is increasing. You get a lot better results with sugar than vinegar.
Raab,
How's the latest (not so) Breitbart "non-troversy" coming along? I saw the vid...why don't you just admit that it's just another pile of Breitbart "move along...nothing to see here" crap?
Andrew Breitbart: Loser in life...even BIGGER loser in death.
Jack and David, see this is where you guys dont get the health insurance world. Cosmetic for this purpose doesnt mean cosmetic to make you look beautiful, cosmetic means it was elective for purposes other than medically necessary. Of course men, dont have vasectomies for purposes of having their private parts look better. It is so easy for you to deflect the debate from my point. Would it be easier for you to stay on point? Its hard for me to believe you and David dont really understand the point but would prefer to avoid the economic discussion that you must feel you are losing in order to focus on cosmetic
David and Forrest -- Thanks for the chuckles this morning!
Sarah -- Agree with your thoughts on Romney. Embrace it!
Jack -- Maybe they had a note excusing them from sex ed. : )
DB,
My point was that without the Super Pac backers like Foster Friese and Adelson, Gingrich and Santorum would be out long ago. That would have been all she wrote folks. The Super Pacs are the only thing allowing either of those guys to remain in the race, and thus the race keeps going.
And I'm guessing that if it weren't for my "pretty face" you would have no problem with the level of "vinegar" in my posts. Can't handle something you can't fit into a cookie cutter, huh?
Hellllooooooo, patronizing. And if we're going to discuss my face, I prefer the term cherubic.
LOL!
The poor nut job from NJ got herself all wet over NOTHING!
There was no coronation
Jody, your head is so far in the sand. I watched Soledad O'Brien live this morning. She is more effective than any Obama superpac the presdient could ever hope for. The video was so astonishing it's gone viral.
Get with the program. The media is in the tank for Obama always has been always will be.
Hell look to what extend Dan Rather went to on Bush (fake but accurate). He ruined his career. Now fast forward to Obama. Instead of producing fake documents they hit the delete button on anything negative.
The campaign goes on because the GOP hasn't found anyone really qualified to fill the position. All of these candidates suck, which unfortunately, has been the case for quite a few of the last elections. We need real leaders.... people with a vision rather than self centered egotists and game show hosts who kiss the butts of the highest campaign funders. Doesn't matter which party either...... a sorry state of affairs for a once great country.
Hey Amy In Portland: Here's an interesting link about tornadoes. My parents and siblings survived this outbreak. Do you attribute it to global warming? Thanks to Wikipedia! They described it just like it was told to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1944_Appalachians_tornado_outbreak
SuperPACS (hold on while I just lose my mind over this abomination from the Supreme Court) could be the reason these races go on. I do think that the psychotic arm of the Republican party has somehow tried to paint itself as the face of the Republican party, and those Republicans who try to make sense are split with the psycho brand. This has to have something to do with it, too. There's no sensical candidate that naturally happens to embrace social conservatism with a normal mind, and therefore can appeal to both nut jobs and moderates. Whatever comes over the line at the end of these primaries is going to have two flat tires. And then the ohmygodsoexciting election is going to be about whether you think Obama has one or three flat tires. At least half of Republicans will have to see if they can swallow the medicine. Unfortunately for them, it looks like the psychotic brand won't if the candidate is Mitt, and moderates don't seem to like any of them right now.
This is what happens when you pander to the ludicrous end of your party. Democrats have psychos too, but despite all the hype from the psycho conservatives, the psycho liberals actually ARE taking a back seat. And that's why their brand happens to still be driving with their ramshackle car, just to milk that analogy.
DCIA, thanks for the assistance and your general lack of understanding of how insurance labels elective surgeries. Not all cosmetic surgeries are considered something to make you beautiful and just like everything else where everyday usage is different than industry usage. Nice deflection from point again though where David uses vasectomies as a rationale for mandating contraceptive usage and I successfully point out that many of us think contraceptives should be treated just like vasectomies and not mandated but an employer choice. Do you get it?
Houston,
Oil is a commodity, much of it priced on futures.
The speculators don't speculate on what the supply and demand is today - they know what the supply and demand is today - they speculate on the future. (Is this stuff really above your level?)
As you should know, the recession began in December 2007, peaked in September 2008 and officially ended in July 2009 well before anything Obama could have done had time to take effect.
The recovery under Obama is for all practical purposes worse than the recession under Bush.
Unemployment when Obama took office was 7.6%. It has been at an actual rate of 10% for almost 3 years under Obama.
Obama has not created 1 new net job under his administration and probably never will.
Median income dropped twice as much under Obama as it dropped under Bush during the actual recession.
The more and more people on food stamps every month, greater federal assistance than any time in history and record numbers of Americans at the poverty level .... all under Obama.
It is a fact that Obama is a disaster.
Why do you defend this epic failure ... don't care about Americans suffering, care about anything other than your hero?
We spend far more money in the US on Viagra and boob jobs than we do on Alzheimer's research, someday we will have lots of old men with erections staring at old women with perky boobs, but they won't remember why or what to do next.
How's the latest (not so) Breitbart "non-troversy" coming along? I saw the vid...why don't you just admit that it's just another pile of Breitbart "move along...nothing to see here" crap?
Sure Sure Mickey keep up that "non-troversy" talking point up. Brietbart has successors like Joel Pollak to keep the media honest.
There's plenty more to come. It will be a slow steady drip. Couple Obama's past with his present failures and that is a sure recipe for one and done!
At least Forrest's remark was non-partisan! Good one Mr. Grump.
knowing that opposing thoughts are hammered with great name calling and denigration i would reflect on the state of the democrat primary approximately 4 years ago. with 2,998 committed delegates from primary and caucus events the two remaining candidates had nearly split:
obama had 1533 1/2 (51%)
clinton had 1427 1/2 (49%)
so the competition kept going into early june before clinton finally got the message that the democrats were not ready for a female president and quit.
Watched the video of Obama - I think Democrats will be proud of what it shows and Republicans will think they've hit pay dirt. It doesn't bring anything new to the table.
As to why Mitt hasn't wrapped this primary up yet - as much as I would rather see Romney as the nominee and I think he will be, it seems just a bit arrogant of Romney to dismiss his opponents and declare only an act of God could derail his destiny.
Does Romney automatically assume the conservatives and the south will just have to shut up and accept the inevitability of his nomination? Kinda like his poor dog - just tie them on for the ride.
Forrest said: We spend far more money in the US on Viagra and boob jobs than we do on Alzheimer's research, someday we will have lots of old men with erections staring at old women with perky boobs, but won't remember why or what to do next.
What do you mean someday? I have that problem already! LOL.
I heard at the nursing home they give the cranky old men sleeping pills and Viagra, so they don't have to deal with them. The sleeping pills knock them out, and the Viagra keeps them from rolling out of bed.
All of this really doesn't matter. They will line up behind whomever survives. The contentiousness is nothing more than theater for the masses. Once the battle is over the combatants will all embrace and start kissing each other's posteriors.
People who are facing bread and butter issues are so completely removed from most of this narrative.
Watched the video of Obama - I think Democrats will be proud of what it shows and Republicans will think they've hit pay dirt. It doesn't bring anything new to the table.
The video is not so much about Obama's radical youth. What is more telling is the news is manufactured and manipulated. The video in 2008 was edited to Obama's benefit.
Look at the current contraception debate. It started as a Constitutional religious freedom debate and the media has been complicit in turning it into a war on women bulls*%t story.
Katheryn Brandy said: As to why Mitt hasn't wrapped this primary up yet - as much as I would rather see Romney as the nominee and I think he will be, it seems just a bit arrogant of Romney to dismiss his opponents and declare only an act of God could derail his destiny.
It just might be God that puts an end to Romney.
I'm pretty sure it will be the voters that put an end to Obama. As gasoline prices spike and inflation is starting to climb, unemployment is still very high and the economy isn't recovering, it will boil down to those basic items on election day.
There have been 37 employment reports since Obama took office. Out of those 37, how many have been positive? Anyone? Anyone? Out of 37 employment reports there have been zero... 0, none, nada, that have been positive. And the liberals think non-liberals haven't noticed this. We know liberals think 37 consecutive bad employment reports favors Obama... but for the life of me, I don't understand their logic.
This election will boil down to one thing this time... the economy... Obama will have had almost 4 years to make some semblance of improvement... and he simply hasn't done anything that will be in his favor.
The primaries are dragging on and on because there is no wannabe candidate still in the race that has distinguished himself out of the original gaggle of dreadfully bad "hopefuls". Out of gates we had Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Santorum, Huntsman, Romney, Gingrich, and Paul...a sad bunch by any measure. Four of these unfortunate souls are still slugging it out because the electorate believes they are all poor choices. The lousy Republican turnout during a hard-fought primary season is a clear indication of what the voters think of them. Who among these losers will inspire voters to turn out in November? In contrast, President Obama has a motivated voter base that is composed largely of the blocs that the GOP has stepped on along the way: women, minorities, union workers, moderates, independents, seniors, and young people. Obama will win this election as much through the incompetence of his rivals as by the loyalty of the voters who supported him in his first election.
Obama by default in November. There is no other choice.
"I'm pretty sure it will be the voters that put an end to Obama."
Latest update on what the voters think about President Obama versus his primary GOP challengers:
Romney vs. President Obama:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Santorum vs. President Obama:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_santorum_vs_obama-2912.html
Gas prices aren't going to be enough to float the GOP's boat. Real issues are at stake and the losers the Republican Party is pinning its hopes on are still locked in a poop fight at the monkey house of epic proportions.
Obama will win in November. Read 'em and weep.
@ Bob lets get one thing straight gas prices dropped to $1.68 in Nov 2008 because the ass feel out of the economy that you guys spent 8 years running into the ground. Do you actually think people are stupid enough to believe it was because Bush went to congress? Gas prices were high his entire presidency and haven't recovered since and probably never will.
These new videos that fox news has un-earthed are pretty funny. The strategy in this election again is to run around screaming Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers at the top of their lungs and pray to god someone will pay attention. These videos aren't going to do anything but stir up the lunatics in their base. My wife and I watched it last night and for the life of me I couldn't understand what I was supposed to be pissed off about.
Wasn't Dukakis up by 19 points right about this time against Bush?
How did that turn out?
Hey Feisty!
You might want to learn to spell before you create a really dumb acronym. What's a "DORC"? Typical...
I know we're all on here talking serious points and all that jazz, but is no one really going to comment on David's post? I was rolling, that was hilarious...and then Jack in P. comes on here and quotes another one from him yesterday, wow. I know this is all serious material, but lighten up a little and laugh, that sh!t was funny!
Sarah, they are no more unholy than anybody else. They just have a different opinion that you and the ones you hold as superior.
"Wasn't Dukakis up by 19 points right about this time against Bush?"
Dukakis wan't the incumbent and the GOP wasn't crashing and burning as they are now. How is the Train Wreck method of operating a primary race working out for the Republicans, by the way? Being a political laughing stock is so hard on a political party, you know.
Being a political laughing stock is so hard on a political party, you know.
You finally have Obama pegged!
Liberals are banking on the republican battle bringing the republican candidate down and therefore insuring a win for Obama. I am glad they are banking on that alone.
What they aren't banking on is Obama's performance. Liberals totally ignore his performance because they have been brainwashed into thinking Obama is doing a stellar job. The rose colored glasses liberals look through are not reality. Obama's silky laden voice, his well scripted teleprompter and his snake oil salesman approach will not win the day. Actualities, reality and conditions of his leadership will take him down. Poor economic conditions are the hallmark of the Obama presidency. People are having a hard time making ends meet. Wages have gone down while unemployment is high. If liberals think these things don't matter and how heavily they weigh on the president's re-election, liberals are lying to themselves. In all actuality, liberals think Obama is a shoe-in despite these conditions. They need to check history. They need to examine why incumbent presidents have lost in the past. If liberals are honest, after examining historical trends, they will start to realize why Obama will be a one term president. Ask Jimmy Carter.
DB,
What are you talking about? Who is they and how does that pertain to anything I've posted on this vine?
Are you talking about Friese and Adelson? It's not about whether I agree with their views, it's a FACT that they are the only things keeping Gingrich/Santorum in this race. Regardless of whether or not I want them in it, that doesn't change the facts.
Jack, David and DCIA, in order for you to have some additional egg on your faces (although I have to admit some of your responses obviously done in ignorance were pretty funny) go to About.com and look up the definition of elective cosmetic surgeries and how many insurance companies look at it. When you see under that definition something called vasectomies I will be more than happy to take your apology
http://www.gallup.com/poll/153161/Unemployment-February.aspx
What's going on here....
I thought Obama had everything getting better.
Here are some of Obama's accomplishments and desires. Do your own research liberals. These things are in the open and Obama has stated such:
Look at his Czars...anti-business..anti- american.
As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Barack Hussien Obama is
following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University ... They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands.
Add up the clues below.
Taken individually they're alarming.
Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn
the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority
that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted
on to always vote for bigger government.
Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.
Universal health care: The health care bill has very little to do with health
care.
It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents (who will join government employee unions).
Obama doesn't care that giving free health care to 30 million Americans
will add trillions to the national debt.
What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30 million voters to Democrats and big government .
Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill
in the middle of a depression?
Cap and trade: Like health care legislation having nothing to do with
health care, cap and trade has nothing to do with global warming.
It has everything to do with redistribution of income, government control
of the economy and a criminal payoff to Obama's biggest contributors.
Those powerful and wealthy unions and contributors (like GE, which owns
NBC, MSNBC and CNBC) can then be counted on to support everything Obama wants.
They will kick-back hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to
Obama and the Democratic Party to keep them in power.
The bonus is that all the new taxes on Americans with bigger cars,
bigger homes and businesses helps Obama "spread the wealth around."
Stimulus and bailouts.
Where did all that money go?
It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions -- including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country.
It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could
keep paying union dues.
It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out
(after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions).
A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues).
All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their
bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America .
The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful..
The ends justify the means.
Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job
creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers,
redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did
nothing to deserve it (except vote for Obama).
Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Barack Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition.
With the acts outlined above, Barack Hussien Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system.
Add it up and you've got the perfect Marxist scheme -- all devised by
my Columbia University college classmate Barack Hussien Obama using the Cloward and Piven Plan!!!!!
@Damage123
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
It's a liberal conspiracy!
Brianb - don't say God will put an end to Romney. Number one, it's not nice and number two - truly out of all the Republican candidates, I really do think Romney is the only one that can appeal to the moderates in the party.Romney can always chose a social conservative as his running mate,but you need the moderate as the Presidential candidate. And I'm sorry,but I just don't see any of the other nominees getting selected - they're a bit too independent to be a wingman.
"I am glad they are banking on that alone."
Not at all. The reality is the GOP is losing its voter base by alienating several critical groups. Most important among them are the moderates whom the Republican Party abandoned in its zeal to cultivate the right wing lunatic fringe vote. Add to that the groups I mentioned above, including women, minorities, union workers, seniors, etc. and the GOP are nearly bankrupt for credible voters. The GOP is a party of exclusion, not inclusion, and that is a recipe for losing elections, not winning them. Furthermore, the image of the GOP as the Party of Nope is frustrating voters who are looking for solutions from the government, not impediments. The fact that the hilarious primary race has been a huge embarrassment to the GOP is just another nail in the coffin in which its hopes for November are going to be buried.
So when the GOP goes to the bank looking for voters to push it over the top, they will find only the right wing lunatic fringe waiting for them, and that is not going to win this election.
And if Brian is banking on marxist/socialist name-calling tactics to scare voters into the GOP's grim, unhappy arms, he may as well give it up. I'm glad that is all he is banking on.
Glenn Beck, Brian? Really? Damn.
No woman with a brain should vote for Santorum.
And more women vote in elections than men.
I have to disagree Brianb, in my opinion the biggest factor in Carter's defeat was the Iran hostage crisis, and this president has out performed the previous president with regards to his ability as CIC. The economy is tough but it was worse when he took the helm and is much better now by almost all measures less and less people everyday believe that the republicans single minded strategy of tax cuts will improve the situation. He is not in as bad of political shape as republicans wish to believe, especially if he is running against a multi-millionaire Mormon who's big idea for the economy is to cut taxes for the wealthy. To bad for Romney that he does not have the charisma Thristen Howell the III had. In the end there just won't be enough people to hold their nose and vote for Romney for him to win the general election, and the worse part of the whole deal for republicans is that they will have to listen to Ann Coulter say I told you so.
How thick is dense?
Obama has been calling senate democrats to instruct them to vote against the Keystone Pipeline bill.
After seeing a record number of democrat lost seats in the midterms I wonder how convinciing Mr. you've got me Obama will be. Manchin and Landreau sure aren't buying his crap anymore.
This presdient is just stuck on stupid. Wake up Obama no one likes your Obama Care and everybody except some moonbats wants that pipeline. Good luck come November!
You mean the pipeline that will have no effect on the price of gasoline in the United States?
The question should be why isn't the DNC opening up the Democratic Primaries to other contestants?
Surely Obama can't be the best candidate that the democrats can field with 43 million registered democrats.
While the Republicans have a wide open nasty primary with all issues, opinions and arguments open for public opinion and scrutiny, the democrats are chained to Obama like a dog to a tree!
There is no discussion, opinions are not allowed, issues can't be raised and forget about arguments!
The COMMENT AREA BY DEMOCRATS AND LIBERALS is CLOSED!
There can be no comments on the horrible jobs by democrat senators and congressmen, or the president. There can be no discussion why Obama couldn't get along for two years with his democratic congress and one year with his bipartisan congress. There can't be a critique why he wasted trillions of dollars on the Iraq and Afghanistan wars without setting up prowestern governments. There can be nothing said about his wasting 240,000 tons of food, we don't have on North Korea. The democrats can't complain that Obama is not marshaling European, Turkish and Arab forces against Syria. Obama is meddling in North Korea when it is a Japanese, Indonesian, Australian, South Korean, and New Zealand problem. The U.S. should let North Korea wither on the vine and let them starve themselves into non existence or let Russia and China fed them. North Korea is not going to bomb anyone, the North Korea big boys don't want to live in a country that is a cinder.
What has to be faced is Iran and Obama doesn't have the intelligence and balls to set up a universal program with the Arabs, Israelis, Europeans and Turks to dismember Iran and stop this horse shi*.
Obama doesn't want the U.S. to be energy independent by developing hydrogen fuels that China, Japan, England and Norway are developing. Norway a country with 5 million has hydrogen fueled cars on their highways and hydrogen service stations.
Our great leader, fake, fraud and fool has cut research into hydrogen fuels 90%.
He probably doesn't know that hydrogen fuel is available in limitless supply, completely renewable, non polluting can replace coal, oil, natural gas and nuclear energy.
He has been the most divisive president in our history and refuses to acknowledge that he is half white.
Who in his right mind is going to order the outright murder of the general of the opposing army when he has the opportunity to capture him alive and obtain very secret important information?
That's because it IS a war-on-women story and NOT a religious freedom debate. Despite the struggles of conservatives and evangelicals to make it otherwise.
Cloward and Piven, wasn't that those two old guys with the funny wine commercials?
Please cite some example on how contraceptives are either in short supply or unable to be accessed.
War on Women?...how pathetic.
Rob in ma - I agree with you that there are elements on both sides in the media that massage what is put out there,but this issue on women's rights was not manufactured. The Rush Limbaugh episode merely led a lot of women to start looking into the problem of how their rights are being restricted. You may think women's rights are "bulls**t,but I assure you - 51% of the electorate do not. Once again - here is what really has caused women concern:
Rep.Wayne Christian said,"Well,of course, it's war on birth control and abortions and everything. That's what family planning is suppose to be about."
Joe Pitts of Pennsylvania - proposed new GOP bill to allow hospitals to refuse to provide an abortion even when the procedure is necessary to save women's lives.
GA bill - to redefine victims of rape,stalking, and domestic violence as "accusers" instead of victims of abuse
Wendy Rogers - Women should not have an abortion even to prevent the unfortunate death of the mother.
Thomas White - Baptist Theological Seminary - declared use of birth control pills is murder of a life
Mitt Romney - "I hope to reclassify the most commonly used forms of contraceptives as abortions."
House Rep. Chris Smith proposes legislation that would redefine rape to "forcible rape" must be proven
Maryland schoolboard -cut funding for HeadStart because, as two republican commissioners said -women should be married and home with their kids so the program would be unnecessary.
Santorum has said states have the right to outlaw contraceptives.
2010 -Republicans voted unanimously against the Paycheck Fairness Act (which would ensure women equal pay)
For the first time since it was enacted, the vote was down party lines - Republicans voted against reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act.
WI Republican Senator Glenn Grothman proposes bill that labels single parenthood as child abuse
In this case - this stuff wasn't manufactured - women were just made aware of it because of the Republican stance on contraceptives.
Not so fast Romney! If Sarah Palin would agree to get in the
race, if this does go to a brokered convention, then certainly you will NOT be
the nominee.
Even the thought of Sarah Palin jumping in the race at the
convention is exciting even to me, and I'd rather eat sand than to vote for
either her or Romney, but it would be exciting, and it would surely cause a
stir!
Obama / Biden 2012
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TO: Rukenwho wrote:
I heard on the news that it will take 45 years before the Keystone Pipeline would have any effect on the price of gasoline in the United States, IF ever.
BUT, for the next 45 years some folks will have jobs building it, IF Nebraska would agree. So far, Nebraska doesn't want the pipeline going through that State.
My question is, Who's paying for the Keystone Pipeline because if I can't have affordable health care I damn sure don't want to spend my hard earned tax money on any multi-billion dollar oil company project!!!
Woodlawn,
Facts like that will only get you the "racist: label around here. But please keep posting a few normal people do participate here.
[Brietbart has successors like Joel Pollak to keep the media honest.]
Raab...Joel Pollak is another Allen West, and just as insignificant...besides, only you would consider a Seinfeld look-a-like a (not so) Breitbart "successor"...you probably support "Joe the (fake) Plumber", too.
Politicians like Pollak...their days are numbered. America and Americans are moving beyond the divisiveness and misrepresentation these agitators represent.
But you continue to hold that torch high for the "conspiracy theories" and "non-troversies out there...hey, some ignorant fool has to do it, might as well be you, right?
Rob,
Here are some sources on pricing/access. As with all things in life, access is dependant on your economic situation. In some cases, Planned Parenthood may be the only option open to some.
http://womantowomancbe.wordpress.com/2008/11/22/average-cost-of-a-birth/
http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/alpha-consumer/2010/08/27/the-real-cost-of-birth-control-
http://contraception.about.com/od/birthcontroldecisions/p/costs.htm
http://fertilewindow.blogspot.com/2010/09/what-does-birth-control-cost.html
And that doesn't even begin to discuss the issue as it pertains to preventative care. Just imagine if it was men's sex lives dependant on spending that kind of money, huh???
Thanks Katheryn and Sarah for filling in the facts.
And know that there are men out here who do support women.
Fielden,
If you can pass the word on that life is much easier once you learn to breathe through your nose, it might help some of your brothers. :)
divisiveness and misrepresentation these agitators represent.
Mickey,
Ya still don't get it. Warmer temps are on the way. Soon the pot head occupier/agitators will be rising back up from their parents basement ready to piss off the working class once again with their obama 1% rhetoric.
I'm on one margin and you are on the other. But if you think the voters in the middle are going to be happy with the $5 gas prices, idiots in the street pissing on cop cars, and an in the tank media that just sings obama's praises you are beyond help.
Good Times
Actually sparky, we are banking on Obama's performance as compared to the clown show the GOP has been putting on in the Senate, the House, and the campaign. The GOP has been very effective in persuading marginally intelligent people to vote against their own interests, I'll give them that, but not much else. The fact of the matter is that the MAJORITY of people see through the epic incompetence propagated by the GOP starting with the Newtster's "contract with America", spending untold millions of dollars trying to bring down a democrat president, followed by the astounding ignorance showed by Curious George and his clown posse (where is Brownie these days anyways, back at the horse farm), and then back to trying to oust another democrat president, and the only consistency in their actions was that they didn't give one squat about the effects of their actions on the American people. Blather all you want, save it for Nov 9th because if you think you're pissed now....
Fielden - There are men in the Republican party that support women - my husband is one of them.The Republican Party has allowed a certain element to hold it hostage these last few years. I think the serious people in the Republican establishment have finally said enough, but whether it is in time for Nov. remains to be seen. After 35 years as a dyed in the wool Republican, my husband said he is switching party affiliation -not to Democrat (what can I say -after 32years,you accept the differences), but he is going to Independent.
Forrest said: I have to disagree Brianb, in my opinion the biggest factor in Carter's defeat was the Iran hostage crisis, and this president has out performed the previous president with regards to his ability as CIC. The economy is tough but it was worse when he took the helm and is much better now by almost all measures less and less people everyday believe that the republicans single minded strategy of tax cuts will improve the situation.
Forrest - I know you are younger than I am... and when Carter was at re-election, it was the first time I could legally vote. When I was 18, I was a liberal, undoubtedly. I voted for Carter. Of course I didn't really pay attention back then because it was just a novelty for me to be able to vote the first time. My brain was full of nonsense and I voted for the candidate my liberal parents voted for. They were both union members working for the state.
Looking back, the Iran hostage situation was bad for Carter, but what I think killed his chances was the misery index. Unemployment was staggering, inflation was out of control, interest rates were unbelievable and the general economy was in chaos. We didn't have the national debt back then like we do now.
I don't think this society has a different opinion on the economy. What miniscule gains have occurred in the economy over the last 3 years will not add much confidence going forward. The same type approach is still being proffered by Obama. He's not for small business. He's not for adding to our GDP. He's doing nothing to bring back jobs and in fact he's negative in that area. He will not allow for any oil drilling, or exploration of new fields. He stops oil from being the substance it is, without offering any replacement energy source that could replace it without costing so much more in real dollars.
What Obama does have going for him is the media. As you know perception is reality to most people. The mainstream media plays into his hands. Democrats are banking on the mainstream media to arm Obama to the hilt. Funny thing... my opinion of him hasn't changed because I see through the lame attempts at building him up for doing nothing. I would offer that I am not alone in this perception.
We may have a slight easing in some areas of the economy, but overall it stinks to the hilt. I don't see any attempts at building it either... no new ideas, no plans, no nothing. I do see a lot of corruption. I see money being wasted without explanation. I hear no explanations for where the stimulus money went other than into government employee's hands, unions and AIG. I see huge amounts being given to failing companies such as Solyndra and several others... huge amounts of money that are unaccounted for. Where is all that money going Forrest? Follow the money trail, it leads to the truth.
on your economic situation.
Key words their Sarah. My economic situation gets worse by the day as the left hoist more of someone elses burden on to me and other taxpayers.
Don't forget the war on transgender illegals. Actually, no worries the lefties won that war as well. All taxpayers are now on the hook for hormone therapy for detained illegal transgenders.
But hey the taxpayers have unlimited funds or we can just borrow more money from china.
You people are tapped!!!
Here you go....
Another proud record breaking moment for obama....
The federal government recorded its worst monthly deficit in history in February, according to a preliminary report Wednesday from the Congressional Budget Office that said the deficit in fiscal year 2012 is already more than half a trillion dollars.
The CBO’s figures show that despite repeated efforts to trim spending, the government has borrowed 42 cents of every dollar it spent during the first five months of this fiscal year.
American Girl said: I heard on the news that it will take 45 years before the Keystone Pipeline would have any effect on the price of gasoline in the United States, IF ever.
BUT, for the next 45 years some folks will have jobs building it, IF Nebraska would agree. So far, Nebraska doesn't want the pipeline going through that State.
My question is, Who's paying for the Keystone Pipeline because if I can't have affordable health care I damn sure don't want to spend my hard earned tax money on any multi-billion dollar oil company project!!!
Do you ever wonder where the news gets it's facts from? 45 years? Who made that number up? Who came up with the figures that it will take 45 years? This is where objective thinking comes in. You should not just blindly accept what the news says. I know I never just accept it, no matter who is doing the reporting. Who ever you listened to, was clearly using a spin tactic to support the president disapproving it. The pipeline would be good, no matter what. If it's not, then why aren't we dismantling the over 2,000 miles of pipeline that already exist in this country? Sometimes asking questions can formulate objective opinions instead of one sided opinions that brand your thinking non-objectively.
The Keystone pipeline is being paid for by the oil company that wants to run it. It's not being paid for by the taxpayers.
Rob,
What does that have to do with the price of rice in China? You asked a question pertaining to the costs/access of birth control. I'm guessing you didn't read the links and are just looking to post more of your vitriolic hatred of anything you assume is "liberal", but there are the facts.
It's not cheap, and by covering it under preventative care we all, even you, will save money on healthcare. If you're really concerned about costs to the taxpayers than I suggest you start petitioning for an end to the exemption of the healthcare industry to anti-trust laws, and promote our switching to a single payer system.
Until than, you can post all the crazy, "I hate gay Mexicans" stuff you want, but you're wasting your time and energy seeing as the problems facing this country have nothing to do with that tripe.
Now excuse me, I have to go use my foodstamps to buy salmon steaks for my pet transgendered illegal. Thanks, Rob and Raulia thanks you too!
Everyone Else,
And you all thought my bio statement was an exaggeration, lol?!?!?!?!?! It's all about the gay, Mexican, Muslims, folks.
http://freebeacon.com/sebelius-has-no-idea-if-obamacare-adds-to-the-deficit/print/
Save me money, huh????
Why don't you read the attached and see why I don't believe you and/or any liberal.
The issue of whether contraceptives should be mandated for employer coverage with no copays is a totally different issue than the issues related to access to contraceptives for woman of any economic status. Obama has been trying to make this about woman's rights but its not as his mandate only impacts economic issues for employers. Access for the poor or unemployed is not part of this debate. At the employer level, its not true that covering it under preventative care saves money because employed woman that have employer provided health insurance dont tend to have unwanted pregnancies. So this issue is all about pandering for the female vote. There are already woman's preventive care mandated coverage for things like mammograms and I dont hear the GOP trying to take that away so to make this an attack the GOP issue is just wrong. Its economic. Employers should have the choice just like they have on other employer provided health coverage design benefits to choose what they provide their employees. OBY/GYN benefits are not even mandated so why is contraception? We dont mandate vaccines for kids, shouldnt that be mandated before contraception? Plus why the no copays etc. Get real, this is not a woman's right issue, just like everything Obama and quite frankly all politicians do, it is a pandering for votes issue.
Rob in ma-3189632 Few comment, many read. As you saw no liberal dared make a comment or tried to disagree. Democrats are tied to Obama like a dog is tied to a tree.
Of the 43 million registered democrats not one is allowed to speak freely against Obama. They are muzzled. What does that remind you of?
" I hate gay Mexicans"
Jeez Sarah,
Kind of insulting to transgenders. That's a lefty though. Lose on substance so hit the pedal with RACIST and HOMOPHOBE.
Typical moonbat
Funny, my first post of the day that got collapse above spoke about how any conservative thought, view, or theory is met from the left with your a RACIST.
Very pathetic Very Sad
Rob,
Again (sigh) what makes healthcare expensive is that they allow it to be a MONOPOLY. The industry is exempt from anti-trust laws. Furthermore, we're on a fee for service system. That's why preventative care has never been covered before. Because on a fee for service system, the healthcare providers only get paid for services/tests rendered, which only occur after we get sick. If they prevent that from happening they don't make as much.
There are limited options...
1. We can continue to allow universal access to healthcare with only some of us paying for it all.
2. We can continue to allow universal access to healthcare with all of us paying for it.
3. We can deny uninsured people healthcare.
If you like number three, that's your right. But we can't be griping about how the individual mandate forces us to pay for each other, when it's actually the opposite. The mandate, mandates we all pay. What we have now, is what is forcing other's to pay and other's not to. The real issue here is that we're being mandated into a system which is a monopoly and it's that system, not AHA, that's costing us so much.
As to preventative care... There are also issues that are specific to men listed under preventative care. This is a GOOD thing. This will lead to lowering health costs. Republicans like "trickle down" right??? Think of this as trickle down health. If we cover things now, while they're relatively cheaper, we keep more expensive things from happening later. BC is cheaper than pregnancy, or long term healthcare for a child who has genetic conditions, or repurcussions to a woman who is, healthwise, incapable of carrying a child. I mean, before, simply being a woman was a pre-existing condition, because of pregnancy.
I also, really would like to compliment your choice of sources.
It's because mine is making fun of people who actually believe that tripe. You know, people like you...
Well I agree perception is reality for many people, but the majority perception is (and it is correct) that congress is the holdup on moving things forward for the average person. The president can't spend a dime Congress does not approve and this Congress has the lowest ratings ever recorded, the republicans in Congress are taking more heat for the economy than Obama is. If Obama is re-elected I feel that this republican controlled house will have been a big factor in his favor. To be fair about the media he has a whole media network that has been devoted to bashing him 24/7 since the day he was elected, Fox counts as media.
woodlawn1 -- Just curious. What are your credentials that would qualify you to speak on foreign security matters? Are you privy to highly classified intelligence?
BTW -- I have no problem blaming both parties in congress when it applies. An example: the tax code. They legislated a quagmire. And need to get busy cleaning up the mess!
LOL, do conservatives really think there is ANY comparison between sucking up to the Keystone pipeline LIE and showing leadership about proper discourse in the public square?
The pipeline is not an environmentalist issue, but rather an economic one. The pipeline will not create significant, permanent American jobs--rather most would go to Canadians, and will not reduce gas prices for Americans--rather it will help a foreign oil company sell more oil on the global market with convenient shipping from ports to China.
And the stimulus, seriously? Every neutral number cruncher out there has proved that the stimulus helped prevent a complete economic meltdown. If anything, it shows the stimulus would have been more successful if the infrastructure portion had been larger.
But the silliest thing of all is the part about Pelosi and Reid. The Teapublican Party is a mess on every level. From their failed platform of voodoo economics and neocon foreign policy to current inability to offer solutions of their own for health care reform, tax reform, campaign finance reform -- Anything! They are even inept at conducting their own primary elections and unable to stop stepping in steaming piles with attacks on seniors and Medicare, attacks on the middle class and unions, and now a renewed war on women.
Pelosi and Reid, OMG let's talk about Boehner/Cantor, Mitch McConnell and the long list of losers in the Teapublican congress -- What wonderful things can the far-Right attribute to these idiots? As for the GOP race, the lack of good candidates is just another symptom of the failure that is the Teapublican platform.
And the bottom line...the quotation at the top is typical "if other kids are doing it, why can't I" grade school logic. Teapublicans -- Stop with the fallacious argumentation of "you think Bush was bad, what about Clinton?" and start making a case why your Party is the best to lead our country back to recovery and success.
Everyone seems to know the Fox talking points in this seed.
The pipeline (once it is built, after several years) actually stands a good chance of increasing the price of gas in much of the country. Red herring.
The best way to fix the gas price roller-coaster would be for congress to get off their butts and re-institute the regulations on speculation in oil markets that were rolled back during the Clinton years. I don't know why liberals genuflect to that guy. He really set the stage for Bush to come in and really screw the country.
As for the GOP primary, it was over as soon as the candidates were all announced. Romney will win, because, despite all the holes in his character, there is enough Wall Street money available to him to keep him sort of pumped up. Just to make sure that the 1%'s candidate wins, Sheldon is willing to blow 100 million to keep Gingrich in the race to hamstring Santorum (as if his mouth isn't enough of a liability).
The millionaires and billionaires are spending a mint for the privilege of losing the executive branch again.
Now, we just have to make sure that they get bounced out of congress. Then, maybe, we can actually get some work done on this place.
Sarah, There is alot more to universal care than coverage. I dont really have any issues with the individual mandate, I just think Obamacare was a very poor method of addressing universal care and the expense of such care. Actually on preventive care, you are not always correct. Employers and insurance companies look at that all the time and trust me if it was cheaper to prevent today, they would be doing it in a second. Examples where preventive care is beneficial on a cost/benefit basis is the PSA test for men and mammograms (although even that is controversial as to whether coverage or getting woman to have it performed is the trigger) are good examples of preventive care coverage. Contraception is not because employed woman do not have unwanted pregnancies that employers have to pay that they otherwise wouldnt if they had paid for contraception.
But the real issue is two fold. I agree with your analysis on universal coverage on the access and coverage side but the stumbling block is always going to be who is going to pay for it and are we really ready for a system that will "ration" care and I mean ration in the sense that we will have a lower average plan coverage and have rationing of certain types of care. You cant add 40 million people to the existing sytem without increasing cost and lowering benefits.
Here is an article explaining why the price of gas would go up should the pipeline be completed.
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/27/10519685-why-the-keystone-pipeline-would-boost-pump-prices
woodlawn1: wow, am I glad you told me that. I didn't get the memo. Otherwise, I would have said that we should have pushed through a single payer system when we had the chance, but Obama didn't have the guts. I might say he should have stormed into the White House, trampling republicans underfoot, doing everything they wouldn't with signing statements, like Bush did, and just imposed some good reforms instead of trying to work with the lobotomized Right. Again, way to nice for that. Fool. I might also say he's way to close to the banks, and needs to kick the crap out of them instead of making sweet-heart deals over the foreclosure debacle. He's way to close to a lot of big money. He's too far right for me on many issues. Foreign policy is not one of his problems, but domestically, he promised good things, and we should have ram-rodded those things right through, just like Bush's rubber stamp congress did for 6 years.
But since I'm muzzled, I can't say anything bad about Obama. That sucks.
He's still better by an order of magnitude then any Ayn Rand Righty that can come forward.
I'm confused on this one. Do you mean "unemployed" woman? If you do, than you have to transfer the cost coverage to society or Medicaid. Either way, it's still cheaper to cover the BC. BC will always be cheaper, that's a fact, regardless of who the expense falls on. With the mandate, the expense is distributed throughout the greatest number of people, and everyone pays.
Not if we move off of fee for service. Like I said it's that which is the issue, as well as the exemption to the anti-trust laws. Of course pricing is going up, why wouldn't it if those companies have nothing to stop them from raping the hell out of us.
What if we paid doctors to keep us healthy instead of getting us healthy? What if it was an open market place, where your insurance could no longer dictate who takes care of you, and where you had numerous options in terms of insurance? We would go to whoever kept us healthiest for the least amount of money, right? AHA will do that, but only if we get rid of fee for service and the exemptions.
I think Republicans are realizing that attacking women and trying to restrict availability to contraceptives is not a winning ticket right now.
The Blunt - Rubio Bill is going nowhere. For all that Republicans said they would fight to get it enacted, they're walking it back.
Blunt says he thinks they've gotten all the votes they could possibly get on that bill,so it's shelved. Why? Because everyone is now trying to distance themselves from appearing to the voters that they are indeed against women's rights.
Flake says they've got a lot else on their plate,so this one will slide.
Sen. Murkowski now says she would not vote for the Blunt bill.
GOP Lingle says she would not vote for the bill either.
They may be pandering, but they also realize that women are a huge block of voters and women are looking beyond the contraceptive issue to all other legislation by Republicans that are against women.
Nice to hear that bit of information Katheryn. Thanks.
Employer's also get generous tax breaks and credits when they provide insurance. The reality then is that taxpayers that do not receive employer provided insurance are helping pay for those employers that do provide insurance.
Kinda unfair eh?
bob-1805084
Some speculators are legitimate, like airlines that must make allowances for the price of fuel they buy in the future. Other speculators not so much. Maybe you're too much of a simpleton to comprehend that there are MANY factors for the rise of gas prices, but those factors do NOT include anything Barack Obama has done. The rising tensions with Iran, exacerbated by speculators and warmongering Republicans is among those factors. So is the usual corporate greed for profits, which are skyrocketing.
Sez you, a non-Nobel-Prize-winning non-economic non-expert. The recession ended six months into Obama's term in office, and 5 months after the passage of the stimulus bill. That's PLENTY of time for the stimulus to start kicking in. The net job losses at the end of the Bush Recession and the beginning of the Obama Recovery turned into net job gains around of May of 2010. But of course, you're too blinded by Obama Derangement Syndrome to give Obama any credit for that, while you blame hims for the 700,000 net job losses at the beginning of his term before the stimulus bill had even passed, let alone take a few months to take effect.
Maybe you need to learn how to read a simple graph. The unemployment rate was at 10% for only about one month in the fall of 2009 as the graph of the unemployment rate shows at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/behind-the-numbers/post/obamas-unemployment-comeback/2011/12/01/gIQA6vgfVO_blog.html
HINT: One month is 1/36 of the three-years time you falsely claim the unemployment rate was above 105
And the nuclear reactor meltdown at Fukashima had nothing to do with the tsunami that hit Japan a year ago, since the meltdown occurred days after the tsunami was over? You seem to have trouble grasping the fact that the causes invariably precede effects, and the economic disaster that hit the United States was caused by the tsunami known as the Bush Administration.
Sarah,
I think Kirk did mean employed woman. What he is saying from my understanding is that employed women are less likely to have an unwanted/unexpected pregnancy. The reasoning for that could be either unwillingness to disrupt career, cost of contraception not being an issue, or greater education, etc. That being said when the employer is choosing wheter to insure contraception they do not see the benefit. Adding the cost of contraception will not bring many cost savings since the reduction in yearly pregnancies will be minimal or not enough to equate to the costs of providing contraception.
I have no data on this so I don't really have an opinion on it.
The Washington Free Beacon? Really, Rob? It is a right wing extremist zombie site that is derisively referred to as the Free Bacon by genuine journalists. It has no credibility and exists only to feed the ignorance of people like you.
Fail.
TheActivist-- Good point about the Tea Party. Where are they? The only demographic with increased turn-out are the richest 5% (incomes of $100,000 or more) for Romney. Whether that enthusiasm is all about tax cuts for the rich, or also about the secular values the rich tend to hold (i.e., anti-Santorum), these are the only conservatives showing any enthusiasm.
Fetuses, heck, the religious-Right have taken this back even from an embryo to the egg! Personhood legislation defines life as starting at conception, and I wouldn't be surprised if they try for a "twinkle in the eye" as definition for life next. And really, the word "life" means what -- potential life or an actual breathing independent life form? They use the word life rather than life form (mature organism) for a reason.
Speaking of terminology, and global warming versus climate change... global warming is only one kind of climate change. The Earth has gone from snowball Earth to water world to ice age to green house climates. Also, there can be a mix of extremes (hot and dry with cold and wet) at the same time. So it is correct to use the term "climate change" instead of global warming.
This goes for "free market" too. These economic theories, whether communism or what have you have never been practiced in a pure form, but neither could succeed in reality due to human greed. So get this through your heads, conservatives -- there never has been and never will be a "free market." The US and first world are hybrids of capitalism and socialism. The key is finding the right balance.
What we don't want is plutocracy (Romney), theocracy (Santorum), or anarchy (Ron Paul), and certainly not a fascist oligarchy (that the Teapublicn Party dreams of).
This is the one part of your post I don't completely agree with. Women are at least 50% of the population, which is far more than the black population. So if anything one might argue that folks weren't ready for a black president.
The main reason Hillary did not win was her vote on the Iraq war, but also at the time she was very polarizing -- Though we know any Dem will be hated by the far-right regardless of gender or race now with such intense divisiveness and the propaganda that fuels it.
In regard to gender and the renewed War on Women -- from all Republicans voting against the Lilly Ledbetter bill for equal pay, to the forced ultrasound legislation Bob McDonnell of Virginia just signed into law -- this would not be going on if there were more women holding political office. Technically women should hold 50% of seats in legislatures if our Republic was truly representative, and it's not even close to that.
For those not familiar with Lilly Ledbetter's story, it is heart-wrenching. She was being paid 40% less for the same job during her career, and this ripples out to so many aspects of life including Social Security pay out during retirement. It's inexcusable, especially in this day and time!
Thank goodness the Teapublican imbeciles have shelved the Blunt-Rubio amendment (at least for now). What an incredibly extreme crazy piece of crap that amendment is. Just like the federal judge and his racist email, it shows poor judgement. Who wants idiots with poor judgement in charge of our nation?
Throw the Dark Ages Teapublicans out -- Obama/Biden - 2012!
The Washington Free Beacon? Really, Rob? It is a right wing extremist zombie site that is derisively referred to as the Free Bacon by genuine journalists. It has no credibility and exists only to feed the ignorance of people like you.
Well then go to the congressional record. Sebillus's comments are qouted from her testimony..
Houston
In my first post, I gave you quotes, Obama and Chu in their words on how they wanted to raise the price of gas, how their policies would increase the price of gas and you deny their own words?
Remember when prices used to spike when a hurricane would even threaten production in the Gulf?
Obama shuts the Gulf down for a year and now is allowing only a fraction of past approvals .... and you say he hasn't effected prices? Salazar cancels 77 leases on the mainland - restricts production in Utah, Montana, Colorado....shuts down big parts of Alaska ... the East Coast ....and you say Obama hasn't effected price?
Your willful stupidity is simply stunning.
Sheez ... even Obama later laughed and admitted there was no such thing as a "shovel ready job!
Do you honestly think you can even let a bid for a bridge in 5 months .... how old are you?
Even Obama's own CBO says the real rate is 10%+ instead of the bs numbers the administration uses. Even Obama's own CBO says the actual rate will be 10% through 2014!
2010? Wasn't that supposed to be the Great Summer of Recovery that never happened - heck Obama never even talks about numbers anymore. When is the last time you heard give a number projection?
Bottom line is that after 3 years, after a new $5 trillion in debt - Obama has not created one new net job.
The guy is a disaster, has no clue.
Neither do you or any of the other humpers ... never will - you guys are just a waste of time.
Dont_carry_it_all If you have any thoughts that these matters are highly classified foreign matters, you should see the real classified documents.
These are every day incidents and I offered common sense reality solutions that your great leader is afraid to face and tell the American people that these alternatives exist and that he is planning to talk with other countries to come up with strategies to relieve the burden on the U.S.
It is pointless to discuss with you anything, as you do not acknowledge these obvious solutions and are one of the dogs tied to the democratic tree with Obama sitting on a limb.
Three years have demonstrated that without a doubt Obama has been the worst president that the U.S. has ever had in its history. From doubling black male unemployment to giving $500,000,000 to a Finnish Car Company to compete with General Motors to mindlessly continuing two wars he doesn't want to conclude in favor of the U.S., sowing disharmony between the races, refusing to reveal his history and qualifications, this man has not shown one iota of leadership or courage.
Sarah
Are you talking about Friese and Adelson?'
No worse that Soros or David Rockefeller - but then you are pretty young and might not know anything about the latter. You might ask Ex-con Trafficant about that one, but I think he won't talk about that.
DB,
I have equal disdain for any Obama Super Pacs.
Akeem,
Ahhh, I get it. In which case, HOLY GENERALIZATION KIRK! Do you have any data to back that claim up? No, sh** happens to employed women also.
Sarah, just from my employer with 40,000 covered employees and it's health care advisors when we went through that cost benefit analysis. Since we picked up 80 percent overall of the employees aggregate health care costs at an annual cost of about 100 million, we definitely would do anything to reduce costs. The number of covered woman who have fewer pregnancies as a result of the employer paying for the coverage is almost none. Most if not all employed woman would pay for it themselves if not covered let alone have statistically high number of unwanted pregnancies.
That said, I agree with many of your points needed to move forward on universal care
Ahhhhh, Woodlawn. You're still a birther!! Too funny. Doesn't your rock get any credible news?
From POLITICO –
NEW REPORT – 2012 GOP PRIMARY TURNOUT LOWER THAN 2008, 2000: The trend of underwhelming GOP voter turnout continued on Super Tuesday. "Of the thirteen states with presidential primaries which have voted so far, eight had lower turnout than 2008, five had higher – all states that allowed independents or both independents and Democrats to vote in the GOP primaries in a year when there was no Democratic presidential contest," according to turnout expert Curtis Gans, who compiled the data in a joint effort of the Bipartisan Policy Center and the Center for the Study of the American Electorate. This table compares Republican turnout in 2012 to 2008, 2000, 1996 and 1992: http://bit.ly/Acal7f.
Total turnout: 2012 v 2008 = down 14.7% and 2012 v 2000 = down 6.7%
http://www.politico.com/morningscore/0312/morningscore548.html
Yesterday, March 7, on his MSNBC show Martin Bashir wrote for his Clear the Air segment:
It’s now time to clear the air and as the great Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., says, in his book of sermons, “Strength to Love,” “the ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.”
So let’s apply Dr. King’s moral measure to Mitt Romney, the man who won six states on Super Tuesday and hopes to become president. Because before he notched up these vainglorious victories, Mr. Romney – like almost every public figure – faced up to a challenge: how to respond to the repugnant and demeaning remarks from the Republican Party’s loudest spokesman, Mr. Rush Limbaugh?
Romney was not subjected to a difficult interview, nor a gotcha question but he did take no less than two opportunities to make his position abundantly clear.
Mitt Romney: “I'll just say this, which is, it’s not the language I would have used. I’m focusing on the issues that I think are significant in the country today.”
This moment, quite apart from his general awkwardness in public and his complete failure to connect with anyone other than his wealthy backers – this moment is a defining moment for Mitt Romney. Because, this was Mitt Romney’s moment of “challenge and controversy.”
He could so easily have offered a simple but comprehensive condemnation of Mr. Limbaugh. He could have offered his hand of support to a defenseless college student who was only trying to defend her friend. He could so easily have … no he couldn’t.
And that’s because Mr. Romney is, what some people refer to as a “stuffed shirt.” An outfit that contains a body without any real convictions. And that’s why his utter failure, at this moment of challenge, was only made a whole lot worse by the response of another man,
President Barack Obama: “I thought about Malia and Sasha and one of the things that I want them to do as they get older is to engage in issues they care about, including ones that I may not agree with them on. And I don’t want them attacked or called horrible names just because they’re being good citizens.”
What we have learned from this moment of challenge and controversy is that Mr. Romney has failed disastrously. But all is not lost. In the same year that Dr. Martin Luther King’s book of sermons was published, he also wrote his profound “Letter from Birmingham Jail.” And words from that letter could not be even more appropriate for the present hour.
“We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of bad people but for the appalling silence of good people.” And that, I’m afraid, now includes Mitt Romney.
There really isn’t much one can add to this excellent piece, except to ask, what words exactly would you have used? What if that was your wife or daughters in law or your grandchildren? I have a daughter and a granddaughter and I know what I words I would have used. Mr. Romney is well versed in how to fire people, this would have been the perfect opportunity for him to show how good he is in taking a stand, his reluctance to do so, really says a lot about his character or lack thereof.
@Dennis,
We can't be fooled by turn out for the primaries....they aren't crazy about the clowns running, BUT...THEY WILL TURN OUT ON ELECTION DAY...and vote for whoever the GOP candidate is...
OBAMA 2012
Amen, GBMama,...nothing to add.
So, GM- of whom was Obama thinking when he called Palin to apologize for Bill Maher calling her a vile name? Hmmm?
What's that? He never called her? Oh. Well, he must have called out Maher for his language, right? You know, to increase civility, and what not? He didn't? Gee. The way he and you talk about it, you'd think he had some kind of standard.
He does? It's a double standard?
I thought so.
Great post, GM. I hadn't known about the President's comment before this. Thanks for putting it up.
What never ceases to amaze me is how the Right Wing crazies demonize this decent man. Rob in MA (#1.3) prefers to think that this isn't about racism, but when historians look back on this period they will surely conclude that it is. In fact, the opening of the racist floodgates has made it "okay" to renew the attacks on women. Just when you thought we were becoming an enlightened society, all the scum that had been suppressed by societal restraint has now risen to the surface. A lot of angry, hate-filled white males out there, and nowhere more evident recently than the attacks on Susan Fluke.
Hey, Clara: What did you mean yesterday about someone referring to himself in the third person? Was it Romney? I missed that one.
March 8 marks the 101st International Women's Day. The event aims to celebrate the progress of women while pointing out inequalities that still exist.
Happy International Women's Day to all the women in the world, and to the men who support them!
Jack in Portsmouth
I know folks who demonize Barack Obama, and I can tell you, it's a kind of mental illness. Paranoia runs high with them, and, yes, they cling to their guns and their religion.
Uh, Jack?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.tv/browse_thread/thread/2e827b8c47b450af/0ffe94c859f8f1e3?lnk=raot
By the way, Axelrod is appearing on Maher's show tonight.
Also, by the way, I find both comments disgusting.
Life is so much easier when you have one set of standards, that apply to all situations.
You should try it sometime- folks are a lot less likely to call you the H word.
As in hypocrite.
Gingerbread Mama -
Thanks for sharing this. As someone who loves the English language and people who are really good at using it, I have to applaud Martin Bashir for coming up with the term "vainglorious victories" in relation to Romney. Aside from the awesome alliteration delivered so deliciously, it's also (don't stop me, I'm on a roll here!) amazingly accurate:
From dictionary.com:
"Vain-glo-ry (noun):
1. excessive elation or pride over one's own achievements, ability, etc.; boastful vanity.
2. empty pomp or show"
No wonder Mitt Mania is so fraught with frenzy. It's the inspirational integrity.
Okay, I'm done now.....
Good point, NoJoe. WHEN will Saint Barack return his $1,000,000 donation that he recieved from Bill Maher? Apparently Hussein, like most of you lefties, thinks it's OK for a conservative woman to be called nasty names, bu the same names must NEVER be used on a liberal. Once again, you all are HYPOCRITES. Dose it ever get old being a hypocrite?
And, after 60,000,000 dead victims, when will the left STOP it's WAR ON BABIES?
In case Clara doesn't get back here - I'm certain she was referring to Mr. Me First Fairfux, he has a tendency to believe he's more significant then he really is...
PS: I think the nut job from NJ has the 'hots' for ya? She's riding your leg again!
Smack her on the nose with a newspaper, she likes it... she really really likes it! lol
Jack:
This isn't about racism, dammit. This is about hating dark people. Oh, wait.......
"Morning Jack, thank you. I felt that the President's sentiment regarding his daughters needed to be aired, as a parent I feel the same way. He is such a good decent human being and he makes me feel so proud to have him as our President.
It is unfortunate, that so many people, feel so angry towards President Obama, and yes, it is racist. It has been so since he was elected. It even reared its ugly head during the last campaign, especially when Sarah Palin came on the scene. She, as with many on the right, while denying that is their intention, have no problem using dog whistles, they fully know will push the buttons of the angry disadvantaged whites fueling their hatred. This segment of the population, who resent that a black person is better educated and oh my, is now in the WH. are willing to believe any nonsense spewed by Limbaugh and the morally challenged on Fox.
FR:
Sp Romney is comparing the Congressional leaders of the Democratic Party to the hate-mongering gas bag "entertainer" whose vile attacks on young women Romney is too cowardly to denounce? Unbelievable.
Dennis---I saw that more Democrats voted for President Obama in the Ohio primary than Republicans. They just wanted to register their support for the President---how great is that? Note also that the President's organization got him onto the ballot in all states, unlike some of the Republicans.
GBM--thanks for sharing that. I don't get a chance to see Martin Bashir often but when I do he says interesting things. I loved his comment the other night saying that Republicans don't want Mitt Romney like people in Britain don't want Prince Charles!
no joe, no bo, nj
Life is so much easier when you have one set of standards, that apply to all situations.
ONE SET OF STANDARD FOR EVERYONE? And who gets to decide what those "standards" are?
Fiesty,
A "tendency"! Holy s**t! You're a paragon of understatement this morning.
Worse than that. Every time I turn around I have to look before I take a step.
D.W. Liked your #1.19. Very funny. Sometimes the only way to deal with this insanity is humor.
Jack, Feisty was spot on
Bill had 'accidentally' quoted himself in his response. It struck me as typical of his vainglory. (Hey, and I used it in a sentence!)
I've got me a zero tolerance policy on his BS. Trust me, the policy was devised over years of personal experience!
Dennis,
On the subject of turnout, it was surprising to hear that the guy who got the most votes in Tuesday's Ohio primary was Barack Hussein Obama. He got something like 50,000 more votes than Mitt Romney even though Obama was running unopposed. I don't know if that's ever happened for any other incumbent president in the past. It definitely shows where the enthusiasm is with Ohio voters, and it sure ain't with Mittens.
Damage123
Good point, NoJoe. WHEN will Saint Barack return his $1,000,000 donation that he recieved from Bill Maher?
For the 10 billionth time....the $$$ went to a SuperPAC. Damage, all of the R's have been telling us that the candidates don't touch anything at the PAC, so why would you even think the $$$ went to the President? There's nothing fishy going on at those PACs is there???
To all above, thanks for the kind words. JoAnne and SF, Martin Bashir has a wonderful vocabulary, one of many reasons, I try not to miss his show. He truly has a way with words in getting to the nub of a situation. He is a treasure for MSNBC to have ....and to hold.
You know what's really um...vainglorious? Having Greek columns set up behind you while you make a speech...about how great you are.
So Feisty, where exactly will the Sandra Fluke statue be ERECTED? Roselle, Ill?
VermontGirl- Whatever. Axelrod appearing on Bill Maher's show is extreme hypocrisy. Anyone from the administration associating himself with Bill Maher will be proven to be a hypocrite and bullshi**er after the fake outrage they displayed over Limbaugh. Of course, the administration is filled with bullshi**ers so it will be no surprise to those of us with sense.
Maher defended Limbaugh this week. He also defended Hank Williams when he got fired from Monday Night Football for his Obama/Hitler tirade. He certainly doesn't think there should be a double standard.
Damage "whatever"
Wow, you're quick - rather than discuss you just change the subject.
Psst - critical thinking is your friend.
Vermont Girl:
You responded to illustrious Christian, damage:
A prerequisite for critical thinking is an intellect. Poor damaged.
Personally, I found both Limbaugh's and Mahar's comments disgusting.
Pacs from both the left and right are involved. One accepted money from Mahar. The other used money to support Rush. I declare a draw.
Damage, if anyone would recognize and know BS....
GBM -- Some men get it and some men don't have a clue. Romney is the latter.
I can see it now, Clear Channel ends up dropping Rush at the behest of NOW and the Establishment thanks Women for releasing them from captivity.
I can see those Boehner crocodile tears, “Oh thank you NOW!!! Thank you!! Rush was such a despicable man and we can’t THANK YOU ENOUGH!!”
All Republithugs are held captive by fear of some Jabba the Hut twin. SMH. Priceless.
Hahaha. As if Clear Channel dropping Limbaugh would mean he's finished. Sorry. He's waaaay too popular.
I have no doubt he would still be known infamously. The point is that, ironically his fall will be at the hand of women, the same group he denigrates. But it's 'CLEAR' that some kiss the feet at the ALTER of RUSH. SMH.
He's popular with idiots that like to wallow in the mud with him.
Rush isn't going anywhere.
By the way, after 60,000,000 victims dead, when will the left STOP it's War On Babies?
This just in: they aren't babies.
An egg is not a chicken.
A seed is not a tree
A fetus is not a baby.
All Republican politicians will breathe a big sigh of relief if Rush is actually gone at some point. But they will do it behind closed doors because they will be too afraid that he might come back. They'll never say anything publicly against the gas bag. It's pathetic to see these supposed leaders so afraid of a man who does nothing but spew lies and hate on the radio.
Damage - When will you stick to the topic at hand so I don't have to keep reporting your off-topic nonsense?
I never thought I would live to see the day when I'd be grateful to the late Andrew Breitbart for his peculiar brand of "journalism" - but having finally gotten to see the complete unedited footage from the vaults of PBS station WGBH in Boston of then-Harvard Law Review President Barack Obama speaking at the rally in support of Professor Derrick Bell and the issue of diversity in the tenured faculty in 1990, I'm going to suck it up and say thank you, Mr. Breitbart, for digging this up again. I don't know what you think YOU saw or heard in this video - which PBS had apparently shown years ago on "Frontline" - but what I saw was a young man taking a public stand for a principle he believed in, despite the fact that Harvard Law Review presidents were not known to do so at the time. I saw the faces of the students - black, white, Latino and everything in between - who were listening to him intently and applauding his words. Even before the camera pulled back to show him at the microphone, I heard his oh-so-recognizable voice speaking with the same passion and conviction we know today. And I heard Professor Bell acknowledging his support and saying how impressed he was that it was the student, not the professor, who had just delivered such a "mighty address without notes". And I saw and heard a fascinating preview of what the future had in store for us all.
So I'll say it again - thank you, Andrew Breitbart. Without your efforts, this video may have languished in the PBS vaults for another 20 years. I'm so glad you gave me the chance to see it today instead.
Yeah. Nothing much to see there. We've ALWAYS known that Obama prefers to hang out with leftists, anti-American radicals.
JoAnne:
Even in Law School Obama could garner a larger crowd than Romney.
What I saw, JoAnne, was that even 20 years ago, Barack Obama could draw a crowd larger than anything Mitt Romney could HOPE to assemble - even if he were giving out $50's! {dammit Ron, you stole my line! lol}
lol
What a nontroversy! Got keep those masses angry,...the apathy may just lead them to stay home in November!
and to fools like damage,...a principled, unpaid STAND is somehow RADICAL. If only the one brain cell had another to rub up against, eh?
Yeah--what a radical concept Barack Obama was speaking out about----the faculty of the premier law school in the nation being diverse. And the person he was supporting was protesting by.........taking an unpaid leave of absence. And how did he manage to speak without a teleprompter?
Funny thing that the right brings this out this week when what it shows to me is that as a student Barack Obama had more courage to speak out than Romney does today.
JoAnne and Ron:
Yeah, but that's not proof that he went to Harvard. You lefties are all alike. Where's his report cards? The nation's toughest cop has clearly demonstrated that Obumbler/Barry/Obammy's birth certificate is phony. Breitbart has dug up this damning video of Barry speaking in public.
Chew on that lefty liberals while I grab me some ice-cold Sam's, some garlic-butter drenched AK Sockeye, and some filets whilst I peruse the financial pages, searching for yet another fabulous investment that will increase the value of my $37.00 portfolio.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Clara,
The actions of the GOP in this primary, the actions of a Mr. Limbaugh, the actions of Fox news, is alienating the middle and independent voters in this country.
Let me guess...the folks at FOX now think that wanting a female black professor to receive tenure is now a "radical" position, yes?
David Walker: "HAHAHAHAHAHA!"
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Imitation is the sincerest form of flarttery.
Moron.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Santorum: "What a snob!"
Gosh, this low information right wing is so sad.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It also makes you sound like a moron. Huh! Well, now that I think about it. . . .
It also makes you sound like an idiot. Huh! Well, fancy that. . . .
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Jack-off in Ports mouth: Call me an "idiot" if you want, I'm laughing at morons like you and David Walker and the Nasty Redhead all the way to the bank. Living well is the best revenge, and it sucks to be you.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To the Idiot from Albany.
If inhabiting in a double wide with no running water on the wrong side of the tracks is living well, bless your little black ♥
If you think anyone actually believes you're wealthy your crazier then a @!$%# house rat!
Way to easy to play Mr. Howell on the internet... junior!
So stop lying.
'Morning JoAnne, couldn't have said it better. Great post. It is pitiful to read and watch at how desperate the right is for something to latch on to. Most reasonable people, are moving on, things are looking up. And the right looks less attractive. People, in general want to look forward with optimism, doom and gloom gets old real fast. Hope wins over hatred every time.
ahh yes, the Keyboard Warrior strikes 'gold' again!
wonder if he's ever heard of munis? LOL
David Walker
Good grief! David Walker has been possessed by the demonic spirit who calls himself Joe from Albany. Maybe we should get an exorcist for him, if we can find a priest who's not too busy trying to stop women from getting birth control.
If inhabiting in a double wide with no running water on the wrong side of the tracks is living well, bless your little black ♥
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Sorry, Nasty, we are not, and never will be, neighbors in the slums of RoselIe Il.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's the sound of me going to the bank to get some cash to buy today's delicious lunch menu. In your honor, I'm going to buy some popcorn, too.
I guess it just sucks to be you.
This thread is hilarious! ; )
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!
wonder if he's ever heard of munis?
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Clara Belle: It's funny you should mention muni's. At my annual wallet extraction 2011 tax return meetiing with the CPA on Tuesday we discussed reconsidering muni's as a way of escaping the Berry second term tax increases that both of us expect. We agreed that interest rates are too low now to make that strategy worthwhile now.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!
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DCIA: Thanks for the flattery.
Good grief! David Walker has been possessed by the demonic spirit who calls himself Joe from Albany.
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I'm pretty sure DW has said he put me on "ignore".
Maybe it's the same "double secret probation" ignore (Animal House) that the Nasty Redhead uses, where you pretend the person is on "ignore", but, still read every post.
LMAO!!!!
Holy crap dude. Not double, but triple posting?
Are you that desperate for attention?
so, joey,
You admit that sometimes paying SOME tax is better than paying NO tax?
lmao at you!
Albany Joe:
Yes, you are on ignore, but from time to time I check your posts to see whether you haven't sustained another massive head injury that might have reversed your tendency to prevaricate. Nope.
However, on this point, you wrote:
Muni's? We call them buses in Kansas.
YUP!
The idiot from Albany still hasn't figured out how the 'ignore' feature works!
Be careful, no one wants to see you choke on your ketchup sandwich!
Mr. Walker, nobody cares what you do. Ignore. Not ignore. Read others posts. Don't read others posts. You don't need to make this pompous proclamation of "I ignore that person, but sometimes I . . . lade lade da . . . ". If you do not want read what others are saying, then pound the living daylights out of that Ignore button. It will keep you all nicely wrapped up in that little cocoon and stop all the bad thoughts from hitting that tiny brain of yours.
Ive been instructed to leave it all in my Canadian Annuity's even after they mature in 2016. My adviser told over 100 of us at a meeting last week that there is no way to estimate how much this administration will take and from who! Since Im turning 60 this month I have a few years to play with on the back side of another possible 4 years. Im just hoping to see minority leaders in front of Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Reid's names.
So the teabaggers' arguments in this thread consist of trailer insults and fake laughter? If that is all they have left they may as well hang up their spurs. The election is over and they have lost before it has begun.
Damn.
david walker - if you're drenching your sockeye in garlic and butter you are ruining it and the nutritional values of salmon. That's really a waste. That fish gave his life for you, show some respect...some reverence. (those who fish the waters of Alaska or anywhere else understand and can appreciate my post)
Muni's? We call them buses in Kansas.
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DW: You call municipal bonds with federal and state tax free interest payments "buses" in Kansas??
You must live in the weird part of Kansas reserved for those people suffering the most advanced stages of the progressive mental illness of liberalism.
May I suggest you put me on permanent "Ignore" so I don't interrupt your ever-increasing lefty liberal delusions.
Be careful, no one wants to see you choke on your ketchup sandwich!
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Only a low-life from the trailer park slums of Roselle, Il would know about "ketchup sandwiches".
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG, David,
Your post sailed completely over the Idiot from Albany's head! LMAO! He simply doesn't get much of anything, eh?
Yeah, and the Breitbart group are showing us what kind of crowd it was, sorry but just couldn't pass that one up.
Nope!
If the idiot from Albany is not pissing himself when he gets collapsed, he's begging people to put him on ignore...
To say he's confused would be an understatement! lmao@the idoit!
DB Akron
Yeah, DB,what a "radical" group of African-Americans, Latinos, Asians, Democrats, Republicans and Independents, journalists, future lawyers, professors, senators and presidents. Bunch of radicals. /s
so, joey,
You admit that sometimes paying SOME tax is better than paying NO tax?
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Not even close, Clara Belle.
Buying any kind of bonds when rates are very low is a moron move because when the interest rates rise, as they eventually will, the value of your bond drops, causing a capital loss.
It is also a blatant form of mockery. You obviously don't have the intellectual capability to understand the difference, so I'll let you in on a little secret: in this case, you are being mocked, not flattered. And the laughter you hear is not anyone laughing with you, you are being laughed at.
It's funny, someone pokes fun at a posters supposed wealth, and not one, but two right wing posters come on with comments about specific investment strategies that prove they know absolutely nothing about investment strategies.
Rob is an idiot...
I once read that when the when the economy wasn't a talking point then social issues would rise, and when social issues weren't a talking point, conspiracy theories would rise. Well, Fox News really did a head job this week. How can one network get people to believe that a Highly respected Harvard Professor is the Leader of the Black Panthers and Barack Obama was hugged up with him, I hit the ceiling. I hope the Dems wipe the floor with the GOP in November. Not by margins, but by a blow out. I'm sick of it...one of you all have the avatar "DumbFux". That is the spot on... unbelievable!
There are some dumb SOBs in this world... i could sell you a Sleep Number made of gold protected by a Lifelock with a picture of Rush Limbaugh's a$$ and you would buy it.
"...not one, but two right wing posters come on with comments about specific investment strategies that prove they know absolutely nothing about investment strategies."
That is why arguing with them is so much fun! My favorite is when they start babbling about Constitutional Law! They're hilarious!
To say he's confused would be an understatement! lmao@the idoit!
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Q: What kind of "idoit" is so confused she can't even even spell "idiot"??
A: The Nasty Redhead from the trailer park slums of Roselle, Il.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@the the idiot from Albany.....
Monopoly money doesn't count. Like I've told you numerous times before, you couldn't find your azz with an azzmap and an extra pair of hands. If you are indeed wealthy you undoubtedly started out stealing lunch money from smaller kids and most likely progressed to beating little old ladies for their bingo money.
Joe, in all good conscience, I have to advise you to vote for the candidate with the easiest program for the disadvantaged.
I watched Hannity and some Brietbart fellows this morning attempt to distort a 1991 speech given by the President at Harvard in defense of Professor Derrick Bell. The only thing I found radical was their attempt to distort the word radical when applying it to Bell. When words are given over to pejorative meanings alone we have firmly planted argument in the land of fear. The object becomes not to inform but to control. I am proud that my country refused to give Fox News a license to operate in our market as Fox News Canada.
The link below is from PBS … a MSM outlet that vetted this issue in 2008.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/government-elections-politics/the-story-behind-the-obama-law-school-speech-video/
"Vetted this issue"? What are you talking about?
There is video from radical Harvard Prof Ogletree, who flat out said, "We hid this video during the 2008 election!"
How much more obvious can it be, the mainstream media not only refused to address Obama's radical past, they conspired to hide it.
You are proud that Canada squelches dissent and free speech rights...only state run media in Canada. North Korea of North America....
Ideology,
Mr. phinephancy is a true independent. He really does believe in the old adage, "vote for the man, not the party" (He also thought we would have a woman president before having a black president, because of the way this country is.) He cannot find ANYTHING radical in this. His opinion goes back to the fact it is hard for many to accept a black as president rather than a woman.
Now, before everyone accuses me or my husband for race baiting, please note, we live in the south and we see this type of thing every day. And FYI, neither of us have decided who to vote for in November, but we do dislike the type of politics that the right (Fox) is playing. All I know is it drives us away from the GOP with talk and actions like Hannity provided last night.
Oh, and Bob in Virginia, people like you also drive voters away from your side.
So Bob, a black Prof. stands up for Civil Rights and he is thereby a radical ... now that is radical thinking on your part Bobsy. Your type of thinking would have condemned the leaders of your Revolution.
Bob,
LIES!!!! Only state run media in Canada?? Not likely...
The Canadian television broadcasting industry is split between public and private ownership. Canada currently has 130 originating television stations, which broadcast on 1,456 transmitters across the country, on both the VHF and UHF bands.
In addition to the public Canadian Broadcasting Corporation/Société Radio-Canada, which operates both English and French television networks, there are four major private TV networks. CTV and Global broadcast in English, and are available throughout the country. TVA and V broadcast in French and are available over the air only in Quebec (and some communities in Ontario and New Brunswick which are near the Quebec border), although TVA is available across Canada on cable. Radio-Canada (the French division of the CBC), TVA and V function in the particular cultural context of Quebec television. Most network stations are owned and operated by the networks themselves, although all networks have some affiliates with different ownership.
In addition, Aboriginal Peoples Television Network, a service devoted mainly to programming from the First Nations, is considered a network by the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, although the network airs terrestrially only in the three Canadian territories, and is available only on cable in most of Canada.
There are, as well, a number of smaller television systems:
Canada is a Capitalist Country! Not Socialist, or Communist!
Spot on, Ideology.
Bob, here's a story for you. Back in 1952, Mr. phinephany's father was in the Marines stationed in Green Cove Springs, Florida (base isn't there anymore, it was during WWII and Korea). His buddy decided to go visit with Mr. phinephany's dad, his family in northern Ohio. Since they drove, it took a few days (no interstates then). They could not find places they could eat or stay the night together. Why? His buddy was black. Was the hubby's dad a radical? No. He didn't even think about the color of a man's skin. Later, he was proud to March with Dr. King and would have been proud to have a president to stand up for his professor.
Bob, people like you and those like you in your party, make it darn near impossible to support your side.
Sorry, one correction to the story - it was 1950, not 1952.
Bob in VA: "There is video from radical Harvard Prof Ogletree, who flat out said, "We hid this video during the 2008 election!"
PBs .org: "But there's nothing new about the clip or Obama's role in the controversy at Harvard Law School. In 2008, as a part of our quadrennial election special The Choice 2008, FRONTLINE ran the same footage of the speech as a part of an exploration of Obama's time at Harvard Law School, where he graduated in 1991. It's been online at our site and on YouTube since then. You can see that part of the film below......In light of today's controversy, and Breitbart.com editors' claims that the footage had been edited, we pulled the full archived tape. It includes not just Obama's speech, but other footage from the rally and portions of Derrick Bell's speech. You can watch it in full below.....And while there does appear to be editing in the footage available, that was almost certainly done in 1990. The Ten O'Clock News practice was to store completed segments as aired along with any relevant additional footage that might be useful in the future."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/government-elections-politics/the-story-behind-the-obama-law-school-speech-video/
By the way, Bob, you forgot to tell us which mainstream media outlet Professor Ogletree worked for in 2008. If there's a media conspiracy here, we deserve to know all the details......
Freedom of Speech. Yes our two countries do differ on that issue. We have laws about Hate Speech, laws that say you cannot demean a race or religion other than your own and attempt to make others second class citizens or worse. We consider that to be equal to shouting fire in a crowded room when there is none. We can stand on a soapbox and call our politicians @!$%#s with impunity and we do so as often as Americans.
As to Fox News Canada, it was seen as a propaganda tool and not a news outlet which it tried to sell itself as and was refused on those grounds.
"Meanwhile, the RNC is out with a document hit on David Axelrod’s criticism of Mitt Romney that he didn’t stand up to Rush Limbaugh’s attack on that female Georgetown Law student"
Total hypocrite alert: Axelrod is scheduled to soon appear on Bill Maher's show, where they both can have a good laugh when Maher again calls Gov Palin a "cun t"...
I was surprised, on Super Tuesday, to hear Massachusetts referred to as Romney's "home state." I was like, where does Romney actually live, anyway? I knew he grew up in Michigan, owns a house in NH (because he likes lakes) and a 12 million dollar house in California (which got expanded to accommodate all his grandchildren.)
Then I saw he won the MA primary with 75% of the vote, and I thought, oh, wow, no wonder the South doesn't like him. Romney is John Kerry with an (R) after his name.
Actually, Amy, for the last 5 years Romney has lived on the campaign trail as he runs for President. So vexing to have to do the laundry in a hotel washing machine.
well newt took Georgia....he called it his home state....but he is actually from Pennsylvania and lives in Virgina....go figure...no wonder why people dont like him
well, I was pretty sure I had heard that his 'legal' residence was one of his son's basement. He votes from THAT district.
Unemployment has been tough for him. Being Homeless is NO joking matter for Mittens. Oh wait, he DID joke about his employment status. $37K per day? Yeah,...hard to establish residency on that pittance.
Clara--sorry to correct you but it is an average of $57,000 per day income that Mitt has to scrape by on. And he did have to go out and buy all those jeans to wear on the campaing trail so he looks like a "regular" guy.
And I wonder where are the rest of his income tax returns? He has released only 2010 and a draft of 2011. Inquiring minds want to know why not the rest, as every other candidate has done?
A little here, a little there, a little everywhere. Kind of like McCain and his wife, so many places, so little time and might not even remember just how many homes they really have.
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Why isn’t this GOP race over?
It's a question I was saving for your next Inside The Boiler Room segment, but let me frame the question a little differently...
I past years, with victories in Ohio and Michigan and Florida, it feels like this would be a done deal already. Mitt Romney would be the nominee, the remaining contests would be mere formality and we'd be pivoting towards the general election already. So, why haven't we?
Is it because of...
A. ...the new rules in the primaries where delegates are being apportioned based on the primary results?
B. ...the idea that rank-and-file, dyed-in-the-wool Conservatives just don't like Mitt Romney?
C. ...the candidates being propped up by SuperPACs who still have money to spend while the campaigns themselves don't?
D. ...all of the above?
Noid, when did the 2008 Democratic Primaries end and how was the eventual candidate determined?
I'll help you..
June 2008.
Super Delegates eventually determined the Democratic Candidate because neither Obama or Clinton had enough delegates to secure the nomination.
In the end the Democratic Elite are the ones that chose Obama in June of 2008 and turmed their back on the Clintons.
Yet day after day after day here at First Read you Libs go on and on aond on about this Primary not being decided in MARCH.
ONE MORE TIME for the short bus riders...
Clinton & Obama did NOT dismember each other in the process...
Sheesh - do you have to work at being so stupid?
Ah WCA, but the difference was there was enthusiasm for both candidates. The Republicans have reluctant, tepid enthusiasm for Romney, and limited, though passionate, enthusiasm for Santorum and/or Gingrich. The passion on the right is to vote out the President. My fear, even as an independent, that when the passion is inspired by an "Anybody but that guy" mentality, we will end up with someone much, much worse.
Really?
...because some within the Romney campaign are pretty clear that it's over. Why else one of his campaign advisors say it would take an "act of God" to derail his nomination?
Feisty,
Pretty sure it's a natural occurrence. lol
You people are idiots.
WCA-
Both Obama and Clinton also had strong organizations, were on the ballot almost everywhere, and had the grass-roots support to compete in the presidential elections.
Santorum and Gingrich weren't even on the ballot in Virginia........
You people?
Yeah, you people.
Watch it, WCA. Somewhere along the line, liberals decided that the innocuous term "you people" is a racial slur. Well, actually only if conservatives use it (go figure) and have added it to their list of race cards that they pull out when they have no other defense against their ridiculous BS.
YOU PEOPLE are hypocrites and liars.
Sure, let's generalize an entire group as hypocrites and liars because you have no claim as to how say...I am a hypocrite and a liar?
Watch it, Damage, you're being a jackass—again. Not too sure about you being a racist, but I can, with confidence, label you a 'bigot'.
Let's look at it this way,
The 2012 Republican primary would be like the 2008 Democratic primary, if Hillary Clinton had been crammed down our throats by the well-oiled Clinton machine and their establishment donors. Then, us Obama supporters would have been as angry as the conservative Republicans. Right?
http://articles.cnn.com/2008-02-14/politics/clinton.obama_1_obama-spokesman-bill-burton-ohio-and-texas-primaries-president-clinton?_s=PM:POLITICS
http://articles.cnn.com/2008-02-14/politics/clinton.obama_1_obama-spokesman-bill-burton-ohio-and-texas-primaries-president-clinton?_s=PM:POLITICS
http://articles.cnn.com/2008-02-14/politics/clinton.obama_1_obama-spokesman-bill-burton-ohio-and-texas-primaries-president-clinton?_s=PM:POLITICS
Proven wrong again Feisty
There should be three different links. Need some coffee I guess.
Answer: Because they are all lame, and the best they can come up with is Romneycare, and they reluctantly will back him even though we all know he is not qualified or deserving of the office.
Can the GOP please get a candidate I can consider voting for (i.e. one with a brain)?
Thanks.
Ruken ----They had one in Huntsman----Not hateful enough for the hard core.
Honestly, that dude bailed out so early (like T. Pawl) that I had no idea what his agenda even was.
It appears the days of compromising moderates are at an end.
"So why isn’t this race over? One possible answer: He’s getting penalized in the media and among Republicans for the competition he’s facing"
Another possible answer: the liberal media is as usual acting as Obama water carrier. Making it sound as though the GOP is torn apart, irreparably.
I have an honest question here - for as long as I've been posting here, all I've ever heard is that Fox News Channel has a bigger audience and better ratings than all the so-called liberal media stations put together and that Rush Limbaugh and other conservative talk show hosts have more listeners in one day than Air America did in the whole six years it was on the air - which for all I know is actually true. So then how does the "liberal media" keep managing to control the message as you claim? I've never been able to figure this one out - can anyone else explain it?
Manipulation is a strong argument. Here is an easy one, 4 years ago Fox was shouting from the rafters that Presidents had zero control over the price of oil and now they are shouting that they do. The wee minded of short memory walk lockstep shouting the new line and believing it.
JoAnne, funny, eh? It's just one of those crazy FAUX talking points, they can't get enough of!
ideology, I saw those clips fro 4 years ago, last night...funny stuff!
Interesting article on how Roger Ailes manipulates the uniformed FAUX viewers!
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-roger-ailes-built-the-fox-news-fear-factory-20110525
JoAnne - very good point. I had never thought about that!
Take a read of 'What Liberal Media: The Truth About Bias and the News' by Eric Alterman. It is a little dated (2003), but just as true today, as it was then. i.e. The 'liberal media' is, as usual, a right wing talking point with no basis in reality.
I am a conservative, my answer to that question is: Because there isn't a decent candidate!
Mhm.
I'm socially "liberal" (for lack of a better term) but politically conservative. However, I cannot vote for any of the current GOP candidates, or the party in general at the moment since the TP has hijacked it.
Ruken - you are just like my husband - very conservative fiscally, but socially progressive. This whole political season has just torn him up to see what has happened to his Republican Party (35 years - straight ticket). He's finally switching to Independent.
@Katheryn,
My husband too, still a registered Republican (since he was18) but he wouldn't vote for ANY of these CLOWNS!!
Ha! Jo-An - just something about those democratic women!
LOL...Must be!!
Super Tuesday: 65% of the available delegates won by one man. Nearly double the count of the other three combined. The cup is 2/3 full, not 1/3 empty.
Willard just doesn't get it. People don't like him. We don't elect someone to be our president that we don't like. It is as simple as that.
We did last time so your post is silly.
Obama is STILL "WELL LIKED", check the facts!
OBAMA 2012
Because Republicans do not care about wealth of the candidate or the war chest or negative adds. Rebublicans care about the man himself. What he has done, what he believes and his passions. Conservative do not care about perception but about whats decent and good for the country. We are not people pleasers and are not out to get Peace Prizes we do not deserve.
That is why it does not matter the money the fools give to Obamma for his campain. We will not be swayed. A person who knows himself and what he believes will not be swayed by this man. If you want to do what is best for the country you will not vote for Mr Obamma. He is finally on record and it is dismal. Do not be sheep. Stand up and do whats right for a change. Yes I am talking to you liberals, I realize the folly in this but I have to try.
So, I guess all that Republicans care about is a man who bought companies on the cheap, sent their jobs overseas if he kept the company afloat at all, killed companies by saddling them with enormous debt- taken as 'profits' and stuffed into off shore bank accounts to avoid paying American taxes- then sending any pension liabilities to the US Government so the workers receive 30% what they'd worked years for, as American taxpayers foot the bill.
I guess that's the credibility Republicans cherish in their presidential candidate. Once again:
Republicans do not have a viable, credible candidate for President. It's a fact!
rukidding47
Your post makes me sad because you sound like a nice person. You sound like you want a President you can trust, who represents the values you believe in. I'm here to tell you, none of the Republicans running would do anything in office beside keep taxes low for the wealthiest, bust unions, and kick the elderly and sick off Medicaid. If those are things you want to see, by all means, pick a Republican and support him, but I'm not with you there, and never will be.
Dave, why don't you list the companies that Bain acquired that no longer exist along with the one's sent overseas? The truth is that most of the companies were on the verge of bankruptcy but survived due to Bain.
Got a better idea. You show us how many companies Bain bought with their own money, not borrowed money from South Americans. Bain was a sham from the beginning, using borrowed money to buy, then close businesses that put Americans out of work, borrow more money to overburden those companies with debt that didn't need or want a takeover in the first place, then shove it to the people who made the companies valuable- all to be able to place 10 thousand dollar bets, take on a absurd view that "corporations are people", and own several luxury homes dotting the country.
Bottom line- it wasn't a company saving enterprise, it was a way to get rich and to screw America and Americans. Romney might be proud of his dubious 'accomplishments' but Americans know better. His well deserved negatives far exceed his positive polling numbers and he is- here it goes again- not a viable or electable candidate for President. It's a fact!
Amy Thanks I try.
"Republicans running would do anything in office beside keep taxes low for the wealthiest, bust unions, and kick the elderly and sick off Medicaid"
Taxes low yes. Good for everyone rich and poor.
Bust unions, I am not opposed to that either. Salaries and benefits break companies and price them selfs out of business.
The elderly even you can't believe that. Thats just talking points.
They will also kill this mandated health care. Great.
Keep the first ammendment. Great.
go by constittional law. Great.
I see no down side except on the horse path we are on now.
R47- Your ideas are from Ron Paul. Why is he still running? Those ideas are getting him 5-10% of the Republican primary and caucus vote! Those ideas, and Paul's percentage of the vote should show you how out of touch those ideas are even in the right wing! And if one talks about the 10% of independents who actually decide the November elections, those ideas are even less popular. Ron Paul should drop out of the race.
Most want to see a balanced approach with an increase in taxes for the people making more than 1 million a year, 'small business owner' or not, most see Unions as good for the country, or at least acknowledge the benefits like vacation, holiday pay and such were fought for first by them, enjoyed now by us. Most see companies as having too much influence in America, especially after the Citizens United decision. In fact, everyone running on the GOP side for President have at one time or another themselves grumbled about the SuperPAC money being used against them- by each other!
There's nearly a 50% divide in the country with the Affordable Care Act- or Obamacare for those less intelligent. I keep hearing about repealing this health care law, but never hear anything approaching answers by them for those who cannot afford the least of coverage, and what would come after a repeal! Aren't they Americans, too? Doesn't the Good Book say to help those who can't help themselves? How hypocritical is that who want to deny those in need but say they're religious and/or Christian? As is said, you can't have two heavens!
The reality of all this is moot. Obama inevitably will win, everything stays in place, and there is quite a possibility of the House being overtaken by Democrats. Where is your jobs bill Mr. Boehner? People know what's going on!
RU47, the problem is, we "need taxes" to keep our country going...no one likes to pay them, but they are a necessary evil. Bush gave tax cuts for ALL, claiming that tax cuts for the wealthy, would benefit the middle class, by them creating jobs. It hasn't happened! Obama is proposing raising taxes on the wealthiest, not everyone.
http://inequality.org/income-inequality/
Read Paul Ryan's plan,
You may not like unions, but do you remember life BEFORE them? Unfair wages, poor work conditions, no limits on working hours, etc...
And, I like clean water...the republicans have the same old plan:
Cut taxes and deregulate! It didn't work for BEFORE, so why will it work NOW??
rukidding47
Maine elected a Tea Party governor and Republican legislature in 2010, and less than a year later they were trying to remove 65,000 elderly, sick and low income people from Medicaid. At the same time, they reduced taxes for the wealthiest Mainers.
I was listening to a radio program this weekend on what is happening in Trenton, NJ. The Tea Party NJ governor has cut spending and lowered taxes - with the reult that one third of the police force have been laid off in Trenton, leading to a rise in crime.
There is a point of diminishing return, where if you cut taxes and reduce spending to far, you have higher crime and more people showing up at emergency rooms, because they don't get routine care, leading to higher costs. Republicans do not seem to recognize this reality.
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/459/what-kind-of-country
@Amy,
And, people are calling on Chris Christie to run for president...BARF...not only are ALL his policies BS, he is mean, bully!
Just when I ask myself, "could these GOP clowns have picked any bigger losers?" I REMEMBER Chis Christie! yuckkkkkkkk
I really like all the GOP candidates. We are currently enjoying an embarrassment of riches.
Any of the GOP candidates will make an excellent President, and will be immeasurably better than the current empty suit now occupying our White House. So what if it takes till July to finally select the best of the best?? None of us are going anywhere, especially with Obama in charge.
Let the suspense build. Let the anticipation make you quiver with excitement. Watch Obama sweat.
Greatest show on earth. Every four years, and it's free.
Obama shelved in 2012.
I'd agree,
You are enjoying an embarrassment....
LOL
OBAMA 2012
Oh, SNAP,
good one Jo-An!
Really? Do you honestly think Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum would make an excellent president, or that either would have a snowball's chance of beating Obama in November??
Clarabelle- Really sweetcheeks. "Oh Snap" is sooo 2004. You can't find any other 8th grade signal of approval?
I rest my case.
Damage, just can't help himself!
Why isn't this GOP race over! What a STUPID QUESTION!!!
Short & Accurate Answer: JUST LOOK @ WHAT THE CORRUPT CORPORATE SUPERPAC gave us to vote on!!
ENOUGH SAID, FROM THE UNFAITHFUL REPUBLICANS who want the corporates to give back to the American People, they've stolen long enough! ITS' TIME FOR CHANGE, AND THAT TIME IS NOW! NOT LATER, BUT RIGHT NOW!!!
So, for those of you keeping score at home...
President Obama hugged "radical" professor at Harvard 20 years ago = OUTRAGE!!!
President Bush kisses Saudi king who makes it illegal to openly worship as a Christian = Crickets
WRONG Pizza Boy. I thought Bush was stupid to kiss up to that backwards-ass Saudi then and I still do. Just like I hate it that our current president has been friends with all manner of America-haters all his life.
Da Noid:
You should post more on events like these, even some made up.
Because I have a strong feeling Damage123 didn't even know what you were talking about.
Why isn't the GOP race over yet? Why, it is because the GOP does not have a person that can bring the American people together. The only likely person by the news media is Romney. And, Romney only will represents the very rich and here in America that is only 1% of all Americans but the 1% have the money to fix most elections.
rukidding47:.....nope....serious as a heart attack....this fool supports "our" President 100% and will gladly vote for him again in November. As the rest of us sheep would say ...... go O baaahhhhh ma 2012
:)
Awesome!
"Awesome!"....
LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!
Woah, Damage. Don't get too excited.
Damage---should not you be out adopting some feutuses?
@charles, that's FUNNY!!
@Georwell, Damage feels superior when he pick on girls!
its over for sanitarium and newtie....newt will get DESTROYED in a general election against Obama (old school GOP HATE HIM) and sanitarium is too far something....not going to happen...plus newt and his wife are not only too ugly to be POTUS...they would get NO RESPECT from any leader...its Obama for the win...PERIOD!!!
Obama 2012!!!!
First Read, you may be over-thinking the question of why Romney hasn't sealed the deal. I thought he was the inevitable nominee, too. Money, organization, establishment support, etc. But since that time the questions about his integrity have reached (or at least neared) a critical mass.
For me, the most notable evidence of this was when someone told a Romney-integrity joke at CPAC, and my realization that everyone there most likely got the joke without explanation. How can that be your party's nominee?
True or not, Chuck? Trustworthiness is the single most important attribute for a presidential candidate.
Why isn't this GOP race over? One word: religion.
You got that right. It is God's amusing little game (I call it a sick little joke) for allowing candidates into the race that nag Him day and night for advice, support, a pat on the back over something He could care less about.
Tomas Jefferson is rolling in his tomb
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE PEOPLE
The fact that so much of our political debate is dedicated to this topic is scary. Can we say Spanish Inquisition!
Romney will limp to the finish line, bloodied and battered. It won't matter,as he will lose in November. Mitt has been pushed so far to the right by the loons in this primary that he'll never be able to move to the center for the general. I got to know the real Mitt when he was governor of Massachusetts. I sat in on budget meetings he presided over. He's really a moderate, financially center right, socially liberal. Unfortunately, for him to get the nomination he's been forced to pander to the uneducated goobers who make up the base. He hasn't been allowed to show the public who he really is.
It's not that he won't try - it's that the Obama machine will then have hundreds of hours of footage where he says one thing on Monday, another on Tuesday, back again on Wednesday and then wraps it with a joint statement of misinformation on Thursday. (he can't be expected to campaign 7 days a week, so the rest of the time he'll just avoid doing interviews and focus on the remodel in La Jolla).
UNELECTABLE is he.
The real problem with Romney is that he comes across as a robot, reminds me a little of tricky Dick Nixon.-----Has no core values----none that he isn t willing to change to fit his audience, anyway. Then compound that with all this flag waving,blah,blah,blah,then mingles some of his millions with Mafia and Drug Lords in the Caymans and Switzerland. There just is no there , there.
Romney reminds me of Max Headroom!
Max Headroom was WAY cooooooler!
I believe howdy-doody is actually directly related to romney.. same plastic smile, plastic hair, phony smile, and a hand up his back moving his mouth...
He's an elitist who would cater solely to the elite puppeteers who run him... bet on it.
It is not over because the Republican party is not able to find anyone in their ranks that stands out as a good Presidential candidate. The whole Republican primary is a comedy bar none. I watch the news at night or watch the debates and laugh and laugh and laugh. So if none of the four remaining fools are able to get a majority of the votes that tells us none of them are qualified. So if none of them are qualified why won't the Republican Party look deeper and harder for a worthy candidate befor they lose the election in November.