Here's some fabulous Friday fodder. Ruminate on this over the weekend. This is a clip from FOX that is the visual and audio equivalent of a smack upside the head with a two-by-four.

FOX has given us some serious food for thought, but of course, for all the wrong reasons. Their world-class insipid shill, Steve Doocy is determined to put the Fox spin on this interview. Needless to say, he is as ignorant as the students who are highlighted in this piece.

Prepare to be floored: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=VxHfYNTrnic

Mind you, the featured students are sophomores and have little in the way of real-world experience. However, while Doocy desperately wants to blame this on some sort of liberal failure, he couldn't be more off the mark. The professor politely disabuses him, but is himself off the mark, when he points to public education as the culprit.

Please keep in mind, a child's primary learning occurs in two fairly clearly delineated time periods. The first occurs from birth to about the age of five. The primary teachers during that period are PARENTS. Public education is not even in the picture yet. The second period obviously begins at the end of the first and continues approximately to the age of 12. After that, it's about adding to the basics the kids have learned. There it is.

The failure to educate clearly is in the home. Not the schools. It is not to be laid at the feet of incompetent school teachers and their evil unions. It's not some overarching liberal government conspiracy.

During a school year, a student will be with a teacher about one in every eight to ten hours. That's it. The rest of the time, 80-90% is spent with parents or their guardians. The kids may not be with their parents, but where those kids are is certainly the responsibility of the parents.

So, where do you suppose these kids get this sense of entitlement? Where do you suppose these kids learned that they aren't responsible for their lives? Why do you suppose they think there really is a free lunch? Why do you suppose there is still such a huge group in our population that thinks a god is the answer to everything they can't figure out?

Where is that "traditional family" we keep hearing about?

It's good to be the incumbent president

Well it worked for man we aren't supposed to mention back in '04.

GOP state party snafus all have benefited Romney

Shocking! That goes to show what money can buy and just how desperate the GOP is.

Obama/Biden 2012

*** GOP state party snafus all have benefited Romney:

This is the warm up act!

So far, these clowns have managed to screw up every single primary/caucus.

Yet, they are the ones screaming about voter fraud...

Just WAIT until we get to November...

Feisty, Good Morning, the silence so far is deafening.....the women are waiting and watching. Tick Tock guys. Who will be the man or woman in the republican party who will stand up for the women of this country? Who amongst you will take a stand against Rush. Courage is all it takes.

Feisty, Good Morning, the silence so far is deafening.....

Sadly, I'm afraid it will continue - these pigs will not bite the hand that feeds them!

I can't believe that POS is still on the air!

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Outhouse: Ain't capitalism great!!!!

Joe,

[Just think how much better off America would be if Barry devoted as much time to actually doing the work of being the President as he does being the Campaigner in Chief.]

First – No matter where our President is he is seconds away from world-wide communications. In other words it does not keep him from doing his duties as President.

Second – Presidents do not make law, Congress does and they spend 1 of every 3 weeks away from where legislation is debated and voted on.

What has happened to MSNBC?!?! There was a time I both valued and enjoyed the Chris Matthews show and others, but in the last few years it has gone so far left that it scares me. I loved the days of Tim Russert, a true journalist who never took sides and reported the news and asked the tough questions. You were sure when tuned in on Sunday mornings for "Meet The Press" you would get fair and balanced reporting. David Gregory does try and does ask the tough questions but its hard to become neutral when you came from the left and try to be in the center. Now these shows like O'Donald, Maddow, Matthews, and the preacher, I mean really, there was a time when no one would touch Sharpton, now MSNBC should simply changes it call signal to OBAMA 2012 re-election headquarters. MSNBC is as bad as FOX far right - far left, what happen to reporting the news and keeping your personal opinions to yourself, you never knew who Tim Russert was voting for, it almost makes Oberman's firing a farce, the only difference with Oberman was he made his support public with donations, MSNBC makes its postion public funding airtime for Obama. I am appalled!

Backhouse, well said. Republicans simply fear change in whatever form it takes. What they should fear is what happens when the oil is gone and if the US fails to research for and find renewable, clean, alternative energy sources to replace it. China is spending millions on solar, wind energy for their future use as well as with the intent to manufacture the results of their investment to the rest of the world while the GOP sits on its backside and whines about Solyndra.

David Walker, informative and thoughtful post, well done. I concluded years ago that the GOP uses teachers as an excuse to demonize unions even though the facts have never supported their claims.

Sadly, I'm afraid it will continue - these pigs will not bite the hand that feeds them!

I can't believe that POS is still on the air!

I don't understand why you flaming liberals hate the First Amendment so much.....what has the First Amendment ever done to you???

In accordance with the "If A, If B, Then C" of logical arguments:

A. It takes courage to admit you've made a mistake.

B. Limbaugh is a coward.

C. Therefore, Limbaugh will not apologize.

Feisty: This morning, it was announced that one sponsor, Sleep Train, has pulled its advertising from Windbag's show. There will be more. It is at long last time to boycott ANYONE who sponsors Limbaugh. Will be writing about this later, need to get outside.

David -- Why is it that those complaining fail to recognize they are part of the problem? It most definately is a parent's responsibility to make sure their children are ready to enter school. It's also their responsibility to make sure they stay on a path that leads to a successful outcome. Thanks for telling the truth.

So, where do you suppose these kids get this sense of entitlement? Where do you suppose these kids learned that they aren't responsible for their lives? Why do you suppose they think there really is a free lunch?

-David Walker, a lefty liberal's lefty liberal

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Another stunning example of why I love MSDNC and FR:

The oblivious and unintended comedy they consistently provide!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

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This is what Albany says when he has nothing to contribute--which is almost always.

Feisty---how sad that NO ONE from the Republican party has denounced Rush Limbaugh's rant. Not even someone who is retiring or retired, let alone a current officeholder or candidate. What a profile in courage is the Republican party.

Dennis:

First – No matter where our President is he is seconds away from world-wide communications. In other words it does not keep him from doing his duties as President.

It's not a matter of access, it's a matter of giving attention to the problems. The only attention Obama is providing for is his re-election. Need I remind you that the president is the COO of this country. His attention is being diverted away from matters of state while he is focusing solely on winning an election... and he has been doing this for almost a year now.

Second – Presidents do not make law, Congress does and they spend 1 of every 3 weeks away from where legislation is debated and voted on.

Congress have home district offices. They work from those offices while they are in their districts. Just because they aren't in Washington, doesn't mean they aren't working. I don't really understand your point Dennis... The president's duties are different than congresses. It's the president the comment was focused on. This president spends most of his time campaigning. He has been since Jan 20th 2009.

Jody,

GOP is clearly afraid of change, as you say. The corporations see change as risky, but if we are going to win in the long term, we have to be willing to re-tool and Change. Just like Obama insisted with the Auto companies and it worked.

Reported that China is sinking $millions into solar energy. They know a lot of it won't work out, but in the long run they'll win the global competition by being strategically positioned.

I sometimes tune into MSNBC in the evening and try as hard as I can to watch those far left loons. So why the hell do you far lefties here have to repeat the last nights shows all the time? We have all heard the lie "Republicans hate womwen", "Rush Limbaugh is a moron", "Santorum wants to get rid of birth control". Those are all lies and the majority of Americans don't even listen to them. MSNBC has such poor ratings that I believe the only people who watch the evening shows end up here the next day and spew the same stuff to the same people. It's fun to watch the circle jerks.

Go ahead and show your courage libs. Collapse this.

Hey Joe - are we having Sockeye Salmon today?

First – No matter where our President is he is seconds away from world-wide communications. In other words it does not keep him from doing his duties as President.

Second – Presidents do not make law, Congress does and they spend 1 of every 3 weeks away from where legislation is debated and voted on.

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So Dennis, your big point is that if Barry was interrupted during his full-time canpaigning, he could telephone in and do the job he was elected to do??? Weak argument, even for a lefty liberal. Past Presidents have sent their own legislative proposals up to Congress to work on. Barry sits in the WH waiting for Congress to send him bills to sign for a photo op. Maybe if Barry were to spend a bit more time on being the President, he could send Congress some legislation to keep them busy.

BTW, when was the last time Harry Reid and the majority Dems in the Senate worked on a federal budget?? Seems like over three years ago to me.

Feisty, GBM -- That is one sick individual! After reading the article and reading some of the posts on that thread I was sickened! Words of advice to women everywhere......before you date a man ask him if he tunes in to Rush on the radio. If he does then you would be best served by dumping him. Anyone following this guy needs their head examined.

Liberals have a hard time understanding the humor behind absurdity. Limbaugh thrives in the use of absurd statements. Liberals take Limbaugh way too seriously and will attack him at every corner... why? because Limbaugh stands for the right. What else is new? They also do the same thing to any right wing personality. I can list the commentators the left hates... Limbaugh, Hannity, Colter, Levin, Savage, Malkin, Beck... need I mention all of them? If they are on the right, the left hates them and have no problem expressing that hate. As far as left wing commentators... they can say what they want with no problem from me... There's this little thing we have in this society... it's called freedom of speech... I think the left forgets that all the time.

Feisty, that SO needed to be said, thanks.

The GOP/Rove strategy when threatened, is to assassinate & belittle the subject who is making the argument. And then change the subject.

There is a reason the nation is enraged with hatred, it is the Democratic Party agenda for victory.

You want to know why this nation is filled with hatred, take a look in a mirror.

Hate Limbaugh? I don't hate Limbaugh. I have no use, however, for people who make up their own facts, people who demagogue, people who publicly attack people who do not have a means of fighting back, people who get their jollies by denigrating others so they can get a rating. That's why I don't watch Rush, because he's a hateful idiot, not because I hate him myself. He's not worth the effort or energy to hate.

BB,

You are wrong. Plain and simple. That girl (or any female) does not deserve the treatment that a public figure like Rush is showering upon her. How would you feel if was against a female member of your family? This isn't, at least to me & hubby (we have a daughter), a matter of left or right, but a matter of common decency. And ALL decent men should be offended by Mr. Limbaugh's actions - no matter which side of the political divide you are on.

Oh, and Michael1969, one word for you - FUBAR!!! :)

Why am I not surprised that all the Rush Limpballs apologists around here are MEN...?

I feel sorry for the women in your miserable misogynist world's!

You can twist yourself into a human pretzel as far as I'm concerned... you are not fooling anyone!

David, I wanted to fall out of my chair laughing. I couldnt agree more that parents have the primary responsibility for their children's education but when you asked the questions where these kids get the sense of entitlement, free lunch or arent responsible--do you even get the irony? Do you not see what the progressive agenda is? Just look at the controversy over getting free contraceptives for women? The who liberal agenda is about its not your fault its someone elses. We bail out the banks, GM, the unions, homeowners because there is no sense of personal responsibility or accountability. Who is leading this movement in which the government will solve everything for you and pay for everything by taking from one segment of society and giving to another including the very wealthy our seniors? Given your past style of trying to be somewhat satirical I thought maybe you actually were poking fun at your own liberal base but I cant believe that to be true so I think you were serious but correct me if I am wrong.

I don't understand why you flaming liberals hate the First Amendment so much.....what has the First Amendment ever done to you???

Actually, we love the First Amendment are we are enforcing it. Sadly, the Radical Right is trying to force their views on the women in America and we will never let that happen again.

David Walker - Thank you for an enlightening post. It's so much easier to blame someone else than take responsibility for your child.(and that seems to cross all political lines - you didn't have this before WW2 and the baby boomers)

Joe in Albany - I agree with you and George Will - I think a lot of the Republican hierarchy feel the same. If most conservatives would read George Will than some of these right wing fanatics the Republican party would not be in this position

New Dawn - good to hear that sponsors for Rush's show are finally realizing women are a potent constituency - both politically and as a consumer - latest war on women's rights - Santorum states that tampons promote sexual behavior/ WI Grothman proposes bill that labels single parenthood as child abuse. If this continues the way it is going,not only will this effect the Republican's chances for the White House, but it will effect how women(and the men who love them) vote in House and Senate races. George Will, better talk some sense into these people.

Michael lotsanumbers:

Your criticism might have some validity if you could show a leftward tilt to news reportage at MSNBC. The fact is, Lawrence O'Donnell admits to having a socialist orientation. Rachel Maddow admits to being a liberal. Chris Matthews is somewhat conservative and somewhat liberal. Al Sharpton is liberal. None of them hide that fact.

Indeed, they hide no facts. If you could demonstrate that they are putting out misinformation or outright disinformation as does FOX, your complaint would have substance. You are complaining about opinion, no more and no less.

Over the last few days, I have watched FOX, and the amount of outright lies is stunning. I am more than happy to provide an example. A FOX shill, masquerading as a financial guru, was speaking with Greta Van Susteren on her show on Wednesday. In the screed she was directing at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, this woman flatly stated that both agencies had approved NINJA loans.

I am not here to defend Fannie and Freddie. They were a disaster in the fiduciary responsibility department. However, neither originated NINJA loans, or any loans for that matter. That's a fact. They are second-tier players. Period. Those loans came from the vaunted "free enterprise" sector, but of course, that runs counter to the FOX narrative. So, they lie.

This crap goes on night after night after night. That simply doesn't happen at MSNBC.

Why am I not surprised that all the Rush Limpballs apologists around here are MEN...?

Feisty, they are not men, I am a man and I know. They live in hope to be tea-bagged by Rusho's Limpballs.

Reported that China is sinking $millions into solar energy. They know a lot of it won't work out, but in the long run they'll win the global competition by being strategically positioned.

Just like their high-speed rail system?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9095729/Chinas-high-speed-rail-project-runs-out-of-steam.html

Just like the Germans sank millions into solar?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/project_syndicate/2012/02/why_germany_is_phasing_out_its_solar_power_subsidies_.html

BrianB,

There's this little thing we have in this society... it's called freedom of speech... I think the left forgets that all the time.

It's not a question of free speech. If you were an intelligent person, I would merely dismiss your post as an attempt at provocation. But since you seem not to have an intelligent bone in your body, I'm not going to take the time to explain what our objections are.

Michael1969,

Fubar. (And FYI, you are a pig and a creep, you are the saddest excuse for a man - and I use the word man loosely - I have ever encountered)

FUBAR, Michael1969 - you pig!

phancy said: BB, You are wrong. Plain and simple. That girl (or any female) does not deserve the treatment that a public figure like Rush is showering upon her. How would you feel if was against a female member of your family? This isn't, at least to me & hubby (we have a daughter), a matter of left or right, but a matter of common decency. And ALL decent men should be offended by Mr. Limbaugh's actions - no matter which side of the political divide you are on.

Good morning phancy. I hope you had a wonderful week and are looking forward to an even better weekend.

If the conversation between Limbaugh and the young college student wasn't actually listened to by people, and they are commenting solely on the fact that it occurred on Limbaugh's show, I believe any observation regarding that conversation to be completely inaccurate. In otherwords if it wasn't actually witnessed or heard by those making commentary, it's based in bias.

If a person doesn't actually understand the sthick of Limbaugh and how he approaches those that attack him from the left, again it's biased. I personally didn't listen to that segment of his show. I haven't actually listened to him in a couple of months. I do know his style and most of it is absurd. He uses absurd methods to demonstrate his points. Most of these are taken out of context and the meanings are never fully explained when pointed out by the left. It's happened thousands of times.

Because this is being publicized and taken to gargantuan proportions, I'd be very leery of who is doing the reporting on it. Something's missing from it... especially if it's coming from the left wing media. I am very aware of the history of such reporting.

I'm not making excuses for him... but I do know how things get way overblown on things he says that are inaccurate. Since I didn't listen to the segment, I am limited to pointing out the norm in reporting what he says by the left.

phine: I agree with you. But, IGNORE. He relishes the attention.

Alan, you forgot Spain- which finally figured out that, since each "green" job drove seven out of their economy, they were, kind of, dealing with an economic disaster.

Too bad Obama does not learn from mistakes. Nope. Not him. On the other hand, you have to be able to admit to mistakes. Not his strong suit.

I'd be very leery of who is doing the reporting on it

I gave you the benefit of the doubt last week but you REALLY are an idiot!

Here is the clip from Limpball's OWN show!

Are you going to deny that is his voice?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CYxxps6tgSQ

I'm not making excuses for him...

Well then, what would you call this?

Liberals have a hard time understanding the humor behind absurdity.

BB,

Sorry, not buying into that one. I have a daughter. If someone with Mr. Limbaugh's ratings (and a lot of folks on the right do listen to him) had attacked her the way he has gone after this young woman - well, let's just say it would NOT be pretty. This kind of crap, and the tolerance for it, has to stop NOW! As you well know, I am a person in the middle politically, but I am also a believer in human decency. There is not a single bit of decency in his attacks.

NewDay,

I know I should, but pieces of crap like Michael1969 (the FUBAR lover) just sicken me. The fact they even breathe the same air I breathe is disgusting.

brianb: "I'm not making excuses for him."

Yes, brian, you are. And shame on you.

But, IGNORE. He relishes the attention.

Like every other right wing nut troll attention whore around here...

Brianb -- You are not making excuses??? Really?? They sure in the heck sound like excuses. Sorry but neither you or Rush get a pass. There is no excuse for the inexcusable.

Look at the rage from Liberals over the comments from an entertainer like Limbaugh. Do you same Liberals feel the same rage over similar veined comments from people like Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow, or Bill Maher? Or is this just another case of Liberals wearing their hypocrisy on their sleeves again?

brian you say liberals have hate filled posts. Just listen to rush and read some of the right wing posts on here. Absurdity is one thing what rush did is something else. It was rude. To think of this, rush was the one who started in your face crap. What ever happened to treating people how you would like to be treated? I can answer that Its gone and this is what's left, nothing. So lets just tear each other down in the name of politics. Let the next bunch clean it up.

Jack in Portsmouth said: It's not a question of free speech. If you were an intelligent person, I would merely dismiss your post as an attempt at provocation. But since you seem not to have an intelligent bone in your body, I'm not going to take the time to explain what our objections are.

Ahhh Jack... I've been to Portsmouth once.... ONCE!

Do you really think your opinion of me matters? In the overall scope of life in general, your opinion is but a grain of sand on a deserted beach.

It is a question of freedom of speech. Let me ask you Jack, were you listening to Limbaugh when the conversation occurred? Did you have your radio tuned in to his show? Did you? Huh? Did you?

I pretty much know the answer to that question. You were probably listening to Randi Rhodes or some other far out wacked liberal show. This is where you reside... in liberal la la land. Remember, I've been there. Once.

Since it is pretty obvious that you weren't listening to the show, you are basing your information on something that is second hand. My very wise grandfather taught me, among many things, a singular truth of life... Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear. I guess you never learned this lesson. Every liberal on this board is falling for what the left's version of the conversation entailed. Since I didn't listen to him when the conversation was live, I can't comment on second hand information... I do know the history of left leaning observations of Limbaugh... most of them are false. I have no other reason to believe the premise to be false this time.

By the way Jack, bones do not contain intelligence... I just wanted to clear up your confusion.

Michael1969 - Why don't you take your Vienna Sausage size manhood and troll the dating sites (FUBAR) to see if you can generate any interest from some poor, unsuspecting woman? Probably the only way you can get your jollys.

To all those on the left that are saying I am making excuses, you just aren't getting my point. The point is, second hand information is useless. Especially when coming from an equally opposite biased opinion base. If you didn't hear the actual, real, live conversation, you don't KNOW what is missing in the second hand information. I didn't hear it. I would say the exact same thing about a left wing commentator when reported on by the right. Any questions?

damage Here is my comment on the rapper. Simply put. Who Cares? Only trolls like you seem to have a problem with it. I bet you don't know the real reason why the rapper has been a issue.

I post the disgusting site of one your BLOG-MATES and I get chastised by you as being a pig

You sure squeal like one!

And NO amount of lipstick is gonna cover up the FACT!

Only problem with your link is - I don't own a twitter account!

Phine is right - you're trying to compensate your lack of substance with your women hating schtick!

Too bad, so sad!

Damage: It's clear educated women scare you. Maybe Santorum will teach you how to turn your girlfriend/wife (kind of a scary thought) into a Borg drone.

The point is, second hand information is useless

Excuse #29 - how is this second hand information?

Are you saying that is not Limpball's lips flapping into his golden microphone?

Now might be a good time to move on, if you dig any deeper you'll never be able to crawl out of the hole you have dug for yourself!

Poor brianb no one understands him. We know you don't think your making excuses but you are. Sucks to be you!

Me: Yo Judy, ur smart and beautiful let's go out on a date.

Judy: Do you listen to Rush Limbaugh?

Me: Not much, I'm at work when his show comes on.

Judy: Have you EVER listened to Rush Limbaugh?

Me: Sure, but…

Judy: AHA just as I thought, ur a misogynist slug who wants to videotape us doing the nasty just to satisfy the prurient interest of all your RWNJ buds.

Me: But wait a sec…

Judy: Don't you but-but me pal, I'm on to your game and I've got a pocketbook full of free contraceptives to prove it.

Me: What does that have to do with anything?

Judy: It has EVERYTHING to do with EVERYTHING. Don't you know free contraceptives are a women's health issue? And Neanderthals like you wanna take that away and make us use aspirin!

Me: OMG forget the aspirin, that's not what I had in mind for tonight. And I would gladly buy you some contraceptives in return for…

Judy: Don't try to sweet talk me pal, I'm on to that game too. If I wasn't such a lady, I'd kick u where it hurts the most – and post THAT video on utube.

Me: OK, so I guess that means we're not on for dinner?

Judy: Whatever gave you that impression? Just get me home in time for Steve Doocey's show.

Moral of the story: it's a parody not meant to be taken literally. What Rush said about those videos was hilarious and only the looniest of leftist toons would interpret his remarks literally. You people really need to get a life -- courage is all it takes.

bill would you feel the same way if that Lady was your wife, daughter or granddaughter, who rush was talking about? Why can't you righties see a little respect will go a long way.

Geez Bill, do you really think that? Rush should not be taken literally, really? It is nice to see the real Bill....just like Rush....that's the moral of your post.

MY, my. The "Mad Men" coming out of hiding. Standing up for their "big" man that speaks for them. What a man, what a man, right? Hides behind a mike spewing rhetoric about a subject he is unfit to speak of. With their tighty whitey's in a bunch his minions count on that man to say what they really feel. It makes them feel real good someone understands them. What a man, what a man. Those free contraceptives scare the @!$%# out you. Now that's hilarious!

if you dig any deeper you'll never be able to crawl out of the hole you have dug for yourself!

Exactly. He just digs himself in further and further and further.

BrianB--I guess I am going to have to explain it to you. I've met a lot of people who listen faithfully to Rush every day. They don't interpret his remarks as being humorous or purposely absurd; they take it as the Gospel truth. (I say "Gospel truth" because that reflects your reading of the Bible, which many people read metaphorically, but which you take as the literal truth.) I've listened to Rush enough myself to understand how he manipulates his listeners. And I listened enough to yesterday's clip to know that it follows his usual pattern. It wasn't meant to be humorous, and it wasn't meant to be absurd. It was meant to denigrate an intelligent young woman who did not deserve to be treated the way he treated her. It was meant to be provocative. It was purposely done to manipulate a whole array of right wing listeners who are easily manipulated. (DCIA got it precisely right: "It makes them feel real good someone understands them.") That you excuse him says more about you than you can possibly understand.

BrianB,

Let me get this straight. Your theory is that if you didn't hear it live (your asinine taunt of "Let me ask you Jack, were you listening to Limbaugh when the conversation occurred? Did you have your radio tuned in to his show? Did you? Huh? Did you?") then it didn't occur? Or that you have no right to comment on it? Is that what you were childishly trying to say? BrianB, using your ridiculous logic (being really, really gracious by calling whatever tumbles out of your mouth/fingers "logic"), then if you weren't actually sitting in the studio when the Windbag uttered those repulsive phrases, I guess that wouldn't entitle you to comment on it either? Careful now, because if you don't think (again, throwing you some latitude on your ability to cognitively process anything) that you actually have to be sitting in front of the ignat while he's peppering you with the spittle from his rant, it's a slippery slope all the way back to SEEING AND HEARING A PLAYBACK of the repulsive, repugnant one doing what he does best: uttering ignorant, misinformed blather to the right-wing masses that feast on it and who's only response is to ask for more. And absurdity isn't a pass for what he was saying.

The fact is that it was Rush who ranted on and on about the Georgetown student. I saw it, and I heard it. You can have your opinion, no matter how misinformed or myopic. That's your right. But you don't get to pick and choose the facts. That's just wrong.

Don't carry it all:

Sorta like you hiding behind your computer spewing your empty rhetoric. Limbaugh literally owns the radio market, having virtually no competition and tens of millions of listeners. What's your excuse?

love how you're trying to change the subject Backhouse.

The message: Israel, don’t worry. “What I've emphasized is that preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon isn't just in the interest of Israel, it is profoundly in the security interests of the United States, and that when I say we're not taking any option off the table, we mean it. We are going to continue to apply pressure until Iran takes a different course.”

Obviously President Obama doesn't want to keep his job.

Spider -- No excuse. Just using free speech to fight rhetoric with rhetoric. ; ) Suddenly you appear to not like rhetoric when the tables are turned. Go back to Rush he needs you.

Gingerbread Mamma

Feisty, Good Morning, the silence so far is deafening.....the women are waiting and watching. Tick Tock guys. Who will be the man or woman in the republican party who will stand up for the women of this country? Who amongst you will take a stand against Rush. Courage is all it takes.

There can be only one GM, the one who's an actual doctor, the one who can set aside his personal beliefs in lieu of the Constitution. Rush Limbaugh is an idiot, he skews his own message with intelligible rants he rates right up there with Alex Jones.

Dennis, Columbus, Ohio

Joe,

[Just think how much better off America would be if Barry devoted as much time to actually doing the work of being the President as he does being the Campaigner in Chief.]

First – No matter where our President is he is seconds away from world-wide communications. In other words it does not keep him from doing his duties as President.

Sorry you don't get to use this one. Even though I didn't like or vote for Bush, y'all have this thing about him spending too much time in Crawford. Pot/Kettle

I don't agree how Rush worded his comment but his premise is spot on. Sandra Fluke put herself in the public domain by volunteering to speak in front of the congressional hearing. She is a law student at Geargetown and she's complaining that she can't afford contrcetion? Give me a break! Why should I have my taxes going to a Georgetown student for her to have sex? Don't you liberals see how ridiculous this is? How big a of a nanny state do you libs need? Are we going to have to pay for attorneys if the contraceptoin fails and one of these lawyers to be get pregnant and wants to sue the pharmaceutical company? I have an idea you'll love: Let's make the 1%ers pay for all contraception! I'll bet you agree with that one?!

Feisty - do you really think I thought you'd remain in neutral? The simple answer is no. Ideology always takes preference over radicals like you.

The clip is cut short. It's only a portion of what was said. But since I heard it, I am now convinced Rush hasn't lost his sense of humor. I can see it totally bypasses your level of understanding.

Leave it to the liberals to express a false sense of righteous fury over something said in humorous absurdity by Limbaugh. Have you ever listened to Bill Maher? How about Colbert? or any number of liberal commentators? If you don't think they say equally offensive things, then you are solely basing your fury in the obvious direction... you flame on the right, but accept any nasty thing the left says about the right. It's the same old, same old. Why am I not surprised?

Remember Fiesty, we all have opinions... mine aren't any better than yours but if you desire to hate me for my opinions, then that is completely your choice.

What Rush Limbaugh said on his show was an attack on every woman in America.

You can cloak it anyway you want - but women got his misogynic message.

You can say you enjoy the rest of his show's episodes, but to stand up for how he conducted this one is to back his cowardly attack on this young woman.

When did treating people with decency go out the window and this garbage get accepted as humor?

Ideology - You are an upstanding person. Way to go.

When you defame someone, anyone, on a sponsored, nationally syndicated radio show, you are liable for the words you speak.

When you do this with video and audio tape running, you are also a fool.

But, most of all, when you do this in violation of the truth of the story, when you slander someone using this kind of language and innuendo, when you speak this before an audience, you have no class, no decency and no excuse.

Those of you that support this, excuse this, try to pretend it has no consequence or meaning or intent, those of you who ignore this, are equally guilty.

Shame on all of you.

Smitty - you're just too ignorant to understand the logic. Besides, I heard the youtube clip Fiesty provided... and I sat there and laughed at the humor. Liberals only find humor in what the left says about the right. If the remarks aren't laden with insults, the left isn't satisfied with the results.

Your fake indignation is appreciated though. It expresses exactly what the left stands for... and why the right just shakes their heads at your falsehood.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Why am I not surprised that all the Rush Limpballs apologists around here are MEN...?

I feel sorry for the women in your miserable misogynist world's!

You can twist yourself into a human pretzel as far as I'm concerned... you are not fooling anyone!

I'm not going to apologize for Limbaugh, he's an ass, but you shouldn't feel sorry for us conservative women, we're not stupid, the men may talk big but they know that the best way to win an argument with us is to say "yes dear" it's the power of the vagina honey and both sides know this ;)

btw limpballs? HYSTERICAL! You're lucky I wasn't taking a drink at that moment or you'd owe me a new keyboard.

I am sure "rappers" are the only artist who ever make misogynistic statements in a song... It has not been done by anyone else.

Regardless if you knew anything of Common, Damage and listened to the music rather than google random lyrics that fit your agenda, you would see Common actually is very positive person. He even has many songs actually embracing women. I am sure you will only respond by trying to post even more lyrics that are either out of context or that you dont understand. I refuse to go into detail and try to explain rap lyrics to you, but your example you even posted when explained is not being overtly disrespectful to woman though I would admit the language is foul.

To make the comparison easier with out the foul language that line Common said is less suggestive than Billy Joel in "Only the Good Die Young". With your logic Billy Joel should not be allowed in the white house.

Rush saying that we can watch women was a bit much. I can understand the idea that the watching them was supposed to be a joke and not taken serious even though its offensive. What I think is equally if not worse about what he said was that he suggests the idea that the women fighting for the issue are all prmiscuous, which whether they were or not, it really is not his business.

Jack said: And I listened enough to yesterday's clip to know that it follows his usual pattern. It wasn't meant to be humorous, and it wasn't meant to be absurd.

Jack - to a liberal it wasn't either... and that's the point. To those on the right, it was extremely humorous and absurd to boot. Since you base your hatred of Limbaugh on your ideology, anything he says is offensive to you... and again, that's the point. I'm certain it flies completely over your head because you don't have an inkling of how right minded people think. You can only base your thought process on what is contained in your brain... total liberal ideology. I'm not blaming you, but since you are blaming me, who sits in judgement? Again, a grain of sand on a deserted beach.

One other thing Jack... When I was younger, I thought like a liberal. I had very liberal ideas... and my thinker was liberal in nature... a funny thing happened to me when I grew up... I discovered liberal ideology was a complete waste of time. I grew into conservatism.... I realized that most liberal ideas were emotional in nature... only concerning a false sense of concern over insignificant things. I also realized this was a totally heartless way to approach life. You wouldn't know about such things because you haven't evolved beyond your emotionalism. Of course I don't expect you to actually absorb any of this.. and you probably won't even read it... but someone will... and anyone who evolved will understand exactly what I am talking about.

I sat there and laughed at the humor

Yep, calling her a "slut" was a real knee-slapper.

Remember Fiesty, we all have opinions... mine aren't any better than yours

You got that right. But hers are thoughtful, intelligent and compassionate.

anyone who evolved will understand exactly what I am talking about

You've got to be s**t*** me. You are so far from "evolved" there's no space between your hairline and eyebrows.

brian when your the only who understands your own logic, everyone is ignorant. Your condescending attitude of thinking you know it all might work someplace else but it don't work here. Like I said before it must really suck to be you when you think your superior to everyone else. Sorry I'm not alone in thinking that.

soazdan, you have revealed yourself for the uninformed, bigoted, mysogonistic person you are. Along with those who share your opinions. You have shown that you completely ignored the facts of the whole story. You have shown that you merely accepted the Fox News and Rush Limbaugh version.

Sandra Fluke put herself in the public domain by volunteering to speak in front of the congressional hearing.

Sandra Fluke came forward in support of a friend. Speaking in public opens you to slander and criticism? Speaking on someone's behalf, or your own behalf, does not condone the kind of slander to which she has been subjected.

She is a law student at Geargetown and she's complaining that she can't afford contrcetion? Give me a break!

Since when does being in college mean you have loads of extra money to spend? Do you know what it costs to go to college today?

Why should I have my taxes going to a Georgetown student for her to have sex?

Sandra Fluke's testimony, as voiced to reporters and a in a separate hearing, was about her friend using birth control pills to treat an ovarian cyst. It was not about having sex by either Ms. Fluke or her friend. Your taxes are not going to fund someone else's sexual life anyway. The issue is about availability of medical care and treatment.

If you can't argue from the facts, don't argue. You are entitled to your opinions and your views, but not to made up facts.

That's your right said:Let me get this straight. Your theory is that if you didn't hear it live (your asinine taunt of "Let me ask you Jack, were you listening to Limbaugh when the conversation occurred? Did you have your radio tuned in to his show? Did you? Huh? Did you?") then it didn't occur?

Not at all. Your asinine insinuation falls way short of what my point was. Second hand information from a biased source is equally biased.... or do you have a problem with that assertion?

I didn't hear it myself so I was not qualified to comment on it. If you find this to be childish, I am so glad you don't work for me. If you did and made the same ignorant comments, you'd be among the ones looking for a job.

The fact is that it was Rush who ranted on and on about the Georgetown student. I saw it, and I heard it. You can have your opinion, no matter how misinformed or myopic. That's your right. But you don't get to pick and choose the facts. That's just wrong.

So you subscribe to Rush 24/7. Interesting. Or did you simply view it on youtube? Did you formulate your hateful opinion based on a liberal ideology lurking somewhere in your mind that immediately took offense to his comments? I have a suggestion for you... since you obviously aren't a Rush fan, then stop listening to him... AND - since you don't understand his method or way of expressing himself, why do you even bother? Anything he says should be totally ignored by you... or are you one of those people that can't stand to avoid mouthing your comments on what the right says? I'll readily admit I'll mouth my comments on what the left says... and I do it proudly... much to the disdain of those who participate in these boards... and there's nothing you can do about it except put me on ignore... which I encourage... because people like you obviously want to shut out any contrary opinion to your beloved beliefs.

Words like myoptic and hateful are the clear choices for liberals when they speak against conservatives. As if they are of any effect. Are you trying to win over my viewpoint? It's not going to happen... and that really irks you, doesn't it? Nothing you can say or attempt to prove to me about liberalism will ever change my ideology. I've already traveled that road and found it way to obstructive.

When I was younger

You posts indicate a teenage simpleton. How much younger can you get?

I grew into conservatism.

No, you succumbed to the fear mongering and now try to execute it yourself, you're just not very good at it. You defend the indefensible and you do it without facts or logic, you just pull stuff out of your behind and toss it to see what will stick. You have no credibility, zero, none. You've got a bad case of liberalitus and you have zero understanding of what you attack. What you do have is uncontrolled anger and you need to direct it at someone because you know no other way to deal with it. You listen to Fox or those in your closed little circle and and think you'll be seen as somehow smart in your little group if you go out and do a little "liberal bashing". You've done a fine job of swelling your own head today, but you didn't convince one, not one, liberal on here today that anything they think is off base. Your tactics don't make people think. Speaking of thinking...

you don't have an inkling of how right minded people think

What are right minded people? People who think like you? People are not right minded unless they think as you do? What a steaming pile of self-centered nonsense. If you meant how people on the right side of the political spectrum think that's a different story and it is plan to see after just a few minutes over at Fox that "right minded" people think that it is ok to tell people who they can love and marry, it is ok to tell a woman that she is not entitled to the same health benefits as everyone else because she is employed by a church that shouldn't be in business in the first place, you think spending ridiculous amounts of money on military hardware is a great investment, you think wars are great business, you think all of the money should flow to the top few "successful" people because that will eventually make us all better off, you think that there should be no rules, every man for himself and we will all be better off, no one will rip anyone off. Yeah, that's "right minded" alright. You're a dolt and an idiot, quit wasting people's time and give Koch his check back because today's effort was a big fat FAIL!

Smitty said: brian when your the only who understands your own logic, everyone is ignorant. Your condescending attitude of thinking you know it all might work someplace else but it don't work here. Like I said before it must really suck to be you when you think your superior to everyone else. Sorry I'm not alone in thinking that.

Wow smitty you do get it. I'm very impressed. Take a look around you... the liberals outnumber conservatives about 40 to 1 on First Read. Do you think that plays a factor in understanding me?

I have never claimed to be superior... I have often said that liberal opinions are fine for liberals... Just because you feel my comments are from a different direction than your brain allows you to think in doesn't make anything I say superior. I'm not too proud to admit that. Your attempt at disqualifying my opinion doesn't work though... At least I take the time to repost your words so people don't get confused about what I am saying.... do you do that much?

OMG Jack, I have to thank you! I sincerely mean it too... Your latest post tickled my funny bone to the core... you know the bone that doesn't think? (taking off a comment you made earlier that showed just how dumb you are)

I sat there and laughed at the humor

Yep, calling her a "slut" was a real knee-slapper.

Well considering what the left calls the right, that was pretty mild. Let's see.. what's worse... slut or @$$hole? What's worse... slut or Fuc*ing idiot? You determine... but my money is on you saying slut is worse.

Remember Fiesty, we all have opinions... mine aren't any better than yours

You got that right. But hers are thoughtful, intelligent and compassionate.

Now this will go down in the annals of time as being one of the most funniest and comical statements emerging from First Read. If what Fiesty posts is considered thoughtful, intelligent and compassionate, you haven't been on the receiving end of her blessings. Ask any conservative on these boards if what Fiesty says is any of the above! ROFL!!! I'm still laughing over this statement... what a maroon.

anyone who evolved will understand exactly what I am talking about

You've got to be s**t*** me. You are so far from "evolved" there's no space between your hairline and eyebrows.

This coming from someone that thinks bones have intelligence..... wow!

OMG Jack, I have to thank you! I sincerely mean it too...

Jack,

Give it up and throw a shovel at the knuckle dragger.

Anyone who finds calling a young women a slut to be funny has deeper psychological issues!

And all Brian's novel's of excuses isn't going to change anything!

He is not worthy of your time!

brian your condescending attitude speaks again. Your opinion is your opinion. I want everyone to see your opinion. That way everyone can see your pomposity.

Remember Fiesty, we all have opinions... mine aren't any better than yours

You got that right. But hers are thoughtful, intelligent and compassionate.

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Another stunning example of why I LOVE MSDNC and FR: All the oblivious and unintended comedy they consistently produce!!!!!

THANKS for playing Jack-off in Ports mouth. (Although I do pity poor Port.)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amused said: No, you succumbed to the fear mongering and now try to execute it yourself, you're just not very good at it. You defend the indefensible and you do it without facts or logic,

I never realized I was that good... at least from what your comment tells me. Actually, the indefensible are all the murdered babies the left wants to keep murdering... and I'll keep on my quest of defending them... regardless of what any of you might say to defend women's rights.... By the way... if you are so steadfast in defending women's rights, how about all the little girl babies the left keeps murdering... don't they have rights too? Quite a quandary if you ask me...

What you do have is uncontrolled anger and you need to direct it at someone because you know no other way to deal with it.

Isn't this exactly what you are doing to me? Spilling your guts in a long diatribe of hatred for my opinion? Wow... pot calling kettle black.

Amused... I really hope you feel better after getting all that off your brain... I would say chest, but you might be a woman and that would be offensive... no sense in kicking the crap out of your PC ideology. You might think I didn't read the rest of your post, but I did. After all, what good would it do to not listen to how you think... Amazing little brain you got going there. All these righteous ideas and no where to place them. Well most of them were blame the other guy, but again.. nothing new... not from the liberal standpoint anyway.

Anyone who finds calling a young women a slut to be funny has deeper psychological issues!

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And yet you calling people "attention whores" is what Jack-off in Ports mouth defines as "thoughtful, intelligent and compassionate".

Another stunning example of why I LOVE MSDNC and FR: All the oblivious and unintended comedy they consistently produce!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First, Common is a rap singer that made general statements in a lyric. Second, Limbaugh singled her out. It was not a general statement. He called her, to 6 million people, a slut and a prostitute.

If your wife or daughter was cast in the same light, you would be looking for the person that said that or you are no "man". A general statement that "if a woman believes in... she would be regarded as a slut" is completely different than calling an individual by name such demeaning names.

It makes me hope there's a Hell. I might be swimming in it, based on some omnipotent's decision that I deserve it. But I will be clawing and gnashing my teeth at the people that condone such disgusting rhetoric.

Brianb-999431, you may have lost your emotions. I do not know. But there is a name for your description. It's called a conscience. It is supposedly a Diety's gift to Man to make better judgements in his decisions between right and wrong. If you have indeed shedded your conscience so you could make judgements without emotional stress, they offer prayer groups for you.

For those that follow their conscience and make right decisions, you should feel envy of them, and sadly, you will not.

Fiesty,

what's worse... slut or @$$hole? What's worse... slut or Fuc*ing idiot? You determine... but my money is on you saying slut is worse.

His inability to understand the difference between these insults, and the specificity associated with them, demonstrates not only his lack of intellectual acuity, but an undisguised hostility towards women. This is the same boy-man who is incapable of understanding Choice. Everything is about him and his narrow little worldview. Pity the women in his life.

Bosslimo,

they offer prayer groups for you.

You must not know BrianB. He reads the Bible as literal truth, but the beliefs he expresses on FR swing 180 degrees in the other direction.

I am stunned by what I am reading from the right-wingers. These are the guys who seem to believe that liberals are supposed to be tolerant. They're sissies. They think life is all about the warm fuzzies.

I can't escape the impression that these tough, strong, manly, right-wing guys, would stand by if someone called their wife, or their girlfriend, or their mother, or sister, or aunt a slut. Yup, that's just fine.

How's that work, when all you manly guys take your wives to the company picnic? "Hey, let me introduce you to the little slut, my wife Mindy."

I don't know one lefty liberal who would begin to tolerate that kind of abuse directed towards his wife, daughter, sister, mother, or any female for that matter.

Limbaugh and his defenders are beyond misogyny. I'd bet my bottom dollar they don't have the stones to talk like that in public. Punks, the lot of them.

Jack-off said: His inability to understand the difference between these insults, and the specificity associated with them, demonstrates not only his lack of intellectual acuity, but an undisguised hostility towards women

But you are an intellectual brainchild to produce insults and specific put downs to those on the right. There's no other term that is most aptly descriptive than the word hypocrite.

David Walker said: Punks, the lot of them.

I wonder if David Walker knows what the term punk means. It's pretty much on the same level as the word slut.

It's just fine to call men punks but it's not okay to call women sluts. I guess this is another of the long series of politically incorrect rules the left places on society... fine for males to be called names, but not fine for women... and women want equality... in who's world. Or is David's world one where only the left are the arbiters and makes up the rules... Only the left gets to call all the shots... tell the right what they can and cannot do. All the rules the right has to follow the left are exempt from.

I don't think so. Hey David... you're the punk.

Moonbase - good luck with that. I'd say your time is totally wasted, but thanks for the effort. Boycotts never work... but someone forgot to give you the memo.

Thanks for the address to Clear Channel... I want to write to them to tell them I think Limbaugh is doing a great job in pissing off liberals. He's a rare breed that knows exactly how to get under their skin... he does a far more superior job than I could ever think of. When a liberal hates you... means you've gotten to them and defeated them. Hate - look it up in the dictionary.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/02/lawmaker-wants-answers-after-cost-estimate-for-health-insurance-aid-rises-by/

Obamacare to cost even more ($111 Billion more) in new Obamabudget. Ooops. Please explain that Liberals. I seem to remember a whole bunch of conservatives telling you that Nationalized Healthcare would balloon in cost and would lead to rationing. How's that looking?

I guess Chevy Chase and his famous Saturday Night Live line wasnt funny either. Bill Maher calls male and female conservatives far worse every week on his show and the claim that Fiesty's comments are intelligent and compassionate--please provide me some proof. Give me one intelligent critically thought out post regarding a topic? Please just one? No editing just give it and it must not have one single name calling, personal attack, swear, no religious bigotry that is offensive to millions of Christians, Jews and/or Muslims. Come on I want you to find one.

I am not a Rush fan and find his brand of humor just like Bill Maher's to be offensive and not funny. Making fun at people for a laugh isnt funny to me. However, I have to admit Brian has really shown they hypocrisy and being ganged up by a margin of 40-1, he has pretty much won this debate. Jack, Fiesty and David, you guys look like fools in this debate. When someone is used by the left wing to testify in front of congress and says such ridiculous things that she cant afford her contraceptives while attending a college that costs $50k a year, its a shame that someone thought that was a good idea to have her testify in the first place. You know what the simple answer is? Get a part time fu*&king job and help pay for your lifestyle like so many of us who figured out how to get through college and pay our personal expenses.

David wondered how our children feel so entitled and where it came from? Another good example hud David? Who taught Fluke to want free stuff or have someone else pay for her lifestyle choices?

Moonbase--you do realize that none of us care if all the advertisers pull the plug from Rush right? He is an entertainer and he takes the risk that he offends people and this stuff happens. You do realize its no different than Howard Stern etc? The problem is that once these guys pull their advertising and whole bunch who are happy with his notoriety and dont care about the negative will replace them and if not and he goes off the air, that is the risk he takes. That doesnt change the hypocritical reaction to this right? How many of you were calling for a boycott of President Clinton when it was discovered that he harassed and took advantage of young women? That is far worse of a gender issue than an entertainer calling a woman a slut. You see, you can only cry wolf like this when you have been a consistent champion of woman's rights regardless of the politician who is doing the alleged bad thing. Right now, progressives dont have clean hands and are not consistent in their passionate support to be credible and believable.

But you are an intellectual brainchild to produce insults and specific put downs to those on the right.

I was talking to you, Ye of Little Brain. And, yes, I am insulting you because the most you can come back with is something about "intelligent bones". Surely you have heard the expression "not an intelligent bone in his body" before. It's a figure of speech. But the fact that you've referred to it twice now indicates that you're fumbling for something to say. You won't admit to the real issue. Limbaugh is saying exactly what you want to hear. You're one of those guys who just hates the thought of equality between the sexes.

I wonder if David Walker knows what the term punk means. It's pretty much on the same level as the word slut.

OMG! "[O]n the same level", huh? You really should shut up, as Fiesty suggested. You keep on digging your hole deeper. If you were just trying to be provocative, I could understand. But you really believe this crap. And you had the gall to call yourself "evolved" in an earlier post?

David Walker

I am stunned by what I am reading from the right-wingers. These are the guys who seem to believe that liberals are supposed to be tolerant.

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No David.

Lefty Liberals only pretend to be "tolerant" to sell their lefty liberal " We will give you a free lunch if you vote Democrat" agenda to the addlebrained masses out there looking for a "free lunch". Their "tollerance" ends when some conservative like me says "There's no such thing a a 'free lunch'."

Joe in Albany

You are either highly misinformed or highly misled. I wonder if you have ever looked up the definition of Liberal.

I paid 19,000.00 in taxes last year. I did not question the amount, I question its designation. I have my opinions about my hard earned money invested in a weapon destined to kill innocents and call it collateral damage. I ponder the thought of my money subsidizing billion dollar corporations. I question the right of government to rape a woman with a probe, using my money to fund enforcement. I question the right of government funding of viagra but not birth control.

One thing I do not question are the conservatives; bearing a flag in one hand and a Bible in the other. I know the type. Standing behind the flag of their nation they make statements disavowing it, yelling, "Keep government out of my life!". Standing behind the Bible are words and deeds directly opposite of what it teaches, prefering instead the benefits of greed. Let the poor starve, everyone fend for themselves, and if you're white, you're alright.

I believe I have a right to my Social Security and Medicare. I believe I have a right to drive on a pothole-free road. I believe I have a right to protection- from citizens and non-citizens alike. I believe I have a right to be a liberal, or conservative, or libertarian.

I bear the title of liberal with pride because I also believe it is my money and therefore my right to "give a free lunch" if I want to.

Jack in Portsmouth

I can not say I have had the honor of debating Brianb-999431. He may well be hypocritical in his rhetoric, of that I am no witness. I can only address his comments above.

The one point he has made defines the standard conservative. It seems to be quite accurate.

Apparently, after one loses his love, honor, charity, compassion, and any other emotions, he becomes a conservative.

The GOP has a bad case of electile dysfunction.

And it's getting worse by the day.

IR, YES,

The right wing approach is to keep you afraid. And when you are afraid, you won't the best decisions.

This translates as GOP time and energy being focused on geting rid of the "enemy" (gays, environmentalists, those who support women and poor people), instead of working to make our lives better.

Democrats are portrayed as those enemies and all of the above, as part of that scenario.

IR, thanks for posting that article. I do believe there are enough of us left to show the way back to policies that work for all.

In my view, the GOP has reached decision time--do they implode in a sea of continuing the failed policies of the last 30 year; do they continue to pit American against American, continue to preach fear and live in fear and believe that compromise is a dirty word or do they find their way back to reason and the middle? While I am no fan of Rick Santorum and the thought of him as President reminds me of a bad dream, it is why I posted the other day that his candidacy would mean a real debate on what the GOP has become; it would expose the underbelly of what the GOP now represents.

People forget how things were in 2008 as the stock market collapsed and people lost half or more of their investments, 401(k)s, IRAs, etc. People wondered if they would ever be able to retire. And under President Obama's leadership (with obstruction from the GOP), the economy is coming back, the market has recovered and we are poised for further growth. And the Republicans think we should put them back in the driver's seat? Really?

Jody said:

IR, thanks for posting that article. I do believe there are enough of us left to show the way back to policies that work for all.

Er... Jody... could you please explain to me some of the policies the left has produced that are totally effective? Start with Social Security... then move on to Medicare and Medicaid.... How about welfare... or the food stamp system. How about any liberal policy that has come out of Washington that doesn't cost the taxpayer billions or even trillions of dollars. While you are explaining the benefits of such liberal programs, don't forget the cost factors and how effective they are.

Hell Jody, you can even mention deforestation procedures out in California. This is where the environmentalists want do keep old forest growth undisturbed. Ask the homeowners there who lost their homes due to unnecessary forest fires the benefits they received. Yes, that was a liberal policy that was an epic fail. Clearing old growth helps to prevent forest fires and the environmentalists sued over it and won. They won alright... at what cost?

Er... Jody... could you please explain to me some of the policies the left has produced that are totally effective? Start with Social Security... then move on to Medicare and Medicaid.... How about welfare... or the food stamp system.

How about the public education system? With the tons of trolls rampant around here, I wonder how well that's working.

Oh that's right the GOP cut funding to public schools in my state.

Jody - how true. I think the Republican hierarchy have finally realized just how far astray they have been pulled from their core values. My husband, a life long straight ticket Republican, decries that his party has been hijacked. It use to be debate centered on the economy and social issues were a discussion point. Now socially tyrannical views are being espoused and economic issues are the minor talking points.

Brian First of all never said that all Democratic policies are a success. Just on a whole seems that Democratic policies have a higher % of success especially economically. In any endeavor that you have there are always successes and failure. Just Think how much more chances of success we would have if Republicans/T.P's worked on bringing the expertise that they do have in legitimate counterpoint to Democratic principals instead of feeling that they have to constantly demonize them in a narrow focus to gain power. We could together effect great things instead of fighting things that we settled years ago. Look forward not backward.

Great post, IR.

Damage123, Your posts are unintelligent and have nothing of any substance to add to the discussion. Frankly, you are a bore.

Steeler Fan,

Not entirely sure what your point is, are you saying that the country as a whole is back to being as good as it was under George W because the stock market has finally recovered? If I recall correctly, in this particular arena, most of the folks are blaming corporate greed for every ill in the nation. Since corporate greed is generally conceded to be one of the drivers of the stock market, are you now condoning corporate greed? The President has nothing to do with gas prices, but everything to do with the stock market? The economy is his, or it isn't depending on which day of the week it is, and whether or not the news is good or bad? Sorry if this sounds like an attack, I've been away from this site for quite a while, hoping the tone would improve, seems like I need to stay away until after the elections.

ruken said:

How about the public education system? With the tons of trolls rampant around here, I wonder how well that'sworking.

Oh that's right the GOP cut funding to public schools in my state.

The federal government should cut ALL funds to public schools. Schools should be locally run, as they are already... the feds need to cut out the department of education as a useless entity. The government getting involved in education is about as smart as me trying to teach my pet goldfish to speak.

Damage,

Iran is a backwards country not because the people are brown—they are human, we are human, we are one in the same. Iran is backwards because they have what so many of the social conservatives are yearning for: theocracy. Iran is a perfect example of when religion hijacks the state.

Are you suggesting that they are backwards because they aren't white? It sure as hell seems like it.

damage your the biggest hypocrite, pathetic pissy-pants fearmonger on here. Its amazing that the names you call everyone sure fit you so well. Takes one to know one huh?

Brian - most of what you say about public schools and the DOE I agree with.

But I do think there needs to be a national standard for the core objectives that are taught.

Some of the schools where I live in the south were focusing so much curriculum time on other countries, feel good topics,art projects or fun science experiments that were not correlated to any basic core knowledge students need in the main academic subjects.

I am not opposed to teaching any of these things and that should be a local choice, but not at the expense of some basic core standards of knowledge all students need.

There needs to be some type of national standard - No Child Left Behind was suppose to do that and got derailed into a state choice and now we have an even more bloated DOE and still a huge discrepancy is the state standards..

The fundamental problem with the republicans today is the same as it's always been. They have never learned to clean and cook their "chitlins" before they serve 'em.

Ruken

More and more money is thrown at the education system and the results do not indicate improvement. Perhaps money is not the problem with education.

Katheryn B - Well thought out comments. I agree wholeheartedly. Schools should be focusing on the basics... Math, Reading, Writing and Science. The fluff should be extremely limited.

Oh, Brian. Brian, Brian, Brian. Apparently you have forgotten about the past 30 years. Social Security, Medicare, AND Medicaid are great programs. They helped millions of seniors escape falling below the poverty line. Welfare has helped millions. What you OUGHT to be complaining about is how the GOP has been demonizing the unemployed (does "get a shower and a job" ring a bell?), the poor, and the moderates. They were the majors drivers of our debt and economic collapse. They should be held accountable; frankly, I say kick all of those right-wingers out of office. They've ruined this nation: it will be a great day in America on November 6 when the death-knell of the Republicon Party is sounded...

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

When it becomes a choice between Mr Romney and Mr. Obama I will start taking this stuff seriously. Until then its all just a primary. The good thing is it keeps people busy.... so they cant do as much harm.

Ideo: Wasn't intending on posting today. But, let me just say how much respect I have for you. I saw what you did, and I saw why you did it. You are the very definition of loyal friend.

Hey ideaology. We've hosted one of your country persons this week here where I work. She was from Burlington and in the course of events and dinners, we had a chance to discuss some of the issues both countries share. Needless to say I was very impressed with her knowledge of our political landscape and her unique perspective. It really was refreshing.

Yesterday afternoon a fellow poster/friend was attacked by a troll posting a personal site purporting to be that of my friend. I responded by posting a site linked to said troll.

Good Morning my friend!

The funny thing is, I don't have a Twitter account!

Tweets are for Twits! ☺

Enjoy your walk...

Ideo. What you did yesterday was terrific, some people seem to not know any boundaries and we have to fight fire with fire. Bless you for being a good friend, your value is beyond measure and I back you 100%.

Job well done, Ideology. All salute you for it.

Cheers to you, Ideology, for a job well done yesterday! I didn't have time to post much Thursday but did catch up reading the threads and comments later in the day.

Ideo," I am wealthy in my friends." Yes indeed, job well done, no worries. ;-)

Damage123

I declare you to be a vile race of one. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to become a racist free of guilt. Anyone know where the barbed wire is stored?

ideology---thanks for stepping up the way you did. I enjoy hearing the perspective from Canada and admire your loyalty.

Ideology,

The barbed wire is out in the barn, along with the pitchforks and rope!

Damage wrote "I kill me!"

... could you a bit harder on that? Show us that you are capable of at least one achievement.

ideology--You are the best!! Thank you for standing up for friends. I live fairly close to the US-Canadian border and have a number of Canadian friends. We also discuss politics and the state of the world--fun to share perspectives!

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

Damage,

Isn't it time for you to go to your porn sites and play with yourself?

Isn't it time for you to go to your porn sites and play with yourself?

Just don't use Google images.

*whispers* They track you now. :(

Ideology ... you are truly a "stand-up" guy.

I have all my investments in Canada and doing very well, My advisor gave me advice mid 2008 when it became clear that there was going to be a administration change.

ideo: It is easy to sit back and say we are but avatars, but behind each one is a real person and if you attack any friend of mine in such a manner, I will without hesitation come after your ass with a flaming hot poker and match the sizzle to your stink. Canadians are generally a civil bunch but if you piss us off we will kick the crap out of you.

My ideo, you've really taken your anger and threats up a few notches this week. Not getting enough sleep? Troubles at home? Not getting enough attention?

Please, share your distress with the group.

Public meltdowns like ideo's are never pretty.

jollyoldsoul1

Your investor should have told you to cash out at the end of 2008 when the Canadian dollar was much higher than yours. That would have been a windfall profit.

I note that the barge of bilious bile JAS1 has arrived with once again nothing to say of any import. How many husbands have left you again?

ideo: I note that the barge of bilious bile JAS1 has arrived with once again nothing to say of any import. How many husbands have left you again?

My. There it is again.

Why all the hate Ideo? There must be a reason.

And don't worry about being tossed or banned or whatever they do here for out of control posters like youself ideo. You're decidedly on the Left part of the political spectrum here, so you could have a total lose-your-mind week (like you are having) and you'd still be behind the Dumb Fux in stupidity, and there is no chance that idiot would get bounced, so you wouldn't be going anywhere either.

"I will without hesitation come after your ass with a flaming hot poker and match the sizzle to your stink." - ideologyspoilstheview 03/02/2012

That is just so primeval. You don't participate in those phony gladiator clubs that perform for the kids, do you?

Now, back to you to continue your Keyboard Commando insults.

JoAnnaSmith1

Why all the hate? I do not hate you gal. What I fight against is a lack of imagination and you along with others here are steeped in it. If you are bothered by hate then deal with the likes of Damage123 or the others of his ilk. In the meantime enjoy the pickle that seems to be stuck in your butt ... luv' ya babe!

ideo: What I fight against is a lack of imagination and you along with others here are steeped in it. If you are bothered by hate then deal with the likes of Damage123 or the others of his ilk. In the meantime enjoy the pickle that seems to be stuck in your butt ... luv' ya babe!

Oh, so you're a "fighter". My, that is impressive. What do you fight for? Truth? Justice? The American Way? Oh, wait, you're from Canada. Do you wear a cape? And you probably go with a little mascara, you know, to highlight your cheeks.

You are certainly a renaissance man, I bet the girls just love you, when ever you bother to bathe.

JAS!: when ever you bother to bath.

Whenever I finish a conversation with you.

I am guessing that clean sex and dirty sex are all the same to you in that you don't get any.

Better get back to your "fighting" ideo. Foam swords I hope. Better be, your mom is out of Neosporin.

"I will without hesitation come after your ass with a flaming hot poker and match the sizzle to your stink." - ideologyspoilstheview 03/02/2012

That is just so precious. Will need to keep that one around.

JAS1 ... perhaps you could come up here and help me dig her up. It is winter and the ground is frozen, but I do believe that she would like to have a posthumous word or two with you.

Enjoy the quote ...

ideo: JAS1 ... perhaps you could come up here and help me dig her up.

Now that would just be weird. Looks like you have lots of experience with it though.

ideo: Enjoy the quote ...

I will. It's always fun when wimps like you come up with these gems.

And your Super Hero Canadian Justice what-ever-name, Kaptain Klondick, correct? Fits with your Canuckee-ness.

And your Super Hero Canadian Justice what-ever-name, Kaptain Klondick

Nah ... his name was Superman but he was more suited to your mentality so we gave him to you along with basketball.

bye now gringo ... getting to be boring

Ideology,

" What I fight against is a lack of imagination "

Yes, imagination whether in politics , comedy, or the art of criticism is a quality that many of the above posters lack.

Rush's parodies appeal to "locker room" humor which I hoped most men grow out of by the time they have a real relationship with a woman.

The trolls on this board are not in that category yet.

if one is looking for great comedy about the role of women in society and what they can do if they are fed up:

Read "Lysistrata" by Aristophanes. He had imagination par excellence.

BTW, Love your new avatar, Ideology

Wow JAS1 -- You really had to go bad, I guess. Must be all the garbage you eat. Try changing your diet, you might feel better.

Have a great day!

ideologyspoilstheview & JoAnnaSmith1

sounds like you two have a history! why don't you both get a padded cell together and talk things out. Or at least take your affair somewhere else.

phinephancy-4252115

Damage,

Isn't it time for you to go to your porn sites and play with yourself?

Sweetie you're way better than that, you are an intelligent and strong woman, I admire you immensely, don't sink to a Feisty level.

Good Morning Jody,

I am beyond incensed over Limpballs comments!

Superb post by the way! ☺

I ♥ the new addition of the "Chitspa" award!

Good morning Jody,

Thank You!

Jody, Iowa:

You never cease to amaze. Another outstanding wrap-up. Thank you very much.

I was going to suggest that you save these, and perhaps ten or twenty years down the road, compile them in a book. Problem is, because of the "you can't make this stuff up" quality of Republican actions, librarians won't know whether the book should be in the fiction or non-fiction section.

By the way, here you are at 8.0 and you'll notice that people come looking for your post. When I got to 5.0, I started hyperventilating and my BP started going up. At six and seven, I was feeling faint. I doubt that I'd have made it past 9.

By the way, here you are at 8.0 and you'll notice that people come looking for your post. When I got to 5.0, I started hyperventilating and my BP started going up. At six and seven, I was feeling faint

Too funny David!

I originally started my comment to Jody with; 'Well... here you are', then erased it!

Another outstanding post, Jody. Thanks for all your hard work. My personal favorite (there are so many to choose from) is the aircraft carrier for Wyoming---you can't make this stuff up!

It is so appalling to watch rights that we women have fought for for years under assault once again. Thank goodness it is energizing women and enlightened men and teaching them the lesson not to take their rights for granted. The Republican party should be ashamed that no one has spoken out against Rush Limbaugh.

1 out of every $4 dollars spent during the GOP primary has come from 5 people. Doesn't matter what political leanings one has, there's something wrong with that picture.

We the 1% of the 1% in order to form a...

Another outstanding post, Jody.

I echo that statement wholeheartedly. Thank you, for another great weekly wrap up to read. Always enjoyable.

Just in case you might want to contact them, here is a list of Limbaugh's sponsors:
Pro Flowers
Sleep Train
Domino's Pizza
Lending Tree
Life Quotes
e-Harmony
OnStar
Hotwire Corporate Headquarters
CARBONITE, Inc.
Select Comfort
The Neptune Society of Northern California
Oreck Corporation
Mid-West Life Insurance Co. Tennessee
AutoZone Inc.
Mission Pharmacal (Citrical)
LegalZoom
Blue-Emu
Citrix Online (GoToMyPC)
American Forces Network

Thanks, Tired Old Guy. I have already contacted ProFlowers. Will be working on the rest of the list. There has to be a line in the sand for decency, and Limbaugh has been getting away with this far too long.

Feisty, I could have written a thesis with my thoughts about Limbaugh.

David, that's funny but not as funny as the reason I'm down at 8.0--a button-pushing blunder on my part. All set to hit post and accidentally exited--what with all the widgets and script FR has, it's slower than molasses to get back. I was originally 3.0. I do save the posts; figure one of these days, I can provide a look back at the crazy and yes, it does read like fiction.

Thanks everyone. Tired Old Guy, thanks for the list.

No doubt, the GOPers will provide plenty in the lead up to Super Tuesday. Have a great weekend.

Great as always Jody ... with so many to choose from every week it must be tough to choose the top (bottom?) posts.

Jody -- Well said! Five donors feeding a presidential candidate is scary and criminal. Your Food for Thought was everything I wanted to say but couldn't due to anger issues on the subject, so thanks friend for saying it so well.

Jody, excellent post and as always, thank you for the time spent collecting all this pieces.

Brilliant observation on that despicable individual, as I said above, the silence is deafening. Just saw a piece on this on the Daily Rundown, a woman who does communications work for the GOP, couldn't bring herself to denounce Rush, only when pushed by Todd did she allow he wasn't helping their cause. Seriously, what kind of woman is not outrage at this jerk and the lack of outrage from the republicans.

Have a great weekend

eah, So DECADES later, Democrats and liberals could come on websites and call Catholicism a "cult" and claim that Catholics aren't fit to run. Yeah. I'm sure ole JFK is proudly looking down on his party right about now....

Catholics are fit to run, and as JFK proved, to lead.

You know, ones that can actually have a logical thought and aren't blinded by religious hypocrisy.

Our frothy friend doesn't qualify.

Oh and FYI, JFK was downplaying his religion as an irrelevant issue. Frother keeps playing it like he's holier-than-thou.

Last time I checked it wasn't democrats calling Catholism a cult--it was the repubican Christian evangelicals of the GOP and that includes the likes of their ministers--Hagge, Parsley, Copeland, Jeffers, and more indirectly said by Franklin Graham and a few of the GOP presidential candidates with their almost but not quite subtle suggestions.

Jody--excellent as always! I caught some things I missed this week, although who could possibly miss the TPGOP war on women? As the Komen Foundation learned, much to its detriment--WE ARE WOMEN, HEAR US ROAR!

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

ps--love the "Chitspa" award and am glad it is a weekly feature!

As usual, you miss what really happens-of importance- last week-

Obama solemnly intoned that his apology for the Quran burning had calmed the raving masses in Afghanistan. Thus, the two soldiers killed the next day were, undoubtedly, killed by very calm rioters.

Leave aside the facts- that prisoners were writing messages to their comrades in the margins of said Qurans- a violation akin to blasphemy, AND the acceptable method of disposing of such violated Qurans is burning-

Does this nitwit need to continue to provide proof of his own ego? I, for one, and completely sick of his constant self-aggrandizing statements.

In other news, DoE Secretary Chu proclaimed to the world via congressional testimony that, no, Obama's administration is not, particularly, disturbed by high gas prices; in fact, they're pretty pleased with them..seems Chu, not content with the billions taxpayers have already wasted on Obama donors' rainbow factories, thinks we need to throw more money down that rat hole.

If this administration epitomizes anything, it is the term "educated idiots".

Andrew Breitbart died- but the video footage of Obama that was to be released yesterday still exists- and will be released in the coming days. His legacy lives on, and

Obama shelved in 2012.

Jody - I am new to your Weekly Wrap Up. Printing this out for some friends. Great. I am a happy convert!

Don't Carry, Gingerbread--you're welcome my friends. I did some serious editing on that because my anger and frustration was quite obvious in the first couple versions.

Ruken, well said.

Jody - as usual another great post....unfreakin' belieavable what the GNOP will do...Ladies...I hate to say this but the GNOP is obviously after womens sufferage and trying to make women suffer....At the rate they are going I can see them trying to do away with your right to vote...after all you should just be a slave to your man....look - they are already trying to disenfranchise the young and the old...people who tend to think....

Wasn't it Pink Floyd that said "We don't want no education"...go get'em Rick.....Help keep America Dumb.

Andrew Breitbart died- but the video footage of Obama that was to be released yesterday still exists- and will be released in the coming days. His legacy lives on, and

Yesterday, Mickey gave the bat @!$%# crazy crowd until today before the conspiracy theories started...

In actuality it started yesterday;

http://www.buzzfeed.com/

The question is, which screen name did the nut job from NJ comment under? lol

I suggest you hold your breath until the video comes out... honey!

Damage123 ... you absolute moron. The lyrics by Common that you posted are a rant against Gangsta Rap. Wipe the white from your brain and reread them ...

Askin’ if I’m nice like fu**in’ with a chick
Who don’t give head – that’s a no-brainer
Niggas back bangers you don’t even know the names of
I’ma bout to meet my quota you about to meet ya Saviour
You wack nigga, you about to get shot

Jody, I look for your post on Friday too. Always great.

Thanks, your devoted fan.

Jody - Thank you, thank you, thank you, and in case you didn't get it, thank you. I am hosting friends this week, and they also love this wrap up. Your efforts are greatly appreciated.

Jody, I wait for it every Friday. I am never disappointed. Great work as always. Thank you!

Thanks, Tired Old Man for the list.

Jody,

Finally worked my way down here! When I didn't see you at #3 or #4 I feared you gave up doing the Friday Wraps! As always, it's wonderful and I appreciate your work.

I can understand how your anger and frustration might have needed editing. Watching Limbaugh's rants last night made me so sick that when they were replayed I would switch to the Bruins game--I just couldn't take it. It's bad enough that he said those despicable things. But in my naivete I thought even the RWNJs would distance themselves from his remarks. But they didn't. And in that refusal they have displayed their true colors.

But returning to Limbaugh for a moment. When I watched the clip of him I thought: This country is descending into true madness. It sometimes seems to me that we are slipping backwards in time to the Germany of the 1930's.

Jack, Jack, Jack:

You just don't get it. God has already forgiven Limbaugh for that minor slip of the tongue. Of course, God doesn't have a Mom, and He (Note the capital "H". I'm all over this PC stuff.) impregnates Jewish virgins, so maybe He's a bit more tolerant of misogynists than those of us who have Mothers, wives, and sisters.

Whoa! Dude! You are PC. (Have you noticed I took your suggestion and did a little PC all on my own?)

Well, stepping outside the PC mode for a moment, he (okay, He) must be tolerant of misogynists since they are the ones who are always saying they have been "called by God", whether to run for president or, on a less lofty scale, to set the Leftists on this site straight (no pun intended).

I know one thing, that the transvaginal probe Governor of Virginia, will never be the VP.

I remember what my Dad once told me about Liberals, he said......

Son, never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

I remember what my Dad once told me about Conservatives, he said...

Son, never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Lol, isn't this fun? anyone can make silly, hateful posts here, with absolutely no need for intelligence or facts. :) And no, for the record, I don't believe what I posted above, I was just making fun of someone with a nickname of "on america's side" who posts hatred. I would think that people who truly are "on american's side" wouldn't be that hateful, but hey, that's just my opinion. :)

vermontguy

You can't have a reasonable discussion with a liberal - if you'd really read and comprehend all these posts you would understand that...........so I poke a little fun at then at their expense.............and since when is the TRUTH hateful! You need to get control of your emotions!

OnAmerica:

You stick to your "truths". I'll stick to facts, thanks.

lol, what "emotions" do I need to "control"? I enjoy laughing at you. :)

Lets face it, anyone who says "you can't have a reasonable discussion with a liberal" might as well hang a sign around their neck saying "i'm a mindless hater, please laugh at me!" :)

thanks for providing free entertainment today. :)

Well, Bob for VP, either go on over to FOX where they are working 24/7 to defeat President Obama or stop whining about MSNBC.

Funny, OnAmericasSide, my dad said the same thing about repubicans.

Well, Vermontguy & Ruken, here's a fact for you - there has been more violence perpetrated by the left and the radical left than EVER committed by the Right in the name of ploitical agends.....FACT:

Lets start with the 1968 Democratic National Convention riots in Chicago where democratic controlled police were used by their leftist leaders (Mayor Daley - a democrat, and his group tried to prevent free speech) to quell demonstrations by the Students for a Democratic Society and the Yippie movement (which was a "New Left organization). All these groups involved where leftist inspired organizations and, to many, was the beginning of true political violence in American politics. All brought to you, me and the United States by the left.

I could go on but, I think this might be too much "FACT" for you two to assimilate at one time.

Jody, Iowa.....try to be original - if thats possible. Being liberal is hard enough but to believe that a liberal could have an original thought is something of an oxymoron...........you all are so full of your party's liberal cookaid you can't think beyond that point.

yeah, i'm sure obama flew to tijuana and personally sold guns to the leaders of drug cartels. Arrest him! lol

Wade - try to get your own ideas. Look up Franking priviledges of the Congress. Talk about using government money for campaigning. It is wrong and all this money in elections is worse. Corporations are not people and money is not speech but Democrats are just as guilty as Republicans in using our money to lie to us in campaigns. How about a bi-partisan movement to publicly funded campaigns? It would save all of us money and stop the innane lies on radio and Television from both sides.

Rising gas prices=NOBAMA 2012

I guess they think theres enough angry whitemen to beat Obama and the dems like there was in 2010, hanity and limbaugh definately seem to think so

I do agree with robert the high price of gas will kill the economy and obamas chance of reelection or a dem capture of the house or senate, see the gop winning everything come november

Robert@13.1===You do realize that we have been exporting gas. So please tell me how gas prices are President Obama's fault. If it is not a supply/demand problem then it has to be a greed problem.

Robert@13.1===You do realize that we have been exporting gas. So please tell me how gas prices are President Obama's fault. If it is not a supply/demand problem then it has to be a greed problem.

It's a speculator problem.

Production is up (6 year high) and demand is down (15 year low) so both should result in a price drop.

The real problems come from the Middle East, refinery production (shut downs) and speculators.

Job1, well said.

Maybe if the right-wing warrior presidential candidates stopped threatening war on Iran, the oil speculators would quit speculating as much. Throw in Syria, and the rest of the middle east unrest, the speculators are fueling the high cost of oil. The US is exporting 117 million gallons of gas every day which means they are taking advantage of the need while jacking up the price here because of lower demand and a big supply of something we're not buying. Rising gas prices was not President Bush's fault nor is it President Obama's fault. Most people recognize that.

Can't forget that those speculators driving up the cost of gas are the very ones that republicans are protecting from paying the same percentage of taxes as the rest of us.

While the republicans are protecting the hedge fund managers they then want to turn and blame President Obama for their part in increasing gas prices.

Rush like most republicans started his abusive rant on Fluke without even knowing what she said. Still the leaders of the republicans won't or can't stand up to their leader limpsomething for the spouting of lies.

I am sick of the republicans trying to make women into second class citizens without any rights in the name of religious freedom.

Want to know what it is like to live in Iran, a religious controlled state, vote for a republican for any office and find out.

Dennis- the term "production", in this case, refers to the number of rigs. Yes, there are more rigs today- many of them low yielding, on PRIVATE lands-mainly in North Dakota. The far richer fields on public lands have not been tapped.

Nor have the fields in Alaska- and don't even start on the Gulf.

Moreover, demand in THIS country is down- it is UP globally.

In order to reduce the price of gasoline, we must commit to increasing the supply of crude- and send a clear message to the market about that intent- the way Bush did in 2008, when gas hit $4 a gallon. As you recall, the price collapsed immediately after he signed executive orders opening fields and streamlining the permit process.

Killing Keystone does not send that message.

Chu's testimony before congress, that the administration is actually pleased with the price of gas, send the opposite of that message.

The voters need to send a message- something along the lines of

Obama shelved in 2012.

No, It is in barrels of oil !!

But we are the largest consumer in the world by a wide margin !!

Keystone has not been killed --

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/73329.html

No Joe,

According to the USEIA (US Energy Information Agency), domestic production declined during the Bush administration. It was 5,000,000 BPD (barrels per day) when Obama came into office. It is now 5,500,000 BPD, a 10 % increase.
http://www.examiner.com/economic-policy-in-national/u-s-oil-production-increased-10-under-obama-major-oil-discovery-gulf

International Business Times Feb 24, 2012: Gasoline demand plummeted -- down 5.4 percent, or about 500,000 barrels per day, from a year ago, marking the 24th week in a row that year-on-year demand is lower.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/304040/20120224/rise-u-s-gasoline-prices-wall-street.htm

NoJo, you didn't read the facts.

Production is up. Demand is down. We have a surplus of oil, enough of a surplus that we are exporting oil. So what is an oil company to do to keep their profits up? Speculate and raise prices, of course!

Put the blame where it belongs!

marxist! commie! kenyan! antiamerican! lol

No problem as gas continues to rise evey day, Oboobas prospects get dimmer.

No problem as gas continues to rise evey day, Oboobas prospects get dimmer.

Yea, because Obama can just flick a switch and decrease the global price of oil...

Robert, my dear, I hope you are wrong. Intelligent people realize that gas prices are not controlled by the POTUS and...more importantly....shudder that the thought of any of the Rep candidates in the White House. However, I fear that there are too many people who do not see this, as obvious as it may seem. WHICH MEANS WE SMARTIES ALL MUST VOTE IN NOVEMBER!!!! AND GET ALL OUR INTELLIGENT FRIENDS TO DO SO AS WELL! NO COMPLACENCY!!!

It's amazing just how many people don't understand that oil is sold on a global market, even oil produced here in the USA.

It's amazing just how many people don't understand that oil is sold on a global market, even oil produced here in the USA.

Wait, you mean that our Fairy Godmother won't come down and sprinkle pixie dust on the oil from Canada transported through Keystone XL to magically make it "ours"?

Wait, you mean that our Fairy Godmother won't come down and sprinkle pixie dust on the oil from Canada transported through Keystone XL to magically make it "ours"?

The recession hit her hard as well.

Dust is expensive.

That is the part that republicans don't want to tell you. The fuel from the keystone pipeline goes to the world market and not to the American market. We just get to take the chance of destroying our largest underwater ground supply for the Koch brothers to make more profit.

If they ran the pipeline across Canada, it would be a third of the length to get the sludge to an ocean to ship to the world market. Why don't they run it across Canada, because the Canadians don't want to chance destroying their enviroment.

The Koch brothers and the republicans think America is so stupid we will fall for their lies. The Koch brothers are not worried about our water supply, they only care about the oil and the money to be made. The Koch brothers bought off politicians always want to make the Koch brothers happy any way they can.

Nick@17----Nick you know the old saying, it takes an A$$hole to know an A$$hole. does this apply to you.

Nope! But, it sure sounds like you what that's about!

Only delusional people think a POTUS is responsible for the global market of oil.

Only delusion leftists think the President is not responsible for our national energy policy.

Huh, Ruken?

Steven Chu STATED in 2008 that he wanted to see our gasoline prices rise to the levels in Europe.

Now, he tries to backtrack like a typical leftard politician.

HE SAID IT. NOW, WE ALL ARE GETTING IT.

What say ye, Ruken?

Or, maybe you don't read any news other than NBC, so you probably weren't aware of his comments.

Global > National.

I say you don't have a clue.

WRONG.

Is your fearless leader railing about speculators driving oil futures through the roof- AGAIN?

Nope. That would offend his pals. Instead, he tries smoke and mirrors on oil subsidies, which DEMOCRATS voted AGAINST removing last time it was proposed because everyone with BRAIN knows that will only INCREASE our price at the pump.

You're the one without a clue, pal...with your two word answers.

lol @ someone who uses the term "libtards". Good lord, are you 12 years old? or younger? lol.

And yes, the president is (partially) responsible for a national energy policy (congress plays a role too of course), but you aren't going to have significant impact in 3 years. Here's a clue for you - we've known since the early 70s that we need a "national energy policy" that would prevent us from being held hostage by the crazies in the middle east, and we've failed gloriously..through the presidencies of both the repubs and the dems.

Its a national failure, not obama's.

Yup confirmed.

You really don't have a clue.

Where do you think Exxon Mobil's oil goes? Hint: into the global pool which is then bought and sold.

Oil Company “Subsidies” Clarified

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/03/oil-company-subsidies-clarified/

posted at 9:25
am on May 3, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

We’re still
seeing a flood of calls from both sides of the aisle to cut subsidies as part
of an overall strategy to reduce spending in Washington. While there is plenty
available to cut, there has been a steady and disingenuous conflation being
promoted by the White House which seeks to describe certain tax benefits received
by companies in all manner of industries as “subsidies for big oil.” Just
last week Tim Pawlenty was taking
to the stump in an attempt to call out these warped descriptions.

MANCHESTER, N.H.
– Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty called a White House proposal to reduced
tax breaks for oil companies “ludicrous” after a gathering of tea party
activists.

“I think we
should have a discussion about all subsidies,” Mr. Pawlenty told Washington
Wire at a forum for 2012 GOP presidential hopefuls. “But the Obama proposal is
ludicrous. I mean the worst thing we could do is raise the cost burden on costs
on energy and oil… What he’s proposing is a tax increase on energy at a time
when the gas is $4 a gallon. It’s preposterous.”

For those
seeking to sort out the definitions of the terms being used, the American
Petroleum Institute has published
a new paper doing just that.

Contrary to what
some in politics and the media have said, the oil and natural gas industry
currently enjoys no unique tax credits or deductions. Since its inception, the
US tax code has allowed corporate tax payers the ability to recover costs and
to be taxed only on net income. These cost recovery mechanisms, also known in
policy circles as “tax expenditures”, should in no way be confused with
“subsidies”, i.e., direct government spending.

Here are a few
of the items which are being incorrectly identified as “subsidies” inside the
beltway:

Intangible
Drilling Costs
– Companies which engage purely in energy exploration and discovery can recover
their costs related to exploration at tax time at a rate of 100%. This lessens
the burden on energy providers for the number of “dry holes” which may be found
in the process. Integrated companies (i.e. “big oil”) can recover these exploration
costs at 70%. Not a subsidy.

Domestic
Manufacturer’s Deduction (Section 199) – A deduction (not a credit) equal to
9% of income earned from manufacturing, producing, growing or extracting in the
United States, is available to every single taxpayer who qualifies in
the U.S. The oil and gas industry, and only the oil and gas industry, is
limited to a 6% deduction.

Percentage
Depletion
– The percentage depletion deduction is a cost recovery method that allows
taxpayers to recover their lease investment in a mineral interest through a
percentage of gross income from a well. This depletion method is not available
to companies that produce oil as well as refine and market it (i.e. “Big Oil”.)
This is available to all extractive industries (gold, iron, clay, etc) in the
US and is in no way unique to the oil and gas industry.

There are more,
so download the paper and read them for yourself. Then, when you hear your
congressman talking about all of the “subsidies” for big oil, you can set them
straight based on the facts.

To be clear, the
federal government does engage in the handing out of a lot of actual subsidies,
including those for ethanol and a variety of wasteful programs which are
essentially failures on their own merit without feeding off the teat of Uncle
Sam. And we should certainly be looking at those areas as way to address cost
cutting. But trying to depict tax credits used by the energy industry – in the
same fashion as every other industry – as some sort of special love festival
for Big Oil is dishonest.

Leading Democrat Begs the Saudis to Increase Production

Updates

February 27, 2012: Today Senator Schumer
is pleading. Literally pleading for the Saudis to increase
production.

Original
Post

Is it just me, or am I misreading this (link farther down)? Senator
"Chuck" Schumer asking the Obama administration to beg -- literally,
beg -- the Saudi's to produce more oil?

Why is he not asking the administration (his own party) to work with our own
domestic oil and gas industry to do the same thing rather than what
President Obama IS doing?

Before reading any further, see the link below to see how much Washingtonians
are paying for gasoline:

In Washington,
DC, two percent of one's income goes to gasoline.

So, now with that as background (the Obama administration
slow-rolling the US oil industry and Washingtonians paying 2 percent of their
income on gasoline) we now proceed.

Am I misreading this? Senator Schumer asking the Clinton Obama
administration to beg the Saudis to produce more oil.

Didn't Schumer's state ban fracking? Just asking. Need I say more? If
so, go back to the first link above. (I believe the Marcellus extends into New
York state.)

Anyway, here's the Schumer
press release embedded in a television news story:

Dear Secretary Clinton:

As you are aware, due to the worry turmoil in the Middle East and its
impacts on oil supplies, American consumers are facing rising gasoline
prices, with the national average price of a gallon of regular gas at $3.69.
This is nearly double 2009’s average of $1.86 a gallon and the highest
prices we have ever seen for this time of year. The price of diesel fuel
has also increased reaching $4.02 a gallon. The price of diesel fuel not only
affects truck drivers, but it pushes food and transportation costs higher for
consumers, too. The combined effect of these energy price hikes drags down our
economy, which can undercut our recovery. These skyrocketing fuel prices are
directly linked to the global energy market, particularly Iran’s recent efforts
to manipulate oil prices and the worry of impacts on supply from an escalation
of regional hostilities. To address this situation, I urge the State Department
to work with government of Saudi Arabia to increase its oil production, as they
are currently producing well under their capacity.

Saudi Arabia, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, is
averaging around 10 million barrels of oil per day. This is 2.5 million barrels
short of their approximately 12.5 million barrel capacity. These lower
production levels have a negative impact on global markets. When paired with
recent actions by Iran in halting sales to French and U.K. companies, and
threatening to stop sales to countries such as Italy, already fragile markets
are unduly roiled. These market shifts are now hitting Americans at the pump,
reverberating throughout the rest of our economy, and threatening our recovery.

"These market shifts are now hitting Americans at the pump,
reverberating throughout the rest of our economy, and threatening our
recovery." What? Two (2) percent of their income and folks in Washington
are complaining. You have got to be kidding.

First of all, turmoil in the Middle East is a very small factor when it comes
to the price of oil right now. Very little US oil comes from the Middle East
any more and the US is now a net exporter of oil (source: Public Television
business show this morning).

But for argument's sake let me give you that: if it's the turmoil in the Middle
East, it's the US that is pressing the Iranian sanctions. It wasn't China,
India, or Russia calling for sanctions. Iran calls our bluff and imposes its
own embargo shutting off oil to France and the UK.

And so now Senator Schumer is asking Hillary to beg the Saudis to increase
production? Am I missing something?

But I guess it's working: Oil futures are down 31 cents now, down to $109.46.

Which brings us to the "nut" of Schumer's request: his argument that
Saudi is producing well below its capacity. Not just a tad, not just a little,
not just a smidgen, but "well below" its capacity.

If that's accurate, there are only two explanations for their decreased
production: either they really dislike the Nobel peace prize recipient or they
are unable to increase production. Neither explanation is really very
reassuring.

Senator Schumer might want to go back and listen to the former CEO of Shell, Mr Hofmeister,
and his discussion of "business as usual."

Speaking of which, "business as usual," did Senator Schumer write a
letter to Ms Lisa Jackson, head of the EPA, imploring her to give a "nod
and a wink" to the President so he would approve the Keystone XL? Approval
of the Keystone XL would not immediately effect the price of oil, but it would
send a clear message to the American voter that it is no longer "business
as usual"with regard to how the administration will work with the domestic
oil industry going forward. That would be reassuring, and I bet the price of
WTI-NYMEX would drop $10.

Wow, take the time to read the news story linked above. Read the Schumer letter
begging the Saudis to produce more oil. Either they can or they cannot, and if
they can, and they aren't, it speaks volumes about our relationship with one of
our longest Mideast allies. (Speaking of which, how are things going in Egypt?)

Personally I don't think they can

Sure man.... have another shot...

Just like you weren't going to lose the House in '08...

You libs just love to keep lying to yourselves, saying it's all gonna be OK...

It IS going to be ok . Obama is going to win. Jealous much!?

The dems lost the house in '08? who knew? lol.

the polls show obama ahead now. Gas prices are a red flag, but the improving economy, and the discord in the GOP ranks, make an obama victory at least a 50/50 chance.

She said 3000 during law school, or 4 years. Who's not hearing very well?

Kevin feel free to leave.

Limpbaughs victim was telling how birth control pills were used for more than birth control as over a million and a half women used birth control pills for hormone therapy not birth control.

I have noticed that republicans never let the truth stand in the way of an abusive rant.

How dare women act like they are not second class citizens. The republicans plan on bringing down those uppity women who think they should have the rights to decide about their own bodies even to birth control.

If we have to pay for your Viagra then you can pay for our birth control. How about some film for that Viagra we pay for. You can send it to Limpballs. What is fair for women is fair for men.

Kevin, quick question.

If you are calling this website liberal, than why are you posting on here?? I mean, we aren't forcing you to post on here; you can leave when you want.

FOX will not allow commentary from ordinary folks. You have to be a failed politician.

Republicans know there is voter fraud as they are doing it. But it is not the people who are committing fraud, it is the ones in charge.

Being they are ones committing fraud, it is your vote they are trying to block.

Want to see what it like to live in Iran, vote for any republican and find out.

It's easy to have extra time as POTUS when Congress doesn't pass anything you propose.

how about you actually show us what part of his job he isn't doing that he is failing due to too much time on fundraisers? lol @ mike..you want him to go to afghanistan and chase taliban or something instead? :)

I love how half the time the haters complain about all the bad he's doing, and the other half they complain that he spends too much time on vacations and fundraisers.

which hatred is correct? :)

Bush was on so many vacations that he couldn't fit in the fund raisers. What President took the most vacation time?

Mike - I was with you until you decided to make it a partisan issue and then insulted the opposition.

This constant need to campaign is ruining the democratic process and it fuels the intense lobbying.

here's a clue for you - every politician running for re-election spends time fundraising and campaigning. Its what they do, at least in the current system. Try to pay attention.

mike All Presidents have to leave the W.H.. They all have done it. Your point is a waste of time. Its part of the job. The way you sound every president never left the W.H.. Give it a rest.

Mike is that a drone circling over your head? Better duck or get back where you belong-Fuxk News website.The rest of you TROLLS Go with him.

Did Republicans cut public education funding in your state as well?

I can't read half of what you're saying.

They haven't forgotten about the Hilary vs Obama bloodbath, Kevin. They just choose to ignore it, sweep it under the rug etc...That sure was ugly, wasn't it? The Obama Team (including the media) pulling the race card at every turn? I've never seen such a dramatic turnaround of LOVE into HATE the way Blacks turned on Bill and Hilary. It was great though.

anyone who says obama has NOTHING to run on is a fool. You may want to hate everything he did, but that just ignores that many people think much of what he did has value.

Thinking that everyone agrees with you is your biggest problem. :)

You can tell Kevin McNeil and Damage get all their misinformation from Fox (aka tea people GOP Koch republican propaganda machine) and Limbaugh (racist hate monger). Keep it up guys, the more you rant with your lies the better the Democratic party does.

It was actually 2008.

If you're going to go off on a tangent, it might help if you had your facts right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000s_energy_crisis

Uh, yeah. Whatever. So, why were the high gas prices Bush's fault in 2007, er...I mean, 2008, but they're not Hussein's fault in 2012?

Find me the post where I said it was.

In fact if you had read that link, you'd see exactly why it isn't.

And if you had any sense whatsoever, you'd see similar factors at work now.

Wikipedia is where you get your facts ruken ..... lol ...figures

Wikipedia is where you get your facts ruken ..... lol ...figures

Considering each claim is cited with other sources, it is a valid source.

"fluke is a slut" jokes? wow, classy. and "intelligent". You must think you are a legend in your own mind. :)

Ruken don't you know you're not supposed to mention facts to a tea people GOP Koch republican, it drives them insane, well more insane. Just when you think the tea people GOP Koch republicans can't get any more insane, they surprise you.

BTW: Damage is just a nasty little man wishing he had A fan.