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Mitt Romney is pretty upset about Rick Santorum robo-calling Democrats to try and get them out to vote for him. Romney called it "a real effort to kidnap our primary process."
This might be why. In 2000, John McCain won Michigan by 8 points, 51%-43%, over George W. Bush. And about 10 percent of the people who voted for McCain were Democrats.
About 1.3 million voted in the 2000 Michigan primary. Nearly one-in-five -- 17% -- voters told exit pollsters they were Democrats. (That would be about 75,104 people; 82 percent of them went for McCain, meaning 61,586 Democrats voted for McCain.)
McCain's total vote was 650,805, so the 62,000 or so is about 9.5%. (Of course, these aren't exact numbers because exit polls have a margin of error but they're pretty close.)
Only about half -- 48% -- of the 2000 Michigan primary voters identified as Republicans; 35% were independents.
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Democrat's may do it again today with Santorum! lol
*fingers crossed*
All the whining in the world by Willard isn't going to change a thing!
Guess Willard may have a 'glass jaw' after all...
I agree. Democrats for Santorum! Take that Romney!
As far as I can see, one candidate is as bad as the other. You have your choice between the guy who straps his dog to the roof of the car for a 12 hour drive or the guy who throws up when he reads a martyr's speech. I used to think this election would be close, but republicans may as well pack up their little tent and dream of 2016.
Mittens should look on the bright side.
Democrats helped McCain win Michigan over Dubya.......then McCain lost to Dubya....See Mittens!
All this angst over nothing because you Mittens, will eventually lose to President Obama!
Should be a fun evening watching the returns come in, listen to that cool election music from time to time, and have popcorn!
Michigan Democrats: Just doing our part to upset the GOTP
apple cartclown car.Obama/Biden 2012
Jody,
You read my mind!
Jody and Feisty - Given the participants in tonight's elections maybe you should switch from popcorn to pork rinds. For some reason it just seems more appropriate.
I am defiantly ready for this show . I have my kettle corn and my "to catch a predator" sweet tea .
There are a few candidates more than a little nervous I bet! Ought to be interesting to watch the outcome of this vote and what the spin will be. ; )
Is Limbaugh going off on how this is a Republican primary and Democrats stay OUT! Because that would be all kinds of irony...
Santorum is a Low Life. He certainly does not possess the Integrity that any President should have. He makes it easy to understand why he was so soundly defeated in his home state of PA.
The Mitt, Newt and Ron Show is on kiddies it could even outdraw the 3 Stooges marathon
The Amphibian Newt the sleaziest politician to ever infest Washington
The Lunatic In-Sanetorum a throwback to the social thinking of the Neanderthal
And the Mittens Rob-us-blind Flip Flop, the 1%'er CORPERTE RAIDER and one time governor of Liberal Mass but now he is an arch conservative. Has supported Abortion, Gay Rights, Gun Control, Stem Cell Research and has reverse himself on all of these issues
He took both sides on the financial bailout, the stimulus bill, the auto loan package;
His biggest Flip-Flop of all Health Care Reform The national Law is modeled on the one that he championed as governor in Mass that requires every citizen to have health insurance. Now he has Flipped-Flopped. Mr. Flop has taken a hard slide to the right pandering and boot licking to the Tea Party.
Mitt Flip-Flop Rob-us-blind, a wishy-washy, flip flopping spineless politician without any core convictions, principals or believes a man who will say or do anything to get elected telling one crowd one thing and another crowd another. You simply can’t trust this guy to tell you the truth.
Mittins recent foot in mouth quotes:
I like being able to fire people
I’m not concerned about the very poor
Let Detroit go bankrupt
Don’t try to stop the foreclosure process
My wife has two Cadillacs
Who could not be any less convincing as an “ordinary guy” if he literally wore a top hat and monocle?
No Republican has ever crossed over to vote in a Democratic primary?
Dems for Santorum!
After all, we want to choose the hardest hitting, most difficult to beat GOP nominee possible.
Bwahahaha.
Dems. for Gingrich is even better, the sweetest sound to Democrats would be "Newt Gingrich is the 2012 GOP Presidential nominee".
Santorum blew it. He's alienated all sane voters with his crazy rants. He blew it.
His real mistake was admitting that the best antidote to wingnuttitude is a college education.
What does it say about your ideology when you have to tell people not to send their children to college because if your children go to college they will no longer believe in your ideology? Santorum is not only admitting that right wing ideology is based on lies, he is also stating that right wing ideology is for uneducated people...
Santorum seems to be blowing a lot of things !
It's called "plunking" and should not be permitted. Those who do it are a disgrace to the democratic system.
Liberals must really be afraid of Romney. There has been alot of press about stuffing ballot boxes in an effort to not run against him. I think we've found the leader who will be able to replace Obama.....
Since you couldn't find your own rear end using both hands and a geiger counter, it is highly unlikely you found a Republican who could replace President Obama.
Nice try, though. Come back and visit us when you sober up.
Afraid of Romney, seriously? Nope, sorry, no way and no how. On the other hand, republicans are afraid of the 4 candidates they have--why else do we hear the constant rumble of "brokered convention", the discussion urging others to get into the race, the draft Jeb Bush or Mitch Daniels or Chris Christie drum beats.
Stuffing the ballot boxes against Mitt--hmmm, thought the ballots in IA were stuffed in favor of Mitt until the IA RNC was outed; same thing in Maine and Nevada.
If anyone will be stuffing the ballot boxes tonight, it will be the Republicans----like they did in Iowa and Maine.
Right you are UAW.
The moonbats are terrified of Romney. If Mitt is nominated Mitt is the next President!
And this story angle of dems voting against Romney will only energize the republicans to get behind Mitt.
Afraid? Please. Terrified? No way. There was a time - say several months ago - when Romney might have had me mildly concerned. But that was before we started learning that over half of his own party is still reluctant to support him - let alone independents or disappointed Democrats. Before he started sucking up to the "severely conservative" wing of the party just to get the nomination - a position he'll have a hard time walking back in the general election. And before he started making bad joke after bad joke about his wealth in a lame attempt to somehow connect with us so-called "average Americans". And even then I was pretty confident that President Obama could defeat him.
But that was then. Now? Now I'd say I fear him about as much as I ever feared Perry or Bachmann or Cain or Gingrich. In other words, not in the slightest.
P.S. - Rob in MA, get real - Romney couldn't energize the Republican party right now with an entire army of pink bunnies.....
It must be my imagination that liberals are urging Michigan Democrats to go out to a Republican event and vote for Santorum. (that's sarcasm) I see Obama was up there trying to rally the UAW by mis-quoting Romney on the auto bail out. No doubt Obama's days of buying Union votes with tax payer money are coming to an end.
I may not be a liberal but yes, I'm afraid of Romney. I'm even more afraid of Santorum. The closer we get to the control of nuclear weapons by religious zealots is a day we'll be closer to Armageddin or The Rapture or some other equally nutty idea by somebody in Iran or wherever. Come on, how can you seriously support such people to President be of the US.
UAW Pleeeeeeeease
Dems afraid of Mitt.......naa. It's GOP that has developed a cold feet nominating Mitt. You know "anyone but Mitt". We're waiting for the damage moron GOP is going to present.
Obama/Biden 2012
I see my liberal Friends here arent afraid of Mitt. I stand corrected. Please encourage your liberal Friends in Michigan to stuff Romney's ballot box so Obama has a "softer" opponent... :)~
You can't misquote Romney on the auto bailout because he has had so many opinions about it.
UAW Pleeeeeeeease
Obama vs Romney can only if GOP nominates him. So, make it happen and nominate Mitt. Did I hear whispers..........."anyone but Mitt". Now, who again?
Come on now Liberals. Get behind Mitt you know he's Obama's weakest opponent.... :)~
Based on the evidence so far, It is the republican majority that is afraid of Romney. At this point, Democrats (and late night comedy writers) seem to simply be enjoying the show...
Obama/Romney 2012
What's the diff?
It's admirable of the moonbats to put on their happy confident faces. But if your home town is like mine your local paper already ran the bold headline of Pain at that Pump. And hell it's still February! Quotes from ordinary folks wondering why Obama would deny keystone.
Stay in denial folks.
Next story to come Obama supports free abortion pills and rubbers for Hollywood millionaires while he slashes healthcare for troops!
Seriously? And the media still argues that Obama is smart.
I don't think that's a good argument.
No one said Romney is the weakest opponent. He might take 22 states to Obama's 28. He'd still lose.
But Rick? Rick can do some serious damage to the credibility of an entire party, and get just a healthy dose of pain.
His loss would be ranked along with Alf Landon and Walter Mondale. How is that not sort of interesting/motivating to be part of?
You could NOT be more wrong if you spent the next 10 years trying.
I just wanted M. T. Suit to lose tonight to see what would happen next. If these clowns aren't going to offer serious solutions to fix our problems, we ought to at least get some entertainment out of them.
I think a lot of us would find him losing in his "home" state kind of humorous - although, technically wouldn't his home state be where all his money is? But since that involves a number of numbered off-shore accounts in Mitten's case, he probably should be running for Governor of the Cayman Islands instead of President.
Stuffing the ballot boxes? Actually, half-wit, it's called VOTING.
TO: UAW Pleeeeeeeease who wrote:
Nobody can misquote anybody these days because everything is on tape.
If anything, it's Romney who wanted bankruptcy for car companies, and we all know it, Romney said it in public, and now Romney tries to pretend WE misunderstood.
No, we know EXACTLY what Romney meant: Romney wanted to dissolve all of the employee pension plans so that people who had worked at the car companies wouldn't have any retirement money, and Romney wanted to dissolve the United Auto Workers Union so that IF employees went back to work they've have to take deep pay cuts and deep cuts in health care and other benefits, which they do NOT have to do under President Obama's Plan.
You can't imagine for one minute that we are not listening to all this crap coming from Republicans.
Look, Republicans are attacking American workers and whoever protects us from every angle, AND Republicans are after our retirement money. It's true, so own it. Marry it.
Obama / Biden 2012
UAW Please, Romney is gonna beat Obama? Yea he can count on the Union vote, the women's vote, the Hispanic vote, the fiscal Conservative vote, the anti abortion vote,the overly religious vote, the libertarian vote, the youth vote, the black vote etc etc. NO HE CAN'T. Who ever the GOP candidate is going to go down like Alf Landon. Only with a louder thud.
I am glad we are "afraid" of Romney and/or Santorum just like we were soooo afraid of Bachmann, Cain, then it was Perry and Gingrich and what has happened to each of them? Maybe we should be "afraid" of mo GOPers if that is how it works.
I stopped being afraid of Romney about a month ago. I wanted Santorum to win last night because he would lose so badly in the general election that it would negatively affect Republicans down the ticket from him if he were the nominee. Romney might at least draw out enough support to keep the House for the GOP.
Wonder if Santorum thinks that will work in the national election.
Yes, I myself voted for McCain in the 2000 Republican primary, and President Elect Gore in the General.
Nice, now I know why the auto bail out was needed. We can't keep encouraging stupid people to have a say in how our country works....
TO: Job1 who wrote:
I did too.
Obama / Biden 2012
I say let the primary process run its course. President Obama will sort things out come November. The last few months have become nothing short of laughable. The Republican party representatives have turned this into nothing but a schoolyard "he said she said" scenario. It's sad when the so called leaders of this nation result to the blame game instead of a focus minded, country first mindset.
Even if President Obama (I'm very hopeful) wins the election, we'll be spared from the backwards dealings of the Republican party for a few years. But 4, 8, 12 years from now we'll sooner or later end up with a Republican nominee that represents the "old way" and we'll fall back into the same scenario we're trying to prevent now. I feel this country is losing ground with this separation of partisanship. This country really needs to change, and the government should lead the charge.
If not now, then when?
Mathematics correction...17% of 1.3 million would be about 221,000 Democrats voting in the 2000 primary. By this total, the 82% margin for McCain works out to about 180,000 votes, representing over 1/4 of McCain's total. If Santorum can capture close to this kind of margin, MI should be his.
According to early exit data, only 10% of MI GOP primary voters are Democrats this year. Santorum's "mischief bump" may not be enough to outright win in terms of votes, but it could net him a couple more delegates.
I could never, not even in a strategic move, vote Republican. As a working person, that would be like a jew voting for a Nazi.
obama you will regret it when his 1 percent tax kicks in Jan 2013. talk to your bank or credit union, thats how I found out. Take out all of your bank statements from 2011 total them up then subtract 1 percent. Its HR 4646, written by democrats by the way.
Uh, Sam, take a look at any of the fact check sites out there. That was proposed in 2004 and went nowhere. Keep up the awsome research...or get a new banker.
Hey Sam Houston,
How about you tell a little more lies there bud! I spent a whole 30 seconds looking up that there HR 4646 and the grand ole' interweber thing-a-ma-jigger tells me that you are a big fat partisan liar...
It was started by a congressperson from PA in the House Appropriations commitee as a way to pay down the debt and possibly replace the current federal income tax. The bill was killed in a subcommitee and never saw the light day. Obama had nothing to do with it... at all. This sounds just like the Keystone Pipeline propaganda, all BS that everybody has an opinion on but has no clue on the "actual" details.
How about them big fat texan apples!
Obama/ Biden 2012
There is a new bill that says the same thing that is being put forth by the same congressman, but it has received no support from the administration, has no co-sponsors, and is stuck in committee with no hope of getting out. So, yeah, look up HR 4646, and find out that Sam is using scare tactics in the form of a toothless boogeyman.
I just don't understand how Mich. is allowing the democrats to have a voting say on which Republican they want to run against OBAMA, it just doesn't make any sense. Why even have two different parties(Dem/Rep); if that's the case it should be the best person that can represent the US to be president.
All the dumazzcrats that have commented here just prove what a classless people you truly are. What a bunch of COMMIES!!!! You all S$CK
Having a little hissy fit, there, Bob? You might want to change your pants and come back when you've calmed down a bit. I don't expect you to be any more rational but you may have better control of your bladder later today.
Hope this helps!
You're right. Us "Dumazzcrats" have shown the lack of class that you've shown here.
ClassyCommie- I like the sound of that.
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I wonder where all the Faux/Fox outrage was when Limbaugh was telling his minion dittoheads to do the same thing...I will even use a link from the right wing propoganda ministry's own site so that they will believe it....
Whenfaced withthe chioce of theincmpetent and the uncaring-it'sbetter to dump Mr Uncaring over the side. That said,Mr Santorum is also a booby prize-which leaves us withMr Gringich wo is brillant but unstable. At least Gringich would know what he' sdoing ifnotwho he is doing it to..
If wantto getout of tight squeezes he's the man. Of course we'd have to put up with breakfast at Tiffany's-but that' snot hard-here's thought, put the National debt on Newt's Tiffany card. Yes,that might just work.
Mr Uncaring needs a good comeuppane. Mr Santorum we can get rid of later-fahions change ands weater vests go uot of style. Remember Jimmy Catrer?
It doesn't really matter which one gets the GOP nomination. Santorum will eventually pull a Rick only to crash and burn and the religious right will hunker down in their bomb shelters and wait for the second coming before they'll vote for a Mormon. Gingrich will declare himself the True GOP and run independent, ready to take the party back over as soon as he is crowned-er elected, Ron who? Rejoice my fellow Democrats and focus your energies on reducing the number of Gops and baggers in the house and senate so we can really begin to move forward!
Hopefully, the Dems vote for Santorum to derail Mittens
It may be a funny joke to vote for Santorum in the primaries, but "supporting" such evil, even in jest, is a dangerous line to cross.
History does repeat itself. Education is the best prevention.
The 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism by Dr. Lawrence Britt
Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14-defining characteristics common to each:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
5. Rampant Sexism
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
9. Corporate Power is Protected
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
14. Fraudulent Elections
wow...a baseball guy with brains...jk....excellent post...
Well said, Tinkers2Evers! And great baseball allusion, too! Where is Chance, by the way?
Personally, Obama is going to slaughter whoever the eventual Republican nominee is because they have attacked each other to death before getting to the general, and frankly neither one is a strong candidate. Personally, I'd love to see Santorum get the nomination though because his general "idiot"ness is going to make it so the Democrats win in a landslide this year, and frankly that's what this country needs to get back on the right path. No more tax breaks for the rich and an investment in infrastructure (ie: Roads, Schools etc.).
Obama/Biden 2012! (Seriously, we need to re-elect them people.)
You could be correct, but, I would rather see politicians fight it out in the open then what the dems did in last election. None of them REALLY went after Obama, even Hillary.
We all knew what we were getting with Obama, big government, big spending, with nothing to show for it but BIG debt, And you what 4 more years of it. Un-Frigging believable, This country has been down the Obama road before, maybe you are to young or stupid to remember. I would be very careful what I wished for.
Oh yes!!! you might to dumb to understand, but even under Obama the rich WILL get richer (especially all the BIG donors) and all you lemmings will not :)
OLD NEWS.........
who the hell is Domenico Montanaro.....he's got 4500 followers on twitter???..hell..i've got that many.....give me more facts jack....yeah, real numbers.....cmon dude...gawd....
This article is old News........ anyway, we all know what the dems. do to win elections. No party is any more shameless.
i am so terribly ashamed.....
Dan, just a question. Where did Romney vote in the 1992 primary?
In 2000 many Democrats voted for McCain, who was then a moderate, because they thought anyone would be better than Bush or that he was a better choice than Gore. This year's primary is completely different scenario. Also, McCain didn't seek Democrat's votes.
As a voter here in Michigan, it continues to amaze me that a consistent 40% of the electorate considers themselves Independent, yet the local GOP constantly ignores that fact and accuses the Democrats of any unexpected swing during their primaries. The Independent vote swung the 2000 primary election here by an overwhelming margin.
What should be more concerning for the GOP is now that the final numbers are in, it appears only 970k voters actually turned out, compared to the 1.3 million voters in 2000 -- a 25% drop in participation. The Democratic participation levels according to the exit polls are about the same. It appears that despite all the money spent, and all the increased attention put on this race compared with the one in 2000, there was instead an overwhelming yawn returned by the voters. The GOP needs to be more concerned that the electorate doesn't seem to care about any of their candidates rather than who voted for who yesterday.
This is typically what happens in U.S. politics. One party will go on the extreme and start loosing election after election. When they stop being reasonable and start trying to inflict their will on the country they are driven out of office. Obama probably is not a great president but he is not a left wing or right wing nut case either. I don't think republicans can run on just not being him because their fingerprints are all over the screw ups that got us here.