ROCKFORD, Mich. -- In the final hours before Michiganders head to the polls, Mitt Romney is debuting a new argument against his chief rival Rick Santorum, that sounds a lot like his old arguments against Barack Obama.
"Sen. Santorum is a nice guy, but he’s never had a job in the private sector," Romney said. "He’s worked as a lobbyist and worked as an elected official, and that’s fine, but if the issue of the day is the economy, I think to create jobs it helps to have a guy as president who's had a job, and I have."
(Santorum was not a registered lobbyist. He did, however, work as a consultant for a D.C. lobbying firm, though he only made $65,000 from the group in 2010 and half of 2011.)
Romney has long described President Obama as a "nice guy" without the necessary experience to get the economy going again.
Spurring the economic conversation, an op-ed piece by Santorum in the Wall Street Journal this morning, in which he attacked Romney's new economic plan as emblematic of a "last-minute conversion," and "just more Obama-style class warfare."
This morning, Romney seemed to welcome the attack as an opportunity to refocus the conversation here to the economy -- his political bread and butter.
"I saw this morning that Sen. Santorum wrote a piece in the Wall Street Journal," Romney said. "I’m glad to see that. He wrote a piece in there about the economy and tax policy and regulatory policy. I’m glad he recognizes this is going to be a campaign about the economy. It’s time for him to really focus on the economy and for you to all say, 'OK, if the economy is going to be the issue we focus on who has the experience to actually get this economy going again?'"
The possibility of a realignment around economic issues comes after days of back-and-forth attacks between Romney and Santorum who most polls show locked in a dead heat in Michigan. And after a weekend in which Santorum, once again, seemed to be fighting the culture wars.
Today, the battle line seemed to be drawn over whose economic plan could be the boldest, with Romney staking an outsider claim in language seemingly borrowed from his famously verbose rival, Newt Gingrich.
"We need dramatic change, fundamental change in Washington," Romney said. "We have to say we’re going to dramatically change the structure of Washington, send whole host of programs back to states where they can be better run, get rid of some programs. That’s not going to happen by someone who is a creature of Washington, someone who’s spent their life in Washington.”


Wlliard,
Do you mean like you wanting to let Detroit go BANKRUPT?
Stick to what you know something about, like trees being just the right height in MI & how many cars the Mrs. drives!
Romney is missing the most important point .Its about creating jobs not " firing people ". I have yet to hear anything constructive come out of his mouth, as far as what he would do for the people . And by people i don't mean his catering to the cults !
Well, in Romney's defense, when you fire someone, you create a job opening...
Yeah, stick to the height of the trees.
Too late Mitt. You already talked about the economy in an empty stadium repeating the same Bush race to the bottom economics.......... in an empty stadium dude.
PEN - maybe what Romney is really saying is: Santorum, please come to my stadium to discuss this, so maybe someone will show up.
That was bad. The picture seemed worse every time I looked. I mean, so much of the field was open, the Lions could have held a full practice simultaneously.
Santorum said sure, no problem. Abortions kill jobs, we need to eliminate abortions to create jobs. Santorum then claimed contraception causes gas price increases. We need to stop contraception to lower gas prices. Santorum then claimed non-christians cause out of control government spending. We need to convert all Americans to Christianity to curtail government spending. Santorum then claimed education fuels the atheist movement which in turn fuels an entitlement society. We need to stop educating America.
Paul M in Wbridge
That's a guy that touting his business credentials. The photo ops is bad.
So far I've talked one other Dem into voting for Rick in the MI primary... In honor of Rob
Red Devil, too funny.
I heard Santorum say educated kids no longer believe my drivel too. The only way for religion to control people is to deny the people any education.
Why oh why would the republicans want to turn America in Iran? If you want to live in a church controlled state I suggest you move to Iran if religious freedom over the people's rights means so much to you.
Feisty---I think he also said the streets are right in Michigan, too---you know the streets that we all pay for with our tax dollars.
I know this is going to tick off a whole lot of Obama supporters, but today was the first time Rassmussen reported that Romney has the lead over Obama. Romney 45%, Obama 43%. Santorum is close to Obama, but hasn't taken the lead.
I haven't seen a single poll that shows any of the republicans leading Obama up until today. This may mean nothing, but if it becomes a trend on Rassmussen, trouble is brewing for the Obama candidate.
I only say that because Rassmussen has the highest presidential accuracy in it's polls. It's predicted the presidential winner for the last 7 presidential elections. Rassmussen only polls registered voters.
The facts -- Neither of these two candidates have credibility when it comes to economic policies. Both their plans and policies raise the debt by trillions.
Did they not read the WSJ articles on how their own plans scored? It wasn't good news. They add to the debt!
These candidates arguing over the economy is pretty damn funny.
By my count, the Romney's own around 8 cars between the mister and the missus. My questions to the Romney's:
1) Do you also have 8 dogs?
2) Where do you tie the dog up when the convertible top is down on the Mustang?
Brian....maybe faux news "forgot" to report the CNN poll that showed President Obama with a double digit lead over Romeny and Santorum......nothing like "fair and balanced".....
Paul - I wouldn't know anything about any "faux" news. I don't watch news channels on the television unless there's a national emergency or a weather emergency in our area. I don't trust any of them to report anything of value.
Just for the record, CNN polls everyone. It doesn't matter if that person votes or not... so the typical guy on the corner who isn't paying attention to politics would naturally say Obama is OK... he, of course, is the president... and those that are useless idiots don't know anything of what is going on in this arena. Registered voters are more likely to be paying attention and therefore more accurate.
Pissy-ikcy-Ricky Santorum claimed this weekend that there should be NO separation between church and state, and suggested like minded believers should spend their time puking all over the land of this great nation in protest. Were I to have faith in Santorum's claims, I would have expected to wake today to rivers of vomit flowing down the streets, the air filled with the stench of vile bile.
Oddly, I awoke today to the usual smells, and nary a single piece of vomit did layeth upon the pavement. It appears the only things that Americans cannot stomach is the claim we should be a nation run by religious theology.
Two weeks after the auto industry bailout funds were provided President Obama trying to explain millions of bailout dollars being spent on executive bonuses suggested it would have been prudent to have strings on the money. There were no strings on the money and the bonuses were paid to avoid threatened litigation based on the assertion the bonuses were legally contracted.
Bankrupsy would have provided strings. The most liberal minded lawyers in America were shaking their heads at that time because of the naivety of the Administration.
I believe Romney is simply getting to this reality, it's not like what he is saying is news.
You might be right. I can't find anything on CEO salary and bonus caps in the auto industry but plenty on Obama imposing CEO caps on banks receiving bailout money.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29003620/ns/business-us_business/t/obama-imposes-limits-executive-pay/#.T0vRe3kZ6VQ
Are you sure there were "no strings" on the salary and bonuses of CEOs in Detroit? Is it possible that there were no strings on bonuses that were "legally contracted" at the time, but that there are strings on bonuses in the future? Can you provide a link?
I think, also, that it might be a good idea to take into account not just the financial consequences of bailing out an industry but the psychological impact of the public hearing that a keystone of American leadership -- cars -- is "going bankrupt." OMG! It's easy to imagine a lot of doubtful investors who couldn't dump their investments fast enough.
I just read about Romney's business experience at Bain on wikipedia. I am starting to think he is getting to much credit for being such a creative thinking businessman, but more of a manager that had good people under him.
Always the voice of reason in a sea of insanity !... ;-)
"Business" experience does not translate into running the government. The Government is not a business. Wilson, The 2 Roosevelt's, and RR had no practical business experience. The point is we have destroyed our manufacturing base and pushed the innovators and inventors aside. Romney wants to focus on crunching numbers. That is the problem! You have only to look at the growth of the Financial Sector in the last 30 years; Under regulated number crunchers and paper pushers who are more interested in creating new predictive algorithms to manipulate markets and "create new financial products". Do we really want these sociopaths running the country?
Torpeo:"Business" experience does not translate into running the government
Apparently, neither does "Community Organizing".
The one word I don't ever want to hear in connection with his work at Bain Capital is "entrepreneur".
Willard was not an entrepreneur. That word implies that he was involved in business startups and that is not the case. What Bain Capital did was buy up and carve up other businesses...he bought ideas and didn't create anything.
Apparently, neither does "Community Organizing".
The American people thought otherwise and elected then Sen. Obama now the President Obama.
Malibu Mitts disconnect with GOP voters, written in a earlier thread today, starts with NOT holding an event in or around ANY church outside his Mormon Faith, 8 months ago in Iowa.How in the hell does he think he's gonna get the RightWingBibleThumpers to vote for him if he does'nt even acknowledge thier existence?
With that said, Malibu Mitts problems are Many, & now he wants Santorum to discuss Economic stuff withem to change the subject of the last 3 weeks, that has brought Santorums ideas, Front & Center, with the biggest voting block the GOP has.
I have no idea what Michigan Democrats have in store in tomorrows Primary, but it'd be absolutely Hilarious from where I sit, to see'm take Rushs advice from 2008 & turn it against the GOP, vote for Santorum & make the Republicans Establishment collective Heads explode to the Point of a Nuclur Option(per Chicken George Bush).
ManOMan, talk about being Comedy Central(Stewart & Colbert) & The Carnival Barkers(formerly known as the MSM), haveing, not fielddays, but fieldWEEKS, with that discussion would be:
PRICELESS!
Occupy SoggyBottom!
too bad people have such short emeories. Mittens looks alot like "Ross Perot lite". It was a bad idea then, and it still is.
The only way to appease the stuff shirts is to give them free gasoline for their Hummers, engage in war with Syria and Iran, and let the Detroit automobile business go out of business. Anything else weakens the starch in their collar.
The American people thought otherwise and elected then Sen. Obama now the President Obama.
Too bad they were wrong.
BTW that "Business Experience" seems to be working pretty well for Rick Snyder here in Michigan. He got a balanced budget submitted in 2011 well ahead of schedule and is slowly getting the state back on track.
No small feat after 8 years of the worst Governor this state has ever known in Jennifer Granholm.
.... and unemployment has never been below 8% since. Never will be under the community organizer.
.... and Wilson mismanaged the economy / managed class warfare to the extent we had to add the federal income tax .... and FDR mismanaged the economy so badly we never did get of the Great Depression / Recovery until WW II came along (thank Wilson for a big piece of that).
Reagan wasn't a businessman but he understood the most important things - individual freedom, liberty free markets and the potential of the American people.
Being required by law to balance a budget is nothing worth talking about.
Article V, Section 18 of the Michigan Constitution of 1963 states, "Proposed expenditures from any fund shall not exceed the estimated revenue thereof."
Sure Dennis, to bad the the Feds don't have the same requirement. Pretty sure they are required to submit one though and Harry reid can't even seem to do that.
So much easier to spend money when you don't have a budget, eh?
So maybe the Michiganders are smarter than the Feds in actually putting in the constitution that is stupid for us to spend more money than we take in?
What a novel idea.
Do you have any idea how Granholm ever managed to balance the budget??
I'll give you a hint, Stimulus and Tobacco.
@Phine Part of being a good "manager" is hiring good people to be on your team. What is hard to understand about that? What manager would surround themselves with people who did not do their job?
Bob
We the people are going to re-elect this former "Community Organizer" now President Obama.
Governance is about leadership, confronting the truth and this the president have shown all time and time again while your four GOP yahoo candidates keep clubbing each other on irrelevant issues.
Obama/Biden 2012
I wonder where that balanced budget would be if Mitt had gotten his way and let a million and a half jobs go away. Now that GM is hiring I wonder if that had anything with getting the state back on track?
Amazing after President Obama saves Michigan you think Rick Snyder should get the credit.
Just like Santorum fears the more educated of us will be voting for:
Obama/Biden 2012
Well, ksw----the team of people that Mitt has running his campaign has not been impressive. Witness their work in allowing their candidate to hold an event for 1200 people in a stadium that holds 65,000 and the visual that sent out to the world. Most of his other advisors, especially the military and economic advisors, are veterans of the Bush administration. Not a good record to run on there, either. Doesn't look like good management to me.
President Obama saved Michigan?
You. Have. Got. To. Be . Kidding.
Do you live here? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
Reagan knew nothing of the sort about important things. He did know was squelching free speech, raising taxes massively on the lower/middle classes, tax breaks for the wealthy, denying culpability in a little Iran-Contra scandal, ignoring the AIDS health crisis, and fooling Americans into thinking he single-handedly engineered the fall of the Berlin Wall. And then their is that 'trickle-down' fetish he invented.
Pen said: We the people are going to re-elect this former "Community Organizer" now President Obama.
Maybe YOU the people are going to attempt to re-elect that former "Community Organizer," but I'm not so sure about the republicans and the independents. It's a potential 2 to 1 disadvantage you aren't thinking about Pen.
@ Steeler my response was to Phine's statement about his work at Bain, not the current campaign.
Not sure what happened at his last event but we all know mainstream media is biased one way or another. Just look at the headline here on FR on Friday "Rubio's Morman Past Revealed". Lol Oh the scandal of it all.....
Maine elected a governor with "business experience" and he has been fighting with the legislature, which is controlled by his own party, ever since the inauguration. I've lost count how many aides he has had to replace, for one reason or the other. There is alot to be said for electing officials who have government experience.
Holy SH*T Bob lotsa numbers, talking about revisionist history...Just how stupid are you? The 16th amendment was introduced the administration of William Howard Taft! A REPUBLICAN!!!
We call that a Smackdown!!! You must have gone to the Joseph Goebbles school of history.
You sir are a waste of time!
Yes I do and yes he did. Aside from the freak show in the City of Detroit, Michigan is rebounding because of the automobile industry.
Leadership?
You got to be kidding ... the guy couldn't even garner one vote for his budget ..... FROM HIS OWN PARTY!
It is a fact that OBAMA IS THE MOST DIVISIVE PRESIDENT IN GALLUP HISTORY .... the very antithesis of leadership.
Wow, what is mentally wrong with you.
WCA,
Budgets do NOT control spending – spending authorization bills do.
Just like the Republican controlled House passed spending bill last December that totaled 1.3 trillion dollars more than projected receipts – Why ??
"Aside from the freak show in the City of Detroit, Michigan"
Doesn't matter who's in office, it will take years and years to fix Detroit.
Don't know how Obama saved GM/Chrysler though. GM's stock has to reach $53 a share to break even, so how I look at it, GM is getting a free ride on my dime. Don't understand how a bonus can be handed out when you owe the tax payer money?
WCA -- All governor's must submit a balanced budget. Snyder balanced that budget by RAISING TAXES.
You must agree it is okay to raise taxes to bring in revenues to balance budgets.
Gee, Paul, can anyone from your party keep your message straight? I thought you hated spending a dime on unemployment, now you are complaining that your dime was spent to keep people employed.
Uh oh, The dreaded "T" word. Raising revenues to bring Michigan's Budget in line with expenditures? Shocking! Shocking I say!
... and paying taxes and purchasing goods that keep others employed. Who would of thunk it!
Torpedo
Sorry sloppy sentence.
The point was meant to relate that he needed the new taxes to cover his mismanagement and lost revenues.
But I have to admit, my real loathing of Wilson wasn't his economics, it was progressive elitism.
The man who said ...
A man, a narcissist who had no regard for the Constitution (want quotes) or the American people (want more quotes).
Bain Capital refused to provide any loan money to GM and Chrysler in 2008 when they needed Romney's famous 'managed bankruptcy' based on private sector funding. So now he yells about the President providing the money Romney and his boys' club at Bain wouldn't. I wish I could say I was surprised by his hypocrisy.
A new report from Bloomberg shows that most of the jobs that Mitt Romney takes credit for creating while head of Bain Capital are low wage jobs that do not pay enough to lift full-time employees above the poverty line for a family of three. The retail jobs at Staples and Sports Authority pay less than $9 per hour on average.
Dennis, do you happen to have a study on all the "High Paying" jobs that the Obama administration is responsible for ( at least according to the posters here?)
Nanvy Pelosi seems to think that Unemployment stimuletes the economy. Tell me Dennis, does the amount one recieves from unemployment push them above the poverty level?
Of course, not paying unemployement benefits would stimulate the economy as well. Think of the undertakers and prison guards that would have work, because people with no hope will turn to crime or die of starvation. Compassionate Conservatism at its finest...
Strom, that was not my point.
Please define how Unemployment Benefits Stimulate the economy when Dennis de-rides $9/ hour jobs?
A 40 hour work week means $360/week @ $9/hr. Which is reamrkably close to what a weeks worth of unemployment is here in Michigan.
Which is it? Are $9/ hr jobs a bad thing? Especially for people with little or no training in anything?
WAC, to your point which you underlined, how can Mitt tout job creation that makes jobs that don't pay as much as unemployment benefits? Neither will expand an economy, and will not enable anyone to get ahead. They are a stop-gap measure. Unemployment benefits (and jobs at Staples) don't stimulate the economy but they keep it and peoples lives from getting worse.
Storm, re-read what you just typed.
Are unemployment benefits a stop-gap measure?
Do $9/hr jobs keep peoples lives from getting worse?
You guys always want to play both sides here and it's frustrating.
Is there nothing to be gained by a $9/hr job? No self-esteem in going to work every day. Perhaps a chance to better yourself through sustained effort and performance?
A $9/hr job should never be looked at as the end of the road, but the beginning of an opportunity.
Well when you're hoping that those companies are forced to sell off their assets at pennies on the dollar...
White collar auto, one of the ways unemployment stimulates the economy is the people drawing unemployment don't make enough to save anything, they must spend the money on bills, furniture, gas, and everything else that they need. Millions of unemployment checks is re-circulated throughout the economy in every state. you're thinking how can one check do anything, but it's not one, it's millions. You seem to have a closed mind so telling you how probably won't mean a thing to you.
Sure topane, paying electric bills and buying barely enough groceries to feed your family stimulates the economy.
You guys are a real hoot.
BTW, where does that money come from?
Oh yeah, out of taxpayers pockets, who could buy things with it.
Paying those bills keep other people employed.
so WCA, you think we should let these people starve? No, you think they should all work $9/hr jobs, which is poverty level. Excuse me, but self-esteem doesn't put groceries on the table. I don't want it both ways, but apparently you do. You claim that $9/hr jobs are REAL growth, but you think that paying unemployment benefits do no help to the economy. Which is it? It is almost the same amount of money. It comes out of taxpayers pockets? Yes, and people getting unemployment benefits pay taxes too. How much more would you have to spend if there were no unemployment benefits? I don't have any solid numbers, but divided out evenly it looks like you would recoup a total of $101/year. Woohoo. Go out and stimulate the economy with that while whole neighborhoods go into foreclosure. Same with Mitt's "job plan".
White collar auto, when one person is spending their unemployment check it adds up to nothing, add in one million more at just say $500 per month, that's 1/2 billion per month going back into the economy, also these people worked for the money, it is not their fault they are unemployed. You sound just like a republican, they cause people to lose their jobs, and then talk about them and anybody that tries to help them. White collar, can't you see what republicans are doing to women and everybody else in every state where they hold the majority, since I doubt that you're rich, should republicans win, sooner or later they will get around to you.
Topane, you don't seem to understand that the money is being taken out of the economy, first?
It's a zero sum game.
Then you go off on the Dem talking points about women and if you don't think the Democrats will be coming after you soon, you aren't paying attention.
Storm, please point to where I said low paying jobs are REAL growth?
Yeah, most of the people I know would rather have a low paying job equal to unemployment rates than live off the government.
Guess we hang out in different circles.
We do. Most of the people I know are smart enough not to take a job that pays less than unemployment when it cost money to work. The car maintenence, gas, parking, etc., is too high a price when you are barely making minimum wage. Add to that the missed opportunity cost of not being able to attend classes to better yourself or learn a pertinent skill, the inability to get healthcare (because that $9/hr job isn't going to have bennies), added cost for daycare if you have kids, and many more things. The cost of a $9/hr job outweigh the benefits. If you are middle-aged and have a family, mortgage, car payment, it means something has gone horribly wrong. It is better than nothing, but for how long?
I would prefer no hope to false hope.
White collar auto, let me put this in a way that you can understand my meaning. Unemployment is not a government handout, these people worked hard for years and this money was put aside for them when they need it, and they need it now. It cost the federal government 150 billion dollars per year for welfare for the rich, it's called government subsidies, and you bitch about a few hundred million going to the people that need it, but say nothing about the people that get so much that clearly don't need it at all. The people on unemployment put all of their money back into the economy, the rich put their money in off-shore banks. President Obama is right when he says the economy will get stronger when the poor and middle class have jobs and money to spend. What the president is doing must be working because the economy is getting stronger, but that doesn't matter because you and the other republicans, elected and voters will just invent something and blame him.
White collar, I mis-wrote, instead of hundred million it's more like 50 million going for unemployment
"Business" experience does not translate into running the government. The Government is not a business. Wilson, The 2 Roosevelt's,
That's the number 1 criteria to win the RWNJs over.
"Romulian Romney," and "Sanittarium Santorum" have NO clue of what a "Fair" Economy looks like. "Satan Santorum" is too busy culturally and socially bashing America. He is a Right Wing Religious Radical that has NO economic plan of his own. "Sanitarium Santorum" has big "Mentally Disturbing" plans too destroy Women's Rights, and the Religious Rights of all Americans. He wants to "Dictate" to all women how to live their sexual lives, and cutting off all options for women. Both of these GOP/RNC Clowns want NO Government in the economy at all however, they want Government involved in the personal lives of others. "Double Standard" here America?? "Satan Santorum" is NOT Presidential at all, and his intolerance for others is proof of this. "Romulian Romney" has NO clue of how 99% of Americans are doing economically in America. Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! The Party Of NO has got to GO!!
the only job romney knows how to create is the one he has! romney and our govenor of michigan are two peas in a pod, they buy companies, lay off everyone sell all assets to communist china, rob the pennsion plan leaving us, the tax payers, to clean up!
Hey KR, you got any facts to back up those stements?
You know how the Libs here are always screaming for the facts.
Tell me, do you think Granholm was a good Governor?
I didn't like Granholm much, but I liked Engler even less...
One of the reasons why I left Michigan is Granholm. I think WCA is that people got used to what it is in Detroit and change is bad to them. Look at their school system and the people they elected, Kwame is a perfect example. Don't know how Snyder is doing, but if it pisses off Liberals, then he must be doing something right.
you moved because of a governor? damn, you're easy...
Well, I suppose Santorum could ask Romney if he wanted to talk about the best way to travel with your pet. (oops, did I just say that)
In a cage , on the car roof sounds pretty cool ....
Better than loose , in the back of a pick up ....
: )
Big Ben I suggest you water yourself down, throw yourself in cage on the top of a traveling car for 12 hours and then get back to me on how cool it is.
Get real ....
How does the circus ship their animals .... ??
How do they stack pets in cargo bins on airplanes .... ??
Have you ever seen a pet cargo bin .... ??
Big Ben,
I hate seeing dogs loose in the back of a pick up. It so very dangerous for them. (I don't like them on the top of the station wagon roof, either!)
Hey phine ....
I miss seeing you ....
You must be busy lately ...
I have been busy. Birthday season around here. Have three coming up in a two week period. Still, I read what everyone posts - even if I don't comment on it!
Then "Happy Birthday" to all ....
And many , many , many more ....
You can count on Romney treating the people of American as good as he treats his dog.
Like Obama making people dependent on their monthly "BONE" or "FOOD STAMPS"
Romney's dog was treated like a family member and had a good long life...
By contrast, Obama's economic record stinks , worse than the diarreah which Romney's dog put on the roof of the Romney car in 1983...
Obama's economy and debt is giving us all diarrhea ....
Still looking for any specifics on landslide Willard's plan to reduce taxes ($4 trillion) and reduce the budget deficit while increasing defense spending and cutting social programs.
My diligent web search has produced nothing.
I guess that is better than finding and seeing Obama's 1million dollar addition to our debt every 30 seconds ....
Look for the invisible ink....that's where the plan is....
While you are seraching the web, do us a favor and try to locate any Obama plan to implement his rock solid promise to cut the deficit in half....or put unemployment under 8%...or rein in out of control entitlement spending...oops, Obama is voting "present"
I guess it's too easy to just raise our debt ....
Recent 800 billion dollar job stimulus .... "LOL"
Bob
You appear to be knowledgeable. Can you direct me to any source where Romney has disclosed specifics to his economic plan?
ROMPNEY to SANITARIUM lets talk OUR ECONOMY !!! That's what the headline should read.
These JOKERS are out to HELP THEMSELVES when voted in. Who honestly thinks they are MISTER FIX IT ALL.
FOR ALL AMERICANS ? BULLSH-T !! MY GOD ! More DECEIT DEVIL IDEOLOGY! MORE BRAINWASHING !!
This is the PARTY OF NO, DO NOTHING, GO BACKWARDS, PROTECT OUR OWN, PROTECT OR POCKETS, ETC:ETC:
THEY create LAWS to protect only their WELL BEING !!! They want to dismantle laws and de-regulate so that the HOUSE can continue to syphon YOUR TAX DOLLARS LEGALLY by stealing. Hence the de-regulating and abolishing certain laws that do not HELP THEM !
IT IS DONE FOR THEM! NOT YOU OR I THE AVERAGE CITIZEN !
Wow! The moronic conservemyidiocy lunitics are crying a river on this site today. That is so lmfao. When will these morons actually put a plan out there that can fix this mess they got us into? Never! That is what i thaught, the conservative morons are the same as always, spend more, tax more, spend more, tax more, spend more, tax more, on and on and on and on----------- wah, blah blah, wah, wah, wah-------------------------- Cry me a river come nov. gents and ladies of the retardlicant persuasion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If given a choice do you think people would stop being stupid? Ohhh, geez, sorry, that's a dumb question. That would go against the very meaning of stupidity? Wouldn't it now?
If you are going to vote for Romney you might as well vote for BHO. He is an elitist who is out of touch with anything resembling the mainstream. Remember Obamacare--where do you think they got the model? He says he will repeal Obamacare--anyone buying. He raised taxes in MA and he'll raise our taxes without making any attempt to reign in spending. Go ahead--vote for Obama Jr.
when will obama and the dems do their constitutional duty and pass a budget oh thats right they dont want americans to know what they are spending people are sick of it do your job cut cap and balance throw grandma off the cliff dems want grama to die and die slowly
Budgets do not control spending - spending bills do and all of Congress and the Administration know what is in the spending bills.
Here is a great article that makes things pretty clear.
Failed Highway Bill Shows Just How Fanatical the GOP Has Become
By Scott Lilly | U.S.News & World Report LP -2/27/2012
Like most people who live in Washington, I hear frequently from people outside "the beltway" perplexed by the performance of government and the tone of our political dialogue. They don't understand the acrimony and downright nastiness they see exhibited by our elected representatives on television night after night. I don't entirely understand it myself, but a big part of it is that the nation is much more ideologically divided and as a result, so is the Congress. Specifically, over the past two decades, we have seen the emergence of an extreme right wing movement in this country that had little or no presence in this country 40 or 50 years ago.
How can I say that? Let's look at the highway bill now pending in the House of Representatives. House Speaker John Boehner virtually twisted himself into the shape of a pretzel trying to put together enough votes to bring the legislation to the floor. Just before the House left for the Presidents' Day recess he announced that there was still more work to do and that he would try to bring it to the floor in the week after the House returns to session, but before members could return to Washington he finally conceded that the bill was dead. The legislation Boehner was trying to pass was a five-year extension of the current program, but it cut funding for maintaining our roads and bridges by more than 17 percent.
While some Republicans see those cuts as being too deep, Boehner's biggest problem according to Hill insiders and most press accounts, is the large bloc within his party that thinks the cuts are not deep enough.
We are not talking social welfare here. This is not about money for the undeserving poor or protecting endangered wildlife. This is concrete and asphalt used to fix pot holes, repair bridges, widen roads and help the nation's 190 million motorists to get where they are going and perhaps get there with a little less wear and tear. This is a program that is about as Republican as you could imagine.
In 1954 President Dwight Eisenhower called on Congress to "protect the vital interest of every citizen in a safe and adequate highway system." Two years later that landmark legislation was passed providing $25 billion (5 percent of GDP in 1956) for a 41,000 mile network of four-lane, divided and limited access highways. That measure passed the Senate without a single dissenting Republican vote, and it passed the House with merely a voice vote.
The impact that legislation had on the country was monumental. A 50-year review of the economic impacts conducted in 2006 by the Bush administration found that it had lowered production and distribution costs in virtually every industrial sector. On average, U.S. industries realized production and distribution cost savings averaging 24 cents annually for each dollar invested in the non-local road system. In other words, a dollar spent in 1956 would have over 50 years returned 12 dollars to the economy by tying assembly plants closer to their suppliers, reducing the time and cost of getting products to markets and generally increasing the competitiveness and productivity of the American economy.
But it now seems like we have become the heirs to a family that once held a great fortune but can no longer afford to maintain the family mansion much less expand or update it. What is frustrating is that we are not a poor nation. There is only one reason we can't pass a better country on to our children and grandchildren. That is because our political system has been broken down by those who no longer believe in the legacy of men like Dwight Eisenhower, who refuse to recognize that the public sector has always played a significant role in the growth of jobs and opportunity.
The current skirmish over the highway legislation is only one of many battles that will rage in Washington this year, but because of the long history on bipartisan cooperation on this area of public policy it tells us more than the others about the kind of problem we face. Broad public understanding of that problem provides the only serious prospect that it can be fixed.
still no excuse for not passing a budget cut spending cap spending band balance the budget dems continue to want to spend money we dont have people are sick of it
The Republican controlled House passed spending bills last Dec that were 1.3 trillion dollars greater than expected revenues.
Our President offered a 4 trillion dollar reduction plan and Boehner walked away.
There is another way to ease the deficit problem, when you come right down to it. Cutting spending -- which a lot of people are demanding -- helps, but we can also start closing loopholes in the tax structure and raising taxes on those who can afford it.
We often hear cries about how a household that's spending more than it's taking in must absolutely cut back on its spending. But argument by analogy only takes you so far. ("Time is like a river and since you can travel against the current in a river you can travel into the future.")
A national economy is not much like a normal household with two job holders and two kids in school. It's more like a household with a drug-addicted high school dropout in the basement, a sick baby in the nursery, and a millionaire uncle who lives in the attic and contributes nothing to paying the household's bills.
There is one unshakable fact. The rich have been getting richer for the past 30 years -- or since deregulation began, if you want to think of it that way -- while the remaining 80% of us are stuck in the same income range.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/05/us-inequality-infographic_n_845042.html#s261411&title=Wage_Inequality&zoom=huge
The top marginal tax rate, at 35%, hasn't been this low in generations. (Under Ike, in the prosperous 50s, it was more than 90% and the rich managed to remain rich.) Not that anyone actually paid that much. Leona Helmsley the Hotel Queen said, "Only the little people pay taxes," before she went to jail.
We can call it a "spending problem" if we like, and it's accurate. The spending problem exists partly because we also have a monstrous "revenue problem."
How about a kick in the pants for that millionaire in the attic?
the republicans passed a budget obamas budget was such a joke not even the dems voted for it 97-0 repubs budget was bi partisan
The 97-0 vote was planned by the Dems. Republican wanted to get Dem Senators on record voting for a budget that increased spending to use it against them in the next election cycle – it didn’t work !!
Obama's budget plan is to never look at our rising debt ....
Romney's has a plan to cut tax rates for all Americans by 20 percent. How can you cut 50% of the Americans who pay no tax?
Bain! Hahahaha! You mean where he and his boys come in and take over your company, borrow gigantic sums of money against that companys assets, etc, Pay themselves hundreds of millions of dollars from this borrowed money(because they definately deserve it!?!). Oh yea, and when the company goes bankrupt a couple years later as a direct result of this they have no accountability. They get sued all the time but never get convicted because it's almost impossible to prove. So they just pay a fine to the SEC that is always less than the amount they stole, errr...i mean "earned".
OPEN YOUR EYES
What the hell do either of these corporate puppets know about the economy? All we, the American People of the United States, see is two Republican corporate puppets scrambling to help their corporate lobbyists!
It took 8 years for the Republicans to destroy our economy with corporate corruption! Now these two birds are gonna solve the economic problems their fellow Republican corporates caused in the first place! Where were they when the American People needed them? Padding their pockets, now they want back in to do the same thing all over again!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE AND YOU TWO AND THE REST OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE NOT PART OF IT! YOU ARE THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE! So take your coloring books and crayons and go home! We, the American People, don't want you and definitely don't need you!
It all comes down to a choice between the The Vulture Capitalist and the K Street Lobbyist. Bon Appetit crazies!
socialism is a great idea until you run out of other peoples money pennies dont fall from heaven they have to be earned down here on earth keep building bridges for turtles and let the people bridges collapse dems want more money to be spent obama said bush was unpatriotic for spending 4trillion in eight years what a laugh ha ha cant hide from obamas budget busting proposals cant wait whoever the nominee is lots of ammo dems budget is spend spend spend tax tax tax
Woundn'rt it have been nice if the had filled that staduim inDeriot and Santorum and Romney had a real debate on the econ9my.
It would be fun to hear Romney get beyond is 59 points and tie thing together. And hear Santoru why heopposes Right to work laws, but endorses not indexing minimum wages to infflation which Romney supports.
It woud be fine to her them expalinwhy the should overriede the farmers of Nebraska who are concerned about the Keystone pipleine ruing their water supply form the aqufer below. How canthey know more thanfarmers so? We've yet to hear anexpalianation there.
Particulaly when in Pennsylvania,Santorum's home stste so many problems have emerged.
Can they debate actuallyissues? you have to be kidding!