Feisty, talk about new polls, here is another -

Even if Chris Christy runs as VP on the Romney ticket a recent poll shows that our President would win New Jersey by 49-43.

Now that’s home lovin for ya

Feisty--My favorite part of this VCI trend is that the Republicans are doing the heavy lifting for the President. Wait til he gets out there in campaign mode. Then we'll really see some movement.

Dennis---do you think Christy would take the VP nomination?

Steeler Fan,

No! He wants to be on top of the 2016 ticket in an open election. He is campaigning for/with
Romney to increase his national exposure.

Oh! No! There goes that positive word again! You know that Republicans hate anything positive about President Obama! Here comes the hate in 3..2..1..

OBAMA: Favorable 51% / Unfavorable 45% ... SANTORUM: Fav 34% / Unfav 37% ... ROMNEY: Fav 33% / Unfav 46% (ABC/WashPost)

I think Christie will hold out to run for President in 2016. I can't see him wanting to be VP in 2012--it might decrease his chances of winning the Presidency in the following cycle. I could be wrong, but I think he wouldn't want to settle for VP--all or nothing!

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

...do you think Christy would take the VP nomination?

Nope. Unless he suddenly lost his mind. He said. "He likes his current job..."

States with the largest budget shortfall in 2011:

1-Nevada – Gov. Brian Sandoval (R)

2-Illinois – Gov. Pat Quinn (D)

3-Arizona – Gov. Jan Brewer (R)

4-New Jersey – Gov. Chris Christie (R) **

5-Maine – Gov. Paul LePage (R)

** After over 2 years in office look how well he has done – Christie for President, anyone?!?

http://money.msn.com/investing/10-states-struggling-to-pay-bills

Dennis, dont you have to judge Christie in the same manner as this poll or how Backhouse did it in todays other recommended column? Dont you need to compare where it was so if the budget shortfall was twice as much before Christie took office, then you posture it as a positive? So just like Obama's VCI index was negative 50 and now negative 21, you should judge Christie through that same lens.

A lot of people, myself included, would lose a lot of respect for Christy if he ran for VP with Romney.

I respected the man when he said he wasn't ready to be president. If he doubles back and takes the number 2 spot a heartbeat away from being the president I have to consider everything that he has said a lie.

Well said Feisty, well said!

"That improvement tracks with declining unemployment, better economic news, and the Republican primary"

The Republican primary.......that's really telling!...The Republicans are destroying themselves. Thank Goodness!

Just goes to prove that you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time!....or something like that!

Kirk,

He eliminated the shortfall he received and balanced his budget so why is there another shortfall?

Doesn’t he know how to control spending?

All the crazy Obama basher's are tearing up FR's report "Winning UGLY. They will be here shortly!

I can feel their heads exploding NOW!!

OBAMA 2012

Republicans can fool their base all of the time, Independents some of the time, and Democrats don't have any time for republicans. Obama/Biden 2012!

Wonder why we haven't heard how Obama is going to deal with this:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Mortgage giant Fannie Mae said Wednesday that it lost money in the fourth quarter and is asking the federal government for nearly $4.6 billion in aid to cover its deficit.

Taxpayers have spent more than $150 billion to prop up Fannie and Freddie, the most expensive bailout of the 2008 financial crisis. The government estimates that figure could top $259 billion to support the companies through 2014 after subtracting dividend payments.

"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be
a one-term president"

Looks like yet ANOTHER failed republicon agenda.

The Grasping Old People are losing their grip.

States with the largest budget shortfall in 2011:

Wow! 4 to 1 Tea Bags are hands down the winners! Aren't they suppose to the fiscally responsible ones? Well as usual that was like all the GOTP talk, a load of crap!

The GOP the original barrow and spend party.

RealAmericans: no not lost their grasp...just shifted it over to 'vaginal probes'....

White Collar Auto,

Wonder why we haven't heard how Obama is going to deal with this:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Mortgage giant Fannie Mae said Wednesday that it lost money in the fourth quarter and is asking the federal government for nearly $4.6 billion in aid to cover its deficit.

Taxpayers have spent more than $150 billion to prop up Fannie and Freddie, the most expensive bailout of the 2008 financial crisis. The government estimates that figure could top $259 billion to support the companies through 2014 after subtracting dividend payments.

Perhaps we can ask Newt Gingrich to advise them for a small six figure fee.......historically speaking.

Steeler Fan, your comment is right on the mark. President Obama has not even begun to campaign yet! Romney's speech, Santorum's speech, Gingrich's speech last night in their entirety could not hold a candle to just 1- minute of Mr. Obama's speech to the UAW. The energy, charisma and message will not and CANNOT be matched! You just can't teach that...or so it seems with this GOP slate. :)

Obama 2012!

Dennis, I would have to understand what his fixed entitlement growth spending in his budget. My guess if its like Illinois is that the growth in the union contracted entitlement benefits is much higher than the rate of tax revenue growth. Sort of like the federal budget. So if entitlement spending for health care is growing 15% and union pension accruals along with the growth in state union employees is growing probably around 8-9% and all the discretionary items that state legislators love to budget is growing at 5%, sort of hard to have revenue growth higher than gdp growth in an already high tax jurisdiction where your higher income earners are leaving the state or investing in ways that avoid having to pay income tax. So far Christie has been a blessing to this country too bad he isnt running for president.

Chilled,

As it pertains to the rethugli-cant's: they can fool themselves and their diehard supporters all of the time, but the majority of Americans none of the time. I mean just look: george bush actually had the support of 20% of all Americans when he left office. Now if we could just get rid of the rethugli-cons in Congress, then maybe things would really get better.

Ah yes. I sure hope Santorum wins. Either one will be beaten this fall, but Romney will be able to flip flop in order to appeal to the voters on a national scale, but Santorum will stick to his religious fanaticism and be beaten by a greater margin. Although I admire his apparent honesty in sticking with policies that are obviously losers, he'll pay a heavy price.

It appears that Chris Christie was advised to wait for the next train - so he would not get TEA all over himself.

The 2012 election cycle is more about purging the lunatic fringe from the GOP than about winning back the White House. The establishment Reagan Republicans understand that the electorate is not the lunatic fringe (left or right) - the electorate is center right on fiscal issues and center left on social issues. Obama is positioning himself to be fiscally center right (believe it or not) and socially center left. Most elections - including this one - are fought in the center.

The Republican candidates have almost eliminated the GOP chances at winning back the White House. That is apparent by the improving numbers for Obama. At some point the establishment Republicans will switch emphasis to Congressional races - where the real political battle is going to be fought.

The presidential election is Obama's to lose - he is running unopposed.

I hope the outcome of all of this, is that the Republican party re-invents itself.

I hope the New GOP becomes more like the old, pre-Tea-Party GOP.

I hope then, we can have debate, instead of holding the nation hostage, to get their way (get rid of McConnel, Cantor, Ryan etc)

I hope then, that we are not talking about birth control and DOMA.

I hope then, we are not talking about attacking more countries because well, you know, America is Exceptional.

Wow, really like the spin for Mr. Obama in this article.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 25% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -15.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Sheeesh, what happened to the other 35% ? See, even Rasmussen spins the figures.

Polls mean absolutely NOTHING. Mr. Obama will NOT be re-elected based upon his failed Domestic and International agenda. PERIOD !!

This was a cartoon of Newt by the NY Daily News in 1995, but, sadly, it now pretty well represents the whole GOP.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/Nydailynews_newt.jpg

Nerm-L: yes, what a sad state the GOP has gotten itself into! All driven by their unadulterated hatred for Mr. Obama from Day 1, their strategy to obstruct and reject everything he did regardless of cost to Americans and Country. They sold their own right-wing Christian souls and even trounced on their Biblical teachings of love for others (even thy enemies)...and in front of the world have shown themselves to be hateful Hypocrites.

Yet, I would not say Mr. Obama is "unopposed" because hatred can be a formidable enemy. However, I do firmly believe love conquers hate in the end.

Obama 2012!

The best thing the Dems can do is offer to pay for more republican debates.

TO: ldo who wrote:

"...Polls mean absolutely NOTHING. Mr. Obama will NOT be re-elected based upon his failed Domestic and International agenda..."

The majority of the American People like President Obama's "agenda" a thousand times better than what Republicans have in store for Working Americans.

Republicans = More Tax Cuts for the Rich, Pay Cuts for Working Americans.

There is absolutely NO reason for working Americans to vote for any Republican.

Obama / Biden 2012

I like the way you think, We can do it! I am a progressive and a Democrat, but I want a sensible GOP that we can debate with and reach compromise with. Compromise that is good for the WHOLE country!

We don't need a TeaParty/JohnBirch/RonPaul/Santorum crazy GOP. IF Mittens would stand up and defy these crazy people, he would get a lot more traction. I still think he would lose, but he would be doing his party (and the Nation!) a great service.

@ imwhitewolf......

You are absolutely spot on!

Ido - as usual, your data interpretation skills are abysmal.

Here's a primer from Nate Silver on reading Rasmussen's polls:

Before Citing a Poll, Read the Fine Print

It would help, of course, if the polling organizations were more upfront about disclosing their methodology rather than burying the information in the fine print. Ipsos is not the only offender here. The company Rasmussen Reports, for instance, recently adopted a hybrid approach in which it uses an online panel to supplement results from its automated telephone polling, but I rarely see this mentioned when Rasmussen Reports polls are cited.

Paris. post 1.29

Well stated and true.

I hope the outcome of all of this, is that the Republican party re-invents itself.

February 2016

Today GOP frontwaddler Gov. Chris Christie (NJ) stated, "From this day forward, the Republican Party will be known as the "Flubbber Party". Because flubber is a substance that can bounce back from anything, is flexible, and can copy ink pictures directly from the Sunday funny papers. Our new party will continue in historical ways to flub elections, stretch the truth, and bounce government checks, all in our attempt to satisfy our wealthy and corporate constituencies."

"I hope the New GOP becomes more like the old, pre-Tea-Party GOP."

Not gonna happen.

There aren't enough of the old country club fiscal conservative Republicans left to carry an election.

They're dependent on the southern, racist, rednecks, and the "separation of church and state makes me wanna vomit" crowd now,and they can't win ANYTHING without them.

They are now permanently schizo.

Yeah, Ido, like Republicanmussen - I mean Rasmussen - paints an accurate picture on any poll. They were the only poll to pick Santorum over Obama in the general election. Out of at least 20 different polling organizations.

Also, notice that the VCI number you list for Obama is 5 points better than the one in the article, which was a positive for him.

It's just sad watching you guys spin around in circles.

TO: Puh-lease who wrote:

""The single most important thing we [Republicans] want to achieve is for President Obama to be
a one-term president""

What ever happened to their most important thing being JOBS JOBS JOBS? Republicans have NOT created ONE SINGLE JOB. At least President Obama is working for us, whereas Republicans have done absolutely nothing but stalled our growth and recovery efforts!

WHEN will Republicans say that the American People are "the single most important thing"? Never, because Republicans are obsessed with making themselves rich, so they ONLY cater to the wealthy.

Just like Romney said, he's not worried about the poor, and Bush Sr. said "there will always be the poor" unless it comes to stealing our social security money and denying us quality health care.

Obama / Biden 2012

Dennis

NJ looks at the candidate's party, not the candidate. Our two senators each work primarily for foreign lands, not NJ nor the USA. One works exclusively for the State of Israel and the other one supports all Latin-American lands.

Moreover, the old one was elected illegally, directly counter to NJ law. If you recall, when Robert Torricelli was exposed as being so crooked as to not be a sure thing in the senatorial election, the Democrats un-retired Frank Launtenberg and put him on the ballot quite illegally. Of course, he won. He would have beat Lincoln.

NJ likes taxes, myriads of tiny political units (townships, boroughs, cities), rampant government unions, teacher incapable of any intellectual challenges to the kids (since most of them are dumb guys who took the job to avoid national service) and nepotism even worse than that of the movie industry.

Reform the GOP! post 1.32

I totally agree with your post, the only problem is the right wing haters have a death grip on the GOP and I'm afraid that will not change any time soon. I think if asked most Americans would say that they miss our two party system of debate and compromise and despise the GOP tactic of hate and obstruction.

Fiesty,

You little devil you.................!! West Texas Intermidiate Crude was at 106.85 today. Gasoline prices will continue to go up and the oil price and gasoline price will drive up the pricing on EVERYTHING!! Thus the very real possibility of a major recession looms ..................!!

Need a margarita yet??

You little devil you.................!!

Who me??? *bats eyelashes*

Need a margarita yet??

Only if you join me!

Good to see ya Tex! ☺

I'm Just Sayin..............

That Icon is hilarious!

Just because MSN says it, doesn't mean it's true.

Gee...this article means nothing! Gasoline prices keeps going up, up, up! When it blows past $4.00 a gallon then it will be 100% higher in the next couple months than when Obama first came to office. How sanguine do you think the voters will be about Obama after they see their grocery bills skyrocketing as a result of higher gas prices? Also, all those hidden Obama scandals that the Leftist national media (including this one, MSNBC) are hiding are just waiting to burst forth. Hmmmm...and you know the GOP is saving all its most devastating evidence of how corrupt the Obama's administration is for just the right time! Can you say Fast and Furious, because it is about to rear it's ugly head in full disclosure soon. So, I would not be such 'happy campers' here because 'Judgement day' is just around the corner.

We will see then how good Barack Hussein Obama polls are! Have a nice day!

These numbers don't mean anything. Wait til the primaries are over, and the republicans stop attacking each other, and start pointing out the endless string of failure that has been Obamas presidency.

Obama has zero chance of re-election. He's wasting his time by even trying. The last couple years have just been Bushes third term. When he loses to Romney I'm going to win a 12 pack from my brother. It's gonna be a good day.

Christie? no way...

I don't think anybody wants the V.P. slot unless they are totally unknown and any exposure they get could help them. To anyone that already has any cred, hooking your wagon to a dead horse is a definite career killer or at least a big step backwards. The Republicans don't have a great shot at winning this election for the White House and the serious contenders will stay clear of this whole mess and start working on their 2016 campaign aspirations.

Mike - Sarah Palin is available, and I think she meets all your criteria.

Oh boy, pmsnbc put out another biased story about how great obumbo is doing and all you libs think you have it made. Spin it anyway you want but this failed president in GONE this Nov.

Don't worry about energy prices, when they go high enough Americans stop driving and the price goes down. Regardless, prices in the winter are lower than the summer, so it won't be a factor.

Wait until the gas prices hit 5 and 6 bucks. Also...Obama wasn't stupid when they decided to let the full weight of Obamacare hit after this election. It is being challenged as illegal by more than half the country... and going to trial. But if it does go into effect...be ready for the dung to hit the fan 100 ways from Tuesday. I have read most of it. You will not beleive what Reid put into that bill.

p.s. hey Eric... prices are lower in the winter so it won't be a factor? That doesnt make sense. They'll be sky high this summer when it will make a difference!

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL-*pretzel*?

You mean, to go with your Kool-Aid?

All that needs to be said about your dear leader is that it takes Republicans hammering each other during their primary to increase BamBam's VCI. And even with the increase, he's still at a -21. His VCI will plummet again the minute the national average gas price hits $4.00 a gallon. But you guys just go ahead and keep glad-handing each other with joy. Oh, and as for Paris' comment that "President Obama has not even begun to campaign yet," well, I've never seen him stop campaigning since he took office.

Mr. 29 - where've you been, son?

It was the GOP that insisted that the health care bill not take effect until 2014.

They didn't want anyone seeing the benefits before they got one more crack at the White House.

Obama's numbers have gone up because he has republican candidates campaigning for him, by nature of their impossible rants on social issues and the prospect of further cutting revenue as a way of balancing the budget. They have lost working people, women, and just about everybody except maybe the evangelical Christians who love one candidate and not so much the other. It's amazing that the Catholic candidate lost the Catholics, bottom line is the whole republican party has done it's part one way or the other to make Obama look like the most reasonable and sound thinking choice for the most people. Welcome to Waterloo John, Eric and Mitch.

Gas prices are skyrocketing and all you hypocrites do is bash republicans. Under the same circumstances, Bush was bashed DAILY over the high price of gas. Lets wait and see how $5-6 a gallon of gas works for the economy.

Wow, what a low bar for all the cheerleaders of the democrats. As 40 percent strongly disagree only msnbc can look at this as a positive. Bahahahahah!

RealAmericansFirst,

Mike - Sarah Palin is available, and I think she meets all your criteria.

I don't know if even Sarah Palin would want the V.P. slot. She'd do better running as a third party candidate picking up the voters that won't vote for Obama, but don't want to vote for Romney.

Did I read the story correctly? Did it says -21 in Feb and the feisty lil red headed is throwing her underwear up in the air in celebration? I believe the dash in front of 21 is a negative number in case u did not know Lil red RIDING Hood!

dennis (1.7) -- something else to consider. looks like FY2012 will be tough for some democrat governors since 7 of them lead states that are projected to have the largest budget shortfalls.

State Projected FY 2012 shortfall
(in millions of dollars)

California (D)
$21,300

Illinois (D)
17,000

New Jersey (R)
10,500

Texas (R)
10,000

New York (D)
8,200

Connecticut (D)
3,800

Minnesota (D)
3,800

North Carolina (D)
3,000

Ohio (R)
3,000

Florida (tie) (R)
2,500

Oregon (tie) (D)
2,500

Judging from the number of comment from the RWNJ's claiming; 'these numbers mean nothing'.

Why?

Because THEY say SO! *wink wink*

It's not too obvious they are wetting themselves... lmao

Better luck next time Chumps!

Dennis wrote:

States with the largest budget shortfall in 2011:

1-Nevada – Gov. Brian Sandoval (R)

2-Illinois – Gov. Pat Quinn (D)

3-Arizona – Gov. Jan Brewer (R)

4-New Jersey – Gov. Chris Christie (R) **

5-Maine – Gov. Paul LePage (R)

** After over 2 years in office look how well he has done – Christie for President, anyone?!?

http://money.msn.com/investing/10-states-struggling-to-pay-bills

Spin it anyway you want but here are more facts to consider:

Jan Brewer replaced democrat Janet Napolitano in Jan 2009

Chris Christie replaced democrat Jon Corzine in Jan 2010

Paul LePage replaced democrat Jon Balacci in Jan 2011

Democrat Pat Quinn replaced democrat Rod Blabojevich in 2009

Of the top 5 only Nevada had a republican replaced by a republican. Also note none of the republicans had any more time than President Obama to try to straighten out their individual states mess.

Who made the mess and who is cleaning it up?

Fiesty,

Yes Maam, If I am ever in Illinois..........!

TO: Mr. 29 who wrote:

"...Obama wasn't stupid when they decided to let the full weight of Obamacare hit after this election. It is being challenged as illegal by more than half the country..."

Why is it that when Republicans make up tall tales, they make up numbers too?

The ONLY people who are challenging "Obamacare" are rednecks and racists. Not even the Rich have spoken out against Obamacare and they are the ones who may ultimately end up paying for the biggest part of Obamacare.

Just about every single working person in America is FOR quality health care for all Americans, which is why Obamacare passed in the first place.

Obama / Biden 2012

Edward,

I didn’t write I posted data from an article.

Every one of them [Governors], by law, had to balance
their budget so how did they get in soo much trouble in a year or two?

Dennis,

That is kin to saying how did President Obama get us so much trouble in his 3 years in office. Spin, I epected nothing less.

Just about every time these ANTI-AMERICAN GOP candidates open their mouths, support for Obama goes up.

Edward,

Presidents are not reqiured to balance yheir budgets but Govenors are.

Governors do not create budgets that have a defecit.

I find it interesting that Santorum sees the college thing as a "snob" thing. Even if it was true that Obama said that he wants everyone to go to college (which is a total fabrication by Santorum - good Christian, huh?) why is it such a bad thing? He's got college degrees (bunch of them actually) so why is college a liberal thing all of a sudden?...oh, yes, I forgot. Santorum feels that only the selected elite should WANT to go to college. The rest of us "losers" should not even dream about it.

Talk about killing another American Dream by Santorum.

AG,

I get your point, but I think that what many "republicans" are against with regards to Obama care or any other perceived form of "welfare" is just that. For example, my Mother is retired and volunteers at the local hospital. When I was at her home the other day she recanted a story about a young girl who came into the hospital that had just had a baby. The young girl wanted to know where she went to sign so that she didn't have to pay for the baby or the care she received. This made my Mother mad as a hornet. My Dad had cancer and died in that same hospital and she had to pay for it. We are not in the 1%. I am fairly sure that my Mother is neither a redneck nor a racist, merely a woman that had to work for what she has.

Dennis,

Annual budget deficits (or balanced annual budgets) and debt are two completely different animals. Also, I quite aware that presidents don't have balance budgets, in fact that's the job of Congress. The President isn't that powerful, by design.

Nero fiddled while Rome burned... Looks like the lefties have their fiddles out today.

Edward,

Yes I know the difference.

So it is your opinion that States do NOT consider debt in their budgets?

If I ever felt the urge to throw up it would have to be the blatant love affair that the "NON BIASED" First Read opinion pages. I mean really...can you see the drool dripping from the pages as the follow Obama around looking for scraps. Either they got a tingly feeling up their leg or the truth reporting passed with Tim Russert.

As for Obama, he will pass as well, the Democrats are looking for anything to show a ray of sunlight into the cloudy dreary days of 2012. Thanks for the great foreign policy stand point Obama, really appreciate the gas prices going up and the fudged numbers on unemployment...who really wants to count the unemployed that stopped looking for jobs...unless they are Union...I guess they do not matter.

EdwardWI

The Republicans claim that they are the only fiscally responsible ones but yet they are not able (or have ever been able) to prove it.

While the unemployment rate under Romney did fall (from 5.6 to 4.7) in Mass, it was largely due to contraction of the labor force and the only state that saw a sharper drop in its labor force during Romney’s term was Louisiana, the state that was destroyed by Hurricane Katrina in 2005. Massachusetts lagged behind the country in virtually every economic measure under Romney’s term but after Romney left, the Mass economy has rebounded much faster from the next recession it faced (under a Democrat), creating jobs at nearly twice the national rate and ranking in the top 10 nationally.

Romney campaign does not challenge this statistic but explains that he took office in the midst of a recession -which is true. But since he could not do it for Massachusetts, how is he going to be able to do it for the country??????

So again Edward, the Republicans claim they can do it better, yet they cannot do it on the state level which is way easier than fixing fifty of them.

Real - "It was the GOP that insisted that the health care bill not take effect until 2014."

You mean the ones that didn't vote for it? and didn't have the white house, the senate or the house? But they had enough power to push everything off until 2014? Are you really that clueless? It was pushed out to 2014 so it looked like it was paid for, you know 10 years of paying for 6 years of PBO care.

If you are going to defend your guy/team, at least TRY to look intelligent or at least not stupid doing it.

Oh go ahead and rip on Bush, Rick,Mit or Newt and all you will get from me is nodding my head up and down because they are no better than PBO.

Mike,

I thought he fiddled...........Hell what do I know??

MIke, I don't think gay drama queens are allowed in the GOP....

Dennis - "Every one of them [Governors], by law, had to balance
their budget so how did they get in soo much trouble in a year or two?"

Well lets see, in MN they delayed payments to schools, borrowed tobacco money and borrowed from future Revenues, basically kicking the can down the road. How do you think they balance the budgets?

Dennis, Columbus, Ohio

So it is your opinion that States do NOT consider debt in their budgets?

The New Jersey Constitutional provision regarding debt is shorter, but its purpose is clear. http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/lawsconstitution/constitution.asp">Article VIII, Section II, Subsection (2), states in part:

No general appropriation law or any other law appropriating money for any State purpose shall be enacted if the appropriation contained therein, together with all prior appropriations made for the same fiscal period, shall exceed the total amount of revenue on hand and anticipated which will be available to meet such appropriations during such fiscal period, as certified by the Governor.

Dennis, you can explain these things until you are blue in the face because these people are in denial.

Did anyone see the article regarding the Keystone Pipeline today. It's not a great America saver. Yet, once again, Boehner is pushing the hell out of it.

saver? you mean like wind and solar?

Yet again the left is pushing the hell out of it.

Damn It Mike,

Are we dancin or fiddlin.??? Damn son, pick one and stay with it!

Obama on the rise, according to msnbc's poll; no surprise here, msnbc is actively working all out to get him reelected.

By contrast, Gallup shows Romney 50% - Obama 46%, and Obama 49% - Santorum 48%.

FormerSGT

If I ever felt the urge to throw up

Is "throwing up" the new "shoving down my throat" favorite verse of the TPGOP?

"Separation of Church and State makes me want to throw up" - this is like spitting on the graves of the Founding Fathers!

It is enlightening to read the posts. What exactly has Obama done that you all approve of so much?

The most curious thing about the posts on the Vine is how many of you left wingers comment on how angry and hateful the republicans are. But when I read through the posts, the vast majority of the negative, angry and hateful comments are coming from the left.

Alas, I am not surprised, just like Obama, the left wing Vine posters believes that if they say something long enough and repeat it enough, the masses will believe it. Unfortunately for the USA, that does seem to be working.

One thing that intrigues me is, if Obama gets re-elected and the economy fails to improve and unployment remains high, will all of you continue to blame Bush?

This will change with a few more flag-draped coffins. 4% drop in two days after two dead soldiers for Quran burning. Especially hearing that rules of engagement have changes so soldiers are kept from protecting themselves.

Ooooh.. yet some more bad news for MSNBC and Feisty:

Rasmussen Daily Poll re: Obama's performance.....25% stronly approve, 40% strongly disapprove. What is Feisty reading besides Obama's prostitutes NBC and MSNBC?

Oh no, Feisty missed another one! Brookings says Obama performance rating among Florida VOTERS ----approve 46%, disapprove 52%.

My God things are looking good for the democrats. President Obama in a near landslide, starting to trend landslide. Oh happy days.

The important statistic is the favorable going up for the president. The rest doesn’t mean much because there are so many new variables in this election. Most notably the unsatisfactory GOP/TP candidates, who aren’t likely to improve by the VP selection, including Chris Christie.

As pointed out above, Christie isn’t ready for prime time. He’s trying to lose weight—he says it’s because he is now in his fifties and needs to think about his family. So maybe he is preparing for 2016. But he may not fare well even as governor because New Jersey is going bankrupt (per Post #1.7). And once again, such an obnoxious man is not presidential material, let alone the health concerns.

Keep in mind that the GOP has a seniority system of paying dues and helping the current candidate, and then becoming the VP, then running as POTUS, then losing, then repeating. (The Dems don’t recycle.) Based on the Republican system, Christie would do well to run as VP, but also as pointed out above, it would make him look like a flip-flopper.

In follow-on to the post by Paris – I agree. I have never heard so much crap in my life than Santorum’s speech, with Romney just repeating what Santorum said because Romney has no core or original thought of his own.

David-3994413 – You need to stop listening to Michael Savage. If you don’t have the self discipline to turn him off, take the Hate Radio out of your vehicle. That goes for the rest of the right-wing riff raff in here posting BS about gas prices, the Affordable Care Act, Fast and Furious (Dubya's Operation Wide Receiver), and did I miss Solyndra? You all think the president is behind the hybrid seed conspiracy too, don't ya you ignoramuses.

Educate yourself before you vote. Voting is a responsibility, not just a privilege.

The Democratsterone is quite high here on MSN.

1. Just remember, when the economy was tumbling in 2008 President Obama was pushing his failed Obamacare. ( I wish it did not fail, But it will be found unconstitutional.)

2. When the Gulf Oil crisis occurred, President Obama was no where to be found, No one knew who was in charge of the crisis. He finally put BP in charge of the crisis (a foreign company).

3. In our deepest part of recession. The President Obama's wife took her closet 40 friends on Air force One to Spain (on tax payer dollar) for a vacation.

4. When President Obama had a filibuster proof Senate and the house under his control for over one year, nothing passed. Pelosi and the Democrats blamed Republicans for stoping the President Obama agenda from happening. How this possible? The Democrats controlled both houses and had a Filibuster proof Senate. What stop President Obama were the Democrats themselves.

Title of article:

'As GOP race continues, voter confidence in Obama improves'.

I call BS on this article. Please media, keep your meddling and bias out of politics. You look silly everytime you predict or form conclusions outside your realm of understanding.

BTW Feisty, the only one 'spinning pretzels' is you.

Jeffersonwasright -- I have not seen you post before, at least not by this moniker. But if you read the Vine all the time, I'll take you at your word (wink, wink). Because the many achievements during Obama have been listed many times in this forum--aside from bin Laden--in relation to the 300+ heavy lift legislation passed just during Pelosi's first term. This in comparison to Boehner and his Do Nothing Teapublican Obstructionists (during the three weeks out of four weeks worked) they passed only 30 bills or so naming buildings and other nonsense.

The anger from the Left began with the unnecessary invasion of Iraq, and went from there with warrant-less wiretaps, to outing a CIA operative, to the Dept. of Justice playing politics, to a long list of scandals in the Republican Party. Fast forward to the present week with statements by Santorum about no Separation of Church and State, attacking JFK's speech, and education.

It's the other way around, with progressives wondering why conservatives hate the president so much--other than his race, of course, but what has President Obama done that's anywhere as egregious as the crap Republicans have done (some mentioned above)? None! You right-wingers have nothing to criticize the president about except with all the lies you make up.

I'll answer your simple-minded question. As long as we continue to be hampered by Republican/Bush-era voodoo economic policies such as tax cuts for the rich, corporate welfare subsidies, deregulation, attacks against middle class workers and programs, I will continue to blame a slow recovery on Bush. 'K'?!

I know all you tea-publicans have been praying for $5.00 or higher gasoline as your only hope of beating President Obama but it looks like even that won't work. The price of crude has 3 days in a row. Experts see that trend continuing. More good news for real Americans: more bad news for tea-publicans.

chester12 -- WTF does the comparison to Carter have to do with points made in my post? A comparison was also made to Bush Sr. and Dubya. My point is variables are different now. For example, Dubya was reelected because we were mid-way into the Iraq war, and many felt he should be given more time to make better of the situation, plus Kerry was not a strong candidate for the Dems. President Obama is doing better than Carter or Bush Sr., AND he also is not up against a strong opponent, which improves his chances in comparison to them, get it?

Thanks for making my point for me that YOU lack critical thinking skills, as well as reading comprehension.

chester12

Return to school and brush up on your reading and reasoning skills

didn't you see the republican memo? Education is for snobs!!!

I noticed the first thread collapsed as usual. So I made sure I read it.

I don't know IDO. Just maybe the other 35% realized they were all talking out both-sides of their mouths and just gave up on anyone doing what is right for the American ppl.

IDO says

Wow, really like the spin for Mr. Obama in this article.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 25% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -15.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Sheeesh, what happened to the other 35% ? See, even Rasmussen spins the figures

It's funny to see all the Obama supporters....

I won't call you liberals, because no TRUE liberal could support Obama in good conscience.

They come here, agree with each other, vote each other up, then congratulate themselves on how clever they are.

Too bad you guys are all just kidding yourselves. You guys should maybe wander outside of your comfort zone once in a while. You know, step away from Obama's "truth teams" for a little while and see what the rest of the world is doing. As long as you just stay here in your insulated little world of sycphancy, you will never hear anything except one side of the story.

Sadly, objectivity has long been lost to much of the newsvine.

Anyways, just thought I'd share another poll with you. Seems like Obama is not getting quite the rise in support that MSN claims, at least not everywhere else. Oh yeah, this poll is from yesterday.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/213055-gallup-obamas-approval-rating-falls-sharply

Well, I guess the shows that more American's are okay with trashing our constitution and becoming more comfortable with socialism....that’s too bad. This has been a Great country so far.

Feisty, I share your political views, but I have to wonder if you just sit on your computer waiting for these stories to be published so you can rush to put the first comment on them. All too often, your collapsed post is the first on a host of political articles. Then other people reply to your initial post en masse, and naturally, the conservatives hate you, so they get your post collapsed (for no valid reason most of the time), and 100 other comments, most of them wholly unassociated with yours, get collapsed as well.

Again, I share your views, but you gotta go outside sometimes and get yourself a life, woman. :)

Wow. You can sure spot the rightwingers on here who tune in to FauxNews.

The RNC put out a "pundits talking points" primer for any right wing news reader to use whenever something positive came out about the economy or President Obama's performance.

The 3 points they were supposed to hammer home in response to good news were:

1) Unemployment

2) Gas prices

3) I forget the 3rd one. (Sorry, just had a Rick Perry moment there)

Fox News has been going on ad nauseum about high gas prices for over a week.

Here's a newsflash: the president has no control over gas prices!

New Gallop poll today says that 72% of Americans think ObamaScare is unconstitutional! Now Gallop Pollsters are hardly Conservative. If SCOTUS deems ObamaScare constitutional then Obama can put the election between his legs and kiss it along with his a** goodbye because the people will not vote him in to impose it on us!

Have a nice day!!!

ever notice the majority of the very first posts on ANY news story comes from Democrats (AKA Feisty who 99 times our of 100 is the very FIRST to post)?

That to me most likely means they are browsing the web from home (probably their apartment or trailer) while on the gov't dole.

Polls against polls...But, there is one thing to consider about the "approval" ratings for President Obama. I would bet that there are voters out there who may not "approve" wholeheartedly with the job the President has done (and I do approve) but, will still vote for him out of the knowledge that he is steady and calm even in the face of more provocation than anyone else in the arena, ever. He is a grown-up and although I imagine that Mitt Romney and Ron Paul can make the case that they are also grown-ups, it may be too little, too late. Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich can't make the case at all. Hoping that gas hits 6.00/gallon, unemployment edges back up to 9.5%, Iran goes nutso or the Dow takes a huge dive is just not mature or responsible and is terribly selfish.

One thing that intrigues me is, if Obama gets re-elected and the economy fails to improve and unployment remains high, will all of you continue to blame Bush?

Well, if Romney or Santorum or Paul gets elected in November, then implements big tax cuts just like Bush Jr. did, and gets the same type of soaring deficits and faltering economy and rising unemployment like Bush Jr. did, will you continue to blame Obama?

YET OBAMA CUT RESEARCH INTO HYDROGEN AS A FUEL, ITS USE, DEVELOPMENT, STORAGE AND USE IN VEHICLES BY 90% IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET! WHY? IS OBAMA IN THE POCKETS OF THE COAL AND OIL INDUSTRY?

You're a few years late, that happened in 2009. The reason is that his Energy Secretary and science adviser Chu realized that hydrogen wasn't a very good automotive fuel - it's expensive, difficult to store, and inefficient compared to electricity. Also, plug-in cars were already coming onto the market and are more affordable than hydrogen fuel cell cars. The per-mile fuel cost for a hydrogen fuel cell car is slightly higher than for equivalent gasoline cars, and the fuel cost for hydrogen internal combustion engine cars is more than twice that of gasoline, but the per-mile "fuel" cost of driving electric is about 1/3rd the cost of gasoline. (BTW, Chu has a Nobel prize in physics, he understands things like efficiency and the physical properties of hydrogen)

So Obama and Chu decided to focus most of the funds available on the much more promising battery technology, and it's paying off. There are already several plug-in car models available, and every major auto maker will have at least one plug-in car model (battery electric or plug-in hybrid) for sale within 3 years. But there is still some funding on the back burner for hydrogen research, in the unlikely event that an unexpected breakthrough makes hydrogen both affordable and practical.

The oil industry LOVES hydrogen, as they already make large quantities of hydrogen for their refineries, they have the cheapest source of hydrogen (steam reforming of natural gas), and they want to sell that profitable new fuel when the oil runs low. Companies like Shell and Exxon have major hydrogen promotion efforts, Shell has even installed hydrogen dispensers at a few stations in the LA area. Coal companies also like hydrogen, as they have the 2nd cheapest source (steam reforming of coal) and would like to get into that market, too. While hydrogen can be produced by electrolysis of water, the combination of electrolysis, storage, and fuel cells uses 3 times more energy than batteries would to supply the same amount of electrical energy - that makes it too expensive to be competitive.

Besides, one would think that conservatives would applaud any reduction in Government spending. Apparently, reduced spending only counts if a Republican does it.

Soaring deficits, CM?????......The country is 236 years old.....Obama has been in office for 3 years, or .012 percent of the time......he is responsible for 30% of the total accumulated debt.....so who's soaring here???

What makes you folks think fiesty redhead is a female?? I heard from a pretty good source that "she" is really a pasty overweight gay dude who lives in a trailer and lives on welfare. Sounds logical, hugh????

Ahh, I see the right-wingers are up in arms to defend their pathetic candidates???

To all those who claim that Obama is a no good socialist who doesn't are about the Constitution; tell me exactly what he did that represents something that is proven to be unconstitutional BESIDES the Patriot Act and NDAA (he wrote a statement showing his disapproval of some of the things in the NDAA). And Obamacare has yet to be determined. In addition, how is Obamacare socialist??? Didn't the GOP support an individual mandate about 20 years ago when they were living in reality??? And since when is socialism 100% bad??? I mean, socialism isn't very economical, but like sugar, can be good in small doses. Everyone who thinks Obama ought to be ashamed of themselves, mainly because they don't even know what socialism is nor what it and are still stuck in the Red Scare days.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

How is a comment with 153 likes going to be collapsed by the
community?

Not that I agree with the no intelligence having comment in the first
or last place.

Seriously, the dislike button needs to be reinstated.

Well the liberal main stream media is doing what it does best: showing "polls" how great their guy is doing that they essentially elected. Note the no whining aspect of gas prices, food prices, and energy prices that Americans are all now suffering from, a large portion of which is due to the deficit reducing the value of the dollar (all the aformentioned of which the liberal media said we'd be in soup lines under Bush over...and the Democrats that controlled Congress with a Supermajority during his last two years in office).

Yes, Obama can be re-elected. If that's what America wants, so be it. This nation deserves who it elects. That's what we are founded upon. Good luck Class of 2012, and 2013, and 2014, and 2015, and 2016...

Oh and by the way, the election/re-election year is still young. Anything can happen between now and November...like a war in the Middle East and gas shooting up to $10/gallon. Good luck libs, you own it. For now.

As GOP race continues, voter confidence in Obama improves..

HA HA ...it's got nowhere to go but up....lol

What a joke!

Nope, that's just your reflection you're looking at...

No, it's called facts.

...do you think Christy would take the VP nomination?

Christy Eats Anything...

Pat,

Better head back to the ranch, it's butcherin' time....

I can see the Teabags going "this is truble boys"

Job1 - don't waste your time.

Don't you know the right is allergic to facts?

That's why they watch FOX.

Christy Eats Anything...

Bake a pie, eat a pie !

After this pending loss, the Repubs will realize their alliance with the Tea Party and the Religious Right was a horrible decision.

No way does Extra Christie take the VP nomination, his ego is way too massive for that.

Pat: Please don't let facts, polling, and historical data get in the way of your wanting to believe Obama is a terrible President with no chance of reelection. MSNBC is so diabolical in their wanting to prop him up, that they've managed to get all of the other major polls on other major networks and publications to reflect the exact same range of numbers.

Hey Pat

You must have eaten some mad cow tainted beef from your 'Ranch" , I think it's effecting your brain.

Obama has to answer for his own failures as well as his accomplishments. Most for good reason blame him for the gas prices. Many blame him for the Israel-Iran crisis. Most know more are out of work or under-employed than the government is saying, and lying about rather than remedying that situation hurts him. Many are scared about his re-direction of vital defense money to his bread-and-circuses patent attempts to buy votes with patronage. Many are now aware of all the dreadful non-health secrets and actually the health secrets too buried in Obamacare and want this scam to go away. So even as an incumbent, he has worries. He has a balancing act, too. Many see his endless money-raising sojourns and campaign appearances as him abandoning responsibilities to take care of his own selfish ambitions while the people suffer.

Pat...

Agreed 100%

He's a complete and utter failure. Only have agreed with his policies about twice...

He'll go down in history as one of the worst POTUS's ever...right above Jimmy Carter.

One and done!

ABO 2012!

Love your sarcasm Mr. Colton. Carry on.

tom.

[Many blame him for the Israel-Iran crisis.]

The crisis that started before our President was born.

As for gas prices we are still 40 cents below the all-time high set during the Bush Administration.

Pat, you're not really that stupid are you?

Obama will be seen as one of the great Presidents of all time. Kept us from a depression despite partisan politics, health care, killed Bin Laden, etc.

The current Republicans will be remembered as the worst along with the tea party.

cantakenomore, your knowledge of history is astounding. The generally recognized worst president was Warren Harding, followed by James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, Millard Fillmore, William Henry Harrison and Ulysses S Grant.

The overall rankings put Abe Lincoln first, followed by FDR, and George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Teddy Roosevelt.

There actually existed a world before your arrival.

The Crisis May of Started Before But He's hasn't Come up with A Viable Solution either,Dennis don't worry Obama Setting his sights the All time highs, then You'll need a COTA Bus pass to get around.

uhhhh really green timer?? Duhhh, dey show don't teach us nuffin' deez dayz, do dey?

BTW, Andrew Jackson was the ONLY president to pay off the national debt...and let's not forget abolishing what is now known as the federal reserve.

...and he is only hated by a few indians

When Romney finally gets the Republican Nomination, he's going to pick another richer-than-hell person to run with him, that way he'll have somebody who can talk-the-rich-man-talk with him, and help Romney do the most damage he can possibly do by having a partner who thinks exactly the way he does.

Romney needs anybody and everybody to try to get him into the Oval Office, but I doubt VERY seriously if Romney allows Chris Christy to actually hang out with him. Nope, not unless Chris Christy is a honorary member of the Billionaires Boys Club, which he ain't.

Obama / Biden 2012

I love it when they say Obama is a terrible president, with no real proof. If you compare the good with the bad, the good overly outweighs the bad. He would be an even better president if those idiots in the 112th congress did their jobs, instead of sign pledges to continue to destroy the country.

American Girl...

Thanks for the laugh. That was the most incoherent post I've read today!

TO: cantakenomore who wrote:

"American Girl...

Thanks for the laugh. That was the most incoherent post I've read today!

Hey, don't blame me. If you understood anything at all, you wouldn't be a Republican.

Obama / Biden 2012

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.

Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.

cantakenomore

He'll go down in history as one of the worst POTUS's ever...right above Jimmy Carter.

Right above Carter wouldn't be so bad, since Carter generally is ranked above Bush. In a 2010 Siena College poll of 238 presidential historians, Bush the Lesser was ranked at 40 while Carter was ranked at 36. And before whining about pointy-headed librul professors bias, consider that the same poll ranked George H. W. Bush at #22 even though he was only a one-term president. And Republicans T.R. Roosevelt was ranked 2 and Abe Lincoln was ranked at #3. Obama was ranked at #15.

http://www.siena.edu/uploadedfiles/home/parents_and_community/community_page/sri/independent_research/Presidents%202010%20Rank%20by%20Category.pdf

But what do lousy historians know? Right wing nutjobs are the true experts on everything. The less they know about a subject, the more expert they think they are.

Dennis, Columbus, Ohio

tom.

[Many blame him for the Israel-Iran crisis.]

The crisis that started before our President was born.

Everything is Obama's fault so why not htis, too. It's not like anyone else ever had a problem with Iran before.....

As for gas prices we are still 40 cents below the all-time high set during the Bush Administration.

The very oil friendly Bush Administration. The "my family-business is oil" Bush Administration. The "let's deregulate and drill the heck out of anything" Bush Administration. Yes, the entire Bush/Cheney family could not keep the oil prices down so why is anyone surprised that the Obama Administration cannot pull miracles out of his a$$?

Houston!

Right above Carter wouldn't be so bad, since Carter generally is ranked above Bush. In a 2010 Siena College poll of 238 presidential historians, Bush the Lesser was ranked at 40

You don't even have to post rankings to prove your point. The Republicans gave us all the proof that Bush is the worst president ever. No one will mention the name BUSH ever - have you heard one Republican candidate mention Bush during the debates??? It is sad actually.

This too shall pass with few more flag-draped coffins. 4% drop on Rasmussen in two days with the last two dead soldiers. He might stand a chance if he got some cahones and got us out of there.

Fun study on that.

Incompetent people cannot spot their own incompetence, nor the incompetence in others. It's basically asking a car-mechanic to solve quantum mathematical equations. They don't have the knowledge or expertise to make that judgement.

livescience.com/18706-people-smart-democracy.html

Roughly says 'People are too stupid for democracy to flourish over long periods of time. And the stupid ones don't know they're stupid. They don't have the competency level to judge their own intellect. so any attempts to draw attention to the fact are, basically, in vain."

Chester12: A stooge? Hmmm. first off, Domenico is a man. I guess we know how much research you do! Second, he's a graduate of the Columbia School of Journalism, specializing in political research. Third, ALL of the GOP candidates have been striving to base their campaigns on the economy, which by dozens of measures is better now than at any point in the past three or more years. Fourth, the re-election of the President is a landslide just waiting to happen.

adding 5 trillion to our deficit in 4 years, more people than ever on food stamps (46 million), slowest economic recovery since WWII, health insurance premiums up for all private health insurance, unemployment rates being reported erroneously low by the federal government, more federal government making over $100,000 per year than ever.......yeah dems give me four more of this. Just wait until the US dollar collapses under the debt and is replaced as the world currency....do some research on what this would mean for you and your family.

liberalism is a mental illness, just keep drinking the koolaid....

Chester,

Guess we are suppose to take your word regarding an analysis which details you didn't share. You want to talk about failure. Its the conservative governments in Europe who implemented "Austerity Measures", which were exactly what the GOP proposed, that sent their countries into nose dives economically. Also, your boy Christie also took similar measures and rank 41 in the states index on economic health just on above Mississippi. (LMAO) Yet you are critical of Obama? What's happened thus far is great considering the fact it took Japan, who had a massive financial recession like ours, ten years before they started to recover.

As GOP race continues, voter confidence in Obama improves..

HA HA ...it's got nowhere to go but up....lol

How's that Bob? If his ratings have been steadily get better? More like the bilge pumps have finally kicked in. Just wait until he opens the war chest, then we will see just how far in the dust the GOP nominee, who ever that is, will be.

just wait till gas hit $5.25 everywhere

Bob,

Or to use another nautical reference, the GOP candidates have assembled a nice big submarine.... with a screen door!

Rob in ma? The price of gasoline has NOTHING to do with the President! The price of gasoline is the direct result of de-regulation of the Commodities markets. This is the glaring example of an unfettered "Free Market" that conservatives claim to hold in such high esteem. $5.25 per gallon gas is going to make a few investors unbelieveably wealthy while the rest of us struggle to fill our tanks. It wouldn't matter who occupies the White House. The price of gas is not something our Congress or the President has any control over as the laws are written today.

Gas hitting $5 is because of the free market. You hate the free market?

The oil companies are giving millions of $$ in political donations to the GOP - why is anyone surprised that they're also raising gas prices before the election?

Top 15 Recipients of Oil & Gas Political Contributions 2011-12:

(OpenSecrets.org)

1 Perry, Rick (R)

$789,924

2 Romney, Mitt (R)

$495,600

3 Dewhurst, David H (R-TX)

$310,750

4 McConnell, Mitch (R-KY)
Senate
$233,500

5 Barrasso, John A (R-WY)
Senate
$214,400

6 Boehner, John (R-OH)
House
$210,600

7 Williams, Michael (R-TX)

$188,150

8 Cruz, Ted (R-TX)

$171,300

9 Williams, Roger (R-TX)

$161,600

10 Berg, Rick (R-ND)
House
$161,300

11 McCarthy, Kevin (R-CA)
House
$143,200

12 Hatch, Orrin G (R-UT)
Senate
$141,000

13 Flores, Bill (R-TX)
House
$129,256

14 Pompeo, Mike (R-KS)
House
$129,000

15 Rehberg, Denny (R-MT)
House
$121,402

So, Rob - are you gonna vote for the oil companies' guy?

just wait till gas hit $5.25 everywhere

... and Obama taps the reserves and the speculators lose their asses.

Hey Rob, Looks like your boy couldn't even hit 50% in his "home" state. 41%? Now that's embarrassing. Just sayin'.

just wait till gas hit $5.25 everywhere

Ahhhh...

The one hit wonder chimes in... lol

I suppose if the GOTea were busy writing jobs bills instead of vaginal ultrasound and everyone-buy-more-guns legislation, perhaps they might have a snowball's chance in hell...

Hmm I thought the price was going up b/c of Iran, opec cutting supply, and not building the pipeline. even the downgrade pres press secretary said they have no control of prices. I am sure that it will be bushs or cheneys or haliburtons fault in the end.

Guess you didn't read the article...the closer to 0 the better. Anyhow, anyone in their right mind is not surprised by this. Obama is reasonable, intelligent and always willing to listen to alternatives to his party. What he is not willing to do is sacrifice the middle class and working poor so the rich can keep their "benies" which were given to them over the last 8 years under Bush.

Obama is not perfect. He is however the only adult in this country. Look at the republican candidates? Listen to their speeches. There was not a grain of truth to Romney's talk. This president has deported more people, permitted more drilling and CREATED more jobs in three years than the republican party did over 8 years. And he did it by not throwing the majority of middle class people under the bus.

and spending all those days re-affirming "In God We Trust" as our motto....why they got so tired they have to work 4 days for a month to get 2 weeks off!

RealAmericansFirst - It appears that Obama and the Democrats prefer to get their money from lawyers and lobbyists.

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=K

1 Obama, Barack (D) $5,797,908

2 Romney, Mitt (R) $3,114,120

3 Gillibrand, Kirsten (D-NY) Senate $1,629,652

4 Nelson, Bill (D-FL) Senate $1,175,009

5 McCaskill, Claire (D-MO) Senate $943,380

6 Kaine, Tim (D-VA) $902,441

7 Tester, Jon (D-MT) Senate $880,699

8 Brown, Sherrod (D-OH) Senate $838,954

9 Casey, Bob (D-PA) Senate $820,331

10 Menendez, Robert (D-NJ) Senate $758,764

11 Perry, Rick (R) $732,411

12 Cantwell, Maria (D-WA) Senate $666,857

13 Haridopolos, Mike (R-FL) $556,160

14 Klobuchar, Amy (D-MN) Senate $459,659

15 Braley, Bruce (D-IA)House $433,813

16 Whitehouse, Sheldon (D-RI) Senate $433,264

17 Boehner, John (R-OH) House $431,350

18 Brown, Scott P (R-MA) Senate $427,561

19 Cruz, Ted (R-TX) $424,633

20 Stabenow, Debbie (D-MI) Senate $391,671

Skup - what do lawyers and lobbyists have to do with the price of gas?

The question is, are all those gas company donations gonna buy your vote?

If so, don't complain the next time you fill up.

Obama Trumps Romney With Small Donors - ABC News

In the scramble for campaign cash, President Obama has proved once again that he’s king, at least among American small-dollar donors.

Nearly half — 48 percent — of Obama’s $118 million haul in 2011 came from individuals giving $200 or less, according to a new analysis by the Campaign Finance Institute, a nonpartisan group.

Small-donors made up only 9 percent of the 2011 fundraising total for Mitt Romney.

But it’s on the other end of the donor spectrum that Romney holds more sway: He gathered 82 percent of his funds from donors giving $1,000 or more, the Campaign Finance Institute found. Those high-dollar donors comprise just 28 percent of Obama’s total.

RealAmericansFirst - I like how you cut your list off at 15 when the web site went through 20. Could it have had anything to do with Obama being 16th on list? Here's an even better list.

Top 5 Presidential Candidates Recipients of Oil & Gas Political Contributions 2011-12

1 Perry, Rick (R) $789,924

2 Romney, Mitt (R) $495,600

3 Obama, Barack (D) $116,563

4 Paul, Ron (R) $102,274

5 Cain, Herman (R) $82,298

It's really interesting how when the gas prices rose in 2008 all the democrats and the MSM was going after Bush and blaming Bush because there was a "oil man" in the White House. Now the democrats say "Oh, it's not the President's fault", he has nothing to do with gas prices. If President Bush was responsible for gas prices in 2008 then President Obama has to be blamed for the rise in prices now. You democrats and liberal media can't have it both ways.

Will Romney ask "The Donald" to be his VP?

There was not a grain of truth to Romney's talk.

You can say that again.

This president has deported more people, permitted more drilling and CREATED more jobs in three years than the republican party did over 8 years. And he did it by not throwing the majority of middle class people under the bus.

You nailed that one, ireniscione-1. But using facts with a Tea Bag is just like talking to wool.

You democrats and liberal media can't have it both ways.

Sure they can. They have the mic!

Skup - looks like Obama has gotten less than a quarter of what the oil industry has given to Romney.

So, I ask again the question you won't answer - are you gonna vote for the oil companies' guy?

The Koch Brothers are dying to know.

RealAmericansFirst - Of course I'm going to vote for Romney. But I'll no more be voting for the Koch Brothers than you will be voting for all the lawyers, lobbyists and financial institutions that gave to Obama.

There was not a grain of truth to Romney's talk.

I was watching Willard's nose growing as he gave his out of breath speech... lol

Actually if you adjust for inflation, gas would have been selling for over $3 a gallon in today's dollars back in 1918 and that was when supply far exceeded demand. The price has been kept low in the U.S. by subsidies. Just look at what gas prices in Europe and places are without subsidies.

And, one can only imagine how much more of our tax dollars and tax breaks would have to go to big oil for Newt to be blowing smoke by promising gas at $2.50 a gallon.

We've all been spoiled by having gasoline cheaper than the real free market price. It should already be at least $5 a gallon and that's without scares, speculation, or futures pricing, just based on worldwide demand and the supply chain.

We need to transition to getting off the oil and gas train and moving towards true energy independence. It's a tough first few steps, but the longer we wait the worse it gets.

mike-464493 - Oil and gas are the only trains in service. There is no other energy source capable of supporting the planet's population.

TO: Rob in ma-3189632 who wrote:

"just wait till gas hit $5.25 everywhere"

What, you think by then we will have forgotten that Republicans control oil prices.

Are we supposed to forget how Republicans have done everything in their power to sabotage and stall our recovery?

Republicans haven't worked for the American People in nearly 4 years now, and Republicans have NOT done one single thing to help the American People survive the mess Republicans made in the 1st place.

Just the other day, Santorum said the American People have not suffered enough for the sake of capitalism. Imagine that, after all the things the American People have lost during this Republican-made devastation, still they still don't think we've suffered enough! Well, I think we've suffered too much.

Obama / Biden 2012

American Girl-724855 - It's all about perspective. You say the Republicans have done everything in their power to sabotage and stall our recovery. We say they have done everything in their power to stop Obama from running the recovery further into the ground.

BTW: Republicans control oil prices??? Now that's a good one.

mike-464493

Actually if you adjust for inflation, gas would have been selling for over $3 a gallon in today's dollars back in 1918 and that was when supply far exceeded demand. The price has been kept low in the U.S. by subsidies. Just look at what gas prices in Europe and places are without subsidies.

And, one can only imagine how much more of our tax dollars and tax breaks would have to go to big oil for Newt to be blowing smoke by promising gas at $2.50 a gallon.

We've all been spoiled by having gasoline cheaper than the real free market price. It should already be at least $5 a gallon and that's without scares, speculation, or futures pricing, just based on worldwide demand and the supply chain.

We need to transition to getting off the oil and gas train and moving towards true energy independence. It's a tough first few steps, but the longer we wait the worse it gets.

Excellent point - all of it.

Rob in ma,

What impresses you about Romney? I am from Mass and I think Romney was bad for this state. He balanced the budget on the backs of the hard working people. He cut corporate taxes but raised fees from registrations to marriage licenses. I pay more for everything because of Romney.

How much do they pay you guys to say all this stuff? Just look around or better yet just read MSNBC on you computer. The country is failing! Stores are closing and companys are laying off people.We have inflation of commoditys every where.Much higher unemployment than is reported and empty homes all over the place.im not sure what planet your from.Oh and quit blaming bush,Obama wanted the job,now its time to man up and own it.

I like Ron Paul but he cant get the votes,so i see Romney running,he seems better than Obama(cant be worse) If Ron Paul ran as his vice president,Romney would win,otherwise Ron Paul well split the vote.

Skup

American Girl-724855 - It's all about perspective. You say the Republicans have done everything in their power to sabotage and stall our recovery. We say they have done everything in their power to stop Obama from running the recovery further into the ground.

As much as the Republicans try to deny it, we have been moving in the the right direction because of Obama. Slow? YES!!! but only unrealistic people would expect this economy to rebound over night. The Republicans gave us John McSame in 2008 who wanted to continue the Bush policies - where the hell would we be today is we allowed the Bush speeding train to continue?

Really what a statement; Obama is reasonable, intelligent and always willing to listen to alternatives to his party. What he is not willing to do is sacrifice the middle class and working poor so the rich can keep their "benies" which were given to them over the last 8 years under Bush.

So now tell me about all those so called programs that was offered, where hardly anyone met the ridiculous rules? Where are the jobs everyone contends to be floating around. I'm not talking about the union jobs either, government jobs, or, part-time jobs? How about the jobs that most Americans can't find and have just fell out off the roles of unemployment, as this tends to improve the unemployment #'s. How many jobs that were lost to the middle-class and the working class people that seems to never find it's way back.

Wages right around what most would consider slave wages, so just tell me if you would what happened to those promises again. Not saying the conservatives would have done any better, just saying that it seems to me that none of them really care. Hmmmm let me see who made out the best in these bailouts= Seems the unions and the car manufacturers did pretty good. Oh yeah not too forget about those evil and mean ole banks that have recorded record breaking profits, while, the people are still losing their homes by the millions. Hey let's not forget the Wall-street banksters either, they are seeing the best markets since 2006, while the rest of us are seeing more food-stamps and being pushed towards the welfare line too.

I just don't know who could be the right one for our countru, because, too me they're all as corrupt as any could find. So in reality just what has happened for the American ppl. again? Just thought he spent his time in the wrong direction, should have worried about getting the people back to work first!

No I don't hate the president and do respect the title, just a little angry about working all my life to to be pushed aside. I served this country and do I expect to have special rights over others? Absolutely not.

I guess you put out the feed and the sheep will come in the field to eat and it's prevalent it doesn't matter what field it is!

Cool, now the parrots of the left think that republicans once again control the price of oil. I suppose next we will hear about bush2 leading a secret government cabal that is denying obama the opportunity to be a leader.

Interesting that the fool, americans first discredits skups report on lawyers and lobbyist contributions to the left as having no bearing on the price of gas, yet AF couldn't prove that either big oil (beyond the cost of bringing it out of the ground and refining) or the republicans can control the price of gas.

Poor americans first, see how he holds high the benefits (by blowing off their $ contributions) of one being a lawyer or lobbyist. Yet on these very forums many from both sides of the aisle have decried wall street and lobbyist (both represented by lawyers) for being in bed with the politicians.

As GOP race continues, voter confidence in Obama improves..

HA HA ...it's got nowhere to go but up....lol