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The Arizona governor formally announces her support to the former Massachusetts governor in the GOP race.
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) endorsed Mitt Romney for president during her appearance Sunday morning on “Meet the Press.”
Brewer said she viewed Romney as the most electable candidate to challenge President Obama this fall, and that she made her conclusion after meeting with the candidates and after a debate this week in Arizona.
“I have decided that I am going to publicly endorse Mitt Romney. I think he's the man that can carry the day,” Brewer said. “I think Mitt is by far the person who can go in and win.”
Brewer has become a national figurehead for efforts to curb illegal immigration after leading an effort to install one of the nation’s toughest immigration laws.
She also drew headlines for a confrontation recently with President Obama on an airport tarmac. She was photographed wagging a finger at the president after greeting him and handing him a handwritten note. Brewer described the exchange as being driven by Obama’s dissatisfaction with her book, though the president described the exchange as being “not a big deal.”
Romney is seen as the leader in Arizona, the winner of which is awarded all of the state’s delegates to the Republican National Convention this summer.
Forty-three percent of likely Republican primary voters said they intend to vote for Romney in a NBC News/Marist poll released midweek; he was followed by former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum at 27 percent, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 16 percent and Texas Rep. Ron Paul at 11 percent.
Arizona hosts its primary, along with Michigan, on Tuesday. A larger group of states host their primaries or caucuses a week later, on Super Tuesday. Brewer said she expected Super Tuesday to largely end the battle for the nomination, even if Santorum were to continue fighting.
“He might be in it but I think it’ll be overwhelmingly decided after Super Tuesday,” she said.
That poll also suggested that a Republican candidate who might embrace Arizona’s tough laws targeting illegal immigrants would fare better among primary voters. Brewer was the most vocal proponent of the law, which requires police officers to check the citizenship papers of people they stop or arrest if the officer suspects the person may be in this country illegally.
Sixty-seven percent of likely Republican primary voters said they would be more likely to support a candidate who backs that law, while 25 percent said it would have no effect. Six percent of Republicans said a candidate’s support for the law would make it less likely to win their vote.
Moreover, the poll found that 24 percent of Arizona Republicans said Romney best represents their views on immigration, while 20 percent said Gingrich, and 18 percent said Santorum.
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So, the finger wagging, wicked witch of the West supports Willard...
Talk about a surprise?
NOT!!!
Not a surprise and not a very courageous choice. Romney will win Arizona with ease and now Brewer can claim that she had something to do with it.
SI
She looked at the polls in AZ, saw Romney was ahead and decided to endorse him. Wow, what a political animal! A finger pointing crazy animal who preys on illegal immigrants.
She's just another tea people GOP Koch republican nut. Nobody outside AZ pays any attention to her, and even AZ is beginning to ignore her.
LOL ... you misspelled witch doesn't is start with a b ?
Feisty Redhead I figure radical Jan Brewer back another radical like Rick Santorum. I am just little surprised by this move. I think the only reason she is backing Willard Romney is because he has such a big lead in the polls. Of course he flip flopped on immigration. In Florida Willard said self Deportation. Then once he goes to AZ. he flip flops and goes finger pointing radical Jan Brewer on immigration. I guess Rick Santorum didn't do good enough job flip flop job immigration.
By endorsing Romney; this wild west wicked cowgal has handed over the republican race to Santorum.
Wont be long before the other witch Sarah Palin seal the deal for Santorum by endorsing Romney....
Sure looks like Mr. Wall Street insider aint going to the white house after all....The middle class can rest easy...not so fast on religious nut though..
That is one ugly, evil old w**re. Anyone who would wag their finger in the face of the president of the United States (any president) is someone who doesn't deserve a position of authority. The most screwed up part of it is that she did it for a photo op.
"Hey! Get over here and get a shot of my putting my finger in Obama's face for my next book!" I hope one of her ghost illegals takes her into the desert and beheads her.
Maybe if some of the small minded liberals commenting in here would consider what the border states are dealing with, they would not make such idiotic statements on Gov. Brewer and immigration. The Texas Agriculture Chairman has been in the news lately pleading for federal assistance with ever increasing problem of Mexican drug cartel attacks on Texas ranchers. He has formally asked the president for assistance with 'boots on the ground' personnel 3 times, only to be ignored by President Obama and his administration. Didn't Pres. Obama just promise he was 100% in support on protecting our borders and that he would do everything in power regarding this issue in his last STOU address?? Yes...he did. Obama says one thing, and will do nothing or do a complete turn around like he did on SuperPacs. Didn't President Obama condemn SuperPacs as 'anti-democracy' and then turn around and use them himself? What is going on with that guy??
Could be the Romney campaigns "kiss of death".
I believe that Yosemete Sam and Daffy Duck did as well. Anyone listening to Brewer would also listen to YS and Daffy as well, so I cannot see where this would help him any. Mitt is picking up a lot of endorsements many of which I think he would just assume not have.
....plus right now, after her endorsement; the Latino voters who were behind Romney due to the so called "Romney-Mexican heritage" connection" are leaving him faster than you can say "Burrito".....even if he did win the Teapub nomination; he's not going anywhere....except maybe retire in Mexico
uhhh and gotten it,
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/10/barack-obama/obama-says-border-patrol-has-doubled-number-agents/
Put down the tea man and think for once...
The more that establishment Republicans endorse Romney, the less likely I am to vote for him. The problems this country is currently experiencing are the result of the control of the establishment politicians - Rep and Dem. Why would I vote for someone that THEY want to see in the White House....seems that they would want one of their own, therefore that is NOT who I want.
Uh Fiesty, the wicked witch of the west has been and always will be, Pelosi.
Who cares? How will this sell books for this shrewd self-promoter?
In 1976, Ronald Reagan came in second place to Gerald Ford in the GOP primaries.
In 1980, George H.W. Bush came in second place to Ronald Reagan.
In 1988, Bob Dole came in second place to George H.W. Bush.
In 2000, John McCain came in second place to George W. Bush.
In 2008, Mitt Romney came in second place to John McCain.
It's just the way the GOP works. Romney was chosen as the 2012 nominee the moment McCain lost the general election in 2008.
Are we really going to have to sit through almost six more months of hearing which new endorsement has been handed out to a GOP candidate by someone with no political credibility?
Can GOP voters make up their own minds for whom to vote?
...Gee, that was a dumb question!
Arizona politics are run by a minority of old-school morman bigots in Maricopa county. Her endorsement was a given years ago. Don't forget that Phoenix is the home of the John Birch society and that that mentality permiates state politics. Google Evan Mecham and get educated as to the arrogant bigoted mind-set of the power class in Arizona.
Damn. I was SURE she was going to back Obama.
Considering he's leading Arizona in every poll by double digits just means Jane is pandering. She is much more of a right winger but wouldn't challenge her base in Arizona...
I still find it comical she endorses chasing individual illegal Aliens around rather than address the source of their journey, Jobs. Nail the employers with real laws and problem solved.
However this is the part the sheeple seem to over look, Companies who use low paid workers contribute to people like Jan so she wouldnt dare kill the Goose...
You fellas sure an upbeat bunch this morning. All bright eyed and bushy tailed and full of bigotry.
Morning
Galt 2012
We the corportations-
I am not sure what color the sky is in the world you live in, but, no, these border states still having major issues with drug cartel from Mexico attacking them. The Texas Agriculture Commissioner was just on television last week pleading his case on how he had been ignored by the Obama Adm. for assistance. Why is it that liberals refuse to recognize this and refuse to recognize a president that changes his mind on almost everything??
There are going to be a lot of people who think "THEY DESERVE" government handouts, which can not be paid for and need to be cut, that will be shocked and disappointed when Romney wins the Presidency!
Romney has the money behind him!
Obama, with his socialist agenda, that can not be paid for, is done!
America lacks leadership with Obama!
The social worker, idealist, sitting in the White House, has no idea how to lead America out of the fiscal mess he helped create! None!
Let's be perfectly clear on this. The Wicked Witch of the West is Nancy Pelosi who won the title with her S!!t eating Grin when she was the Mouthpiece of the house
rob,
The drug war has cost the United States over a trillion dollars. I find that it is difficult to make the case that we are trillions of dollars in debt, and yet are obliged to throw billions more into border patrol and the military while simultaneously cutting taxes across the board. No one, Republican or Democrat, can argue that they are "more serious" about balancing the budget if there are programs, social or defense-related, they consider absolutely un-cuttable.
First Christine 'I am not a witch' O'Donnell & now Jan the'Mummy' Brewer - Willard sure can attract some stellar endoresments... lol
Perhaps someone can endorse an effective product for her ugly prune faced bulldog mug.
Although I do not condone any of the name calling towards any of these people mentioned in this thread, I do agree with Sammy72746 in that Nancy Pelosi sets the standard on irresponsible government actions. When Pelosi went on national television and adamantly told everyone to just support the 'ObamaCare Bill' and remarked when asked if she had even read the bill...'no...just vote for it so we can see what is in it' that perfectly exemplifies the liberal mindset.
'We don't care what is in a $900BILLION dollar bill...just vote for it.' ????????????WTTF!!!!
And she's skipping the National Governors Association Dinner at the White House?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-25/brewer-plans-to-skip-national-governors-association-dinner-at-white-house.html
Oh, and Rick Scott will go to the dinner but he's skipping the meetings? I had no idea Florida was doing so well on job creation and healthcare.Ha!
Feisty,
I would not knock her just for the sake of it. But Brewer has got to be one of THE most unsavory characters on the books.
Who on earth would want her endorsement?
Vote Sheriff Babeu for Congress 2012.
Ryan-WI,
I understand what you are saying, but, I disagree with putting a tax dollar issue and budget issue on protecting our borders and our US citizens from Mexican(or any terrorists) drug cartel. The safety of our people is the first priority of our government. This has always been the case and as it should be. We see in the news everyday how US citizens are being killed and attacked by these drug cartel people along the southwest border. Absolutely unacceptable.
This is the woman who claims that Arizona was under attack from drug cartels doing beheadings in the desert. However, no evidence of that can be found of course she's from the party of fear. Brewer was called out on that during a debate and she refused to address the question both from her opponent and the media.
Facts mean nothing to these people. Legitimate news agencies asked local law enforcement and could not find one department that could verify such a claim. The party of fear and hate rears its ugly (GOP) head.
My, the entitlement set is really concerned about the republican candidate?
Y'all sure are working hard to denigrate someone , considering all of the entitlement set think Obama is a shoo in.
However, for your information.
Romney and the inept quasi socialist in the white house are brothers by different mothers.
Obama insurance farce and Romney's insurance farce make both of them unelectable.
C.Y.O.A. You know "Cover Your Own A$$." Thats all she is doing. Go with the front runner. If the front runner gets his party nomination she looks good. If she picks someone else she looks like a loser. (she is already) She is looking to the future. The only problem is its for her own gain not for her state or country.
Somebody needs to! The Federal Government and most State Governments won't!
If you liked the First (and promised to be ONLY) Amnesty you're going to love what Obama and company have in store for us!
They are here ILLEGALLY! What part of that don't you Liberals understand? With TRUE unemployment running close to 20%, even those jobs "Citizens won't do" are needed for Citizens! The BILLIONS we, the Taxpayers", spend to support them should be used for helping CITIZENS!
The ILLEGAL ALIENS came from poverty in their own countries and choose to live in slightly better poverty here with the help of OUR TAX DOLLARS! We, already, have too many Citizens living in poverty!
If you LIBERALS are so concerned, give the rest of us a BREAK and take an ILLEGAL ALIEN family under your roof and support them out of YOUR pocket!
rob,
I agree that the drug cartel situation is unacceptable. But if we want to increase border security, the administration has to get organized and the government has to agree on a few basic priorities. I don't think we can rationalize increasing security or national defense without raising taxes, because the idea of cutting social programs to compensate for that much money, though attractive to conservatives in theory, isn't realistic and could cause a lot of short-term damage as far as unemployment.
That, or we have to legalize the drugs to make drug trafficking obsolete and unprofitable. This option is, of course, equally unrealistic for social and political reasons.
Oh boy. This is going to make up for Sheriff Babeau? An anti-immigrant hustler, caught in bed with a gay illegal immigrant lover. Babeau was the co-chair of the Romney Arizona campaign and was featured on political ads with John McCain urging President Obama to build the American Berlin Wall of the southern border.
Let's face it folks, the republican party is no more. It's no party at all.
Rob Peters
You can blame President Obama all you want but the REAL culprit is YOUR governor Rick Perry. Here are a couple of excerpts from his 2001 Mexico Summit Speech. Oddly enough you can't always bring up the entire thing on google anymore.....go figure!
With Texas serving as the Gateway to Mexico, it is time that we receive congressional funding that reflects the instrumental role our state plays as a port of entry. With a Texan in the White House, I believe there is no greater opportunity to end the funding discrimination that crippled Texas infrastructure under the previous administration. Good infrastructure is essential to the free flow of commerce. It is a matter of economic fact that free trade lifts the tide for all the boats in the harbor. U.S. trade with Mexico has increased by 500% since 1994. Exports and imports between Texas and Mexico now exceed $100 billion dollars annually. Thousands of jobs have been created for Texas and Mexican workers, confirming the indisputable fact that trade with Mexico is big business for Texas.
The fruits of NAFTA have just begun to ripen. At the same time, we must not allow the roots of the tree to become poisoned. The NAFTA agreement not only signaled a new era of economic possibility, but a new era of bi-national cooperation. That is why it is wrong, and inherently detrimental to our relationship with Mexico for the U.S. Congress to pursue a protectionist policy that forbids Mexican trucks from U.S. roadways. It is bad public policy, and it violates the terms of the NAFTA agreement we agreed to. Mexican trucks that meet our safety standards should be given the same access to U.S. roads as our Canadian neighbors to the north
There are other challenges that require a unified approach, especially in the area of health care. A lack of preventative medicine means conditions that could have been eliminated through childhood immunizations show up in disturbing numbers later in life. Limited availability of medical specialists means conditions like heart disease and diabetes go untreated at alarming rates. In Texas, we recently placed a strong emphasis on preventative care when we expanded access to Medicaid for more low-income children by making the Medicaid enrollment process simpler. We allocated an additional $4 billion to the Medicaid program, and more than $900 million to the Children’s Health Insurance Program. I urged legislators to pass a telemedicine pilot program that will enable, through technology, a sick border resident of limited financial means to receive care from a specialist hundreds of miles away. But the effort to combat disease and illness requires greater cooperative efforts between our two nations. It is a simple truth that disease knows no boundaries. An outbreak of drug-resistant tuberculosis, for example, endangers citizens of both our nations. We have much to gain if we work together to expand preventative care, and treat maladies unique to this region.
As a compassionate state, we know that for our children to succeed, they must not only be healthy, but educated. The future leaders of our two nations are learning their fractions and their ABC’s in classrooms all along this border. Immigrants from around the world are being taught in Texas classrooms, and our history is rich with examples of new citizens who have made great contributions. We must say to every Texas child learning in a Texas classroom, “we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.” And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. Those young minds are a part of a new generation of leaders, the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.
And ends with this:
Today, as we look to the south, we see a rising sun. It is perched above a people whose best days are in front of them. Let us endeavor to make the most of this new day through a new dialogue. Let us work together to combat disease, expand trade and provide educational opportunities. If we do, there are no limits to what we can accomplish for the betterment of all of our citizens. Thank you, and God bless you.
Rob, did you read the link 'We the corporations' put in his comment? Over 20K border patrols already, more than what Duh-bya had there?!
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/10/barack-obama/obama-says-border-patrol-has-doubled-number-agents/
The trouble with the right, is selective hearing/reading. And please, see it for what it is. The GOPhers are lying shamelessly, even the blind can see that! Again, their ultimate goal is to make Obama a one term president even if they have to put a total freak in the W.H. The party of Greedy Obstructionists will just swindle for votes from anyone who buy their vile agenda - plutocracy/oligarchy/fascism. Support them, and you're in for a rude awakening.
She reminds me of "Aunt Clara" from Bewitched. That's some endorsement . . .
Brewer's endorsement is about as valuable as Joe Arpaio's endorsement of Rick Perry.
She does look and act like a beach. She's a nobody, anyway. Just another tea bag on the pile.
I have seen people in rest homes that are brighter and smarter than this woman... She must be spending too much time out in the Arizona sun...
Watching her on Meet The Press with Gov. Jerry Brown was hilarious... He was right on target with his answers to questions while she was Um, Um, Ah, Um... Top it off, she, as gov. of Arizona, refused to meet with other governor's at the white House... Dumb! Arizona needs a new governor...
Stop the bull@!$%# "everyday" really I mean "everyday" really...Just like Jan Brewer more hyperbole, give us the facts not the screaming fear-mongering.
Terry-Ca
We're working on it. However, this state is an infrared state. Very right wing, very fascist. It's going to take a lot of effort to find someone that is anywhere near the center of the political spectrum here. It's going to take more than just getting rid of this fascist pig. The legislature is full of them. It's got to be a pincer attack on both the legislature and the governorship.
The main issue voiced by Republicans is to defeat Obama at the polls. The entire Republican effort reflects a mean-spirited movement based on anger and resentment, without a shred of statesmanship among the myriad candidates.
Now comes intemperate harridan Jan Brewer with her endorsement of Mitt Romney. It has been said that she formulated her endorsement as a result of having surveyed various polls, that is, Brewer is endorsing whoever she thinks can win. Still no statesmanship.
Who will John McCain & Sarah Palin endorse?
Brewer publicly stated on 'This Week' that government is a necessary evil. If that is her view, then the federal government shouldn't spend a dime to assist her state. If she wants federal assistance, she can start by treating the President with respect.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gov-jan-brewer-government-evil/story?id=13011884#.T0pmb4cgeW4
Racists for Romney 2012! Taking the country back to slavery, one lead-addled white American brain at a time! Hate your brown neighbor? Hang in there, soon you'll get to own them.....
Anyone have the numbers handy, are white racists the minority YET???
Yes, lets all vote for Romney.
Romney who wants to overturn Roe v Wade.
Romney who supports the person-hood amendment that would make many types of birth control illegal and make miscarriages a murder investigation. You ever think how large the government needs to be to monitor every woman's pregnancy?
Romney wants to raise your taxes and cut social security and medicare and health-care to pay for more tax cuts for himself.
Romney cares so much for the people he has indicated that he would get rid of food stamps, housing assistance and health care to pay for even more tax cuts for himself and his rich friends.
Then after the republicans force women to have children they can't afford then Romney with his big heart will let you watch homeless children starve to death. It is the compassionate republican way.
After the republicans force these children to be born they then don't want to give them an education. As Santorum so aptly put it, educated children no longer believe the crap lies that Santorum and the republicans are pushing.
If you are tired of having personal rights and freedom in this country, vote for Romney, he doesn't think you should have personal rights either, especially when it comes to your own body.
Oh my, and speaking of 'This Week' interviews, I see that icky Ricky wants all Americans to run around and puke. Seems he wants all of us to 'surge' from both ends. What is it with this man and his strange fascination with expelling internal liquids.
At least Brewer has the BALLS to stand up for America! I'm with you PappaDave@ 1.36
@ Blue Demon - yeah, riiiiggghhtttt.......thanks for identifying yourself so we can stay clear of your toxic ideology....also, try getting a lead test.
By the way, are you Native American? If not, some might wish you'd go back to where your interloping fascist ancestors came from, Illegal......
Arizona, is this the best you can come up with? A brainfarting bigot?
I hate her for saying she felt "threatened" by Obama. Typical white woman lie, just like Susan "a black man kidnapped my babies" Smith. Disgusting.
Judging from your moniker, you like to denigrate dogs - as well as fellow human beings.
Brewer represents a state in America that is doing just that.
Arizona will NOT be the future of America.
Arizona is going backwards in its own mind.
Reply to: Fiesty Redhead Roselle, IL
"So, the finger wagging, wicked witch of the West supports Willard... Talk about a surprise? NOT!!!"
This is "Freedom of speech"...??? Your comment hit the jagged, rusty nail on the head. I don't see why your "Comment [was] collapsed by the community"; your comment is true.
Rob, So 20,000 border patrol agents, 350 guard members plus an additional 1200 troops promised by OBama is doing NOTHING in your eyes??? How many do you want? All of this takes money and we all know the Reps aren't going to approve more spending unless they stick it to the middle class AGAIN....
Why are posts with no offensive content being collapsed. I seems to be much more common to collapse pro Obama posts. Assaults on free speach , even small ones like these speak volumes about those who carry them out. Were I a presidential candidate an endorsement by Jan Brewer would seriously make me consider just how much of my soul I was willing to surrender to get this job.
jkh
Brewer and the rest of the right-wing NUTS currently waging their modern Christian Crusades across the country are ignorant, racist, vile and just plain mean. If the US can't overcome this virulent superstition and religious dogma we will fall far behind the rest of the modern world and our people will pay the price. Shame on Brewer, Romney and Sanitarium... they are horrible people and dangerous politicians.
Redhead is a deadhead.
Just another act in this MonTEA Pythetic movie. Fringe politics had its chance to become 'mainstream' but - alas - screaming 'Nee' hasn't helped defeat the liberal Jabberwocky.
From the participation in the primaries, so far, the Republican base represents 1 in 20 voters. Not quite 'mainstream' politics. So far the leading candidates have been endorsed by less than 1 in 50 voters. If the objective of fringe politics is to minimize voter participation - then - fringe politics is working exceeding well.
This is huge for Romney, no Republican is a better America.
@Janus00234.............Right on man. All you have to do is follow both Obama and Romney's puppet strings, they are both attached to Goldman Sachs.
C'mon you guys, be nice. Who wouldn't want that wrinkled old prune's endorsement? I'm sure President Obama is glad it's not him that she wants. "Don't know where that finger of hers has been and sure don't want it waved in my face again!"
No, she stands up for those who think like her. "Everyone's a potential enemy waiting to take what i've got" type of mentality. You know, fear and anger over something they don't understand. As for Pappa Dave's comment; he's dead wrong. Those illegals are here because low wage employers love them. I know several who prefer them because they work their a$$es off and don't complain the way young people. who were counted on to do these jobs, do. You guys need to quit commenting on stuff you know nothing about. Only makes you looks stupider and more bigoted than you already are. You have one thing right though. I'm sure the fine guv'ner has a nice pair of balls.
PLEASE RESTORE THIS THREAD!!!!
Sorry - but I must disagree. Case-in-point, someone should have stopped Dumbya Bush and should have done some finger-wagging to get that moron's attention before he drove the US to the brink of destruction and dumped the entire nation into a cesspool. Unfortunately, the only one to do any wagging was Laura, and it wasn't her finger, it was her strap-on.
"It's my party and I'll cry if I want to, cry if I want to,....you would cry too, if it happened to you !"
This is looking more and more like Romney's campaign song.
I may be wrong but Jan Brewer has got to be the ugliest white woman I've ever seen. That's on the outside she's even uglier on the inside......... I guess you can freeze dry anything.
Brewer's skin has more preservatives than a Twinkie and those false teeth are more fake than Trump's rug. And that's the least of her problems. This "bi-peddle carbon based life form" has not an ounce of class, as is normal for white trash. Says a lot about Arizona voters.
DMorg,
I understand your point but respectfully disagree. Demonstrations by citizens are there responsibility elected officials have ample opportunity to make their feelings known through a slathering media who fawn over their every utterance. Sticking your finger in the presidents face shuting "You Lie" or questioning the presidents birthright on the floor of Congress have not been seen since Andrew Johnson was president. Even vermin like Nixon or Cheyney were never treated in such a manner. The GOP attempted lynching of either Clinton is close but in my 35 years of political involvement I have never seen such open disrespect of a sitting president by the opposition party onl the Gingrich House comes close.
JKH
Jan Brewer ought to be deported and tried for treason.
The same exact thing that was said about Natalie Mains who only said she was "embarrassed to be from the same state as the president" She didn't name G.W., and she didn't call him some ridiculous nickname. She didn't call him a liar, she didn't throw a tantrum and wave her finger in his face, and she certainly didn't abandon the Middle Class with the stated goal of making him a one-term president.
If all the Greedy Obstructionist Party can run on is making an incumbent a one-term president, then they are doing NOTHING about the economy, nothing to reduce the deficit they created under Dubya Shrub, and nothing to create all the jobs they promised in their tea-drunken haze. How anyone who isn't a multibillionaire can support the RepubliCONS is beyond me.
They clearly don't love America, because they clearly hate the average American.
Willard must be very happy he lost his gay sherriffs support but he gained the support from the crypt keeper.
I told you Gingrich was smart. He paid her to endorse Romney.
whenever I see anything written or covered about this lady, one thought and one thought only enters my mind....
"OLD CRACKHEAD!!!!!!!"
I for one will vote for anyone but the ()**&&^^%^%$%$##$%^&* that occupies the white house at this time.
I thought she had more guts than that! Come on, Governor Brewer! You CAN be a leader! Don't fall into the political abyss! Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate in it for the people!
She's endorsing the one that gaffs as much as she does.
NOBODY gaffs as much as ol' AIRHEAD Jan!
Oh goody! Now, we know Jan supports Mitt and Sharron supports Ricky! What a pair!
Although Ron Paul has the most enthusiastic supporters, that support usually peaks at about 10-15% of the Republican vote. His foreign policy and views on marriage just don't mesh with the Republican platform.
I believe the race has truly come down to Romney vs. Santorum. Gingrich has put himself in the worst possible position for his ego; he can either fight all the way to the convention as promised and emerge with 2 state victories (South Carolina and possibly Georgia) and a huge campaign debt, or he can back out now and look foolish for having sworn he would stay in until August. Regardless, I think this is one of the most interesting primaries we've ever seen.
Dear Free-thinker, I think you should check on Ron Paul voting record if you think he is in it for the people.
Here is proof, Ron Paul voted to not increase minimum wage. He sure has a funny way of being for the people as this would benefit the corporations not the people.
Mr. for the people also voted for the billion dollar oil companies to keep their special tax cuts. Tax cuts that added to the deficit as if Ron Paul cared.
Ron Paul never met a tax cut he didn't like especially if it increased the deficit.
Can't forget the pacifist. His last chance to vote to end the Iraq war, he didn't. Instead he voted with the republicans to continue the war with no end in sight. Sounds like a pacifist and someone against war to me, how about you?
Ron Paul is consistent, he always votes for the 1% against the people with the rest of the republicans.
I challenge any Ron Paul followers to come up with a vote where Ron Paul voted to do something for the people and not the corporations.
Of course Ron Pauls Foreign policy doesn't sit with the Moral Republicans, they just can't wrap their heads around the idea of the golden rule, you could hear it when they booed him. What kind of Jesus freak would actually boo the idea of live and let live? As if they expect Jesus too rain Nuclear waste upon the entire Muslim religion. I find it sickening that someone can claim to be religious and then turn their backs on the instruction manual explaining how to live like Jesus. If it was up too the right wing, they would probably deport Jesus or label him a terrorist. They have a stench on them like pigs rolling around in their own sh!t. Most wouldn't know a bible if you took the cross off of it, much less what it says inside. Their motto is do as I say, not as I do. Such as their "Tough" STOCK law, isn't that right Mr. Can'twhore?
You may as well vote for Biden another old man who is close to having alzheimer!!
Trust:
You shouldn't insult pigs like that!
Good for Romney, he's got the old bitter zombie vote locked up.
I wonder how happy he was to hear this news? Another dishonest bimbo takes her place in line... lol.
"Romney is a better deal than that Dirtbag Santorum"
"Ricko is as Phony as a three dollar bill"
FreeThinker2012: I respect your conviction in supporting Ron Paul. However, I'm more concerned with voting Obama OUT! And I don't believe Ron Paul has a snowball's chance in h*ll of being able to accomplish that. I do believe Romney does, that's why he deserves support, and he's conservative enough to be a good President. So.....do you wrap yourself in the flag of Ron Paul and defiantly sink beneath the waves at election time, or put a more pragmatic spin on things and go with the candidate who at least has a reasonable chance of sending the Community Organizer in Chief back to wherever? I'm not vehemently against any of the Republican candidates since each has a variety of good qualifications. I just want a President who will at least attempt to steer this ship of state toward long term fiscal sanity. The guy in there now will merrily continue on toward the Western Atlantic version of Greece.....until we're over the edge and beyond salvation. Of course, it would be nice if we also could change the philosophy of Congress, with a gutsier group willing to tell John Q Citizen that entitlement changes MUST occur, and now better than later. Oh well, that's a subject for another time......
This doesn't surprise me about the governor. Remember this is the same state that gives us John McCain, the last Republican that lost and they championed. 41% of Republicans in Arizona are establishment oriented sheeple. No surprise here..
The only citizens that have it over the Arizona citizens in stupidity is Nevada. They re-elected Reid.. but then again there is California.. but we've come to expect it from fruity Cal.
Let"s see - the GOP b**ch supports the never tired of flip-flopping Mitch. What a glorious pair! How far the GOP has fallen! There is no integrity or intelligence left in the GOP. How incredibly sad the party has sunk this low.
Sorry cappidad, but I'ld rather not have a Republican version of Obama. Or the Democrat one for that matter.
Romney, Gingrich and Soantorum are giving the same lip service that Obama did in '08, as Bush did in '00, as Clinton did in '92, as Bush did in '88, et al. The People have been sold out by almost all of them. Reagan tried, and he was shot. Kennedy tried, and he was killed. Lincoln, and others. Ron Paul may not be the most "Charismatic", but at least he's genuine. NONE of the rest are even close.
Spiddas - Obama, without the obstructionists, could do a great deal. Sorry but Ron Paul is a little too strange for my taste.
Then you still believe that there is actually a significant difference between Rep and Dem?
Rather than argue, I'll give you a little "homework". Check your local library and see if they have the book, "The Creature From Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve" by G. Edward Griffin. I've read it a couple of times, with the first around 2007. Go ahead and read that, and then we can talk... ~_o
Well jan has done it again...who would be stupid to go with her indorsement..she can't even run the state of Arizona in a good manner...her politics are stupid and it prove she doesn't know what she is doing..she is a puppet control by other forces...she is an airhead...so those who follow her are being mislead...her politic and ideal suck and has hurt arizona termendously...and it has been proven...she is the worse governor that the people have put in office...
I wonder if Romney will throw that old fish back into the river. Definitely not a keeper.
FreeThinker2012
I think you are right. What MSM and the rest of the Republican party doesn't understand is that once people are Ron Paul supporters, they will not capitulate and vote party line. In fact, I and I think most will simply write him in if that is what it takes. They will not win without us.
par for the course...she has to keep her republican mormons happy in that state, or they'll turn against her. it's all simply politics as usual. she's too old to be governor, no second term, please.
Obama has done enough to destroy the usa,thank you. Ron Paul is the only deceny one running who actually mentions the constitution.But i dont think he has the votes to win.
Romney votes like a democrat so you obummer folks should like him.He talks better bullsht about energy than the wind and sunshine president.Mabe RP as vice president,at least his votes would go in the right direction.
Honestly, does this really change anything? If someones "endorsment" sways your opinion one way or the other, why are you even bothering to vote? Same goes for these "super-pacs". Look at the candidates history and use your brain to come to your own conclusion. BTW,I'm not a Romney fan. I don't like a party telling me who I need to vote for.
Given Brewer's popularity, or lack thereof, in her own state her endorsement is yet another Kiss of Death for Romney. Trump's Romney Kiss of Death was enough.
No one would give 2 turds about who this gargoyle endorsed if it hadn't been for her blatant disrespect for the POTUS. Hey what ever happened to that "Show some respect for the office" line I read 10,000 times a day when Bush tard was the POTUS? The Republican party is on a slippery slope headed straight for the sewer you created from the days of Bushie and your buddy Rove. Enjoy the ride on your slip n slide you made the bed now lie in it. Though I doubt you will have the class to take your own medicine any more than you had the class to congratulate black folks for having their first man in the white house. You missed a great opportunity to have some class and reach out to the people you hate so much and work with them to find solid solutions for our country. Instead you filled the air with venom and behave like vile little creatures that do nothing but obstruct progress at every turn. Remember this era well because we liberals will and if and when you take the white house back know that you will be doomed to eat your own failure and lack of character. You are a pathetic group of shameful horrible human beings.
How every argument against Obama ends up:
Blah blah blah blah blah Obamacare blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah massive deficits blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah unions blah blah blah blah blah regulations blah blah blah blah blah blah pro terrorist blah blah blah blah ant-religion blah blah blah blah socialist (/communist/marxist).
Just for giggles, let's look at arguments for Ron Paul:
blah blah blah blah principled blah blah blah blah constitution blah blah blah blah last honorable politician blah blah blah blah liberty blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah for the people
I'm serious, this rhetoric is getting annoying.
Earlier I challenged any Ron Paul supporter to come up with a vote where he voted for the people.
And as you see crickets. I knew they couldn't as he votes with republicans over 80% of the time and when has the republicans ever voted for the people. Just like how old Ron voted to not increase the minimum wage. Ron has a bold way of saying I am for the people.
Working two jobs to still live in poverty is just fine with Ron just so long as his beloved corporations don't have to pay more in payroll. In Ron mind it is your republican given freedom to live in poverty and the corporations republican given freedom to pay you just as little as they can.
You just got screwed if Ron Paul is your republican you think is for the people.
These are the issues that have myself siding with Ron Paul in a nut shell: http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/1783/honestronpaul.jpg
Arizona Governor Jan Brewer attended Glendale Community College in California where she received a radiological technologist certificate, but never earned a degree.
We won't have progress at the federal level until voters elect governors, senators and congressional representatives who are educated and experienced. The states that are fiscally mismanaged and have poor infrastructure tend to be red states with unqualified people in high office, people like Jan Brewer.
How about reporting Mr. Obama's FIRST endorsement.......CPUSA ?
And the Head of CPUSA says millions in his party are Democrats.
Yep, there are TONS of unqualified folks in this administation.
AF,
I didn't see you earlier call out but I'm here now.
Almost every vote he has taken has been for the American people, ALL the American People, not just the liberal democrat half. Ron Paul understands what this country was founded upon,
REPUBLICANISM!
You don't believe me? Here is a basic link for you to peruse and start to learn what ALL the great presidents and leaders of this country have all known and held dear to their hearts.
Republicanism in the United States
It's a wiki link but it is a good start to understanding what this country stands for, or, better stated in today's world, what this country SHOULD stand for.
Understand and learn what makes us unique in the world as a people and country. Learn why Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt could take so many positions that today sound like the Democrats positions, or on the other hand, Franklin Roosevelt and Jack Kennedy could take so many positions that would be considered true Republican positions in today's political world.
One of the reasons we are so apart politically in this country is they do not teach what political philosophy this nation was founded upon anymore, read, research and learn.
You will then (hopefully) understand why Dr Paul supporters will NOT support any one else.
Since when was Obama for SOPA, Wars, or "corporatism"? Also NDAA is a poor example. Obama opposed that, but he was forced to sign it by a veto-proof majority. Furthermore "no" to Federal Reserve and IRS is not a good thing. There needs to be some source of revenue for the government. "Deficit Spending" and "Bailouts" are other poor examples. Obama opposed the financial bailouts of Bush and actually banned them from ever happening again, while Republicans primarily oppose the successful automaker bailouts. Deficit Spending is a very very vague term, and it will be impossible to pay off interest from the debt if we have no revenue.
Spot on, Egilman.
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It's been stated numerous times what Ron Paul has done, or even tried to do, for the People. Here is a list of just a few:
I personally know a handful of people who can ask you a question what color the sky and grass are, and when you tell them blue and green, they insist you are not telling them the truth. Anyone who still believes Ron Paul is not for the People are in that group that will never get it.
It's fine what Ron Paul says and votes for, but when has he gotten anything done?
Mr. A,
He hasn't gotten anything passed because none in Congress (or at least a very few) understand what they are supposed to be doing there. Most of them do not know what this country nor government is supposed to stand for.
I personally feel they are about to get an education!
But Egilman, you forget that individual members of Congress are elected directly by the people, and their views reflect the views of their constituents. If Ron Paul is incapable of working with others and getting fellow Congressmen to follow his ideas, then I'm sorry, he cannot be considered fit to be a leader.
Mr. A,
You see that is the fallacy, Most of the Representatives in the House, in all of Congress for that matter, do NOT represent the views of their constituents.
I KNOW what they are voted in for, and that is to do what their constituency elected them to do, and none of them ACTUALLY do. Dr Paul does, this is why he took a formerly overwhelmingly democrat district in Texas and gets re-elected by landslides when he runs.....
Because he does what the people ELECTED him to do. I wish the rest did the same.
But my point is that if Ron Paul actually wanted to get the things he wanted done, he would work with his fellow Congressmen to find common ground and as a result sponsor bills he actually sees getting passed. Let's face it, Americans do not want extreme policies. Most Americans do not want the income tax or medicare to be eliminated, and most Americans want the United States to keep some kind of foreign presence.
Ron Paul should acknowledge that, and realize that if he wants to get stuff done, he should work with his fellow congressmen to get them done. This kind of "hard-core principles" is a problem that I see with the far left as well. If Ron Paul stood up for his "principles", he would be happy with a bill that got 75% of what he wanted and then work afterwords to get the remaining 25% done.
Dr. Paul was once asked the question of how as a president he would work with a divided congress. His only response was "If congress embodies the constitution, then I will get things passed". This isn't an answer, since it assumes that everyone will come to the same conclusion as him.
Ms. Brewer's endorsement doesn't impress me one bit. Neither does Mr. Romney. In fact, none of these four candidates give me anything to vote for, as all they seem to do is tear each other down. What would they do about the important stuff? Get your minds out of the bedrooms and into the real issues, please.
Mr. A,
With all due respect, I was taught that this is not standing up for your principals, this is compromising your principals. Compromising your personal principals leads to corruption.
I think what you are trying to say is compromise the issue, which Dr Paul is quite willing to do as long as constitutional requirements are upheld. His personal principle is that the Constitution should be consulted before any issue is considered or passed, he is a strict constitutionalist.
But he can easily compromise as long as the principle is upheld. In other words no compromise for compromises sake, no ends justify the means.
Take his position on the recent contraception/abortion issue, understanding that he is a doctor who tends women's issues as his specialty, For women's health the issues of contraception/abortion should be without question something between a woman, her doctor and her god. But we also know that he does believe in life begins at conception. The pill is needed not because it imparts any right, but because it is a tool, in this manner the pill should not be restricted from use. But as a tool, it does not excuse bad behavior nor should it be used to enable bad behavior.
Those are two very powerful issue compromises that do not cross his personal principles.
This is why he would respond that if the congress works within the constitution he will get his issues heard and passed. WHY? you might ask, because he will LEAD, he will not be pushed around, but he will not bully either, he will lead.
We, his followers see him as a leader because of his principles.
Mr Anon#2.26: I share your disgust with the constant chattering by those who support one particular republican candidate over another one. It is like they are all arguing about which one is the least "dead". Dead they all are. It is time for all good republicans to join in the requiem chant of their honor, even if they have to hold their noses during the solemnity. Regards
Good try Egilman, But I ask for an actual vote that was for the people. Just name me one. Tell me briefly what the what bill was about and how he voted. Should be easy. Go check out his voting record like I did and find me one vote Ron Paul made for the people.
I don't count tax cuts for the rich 1% or any other vote he made for the rich as for the people.
I thought he was for the people being against war until I came across the bill that the Democrats brought to the floor to try and end the Iraq war, at least set a time table. Well Mr. Pacifist Ron Paul voted against the democrats and voted with the republicans to keep the war going with no end in sight. That was my first clue that what comes out of his mouth does not match his voting record.
AF,
You saw it you name it?
And I will go check it out and report back here before morning, right now is 6:10pm PST, before 6:10am PST....
PS: you don't have to give me a link, just the house short title will do, I have access to look it up in it's entirety...
Egilman, the idea that compromising leads to corruption is a falacy. As a Representative, it's excusable for a man to be unwilling to compromise. As a leader, who is supposed to reflect the entire nation, he has to appeal to moderates.
Let's say he wins the Presidency in 2012. And let's say the Republicans take the Senate, but not to the extent that they have a Supermajority, since there are some Democrats who have closer views to Paul then Republicans.
Now let's look at the issue of taxation. Paul wants the top tax bracket, at most, to be 10% (that itself is a "compromise" from him; previously he has said that he wants it to be 0%). Santorum, Romney, and Gingrich all at least want it to be 15%. It's reasonable that his congress, which will have to compromise for the partially Democratic Senate, will pass a bill that lowers the top rate to 20%. Will he veto this? I find it unlikely that his congress would pass a bill that eliminates most taxes completely.
Another issue: Medicare/Medicaid. Remember that Paul Ryan's plan, which turned Medicare into a private program subsidized by the government, was considered extreme by many moderates. Paul however does not want Medicare to exist at all, since it is not spelled out by the Constitution. Because of this, it is likely that by the end if his term Medicare will exist in its normal form.
For other issues like drug legalization, he has rather few supporters in Congress. Remember, we've had a President like Ron Paul before: Grover Cleveland. Cleveland vetoed more bills than any other President, which lead to nothing being done at all. As a result, when a bad recession came about, the government was unable to respond, and people suffered without any aid.
It's also of note that many of Paul's removals of federal agencies rely on individual states to fill in for the gap. But there are key sources of spending that are import at a federal level in order to aid poorer states like Mississippi. Examples of these are education and infrastructure. Ron Paul would cut off federal spending to key interstate high speed rail programs. I don't know about you, but in my home state of Washington, it would be nice to have quick transporation from Vancouver, B.C. to Portland, Oregan.
By the end of his term, Ron Paul would get rather little of what he wants done, and it's likely that as a result of an unwillingness to compromise on certain issues, we will have government shutdowns like we did in the '90s. The things he can do include removal of important regulations. Federal-level regulations are important, because as said, at a state-level there may not be enough money to ensure the same quality of food and water as other states.
Romney was ahead ..until .. The Donald endorsed him ... now Jan has put the final nail in his coffin ..another endorsement like this will certainly cause Mitt to move to Canada with his dog ..What ever happened to that poor dog ..Mitt got it to Canada but apparently never brought it back .. did the dog know somethng we dont
Ryan-WI:
The reason for Paul's low numbers is that less than 15% of Americans can actually read and think, politicians not aside. Except for Paul, I never met a politician I liked/trusted.
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If Nitmit Rummy is the best the republicans can do, they are a superfluous party of losers.
This is what I hate about Ron Paul supporters. It's not just that they give poor reasons to support him, but they hold him at the level of a God, as if he can do no wrong and that anyone who doesn't support him is an idiot. Just look at this level of elitism.
I have voted for the Republican candidate for President 8 of the 10 times I voted (exceptions McGovern in '72 and John Anderson in '80). All I can say is that if Sanatorum or Ginrich get the nomination I will vote for Obama. Santorum and Gingrich are too far to the right to suit me (heck even Romney is to my right today). Only Romney has a chance in the fall and even that is fading as the Republicans throw mud at each other and the economy improves.
US Congress vote data base ... is where you can find on how all member of congress vote. It seems to go back a few years.
Yeah, Ron Paul the fake libertarian. He is for individual rights and freedom unless you are a woman then he thinks it is his right to decide for others even those he never met you and he doesn't know the whole circumstances.
Appears the right has set their sights on getting rid of birth control for religious reasons in our state/church separated government.
Too bad republicans don't believe in that part of the constitution.
Jan "The Man" Brewer is endorsing Mittens for President? Well, get over it! At least we know who is wearing the pants in that political family and is isn't Romney.
Ron Paul also proposed a bill to light up the dark side of the moon with a huge neon sign saying - "ALIENS GO HOME" and just like his other legislative pipe dreams, it failed. Ron Paul has accomplished ZERO! Ralph Nader, the self deprecating lawyer has made a more significant impact on society from the courtroom than Ron Paul has from the House floor. Quite frankly "Dr." Paul is a joke and his supporters need to go back to playing board games in Middle Earth and quoting, of all people for God's sake, Thomas Aquinas the mental equivalent, among philosophers, of Dr. Oz among brain surgeons.
Americans First-3238795- It's people like you who anger me to such an intense degree. I have to restrain myself from shouting vulgar words at you because of the personal loss and slavery myself, my children, and loved ones will all endure because of uneducated people like YOU!
I'm so tired of Big Brother staring down my back. I'm tired of people like you voting to help these wars continue, further bankrupting future generations to come. I'm tired of you telling me what I can and can't put in my body. I'm tired of EVERYTHING being illegal. This government is so corrupt, so mixed with big business and banks, and people like you lead all the sheep right into the slaughter.
I am so fearful for our future. We are so indebted, so hated in the world, so @!$%#ED, and people like you have the nerve to come along and say we should stay on that path. The Founding Fathers explicitly warned against certain things that we are completely ignoring.
You obviously are either brainwashed or have such a fundamental misunderstanding of history and Republican government. The people who are talking like you are the people who told us Iraq would last a few weeks. The people who tell us we should look under our beds for the terrorists, and that elect leaders who constantly take our liberties away.
Soon we will wake up with no freedoms, no liberties, no rights. We will be slaves to debt. I fear for everyone and their right to their life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
Mr. A,
You obviously didn't read my post very carefully, or in the alternative, you didn't comprehend it. either way you response misstates what I said to you.
I said,
You Said, in response,
I also said,
And went on to say,
After this you went on a political rant that doesn't apply to the point of the discussion, typical arguments from liberals that bash what they are unwilling to or incapable of discussing with any intelligence.
So basically you are trying to bait me into an argument over your opinions about issues that don't matter. Why don't they matter? Because you have already taken the position that he will not win, that the president will clean his clock in any election, and that he would be a disaster for the country.
I believe he can win, just like you think the president can win, As far as cleaning his clock, he's consistantly the only republican on the ticket that polls even with the president in the swing states, and finally, yes he will be a disaster to the huge bloated government that you Democrats and your menshes the Neo-cons have built.
I'm old enough to know when not to fall into such a trap as you are setting. Opinion arguments are nothing but speculation wrapped up in emotional bluster. I offered substantive discussion, you counter with political diatribe, I was hoping for better, but, unfortunately, got the same old same old seen everyday on the vine. I don't fall for such bullcrap tactics.
Have a nice day.
AF,
this is what you said.....
This is a good example of throwing the red meat on the table....
This is what I said,
What I said means that I will take that red meat and cook it, I threw your challenge right back in your face and said prove it?
Your response?
Which I told you I would go to, post the link here for everyone to see, all you had to do was provide the bill number........
Did you provide a bill number that can be searched? (the database goes back over two decades, at least the one I use does)
NOOOO!
All you did was launch into some pointless ranting diatribe....
And other useless baseless emotional rants.
Which simply means you didn't have a bill number in the first place.
Exposed! Your whole statement was made up baseless crap!
Game Set Match
You have a nice day also.
Mr. A, @2.48
Just like you liberal democrats spout off over Obama, like he's god's gift to America if only the Republicans would get out of the way so he can fix EVERYTHING!!!!
So, looking at what you posted here, in your opinion the President is an elitist also, Thank you for clarifying that.
Have a nice day....
So Romney has Donald Trump AND Jan Brewer? Well, the other candidates should probably just throw in the towel! <rolling eyes>
I endorse Jan Brewer for Chief Nut at the Nut House.
Of COURSE Jan Brewer endoresed Romney.
In these semi-enlightened times, hypocritical bigots need to stick together.
Arizona Governor Jan Brewer attended Glendale Community College in California where she received a radiological technologist certificate
Well, that explains a lot. I thought Governor Otis was just drunk.
Perhaps her behavior is merely the product of a tiny brain irradiated to the point of extra-crispiness.
Being the lady she is, the Arizona Governor simply endorsed her preference of being beaten with a mop handle over a shovel handle. She didn't consider Newt, because She knew that would mean being beaten with the shovel end. That lady was pulled green, and never allowed to ripen. I guess I don't blame her.
Egilman, I was not trying to make a point about Paul's electability, or whether his positions are "right". I'm trying to legitimately ask his supporters (you) how exactly he will pass legislation. Let's ignore everything I said about regulations. I got sidetracked there.
Once again, imagine a President Ron Paul. Let's look at the issue of Gitmo. A key thing here: I agree with him on this; Gitmo should be closed. The problem is, with a Republican congress, how will he be able to get it closed? Remember, Obama tried to close Gitmo as well using executive order. However, even though he had a Democratic congress, the House and Senate both voted against him with a Veto-proof majority. What is my point? Obama worked with other ways to make military trials fairer, giving defendents access to lawyers and ending torture. Is this necessarily enough? No. But Obama has been unable to do more. How will Ron Paul be able to do more, when he will have a congress who is Republican?
OK, let's imagine that Congress is Democratic, and the Democrats are all "good Democrats" and Gitmo gets closed once and for all. But the Democrats completely disagree with Paul on economic issues. The result will be several instances of government shutdown. I'm sure you and I (and probably Dr. Paul himself) agree that there are some important functions of the federal government that might be in danger (for example, the Smithsonian).
What I'm trying to say is, even though Dr. Paul may have very good stances on some issues, there aren't enough people running for Congress in 2012 who agree with his whole set of policies. In the following posts I'll actually go through my issues with some of his ideas, and also talk about why I don't think he will be able to get elected. However, this post is about the problem of whether he will be able to get anything done.
Now, onto Ron Paul's electability:
Regardless of whether you are far left or far right or far in whatever direction libertarianism is, Americans as a whole prefer moderates. Milt Shook of PCTC does a good way of summing this up: (http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/2012/02/politics-101-for-the-far-left-better-government-winning-elections.html)
Now, Shook is a left wing blogger, and he is obviously addressing liberals, but his general message still holds. If you want, you can replace every instance of "progressive" or "democratic" with "libertarians". What he is trying to say is something like this:
Now, the problem is Ron Paul has not demonstrated a level of moderation. His foreign policy is farther left than most Democrats, while his economic policy is farther right than most Republicans. To make comparisons, if Obama was extreme left, he would be talking about single-payer health insurance and gay marriage at a federal level and things like this. But he is not. Similarly, Bush was in favor of Civil Unions, and he kept the highest income tax bracket higher than his father and Reagan had it.
I'll post my actual issues with him in a bit. Right now though, I would like to say that I have nothing personal against Ron Paul or his supporters. I actually respect Dr. Paul himself, and I think his supporters are more intelligent than most of the Republicans here I have seen.
Mr. Anon- thank you for your respectful comments. I myself am a Ron Paul supporter.
1. The result of a democratic vote will always be somewhere in them middle.
This is partly where the problem lies. Being in the middle is what's causing us so many problems. We are a warfare welfare state, and it's bankrupting us. This is why Ron Paul supporters call it a Revolution. We're bringing us back to our conservative roots that the Founding Fathers talked about. We can't compromise, because compromise loses. We may not win this election, but we're awakening a whole new generation of politically intelligent college students who know and respect the Constitution.
As far as legislation being passed. Paul is not about passing legislation, but about repealing it. If you know anything about what's going on, the government is passing WAY too many laws and regulations. Watch this interesting video to learn about it (I know, I hate Fox News too, but the guy doing it is actually a Libertarian)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBiJB8YuDBQ
He also can help control the budget to a huge degree because he would be commander and chief of the armed forces.
A fruitcake backing up a clown.
Another scintillating example of the dem wit..
Janus: at least the dems have a sense of humor. All these teapugs actually believe what comes out of their collective mouths.
Janus 00234, you can still collect your Social Security entitlements in Costa Rico. We'll be seeing you on SRO's list again very soon. Bon Voyage rereg! ;-)
Spoken like a true idiot!
If social security is a welfare entitlement I would like a check for all the money I have put into it so I can invest it and actually get more out of my retirement, k thanks republicans.
The worst recession in decades and Santorum focus on women's uterus ?
"Rick's wife had a six + year affair with a Abortion doctor, could this be his problem" ???
Hey, I appreciated mike277's comment. just don't understand his denigrating himself as a fruitcake and obama as a clown?
Doesn't she know that Mitt's father is a Mexican? As soon as she finds out, she is going to have the birthing BS put on him!
Nice to see Governor of Az. endorse Mitt. Would like to see her promote pictures of her pointing
her finger at obama at the airport. Msnbc the brain dead network for obama, says she was
showing disrespect to the presidency. But I think obama has shown enough disrespect
to presidency and office, by apologizing for America all over the world and becoming a outlaw
against the U.S. Constitution. Like Mitt said: obama should stop apologizing for America, and
apologize to Americans for his lack of leadership. obama being a two bit stage actor isn't
real leader. A real leader takes responsibility for mistakes.
i'm sure she has a lot of sway!!!
she can probably deliver what, 3 or 4 votes with her opinion??
who cares??? i mean, really, who cares what she thinks??
her opinion means about as much as trump's!!
RD-889126, taking responsibility for mistakes made MEANS apologizing, that is if you're a well-mannered individual and ADULT, or doesn't President Bush apologizing to China for a U.S. military plane entering their air space and landing in their country count? BTW, we didn't get that plane back until it was disassembled and sent back in pieces. Ooops! Next.
I'd like to see Santorum supporters defend this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/26/santorum-church-and-state_n_1302246.html?1330274673&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009 . DB Akron, where are you?
Mike 277 said,
"A fruitcake backing up a clown."
Is this like your backing Obama... yeah, a fruitcake backing a clown!! I see it... got it!!
Does mommy know you're on the computer...
pathetic just pathetic... what a loser!!
You think she thinks???????
My guess is that the Corrections Corporation of America told her who to endorse. After all, she's THEIR puppet. They own her.
Definitely will not vote for him if he makes it with her endorsing him.
Rick Santorum supported abortion rights over a more conservative anti-abortion in the Pennsylvania GOP primary, is this flip flopping or what. Ricko pleaded for forgiveness and said it was a mistake. Well I think Rick would be a Big Mistake and what a Phony he is, sad we have people like this in our Country. Its scary this clown is running for President of the United States of America. Rick Santorum is a Loser.
If you are a single issue voter, you should be expatriated. And the clown is already president.
Are you talking about Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, or Rick Santorum? Because it's kind of hard to tell with a comment like that.
If he can get Sharon Anggle, it's a lock.
Oops. Sharron Angle. Now it's a lock.
Because after his family fled to Mexico so they could practice polygamy safely outside the legal jurisdiction of the USA, he wouldn't want anyone thinking he likes Mexico. Best way to keep a lid on that kind of thing is to pretend that it is illegal to be a Mexican or of Mexican ancestry.
What a hypocrite (but nothing new there).
Crazy beach....yawn.
The woman is a idiot,only Napolatano had any sense in my last 20 years in this foolish state of watching Governors.
How would you know, you can't even spell her name?
close enough DB.
"Totally bewitching" ...........Anggle ?
Watch it Sunil, the snotty English Teachers are out in force today.
Janet sucked the state dry of money with accounting gimmicks than skipped town. Asked to help the state fight illegal aliens and we got knothing.She is as dumb as a rock.
The DNC and the GOP are merely competing wings of the SAME Party. It's us, especially the youth, against the Establishment. Meaningful differences between the two parties have not existed since perhaps the Clinton era, but even then it was mostly for show. If we continue to think in terms of party, our successes will be few and in the grand scope of things, of little value. A mere renovation will have no substantial impact on the current political environment. In 2008 the GOP handed victory to Obama on a silver platter, this was not incompetence but collusion. Should a Republican or a Democrat win the presidency in 2012, it matters not, unless of course the Republican is Ron Paul. It's not called the Ron Paul Revolution for nothing. Old habits do indeed die hard.
Derek,
You could not be more incorrect the Democrats bear very little resemblance to the Republicans outside of an indebtedness to corporations and campaign bundlers. Look at not only today but the history of the two parties since 1932. You will find that anything remotely resembling progress did not start on the Right side of the aisle. Look at the demographic of who makes up the two parties and look at their driving issues and their is literally no resemblance. It is easy to say they are the same thing and some find it marginally witty but it is not in any meaninful way true.
Ron Paul on the other hand is truely different and more of his attitude on foreign policy could be a good thing. However virtually all of his goals are extrordinary simplifications of very complex problems. Many of his solutions economically would change many areas of America into urban and rural Calcuttas. His defining influence in establishing a philosophy was Murray Rothbard a self proclaimed anarchocapitalist (he coined the term) and if you read his work, Ayn Rand, Ludwig VonMises and Fredrick Heyak who advocate positions which would return the world to 1900. His states rights positions would either dissolve the union or make us 3 or 4 regional interest groups with no coherent social or economic policies. He is not about limiting government he is about ending it and always has been. He is a Libertarian Radical who is essentially incapable of compromise.
jkh
Jim,
Appreciate the thoughtful response but I truly believe this country is headed, has been heading and will continue to head towards the path of fascism, corportasm, and socialism with the aid of government growing. Ron Paul will not be able to eleminate all government as president but he can stop the erosion of the American peoples rights and give the small business owner a fighting chance again. Much of the FDA and other government agencies have colluded with big business and are even ran by ex big business people who write laws not in favor of the smaller "competition". This is not free market capitalism at all, just the decimation of the middle class.
The US needs this balance and I feel Ron Paul is the only one offering it.
Derek,
I am retired at 56 mostly due to health reasons but I was a small business owner for 25 years and am able to live comfortably due to the decisions I made during that time. I can in all honesty say that government and taxation had little to do with my ability to earn a living. The overwhelming difficulties came from the lack of regulation of industry particularly the insurance industries and the credit industries. I began my business in 1985 and it would have been easier for me to dump construction materials in unregulated sites and more difficult inspections of vehicles cost me money. Things like asbestos removal or oil tank disposal had to be accounted for when placing a bid and I am sure others willing to ignore the existence of such things got work that I might have been contracted to perform. These things were trivial in comparison to the cost of doing business with unregulated industry. My tax rates other than property and school taxes were lower in 2010 than they were in 1985, OSHA and the EPA if anything were far less stringently enforced than in the 90s local enforcement usually depends on who is inspecting, your relationship and the reputation of your business. Because I regularly complied with L&I I did not often have inspectors looking for items like lead piping, asbestos or air conditioning units and when they did we were in compliance. What made business almost impossible to conduct was not unions, wages or regulation it was trying to provide affordable health insurance and to secure credit.
The examples of this being that in 1985 group health insurance through blue cross blue shield for an employee his wife and one dependent cost me $165 per month in 2010 it cost me $780 and the coverage was not remotely as good and had a $20 employee copay. My liability and auto and business insurances doubled with my total costs mostly driven by health insurance going from an average of $2,500 per employee per year to almost $12,000 dollars. When health insurance was a non profit we were competitive with the rest of the world when it became market based we all got screwed. In 2005 - 2006 I had over $1,000,000 in accessible credit at an average of about 7% by 2007- 2008 my access was restricted to about $100,000 at 13-15% although I was doing more business at the same profit margin with the exact same assets if not less. From 2000 through 2006 I couldn't go a week without a lender encouraging me to borrow money to expand my business but I couldn't get one to take my calls once the#$@#$ hit the fan.
Ron Paul would eliminate all corporate restrictions and if you lived in Alabama and they decide to dump raw sewage, eliminate the minimum wage or allow fertlizer runoff he would say hey that's up to them. If a business chooses not to provide services to someone because they don't like whites or blacks,Muslims, Christians or Jews that is allright with him too. He believes firmly and has said and written it in many ways that the Framers intended most power to reside in the states although the majority were federalists and even Jefferson showed an enormous willingness to exert Federal Power and primacy when he saw fit such as The Louisiana Purchase and that he is a believer in nullification and that the Supreme Court should have very limited power in setting aside state law. Electing someone based on the assumption that he will only be able to carry out the sane parts of his agenda is a poor way to pick a candidate.
jkh
Jim Hayes- That was one hell of a GREAT post!!! I mean one of the best posts I have ever read on Newsvine!!! Thank You!
No time for a long response but a lot of the "problems" you listed would be solved in the courts through property rights, so there would still be law left in the land to whomever is harmed would be made whole through the culprits pocket books. And to insinuate a lot of Paul's agenda is insane is ridiculous, if a Jewish establishment does not want a certain person into their establishment that should be fine,we as a society would boycott this establishment, can't rely on the federal government to do everything for you even if you think its right.
Derek,
Returning US government to pre-Depression standards is pretty much insane. Stating publicly that if an employer decides that women don't deserve equal pay is pretty much crazy. Regarding things like Medicaire he would not accept it as a physician and believes it should be abolished at least for those less than 55 yrs of age leaving in ten years as many as 100 million Americans uninsured. He is a huge proponent of the Austrian School of Economics on which he has based his entire philosophy. it is an economic theory that believes markets are subject to a seies of indefiniable influenced and that the traditional NeoClassical approach need to be rejected and that the basic understanding of economic systems other than theirs are 100% wrong. They blather on about Subjectivism as if they invented the term claim that utility theory is baseless and that economics are completely ruled by human behavior and preference and reject mathematical modeling. Most amazingly they view competition in a vaccuum as if a developed economy can compete with an entirely unregulated state supported hybrid economy like Chinas.
The economics he calls for woul make Reaganomics look like Communism leading to a regional economic alliances much like the country as it existed during The Articles of Confederations. Perhaps we will agree on some other issues I enjoy the tenor of your posts.
jkh
Governors tend to stick together, but the endorsement won’t necessary help Romney. Just ask Romney about Haley’s endorsement in SC. It's the arrogant attitude that only a former executive can be a good President. But after what we have seen the last three years, that argument may have legitimacy.
Or Pawlenty's in MN. He was no help at all.
Yeah, we need a business executive to run this country. Let's see...who should we look to? The guys who ran Bear Stearns? How about the guys who ran Enron, or Lehman Brothers, or Countrywide, or Tyco, or Chrysler? Remember that great governor/business exec. Georgie Bush? The idea that we need to run our government like a business is a fascist canard.
No Road Warrior, what we've seen over the last year from the tea people GOP Koch republican governors is a good argument that a tea people GOP Koch republican governor would make a lousy president. Take George W Bush for example. Worst President ever.
Mo,
LOL....Bush would not have been a Tea Party candidate or president. He spent like Obama. He loved war like Obama. He gave corporate bailouts like Obama. He gave no-bid contracts to Halliburton like Obama. He gave us Gitmo and Obama kept it open. He gave us the Patriot Act and Obama renewed it. He gave the tax cuts for the rich and Obama extended it. He gave us the Medicare pescription drug act. Obama gave us ObamaCare. Bush gave us $4 gas and Obama is trying to outdo him.
The TEABAGS in congress, have PROVEN to be nothing more than BIG WINDBAGS! The middle of the road American's will NOT FALL for their tricks again!!
Lol, I think I have another of your posts dated Nov. 1 2010 that said the same thing.
You know the day before the election where the entitlement set took the worst electoral fanny kicking in 70 years.
What possible obsession would cause you to save posts? You do know that people have the right to their own opinions without harassment from teabaggers like you?
Attention everybody! Janus is a GOPher TROLL!!
Yep, IT is keeping a log of everybody's post!!! Nov. 1, 2010?! So how much is the RNC/Koch's organiztions paying you dude!?! hahahahaha!!!!
Janus they took this as a mandate to do anything they wanted to America.
The republicans were promising jobs and after elected stated going after voting rights, women's rights, union rights, health care, food stamps, education.
All this overreach has led to mass demonstrations and re-calling Scott Walker the poster child for republicans (Koch brothers) thinking they have the right to take away the rights of the people.
The elections in 2010 only proved you can never trust a republican. This time their goal is end birth control and college education. For some odd reason the more educated don't generally vote for republicans.
For the love of America, Obama/Biden 2012
Americans First - The GOP has proved they don't like women; don't respect us; don't believe we should have any rights; we're just there to be used by them. What I don't understand is why any sane woman would vote for the GOP. Oh, wait maybe I just answered that - SANE!
Interesting that the tea party has had such an influence in controlling American politics over the past 14 months. At least if we listen to the FR left wing fools that is.
As I recall, the rights intentions of job creation was to minimize government meddling. With the gridlock of 2011 and the growing economy (albeit slow) seems that that philosophy is working.
"Jo-an, I second that." The Tea Retards are destroying the GOP.
Sanity,
Hillary Clinton was by far the best qualified Democrat candidate in 2008, but Democrats weren't about to hand the White House to a woman. After Bush, the nation was primed for a Democrat and woman president. There won't be another opportunity like that for a long time.
Seeking sanity - Really? The right doesn't like women? How droll. Of course we don't. There are no republican women CEO's, broadcasters, sports figures, actresses, governors, congressional members, entrepreneurs, small business owners, educational leaders, etc.
BTW - since your handle suggest that you are not sane and your post suggest that conservative minded women are sane, perhaps you should look into going conservative.
Road Warrior, what about Palin-just joking" But she can see Russia from her house, now that's cool ?
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American, have you been following the Virginia news lately? That probe idea was not good for women (sarcastic understatement). So, seeking sanity is right.
You all seem kind of unhappy and nasty.All i saw the tea party ask for was some fiscal sanity,to remember this thing called the constitution.
I dont see what you all see in our president he is actually worse than Jimmy Carter,i didnt think it was possible but he is.
Justsaying - I repeat, Are there no women GOP CEO's, governors, actresses, members of congress, broadcaster's, sports figures, entrepreneurs, school administrators, teachers, professors, economists, small business owners, voters, mom's, etc?
What part of that don't you and seeking understand? None of the above would exist if republicans didn't like/respect women. Try and argue it anyway you like and it still won't change the end result because you can't show that all republicans don't like/respect women.
Just saying, so now you are saying that a woman shouldn't be given the opportunity to have all health information available prior to an abortion? Or are you referring to something else when you reference the virginia probe and drawing the erroneous conclusion that republicans don't respect/like women?
Yet the candidates they back routinely adopt policies of fiscal INsanity, and trample on the Constitution at every turn.
Republicans hate women and republican women are self loathing morons.
heard a mental health professional this weekend talking about the anger, vitriole on blogs like this. He made a very interesting statement. He said when people feel unsure about their position that's when they turn to name calling. i think that fits for the Libs on here as Obama is so weak they have no other way to defend him. And, it fits with the Saul Alinsky teaching of making up things about your opponent to deflect from yourself. I feel sorry for you folks that you have so little self-respect that you present yourselves as hate-mongerers. I do always find it interesting that if you're SO proud of the trash you write here, why don't you use your real names?
Ron,
Okay, so please then explain to me how government mandated transvaginal ultrasounds, domestic espionage, disregarding the jurisdiction of the federal government, drug testing without probable cause or even crimes being committed and allowing religion to dictate contract law is "limited government" and returning us to the bounds of the Constitution...
Now that should be s big help to Romney. NOT!
Its worse than Trump, at least he is someone no one cares about that has money to give him.
"Dangerous call and crazy as a Bat" Conservative values ?
Congrats, Mitt. You've got the endorsement of the dumbest governor in America. And that's a title with some serious competition. Every other word out of her mouth is "uhh...umm", even when giving a brief one sentence prepared statement. When asked why, she says absolutely nothing of substance.
You are so right. A well written and delivered speech with substance is just so much worse than a steady stream of vapid stammering. I wish all politicians could debate like Brewer. She makes Rick Perry seem eloquent and informed: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38981701/ns/politics-decision_2010/t/arizona-governor-stumbles-during-debate/
It's astounding that the people of Arizona could make such a foolish decision to elect her. Just reinforces my standing policy of avoiding any state whose name begins with an 'A'.
@Nathan,
I have imposed economic sanctions on the Red States. They will not get my money unless absolutely necessary.
Agreed, the red states have by far the most amount of people on welfare and take the most federal assistance, until they put their people to work, cut the red hypocrites off. They are the ones claiming not to like welfare. They are the most in welfare and the worst in education, oh wait thats right, education is one big conspiracy to teach children to think freely and not follow the Christian Taliban...
Vote Santorum-Where fascism meets Taliban!
Marinmom and jan - I can live with that. I see that you really like confirming to us all that the LW is against the poor, disabled and elderly of the red states. Talk about wanting to throw America under the bus in promoting a one party system. Selfish lefties!
Jan, "Hush Hush" ! Don't let the cat out of the bag ?
american-2051576, don't you think it's kinda funny (strange) that the GOP heads of those Red States are espousing the end of 'social programs' when all it will do is hurt those in their OWN States, and their voter base eats it up like poisoned pudding without fail? Who is throwing them under the bus are their OWN representatives. Just another GOP twist of problems their mouths start but without a REAL solution, no different than anything else they do.
fantomdog - and those social programs are?
Since state and local government can't print money, but only borrow via bonds or raise revenue through taxation are you implying that red states need only to borrow more or raise taxes? That sure has worked out well for california and illinois, hasn't it?
The bane of the left is in thinking that social programs take precedence over everything else and naturally someone else (not themselves) pay for it.
Isn't it sweet to know that by not considering the long term financial sustainability of programs just means that funds that could be spent on such programs are diverted through government inefficiency, waste and interest payments. Naturally, such a lack of looking forward can be attributed to both parties but progressives and liberals sure do like spending OPM more so than conservatives.
So fantomdog, don't you find it kinda funny (strange) that liberal/progressives think that there is enough money (less theirs) in our economy to support the wish lists of everyone who wants a government handout, social or otherwise?
This should help Mitt tremendously. After all, who wouldn't want a finger wagging, road raging, rude, ignorant, b***h supporting them? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Obama 2012!!
Hey Filthy, why do you support O'BowMao? Do you cash a welfare check every week?
adm, sorry. It's the red states using the most welfare now. In fact, the redder the state, the more the welfare (see Mississippi).
You better find a different drum to beat.
I support President Obama for many reasons.
1. He has not signed on with Norquist and the republicans in destroying America. It was no accident that the republicans blocked every bill that would create jobs for America.
2. He thinks the rich, like himself, should pay a bit more in taxes so we as a country don't have to take from the poorest most needy. While Romney tax plan raise taxes on the poor to pay for more tax cuts for himself.
3. He is not into dumb wars.
4. He thinks we all deserve health care, not just the rich.
5. President Obama wants to protect our drinking water. What good is all that fracking energy if there are not people left to enjoy it. You can live weeks without food, but only a couple days without water.
6. President Obama wants to protect the air we breathe.
7. President Obama thinks we all should have a chance at the American dream.
8. President Obama wants to strengthen social security.
9. President Obama doesn't go around talking about trees being the right height like an idiot.
10. President Obama doesn't believe that corporation are people.
11. President Obama is not trying to force the country into Catholic Sharia law of allowing no one birth control.
12. President Obama supports a woman's right to decide for herself about her own body. Like me who would never want to have an abortion, I don't think it is my right to decide for someone else who I don't know and have no ideal of the circumstances.
13. President Obama has not support the person-hood amendment.
14. President Obama has not vowed to overturn Roe v Wade.
15. President Obama wants more regulations on Wall Street so they won't be allowed to rob our country again unlike the republicans who supports Wall Street robbing us again with deregulation.
16. Last but not least, President Obama is not a republican.
And on and on ............................
Obama/Biden 2012
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Great governor endorses Great Governor. Congrats Mitt! the more endorsements you get, that's prove you're the best. Go Mitt Romney. 2012
Staneve.... anybody with an OUNCE of SENSE know you are spewing Faux news B.S. Either that you are another Janus..... TROLL. LOL!!!!
Americans first... LMAO on your post. I will just use one of your treatises for supporting obama.
3. He is not into dumb wars.
Really? He wanted us to stay in Iraq, Iraq told him to abide by the SOFA that bush signed. So now you feel Iraq military involvement was smart.
We are still in Afghanistan, so that is also a smart war?
100+ tomahawk missiles into libya, followed by military support for air to ground attacks in support of libyan rebels in defiance of the UN resolution to just create a no fly zone.
Combat ready troops sent into Uganda. Only time will tell us on this being smart or not.
At least for now syrian and iranian intervention seems to be off the table
OMG 2012 - Obama Must Go 2012
Ron Paul adocates the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, limited government, liberty for individuals, lower taxes, sound monetary policy, states' rights, and nonintervention ism in both foreign and domestic policy.
The other puppet GOP presidential candidates and Obummer advocate the status quo, which means usurping the Constitution, bankrupting the US economy, continuous senseless preemptive wars in which innocent women and children are murdered, and endorsing gestapo laws such as the Patriot Act and the NDAA that infringe on the liberty of the populace.
Can you say "no-brainer?"
Ron Paul, 2012!
When Obama took office, you just can't yank troops out of Iraq & Afg. so lets put the blame squarely on the shoulders that should bare that weight for 9+ years of entrapment and that is GEORGE W. BUSH, DICK CHANEY AND DONAL RUMSFELD for going around rousing the American sentiment post 9/11, taking advantage of American misunderstanding of the middle east and misleading the American people on #1) WMD, that clearly were far from development,#2 That Islamic extremism is all one entity, throwing Al-quad and Sadam in the same movement, which was furthest from the truth, so American 2051576, you are way off on Iraq & Afg. In addition the +2 trillion and no revenue to pay for it since Bush tax breaks were in effect at the same time. And there again, were all suppose to believe the ole Rep. Paul Ryan rhetoric that the problem with the debt in the U.S. falls squarely on entitlements?!?!, I don't think so.
Every time I look at this women I can't really think of anything other than her deformed mouth. Jeez lady can't you afford a decent set of dentures?
Wow, what an irrelevant comment. Sounds like Obama making fun of the Special Olympics.
Wow, what a moronic analogy. Sounds like Newt Gingrich condemning Clinton's immorality.
No Road Warrior, what an irrelevant governor. You do remember the time at a news conference she was trying to list all her accomplishments and there was about a minute of aw hmm giggling, she never could remember any of her accomplishments she finally said "well we got a lot of things done", kinda brain dead like most tea people GOP Koch republicans.
Bluelake,
Physical appearance and less than exceptional athletic ability are two characteristics one is born with and cannot be helped. Adultery is a choice. Apple and oranges. You should be ashamed making fun of a woman’s looks.
Road Warrior-252445: It is what it is, Jan Brewer is in the same situation that Sarah Palin was in except that Palin did not have deep cave's on her face and her hair was not beached, I agree with fiesty redhead in that the mummy and Brewer have a lot in common when it comes to looks and being an angry woman does not help her either. Even Herman Cain would run from her.
Road Warrior, you mean like all the nasty things the republicans say about Hillary and Pelosi?
Or how about the republicans who are always making some nasty comment about President Obama's looks?
If you are so offended you should go to a site like faux that only makes nasty comments about Democrats so you can be happy.
Enough about the appearance of a 67-year old woman already. No matter who gets the nomination, Obama is toast and here is why.
An ABC Harris poll taken nine months before the election had Carter beating Reagan 65-31%. Against Bush, Carter would have won 62-32. Then all hell broke lose in the spring. Gas prices skyrocketed. Students who voted for Carter the first time had no jobs. The situation in Iran blew up. Result....Carter lost by 10% and Reagan won 44 states.
See the parallel?
Easy road warrior, stupid libs don't like looking back in time when it doesn't agree with them. Don't forget that reagan won re-election in '84 with a fast moving economic recovery. Then again, reagan had the ability to resonate with the populace be they L, R or independent. Obama can't.
American first - Wonder whose ears stick out the most obamas or ross perot? feel better now?
Speaking about looks, ever read what your fellow FR lefties say about the looks of the right wing candidates or congressional members? I would say that the left is far more interested in denigrating someones looks than the right.
Road Warrior - you don't understand women. That is why you are surprised by the comment, and I'm not.
Bluelake - actually it was moronic for clinton to try saying that having oral sex wasn't really having sex.
Not quite as moronic as Gingrich saying that his patriotic focus on his House speakership led to his affair. Not only are you righties hypocrites, you're incredibly gullible. Meanwhile american, you and Road Warrior just keep telling each other how right you are.
Why make fun of Brewer's choppers when you can make fun of whatever it is that's living on top of Donald Trump head where hair is supposed to be? Birther King Trump has got to win the prize for Willard Mitten's most amusing endorsement.
Interesting comment bluelake, to bad I didn't support gingrich at the iowa caucus. But you sure do like to think so. Now about that hypocrisy thing. How does that work again? It is ok if it is your candidate but wrong for someone else who doesn't agree with you? Gullibility? Isn't that refusing to think for ones self?
american- I hate hypocrisy, but we all have our hypocritical moments. In politicians, however, I find blatant hypocrisy to be disgraceful. It is NOT OK from your candidate or MY candidate. Left, right, republican or democrat. I do not respect or support hypocrites. I despise the person who would tell me: "Do as I say, not as I do." The religious zealot who says: " I don't practice what I preach because I am not the type of person I am preaching to." That is intellectual garbage. And IMO the republican party holds tons of that garbage. The Clinton affair was a perfect example. Willie, thinking with his penis pulled one of the dumbest stunts imaginable and the republicans went ballistic. " Character counts! Immoral behavior! He must resign! Etc. Etc. Then we find out that MANY republicans screaming the loudest are patronizing prostitutes, hunting for homosexual sex in airport bathrooms, screwing their aides and engaging in adulterous sex WHILE they are condemning Clinton. Un-@!$%#ing believable!!! I do not pardon scum like Edwards or other democrats caught with their pants down. I am independent enough to realize we are, after all, just imperfect humans. But seldom do I hear these flawed democrats preaching moral purity and family values while they actually engaged in "immoral" behavior! Republicans do that!
And yes, I think your definition of gullibility is pretty accurate. Refusing or failing to think for one"s self, a lack of critical thinking fairly well describes it. And I know you wont agree but that;s just how the republicans ended up with candidates like Gingrich and Santorum.
"Easy road warrior, stupid libs don't like looking back in time when it doesn't agree with them." - American2051576
Thank you for pointing out how stupid we libs are. I've got some history for you, it's called 2001-2008. Remember these years? I seem to remember 2 wars (1 based on republican manufactured false pretense) while giving tax breaks to the rich, Wall Street deregulation, and economic collapse, all under the leadership of your favorite good 'ol boy Bush (via Cheney from his undisclosed location). The right wing is always blaming this on Obama, because they refuse to remember anything prior to Obama's election.
An argument that I hear more and more frequently is that gas prices have doubled under Obama's leadership. Sure, after the global economy tanked, gas did get below 2.00 a gallon for a few months in 2008. What republicans fail to mention is that earlier in that year, areas of our country had to deal with prices in excess of 4.00 per gallon for the first time in US history.
Your posts about hypocrisy are laughable. The republicans want to return us to the same policies that ruined our economy. The republicans want to hoard all the money for the very few on top while the rest of us suffer. The republicans do not want to help the ordinary citizens of this country. The republicans want to chant their mantra of "less government" while trying to dictate women's rights and what goes on in your bedroom. Democrats aren't asking for entitlements or other people's money, we're asking our government to work for us, the people, not just the corporations.
I supported you Brewer. Are you deaf dumb and blind. Ron Paul is the only way to stop what is going on and get the power back to the states. I am ashamed of you!
Soupson, maybe it's time you guys get her off running your state.
Soupson appears to be betting on Paul, who is running a poor fourth in a four-horse race. Good luck with that.
Ron Paul is not interested in getting power back to the states, he is only interested in getting the power to the 1%.
Check out his voting record, he always votes for the 1% against the people.
Ron Paul doesn't want you to have health care, but he is more than willing to force you to carry any pregnancy to term without birth control with the rest of the republicans for their religion.
A vote for any republican is a vote to end your right to personal freedom.
yeh right...
Yet obama supported the NDAA and continuation of the patriot act. His little "project narwhal" is likely to impact our privacy rights in a rather perverse and far reaching manner. I suggest you also read the article on the strip club sending out unsolicited text messages and the pending law suit posted this weekend.
Since when does wanting to increase the size of federal government with 1-2 thousand page legislation not impact personal freedom in a negative way?
Isn't paul a doctor? Isn't the first tenent of a doctor to do no harm? Do you even engage your brain before you post?
Brewer is one of the worst governors our state has EVER seen!! Her mumbling and fumbling of words says it all. An incompetent Governor who has NO idea what she's doing.
Cool, so now brewer has a speech impediment! Here I thought the FR left was all for the rights of the disabled? Must just be the FR libs posting today that have problems with the disabled, disfigured and the homely.
american-2051576
Her problem isn't with her diction. It's that her mouth doesn't seem to be connected to her brain.
If old Jan bought herself a pair of 'choppers' that fit properly, you might be able to understand her...
Until then she will be known as Ms. Mumbles...
Houston - isn't that a prerequisite for most politicians, L or R as well as feisty and bev?
Oh yes...another fine example of the Republican platform promoting 'small government' and 'keeping government out of our lives'.
They want us to show more documentation to vote too.
What will the Republicans come up with next: Making all Americans have their Social Security numbers tattooed on their wrists?
Go Jan Brewer! GO AWAY.
Her and Sheriff Babeau have a thing going.
Totally agree Kaybee. IT really boggles the mind how these Republicans preach smaller government, yet everything they have out on the table is controlling the people's God given choice.
They also remind of Jerry Springer's show guests, where you have all these wierdos flaunting their embarrassing selves.
Watched "Fair Game" last night. Everybody should see it. Yep, we need to keep in mind the evil that Duhbya/Cheney/Rove/Scooter Libby did to this country. Something the Rethugs have tried to shove under the carpet. Yep never a mention in any of the Rethugs debates!! There were NO WMD. DuhBya's admins under the control of his VP lied to all of us.
jun06 - time for your meds... don't forget to change your foil as well.
Good for her, Romneys the Man to jumpstart this nation again! The economy sucks, gas prices are getting wacko - 'get Obama out of there'! The president has been on a Holiday for over three years now! Give the somehow revered king another cracker jack box medal and send him on his merry way.
Hey dummy it is your precious fatass Republicans who are doing what you are complaining about so your idea of a solution is to what? Give the fools another chance to do even more damage? No wonder the country is so screwed with morons like you voting....
Dear Genty....is that all you got??? Gas prices!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! News flash----gas prices are based on the open and free markets---just like your cronies want it (you know, get your government out of my business and all that). Anyway, who profits from high gas prices??? Oil companies!!! Again, more GOPathetic cronies. I don't know how the economy is on your planet, but in the US on earth, things are getting better, and while it still has way to go, is pointing in the right direction.
Here's a question that even you may be able to answer: if it takes 8 years to dig a hole, how long does it take to fill it? Hint-the answer IS NOT 3.
But hey, I can't really blame you for being the product of the continuing effort of the GOPigs to undermine and devastate the educational system in this country. I can, however, question your desire to be their dupe.
FAUX will hype up the high gas prices, and the FAUX listeners will dutifully mimic...
Here's a little of "how Roger Ailes" brainwashes the masses through Fox News:
Ailes knows exactly who is watching Fox News each day, and he is adept at playing to their darkest fears in the age of Obama. The network’s viewers are old, with a median age of 65: Ads cater to the immobile, the infirm and the incontinent, with appeals to join class action hip-replacement lawsuits, spots for products like Colon Flow and testimonials for the services of Liberator Medical (“Liberator gave me back the freedom I haven’t had since I started using catheters”). The audience is also almost exclusively white – only 1.38 percent of viewers are African-American. “Roger understands audiences,” says Rollins, the former Reagan consultant. “He knew how to target, which is what Fox News is all about.” The typical viewer of Hannity, to take the most stark example, is a pro-business (86 percent), Christian conservative (78 percent), Tea Party-backer (75 percent) with no college degree (66 percent), who is over age 50 (65 percent), supports the NRA (73 percent), doesn’t back gay rights (78 percent) and thinks government “does too much” (84 percent). “He’s got a niche audience and he’s programmed to it beautifully,” says a former News Corp. colleague. “He feeds them exactly what they want to hear.”
From the time Obama began contemplating his candidacy, Fox News went all-out to convince its white viewers that he was a Marxist, a Muslim, a black nationalist and a 1960s radical. In early 2007, Ailes joked about the similarity of Obama’s name to a certain terrorist’s. “It is true that Barack Obama is on the move,” Ailes said in a speech to news executives. “I don’t know if it’s true that President Bush called Musharraf and said, ‘Why can’t we catch this guy?’” References to Obama’s middle name were soon being bandied about on Fox & Friends, the morning happy-talk show that Ailes uses as one of his primary vehicles to inject his venom into the media bloodstream. According to insiders, the morning show’s anchors, who appear to be chatting ad-lib, are actually working from daily, structured talking points that come straight from the top. “Prior to broadcast, Steve Doocy, Gretchen Carlson – that gang – they meet with Roger,” says a former Fox deputy. “And Roger gives them the spin.”
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-roger-ailes-built-the-fox-news-fear-factory-20110525#ixzz1nVIcO2VQ
Jo-ann...
Damn, and to think that pelosi and the media did the same thing in 2007-2008 for bush. Amazing how what goes around, comes around.
When I read the headline "Brewer endorses Romney", I almost had a heart attack. I was ready to nuke Budweiser.
"You can't buy entertainment like this" Not to mention hilarious comments from posters.
So thanks to all the Repub candidates for providing this comedy for free.....what a hoot.
The "fix" (i.e., $$$$$$$$$$) is in and Romney will be the one that the Koch Bros. and Halliburton will choose as "their" candidate so any of this hoo ha doesn't matter much
I love all you libaturds and your comments anyone of the GOP candidates would be 150% better than the empty suit in the WH now,all talk no solutions and many excuses
Forget the "Koch Bros.". Grover Norquist is a h*ll of a lot more "scarey" with his "so-called" pledge. If those signers really want "TRUE TAX REFORM", let those "Tea Party" people, live up to their "namesakes", grab their "axes", and "AX THE TAX CODE". With its $1.1TRILLION in "breaks, exemptions & loopholes"; Plus allowing 45% paying NOTHING?? THERE IS YOUR "DEFICIT"??
It's sooo funny how she says she's "going to work as hard as she can" to help Mitt win the primary. What - for a whole 2 days? What a nut! I'll never understand how Arizona voters elected her. She embarrasses their state every time she opens her mouth. I've visited Arizona, and I love the state, but Brewer needs to go.
Considering how badly she has done trashing her own state's economy and making it into even more of a circus than it was before who really cares who she supports? I would think people there would wake up and boot her fat butt out of office already....
I find it interesting that the posters here who use vulgar language ("boot her fat b--t" etc.) are the ones who claim superiority over Gov. Brewer, without any evidence that they have accomplished anything in life. To paraphrase a worthy maxim, "If you're so smart, why aren't you a governor?"
Ok how does fata$$ sound better? Why I am not governor is that I am not a criminal fraud who flunked economics like Rick Perry or your precious Brewer. AZ ranks #50 on the budget problems list why don't you elephant butts pull your heads from your rectums and quit snorting your hate-filled religious agenda...
Really needs the help, but being endorsed by the insane should be left for the other one.
Good for her, Romneys the Man to jumpstart this nation again! The economy sucks, gas prices are getting wacko - 'get Obama out of there'! The president has been on a Holiday for over three years now! Give the somehow revered king another cracker jack box medal and send him on his merry way
Romney couldn't jump start anything but another rash of chickenhawk Republican looting of our economy.
Gentlemans, double posting does not make you statement any more true or believable. So once is enough...unless you want to make yourself look like more of an idiot.
Or a case of hemorrhoids....
More like another nail in Mitt's coffin....lol
GentlemansHonor-
I agree...however, the gas prices are not an issue anymore for our President as he even stated that gas prices are 'where they should be.' Talk about disconnect from the 99%. Gas prices were only an issue for the average guy, the 99%, when Bush was in office because all of his rich oil buddies were getting richer. This is totally different now.??? Although, when Bush left office, oil was less than $50/barrel and at the pump about $1.80/gallon. Such selective and short memories from our liberal friends.
Just because you repeat your lame post does not make it any more true. But considering the repetitive moaning and whining of the GOPorkers, it's consistent with that (lack of) mentality.
If Romney tried to jump start anything he'd get electrocuted he's so dumb. Do you really think selling off the assets of the US and laying off workers is the way to jump start the economy?
Rob
Go to google and look up gas prices for the entire year of 2008. The selective memory of the republicans seems to forget the 4.00 per gallon summer of 2008. The only reason it got so low was because republican policies ruined our economy, which had a huge effect on the global economy, which caused the oil exporting countries to drastically lower their prices (for a short time). Maybe the GOP windbags should do some research before making such fools of themselves.
Is that not the old dried up racist hag who put her finger in the President face? She is the lowest form of life, check her neck I bet you it red.
Gov. Brewer is not racist. Asking that people from other countries obey our laws is not racism. On the other hand, I would rather have 20 average Mexicans in this country than one of you, as your idea of discourse is evidently merely to hurl insults at a good person and effective administrator. Or at a minimum, you should learn how to write correct English - not "the President face," or "I bet you it red."
A good person..that's funny!
Well, he's finally capped off the old, racist vote at least.
If he was having trouble with the Hispanic vote before.....
This pretty much settles it!!
OBAMA 2012
It will be hard for the GOP to cultivate the Latino vote when they are trying to deport everyone with a Hispanic surname.
Sailcat, Where do you get your info from MSNBC, Fox News? President Obama is deporting Illegals faster than any president before him! That's the only thing I'll miss about him. Obama2012,over and out,"THE END OF AN ERROR"!!
Ah, Fender! If they ever invent bacon flavored malt liquor, you'll disappear from here forever!
Obama in November by default! America is hold an election and the GOP isn't going to show up!
"AMERICA IS HOLD AN ELECTION AND THE GOP ISN'T GOING TO SHOW UP" ?? Thanks for making my point that you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Great lib comback as well SailorPuss,start name calling instead of the facts! Keep your drinking referrences in your own house where they belong!
Here are some facts you can chew on, little man!
Santorum vs. Obama:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_santorum_vs_obama-2912.html
Romney vs. Obama:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Gingrich vs. Obama:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_gingrich_vs_obama-1453.html
Paul vs. Obama:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_paul_vs_obama-1750.html
The fact is your party has no one who represents a credible threat to the reelection of our president because the American people are rejecting the Republican Party's hateful losers. These imbeciles have been campaigning hard for months now and they have accomplished nothing but offend the voters. You would do well to remember that Obama, in contrast, has not begun to campaign in earnest yet! When that happens, the failed political ideology of the GOP will fade like a prom queen's wrist corsage. By the way, the dark stain spreading on your trousers is just a normal reaction to being embarrassed in public. You'll get used to it.
There's plenty of time Sailcat, your own party shifted gears without using the clutch from Clinton to Obama. What kind of job the Republican elected president remains to be seen. And that will come about because the American people are rejecting the "loser" who is now president! The dark stain on my trousers is your gag reflex so get used to it, bitch.
I know you're typing furiously on your keyboard, little man, but all I see on my screen is "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!!"
If you think you're having a bad day today, wait until the morning after the general election when Obama's inevitable reelection is announced! Your wailing will be heard all the way across your trailer park!
All of this pissing and moaning started over a comment that the GOP needs hispanic votes in order to win? Oh there is no doubt that we are in for an amazing spin of campaign b-lls--t from the President,designed by Bill Daley. The false facts of his accomplishments and how he needs more time and more of our money to get it right. We can go back and forth name calling all day like children or with facts like adults. Now you stated that the Republicans are deporting not just illegals but all latino's legal or not? That is BS, the President is running illegals out at an alarming rate,that is a fact. Why would you concern yourself with a racist false statement like that with Obama's pending shoe in re-election? Go outside with your family man and enjoy your day off!
Fender bender, IF and that is a BIG IF, for some horrible ODD reason the Greedy Obstructionist Party get their FREAK candidate to win as POTUS, it would be because the Rethug establishment RIG the election, as they always do. As a matter of fact, they ARE already laying the foundation for it! A LOT of states who have RIGHT wing control have been changing the laws and districts to prevent minorities, students, and any one they deemed may vote left. Carl Rove Rig man?!- no doubt actively working on his evil plans. This is the reason, anyone should not fall prey to the lies and hypocrisy of the right wing hacks IF you don't want the 1% oligarchs/plutocrats running your lives.
sailcat - an incumbent with less 50% has a problem. The lower the support, the less likelihood of re-election. In the 2010 Senate races, all Senators with a consistant over 50% support returned. Those between 46 & 49% support half returned. Of those between 40 & 45% support most didn't even run and over half of those that did lost. There were 2 democrats who has less than 46% that made it back but their opponents at this point were double digits down.
Sailcat - If your rebuttal depends on you using the term "little man" you are already the loser, but you already know that don't you?
DbAkron - obama has a long ways to go to get re-elected. He still hasn't positioned himself as a unifier. I am sure that independents will look at this as being an important qualifier for a POTUS. Even to the extent of seeing if someone else can do it. Ala, carter vs reagan in 1980.
Yet another abo loon. Doubling down on the practice of making sure Obama is a one term president to the detriment of the overall good.
This woman is a disgusting human being ..she reminds me of that Palin woman ! Even the people of AZ find her objectionable ! They cant wait to vote this "BUM" out !
Arizonians should know that their hidious governor will do more harm to their state before she leaves office. They need to stand up to her like the Wisconsin people. And I hope the Wisconsin people succeed in overthrowing their Koch supported governor!
my roomate's brother-in-law earned $27,000 past month chopping off the hands of posters like you.
Actually not true. She has a sound base of support, and is a highly effective governor. Before you criticize another woman's looks, you should post a picture of yourself so that readers can judge who is the greater beauty. Further, you should at least learn how to spell hideous before using it as an epithet. In any event, politicians, including women, should be judged on their work and policies, not on their appearance. When elections become mere beauty contests, we have lost our way and have no excuse if we end up being tyrannized.
Jan Brewer has proven to be a skank over and over. Why waste time in the news about who she is endorsing.
Judging by your post John you must be a Democrat. As you know Republicans hate women,children,education,poor,disabled,union,religion,gays Spanish ,blacks,reds,Asians,Germans, English, Indians,Russians,dogs cats,they like sheep and stupid people and mens room stalls
I won't have you saying Republicans "hate" a whole litany of people! Big tough Republicans don't hate any of those folks . . . . they "FEAR" them and that is what makes them a dangerous breed. The good news is that their very elderly base is dying off at a pace to make them impotent as a party in November, saying the last rites during the 2014 mid-terms and resting in peace by 2016. And guess what. Young people are coming to the Democratic Party 10 for every 1 "Young Republican." Bye-Bye GOP, it is time that you went home to Lincoln. The only question that I have is "What Group can replace you?" The Clan maybe.
I've been thinking about the age perspective alot lately and I didn't realize that so many newcomers to politics lean Democratic. It does seem that many very elderly didn't evolve with the times. They seem so dogmatic in their views and I can't say I'm sorry that they're dying off.
Michael - we may be dying off but realize something... we have far more life experiences than the young newcomers to know what to expect and to be able to seperate the wheat from the chaff.
You don't need to be of age to have and do that. You need education and an adventurous spirit.