VIDEO: Deep Dive: Breaking down the electoral map

NBC's Chuck Todd and Mark Murray break down the state of play in the 2012 election and note how the electoral map has moved more toward President Obama, as Republicans continue their hotly contested primaries.

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Yep there are several ways for Obama to get the votes he needs, one way would be to have Black Church Leaders tell their Congregation to get the vote out. Talk about playing the race card and oh wait, isn't it illegal for Church's to endorse anyone???

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Reply#1 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:29 AM EST

jfk, are you a troll or just a racist?

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#1.1 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:38 AM EST

JFK,

Shouldn't all of us encourage others to vote?

GOTV should be encouraged by all people in leadership positions.

Churches don't tell their membership who to vote for but many do indicate who they support. Cincinnati is home for a very large Christian organization. They often hold seminars for Conservative politicians and any want-a-be. Does that violate the rule of law – should it? Why, why not ??

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#1.2 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:41 AM EST

Yep there are several ways for Obama to get the votes he needs, one way would be to have Black Church Leaders tell their Congregation to get the vote out. Talk about playing the race card and oh wait, isn't it illegal for Church's to endorse anyone???

You do realize that Republicans tend to be more religious then Democrats? Playing the race card? Not really sure what you are getting at other then hidden racism.

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#1.3 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:45 AM EST

Gee, J...

Do you think Mittens is going to try to mobilize the Mormon church? Oh! Wait! Would YOU try to prevent that because it is illegal?

Hypocritic troll!

D'ya think it is also racist for states like Indiana, Penn. and others to try to pass contentions to keep an African American off the ballot?

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#1.4 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:57 AM EST

So stupid, you think it would be ok for either Romney or Santorum to go to White Church Leaders and do the same. Oh wait, there's no such group, because it would be considered racist.

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#1.5 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:09 AM EST

you think it would be ok for either Romney or Santorum to go to White Church Leaders

FLASH for you genius....

it has already been done!

Surely you are not promoting that tired, typical, old Republican double standard again are you?

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#1.6 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:31 AM EST

Really??? And you can back this up with credible sources???

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#1.7 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:36 AM EST

Yes.

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#1.8 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:22 PM EST
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Man oh man, it's only the end of February and the RWNJ's are imploding right before our very eyes! lol

Maybe if the GNOP had selected a candidate who isn't certifiably insane, things wouldn't be slipping away from ya all!

You are going to have to find something other then 'gas is $5.00 a gallon' argument!

Because there is a treasure chest of sound bites the GNOP has so graciously given the Democrats this year to prove how nuts the once Grand Old Party has become!

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Reply#2 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:32 AM EST

4 years ago there was the gnashing and grinding of teeth in the democrat party as hillary and barry traded jabs and insults during the nomination process. hillary did not quit until June.

now we aren't even out of February and we see same democrats talking about the imploding of the republican party.

interesting what a difference 4 years makes.

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#2.1 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:11 PM EST

To compare 4 years ago- where both Democratic candidates were liked and the vitriol was for which was liked and most credible to be the Democratic Presidential candidate- to today's Republican candidates- where none of them are liked enough to the point that they're looking to the outside for a worthy candidate to run against the incumbent- is erroneous at best and ludicrous at worst.

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#2.2 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:27 PM EST

likability is not one of my criteria for a President. Capability is; and while the President has shown us he is incapable of leading our country he remains likable to many. The Hopey Changey feel-good stuff has proven to be an abject failure.

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#2.3 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:32 PM EST

As has been said in the past- how's Osama Bin Laden , Al Alwaki and the 28 of 30 something operatives in the terrorist community , or health insurance companies, and Wall Streeters feeling today about that touchy feely thing there?

Oops, almost forgot about the American auto industry and their subcontractors. I guess a failure to act was very comfortable for some in the previous 8 years.

    #2.4 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:44 PM EST

    good job davenj in cherry-picking.

    back to work, have a nice day.

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    #2.5 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:49 PM EST

    Back to Fox Noise for you, I guess?

    I really didn't want to add the end of the Iraq disaster or the upcoming end to Afghanistan that's already started. But you knew those two, and TARP- where the real money went- as well.

    Many were just happy about the end of the fear mongering in 2008, too.

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    #2.6 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:55 PM EST
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    "I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute, where no Catholic prelate would tell the president (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote; where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference; and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the president who might appoint him or the people who might elect him.

    I believe in an America that is officially neither Catholic, Protestant nor Jewish; where no public official either requests or accepts instructions on public policy from the Pope, the National Council of Churches or any other ecclesiastical source; where no religious body seeks to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populace or the public acts of its officials; and where religious liberty is so indivisible that an act against one church is treated as an act against all.

    For while this year it may be a Catholic against whom the finger of suspicion is pointed, in other years it has been, and may someday be again, a Jew— or a Quaker or a Unitarian or a Baptist. It was Virginia’s harassment of Baptist preachers, for example, that helped lead to Jefferson’s statute of religious freedom. Today I may be the victim, but tomorrow it may be you — until the whole fabric of our harmonious society is ripped at a time of great national peril."

    John Fitzgerald Kennedy...

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    Reply#3 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:40 AM EST

    Wonder if JFK is somewhere in the great beyond shaking his head and thinking where did the American people and dream go wrong?

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    #3.1 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:49 AM EST

    President Kennedy put this so eloquently, and it is heartening to see people posting this several times and discussing it on all media.

    So it makes you want to throw up? Please take your barf bag into a corner and stay there.

      #3.2 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:27 AM EST
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      Churches don't have to endorse anyone to work with get-out-the-vote drives. Sometimes doing good means giving everyone an opportunity to vote for the candidate of their choice.

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      Reply#4 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:43 AM EST

      .

        Reply#5 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:08 AM EST

        Again- The Party of No does not have a viable, electable candidate running for President, and none of the touted 'late arrivals' who the party are looking to in a brokered convention would be viable or electable either. That's all that one needs to know.

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        Reply#6 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:46 AM EST

        and with the experiment we have had with the current President it is clear what a non-viable candidate can destroy if elected

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        #6.1 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:24 PM EST

        Look to the top of this page to see how your sentiment is working for you. Hint... not well!

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        #6.2 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:37 PM EST

        Dave, if you have Obama propaganda network MSNBC as your sole news source, all is peaches and cream for Obama, all the time...

        Back in the real world, Rasmussen has both Romney and Ron Paul beating Obama today, even though the GOP infighting has taken its toll..wait till a candidate is selected, then they will focus in and beat Obama badly...

          #6.3 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:01 PM EST
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          This year the shameful acts of the restupidcants will tell on election day! I for one, am ashamed of my state! I am from the great state of Iowa, however, i just saw a poll where Iowa is leaning towards the retardlicants. The retardlicants???? Please Iowa, say it aint so? Please dont embarass us in front of the nation, or the world either. We have but one way to vote come nov. and you know what it is!!! Vote for the President. Please wake up before its too late, we can still be a pretty blue state again!!!!

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          Reply#7 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:28 PM EST

          Let every state south of the Mason-Dixon Line be Republican in their own new backwards country.In the rest of the normal United States of America we abolish Republican-ism for being anti-American,anti-human,anti-progress,anti-science and anti-rights.

            Reply#8 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:31 PM EST

            The football analogy is used in this report...clearly, MSNBC has the pom poms out, cheerleading for Team Obama...

            Fact is, Virginia and North Carolina are going to be extremely tough for Obama to win... and therefore the claims about Obama being able to lose Florida and Ohio and still win the election, are worthless..

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            Reply#9 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:56 PM EST

            Yes too bad for big O that the election is not today and overseen by NBC personal:( But we have a ways to go and this map is very fluid.

            Big oil is going to keep the squeeze on Obama from now till the election. THis will remind your average Americans of their folly in electing him in 08 and the costs associated with poor decisions. Senior are starting to become engaged as they realize they are facing a 185% medicare part A and B premium increase under Obamacare by 2014. Seniors vote.

              Reply#10 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:00 PM EST
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