Yes, and now Crazy Horse Sheriff Joe ischecking out O'Barma's birth certificate. Is the State of Arizona paying for that Jan Baby?

Realhope - run your paragraph though a spell checker. I guess you are one of the people who feels that education is a very bad thing. Busch? That's really funny. My spell checker gave you 10 red lines.

LOL...Busch...I heard they were coming out with a jerky flavored malt liquor...maybe Realhope's been taste testing...

To..Realhope"""

When have the barking banchees of the right ever not been hateful

The democrats are standing up because of of the far right and ...you call it hateful...I call it about time

They become hateful every time their deficit spending gets threatened. When people stop confusing equal opportunity with equal outcome..... regardless of effort.

Which rules are we going to play by - everybody works hard and pays their own way - or, nobody gets to benefit from disproportionate effort, risk, deferred gratification, etc? Get rid of the lobby's and stop letting people who don't pay taxes (dependents) vote what to do with the taxes others pay. You can't let the people vote themselves money and you can't let the wealthy throw money at the politicians. A child can understand the futility of these.

Nobody is going to get off deficit spending until they are "cut" off. Much like a junkie, they will lie, cheat, steal or whatever to keep their money drug going. This is why you see the hate. They either sell their votes to get back more than they put in or "invest" in politicians for a higher return on investment.

Same with the GOP war mongers. As soon as they have to stop invading countries with undeclared unfunded wars they get all full of hate too. Neither side will give up their money drug. They are determined to ruin the credit and destroy the currency before they change.

Unfortunately both sides are looking more and more like the North and South in the early 1860's. The division is massive and both sides look at an election loss as financial enslavement. The winner gets all their selfish programs and controls the deficit for their own enjoyment..... the other side pays for it all. This is of course only until the creditors cut us off which is coming soon.

Nobody wants to invest in a country that runs a deficit then can't get out of it. It is a controlled crash.

Actually Ducky I don't remember that. I do remember thinking you Newsvine liberals would have a field day with a beauty contest participant and all that implies to folks like you.

The finger wagging thing was really funny. I wonder if Obama knew who she was. She kind of looks like Gingrich's wife.

LOL!!

Yep, that is the sort of thing I would expect out of Obama and his lackeys.

I agree that this is a bad comment but you can't help but think she might have a drinking problem and it's unlikely that she has ever gotten a call from Playboy Magazine. Is there a skanky blonde magazine? If so, I'm sure they would be after her and Gingrich's wfe too.

Yep, that is the sort of thing I would expect out of Obama and his lackeys.

I would think twice if I was a liberal and started talking about peoples looks. Nancy P Hillary your president wife.

I mean really. The reason she can tell this president off is because she is correct. He deserves NO respect. I dare say the Secret service doe's not care either.

No one in any authority can respect this guy. Its pointless.

Yep, no respect. Just like Rick and ruk deserve no respect. They are pointless.

To..frankbrown.."""

why do cons make stuff up...is it on purpose or is it genetic

your post is so devoid of content where does one begin to respond? I imagine you are po at the deficit but fail to realize the war was OFF BuDGET during the Bush years and Obama added it on-. What impact did the Great Recession have on revenues and what Obama caused the economic meltdown by running for office?

Facts are needed- not conjecture or what you wish were facts

rukidding??? No, seriously, are you??? Don't feel sorry for us liberals, feel sorry for those clown candidates ya'all got runnin ....now THAT'S who needs a little pitying!

OBAMA 2012

1. No body hates George Bush. People are disgusted that

(a.) George Bush didn’t read or act on the threats assessments that caused 911.

(b) George Bush allowed our markets to fail three times doing his term and you the right’s idiotic buffoon want my President to clean it up over night!

©George Bush allowed The Banks to consolidate doing his term and act like the Wild West with no check and balances. The Buffoon’s want this President to clean it up!

(d) George Bush and his side kick “Dick let me screw America Cheney” allowed, helped, lie and started not one war, but two while they drained full coffins of money left from ‘The great President Clinton”.

€ George Bush and Cheney spent about four million dollars a day for eight years with NO ONE CLAPPING THEIR HANDS and what do you expect now!

(f)George Bush and friends then added insults to our country injury decided to give all billionaires a tax break!

My question to you is “Where were you”!

2. Where were you when China surpassed America in manufacturing jobs in 2006 and the big corporations took America for granted and put our workers out of jobs!

a. Where were you or The Bush Administration in 2008 when millions were losing their homes and jobs and no one reacted or tried to help?

b. Where have you been when our health care tripled from 2001 to 2008 and the nursing homes have been taking grandma‘s and granddad’s house.

3. THE UNITED STATES HAD A SURPLUS OF 230 billion dollars in 2000 when President Clinton left and was on a track to gain as much as a trillion dollars in surplus in 10 years.

4. Where were you when President Obama eradicated more than 90% of our enemies left on the books claiming victory over America when Dick Cheney rode his wheel chair out the White House!

You explain;

How can you support a group of Republicans that have made a good salary, well over a hundred thousand dollars a year, full health care privileges, private perks (golfing private plane rides, paid vacations), full retirement where they don’t have to never work and didn’t lift a finger to steer us out this mess that was left from the Bush Administration for three years and was sleep when thing was crashing around us. You look bad and Jan Brewer is a joke. Ask why Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr. didn’t close the border after they gave millions of illegals amnesty in 1986.

The angry people are the people who helped or caused the problem and now are left with attacks of diarrhea at the mouth with no solution! Next time you and Cheney cross the street together, Tell somebody, you haven't seem Bid Laden lately and we are working on getting our soldiers and jobs back home.

Celeste - why do you want to spread those lies?

I need a paxil

your post is so devoid of content where does one begin to respond?
Facts are needed- not conjecture or what you wish were facts

Celeste-3346420

Our friend said it so well that I thought it best I copied and pasted his post so you could understand what is the matter with yours.

If I wanted to read half truths I would wait for your guys book to come out. A simple we lie to ourselves would have sufficed. Not lines of BS.

To..ruki"""

No that be nixon/ford ..gw and can't forget hoover...

To..Rick""

What lies...

LOL!!

She resembles that remark!

bobs ur uncle

That is really original. I wish I had thought of that.

I need a paxil

Facts are needed- not conjecture or what you wish were facts

For those of you who claim you want to know here it is. For the rest of who have your noses so far Obama's hiney you will never see daylight again - don't bother and we will know exactly who the hypocrites are:

check these links if you want to know who caused what:

http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/subprime.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4A0RuXhnQA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZ9l_AxKjA&feature=related

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/interviews/born.html

And the one that goes into how Frank/Dodd will probably get us into even more trouble:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/businessdesk/2011/07/joseph-stiglitz-barney-frank-r.html

And I almost forgot what Clinton handed to Bush before he left:

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/24/the-dot-com-bubble-how-to-lose-5-trillion/

You need a therapist, some archive newspapers and clips from 2000 to 2008. Then maybe your vote can count positively if you can vote! Like Rush Limbaugh, he makes over 4 million a year and stir up trouble and he can’t vote! His taste for the right color fuels his hatred. In time President Obama will go down in history as the best President the world has ever seen. He managed crises here and abroad while the Republicans said NO to making our lives in America better! That's what you are about! Vote with your brain and not your skin color!

Rick is an Angry White Troll...! (Anger is stress. Stress kills.)

Rick has stress.

Obama/Biden win again in 2012! No doubt!!

The links I posted include video clips of the participants themselves, articles from universities, a couple from PBS which most consider liberal and even one from Anderson Cooper of CNN.

As this is the most egregious lie of all:

THE UNITED STATES HAD A SURPLUS OF 230 billion dollars in 2000 when President Clinton left and was on a track to gain as much as a trillion dollars in surplus in 10 years.

The US had a National Debt of 5.3 trillion dollars when George W. Bush took office. That is a matter of public record. And Clinton handed off a failed dot com bubble that took 5 trillion out of the economy. It is not my fault that you are too ignorant or too chauvinistic to accept the fact that dems played a major part in the recession. If you checked out that second to last link you will realize that Dodd/Frank left our financial sector (Fannie and Freddie) in pretty much vulnerable to the same conditions with the possibility they could drag down the economy again. You people really, really need to get your collective heads out of your arse.

And since I forgot to address your statement about 9/11. It was Jamie Gorelick that issued an executive order preventing the CIA from sharing information with the FBI that allowed the issue of Arab Muslins taking flying lessons with out learning how to land or take off way back in 1998. It that name sounds familiar, she was also at Fannie Mae when they blew up.

celeste

Obamma in history as a great President? Step away from the pipe.

Only from the same fools that gave him a Nobel prize for being black.

You Crack me up

You act as if President Obama started all of this! You people really, hum? Your fluids are running out the wrong part of your body! When 911 hit, everything Collapsed! At the end of the day, the problems need to be fixed.

Passing Blame! It is funny how somebody from The Bush Administration knew immediately that it was Bid Laden who hit us! You need to check the archives and how these foreign Presidents from other countries had warned us that someone was preparing something that dealt with planes and no one reacted? You can stretch this matter all you want, the cleanup man is this President and by the way He can read! The failure wasn't just one person or one thing!You get technical, and then you need to address the first gulf war, the Soviet/ Afghan war and why America was giving guns to everybody in that region, cause that’s what started the mess! You sleep with dogs, you wake up with fleas.

You need to be the first person to thank him for at least trying to get us back on track! Have you crossed the street yet?

The other joke is that those four stooges running on the Republican side can’t put them all together and get a clear thought! Cross the street with them!

Celeste-3346420

You need to go back and address the lies that you posted. How about telling us some more about Clinton"s surplus or how Bush caused the housing bubble or the bloated and unregulated derivatives market. All three of those contributed greatly to the recession yet you blame those solely on Bush and the republicans even though I provided you links to the real causes.

BTW, nobody has accused Obama of "starting all of this" but his constant blaming of everyone but those that are responsible sure as hell is not helping.

I would have to say you and liberals like you are a cruel joke on an unsuspecting American public.

To..Rick.."""

No...

and it wasn't Jamie Gorelick....the wall was already in place because of nixon and his malfeasance

Funny the hijacker thing...notice the date

Hijackers Entered U.S. Legally

Thursday, November 22, 2001

WASHINGTON — All 19 Sept. 11 hijackers entered the United States with valid visas but three had lost their legal status by the time of the attacks, the Justice Department said Thursday.

The majority of the attackers, 15, were from Saudi Arabia while two came from the United Arab Emirates, one was an Egyptian and another was Lebanese.

Only two of the hijackers entered the United States last year, in January and December. The majority, 14, were admitted in May and June this year.

Their visas were granted for either pleasure trips, business or education.
Satam M.A. Al Suqami came in May this year as a temporary visitor for business but his visa had expired by Sept. 11.

Nawaf M.S. Alhazmi was the first of the 19 admitted, entering on a visitor's visa in January 2000. His visa also had expired.

Hani S.H. Hanjour arrived in December 2000 on a visa for academic studies, but became illegal when he failed to attend school.

(Story continues below)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,39298,00.html

To..Rick"""

Bush drive for home ownership fueled housing bubble

Published: Sunday, December 21, 2008

WASHINGTON — "We can put light where there's darkness, and hope where there's despondency in this country. And part of it is working together as a nation to encourage folks to own their own home."
- President George W. Bush, Oct. 15, 2002

The global financial system was teetering on the edge of collapse when Bush and his economics team huddled in the Roosevelt Room of the White House for a briefing that, in the words of one participant, "scared the hell out of everybody."

Eight years after arriving in Washington vowing to spread the dream of home ownership, Bush is leaving office, as he himself said recently, "faced with the prospect of a global meltdown" with roots in the housing sector he so ardently championed.

There are plenty of culprits, like lenders who peddled easy credit, consumers who took on mortgages they could not afford and Wall Street chieftains who loaded up on mortgage-backed securities without regard to the risk.

But the story of how the United States got here is partly one of Bush's own making, according to a review of his tenure that included interviews with dozens of current and former administration officials.

From his earliest days in office, Bush paired his belief that Americans do best when they own their own homes with his conviction that markets do best when left alone. Bush pushed hard to expand home ownership, especially among minority groups, an initiative that dovetailed with both his ambition to expand Republican appeal and the business interests of some of his biggest donors. But his housing policies and hands-off approach to regulation encouraged lax lending standards.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/worldbusiness/21iht-admin.4.18853088.html

Amunaka

These people think differently and the kindest review to Ms Gorelick indicated her memo went much further than the wall that was up already which would have probably been sufficient to protect anyone's rights. Besides, that is just one accusation, bet you can't handle the rest.:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Gorelick#9.2F11_Commission

These people think it was a bit strange that disasters follow Ms Gorelick wherever she goes:

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/09/jamie-gorelick-mistress-of-disaster.html

And these go a little further:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/mistress_of_disaster_jamie_gor.html

AND EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE IN THE SURPLUS AND THE NATIONAL DEBT.

TO AMUNAKA:

There are no problems with Fannie Mae, Barney Frank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZ9l_AxKjA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4A0RuXhnQA

And you have not yet shown me there was not a national debt of 5.3 trillion dollars when bush took office. You can find the information at this link:

http://www.savingsbonds.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt.htm

To Rick """

#536.10....

Funny how ashcroft signed off on it in Aug.2008

Office of the Attorney General
Washington, DC 20530
July 19, 1995
MEMORANDUM

The FBI's Domestic Counterterrorism Program

April 26, 1995

Recent news commentary has suggested that the FBI is hamstrung in its efforts to combat domestic terrorism. One former FBI official was quoted as saying that "you have to wait until you have blood on the street before the Bureau can act." Steven Emerson has asserted that the FBI is severely restricted in infiltrating known extremist groups, that it has no terrorism data base like the CIA's, and that it is powerless to stop extremist groups from masquerading as "religious" groups.

All of these claims are incorrect. Persons concerned about addressing the threat of terrorism need to begin with a clear understanding of current FBI capabilities, which are in fact broad.

Attorney General Guidelines

The FBI currently operates under a set of guidelines issued in 1983 by Ronald Reagan's Attorney General, William French Smith. The Smith guidelines were a modification of guidelines issued by Gerald Ford's Attorney General Edward Levi in 1976. The Levi guidelines were criticized as being too restrictive and cumbersome. Indeed, many of the criticisms of the current guidelines are really the same criticisms lodged against the Levi guidelines, which the Smith guidelines were intended to rectify.

The Smith guidelines make it absolutely clear that the FBI does not have to wait for blood in the streets before it can investigate a terrorist group. The guidelines expressly state: "In its efforts to anticipate or prevent crimes, the FBI must at times initiate investigations in advance of criminal conduct."

The threshold for opening a full investigation is low: a domestic security/terrorism investigation may be opened whenever "facts or circumstances reasonably indicate that two or more persons are engaged in an enterprise for the purpose of furthering political or social goals wholly or in part through activities that involve force or violence and a violation of the criminal laws of the United States."

http://www.cdt.org/security/usapatriot/19950426cnss-fbi-analysis.html

Office of the Deputy Attorney General
Washington, DC 20530
August 6, 2001
MEMORANDUM
U.S. Department of Justice

From: Larry D. Thompson

Subject: Intelligence Sharing
This memorandum clarifies current Department of Justice policy governing intelligence sharing, and establishes new policy. On July 19, 1995, the Attorney General adopted Procedures for Contacts Between the FBI and the Criminal Division Concerning Foreign Intelligence and Foreign Counterintelligence Investigations (1995 Procedures).

The 1995 Procedures remain in effect today. On January 21, 2000, the Attorney General adopted additional measures regarding intelligence sharing in response to the Interim Recommendations proposed by Special Litigation Counsel Randy Bellows (Interim Measures). The Interim Measures also remain in effect today.

The purpose of this memorandum is to restate and clarify certain important requirements imposed by the 1995 Procedures and Interim Measures, and to establish certain additional requirements. This memorandum does not discuss all of the current requirements, and the fact that a particular requirement is not discussed here does not mean that it is no longer in effect.

http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/dag080601.html

To..Rick""

536.11

White House, Office of the Press Secretary

October 15, 2002

President Hosts Conference on Minority Homeownership

President George W. Bush hosted the White House Conference on Minority Homeownership to discuss public and private sector efforts to address the homeownership gap and increase the number of minority homeowners in America.

In June, President Bush announced the national goal of increasing the number of minority homeowners by at least 5.5 million by the end of this decade. Meeting the President's goal will not only help more Americans enjoy the benefits of owning their own homes it will also help strengthen America's economy. According to a study released today by the Department of Housing and Urban Development, meeting the President's goal will involve $256 billion in economic activity in the form of construction and remodeling jobs, spending on household goods, and other benefits.

Background on Today's Presidential Action

In June, President Bush announced an aggressive homeownership agenda to dismantle barriers to homeownership by providing down payment assistance, increasing the supply of affordable homes, increasing support for self-help homeownership programs, and simplifying the homebuying process and increasing education. The President also issued "America's Homeownership Challenge" to the real estate and mortgage finance industries to join in his effort to increase the number of minority homeowners by taking concrete steps to tear down the barriers to homeownership that face minority families.

The Bush Administration is working to increase homeownership among minority Americans through a number of new and expanded initiatives, as well as through ongoing programs administered by HUD and other federal departments, including

....http://www.policyalmanac.org/social_welfare/archive/wh_minority_housing.shtml

To..Rick."""

536.12

And it was over 11 trillion when he left before the mess caused by repubs running the white house the senate and congress from 2003 -2007...came home to roost ...

OK now let me get this straight. This all started coming together as early as 1990 and now you are blaming Bush for not acting on a warning that he got about a month before the attack. I guess we were wrong to blame Obama for laying blame. That seems to be common to democrats

So what about the sub prime meltdown and the National debt. The derivatives market and the resistance to regulating Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

Amunaka

I gave you links to what the Clinton acministration did to cause the sub prime meltdown. I gave you links to the democrats saying there was no need to regulate Fannie and Freddie. What have you given me other than some link of Bush saying the would like for everyone to own a home.

536.15

And the national debt was a lot closer to 10 trillion when Bush left than it was to 11 trillion.

You Bozo's the Federal Reserve caused everything you are talking about. Bush and Obama are nothing more than bobble head toys who lick their boots. How can you let both Obama and Romney have their largest corporate lobby be Goldman Sachs who is the main connection to the Federal Reserve cartel?

You people see a difference between Bush, Obama or Romney? I don't! They were/are all banking, oil and military contractor owned stooges. Any of these three lobby's says "bailout, invade a country, print currency, borrow, raise taxes etc and all three of these knuckle-heads bow down and start kissing toes.

All the statistics you throw around are fabricated by the FED bankers creating currency or stopping creating it. That is how the bubbles are formed. You can create all the "poor housing' laws you want but if the FED does not flood the market with dollars there is no "loan money" to back any of that baloney. It is a rigged game with the FED pulling all the strings.

At least get pissed off at the people who are actually responsible for this mess and not some bobble head bozo who gets paid to take the heat off them. These politicians don't "announce" or "pass" anything that is not approved by and hand written by these lobby's.

Changing mainstream party candidates expecting change is like changing your socks expecting to become a different person. Both party's are more of the problem than any solution.

That's what I like to see - don't support Mitt because he has good ideas, but he might beat Obama. That's some real thinking!!!

Sorry, James...it's gonna be the guy with the large fishnet on the long pole who catches her first. The long pole is just in case ol' Pruneface Brewer is rabid, foaming from the mouth again.

There'll also be a standby with a loaded dart gun for ol' Pruneface.

Obama/Biden win again in 2012! No doubt!!

She looks like she dated the whole First Mar DIV.