A day before Michigan primary, Santorum targets the president

 

LANSING, Mich. – During a rally of 300 people here Monday afternoon, Rick Santorum said gas prices caused the 2008 recession and he suggested President Barack Obama is intentionally causing unemployment.

“The bubble burst in housing because people couldn't pay their mortgages because we're looking at $4-a-gallon gasoline,” Santorum said. “And look at what happened – economic decline."

After the event, the former Pennsylvania senator hedged his comments a bit. "I think they're a contributing factor," he said, shaking hands with voters. "Obviously there are a lot of factors that go into it but I think that was one of them."


Santorum and former Gov. Mitt Romney have stumped across the Wolverine State trying to convince voters that they are the true conservative in the race. Now, one day before the Michigan primary, Santorum has shifted his tough talk to President Barack Obama.

"Look at any map or chart of standard of living in a country, and then look at the availability of cost of energy – the lower the energy cost, the higher the standard of living,” Santorum said. “Now we are deliberately lowering our standard of living, deliberately causing unemployment. Why would a president do that?"

His answer Monday, as it has been at all his stops in the Rust Belt states, is that Obama is putting the environment ahead of people.

"He’s a perfectly nice man," Santorum said of Obama. "He just has a very different view of America. And let’s be honest, he is doing a pretty effective job of promoting that view and passing legislation and regulations that are consistent with his view of what America should be like.”

Santorum also targeted Romney’s record and called on the crowd for their support tomorrow.

"To be attacked on television as someone who is not an authentic conservative by a Massachusetts governor is a joke," Santorum said to laughter. "Michigan, you have the opportunity to stop the joke."

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Lots of luck Mr. Limp Wrist!

You, little Ricky are about as relevant as Jello left out in the AZ sun for a couple of hours...

Turn off the lights and say GOOD Night Ricky, with any luck, the Mrs. might be feeling kind of frisky tonight! You can work on making baby #8!

In the meantime, give the rest of America a break & some resemblance of sanity!

  • 17 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:28 PM EST

“The bubble burst in housing because people couldn't pay their mortgages because we're looking at $4-a-gallon gasoline,

Ah, so the every so smart, educated in economics, Santorum finally explains the cause of the housing bubble that occurred under Bush's watch. Well, thanks Mr. Santorum, every economist in the world has been twirling their hair wondering what caused that massive burst.

What is more likely is that gas caused the Santorum burst/surge, and well, google the rest.

  • 8 votes
#1.1 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:02 PM EST

Off topic but quite amusing --

Mitt Romney came under criticism Monday for recalling a seminal moment from his childhood in Detroit that actually took place nine months before he was born.

Romney told the gathering in Milford, Mich., he was "probably 4 or something" at the time of the jubilee, which attracted 750,000 people to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the American automobile. There was just one problem.

The Golden Jubilee described so vividly by Romney was indeed an epic moment in automotive lore. The parade included one of the last public appearances by an elderly Henry Ford. And it took place June 1, 1946 -- fully nine months before Romney was born.

  • 16 votes
#1.2 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:05 PM EST

I never, never, ever thought I'd agree with Feisty Girly_Bits but dang, this guys just a bit weird.

Mitt.....she's all yours

Obama's gonna crap when he has to figure out how to win over the middle class voter against you....Obama's one-n-done baby!

  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:06 PM EST

June 1, 1946 -- fully nine months before Romney was born.

Dennis - Very funny. Perhaps it was that auto show that ignited the gleam in his daddies eye.

  • 10 votes
#1.4 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:16 PM EST

"Look at any map or chart of standard of living in a country, and then look at the availability of cost of energy – the lower the energy cost, the higher the standard of living,”

Really. I can think a few countries where gas is real cheap but freedom is absent. What countries, maps or charts is this guy looking at? Seriously!

  • 6 votes
#1.5 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:25 PM EST

Well, DCIA - yet another Santorum lie you politely pointed out. Norway has the highest standard of living in the world, and gas is twice what it is in the U.S. Poor Santorum just can't get any truth behind his talking points. Oh, and for you 'Europe is socialized' freaks out there, Norway is not a socialist country.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/10/news/international/gas_prices_worldwide/index.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

  • 13 votes
#1.6 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:57 PM EST

Thanks for expanding on that Red!

  • 1 vote
#1.7 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:10 PM EST

Just when you think the statements can't get any loonier, Rick proves us all wrong.

  • 7 votes
#1.8 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:24 PM EST

Just when you think the statements can't get any loonier, Rick proves us all wrong.

TOG - I think Santorum is trying, and I must say succeeding, in outdoing Bachmann in the idiot statement department. I think it is time that we ask for proof of his degree and a copy of the transcripts. I am starting to believe he failed every single course.

  • 10 votes
#1.9 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:50 PM EST

If the Republican presidential candidates and congress stop with the ignorant statements Jon Stewart and Steve Colbert will have a hard time getting a show together.

  • 5 votes
#1.10 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:58 PM EST

You, little Ricky are about as relevant as Jello left out in the AZ sun for a couple of hours...

You must be referring to Governor Jan Brewer.

  • 1 vote
#1.11 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:05 AM EST

Really. I can think a few countries where gas is real cheap but freedom is absent. What countries, maps or charts is this guy looking at? Seriously!

According to Forbes:

The countries where you can find the cheapest gas at the pump, in U.S. dollars per gallon (2010):

1. Venezuela (7.6 cents)
2. Iran (37.9 cents)
3. Saudi Arabia (60.6 cents)
4. Libya (64.4 cents)
5. Qatar (71.9 cents)
6. Bahrain (79.5 cents)
7. Turkmenistan (83.3 cents)
8. Kuwait (87.1 cents)
9. Oman ($1.173)
10. Algeria ($1.211)

All fabulous places to live! Go, Ricky!! GO AWAY.

  • 2 votes
#1.12 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:11 AM EST

#1.1:What is more likely is that gas caused the Santorum burst/surge, and well, google the rest.

Well, what will cause the exit of this scumball, santorum? I hope it is something (losing michigan perhaps). I am sick and tired of seeing and hearing him; he makes no sense at all about anything!

Ugh, go away.

  • 3 votes
#1.13 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:30 AM EST
Reply

"The bubble burst in housing because people couldn't pay their mortgages because we're looking at $4-a-gallon gasoline," Santorum said. "And look at what happened – economic decline."

We need help Obama not Kelp!

  • 7 votes
#2 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:30 PM EST

So Rob is against the “all of the above” action to increase energy.

"We need an all-out, all-in, all-of-the-above strategy that develops every
source of American energy — a strategy that's cleaner and cheaper and full of
new jobs," our President said in the SOTU.

  • 13 votes
#2.1 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:43 PM EST

"the all-of-the-above" strategy was ironically a Republican mantra in the 2008 elections. It's been the Republican strategy all along. Fossil fuel, hydro, nuclear, clean coal, solar, and wind.

Unfortunately, President Obama "says" he is in favor of all of the above, but his actions and ideas are quite the opposite.

The solution here is to build the Keystone Pipeline, lift the moratorium on the Gulf, frack, drill, refine...whatever...while providing incentives to the private sector to come up with cost efficient alternatives. Government subsidies targeting crony companies will not provide the incentives needed to make a marketable alternative.

We need something similar to the Manhattan Project.

  • 5 votes
#2.2 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:04 PM EST

POLITICO (02-27-12): President Barack Obama "welcomes" the news that TransCanada will start building the southern portion of the Keystone XL pipeline. TransCanada announced Monday that it will treat the section of the pipeline project from Cushing, Okla., to Texas refineries as a stand-alone project and not part of the presidential permit process that has tied up approval of the entire project starting in Canada.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/73329.html

  • 6 votes
#2.3 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:11 PM EST

Monday's announcement "makes the president appear reasonable. After all, now he only has concerns about the Nebraska segment." He added: "Emphasis on the word 'appear.' It is, after all campaign season."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/73329_Page2.html#ixzz1ndjgFQQt

We'll see how that progresses. As you note, though, the go-ahead goes ahead after it found a way around President Obama's obstruction.

I'm pleased that nuclear permits were granted.

Now, if the President would stop throwing tax payer funded venture capital at clean energy businesses his friends are involved in or energy technology that needs long term tax payer subsidies to survive, I'd be happy with that, too.

  • 1 vote
#2.4 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:35 PM EST

Dennis -

Then why does Obama want additional 'studies' done on the pipeline? He has halted the project to do so. When will the 'studies' be done? Personally, it looks like he is pandering to the 'environmentalists' by stopping the pipeline while trying to say that the project is still on. He needs to make a decision and live by it.

  • 1 vote
#2.5 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:38 PM EST

The Bush administration's energy policy and its $31 billion bill that's emerged in Congress seem to be a pretty sweet deal for big business, including at least one in Georgia.

Administration policy was crafted largely in secret by Vice President Dick Cheney and energy industry executives shortly after President Bush assumed office in 2001. The White House refused on several occasions to make public documents that involved the energy policy discussions, leaving many people skeptical about who truly might benefit from the recommendations sent to Republican leaders in Congress. Many of the participants were generous contributors to the Bush-Cheney 2000 election campaign.

http://home.earthlink.net/~acisney6/id45.html

  • 9 votes
#2.6 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:42 PM EST

Bob numbers--even you can't possibly believe the mortgage collapse was caused by the anticipation of high gas prices. this santorum will say the first thing that comes into his mind every day. then the next two days 'splainin' . Loser.

  • 4 votes
#2.7 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:44 PM EST

Tammy,

So he is ignoring the unions? Which is it?

It was Nebraska that has asked for a different routing through their State.

  • 6 votes
#2.8 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:46 PM EST

First, the person who wanted more environmental studies was the Governor of Nebraska, a Republican, who was worried about Keystone's environmental record, and the fact that it was going to cross an important aquafir that provides drinking water for his state.

Second, let's bust the myth that this pipeline will help lower gas/energy prices: http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/27/10519685-why-the-keystone-pipeline-would-boost-pump-prices

  • 9 votes
#2.9 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:50 PM EST

At the White House Daily Press Briefing on Tuesday, 2/21/12 it was said “The President didn’t turn down the Keystone Pipeline.” He said “There was a process in place with long precedent, run out of the State Department because of the issue of a pipeline crossing an international boundary, that required an amount of time for proper review after an alternate route was deemed necessary through Nebraska, at the request of the Republican governor of Nebraska and other stakeholders in Nebraska and the region, that needed to take its – that needed to play out to be done appropriately. You can’t review and approve a pipeline, the route for which doesn’t even exist.”

“The delay was the result of a decision made to honor the concerns of those in Nebraska, including the Republican governor, who felt that the proposed pipeline associated with the permit request ran through a portion of Nebraska that would threaten the aquifer – threaten the water supply in Nebraska said Carney. “The decision was then made to delay approval, delay the process to allow for examination of alternate routes.”

  • 9 votes
#2.10 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:50 PM EST

Dennis, are you saying that since President Bush went about the formation of his energy policy in suspect ways, it's okay for President Obama to do so, too?

In 2001, people were "left skeptical" about who truly might benefit, making corruption in the deals just conjecture. In President Obama's administration the "beneficiaries" are very obvious. That the "beneficiaries" are very obvious is either due to subpar shady business techniques, or plain old fashioned Chicago arrogance. Sadly, a lot of people are deciding it's arrogance.

    #2.11 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:54 PM EST

    Every President does it.

    I believe it only fair to make sure everyone sees it.

    Here is more --

    In 2002 Halliburton was awarded a 7 billion dollar contract for which only Halliburton was allowed to bid. The very same company headed from 1995 to 2000 by Dick Cheney.

    Vice President Dick Cheney's stock options in Halliburton rose from $241,498 in 2004 to over $8 million in 2005, an increase of more than 3,000 percent, as Halliburton continues to rake in billions of dollars from no-bid/no-audit government contracts.

    • 7 votes
    #2.12 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:57 PM EST

    So if every President does it, you're okay with it? I've read your posts, Dennis, and you always come off as a reasonable person, and presenter of facts. That's why I'm surprised you're condoning the blatant cronyism of the President's energy policy so far. I suppose, then, you were okay with Vice President Cheney's windfall, too.

    I'd prefer to see the end of the continued sleazy practices that disregard the value of my tax payer money, regardless of which side does it.

    And, again, if President Obama's intent is to enrich his friends at the expense of the American people he is supposed to represent, I wish he'd do it in a less in-our-faces, condescending sort of way.

      #2.13 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:18 PM EST

      I'm NOT OK with it ... I'm just tired of

      1. No one in Congress doing anything about it

      2. All the focus on this President without acknowledgement that other Presidents have done the same.

      • 8 votes
      #2.14 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:32 PM EST

      You people don't know what's going on with the oil we buy that comes from the US. The oil that comes out of the ground of the US is sold at a profit to a friend named Bob, who sells it at a profit to his friend Allen, who sells it at a profit to his friend Sam, so that by the time we get it for gasoline the price has be ran up to the going market rate. In other words, just like the oil coming from the Alaskan pipeline which is sold to Japan the last time I checked, it doesn't matter if we start pumping oil at a higher rate than Saudi Arabia we will be paying the world market that the oil companies want us to pay. They are running up the price to rip off the American consumer and with monopoly regulations it will continue.

      Look what they are doing to NY. They are charging for gasoline like they are using Brent Crude even though they use Texas crude to make the gasoline. There are not that many refineries that refine the crude into products. They have "accidentally" blown up all they didn't want anymore.

      @ Dennis

      Give it up. These Obama haters won't give this president any credit for anything good. Even when he does the same thing as other Republican presidents. To them it's now wrong.

      • 9 votes
      #2.15 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:46 PM EST

      Thank you Larry for stating a fact. Inthis country where information is so available, why are people so ignorant. Demand for gas is global thus the price is set in the global market. All the keystone pipeline is going to do is make it easier to get that oil to China, that's it. Well, that and make the Kochs another billion. The US is EXPORTING millions of barrels of oil every day. The government would have to completely take over the oil market in this country for the president to be able to effect the price the way republicans seem to think he can. If is so dang easy to control the price of gas why couldn't Bush do it?? The GOPers live in fantasy land.

      • 6 votes
      #2.16 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:05 PM EST

      Larry

      Give it up. These Obama haters won't give this president any credit for anything good. Even when he does the same thing as other Republican presidents. To them it's now wrong.

      #2.4 I'm pleased that nuclear permits were granted.

      #2.13 I'd prefer to see the end of the continued sleazy practices that disregard the value of my tax payer money, regardless of which side does it.

      Selective reading, Larry?

        #2.17 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:16 PM EST

        Candice, your internet connection and microwave were also brought to you by federal investment. This isn't new nor is it inappropriate for a country to invest in innovation.

        I'd like to see clean energy investment paid by ending oil subsidies. But I don't want to see my country fall behind in the world because you don't have enough vision to see that clean energy will soon be very important.

        Also, I want the oil companies to have some competition which would make their refining processes more efficient.

        • 6 votes
        #2.18 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:58 AM EST
        Reply

        Santorum is looking for a new hot button issue at this late date. He really is running out of topics and voters.

        • 11 votes
        Reply#3 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:36 PM EST

        I will vote for Santorum and so will a lot of people I have talked to - even those who actually voted for Obama in 2008.

        • 3 votes
        #3.1 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:13 PM EST

        "He’s a perfectly nice man," Santorum said of Obama. "He just has a very different view of America.

        So voters have a choice: Rick's rigid theocratic view of America, or President Obama's hopeful view of America....

        Okay, really not a choice. We WILL NOT give this great nation to anyone like Sanatorium who wants to greedily TAKE all it has to offer for himself.

        Guess this is not the hot button he was seeking Northstar.

        • 7 votes
        #3.2 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:17 PM EST

        Go,

        Maybe your bandwagon is filling up, but I don't think there's 70 million people dumb enough to vote for Sweater Vest that are smart enough to fill out their voter registration AND remember what day is election day AND find their polling place AND work those newfangled voting machines AND remember how to get back home.

        • 2 votes
        #3.3 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:59 PM EST
        Reply

        Santorum is actually saying "...President Barack Obama is intentionally causing unemployment"???

        This evil little creep richly deserves the ass kicking he is going to receive at the polls if he is ever unlucky enough to face President Obama in November. Yessir.

        • 17 votes
        Reply#4 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:46 PM EST

        the lower the energy cost, the higher the standard of living,” Santorum said. “Now we are deliberately lowering our standard of living, deliberately causing unemployment. Why would a president do that?"

        I don't know, Santorum, because this president is not doing that! Your lies are sinking your image and chances fast! I would say that Obama is trying to help raise everyone's standard of living, unlike conservatives, who could care less if people have health care, education, clean air & water, etc. Those things certainly contribute to quality of life, wouldn't you say?!

        • 13 votes
        Reply#5 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:49 PM EST

        Bethie! You ROCK!!

        • 4 votes
        #5.1 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:47 PM EST

        Thanks, Lyn!!

        • 3 votes
        #5.2 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:14 AM EST
        Reply

        I think Santorum is correct. Obama and his energy secretary are both on record as having been in favor of increased energy and gas prices. Obama was talking about electricity (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4) and Chu was talking about fuel prices (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/73138.html).

        Bethie: Increasing the number of people dependent on the federal government for food, housing, health care, etc is not raising anyone's standard of living. All it does is raise the percentage of people who are beholden to the federal government for what they should be providing for themselves. And if you really believe that conservatives don't care about clean air, water, or education, then I don't think you are capable of thinking for yourself.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#6 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:09 PM EST

        Go USA It's a fact the republicans are running on polluting our air, polluting our water, and eliminating education, and if you haven't figured that out yet you are completely incapable of thinking. Hell, it's all they got. Well except for cramming there religion down everyones throat.

        • 9 votes
        #6.1 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:57 PM EST

        So...you disagree with Santorum, who calls Obama a snob for hoping everyone has a chance for a higher education? And, you disagree with most conservatives who would like to see the Keystone pipeline built at any cost to the environment (and thus our quality of life)?

        Please go back and read my post--I say nothing about being dependent on the government for those things. You are reading with your blinders on. My property taxes help fund the local school district. I pay for insurance. I pay for my water bill. Yes, some people are unable to pay for their food. Does that make them unworthy of an education? Of good health? How does that help our society be more productive? I have heard way too many conservatives say that health care is a privilege, not a right. I just feel the opposite is true.

        • 5 votes
        #6.2 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:24 AM EST
        Reply

        Santorum is a bait-and-switch candidate. Just hate President Obama and vote for tricky Rickie, he is promising to take you to seven heavens... but when you wake up, you will find yourself in his political hell.

        Just vote for me and you will see... your kids/grandkids won't be graduating from college. Think of religious boot camp for your kids so they won't end up like President Obama.

        • 5 votes
        Reply#8 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:27 PM EST

        Basic Sanitarium positions:

        Sex for procreation only

        Against the concept of publicly funded schools

        Mandate teaching of religious based "Creationism" is school science classes

        All laws should be based on Santorum's religion

        Global climate change is a liberal hoax.

        Anyone supporting the notion that EVERYONE should have access to college education is a "snob".

        College is nothing but "liberal professors" indoctrinating youth in secular, liberal thinking.

        In summary, RS is the biggest ass hole to run in recent memory. This religious nut case is all about turning the clock back centuries.

        Sure, there have been right wing idiot nut cases to come along through the years but they were always laughed off the stage. But not with today's Republican party. This clown is getting real support within the party. This is proof that the Republican party is fast becoming the party of the stupid and uneducated. I've never voted Republican but we benefit from a REAL second party. One in which serious policy discussions can be held. Instead we get the everything must be based on God's law crap. Who's God? Which interpretation? Who the F decides what the F is "God's law"? How does one even begin any kind of serious discussion when listening to idiotic crap like that.

        If the Republican party wants to be taken even half seriously going forward, the other presidential candidates have got to grow a pair and stand up an tell this moron to STFU.

        • 10 votes
        Reply#9 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:32 PM EST

        The man is obviously not an economist, nor does he know what happened to cause the recession. I could point him to a few books, and a ton of articles, if he was interested in what actually caused the recession . . . but I doubt that he is interested in the truth, or those pesky things called 'facts'. He isn't lying . . . probably . . . he just really does not understand what happened. I guess ignorance is bliss, and from his blissful smile, he must really be ignorant.

        • 13 votes
        Reply#10 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:40 PM EST

        Santorum has an MBA. I am quite certain he knows a bit more than most about the economy.

        • 1 vote
        #10.1 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:55 PM EST

        Santorum has an MBA. I am quite certain he knows a bit more than most about the economy

        If Santorum thinks rising gas prices caused the housing bubble, he is an epic failure at economics. If he also thinks that the standard of living is highest in those countries with the cheapest gasoline, he is a failure in both social sciences and economics. His MBA is useless.

        • 12 votes
        #10.2 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:07 PM EST

        Well then I guess he's just lying, huh Go USA?

        • 5 votes
        #10.3 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:10 PM EST

        Considering many here believe Bush caused the housing bubble, what's another outrageous claim?

          #10.4 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:20 AM EST

          So educate us mhrjhn. who or what caused the housing bubble? back up your statements.

            #10.5 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:43 AM EST

            An MBA is not a degree in economics, otherwise, businesses run by MBAs would not hire Economists. And we saw how electing an MBA for president worked out when you guys elected G. W. Bush . . . twice.

            Once again: a household budget is not the same as a business budget, is not the same as an national economy. You cannot run a household the same way you run a business, and you cannot run a country the same way you run a business. A country is not a business, nor is it a household. Until this sinks into all of you right wingers trying to conflate the three, you will only continue to look, and sound foolish.

            • 2 votes
            #10.6 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:53 AM EST
            Reply

            Drill, Frac, Stripmine, suck the life out of our country. The longer we rely on fossil fuel the harder it will be to get off of it. We should have seriously started seeking alternative energy 40 years ago. If you believe those commercials about Fracking is clean and safe your stupider than Rick Santorum, Mitt and Palin. Hey, why don't we turn Yellowstone into a steam driven power plant? or just make the entire state of Texas a refinery? You Morons, I hope you don't crap in your kitchen.

            • 5 votes
            Reply#11 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:40 PM EST

            http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/27/10519685-why-the-keystone-pipeline-would-boost-pump-prices

            So, the pipeline would actually raise gas prices for parts of the country. And who benefits from this? Oil companies that get to make more profits. Why? Just because they can then sell this oil on the international market rather than the local one.

            Come on, people, think of the oil companies! The poor, downtrodden oil companies raking in their paltry tens of billions of dollars in profits every year and paying zero taxes. Poor, poor, big oil. My heart bleeds for you. A single tear falls from the corner of my eye. :^(

            • 11 votes
            Reply#12 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:43 PM EST

            The federal government makes more on a gallon of gas than the oil companies do.

            • 1 vote
            #12.1 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:01 PM EST

            I'm sure you can provide proof to back up your statement, right, Go USA? Right? ...Hello? Hello? Is this thing on?

            • 8 votes
            #12.2 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:05 PM EST

            They are saying their profits, not their gross sales, are less than the taxes the government levies. I owned a beer distributorship for many years and you could use the same flawed reasoning in that industry, too.

            Nice try, but fail.

            • 8 votes
            #12.4 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:20 PM EST

            The profit margin in oil is lower than the profit margin of lots of other companies.

              #12.5 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:26 PM EST

              Now you're shifting gears, Go USA. You are making broad, vague, and innacurate statements that cannot be substantiated by facts. When you're busted you try to change the parameters of your original lie in hopes you can rope in a fact or a truth by accident. Give it up.

              • 8 votes
              #12.6 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:29 PM EST

              DOE actually publishes a breakdown of gas costs: http://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/

              At current national averages, 12% goes to taxes (which includes federal, state, and local); 76% goes to crude oil. What do you think the margin is on a barrel of oil at $100?

              Yes, the oil companies hide that cost by drilling for oil at $30 per barrel, then selling it to themselves at the market rate of $100 per barrel. And the gas stations that actually sell the gas make a very thin profit margin.

              If you take the federal excise tax of 18.4 cents per gallon, multiply by the 140 billion gallons of gasoline America consumes in a year, you get about $25 billion in federal taxes. For comparison, Exxon Mobile last year posted a profit of $45 billion. Just that one company. And they're even more profitable now with increasing oil prices.

              • 6 votes
              #12.7 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:33 PM EST

              Wow. Go USA just got severely out classed on here. Those facts are a hard thing to argue with. And to think most of the GOP is as ignorant as this guy. No wonder Santorum is polling so well.

              • 5 votes
              #12.8 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:15 PM EST

              Oh Nathan, now you've done it. GOUSA wanted so badly to bash Obama and the American government, and now you've blown a hole in his argument. Not to worry, I'm sure he/she will be back with another unresearched false claim. Much like Newt's claim that gas will be 2.50 if he is president, or much like Santorum's recent claims.

              • 3 votes
              #12.9 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:23 PM EST

              The profit margin in oil is lower than the profit margin of lots of other companies.

              Except this isn't true. You're mistaking OIL for GASOLINE. Gasoline is a byproduct of oil, not the oil itself.

              • 1 vote
              #12.10 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:01 AM EST
              Reply

              Does anyone else remember when Santorum's kids were living at the family home in VA and going to on-line school in the PA system--paid by the PA school district they claimed as a "residence"?

              • 4 votes
              Reply#13 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:47 PM EST

              I don't think that's illegal. You see, they paid property taxes (you know - the funding mechanism for schools) on the house they had in Pennsylvania. Why do you care?

              • 1 vote
              #13.1 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:57 PM EST

              I care because santorum wants to put education back into the one room schoolhouse with the toilet out back.

              • 4 votes
              #13.2 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:51 AM EST

              Yeah he wants to put us back in the 1800's. This man ina bonafide idiot. He is a right wing religious creep no different than those Imans and Mullah's in the middle east.

              • 5 votes
              #13.3 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:51 AM EST
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              Man, this guy just can't keep his trap shut. Or does he intentionally want to give the nomination to Romney. All he had to do was shut the heck up for two more weeks but noooo he had to blow it. He would of had plenty of time to blow it up until November.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#14 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:38 PM EST

              Yep, ALL MBA's are geniuses, just like little mister sweater vest:

              A man is visiting a Pacific Island and is astonished to see the following in a banner outside a restaurant:

              Today's specials:
              Brain of engineer: $ 15
              Brain of architect: $ 20
              Brain of MBA: $ 250

              He says to one of the waiters, "Wow, the brain of an MBA must be unbelievably delicious!"
              The waiter replies, "Are you kidding? Do you have any idea how many MBA's it takes just to get a little, tiny bit of brain?"

              • 6 votes
              Reply#15 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:13 PM EST

              OK .. that was funny. Thank goodness the availability of snobby MBAs are a dime a dozen.

              • 2 votes
              #15.1 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:28 PM EST
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              "I can't beat Mitt Romney" Barack Obama............

              “A vote for Rick Santorum is a vote for me” Barack Obama “Democrats, cross the line and vote for me, I know you don’t like me, but it helps Obama if I beat Romney” Rick Santorum. ANYTHING SEEM STRANGE HERE? Michigan vote ROMNEY.

              Romney Beats Obama, no one else comes close. Don’t be played for a sap.

                Reply#16 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:22 PM EST

                Rick Santorum seems to be Doubling Down on Stupidity? Keep it up Rick you and the crowds that cheer you. Pretty soon people will realize that you are not of this Earth.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#17 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:46 PM EST

                Hopefully soon, the only unemployment that Obama will be causing will be Republicans in the House.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#18 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:50 PM EST

                Sorry but I can't believe what I just read! Mr. Santorum needs to take a break and think before he speaks.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#19 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:49 AM EST

                Senator Santorum also attacked President Kennedy, the first Catholic President--and whose eloquence and election made it possible for Senator Santorum to run as a candidate who is Catholic. Apart from alienating Catholics, he is alienating the 60+ demographic, many of whom were alive when the President was assassinated and liked him. To criticize a man, who cannot respond because he is dead, is not the way I was brought up.

                The whole GOP-Romney-Santorum circus would be great as satire on politics--except it is too implausible, even if real.

                • 6 votes
                Reply#20 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:52 AM EST

                Very good point, Sig. No matter your age or background, many people regard JFK as one of our national heroes. Bashing him is like bashing MLK Jr. or Lincoln. Not very smart--especially politically. JFK's speech supporting the separation of church and state is so important to people of faith, for it protects not only the public arena but also the church. We can worship freely because of this separation. I also do not want to go to church and hear political messages. In fact, I've recently changed churches because my former pastor could not help himself and kept bashing our government from the pulpit. Santorum seems like a duck out of water on the national stage.

                • 5 votes
                #20.1 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:37 AM EST

                Insulting a genuine war hero and assassinated president isn't going to win you many friends.

                • 3 votes
                #20.2 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:45 AM EST

                JFK is only considered a hero because he was assassinated. He was, by multiple accounts, a cad.

                  #20.3 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:53 PM EST

                  So you are treading on the memory of an American hero, go usa? Tell us who which GOP loser you are supporting in this primary race; the hypocritical religious extremist, the unrepentant crook and philanderer, or the cynical political hack? And you have the gall to disrespect JFK?

                  Your priorities are as flawed as your character.

                    #20.4 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:57 PM EST
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                    Michigan--your chance to stop the joke and put santorum back in the box.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#21 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:53 AM EST

                    hahaha Santorum is a simpleton.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#22 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:41 AM EST

                    I've said before and I'll say again, Santorum is a political genius. He throws out all this delicious red meat and we all nom nom nom while we laugh at him. But in political terms, nobody is talking about Romney or Gingrich and that's what he wants.

                    Then he turns to his base and says "See what the elite media is doing? Smearing me just to get Obama reelected". Thus securing his base in a competition where only the base matters.

                    I'm fairly confident his party boat will run out of gas but in the meantime, he's running his campaign exactly how he should.

                    On another front, the base wins either way because this pushes Romney further to the right and taking this fight to the convention means Romney has very little time to pivot back to middle against Obama. Which means Romney will have to run as a conservative against Obama for lack of time. The conservative base wins again.

                    Both are losing strategies since I think Obama will win in November but politically good moves for Santorum and the conservative base.

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#23 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:07 AM EST

                    It's a short-term strategy though. He will lose the general election by pandering to the far right to win the nomination.

                      #23.1 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:19 AM EST

                      I completely agree. But it may be enough to get him nominated.

                      • 2 votes
                      #23.2 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:54 AM EST
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                      Why on earth would any president intentionally work to have this country fail? How does this make any sense to Santorum? How does a poor economy become the goal of a president?

                      Santorum is beginning to unravel at an increasing rate of speed.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#24 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:51 AM EST

                      These environmentalists are a bunch of wackos. They are the ones who complained about smoking and we all know that the claims of 100's of thousands of people a year that die of cancer are exaggerated. They also worked to alert everyone about asbestos and we all know that did not really kill a lot of people. Besides, we do need the jobs and if we lose a few thousand people, it may be worth it. Now they cry about breathing particulate matter and kids getting asthma. What a bunch of cry babies. We need to let corporation do their thing and just get out of their way. I trust that the CEO's will act in out best interest most of the time.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#25 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:54 AM EST

                      Satire, right?

                      • 5 votes
                      #25.1 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:03 AM EST
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