In a 51-48 vote, the Senate today tabled the Blunt amendment, which allows employers -- if they have personal religious objections -- to not provide contraception coverage under the federal health-care law.
In was a mostly party-line vote. But now-retiring Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) voted with the Democrats, and three Democrats -- Bob Casey (D-PA), Joe Manchin (D-WV), and Ben Nelson (D-NE) voted with the Republicans.


This is great news, except it was too close to comfort for my taste!
I'm confused with this headline - it reads it 'defeated', yet, the article says it was tabled?
Which is it?
March on, little right wing warriors with your war on women - let's see how well THAT works out for you all in November?
Thanks Feisty,
Of three articles I have read one says "tabled" and the other two say "defeated" so I have the same question plus what is the difference?
It was defeated. It's also important we know how they voted and by the way, this is what GOP meant whenever they scream jobs, jobs, and jobs. What a shame.
Let's see what other parting gifts Sen. Snowe has in store for the GOP.
What no post office to rename?
What part of "Pay for your own goddamn birth control" am I not getting????
Lil' socialist liberals want a free lunch with/for everything.......including f*cking
I hope Mark or Domenico will confirm this, but my understanding is that the amendment was allowed to come to the floor by Senate leadership. It didn't have enough votes to pass and so is tabled. Now it would be up to Senate leadership to bring it to the floor again and Sen. Reid won't do that
Would you also require a woman who's doctor prescribes oral contraceptives pay for them herself?
I believe Steeler Fan is right on with his description. BTW: Heard that Hines Ward is no longer a Steeler.
There needs to be clarification on defeat and tabled. First Read -- Which is it?
Michael -- Prostate exams are free of charge and part of a man's check up. Prostate problems interfere with f*cking.
Hey, somebody check...does HHS have a requirement for coverage of Viagra?
People like you belive the government owes them life, health, food, shelter, a job and now orgasms.
People like me believe you get up in the morning and make a go of it.
Good point! heh heh heh!
SF,
Thanks for the explanation! I believe you are right but if all these 'word plays' are confusing to us political junkies, can you imagine poor Mr. J.Q. Public?
Michael1969: Why should women pay for birth control when you get your viagra for free. Actually, now that I think about it, I doubt very much if you need viagra seeing as no woman would even give you a second glance.
Check your local teachers contracts for that
So...uh...birth control gives you orgasms?
Thank God, a victory for women in American.
Micheal, enough of your nonsense. Tell me which block is not getting enough of government largess?
The rich live on tax cuts and pay less taxes.......who picks up the tab?
The coporations hang hope on tax cuts, bailouts..........who pays for all these?
Ignorantly, you think because you get up go means government plays no path in life. Instead of getting up go, get up and think.
Michael1969
People like you belive the government owes them life, health, food, shelter, a job and now orgasms.
People like me believe you get up in the morning and make a go of it.
Only the dimmest wit would make the most of being an ignorant bigot. Congratulations!!
Conservative talking points....as always it falls short. Contraception medication has other benefits other than Birth Control. But you wouldn't know that, since you only know what you hear on the conservative media. Dolt.
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Barely. Barely defeated. Be watchful, these people are serious about going back to pre 1960. If they can stop women from accessing birth control, they can stop women from being in the workplace due to pregnancy. Some of you don't remember those days.
I do.
GOP job plan: run women out of the workplace so men can have their jobs. After all, men don't get pregnant.
If you are reading this, and you are not FURIOUS about the GOP, there is something VERY wrong with you.
I am also BEYOND patience with this "pay for your own GD birth control." It is paid for, you morons, (sorry FR, sometimes that is the only word that applies) through insurance premiums and as part of your salary and benefit package at work.
In other words...you labor so you don't labor.
Da Noid
So...uh...birth control gives you orgasms?
I think it's the rectal probe for Michael1969; hee hee ☺ ☺
LMAO.....you moron libs....you putzes are way too easy. I couldn't care less what you do with your uterus....your business.....just keep your hands outta my wallet.
....and tax cuts are for TAX PAYERS.....not sows sucking on the teet of their neighbor Bev Babe, Feisty, et al
These old" republican toads" seem hell bent on destroying a woman's lifestyle .I guess they think a woman should walk behind them and remain silent .They are from 1948. They are the very reason we need term limits 2 in a lifetime NO RETIREMENTS !
I think we should make this very clear.....
I definately pay taxes and I definately pay for health care premiums....
I AIN'T GETTIN SH*T FOR FREE BABY!....lol
It's the "Mad Men" generation whining. They lost.
This is excellent news! The hateful, misogynistic forces of the GOP have been thoroughly bitch slapped! This is just one more nail in the coffin of the Republican Party's failed political ideology!
Obama by default in November! The GOP isn't planning on showing up for the election!
I'm confused with this headline - it reads it 'defeated', yet, the article says it was tabled?
Which is it?
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Nasty Redhead: Don't you find it SHOCKING that even a veteran FR lefty liberal like you is having difficulty translating the FR spin???
Now, the only question to be answered is whether or not it's because the incurable, progressive, mental illness of liberalism has caused you, or FR, to become the MOST addlebrained??
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/addlebrained
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael,
If you work for a large company I suggest that you have a sit-down with your benefits administrator b/c there are items that the company negotiates with the insurance company that the employees are never billed for, charged for or pay any copay for.
Man, when you're grasping for straws you sure don't mess around.....lol....you should maybe think of Googling JFK's speech on that "...What you can do for your country" thangy.....imagine how much better off we'd all be if you guys on this board were pulling your own weight.......makes ya go "hmmm"
Feisty, If I am correct, the bill was tabled because the "contraception amendment", which was attached to the President's Jobs bill, was defeated. Leader Reid won't bring the bill to the floor again until the amendment is dropped or significantly revised.
Obama/Biden 2012
Savvy -- Let's hope it is taken out and thrown in the garbage where it belongs. ; ) Thanks for the clarification.
Really? You assume that everyone on here who is a supporter of the President on this site is just some good-for-nothing freeloader trying to leech off of a good, honest, hard-working person like you?
I'm pulling my weight...paying my taxes...and since I'm in New York, it means I'm paying for all of that federal aid that is going to all of the Red States who are suckling at the teat of America.
Perhaps you should go speak to the citizens of those states and ask why they aren't pulling their weight?
If you love taxes so much, why are ya bitchin about forking over $$$ for "red states"????? According to your logic along with your ilk here, big goverment rocks!
Embrace your tax bill!!lolllll
DCIA,
Dang it! You beat me to it again! ☺
Thanks Savvy!
Don't, Harry Reid is not a fool, to the contrary, he is quite good at his job and I don't believe he will offer the bill again until the amendment is dropped or changed to the point of non-relevence. The Dems are turning the politics of the situation back onto the Repubs. This issue is a win-win for us, but it needs to be executed with skill and focused purpose.
Obama/Biden 2012
More like a return to 60 days ago as that's when the HHS issued their mandate. Who is stopping you from accessing birth control? Suddenly there's a ban on buying condoms from the local pharmacy? Put your hand in your pocket and magically birth control is available.
BTW, when did Viagra become a preventive treatment and therefore exempt from co-pays?
Really, Alan?
Here's a newsflash for you. Rules covering contraceptive coverage have been in force for years. Since Dec. 2000.
EEOC ruled that failure to provide coverage violates the 1978 Pregnancy Discrimination Act.
The real question is, Alan, why is this an issue NOW when it has been settled law? Or do the neanderthals just want to force women out of the workplace like they did prior to the 1960's?
This is simply the antichoicers trying to make contraceptives illegal, because in the little mentally ill world they inhabit, contraceptives are really abortion.
CR S538-539 SA 1520
Why does the media keep presenting the Blunt Amendment as legislation related to birth control? Other then the findings, the actual legislation only referrers to the use of the words "preventive services" in the findings and makes no mention of religiously affiliated organizations. The only place religiously affiliated organizations is mentioned is in the findings, not the actual legislation. Nothing in the legislation limits the religious and moral convictions only to birth control and/or religiously affiliated organizations.
If your employer believes that infant vaccinations cause autism, then they could request that the insurance policy no longer cover infant vaccinations due to moral convictions. This would cause all the employees to pay out of pocket for the infant vaccinations.
That is just one example. Why wouldn't employers try to eliminate as many things as possibly due to moral convictions, so they can lower the premiums they pay? Less services would result in lower premiums.
Savvy and Feisty -- Happy it was defeated and may Reid prevail in either eliminating it or marginalizing it. It was an awful piece of legislation!
[If you love taxes so much, why are ya bitchin about forking over $$$ for "red states"????? According to your logic along with your ilk here, big goverment rocks!]
Ok Mikey...time for you to move along...FoxNation and The Blaze NEED YOU!
Obama and the dems have just okay'd FREE abortion pills and rubbers for everyone no matter how rich or how poor. At the same time Obama is planning to cut healthcare benefits for the troops.
What a patriot! NOT.
Rob in ma-3189632
Have you read the actual legislation that was presented? I have included a link at the beginning of my #1.39 post to the thomas.loc.gov system that shows the Blunt Amendment that was voted on today. While the bill is being presented under the guise of birth control and religiously affiliated organizations it is actually a lot more then just that since the actually legislation does nothing to limit it to only those topics.
[Obama and the dems have just okay'd FREE abortion pills and rubbers for everyone no matter how rich or how poor. At the same time Obama is planning to cut healthcare benefits for the troops.]
Way to go, Raab...your ideological and emotional response to something you don't understand or simply know nothing about is so predictable...what...Fox "news" not carrying the TRUE story today?
Michael1969- " I definately pay taxes and I definately pay for health care premiums.... I AIN'T GETTIN SH*T FOR FREE BABY!....lol"
The women who benefit from Obama's no copays for preventive care rule also pay taxes and pay health insurance premiums. If you aren't getting anything for free, how is it you think they are? (Actually, I think you will also have no copays for preventive care that you need, as a result of provisions in the ACA)
Also, Savvy Senior, I believe the vote being discussed in this article is the vote on the amendment attached to the transportation bill. The amendment was defeated, but I haven't seen any articles discussing when the transportation bill will be voted on without the (ridiculous) amendment.
Thanks Heartlight3, for the correction. I thought it was one of the two and opted for the wrong one.
My intention, however, was to clarify the process for Feisty and Don't who were a bit confused by the
ambiguity of the FR language.
Obama/Biden 2012
Michael..
I don't think you understand this amendment. It's not narrowly confined to birth control... it basically allows employers to impose their personal beliefs to deny medical procedures for their employees, even if they don’t share those beliefs. If your employer thinks medical treatment of any particular type offends his/her sensibilities (not just a religious belief), they can refuse to cover it... hangnails, STDs, transfusions, open-heart surgery, etc.
See how this could become a big problem for just about all of us?
Santorum calls birth control evil, this guy is not Presidential material and he doesn't belong with the rest of the lot. Why give this guy coverage, the guy is a joke. The only thing hes good at is drawing flies.
The utterly absurd part of this entire dialogue is that health care plans WITHOUT contraception coverage are MORE expensive than with it because (drum roll please) it is more expensive to have children than to prevent them.
Now, commence the yammering, but this time, argue correctly that you don't want your insurance premiums to go up to cover preventable pregancies and how a little thing like insurance companies waiving copays on contraception is in everyone's best interest, and that you made a HUGE mistake sticking your nose where it doesn't belong when you have no idea what you are talking about!
The tone of these posts leads me to believe that women are naive enough to believe that they have to have abortions to keep their jobs or they will be forced out of the workplace? What absolute nonsense. Protection under the laws referenced means that being pregnant is not grounds to dimiss somebody from their job. Once again, the choice to have or not have a child rests with the women. All choices have some cost or consequence, and once again, everyone wants it for free-no costs, no repsonsibility, no strings attached....This isn't the reproductive freedom to choose, but rather being parasitic. In the case of pregnancy, "I made a mistake, and everyone else has to help me pay for it."
Sue...
This amendment isn't about abortion or contraception or "freedom"... It's about employer-based health insurance which is what about 60% of insured Americans have. It's part of their compensation as an employee just like their paycheck is part of their compensation.. just like their sick days, vacation days, lunch breaks, coffee breaks, etc. It is not a handout.
If I get the flue I go to the doctor and get some antibiotics. The doc turns in a claim to the insurance company and gets paid. Period. My employer doesn't have any business meddling in why I went or what treatment or prescriptions I got..
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I believe tabled refers something that is set aside to be looked at later...defeated is well, defeated. Let's hope this stays tabled for a long, long time.
Has something to do with 2/3 majority, and I don't believe with a vote that is this close in number, they can claim that necessary majority to avoid alteration or veto of the bill.
Okay, folks, we'll go over this one more time...
Why isn't the HHS mandate on birth control a violation of the First Amendment?
Because the mandate only requires COVERAGE for birth control and does not require USE of birth control. The individual is still free to not use birth control in accordance with the tenets of the Catholic Church.
There, see? It's so simple. Now, can we move on?
(...or is the argument going to be something along the lines of "Corporations Are People And Therefore The Catholic Church Is A Person"?)
The problem is conservatives view the word choice as a very very bad word. Somehow or another conservatives view the constitution as a document of convience and have no problem tearing it up to make us into a theorcracy. To which I say no thank you
Yesterday Chris Matthews was discussing the retirement of Olympia Snowe. During the conversation he described Ben Nelson as a moderate democrat. He actually co-sponsored the Blunt amendment and also nearly always votes alongside the right-wing looney tunes. I guess Chris Matthews thinks moderate means voting with the opposition.
Does anybody else think Ben Nelson is a moderate?
He's about as moderate as I am! ;o)
Ramboet---can't get on up above but you are correct---Steelers released Hines Ward yesterday. A sad but inevitable day in Steeler Nation. In 2012 he would have been the 4th or 5th wide receiver.
P.S. I'm a she, not a he! Girls are Steeler fans, too!!
P.P.S. I think Matthews has been spending too much time in the 60s with his JFK book and not paying attention to current events. Someone on FT pointed out he expressed shock that the Michigan delegates were proportional.
Sorry Steeler Fan for thinking you are a male. I agree that Steeler fans can be female too. I am a huge Bears fan myself ..... and my motto is "Next year". ha ha ha!!
Back to the Blunt amendment. I think women should be pretty worried about how close the vote was and Susan Collins ought to be ashamed of herself. I guess she was worried that the old white farts were going to push her out like they did with Olympia Snowe. perhaps her constituents will do it for them seeing as she is obviously not voting based on their interests.
As for Michael1969 -- Jerk and a loser.
Did someone mention da Bears? lol
Not to mention sexually frustrated...
Ramboet--I root for the Bears in the President's and Feisty's (and now your) honor and because QB Cutler is a Vanderbilt alum.
Today's exercise will show which group is more in tune with American voters---the Republicans who see this as a religious freedom battle or the Democrats who see it as an attack on women's rights. But at the same time it also shows the disconnect between Washington and the rest of the country. Senator Blunt played politics with a housing bill and the Democrats played right back. I don't think that is what most people want.
http://twitter.com/#!/girly_bits ....AKA...Feisty??
LOL Crusty Redhead....you funny girl
how cliche'
I guess the democrats are sad to see Olympia Snowe go. They could almost always count on her support for liberal issues... I think her voting record more than proves what ideology she believes in, and she was a true republican in name only.
This bill may not come to the floor again, but you can be sure, there'll be another attempt all dolled up attached as some other amendment. We cannot let our guard down, and shame on Susan Collins and the other republican women who voted against it. Ben Nelson, you could've voted against it, you're leaving the Senate and thank goodness for that. Robert Casey and Joe Manchin you are not for women or are Democrats, all you appear to be interested in, is saving your seat. We dont need people like you in Congress, we need people who will stand up for us and vote for all your constituents regardless of what your personal or religious beliefs may be.
There are two battles in politics. The first is over the actual sides to arguments. But the second is over what the argument is about. And every day that the discussion is about birth control is a day that the Democrats win the second battle.
The Repubs ask "wheres the jobs". Their solution- have a vagina discussion(no women allowed). Thats good common GOP salt of the earth logic.
Speaker Boehner:
Who cares if the bill comes to the floor again. Once Obama Care is deemed unconstitutional its all out!
[Once Obama Care is deemed unconstitutional its all out!]
Boy, are YOU gonna be one unhappy camper...don't hold your breath...
...check that...go ahead...hold your breath...
[its all out]
Not necessarily because the severance is also to be considered by SCOTUS. One full day is scheduled to hear arguments on that issue of the 3 days scheduled.
I, have never figured out why Chris Matthews show is repeated... Even more puzzling is, why he has guests
on his show... He asks a question and talks over and interrupts their answer to give his answer, which in his
mind, is the only right answer... What an inflated EGO... And, in his Inflated EGO, He actually thinks he
is playing Hardball, not Goofball... He also get shivers up his leg over Politics... Ewwwww.... LMAO
The blunt truth is this. Women are the majority in this country and if these gop clowns continue this insult to them, there will be a panel of women to decide the male healthcare fate. There will be NO viagra for their ED, there will be NO rubbers. NO Strip clubs and prostitution for them. NO prostrate treatments, Hefty child support ordered at conception thru 30yrs of age and mandatory anal probing with a 4x12 wire brush 4x a year. Eat that repub pigs.