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As Mitt Romney criticizes Rick Santorum for encouraging Democrats to vote in today's Michigan GOP primary -- "I think Republicans have to recognize there's a real effort to kidnap our primary process," he said today -- it is worth remembering that Romney said he voted for a Democrat in the 1992 primaries to help the GOP.
Rebecca Cook / Reuters
U.S. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney greets supporters during a stop at his Michigan campaign headquarters in Livonia February 28, 2012.
During his '08 White House bid, it was revealed that Romney voted for Paul Tsongas (D) in the 1992 Democratic primaries. Romney's explanation at the time: "When there was no real contest in the Republican primary, I'd vote in the Democrat primary, vote for the person who I thought would be the weakest opponent for a Republican."
Here's the transcript from a Feb. 18, 2007 ABC interview:
ABC: Let me talk about your political journey. You were an independent, a registered independent in the 1980s. You voted for Paul Tsongas as Democrat in the 1992 primaries. Now you've describe yourself as a Reagan Republican.
MITT ROMNEY: Kind of a mischaracterization. In Massachusetts if you register as an independent you can you vote on either the Republican or Democrat primary. When there was no real contest in the Republican primary, I'd vote in the Democrat primary, vote for the person who I thought would be the weakest opponent for a Republican… But let me tell you, in the general election, I don't recall ever once voting for anyone other than a Republican. So, yeah, as an independent I'll go in and play in their primary but I'm a Republican and have been through my life. I was with Young Republicans when I was in college back at Stanford. But a registered independent so I could vote in either primary.
At his press avail today, Romney was asked about his vote for Tsongas in the 1992 Democratic primaries.
Romney responded: "It’s very different running for -- being a candidate for president, buying ads, and telling Democrats to go, to go mess into a Republican primary and to vote against me."
He continued, "In my case, I was certainly voting against the Democrat who I thought was the person I thought would be the worst leader of our nation. In this case, as I recall, it was Bill Clinton. I wanted someone other than Bill Clinton. And certainly and against -- I voted against Ted Kennedy, Tip O’Neill, and Bill Clinton. It seemed like a good group to be against."
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So, what you are saying is, Willard's flip-flopping roots run deep?
This guy would sell his mother if it would earn him a vote!
Willard has some balls crying foul about Santorum...
Hey Democratic Michigan voters?
Have you voted for a Teapublican today?
What would you expect from a flip-flopper? An empty suit.
Wouldn't you think these politicians would figure out that today's technology means that everything they have said and done on the record can be found pretty easily? Romney has been running for President for 5 years and yet is constantly caught off guard by things. How would he do as President when split second decisions are made at 3 AM?
Here is a quote from Romney earlier today in the previous FR article:
Here is a quote from Romney back then taken from above:
Incredible change of position.
The weather vane caught flapping in the wind again. It's gotten beyond funny. Just ludicrous now, and even a little sad.
What Mittens is saying is, "I did what Rickyboy is promoting in his robocalls", huh? Funny thing Rickyboy's economic philosophy (including the GM bail-out) is practically the same as Mittens. Neither is for the working-class/middle-class...two deeply flawed individuals which makes them terrible candidates.
So Mittwit,,, we really have no idea what you did or what you really believe in. President Obama in a near landslide.
Karma's a wicked biach! May just come back and bite Mitzy in his derrier. I guess what's good for the goose may turnout to be good for the gander. Wish I could vote for Insanitorium today! I could then say "I voted for insanity and could righteously plead temporary insanity because why else would anyone cast a vote for that nut case.
Do we really want to care who voted in what primary?
Do we really?
Stop. Stop sounding silly.
Flip-flops and flashbacks - Sounds like an IHOP dish you drown in syrup. Too bad Romney can't keep his sticky past from cropping up.
Is anyone else put off by the hyperventilating way that Romney speaks? Those gasps of air he takes in when he's speaking that make him sound frenetic? Drives me crazy. And I can't imagine it doesn't drive away some people who would otherwise support him.
Everybody voted for a Democrat in 1992 - for Democrat Bill Clinton.
Obama / Biden 2012
It does me, Jack, but gets me more is the pompous-pious anger that Santorum spews. As Santorum says, "That's disgusting!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZEObGdj9Ro
Uh, Feisty, it's called an open primary for a reason. A registered voter can vote for whomever he wants. Democrats do it all the time in an attempt to select a weak Republican candidate against their own candidate in the national election. But, I understand your liberal compulsion to attack a conservative for any reason....whether it's ridiculous or not.
Dear MSNBC: why not run smears on santorum's crazy words of the past? Just get anything of him talking in the year 2006 and you have political gold (except just saying he believes in satan. It's obvious you're twisting things in santorum's favor.)
Post Obama era ....
Can't wait ....
So - the outcome in Michigan will be because 'independents' voted for the weakest candidate?
Difficult choice, too ...
I'm a poor rich man, I'm a republican that votes for democrats, I am a severely conservative liberal, I helped implement a great health-care system that really sucks, I love American cars but I would have put the American car companies out of business, I create jobs by destroying companies, I'm a schizophrenic, no I'm not, yes I am, no I'm not, the truth is I'm just a pathological liar, that's a lie, is not, is, is not, is, okay now I got to kick my own ass. - Mitt Romney
All Dems in Michigan should vote for Ricky "gaga" Santorum. He owe the nation a lot of explanations regarding his ill advised rants lately. Vote for RICKY "THE GAGA".
Obama/Biden 2012
That's right Nerm. It happened exactly that way in 2008 when Limbaugh got millions of GOPers and Indies to vote for Obama in the primaries to keep the stronger candidate, Hilary Clinton, from the nomination.
LOL Nerm. Pretty funny.
Forrest -- Nice to see you back on the boards!
Wahhhh,hahahaha, um,hahaha, it's good Romney has made money in the business world. As a politician, He ain't worth a damn! wahhhhhhh!, hahaha,ho,ho,haha, umm, say what!?
Thank you "Don't carry it all" I got to take a break from my work once in awhile, I feel like I am missing all the republican primary fun, I did not think anybody could be more goofy and divisive than Sarah Palin but Santorum has pulled it off, he is the craziest candidate since George Wallace. Jon Stewart best described Romney as Thristen Howell the III. HA.
M.T. Suit may not be much of a political candidate, but he sure is funny - his SNL skits practically write themselves. He should consider running a pretzel factory the way he twists and turns past events.
Really? Well Ricky, I hope you enjoy debating the president!
Forrest -- I see your humor is still in tact! Get on as often as possible friend!
Forrest..... Could you imagine a Santorum/Palin ticket. it'd be just like Jim and Tammy Bakker!
Mitt's too used to holding his nose while taking a deep breath!
Forrest is back! :+)!
just what i want in my Pres.- he might push the red button on Oman thinking it the weaker State to scare Iran...
bigbenalaska:
Don't worry, January 2017 will come soon enough......
"As Mitt Romney criticizes Rick Santorum for encouraging Democrats to vote in today's Michigan GOP primary..."
Is this drama or comedy? It's hard to tell these days when it comes to the GOP's wannabe candidates.
Don't kid yourselves. Romney is peed, because Santorum is publicly doing what Romney and surrogates are trying to do under the radar.
@spider-737231 -- So far 1 out of 20 voters have participated in the Republican primaries and caucuses. The 'leading' Republican candidates have each been endorsed by 1 out 50 voters. These guys cannot even get the Republican base to turn out.
I really doubt you need to worry about 'independents'. At least, not until the general election ...
Who Cares what Romney did in 1992? Only democrats hiding from Obama's record of failure!
Unemployment: terrible.
Deficit: Out of control
Spending: Out of control
Taxes: Going Way Up
GDP growth: anemic
Gas Prices: High and Rising
Crazy dictators getting nukes: more likely every day
Obama literally has no plan past November 6, 2012. He and his supporters are long on excuses and short on accomplishments and ideas.
So Romney is whining already and the Michigan election isn't even over yet? Doesn't sound promising for the GOP. Nope.
another brainwashed Fox News viewer. I really feel sorry for these people.
DB Akron -- Most times I do not agree with you but sometimes you surprise me. (Appreciate your civility however.) Today I would say you are spot on.
So, spider, how did that sabotage work out for the GOP? lol
Obama elected, about to be reelected
It doesn't matter who the con candidate is, Obama cannot be defeated!
""When there was no real contest in the Republican primary, I'd vote in the Democrat primary, vote for the person who I thought would be the weakest opponent for a Republican."That's leadership? Vote for the wrong guy to help yourself, and "Who Cares what Romney did in 1992?" Did you think the same of Democrats, and Pres. Obama., of course not they have dead people voting for them.........The conspiracy continues..........There is no logic or comman sense in what you are saying, but hey you have a free choice.
Try to stay on subject or go to Faux News........LOL.
But who is the weakest candidate that all these Democrats are going to vote for? Is it Mitt's empty suit, Santorum's religious fundamentalism, Newt's poor ethics, or Ron Paul's general nuttiness?
@Gary 420 -- Who cares what Romney does in 2012 - especially since the Republicans are attempting to hide his record?
Unemployment improving. Green shoots in manufacturing. First trade surplus with petroleum products in decades.
Deficit going down with the end of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Defense and discretionary budget cuts through bipartisan legislation. Entitlement cuts from ACA (Obamacare).
No tax increases in 15 years - new, bipartisan tax cuts passed recently.
GPD growing and the growth rate increasing each year.
Gas prices returning to same level as six months ago - still below prices in May, 2011.
Dictators are falling all around the world. More nukes are being destroyed than are being built after ratification of START.
Obama's plan is to continue to ignore the Republican politics of defeat - as we all should.
Gary 420
Crazy dictators getting a nukes? ... wait till crazy Santorum gets his hands on 9000 or so.
Mitt Romney is a closet liberal democrat! Come out of the closet Mitt! You will feel so much better if you don't have to hide your true self. Hey Mitt I'll help you by outing myself, I am a lesbian trapped in a mans body, I feel better now. Ok Mitt now it is your turn, just admit it, just say it, "I am a liberal who votes democratic trapped in a republican primary." Hi I'm Mitt Romney and I'm out.
Don't hold your breath bba, 2016 is a long way off.
Obama/Biden 2012
Sailcat - this is Willard laying the groundwork for his excuse when he loses his home state today...
I wonder what kind of cheese NittMitt prefers with his whine? I'm positive it isn't American! ;o)
Perhaps a nice aged Swiss to go along with his bank accounts...?
Quite right, Feisty!
spider.. i don't believe fiesty "attacked" Governor Romney for being conservative. I believe she pointed out that he is complaining about people doing the very same thing he did. The very thing you say "Democrats do all the time" and so did Rush in 2008..right.
So again Mit comes across as a major flip flopper. and whiner...that's all.
This GOPer primary reminds me of elementary, school-yard bickering.
Jack, definitely Romney's breathless speaking is annoying; ranks right up their with is he-he when he's uncomfortable with the question or thinks he made a funny comment.
Forrest Grump, it is good to see you posting again.
Feisty, you really need to get a life. It seems like you only live for election season. It's a big world out there, go explore!
Ahh, Forrest!
That was just too funny!
Virginia Democrat said:
Obama elected, about to be reelected
It doesn't matter who the con candidate is, Obama cannot be defeated!
No? Are you aware of a fix Virginia Democrat? Do tell! From what I know about elections, anyone can be defeated. Anyone can win. Maybe you are forgetting one thing... Democrats are only 1/3 of the voters. You have to overcome the republicans and the independents. It sounds to me like Obama has only a 1/3 chance of winning right now.
Since the GOP abandoned the moderate voters in their haste to cultivate the Right Wing Lunatic Fringe vote, moderates have been steadily moving to President Obama's camp in order for their voice to be heard. Certainly, only a crazy-as-a-@!$%#house-rat voter means anything to the Republican Party any more. That benighted subset of the population isn't going the carry the GOP to a victory in November.
Brianb- Independents are traditionally pretty intelligent voters. Means Obama has 2/3 chance of winning. And, since an intelligent women left in the GOP will certainly vote for Obama his chances just shot up to 3/4/ chance!
So! He's not only Rich, but "sneaky" too. Wow, Rich and "sneaky" too. Sound like GOP, "Norquist"???
Amazing how people on MSNBS take it as Rommney being sneaky when in fact the story is highlighting a DNC strategy.
Really all this highlights that our election process is flawed. States are different and it doesn't give a true reflection of what people want. What they should do is have National primaries on ONE day. Pick whoever you want from whatever party you want. Then have a final election with the top vote getters from DNC, GOP and Ind.
Why is it that I don't think Romney would be saying this if Michigan was a toss up between Santorum and Gingrich and it was Democrats voting against Gingrich?
Romney is a freakin' cry baby!! I hope he loses the Michigan primary tonight.
Oh come on all you liberals. Its been 20 years. Lots of things happen in 20 years. I was a registered Democrat in the 90s, not anymore. Its never too late to see the error of your ways :)
AZChzhd - and, if you actually grow a brain you'll see the error of your ways. You can be a registered whatever and still vote Democrat. Or, are you a crabby old white man who doesn't think women should have rights. If that's the case, you'll vote GOP. No brain activity there!
Ewwww! Just realized you apparently voted for McCain/Palin (we don't have economic problems). No chance for a brain - sorry!
Don't start with the "it's been 20 years" crap! The Republicants jump on everything Clinton and even Carter did every chance they get. I've even seen those sorry SOBs blaming everything on FDR
The error is in your ways but the point of the story isn't how Romney voted in 92 it's that he's complaining about others doing the same thing today. Personally, I understand that he "used" the rules to his benefit.
But given that fact, Romney shouldn't be whining about others playing the game.
Romney has proven, time and time again, that he thinks"rules" are for the other guy and that they shouldn't apply to him.
That's all.
Nerm, let me help you with some facts.
Unemployment is higher than when Obama took office. It is the weakest bounceback from a major recession since they have been measuring data. I agree that it is moving in the right direction. Too little, too late. Obama's policies have made it worse.
Obama's own deficit projections show it continuing to increase. Counting "not spending on wars" as a reduction in the deficit is a tricky gimmick that thinking people saw through weeks ago.
I am sure there will be defense cuts. Agree with you there.
Obamacare will not reduce anything. It will be the largest entitlement program since Medicare. I don't even think the White House believes the lies anymore that costs will be reduced under Obamacare.
No new taxes in 15 years is a GOP accomplishment, and not for lack of trying by democrats. Obama has promised to raise taxes in January of 2013. His tax increase will be the largest in history unless by some miracle people wake up and vote him out of office. Of course, we still have no tax reform.
2011 GDP was 1.9%. Again, one of the most anemic post recession recoveries on record.
During the same time for Ronald Reagan after recovering from the Jimmy Carter recession, 1983 GDP was 3.8% and 1984 GDP growth was 7.8%. The Obama "recovery" is less than half as robust as the Reagan recovery.
Gas prices are increasing, not decreasing. Try picking up a newspaper. If MSNBC is your only source for news, you are getting 10% of the real story. Unlike most of you, I am bright enough to realize that high gas prices stem from many market factors. However, I still recall the hysterical screeching when gas prices rose under Bush. Liberals equal hypocrisy.
The situation in Iran and North Korea are truly perilous. Hopefully, you fella knows what he is doing. I must point out that the world's problems did not magically subside when Obama took office. Another liberal myth is shattered!
Please recall that Nixon, Reagan , Clinton and both Bushes had a lot more to do with START than Obama has. Glad that the Russkies are giving up nukes. The issue is Iran and N Korea.
Anybody But Obama in 2012!
"Operathhhsssshhhhuuunnn Chaossssssccccchhhhhtttthhh" was to get republiCONS to voted for Clinton to cause chaos at the Democratic convention.
In '92 the Democratic Party had not yet gone completely over the socialist cliff and as an independent I voted for democrat candidates if they were good. Today that is getting harder as party leadership is whipping members to follow the leftist line. Very sad.
@Gary,
Facts will not sway people when their mind is made up.
Ahh, Double-face Mitt has struck out again!!! So apparently encouraging Democrats to vote for your opponent is bad, and yet you crossed party lines to help your own party. What a hypocrite. It doesn't matter what the office was for; if you did it, you have no right to tell another person that you cannot do it. For that matter, I wonder why the US has the right to tell other nations that they cannot get nuclear weapons when we have them?? It's not that I want the whole world to have nukes; its just that America seems hypocritical, especially since we're the only nation to have ever USED them.
Sorry Mitt, but Americans aren't buying your bulls***. We know what happens when you give the GOP a share in government; they don't compromise, they filibuster like hell, and they don't do ANYTHING for the good of all Americans, unless they're part of the 1% or conservative. Oh and HAHAHA to Mitt. I pray that you will lose in your home state. so your party will be as chaotic and panicked as this nation under their control and after Bush, their darling.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
DEATH TO THE GOP
Oh and Feisty, I'll have some popcorn if you will, and give you a toast. To the GOP, whose candidates will ensure the re-election of President Obama!!!
President Obama gave an outstanding speech in Michigan. That state is is turning as blue as the University of Michigan Wolverines.
@Ron,
GO HOOSIERS!!!
-M
Romney also gave a speech in empty Ford Stadium, helping to turn the state "as blue as the University of Michigan Wolverines."
Sure Ron, the people who haven't fled the dying state of Michigan are going to vote for Obama because he gave a good speech. Never mind that they have no jobs, no homes, can't afford to fill their gas tanks, and have no prospects for the future; hell they'll settle for a good speech anytime!
spider, are you retarded? The president SAVED Michigan! If not for the auto bailout, so many more people there would be unemployed. Thanks to the president, auto makers are HIRING people, adding shifts and selling a ton of cars!
Obama Biden 2012!
GM started a night shift at the Flint Truck Plant, transplants from Kentucky moved to MI. Yep, Michigan is dying... you're right spider no one is listening here in Michigan.
Raid anyone? We got a spider infestation on FR.
devie..nice..."fist bump"
How many more of these friggen primaries do we have to endure? Geeez this is getting very old. It's the same players making all the same complaints... Nothing new, nothing old... just the same ole same ole. This is getting really very boring. I think we all get it. Liberals hate republicans... no matter who they are...
Let me ask... aren't you getting a little tired of voicing all the same complaints on a daily basis? What's the purpose? Venting frustration? This is like the middle of the Groundhog Day movie where Bill Murray finally discovers no matter what he does, the next day will be the same...
Well Brian, they (republican candidates [what a joke!]) keep givning us fuel for our fire and more and more issues to disagree with. As long as these guys are flub-vomiting everywhere we'll be commenting on it. Don't you get tired of hearing the truth?
Spider - Obama helped the auto industry and jobs are slowly coming back. Michigan for Obama in 2012 - just squished a spider! Splat!
brianb - and Republicans hate anyone with a brain - Democrats, Independents, women, etc.
So what Mitt is saying is that he is for it but against it because he was against and now is for it....or was it that he was against it beacuse he for it and now is for it because he is for it but against it....
So which way is the flipper flopping today?
All is fair in love, war and politics...
Sincerely,
Democrats for Santorum (for a day)
Why is it, while reading this thread, all I can do is hear Julie London and/or Ella Fitzgerald (both did the song well) singing "Cry Me a River"? I could dedicate the song to the former governor of Massachusetts. :)
No democrat should support Santorum for even one day. You may all laugh and think he would be a weaker candidate but what if he won? I used to be a democrat and recently became a NPA and I wouldn't support someone like Rick Santorum.
I think voting for Santorum to help Obama is a mistake... better to let a pushover like Romney win Michigan, than to risk going to a Brokered Convention, where a stronger Republican candidate like a Marco Rubio, or a Jeb Bush or a Chris Christie could potentially get the nod.
There will be no brokered convention. PERIOD!
In my opinion, nobody - Democrats, Republicans, Independents should vote at all. SAVE your time and gas!!! Why waste it on these freaks who is tring to swindle you for a vote. You will not be compensated for your gas, or your time. And I betcha not even a thank you!!
So people of Michigan, and even Arizona, do yourselves a favor, and do something else. Stay at work or get some overtime, save that vacation hours, go watch a show, do some shopping, cleaning, or catch up some more zzzzzs - especially you retirees. These lying Rethug hypocrites are NOT worthy of you!!
Old People will still vote... but as a former Gov. teacher once told me. "Old People vote, Young People don't".
Whoever is going to win the election is the one who is going to win over the old people.
GAME. SET. MATCH.
Wake up....... I disagree. It is a privlidge, honor and duty of all Americans to vote if at all possible. Otherwise its hard to bitch about whats going on if you never did anything yourself.
...and there are quite a few of us. Send the Weather Vane back to La Jolla. Sorry, ND we don't want Willard or Darrell in DC that village has to many idiots already.
A Musical Impulse - wrong - young people helped put Obama in the White House last election and they'll do it again this election. Young people are waking up to the fact that their country is only as good as the leaders they elect. They're stepping up to the plate and voting!
What's good for the goose is good for the gander!!
Un-freakin' believable! If I ever voted in a Republican primary, it would be for the candidate I thought would be less evil - that's the patriotic thing to do. How incrediblly cynical and dangerous to assist a candidate you disagree with, just because you think they'd be easier to beat!
Yet that is precisely what Michael Moore has told Michigan Democrats to do today.
Would you call that cynical and dangerous?
or...is Amy just a partisan hack? It is the latter.
Michael Moore isn't running in the primary, is he?
Boo hoo, Amy. If it was OK for Ro-money to do it, then how could it be a bad thing now? Per the dictionary-Cynical - a Repugnant tactic to fool the middle class to vote against their self interest, a ruse to vote in the Democrats primary to back the easiest candidate for Repugnant to run against, classic cornservative thinking.
Amy B Portland, ME, I totally agree with you. What people don't realize is what would happen if someone like R. Santorum won. I personally don't think he a good decent person. I think he has archaic beliefs and would stop at nothing to accomplish them.
Amy is 100% correct.
...wow...never thought I would see the day. "Bob" from the "probe me" state just united Michael Moore and Mitt Romney....or was he just trying to say that what is not OK for Michael Moore is perfectly OK for Mitt Romney. I think we all know who the partisan hack is here....
New slogan for Virginia------Virginia is for lovers........of transvaginal probes.
...snicker...It's the Teabagger American Tour!!! First you go to the "Show Me" state, then you spend a week in the "Probe Me" state....
Bob -- Santorum is also calling for democrats to go vote in the Michigan primaries against Romney. Pretty strange dynamics being played out in this primary season.
Hi Steeler Fan,
So True. The home of the transvaginal probe Governor.
What swept McCain into the front runner was winning in the open primaries? Independents and Democrats voting in large numbers. Some of these were because they wanted another choice, but many others were not.
Santorum seems to be a quick study on what Romney is up to, and this robo call may be actually Santorum saying, "oh, no you don't!.
Amy, It's wasn't easy to do but hey if it shoots holes in Romney's boat...
... and there seems to be a lot of us here in MI.
It maybe dirty pool, but turn about is fair play. This is politics you know.
I'm gonna go ahead and agree with Amy here although it would add even more hilarity to this already ridiculous circus. I'm also not afraid that Rick Santorum could ever beat Obama in the general election, on the contrary, I know he would ooze into the cracks of the floor under the pressure of a debate with a real speaker like President Obama! I would actually enjoy seeing it. I think it's low to stoop to their level and they're imploding just fine by themselves without any help from the other side. Besides, when has Michael Moore not been the most extreme liberal out there?
Why is he complaining? Sounds like a great excuse to use if he loses Michigan.
In truth, that's why he is complaining, Helen. Romney is most likely going to win, but perhaps not by enough to appease the establishment who might start thinking he should have won his home state more easily. This Democratic voter thing is just prepping the counterargument.
I suspect the Romney campaign launched those NRA robocalls itself, to give it a second line of argument - the Santorum-is-dirty-or-we-would-have-done-better defense. All just in case. They are still hoping for a 15-point win or better. But these guys are pros, and you have to prepare for every foreseeable possibility.
Note - I'm not saying that Santorum is above the NRA dirty trick. It's just that this one was obviously going to be caught, quickly, and I can't see campaign professionals doing something that is nearly impossible to get away with. It cuts into Santorum's true advantage, in the contest against Romney. Romney has money, organization, campaign experience at this level, an arguably stronger resume. Meanwhile Santorum is almost an insurgent candidate, and he's a bit goofy and unpolished at times. But he seems more honest and trustworthy (probably all campaign appearances; all these guys are politicians).
For Romney, cutting into that trustworthiness gap may be critical to ending this threat to his nomination hopes. So, paint the guy as a dirty trickster.
I agree with your assessment. Isn't it a sorry state of affairs that lying is the norm?
Helen, NY - I am truly sorry to inform you that Ro-money is a loser no matter the outcome of the Michigan primary. If this truth hurts, oh well, just saying.
Amused - You are too kind in just calling him a loser. So many adjectives to pick from....................... and none flattering.
We have almost open primaries here in NC too. If you are registered Unaffliated, you can pick which party you join for the day to vote in the primary. I knew a couple of die hard Republicans that switched to Unaffliated to vote in the 2008 Dem primaries to keep that battle going. Of course these are the same "Christian Conservatives" that would pull the lever for Satan if he had an "R" after his name.
Ah Rick, keep your pie hole shut on this. Democrats are more likely to vote for you in this election as you would be easier to beat in November. You want the votes Ricky shut up!
So Romney doesn't believe that the Democrats should do to him what he tried to do to them? Make one wonder about what he teaches his own children. What a lying sack of garbage.
Shame on Kidnapper Mitt Romney.
For over 5 years now we've been reminded time and time again that Mitt Romney will do or say anything to become President. Senator McCain proved it 4 years ago.
The only reason Romney is doing well today is because the Supreme Court decided corporations can spend unlimited money to buy an election. The entire primary season, we've seen Romney's billionaires outspend every candidate by wide margins and yet he barely wins.
During the fall, America must take a stand on whether to vote for corporations to run America (Romney) or if America belongs to We the People (Obama).
I'd rather go for Ron Paul, but I see your point.
Romney is a baffoon. Think of the embarrassment he'd be as a President! Flipping and flopping for all the world to see.
Just like a fish out of water.
What a stupid story...LOL
What stupid candudates the republicons have running, as usual.
I just heard a rumor that Romney's kids have just signed their own book deal. They're going to call the book $#*! My Dad Says To Get Elected!!!
hemroid - and Obama did exactly what to get elected? Tell the truth? LMAO! The dork never even had a job before he became a State Legislator then an absent two year U.S. Senator that did absolutely zero in that body except vote "present".
The truth sucks doesn't it?
Sorry Rebelwcause, but that's nothing more than outright Propaganda.
Yes, Obama voted "present" 129 times as a state senator, however, these votes represented a small portion — a little more than 3 percent — of the roughly 4,000 votes he cast as a member of the state Senate, as per FactCheck.org
Of course, presenting the entire picture would require integrity, of which you have none.
rjj - I am referring to his U.S. Senate record you dope. His flimsy credentials as a State Senator that the liberal press uses as an excuse for experience were mentioned only as a precursor to his inexperience on a national level.
rebel,,,you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the a s s.
Not only that but instead of taking a job on Wall Street out of Harvard, where he could have made major dollars, he took a low, if any, paying job organizing the community to help improve their lot.
Big difference between he and Mitt in that respect.
Do Not Feed The Troll
fedup - rebut my point(s) made instead of throwing a toss-off insult. That's all you Dems have in this campaign season! Going to be a bad Fall - and fall - for you come November.
Marky - he took a job living off the public sector because it requires little effort. He is lazy. He is a lazy President. How else can you explain his proclivity to not lead both parties to get things done? Instead he just points fingers at all but him. What exactly did he implement as an organizer that led to long-term solutions for the vexing problems in Chicagoland? How about zero?
That probably one bigass book!
RebelWCause, you have your facts backwards ther buddy. There was no problem with Obama's record as U.S. Senator... that inaccurate rumor was started by knucklehead-in-chief Sarah Palin who claimed that Obama had 150 "present" votes in the U.S. Senate (actually referring to his record as a state senator in Illinois).
from mediamatters: "While it's true that Obama's absentee rate skyrocketed in the third and fourth years of his term, when he was running for president, we found that he cast votes on more than 180 separate days in 2005 and 2006, combined. And that undercounts his total days on the job, because the Senate does not necessarily vote every day that it's in session, and because we didn't count the (admittedly smaller) number of voting days he was present in 2007 and 2008."
The same thing happened to McCain while he was running... he missed 68% of votes while campaigning, and for the entire year of 2007, actually missed 79 more votes than Obama. But you NEVER hear him being criticized by the radical right.
It's so nice to know that not one single person will vote for Obama today ....
I hope that trend spreads across all of America ....
Media Matters as a source? Are you kidding me rjj? Geore Soros is your source? You really are a dope.
Rebel, There are plenty of non-partisan sources where you can get info such as the following: Obama sponsored 137 bills from 4 Jan 2005 until 16 November 2008. During the same time period, Obama has co-sponsored 689 bills in total.
You parrot Rush and Beck, and then complain about Soros' money funding a site to counteract their daily drivel? Hypocritical much?
Thanks for sharing that good news, Da Noid. I've been worried about the Romney kids---none of them seem to have jobs and their trust funds are only $100 million. The book sales will help.
Concerning the worldwide issues and the American issues that have gone unchanged or unfixed, I would say he is still thinking he is a Senator. All I hear is "Present!" followed by "YOU LIE!!" HA, Go Wilson! There are points in time where living in South Carolina certainly does have its humor, and I laugh at the entire bunch. Tired of the pandering and the political back and forth on issues. Every politician does it, and quite honestly, the media invokes a bi-polar response with many of its questions.
Now, all you individuals running amok stating how Romney is flip-flopping, how about your beloved Obama? I believe he eventually flip-flopped on Guantanomo did he not? I believe his job creation strategy wasn't a great highlight of his presidency these past 4 years either, especially with the veto of the Keystone pipeline? Notice the "Big Corporate industries" are side-stepping his veto to assure that the Keystone pipeline continues WITHOUT his authorization (because it won't be necessary any longer). Sounds like someone doesn't have control... Present!!
Rebel stated 2 years - that clearly was his tenure in the Senate, he was a state senator for 8 years.
key words here "stay calm" and "reading comprehension".
he should change his name to rebelwithoutaclue
"he should change his name to rebelwithoutaclue"
Or Chlamydia, Blithering Idiot, or Plumber's Friend. All would be more appropriate and I bet they're still available.
Who cares what Santorum is doing? He is an idiot for doing it mainly because it provides cover for what the Tricky Dick President Barack Milhous Obama and his minions already are trying to accomplish - sabotaging Romney, the opponent they do not want to face!
Obama and the deceased liar Nixon are two peas in a pod. And that's a fact. Compare them in deeds and in words. They both love disregarding the Constitution to fit their political needs.
Rebel, you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer! In fact, make sure they keep sharp objects away from you. You might hurt yourself. And make sure you are wearing your helmet.
tell me exactly why I'm not the sharpest knife hockey puck. I've forgotten more than you know about politics.
How the heck did Nixon get mixed into this? Your mind seems to be firing at random.
Rebel, it is really sad to see someone so angry. I hope I can safely assume that you voted in the last presidential election. If not you have no gripe. I don't know you and would never stoop to calling you any derogitory names. You can disagree with anyone you want but check out the facts first. I don't know Obama's voting record but it is easy to check. And, if you think the President is lazy show why. Do you spend time with him? If not, you just plain don't know.
rebelwcause - The point is, you've FORGOTTEN, and clearly aren't competent to discuss something you don't recall. You are such an angry and unintelligent poster. So sad. You compare Obama to Nixon (one of you guys) but you forgot to mention Bush who didn't even know the Constitution exists. You should just go into your quiet place and calm down. Clearly you're out of control (or your mind - whatever!)
Romney should be encouraged. If the Michigan primary is won by Santorum because the Democrats do what he fully admits to doing frequently himself, it means what? That Romney sucks less??
What a priss. Every time something like this happens to him, Little Mitsy gets that entitled look on his face expressing, "You would dare do this to me??? Don't you know who I am???"
Never have I seen in my lifetime, from either party, a bigger wimp than Romney (and I suffered through George the First!!!). He is a disgrace to himself, his family and to his religion. May his Cadillacs always malfunction.
shocked - save your misinformation for imbeciles who will soak up your MSLSD TV inspired BS. Pass it off to the NY Times - they'll even name you as an confidential source and advisor to the Obama Campaign - which has never ended since 2008 at the expense of all Americans. Including dopes like you.
Ohh..poor little rebel with the useless cause. "Misinformation" is just too big of a word for you, isn't it. The fact that Mitsy is crying about someone doing to him what he did to others is documented. Sorry you can't keep up.
Did you throw a little hissy-fit like this when Bush 2 was campaigning?
That Mittens went to the Dem. side is probably going to be more upsetting to some of his faithful than when he took Seamus roof-surfing.
Of course he did! Always "hedging!"
Mint Rawmoney certainly is talented! He always can make it up onto the debate stage, even with both feet in his mouth!
Mr. Magicpants, the two-faced, double talkin' hypocrite should note Bill Clinton is one of the best Presidents this country ever had. Record surpluses, no soldiers murdered in wars of choice and a roaring economy....things only a teabagger can hate.
I agree that Clinton was probably the best president of my lifetime and I'm 40.
Reagan was pretty good, but he had some issues.
The fact that Romney thought Clinton was a bad choice for the country just shows how out of touch with reality he is. Clinton had issues with his personal life, but as a president he was a golden child. Everyone liked him, he built a surplus and everything was going our way. So of course the Republicans tried to take him down for getting some. Don't start the whole it wasn't about the blow job it was about him lying to congress about it. Congress had no place in asking the question. Now if Hillary had asked he would have been in trouble. That is not a woman I would want mad at me.
Against Bill Clinton? When Clinton was elected the DOW was at 3300, when he left it was over 11,000
When Bush was Elected DOW was 11,000, when he left it was 8,000 and the country was in the dumper
I think Romney finally took a stand on something. He's for dirty politics as long as they aren't used against him.
Mitt Romney - a model of consistency if ever there was one!
yea Obama tooted his horn about bailing out Government Motors and Fiat. And how about those $7K bonuses paid to all of the union workers instead of paying the taxpayers back. Yea that's something to be proud of. Isn't it nice to be one of the favorites.
And that is an outstanding speech. wake up sheeple, if you are not one of Obama's favored voting constituencies (union, minority, illegal alien, welfare recipeint) you are subsidizing his re-election.
Young people wake up because you are the useful idiots. Tell you what give me your credit card and I'll be sure to buy some good stuff with it trust me. Don't worry I'll get some rich guy to pay the card off. Don't you worry. He is mortgaging your future by refusing to address the national debt.
Watch FoxNews much, wreckin?
Nice reply how about addressing this issues moron.
and then the name calling starts. Typical.
Ok, use your brain much? address the issues
wreckinball - I hope you were as outraged about wall streets 6, 7, and 8 figures bonuses after the Bush bank bailouts. Just pick on the blue collar workers and their gargantuan 4 figure bonuses. I'm sure you are one, who hoped they failed, ya loser!
Campaign slogan..Mitt Romney Constant Change..You can count on it..or not ...depends.
wreckingball; Simple way to address the national debt; "AX THE TAX CODE" with its $1.1 TRILLION in "breaks, exemptions & loopholes"?? THERE IS YOUR "DEFICIT"????
amused - suddenly 'wreckinball' went quiet! Oops! He can't answer in a real debate!
No, "Constant Change" is very appropriate.
And gee catholic church no special waiver on Obama care for you. Those are reserved for the "special ones" SEIU UAW.
Yea that's the guy we need to vote for. Can't wait for the next patronizing speech promising another block of special interests goodies that others get to pay for.
why should the catholic church get a waiver? for what?
This is the 3rd post of yours that makes no sense. Use facts or proper English please.
Until the Church starts paying taxes like other businesses (yes, they are a business), they should not be able to say a word in the political forum besides, "thank you!".
great grasp of the constitution Steveo, paying taxes or not paying taxes does not null and void constitutional rights
So your argument is that the Catholic church shouldn't have to play by the same rules as all other employers in the country?
Sounds like you think the church is above the laws of man. Only as an Athiest that means I should be scared to point of going after the church as they are a priveledged entity that threatens my lifestyle. Clearly if they are above the laws of man they can kill any time they feel like it, so I should respond in kind.
agreed or in the church case is it A Greed. can't have it both ways..
be a business or be a church.. but you cannot jump back and forth...that's all folks are saying...
That's an idiotic idea that I thought only someone with no integrity (like Rush Limbaugh) would suggest. And these guys have the nerve to call themselves patriots?