Obama talks tough toward Iran before meeting with Israeli PM

 

Before they began a closed-door, one-on-one meeting, President Obama told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the United States “will always have Israel’s back” when it comes to the nation’s security.

The meeting in the Oval Office, which was to be followed by a lunch, came a day after the president addressed the annual gathering of AIPAC, the largest pro-Israel lobbying group, in which Obama assured the crowd that his policy toward Iran was to prevent it from obtaining a nuclear weapon, not “containment." Obama pointedly refused to rule out using military force to disrupt Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Obama reiterated that statement today during remarks to the press before his private meeting with Netanyahu.

“My policy is prevention of Iran obtaining nuclear weapons. And as I indicated yesterday in my speech, when I say all options are at the table, I mean it,” he said.

The president also said, as he did Sunday, that the United States believes diplomatic efforts still have a chance of effectively dissuading Iran from pursuing nuclear weapons.

“We do believe that there is still a window that allows for a diplomatic resolution to this issue, but ultimately the Iranians' regime has to make a decision to move in that direction, a decision that they have not made thus far.”

While Iran’s nuclear aspirations are taking center stage this week, Obama also mentioned the ongoing conflict between Israel and their Palestinian neighbors, saying that he would discuss with Netanyahu the possibility of “a calmer set of discussions” between the two parties.

“It is a very difficult thing to do in light of the context right now, but I know that the Prime Minister remains committed to trying to achieve that,” he said.

Netanyahu, whose relationship with Obama was succinctly described by the president as “functional”in an interview last week, thanked Obama for the “strong” speech at AIPAC the day before.

He emphasized that the security interests of the United States and Israel are intertwined, given that Iran views them both as Western adversaries.

“For them, you're the Great Satan, we're the Little Satan.  For them, we are you and you're us. And you know something, Mr. President -- at least on this last point, I think they're right. We are you, and you are us. We're together,” Netanyahu said.

Netanyahu is expected to address AIPAC at the group’s gala event this evening.

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Hold the phone. . .

Did not Obama already offer the Iranians the once-in-a-lifetime chance at an actual, one on one, in person, meeting with himself?

And did not the Iranians, rather than swoon, simply laugh hysterically at the ego of this moron?

Oh, yeah, Obama's doing a great job on Iran.

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#1 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:16 PM EST

I rest my case........... look at who's itching for another war.

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#1.1 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:20 PM EST

no Jo,

If Kennedy had behaved toward the Russians in 1962 the way you want Obama to behave toward the Iranians, we wouldn't be experiencing this crisis or any crisis in 2012. Let cooler heads prevail.

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#1.2 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:23 PM EST

Do you have a problem with Obama having a meeting with Iran, no jo?

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#1.3 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:27 PM EST

I watched the AIPAC speech yesterday and he made a compelling case for his support of Israel. The Jewish community knows that the United States clearly supports Israel.

The Republicans would go to war with Iran, but are scared to death of Limbaugh. All the GOP candidates together don't have the knowledge and insight of our President. What a bunch of losers...and the Republican insiders know it.

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#1.4 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:28 PM EST

Where did I say anything to indicate I wanted war with Iran?

What I do NOT want is someone who believes promising an audience with himself-which only displays his incredible egotism- will have a positive effect on foreign leaders. It has, in fact, the opposite.

Obama had his chance when the Iranians took to the streets protesting a stolen election. He could have done, with technology, what Reagan, Thatcher, and Pope John Paul II did for the Poles -the Poles were supplied with money, smuggled mimeograph machines, and other outdated Twentith century technology to keep the movement alive. Obama could have helped keep Internet access, cell phone service, and Twitter accounts open after the Iranian government cut the people off- all while maintaining the stance that we were simply observing events.

He passed on the opportunity.

Kind of the way he passed on the opportunity to mitigate food shortages in the Middle East and North Afroca when he was warned that war and weather had combined to cause serious food shortages that might trigger uprisings in the region.

When it comes to doing his actual job, he is usually a day late and a dollar short.

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#1.5 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:41 PM EST

It is pretty obvious Jo, that you want the opposite of what the president does in all cases. The opposite of diplomacy is war.

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#1.6 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:45 PM EST

If you weren't such an Obama hater, I might be able to look at your posts subjectively but as it is....

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#1.7 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:46 PM EST

Uh, you DO look at them subjectively. Obama worship has severely reduced your ability to read anything OBJECTIVELY.

That's sad for you.

It's dangerous for the country.

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#1.8 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:51 PM EST

No Jo...And your point is?????? Perhaps we should let a "professional manager/pawnbroker" like Mr. Romney run the country and "take on" Iran no? That's what we need in the oval office; a guy who beaks up companies and then resells the components and thinks nothing of the human cost of his decisions. Yup NoJoe that is just what we need: a man with NO foreign policy credentials who is more than willing to send my kids off to war while his are comfortably ensconced with their huge trust accounts. We need a real man like, Mitt, or Newt or Rick..Right NoJoe?

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#1.9 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:52 PM EST

Mr President, please do the right thing that will be of U.S.A interest. America first then......

Those playing politics with this issue can go ahead and throw words around carelessly. Iraq is a typical example.

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#1.10 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:53 PM EST
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The nut job conspiracy theorist from NJ is at it again... eh?

You were chomping on this bone last week... Where's the BEEF Donna?

Andrew Breitbart died- but the video footage of Obama that was to be released yesterday still exists- and will be released in the coming days. His legacy lives on, and

Obama shelved in 2012.

#8.19 - Fri Mar 2, 2012 9:42 AM CST

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#1.11 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:06 PM EST

Once again, No Joe, you are lying about something President Obama said. He was asked whether he would meet with Iran with no preconditions and he said yes. What would be so wrong in having a diplomatic exchange with another country? Opening a door to discussions? Doing whatever one can to prevent more young Americans from losing their lives in a war?

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#1.12 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:10 PM EST

Torpedo, that's funny bringing up human costs...but then an abortion isn't killing either. BTW those companies would have gone under anyway. Just curious, did Obama leave the Israeli PM sitting for over an hour this time to have dinner?

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#1.13 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:13 PM EST

The PERFECT POLL! I got it.

Should we go to war with Iran?

Those in favor can cast their "Aye" vote by signing their enlistment papers.

Those opposed - Well, all you have to do is stay home.

I'm expecting a unanimous vote against going to war. Chicken Hawks can't write.

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#1.14 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:14 PM EST

No Joe,

The leader of the people in the streets (Green Movement) asked President Obama to not interfere because of the danger to the people in his movement.

If some of the Conservatives here wanted to help then with their billions of dollars why didn't they fund a covert operation to supply need items?

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#1.15 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:17 PM EST

NJNB tends to leave reality occasionally! Fairy tales are her realm it appears.

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#1.16 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:24 PM EST

Let's weigh the ramifications of what Iran is doing. We know they have about 150 grams of fissionable material now and are producing more every day. It takes 100 grams to produce a 5 megaton bomb. That would level Tel-Aviv. It would kill over a million people. There is no other use for this type of enriched uranium other than to produce a bomb... Iran keeps denying they are doing it for a bomb... while also denying the procurement of a delivery system, the compression device, the trigger and several other items they have in their possession.

Iran has vowed to destroy Israel. They've never recanted that vow.

How much reasonable dialogue do we need to discover more? How much more diplomacy is required? Sanctions are already in force... but most intelligent people realize that sanctions are only limited in their purpose. Black markets exist everywhere.

What other diplomacy means will Obama provide? Dialogue? It hasn't stopped Iran so far. Sanctions? Not even making a dent. Asking them pretty please to stop hasn't worked... Iran marches on.

I would like to hear the liberal version of more diplomacy, more diplomatic means... before Iran actually assembles nukes... What will Obama say to stop them when all other attempts have failed?

How far do we let Iran go before they are stopped? After launching the nuke, is way too late.

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#1.17 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:33 PM EST

The president has wisely said that this is not the time for saber rattling. All it does is heat up an already volatile situation, thus raising oil prices and therefore aiding Iran. Put the saber down!

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#1.18 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:41 PM EST

Steeler, you neatly forget the "secret letter"- revealed by the New York Times- that Obama sent to the Iranians in January of this year. The letter told them that he would be seriously angy if they shut down the Straits of Hormuz- but, if they were really good about keeping them open, he, himself, personally, would be willing to meet with them.

They were, to put it mildly, not impressed.

Kind of the way they were not impressed by his asking them, pretty pretty, please, to return our drone. Remember? They sent back a model?

What is up with the selective memories of Obama cult members? How many embarrassing moments can you cut from your memory banks?

How many failures can you ignore?

How many lies can you overlook?

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#1.19 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:42 PM EST

BrianB:

To hell with your "liberal version" of anything. Limit this to hard, provable facts, not political persuasion. Where is your proof that there's 150 grams of fissionable material in Iran's possession?

We've been down this road with yellowcake, with WMD's, and mushroom clouds. Show proof.

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#1.20 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:42 PM EST

They have not shut down the Straits of Hormuz.

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#1.21 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:44 PM EST

Benny if Obama is patting your back make sure he doesn't have a knife in his hand. That or get rid of the suit and tie and dress like your arab cousins then he'll bow to you.

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#1.22 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:57 PM EST

We've been down this road with yellowcake, with WMD's, and mushroom clouds. Show proof.

Sure, just let me break into the CIA and look around for the files. I'll be back after a long stint at Gitmo.

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#1.23 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:13 PM EST

Netanyahu to Obama --

I'm not an unmensch. I'm you.

David to Brianb --

We've been down this road with yellowcake, with WMD's, and mushroom clouds. Show proof.

Now, now, David. Brian is absolutely entitled to his misguided opinion, without any nasty personal attacks from you or demands that he produce any "facts" to back himself up.

In fact, I'll see his 150 grams, and raise that by 100. That's my opinion, and it's just as good as yours.

Who are you to question my opinion? Stop persecuting me.

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#1.24 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:14 PM EST

Conspiracy theories abound!

I want a President that "thinks" and "talks to his enemies", unlike the crazy GOP, "blow em away" idiots!

OBAMA 2012

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#1.25 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:20 PM EST

maybe Obama is the Chamberlain of our time??

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#1.26 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:24 PM EST

Yes, James, Obama is an "appeasement" president....just ask Osama Bin Laden!

OBAMA 2012

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#1.27 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:33 PM EST

I'm sorry but since when does Israel not have 20 times the nuclear assets (bombs!) that Iran is presumed to be making (and it's only a presumption at this time just like WMD's in Iraq were a presumption before the U.S. neo-cons attacked). And since when does Iran not have the right to produce a single nuclear weapon to defend itself against attack by Israel that has (how many?) or the U.S. (that has thousands?). If Israel attacks Iran, it will trigger a mass conflagration given Iran's long range weapons capabilities which will further inflame the region people's against the Israeli state neo-conmen attackers and cause just the opposite of what is desired by the Israeli population. The use of the fear card may work in the short run but never in the long run.

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#1.28 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:38 PM EST

Here in lies the problem. Being in bed with Israel is going to be Americas downfall. Why do we have to have their backs? After-all America saved them in WWII.. They should be paying us back, not with lies about Iraqs WMDs or planting bombs and killing Iranian scientists. Iran is a sovereign nation and should be allowed to do what they see fit inside their own nation. America does, Israel does, why not Iran?

We give Israel $4+ Billion a year. We gave them WMDs, yes they have Nukes and will use them. We don't need to support Israel. Israel needs to fend for themselves. THEY are the problem with peace in the middle east.

STOP pandering to the Jew machine. THEY are not making America safer!

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#1.29 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:45 PM EST

It would be INSANITY for Isreal to bomb Iran at this point. And with all the tough talk from Isreal, If I was Iran, I would want a nuke too. Look what happen to Lebanon a few years ago. Isreal committed a crime aginst humanity, that went unpunished. You can't keep taking land whenever you feel the urge, and not upset your neighbors. That would be like me building a settlement (house) in my neighbors backyard, then claim his land as mine.

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#1.30 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:52 PM EST

David said: BrianB: To hell with your "liberal version" of anything. Limit this to hard, provable facts, not political persuasion. Where is your proof that there's 150 grams of fissionable material in Iran's possession?

We've been down this road with yellowcake, with WMD's, and mushroom clouds. Show proof.

To counter: To hell with your liberalism and ability to deny that any of this exists. I heard the numbers on CNN today. I'm terribly sorry that it wasn't in print form... but CNN was explicit in their report. I searched their website and it wasn't on there. We might have to wait until later. Could it be that CNN was wrong? They are pretty liberal of course. Could be they lied... How apropos.

So David... you are a denier of Iran's intentions, eh? You have absolute proof that Iran isn't working on the development of a nuke... or nukes. You trust these people... the same government that has vowed to destroy Israel... Oh, what the hell, it's only Israel... who cares, eh?

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#1.31 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:06 PM EST

Jo-An - I sure would have liked to see a photo of Bin Laden... Where's his body? At 30,000 feet below the sea. How come most of the seal team that did the job are dead? Hmmmm? Pretty convincing to me. Oh... now I'll be blamed for being a conspiracy theory nut... but answer those questions... why no photo, why dump the body in the deepest part of the ocean and why are most of the seal team dead? I know.. all coincidence. After all who doesn't trust Obama? BTW, who is Obama? Does anyone have an answer to that question?

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#1.32 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:12 PM EST

How far do we let Iran go before they are stopped?

Brianb - Are you enlisting soon? Just can't wait to get us into another war can you? It must be killing you that GW isn't still in office.

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#1.33 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:18 PM EST

Brianb --

To counter: To hell with your liberalism and ability to deny that any of this exists. I heard the numbers on CNN today. I'm terribly sorry that it wasn't in print form... but CNN was explicit in their report. I searched their website and it wasn't on there. We might have to wait until later. Could it be that CNN was wrong? They are pretty liberal of course. Could be they lied... How apropos.

Did you hear any numbers on CNN in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq?

How quickly they forget.

Try this little bit of "liberal shilling" for example ....

http://articles.cnn.com/2002-10-07/politics/iraq.poll_1_new-poll-iraq-monday-night-americans-favor?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS

But the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll also finds that should that invasion get under way, approval would jump to almost three-quarters.

Or this --

http://articles.cnn.com/2002-09-08/politics/iraq.debate_1_nuclear-weapons-top-nuclear-scientists-aluminum-tubes?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS

Citing Bush administration officials, The New York Times reported Sunday that Iraq tried to buy thousands of high-strength aluminum tubes.

The tubes, Rice said, "are only really suited for nuclear weapons programs, centrifuge programs."

Enough "liberal" numbers from CNN for you, Brianb?

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#1.34 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:23 PM EST

420's anti-Semitic rant is just precious.

Tell me, how did we save Israel during World War II- when it did not exist at that time?

The ignorance of the Obama worshipping, anti-Semitic left is simply breathtaking.

Please keep posting- it does wonders to reveal just who is left in his cult.

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#1.35 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:25 PM EST

420 must be on your side Joe. He isn't well enough informed to be one of ours.

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#1.36 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:40 PM EST

Wayne -

Extremists exist on both sides of the spectrum, 420 reared his ugly head just enough to know he is liberal.

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#1.37 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:46 PM EST

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    #1.38 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:46 PM EST

    Like Chief Dan George said on the movie "Josey Wales" In reference to "give it more time" point of view "We thought about it for a long time, "Endeavor to persevere." And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union. »

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    #1.39 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:47 PM EST

    BrianB:

    You also hear the voice of god. I didn't and don't. Your hearing is suspect.

    As far as denying the intentions of Iran, I don't know how I could do that. I don't know what they are, nor do you.

    However, given your concern for the destruction of a nation, I direct you to fearless minority leader Mitch McConnell who wishes only for the defeat of President Obama, which he is trying to accomplish via his abuse of the filibuster. America be damned.

    I would further direct your attention to the esteemed silver-tongued one - Rush Limbaugh who hopes President Obama fails and is perfectly happy to see the nation's collapse as proof of failure.

    When we have had PUBLIC testimony from any number of sources, including the military, expressing their view that Iran's nuclear capability is several years out, at best, I am wont to discount CNN's report.

    Lastly, you tell us that CNN is liberal, and perhaps they lied. What does it say about you that your are only too happy to come here - hair aflame - and tell us that they are accurate? Man, you are a piece of work.

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    #1.40 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:55 PM EST

    David -

    Im not sure what you are referring to the Senate Repubs being able to fillibuster. Please elaborate?

      #1.41 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 6:00 PM EST

      Raff,

      It only takes 41 Senators to filibuster a bill thus not allowing it to come to the floor for a vote.

      In the 111th Congress the filibuster was used almost 3 times more than any other Congress in history.

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      #1.42 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 6:11 PM EST

      Dennis:

      Raff is trolling. He has the Rovian Rules for Reactionaries down cold.

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      #1.43 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 6:22 PM EST

      One thing for sure, Israel won't be as gullible as the American people at taking Obama at his word. When you say one thing today and completely contradict it tomorrow, no leader in the world will ever really trust Obama, and who can blame them.

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      #1.44 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 8:40 PM EST

      I don't think there is any credible evidence that Iran is trying to get a nuclear bomb (our own official intelligence estimates say they probably are not) but I wouldn't blame them if they were.

      It's the only way you have a even a half a chance of not being pushed around by bullies like the U.S, (and Israel) and our old colonial allies in western Europe.

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      #1.45 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:22 PM EST

      We cannot afford another war on the backs of the poor and middleclass. If those in power want war, they can get the money by taxing the top 1% 80%+. Its not like they aren't going to get that money back, considering all of this nonsense is really just for oil, covered by "nuclear power" wrapping paper.

        #1.46 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:24 AM EST

        While Iran’s nuclear aspirations are taking center stage this week, Obama also mentioned the ongoing conflict between Israel and their Palestinian neighbors, saying that he would discuss with Netanyahu the possibility of “a calmer set of discussions” between the two parties.

        Obama just doesn’t get it. You can’t have calmer discussions with someone who wants to wipe you off the face of the earth!

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        #1.47 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:31 AM EST

        Why stir things up..The only way to stop Iran is invade and that would piss everyone off ! In fact it could turn into a double triple quadruple pissed off....

          #1.48 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:51 AM EST

          In the recent public discussion about a possible pre-emptive attack on Iranian nuclear facilities, there has been a glaring silence about the fact that some of these Iranian targets *already* have nuclear materials (uranium) on-site.

          These Iranian sites are not like Osirak (1981 pre-emptive Israeli knockout of a newly constructed Iraqi power plant *before* this facility had nuclear materials on-site). In spite of this crucial difference, there has been virtually no apparent recognition of the implications that blowing up these Iranian facilities presents. Bunker busters, or the like, could well result in a dispersion of uranium into the ground level environment. Uranium is highly toxic and radioactive with a half-life of 4.5 billion years

          Destroying these 'uranium loaded' Iranian facilities might cause something equivalent to the so-called "dirty bomb”...a highly toxic dispersion of radioactive dust and debris in the immediate surface environment.

          As the leaders engage in discussions about the timetables for when pre-emptive destruction may become forced, why no public consideration and discussion about the implications resulting from these Iranian facilities already having uranium on-site?

            #1.49 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:09 AM EST

            David -

            All I did was ask for clarification on what you were saying, but you attack me instead. I should have known I couldnt have a civil debate with the likes of you.

              #1.50 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:27 AM EST

              Dennis -

              Thank you for the information. I understand that maybe some things were killed that may have helped, but is it too crazy to think that others were struck down that could have been disastrous? Im just asking you to look at the other side of the coin and understand where others are coming from. If it was John McCain in office, the liberals would be up in arms about everything he was passing as well.

                #1.51 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:31 AM EST

                Iran even if they do get weaponized uranium are not going to launch nukes are Israel. They gain nothing from doing so. What they want to be is a counterbalance to Israel in the region. Despite its size Israel is a regional super power due to its nuclear capabilities and advanced military. This luxury has allowed it to pretty much act with impunity within the region due to the fact that any hardened retaliation that actually caused Israel to feel threatened would result in nuclear response. It is loss of this status that Israel actually fears (and who can blame them). If Iran gets the same capability then it will be a mitigating factor. A stand off. In other words it creates a regional Cold War. Mutual destruction if either side steps too far.

                In addition despite all the rhetoric Iran doesn't want Israel to go away. Israel is ironically the best thing to happen to the various regional dictatorships and Theocracies. As long as Israel is there a ready made "boogie man" is present to blame everything on. Populace gets restless remind them of Israel and encourage them to direct their anger there.

                Lastly Iran isn't one of the "hillbilly" states of the region. They're educated, proud, and descendants of one the world's oldest civilizations. Persians while passionate and hot headed, love their culture. They know good and well that any offensive use of nuclear weapons would lead immediately to their total destruction. Remember while that those that lead terrorist organizations never blow themselves up. They just get the poor and ignorant to do that.

                Tehran likes keeping chaos up in the region by supporting terrorist groups and the like. They don't actually "believe" in any of this religious nonsense. Iran is simply following old world political tactics of keeping their neighbors off balance so as to enhance their own standing. This is a culture that developed along side the Geeks, Romans and Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantines) they were playing "the game" for centuries when most of the world was nothing more than small collections cattle and goat herders.

                Finally they know that if they actually took things to an extreme level their "friends" Russia and China are not going to lift a finger to help them. Russia and China like poking the bear (the US) by taking up for Iran. But those nations also don't really want to get into it with the US. China's economy is symbiotic with the US. And Russia can barely handle their own federation. Iran simply wants to retain their position as a power broker in the region a title that historically they've enjoyed. Pride is a major factor for them and they want to be the go to power if one wants to get things done in the Middle East.

                  #1.52 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:49 AM EST

                  Oh yeah, Iran only wants to be a counterbalance to Israel. I guess when they say they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth it was just talk. A nuke strike on Israel will cripple the world, and this is a region with those that could careless. There isn't a leader in the world that would take Obama at his word, and there isn't a leader in the Middle East that fears him either. Iran is stalling for time, and it will not be long before either Israel strikes, or we see the next nuclear Holocaust. Then everyone will see and feel the pain from the idiotic policies of our leaders in Washington.

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                  #1.53 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 10:26 AM EST

                  If you actually believe that Iran would risk assured destruction by trying to nuke Israel then I can't do anything for you. Iran wants to be a world power not a glass parking lot. They know, because everyone knows, no one wins a nuclear war. Maybe you forgot the Cold War?

                  As to Obama yeah I realize that those on the right for some reason just like assume that since Obama is a democrat he must by default be weak in foreign policy. However reality is that he has been much more effective (and I say this while disagreeing with many of his actions) in foreign policy than most other presidents in recent history. Reagan armed the Iranians, and do we even have to go into the Bush family? What limits America in this area isn't Obama or even the feckless GOP. Its treasure. We made our bid at ME regime change and we couldn't afford it. Also you and I both know that if Obama runs up another bill for military action the Right will crucify him. If he doesn't run up the bill and sits it out the Right will crucify him.

                  But really its all moot. Obama has shown a history of taking military action so he will likely do something if Iran presses the issue.

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                  #1.54 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 10:43 AM EST

                  Folks, whichever side of this issue you take, I fear that unless Iran decides to back down from it's nuclear ambitions (not likely), or to learn to live at peace with Israel (EXTREMELY unlikely) the only possible ending to this story is a bloody one. One poster in this thread suggested that Israel has many times more nuclear weapons than Iran might have, now or in the future, and that that fact ought to be effective enough of a deterrent. Unfortunately, Iran only needs one, maybe two well-placed nuclear weapons to utterly devastate Israel, the narrowest portion of which (if I remember correctly) can be overflown by jet in less than 7 minutes. I also theorize that the Iranian leadership just might be crazy enough to martyr their entire country if it meant destroying Israel first.

                  Ultimately it is Israel's decision to make as to whether or not they exercise the military option. They are the ones who are most at risk.

                    #1.55 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:26 PM EST

                    TorpedoYou said in reference to Mit Romney, "a man with NO foreign policy credentials who is more than willing to send my kids off to war while his are comfortably ensconced with their huge trust accounts".

                    Really man? I mean really? This sounds just like Obama to me. What were HIS foreign policy creds prior to becoming P.O.S. POTUS? That's right, the senator who always voted present! And before that a community organizer. Also you can bet your bottom dollar his daughters will never be wearing the uniform of our military.

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                    #1.56 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:00 PM EST
                    Reply

                    The president seems to be the only one with a cool head these days. We do not want to start a war with Iran, but you can bet your bottom dollar, if Romney or one of the other clueless, hotheaded morons gets into the White House, that will be #1 on their list.

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                    Reply#2 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:19 PM EST

                    Thank God for President Obama. He is the best choice at handing this situation with Iran. Those Republican folks running for President will preach from the peanut gallery, but we all know they don't have a clue.

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                    Reply#3 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:35 PM EST

                    True, True, True!!

                    OBAMA 2012

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                    #3.1 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:36 PM EST

                    Obama/Hiden 2012

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                      As Job 1 said, "thank God for President Obama". I heard President Obama's speech yesterday at AIPAC. It was nice to hear a real leader tamp down the drums of war being pounded by the GOP candidates these days. He urged everyone to allow more time for diplomacy and the sanctions to work. The Arab League is also working with the UN and White House on this effort. He also reminded everyone of all the times his administration has stood with Israel and as FR reports, he said all options are on the table but we should be aware of the consequences of military action. That's just good, common sense. One doesn't take anything off the table but bombing by Israel of Iran or by us will almost guarantee retaliation by Iran. I don't think anyone should be pushing the idea of war in a region that is undergoing historic change, however painful and bloody it seems. President Obama reiterated Teddy Roosevelt's "speak softly but carry a big stick" motto. From what I have heard and read, Netanyahu doesn't have the backing of a lot of his people to bomb Iran either.

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                      Reply#4 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:11 PM EST

                      Amen, Jody, Amen!

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                      #4.1 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:22 PM EST

                      Hotline to Tel Aviv? One hit on the Israeli early warning radar (we make great stuff) and EVERY Israeli will be for war. I know you know this...most citizens have military positions or civil defense positions. Most people in the US would be crapping their pants if they lived in some areas of that country.

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                      #4.2 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:48 PM EST
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                      It sounds more like an election talk ...

                      I would like to see him talk tough to nate too..

                        Reply#5 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:37 PM EST

                        Talk tough is that your answer to all problem of foreign matters. What sounds good to you means very little to other countries.

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                        #5.1 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:48 PM EST
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                        beachbum12Deleted

                        "Israel's alleged possession of nuclear weapons and its potential to set off an arms race in the Middle East were a source of concern to the Nixon administration in 1969, The New York Times reported Thursday, citing newly released documents.

                        "The Israelis.... are probably more likely than almost any other country to actually use their nuclear weapons," Henry Kissinger, who served as President Richard Nixon's national security adviser, warned in a July 19, 1969 memorandum.

                        The U.S. National Archives on Wednesday released documents from the Nixon Presidential Library, according to the Times report. By law, classified documents are to be reviewed for possible release after 25 years. The memoranda reveal the dilemmas with which the administration wrestled vis-a-vis Israel's nuclear weapons program, long considered to be a sore point in the U.S.-Israel alliance.

                        Moreover, it showed concern on the part of Kissinger that Israel may have systematically stolen material from the U.S. for its nuclear development." The neo-con press is SO absent of the fact both Thatcher and Reagan were against pre-emptive strikes. And that American presence near Iran is more about keeping Israel collared more than about Iran's doubtful aggression. Despite her support for Israel, and though Thatcher rejected the stridently pro-PLO stance of some members of her government, she believed Israel needed to trade land for peace, wishing in her memoirs that the “Israeli emphasis on the human rights of the Russian refuseniks was matched by proper appreciation of the plight of the landless and stateless Palestinians.” She also condemned Israel’s bombing of Osirak, Saddam Hussein’s nuclear reactor, in 1981. “[The Osirak attack] represents a grave breach of international law,” she said in an interview with London’s Jewish Chronicle in 1981. Israel’s bombing of another country could lead to “international anarchy.” And Didn't Ronald Reagan condemn Israel in 1981 when Israel attacked Iraq? I think Reagan said something about, "....the inalienable sovereign right of Iraq, and all other States, especially the developing countries, to establish a program of technological and nuclear development." In his STAR WARS Speech didn't Reagan say, 'We will never be the aggressor."? I'm looking for the first few Reagan Republicans to condemn the said planned attack against Iran. Betcha not one has the guts to make a stand for fear of being called an anti-something rather. Reagan and Thatcher have been betrayed. Let the cock crow three times. Even General David Petraeus told the Armed Services Committee 3/17/'10:'The enduring hostilities between Israel and some of its neighbors present distinct challenges to our ability to advance our interests in the AOR [area of operational responsibility]. Israeli-Palestinian tensions often flare into violence and large-scale armed confrontations. The conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel. Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples in the AOR and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world. Meanwhile, al-Qaeda and other militant groups exploit that anger to mobilize support. The conflict also gives Iran influence in the Arab world through its clients, Lebanese Hizballah and Hamas."

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                        Reply#7 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:48 PM EST

                        Poor hemorrhoid.

                        The U.S. used its veto on the Security Council to block sanctions against Israel for that same strike, and agreed to a resolution that said they should not have done that.

                        We also held back military aid to Israel as a consequence of that strike- for two whole months.

                        The anti-Semitism of the Obama cult does not surprise me- nor does the re-writing of history. The tin foils hats add a nice touch, though.

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                        #7.1 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 6:27 PM EST

                        Hey Joe, what is with the Obama "cult" line you keep rolling out? Why are you so mad and constantly hating on President Obama? Hope your not a racist. I am a 45 yo white male living in New Jersey and am very happy with job our president has done so far. I feel safe and comfortable with him running our country. A very intelligent, level headed man. I just picture GWBush in my head and it makes me ill...With those beady eyes, and his animated hand jestures when he spoke.. Just a sneaky man that sent us to war with Iraq that cost us thousands of American lives and god knows how many BILLIONS of dollars we wasted on that sencless war. Obama is doing the right thing right now by not letting Isreal drag us into another war. I cant stand Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and would love to see him and his "cult" crumble to their knees. The world is strangling that country with sanctions. Pretty much completely isolating Iran from the world. Nobody wants Iran to possess a nuke, even if they had one, Iran would cease to exist if they used it. Being president of the United States has to be the hardest job in the world. Just look at the before and after pictures of the presidents.. Major stress! I am comfortable with how Obama has handled foreign policy so far, and trust in his future decisions...

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                        #7.2 - Wed Mar 7, 2012 1:00 AM EST
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                        maybe the President should issue a preemptive apology to Iran?

                        at least it is an approach with which he is very familiar if not to successful.

                        or as an alternative, the next time Ahmadinejad speaks at the UN the President can meet him for discussions after first performing the appropriate submissive bow that he has perfected.

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                        Reply#8 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:49 PM EST

                        You are a moron. President Obama apologized for the idiotic behavior of some service members and to at the very least tamp down the flames. But the gop just likes to raise tensions and inflame at every chance. The morons on the right, none of which ever served in the military are always react first, then we'll deal with developing a plan later.

                        Mission Accomplished.. LMAO.. Ring a bell James?

                        Elect Newton, Willard or Slick Ricky Bobby, and WW3 will break out soon after.

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                        #8.1 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:51 PM EST

                        james-1937467

                        maybe the President should issue a preemptive apology to Iran?

                        at least it is an approach with which he is very familiar if not to successful.

                        As opposed to a president who got us into a war in Iraq not knowing the difference between a Kurd, a Sunni, and a Shia? By the way, I don't remember hearing GW's apology to the American people for his failure to get bin Laden.

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                        #8.2 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:24 PM EST

                        Yeah.......just like Slick Willy owes us an apology for letting him go? How about Ronald Reagan for arming and training him?

                        Well, maybe the latter is true but you know the saying, "Everything in hindsight is 20/20."

                          #8.3 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:36 AM EST
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                          I hope the meetings between Pres. Obama and PM Netayahou go well.

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                          Reply#9 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:51 PM EST

                          And what GOP president ended a war in your life time. President H.W. Bush was told to stop chase Sadamm. So when has the GOP ended the pandering bum12?

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                          Reply#10 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:52 PM EST

                          Lyndon Johnson (D) escalated the Vietnam War and was so hated that he didn't even run for re-election. Richard Nixon (R) ended the war.

                          Harry Truman (D) got us into the Korean War. Dwight Eisenhower (R) ended the war.

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                          #10.1 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:16 PM EST

                          George W. Bush (R) got us into war with Iraq under false pretenses and against the UN.

                          I can cherry pick too!

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                          #10.2 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:24 PM EST

                          Ruken,

                          I wasn't cherry picking. Gateway asked what GOP president ended a war in my life time. I answered that question. 266,000 American soldiers died because of the Democrats in the Vietnam War. 34,000 died in the Korean War in just three year.

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                          #10.3 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:31 PM EST

                          George W. Bush (R) got us into war with Iraq under false pretenses and against the UN.

                          Cherry picking is different from re-writing history. The Democrats were all for finishing the job in Iraq as early as when Bush Sr was in office. The "false pretenses" can be found on news clips on youtube by searching 'democrat wmd'.

                          The first and 2nd Gulf Wars were the first in U.S. history to start with a Republican in office. Cherry pick through those.

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                          #10.4 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:36 PM EST

                          October 11, 2002 -- The Senate early Friday voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq. Are you suggesting that not one of those 77 Senators did their own investigation before voting for war?

                          Would you agree it would be exceptionally irresponsible of them to have done that?

                          Are you suggesting that George W. Bush intimidated these Senators into authorizing the mission?

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                          #10.5 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:50 PM EST

                          @ james, where are the WMD's that Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rice promised the UN and the World? I doubt ANY sitting Senator does due diligence anymore before they vote. Especially the GOPers. Most can't read, let alone understand the ramifications of their actions.

                          Bush lied about 9-11 and those involved. Bush had a hand in some of the WTC towers coming down. What do the Pentagon and WTC towers have in common? NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING. SO why those 2 targets? Also "james" google video about the "supposed plane" hitting the pentagon. What a freaking joke. Not even close to a puddle jumper size plane, and we are expected to believe it was a jumbo-jet? I can see a planes tail section from about 10 miles away in the air, yet remarkably you can't see anything remotely close to a planes tail in the video footage.

                          The GOP don't have the balls to fix Americas problem, their answer is, lets invade other nations, that'll make America better. BS. Under Bush, America went from a budget surplus to massive deficits. Massive unemployment. The most failed companies under 1 President since the great depression, it started with Enron.. Yeah the GOP know whats best for America!

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                          #10.6 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:58 PM EST

                          Holy hell...... you need help.

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                          #10.7 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 6:56 PM EST
                          beachbum12Deleted

                          @Road Warrior-252445

                          You do know that the first "advisers" entered Vietnam during the Eisenhower administration don't you? This mess started in the early 50's and festered for quite a few years before it blew up. It will go down in history as one of the biggest diplomatic blunders in this countries history. Any number of administrations and people had an active hand in this cluster. To blame just the Democrats is quite frankly, not very bright.

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                          #10.9 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 9:23 PM EST
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                          Why doesn't Obama do what Helen Thomas did? Because in an election year, you drill baby drill and kiss up to Israel. Once you are re-elected, then you can tell the Jews to go home and put the drilling moratorium back in.

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                          Reply#11 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:10 PM EST

                          Only thing,,,this puke will not get re-elected! He will go down by at least 10% and democraps will lose the senate also!

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                          #11.1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:15 AM EST
                          Lonnie Tennantvia FacebookDeleted
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                          Yea let's all get mad at Obama for talking to other countries instead of skipping right to the invasion.

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                          Reply#12 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:10 PM EST

                          You do realize the U.N. inspectors were in Iraq since 1991 when the first Gulf War ended, right? If that's skipping right to the invasion, explain Obama's missile strikes on Iran last year.

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                          #12.1 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:39 PM EST

                          Ruken---you forget that to the RWNJs it has nothing to do with saving American lives or money but everything to do with ego.

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                          #12.2 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:39 PM EST

                          Allen-968499

                          You do realize the U.N. inspectors were in Iraq since 1991 when the first Gulf War ended, right?

                          Exactly...and then the Bush Administration utterly discredited them. Then we got the "aluminum tubes" and the "yellow cake uranium", both of which were bogus.

                            #12.3 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:36 PM EST

                            And those pictures of Iranian and kurd women and children stricken by various biological agents. All fake I bet!

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                            #12.4 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 7:00 PM EST

                            Yeah, Saddam was the picture perfect leader. No, no, no....he didnt use mustard gas on his own people....no, no, no. Deny, deny all you want, it doesnt make it go away or make it so it didnt happen.

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                            #12.5 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:42 AM EST
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                            "Well, I think Iran continues to be a threat to some of its neighbors in the region, so they're still funding Hamas, they're still funding Hezbollah, and those are things we have to be concerned about. But it is absolutely clear that this administration and President Bush continues to not let facts get in the way of his ideology. And that's been the problem with their foreign policy generally. They should have stopped the saber-rattling, should have never started it, and they need now to aggressively move on the diplomatic front.

                            I have said consistently since the beginning of this campaign that it is important for the president to lead diplomatic efforts, to try to offer to Iran the prospect of joining the World Trade Organization, potential normalized relations over time, in exchange for changes in behavior. That's something that has to be pursued." - Barack Obama Dec 2007

                            "America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements." - Obama to U.N. General Assembly Sept 2009

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                            Reply#13 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:28 PM EST

                            unbreakable bond my foot......:/

                              Reply#14 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:28 PM EST

                              Boy ole boy, these Republicans folks make no sense at all.

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                              Reply#15 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:29 PM EST
                              beachbum12Deleted

                              ....be very careful Netanyahu......Obama had Mubarak's back too.......see what happened to him......

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                              Reply#17 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:29 PM EST

                              So, you'd like to see Mubarak back in power??

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                              #17.1 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:34 PM EST

                              .....he is better than the Muslim Brotherhood.....they are currently destroying Eygypt......

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                              #17.2 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:37 PM EST
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                              If one could believe in what Obama says, but, as with most of Obama's speechs, it lacks substance. His words ring hollow except to those who worship at his feet. Action is not in the President's vocabulary unless it revolves around fund raising for his re-election. The leader's in Iran not only believe but know that Obama will do nothing.

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                              Reply#18 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:30 PM EST

                              And why is that Gary, because he hasn't invaded 2 countries yet? Did he receive funds for executing the order to get bin Laden? Did I miss something? You of course remember GW Bush's "Wanted, dead or alive" poster comment. How long was it before he was "not that concerned"? It seems like that would be an example of vocabulary being the only action.

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                              #18.1 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:52 PM EST

                              Well Gary looks like you enjoyed GOP idiots Romney Santorum Gingrich speeches , and they really make sense!! for someone like you. .You talking about Obama vocabulary, lacks substance? You are brainwashed by stupiditi of GOP clowns. None of them make any sense just great comedy for SNL. By the way I bet you know who is Putin or maybe not. Thanks God we have Obama now.!!! You think that Putin will support Jews? Go back to 2000-2008 and read if you can understand anything. Remember when Putin met with Obama? and years ago with clown Bush.

                                #18.2 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 10:00 PM EST

                                Wow Maryla, just wow. Far be it from you to call someone else an idiot with your terrible grammar and spelling. Sheesh, public school failed you, bad!

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                                #18.3 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:45 AM EST
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                                Hi everyone - such incredible discourse. Nuclear weapons are good - unless you don't have one. Then your opinion is different. We rightly don't won't just any old body having them as one nuclear weapon in the wrong hands is one too many. Israel is a sovereign nation as is Iran, but I beleive we probably have a better feel for how Israel is likely to act (with nuclear weapons) opposed to Iran so better bet is to stick with what we know opposed to guessing and getting it wrong like we did in deciding to go with Castro.

                                  Reply#19 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:31 PM EST
                                  beachbum12Deleted
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                                  What has Israel done for the USA that we should feel so indebted to them?

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                                  Reply#20 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:39 PM EST

                                  I guarantee, if Obama gets a second term, Iran will get a nuke.

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                                  Reply#21 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:40 PM EST

                                  Has anyone out there EVER read Fair Trade from The Book of Six Strategies? Nuff said.

                                    Reply#22 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:45 PM EST

                                    "The president has wisely said that this is not the time for saber rattling. All it does is heat up an already volatile situation, thus raising oil prices and therefore aiding Iran. Put the saber down"

                                    So that's why he trotted his SecDef out a few weeks ago to say Isreal was going to attack Iran in a month or two?

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                                    Reply#23 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:47 PM EST

                                    The problem with saying you are not bluffing is that it takes that set of tools out of your hand...not wise IMO.

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                                    Reply#24 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:57 PM EST

                                    Behind closed doors OBY would bow to and kneel before the Iranian nut job and then serve him tea.

                                    "Speak softly and carry a big stick." Talking time is done.

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                                    Reply#25 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:19 PM EST

                                    2008 CRC 1993 Office of AG in IL

                                    ...Because today is my last day Hu and anyone that tells Americans the truth about their sadistic government simply gets ganged up on buy our extraordinary organism fed by pure ignorance and fear because there is no society on the face of the Earth -even through the materialization of the most extraordinary powers-that dismisses exponentially obvious orchestration and organic sickness as pure circumstance and a normal way of life the longer they have the same murder program running through their own head causing the outcome they are seeing and contributing to justifying the the most pointless and horrific suffering known to man under pretext of saving their sorry as reputations and the items that matter least to every American if they knew the truth about everything...

                                    ...Because my walkabout started over five years ago HU when I got sucker punched so hard from no where -a punch that most people would not survive-because someone claimed I had a potential of threat to an interest without one significant fact to justify my political a ssassination because may others -possible thousands-where baked from the inside out and had their lives destroyed without ever knowing what was driving it under cover of ensuring the smallest measure of security by inversely exponential criminal and destructive activity.

                                    ...With an extraordinary process under my feet -with swirling no clue DOD as sniffer thinking they are demonstrating their innocence but unknowingly tipping TIs toward destruction and loosing their human rights for life to secure the activity so Poet could stay ahead of the dangerous mic and save gay rights, I watched one family member from one side of my family get destroyed overseas after a vaccination (still under shameful George and after the deepest spectrum of stellar wind conclusively determined my innocence as the only way to outflank it and keep this premeditated murder moving forward)....

                                    ...And probably under cover of having the family probe each other but exclusively to accumulate as much horrific and pointless consequence with premeditated fist degree murder being the best hedge to preserve the perception of rule of law through a transfer of power to ensure full blown far criminals do not get a lethal injection under false cover of national interests well outside of even ensuring the smallest measure of security from anything but humanities most shameful attempt to re-write history...

                                    ...And the FBI story line of keeping me safe from the bad guys and lower gas prices still being used as pretext to keep the effort moving forward at home because when you have a standard lower than Saudi Arabia to keep the dangerous mic off your back and save gay rights (in this case keep the war on TEOWOW a political tool) but you need to force the perception of rule of law to hold -since that is the false but general theme that keeps the DOD no clue as sniffers living with themselves after what they lost and were forced and contribute to- than maintaining that false comfort that only benefits our political t rash becomes every American's greatest liability...

                                    ...On the other side of the family was a grandmother than sustained an injury equivalent to a ucking creep throwing a brick at her head to feed a false profile while I was being baked from the inside out for years while collapsing society in all directions ahead of each comment I was forced to make to secure each statement but when the effort to shield the activity caused its presence to gain traction Poet simply created another imaginary power behind executive privilege and a society that thought it could not fall farther was back in free fall...

                                    ...The family of United States citizens that was spun for years and suffered through the most bizarre organic illnesses so they could be numb enough to absorb absolutely anything year after year had to be prepped for Obama's nuclear naro authority...

                                    ...The bizarre illnesses only increased as a father passed away from the most bizarre chain of medical events (which he suffered horrifically through compounded by the fact I am certain we has suspended in an artificial -but organic state-which I am certain contributed to this synchronized chain of events)

                                    ...Basically the slaughter of another innocent citizen around the original innocent citizen to deepen and widen what the original innocent citizen could not disprove to even allow repulsive Jews to handle organized crime to destroy the only proof this democracy collapsing effort was a war crime-that was triggered for no reason-from start to brutal finish...

                                    ...Along with this death, immediately after this nuclear naro authority passed a brother that started to collapse at work with no previous history just before my father passed away and right before what I am certain was a much more horrific operation the jews were handling failed...

                                    ...Also an extended family member that started to be treated for one bizarre and debilitating illness right after this effort started over five years only to pass away in the weeks after this authority passed finding out she was "miss" diagnosed right before her death...and she suffered horrifically...

                                    ...Basically Hu, the most sulfur wreaking perversion on the face of the Earth where life and its meaning has no value and where the entire nation has no cause law (below Saudi standards) running along its entire bottom with North Korean destruction running over its entire top to ensure deniability for the methods that collapsed a democracy and way of life...

                                    ...And not even ensuring the smallest measure of security from the lowest threat to life but exclusively so the lethal and horrific force within this extraordinary organism can be used to maintain a perception so Poet can avoid the death penalty while staying ahead of what the Jews were feeding the dangerous mic's organism...

                                    ...All the while the ignorance in free fall Poet's extraordinary organism caused only increases -not decreases- how the dangerous mic's ordinary organism can exploit this hardening North Korean dictatorship where "interests" is the latest code and fad for I need the powers of a dictator with a standard far lower -with destruction more brutal because it needs to be organic- because I do not know what I am doing or how to stay ahead of what dangerous mic is being fed as the alternate reality of saving their sorry as reputations failed and is starting to erode the quality of life of 320,000,000 on the surface with our core long gone...

                                    ...You are looking at one of the most cowardly and pathetic civilizations on the face of the Earth HU who's timid and frightened culture -that is driven by saving their sorry as compromised reputations rather than ending the most brutal and pointless suffering the world over -would make a normal child sick....

                                    ...Because I should not have had to have taken one step in proving my innocence HU if our perception is real and there can not be any personal consequence outside a court of law. But the farther I was forced to walk toward the truth the more I discovered our perception is nothing more than the most dangerous and hollow illusion on the face of the earth held together by the most cowardly and pathetic culture that would rather destroy innocent citizens and gut the core of this nation than have their sorry as and compromised reputations tarnished. Because even as the most extraordinary powers started to materialize the closer I got to the truth the harder the reality of this upside down perversion started to fall on me and justice was the most dangerous mirage of them all while the truth I discovered was quite real and should be the most important thing to everyone in a normal society...well...because it is sort of the ultimate judge...

                                    ....Within your rock solid military environments the only thing the coast is
                                    clear for is the organized crime the repulsive J ews handle..You have a
                                    strange way of earning respect war criminal and traitor just keeping
                                    your fingers crossed biting your nails you p athetic animal...

                                    Because the extraordinary organism you collapsed society and all meaning of this nation creating to hold together the simplest economic theories and advances on gay rights bull ship to stay ahead of the dangerous mic still fails because they just exploit the ignorance in free fall your extraordinary organism continues to cause.........

                                    This is after you re-defined over 200 years of rule of law based on guilt or innocence into a society where every single citizen is a potential threat from birth that you can unleash your military power against if they refuse to join the growing ranks of other citizens that either add to or suppress the destruction of those behind them that refused to do the same to them with rule of law turned into the thinnest tin foil so no two people can speak of the most shameful activity known to man.........

                                    A society where every single United states citizen is held to a standard lower than Saudi Arabia- any potential of threat to any interest touched with the accumulated and pointless consequence of our global pile of ship with no cause law running along the bottom of this entire nation -with punishment more brutal than that of North Korea running over the top of this entire nation where the destruction of anyone touched by our global pile of ship has to be organically destroyed with the potential enemies and no clue as sniffers they know swirling around them to secure the destruction on your behalf, and all this not even to ensure the smallest measure of security from the very lowest threat to life........

                                    And then once you collapsed enough of society at home trying to secure every statement I was forced to make for your criminal defense you simply aligned our compromised fat as profiteering pucks with adding as much risk along the plains of negative and no reality as possible under false pretext of ensuring the smallest measure of certainty but actually unleashing a destructive bull whip across the world your compromised fat pucks have to cement over as you blame the republicans for exploiting the dangerous ignorance your extraordinary organism created trying to stay ahead of the dangerous mic to save gay rights...

                                    This as you collapsed the core of everything this nation stood for until your alternate reality-exclusively for your criminal defense- broke down and bubbled up in the form of a lower quality of life for every single one of 320,000,000 US citizens not directly touched by your war time investigations/neutralizations to stay ahead of the dangerous mic so our fat as POWs can profit from you being more right than wrong on social issues in our deepening decay...

                                    And after you gutted enough of this nation's soul to bring us well below Saudi Arabia; to enforce the perception of rule of law to avoid a lethal injection -you simply created another unacknowledged power to parallel your unacknowledged program where the nuclear n arco authority you made up behind executive privilege gets to s laughter not just the potential of threats to any interest but anyone around them whose d estruction could deepen and broaden what the original targets could not conclusively disprove to keep your operations moving forward and so the r epulsive j ews could then insert the wost of man and organized crime to protect their only interest of keeping as us ignorant and dangerous as possible as the world gets reformatted multiple times so our media and political t rash can keep feeding the destruction of as many United States citizens as possible t save their sorry as and worthless characters feeding us what matters least in our lives if we know the truth about everything...

                                    So basically you twisted, strange, perverted ucking child like piece or ship, in the land of reality you brought us lower than any dictatorship on the face of the Earth-where not just the most brutal destruction of any United States citizen that posses any potential of threat to any interest without regard to guilt or innocence -is authorized with the forced hand of those around them so you can stay ahead of what the J ews are feeding the dangerous mic and save gay rights, but the actual and horrific -because it needs to look organic-s laughter of those around them with your nuclear naro authority (bringing the Saudi floor lower and North Korean ceiling higher to save our rule of law perception) in order to deepen and broaden what the target can not conclusively disprove via premeditated first degree m urders of the most horrific and pointless kind. But not only so you can develop plausible excuses for why there are no results but so you can create the pretexts out of thin air for organized crime of the worst kind -that the r epulsive J ews handle-to come in and destroy the only proof that this was a war crime of the most pointless and horrific kind from start to finish...still all under cover of keeping me safe from the puckin bad guy JEW...

                                    And all this utter destruction which occurred for a criminal defense, under false and flimsy cover the smallest measure of certainty in regards to our national (special) interests aligned with the compromised reputations of our media and political t rash looking the other way and actually interlacing the most horrific m urders of una rmed and innocent citizens with their scripts adding as much risk and possible to the plain of negative and no reality to justify this criminal effort accelerating in this nation as its core imploded until -on one side of the coin- that alternate reality breaks down and on the surface and across 320,000,000 citizens a lower quality of life because of my media and political t rash and on the other side - in the core- to save the reputation of rule of law so the biggest piece of t rash in human history does not get a l ethal injection -the s laughter of innocent citizens -around other innocent citizens that President called a potential threat to any interest to stay ahead of the ship the JEWS were feeding the dangerous mic to save gay rights- so the rotation of what the original target could not conclusively disprove could rotate farther and wider and to even create the pretexts out of thin air for the worst forms of organized crime to come it to save our reputation of justice and rule of law along with his character and life...

                                    There is a special place in h ell for people like you so I wish you a
                                    long life cause I caught just a glimpse into what this power could do

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                                    Reply#26 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:21 PM EST

                                    Why exactly is a Jewish population of less than three percent of the US determining policy for 300 million Americans and putting them at risk?

                                      Reply#27 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:32 PM EST

                                      Because John, about half of those 300 million Americans are so uneducated or religiously indoctrinated that they have no understanding of the rhetoric that is pounding them every day by the politicians and media.

                                      We generally fail to teach our children critical thinking, thus the present problems.

                                        #27.1 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:37 PM EST

                                        Do you liberal morons really think letting Iran develop nuclear weapons is a good idea? I think the educated are the ones on the right and the "drones" are on the left. I guess you'll get it when Israel is wiped off the face of the earth and radical Islam starts World War 3.

                                        BTW-We teach our children how to put a condom on, boys how to be more like girls and why we should embrace different lifestyles. Our education system has been one big brainwash by the left. Ask a kid if he ever studied the Constitution, how to write his name in cursive or multiply double digit numbers and you'll see what I mean. Education shouldn't be political but our schools are overrun with activists.

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                                        #27.2 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 6:08 PM EST

                                        lukewarm

                                        Excellent post ! Spot on !!!

                                          #27.3 - Mon Mar 5, 2012 8:58 PM EST

                                          lukewarm

                                          Just so you know, I am not liberal, nor a moron. And if you haven't noticed, we are the ones starting WWIII, especially since both Russia and China oppose us in regards to Iran.

                                            #27.4 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 12:47 AM EST
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