Afternoon roundup: Santorum plays defense, Romney sheriff quits, half of ads negative

Rick Santorum leads in polls, but he's spent much of the last two days defending provocative comments. ... A Romney Arizona co-chairman -- and hard-line immigration sheriff -- quits after a sex scandal erupts ... Romney asks Trump to give him air cover ... And half of all GOP primary ads have been negative.

 

1. Santorum leads nationally, in states…
Rick Santorum is maintaining the lead in national polls. His margin in the ever-fluctuating Gallup Daily Tracking poll expanded to 10 (36%-26% over Mitt Romney) today.

Another poll conducted by Gallup for USA Today shows Santorum up six, 50%-44%. (By the way, two-thirds of Republicans in that poll say they oppose a so-called “brokered” convention.)

National polls in primaries mean almost nothing. But as Super Tuesday March 6th approaches with 11 states across the country voting, national polls will mean a little bit more.

In Oklahoma, the Sooner Poll shows Santorum up 16 points, 39%-23%, with Newt Gingrich -- not Romney -- in second. Romney is third with 16.  (In Texas, there’s a robo poll -- a methodology NBC doesn’t report on -- that shows Santorum up 30. Should there be more evidence that shows similar results in live caller polls, we’ll report it.)

2. …But he’s also defending his own words
We’re not sure if the Philadelphia Daily News is one of Santorum’s morning reads, but if it is, he woke up to this headline from a Daily News columnist: “Santorum? Really? He's atop the GOP heap. Are they nuts?”

Depending on your perspective, Santorum either had a tough weekend or is standing up for very conservative values.

Yesterday on the Sunday shows and again today, Santorum was left defending remarks accusing President Obama’s of believing a “phony theology” that is not based on “the Bible;” pre-natal testing leading to abortions; the greatest generation during World War Two and how they stepped up – albeit late because they thought Hitler might not be that bad and then pivoted and said people “today” need to step up. That left some to wonder if he were likening Hitler to President Obama (More on the full remarks here); And there were his remarks on public schools, in which Santorum, who homeschools his children, said, “Where did they come up with public education was the role of the government? … The idea that state governments or the federal government should run schools is anachronistic.”

On almost all of those except pre-natal testing, which he defended, he tried to walk back or try to blame the media for overhyping them.

On “theology,” he said he wasn’t questioning Obama’s faith, that if he says he’s Christian, he believes him. And he changed his language today from theology to “ideology.” (Though a surrogate today also explained that there’s a certain “secularist theology” or “theological secularism” that Obama and liberals ascribe to.

On his World War Two comments, he said, “No, of course not,” he wasn’t comparing President Obama to Hitler. And: "It’s a World War Two metaphor. It's one I've used 100 times."

On education, on CBS’s Face the Nation yesterday, Santorum put it this way: “To the extent possible, with respect to mandates and designing curriculum and the like, I’d get the state government out. I think that the parent should be in charge, working with the local school district to try to design an educational environment for each child that optimizes their potential. … It’s another thing to dictate and micromanage and create a one-size-fits-all education system in states and certainly in the federal government, which is what President Obama’s trying to do.”

Not helping his cause today, spokeswoman Alice Stewart slipped and called Obama’s policies “radical Islamic policies,” instead of what she meant and said on the show as well – “radical environmentalist policies.” It’s a comment the left has had a field day with.

For those who have seen Santorum in person, he tends to go without notes, can speak for a long time, and meander into territory that, if there were a script, would be off of it. Now, these comments could actually help Santorum with very conservative voters. But they could hurt him not just with independents in a general election, but also with Republicans for whom electability matters most.

3. Romney Ariz. co-chair quits campaign
A co-chairman of Romney’s Arizona campaign Paul Babeu, who was seen walking along the border in that famous McCain “complete the dang fence” ad and is running for Congress, quit the Romney campaign after a report in the Phoenix Times alleged that he threatened to deport an ex-boyfriend if he didn’t keep quiet about their relationship.

He denies that accusation, but did come out at a press conference acknowledging he is gay. (MSNBC’s Thomas Roberts interviewed a reporter from the Arizona Republic who has been covering the story.)

4. Romney camp asks Trump to do radio
NBC’s Garrett Haake reported that, at the request of the Romney campaign, Donald Trump is now doing radio interviews for Romney in Ohio and Michigan. In one interview today in Michigan, Trump left open a third-party bid if Romney doesn’t win the nomination.

“There's a good possibility would do something,” he said, “because I love the country.”

He said Santorum “has no chance,” and that people in Pennsylvania turned him away. Locally, where they knew him best, was even worse.”

He said he went with Romney because of electability. Santorum, he said, “can’t win in a general. I see that and I see some of his views which are so out there, he cannot win the general.

He also acknowledged though one of Romney’s weaknesses – connecting with average voters. “He’s a much different guy on a personal basis than on TV,” Trump said.

And he also revealed that he knows Gingrich, because he is apparently a member at his D.C.-area country club.

5. Study: 50% of GOP ads negative
If you thought the ad wars this year were even more negative than ever before, you are right.

A new study by ad tracker CMAG/KANTAR media shows that just 6% of campaign ads in 2008 were negative in the GOP primary. This year, that number has jumped to 50 percent.

And you have Super PACs to thank for that. They have run more ads than the candidates themselves. And the Super PACs have spent about three-quarters of their cash on negative ads.

And, get this, 100% of Restore Our Future’s and American Crossroads’ ads have been negative.

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Chapter #669 of the YOU Just Can't Make This Stuff Up;

Would that be the same sheriff who threatened to deport his ex-boyfriend?

I believe the word I'm looking for is 'blackmail' & last time I checked, isn't that illegal?

Willard sure knows how to pick him some 'winners'...

When are the insane clown posse going to tell us what their ideas are, rather then how BAD the other guy is?

  • 45 votes
#1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:47 PM EST

Santorum has released a litany of false attacks on the President, women, non-Evangelicals, science,non-Republicans, and preventive health in the last few days.

Rick Santorum's press secretary Alice Stewart was right on message when she 'mis-spoke". She said exactly what she meant to say, for the purpose of casting false doubt.

This political tactic is right out of the Rove playbook.

Santorum and his KOCH $$$BACKERS - NOT FOOLING ANYONE.

  • 60 votes
#1.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:04 PM EST

Santorum, in your guts you know he is nuts.

  • 58 votes
#1.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:13 PM EST

So 50% of republican ads are negative. Wait for the general election! Time to break out the DVD's! Time to read a book! If independents could make up their ever fickle minds we wouldn't have to go through this!

  • 20 votes
#1.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:15 PM EST

Santorum just keeps stepping in big piles of do-do of his own making. Santorum surrogates jump into the big do-do piles Santorum made. Trump helps Romney on the radio by saying he loves his country and might run for President if....

Why is it the GOP and Santorum in particular is so obsessed with WWII and Hitler when discussing President Obama and democratic party policies? Why should Hitler even be mentioned as part of the campaign conversation? No matter how much one party disagrees with the other--using Hitler as a dog whistles is a disgrace to American politics and disrespectful to the millions who died at the hands of Hitler. Before the right-wing posters attack this comment, I have never nor will I ever compare a republican president or candidate to Hitler or Stalin or any other murderous dictator.

  • 49 votes
#1.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:28 PM EST

Mitt is supposed to be electable because of his business management skills. So he hires as advisors most of the Bush crowd who got us into the mess we're just getting out of and then has the sheriff as his Arizona Co-Chair.

  • 32 votes
#1.5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:54 PM EST

Sadly, most of those who so glibly toss around the buzz words Hitler, Nazis and such have no idea of the real horror they caused.

  • 27 votes
#1.6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:03 PM EST

It looks like Obama/Biden in 2012.

No way, an idiot like Santorum can get more than maybe 40% of the vote in the general, and that is being generous.

Romney could come a lot closer, but the GOP is so messed up, they can't hold their nose long enough to nominate him.

The GOP is dead. I think the Tea Party had more to do with their death than anything else.

Last Summer, when they were willing to destroy the economy over stupid things like taxing the rich, they signed their own death warrant.

Now that the dialog has become birth control, they are, what did the Munchkins say? " ...morally, ethically, spiritually, physically, positively, absolutely, undeniably, and reliably- dead!"

RIP the GOP. Tea Party bigots, you lose.

  • 38 votes
#1.7 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:11 PM EST

What do the latest polls say about Santorum vs. Obama? It doesn't look good for the right wing lunatic fringe...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_santorum_vs_obama-2912.html

  • 19 votes
#1.8 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:16 PM EST

just another twist from the ol' fox news lead-off: "there are some who say:" bait those who will listen, get your foot in the door, then wedge the door open with the shoe. santorum has just begun to grease the allusion of truth and serve up his slop as hyperbole with a message of deceit to those who will swallow their pill of NO!

  • 18 votes
#1.9 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:31 PM EST

TO: We can do it who wrote:

"It looks like Obama/Biden in 2012. No way, an idiot like Santorum can get more than maybe 40% of the vote in the general, and that is being generous. Romney could come a lot closer, but the GOP is so messed up, they can't hold their nose long enough to nominate him. The GOP is dead. I think the Tea Party had more to do with their death than anything else.

Last Summer, when they were willing to destroy the economy over stupid things like taxing the rich, they signed their own death warrant. Now that the dialog has become birth control, they are, what did the Munchkins say? " ...morally, ethically, spiritually, physically, positively, absolutely, undeniably, and reliably- dead!""

We can do it, Great Post! I think the downfall of the GOP may have began immediately after President Obama won the election and Mitch McConnell came out and promised that Republicans would do everything in their power to work AGAINST a freely elected democratic POTUS, and because Republicans have kept THAT promise, but did NOT keep their oath of office, well I just think that whole thing about the GOP putting themselves 1st before the well-being of the American People and the U.S.A. just about ended the GOP as we used to know it.

  • 36 votes
#1.10 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:38 PM EST

Does anyone know where the republican "fool pool" is located in this country? Do the proprietors collect these people as they are, or do they dick around with 'em until they become as this pack are? One of these, um, things, will actually get to run for the US Presidency. Lotta laughs for a while, but then, one has to realize what an awful mess a lot of people have allowed themselves to become. That's sad, and quite scary.

  • 11 votes
#1.11 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:00 PM EST

Would someone please ask Santorum spokeswoman Alice Stewart what her favorite form of birth control is? PLEASE let Santorum keep talking.

  • 14 votes
#1.12 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:02 PM EST

Depending on your perspective, Santorum either had a tough weekend or is standing up for very conservative values.

He is just saying things that will please the hypocritical "conservatives"from the right. He knows what he is doing. Don't underestimate this hypocritical clown. He is playing his cards well with his dumb audience.

  • 16 votes
#1.13 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:05 PM EST

An open note to Ricky Santorum:

Ricky, Ricky, Ricky, Just hunker down and use the ol' Karl Rove playbook. Read the part on" You can fool all of the people some of the time. and some of the people all of time." If you time it right you won't get caught before the part about "You can't fool all of the people all of the time.

Just pander to each hate group and you don't have to stand for anything just make sure you whip up each one with the fear of their chioce.

The ol' Rove playbook and unlimited funds from his cronies and you might just pull it off.

Of course many of us have learned from the past and don't fall for that crap anymore, but there are still plenty of dolts that do.

So brush up on the FOX news points and the Rush L word of the day and keep plugging. There's a sucker born every minute. There are a lot of minutes until the next election.

  • 25 votes
#1.14 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:55 PM EST

you libs scare me they way you just suck up the lies and dont check for yourself

  • 1 vote
#1.15 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:11 PM EST

Why is Rick Santorum so obsessed with other peoples sex lives?

You Repugs scare everybody.

  • 21 votes
#1.16 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:23 PM EST

So Gingrich belongs to the same country club as Donald Trump?

Hahahahahaha

You're right, Feisty - you just can't make up stuff this good.

  • 15 votes
#1.17 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:40 PM EST

I don't like Romney and he will not get my vote, but that sheriff in Arizona really has nothing to do with him as a candidate, lets be fair about this and not lie like the TeaPugs. The GOP will never see a vote from me again, when the tea-retards took them over.

  • 14 votes
#1.18 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:43 PM EST
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For those who cannot understand the "Hitler" comparisons, you obviously don't understand how Hitler and the Nazis came to and consolidated and maintained power, by demonizing the "Jews" as the cause of the German masses' suffering...In the exact same way that the President and Liberals are demonizing America's 1%...And you are blindly hailing his "Truth" in the exact same way...No, the President (himself) has not began the wholesale slaughter of the Nation's "Rich" (yet), but when the 99% refuse to see through the "rhetoric" as politics as usual, the "movement" will take on a life of it's own (by the way 2% = 6 million)

  • 3 votes
#1.19 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:57 PM EST

YOU SHOULD READ! the top 2.7% in this country have benefited from an increase in wealth or wages of 237% ! over the last 30 years WHILE the rest of us have had a DECLINE of 17.9% ! - THAT IS THE FACTS!

Wanting that portion of the populous to actually pay the same in taxes and have the REST of us get some of that 237% is just about time . ENOUGH of the scales being in favor of the already wealthy!!!

  • 17 votes
#1.20 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:17 PM EST

Mr. Phea - so the 1% are now the Jews?

You know, I will never, ever understand rabid right "logic".

  • 11 votes
#1.21 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:23 PM EST

The 1% has NOT been demonized. They are being asked to pay a proportionately fair amount of tax. That is a far cry from demonization.

  • 19 votes
#1.22 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:26 PM EST

Whaddya want to bet that Gingrich and Trump shop at the same Tiffany's, too?

  • 8 votes
#1.23 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:26 PM EST

And I doubt that you ever will

President Obama has called for the a minimum of 30%, while 50% pay 0%, that seems like a fair proportion...and why...because the 50% are not capable of providing for themselves...I'd be pissed if someone assumed I didn't have ability to provide for my needs...It's about "Power", You make the population dependant on you for survival, Every drug dealer knows this, once your hooked, you belong to them (as in owned)

When there is no one left defending your "RIGHT" to be free, you will not be

  • 2 votes
#1.24 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:37 PM EST

Rick Santorum thinks he is captain America ?

Rick is anti-gun !

Rick gets his support from the Koch Bums, also the aspirin sugar daddy !

Rick has a war on women's health !

Rick also opposed government loans to save our auto industry !

The people of Pennsylvania just don't get it when they kicked this bum rick out of their state for poor performance.

Santorum said on CBS, the President subscribe to phony theology based on the bible, speech to a group of mad looking bible thumping teabaggers in Ohio !

Rick called the GI Bill a waste of money !

Rick called S.S., & Medicare Welfare !

Santorum compares President Obama to Hitler !

Vietnam, Rick was hiding from the military like a worm, the Vet's called him Rambo !

Rick wants to make birth control illegal !

Rick's wife had a six + year affair with a abortion doctor, could this be one of his problems ?

Santorum said rape victims should think of the babies conceived during their assault as gifts from God, This guy is weird !

Its scary this guy is running for President !

  • 12 votes
#1.25 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:39 PM EST

Mr. Phea - as I'm sure you're really aware (despite spouting Heritage Foundation talking points at every opportunity), ALL working Americans pay taxes.

The rabid right loves to pick the ONE tax that the 1% actually pay (at least occasionally) - federal income tax - and base all their "statistics" off it.

Did you know that PAYROLL TAXES are 36% of federal revenues. Guess how much Mr. Romney (and most of the rest of the 1%) pay in PAYROLL TAXES? $0!

And 60% of American corporate "people" don't pay any income tax, either.

Haven't heard one peep from you about that.

  • 13 votes
#1.26 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:51 PM EST

Ok, now we see the real Santorum coming out. The one who makes comments,

he were likening Hitler to President Obama

and such like. Santorum is an evangelical running for President, and his evangelism is his platform. No thanks rick, go away.

  • 9 votes
#1.27 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:12 PM EST

the tax burden on all Americans is way to high, and that is a product of a bloated Government (at all levels)...and to be a proponent of an ever expanding Government and increased taxes to pay for it...now thats Logic...that 36% is supposed to be paying for the programs that it takes 60+% of the federal budget to support, and just so happens to be the tax we (together) are cutting

There are Americans who need help, who really need help...but that number is 1/10th of 1% of those who want it...and that number includes poor, middle, and rich wanters

We could reduce the cost of our Government by 60% just by putting 95% of what the Federal Government believes is their domain back in the hands of those levels of Government where those "services" can be handled most efficiently...If you want Corruption out of Washington, then get the "Money and Power" out first...not give it more

  • 2 votes
#1.28 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:27 PM EST

Mr. Phea - if you truly, as you say, want everyone to pay less tax, why do you spend so much time carping about the percentage you claim "don't pay any"?

I'd think they would be your idols.

  • 5 votes
#1.29 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:37 PM EST

It is simply a counter point, to those of you who claim some don't pay enough....10% should be the minimum and maximum that any person or intentity submits, through any mechanism, to the Federal Government...and the Federal Government should not be allowed to spend 1 dime more than they take in...If the State of California has need, then it should collect those funds from it's citizenry...If Tarrant County has a need it should collect those funds from it residents...If South Hampshire street has a need it should collect those funds from it's residents

  • 1 vote
#1.30 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:11 AM EST

Message to the rightwing lemmings:

You are doing a MIGHTY GREAT disservice NOT only to yourselves but to the whole country if you support this extreme LUNATIC Sanatorium to run this country. Take off the rose colored glasses, and see the truth. You guys really need to let true facts sink in your brainwash noggins.

The GOPers have NO ideas how to fix this economy, and are held in bondage to their oligarch donors who controls them. THUS, the promise of jobs in their 2010 campaign, was a big lie!! The trickle down economics has not and will not work! So now, they will campaign on social debates to cajole your conservative sensibilities. But the truth is their plans ONLY makes matter worse.

One example: Repeal healthcare - so pre-existing conditions is no longer covered - including pregnancy! And they don't want abortion, but they will cut the healthcare needed by women for a healthy pregnancy. So no prenatal healthcare?! No birth control pills to prevent unwanted pregnancies, that may end up as a pre-existing condition? And if the woman/couple is/are jobless, how will she feed this child? Or what if born to an abusive person - then you have child abuse issues. Plus all the GOPer cuts on education, so we'll bring up illiterate children in this country?!! GOPers wants war as it's a profit for the 1% (Haliburton) So, will they bring the draft back, if nobody signs up? They don't want gays or women in the military, so is their purpose to make women as breeding mares for future soldiers?? This goes on and on and on.

Bottom line, all the GOPers really care is getting your vote, but DON'T expect that you will get anything in return to save your miserable life!! So save yourself time and gas, and forget your lying and ugly candidates.

I am just glad we have a very sensible president that in spite of all the blockage, have manage to do a lot, and stir us to the right direction. If these VILE Rethugs stop being obstructionists and actually listen to their constituents, they will be on the side of the president, and most likely we will even be much farther ahead in resolving our problems. So be part of the solution and NOT the problem. Forget your god-awful candidates.

  • 7 votes
#1.31 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:15 AM EST

Mr. Phea - And if all the residents of Tarant County are unemployed because Bain Capital saw an opportunity to make a lot of money by cashing out the pensions and assets of their local manufacturing industry, what are they going to use to provide themselves with unemployment benefits and food stamps?

Or should they just starve?

  • 11 votes
#1.32 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:40 AM EST

well just possibly, if the residents of Tarrant County knew that their survival depended on their own personal responsibility, maybe Bain Capital's possible negative impact on the county would have been factored into local policy

I'm not saying every neighborhood across America has to stand on it own (but it would be nice), I saying that every problem/issue/need should be dealt with a the most local level possible...only when p/i/n cannot be decided/adressed locally should it become the affairs of the next higher level of Government...If I need to change a lightbuld, I do it...If I don't have a ladder, I borrow it from my neighbor...If the power is out on our block, we call the city...If the City is hit by a tornadoe, the County Steps in, If the County is flooded, then the State steps up...The Federal Government should not be making sure that your neighbor has a ladder for you to borrow

  • 1 vote
#1.33 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:07 AM EST

All News Flash - this is the understanding person of blue collar workers?

Rick Santorum is the middle of the three children of Aldo Santorum
(1923–2011), a clinical psychologist who immigrated to the
United States at age seven from Riva del Garda, Italy,[15] and
Catherine (Dughi) Santorum (1918–), an administrative nurse[15][16][17] of Italian American and
Irish American
descent.[18]

D

  • 5 votes
#1.34 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:12 AM EST

Mr Pheaniques - if you insist on bringing up a Nazi analogy, make one that is valid. Who is demonizing Muslims and workers? That is quite a bit more an accurate analogy to what the Nazis did. You do not know history, logic, debate, or humanity.

  • 4 votes
#1.35 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:34 AM EST

“Where did they come up with public education was the role of the government? … The idea that state governments or the federal government should run schools is anachronistic.”

Conservatives here on FR have been scoffing for YEARS at my persistent accusation that Conservatives are hostile to public education. Now we have the Republican front runner declaring his belief in the destruction of this honored and longstanding American tradition.

History will not look well on this time when the Republican Party mainstreamed crazy.

  • 10 votes
#1.36 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:50 AM EST

the tax burden on all Americans is way to high,

Not even slightly true. The federal income tax as a proportion of GDP is the lowest it's been since 1950. To balance that level of taxation the federal government would need to quit doing everything that wasn't in existence in 1950. No Medicare, no food stamps, virtually no support for schools, airports, transportation infrastructure. No NASA, little in the way of worker protections, and say goodbye to any environmental regulations. I realize that's close to nirvana to the New Confederates of the Conservative Movement, but the world has moved on. The world the GOPTP dreams of would be unable to compete in the modern world and our days as a great nation would be done.

Good luck in your efforts to repeal the 20th Century.

  • 5 votes
#1.37 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:18 AM EST

I get so tired of people trying to mislead others by saying 50% or 47% of people pay no taxes. It is simply false and shows ones propensity to lie and mislead. I can tell you one thing that is a fact. Other than their vote, not one person making less than 50,000 dollars that pays no federal income tax had a say in setting their tax rate. Just like Mitt, they are paying what they are required to pay. The only difference is they do not have 20 million a year left over.

  • 6 votes
#1.38 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:23 AM EST

<runs into the room filled with frothing at the mouth liberals>

Obama sucks!!!!

<runs back out>

  • 1 vote
#1.39 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:36 AM EST

I've never donated any money to GOP campaigns, but I'm tempted to throw some to Santorum to help him get the nomination. If Santorum wins, his numbers would be bad enough, but Trump will run as a third party candidate, so not only will Obama win by a very large margin, the GOP will be lucky to get 30% of the total vote and may only win ten or so states. If the GOP loses an election that badly, they will drop the Tea Party and religious right pandering and totally catering to the super rich start to focus on the working class, middle class, and moderates that make up the real majority in America.

Both parties working together to represent us is what the voters really want and keep asking for. It appears the only way to stop this extreme partisanship that has divided us both politically and as a nation is to give the GOP a devastating loss in November to purge the party of the crazies and restore the GOP back to the real Republicans and working with a more bipartisan government. The third party people claim they are the solution to our two party system, but very few if any people really believe that a third party candidate could get elected and could even be effective at all without the backing of at least half of the Congress. A third party route down the road might be conceivable, but in the meantime we have some real problems that need a bipartisan government to come to agreements on for workable actions now, and not obstructionism or kicking the can down the road from either side.

  • 2 votes
#1.40 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:44 AM EST

"Help, somebody get me off the Woof!" -Romney's dog

In all seriousness, that comment actually has the Independents/Dog lovers in my office on fire! Can your affinity for pets win/lose you an election?

  • 5 votes
#1.41 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:58 AM EST

@mike,

I agree with you, but it isn't just the GOP. While they have fallen off the cliff, the libs fell right behind them. The only way I see to try and get the message across is to vote out all Congress and replace them. Especially all the long termers (is that a word? o.O) starting with McConnell, Boehner, Pelosi, Reid, etc.

As far as the presidential election, I don't think any of them could do worse than Obama, so no matter who we get in office is going to make a rough four years for the country. Obama has swung the religious pendulum too far left, and a republican would swing it too far right. Neither will do jack about the illegal alien issue. Both will get us embroiled into another war in the middle east (Iran). Both will buckle to big dollar donors and lobbyists further screwing small businesses. Both will use government math to give us the warm and fuzzies about jobs, while either trying to create union/public sector jobs, or private sector jobs depending on the party. One will gut the military, the other will grow the military. One will continue to grow the government dependent lazies, the other will try to gut it so those that need the help don't get it. So honestly, both will continue to screw the country and the middle class because there is no middle ground left.

Congress is where we need to hit, and hard.

    #1.42 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:59 AM EST

    On education, on CBS’s Face the Nation yesterday, Santorum put it this way: “To the extent possible, with respect to mandates and designing curriculum and the like, I’d get the state government out. I think that the parent should be in charge, working with the local school district to try to design an educational environment for each child that optimizes their potential. … It’s another thing to dictate and micromanage and create a one-size-fits-all education system in states and certainly in the federal government, which is what President Obama’s trying to do.”

    Santorum does not seem to understand a few basic truths about educating America's children:

    Not all parents are capable or have the time and interest to be in charge of their children's education. Some of them don't even speak English. Those children should not be penalized or denied an excellent education.

    Educating children is expensive, which is one reason it's done in classrooms and not with individual tutors. His system would be prohibitively expensive. He probably doesn't know much about public education because he home schooled his children while collecting handsomely from a Pennsylvania cyber school fund.

    The only way the U.S. can succeed as a democracy and compete in this globalized world is if ALL our children--no matter where they live, no matter the educational level or economic status of their parents-- have an opportunity to receive an excellent education.

    The very idea of doing away with public education as Santorum proposes is madness.

    • 9 votes
    #1.43 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:07 AM EST

    Mother Cluster Duck

    just another twist from the ol' fox news lead-off: "there are some who say:"

    If "there are some who say" was a drinking game, we would all be plastered! Seriously, FOX Noise viewers, you are challenged to count how many times you hear this lead-in. Because "they" are credible sources, but we're just not going to tell you who "they" are. What a friggin' joke!

    kaybeetoys

    The very idea of doing away with public education as Santorum proposes is madness.

    The push for vouchers was all about getting tax dollars for parochial schools. Santorum is topping this by just ending public education altogether, thereby ending Separation of Church and State prevention of Christian prayer and Christian creationism in schools.

    The reason for public schools--first and foremost--was to ensure education of all children including the poor. In addition, standardization ensures that facts are taught (as much as possible despite Texas influence on text books) you know things like slavery etc. By suggesting such a thing as an end to government funding of schools, Santorum shows once again that he is an "elitist" who is not "erudite" at all.

    Back to the topic of Santorum playing defense, playing defense is not enough. I want to see this jagoff on national television issuing an apology to the president. Otherwise, the GOP/TP should force him to drop out now.

    • 7 votes
    #1.44 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:07 PM EST

    I want to adress Mr Pheaniques and AlexM.......The others are too far gone into "winning", however they may view that.

    Mr Phea, I understood your Nazi analogy perfectly. The President signing NDAA and then forming his "truth committess" using law enforcement officers is scary as FU%&$!!!

    Alex M, your running into the room and running out made me lol.

    Your other post caught my attention.

    FYI, there IS one candidate for President who WILL do something about the Illegals, who will NOT get us into a war with Iran, who will NOT buckle to big dollar donors, who will NOT use government math to give us the warm and fuzzies, who will maintain a strong military while bringing the troops home immediately, who will SHRINK the government, stop the spending, and return sound economic policies to The White House.

    That man is Ron Paul.

    • 1 vote
    #1.45 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:54 PM EST

    Mr. Phea said, "Nazis came to and consolidated and maintained power, by demonizing the "Jews" as the cause of the German masses' suffering...In the exact same way that the President and Liberals are demonizing America's 1%..."

    Yes, because we know how difficult it is for the 1% and what a disadvantage they have in our society. Perhaps we should take up a collection for them. After all, the Trumps, the Koch Brothers, and the rest of them must really need our help.

    • 1 vote
    #1.46 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:00 PM EST

    Marty a good leader never needs to demonize ANYBODY. A good leader works with others to find solutions. A good leader never needs to play the blame game. A good leader could adress the issue of income inequality without trying to demonize any particular group or class of people.

    Tyrants pit groups against each other, or try to find scapegoats for the masses to direct thier anger towards.

    Really the rules are made by the government. Rich people just follow them.

    Who is really to blame?

      #1.47 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:05 PM EST

      Alil, thanks for laying out one of the better reasons why Ron Paul should be entirely disqualified from the Presidency;

      • The Ron Paul Political Report newsletter stated the public should bear arms to protect themselves against carjackings by “urban youth who play whites like pianos.” Note that the terms “black” or “African American” aren’t used in this newsletter sample. However, the racially coded term “urban” and reference to “whites” makes it easy for the reader to ascertain what skin color the youth in question have. The newsletter, written in the first-person, continued on this topic with the following assertion: “I’ve urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self-defense. For the animals are coming.” Now these animal wouldn’t be blacks, would they?
      • In another newsletter, Paul described most black men in Washington, D.C., as “semi-criminal or entirely criminal.”
      • Talking Points Memo reported that in December 1990, Paul suggested that the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. sexually molested girls and boys, remarking: “And we are supposed to honor this ‘Christian minister’ and lying socialist with a holiday that puts him on par with George Washington?”
      • In a 1993 Ron Paul Survival Report newsletter, alarm was raised about “The Disappearing White Majority.” The newsletter referenced the growing birth rate of people of color and expressed a pro-segregation stance with this comment: “It is human nature that like attracts likes. But whites are not allowed to express this same human impulse. Except in a de facto sense, there can be no white schools, white clubs, or white neighborhoods. The political system demands white integration, while allowing black segregation.”
      • In May 2011, Paul told MSNBC that he would have voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which ended Jim Crow. He questioned the act because it took authority away from property owners. Evidently, Paul values the rights of racist property owners over those of African Americans whose housing, employment, schooling and leisure activities were all dictated by Jim Crow.

      http://loop21.com/top-5-racist-ron-paul-quotes-newsletter

      • 2 votes
      #1.48 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:31 AM EST

      According to the majority of responses....I am supposed to willingly chuck off the bondage of the right wing, republican, oligarch donors in favor of the left wing, democratic oligarch donors....the net benefit to me is that instead of certain republicans being wealthy and powerful, now certain democrats are wealthier and more powerful......and my situation in this country changes how?????

      • 1 vote
      #1.49 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:41 AM EST

      A newsletter written 20 years ago by someone else, that's sound reasoning there John B. *eye roll*

      • 1 vote
      #1.50 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:38 AM EST

      Yeah John, funny how the mainstream media can dig that up but can't find any articles Obama wrote for The Harvard Law Review. They dig up a newsletter that Ron Paul was an honorary editor for that had a max circulation at it's peak of 3000 readers.

      And they cherry pick the articles that were written by somebody else in the aftermath of the Rodney King riots in LA. They rioted for more than 6 days.

      Google Reginald Denny. Better yet, you tube it. He was dragged from his truck and beaten in the face with a brick. We have had this conversation before John, and as I told you then, those were very emotional times brother, VERY emotional times.

      It's just a pathetic attempt by the mainstream media to label Ron Paul as racist.

      Do you know why? Because liberals who listen to Ron Paul agree with him on most issues. As do I.

      The Big Money is afraid that Ron Paul will end thier nonstop gravy train at the taxpayers expense.

      They are correct.

        #1.51 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:12 PM EST

        Got it. You're comfortable with Ron Paul signing his name to the racist words of a ghost writer when it works to his advantage to do so, then just walking away from those same words when they become inconvenient for him.

        Congratulations, you've just defined "hypocritical."

        Btw, was he lying when he was posturing as a racist in order to appeal to voters, or is he lying now when he claims not to be a racist in order to appeal to voters?

        Oh, incidentally, no one wrote this comment he made about the natural athleticism of blacks;

        "If you try to catch someone that has stolen a purse from you, there is no chance to catch them,"

        http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/12/26/fifteen_years_ago_ron_paul_wasn_t_claiming_somebody_else_wrote_his_newsletters.html

        • 1 vote
        #1.52 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:52 PM EST
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        Comment author avatarBuck Naked SrExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        we need a little humor today:

        what is six inches long and has not been sucked on since last Saturday?

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        give up?

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        fiesty get your mind out of the gutter

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        Whitney Houston's crack pipe

        • 5 votes
        Reply#2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:52 PM EST

        You, sir, with all due respect, need to be banned.

        • 2 votes
        #2.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:42 AM EST

        No, no, no! That's funny! Don't ban him; he's the only righty here with a sense of humor!

          #2.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:50 PM EST
          Reply

          remember these words: is it sustainable?

          • 3 votes
          Reply#3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:54 PM EST

          The republican/tea bag party has a gay sheriff. Who would have thought that. What do you righties think of that? Are you going to talk trash about him? My question does it matter if he's gay or not?

          • 16 votes
          Reply#4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:54 PM EST

          Shocked that this here Repuglican Tea-bagging "GAY" Sheriff out there in Arizona doesn't like "SANTORUM" google it! YUCK!!!!

          • 2 votes
          #4.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:20 AM EST

          I'm not sure what point you're even trying to make. I guess you also don't think black or hispanic republicans exist also?

            #4.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:03 AM EST
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            Santorum gets more and more ridicuous all the time. The more he opens his trap he makes Obama's reelection easier and easier.

            • 24 votes
            Reply#5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:56 PM EST

            Obama ain't running against him yet

            • 2 votes
            #5.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:57 PM EST

            baldeagle11,

            Hope Santorum just keeps talking his extreme views and the GOP base will continue to eat this stuff up.

            He even make Gingrich look moderate.....

            • 21 votes
            #5.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:11 PM EST

            Ain't?

            Good thin, we don have nun u reddneks runin the @!$%#ry!

            • 5 votes
            #5.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:14 PM EST

            We’re Republicans and this is how we plan to win the White House in 2012. First of all – we are going to do everything we can to drive out the blacks, the Hispanics, the gays, the lesbians, the atheist, the main-stream Christians, the Moslems, and the moderates. We them are going to make sure we do everything we can to get rid of all the auto workers because GM and Chrysler should have folded up their tents and gone bankrupt. Next – we’re going to make most of the female voters angry with us by suggesting that states have the right to ban all birth control, by holding a committee meeting discussing birth control and NOT allow any women to even take part, and – by suggesting that radical feminist are to blame for women working outside the home. Then – to keep the nation safe, we’re going to increase the troops on Afghanistan, send troops back into Iraq and start a two more wars – one with Iran and one with Syria. And just to top everything off – we’re going to not only stop all federal aid to education; we’re going to stop all state aid to education. After we have done all this, our nominee will be Rick Santorum – a former Senator who was kicked out of office by the voters in his state by more than a 2 to 1 margin.

            • 26 votes
            #5.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:29 PM EST

            Isn't Sheriff Babeu the same one who made an ad with McCain back in 2008 or so....'build the fence"?

            • 9 votes
            #5.5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:49 PM EST

            Pertinent strategic analysis, Charlie. Would be laughable except we are seeing it continually unfold before our very eyes.

            • 3 votes
            #5.6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:46 PM EST

            "The GOP is falling apart, the party is finished"

            • 6 votes
            #5.7 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:05 PM EST
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            Willard: Gay Sheriffs that blackmail are people too my friends...Ha

            • 13 votes
            Reply#6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:58 PM EST

            Wow again. Now Santorum, whose children were all home schooled, thinks it's best if the parents all work separately with the school district to determine the curriculum which would be individually customized to each child, with no "government intervention" or standards. Wow, wow, wow.

            • 20 votes
            Reply#7 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:01 PM EST

            Leslie---the children were home schooled while living in Virginia and Santorum tried to bill his local Pennsylvania school district where he maintains an address but does not live for the costs---$100,000.

            • 21 votes
            #7.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:56 PM EST

            Santorum, et. al. think the economy and society should be determined by a giant game of Jenga. Just keep pulling out pieces until the tower falls and then walk away.

            "No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her sex." Susan B. Anthony, 1872

            Santorum doesn't think he's ignoring women...he thinks there is only one place where they are of use. The 52% of the population are about to put him in the only place he belongs - back in the has-been pile.

            • 16 votes
            #7.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:20 PM EST

            My Grandma and Mom thank you, may they rest in peace.

            • 6 votes
            #7.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:21 PM EST
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            Whoa. Had to clean my reading glasses. Thought it said up top that Romney asked Trump for HAIR cover, not air cover. Oops. My bad. :)

            • 19 votes
            Reply#8 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:02 PM EST

            Ha! Very rich, phinephancy! :~))

            • 3 votes
            #8.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:38 AM EST

            Wow more name calling and belittling comments from that understanding and enlightened left. Just keep insulting people typical liberals. They (you) think it is funny to urniate on the image of Jesus (HBO) they love to soliders and sailors cowards(again HBO) They (ACLU) just sent a top lawyer to defend that child molester in LA (the teacher). YEA you guys are awsome!!! The pillar of your Dems.; JFK was a rapist and near child molester. But hey just keep the name calling coming.

              #8.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:18 AM EST

              Hang on there, Mike! What name calling did I do? I simply made a comment that I misread something. Please, please chill out. You appear to have some anger management issues.

              • 3 votes
              #8.3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:10 AM EST

              Whoa Mike! Gentle spoofing allowed.

              As much as I deplore the level of some of the comments,if mild jesting about Donald Trump's hair has gotten you this upset,then this forum is not the place for you to be.

              Unless you are just doing a drive by, shooting off accusations and venting your spleen at the first posters you come across.

              Pick a more fitting target to rag on.

              • 1 vote
              #8.4 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:45 PM EST
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              The more they talk, the more I'm reminded of Will Rogers ... "Lettin' the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier 'n puttin' it back in."

              • 25 votes
              Reply#9 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:04 PM EST

              MEOW!!!!!

              • 12 votes
              #9.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:08 PM EST
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              In a perfect DNC world, now would be the time for Santorum to renew the call for Obama to release his BC.

              • 7 votes
              #10 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:24 PM EST

              Id settle for his university transcripts, I want to see just how smart Mr. Obama really is.

                #10.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:52 PM EST

                Obama got into Harvard Law; why don't YOU take the LSAT and apply and see if they take YOU?

                • 30 votes
                #10.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:55 PM EST

                Jolly, if you really want them you can get them but then again the right wing doesn't really WANT to get them because if they did it would prove everything the right has been saying is a flat out lie. :)

                • 24 votes
                #10.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:07 PM EST

                Money and influence can buy you a lot. I dont have to, I make a great living with a culinary arts degree! I dont have to post politician after politician that went to Ivy league universities with barely the needed GPA and accomplishments. The first sign to ignore a poster is immediate attack mode. Do you always take someone word for everything.

                • 1 vote
                #10.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:11 PM EST

                Sandy, You can not get them or Mrs Obama's either. They where made unavailable once Mrs. Obama's papers were released and showed to be controversial. I really dont care what the results are.....I just want to know about them. I voted for Mr. Carter and Mr. Clinton, however I did not vote for Mr. Obama. I do not have an issue with him being re-elected as long as Ms Pelosi and Mr. Reid are minority members of congress.

                  #10.5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:15 PM EST

                  Source? What papers of Mrs. Obama's were shown to be controversial?

                  If you want to know what it takes to get into Harvard Law, apply. You are implying that it is easy to do, that you don't need the requisite credentials, so put your belief where your mouth is jolly...or are you afraid to be proven wrong?

                  • 15 votes
                  #10.6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:22 PM EST

                  jollyoldsoul, why would you go to college transcripts to see how smart anybody is? If you want to know how smart Obama is, ask anyone who has ever talked to him about anything. Judge people by what they do, not by what you can dig up out of their past to try to smear them.

                  • 14 votes
                  #10.7 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:47 PM EST

                  Jollyold: we know how you love to deflect the latest idiocy from the Republican extremists back to the man you love to hate...but seriously....isn't it time for every an old guy to growing just a bit embarrassed in 2012 to constantly be questioning how smart the black guy is?? What would he have to do to convince you? Head the law review? (done). Teach Law ? Done. Go to culinary school??? Right. Can't you just pretend to have some level of decency remaining and just disagree with his policies?

                  • 15 votes
                  #10.8 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:04 PM EST

                  Well, Jolly, it's public knowledge that he graduated Magna Cum Laude from the toughest law school in the country. If you know anything about what goes in a transcript and what the above honor means, you have more than enough information. He averages more the 3.9 on a scale where 4 is perfect. Plus he was chosen Ediotr of the Harvard Law Review, which usually goes to the top student in the class. I'd say he's pretty darn smart. and I'm just smart enough to know that without seeing the transcripts.

                  Care to show us your transcripts, Jolly?

                  • 16 votes
                  #10.9 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:14 PM EST

                  Jolly ol' troll. I have noticed a lot of the same tired points over and over again Background noise. Off subject. Worn out points that are of no value. Closet Republican. Probably a paid distractor. Ho hum. You are now into that phase where you can't fool all of the people all of the time. All that is left is the some of the people all of the time. They are already santorum supporters anyway.

                  • 15 votes
                  #10.10 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:29 PM EST

                  jolly - Obama graduated from Harvard Law "magna cum laude".

                  I know that's Latin, so you might have to look it up.

                  Translation: It doesn't matter a hill of beans what his grades were going in. He came out at the top of his class. 'Nuf said.

                  • 12 votes
                  #10.11 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:51 PM EST

                  Obama was smart enough to be elected President. Thats good enough intelligence test for me.

                  • 6 votes
                  #10.12 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:20 PM EST

                  People focusing on the presidents transcripts rather than their own candidates, seriously Santorum is just scary. What are the republican base possibly thinking?

                  • 7 votes
                  #10.13 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:12 AM EST

                  Money and influence can buy you a lot.

                  Yeah, and who has more money influence than a single mother from Kansas? Ann Dunham did well diverting all that food stamp money to buy her son entry into the Ivy League.

                  I guess it's true...you can't cure stupid.

                  • 5 votes
                  #10.14 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:25 AM EST

                  I reckon when you're as SMART and INTELLIGENT like President Barack Obama ain't NO need what so ever to have to release any Ole' Silly School Records I reckon!!!! Too Funny!!!!

                  • 2 votes
                  #10.15 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:26 AM EST

                  With enough money and the right people, I can prove to you the moon is made of green cheese. Mine are a matter of public record. Didnt Mr Kerry get into an Ivy league school as well as Mr Bush, with less than stellar grades? And again...... I voted for Democratic presidents more than republican, and as I said earlier, I dont mind Mr. Obama being relected as long as Ms Pelosi and Mr Reid are minority leaders.

                    #10.16 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:25 AM EST

                    I don't have to post politician after politician that went to Ivy league universities with barely the needed GPA and accomplishments.

                    That's right jolly...we don't need to be reminded about your guy Dubbya.

                    With enough money and the right people, I can prove to you the moon is made of green cheese.

                    You mean you can prove it to conservatives. The rest of us aren't so gullible.

                    • 6 votes
                    #10.17 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:18 PM EST

                    Mr Obama attended college during the hayday of affirmative action, and in many ways, he did probably get a boost that others would not have. For example, coming from a single parent household, coming from a household on the borderline financially, and there were quotas for representing different ethnic groups within a given class year. In an attempt to achieve diversity, the common theory at the time was that they would just legislate how many students had to represent each category. Mr Obama would have been an ideal student choice, because his background would have allowed him to fulfill the criteria for more than one category. Graduating Magna Cum Laude is not the top of the class....I graduated Suma Cum Laude and if you choose to look it up, it means with highest honors-magna is one step down....so at least understand what you are creditting the president with before you offer the accolades.

                      #10.18 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:52 AM EST

                      Yes Sue, I'm crediting him with being in the top 25% of his class.

                      What's your point?

                      • 3 votes
                      #10.19 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:01 PM EST

                      Sue graduated Suma Cum Laude from beauty college. Fat lot of good it has done her, though.

                      • 2 votes
                      #10.20 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:09 AM EST
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                      "One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country.... Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that's okay, contraception is okay. It's not okay. It's a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be." —Rick Santorum, interview with CaffeinatedThoughts.com (October 2011)

                      • 20 votes
                      Reply#11 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:28 PM EST

                      If birth control is such an extreme measure that ensures things 'are counter to how they should be', then what the hell is viagra? You don't see any of these old guys saying THAT shouldn't be covered by insurance! I think viagra corrects how they think things should be... maybe??? And that's okay???

                      • 12 votes
                      #11.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:35 PM EST

                      You know, I never actually thought that Viagra should be covered by insurance, but maybe it is because it is primarily a men's issue and men make the policies....I always kind of thought of Viagra as a 'recreational expense" and as such something that you paid for out of pocket if you were so inclined.

                      • 1 vote
                      #11.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:55 AM EST

                      Think that we might need to separate terms here....the questions posed by Mr Santorum's statements are actually real concerns for parents rearing teens and adolescents in our society. Sexual behaviors are a matter of choice for legally consenting adults, but the prevasive nature of birth control and abortion has left open a huge gap where children, not mature enough to make choices or to deal with the consequences of their choices, are perhaps encouraged to participate in sexual activity at earlier ages. We are often told of children becoming parents too soon and the huge financial burdens placed upon their parents and society as a whole. But yet, we have created a situation where the message in society is that there are no consequences for sexual experimentation.

                        #11.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:02 AM EST
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                        Right you are Job1. Santorum takes the social positions of the most conservative bishops in the Catholic Church. He is of the Opus Dei slant. But Romney has become an unprincipled plastic shell of a candidate, so who knows how Michigan, Arizona, and Super Tuesday will go. I suspect that Santorum may take the lead after Super Tuesday - if Michigan and Arizona are really close. Money and organization may allow Romney to grind it out, but it looks like a long haul right now. Democrats need to use Santorum to expose the folks in the middle of the ideological spectrum to what the future looks like if the Republicans take control. Santorum represents at least half of the Republican Party in his extreme positions on banning all abortions and some forms of birth control. And his extreme prejudice against gays is perhaps a majority position in the Republican Party. Even a Romney presidency would mean that people like Santorum would have great influence.

                        • 12 votes
                        Reply#12 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:45 PM EST

                        The problem is republicans are voting and not conservatives. Republicans get into these social issues as if that is a winning hand. It is not for the general election. Any half wit could beat santorum.I wonder if the party is doing this intentionally as they have the power right now.....ALso, He looks like another young community organizer. The worst of all the candidates to come out of the party...... Obama must be loving this. Its a gift! All has to do is tell females this dufus is going to take your contraception and the old folks their social security. Put a fork in 2012 if that happens. Maybe, the republicans pick up a few seats in the senate, and thats about it. The only thing that is hopeful is the supreme court finds something unconstitutional with this forced health care camp going on.

                        • 4 votes
                        #12.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:10 PM EST
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                        February is almost over and Santorum has showed us nothing except he is strictly "Bush league" (no pun intended). Who will be the GOP's new 'flavor of the month' for March? Maybe its Palin's turn. I don't know, but it sure is fun watching the mayhem....

                        • 10 votes
                        Reply#13 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:51 PM EST

                        Given the current crop -- it no longer qualifies as a crowd -- of GOP/T contenders, the old Casey Stengel question comes to mind: "Can't anybody here play this game?"

                        Candidates for student government commit fewer unforced errors than those on the right trying to be our commander in chief. Three A.M. phone call, indeed!

                        • 7 votes
                        Reply#14 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:52 PM EST

                        Im ok with Mr. Obama being re-elected as long as Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Reid are minority leaders. I can see Detroit being the new American model

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#15 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:54 PM EST

                        Success? Now you've even got a problem with success?? Wow. Can imagine how happy it would have made you to see the auto industry go under, the US default, and the economy NOT recover. Gee can't IMAGINE whyyou call yourself "jolly"

                        • 6 votes
                        #15.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:12 PM EST
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                        Mr. Santorum just keep talkina and stammering and deflecting it's an even better show then when Mr. Romney was doing the same thing.

                        • 6 votes
                        Reply#16 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:01 PM EST

                        Like Newt and Pizza Man and Bachmann and Perry and who can count them all -- Rick is the teatard flavor of the month. Like the rest of this collection of clowns he will soon fade away. Is Ron Paul the next one in line or do the teatards cycle back to Palin??

                        • 7 votes
                        Reply#17 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:26 PM EST

                        The Tea-ReTards will cycle back to Palin because she is Nuts, what the teapugs are doing to Paul is beyond sad. I think his supporters will walk away from the GOP because of what the Tea-ReTards are doing to Ron.

                        • 2 votes
                        #17.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:11 AM EST
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                        It appears the cornservatudes are taking the repug party back to the smoked filled rooms of years gone bye to select their candudate. My only question is with lack of even one quality candidate from day one, the repugs didn't cancel their primaries and caucuses and just have a drawing for their sacrificial lamb cadudate at their convention. Could the result be any worse than this clown circus revue disguised as a primary campaign?

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#18 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:28 PM EST

                        If they come up to the convention with no plurality winner it will be decided in the back room over cigars and whiskey. Or Cognac and Coke. and the Oil Companies, Banks, Ind/Mil Complex, and Wall street will tell them who the candidate will be and it won't be any of the clowns that are being sacrificed as a distraction at the Big Show. They will bring out their Messiah and strut him in front of the convention.

                        • 7 votes
                        #18.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:47 PM EST
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                        Comment author avatarArizonatimeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                        Could 2012 be America's Last Presidential Election?


                        I've asked this question to a number of people and most them respond as if I were crazy for asking. They tell me that this is America, land of the free and that there will always be elections. I tell them that we are no longer the land of the free and that if Obama gets re-elected in 2012, that this just may be America's last election.
                        In the past three years, the Obama administration has been very carefully crafting the nation for a political take over by his Marxist regime and this isn't just my opinion.
                        Popular radio talk show host Michael Savage is the son of Russian immigrants and is very familiar with Soviet and European history. Savage warned his listeners this week saying,
                        "I have to tell you that if this man, God forbid, is the next president of the United States, we're going to be living in something along the lines of - people say Europe. I don't believe it's going to be like Europe - I think it will be closer to Chavez's South American dictatorship.
                        "This is the most corrupt, incompetent, dangerous tyrannical administration in American history. It's not politics as usual. It's not just Democrats versus Republicans. Obama has a long history of being at odds with American values and with America itself and the core principles of this country. They don't want government-sponsored opinions. They only want government-sponsored 'Pravda.' That's exactly what the government-media complex tells you on a daily basis - nothing but the government-media complex party line. Pay attention. Your freedom may be at stake."
                        Over the weekend, Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum told a small group of people in an Iowa coffee house that,
                        "Barack Obama is not incompetent, ladies and gentleman. He knows exactly what he's doing and why he's doing it. He sees America differently than you see America.
                        [Obama] has gone out of his way to divide this country in a way I haven't seen since the Great Depression when Franklin Roosevelt went around to divide his country. That's his hero. What makes America great [in Obama's mind is that] the government takes money from somebody and gives it to somebody else. No, that's what makes America, France."
                        With his control over the Executive and Judicial branches of the government, the stage is set for a complete takeover of the government. Think about it.
                        Since taking office, instead of helping the economy, Obama has purposely escalated the economic crisis by plunging the country into unprecedented debt. He has a number of programs that are designed to go into effect in January 2013, just in time for his second term of office. The economic burden and increased taxes on everyone will be enough to cause the final economic collapse of the country. As soon as that happens, Obama declares Martial Law and assumes dictatorial control of the nation.
                        The Department of Justice has already been subverting federal laws to strip us of a number of freedoms. The Supreme Court and many of the other federal courts have been seeded with socialistic liberal judges that will rule in Obama'sfavor on virtually anything, thus ending constitutional rule and law.
                        He's already changing the face of America's military. Allowing homosexuals to openly serve along with changing the retirement program is causing many conservative military leaders to resign commissions and leave the military. Some Pentagon officials are also noting that an increase in the enlistment of radical Muslims into the US military where they get all the training they need on weapons and defense systems. We have no idea how many of them there are in the armed forces or in what positions they may hold.
                        Obama has been wielding executive powers this past year as if he were already a dictator. When Congress is not doing his bidding, he simply bypasses them and used an executive order to accomplish it anyway. This has set the stage for his disbandment of Congress. He would not be the first world leader to take control of a nation and disband the legislative branch of government.
                        He has been effectively using the media to anesthetize the public to the dangers he poses. Like a patient being prepped for surgery, people are numb to the changes and won't have a clue what took place until they wake up in recovery and realize that free America has been removed and replaced with a regime that may parallel those of Stalin, Lenin, Mussolini, Hitler, Chavez and Castro.
                        For the sake of our children and grandchildren, I earnestly pray that we are spared from what seems a certain future and that Obama is overwhelmingly defeated in 2012. Otherwise, heaven help us.

                        • 1 vote
                        #19 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:45 PM EST

                        You are out of your f/king mind.

                        • 20 votes
                        #19.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:50 PM EST

                        Heaven can't help you...you need a shrink !!!

                        • 19 votes
                        #19.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:51 PM EST

                        Crazy radical right.

                        • 12 votes
                        #19.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:17 PM EST

                        AZ tiempo. and i bet you have conspiracy theories about punsxutawney phil and his shadow.

                        • 11 votes
                        #19.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:18 PM EST

                        Funny, that's what the left said about Bush, and they had a slightly better case, although it was still stupid. Trying to claim it for Obama is beyond stupid.

                        • 8 votes
                        #19.5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:41 PM EST

                        Um.... Wow.... You certainly put a lot of effort into your rant. I could argue point by point why your tirade is boarderline incoherent dribble, but that would be a huge waste of time, given your unstable condition. I would suggest that you turn off your radio for a few months (years?) and move out of the irrational space you live in.

                        So, I must ask this question (yes, this is a test. A test for you to determine if your are completely delusional or just catastrophically misguided). The question is - after this next election and Obama is reelected, and after the next election, when someone who is yet to be determined is elected president, and the next election and the next, etc. Will you be able to say "Gee, I got that wrong. Obama wasn't like Stalin, Lenin, Mussolini, Hitler, Chavez, or Castro? Will you admit that you were wrong? Or will you go to some Herculean effort to twist and distort and re-write history to rationalize the pathetic, fear-filled, hate-filled world inside your head. If you choose that latter, you are completely delusional. Either way, seek help.

                        • 12 votes
                        #19.6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:45 PM EST

                        Arizona could have save himself the time of cutting and pasting some hateful fiction he picked up on a right wing zombie site that no one in his right mind would ever read and simply posted "I'm a blithering idiot" instead. It is accurate, concise, and it doesn't waste as much bandwidth.

                        • 16 votes
                        #19.7 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:03 PM EST

                        Arizona, If you bring that stuff to class you have to have enough for everybody....BTW What is that you are smoking?

                        • 8 votes
                        #19.8 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:49 PM EST

                        With his control over the Executive and Judicial branches of the government, the stage is set for a complete takeover of the government. Think about it.

                        All you need to know about the completely stupidity of that rant is embodied in that line. The Democrats, let alone Obama don't control anything but the executive branch, and even that is questionable. If the Democrats controlled Congress in deed, let alone word, like they did in 2008, do you think we would have actually gotten the joke that was the health care reform bill? No. We would have gotten a health care policy that made sense, instead of a relatively weak compromise.

                        Let's also not forget that five of the nine Supreme Court justices are Republican appointees, with four of them being pretty conservative. How else would we get a decision such as Citizens United, which opens the floodgates for business spending on campaigns in the name of free speech?

                        Why don't you drop the pretense and tell the outright truth. Just say: "I can't stand having a black for a president." I'd almost respect someone for being so openly racist, rather than using code language such as "muslim." You'd be just as wrong, but at least you'd be honest with the world at large, as well as with yourself.

                        • 13 votes
                        #19.9 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:00 PM EST

                        DUDE! Please get a lobotomy so you can spare yourself any more pain nor inflict it on others!!!

                        • 10 votes
                        #19.10 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:26 PM EST

                        Arizonatime - You probably can't help yourself but being scared and frightened of the boogie man can be lessened but not cured with a night light, a warm glass of milk and a large dosage of antipsychotic drugs.

                        • 7 votes
                        #19.11 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:52 PM EST

                        you're one of those guys who writes their own "manifesto" huh? do you have a room in your house with newspaper colums pinned all over the walls? I think homeland security wants to talk to you...

                        • 9 votes
                        #19.12 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:25 PM EST

                        Arizona,

                        HEAVEN HELP US FROM LUNATICS of the RIGHT!!!

                        • 6 votes
                        #19.13 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:10 AM EST

                        Wow more name calling and belittling comments from that understanding and enlightened left. Just keep insulting people typical liberals. They (you) think it is funny to urniate on the image of Jesus (HBO) they love to soliders and sailors cowards(again HBO) They (ACLU) just sent a top lawyer to defend that child molester in LA (the teacher). YEA you guys are awsome!!! The pillar of your Dems.; JFK was a rapist and near child molester. But hey just keep the name calling coming. Truth hurts!!!!!!

                          #19.14 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:28 AM EST

                          Stereotype much, Mike?

                          • 3 votes
                          #19.15 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:42 AM EST

                          New low from the GOP supporters, its sad we have uneducated lowlife trailer park trash like this in our Country. Bet you $10,000.00 dollars your walls are cover in hate clips.

                          • 2 votes
                          #19.16 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:39 AM EST

                          MikefrmVa - Try not to have discussions with the voices in your head. Its best to just ignore or surely your depressed state will only assure a total mental breakdown. From your post it appears your very close to the edge.

                            #19.17 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:13 PM EST
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                            This gop just CANTOR seem to get their stuff together. Its like they have a broken Boehner or something ! But that PALIN'S in comparison to the TRUMP card they may play later,it will take several breath DEMINTS to get that taste out of your mouth !! I vote we NEWTER them all and put them in a SANTORIUM..That should get them off of our BACKMAN... or we could call in the Dick ARMY.....

                            • 17 votes
                            Reply#20 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:49 PM EST

                            Are you a brokeback cowboy?

                            • 1 vote
                            #20.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:08 PM EST

                            You likee cowboy zona ??...me love you loooong time....

                            • 10 votes
                            #20.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:28 PM EST

                            Go cowboy! You got AZ all excited....

                            • 8 votes
                            #20.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:32 PM EST
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                            I liked newt and romney. This santorum yutz --- wow. I may have to vote for divided government. If he is going to run on contraception, he can forget about the woman vote. This guy won't last very long against obama. I can't believe republicans like this goof ball lobbyist.

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#21 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:05 PM EST

                            Interesting how Grand Inqisitor Sanctimonius's A-number one, highly-trained and well paid mouthpiece let the Freudian "Islamic Agenda" slip out of the bag... or should we say; "out of the mouths of babes..."?

                            • 9 votes
                            Reply#22 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:22 PM EST

                            I'mglad Rick Santorum ha s so much time to discuss theology.Tha tmust be because he dosen't have a clue to provindingj obs for this country.

                            He criticized Obama on the economy-forgettig that Obama adopted republican advice to extend the Bush tax cuts. And the Repblican call for payroll tax cuts had bipartisn support too. Well-if youadopt Republicanadvice and it doesn't work what can one say?

                            After all they tried it the republican way,

                            The real thing it shows is- Republicans are out of ideas-unles sthey have a silver bullet no one has heard of yet.

                            That's unlikely.

                            • 8 votes
                            Reply#23 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:37 PM EST

                            "Secularist Theology/Theological Secularism"= REALITY

                              Reply#24 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:00 PM EST

                              Nutjobs Theology/Taliban Republicanism=Losing elections.

                              • 9 votes
                              #24.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:14 PM EST
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                              The Arizona Pinal County sheriff situation is so sad. It shows what happens when someone chooses the wrong path in life. Do the residents of Pinal County really want "Studboi1" to continue as their sheriff? How can anyone look at him as a respectable member of society considering what he does in his private life? Hopefully he will do the right thing and resign. This whole episode shows what happens when society tolerates lowered standards of conduct by its civil leaders, and citizens in general.

                              • 1 vote
                              Reply#25 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:00 PM EST

                              I don't know I done seen that Sheriff Pauly Badboo on TV and to me he didn't look SAD matter of fact he looked quite "GAY" Too FUNNY!!!!

                                #25.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:36 AM EST

                                Now that Sheriff Babeu has been exposed by an illegal immigrant and forced out of the closet ....does he still feel the same way about illegals?

                                He doesn't want illegal immigrants seen or heard

                                Babue just wants them in his bedroom?

                                  #25.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:59 AM EST
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