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President Barack Obama used his bully pulpit on Tuesday to send a tough rejoinder to those Republicans who question his national security strategy: "They're not commander in chief."
The president took several opportunities to snipe at his would-be GOP challengers in a press conference scheduled the same day as Super Tuesday, a day when a number of delegates are at stake and could move the battle for the nomination toward a conclusion.
Obama most aggressively rebuffed criticism in recent days by the Republican hopefuls of his handling of the situations in Iran and Syria. Three of the GOP candidates made that criticism during speeches Tuesday to AIPAC, the powerful pro-Israel advocacy group.
"Now, what's said on the campaign trail -- you know, those folks don't have a lot of responsibilities. They're not commander in chief," Obama said.
Super Tuesday to set the tone for remainder of GOP race
"And when I see the casualness with which some of these folks talk about war, I'm reminded of the costs involved in war; I'm reminded of the decision that I have to make ... This is not a game. And there's nothing casual about it," he added.
It was a moment that seemed intended to remind voters of the gravity of the presidency, especially in contrast with some of the more fickle elements of the campaign trail.
"Typically, it's not the folks who are popping off who pay the price," Obama said of politically motivated saber-rattling, especially toward Iran. "It's these incredible men and women in uniform and their families who pay the price."
That hasn't stopped Republicans from piling on Obama, though.
"Hope is not a foreign policy. The only thing respected by thugs and tyrants is our resolve, backed by our power and our readiness to use it," Romney told attendees of AIPAC.
Asked how he would respond to the former Massachusetts governor's criticism of his foreign policy criticism, Obama had a short reply.
"Good luck tonight!" he said with a grin. "Really!"
With a chuckle, President Barack Obama wishes GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney "good luck," impying he's ready for Romney's challenge.
There were other notable remarks by Obama during Tuesday's news conference, including those about women voters and Latinos -- two crucial voting blocs in November.
The president reaffirmed his commitment to comprehensive immigration reform, but bemoaned increased Republican opposition to any plan that would give illegal immigrants a pathway to citizenship -- a shift from the policy of President George W. Bush, Obama noted.
"We didn't get it done," Obama said of his 2008 promise of immigration reform, a failure that has disappointed a number of Latinos. "And the reason we haven't gotten it done is because what used to be a bipartisan agreement that we should fix this ended up becoming a partisan issue."
But he suggested that a shift in Republican thinking -- or, at least, a shift in their representation in Congress -- would be needed to accomplish reforms.
"Depending on how Congress turns out, we'll see how many Republican votes we need to get it done," he said.
The president ducked a question about whether he agrees with a statement made previously by Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, that Republicans are waging a war on women.
"Women are going to make up their own mind in this election about who is advancing the issues that they care most deeply about," Obama said. "And I believe that Democrats have a better story to tell to women about how we're going to solidify the middle class and grow this economy, make sure everybody got -- has a fair shot, everybody's doing their fair share, and we got a fair set of rules of the road that everybody has to follow."
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Nor will they never be CIC!
Easy to bang the drums of war from the cheap seats!
America has had enough of the 'chicken hawks'!
Amen, Feisty, Amen!
Too bad the War Hawks aren't as concerned about Attack spending as they are about Domestic spending, eh?
Four more years in a landslide! Obama/Biden 2012
Oh, and women HAVE made up their minds,...it's what's causing the advertisers to literally leave the sinking Limbaugh Titantic!
Obama on GOP challengers:
'They're not commander in chief', not yet.
Not until January 2013.
NOBAMA2012, the End of an ERROR
A vote for Romney is a vote for war. Romney is another empty suit like W. Bush. The Pentagon will lie to him and push him around until we end up in a war with Iran. For those that know nothing about the Iraq-Iran war in the 80s. The Iraqis laid land mines and unarmed Iranians walked through them blowing themselves up. If you thought Iraq and Afghanistan were bad, wait until you try to fight a war in Iran.
I can't wait for the debates. no republican will be able to hold a candle to the president. Republican candidates have managed to offend the entire electorate other than white republican men. This is the most curious primary I have yet seen. Once republicans decide to play to their real base, not the tea party, and once they do something to court the independents, they may stop getting their butts handed to them in presidential elections.
Just to lighten up the day ... Jim Morin: Mannish GOP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFjJJSvibC0
War with Iran will come no matter who is in the White house. Obama knows this which why he is content to let the Iranians stall. They aren't simply going to go away because you don't like their politics. Force is the only thing that stop them from developing a nuclear weapon.
Thanks for putting the clowns in their place President Obama.
It's so polarized, that the Republican candidates have to say the opposite of what Obama says no matter whether it makes sense or not.
Actually, the Pentagon and the intelligence agencies are the ones that see little to no credible threat from Iran at this point or in the near future. Obama would be a fool to ignore people who don't have a political agenda, as is true of both of these.
Down with the GOP chicken hawks!!!
Afraid of Limpballs but willing to bomb Iran.....................
Israel will take out Iran. They will tell us when, but not get our permission.
ideolog- Thanks for the link, put a smile on my face!
Wayne-1656909 - The tea party isn't really the issue. They are only looking for less taxes and smaller government. The Republicans biggest problem are the Christian conservatives. This groups "values" are pretty much at odds with everyone else be they moderate Republicans, Independents or Democrats. These folks seem to be living in an episode of Leave it Beaver. If the Republican candidate is forced to pander to this group they risk alienating the rest of the country.
Skup - I agree. This is a train that's gonna run it's course,no matter who is the conductor. A lot of controls are in the hands of the Iranians and the Israelis. But I'm still praying we stay out of it.
Alrighttty then....Any questions?
What a petty man he is. First, what's with the news conference on Super Tuesday? He couldn't do it yesterday or this Thursday? Second, was this a news conference or a campaign event? What's with the calling out of the other people running for the Republican nomination? Third, why does he have to bring his children into every speech he makes? Are his kids off limits except when he drags them into every single issue? Overall, a waste of a news conference done by a small man.
An Iranian nuclear bomb is the same story as the WMDs in Iraq and the Cold War domino effect in Vietnam. Politicians looking for an excuse to go to war due to unfounded fears. Anything to get the gullible masses behind them and to justify going to war. It is naive to think we can just bomb Iranian facilities without there being any repercussions from Russia and/or China and the potential for the Strait of Hormus to be closed. The only way to prevent the closing of the Strait would be to occupy Iranian soil, which will be a death sentence to any Western soldiers stationed there. If we try to do in Iran what we did in Iraq, by removing the leadership, then you will see even more insurgencies then happened in Iraq.
Osama bin Laden might be dead, but as long as Republicans and other hawkish people buy into this warmongering then ultimately bin Laden will win as the US will bankrupt itself. We don't have money for Social Security and Medicare, but we have money to keep buying weapons and fighting wars? North Korea developed a nuclear bomb and South Korea and everyone else is still around. These pariah states aren't developing these weapons for offensive capabilities, but for defensive reasons as a deterrent from Western nations invading them. Can you blame them? Afghanistan, Iraq and to a lesser degree Libya.
Obama is within his rights to steal the limelight from the Republicans today. Relax, I'm sure Romney will get plenty of press today.
It was a news presser, something that Republicans candidates haven't done.
He gets to call out the opposition its an election year. Why do Republicans not like it when Democrats fight back.
His children are up and coming soon to be women. They need to express their opinions and not be silenced like Limbaugh was trying to do.
It was a great news conference by a great man.
Greg in New York - Does that mean you think the sanctions President Obama is seeking against the Iranians are unfounded?
I watched President Obama's press conference; terrific; interesting foreign policy questions and answers, too. When one reporter asked if he had something to say to Mitt Romney regarding Romney's statement that "hope is not a foreign policy" and President Obama is the most "feckless" president since Carter--that big Obama smile followed by "good luck tonight" said it all!
The President is right on! They aren't the Commander in Chief and they are able to just spout out a bunch of trash when they aren't the ones that will be engaged in the war. War is a last resort. This President seems to know this, Thank God and here's to another 4 years of an empathetic, compassionate man who seems to care more about people than money. Romney, Santorum, Newt...narcissists, greedy narcissists that would be willing in a heartbeat to start another war...sad. We lost 4000+ to a war based on lies. These are human lives we are talking about.
Eric-913730 - I wonder why they decided to have him give the prepared speech with a TelePrompter. He looked kinda silly with his head bobbing up and down to read the speech prepared for him on the podium.
Explain the ineptness.
Q22--well, for one thing, yesterday President Obama was busy meeting with and entertaining Israel's PM Netanyahu; Sunday the right would have complained that it was Sunday; Saturday he spoke at the AIPAC; Friday conservatives would have whined that it was "news dump" day......
Sanctions on Iran are to appease the US hawks and Israel. If the sanctions weren't being put into place then they would be clamouring for war. As it is, they already want war instead of giving sanctions and diplomacy an opportunity.
"We don't presently have a CIC..."
Osama bin Laden and Kaddhafi would disagree.
Just like Obama was when he was calling out Bush about Guantanamo and pledging that he would close it in his first year. Candidates are allowed to criticize the President's policies and to suggest that they are not serious about the possible consequences is supremely arrogant. Or are you suggesting that Obama wasn't serious about Guantanamo?
Greg in New York - So it is your position that the President placed unfounded sanctions on a foreign country simply to appease the "US hawks" and that the Iranians are not enriching uranium for a weapon but simply wish to have a nuclear power plant?
Skup,
Same reason Republican's use them constantly. You do know we are in the 21st century?
Nice try Skup,
Obama didn't make a speech. He took live questions, there was no teleprompter.
Sorry to say but Romney and Santorum are both using teleprompters.
And what kind of a CIC is Obama?
What kind of CIC takes a year to come up with a plan as losses doubled in Afghanistan?
What kind of CIC announces a "we quit" date ... sustains losses at 5-6 times the monthly rate as Bush ... all for a place his he simply going to walk away from?
What kind of CIC apologizes for a innocent mistake as our allies walk up behind our unarmed officers and shoot them in the back of the head?
What kind of CIC builds $750,000 soccer fields for these murders as he plans on doubling / tripling health benefits to servicemen who lost legs fighting the "soccer player."
What kind of CIC do we have when our ally says they will side with Pakistan against us if it comes to a conflict?
What kind of CIC cannot even negotiate a troop presence, as the military necessitated?
So what has Obama accomplished as CIC in 3 years with regards to Iran? Didn't Obama vow that he would not allow Iran to get the bomb - that we cannot be talking about this 3 years later ..... and 3 years later he is still talking about it?
Sanctions? Why not meaningless sanctions 3 years ago? Does anyone in the administration have any knowledge of history, of rogue / terrorist states?
Most importantly, does anyone in the world respect Obama other than the drones working so feveriously defending him?
Name a country.
@beachbum12
the only inept thing about obama is that he is at best just right of center and has kept most of the failed policies from the previous administration.
The telepromter gibe is so lame. Name me one politician, newscaster, pundit, or even weatherman - past or present that doesn't/hasn't used a telepromter. Go back to your birther brothers.
I love how you combine unfounded with sanctions. I said unfounded fears as in the fear that Iran will get a nuclear bomb and will use it offensively. That is unfounded. It is known that Iran in enriching uranium. Nobody denies this. There are some concerns that it might be used to create nuclear weapons. The sanctions are being applied to appease the hawks and Israel. They are also an attempt to divert Iran away from the potential of developing a nuclear weapon. If the sanctions were not put into place and nothing was done, then the hawks would claim that Obama is appeasing the Iranians. There are many hawks that have already written off the sanctions and believe that war is inevitable. I am guessing you are one of those hawks since you think it is a foregone conclusion that there will be a war with Iran. If that is the case then I hope you are willing to serve your country in a time or war and if you are too old to serve then I hope you volunteer your children to the nation.
The President makes a valid point. Furthermore, saber-rattling as a campaigning technique is inappropriate and dangerous. For both sides.
That being said, I was somewhat surprised at the reaction yesterday to Mr. McCain's Syrian bombing suggestion. He was not proposing an all out war, this would be an air strike to provide some protection for certain, specified rebel positions. I see no difference, other than partisan bickering, between this and what we did in Libya. The only difference between Syria and Libya I can discern is that K/Q/Gdaffy's connection with the West was much more tenuous and hostile than Assad's. But both leader's past and present actions against their own people are equally hideous. I would like to hear the President's take on how he decides what foreign conflicts he will promote being involved in. Why protect Libyan rebels and not Syrian rebels?
Libya....Syria......Israel......Iran.......
We seem to be entering some dangerous waters here and by coincidence or design being so close to a presidential election the waters become extra sharky. A war with Iran would be an atrocious, unimaginable nightmare. The Soviet Union had a huge nuclear arsenal at its disposal. I realize the USSR and Iran are pretty much apples and oranges, but we found a way to contain the Soviets and we must find a way to contain the Iranians without resorting to war.
Mr. Obama, as you say the other guys are not the CIC, you are. I don't want to hear what you think of their comments. I want to hear your plan.
I loved his response. It was a brilliant bit of rhetoric - highlighting the seriousness of his job while contrasting it with the utter silliness of his foes battling for the Republican nomination.
To Republicans it is a game: it's someone else's sons/daughter, husbands/wives to go to war.
Obama is a great CIC.
Obama put in a surge that was successful in Afghanistan. Bush took his eye off the ball, and Obama got Bin Laden.
Every President winding down a war has an "out date". Besides you thing the enemy isn't looking with their binoculars at the people leaving if you don't have an "out date". Perhaps like Angry Birds we should make paper cut outs of troops as we leave.....absurd.
Obama has not apologized. http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2012/jan/20/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-says-obama-made-worldwide-apology-tour/
Obama's health care law will bring down health care costs. Talk to your 'free market" insurance companies about recent raises in rates. The health care law is not fully enacted until 2014.
Conflict in Afghanistan has been complex. You can't deny that Pakistan protects Al Qaeda, and similarly Afghanistan does the same. Seems like no Republican candidate has a plan on Afghanistan.
Obama empowers his generals to negotiate troop presence. Republicans want to lengthen the war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Sanctions on Iran are now coming from the world and not just the US. Obama is right to wait and see if they work. Republicans seem to want to go into Iran with guns blazing.
I explained the sanctions above. We needed world sanctions not just US sanctions. It's much more effective to have collaboration in sanctions rather than going it alone like Bush did.
"A full 75 percent of those surveyed in 12 European countries approved of Obama’s handling of “international policies,” according to the poll from Transatlantic Trends, a group that studies public opinion in the United States and the European Union"
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63468.html#ixzz1oN2FsYeN
Greg,
The fear about Iran getting the bomb is based on the fact that Iran has not been the most responsible user of their power. They sponsor terrorism everywhere and ship weapons to groups that use it against civilians. The real fear about Iran getting nukes is who, in turn, will also get them? Hamas? Hezbollah? The Muslim Brotherhood? or maybe a rogue operation like al Qaeda. It's not just hawks and Israel who needs to be worried about a nuclear Iran.
Tell that to bin Laden, Quadafi and numerous others currently pushing daiseys!!!
Iran? The US and Russia have armed more nations and caused more deaths to civilians then Iran ever will, but it is alright when our weapons kill civilians since we can say we didn't pull the trigger. We were just the enablers. As for nuclear weapons being given to another organization. Sure, Iran is going to spend millions to billions of dollars developing a nuclear weapon and then just hand it over to them. Completely defeats the purpose of developing them. As for nuclear weapons falling into the hands of the terrorists, there is more to be concerned of former USSR nuclear weapons being the source then Iran.
Military force against Iran does not have to come from the U.S., Skup.
Let the Israelis handle Iran. We give them enough foreign aid money to bankroll their own attack. And while we're at it, let the Saudis and the Pakistanis kick in. It's their neighborhood.
We do not have the resources or the right to play policeman to the world.
Bob 1.32 post was straight up harsh. All very true though.
Sad thing is Obama's domestic policy is far worse than his foreign policy.
"And when I see the casualness with which some of these folks talk about war, I'm reminded of the costs involved in war; I'm reminded of the decision that I have to make ... This is not a game. And there's nothing casual about it," he added.
Exactly! This is why I trust the President to handle foreign policy more than Romney or Santorum.
"Israel will take out Iran." This comment, which is widely heard, shows why foreign relations is such a thorny path. Either that statement is just rhetoric to show solidarity with your particular tribe, or it is a serious statement meant to reflect reality. If the former, we can ignore it like all such rhetoric. If the latter, we have to ask what it means, exactly. Clearly, Israel may bomb Iran and might be able to cripple its nuclear program, but does that mean "taking Iran out" if they can just rebuild the program? Clearly Israel cannot defeat Iran in a conventional war. Clearly, there would be dire consequences from a bombing raid for many nations besides Iran and Israel. The language, in other words, has no existential meaning, and to toss it around is irresponsible.
Greg in New York - Sorry if I mischaracterized your comments. While I don't believe the sanctions will ultimately work and that it will eventually end in an armed conflict I'm definitely not spoiling for it. Our relationship with Israel will almost guarantee it. They are much more volatile than South Korea. One way or another we will get sucked into it. If the president is re-elected he will most likely be the one to have to make that decision. Your comments seemed to insinuate that it will be the hawks doing and that he doesn't really have a choice in the matter. As for serving, I just retired after 21 years in the Navy. I was in the gulf for the Iran/Iraq war in the 80s as well as the original gulf war.
kaybeetoys - I agree that it won't start with us but I don't see a scenario that doesn't end with our involvement.
The hawks will be pushing for the war beneath the surface, but they will find a dove face to sell the war. While Powell had a long history with the military, I consider him to be the dove of the Bush administration and he was used to sell the Iraq war. Something similar will be done with Iran. Unlike the previous wars, if there is to be a war with Iran, it most likely will need to be approved by Congress first. The only way I see a war starting in Iran without Congress approval is if Iran launches a preemptive strike on Israel or US bases in the region.
Ooooh I see skup, Q22 and Rob in Ma., are digging pretty damned deep to get something bad to say about the President. And, as usual, nothing they say has any value. It is so great to have a President that is admired by our allies and terrifies our enemies. It is great to have a President who can discuss options without war mongering. It is comforting to have a President who wants to avoid sending our men and women into harms way and will do what he can to avoid that. It is great to have a real President.
Obama/Biden 2012
Sailcat-2064101
"We don't presently have a CIC..."
"Osama bin Laden and Kaddhafi would disagree."
Good point. The entire Al Qaeda leadership would disagree as well.
Obama in 2012, if only because folks like Sailcat are so used to lies they repeat them without a second thought. They make Sean Hannity proud.
I'll take a 'wait-and-see' approach on that, Skup.
My crystal ball is in the shop.
Whatever, Buck Garcia. Vote for Obama...we don't care what 'logic' you use.
Obama has no credibility to rate any contender as he has failed miserably for almost 4 years now in the position. He may have been a good neighborhood organizer but is now way out of his league! Get rid of the bum!
bob-18...
Well said!
jrae: All presidents use teleprompters. Obama RELIES on a teleprompter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of61E1FesPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_AAMa_X2dM&feature=related
I mean REALLY. This guy HAS to have a teleprompter or he's lost.
GOP to Obama: "You are not a dictator".
Iray801 - the teleprompter issue is what you right wingers fall back on when you have nothing going for you - which is all of the time. President Obama uses a teleprompter no more and no less than every President including Regan. The fact that he can actually say big words is what makes you think he uses it more than Bush. You really don't want to discuss lost considering the two buffoons the far right is running!
left is fuzzy - pathetic post with absolutely nothing to support it!
jim-1455434 - no, the dictator was Bush!
left is fuzzy
"Obama has no credibility to rate any contender as he has failed miserably for almost 4 years now in the position. He may have been a good neighborhood organizer but is now way out of his league! Get rid of the bum!"
On the contrary, Barack Obama's performance this last four years has been stellar. Like it or not, George Bush took us to the edge of the abyss and Barack Hussein Obama pulled us back.
A true recalling of history can sometimes be a real bitch, especially if you're a Republican.
Obama in 2012, if only because folks like Fuzzy Wuzzy above cannot remember the fall of 2008 when the world teetered in the hands of Georgie Bush.
Freaking Hilarious.
Hey Beachbum you Rush types keep spouting your venom. As a parent of two sons in the military who have served in harm's way I want the President to do whatever is necessary to minimize the danger. If that means apologizing for the military's inadvertant error, so be it.
From a military point of view this has been the most competent administration since Eisenhower!!
Are you out of your mind? Obama stated that Afghanistan was the right war -the war that we had to win - the war that that he would win.
When in the last 2 years have you ever heard Obama even say the word "win?"
Now it is simply an inept, irresponsible attempt to make a "responsible withdrawal."
No he didn't.
Troop levels increased every year. Bin Laden and Taliban were driven into Pakistan and Al Qaeda went into Iraq where they were slaughtered. As Bush lost power to the anti-war movement, the Taliban became re-invigorated and stormed back when it was apparent a liberal appeaser was coming into office.
FOR CHRIST SAKE - BIDEN DOESN'T EVEN THINK THE TALIBAN ARE OUR ENEMY!
How inept can an administration be to not even understand who the enemy is in the longest war in American history?
Really .... BFD.
Is the CIC's responsibility to protect the country or to seek vengenance on an old man watching videos himself?
Bush ran Bin Laden out of Afghanistan in a month - it took Obama 8 months to tell the SEALs it was OK to take him out. BFD.
How moronic?
Obama DOUBLED THE TROOPS - it wasn't winding down when he made the pull out date.
Name another idiot in history that has announced a we quit date as he doubled down.
Obama made the most asinine decision in military history when he did that - gave the war away and everyone in the world knew it.
Only a clueless dumbass would confuse the military's Tricare with Obamacare / private insurance and try to comment on it.
Bob #####'s:
"And what kind of a CIC is Obama?"
The kind that kicks a$$ and take names!
Now there...
That's not the sad thing Rob. The sad thing is that the Republican Party's idea of foreign policy is to invade, that's it...invade! That's what we had under Bush, that's what the Republican frontrunners are putting out now. As to domestic policy, the Republicans keep trying to recycle "trickle-down economics". They want smaller, less intrusive government, except when it comes to human sexuality and reproduction (Taliban comes to mind). The majority of Americans (unlike the "new" republican party) are not willing to live under a theocracy. You can kick President Obama with the same tired talking points you've used for the last 3 years but when it comes down to it...you got nothing! And the American People are beginning to realize it!
Iray
I found that too embarrassing to watch
kaybeetoys - lol. Let me know if you get it fixed!
Bob numbers:
Obama didn't do any such thing. Now here's a question for you: aside from G. W. Bush, what idiot started a war, got bored with it before the war was won, then started a second war on false pretexts, and couldn't win either of them?
beachbum12 - The personal attacks are completely uncalled for. While I completely disagree with Feisty's politics it doesn't need to devolve into name calling. That will get you collapsed every time.
Hey seekingsanity:
Your screen name is at odds with your posts. Might want to look in to that.
kaybeetoys
I'll take a 'wait-and-see' approach on that, Skup.
My crystal ball is in the shop.
"Whatever, Buck Garcia. Vote for Obama...we don't care what 'logic' you use."
I only have one question: Who the hell are "we?"
That's hilarious! It is this administration that has interjected itself into the issue by forcing religious organizations to fund abortifacients against their faith. You can't get more intrusive than demanding that others abandon their faith to conform to the government's dictates.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL - Congrats on not having your comment collapsed! The first one in some time in the number 1 spot that wasn't collapsed in short order.
Skup,
Thanks... but the day is still young! lol
Give it another hour or so...
And Obama has demonstrated that he has not the qualities to be Commander in Chief.
How the hell can you have the enemy general killed and not captured????? The amount of information in his head is worth more than all the fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan put together.
A commander in chief would not dumb a body in the ocean under the DNA tests were run at least twice to confirm the body that was being dumped was actually the body of bin Laden. As everyone knows, the DNA confirmation was determined after the body was disposed of.
I would consult with Osama bin Laden and Kaddhafi before you make such ignorant remarks, fajado. They may have a very different point of view.
Some people are forever misinformed.
"President Obama ordered 30,000 new troops to Afghanistan in 2010 in a surge to help NATO forces drive the Taliban out of strategic areas. The strategy: Put intense pressure on the Taliban during the winter months in an effort to see significant progress by spring, when the fighting season resumes.
http://www.npr.org/2011/04/14/135412691/how-the-fall-troop-surge-changed-afghanistan
The result of a two-month review conducted by former CIA officer Bruce Riedel, it signalled a clear break with the approach adopted by the Bush administration on several levels.
The tone differed significantly when discussing the threat from militants and the rationale behind continuing America's involvement in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
There was no "you're either with us or against us", no cowboy-like "we'll smoke them out of their holes", just a simple, stern message to al-Qaeda that "we will defeat you".
He signalled that Washington was in it together with Afghanistan and Pakistan, and that the extremists the US was fighting were as much a threat to America as they were to Pakistan and Afghanistan.
"We are in Afghanistan to confront a common enemy that threatens the US, our friends and our allies, and the people of Afghanistan and Pakistan who have suffered the most at the hands of violent extremists," said Mr Obama. "The safety of people around the world is at stake," he added."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7969071.stm
Killing Bin Laden = BFD? Most Americans thought it was a big deal, that's why Obama's approval rating went up.
Tell me a time when we removed troops without a pull out date.
"Q: Would health care overhaul efforts eliminate TRICARE health coverage for members of the military and military retirees? A: No. This claim in a chain e-mail is false. Neither Congress nor President Obama has proposed legislation to that effect."
http://www.factcheck.org/tag/military/
Have a nice day!!!
I had forgotten Houston has such a poverty of intelligence.
Why not consult with Assad or Ahmadinejan or Kim Un, or the Mulsim Brotherhood? Taking out OBL was great (yeah waterboarding!) and Qaddaffi was not taken out by us nor was the support we gave initiated by us. I don't think Obama gets credit for that one.
So you are crediting waterboarding with bin Laden's death? Let me ask you a personal question: Do you slobber when you talk?
And, as CIC, President Obama personally gave the go ahead on the operation that got bin Laden, whether you like it or not. Read 'em and weep.
I love the short memory of many people. Does anyone remember when Obama entered the Lions Den in Baltimore? When it was him (alone) against the whole GOP in the room? When Obama put the whole GOP to shame without a teleprompter? Like him or not, the guy is smart, talk all the sh!t you want, you're just lying to yourself.
It's undeniable that the information that identified the courier that lead us to the bin Laden compound given to us by KSM through enhanced interrogations.
Wow. That was a tough call :)
It is deniable. The investigation was long, it used many forms of intelligence gathering to determine that bin Laden may have been at the compound, and waterboarding was not among the methods used to acquire information, much as you wish it were.
And the odds of bin Laden being at the compound and the chances of such as successful operation being pulled off were far from 100%.
Nice try, but fail.
Here is a detailed account of the operation. No waterboarding.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/08/08/110808fa_fact_schmidle
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42880435/ns/today-today_news/t/cia-chief-waterboarding-aided-bin-laden-raid/#.T1aMYcxHnPk
=bob-1805084
I haven't forgotten how you throw a tantrum because you're too stupid to answer a simple question. You couldn't think of another idiot besides Bush who started two wars and couldn't win either of them, and you can't back up you're assertion about Obama because you are lying.
Eric,
Six "duh" / "what is your point" paragraphs that challenge / refute nothing I posted is the best you can do?(Please don't tell me you actually think they did.)
FactCheck?
Are you serious .... the FactCheck funded by the Annenberg Foundation that funded the Annenberg Challenge that had Barack Obama as founding board of director?
No thanks.
My source was Investor's Business Daily - http://news.investors.com/article/602760/201202291845/higher-obamacare-premiums-for american-soldiers
Houston - It was a stupid, question misstating facts not worthy of a response.
So now you will re-write history? Al Qaeda was not in Iraq until after we invaded, period.
I got a kick out of your Biden comment too. The whole Bush administration had no clue of the different factions in Iraq, to them a Muslim was a Muslim, no clue of Shi'ite, Sunni's or Kurds. But he sure knew of the 1% Christians that were the smallest of the minorities. Yup, starting a war without knowiing your enemies is real smart, huh?
I asked this same question when the last administration attacked a country (Iraq) without truly knowing who the enemy really was. Remember "Mission Accomplished"? Uh huh, talk about inept...
Excuse me, but The President is calling the GOP warmongering when he just said that the US will always have Israels back. Veiled threat to Iran, maybe not. I am Independent, and that is calling the kettle black.
Forgive the lack of extreme political correctness that permeates our society, but I proselytize that if the President wasn't African American, he'd be out on his arse.
Iray801 - I keep seeking sanity from the far right. However, there is no sanity to be found in the GOP. But, I'm the eternal optimist. I keep thinking someone there will grow a brain - I know - long shot at best!
fajado - and all of the GOP senators agreed it was Osama bin Laden - once they had seen the photos. Next complaint?
Personally I think 911 could have been avoided by chaining the whole Bush family to the base of the twin towers.
Democrats have always been superior CIC's, and there has never been a shortage of Democrats willing to go to war or defend this nation:
Woodrow Wilson WWI
Franklin Roosveldt WWII
Harry Truman WWII (part deux)
Harry Truman (drop atomic bomb)
Harry Truman Korean War
John F. Kennedy Vietnam
John F. Kennedy Cuban Missile Crisis
Lyndon B. Johnson escalated Cambodia bombing
Barack H. Obama smoke Osama bin Laden
Barack H. Obama smoke Mohamar Quaddafi
So what have repubs done lately other than call a war to stuff republican campaign coffers?
I love the way people forget the less nuanced, but nearly identical statements that came from President Bush during his term.
President Obama has said (and promised) to close Guantanamo Bay...Not.
President Obama promised to immediately start pulling troops from Iraq...3 years.
President Obama said that elections have meaning and they meant he had the mandate to implement the ideas proposed during the health care "summits" which sounds eerily familiar to Bush's statement after re-election that he had political capital and now he was going to spend it.
President Bush said many times that people didn't understand the issues he was having to deal with, that they didn't know all the information, and that his congressional critic's weren't elected President, and therefore, he'd consider their opinions, but ultimately the decision and the consequences were his alone to bear. Sounds a lot like President Obama today. People tore him apart, as a puppet of others and arrogant, or a hick (or a million other horrible and disrespectful things).
When McCain lost and former President Bush left the Oval Office and President Obama took office, he became my President even though I didn't vote for him. I respect his office, and I believe that even though he's made a fair number of decisions, I don't agree with, he's still my President and I know he's doing what he thinks is best for the country.
I think President Obama finds himself in the position of saying and doing many of the things his predecessor said because he's walked in those shoes for mile or two.
I likely won't be voting for President Obama because I disagree with his policies and the direction he wants to go from here. If he becomes my Former President Obama, I hope he's as gracious as his predecessor when he departs and supports the new President in the same respectful manner that GW has treated and deferred to President Obama.
GOPisextinct......
John F Kennedy and Lyndon Baines Johnson certainly got us into Viet Nam, I would have a hard time calling either of them superior CIC's for doing so........
Just the opposite in fact
Greg Shep
You are a good and decent man I hope all the liberals read your last paragraph at least a hundred times
When is Obama going to actually to be Commander in Chief and stop trying to blame everything on Bush. Mr. Obama, you wanted to be President, now its time for you to take responsibility.
TO: Rob in ma-3189632 who wrote:
Not as bad as Republicans who had a head start with the $450,000,000,000 surplus Democrat President Bill Clinton left behind, which Republicans turned into the 2nd Great Depression.
If it were up to Republicans, we would have had soup lines here in America just like there were in Communist Russia.
Obama / Biden 2012
TO: Steve-2081387 who wrote:
The GALL!!!
Bush NEVER took "responsibility" for ANYTHING, and Republicans are STILL looking for a scape goat for all of Bush's traitorous deeds!
There are Republicans out there right now who refuse to admit that Bush was ever POTUS, and even more Republicans who claim amnesia because Bush was so horribly bad.
If it wasn't for Bush being such a disaster, the United States wouldn't still be trying to crawl out from under all of Bush's dirty tricks!
If you don't want people to be reminded of the most hated president in this history of the United States States of America then quit bringing him up, George W. Bush aka "Curveball"!
Obama / Biden 2012
American Girl...
You talking about the George W. Bush that gave us 5.3% unemployment until Pelosi and Reid took over?
The same guy that led us out of the dot com bubble burst and 9/11 recession without whining?
I do not have a problem admitting he was POTUS and I sure do miss him !
Sorry, skup. Force will not dissuade the Iranians from building nukes. For one thing, we will unite the fractious nation against the West (bad). For another, we will waste trillions of dollars and thousands of lives on ANOTHER war that is pointless. And even conservative magazines like the Economist state that force will not work. The longest the U.S. could set the Iranians back is 10 years. Not bad, but before we call in the F-18s we might want to see how far economic and diplomatic sanctions will go to weakening the Iranian economy. Anyone who is telling you that we should send our planes to Tehran is OUT OF THEIR MIND.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
Then again, you might be right. We probably might be involved with Iran at the end. I doubt that it will be militarily, but then again who knows.
I find it remarkable how the GOP candidates seem to think (like one mind in three bodies) that military action is a somewhat easy. Bombing a nation like Iran is not easy; they are bound to have SAMS that can shoot down some of our jets and they have a massive array of planes that can counter any fleet that we send. The only way to effectively end Iran's nuclear program militarily is put boots on the ground, infiltrate all of its major nuclear plants and facilities, and order a massacre or arrest of all of their nuclear technicians. The best way to coax Iran off of the idea of nuclear weapons (they are gonna have nuclear power either way) is to use our economic and diplomatic assets to keep pressure on Iran.
Simply put, all of these Republican candidates are nutcases. For example, Newt Gingrich claimed that Obama said that the reason why he was worried about rising gas prices was because of his rising election. Factually, a reporter (a member of Newt's nemesis, the elite media) asked about whether Obama wanted high gas prices to go to alternative fuels, in which Obama asked whether it's politically reasonable for a president to want gas prices to rise during an election. Or Mitt Romney declaring Obama as the leader of a anti-religion crusade (no pun intended). I mean, these guys are idiots. I wouldn't trust Grinch with teaching an economics class, or Mitt watching my dog, or Rick talking about sex.
I hope the American electorate will see the GOP for who they are: class warfare-instigating right-wing boneheads. The GOP have lost all sense of dignity. They claim that tax cuts and spending cuts will boost the economy, that tax cuts will raise revenues, that socialized healthcare is a narcotic, or that Obama is a "snob" for wanting more Americans to get a higher education (which we NEED). This party went a long way from the people's President Theodore Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln. I pray that the American people will realize that Obama is our only realistic option, and that the GOP is devoid of rationality.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
This Nobama 2012, End of an Error, cliche is as bad as any worn out catch-phrase from the 70's or 80's. About as bad as "Where's the beef" or "I'M a Pepper". The GOP has as much chance of taking the White House in November as Bill Clinton does. The Party stinks so bad that they can not attract anyone to run except for the absolute bottom feeders of politics. That's where your party is, like it or not. Until you nut cases get your heads out of your asses and try to exercise some mediated moderation instead of radical Conservative idealism, you will continue to turn away the very moderate 80% of the nation. Want to be on a winning team? Come to the middle instead of the looney right or the looney left.
"Nor will they never be"? Nice double negative. Your phrase means they WILL be...which is exactly what will happen.
Obama is an ignorant little man child who with a Napoleonic complex. He has to keep throwing his tantrums and remind everyone that he is president. Pretty sad if you ask me. Seems to me Obama wasn't Commander in Chief either when he was campaigning and trying to tell President Bush what he should do. Now the shoe is on the other foot, and he doesn't like it. Oh well....you get what you dish out. Funny how the liberals see things differently when they are on the defense.
Wow! Have you ever taken a basic English class? I'm betting on no.
"Now, what's said on the campaign trail -- you know, those folks don't have a lot of responsibilities. They're not commander in chief," Obama said.
What a hypocrite.
Obama "News" conference. News in quotes because there was nothing new:
1) On Syria, nothing specific, said Assad will step down at some point. 5 years, 10 years, 30 years? They all step down at some point Obama. What about the massacre that's going on? Tell us how long that will be allowed to continue.
2) Talked about Netanyahu, again nothing more than pandering to the Jewish vote.
3) Nothing asked by the media on the civil unrest in Libya and Egypt. The media needs to keep that one quiet.
4) Media touched briefly on gas prices, same rhetoric from Obama, the "All of the above" bs, and as usual no results. No follow up from the media, that's another one that needs to be hushed up.
5) Talked a lot about Limbaugh and played his "War on Women" line. Obama didn't mention the $1 million he got from Bill "Palin's a c__t" Maher, and the media didn't bother to ask. This is big news for the media, something they understand.
6) Another "Housing Relief" plan - what's this make 12? 15 of these things? Just another give-away to people that were irresponsible while the people that bought within their means, paid their mortgage, get nothing. Housing continues to fail.
7) Babbled on about immigration reform, nothing new.
8) Talked about Afghanistan and his "concern" for the Quran burning. No new apologies from Obama.
No questions on the general economy? No questions on a budget? No question on high unemployment? No questions on tax reform? No questions on entitlement reform? No question on the need to raise the debt ceiling prior to the election? No question on the $1.3 trillion dollar deficit? No question on the what's being done for the tornado victims? No questions on the move of the G8 Summit? No questions about the trouble AG Holder is in? No questions on why Obama thinks the new housing bailout will work while every other one has failed? No questions on recess appointments when Congress is not in recess? No questions about how the long term unemployed have fallen off the unemployment radar screen? No question about Obama's conflicting policy to go into Libya (because of massive civilian deaths) and not going into Syria (where there are massive civilian deaths) No questions about Solyndra and its failures, the Fast and Furious and its failures, and the (Re)Volt(ing) and its failures?
This is what the media wants to know about? There was no new information provided. None. Kind of makes it not "News".
The media will just not hold Obama accountable.
So Miss "No It All". First of all Syria. Where are all these airstrikes going to land. Do you know how to hit the "baddies" and not the goodies". How do you get arms to the "goodies" when you don't know where they are? Or will your guy just let the bombs fall where they may.
And what is your guy going to do about Iran? Just "Bomb bomb bomb Iran"? That should be fun?
And let's see ......... oh! it was your conservative judges that decided on Citizens United so you can forget about the $1 million donated to a SUPERPAC by Bill Maher.......... The president has nothing to do with superpacs....... remember???? And don't call Obama a hypocrit for using a superpac. It's your guys that made up the rules........... Obama doen't like the rules........ but rules are rules.
And its so nice to see you Joanna as a woman, defend Rush Limpdick. I wouldn't have expected anything less from you.
Don't worry about Syria JS. He will act on it as soon as the leader of the free world, Nicholas Sarkozy tells him to. Just like he did with Lybia. That way if anything goes wrong, he can blame someone else.
Let me guess... Joanna is a Republican.
Thanks JoAnnaSmith - Well put post. Peace.
You are so full of hate, you would destroy America for the 1% and call it freedom.
It is not that the media will not hold President Obama accountable, it is the fact that the media will not repeats your republican lies without question.
The loan for Solandra and the Fast and Furious program were both started by the Bush administration, but I have noticed you never let the truth get in the way of a republican talking point lie. You know, like how the republicans voted against closing GITMO and President Obama gets blamed for the way republicans voted.
Don't like what we are saying here, feel free to trot yourself back to faux and its lying propaganda that you love so much.
There was quite a bit new:
Republicans lambasted Obama for going into Libya and pulling off a success. Now they want to criticize him at this point for wanting to build a coalition and not go in unilaterally. Those are the hypocrites.
Obama talked about the lasting relationship and cooperation between the U.S., and Israel. Republicans have said that Obama has not supported Israel enough.
The unrest in Libya and Egypt is what happens as you move towards democracy in small steps. It just doesn't come together like "snap".
Obama talked very little about Limbaugh. He stated he didn't know what was in his heart and his words were inappropriate. Seems to me a lot of Republicans agree with Obama on that one.
The housing market is something that is dragging down the economy. That must be why Republicans aren't trying to fix it. Republicans continue to protect the very banks that did the derivatives trading that got us into this mess.
Obama is the only one talking about immigration reform. The Republicans just want them all deported.
We should apologize for the Quran burnings, as it puts our soldiers in harms way. There is something about having integrity and admitting mistakes that the GOP doesn't do. Thereby, they lack integrity.
There were responses from Obama on the economy which is doing much better. I guess some here should become reporters and ask those questions. My guess Obama would have an answer to each of them.
If you don't like the questions asked then watch FOX news and be satisfied with the half truths and lies presented there.
You're a real piece of work Ramboet. Typical libbie, attack first, use no logic, don't answer any questions. Then go off on a rant about somethings else. "Conservative judges" and CU"? You don't understand the issue, do you? Maher is as foul as anyone, and when he's a major contributor to Obama and the Democrats, all while calling women "c*nts", and "boobs", and that's okay with you. You go ahead and defend Maher Ramboet. Makes you real classy.
Of course these are things are what you and the media understand. You don't have one clue about the economy, gas prices, entitlement reforms or any other questions not asked today by the moronic media we have. You fit right in with them.
It's "Know".
Republicans "entitlement reform" = end the entitlement.
Privatize social security and make the elderly pay $8000 more per year for health care. Classy.
Thank goodness there is an option to ignore certain authors. Joanna gets on here daily just to blast the President. Hoping Joanna isn't really a woman, but sadly, she must be. Probably really wealthy too.
Rather than whining all time, why don't you do so? That seems to be the MO with Libs around here, they can't stand a different viewpoint, so they run away and hide. So run away and hide Dd1.
I won't ignore you though, you're so stupid with you're unending love for Obama, you're actually kind of amusing.
Joannasmith:
You're comparing Rush Limbaugh to a comedian? Really? So you get all your talking points from a shock jock comedian? I'm sure he would be flattered to know you hold him in such low esteem.
@JoAnnaSmith,
Pretty sure Ramboet meant "no" not "know".....as in the "just say NO" TEABAGS!!
"What a hypocrite."
So you're calling President Obama a hypocrite for stating a hard fact? Are you unclear on the concept of facts, hypocrisy, or both? I'm betting on both.
@Joannasmith - How much does astro-turfer make? Just curious.
I haven't made any comparisons of Limbaugh to anyone. You've somehow inferred that.
He is a hypocrite because 4 years ago when he was campaigning, he had plenty of foreign policy criticisms and suggestions for the , then CIC.
Try to keep up.
blearyeyed,
Rush and Maher are entertainers (kind of). Both are womanizers, and both are equally despicable. And if you cant see that you are truly blearyeyed.
Keep up? It's almost impossible to keep up with your incoherent ravings.
And this quote by President Obama, would you call it hypocritical, too?
"And when I see the casualness with which some of these folks talk about war, I'm reminded of the costs involved in war; I'm reminded of the decision that I have to make ... This is not a game. And there's nothing casual about it," he added.
The casual attitude with which Republicans seem to view war and the casualties taken by American soldiers is downright shameful. It is too bad the losers the GOP is desperately trying to prop up as potential candidates never consider the financial and human losses this country sustains with every war the GOP war-mongers push us into.
Republicans lambasted Obama for going into Libya and pulling off a success.
ain't it the truth, ain't it the truth. Can't make the Republicans happy whether you're bombing or not bombing, and certainly not when you make America look good.
I suppose they would be incoherent to you sailcat. I write above a third grade level.
Have you figured out why Obama was a hypocrite today?
Amy how are things going in Libya today?
How about Egypt?
Is Freedom blossoming this Arab Spring?
Then talk less and listen more you might learn something
Amy,
Do you really believe that, or is your anger getting the best of you? Not all Republicans are bad, please try and remember that.
"I write above a third grade level."
That is purely a matter of opinion. The thought processes at work behind your words are highly suspicious, too.
The hypocrisy of the GOP is the issue when they call for more war, more bloodshed, more devastation, then they criticize the president because he doesn't share their dark vision. You are an armchair war-monger who has nothing at stake when they send soldiers into combat to gratify your blood lust. I, on the other hand, feel strongly about Obama's policy of being thoughtful and cautious about charging into conflicts. As the proud father of a Marine, I would rather have a president who explores all available options than a leader who only uses the most destructive one. The fact that you would call our President a hypocrite because he sees better choices than war, war, war makes him the obvious choice in November and it makes you a coward, White Collar, for supporting the GOP's call to send our boys into unnecessary wars to do your dirty work. Shame.
JoAnna Smith is back with her lies and filth. I guess her parents taught her the end justifies the means. You don't have to write the truth if you get what you want. Sadly she represents a lot of Republicans who have given up integrity and stooped to the lowest level. Anyone expect any better of her?
Sailcat, have you figured out why Obama was a hypocrite yet today?
Or would rather just keep going off in the woods about your son and God knows what else?
I'm a war monger? Go back and check my posts sailcat and then get back to me.
You are an uninformed, low information poster who lies.
WCA - oh you are no one to call anyone names. Just how long IS your nose today????
OK SS, you've been beating this drum for a while now and I have aske dyou to prove it.
So please come up with some lies that I have posted here or STFU.
When cowards like White Collar have nothing else to fall back on except lies, they embrace them like their own mothers.
That's it WCA? That's all you got? How about giving us an idea of the brilliant Republican/T-Party plan? On anything? All we get is more failing attempt to resurrect "trickle-down" economics and how much we need another middle-east war. Oh...and how much we need to replace our Constitution with the Ten Commandments. Since the right seems so terrified of Muslims and Sharia Law, why do they seem so willing to institute a theocracy in this country? Your party has nothing to offer the American People...
Americans First-3238795, Occupy is dead
I am Dictator, I ment CiC so listen to me you mean GOP guys. "stop talking bad about me or I will take away TV privileges"
Ol-Doc - not sure you can call it a "party" anymore. Now it's just more like a small get together!
Alright Sailcat and SAnity.
As I figured, now STFU.
You say I lie here, I ask you tp provide one example and you can't.
You are losers. Pathetic losers.
You have no integrity or moral courage, White Collar. You are contemptible.
I will second that motion Sailcat - if WCA can't hide behind another right wing nut jobs skirt, he is totally lost!
Then he pulls out his victim panties and the why is everybody picking on me mantra! lmao
Before you Obama supporters go patting yourselves on the back for Libya, you might want to take a closer look at the situation. It isn't over yet. We have no idea what sort of faction is going to end up in power, and there is at the very least a 50/50 chance they will hate the US regardless of our non-congressional approved mission there. Obama made the US look good, please. The only way to do that is to pull out of the Middle East entirely, and even then the hatred would remain and the US would be wearing a target for another 1000 years or so.
There isn't a leader in the world that would take Obama at his word. Israel will go it alone, and the last person they would ever trust to have their back is Obama. From the world apology tour or the bowing to Middle East royalty, the world sees Obama as the weakest commander in chief since Jimmy Carter. Just because you can talk a good game or out of more sides of your face is hardly cause to fain your undying support. We have a joke in the White House, and the world is laughing.
How about giving us an idea of the brilliant Republican/T-Party plan?
Romney gave us a taste in his New York Times op-ed (I think it's his first since wishing Detroit to fail).
Romney wants to have two aircraft carrier groups in the region, not realizing that there are already two there and a third on the way.
Plus, he wants one of those groups to be stationed where they would need the permission of anywhere from 2 to 6 other countries to fly over their air space, instead of zero permission required for the carrier groups as now deployed.
And, he hints that within one hour of inauguration Iran will surrender, in part because he will deploy anti-missile shields in Israel and South Korea. What?
Israel has Patriot missiles already, so what's new about that, unless
Mitt thinks he can develop, build, and deploy an entirely new system in an hour.
And this guy wants to be Commander in Chief?!?
Teddy Roosevelt: "Speak softly and carry a big stick."
Mitt Flopney: "Fear me, I am feckful. I can make a dog throw up."
White Collar Auto-
Did you not read the posts above you??? Have you no sense of how long real changes occur??? Libya is in trouble, as is Egypt, but at least the people have a chance to deal with it. Tell me, if you were a Libyan living under Gaddafi, could you complained about him??? Gaddafi killed thousands in public executions; he used helicopters to fire on innocent protesters. We helped the Libyan people rise against him, and they are thankful for it. Let them choose their government; we don't know what's best for everyone. China might work best as theocracy; Russia functions well as a dictatorship: we don't know. The main problem with the Weimar Republic of post-World War I Germany failed because the people were accustomed to an autocratic ruler. That is partially why World War II occurred. Let the people of Iraq and Iran find their way; we provide support if they ask and send in the F-18s and the Marines if the enemy DIRECTLY threaten our interests (phony WMDs don't count). I am tired of us choosing what's good for everyone. We got lucky; we got it right the first time (second if you include the Articles of Confederation); not everyone is like that. Learn that, and you will know the truth. And the truth shall set you free.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
JoAnna, WCA, et al.... by now you should have realized that trying to reform an Obama supporter is much like trying to pick up a turd by its clean end. Ain't gonna happen!
Speaking Of Gas Prices..here:
"70 Congress Members in a letter: Gas Prices Spiked By Speculators":
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/media/view/?id=7360f2fb-7067-4b0e-bcd8-8a3f9afb70ac
Can any of you geniuses remind me how many American casualties were in the Libya and Egypt affair?????
NONE?????
Well, GOOD JOB then Mr. President!!!!!!
"bomb Iran!"; "bomb Syria!"; (do they not realize this would touch off a major theater-wide war?) "Obama is a tyrant!"; "stop borrowing money!"; "balance the budget!"; "get government out of our lives!"; "cut our taxes!". Did I miss any? Do the morally superior and brilliant RWA posters like JoAnna, or WCA, or whoever, not recognize that every one of these kind of statements are directly opposite or contradictory to other of there statements?
Oh well, critical thought and logic haven't been taught in the country in two generations. Enjoy your bumper sticker critical thought.
Simple, if you advocate wars, and lots of them, you better shut your pie-holes about not borrowing money and cutting taxes, cuz until the Republican geniuses in 2002 cut taxes during a war and a soon to be war; there had NEVER been a tax cut during a time of war in HISTORY that I've ever discovered. How'd that tax cut work at balancing the budget? How'd those off-budget wars go for balancing the budget?
*sigh*
dang it, I hate when I throw out, what a former teacher called "gross illiteracies", by mis-typing there for their!
Feisty, here's an impressive list of accomplishments from YOUR commander in cheif.
First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States .
First President to violate the War Powers Act.
First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .
First President to defy a Federal Judge’s court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.
First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs.
First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.
First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
First President to terminate America ’s ability to put a man in space-defunded NASA.
First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
First President to tell a major manufacturing company (Boeing) in which State they are allowed to locate a factory.
First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date & counting.
First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
First President to not know how to properly pronounce Navy 'corpsman'.
First President to go on multiple global ‘apology tours’-including bowing to foreign rulers.
First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer.
First President to say that America was not a Christian nation.
First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) just for his wife.
First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.
So how is this hope and change working out for you Libidiot Obamabots now?
And the proof of all this bull@!$%# is where? ...........FOX no news or conservative blabbermouths. What a load of garbage you crazy teabaggers believe.
A very long list of lies. Smith there has proven only that he knows how to cut and paste.
Ramboet, these are all proven facts that are easily googled.
ssmithlg:
Faux News much? Good christ, where do you kooks get this stuff? lmao... I notice you left off 25 months of private sector job growth, manufacturing up, export of US goods up, export of domestic oil up, consumer confidence up, etc. I like this hope and change thing. I like it just fine. :)
Obama 2012!
Wayne, you are welcome to disprove ANYTHING on the list you call "lies".
It's a long list, better get crackin'.
Good Luck.
These are proven lies easily googled by suckers like you, Smith.
ssmithlg,
Never heard of fact checks. Oh well, just another GOP liar.
You can usually count on a "pedestrian-in-San Fransisco" being from an Alternate Universe! LOL
NOBAMA2012 the End of an ERROR
Quite well, thank you for asking. The dumb wars are over, and hopefully we can resist the attempt of your ilk to drag us into another one. Osama bin Laden is sleeping with the fishes. The economy is improving. People finally have a more optimistic outlook on life in general. Things aren't great, but they are getting better. This is the direction we want to move in.
Half of that list is complete BS, and the other half I applaud the man for.
The United States is not a Christian Nation. It's a nation founded on Religious Freedom. As a requisite to religious freedom, it has a devoutly Secular Government. Why conservatives hate that, I can't understand. You can worship in any way you please, whenever you please, wherever you please, and you hate it. Do you really want the majority choosing how you can worship?
How about the very first one?
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/04/april-fools-still/
This is the kind of list you come up with when you get your news from Limbaugh and Chain E-mails... pathetic. Republicans really do have their followers blinded and believing a bunch of nonsense... even most the elected Republican officials nowadays go into office believing all this bullcrap.. Republican's strategy has been to demonize regular media and get their supporters to listen to nothing but conservative propaganda that they disguise as real news.. And it was worked wonderfully for them but unfortunately in the age of information their crap is slowly being called out and realized and Republicans will realize they have built themselves a house of cards
ssmithlg : 10,443rd teabagger to cut and paste and post moronic garbage on Newsvine that even a 6 year old can see through.
This is so full of lies I can only address a few of them.
I HOPE you will stop making stuff up and CHANGE to fact checking the mass spam mailings you get from the haters.
Laura Bush had 24 servants.
There is no citable source for the dog trainer being a tax payer expense. If this was true, the president would be charged with a crime and made to pay the cost. At least one of the various organizations devoted to getting rid of Obama would certainly have brought charges.
Could you please list the 'elected officials' that were replaced by czars?
etc etc etc
Let's take these one at a time:
The President is an American citizen.
Social security false claim debunked here: http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2010/02/obamas-social-security-number/
If Boehner had taken the 4 trillion dollar deal that Obama put out there, we would not have had a downgrade. Blame belongs on the Tea Party not Obama.
Obama didn't violate the war powers act. If you think he did, there are several other Presidents that have done the same thing. The only body that can declare war is the Congress.
Obama opened drilling to the Gulf with over 200 permits since the disaster caused by deregulation by the Bush administration.
Here is the whole list that Joanne put up and the fact check on them all: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-report-card.htm
ssmithlg is a birther. That sums up how much of his posts are even worth reading as in zero. That is unless reading lies and bs makes you feel better about yourself and what you wish was true.
ssmithlg,
I started to go down your list and do some research. By the time I got to #4, I realized that people like you do not care about facts and only care about repeating lies as much as possible in the vain hopes that idiots like yourselves will eventually believe lies to be true if they are repeated often enough. You are a waste of my time....
First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States .
The financial crisis began in July of 2008, months before Obama was even elected. He can hardly be blamed for the S&P reduction in the US credit rating. Obama’s only problem is the fact that he succeeded the worst President ever, a problem he continues to solve.
First President to violate the War Powers Act.
Yeah, just because something bad happens during a president's administration doesn't automatically mean it's his fault. Eric is right; Obama offered a $4 trillion balanced deal to reduce the deficit, which could have been built on with tax and entitlement reform. It was 75% cuts and 25% increased revenues, and you know what Boner said??? He said he like it, and brought it his colleagues. But since they were beholden Traitor Norquist's idiotic pledge, Boner and his cronies said no, plunging us into a fiscal crisis. $2.2 trillion in cuts were appropriated and a supercommittee was formed to address future cuts. But even that didn't work, and S&P cut our rating, chiefly because they thought that America's political parties were too polarized to handle serious financial matters. In effect, they were remarking that America's congressmen were acting like a bunch of grade-school children arguing over whether they should order pizza or tacos, or both. Had the GOP accepted that package; we would not have been downgraded; the recovery would have strengthened faster; and our political field would not be as polarized as it is now. Got anything else to throw out smith???? Cause you know that libbies like me will find the truth. So shut up you Fascist-bot and get a life. Seek the truth, for the truth shall set your free.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
The republican nominees show just how ill-equipped they are to become commander-in-chief when they go blabbing on about foreign issues that they know little about. The CIC makes their final decisions regarding any policy (foreign or domestic) based on intelligence and other information that these wannabes don't have. However, it still doesn't stop these jackasses from mouthing off and thereby making more problems.
So what is Obama's foreign policy? Can you explain it? The Middle-East is in flames. Barry and Hillary have been total failures while tensions continue to rise in that region. The other parties candidates have a right and obligation to point out his failures. Obama didn't know much about foreign affairs when he ran. He still doesn't.
Based on intelligence? It is pretty obvious what is happening in the middle east unless you have been living in liberal fantasy land. The Iranians are trying to acquire a nuclear bomb unless you are a gullible twit. You would have recognized, the left is continuing to procrastinate until they do. The Iranian government is ran by radicals. When they get that bomb it puts them in a position of power which they do not have now. When they do get it there is a great possibility they will use it. The failure of this current Commander-in-chief shows he is lacking, when it comes to protecting ourselves and our allies.
O JAS1 ... just when was the world not in flames?
O lanche ... they would use it why? The price would be that they become an ocean of black glass.
The middle-east is in flames? Have you told this to the Jordanians, the Saudis, the Lebanese or the Israelis? (Well, they are indeed trying to create nuke Iran, but they themselves have no credible threat against them - and that includes there being no credible threat from Iran.)
Yes, there have been several revolutions in Islamic countries, and they are still on-going. But it is not in flames and it is not about to burst into flames.
Lanche, the only problem is that this is the same crap they all said about Iraq. We all know how right they were about that.
If republicans want to go to war so bad, they need to increase taxes on the rich and create a draft again. Then we can see how much Americans really want to kill people all over the world so a republican can pretend he is a man while beating his chest.
It's easy to think the world is in flames when it's really just your own hair that's on fire.
I do not think we can allow Iran to finish developing their nuclear program.Once they do,it'll be too late for oops,we were wrong.
But I also don't think we are in a position to start another full scale war if we can possibly avoid it.You can't focus on the economy and commit to a war.
And contrary to what people think, you take one step in that swamp and it's next to impossible to not get sucked all the way in.
I am one of these so-called "gullible twits." The Iranians are in no position to acquire a nuclear bomb. They are not only able to even work towards having a nuclear reactor at this stage. And if they eventually even managed to get a nuclear weapon, both we and Israel have nuclear weapons that use their kind as a fuse.
Yea, listening to our own intelligence agencies and our own Pentagon and our President makes me a gullible twit and living in a liberal fantasy land.
Hey, I have an idea! Why don't we just ruin our economy, drive the price of oil beyond all reason, kill a few million Iranians, just so that we can satisfy your paranoid fantasies. Wouldn't that be like so awesome?
"So what is Obama's foreign policy?"
It's outlined here, Joanna. You can get your info from the source, for a change, instead of those right wing extremist zombie sites that contain nothing but a mixture of hot air and outright lies.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/foreign-policy
Obama's foreign policy credentials are extremely good. However, Republicans can try and say he isn't doing a good job.
Since when do American Presidents have substantial influence to change world events with the snap of a finger.......Republican naivete.
Priceless!
From the White House link: Stopping a Massacre and Supporting the Libyan People
Looked for a policy on Syria, there was none.
So lets understand this Sailcat. the policy for Libya was "Faced with an imminent massacre by Moammar Qadhafi’s regime, President Obama led in building an international coalition to protect the Libyan people. . . ."
So if this was the policy for Libya, why are the Syrian people less important? Or does the policy change from day to day, which makes it not so much a policy, but just more of a notion.
You've got some explaining to do Sailcat.
@euterpe:
ditto!
WAY TO GO!!! The truth shall set you free, unless your are a faux/teabagger! Hillary Clinton is by far a better SOS than Condie Rice!!! She ids respected around the globe for her toughness and unwillingness to follow the pundits. She and POTUS might not like each other on a personal level, but they both respect each other on a professional level . JS, as you set there with your bold Limbaugh face hanging out and say that our President doesn't know much about foreign policy. while that might be true in your mind, I can guarantee that YOU DON'T Either!!!!!
JoAnna - no one has any explaining to do to you because you don't listen or read anything that doesn't complain about Obama. You are so far right I'm sure you can't make a left turn in your car.
This is Liberal Speak from SS which means "Okay, I've lost the debate point, so now I'll just make a few personal insults and then disappear."
Bub-bye SS.
So Syria is all you got after reading Obama's foreign policy outline? If and when our President decides to take military action against Syria, I will expect your full support, Joanna.
JoAnna - you have no debate points - as usual - you post lie after lie after lie.
Jo Anna, Libya was a coordinated efforts between the surrounding countries, the people in the country, supporting large countries like France and USA. All the pieces had to come together to make it work for Libya. Remember all the republicans complaining about President Obama leading from behind and how they would have jumped in and if we had listened to them we would now have another Iraq or Vietnam on our hands only now in Libya.
President Obama is very smart and will go in when and if the pieces are all together to do the job right instead of the half a$$ mess that the republicans got us to in not only in Iraq but in Afghanistan too.
Is that splained good enough for you?
More proof that President Obama knows what he is doing. Unlike his critics.
Exactly so stop giving Obama credit.
It was a success because of how he played it and the coordination that he demanded for the USA to get involved, so how does he not get the credit?
I get so tired of how you republicans will twist anything to get your hate on for our President.
It was not his effort. I dunno maybe read. Example :
From # 5, a couple of posts down. This could be called fact. It just doesn't include the fact that most analysist's consider Obama's foriegn policy to be weak.
JoAnnaSmith
The case with Libya was that Gaddafi had no strong allies in the area. Plus NATO was able to destroy Gaddafi's military capabilities with ease. Syria is different. For one thing, it is supported by Iran, a major power in the Middle East. And Iran is heavily stockpiled in weapons. In addition, Syria is much bigger than Libya. There were perhaps 6 million people in Libya at the time of the Civil War. There are at least 22 million people in Syria, and a military numbering in the hundreds of thousands. Plus the Syrians have high-tech weaponry and aircraft. This would be very dangerous and costly. Not to mention the possibilities of sparking a war with Iran. Either way, oil prices would surge EVEN HIGHER, damaging a fragile economic recovery. And besides; Syria has no credible opposition. I would love to support the Free Syrian Army and avenge the deaths of thousands of innocent people, civilians, rebels, and soldiers alike. But we have to admit; they are pretty weak. We'd need a lot of aid, and that is hard to transport.
Finally, America cannot do it alone. We need the rest of the world to help us. That includes China and Russia. Lately, those two nations haven't done much to help the cause of the Syrian people. And without them (who by the way are on the UN Security Council), the UN and the US can do little, if anything, to help the rebels. Libya had no such geopolitical connections; it was practically isolated except for support in sub-Saharan Africa.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
From all analyses of almost every political leaning, foreign policy has been the administration's strong point.
I agree. It's the one thing that will probably make me vote for Obama as I consider foreign policy the only thing a president really controls; everything else is Congress.
I hope that 1 of Americas esteemed Carnival Barkers(formerly known as the MSM) get to ask Malibu Mitt,"Since you're so Adamant about going to War with Iran to stop thier percieved Nuclur WarHead, are your Sons enlisting in Americas All Volunteer Armed Services & if so, When"?
Occupy SoggyBottom!
There's not a single leader amongst the GOP candidates. They can't even stand up to Rush Limbaugh. Pathetic.
WTF? Rush isn't a politician, you do know that, right? If the answer is no, turn off your computer, unhook it and sell it for a clue. If the answer is yes, why the hell do you think politicians need to waste their time and taxpayer money to "stand up" to a radio host? Thats a real good use of our money.
That radio host is a stupid lard a$$ who will hopefully be forced off the air and only be remembered as an unfortunate footnote to the demise of the GOP. nuff said....
Why have a Republican Primary? Just have the Republican Boss Rush Limbaugh pick the winner. Think about it. Romney and Little Ricky talk big on Iran, but they are afraid of Boss Limbaugh.
So, since the Boss calls the shot's, let him pick the winner.
Take your own advice, cannonballer. The GOP's own is calling on their candidates to show some backbone. Truth hurts, don't it?
Speaking of the joke of a primary - they've managed to screw up the process rather royally. Not only do they lack leadership, they also seriously lack basic administrative skills.
euterpe - You are so right. When even the hierarchy starts telling it's members to rein in the rhetoric,you know it's gotten out of control. I am glad they may now realize they've got to show leadership and stop letting the fringe call the shots.
So true. FIrst rule of leadership, don't let those who work for you make you look like an idiot. Pretty simple, really.
Limbaugh finally went too far and his credibility, if he ever had any, will be suspect even to the morons who listen to him daily. When the guy talks about war with Iran you should ask yourself this. Did he ever serve? No, he did not. The reason he didn't go to Vietnam is because he was fortunate to have an ingrown anal abscess. I guess he has it in his mouth now.
euterpe - they have leadership????
So asking him to treat young ladies respectfully shouldn't be too hard, right?
What are they afraid of?
Then Willard "Mitt" Romney continued, "That's why, when we were fighting two unfunded Bush wars, when our economy faced a total meltdown due to the Bush financial crises, and as our debts soared, I had my money hidden away in Swiss bank accounts and tax avoidance investments in the Bahamas. That shows my resolve."
Mitt---lying to the American public to get them into war isn't a foreign policy either. Yet, most of your advisors are from the administration that did just that. We've seen their resolve and have the lost lives and debt to show for it.
forcing them to ride on top of a car on a 500 mile journey?
Makes you wonder why Mitt thinks he's an expert on what thugs and tyrants respect??
Just sayin'....those sons of his look pretty pussy-whipped....
As if he is Commander in Chief-he has had 15 vacations and spends less than 50% of his time at the White House. all he thinks about is what foreign nation he will go off to next or what state he will campaign in. Our country is in trouble and he does nothing but galavant across the country. The average American cannot afford 1 vacation a year no less 15 in 3.5 years, and that is not counting his trips across American every week. It makes me sick to think that with the price of gas (that he is doing nothing about) that American's can no longer take their kids on those driving trips across the country to see the sights.
Janet, it is not even 5:00 yet. Cant you lay off of the booze until then (lol)!
As of August 17, 2011, President Obama had taken 61 vacation days after 31 months in office.
At this point in their presidencies, George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch where his staff often joined him for meetings. And Ronald Reagan had taken 112 vacation days at his ranch.
Percentage wise :
Obama 6%
Bush 20%
Reagan 12%
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So Janet...Liar liar, pants ablaze!
No, Barry, they're not Commander in Chief yet, but they're all far more qualified for the job than you are.
Your calendar will be freeing up after 1-20-13. Gives you plenty of time to play EVEN MORE golf!
Barry's impressive list of accomplishments!
First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States .
First President to violate the War Powers Act.
First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .
First President to defy a Federal Judge’s court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.
First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs.
First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.
First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
First President to terminate America ’s ability to put a man in space-defunded NASA.
First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
First President to tell a major manufacturing company (Boeing) in which State they are allowed to locate a factory.
First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date & counting.
First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
First President to not know how to properly pronounce Navy 'corpsman'.
First President to go on multiple global ‘apology tours’-including bowing to foreign rulers.
First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer.
First President to say that America was not a Christian nation.
First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) just for his wife.
First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.
So how is this hope and change working out for ya? Don't you feel better now?
Do you really want to start comparing the conservative polititions with the liberal polititions? You do remember Richard Nixon resigning in disgrce right? You do remember Ronald Reagan and the Iran contra affair correct? You do remember GWB starting two wars dont you? You do remember all of those trips the GWB's ranch right? And these are just some of the things that I can think of off the top of my heads
smithlg.
Wow even Fox News would laugh at that list. You obviously get your news from wing nut blogs because there isn't an accurate statement to be found.
It's interesting just how many of those "facts" are not facts at all.
Much like the GOP political agenda.
ssmith....thanks for the list....Obooboo has an amazing record of cowardice and incompetence and the left wing trash scream for more.....what turds they are.......
cgtraw & Mark Thomas, you are both welcome to disprove ANYTHING you believe are not FACTS on the list.
It's a long list..... better get crackin'.
Good Luck.
Again with the cut and paste from a right wing chain email. It is just a list of lies.
This is so full of lies I can only address a few of them.
I HOPE you will stop making stuff up and CHANGE to fact checking the mass spam mailings you get from the haters.
Laura Bush had 24 servants.
There is no citable source for the dog trainer being a tax payer expense. If this was true, the president would be charged with a crime and made to pay the cost. At least one of the various organizations devoted to getting rid of Obama would certainly have brought charges.
Could you please list the 'elected officials' that were replaced by czars?
etc etc etc
lol, here's one that made me laugh
So a date night is now a "Lavish vacation?" Wow... I had no idea that dinner was now just like a tropical paradise!
You do realize his vacation time has been like 1/3rd of what Lil Bush took, right? No... that would be inconvenient.
Better than fishing with papa all the time, don't you think! LOL!
ssmithlg - actually if you go to Snopes you'll find the entire list is fraudulent. But then, you probably knew that when you posted.
What about a president working 16, 17, hour days on Sat. and Sun. When needed. In a time of crisis think he gets presidents day off?? Nobody seems to complain when a president has to put in long hours? Is there a presidents union to say no more then 12 hour days!
Don't count on it Sanity - he may be enough of a whackjob to actually believe what he posts.
Obama for President 2012..........get out the vote!!!
NOBAMA2012, the End of an ERROR
ABO 2012!!!!!!!!!
You know, it is pretty sad when you are willing to vote for some one you believe is worse than the sitting president just to get the sitting president out of office. That shows some real class!
AKA - We got nothing but our hate. Woo Hoo!!!!! /s/
Jack - class? You expect class from the right wingers? Please, there is no class there at all. Crass, now that explains the bunch of them. And, please don't talk brains because they're lacking there too!
@Euterpe
Yeah, right, ABO 2012(As long as he's white) They just don't have the stones to come out and say it. Cowards!
I don't know who they think they're kidding. These people are disgusting.
Dennis
Welcome to the Republican Party.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
ABRFC-Anybody But Republican'ts for Congress.
DEATH TO THE FASCIST NEOCON GOP
DEMOCRATS 2012
Well said JoannaSmith and Ssmith. All of your information is supported by the facts, which the blind followers of Obama, and the FOO (Friends of Obama) medial refuse to acknowledge.
Call a doctor. Stupidity is spreading like wildfire.
This is so full of lies I can only address a few of them.
I HOPE you will stop making stuff up and CHANGE to fact checking the mass spam mailings you get from the haters.
Laura Bush had 24 servants.
There is no citable source for the dog trainer being a tax payer expense. If this was true, the president would be charged with a crime and made to pay the cost. At least one of the various organizations devoted to getting rid of Obama would certainly have brought charges.
Could you please list the 'elected officials' that were replaced by czars?
etc etc etc
Also, Nixon/Ford ended manned space flight for a number of years following the moon missions. The right wing lunatic fringe clings to lies when it is all they have left.
The consistent spreading of lies comes straight from the Karl Rove political playbook. Keep repeating lies over and over and over and eventually you will find someone dumb enough to believe them. JoannaSmith and SSmithlg want you to think they believe their BS. I would not be surprised it they were birthed from the same momma.
Dave
What facts. They don't give links, just their word, which I have to tell you, just isn't worth very much. The Smith brothers never met I lie they wouldn't repeat.
Or even the same person using the auto name generator.
Dave in Houston - ssmith has yet to post anything that isn't total lies. Yet you support her - surprise there!
I say if the GOP presidential candidates and other GOP politicians are so eager to go to war, then let them send their children or grandchildren to the front lines when we invade another country. I'll bet that will make them step back and give it a good look before wanting to spill their own blood!
Willard has seven sons. Perhaps some of them should serve.
I'd like to see them pay for it, too, mama bear.
mama bear - better yet - let the candidates serve! That might make a little difference, doncha think?
Irresponsible GOP rhetoric is not what we need. All they are doing is making the situation worse-which is what they want....they haven't been able to keep the economy completely tanked, so now they'll try to start wars-with women(you'll lose boys), and in the ME.....have yet to hear you guys say you'll restart the draft so that the burden of war will be fairly distributed.....no, you'll let the few carry the burden until they break....what a bunch.....vote in the GOP and you'll get what you deserve-remember Bush anyone???????
Haha I remember Bush and he was a hell of a lot better than the current clown in power at the moment. Any Republican that is going to get the next Presidency will help our economy. Not to mention bring stability to the markets and businesses. The horrible agenda by the left has stifled innovation with businesses and brought instability and volatility to the markets.
NYSE up 40% since Obama came into office, that's the kind of market instability my 401k likes.
Stiffled inovation in the market...not sure what that menas but it's indisputable that the economy is way ahead of where George BUsh left it.
Bush and his republican posse created all of the problems which we have today:
- unemployment - tax breaks for sending us manufacturing jobs oversees
- housing - could have controlled monetary policy and lending better through the fed, fannie etc.
- debt - wreckless tax breaks and uncontrolled spending
- international reputation - invading countries un-provoked.
- imigration - let more illegals into this country than any other administration.
Wow, you think Bush was better than the President? Did any of your relatives die in the war? Didn't think so.
@lanchy,
Laughable!
Hey, Lanche, If you do your research you will find that the economy is better under a democrat than a republican administration for the last 50+ years. Check out Bloomberg news if you don't believe me. Our President has repeatedly tried to do whatever he could under his own power to bolster the economy. It is clear you don't have a good understanding of what the GOP candidates would do if they were elected. I have read Romney's 59 point plan it is mostly the same old, tired, trickle-down economics the GOP has pushed on us for the past 30 years. It hasn't worked so far, but it plays to the GOP stalwart.
@Den, they don't believe in "facts", just Right wing rhetoric!
Jo-An - facts make their little heads explode!
It is a bully pulpit. Speak loudly and carry a wet noodle. I'm sure it will all work out as it's supposed to for the President.
All you Obama haters, ever heard of fact-check? LOL Just repeating the same lies over and over don't make them true. The GOP is in free fall, they don't have a viable candidate, they are going to gather around Romney, because he isn't President Obama a democrat! All of the GOP candidates have the same plans, cut tax's, and deregulate, been there done that, been trickled on enough. And if the GOP candidates are to scared to stand up to Rush Limbaugh, how would they stand up to any foreign leader. Ron Paul is the only GOP candidate to stand up, to Limbaugh!
You really can't put Ron Paul, in the GOP group! He has some far out ideas, but he does seem to stand up for what he believes!
You mean "factcheck.org" / a Project of the Annenberg Public Policy Policy Center?
So we should verify "facts" with an organization with ties to Obama & his administration?
Kind of like asking the fox to guard the chicken coup. LOL are you Libs that naive our just stupid?
A review of board minutes and records by CNN show Obama crossed paths repeatedly with Ayers at board meetings of the Annenberg Challenge Project.
The project's organizing committee asked Obama to serve as the board chairman in 1995. Annenberg Project Executive Director Ken Rollings said Ayers was not a member of that ad hoc group when the decision was made.
@ssmithlg, hummbird didn't say "factcheck.org", just fact-check...as is CHECK THE FACTS! In this year 2012, google will bring up a ton of sources for everything being debated. It's up to "us" to read through the info and make our conclusions based on what we have read. Not just listen to one source and agree, without fact!
As hummbird said:
Just repeating the same lies over and over don't make them true.
I know this doesn't fit the narrative of the tighty righties; but:
I know,...inconvenient truths and all that; but the facts are a persistent little thing.
@Clara,
facts can be tricky little critters, can't they!
LOL
White america will not feel guilty enough to vote for a ni__er again.
Same to you white ass cracker! You probably only made it to the 6th grade.
pony05 ... hey spook, whatup? Ya' wanna amble yo' ass over here? I want to decorate my tree with some strange fruit.
Pony.......
I am a white man who will glady say that President Obama is one ni-er that i will gladly vote for again.
Mr. Obama has represented this country well, no-longer are we ashamed to face our international allies due to the actions of our leader. We couldn't say this with Bush in the White House.
Obama has united this country and demonstrated our power in a righteous way. He hasn't brandished his power wrecklessly.
There are all kinds of ni--ers in this world, and i dont think i need to explain which category you fall into.
Wow! Sure hoping you get deleted.
This guy is DEFINITELY gonna be deleted.
Right on Jesus. For the first time in years Americans are able to hold their heads up high and boast about how their nation is doing somewhat better than much of the world. Not only that, but we have a leader who is a 21st JFK; young, charismatic, charming; the perfect politician. He has his flaws, but his flaws are better than most of the attributes of this clown gang. I am another white American who supports Obama, and if that means that I am a ni-er or that I am supporting a ni-er, then so be it. This guy has good ideas and has gone to great lengths to bring change. If we re-elect him in 2012 AND give him a solid Democratic majority in both houses, we will see real change on the deficit and on the economy.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS 2012
Obviously we are going to need large tax increases to pay for all of these wars against countries that are trying or might be trying to gain nuclear weapons. Wars are not free. If we paid for them up front we would not have so many!
In these posted comments it is easy to tell the people who actually know something about the world than the ones that don't. Another war is not the immediate answer to Iran. For the last 11 years that is all we have been doing and going to attack Iran or bombing Syria is the dumbest thing we could do right now. Unless you really want the world to end sooner than Dec 2012 we have to try the diplomacy first because all the UN security council members will agree to it (ie. Russia and China). JoannaSmith are you prior military? Which will prove why you know so little about war.
We very well may need to use force to deal with Iran before this is over, but to advocate for war right off the bat is foolish in the extreme.
I think all of the courageous soldiers who served in Iraq and Afghanistan are about played out - we better think twice about calling up the same men and women again.
Craig,I'm Marine Corps Ret. and went to war under three presidents and have 3 George Meldals and four commendations for valor so tell me about war.
I didn't vote for O"bama but I serve under him Ricki tic. He's one hell of a CIC We lost 58000 men and women. Get of the ladies butt and pin that star on your forehead.
Thank you for your service, Dog Patch.
I agree with everyone on this thread. We cannot advocate war while we are extricating ourselves our of ANOTHER Afghanistan. If they fire on us then let's give'em hell; hey, if I could serve, I'd sign up just to see the sorry face of Ahmadinejad when we bomb out his palace. But we have to be practical. A war in Iran could fiscally destroy us; and for what?? Protecting Israel??? I'm all for being an ally with them, but we can't keep coddling them; and I am in no mood to see my country collapse because of ANY nation, even Israel. We'll tighten sanctions and diplomatic constraints, and bomb them if necessary (but that will only delay the process), but Israel should also be negotiating with them. I don't care if Iran wants to eradicate them; offer a talk, if they say no then you get the benefit. Simply politics.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
What a pompus bozo. He calls his first press conference on Super Tuesday to tell us who he is going to give the "free" money to, that he extorted from a few mortgage lenders? No wonder the GOP won't work with this idiot. His poor leadership need to go back to Chicago where poor leaders are tolerated.
I think it's pretty obvious that those "few mortage lenders" decided that helping to solve the mortgage crisis was better than the civil and punative fines that would have been levied for their illegal mortgage lending practices.
Why would they just give money (and a lot of it) to the government if they didn't know the alternative was going to be worse?
First of all this robo-signing crap should never have been an issue. Honest people would look at their situation and determine if they have made their payments or not. If not they would clean the place up and leave it in the condition they got it in. Encouraging people that it's someone elses fault they didnt make their payments or relying on some "loop hole" to avoid making payments should not be condoned by the President. Let's face it we elected a loser that has just encouraged more people to lower theirstandards. No judge in his right mind would give a dead beat borrower the time of day because his foreclosure notice was robo-signed. We need a better example of of leadership in the White House...
UAW Pl:
Just goes to show that it doesnt' take much to upset the GOP Clown Car. And by the way, the GOP doesn't even work with the GOP.
Obama 2012
UAW, you can't see the bigger picture here can you.
UAW whatever,
Sorry to disappoint you, but when they robo-signed those forms they broke the law. Now, you wouldn't want criminals to get off scott free,would you.
Independent, I would liken Robo-signing to Jay walking. Hardly worth the time to prosecute so let them go. I certainly wouldnt award a bonus to someone who hasnt been making their mortgage payments because their foreclosure notice was robo-signed. If I was dead beat and a check showed up in the mail via Obama-scam. I'd laugh and think wow this president must be the biggest idiot in the world. If anything that money should go back to legitemate tax payers who are now on the hook for all these federally gaurenteed delinquent loans....
Mark, Maybe you can tell me what the bigger picture is?
This is laughable. He savaged George Bush at every turn, including the wars. He did not support him at all. This clown is an absolute hypocrite.
I don't recall Obama ever saying that we should send our troops off to war. That was the point being made today, it is easy to call for war but a CIC has to be more responsible than that.
Barack Obama is not a "clown" he is our duly-elected President of the United States. I certainly sleep easier at night knowing he is guiding the ship and not Bush or any of the Republican candidates.
the only thing cash for clunkers acheived was getting rid of a bunch of obama/biden bumper stickers.
Did you see the sales in the summer of 2011? I laugh in your face, its like a huge uptick from 0 to a 100 times what they usually sell. Of course you people dont like facts.
God fearing man. Facts do you know them. I worked in advertising for the paper and dealt with the car dealers, they lost money on cash for clunkers. Most of the time the oney never came from the program because every little regulation and rule had to be followed to get the money. I know for a fact that if they missed dotting an i or crossing a t they don't get the money. Car dealers do not want a repeat of that failed program. If you want proof, go to your local dealer and ask them.
Every time the President has had the bad guy in the crosshairs, he has pulled the trigger. He has ordered the death of numerous terrorists along with any pirates who got in the way. Anyone who thinks he won't pull the trigger again is not paying attention.
Actually a pretty good point, Obama has shown no hesitancy so far.
like brian terry?
mitch j- I thought your long furlough meant you were reading and had a better understanding of the issues mitchie- oh well a liberal could hope-welcome back
hi pax! hope you are well.
sorry for the simple attacks. you know i cant help myself sometimes.
keep up the good fight my friend/adversary!
sane command of your weapons... imagine the premise.....
a President using common sense and attaching value to the lives of the Soldiers who are deployed (which I was a number of times over the years)
"For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill." -Sun Tzu
This is a very correct Mr. President! "Romulian Romney" is the GOP "Speculator and Chief." He is also known as "Fiip-flopper and Chief." "Romulian Romney" has no foreign policy experience at all, and the Iranians would love to manipulate "Romulian Romney." Then there is "Sanitaium Santorum" the GOP/Tea Begger "Church In Commander." He has no clue of what the Bible really says however, he thinks that he "Cognitive" enough to know. A vote for the GOP/RNC is a real vote for the morals, and ethics of "Lunatic Limbaugh." Oh! That's right! He has neither morals or ethics. That is fact!
If they aren't Commander in Chief, who the hell is?? If Obama was Any kind of commander he would have gotten us out of Afghanistan yesterday. He is stalling the withdrawel until after the election's so that if he win's he will keep the troop's in Afghanistan for another Five years. Commander in Chief, give me a break. An Apologist is all he is. $5.50 Gas under Obama coming soon to your neighborhood.
if you want cheaper gas support the end of speculation in the oil. The price was $50 a barrell and the demand is no higher- just a lot of talk about war in the middle east. You do realize that 2/3's of the people speculating in oil have NOTHING to do with the product- its all a gamble but a very smart one as the speculators by their actions control the market
For what possible reason would Obama want to keep us in Afghanistan for another 5 years? (this ought to be good)
If you were in such a habit of listening to Democrats say in 2003, we wouldnt be in Afghanistan, we would have had more fuel cars. Iraq never would have happened either. Listen to us again since we seem to have a history of good decision making. OBAMA 2012!
Tarzan. The gas prices are controlled by the oil companies here in the U.S. It's obvious since the usual causes of rising oil prices, supply and demand, are absent, that there is no other reason than the desire of the oil companies to give Obama a "problem" which can be blown up and utilized by the right wing. Especially now that the economy is improving and the jobs numbers are out and show huge leaps and bounds. It hasn't been lost on me the way the right wing candidates and pundits in sync with the oil companies, are trying to blame Obama for what they have done. The oil companies want Republicans in the White House so they will get everything they've paid the Republicans for. They don't want to lose the subsidies, their corporate welfare checks, which once Obama gets more Democrats in Congress, will surely be thrown out the window. And they certainly want every bit of land and sea in our country opened up to them to rape and pillage, leaving the people of this country with the mess they cause.
Commander in Cheif, Mr. Obama, knows what's going on here. And so do the majority of Americans.
Right,....and the republicans voting to keep the wars going had nothing to do with anything. Right Tarzan?
Please do tell when was it Presidents became able to end wars on a dime especially when republicans don't want them ended?
If the republicans had their way we would still be in Iraq. The republicans fought tooth and nail because President Obama fulfilled an agreement signed by President Bush to leave Iraq.
Republicans attack President Obama for the rest of the things they did, why not blame him for keeping the Afghanstan war going?
Meanwhile the rest of the republicans attack President Obama for setting a time table and wanting to end the Afghanistan war.
For the love of America, Obama/Biden 2012
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Americans First-3238795, go occupy a job.
Geez, any damn fool can figure out that bringing all those troops and equipment home is REALLY dumb when "reminding" Iran they really don't want to have nukes. It's called logistics boys & girls.
Tarzan, you do know that pulling troops out of Afghanistan right now BEFORE any negotiations with the Taliban is insane. We will simply let the Taliban plunge the nation into civil war. I have reservations about the war, but we should at least have to guts to finish it responsibly. Plus we need to negotiate with the Taliban. Whatever hatred you have for them out of the way, you need to negotiate with your enemies. I mean, we did negotiate with the Japanese in World War II and the North Koreans in Korea. We won the former and tied the latter. Diplomacy takes a while. And that goes against the generals.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
lahater-Go occupy K Street. Not so good when what comes around goes around, huh??
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
Your not the boss of me!